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It's not buffed read the part right below the Ranger part ppl 
Why are people talking shit about the patch notes they are all great
Talent tree???
@tulip cloud do you know if servers will be down for the full 4 hours?
no ranger nerfs, rip game.
lol so 12am at night we can play new wipe, gg to people with jobs
pog patch
Not much of a multi shot if it shoots one arrow bro lol
Usually lasts the whole time
Toxic turds from other games š¤·āāļø
Who cares. Trading is a huge part of the game. Move along with your smooth brain take.
Oh God imagine that with the Elven Bow of Truth. 3 Rangers just suppressing a hallway with Gatling Guns š
@shy mulch thoughts on the update?
Ikr wtf. They had like weeks to plan this they do it during peak gaming hours?
Im from the future. The patch was releases, but people still are complaining.
patch notes are out but is the update out?
Love the patch, cant wait to play
@shy mulch
weak patch
Wait did they buff the ranger?? Lol
No
So can we confirm the dev's play ranger only?
speak!
slayer fighter gonna be running around with a lantern
Rangers are difficult to deal with, but not impossible. Just gotta be good at dodging.
remove trade and nothing changes about the game itself. It's not a huge part, it's just an easy way to break it lol
Its not a huge part for you. There are p eople who literally just trade all day.
is it 6:30 their time?
Thatās up to how long the patch takes to apply. Some patches have finished early but since this is an especially beefy one I wouldnāt be surprised if it takes the full time if not longer.
#Mouthbreathers
Is reset still not out?!
All weapon damage rebalanced. We donāt know what they did to the bows yet.
@fossil heath It shows your time zone
check announcements goddamn
Do we have visuals for the new artifacts ?
Are ther actual patch notes? I literally don't see any balance changes in announcements. Just fixes
check #š¢announcements for information
The last patch was like a fart that was pushed way too hard.
just finished reading that patch notes im glad they finally added a new coin purse and a mini chest for gold thats awesome!
Merchants updated to sell a much larger amount and variety of items. This one is a huge W
You are right but unless they nerfed the heck out of bows they buffed ranger for the most part.
are they changing bard??
This guy is in copper 5
@tulip cloudok thats what i was assuming! TY
Several other changes not listed were included
We wont know anything until we see the weapon rebalance
MANUAL DEXTERITY AND PERSUASION?!???????
is there any place to see the patches not listed?
The fart that became a shit and weāre all headed down to brown town š
guess I'm playing minecraft or some shit tonight
I thought they would completely revamp all of the classes, but most changes were fro Rogue and Ranger.
Oh boy, can't wait to have to hit each mob 3 times as much to kill it
Bard was reworked so was the warlock.
no triple shot anymore šÆšÆšÆ
did they nerf rangers finally?
get better gear
Where do i read the notes?
Several other changes not listed were included
manual dexterity will probably be related to skill in lockpicking, bards playing
Wondering how the tripple shot thing got changed. If a longbow now only shoots 2 with a significant damage reduction it wouldnāt be that bad anymore. But I wonder if the slow still is the same because that is the worst part of facing a ranger for me. But lets see im pretty hyped with this patch
The Normal and High Roller Crypt now share the same map pool. What does this mean?
I'm guessing persuasion will be for bards, but it feels weird adding a new stat for a single class
Yeah man I hate getting head, eyes by Rat Jesus at the Arena extract. They totally ripped that off from Streets 
Are you dumb? They're nerfing weapons across the board but keeping the PVE hp the same.
wait is wipe still happening?
weapon rebalance could include bows so im holding out hope
im going to turn into a fucking skeleton before i get to have fun in the new update
yes in like 30ish min
dark and darker 2 when
oh yeah true
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Severs up yet?
not as dumb as you 3 times more? do you know how much that is?
druid confirmed?!?!?
bro the changes look nice asf
yeah I think some of the biggest changes are hidden in a complete weapon rebalancing and also adding additional attributes to armor
ranger mains let me hear your tears!!
A little, traps deal less damage, multishot gives different arrows based on bow type and a bunch of cooldowns got longer for them.
It says all, I think they want a slower paced game so every weapon took a hit is my guess
HYDRA SUMMON
Does this mean golden keys can now be used in regular???
MASSIVE PATCH, WE LOVE IRONMACE
Oh ok thanks btw
wipe wont be finished till 12am est
The map got updated and applies to both normal and high roller
The amount of absolute apes in this chat is crazyš
super reasonable ranger nerf, love it
in 4 hours i think lol
I understand the hopium, but aināt no way in hell they would leave something as big as Druid out of the patch notes lmao
Perfect because I don't get done with work until 1am EST lmao
Fucj sake bro
"Ranger getting nerfed" LMAOAOSDFNIASDIOF
never doubt IM to patch Prime time for 4 hours.
what timezone are they in
does ruins have a rusty key room again?
Thanks
What does persuasion do?
that could be exactly their intention. make it a surprise until the patch is out 
same my brotha
I'm glad that no spell warlock build is finally gonna be completed
What do they mean sub boss? Is it an actual boss or a mini boss?
damn no servers tonight, guess i play dark and darker from wish.com on steam while i wait
@obtuse hamlet Are you streaming the patch right after the update?
Nobody talking about HUGE warlock buffs
āMap increased from 4x4 to 5x5ā what does that mean?
Bigger map
WHERES THE QUESTING
Because they arenāt buffs they just finished the class.
warlock was already fun. now i cant wait
did the devs say that they arent responding to ban appeals or something? I havent been able to play for a month and I've sent in multiple emails/discord messages/ and 3 support tickets about my problem. They have not responded to a single one, not even a "Hey we got your ticket we'll get back to you". Is anyone else having this problem? What can I do to be able to play again? All i want to do is play the game but ive run out of ideas on how to get help.
HR Crypts was smaller than regular crypts. Now theyāre the same size I think
It says in high roller pool, so unless thereās a Ruins high roller I think it might be in High Roller Crypts rotation
Summon Hydra? Interesting
do I make the video just reading off patch notes or do I wait for the game to be updated LMAO
Lol this patch did in fact just add a bunch to a class thatās not even done yet. Anyone that expected Druid when warlock isnāt even done is wild
i bet hell be the next bard. all those new skills already sound extremely OP. ppl are gonna cry a lot about warlock, just u wait lmao
That seems cool for sure. What do u think persuasion attribute does?
DARK AND DARKER BACK ON THE MENU (still think ranger needs more nerf but we'll see)
what does share the same map pool mean? someone explain
is the wipe hepppening today
each map consists of "modules" aka rooms in a 4x4 layout now its 5x5 so the map is just a lot bigger
Get rekt exploiter
the amount of people in here that refuse to read a couple lines of patch notes blows my fucking mind
this patch is actually so good
How tf a hydra gonna fit in some of those tunnels lmao
100% was my take-away too lol. Incoming magic damage Hydra builds or some weird shit.
hydra op
Better merchant deals? Better goblin merchant stuff?
Fuck it man do both farm the views why not?
Nerf hydra already
I don't really like that there are hidden changes, but overall a decent patch
who knows what "Weapon Rebalencing" means might be more of a nerf than we think
3000 gold coin chests, 500 gold coin bags
Well, thatās that I suppose
wtf are these chanes... bard reworkd is just that? You gutted the class, it can't even heal properly anymore and all your doin is changing attribute and stats???
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Lol
Wrong my friend. They added new spells to the warlock. When Ironmace releases new content, it's OP at first and they level it over the next few weeks. Warlock got a buff and are going to be OP.
Plus they made curse easier to land ob targets. Warlock will be OP!
essentially HR maps and reg maps were split so you couldnt get on an HR map in normal mode, but now both HR and reg share the same pools
Fellas, should rogue get nerfed again for farts n giggles?
an exploiter wouldnt try for a month to get their account back when a wipe is about to happen. theyd just get a new account
us warlock mains eating GOOD
they made it so the bard spells actually scale with stats
But like, how did you get banned though
Warlock looking pretty hot rn ngl
what timezone are devs
So all players
i wonder if this hydra is similar to diablos. like a static turret that shoots crap
Did they reduce dmg of all weapons? Or only wizard got nerfed
glad i was always nice to warlocks
Warlock gonna be busted, calling it xD
How do you know?
warlock always was busted
the new warlock spells sound awesome
It literally says in the notes you silly goose
Finally some summons as well
Hail Hydra
W update
what does share the same map pool mean? will i see high roller areas in normal now?
"by the way also Warlock got a whole new kit and are gonna bang hard GL GL"
reworked damage not reduced. Meaning who knows
more like SNORElock! because I will be in bed waiting for implementation
Bard skills scaling is a nice surprise.
3v3 with bard = engage with buffs, win the fight and heal over time with song. Not my favorite but it's workable as long as the bard buffs make a difference.
First pvp vid gonna be triple hydra watch
how can iplay spellcaster effectively on a controller hmm ive got like 8 extra buttons
noooo they nerfed ranger?!?!?!?!
holy shit summon hydra
hell yeah brother
@crimson void yeah "Bard reworked to make the class more gear and attribute dependent." -- I could be wrong but only way that makes sense is that spells actually scale with gear/attributes.
tomorrow there will be 90% lock lobbies lmao
7:30 est or what?
That ain't a rework... thats a fkin adjustment to an equation... you got bs songs and an entire class that just runs on songs and you decided to nerf its healing... so wtf is it now??... you can't boss with Bard the same way as cleric. It's dumb, you have on healer in the game now, cleric
40 new level modules 0_0
Bro have you seen Warlock talents? āTorture Masteryā, āVampirismā āCurse Masteryā You were nice to a bunch of sadists lmao. Your gods will not save you. Only screaming
Adding new spells, hence completing the class.
Wow that some logic. No an exploiter would be that guy because they feel like they didn't cheat if the game let them. Cheaters/hackers are the ppl you're referring too.
What is " level object density" ???
where's the link for the unlisted changes? people are talking about perk and stat changes
More shit to interact with in each room
Golem boss is hype boys donāt lie
how many crates are in a module
I'm so stoked for this update. can't wait
You have a hard time reading between the lines I see. Poor fella.
the problem was that the spells didn't scale with stats properly and were too high with a naked bard. they reduced the raw stats but made it actually scale up with your stats. sounds right to me.
rangers buffed time to play greed is good smh
so 11:30 EST itll be playable?
No you just canāt English very well lol
so much new stuff thank you Iron Mace!
Update looks like it might be good 
No, patch will ātake longer than expectedā
hopefully! Delays are always a possibility
Is this update gonna wipe the game?
You literally donāt know this lol. Theyāve gotten done early before too.
? wheres the buffs ?
Anyone else not understanding half of the patch notes? Itās so confusing what are modules what are artifacts what the hell is cloak cloth simulation Whatās armor rating curve am I just dumb?
Ranger got a good nerf, I dont think people realize how big the quickshot nerf is
theyre all the same. and i got banned a month ago, there werent even gold exploits or anything at the time i think. its just insane that they havent responded to me once
HTF do you get past the skelton knight in Goblin Caves?!
Lot of stuuuuuuuf. I need druid and pala plssss
Anyone with a rare ign for trade dm me
Quick shot improved and slow on hit not addressed for rangers is my biggest concern
Damn this updates huge
Rogues are back btw... cutthroat... a nice 3 secon silence cooldown to 28 seconds... that is insane. A wiz or anything caught is done
I mean a geared bard is already OP if played correctly, I don't know why ironmace is just nerfing "default gear experience." Whats the difference? @south needle
Druid might shake things up as a healer and we donāt know how strong Bard buffs will be with the new Persuasion and Manual Dexterity. Could make people super tanky or deal absurd damage or debuff bosses into the dirt or something. Wait and see
what the hell is persuasion going to do? can I talk a team into not killing me better?
how is it improved?
Quick shot duration was increased and the number of arrows depends on the bow?
How do u know itās been nerfed? Apart from the cd for all u know quick shot could fire more arrows now depending on the bow. It doesnāt specify
FOUR HOURS?!
These changes look incredible. Fucking hype.
Lol worst time to release patch
Think they will overnerf ranger until itās a joke, if you werenāt running blue longbow as it was Barbs could just run in a straight line at you then 1 tap you. Now depending on the dmg nerf on bows, barbs might just be unkillable by a ranger in goblin caves
In lamans terms the capes look cooler, they have new sections of map, and armor isnāt op at high lvls
When you are in melee range of a wizz he is dead silence or not. useless spell
I think itās pretty obvious longbow will probably still do 2 or 3, recurve will do 3 or 4, survival will do 4 or 5
BIG PATCH
Huge patch milord
Okay so thatās a significant buff for survival bow users
im so confused. how much health does the cave troll have and does it reset when you leave the area?
Why didnāt they increase wizard damage by 1000%???
Dark and darkers speciality is releasing patch at worst times
Good content update! Looking forward to warlock!
I can only accept that if they nerfed the damage stats on all of the bows and made it so that physical power and strength is harder to get.
Which is like 4 players in the whole world
a man of class
naw, haste, invis, something... it also applies to all skills, not just wiz spells. So clerics and any class can't use a skill while silenced.
Based off what else they said in the patch notes, I think that may be the case
You can't nerf rangers enough. Range is inherently OP especially in this game. This game is an FPS battle royale except some classes don't get guns
Thxx
If I get two shot by a blue longbow and the guy isnāt wearing juicer gear Iām suing IronMace
its not a battle royal
Triple show nerf gonna make people prolly ditch the biscuits for multishot 100%
New warlock meta??
You can nerf rangers with map design with tight corners range becomes much less efficient
Hail Hydra
Actually itās not really crazy op in this game considering the distance is at most a room length? Acting like theirs open fields in this game you gotta run through to get to a ranger
Still no friends list? Lmao
Survival bow prolly gonna be new meta
It's 08:14 in South Korea, on a wednesday, so it's not that bad tbh, but yes for people from the American continent it's a very bad time
Buff fighter
I agree, that will level the playing field but unfortunately SO many modules in this game favor rangers.
whispers Hail Hydra brother. (I really hope itās a skill shot)
Artifacts are uniques like pestilence and shit. So thereās new badass weapons. Ones called Stinky stinkā¦..lol
They said all weapon damage has been modified so that probably includes bows.
Hello from every outer module in the ruins, along with ruins bridge room and zombie trap room.
Several other changes not listed were included.
How many is several tho?
Bard is literally just a ranged class though. Crossbow and stacking 10 drums in inventory with 50% utility change + 50% music weapon dmg. Literally just bhopping with stacked nuclear missles
Ohh
Most of their population is America lol only people playing tonight are the streamers typical lol
Damn, I would have bet money they were gonna add quests this time
Ranger buffs les go
Good start to the ranger nerfs but they need to go like 10x harder
The cooldown is reduced
NERF AXE SKELETON
What have you done brother?
True. But we know it coming. This updates huge enough
gold storage change are huge
what nerfs? they were buffed
If that Bard dies he loses all of his drums, his crossbows, and even with buffs you really arenāt that fast with drums they have a -30 move speed reduction.
I dont even feel like i know enough of what they did list haha. What the hell are the new base stats for everyone? Is fighter still 15 in every attribute?
Everyone saying ranger nerf when recurve bow could have a 5 shot quick shot⦠we donāt know
How so ?
"All weapon damage has been rebalanced."
No one knows anyhthing because we havent seen weapon damage. talking about this shit is stupid and pointless
is the druid being added this wipe
WATLOCK MASTER CLASS LETS GO LADIES!
Yeah but you can buy drums pretty cheaply compared to other "throwing" weapons
This is the key. The ānerds might not be nerds
Several other changes not listed were included.
What the hell is the bard changes
About to stomp with Cleric. Watch out MOFOS
Has it updated yet?
true
I wish I knew too brother
@abstract glen Hail Hydra
The fuck is summon hydra on warlock.
for sure, not a complaint, just slightly surprised. I'm excited I don't have to use keys/rubysilver as value stores anymore
we're about to find out š
Bard dropped a little too hard
Ranger's Multishot cooldown changed from 35s -> 28s. I forgot about the trap damage nerf, but that doesnt really matter
It's just not fair that some classes literally have 0 fighting chance in some modules unless the ranger whiffs all his shots. A lot of rooms have melee so exposed that it's impossible to extract unless you block/dodge 20 arrows AND THEN kill ranger with melee. So you're not relying on your own skill, rather the ranger's lack of skill.
What yāall think summon hydra is?
Quickshot was nerfed so that is all people wanted
I was/am planning to start with a sub 15 bard to build wealth, maybe not now.
Yeah i read that. Iām saying that they didnt even give enough info about the changes that they did list. Like basic info on the bard rework, new attributes but no info on new attrib loadout for each class. All good though, guess iāll get a look at it tomorrow.
Itās cooldown was nerfed but maybe it shoots more arrows now it hasnāt specified
A summon of a hydra, per chance
Everyone crying about the ranger literally sucks at this game
what? no one even uses that
bunch of entitled apes. insane patchnotes keep it up devs we chilling
hopefully its a zoning tick damasge AoE
my game wont update? but it launches
Here it is guys. We found the flying rat.
real
Love that wizard got nerfed and ranger essentially got buffed fantastic
We can only hope the weapon damage rebalance is bows doing half their damage and I can gurantee you the ywont be shooting more arrows. They will be shooting less. Expect longbow to be 2 arrows max.
bro they added the stinky stick š
The patch starts in 10 minutes and will take 4 hours to complete. Read the announcements people, holy shit
update drops at 6:30
The biggest hope for the game right now is bow damage got hit very hard with the nerfbat
Iām hoping itās a skill shot like lightning strike where you select a location on the ground and a goddamn hydra head pops out and bites whoever is in that circle
I wish it did it drops 4 hours past that
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Unless the ranger is geared out the ass, it takes 8-10 skill shot arrows to kill a barb/fighter/cleric for them to run up to you and hit you once in the head for a death.
Actually hyped af
hey watch your fucking mouth
I think ranger is in a good spot. But I main warlock.
anyone else think that warlock is going to be more spell focused instead of melee
Orrr it could be a god damn spirit hydra thatās summoned for like 20 seconds and is your minion
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Get a spear. I hope it takes 15 arrows post patch.
you ever played barb? ranger with his weapons out is faster than a naked barb. Easy kite easy kill.
8 new spells have been added to Warlocks: Bolt of Darkness, Evil Eye, Bloodstained Blade, Flame Walker, Life Drain, Ray of Darkness, Eldritch Shield, Summon Hydra.
HYPE AF
2 arrows for a 28s cooldown ability? It could easily be 4 now
rogue gonna have innate skills? like lockpicking and pick pocketing. Shouldnt take perk slots xd
Cry babies will continue to complain about ranger when they realize they were just shit all along
Will it wipe?
Absolutely will not be. Rangers were overpowered they wouldn't buff them.
Donāt hold W? Just go to a different room lol
Read announcements
That could be really janky though especially if itās corporeal and blocks doorways. Imagine summoning your badass minion only to have it body block you while youāre trying to run away from a Barbarian 
Yaāll gotta read the patch notes a couple times to let it sink in. The game has been changed radically and completely.
Maybe 4 with a survival bow.
warlock actally has spell now
U know there was a reason rangers havenāt had a hard nerf yet?? Because the devs play them so ofc they gonna keep them strong
There is the swarm, sometimes you can't. That's the whole point I'm arguing. Some extract points are unreachable if you have to go against a ranger as melee.
ofc, perfect game balance. Melee should only be able to run and hide in different rooms than rangers. Makes sense.
if the advice to deal with something in a game is "run, dont fight" thats generally a pretty clear indication theres a balance missmatch happening
Stinky stick I want now
Fuck thatās a good point. Ok then itās like a turret it stand stationary and shoots magic lol
Whats the new moduales thing mean lol just new looks and did gc get new rooms?
The patch notes clearly state that they reworked damage for all classes. Rangers got nerfed. Try reading.
no it isnt
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brained
will it wipe or nah?
Sounds like we got an entirely new GC alongside the existing map.
Level object density for Ruins and Crypts has been increased.
thats gonna shit on performance
Hate it
what u know about that STINKY STINKKKKK? Shouldāve called herā¦.
That ranger walks into the room, heās dead isnāt he?
its a pretty clear indication that different classesa are good at different things, not what you said
Can you use the golden key in normal now since they share the same map pool?
MULTISHOT POTENTIALLY BUFFED DEPENDING ON WEAPON BOIIZZ!!!!!
Ooooo how cool would it be if you could stick it to a wall and it just blasts away like a wall turret? Suppressing fire while you channel a hellfire or bolt of darkness š
GIve me one bad critique about it
I wonder if people in this chat realize an arrow shoots in a straight line
āDont try to fight usā is the free square on a Ranger Defending Ranger bingo card.
The same thing can be reversed if you are in the last circle where a portal is, and a ranger is trying to extract and needs to pass you. Heās fucked⦠one or two shot being forced out of the storm into your hands. Itās not the class, itās the scenario. Better place yourself, most rangers play to their strength and get circle early with traps
Wow, update notes are great.
No it doesnāt say that?? Bard and warlock are the only classes with major reworks. It says all weapons have been re balanced, and rangers quick shot is different depending on the bow type. That could be a buff for all we know
Nah bruh those shits curve sometimes just to hit me in my tinfoil hat. Iāve seen it!
Lol tin foil hat
we should make it common etiquette that people give back empty coin bag / chests when you trade them full ones so you dont lose them, since they will actually be worth something compared to coin pouches
why cant i login update isnt for 4 minutes right?
lolz
It makes an already tedious āgetting readyā process even more drawn out
6:30 CST?
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Upgrade your toaster then.
can we read about warlock spells anywhere?
It clearly says 'all weapon damage has been reworked' in the patch notes LOL
Duo HR is real?
Wait till patch update and there be video in minutes from a streamer lol
Nope. Roll warlock or bard to find out what changed.
U said all classes reworked before idiot re read your original commentā¦. Now ur back tracking
Is anyone gonna play tonight after update?
Doubt it
except we weren't talking about a specific situation, yes any class can fabricate a sitauation that lets them play to their strengths - the problem is how easy those situations are to make for your class. For ranger, its completely trivial.
im sure there will be alot
cargo ray is correct here.
anyone know how to fix the error code 503 when trying to intially install the game??
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Instructions Unclear; Dtck stuck in toaster.
quick question, should i wait to install until after then patch comes out or should i go ahead and install it now? wondering if the game updates by reinstalling the whole game like cod or eft or if it just installs the update and removes old files?
I cant wait see the several unlisted changes hope its quests
keep dreaming
This u? Funny that how u changed your entire sentence come one pick one itās either classes or weaponsā¦.
Im just gonna gym and go to bed. Maybe wake up a few hours before work to get in a run or two. Or maybe just shelf this game for a few months til some more content gets added.
doubt...that's a big feature they would have highlighted to hype people
It downloads the changed files, usually is always less than downloading the whole game. So yeah download the game now.
Are you actually upset about somebody making a mistake on discord? You must b a treat to be around man
you were disrespectfull first man
Thats it im going to sleep rn so i can dream it! Ha take that
And they said I was crazy 
He made up the scenario I responded
They just had to sneak that little wizard nerf in huh>
Not upset itās just ironic how your the one throwing insults like ātry readingā at me when your making tragic mistakes like that.
āLearn to readā -discorder that read something incorrectly once. (I read things incorrectly all the time. Especially after being exposed to the radioactive global chat in GiG)
Nah y'all are just sensitive. They added 10s to the quick shot cooldown. If thats not a nerf IDK what is LOL
Weak patch games dead
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Bruh no perks for warlock. They hard trolling
yep, not allowed to have anything that can actually threaten PDR
What were u hoping for with the patch?
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The updates can be more than a few hundred mb but definitely download the regular game first if you can
Anybody with a rare ign that wants to trade? Dm me
the scenario listed was barb vs ranger and you said "dont hold w." idk what else to say.
Thx atleast you get it
Whole lotta angry nerds in here holy smokes. Find something to smile about it's just a game š
its a 5 dmg nerf to fireball lmao youll be fine
They made the dark magic perks work though by adding dark magic. And vampirism looks to be fun .
They said they rebalanced all weapon damage. Just hope for the best and that longbow got slaughtered. Iām happy they went w the change that was suggested of different bow types having dif quickshots. I hope its the one we suggested, which would be doubleshot lbow, triple recurve, quad surv
Just try the Nexon shell studio version
Wdym looks? There's no stats known yet tight
on top a spell that was only the best of the trash spells to begin with
and you're right, the 0.01% of the playerbase that tried wizard will just go warlock now, lol
Yeah he said if he had to run to last circle, then I replied if you swap positions itās the same shit. Barb would kill the ranger trying to get to last circle while barbs holding it
I personally hoped for nothing maybe see druid class but the changes will be awesome to play with and the new warlock spells will be fun to mess with also weapon changes and merchant changes cool to see ugh just cant wait to play
Vampirism and Curse Mastery sound strong tbf. With his new Dark Magic spells they probably added Dark Magic scaling making his already existing perks work
thinking about ironmace going bankrupt because the game has died gives me something to smile about š
Ranger is still fine. These nerfs don't do shit
so hopefully they didnt overlook barb because barb torch meta is gunna be insane
Weāre just calling you out you were the one who was getting petty first then when we use the same attitude u cry and call us angry? Sort your ego out
Wish there was some sort of quest system put in. Just wish there was more of a motivation to keep raiding
your math aint mathing
Shhhhh donāt tell them, let them continue crying about other classes.
Yes. And torch barbs, and god wizards
I love this game but the combat and movement just feel too slow even for a hardcore type extraction rpg, its sluggish.
touch grass lmao
more detailed notes when?
Barb camping a portal against a ranger will eat 4 or 5 arrows before he has to exit. Ranger camping portals will stand there until he gets the eye shutting animation in the last 2s of the match. Not the same.
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/432354319887761409/1156372796558028840/image.png?ex=6514bb97&is=65136a17&hm=9b07aed2a0a9a99a5c958b0a1c4221fcea612a7fb9c4f47f8bf16b838aef7135& Project crawl dropping at the same exact minute the patch goes live LMAO
literally you rn: š¤
so they give 30 mins for people to get out of matches but game is wiping anyways???
lmao i know what class im making hahaha
Heās touching grass alright. Just not the kind that grows on your lawn
just for you saying that im buying 100 dollars worth of red gems (meant to reply to the guy you were replying to)
I'm going to cope and hope that the skill tree or quests weren't included in the patch notes and relate to the last bullet point š„¹
Where do you see what they do
Honestly no oneās talking about. How nice is gonna be putting names behind the map sections now. No more made up āmummy roomā shit
Are you guys excited to play the new patch of Warlock and warlocks?
DRUID WHEN?!?
When you people hop on, shoot a bow and realize that it does less damage, i'll be happy to accept your apologies
LMFAO yall are so fucking cringe im dead
just a joke to belittle how insignificant the nef really is- bet you're fun at parties
LOL THIS!!!
LMFAO YALL
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Happy to serve you, Prince.
What if bows do less dmg but have armor pen
What is a hydra and why is there going to be 15 every match when game starts back up
We donāt until patch drops lmao. From the sounds of it though Vampirism is going to be lifesteal of some kind and curse mastery is gonna make his curses do more damage. Just speculation ofc but what else would they be?
Bows already have armor pen.
that's crazy that overall rogues got nerfed 150x's any other class like bro LMAO
The same dudes are still crying about Rangers hahaha
you guys think quests/talent might've snuck their way in? or am I smoking huge conch š
The only nerf to ranger that the patch notes say is the increase cd on quickshot. Infact the other 2 skills got buffed stop acting like you know it all
YALL ARE SO FUNNY, SILLY EVEN, right @quartz crane ?
wait for weapon damage rebalance, they could still do some damage
Thatās because nobody likes Rogues and dying to invisible land mines is bad for gameplay.
Wym? Surely itās calculated as debuffDuration * (1-debuffDurationModifier)
All of the stats granted by gear are derivatives of attributes. Will grants debuffDurationModifier
Does anyone know if the warlock perks that were not working are fixed in the new update?
What? "Weapon rebalancing", do you even read?
The dagger nerf was part of the weapon rebalance they jsut released it early. Expect all weapons to follow the same downard scale
its majority of the player base lmao. they probably lost so many people due to trash balancing
I really hope so š
Persuasion attribute added makes me think maybe they will add more questy stuff soon maybe before a wipe even, or maybe itās just a bard exclusive attribute
servers just went down
Nice
Rogues getting double jump is a 200x buff compared to anything else
Is a bow a weapon? Is a crossbow a weapon? Was weapon damage rebalanced? Yes to all of them.
What do rangers use again?
Stop being dense & connect the dots man
What perks? Dark reflection got updated to work yes
Thats not what it says. It says all weapons were reworked (hopefully bows) and it says depending on bow type, qs will work differently. Likely 2/3/4 lbow/recurve/surv as was suggested
persuasion influences vender price maybe?
make it out of alabama before piping up next time buddy
U think if devs didnāt think rangers were balanced they wouldāve nerfed them 10 patches ago??
Rn Iām assuming itās just knowledge/will for bards. But maybe they also split action speed off of agility into dex.
it just feels weird we got to keep levels. So its making me think they secretly added in the skill tree
debuff duration only affects you. not the debuffs you apply to others. so gear with +debuff duration only makes poisons and other debuffs last longer on you, allowing more ticks of dmg / their debuff
My guess is that Persuasion will affect how powerful his music is while manual dexterity will be how fast he plays it. Just my speculation though.
Persuasion probably governs bard songs
the perk that gave you stacks based on dark magic spells
persuasion is just charisma to scale bard skills on
barb torch meta is gunna be INSANE what were they thinking
idk what to say, rogues need to be up close and also are so squishy they get one shot. otherwise it's unplayable. balancing means fixing the issues to make the class do what it's supposed to do.
WIZARD CAN FLY NOW LETS FUCKING GO
Im from australia wtf u talking about ahaha
Also differing amounts of arrows shot on multishot, id imagine the longbow would only have 2 while the survival might have 3 or maybe even more. Can't wait to find out.
ooh that sounds fun
"Updated environments for approximately 40 level modules." What does this mean exactly?
Tbh I hope youāre right, I was thinking the other day it might be better if there was both a dex and an agility attribute or something
welp thats that then
"Several other changes not listed were included." they better mention what these changes are several could be 50+ unmentioned things they changed based off the definition of the word "serveral"
The soul collection one? It technically worked before but the only dark magic warlock had was dark reflection
everyone is mad that ranger characters are able to compete at range. Let them be, we will just keep givign it to them in the dungeron:) hold my spear everyone
Does that mean even more to dredge through when looting lol
@woven rivet incorrect. literally read the description when hovering over debuff duration in game. It only affects the debuffs to your own character. nothing else
More generous curse of pain aim is a blessing for a bot like me šš excited to see the new spells
rangers nerfed lamao
It could also be the case that Persuasion gives him spell allowances the same way knowledge does for Wizard and Cleric. You might need a certain amount of persuasion to play certain songs?
Several literally refers to 3-5 at most.
is anyone else stuff still say its under maintenance
Ranger is the most underrepresented class in HR leaderboards besides warlock lmao. Whatre you on
so do warlock spells count as dark magic? or not yet
I donāt think theyād make an attribute that only benefits one class? Donāt u think it would have to have effect on other classes as well?
I think the Stinky Stick might be a quarterstaff
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So bard is getting reworked to be more gear dependent, but my main question is will it be fun?
wait who are you
most popular duo team: double ranger.
imagine its just the new map traps xD
Blood battle warlock coming on up. Vampirism on my falcion, taking health with my hydra at my side.. the life
I guess we're forgetting that quickshot also changes the amount you shoot depending on the bow.
increased level object density = more loot?
They did not before. Unsure if they do now
ur dad i left 30 years ago
Where does it say (hopefully bows) in the patch notes?? It just says all weapons keep dreaming
If I can be the music man, then itās still fun.
That is literally what they did
Bows are weaponsā¦.?
okay another 4 hours of trolling and reading discord āŗļø
thats what ive always thought while playing this game - "man I wish I got more of an advantage for having better gear than my opponent"
i think this game is really fun and interactive š
They added a poop stick. Stinky stick gaming
I like the way you talk magic man!j f kennedy voice
jokes on you, im 13 weirdo
It might have an effect on stuff outside of songs too. For example Agility might affect Action Speed and the new Manual Dexterity could affect Interaction Speed. Just a guess though
ranger nerf = well small update on cooldawns āŗļø
rogue nerf = TAKE THIS PIECE OF SHT DIE DIE DIE DIE DIEEE!!! š« š
i have alder lake and ampere, wbu little man
@robust nymph dude been hating on the ranger since early September. Never mind the OP Clerics though.
so guys how bad is the new torch barb meta gunna be because holy shit its gunna be fucked with achillies strike i think
"sweeping changes that will affect every class" - huh 
Bard was never fun
I wish they told us what the new attributes are for
a weapon is something you can use to inflict damge on people. aka a ranged weapon, so ya
They also rebalanced quickshot and all of the weapons in the game dude
I guess your forgetting that if something is changed it could mean it is buffed aswell u canāt call it a nerf if it doesnāt clearly say. Itās simply just a change
You take that back
that explains alot lol
Yea, i replied that to homie cause he seems to not understand that lmfao
is slowmode here?
Without literally knowing what they mean by the term "level module", I would venture that they either updated 40 individual level sub-areas or they updated 40 individual level assets.
Looking at some of the new spell names, ex bolt of darkness, it seems like yes but we wont know for sure until patch is done
Oh yeah, literally just directly buffing that, and will help with ye Ole rogues hiding in the dark so dope.
That sounds wrong that gear would have a negative effect when all gear rolls are based on what attributes do.
https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats#Debuff_Duration
Wiki does say you want it to be negative though. Will still adds to it though? For sure high will characters are affected by goblin dot for a shorter time than low will. So originally were you just talking about the UI color? Like on a rogue if I check my stat sheet, it would be blue cause itās positive and thatās bad. But for cleric or wiz, itās red. Right?
explain why you're 35 arguing with a kid in discord
I'm more concerned with "am I having fun playing with the base mechanics of this class" than "are we having an advantage over other players"
No one knows what persuasion does soā¦.no we donāt know if thatās what they did. And I guarantee the attribute will have a broader effect than just bards
There was a time, when note skipping was at itās peak, and drums were thrown freely, that Bard was fun. Now itās just a song playing wet noodle. Hopefully the rework makes it better.
bOwS ArN't WeApOnS
My toasters is made by GE. If you want to compare computer specs then you should list actual computer parts not random words you googled and don't know the meaning of
Persuasion prolly effects summoned creature's
LMFAO IM NOT 35 jesus kid dont take everything literally lol
WHAT A WEAK RANGER NERF DEVS ARE RANGER MAINS CONFIRMED
servers are officiailly down, the update process has begun.
Yes but if every weapon is nerfed by say -1 weapon damage then it effectively has no decrease on rangers. Why are u saying rangers are getting a weapon nerf when u donāt know?
ur problem if u can only enjoy classes when they are OP
We all know that it's not going to increase arrows significantly and if anything may bring them down or keep them static.
Longbow may shoot 2 and recurve 3 etc etc. But I guess you're forgetting that they still NERFED ranger anyway.
nah the dragonballz pfp says it all, you're def 30+
they're rebalancing every weapon too so you haven't seen the extent of it. Stop indicating that your panties are this bunched on the discord please
my thoughts too
im 20 lmao but ok
You guys think the new treasure chest item will be tradeable?
I was literally a lvl 20 Bard during the playtest he came out when he was garbage and nobody would play with you when you were Bard. Iāve seen the rise and fall of the class donāt even @ me
Summoning PatchNo... Wait a minute
pedantic arguments about semantics.
Ironmace: "Time for your next nerf dear." Wizard: "Yes, dear."
Wish it was going to be earlier than midnight when the patch is over
How dare you. Bard is so much fun still! Being the music man is fun as hell.
Anybody with a rare ign that wants to trade? Dm me
Sure it will have other effects as well but it is literally a stat added for bards to scale their songs off of. So they literally did do that.
why game doesnt work
About time the devs make a good update. excited to try this out one
Has update ever been done early jw
WIZARD CAN FLY NOW LETS FUCKING GO
Item skins are now displayed properly on the paper-doll
The hell does this mean?
No
How do you know? Source?
so you know nothing about hardware. noted. also noone knows what GE is supposed to stand for
Yes
This is the micro transaction update
Fortune teller now are u? The only clear nerfs are the quick shot cd increase and trap damage but traps arenāt used for damage anyways. I think your forgetting 2 of rangers skills were buffed wich could mean ranger has a different play style
I remember one time they said 2 hours and it was done in half an hour. But last time they wiped I think they said 2 hours and wound up taking closer to 6
It was more fun when note skipping was easier I think we can all agree that playing the same songs over and over gets old. Unless youāre singing into the microphone while playing it just aināt it chief.
When patch
Wizard nerfed after already like 3 hot fixes of nerfs w00t w00t
What strange brew are you attempting to make by stirring shit? Weird witch
General electric. A common manufracturer of household appliances. You listing code names for architecture shows you know nothing about hardware and are trying to sound smart. Its not working by the way.
Pain
Everyone make a warlock class and letās have hydra battles. (Prolly gonna happen)
This update changes the whole game, gonna be like night and day. Bet there's a bunch of other shit they left out from notes too, sucks ass they scheduled it on a weekday right when everyone gets home from work though lol.
Yet it was still nerfed via quickshot; our main one š¤¦āāļø you're so down bad xD
multishot was buffed by 4 sec which doesnt do much, same with penetrating shot. quickshot has 10 second longer cooldown and different arrow amounts for each bow which is a big nerf.
Shadow money wizard gang still up tho. We love casting spells
Ahh kk ill set up for tmrw then lol but cant wait to see vids and stupid geared homies tmrw ;p that was a joke its gonna be great!
I like that note skipping isnāt easier. It was brain dead easy before m8. And that sounds like a personal issue, I still love hearing the songs. I get why theyād get tiresome tho, I just still love em lmao.
If recurve bow has 4 shot quick fire thatās a buff
Druid news? T_T
Item skins are now displayed properly on the paper-doll
WHAT DOES THIS MEAN
p sure lonbow is 2, recurve 3, survival 4. but idk
It likely has 3, long bow 2, survival 4
they said they reworked all the weapons damages. id be shocked if longbow didnt get nerfed
I'm guessing long bow 2 recurve 3 and survival 4
I think there softer nerfs because triple shot is by far the most popular. Trying to encourage more variety I think
It means item skins are now displayed properly on the paper doll.
Its going to be 2 for long, 3 for recurve and 4 for surv most likely.
I'd rather note skipping not be a thing unless you're willingly trying to use less than perfect music. On the other hand as they add song we'll only get a larger repertoire to draw from.
@reef solstice copium
i have to sleep and will miss the post patch meltdown in here unfortunately.
I don't think it is that big of nerf. If ranger turns a corner and is at melee with someone and hits his first arrow and then 2 multishots - I'm already dead. Whether he uses the third or kite and uses a normal arrow - I'm dead
But what if purple recurve is 19 dmg now? I mean, just like youāre saying, we donāt know what really changed.
Exactly you donāt know so why u calling it a nerf? I already addressed the cd increase
Good for you. I literally canāt play Bard without Allegro just so I can get through my buff cycle faster. Itās so damn boring hitting right click passively but I enjoy debuffing enemies and mobs before swapping and fighting. The class isnāt boring itās just boring after doing your buff cycles on repeat for 100+ hours
Brain dead morons read all those patch notes and all their brain can compute is that Rangers are still OP
The paper doll is a new ai companion you can dress up and hold onto gear for you š
"Sounds have been added to UI, Items, Perks, Skills, Spells, etc." does this mean sounds that other players can hear? There were sounds for most of this stuff already, no?
cause it would be a nerf if its anything other than recurve getting 4 arrows for some reasaon.
You could always mute your sound so you don't hear the music.
lol, these are the same people still crying about rogues after all
deciphering some of these patch notes is only going to be possible in 4 hours
I know we donāt which is why Iām calling out people saying ranger got nerfed
I think we all knew druid wasn't getting anything this patch. They just "finished" warlock with this one so we can expect another 3 months or so before we get the first news about druid.
yoo those rogue nerfs totally make sense now that we can see nothing else except wizard fireball was nerfed š
Hopium v copium
The music is actually really good muscle memory the perfect notes are timed perfectly for each song
Given that the devs definitely know the community thinks rangers are op, the fact they didn't specify that they nerfed ranger in the patch notes is a huge red flag that rangers are not nerfed
Nah stats on gear look to be changed which may be inadvertent nerfs to other classes also
@upbeat notch I like note skipping but I see your point.
@tulip cloud I mean, chief you should be using allegro so you can cast faster. Thatās a given. I like repetition so im cool with it. Just not the class for you I guess.
Itās the highlight of my night, wish I had popcorn
No game skill players stay crying. This is the way. Either way, shadow money wizard gang we up
well now that you googled it, you know that my pc isn't a toaster. and I used those terms to see if you even know anything about pcs, turns out you don't, so much for that
surv bow still ganna suck even if it shot 5 arrows lol, no one wants to spend 50g on arrows and have 0 invintory space
ya im just gonna have to get up for work early lol
It seems both crafting and major changes to gear are in place. Impossible to say what is nerfed or buffed.
See you in the 6am lobbies lol
You can cope more. If anyone knows anything itās pretty clear how much devs favored ranger itās pretty absurd to think they would just nerf them to the ground after all this time without nerfing them
For real. I get 2 shot by them on my wiz but I don't see a problem. However it's time for Hail Hydra action
How dare you! I am the OG Bard main but yeah I like the class more when Iām in the thick of it debuffing enemies and picking off the backline sue me. The repetition of his passive play is boring the way he plays during fights is fun.
Me knowning instantly what you were trying to pretend like you are talking about disproves your entire statement here. You also still haven't listed a single PC spec lol. I am guessing because its probably worse than a toaster and you are ashamed. Prove me wrong though.
wait are servers down?
I didn't like using note skipping myself but I was willing to let it be if they weren't nerfing the bard over and over again partly because of it. However I did want a different perk that allowed me not to be a sub-par bard for not using note skipping and instead playing my songs fully.
That more.gold inventory space tho. Now we can see insane economy in action and more gold selling
6am is when i need to be at work lol
Bouta haste invis my barb w his purple lantern horsemans axe setup
Maaan i been saying all day ranger is probably going to be nearly identical post patch, haha. Iām still hoping that i get to eat 2-3 more arrows per engagement.
They never touch ranger. They probably like where the class is at, and hopefully elevate other classes to their potential. Might be hard though cause ranger offers huge advantages that other classes cant
"All weapon damage has been rebalanced."
surv bows special perk should be that it costs no arrows to shoot. then maybe id use it
Did everyone overlook the part where the patch notes said they rebalanced ALL weapons? Sheesh
An Angry Barb torch lighting ass hairs on fire is the way
So your coping saying rangers will stay the same. But your hoping it takes them 3 more arrows to kill stuff? Contradicting yourself then. Hope v Cope
Oh my brother in bongos, Iām the same way. I buff my team and myself, I debuff the enemy, and I run into the thick of it for kills. These hands arenāt just for playing music š¤
Wizard chain lightning nerf when @zinc sparrow
Iām really hoping the lanterns increase movespeed by rarity. Actually gonna have my barb at max movespeed w a purp horsemans/purp lantern combo, thatd be hilarious
why are people arguing about GE toasters...how did I miss that?
Thin line between hope and cope. Itās all hope until Iām in the game. Iām really not trying to be confrontational with you, either.
U started it lol
WHAT IS THE STINKY STICK
Biggest patch of EA and the first note in patch notes???
āFixed character hair appearanceā

Lightning rod off cleric/barb is too funny, no chain lightning nerf
torch and lanterns giving a boost is kinda stupid tbh, it should just be 0 change to speed
I wanna know what Manual Dexterity, Persuasion. atrabutes are like are you going to be able to perswade a mummy to not attack you or are they adding NPCs in the dungeon
in your pants
HYDRA
PAPER-DOLL
MANUAL DEXTERITY
PERSUASION
????
Iām so happy cause wiz fire ball got nerfed it one shot rangers both at base gear
crypts map sharing isnt wanted or asked for i feel like, no one likes the high roller map lol
I hope the 500 coin purses aren't a pain to craft
Nah bro, scroll up, that was someone else. I third partied this argument on your side and caught aggro somehow.
Have you considered not dying to fireball? That might help.
I donāt see chain lighting a lot, maybe bc I play mainly solo but I think itās balanced just for the fact that you can dmg ur self if to close; take the range out of wizard/ranger and they are easy kills, however the shooting a mob/ dead player to proc it should be fixed
Ruins Golem subboss
The what now?
You hit that rousing rhythms for the +3, the Allegro, The Aria and Beats of Alacrity, Harmonic shield, Song of Courage, Accelerando, Flute of Weakness, then crossbow the backline and go in swinging š„µ Orgasmic
they require 2 rogue or ranger buttcheeks to craft
Lmao itās ok
They are trying to lessen the amount of reasons that mid tier players have to forever avoid HR. One of those reasons was āwe donāt know the mapā. The issue is, mid tier players never want to get better. Theyāll always find an excuse
They need to lower player count on ruins to 12
Iāve only died once to it I was being dumb and was giving stuff away and someone didnāt like that and killed me
So how many of us think they added the skill tree?
Crossbow? Sike. Iām that guy who runs survival bow and actually gets kills with it lmaooo. Then I run in like āAyo catch these for me real quick, itās my handsā š
I get that but I just dont like the map in general and I know some others feel the same
0% chance
it would be in the patch notes, why you dumb
I luv millennials need to create words for shit that existed 1000 years before they were born in an attempt to make it special and unique to them.. "cope" we use to just say "deal with it"
it could be one of the several things
You guys see jaygriff buy a Fulgore and take it into low level lobbies.. thats cheating ban him
A mini boss for the ruins map (golem)
indeed
i mean read the last bullet point that shit could mean anything
ironic considering that edit š calm your tits
Iāve killed a couple rangers with it and lolād but the drop is too much for me. It does decent damage with courage buff but crossbow bolts take up less slots and I find more success head hunting with the faster projectile :p
What the hell is
manual dex
and
Persuasion
Anyone else really excited to try new perks/spells for warlock?
can't wait till ironmace loses the lawsuit and has to give us our money back
Just watched that gameplay, explain to me how a lvl 11 can get into high roller?
Language evolves, as long as they're not forcing me to use their dumb words then I don't care.
yes incredibly
Honestly was hoping nobody saw
EVIL EYE š§æ
the ridiculous names they keep giving weed, or bags of weed....Im just like wtf are you talking about lol
Of course it sounds wrong. I think its an oversight
And yes originally I was just talking about the ui/tooltip color. And I believe for all classes it would be bad in its current state. I believe they need to go back and give the stat double check because I cannot see a use case where you want it / where high will would change anything
Is cope millennial? I thought that was zoomer lexicon. And uh, the word existed and was defined before it got portmanteau into copium lol
lol you cooked him š
@shy mulch
Okay i tried GiG and it was a terrible experience
Agreed honestly. Iām just stubborn but yeah, the drop is ridiculous. Youāll be across a small room and it a like throwing a hot dog in a hallway
Does anyone know if the skeleton race decreases damage dealt from your own spells as warlock?
bro i just wanna collect my coin man'
i literally didnt say that... i said he bought a item for a char that has no access to trade and abused it to greif newbs who said anything about highroller??
rogue is not playable i guess, maybe its time to stop the way u guys dev the class and go back to a more spacing class
what yall think of ambush proccing out of smokescreen instead of invis then reverting hide to pre patch
i love when boomers get mad over words, like bro just try not getting mad at literally anything lmaooooo
What? I had 4 good games in a row on my rogue before wipe
FFS dude boomers are in their 80's and only know about the internet from the news they aint on the internet.
Yeah at that point youāre waving a flag in Carnegie Hall. I still keep a couple blue survival bows in the stash for a rainy day but Iām gonna be reaching for that crossy whenever I see the bois in red clanking around like they own the dungeon.
Saying cope is more efficient why say 3 words when you can sum them up with 1? Itās called becoming more advanced you should know this boomer
āDeal with itā is the literal definition of cope, which is like, just a word. Itās a very weird take lmfao
Not every figure of speech needs to be reduced to a lazy optimized state.
Are the renters talking smack about home owning boomers?
āYou guys see jaygriff buy a Fulgore and take it into low level lobbies.. thats cheating ban himāemphasis on ālow level lobbiesā. And if you had a character who had access to trade b4 lvl change happened, you could still access trades. I have a lvl13 wiz that can bc that patch wasnāt retroactive
or more stupid and lazy
i think sdf is taking a nap
Glad to see everyone is as friendly as ever in game chat š„°
Shadow money wizard gang. We love casting spells
You will level up sooner or later? What's your point?
you rn: š“
i love how you guys are pretending mileniels invented the word cope
Obama drone bombs kids
Give him a break dude probably stayed up for 7 hours straight just patching shit so we could get the update lmao
Respect respect. Honestly tho I rarely end up using it, I just strafe with rapier cause of the mad movement speed you can get. I love bard.
you his boy toy? you seem too upset over my comment lol. you cant justify what he did as if he
The word "cope" is for children who like five nights at freddys.
These are patch notes I like to see. Now to find the stinky stick.
Id advice to follow that thread to the start
IT'S TIME FOR LANTERN BARBARIAN META
cope is just short for Copenhagen
nothing new
Excited to see what uses things like monster trophies or silver coins have other than gold in the future
āLazy optimizedā u arenāt making sense there
I like how people have themselves convinced that crippling their ability to communicate effectively is called advancing.
you coping while writing this
ik, i just really dont want to wait until tomorrow
Respect. Iām more of an Arming Sword/ Falchion guy myself. Arming Sword with buckler is goated for fighting Rangers and Falchion is so damn good for breaking boxes and barrels for that lewt š
The Word cope has been used since 14c its not a new word
Hahaha @graceful imp yeah fr. @molten heath use past tense, learn grammEr.
I ran lanterns on bard before the buff now ima be a lantern fiend
Deal with it.
I'd advice that you shouldn't worry about what others do besides cheating. People will go around issues one way or another, but your skills can always improve.
My bad
Hey guys anyone else super excited for wipe?
FFS dude boomers are in their 80's and only know about the internet from the news they aint on the internet. Be original. Stop regurgitating shit you read or heard in an attempt to sound witty.
Yes I am, any further questions?
They nerfed fire ball L Bozo š¤£š¤£
you use the same answer and say be original?
Can you MORONS get out of game discussion
Oh I love arming sword trust. I prefer it actually, but for the move speed build? Gimme a rapier with agility or +3 move speed. Hell gimme a buckler maybe too, and I move faster than I would with an arming sword and can still block stuff, AND get an AR boost.
Anybody with a rare ign that wants to trade? Dm me
doesnt matter, anyways what he was doing was scummy. I enjoyed playing as self found items only I hope they make it into a game mode because these streamers getting free crap and pay to wins ruin the game
Yea, except when I stack 40 will w other modifiers like pen and true, thats not gonna make a difference. Nice try tho ābozoā
Its my original answer used 2x. I reuse my original content regularly.
The lantern change is gonna be good. Also realllllllly like seeing the merchant change. I HOPE they sell rares more often because i have a ton of gold I cant do shit with half the time unless I wanna spend 30 min on trade
anyone got an estimate of how long we got till the servers come up and are available to play?
Isn't fireball back to it's original dmg value?
its not an original answer tho, i've heard atleast 4 boomers say that exact line
mods can u rename this channel ethymology and grammar discussion pls ? there is a bunch of 1st degree people trying to argue
Have they started the patching process yet?
āBe originalā he says as he re uses the same reply again to respond to someone šš and u are acting like a boomer coming at people fore using the word cope. Thatās all we were getting at
can u get out
I just donāt enjoy rapier damage. Even with Rapier Mastery the TTK feels so slow compared to Arming Sword and Falchion. I know itās roughly the same with headshots but I donāt need a perk to make Arming or Falchion good yāknow?
is this a wipe? every yt video says its a wipe but nothing has been said by them if its a wipe
People keep saying āgrammerā and its actually frightening how many people canāt spell the word grammar correctly
They did say there's a wipe.
Its a wipe and update
the best thing about this update is the 500g pouches and 3000g chests
Rapier feels way better on high mobility classes like bard or rogue. That poking playstyle...
Just pointing out the result of compound stupidity. Its not like your 2 stupid parents are goign to have a genius as their offspring.
oh, i thought they were talking about grandma
This may be addressed in all weapons will be rebalanced
Good job bro, i find solitude knowing youāre able to enjoy a game you paid for
There are 0 āboomersā who are 80 years old ACTUALLY š¤
Does your wizard spawn with 40 will straight after the wipe does it?
great for gold buying nerds like me
@thorn quarry sir this guy is being really mean to us zoomers
Yeah now.gold sellers can sell huge volume gold amounts
where? lol read announcement like 5 times
No, I think that's a bad move. Now it'll be even harder to avoid geared people ever running out of gear.
Nope, but its not very hard to get when I can farm players like you and hell for like 3 hours. Lol
Oh itās def lower in damage but thatās why I do the movement speed build with it. Agility for that mad fast action speed and your DPS is on par while allowing you to strafe still. Different playstyles tho yk? I canāt say I donāt love me some arming sword gameplay
3 1/2 hours
Can someone explain the fireball nerf? is it the splash damage because i swear fireball to the face does like 60-70? im so confused ( And High) Someone help
Why anyone would buy gold in a game that is so easy to farm gold on idk...
yeah, only by del chars that hit 15 and remaking them so I can avoid the people that buy gold and dont play legit
im gonna close that shitty debate. im boomer zoomer and cope hard. target me and go next ty
so, you know you can also wear gear too right?
Ohhh now your going for the parent insults thatās pretty original isnāt it? Mr ābe originalā
On blacksmith client also on their website here https://darkanddarker.com/news/5
bro where is my knight in shining armor?! @thorn quarry
I actually dont know how old they are and I dont care.. but I know they are really old and dont use the internet according to Fox news.
I have more money than i can spend, time is more valuable, you have the perspective of a poor man
I still haven't had to use the 50g pouches yet š¦ #newb
I sure hope so. @high jewel I like the playstyle just not the TTK. Granted I was using it back during when Rogues were busted and having the range of an Arming Sword or Falchion just felt better than trying to 1v1 a class in itās natural element (Yeah I play Bard in GC. Bite me)
so why punish good players? Do you realise how annoying it is to have 2-3 characters just for holding gold is?
Yeah fireball can get headshot. Itās direct dmg and splash
sir they are wiping gold, its not a wipe
āStop regurgitating shit you read or heardā according to Fox News LMAO
To the face is a headshot. Headshot multiplier applies. Also the values in patch notes are the base damage, but wizard starts with enough will i believe to have bonus magic damage right away, so it does more than the base damage
And?
nah you just suck at games and need a crutch
What's the difference? It's an inventory wipe just not characters
When is ironmace going to add more genders? Another patch with just male or femaleā¦
hat the hell this ruin boss is
No quests, skill tree, or druid..where's the content in this HUGE content update
You're just broke
riiiiiiight so its basically a miniscule nerf then, basically no change
Roflmao if you buy gold youre a straight up loser ruining the playing field. This has nothing to do with my income...I play for fun not to be a child who needs handicaps paid for so I can get ahead xD good joke tho buddy
what time is the update est
Absolute Chud spotted š
bec someone with a maxed ranger is gonna slap anything and everything.... warlock builds with 4 perks... wizrads..... lol what
A new boss for the ruins map
Why can NONE of you people click the announcements tab?
Hey man those Chinese hackers need to eat and if they donāt get the money from pathetic gold buyers where will they get it?
That's not going to change, it's just going to increase the bloat. And it's not punishment it's a cap to keep the player base from developing a permanently geared elite class that will make things worse for newer players.
Don't you have maxed level characters as well? Not following you here brother. You will have to deal with that sooner or later eitherway.
they arent merging levels? level 15s stay in level 15 lobbies stop spreading misinfo
@hybrid glade did you just saying you buy gold?
says 7:30 but its clearly 8:09 and no patch so
Nerf wizard more
lol
Wizard can now fly.... warlocks have a pet n shiet.... damn..
I have never bought gold
wait are they useing a diffrent timezone in this anouncment
Well the bonus magic damage from will applies as a percentage modifier, so when it applies to a smaller base value, it also increases it relatively less. So it nerfs it early as well as its scaling
We will be doing the Patch #1 update starting at September 26, 2023 7:30 PM.
When the patch starts, you will not be able to login to the game and players in-game will not be able to enter the matchmaking pool during this time.
Players in a match or in-game will have 30 minutes to complete the match and exit safely.
The server will return to full service 4 hours after the patch starts. my god brother...
You catch on Fast.... but still an average bear... you bite every bait i throw out its funny
True
its not miss info lol, my ranger is lvl 12 fighter thats lvl 10, def got a better chance than somone lvl 1 but ight
uh
Warlocks on top
Did I just get called a bear?? š thatās a new one
@barren ingot No i take it back. I can't lie. I buy gold when i play. I have so much money i can just keep buying accounts and gold, you think im scared of a ban?
yeah 1-14 can play together thats not even a wipe thing get real
bro loses the entire convo and starts to say hes baiting, classic L
4 hours for the patch to complete and game to be back up for us. Assuming no delay⦠š
"loses the entire convo" wat
I hope the wep balance is good as wwll :3
You guys are acting like it takes you a whole day to level a character to 15, it takes about 5 hours. Most of you probbaly have maxed level characters already.
an average bear referring to the old saying "smarter than the average bear" ...get it now.. probably not
what time zone are they useing in the anouncement
WHERE IN THAT DOES IT SAY 7:30 EST, it says 7:30, that could be like 8 diff timezones dude holy youre slow
pro tips : go sleep some hours or go outside cause update will take more than 4hours
whats this then?
are you slow? maybe try sounding it out?
ITS CATERED TO YOUR PERSONAL DISCORD TIMEZONE SO WAHTEVER U SEE IT IS LOCAL TO U
let me just spend 5 hours playing.... lol just say u dont work
Any suggestions?
Ohhh the old saying that only boomers know? š yea I donāt get it but itās ok and u were definitely not baiting
what 5 hours is nothing
Warlock has more spells then wizard what a joke
is it though? bc im in goblin rn and its 8:15 no update
take a look at baldurs gate 3
I work 9 hours a day... What a way to put you on the spotlight brother. Hell it takes even less time if you kill often. This is just an avg.
I dunno. 5 hours is a lot of responsibilities being ignored.
i am not even going to humor a reply as you have proven your ability to severely misinterpret a coment.
Male or female thatās all you need. Just pretend to have another gender like in real life.
Non-binary option! I wanna be a pan skelton
thats a job i could be doing on the side making 600$ lol let me spend it by playing a game for almost 1/5th of my day
Or you can just be a skeleton
in 5 hours i can make 1000 euros from my business
I can spend 10 of them euros to get 14k gold and have fun when i play
Several means 3 or more. typically doesn't mean 50+ but by definition still could. Not sure where you got your English education respectfully
some of these changes are cool and all, but not exactly what was needed. Auick shot itself wasnt the issue its that the long bow itself having too much power
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please upvote
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Thx for fighting off the pesky side characters whilst I fight the main boss boomer
you try to talk like you're intelligent but you're just making yourself look like an idiot lmao
weak
any guesses on what
Manual Dexterity and Persuasion. will do
What's level object density? Just more stuff to hide behind
cap
just bought the game >_<
bad timing
Dude i said "Fox news" that is all the bait i need for bob's like you. Its obvious bait you lemming.
yeaaah makes sense, fireball isnt really the Deciding factor to a fight with a wizard tbh, getting behind and point blanking a magi missle and a few zaps is how to really swing fights
Imagine living in europe. Hopefully Poland Czech Republic or Switzerland
Then just spend $25 and have someone come over and shag your GF for you too 
skill issue
You still have to chose male or female!
welcome to hell, when the update drops you will have fun
Several is somewhere between a few and more than enough.
Nah u were definitely serious when u said it, no back tracking now
I only shag high class european escorts. Girlfriends are for the weak and poor.
so everything should cater to you because you think money is more important than actually having a life to do things you enjoy, ok bud
Do they make balance decisions from statics like pick rate and escape rate?
hey just poppin in when is wipe
The fact they only have to options is so bigoted. They need to get their priorities straight
Lol yea okay. Bro outed himself as a nobody publically. How embarrassing 
what, takes 5 hours to make $600?? why waste all that time when you can make 1k in 1 minute by betting it on RED 
it means 3 or more but less than meny so depending on what your talking about the range of the word "Several" is diferent
they gonna make agility crit so mznual dext is old agility. persuasion is %chance resisting to some spells or idk
Damn bruh me to, you must be carrying the herpes I left over there
I thought several was "around seven"
i left my job and wife to play today and patch is extended sadge
Try harder.... I'll wait. @swift ledge ya gotta come better than that homie
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please upvote
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black character when?
Maybe later
I wonder if slayer fighter can use more than one type of helmet now?!
Africa map
orcs
orcs are in game
you said "it only takes 5 hours to lvl to 15" my response was i could be making money than wasting time, and your response was that i want the game to play around me? yeah games cooked your brain cant even read and make a accurete statement or arugemt back... just words and talk from someone who sits in a dark room all day 120lb soaking wet.... yikes
Uh... you want to kill them? I'm asking since you can't even look at your character model outside of inventory or lobby.
dark and darker, you'll have to look harder to find them
"Summon Hydra" there will be spawning creatures? (warlock spell)
@vivid olive @warped belfry you think black people are orcs? racist
black character too op
they have +15% move speed and jump hight but get 1 tapped buy a ranger with a gun and all npcs target them
who asked
Ok this one wins š š¤£š¤£š¤£
I guess new?
Broke and weak. Probably claim you have depression and ADHD and dont work. WEAK.
you think being an orc is a bad thing? speciesist
lol, wasnt hard to figure out man
damn, that's dirty 
lol they can only play as rogue and have pickpocket default perk equipped and you cant unequip it
i feel like that would be too op. maybe a stat nerf to complement those buffs. like reduced base knowledge or something
Will game be wiped after patch
My dad is black Iām telling him you said this!

proud to work = slave mentality. conclusion= u are broke
Rouge with the perk where u can rob people
only one claiming anything in a public discord is you
tf is the persuasion attribute for
I am the boss. I do not work for someone.
Several never refers to numbers as high as 50. It literally means at least 3 but generally speaking its less than 7-9. Anything above that would be considered and referred to as Many. That is from the perspective of college level profossors and things like the LSAT and other higher education standards since you were curious.
voip rizz
we are going to find out in a few hours maybe bard can romance the mobs
Prolly summoned creature duration and power
Persuading the gear chads not to murder you is my guess
Claims to be more than 12 years old meanwhile has his twitch "MMsalty" and i quote "I HATE SCARY" "A SALT WITH A DEADLY WEAPON"
Naw bro. Hes definitely someone. All high rolling euro gods among men sit around in a video game discord and flex about the life they live 
can we update our games during the 4 hour mantienece period?
I have 20 nine inch schlongs and glistening 8 pack abs, come at me bro
vote this up
no i think orcs are black
All my homies run summoned hydra.
Don't forget to drop a follow little man
is there a wipe with the patch '
post port
STINKY STICK! Hype! So what are the changes to weapon damage gonan be?
max persuasion seduces cave troll and he fights lobby for you
Oh, and whomever I shot in the face with my crossbow right before I died last match, get rekt scrub.
bro can make 1k in 5 hours and 60% of it goes straight to the gubermint
Yeah, they're wiping inventory but not experience
Lol NobodyLoserTTV. Good handle choice
slay king slay!
bros been in the discord in game discussion for 3 1/2 hours, you need a fucking life 60 comments in the last hourā¦. GRASS WAS NICE TODAY BTW
u are ranger player, stop trying to lie to us. we know u are broke and weak. thanks
I hope all weapons and damage got the same treatment as the daggers did.
TTV = TWO TOTAL VIEWERS KEKKEKEKEKEKEKEKKEKEKE
solos do have a very hard time trying to get named items though
Is going to be a wipe when the patch comes out?
nothing you said is true, its ok. Dont be so triggered that you waste your life
And u mustāve been say there reading everyone to know that. Nice self insult š¤
Guy should use some that $1000/day to view bot his channel 
This game needs daily login rewards. After 30 days you get a free legendary.
It's a throwaway, don't stress it
I'd buy guns and ammo lol
Unpopular opinion, they need to add modern equipment to this game. Aka tanks, ak47s, m4s and motor systems
def not lol
hell no, no fomo
def so lol
Thereās a reason that opinion is unpopular
bro says he makes bank yet acts big n tough on a game discord, actual successful people got nothing to prove 
Runescape 3 player
Actual successful people got no time for games either 
Broke people just piss me off
unpopular opinion, this game is the mirror of the society, by all his aspects.
lol
I think he might be stressing tho 
Bro my RS3 account is worth more than your entire stash on all characters combined.
I think this game should have weapon skins.
Ur not wrong infact when I looked out my window this morning I saw a wizard bonking a goblin on the head with a huge stick
that's why the devs said rogue players will understand the early rogue changes š¤
Yo an actual good patch lfg
THIS DUDE SAID RS3 š
Bro i feel that thats why i lurk on a $35 video-game discord where iād never expect broke ppl to even consider revealing their broke-assed-ness to me.
might want to stop smoking the crack brother
vote t rump he will reduce rogue nerfs this was supposedto be a reply but now its out of context
steam wokshop style would be sweet, and also twitch drops
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Whats everyone thoughs on the changes??
Thats how us sorted people get our kicks. made it and nothing else to do. Just watch the brokies try to justify it
can we vote for Ohnom instead??? he will make this game great again 
Methinks there will be a whole lot of warlocks now.
Look at the comment I was replying too? Maybe u stay off the drugs
for a week or two, then itll be diverse again
rangers are policeman, warlock are politicians, barbare are gypsi, cleric are healers, rogue are
any idea when servers will be back?
i mean if ur seeing goblins and wizards it might be acid, my bad dude.
you guys can't be getting trolled this hard
a very specific minority
T . RUMP WILL MAKE ROGUES GREAT AGAIN. CANT BELIEVE HIS NAME IS CENSORED LOL PATHETIC
They are
you posing in front of a 2008 honda thats worth less than 5k LMFAO. keep trolling tho š
Lol facts man. Sometimes i even go to mcdonalds to dine in, or pretend to do my laundry at a laundromat, just for the kicks and giggles of broke people existing in public spaces. 
Lmk if you want to chill on my yacht sometime, if you ever happen to be in the Dubai area.
When wipe?
Ok ur slow nvm
Out of pocket. Flag on the play