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Goblin caves is fucking unbearable right now the hr modules themselves aren’t bad but just changing the enemy difficulty doesn’t fix the fact the in the hr modules there are 2-3 times the amount of enemies please either revert the change or lower mob density
HEY MAN CAN I STOP LOSING ALL OF MY GEAR WHEN I GO TO HELL PLEASE? IF WE COULD MAKE THAT NOT HAPPEN IT WOULD BE GREAT THANK YOU THANK YOU
there still enough teams and all, no need to go that far. just dont have ores or special crafting items just belong to 1 map.
is warlock crazy strong now??
I was crouch walking
BRO WHY THE FUCK AM I LOSING GEAR WHEN I GO IN, WHY AM I DYING AND GETTING THE SAME KIT BACK I STARTED WITH
Is this game good? It looks a lot like GiG I’ve been playing that but might try this game out.
buff rogue
what skills are people running on barb? 🙂
dude if half of the community had the braincells to read
omg
does anyone know if we will ever see this game on steam? blacksmith just aint it
Yo,me and duo just lost our stuff although we made it out????
Ironmace , why do you hate rogue?
nothing they are dog shit
Yoo..it happens. just roll it up again
:yep:
Does soul collector work now??? 😦
Is it me or loot is way too common now? checked merchants could build a full purple barb set for like 500G
its supposed to give everyone the opp to gear up i think
dogo devs xDD!
Ironmace , why do you hate rogue?
@weary seal yeah its stupid. they said they wanted to slow down the game and then do that shit
The speed boost and Achilles strike. Anything to do with axe damage. No armor, double, headshot, axe mastery.
@glossy sierra @subtle summit @pseudo haven @mystic sandal this man needs to be in the develepment team
Thats an outright over exaggeration. MOST Of the purple gear is 150g+.
Haven't been able to play the new update, how broken is the new warlock stuff?
@copper star thanks!
anyone know where to get gold ore? im assuming hell runs
is soul collector fixed?
does alchemist still sell protection potions?
The year is 2075. Mechatrump is the leader of the Texan Federation and Gatorrade is the biggest agricultural export of North America. Dark and darker releases its 37th hero, the accountant, and rangers in whites still two tap all other classes.
buff rogue
its mid
Yeah I know, but I hate it haha. Instead of balancing the game because people complained about geared people, they gave everybody good gear now for cheap at the merchant and the problem will only be worse once the sweats have grinded for a week and they will constantly run full purple
ANY TIME YOU GO HELL YOU GET ROLLED BACK
First Time? from a rogue main
please bring bard back please idk if i have to get on my knees and pray but please they do nothing to ranger this game is all bout rock paper scissors and u just comple remove paper and buff scissor
Hey does anyone know why my tranquility on bard doesent heal and temp dmg at all? Song just straight up isnt doing anything\
Now we have options instead of being eaten alive by stacked squads repeatedly. A few hundred gold in stash is enough to get a decent kit.
I've seen a bit of gameplay and it looked strong, I'm actually glad to hear that its not as powerful as it looks
welcome to rogue LULW
You have to be sitting down for it to activate
Give it a week and the great players will always be running that and wiping dungeons and you will be back to complaining on reddit
How often do the NPC merchants reset their offering? What is the interval timing?
laughs in rogue
where golem is located?
They gap between basic stats on whites v purps has shrunk dramatically. Look at armor values on plate. Green/blue pieces really need a good roll to be more worthwhile than just white gear. I want ppl to be OP. I just want chances to get OP for myself, too. That’s core to loot based games.
Why does a warlock with magic staff 2 shot full magic resist fighter ?
Revert the patch, this update was a mistake and the game will suffer because of it
wahwah no one cares that you lost your stuff. you should EXPECT AN EARLY ACCESS game to be BUGGY
THATS WHY ITS EARLY ACCESS!!!!
okay well my bow is gone, what was that?
Ironmace , why do you hate rogue?
How often do the NPC merchants reset their offering? What is the interval timing (my understanding is that the timer on their picture isn't accurate)?
is discord fucked for anyone else
idk i like it means everyone can fight equally no fear of losing gear
Meh you’re toxic, i bet your complaints are way more myopic and asinine than mine. @sullen kayak XX:00 and XX:30 every hour.
yo has anyone had a bug where they have lost everything even tho they got out?
wahwah no one cares that you lost your stuff. you should EXPECT AN EARLY ACCESS game to be BUGGY
THATS WHY ITS EARLY ACCESS!!!!
I just can’t believe how much the nerfed all melee dmg makes no fucking sense my 12 pound longsword that is super fucking sharp is only doing 10 more damage the a misshapen piece of driftwood really is a goddamn shame where the game is headed with this patch
Awesome thank you! Just making sure I understand correctly, you mean every 30 minutes, at :00 and :30? Twice per hour?
Ironmace , why do you hate rogue?
Ironmace should make some polls in discord to see the communities honest reaction to their updates
Hardcore mode 1-20 no trade section. Only get gear when you take it out from dungeons. No grouping with people that are not hardcore. Cancel the trade section it’s lame and I hate selling/buying items and sitting on a trade screen for an hour when we can be dark and Darkering it up
Yessir! That’s how it has always been anyway. I don’t think it changed. Let me know if I’m wrong.
I guess, but then you'll also hear the loudest voices without hearing the moderates so it's kinda moot
Forgot where to go to view class discussions. Can someone tell me what channel?
Ironmace , why do you hate rogue?
Anyone here having issue retaining the gear they extract with? every time I take portal, my gear goes back to what I went in with
read
We the people hate rogue
erm why did i load in without my team
i just had that happen to me and someone said expect it cus its a EARLY ACCESS game even tho its never happed before
rogues fine, just not OP as hell and free af
What part of the map is the ruins golem at
@karmic loom Not a questionare, a poll. Where they'll just see the amount of people voting for certain things. If the masses don't like something, that may be call for a change. Not that they have to listen to the feedback though
bridge near tower
Ironmace , why do you hate rogue?
ranger a bit spicy huh
Theres rollbacks at the moment its a bug i died and was back in the lovbby with my gear dont try play geared rn tbh
Yes, I understood. My sentiments are unchanged
Do anyone else get kicked when going into a red portal and spawn into there?
wtf my three man just loaded in separately
the new spider room is wild
Ironmace why do you hate rogue?
Just found some portals don't work. Its there. Can't interact with it. Nice. Added more with no thought of balance and managed to break more things. Starting to wish these devs just stayed at nexon making crap.
Anyone know why download is taking ages?
Ironmace , why do you hate rogue?
bro wtf, thought someone was trolling when they said they extracted and all their loot was gone but it just happened to me, great game btw, also have an invisible item in my stash that wont go away/cant be moved
Told y’all they stole this shit lol they clueless
can you go hell?
game bugged wtf went to hell and disconnect lost gear and loot
damn, I bet you wish you could read.
dont play the game when they havent released the hotfix
do bards songs cost "spell memory" now? they didn't before right?
that's correct, fat ho
Ironmace , why do you hate rogue?
very useful spam. they will definitely read that and fix what you think is wrong with rogues immediately
Better not get good and start having fun. That is when they will delete what you enjoy from existence.
I can't go to hell or extract with loot in my inventory fromk the game, but stuff is still equipped
about as useful as your reply i suppose
I had just finally found one piece of the game. I really loved. The same week they delete it
I legit found a dragon egg and u dont see me complaining
first time?
Finally. The pets update
Why zone goes so fast?
Rogue main?
how do you deal with people camping the troll stairs? Or people rushing you after you kill the troll? As a rogue
No Will Ferrell it was buying gray weapons and PVP in goblin caves.
kill them
you kill them
funny how everyone says this when someone makes a remark like this., kinda like EVERYONE knows rogue was gutted without reason. earthspawn is likely talking about bard tho
why does ranger have a better self heal than fighter
Lmao rogue
did they change the wraith + sit down cheese?
I got a bug where Icant equip fighter items on my fighter
you dont really, ya just gotta win
Can't jump on top of most health statues anymore. Absolute worst part of this patch
Yeah rogue is reduced to being rupture spamming hand crossy bows and it’s not great looking. Ambush was OP but they nerfed em to death. @foggy meteor I am also a little disappointed I can’t spawn box rush anymore. By the time i learn the new maps, hopefully i’llhave a stash of gear. So far the drops have come easy and the extractions even easier.
Turn off Slayer
i got a bug where rogue is useless.... oh wait
anyone else feel like as a fighter you've got no chance against anyone but other fighters/barbs unless you get a jump on a ranged class
no
There is an extra circle, It's supposed to make it so you don't have to move as far each one, it's the same time limit overall though so you get less time if your near the edge, not sure I like it yet.
anyone else feel like this patch fucked them in the ass?
The problem though is even learning the maps the same weapon costs more than three times as much and so i can’t just buy fifteen of them and it be profitable
When I portal back and see my inventory emptied of all it's contents, reset to noob status, I think; "It's not about the destination it's about the journey. And it's not loser's weepers it's loser's keepers, keepers of the fun we had along the way". And then I go to the garage and get chiefed.
how do you deal with people camping the troll stairs? Or people rushing you after you kill the troll? As a rogue
Revert the update
Revert the update
Revert the update

Ah true, that will hurt my ranger where i like to always have a spear and would buy 150g worth at first chance
Accept your fate
How is occult boots faster than lightfoot? Like what even
Ranger still is easily the best class and the PVE is still awful to deal with, i dont want to lose half my HP because i dont have the right weapon for a specific monster
they fucked themselves in the ass with terrible balance decisions
what a point to play Dark and Darker if each game guy in top gear will kill you?
new patch sucks
is anyone else not getting loot after takign a blue portal ? its happend twice
yeah new bug
the warlock is to op right now its only warlock that i have been fighting makes no fucking sense they need to nerf the warlock alread
how do you fight spellcasters/rangers?
Does hell work???
Just went in a blue portal and game froze then my windows process froze?
Not just weak, it is weak, ut also pretty effectively pigeonholed to 1 viable build. I don’t know what to suggest with him though. Maybe if tumble actually had some purpose. Rogue is a mess with bad perks and abilities.
nothing like being kited endless by a naked warlock with 14ms boots on
last 3 patches have sucked
Wtf we were told the merchants would have better stock but the surgeon only has 2 bandaids still
He needs at least 50 bandaids
Yeah it's absolutely wild they made warlock boots have such high movement speed lol
Also less people in a map
make em miss then sprint 
we just went in and got out and we lost all of our loot because of it the "roll back bug" they are talking about I believe
we were told there was two diff rogue reworks and we got two dumpsters
Yeah same, just lost a ton of shit to rollback
whats the general consensus on this update
ass
just lost a ton to a rollback, im sure these devs are sleeping comfortably knowing they commiteed a bigger heist than bernie madoff
Ironmace , why do you hate rogue?
cus cringe
Dumbest shit I’ve read in chat so far
Warlock is so op that he could collect 3 rogue's souls and craft them into hydra
Rogue mains 😵
dude, my friend made it out but the gear and items didnt transfer
oh are you a dev xDD?
New goblin caves fucking sucks
Yeah new GC is trash
They said that some new stuff will be added to stores. I guess that surgeon had to have a needle to fix gamer's a@sholes for 300 gold. And not forget to give a vaseline for alch
is it even worth taking gear out if the bug resets you?
this is a great patch having a lot of fun in my home the goblin caves with random maps and balance changes 🙂 ❤️
come on bro what are u scared of
Korea devs don't care that I lost my 200g kit to that
ho do i create a temp channel
He escaped from the map though a portal. All the items and gear he found using didn't transfer through portal escape
Known issue, hotfix is in the works
I say just keep playing as normal. It is in Early Access and after a major patch. Some weirdness is bound to happen. Just have fun and don't worry about the gear.
it used to be easier with shift
my weapon alone is 200g mate. =/ a kit thats 200g is nada
This has happened before and they fixed it. They'll fix it again. Chill my boys.
what class are you playing
Where does one acquire wolf pelts?
They literally alrdy posted about it. And 200g is one goblin caves
Did they nerf the solo drum MS song for bard?
bards are shat now
From wolves
Making champion and wraith harder was unnecessary as fuck bro what the hell
two patches ago, to -30ms. now higher rarity has lesser ms penalty
hahahhahahahaha its so fun when rangers automatically kill you from 47M away :DDDDDD im so glad that i cannot play any of the classes that are acutally fun and i have to play the easy class that clicks people and wins 10/10 game
Anyone have a fix for Servor Error please try again (2) i have not been able to play for literally a fucking month and devs arent communicating back to me
Shocking revelation
did they fuck up sound this wipe? why does everything sound like shit
because they added doghsit annoying sound to everything. rapier sounds are the worst, bard was dead without my head hurting af after 2 minutes of swinging it
lol 90% of the last final circle in hell was inside a wall. amazing 1 portal for a map we completely controlled
do we think these devs are good at their job?
They aren’t that bad
combat feels good, unlike greedisgood
Hard to find a community that likes the game/devs nowadays 
yeah chasing a naked warlock forever is so good
no
Bandages need to be way cheaper than health potions, them being the same price is gross, or at least make them stack??
If devs wanna make rogue balanced, they just need to rework invis to be a combat spell. Close to wizard, shorter cd, but like 4 sec max, if that.
Even Valve breaks Dota 2 with some patches. It happens, just takes time and patience
That’s a no from me dog
Bro the game is unplayable I just got teleported into floor spikes 💀
well apart from cheese and runners game is fun. Hard to balance things like MS though..
pretty easy to not give a dot class with self heals 14 move speed boots when every other boot is half that or less
thoughts on new warlock?
The weaponry of cleric could be expanded a tad bit, feels quite limited
Locks are overtuned but theyll get roped in like bards did. Give em a few days. @maiden surge they hinted at a warhammer a while back. Id also like cleric to get a lighter xbow option
whatre good spells for default warlock
and what's the difference between 2 cleric weapons and 15 weapons for other class if you only use 1 that isn't dogshit anyway
Curse of pain, power of sacrifice, and hellfire
Maybe they’ll add a flail. Never seen a cleric with a sword though 
Cleric is not a damage class. Plain and simple.
What's the point of putting the cave troll in the corner of the map? zone closes as you kill him and there's no time to loot the room at all...
running around naked has been optimal strat at multiple times in this game, them doing it again is sheer incompetence
Devs are running this game like who’s line. Points don’t matter
where is gold ore at? T_T
Lol. Well what is it. Geared chads with cloaks, or nakeds with boots? According to this discord everything is broken
guys cant even keep it straight amongst yourselves
starter gear should be glued to you at all times, you can rip it off, but every time you do it you lose 20% HP. fuck this naked meta
You act like this discord is a collective, lol. Naked warlocks with 14ms boots are dumb.
can't even exit lobby KEKW
so merchant sells over priced useless purple items but not the grey item you want lol
It isnt a collective? All i see is an ocean of complainers. You all look the same to me.
I havent died to a naked player in like 2 months, its annoying at worst.
This discord is just a tad bit worse than aids. Actually mindblowing 
nah. @visual glade yeah this discord is seriously awful, so many whiny stupid stinky cry babies.
yes!!! hold the line!!!!! let the devs cook!!
1 more hour ! kappa
The devs should put kleenex boxes in the next round of coffee orders. Theyll get more use then the emotes 
Loving so many of these changes. I do wish the NPC shops were a little more organized though, lol.
Let's snipe a goblin queue together. I bet I can kite you in circles forever. We'll get you that death to a naked.
what are they hotfixing exactly?. what is rollback issue
Triple shot should only give as many shots as you have ammo for and should go on cd if none are available
redic that it just reloads for you

I dont think thatll work because you strike me as someone who rerolls at lvl 15 to have an easier time. And i play 20s. We are not the same. 
Thoughts on new goblin caves cause i think its ass
no starter money like tarkov wipe? nothing to get your feet planted and enjoy.
Randomly, some matches will roll back your loot/character. So, if you die, the game treats it like you never died. Cool.. But on the flip side, if you get out with epic loots, and the game rolls you back?.. You get nothing. It's like that match never began, for better or worse.
@pulsar pebble lol scared
I think they should upgrade the loot pool.
I'm honestly surprised that the level 15 lobbies even still exist
Did they deploy the hotfix patch? Or like are the servers down atm?
no and no
im playing now

my stashes are gone, but not my levels... is this intentional with the update?
Cant help but notice you didnt deny it though 
But i can promise if i end up in your lobby and your naked im just going to close a door on you and carry on farming gear and loot. Why would i chase down someone with nothing? 
I dont have time to play the new patch, how many arrows does quickshot longbow shoot
One..
i just picked up a golden key off a champ skull how much are they worth
Like 1.5-2k

are the new warlock abilities good?
Yes. Check out the announcement's channel specifically the patch notes. They wiped stashes, but not progress or characters this time.
From the point of view of a barb whos been running locks down for the past day, not really. Might just be a matter of players learning how to use them properly though

Hydra is good
hydra pretty easy to just walk away from @pulsar pebble fight me, coward
where are the new attributes?
i read them earlier, but didnt see that bit. thanks tho
Barb is the most op this run
Lock is a pretty disgusting area denier now. Be interesting to see how its used in 3s
Hail Hydra 🙌
create a vc in temp vc isnt working
Yo i feel like Riot Games is balancing this game smh
Goblin caves? more like warlock caves
high roller golden chest loot
Lmao no way. Riot games at least understand slowly nerfing things. Ironmace cranks it to -10 on sight.
for the love of god can you please fix the f ing quick loot, it use to be shift left click and now its double tap, why cant i choose a keybind for how i want to loot
bard unplayable
where do you find gold ore?
true
do the stats of the armor offered in the service tab of the armorer rotate or are the stats listed on these items static?
warlock
Anyone else running into full blue teams already? :)
its not hard to be in full blues already
^
anyone know? since you know about blues? @forest turtle not sure if its regional but no issues here in us east
anyone know if they fixed the rollback?
it‘s like 3 extracts in crypts
lmao who thought it was a good idea to give warlocks so much movespeed, I can't believe how fast they are
playing barbarian feels so bad, you get kited by every class
This patch is shit
wait is it actually common to find people smuggling gear into pre 15 lobbies? played 2 games and someone was running toward me almost double my speed and they almost killed me in one falchion swing
fix this bug please https://clips.twitch.tv/CleverNeighborlyKathyDeIlluminati-Z--Kr_cN04yyUt_G
why is high roller goblin cave loot 10x worse then normal gob caves
anyone know how to get dark matter or gold(ore)?
so what class to main now that rogue is worthless?
@inner elbow lucky i had it big time us west this morning
Does anyone know how to use the life drain spell on warlock? I think I’m doing it wrong when I cast it it just hurts for the cost of the spell without healing.
cannot move
does power of sacrifice still trigger torture mastery after the patch?
Don’t move melle range it’s kinda bad tho
from what ive seen no but people say it does if you have curse of pain up
your delusional class is still good
Thank you both for clarifying, I thought that’s what it meant by concentrate but it didn’t have a duration bar displayed for it like sanctuary which confused me
Ifs garbage. Takes alot of Hits to kill fighter or barbs or clerics and they kill you in 2-3 hits
120s bard's buff lasting for 30 ?
why cant i buy castillions why do these devs have no moms
tell that to repoze. the best rogue in the game, even knows the class is trash now.
I watched repoze in green and blue gear lose to a gray geared barb with a zweihander. Poor guy hit the barb like 6 times and barb 2 tapped him lol
FIX THE FPS LAG WHEN OPENING THE UI
is goblin hr worth playing
was double wield that much more broken than one hitting with blow of corruption? let me buy my castillions
Warlock ranger lf1m anything goes.
the wipe did not delete levels but it DID remove all perks and skills, which I found out after joining a game 
only class thats good after patch is warlock tbh
I made a new survey poll regarding the current state of rogue, on a different website this time that allows for unlimited responses.
Please give it a look over and share it please, i want to collect data on the community's combined opinions regardless of if you play rogue or not
https://s.surveyplanet.com/lglooe93
i really wish they would give us some better starter gear considering how unfair it is to fight anyone with anything if youre in starter gear, like can i have the option to use the worst version of every weapon available to my class please
they should have nerfed gear i was expecting it but not really the gap between gear and not gear is stil massive
It took me like 3 games to rat out a set of greens and enough gold to get a crossbow and bolts... Now I have some a blue war maul and lightfoot boots and 2 green fine curiasses ....
SO MUCH DEVELOPMENT SO MANY PATCHES SO MANY LEGAL PROCEDURES, SO THAT THE GOAL IS TO PLAY ARROWS, MY GOD HOW THIS GAME IS DECLINED, HAVING SO MUCH POTENTIAL,
feels like i dont bump into anyone anymore in caves
yeah its unreal how quickly you lose when you have no gear, like i avoid any type of pvp i possibly can if i dont have any gear, which is nearly impossible in goblin caves (im a solo player). im not good at the game and its impossible to get better when i die the second someone sees me since they run 40% faster than i do
Seriously, i start having so much fun blocking and trying to mindfuk my enemies just for ranger to two tap me because i didnt throw my mouse at mach 27 103 times across my desk while also blocking and keepíng track of the ranger and also making sure to keep track of his bow draw and wether he has 1 arrow or 3 and his traps and how many heals he has left all while he kites you and pops youre legs to be faster than you
i think they reduced player pool
It just takes a little patience I've duck spammed people in Grey's and they still just regard run straight at me instead or rattin out and getting some gold and loot... it's like turn off your lizard brain and maybe hide when you hear pate boots?
Problem is here. " im not good at the game"
you really need to rat with a invisible potion and whack them in the head
highroller gc maps on regular dungeons sucks so much, too many mobs to fight as a grey
delusional take
why
did 3 runs GC HR and never found anything over a green full inventory
so if youre not good at the game, you shouldnt play it? tf is that? how would this game ever attract new players if youre not gonna have a good time at any point unless youre a top 1% player?
why the fuck do i even bother playing this game when ranger exists, i can't fucking breathe without some nerd shooting me from a mile away
Does anybody know why they didn’t reduce the levels to one
they patted them on the bank they should nhave deleted grey and green lomngbow and only allow it as a blue does way to much dammage to be a grey
because the wipe was more about getting rid of the gold that was duped by hackers
ok well this community is a joke if they think everything is just easy to do. somehow the tarkov community is better than this one even though this games existed for like less than a year. weird
Just made a feature request to remove new hybrid GC maps that are part HR and part normal (or at least to make them have proper transitions and no dead ends) https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/496588/remove-the-combined-high-roller-normal-goblin-caves-maps
they just nerfed rogues weapon and nerfed it again in the patch nice total trash role now
it ended abnormaly please restart lol what did ironmace do
agreed, too many shills.
I have not seen one grey longsword at the damn weapon merchant, most of the shop update is good but keep more greys in the shop, FFS
Also white gear = worst value
Its just the vocal majority, most people who play this game dont talk in a lot of the chats,
I' m not playing this game again until they nerf rangers man, fucking 10 rangers in every lobby and still dominating
dont worry rangers get acess to grey longbows every shop that do nuclear war head amounts of damage
Ive been ended abnormally 
Grey occultist boots with 14 movespeed, who greenlit this
at 1st i thought the patch was good but the number of bugs .... now idk if i like the game at all
what r the green goblins with special abilities called in HR?
can you stack both of the luck potions on top of eachother?
Wow, bugs in an early access game? I can't believe it.
“Green goblin”
The biggest bug from this patch is rangers still not being nerfed
Triple A games never have bugs!
Rangers got a little nerf their spells all have longer cooldowns now.... But honestly I've been rolling over them with the new speed changes I've chopped up at least 3 rangers with barb and fighter and haven't died to one yet
to be fair i played my first match got disconected twice then couldnt open doors for over a minute and couldnt do anything and then got killed by a player but i was frozen so i didnt even know i was dead lol
is going to the red portal still bugged cause i had to jump in one
Wait until you come across a team with a 2 rangers and a cleric. All you can do is run unless you have rangers yourself
whats your point? im not allowed an opinion on a game riddled with bugs ? early access or not?
does hellfire take more health now?
his point is that complaining about bugs in an early access game is fucking stupid
I don't know guys, I think people will only be able to play the game 50 hours this week instead of their intended 70. This is unbelievable 😠😠
is hellfire ever going to heal again?
that never happened before they need to roll out the test servers for the founders edition people
Yeah do you think they're just gonna not fix them? I've found a ton of bugs in each play test and they've all been fixed. Make sure you do a bug report in the channel !
abnormally ended 
sure balanced sword go ahead and please do 75% of my hp when youre a mage
This update is def awesome btw, awesome job by the devs
anyone know how to get the gold chest
does flame walker warlock spell proc magical healing on cursed targets?
Currently, the game needs more pvp. More players per a dungeon. Also, the game needs a lot less blue portals, and more reds.
The most fun pvp encounters are in inferno, when you fight over only 5 red portals.
The amount of players allowed in a match right now, especially in the Goblin Caves, is not enough, and the matches feel empty, and less threatening.
There is too much magic resist on normal gear at the moment.
Armor damage reduction is too high, on the higher end of the game (full Ruby Silver for example).
The reason "+3 All Stat" gear was taken out of the game originally is because stat bonus capability was far too high, and now gear is at a point where the bonus stats are too good, again.
Please fix this.
Thank you.
Oh true, I'm very happy for them, lmao
i will get john ironmace on the line to address these problems
He retired last week. Seamus McIronmace is the new ceo let me message him on X
how do u get the gold ore
Lets just turn to the game into a BR and remove all loot, trading, bosses.
hard to call a game early access for how much they charged for it...
seamus has no relation to john, think you are mistaken
anyone know how much luck the luck potions give?
Should Warlocks be able to use rapiers? What are some reasons they dont?
where do u mine gold?
yea, I wouldnt complain one bit, the pvp is the fun part of this game, trying to memorize 40 enemies attack paterns and cheese the game so that you have better loot to auto-win pvp is not enjoyable for some people
Ironmace , you guys are seriously fucking this game up
First you need to get a flannel shirt and overalls and get an old man beard. Then you get some pans and strainers and go to the pacific NW USA find a river and start sifting the water
hey im just curious as im extremely new but like after this last patch is there any new SUPER op characters i need to stay clear of 🥹
spell memory for bards and i think warlock is bugged. we can still use songs and spells over the limit
with all these blues and purples, goblin merchant is completely useless now. you get blues at merchants for the same price as the goblin merchant...
The circle needs to take longer to fall in if you're gonna add 5x as many enemies, can't even loot/heal/attack
Goblin merchant was always useless.
can anyone confirm if ray of darkness actually does anything??
goblin merchant sells rings. buy goblin rings ez clap
am I the only one that rubber bands ridiculously bad on every server/even on VPN? Game's literally unplayable but my friends are fine. My internet's very fast, i don't get it
what does rusty key open now?
where can i find a list of all the crafting materials? the wiki doesnt have them.
The rusty gate
i really dont like the goblin cave changes. there is no pvp to be found. only saw a ranger the entire time who was a noob and running from 5 goblins. easy kill and easy loot. that was one of three total deaths that run
do the devs just want goblin caves to be a timmy lobby experience? at this point it's just free money. bad players with lots of time can just farm goblin caves and buy nice items from the merchants. i dont think the goblin caves have ever been so easy.
@rose prawn turn off the vpn you used to download the update :kekw:
end portals for goblin cave sux
fix this shit ass lag already
so guys, why can rangers and fighter onehsot classes with crossbow and longbow, seems a bit busted that their ranged weapons do as much dmg as a barbs slowed weapon
hey im just curious as im extremely new but like after this last patch is there any new SUPER op characters i need to stay clear of 🥹
servers are messed up in general theres all kinds of issues rn. we are waiting for a hotfix.
anyone having issue getting stuck in meditation?
just extracted with a full inven of HR treasure and my loot poofed from existence after i went back into lobby. dont keep spectating before you exit to lobby unless you want your items to disappear
That’s brutal
yeah me. steer clear of me if you see me
You are achieving nirvana, embrace it.
I feel like hr goblin cave is garbage design ....
game feels horrendous
I don't like the new goblin cave, feels way too brutal compared to the other maps
I never used a vpn
so warlock's ray of darkness does 0 damage lmao
goblin caves has never been easier you gotta learn how to not die to pve lol. there are always enough escape portals so there's almost 0 pvp going on
, true
It does???
yeah its really ass ngl
I played 2 goblin caves before work today and encountered players in both matches.
Rogue confirmed still strong if you know how to play. It just isnt dead fucking imba now.
Ive never been in a norm GC were pvp wasnt immediate or overwhelming at the end. HR is usually pretty tame
i say we take the shitty highroller map off of the normal map roll for crypts
it's nothing like it was before the patch. i encounter players too but normally i encounter half the lobby if i dont die. at most im encountering 2 people now. there's fewer players per match and more portals.
HR was either tame or one player would just kill everything lol
@jolly path i'm not making shit up at all. there's 7 players per goblin caves match, compared to the previous 9. there are 6 portals, and 1 static portal. there is much much less pvp. 80% of my runs have been completely free
i tested it on a teammate and it did nothing
🫡
You're making shit up
11 was a good number for goblin caves. Definitely less encounters with 9 and more portals. That means people will make more gold and easier for new players I don't think devs envisioned the game as a pvp death match
yeah well it's 7 now lol. it's a REALLY good opportunity to make some gold considering the loot is definitely better
idc what they envisioned the game at. i dont like the change, but it is very clear the devs are testing something here. gonna let them cook while i say a few times that i dont like the change
it was 9 before the patch. 7 now
bro naked meta bs is full of shit lets get naked and get more ms
maybe i farm caves instead of ruins now yea?
Wow its 7 max now in gc? I'm wasn't it 9 before patch?
Yeah, the spawns seem worse now though
how do you get wolf pelts and troll pelts?
are they going to fix warlock?
you had a few bad gc lol. keep trying you'll get it.
theyll probably just keep adding more shit that doesnt work
7 players is literally trolling for goblin caves, they’re actually trolls
fuck this lag and fuck the devs
lol why does the devs not penalize people who are naked... like you take 50 % more damage type stuff lol so people are not just running around naked
cause you are getting no enhancement what so ever
why have these devs not taken bows and crossbow off fighter and nerfed the shit out of ranged dmg man.. it's so crazy, fighter literally can 2 tap people with crossbow, and why{ lol
anyway to get the download going faster, been like 7 hours at im at 40%
They do... look into armour rating and phys damage reduction
They put you in a corner of the map now, it's more about escaping the void than actually playing the game
Also @plain marsh how about you play the game instead of parroting 'git gud' to game discussion?
If Bards can only bring 3 or 4 songs at base gear now. Where is the buff to the music abilities? I get making them gear dependent but still...
Did you try running launcher as admin?
Freakin meme at that point . Should be way more
bards and wiz have to be really bad so all the shitters can spam ranger and fighter
someone died to naked rogue 💀
Are enchantments randomized when crafting gear?
where are the wolves?
going into a solo goblins to fight solos and everytime im getting either doubled or tripled team lol im done
i think they randomize when the vendor resets
not reseting levels was a terrible idea
How is thst even possible there is only 6 other people in cave lol
my friend and I are having some really bad rubber banding issues on US Virginia
I don't think fighter being the most prevalent or best class is a bad thing. Soldier in tf2 was designed to be the backbone of the team and the most versitile class, but that doesn't stop people from playing the other 8 classes. Ranger on the other hand
lol no .... funny how people run in lobies with no clothes and dont get punished for it
gotta leave more doors open and path better even if it means going into the darkness. teamers often wont bother going through doors to chase you unless they really trust each ohter. most of the time its just 3 ppl in the same room all deciding to kill the most geared one first. close the door, flank around to another side, and they will be fighting eachother or at least will go away usuall.
you guys approach pvp like ur fighting a boss then get shit on because you actually cant pvp then cry
How do people actually have a strong opinion on level reset?
can there be a fkin limit to how many drums a bard can bring in? or nerf the damage of them?
my game cant last 5 minutes before "abnormally ended"
could be an issue with rogers internet though
the max player change per dungeon is an L. (7 Players per GC)
just doesn't make sense. If i can keep my level, might as well keep the gear i gained on my adventures up to the level i'm at
it takes like 2 hours to max level tf lmao
"might as well"...very compelling lol
millions of duped gold and busted pre-nerf items floating around in the economy but ya lets not wipe bc joe has green shoes in his stash he worked hard for those 😆
hate what they've done to goblin caves.
I think the levels are just poorly done right now. If you have access to all of the perks from the beginning why even restrict perk slots? especially when a lot of perks are just a straight damage bonus, it disincentives casual light play
Bro dont joke they had +2 resourcesfulness… 
Totally get it. Just seems strange with the new lvl15+ lobbies. You'd think we'd all get a chance to work up to it
Why so mad bro
games dead and trash now
They over balance and are clearly lacking in some areas. But you're lacking in showers, I can smell this comment
Where does gold spawn in ruins?
The year is 2075. Mechatrump is the leader of the Texan Federation and Gatorrade is the biggest agricultural export of North America. Dark and darker releases its 37th hero, the accountant, and rangers in whites still two tap all other classes and dupe their golden keys.
this new patch kinda sucks. the vendors selling blues, purples, greens makes it way to easy to get gear.
And the player per dungeon change makes the game feel empty and just not the same.
especially with HR crypts with it increasing to 5x5 and only 12 players it is very boring.
You can delete all your characters if you want
Fix rogue
why is none of the crafting gear good for rogue? it all has + magic healing.
If it's so easy to get gear there should be no gear fear of losing it and encourage pvp
Cry baby’s everywhere lol
what is the warlock meta
it's day one of wipe still and it's actually like there never was one lmao absolutely juicers rolling caves
Big red flag that the devs don't play their game or test it at all.
People are way too worried about this and that detail, if you like the gameplay focus on going into the dungeon and having fun. Stop sweating the minor details
yes thats why its bad there being no gear fear makes it feel worthless.
i mean the entire warlock class is bugged as hell
That's pretty typical. It's hard to get an objective look on something you're actively working on and have bias and intent for. Not to say there might not be other red flags
ya i did that anyways. it took me 4 hours to get back to level 12 just playing for fun. exp wipe or no it takes hardly a day or two to level up anyways, so im kind of indifferent to if levels wipe or not. not sure why some ppl are so hung up on it.
Harder to have fun when people dupe without punishment and the devs are well aware the duping exists, and then don’t wipe the game for weeks at a time.
any other clarics having issues casting Holy srtike ?
Damn if you do damned if you don't. People cry too hard to get gear too easy to get gear make up your minds
im glad theyre fixing this rollback but cmon man i lost so much good shit cuz of it
They wiped a week or two after duping was a noticeable issue, and im guessing they waited that long to prevent the issue before wiping.
But aside from that, i had plenty of fin when duping was an issue. How am i to know if the lobster team i just fought got their gold from duping or just skill? Doesnt matter they still wrecked me (probably). And it was still fun
With rogue being dead and warlock being a buggy mess, it has nothing to do with being bias, but devs being lazy and rushing things into the game.
A simple test would've showed them this
could have fooled me ive been getting blasted by it all day
THEY NERFED PUNCHING DAMAGE
?
is there a room in The Ruins that requires some type of key? rusty key or something?
where are the wolves?wolf pelts?
What will the barbarians do
I think way too many people got into the overhype of this game and didnt really know what they were buying…maybe the game wouldve been better off in perpetual playtest phase
Yes I thinks it's called iron door
we are the test. devs clearly have a lot of work to do getting good at game development but they're clearly trying to figure it out as they go. game clearly got way bigger than the studio expected or was ready for.
The game would've been better if they stuck to their vision instead of letting reddit make the decisions but that's my 2 cents on the matter
this has worked really well ty, zoomed like 30% in 15 mins
did they?
nono, dont get it twisted, I'm a cleric that likes running this meme build of rushing people with smite + punching
my base punch damage was 22 pre wipe, now its 16
It's not two cents its facts
Every day someone's crying that it's too hard to get loot then other times people crying it's too easy when devs make it easier. People need to make their minds up
Im sorry but I'm not gonna take anything seriously about "lazy devs" when this game actually gets updates extremely often. Wow an early access game is a little unbalanced, that is in fact what you paid for. But I agree they need to work for their vision and not let the community run it with bad opinions
what key is required for this door?
I LOVE THIS UPDATE
seems to be a bug with the shield mastery perk, guarding with buckler and round shield has a difference of around 30 ms
You guys gotta fix the packetloss the pressing space to jump and not jumping, the casting a spell and finishing but the spell never happens. It's gotta get better before release.
Please elaborate, what parts of the game do you see have strayed from their vision? How could they get back there?
Facts, I am completely disgusted
where do you get gold ore from?
BuT ThE GaMes OriGInAL VisION
vision is elusive. people seem to think theres some amazing master plan. their game happened to be very fun and novel and now they're trying to build it out from there. they dont have some magical future scrying power where graysun sits there and 200iq invents the perfect video game in his head lmao.
less than 24h after wipe, the return of all the sweaty neckbeard overgeared in normal games....fix the high roller please?do something?separate, matchmaking when overgeared maybe, whatever it takes, but fun isn't here
bro i've had this opinion as soon as i saw the vendors. i have made up my mind
thinks very very hard
Maybe a gold ore node?
Look what happened to overwatch when they strayed from the original vision and listened to the community
I can't reply to everyone because 2 minute timer sadly. Yeah when most of your updates are crap it's gonna get called out sorry I don't worship the ground they walk on like Yoshi P.
No I paid for a hardcore dungeon crawler not reddit Skyrim simulator. I would respect them more if they didn't make rash decisions at the heel of a vocal minority
its so, so very easy to build a decent blue kit right now just buying stuff from the merchants, its the new normal so get used to it
so now that the game isnt what i want it to be can i get a refund
OK? I said people. Plural. As in others cry both ways.
can you not go down to hell without the game crashing or what?
i dont play shitty blizzard games. thanks though.
the fact people with purple gear can just go into normals and one shot everyone is honest garbage. imagine just starting level 1 and u get one shot by a class with purple weapons,
Yea 100% just send me sensitive financial information and the refund will be wired within seconds
major L then, try again next run
im just going to wait until next wipe
@high nebula a vocial minority like you?
@winged prawn Neither do I, people like you ruin them
people that are level 1 are in a separate queue
why did they buff the shit out of early game fighter armor? 96 AR on white plate tf?
I think they should add another aspects for the game. Like guilds, titles, guild stash, mob kill counters achivments to make it more social on the lobby/menu you know what i mean? Im waiting for that
Did they remove cave troll boss from regular goblin caves?????
dead serious people with purples and blues should be gear locked to only be able to que for highroller
3 tier dungeon system, hardcore dungeon looter where not everyone makes it out, now there's more blue portals than players in GC.
Speaking of GC, they said they wouldn't balance the game off of that and now rogue is dead because they lied.
Making a 1-14 and a 15+ strays from their vision as well
where do you mine gold?? or how do you get the nuggets?
what part of "its early access and were going to be trying different things" dont you understand, youre acting like you paid for a finished product, this is not that.
People like me who dont play blizzard games ruin blizzard games?
Not wrong, game has gone steadily downhill since pt3
I like that idea
@arctic marlin I couldn't find it and I really do not like the new layout of the goblin caves
@winged prawn People like you who lack the brains the think critically
Its a part of the game, learn to avoid and outsmart these players rather than just complaining
dude purples and blues are literally on the merchant now you need to get good at the game it's time can't be any more free than this now, skill issue. high roller sucks
the only ppl crying rn are the bad rogue players so it is what it is new patch is sick
So I can advertise a game and then change it completely from what I sold it as because it's early access?
I didn't read the part that said they're going to be trying really dumb things out, game is a pve simulator now
Yes. You can change it for any reason.
I literally had this argument earlier, yes these people accept that. They are very strange
literally yes. theyre not selling the product as a finished item. Do you not get what EA is? also you're acting like the fundamental concept changed, which it has not
See any early access game ever?
goblin cave has gone from 0/10 to 1/10, huge improvement
Imagine crying in dark and darker discord. Can you guys not afford therapists or something?
will rupture get extra damage from your physical power bonus?
OW was never that good people are just delusional. especially gamers with zero self awareness or sense of well being. lacking any sense of how to make themselves happy without being dependent on the latest video distraction to do it for them.
Seems pretty scummy and no different than Nexon.
I'm glad baldur's gate didn't pull a move like that lol
gear has little difference, pvp is non existent, everything i hate about this game is now core, extremely cringe
does curse of weakness lower your base knowledge enough that you lose spell memory capacity?
yes
I dont have any loyalty to any developer. Who these people are or what their business practices are dont matter to me. I play games. Baldurs gate was a good game.
sounds like you just want to pub stomp timmies with your high tier gear and not need to think about how to fight
every match now its 2 or 3 other classes and 14 warlocks lol
it's not just overwatch. Happened to tf2, and from what I've heard a good number of other games too. Developers who listen to the community over their own beliefs on what is best for a game are destined to fail
bard rework when, not even playable anymore
Sad state of gamers. They love to think it's a privilege to play a game instead of a bought product.
Wow people trying out the first new content in a while, thats crazy
rangers onetapping 70% of the cast and duping are minor details Oo?
games dead, look at people in trade, numbers are gone, devs made a mess of it. Totally incompetent at not only releasing a patch properly, but of any game sense.
cant get anything from the merchs if ya die everygame to a purple numskull getting better gear doesnt mean you have skill.
see bots advertising 1k gold for 4$ lol wtf is there gold duping bug again or something that seems nuts
This game feels like a battle royale now
lmao "everygame bis kits" no man not everygame has full kits
thats kind of the point?
3 tier is being worked on still, everything else sounds like your opinion to me
Why would that be the point? It is not a battle royal
Damn dude don't speak so much truth to the fresh chasers they are supposed to come to these kinds of realizations in therapy
there's no game that makes a depressed person truly happy. people who think games have the power to make them unhappy or ruin their lives are just delusional. play it or dont it will be more fun some weeks and less fun on others. dunno what game ppl think of when they say "stick to the vision" because theyre all here playing "shit" dark and darker now, comparing it to their "perfect vision" dream game they seem to imagine exists somewhere else. or has ever existed. but that they're not playing right now. because they're playing DaD.
yeah, they shouln't listen to people that primarily play goblin caves period, their opinion should not matter. goblin caves was a mistake in its entirety
Can we pls make Blow of Corruption do less dmg if were gonna give warlocks this much lifesteal
They literally stated they only balance the game off of trios, that's not my opinion that's a fact
every time i load into a match it starts out smooth, and then slowly i start rubberbanding more and more until it’s unplayable
I want the quee's you're in then because i keep running into people in solos/trios that are wearing purple gear that will oneshot you
sounds like you guys just need to GIT GUD!!!!
any word on fixing warlock's broken dark magic perk? its the one that extends the curse duration, curse mastery iirc?
Its your opinion that the rouge change for example was made solely based on solo performance and not crypt performance
welcome to DaD rat more get gold
What are you on about? No game is perfect but what I am saying is that there are numerous examples of developers who listen too much to community opinion turning a popular game into an unpopular one. Did you even read my message?
BRING BACK DRUM META
And this game doesn’t listen enough, and focuses on the wrong things 💀
no i dont read im dented. but im going outside for a while 👍 see you in game when servers are stable again, get rekt.
True, I don't have any proof but anyone with a brain knows they weren't a problem in crypts.
And if they don't then they don't play their game and that is yet another problem.
There's no way you can argue rogues made trios broken
CAN WE HAVE NEW WEAPON FOR WARLOCK PLEASE THIS STAFF IS SO BADDD
bro if your a lvl 1 you should not fight a full kit lvl 20 games shit
How is the roll back situation now? any better?
you literally cant, theres queues for 1-15 and 15-20
There will always be people who detract from every change or lack of a change. Only when there is a unified voice should they really listen
Instead of sitting in the dark and darker discord crying about balance changes you disagree with, you guys should focus on personal growth! Do you truly think your sentiment expressed in this channel will have any impact in the game?
you guys ever feel invisible and like nothing you do is ever enough for anybody around you and you just want to scream "somebody please notice me"? But you don't wanna cry out and feel like you're begging for attention so when people talk over you, you just be quiet because you feel nobody cares what you have to say? And then like maybe sometimes you contemplate suicide? in minecraft, of course.
anyone know why dark and darker says i need an update but chaf wont let me
is archers not being able to reload a new balancing thing? or bug maybe? can you guys still reload on archer?
if you enjoy the game in its current state you have something wrong with you
some of u shud consider getting a job and give the game a break.
haha funy dungeon crawler is fun:)
Okay Josh 👍
Stop begging for attention nerd. You are right, no one cares what you have to say.
Half of these people think the game should be like Warzone with swords
Started dark, and got darker
or play ranger, which hits to similar problems
I'm enjoying the 15 pop dungeons.
its too bad the knock off version of this is way better than this
Question about the interaction of Dual Wield weapons, If you have a sword in one hand with +1 true damage, and than in your off hand +1 true damage, Do either of these weapons deal +2 true?
theres no substitute for professional help remember that
therapy is a scam
No never
yes they would each benefit from the others enchants
has anyone found gold ore nodes? if so where can i find them i've seen none
so much scum in this game, makes you wonder if they are this scummy in real life
u dont realise u are one of them
The reality is that most people are this scummy in real life but use social obligation to hide it. Under the pretense of gaming the true rats of humans can come out
Why are there SO many enemies in the starting rooms in the HR goblin caves maps even in regular mode? Can't even get out of the first room in time because there's 10-20 goblins, half of them being ranged, as well as some death beatles and ghouls.
That's WAY overkill for a solo-queue map
edit for answer: just started the new patch, so fresh gear
????
what kind of gear were you rocking
the solo caves can be easy or hard depending on the class
I'M ONLY IN THIS SERVER WHEN I'M FEELING ENTITLED
Can someone tell me why the legendary Rapier gives 1 additional magic damage, Why? Is it supposed to be a joke, becasue it really feels like an insult.
The joke explained: He will kill you and take the gold on your body therefore you are the gold ore node
Are people still encountering rollback?
It is both a joke and an insult
the new giant centipede attack is the worst addition to the game so far
bruh can anyone told me where gold ore is
anyones game not updating
Love how skill is more important than better tier gear now
no but i dont think its fixed, just people know not to use reds atm lol
literally just walk away from it
Anyone else having really bad connection issues?
What happens if you use red? Do you just have ur inventory reset to what it was before the match?
Does the change in this patch that adds a portal to the outside of ruins, is this a set spawn? and or where is it
Yeha that’s just playing rogue in DaD rn
I love the harder pve that we're getting in this patch.
shops are actuaqlly pretty hype now not gunna cap
just when i play rogue now
red portals still broken?
the mob loves you too
when wipe after this dupe bug with red portals? are u joking
Whole patch needs reverted
Anyone know where to get gold ore?
Gotta fix the packet loss, can't stand stolen jumps. Drives me crazy.
Greed is good is advertising in this discord. Copy paste ads. Same people saying same things.
There’s gotta be some discords out there with above average players cos holy… I keep getting really bad players joining my lfgs
can they just make a duos crpyts instead of ruins
is. rollback. issue. fixed?
This many wipes and tests in, most established players probably have enough ppl/connections to avoid lfg
Are you above average skill?
did they revert goblin caves??
anybody else experiencing the viking sword lantern glitch?
so why doesn't the ray of darkness tooltip say that the spell does dark damage? it just says magic damage. is this a mistake?
shield bash straight up does not hit
ive ranked in solo lb so i would think so, not that it matters but it sucks running into people who struggle with mobs and shit or cant do any bosses or hell at that
when you gona fix this dumb stuck on top of spiders head, it is the most stupid thing in the game
i drop a potion and my game crashes, amazing
is the game worth to buy rn or to many bugs and cheaters?
my bad let me pick it up so your game goes back to normal
It's kinda annoying being a warlock main when he was first out and now that he got this cool update everyone is a warlock main.
which spells are dark magic spells on warlock??
someone knows wehre the gold spawns ?
Not if you like bards. It's good if you like most other things. However cheaters are probably farming gear right now so expect them to come back. A whole lot of them were supposed to get banned with the wipe though.
@subtle heart I heard someone say in the ruins map
Where is this game going ...... dont feel fun no more .
Stop destroying the classes we love to play Ironmace
I hope every player who buys gold gets the worst case of herpes known to man.
nerf crossbow skeles
Just got one taped by a warlock, no buff, no special gear while I was wearing plates as fighter and with a knight helmet.. guy was using a green Falchion
@still abyss @terse crystal Which classes are you talking about? Bard is the only one I used to love and can't get myself to play due to the constant nerfs. I don't care about the spell capacity one we got with the patch. It's just constant shitting on the bard.
anyone else get that bug where you are in a lobby with three people but when you are entered into the game you get yeeted from your team and have to fly solo?
That’s been a thing skill issue warlocks have like 90hp your mistake was letting him get close to you
Hes a melee.....lol. All barbarians got a skill issue because a class can do that much dmg in one hit? Wut lol they have a bunch of spells now and vampirism....
anyone figured out what this new ruins portal is?
How is this skill issue ? Barbarian doing one-taps, fine, Warlocks fuck off ain't no way this is happening with common gear. Warlokc is ain't no heavy hitter.
it 100% is a heavy hitter with BoC lmao. It's easy af to avoid too, see him clap his hands? run away and time it out
@upbeat notch Rogue is the same way
Yeah BoC needs a nerf probably. Warlock has a kit now...why in gods name would u let them freely dot and run away with vampirism while also allowing them to do like 100+ dmg in one swing. What is this garbage lol. It feels so OP playing this.
honestly done playing this trash lol good luck everyone. Maybe better game changes then i will come back lol
Anyone know where new boss is on ruins?
Yeah the rogue nerf wasn't elegant at all. Who would have thought rogues were a class that does stealth?
The developers desperately need to adopt the concept of a PTR....what is this "throw shit at the wall and hope it sticks" development. Theres no need to do this lol. Just test it out first...balance it...then send it to the live server. EA is not a good excuse for throwing random stuff in the mix and possibly making a mistake you then have to backtrack on (hide....double jump ..etc).
if u think warlocks r OP u need help
Those of us who bought the collector's edition were promised access to the PTR, which hasn't shown up yet...
Its not my fault you play against weenies. I play warlock and it is def cheesy AF in 1v1 against all the melee.
the races n emotes we buy get wiped?
They need to undo the map changes. These new maps are literal garbage\
take purples/blues away from queing in normal games and lock them to only highroller
whats bad about it that makes you quit
this entiore chat is just a bird bath for people stuck on the short bus
I legit thought this idea. Problem is it kinda belittles the power gaining feeling of getting epics because you then HAVE to play against people with epics so you never gain power against the enemy. Idk if an MMR would help either because the pop isnt THAT big. Might end up with tiny lobbies on the high end.
fix the damn warlock you cant do shit in this game anymore
Literally everything in this patch is bad. They didn't fix any of the problems and just made more.
is there still lobies under lvl 15 and lobies that are 15+ ?
Just lower the dmg on BoC o.o warlocks shouldnt be able to do 100+ dmg in a single swing against a fully plate player or barb. Nerf doesnt have to be huge. Make them need two hits to kill instead of one. Give players a chance to counter.
life drain isnt working???
Is the old goblin cave map in rotation or just completely gone?
Its like some weird mix of the different sections from HR and Normal it seems...idk. Havent gotten a grip ok it.
this game is in the worst state ive seen
its honestly better than blues and purples just pub stomping new players or players just coming back from the wipe
Someone ?
facts
HOLY SHIT I JUST GOT MY FIRST GOLDEN KEY, WHAT DO I DO, SELL IT OR WHAT
true
probably hold it for a minute, value probably hasn't peaked yet
Is grey longsword just not apart of the shop pool anymore, I've been playing all day looking at every refresh for it and it hasn't shown yet.
this patch is sick
I think if combat wasnt dwindled down to "stack buffs and one shot enemy" 60% of the time the difference between these gear pieces wouldnt matter as much as blocking properly or map knowledge. Combat is still way too fast and so that gear difference between greens and purple is literally "2-3 shots vs 1 shot". Shit...people are one shotting people while naked with a nice weapon (boc warlock...barbarian sometimes)
Anyone else want the map changes reverted?
what does bard take for songs at level 1
Giga buff goblin caves with troll pelt lol. And less enemy players. So free.
Did they add kissing your teammates yet
Why heavy boots give more armore than plat boots?
Sadly no 😞
XD GC is willllllllld right now
magic damage does funny things
How are you guys clearing the goblin caves, it's so hard for me due to how many mobs there are
bro any bard/fighter with good aim will 2 tap you lmao
update moving so slow any suggestions?
Bait out goblin attack then hit em and repeat
Q3 2025
I know how to kill them, I'm saying how do you deal with the 30 mobs in every room
Get out a couple times and then get some gear
My bad slime, pull in a few at a time, I usually fight 2-3 goblins at a time to clear rooms
where do you get gold ore?
when is druid out
FIGHTER CROSSBOW DMG AHGAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH 80 hp non headshot XDDDDDDDDD
YOu cant raw dog every game
So bad
i love the new map
nah its nice actually being lost again for once
Nah these new maps are so shit
terrible
lmao theyre the highroller map
I agree, it's great.
Anyone know how to properly use life drain? I seem to not know the trick to it
Its channeled which means you cant move
ranger nerfs seem to be working. i walked into a trap and survived a long bow hunters attacks while disarming it. KEKW. get rekt bow boys 
They catered to the casuals and this is what the game becomes. Cried for removing burst damage and now the game feels like a slog. Cried to balance gear and now a white is same damage as a purple weapon.
As in it resembles syphilis yes
its too clustered, too many mobs in some areas, the new trap placements dont fit, and more. the whole high roller map thing is fine, it's just the cluster of stuff they added to it
do the races n emotes we buy get wiped?
rogues burst damage was literally casual player heaven
Bro I’m casual I did not want this rebalancing. Idk how they managed to make this game so boring and unmotivating to play in one update
Bard cleric fighter still just ridiculously strong
This man hates fights lasting longer than 2 seconds.
true but it was gutted too hard it should have SOME burst dmg with wpa
7 ppl on caves is dumb
People still running around 1 tapping people all day with purple so you are objectively wrong lol. If anything damage needs to be reduced further
the new "weapon damage" on the crystal ball doesnt affect offhand, and crystal ball doesnt do weapon damage or have a physical attack, is this intended?? its useless as of right now
The problem with the game is… the “end game” is juicing low roller for a lot of players and now that gear gap is lowered and ttk is slightly higher they hate it.
you don't even play the class my dude you arent even 3 tapping with purple anymore literal brainlet take
Is Warlock bugged for PvE right now? My power curse of pain is dealing 0 damage to NPCs @subtle heart tyvm!
How would you know what class I play? My wizard friend literally got 1 shot earlier by a ranger from across the room. Full to dead in 1 hit. Barbarians still killing pretty much everyone except plate in 1-2 hits. You have no idea what you are talking about
take off curse mastery its bugged and makes CoP do no instant damage, and takes away the healing and damage from PoS
oh yes i thought you were talking about rogue..yeah only rogue dmg is gutted still
why are there so many people complaining about the new patch, i love the new patch i think its great
Lmao, good thing they delayed for multiple hours. They really worked out all those bugs
damn thats a pretty insane bug to let slip through and go live. i mean not as bad as the dupe glitch but still insane for a class rework to... not work
DO LUCK POTIONS CARRY OVER INTO HELL IF YOU TAKE THEM IN WHEN YOU SPAWN IN NORMAL
Because fun is subjective
For me I'm happy with the new content. As someone said it's a breathe of fresh air, but for me it's got a stinky fart mixed in.
Idk if I just got bored of IM and DaD but it just feels less fun this wipe. Also the new ui and things like that are hideous imo
how the fuck are they gonna make torches have a speed boost
I have watched rogues kill people in 2 hits today also. My ranger literally died in 2 hits to a rogue today. Just stop using daggers. Rapiers kill people before they even know they are being attacked. Literally every problem with this game was ignored or made worse with this patch. Worst patch to date since the begining and I have been here since the very first play test. First time I have considered just quitting with them being so out of touch with their changes.
dude with a torch just wiped my whole team not even lying, and its happened multiple times now. totally trash change that they didnt think through in the slightest (par for the course at this point)
bruh unless you're fully kitted you're only doing 60 headshot with ambush on dummy with purple rapier with some decent blue gear lmao, barbs and fighters still 2 tap you
literally died to two guys torch killing. Peoples killed the whole server. so fucking lame
Lmao, your rogue can survive the first hit from barb?
If you are dying to barb and fighter then you are literally not touching your keyboard. You can run circles around them. You need to change how you approach a fight. Ambush, weakpoint 1 shot is gone. Adjust
yeah if they dont headshot me LOL
@fresh marsh its almost like barb has rage and fighter has sprint 4 hed no one is asking for 1 shot back but wpa should give you some dmg bonus it's useless rn with this weapon dmg..even 25% is a good place
WHY DO THE BOLA GOBLINS NEVER MISS NEVER
i want to sleep with the goblin archer and have hot sweaty relations with them
which stat is related to mining speed`?
still having issues with game rubberbanding like hell when i’m in a match
resourcefulness
agreed. pretty laughable to think rogues simply expect to kill barb/fighter, the characters with the highest effective HP (armor + HP), before they can even attack you once. if they're using a 2h that can "1tap" as they all complain about, they attack slow as shit, you have plenty of time to move out of the way.
how much luck do each potions give?
casting spells in waiting room shouldnt spend charges. why is this still a thing?? why is only warlock able to test its spells?
anyone know if there’s like an issue with the US servers rn because it’s been just really wack the past few hours
Greed is Good fixed that issue, along with loads of others. Wish this game would learn from their competitors, rather than just spite them and refuse to accept good ideas can come from outside your company.
if any class loses by default in any situation that isn't balanced my dude
is ray of darkness not stacking buff damage properly? Just cast a full beam on a gob when I had full Soul Collector buff plus dark enhancment perk. was using base gear as a dmg standard and it doesnt even kill a full gob. seems strange it's not doing enough damage to kill a basic goblin in one cast
anyone have any idea how to get firefly abdomens
lol, yes if you make a cheap imitation it is easy to make fixes on the surface level. Play that game and have all your information stolen by some cheap chinese company.
because they cost health lol
sounds like a drop from dragonflies lol
Torch > lantern for off hand speed boost?
agreed, so why do rogues want to kill fighter/barb before they can even swing their weapon? literally seeing them complaining about doing 60 dmg on a headshot, when they have the fastest attack in the game. 2 of those headshots is a kill on most classes, and you can easily move in/out while doing it.
Didn’t the weapon damage change only help rangers ?
thats on a naked dummy so on geared players you're looking at 45 or less unless its a squishy that has the same ttk potential..meanwhile barb is 1 tapping to the head and fighters are 2 tapping and unkillable
Whats the deal with torch killing?
those are both % so if you have a low baseline damage then its not gonna add much mate, its exponential scaling
boof
my steam information? wtf you talking about? lmao i have played it, quite a lot actually. it's not bad, definitely server lag issues just like DaD during peak times (peak times being when DaD is taking 12 hours to do a fail-patch, meanwhile GiG patches multiple times a week and is only offline for <45 minutes at a time, usually at 3am my time. again, wish IM would learn from industry standards, publish patch notes in advance, etc.)
Too bad the combat is shit or I would@agree
where do you use rusty old key is it in goblin high roller or regular
greed is good 24hr peak less than 5k 
a few simple changes to it can honestly fix that, like removing 3rd person POV. wall/corner peaking with 3rd person view is super cringe. rest of the combat just needs to get smoothed out the same way DaD did. definitely hand it to DaD for better combat "feel", but it takes more than that to be good these days
how much is golden key now?
† d&d GUYS
pretty cheap since there's another duplication glitch ruining the economy on day 1 of wipe
@sleek holly leave the server holy shit. You are so negative. Dont like the game? dont play it. Blocking you because all you do is cry like a damn child.
where do we get the firefly stuff
Yeah hes kinda a bum right
from the fireflies
2 dollars
hold the visa
@zinc sparrow @glad thunder new map is so bad ngl
Also add poison back on fists losers
they need to revert the goblin caves if i wanted high roller id Q highroller
lmao struck a nerve with you or something? why do you care what i say here?
and dont get me started with shmucks like this guy who think the devs are just going to read their messages.
Hey guy ! Devs Fix bug lost all loots or not just back and dont see any update
dO LUCK POTIONS CARRY OVER TO HELL
Probably a narcissistic who believes everything revolves around him tbh.
I disagree that GiG is a good game though. It's definitely a soulless clone, but i must say this patch has been less fun feeling
did they fix soul collecter?
oh i see you're just a troll who's simping for the devs cause their stinky stick is rammed so far down your throat it's starting to hurt when people point and laugh at you for it
Anybody else ran into a Problem of game kicks you out and gives you the message
it Ended Abnormaly please restart
and upon restart it stays like this (Seemed to have a drop in my Internet connection when it happened)
who asked you ? dog
Dark bolt benefits heavily. But sometimes it glitches and uses all your souls despite not casting a datk spell
So works but has bugs.
Sadly, no update yet. Game is still broken. There's also an item duplication glitch being abused so hopefully they just wipe again once they correct these issues in the next 24 hours. If they don't wipe, gold farms gonna have a field day with sales this wipe.
thank you
Thanks for the server drop, I lost all my items
this is a public forum . Post something stupid someone should call you out for it.
so whats the meta class this patch
No worries
Btw love the pfp, is that Mickey Mouse?
lmao bro you need to watch yourself or you will be banned
RANGERS & RANGERS´S
cant even extract due to all the fkn rangers in a lobby
oh no, please dont ban me. I love seeing people cry and moan like they are owed something from these devs. They work hard and you gremlins still cry over nothing. so disrespectful.
Nah it’s judge holden from the book “blood meridian”
EACH UPDATE GAME IS WORSE LOL
the class balancing in this game is the epitome of "if you can't beat em, join em"; we'll probably see 50% of the player base comprised of ranger/warlock this go-around. oh and wizard.
wait how do you know there is an item dup glitch?
i like the patch , i just remove the game because i love it too much 🤓
Hate to be that guy but @severe schooner ? Guy probably needs a warning , just going off of your lads rules and such. (sorry I would ping warden role but is glitched and wont let me) (Also he editied his msg, so check logs if you're willing)
@grave mango Also shit apologies. My dumb butt can only see micky mouse. Looks sick though either way. WAIT I JUST REALIZED THOSE AINT EARS, IT'S HIS HAT. LMAO
I was really into the old goblin caves map and now I can’t play it at all. Kind of really sad
did they ever hotfix the not getting ur loot bug
wats up with fighter and cleric getting like 80% dmg reduction?
loot rollback from the hell portals being broken, need teammates to escape but effectively you can duplicate any item you bring into the dungeon. including an inventory full of gold, keys, legendaries, etc.
go cs or greed and good , IS FREE this game finally rip
if u got a captured mana flask msg me
The devs should remove the trading fee or make it way lower while they classes aren't balanced, it would be nice to be able to sell to bards for cheap but it's not worth the time.
They do 
Lol
then I feel absolutely terrible for them. this discord is filled with people that complain and will do so no matter what change is made. it's disgusting.
yeah the new cap is 75 and i think that is insanely too high as well. 50 would probably be more reasonable. 50% dmg reduction is insane, idk why that's not seen as insane. fighters should stack PDR up till that and then str for more effective HP. pretty ridiculous to just be able to push PDR to god-tier numbers, agreed
Aren't you literally complaining over people giving opinions? No offense but you're part of the issue with the community
HOLD THE VISA , COMING PAY TO WIN
Aren't you the literal child that went into another channel to snitch on me? I feel like your probably que solo...
he just hates free speech when he's not using it
Can the volume when you click between tabs get lowered or have it's own volume tab, it is pretty jarring.
dam felling axe naked hitting 82 hitting almost as fast as rapier kekw thats balanced btw
Lmao, I'm gonna drop this. But hey do whatever you want, if you think calling people impudent monkey's over opinions on the game helps the community then go ahead
yeah i shoulda reported him for what he called me earlier, surprised he didn't get banned already. oh well, i'm guessing he's got a lot going on in his personal life today that's causing him to behave this way. it's pretty jarring but people don't just react like that if they're doing well mentally.
whats the purple stuff that the giant centipede shits out
centipoop
100% this new normal goblins is trash. map way to damn big. go back to normal goblins
Poison it hurts a shit load
Its curse mastery fixed??
rangers & arrows release at steam 🤓
pls fix warlock i want to do dmg and be able to have all of them and not having to buy a full set of knowledge gear, fuck BoC you can remove it
rogue is too underwelming
As god intended
only complaint i have is they messed up normal goblin caves...lol makes me not even wanna play the game any more 😄
remove it and gift , dont dude mate this band of liars...
how would you feel if you weapon deos 15 dmg and the blue verson does 18
has the randomly getting rolled back when going to hell been fixed? tryna do hell runs but like half our runs we got rolled back
what does it mean when it says "it ended abnormally, please restart"?
purple stilleto be like damn im 17 and ive seen whites at 15
weve gone to hell 3 times back to back in the last hour and its been fine. US EA
with the 2 abilities on warlock that arent a spell sheet being a melee im surprised they only added spell related perks
❤️ BEST DEVS
HOLD THE VISA
I like the patch. nice to buy good stuff from the traders. loot also seems more common and overall better quality in raid. gearing up isnt a massive time sink. obviously lots of tweaking and content needed to fully flush out but i dig it
best rogue dagger does -1 dmg
so is bard just going to remain garbage?
rogues whining even in game discussion smhg
you think they will add more general perks for warlock?
tbf bard had like a month of god mode, they can suffer for a few days until they get some rebuffs lol
(our group runs bard as well, so its a balanced take KEKW)
i wasnt whinning i just made a kinda funny joke i wasnt trying to be like that it just the class feels kinda useless rn
fighter should be buffed, double our damage and give us +30 HP
Second Winds should have no duration limit.
Anyone know what drops the dark matter item?
they need to fix the bug where bard songs just get eaten and the spell UI lags on the screen for a second
Honestly can't think of a good justification for gutting rogue then leaving ranger the way it is tbh
then its like rogue players cant complain about it but every other class is begging becasue they think there's needs a buff
warlock blow of corruption?!!??!?!?!?!?!?!?! WTF?
Just fought a barb with 180 hp and 37% armor reduction. My purp viking sword barely scratched him. Need some damage perks, shouldnt have to rely on rolls for that. Speaking of which, did they remove the ´+dmg rolls completely? Havent seen any so far.
yeah unironically though fighters need more damage, not tanky enough to tank, not hard hitting enough to DPS, just a weird middle ground atm
fighter can use crossbow or bow if you cant play with every weapon in game its a skill issue ngl
as much as I hate rogues the dagger dmg nerf was overkill. Ambush perk needs to be replaced with a slow instead of dmg to remove 1 shots
are the hell portals fixed?
How does longsword parry work? is it class specific or?
question does a lantern count as a secondary weapon for slayer build?
YES
so you guys dont like the map changes? it feels so good though, I love the randomness it makes the game less repetitive and more exciting
I do like new goblin caves, feel bigger and theres more open areas. Not so much hallways simulator
can anyone tell me what the rusty sword thing does 😭
crafting item
make barbs slower tho tbh idk how a barb can catch me if im warlock full naked with fists how the hell is he faster lol
does they nerf magical healing? i see only 1 items
the pvp blows so bad in this game if you have starter gear i cant get over how bad this is
i think its a bug, lots of people bringing this up this patch
coming from the guy with the 14 move speed shoes
ikr, tbh still i am 300+ ms naked and he was faster idk how he had grey gear on
you're supposed to enjoy getting rushed down by geared players
red portals work fine or still bugged?
As a barbarian myself I do not obtain that glitch unfortunately
The snowball effect this patch is insanely too high first game i played today 3 separate groups running purple gear and capes gross
Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but does anyone know why my buddy keeps getting disconnected from the game with an error message of, "It ended abnormally"
I JUST GLITCHED IN A CORNER AND COULDNBT MOVE FIX THE GAME
fix the fck bs movement speed with the damn torchs
we really need to turn down the no-lifer incentives
I mean I think the no lifer incentives are kind of turned down gear is more accessible than it's ever been without having to haggle with no lifers on the trader's market.
really ruined the damn game
once everyone? bro they are already doing it and the game wiped today lol. They should give diminishing luck on time spent on this game resetingg daily or something
I mean you could just make a level 1 and play through to 15 again
why does a fighter only visored barbuta roll with white will?
anyone else hate how theres rarely ever if ever any grey weps in shop to buy?
Just dont play the class you enjoy because people have twice your health armor and damage is not really a good fix
Anyone had a glitch were u que into a game as 3man and lobby makesyou all solo qued?
I hate what this game has turned into. I’ve decided I am officially done. I will see where its landed in three months from now maybe. Goodbye for now and good luck in the darkness
yeah i mean i figured if i played wipe day i wasnt going to run into cape bois literally every game i have played (6 games so far)
does anyone actually like the hr map in notmal gob caves? i dont but curious if others do?
facts just make cheaper type capes available at the tailor or something so you can at least compete
new warlock here, what are the best spells to run? is hydra worth?
so hide mastery is busted it only lasts 27 seconds
Is the hotfix out so i don't lose all my shit?
No. Big part of why I’m quitting
Are people's inventory still being cleared at random?
The layout is just actually painful and with only 7 ppl on a map you dont see anyone except the giant room. completely ass. If i wanted to play this garbage map id go HR
is hell still bugged yes or no
fix cleric's smite bug please
It's not busted; it's just that Rogues have a trash Buff Duration, which Hide counts as
i fcking hate rogues i hope they get nerfed more trash people
lol you must be bad. rogue is tough af right now to play. ever warlock be 2 tappin
i 100% agree, and the spawn points are so fucknig bad
so it says 40 seconds for the hell of it ?
I don't really have any issues with the new map but I've just been running barb into it.
I run barb and I hate it. Not because it is hard but because it is not fun, at least not when you account for all of the other changes they made as well
Anybody else having problems getting blacksmith to run?
i can only assume they are using this to test if more ppl will play HR due to map familiarity now. but pain
is hell still bugged yes or no
just kill a guy in goblins he was pretty gear has a honorable fight. i respect him. but i got a rogue follow me the entire match he just go far and get back to me every time. he was there behind me like a rat hidden and invis all the time. i kill this guy i knew the rogue was following me all the time. i was very low health i decide go move away from the body to heal because i hear his footsteps. he took almost all the loot and ran like a rat. i chase him from all over the dungeon he was faster obviously he close the door and went invis. i knew and take a blue potion enter the room the atack me and fail and ran with all the loot and get out
I would think the smart thing to do for that would be to just make the HR a harder version of the regular maps people actually liked then
That is how rogues play. if you dont like it then chase them down. try playing rogue and you might see thibgs differently
yes i know i only get his purple crossbow the rogue take the rest hate him
anyone know if dark reflection triggers if you block the attack?
does anyone know if hell is still bugged
I despise the new goblin caves. I just wanted to fight people.
This guy gets it
God I want to know too, but no one knows I guess lol
yes last i knew
I have seen no input from the devs about the hotfix so I would assume it is still an issue.
its a rogue is supposed to play like that. not 1 or 2 tap players with invis. do not change the fact that i hate those rats
why are prices so low in trading chat? is it because its the start and not everyone has money, or because items are in the shop?
ive wanted to go to hell so bad today to farm but ig not lmao. new crypts i can barely find teams its just looting sim
does anybody know how much luck the greater luck potion gives
what is the range of luck that the 150g pot can give? just drank it and got 50 luck :/
Okay they NEED to revert the storm cicles. This is nuts. There is no time to loot or fight anything before the storm is closing and you have to move again. If they want to add in another circle, then increase the amount of time in a match.
new goblin caves are so bad, thers 2-3 spawns its almost guarantee you arent making it out of cause the circle is always far as hell and you have to kill 10+ monsters to get out of the rooms. the storm starts moving so damn fast i cant even loot anything, and just have to try to run the rooms which never ends well.
This game is taking an L fast, everything just feels slow and bogged down. Feel like the shadow nerfing wizard staff swings which takes ages to pull a wooden stick, takes then years for a barb to swing his axe and bring it back can’t even fight pve properly because you can’t move anywhere while swinging
I agree. It seems like they sped up the circle which seems rather opposite to their desire to slow things down.
did they nerf the warlock healing?
I thought something from the update was supposed to be something to show item rarity in the inventory with color coding or backgrounds or something? Am I mistaken?
Maybe they just show more phases of the circle now, so it feels faster
Heyo
Are green rarity rings and necklaces more common or am i just getting lucky finding them? Cause i been snatching them off of mummys and such.
nah loot table got a buff. finding blue’s constantly
at this point im just going in with starter gear and hoping i can make it out, cause no reason for me to waste the little gold i have
Yeah i know they are in merchants now, but i am still having trouble sellings purples for even 100g
yeah i just exit to lobby and try again every time i get the HR GC
bug and buger
welp see they haven't patched the gold dupe. Caped out all purp under 15 lobbies rn
WHAT A BEAUTY PATCH. I just played warlock from 1 to 15 and it was the most fun I've had in a while
Escape a skeleton by closing him on the other side of the door. He hits me through the door. Such is life in the dungeon. 
YEA IM SURE! ITS OP!
how much do golden keys go for again i just found my first one ??
Where fire fly body
who knows they used to be used as gold storage but now we have gold storage
"IRONSHIELD: Client File Corruption detected! Please, Recover this and restart game." any time I try to launch the launcher. anyone know how to fix this?
find a new game to play until they get there shit right
Please… I need to know people…
how much do golden keys go for again i just found my first one?????
what do i do with rotten fluids item?
They're used for crafting. Can't remember which item
they used to be standard 1250 for gold storage but now we have gold storage
crafting at vendor
400-600g
yeah if you are too close to the door it still makes them swing and it breaks the door
what is the golden key room on the normal crypt? i wonder!! same loot less loot??
Craft spear at weapon smith. Maybe other crafts.
What’s dupe
I was atleast 3 feet from the door 
In regular hell the skull key room is just a room
Does the token of honor do anything?
I like turtle
use it to craft the blade of honor, a legendary falchion
It let's people know you're a warrior of honor
yoo gc so freakin confusing..... map is wonky