game-discussion

[spare elbow]

Ahh yea ty i had no clue lol.

[orchid torrent]

The ranger kinda is exactly that rn LOL

[thorn rune]

Still funny they didn’t say it in announcements like last time though lmao

[drifting hinge]

Please remove cost of HR

[spare elbow]

Yea i mean everyone trying to keep up with new info checks the discord announcement cause everything has always been said first here…. Weird to skip it here this time

[somber oar]

Maybe they need to add MOA to the ranged attaks
With this the rangers will be less strong at large distances making harder to hit headshots

[cursive shuttle]

Barb and fighter are not good examples as both are insanely slow. Wizz has to cast as does warlock. Rogue was so strong with that combo he was 2-3 tapping before you could react.

Seriously man. You gotta watch the videos. Rogue was a freaking menace.

[orchid torrent]

@drifting hinge pls no dude have u seen the gear inflation this patch? People filled their stashes with OP Gear when it was free

[drifting hinge]

Maybe they could remove it 2 days before a wipe

[somber oar]

Moa is used in tarkov, more distance, less accurate will be the shot

[orchid torrent]

@drifting hinge that would be fine, yeah. But they have more important things to consider rn, namely if they reduce purple longbow damage to 19 or 18 damage per Shot

[supple timber]

u would be surprised to how fast barb is with the strenght scream and zap has a 1 sec cast time and weakness like 2 but ye it was a lil broken with the invis dmg

[cursive shuttle]

You're playing rogue wrong then honestly. Your goal in trios is to always hit the backline first. Let the barb rush in, kill the wizard, back out, rinse and repeat.

In solos, none of those guys will catch you pre-nerf because they died too fast lol.

[supple timber]

ok i try to do that and the bard 3 shots me idk if they acctually 3 shot anymore i havent played trios in a weak or 2

[cursive shuttle]

Bard right now is not nearly as bad. We are also talking about a geared rogue when I say this too. As base rogues are freaking terrible. But a geared rogue will legit 2-3 tap a fighter, let a lone anyone else.

[winter plover]

Greed is good

[supple timber]

ONLY IF I WOULD 3 tap a fighter BRO i have a clip of 3 rougues attacking a fighter with BLUE gear Stabiing him 22 TIMES WITH WEAKPOINT ACTIVE AND HIM BARLEY DIEING i think that be4 the resnerf

[somber oar]

Pls fix the warlock perks, only two work, the other are useless

[orchid torrent]

When talking about balance we gotta consider the map. In caves rogue was way too good, but in crypts it was trash before nerf and now it's kinda unplayable in both isn't it? Didnt see many rogues at all after nerf so tough to say. All I can see is that 2v2 map is 80%rangers and crypts is at LEAST 1 ranger on literally every single Team, usually 2 and they're impossible to outplay

[cursive shuttle]

That's 100% false if they had good gear and the right perks dude. I promise you. There are tons of videos from top tier streamers and leaderboards atm.

[supple timber]

lemme find it if i do i willdm it to u

[flint surge]

rogues atm meta is hand crossbow tho, just running and shootin

[spare elbow]

I figured out the best meta. Play a class u like and have fun

[solemn dagger]

Shhh, you'll scare them!!!

[orchid torrent]

@spare elbow if the class you like is ranger, then sure. Otherwise not

[twilit dragon]

And only complain when a class is overturning every other class; what a concept.

[cursive shuttle]

I just can't believe a geared rogue popping out of invis, did not kill a fighter if they had the right perks. I had 350+ armor and got 4 tapped by a rogue with a castillion and a mix of green/blue gear.

[flint surge]

we are here to discuss not play 😛

[nova pilot]

No need to whinge I'm not against you. They've definitely gone very heavy with that nerf hammer. I'd also rather see something more than 1 dimensional play from all classes and have multiple viable builds

[vital jetty]

All blanket nerfs are heavy handed and have all be reverted before tweaking further. ie mage/bard

[supple timber]

it wasnt in invis anyways i cant find it i watch too much yt my history is filled with shlatt and other shitposters cant find the vid

[orchid torrent]

The important decision that they have to make now is to remove ranger class and all crossbows and bows from the game and everyone will play and love the game again

[pure sky]

guess you've never seen how fast and far an english longbow fires an arrow, its even faster than in this game.

[queen vortex]

mexican longbows are faster

[devout yacht]

can't balance the game around actual history

[spare elbow]

Did the English have icebolts too? This is a videogame they need to balance it for fun not realism

[pure sky]

the projectiles are already a bit too slow, you can stand still and go side to side, and chances are the arrow will ghost through the hit box, skilled players know this. its why they rarely get hit

[orchid torrent]

@pure sky good and smart point. So you suggest to just remove longbow, because it would be impossible to make balanced. I like it

[main garden]

You know there’s no crosshair irl, remove it from bows, ngl there’s a bit of sway too irl when using a bow, guess we should add that…

[stoic socket]

is the game wiping soon?

[supple timber]

Bro its a game in wich u fight mithical creatures and use funny spells to kill goblins and undead skeletons u cant expect it to be accurate to irl

[ancient mango]

Nah longbow needs a buff. why should i have to hit someone twice? i should be able to one shot everyone as a ranger

[vital jetty]

Bit more than that pressing the concerns right now. There several streamers who openly team or even exploit. Despite their specific actions being indirectly condemned by IronMace and many other players punished for doing similar. Certain names are untouched within the community because they hold the status of a streamer. How can you take such a company seriously?

[pure sky]

hopefully soon, its pointless to play atm

[icy plume]

what gives the most xp?

[supple timber]

Just open portals kill npc and brake pots

[twin spear]

wipe is tuesday with a big update

[orchid torrent]

@icy plume just Google there is an exp table for all mobs. If the question is to level up your characters then just kill as many mobs and loot chests since pvp doesnt give exp. And make sure to survive, because as far as I know you will lose half of your gained exp if you die

[spare elbow]

Really dont need the crosshair, if you ever used the hunting bow in hunt showdown it uses a “iron sight”(wood sight?) when you ADS. Actually works really well they could easily implement something similar with no crosshair

[supple timber]

That would be a good nerf if done correctly

[pure sky]

I don't but arrow speed is probably 1/4th of what they actually travel lol, so when you shoot a bow in this game it feels like a slow-motion arrow that weights like 5lbs lol. they had to slow the projectiles down anyways id imagine because of the capsule collision, which is notoriously janky, 90% of unreal devs avoid that method.

[orchid torrent]

@icy plume if you can, clear hell, but it can be tricky at first. So as a beginner taking blues is the better choice. Also keep in mind that opening portals gives a lot of exp. If you're safe you can open all the portals you see before taking one. Red portals count too

[cursive shuttle]

Whoever was talking about cleric being balanced. Had a guy with +4 magical damage 3 shot me with his little holy strike lol. Hit him 4 times in the head with a longsword while he was buffed.

BALANCED!

Making me laugh over here lol.

[old bluff]

don't get baited once again by stupid people crying and make the right changes devs

[icy plume]

ah that portal tip is good

[spare elbow]

The MOST xp is going to be going hell, but i wouldnt reccomend that until you are comfortable wiping all the mobs you can encounter in normal dungeons. Your first goal(s) should be learning to be comfortable in crypts, then learning to be comfortable in hell. Then you can worry about powerleveling.

[pure sky]

i also main fighter, and im slow and can dodge arrows from near point blank range, that should give you an idea of just how slow and scuffed the hit boxes are.

[scenic hornet]

U saying rogues were fine or what ? Xd

[supple timber]

Bro i was a all blue Melee warlock with phantomize and the dmg perk and i had a 48 dmg longsword and i got 3 shot by a green morningstar idk how thats fair

[pure sky]

If its not center mass it WILL fly through the side of someone if they are moving around. i think any ranger could tell ya that even though someone is in the same spot but they are fidgeting half the arrows will miss even though you physically watch the arrow travel through them.

[spare elbow]

Honestly the way the arrows fire feels ultra janky too. When you shoot it doesn’t feel smooth coming out of the bow which really makes it hard to aim properly too.

[scenic hornet]

Blue and green doesnt mean shit if stats are bad tbh also warlock is pretty bad right now

[eager trout]

what would be the best class to learn the game itself on? mostly playing solo rn so

[icy plume]

thx for the responses, I have actually played since the playtests but im leveling a ranger now since i think i want to play it after the inventory wipe.
hell still seems risky tho for grey gear

[devout yacht]

most people buy 50g blues for the damage, not the stats

[barren ingot]

Bro you are wearing cloth. You take a lot more damage compared to a cleric in plate

[supple timber]

I had phy dmg strenght agi and mag power i think and the cleric didnt have plate

[spare elbow]

If you are familiar with cheesing difficult hell mobs, all you need is a cleric or fighter with a round shield or bigger and you can avoid taking damage entirely. Especially given you are ranger — i think its smarter to risk hell in low gear before your team hits 15 because you rarely see a geared team follow you down

[scenic hornet]

I mean the dmg diff aint that big to make a huge diff in a 1v1

[orchid torrent]

@cursive shuttle Dont wanna be that guy, but skill issue. Cleric has like no range. If you let cleric close the gap to you as warlock without using your curse of pain to poke first and/or fight vs active buffs thats on you. You know what actually would be OP? Imagine you're geared and get oneshot by a white longbow

[pure sky]

yeah lol it releases very very slow, unlike something thats spring loaded with 250lbs+ of pressure. and the tiny colision capsule on the arrow tip is bad for online games. They'd be better off using a sprite and the niagara system to detect if its touched a character mesh, which is purely mathematical and 100X faster and easier for online games. Relying on capsule for projectiles is just bad practice.

[icy plume]

sound, however I am a solo ranger, is it still worth going into crypt?

[supple timber]

Oh yes keep the range and get judgemented and holystruk

[orchid torrent]

The best way to level up and make money is solo crypts for sure. Just gotta avoid all players. Buy some longbows for 8g and go naked except longbows. Clear a few rooms, loot everything and hope to get a portal before players find you

[devout yacht]

movement is reduced by like 60% when casting. Take the 15 dmg attack and push him. Then dodge the vertical strikes with movement

[spare elbow]

Oh youre solo? In that case if youre going goblins just make sure you extract as much as possible, i would say.

[pure sky]

I work in the engine everyday, though as a professional it doesnt matter for who etc, im here to take peoples loot lol. So i know what im talking about in regards to projectiles and server authentication. i can see the problems clear as day.

[icy plume]

aight thx

[supple timber]

Bro im a heavy warlock with barley any agi i tried it 1 time i think he just tanked me insted and i still died prob a skill issue but that armor pen is bonkers

[orchid torrent]

@icy plume if you like to fight people tho, play goblin caves. There you can practise PvP. If you play correctly you should never lose a duel because to your fortune your class is way too broken. Just dont melee and let your opponents starve to arrow poke. A few well placed traps will help too

[devout yacht]

have you tried longsword? Cleric's are the easiest to learn how to parry. Warlocks are OP because they get spells, longsword and an instant spell hit with BoC

Pop Boc > Parry > instant death

[spare elbow]

I actually really appreciate that you could provide some insight as to why the arrows feel so janky to shoot. Because i could feel it but obviously have no understanding of why it feels so awful.

[supple timber]

Idk how to parry bro im a rougue main im used to shanking ppl like im in britain

[uneven jacinth]

You got out skilled, you have the range advantage and mobility advantage, not to mention the cleric weapons are the easiest to long sword parry. Nothing to say but get good.

[spare elbow]

Last game i played with bows was hunt showdown and they shoot smooth as butter, so it feels really bad to shoot arrows in this game coming from that one… i hope they rework it to smooth it out

[devout yacht]

it's a whole new game when you run longsword. Grey ones are only 10g from weaponsmith. Give it a go, you might like it

[icy plume]

oh yes that is why im switching to ranger, as much as I have loved barb in the tests because he was broken and I had way more gear, rn it feels like kite central considering I only have 1 other mate to go into crypts with

[twilit dragon]

While I get it, teaming up in solos is just garbage.

[silver escarp]

I'd say fighter, you can use most gear types in the game and the mechanics are simple, slash things with weapons. That being said fighter is very weak without gear so it can be a struggle. Barb is a little more complicated but same basic principles and is prolly another good option

[devout yacht]

Right-click to parry, then once you hear the "chink" sound, right-click, right-click for the 150% dmg follow up attacks

[spare elbow]

“Bro i was playing the most braindead 1 tap build class and i lost. How is that fair!!”

[ivory cedar]

What country are you from?

[orchid torrent]

@icy plume when you're 2 I suggest ruins tho. If you're a good team you can farm the chicken, wraith and skeleton champs for some good loot and also loot the players that you kill. It's a lot of fun, but you gotta get used to the map

[supple timber]

My brother mobility advantage my ass i was on 70 80 % move speed with the longsword and armour @devout yacht dayum bro shits that op if the game doesent say Connection error

[icy plume]

yeah we arent used to the map and we didn't enjoy the rogue infestation but im assuming its better now

[cursive shuttle]

Stop bro. Just stop. We ALL know ranger is OP af. Just get the heck over it and stop complaining. Tuesday will be the fix man.

We get it, you hate rangers. We all do.

I'll also explain this as well, you can gap close all you like, but if you get to an area you cannot gap close or wait for buffs to be removed, you either have to fight or run.

They have plenty of range. And a cleric with a spellbook and high knowledge can halve the casting time and with will, their 15 damage spell increases exponentially.

[silver escarp]

Ruins? Nah, it's worse, ranger infestation now. Stick to crypts and gobbo. Unless you play ranger ofc, then thats the map for you

[supple timber]

U forgot thats Exactly what barb is warlock has 1 shot potential but is a lot squishyer

[orchid torrent]

@icy plume now it's rangers everywhere which isn't as bad when you abuse it yourself. Just be careful around the worm and bridge area, because the player density is very high and you get 3rd partie'd a lot

[pure sky]

The bows are a Skel mesh, unless they are static meshes now using VAT (vertext animated texture which has the animation baked into it, its better for performance). So the wait time is for the animation to finish, The arrow, as far as i can tell is a real object which is both good and bad. but it can just be a sprite or (particle) naigara can handle millions of particles and detect collision for them very cheaply, Ideally from a performance standpoint and reliability with collision when its going to instigate damage, its the most reliable, aside from a sphere trace. (however! if the sphere is tiny as hell, well that wont work reliably).

[supple timber]

Romania bro i never tried to parry lol it seems rlly janky

[spare elbow]

Anyone playing warlock gets no sympathy from me lol. If you landed one parry it wouldve been a near gaurentee kill. He hit you thrice you had 3 easy opportunities to kill him instantly…

[cursive shuttle]

Right lol? I would love clips of them constantly outplaying clerics and seein ghow balanced they are.

[twin spear]

ive played alot of warlock and clerics are probably the easiest to kill out of every other class tbh BoC is too good the way it is and needs to not have headshot multiplier

[cursive shuttle]

Was about to say, that 's because BoC negates most of the healing lol.

[gaunt shell]

Is there a reason the last 7 times we’ve run inferno the boss has been ghost king?

[twin spear]

pure chance

[supple timber]

dosent negate the buffs doe and thats what fs me up anyways gotta go i have a medical problem to attend to

[gaunt shell]

Damn me and my friends wanted to do inferno bosses and ghost king is the only one we aren’t familiar with

[silver dragon]

well come back after they get the remote out of there

[twin spear]

ghost king is probably the easiest one

[gaunt shell]

We’ve just never done it before so we try and avoid it

[ancient mango]

lich is the easiest one by far

[orchid torrent]

Do we have any info about the upcoming ranger nerfs yet?

[twin spear]

we dont know if their will be nerfs but no all info will be with the update on tuesday

[orchid torrent]

@twin spear aight ty

[astral mirage]

Anyone see the game "Greed is Good" on steam for free? Literally complete ripoff of dark and darker, map is even copied lmao

[twin spear]

just people trying to capitalize off of dark and darkers popularity

[lyric gate]

Not sure of this is the place to ask about this so apologies if it's not! I just got the game, hit update in the blacksmith launcher and now it says...(17179869183.99 GB and has been sitting at 0%. Is there a solution? I know the launcher is new and is having problems but man I really wanna play

[tidal pilot]

with WHAT

[hoary rock]

any idea when the wipe is

[twin spear]

tuesday its been announced

[spiral dune]

26.9 stash wipe only character progression will stay

[lofty ruin]

WEAK POINT AND RUPTURE OR ARCHILES SHOULD NOT LAST FOREVER THEY SHOULD HAVE A DURATION LIKE ANY OTHER SKILL. ALSO THEY SHOULD NOT APPLY TO TORCHES OR ANY OTHER WEAPONE BESIDE THROWABLES---- FIX THAT!

[queen vortex]

lmao still crying oof

[twin spear]

2 things the cooldown only starts after its used plus they have a glowing effect giving away the position of someone in the dark secondly if you use a torch to attack then you have a problem

[lofty ruin]

you use the torch with archiles because is faster and further than the axe.

[twin spear]

torch is dumb just use fists

[devout yacht]

i get you, don't get baited by this guy. Throwing a torch at someone to trigger their poison/achillies is dumb af no doubt

[lofty ruin]

anyway they should have a duration like the warlock blow of corruption! i dont know what devs are thinking with this. ones get the skill durations and others dont? what is this preference

[twin spear]

blow of corruption has a shorter cooldown rupture weakpoint and achilles have long cooldowns pretty sure thats the deciding factor plus why complain about skills that got nerfed like weakpoint and achilles, rupture is balanced the way it is

[hoary cedar]

I like the idea of damage being a serious punishment in the game, but its kinda unbalanced and mainly affects the lower end players who cant afford to have 10+ healing items in their inventory.

[feral shell]

aye im ngl rangers should not be able to use arrow abilities while having 0 arrows out it just makes them too anoying to play around

[lofty ruin]

they should have a counterplay not last for ever. like barbs running across the whole dungeon with the skill activated make no sense

[twin spear]

i dont get how it matters the could run across the dungeon then activate it anyway so what your saying means nothing

[umbral pendant]

Rupture only has like a 15-20 sec cd

[drifting hinge]

It's annoying to have 3 rouges team up in goblin

[queen vortex]

nerf rogues more!!! buff ranger!

[weak umbra]

cant wait for 15 ranger nerfs on tuesday

[umbral pendant]

It’s crazy to me that rupture has a 15-20 sec cd and does 20 dmg but cut throat has a minute cooldown for being a situational skill

[lofty ruin]

it matters because you active it to early leads to situations were you can run. wait. or dodge like any other skill. you need to time your skill like any other class

[queen vortex]

They are not nerfing rangers.... They are making arrows smaller so we can carry more loot and making bread regen.

[regal dock]

yk what makes me grumpy? a 15g trade fee. the gold goes to nothing its such a waste 😦

[sand zenith]

Nice to see another game dev informing people on inner workings! Unrelated but nanite is an amazing system and most people have no clue what it even is.

[twin spear]

i never understood why everyone says bread its clearly jerky

[feral shell]

nah they gonna let you carry 30 arrows then give more healing options outside of ration they already said they want ranger to have more nature healing spells

[queen vortex]

no its stale bread.... dont be ridiculous man.

[twin spear]

everything points to it being some delicious beef jerky maybe they could get a jack links sponsor

[queen vortex]

plz stop trolling, ill report you my guy.

[lucid quartz]

I could be wrong, or just terrible at the game, but goblin caves and blue teleports are a bit too RNG. How can i be the last person alive, in the last circle but still die because a portal spawned on a different floor. its really annoying.

[twin spear]

i need to make a bug report that the field ration tooltip doesnt specify that its jerky

[queen vortex]

i cry

[lofty ruin]

that guy peridios loves to disagree with every comment here. just look at this past replies

[twin spear]

this is just a part of the caves there are to start off 4 blue portals everytime just try to be top floor at all times if you can since its easier to go down than it is to go up plus there is always the staircase at middle right room that opens as second to last circle so 5 exits total

[queen vortex]

you're a ranger.

[lucid quartz]

Yeah. I guess i just have to be less greedy and always be looking for portals. Just ending a round with 2 kills and never seeing a portal is frustrating. and it seems to be the only map with that issue

[twin spear]

just the nature of multiple floors the other maps dont really have that so thats why but you can escape 9/10 times if you just focus on staying top floor

[lofty ruin]

wrong

[arctic cove]

How the heck are servers still so bad in this game

[twin spear]

might depend on what servers your on but in my personal experience on US EAST i rarely ever run into any lag and if i do its very small spikes at the start of a match

[gritty flume]

Two holy strikes and a judgement from base cleric out right killed me as plate fighter? I know plate lowers mr but that is insane

[mighty haven]

What are the ranger nerfs coming up that I keep hearing about?

[cursive shuttle]

Yeah, cleric is pretty ridiculous at the moment lol. If you can catch them without buffs, it's not as bad. But they are still super strong.

[twin spear]

there are no confirmed nerfs any changes will be in the patch on tuesday and according to ironmace its a ton of balance changes that will apply to almost every class and item in the game (my guess is we see some nerfs to longbow for sure)

[devout yacht]

stop crying for nerfs please

[twin spear]

longbow needs a nerf and thats coming from someone who has played ranger the second most im not crying for nerfs i think ranger as a class is fine but the longbow is too strong

[devout yacht]

longbows should 1 shot, field rations should full heal

[weak umbra]

3 ammo for longbow, increase draw time

[empty sun]

We are taking away his fingers

No I don't think specifics of the changes have come out yet

[static cipher]

torch is a throwable

[fathom schooner]

did they additionally mention if the triumph level is getting wiped? I would guess not, but being close to the next one it would be cool to know if i have to grind it out before tuesday XD

[pulsar pebble]

arrows definitely a physical item, you can tell when your trying to shoot through bars/gates/door windows. also entirely possible to shoot between a skeletons rib cage KEKW

[thorny siren]

blow of corruption is crazy atm

[supple timber]

`u are a rougue main arent u

[lofty ruin]

you know what a i mean. do not apply to torch or candle

[empty sun]

I'm old and passive, I'm a cleric lol

[pulsar pebble]

theres 0 chance rangers dont get nerfed into the dirt on tuesday. lol. even if just to appease the anti-ranger elements of the fandom haha

[empty sun]

Pocket healer, pocket healer, oh my team's died, shield up, back away swinging

[supple timber]

`well i guess i was mislead by the name

[empty sun]

Makes sense

I'd have assumed the same

I prefer a little bit of magic and a little bit of bonk

[supple timber]

u dont have the delayed chat timer thats cheating xd i cant use gifs man this some bs

[empty sun]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-neil-primrose-still-waiting-im-still-waiting-waiting-gif-27380282

[pulsar pebble]

i can live with the delayed chat. what drives me nuts is the random censorship. i can tell someone to f themselves, not blocked. but then a random, less filthy word blocks the entire msg

[empty sun]

What's the timer on right now I can't see on mobile

[arctic cove]

Theres a reason this discord is way less active these days

[weak umbra]

1 min

[dawn brook]

Holy they essentially deleted rogue from the game…. Wtf

[earnest current]

Can dev do something to Full purple gear and legendary gear fighter in normal goblin cave , just want to enjoys and try some new thing and meet full over 9000 gear in the dungeon delete all players

[cursive shuttle]

I think the true nerf, should be to mobs. Stop letting them attack us through walls! If we cannot swing through walls and other objects, neither should they! Nerf the MOBS!

[pulsar pebble]

because the nexon trolls decided to go back to playing maplestory. KEKW

[empty sun]

First tip is dont break rules, second tip is let us know if we miss something so you dont feel singled out

[queen vortex]

nerf barrels! rogues cant compete against them.

[weak umbra]

yes, you can just Play 1-14 que

[lofty ruin]

haha just avoid that troll im sure u faster with all his plates

[pulsar pebble]

lol fair enough. appreciate that. i try to play nice, but the wierd single off blocks drive me nuts 😄

[empty sun]

Oh in that case you will all live

[earnest current]

no all the lobby try but all die because he got legendary crossbow and legendary viking sword

[empty sun]

Find the inner calm, mine is a twix

[pulsar pebble]

its like 3 days until wipe, people are going to roll the best gear they have because it'll be gone in a few days. im just using this period to get better with the pve patterns. Ive decided i want to be a PVE attack dodging god. so ive been ducking swings and stuff all week lol

[supple timber]

i cant even eat a twix

[earnest current]

why they not doing HR and try to torture normal dungeon

[empty sun]

I'm sorry what? I've never heard anyone tell me they CANT eat th most delicious chocolate snack known to man

[lofty ruin]

dude i have deal with this types of cowards before just avoid them. or make them loose time so they have to take the portal before the end

[pulsar pebble]

because HR doesnt pay off rn. only crpyt on the hell floor is worth while, and farming good gear doesnt matter because its gone tuesday. people just want to enjoy smashing skulls until everyones back on equal foot. it sucks man, but its not a DD specific issue, all wiping games have this period right before a wipe 🙂

[supple timber]

if i do red droplets will flow from my rear end after i take a number 2

[burnt wasp]

What is with the german Language in this game? do u guys have any information?

[sharp obsidian]

where do i use old rusty key?

[empty sun]

That is unfortunate I'm sorry to hear that, I hope you find something as wonderful that doesnt do that

[pulsar pebble]

what i do when i run into a giga chad in GC is just run all over the map pulling as much PVE as i can and try to dump aggro on them. LOL. Even the most chadly of players can die to getting stuck in a corner by a bunch of gobbos. haha

[supple timber]

english porridge is a option

[earnest current]

you can dodge a few time but not all day , im playing like 12 hours on my day off but meet them like 70% all game i play so painfull to lose a full gear

[tranquil perch]

Sooooo... I've tried to play wizard today. And I have a question. How are you even supposed to play on something, that dies from something looking in his general direction? And I understand, that he is supposed to be the ranged combat specialist, but isn't it obvious he needs some REAL weapon to help him in PvE, and not that staff??? Why warlocks are running around, doing the same magic shalabaloo, but actually HAVING something to deal with PvE without wasting slots? Like WTF? How are wizards so weak?!!

[queen vortex]

magic missle

[empty sapphire]

Wizard is far from weak, you just suck

[lofty ruin]

try another server east va is full of tryhards and streamers.

[empty sun]

Oh no, you poor human that is the height of suffering, it's fine on occasion with long breaks though

[burnt wasp]

pve magic missile but, pssst🤫

[pulsar pebble]

wizards are a team class right now. going solo is rough, especially when learning the class and undergeared. lock is definitely an easier class to solo with. if you really want to do wiz, get a dagger for your 2nd slot and use it to help kill pve that you cant cast on

[earnest current]

still same they just want full gear all over the sever and torture grey or green gear , if Devs can do something to block those full purple and legendary gear

[tranquil perch]

I am suck, I just tried that class literally TODAY, forehead. And I am not talking about wizard that is geared, that has his book, sword and whatever. I am talking about default wizard.

[supple timber]

i gotta eat it every day with a side o kia or chia seed in water

[shadow patrol]

Considering people often say things like “if you nerf gear or if you implement gbmm then gear won’t matter”, my guess is that many people with gear subconsciously see it’s purpose is to be used against people who have worse gear than you
Can’t exactly say it’s wrong ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[empty sapphire]

There is tons of videos on youtube of naked wizards going in and clearing entire lobbies, just sounds like a skill issue bud

[astral cargo]

they bringing back rusty key room next wipe?

[earnest current]

i see fighter full gear with crossbow , Bar with over 200hp , ranger with wtf legendary bows and Bard god of buff

[pulsar pebble]

what a bad take lol. the guy said he just started playing it today. telling him its a skill issue achieves what? lol

[tranquil perch]

Alright. You are muted. You don't expect anything smart from the person that hurls "skill issue" at the first opportunity. Especially at people who literally ask HOW TO PLAY. Piss off, jerk.

[empty sun]

I guess alteast you get Kia... yey?

[empty sapphire]

mad cus bad

[earnest current]

ignore that guy

[empty sun]

Let's keep it civil

[supple timber]

no its disgusting seeds with water they contain a ton of fiber doe

[tranquil perch]

Yo, missile is good, sure, but it has only like 5 casts and then what? Sitting like a duck? Or your only opportunity to have some spells without clarity is meditation? I just started playing with quick cast.

[supple timber]

and it is all bcs i ate tacobell a lil too many times

[empty sun]

I thought eating Cheerios every day was a dark period, you have my sympathy

[empty sun]

Never ate taco bell

[steady valve]

Quick cast seems kind of like a waste to me. It’s basically the same effect as casting from around a corner. Except now you regen spells 5x slower

[burnt wasp]

there are ways to do not sit down like a duck, maybe both spell memory? and while resting u can regenerate spells, without meditation, has pros and conts

[pulsar pebble]

Yea so when i learned wizard i ran meditation. then zap, haste, fireball, magic missile and ignite. used MM on most PVE, meditated after every 2nd or 3rd pve pull. then when i didnt have room to magic missile id ignite the staff to make melee better. you use haste to get you out of danger, fireball when there is room. zap when you need fast damage on a target and you dont have time to cast.

[neon summit]

Meditation feels pretty manditory without some other plan for how to get spells back. For PvE i usually bait an attack and wind up a magic missile and let it rip. I only move at the last second to dodge and i usually kill whatever i'm missiling in one cast as long as i aim for head.

[supple timber]

neighter did i i ate home mate spices and sauces rlly hot 1ns

[storm slate]

I think the devs could be getting way more feedback on gear/geared PVP if people didn't lose their gear when attempting it. I'm specifically talking about in a practice/duel arena environment.

[pulsar pebble]

important thing is to survive a raid or two and make some gold. buy the grey spellbooks from vendor for like 9g. your cast time will be cut in half, makes life alot easier lol

[queen vortex]

it takes like 30 secs to meditate and get your mm back cmon now.

[tranquil perch]

So it is the meditation. Damn. I really hoped I can do without it... Is ignite is even good though? It is like 5 magic damage and 1 point DOT, no?

[steady valve]

I’d only take ignite if you have a dagger tbh otherwise invis is prob more useful, or another dmg ability like chain lightning

[empty sun]

I fried hot chilli peppers once and just breathing it in alone I'm sure did myself some damage lol

[pulsar pebble]

ignite is normally only for "melee wizards" but it can help while your learning the class. id replace it with chain lightning once you got the hang of it. You can only skip meditation if you have a bard in your group and running clarity potions. its definitely better with a dagger or crystal sword. but it can be a good set of training wheels to get your survival chances up

[neon summit]

5 magic damage base and 1 point DoT BEFORE scaling on will, + additional magic damage etc.

[steady valve]

If you have a spell book, invis will save your life and it’s pretty important to learn how to use it properly so I’d recommend trying out invis a bit

[supple timber]

thats the kinda hot sauce my mom would make me she would start tearing by just smelling it

[errant knot]

Gotta love pre planned teamers in GB ruins the game

[pulsar pebble]

i agree but newbies often panic and forget to use haste and invis. lol. 😄

[steady valve]

Yeah that’s true lol. But they regen super quick compared to most spells so if you do learn to use them they can be super helpful esp escaping sticky situations

[subtle heart]

if you guys dont get rid of the crouch jump im gonna lose it, what a stupid and janky way people are able to just kite you. REMOVE IT

[tranquil perch]

I've managed to KO myself with the chain lightning, so it is not for me for sure. Am too stoopid to use it, lol.

@steady valve I've tried invis. It is... Weird... It definitely has some positioning potential, but I feel like it is a waste of slot without something fast to cast it with.

[pulsar pebble]

hahaha yea. my learning curve for wizard was getting each spell slot memmorized and learning how to speed swap while hearing the sound of feet catching up to me. real trial by fire for the first few dozen raids @tranquil perch yea 95% of wizards run spellbook. less magic power but its like 50% faster casting speed.

[steady valve]

Invis is a hit or miss. It’s very good with a melee team comp where you haste/invis your melee in to suddenly appear behind the enemy team. But it’s really useful when being chased too, but yeah there are a lot of good spells so it’s really just up to what you like tbh. You can make most things work

[pulsar pebble]

invis can also drop PVE aggro off you, and cause the enemies to attack whoever is chasing you. can be really greasy lol. chain lightning is strong but you need to practice with it. sometimes ill charge chain lightning in goblin caves and voip and tell people im packing chain lightning, dont you dare open that door, and itll scare them off

[twin mist]

Your supposed to use potions pretty,sure

[tranquil perch]

Will try to run meditation next time. That quick cast was a waste after all. I've figured it out on my own arse being kicked, but if someone with more experience also says it is a waste - then it is a waste.

[pulsar pebble]

just know the first like 5 hours playing wizard are the worst. it'll get better. warlocks definitely an easier class to get off the ground as a caster though its not fully implimented into the game yet

[steady valve]

It’s not a total waste; but yeah like the guy just said you kind of need a stack of clarity pots to run anything but meditation effectively. Unless you’re running around meleeing all the pve. Or you could group with a bard and ask if they can use the clarity song for you

[warped belfry]

Twix is pretty OP

[tranquil perch]

Warlocks are broken, man... I just feel we all lucky people sleep on the Blow of Corruption + Phantomize combo. I remember clearly the horror of me getting one-shot by that. Dude just used the BoC, then ghost at me at MK5 speed without me even having a chance at doing anything (I was playing fighter) and then just hit me once with the halberd. GRAY halberd to take like 95% of my HP.

[pulsar pebble]

I hate the halberd/BoC combo haha. Definitely needs some tuning lol

[subtle heart]

ANY LATENCY ?

[steady valve]

I think I rather those warlocks over the ones that stack move speed, magic healing and magic damage then just kite you around with curse of pain

[scenic hornet]

Warlock are shit tbh but they do counter and melt fighters

[subtle heart]

Yio somebody have latency or its just me ?

[tranquil perch]

Well, considering I usually play clerics or fighters (can't wait for paladin class, lol), I hate those bastards with all the remains of my blackened soul. I am either kited to oblivion with their DoTs or just one-shot with BoC. That skill needs to be toned down ASAP.

[scenic hornet]

Paladin class... aka the cleric xD ???

[tranquil perch]

EU Central. Sometimes game really lags BAD. I am literally teleported back, under the hit of the enemy at least twice a day.

[empty sun]

This guy gets it

[subtle heart]

im NA EST and;... no lie... its every game.. just open a door.. with the rogue... take me 5 sec...

[tranquil perch]

Nope. Clerics are clerics. And I need a paladin. It is a mix of fighter and cleric. Not as smart as actual priests, but definitely are better at expressing themselves trough the blood of their enemies painted on the wall with weapon.

[supple timber]

i cant get it 😭

[rapid turtle]

New patch notes:

• The rogue is now a Ranger Hunting Trap

[scenic hornet]

So just a cleric with a new perk or spell ?

[empty sun]

I'm sorry

[lone ether]

if evil lol

[twin pier]

lol every one cry cuz i just killed everyone in gc on a warlock xD

[tranquil perch]

Nah, not like that. If they will continue to take the inspiration from Dungeons and Dragons system, then it will be a fighter, that is able to cast some limited amount of spells from the cleric list and using smite. So like, not as spell based as clerics are and not as equipment based as fighters are. Like imagine the cleric with sprint, few low level spells, but able to actually proficiently using shields and other weapons but maces.

[subtle heart]

that is very anoyong man... the lantency.... i uninstall reinstall... change graph shite.. still the latency poping off...

[plain marsh]

double warlock slaps

[lone ether]

paladins usually only use plate and have alot to do with undead and stuff so maybe alot of what cleric is now will be split into paladin and cleric would turn into a mass healer or buffer and paladin would be like a tank with some heals or buffs

[olive escarp]

I messed up early game and now my level 17 character can't do anything because everyone is fully kitted, this feels awful

[subtle heart]

this game... cant have this kind of lag... it unplayable..

[plain marsh]

you need to make a new character. it's not an easy game unfortunately so you will probably have to do this several times while learning

@main raven double warlock slaps

[main raven]

I like how every class that can't use a Crossbow just sucks

[olive escarp]

Yeah I'm learning that the hard way, it's unbelievable that you can't load into a gear limited gc

[plain marsh]

you basically are loading into a gear limited GC when you ar eunder 15

[olive escarp]

well yeah, but I'm saying it's crazy that it isn't an opt into thing.

[subtle heart]

i dont understand why they are nt trying to fix it....

[tranquil perch]

Well, considering it is a way new lobby system works, you have three options: 1 - to have a bank and gear yourself up before level 15. 2 - fail in point 1 and try to earn success as living target practice. 3 - to delete the character and start again to have a chance at point 1.

[main raven]

@plain marsh Warlock sucks unless you ditch spells

[plain marsh]

it is an opt into thing. if they made it the way you were describing, no-lifes would just be able to farm up their own kits that were 100x better than yours and it would be even worse

think about it. once you hit level 15 your character resets and you lose your gear essentially, if your intent is to say in the <15 lobbies. if it was opt into, you'd have more experienced players just farming hell for far better gear than what you're running into now

[twin pier]

u kill geared players and put there stuff on then u have gear its quite simple

[plain marsh]

phantomize sucks you cannot exit out of it and you're still slow. people who go meleelock d ont know how to play the class. except the ones that do it for fun. nobod ygood at warlock actually thinks its better

[lone ether]

cant u phantomize through ranger traps?

[olive escarp]

Yeah and that just doesn't feel like good game design.

it's not that I don't want the current lobby system, it's a good system but there should be a gear limited gc so that you can farm up again if you messed up early game and still separate both groups

[subtle heart]

i guess i have to stop this trash game

[daring arch]

Hi guys may i know how much knowledge it need to make 100% cast spell?

[plain marsh]

i know it feels bad but the game is early access, and it is MUCH MUCH better than just about any alternative. once they fix the gear diff tthere may be better options

[scenic hornet]

I hope they add 20 classes before adding paladin then...

[twin pier]

lol no it dose not the top players dont use boc js u just need to get good at the class and use ur brain when ur playing to outsmart ppl

[plain marsh]

top players currently spec into agility and kite peopel with spellbook, and when someone closes the gap they whip out a weapon and boc. i will simply just hit a curse of pain on someone using phantomize and they take insane damage

[twin pier]

no they just smack them the top player dosent use boc at all he uses phantom and spellbook and falchon

[plain marsh]

is he soloing crypts or something?

[twin pier]

if u get trap u use phantom also stops all ranged attacks from hitting use its really strong u just need to not die

[plain marsh]

right now that might actually be a good play with the state of ranger. i thought you were suggesting running no spellbook meleelock, which is bad

phantomize/spellbook is totally viable

[static cipher]

fighter longsword is so good bro 👌

[remote light]

these separate queues really have some downsides im hoping the balance changes next week will make them worth it

[daring arch]

Hi guys may i know how much knowledge it need to make 100% cast spell?

[twin pier]

skills have diminishing returns look at the wiki

[spare elbow]

looks like 20 for flat casting speed, and 100 knowledge for 100% bonus speed -- 100% bonus (aka double)...((its right on the wiki))

[main raven]

You do NOT need 100 Knowledge for 100% cast speed

57 Knowledge would put you at 101% Spell Casting Speed. Sage would make that easier to hit with about 51-52 Knowledge

[spare elbow]

oh my bad i read it wrong... u right

[twin pier]

what if hes a warlock lol but i just wipe gc on a warlock

[main raven]

If you're a Warlock you're just gonna die from every class that isn't a Rogue

[daring arch]

51-52...yoh that's quite difficult to reach

[empty sigil]

Longbow aim should start to sway if you hold it for to long.

[spare elbow]

i mean if you want to straight DOUBLE your cast speed thats pretty reasonable lol. all stats give diminishing returns after higher values

[subtle heart]

thats a really good idea

[main raven]

Sage, Quick Chant and gear with %Spell Cast speed actually makes that easier to hit than you might think. A Bard spamming Allegro adds 18% Spell Casting Speed just by itself

[twin pier]

imagines the hellfires with 100

[spare elbow]

Even with 3 all stats and 3 knowedge rolls on all gear a warlock couldnt hit 100

[main raven]

It's probably possible. I don't think it would be worth doing though

[tranquil perch]

I have better. Here: https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/493924/melee-and-ranged-battle-system-improvement

[twin pier]

silance i will now get 100cast speed and fire hellfire at the speed of sound though the dungen

[steady valve]

Now watch me hit your toes while you try to parry me

[left plinth]

this would actually be a nice way of making the other bows more viable, the lighter the bow the longer the hold so likea survival bow would be infinately longer holding aim than a longbow

[static cipher]

i parry my toes no worry they are well covered

[umbral mantle]

I think the map should indicate when you see the last tiny circle if the portal location will be above or below you or on the same floor.

[spare elbow]

Lol i love afk parriers thinking ill actually just swing into their held parry

[steady valve]

For real lol. I will swing into their parry sometimes for a headshot, if I have enough room I just back up and they miss anyway lmao

[twin pier]

go to the top floor then u dont have this issue bc u can drop down floors easier

[spare elbow]

“Take tha high ground”

[umbral mantle]

I find most parriers can't parry, begin the attack high but go low right before the attack frames come out, or vice versa, and they always fail the parry.

[spare elbow]

Yea having chivalry experience helps a lot w fighting longsword parriers

[twin pier]

play mordhau or chiv

[umbral mantle]

That's usually the case, but not always so. There are a few rooms where you have a lot of travel to get to the other floor.

[twin pier]

u also need to learn the map bc u will need to run into the zone 50% of the time

[umbral mantle]

I guess the actual problem is I had a few games where I wandered a bit to make sure I was the only one there and couldn't find another person, and when you're camping on the top floor and they end up on the bottom, sometimes they can open the portal before you get to it.

[empty sigil]

I dunno, I just feel like a good ranger can push tight corner that a melee class is right around way to easy. He gets one shot then kites you back. Either need to nerf the slow or nerf his ability to walk around corners aiming

[umbral mantle]

I've been screwed 3 games by there being a second person that was either invis, stealthed, or hanging out in the swarm before the portal spawns, only to have not enough time to get to the portal because it was on their floor.

[twin pier]

yea u can just get really unlucky but the portals tend to spawn generally in the same places being alot of places tho

[ripe axle]

Ive been hearing bards with custom songs, how does one do that?

[umbral mantle]

Voip

[ripe axle]

They arent playing it through mic though?

[umbral mantle]

Definitely are

[devout yacht]

voip is mic

[thorn anchor]

voice over internet protocol (VOIP)

[ripe axle]

The songs i hear them playing are like the flute doing chrono trigger songs or i heard a lute do the default dance song. VoiP is capable of that?

[dry lantern]

Bro they made norms high roller am I the only one who thinks this?

[umbral mantle]

I've heard some bards play instrumental music similar to the music in game. When I've heard it is really clear too. They can play any song they want through the mic and bards are going for instrumental songs to make it sound bardish.

[plain marsh]

idk if you've been watching any of the streamers that play high roller but... it's all nakeds

[spare elbow]

They have a soundboard with tracks bound to it and they set their settings to play that audio they their voip… unless theyve somehow modified the game files which would get them banned pretty fast

[glad ingot]

my friend just got the game, what's the best comp for duos

[ripe axle]

People are so creative damn

[dry lantern]

Bro bc all the juice people are goin norms

[olive escarp]

why the f is it when I block sometimes it'll just throw out an attack and not stop till I push the attack button

just lost a stacked run because of it

[spare elbow]

Cause they dont want to actually risk gear! Otherwise they cant say “geared” or “juiced” when lfg

[plain marsh]

150g entry fee at work

@spare elbow at 150g for an entry fee it's hard to make a decent profit. killing other players for their gear is just superior

[wanton sky]

Does anyone have a way to fix the dam buffering I couldn’t even move when I loaded in the game

[wintry sun]

It's going to take 1-2 weeks to see the full effects of their HR changes. Most are still used to how it used to be and need time to transition and see what the risk level is with 1 third less people.

[glad ingot]

Is warlock/ranger a good duo?

[umbral mantle]

Honestly I stopped watching the streamers for a while because the high-roller lobbies are so boring, there isn't a good fight. It was really exciting the 3-ish days leaderboards began, didn't last long.

Recently I watched repose playing normals and ironically it was actually good to watch.

[plain marsh]

you simply dont make good money in high roller relative to the risk. normals is just more profitable. it's not about 'risking gear'. anybody halfway decent can easily get mildly lucky in hell and walk out with some weapons/gear

[subtle heart]

Does anyone know if they still have 2 lobby after the wipe?

[wintry sun]

Yeah, I actually haven't played HR since the changes, but I'm guessing 150 is hard to make back if you're feeling like you can't fully loot rooms.

But you need to make much more than 150g, since you're risking a set in the meantime, probably worth 1-2k

[spare elbow]

HR loot is wayy better but there isnt much reason to farm loot when you can farm money to buy ideal loot, and farm gear off players in normal

[spare elbow]

If gold wasnt currently the main way to acquire ideal kits, spending gold on HR to get great gear you need for kits would be more viable.

[umbral mantle]

HR collector items are better too, so farming money is arguably better in HR. You frequently see the streamers coming out with 300-450 gold worth of collector items in HR which is higher than a full inventory outside HR typically gives.

[olive escarp]

why the f is it when I block sometimes it'll just throw out an attack and not stop till I push the attack button

[wintry sun]

This is an interesting point. Maybe make epic, legendary and unique untradable?

That way finding epic+ is actually exciting and requires you to boss as an objective.

[plain marsh]

hr hell loot is way better. but hr loot isnt really 'that' fantastic

@olive escarp skill issue. jk happens to me too

[umbral mantle]

I've had this bug too while playing wizard, go to cast a spell and instead I'm stuck in this attacking animation. It made me think my mouse was dying for a while. Just a bug they need to fix unfortunately 😐

[tidal coral]

Although rogue was a pretty strong character AT FIRST these past few patch notes have completely wiped him of the game and he is no longer playable.In whag form do you think having to stab someone 20 times is okay to get a kill it’s almost impossible to use unless using pre nerf weapons for damage since all base weapons are basically shit

[spare elbow]

Yea only happen to me once so far in EA. Pretty rare bug unless some specific thing triggers it

[wintry sun]

You go rapier + handbow + rupture + smokebomb/cut-throat. Still pretty dang good in GC. Poison and rupture apply to your crossbow shot, then come in with the rapier poke to finish or all-in.

Build + magic dmg and +pys.

Also can apply cuthroat with torch, I've killed every wiz by throwing torch to silence them, then running them down.

[spare elbow]

Rouge just need rapier and to actually use some skill now instead of it being basically free kills if you caught someone off guard from invis

[umbral mantle]

Ironically I got to happen to me something like 5 times in an hour, which is why I thought my mouse was dying. Really is a rare bug but somehow it can sometimes be common?

I think there might be some specific trigger.

[spare elbow]

If that is so, i would bet there is some trigger, or something like once it starts it keeps happening for awhile. Something like that

[thin fulcrum]

I heard there’s a discord for trades? Sitting hours in trade channel trying to put together a set is annoying. Whole system needs a revamp.

[blissful oxide]

What is the problem with the trade system ?

[spare elbow]

i think its mainly for high level players trading huge stuff for keys

[subtle heart]

Rogues are very shit against heavy armor with lower tiered loot now but higher tiered loot they are alright. Definitely feel like if you’re not running a specific build heavy armor will be damn near impossible to kill tho.

[thin fulcrum]

It should allow for wtb posts and better time respecting trades. Like I said sitting there for hours putting together a set while competing with resellers/ flippers and fast finger clickers just to lose the set in one game to a naked counter class

[spare elbow]

You can get a pretty good set in minutes if youre not being too picky. If you want a perf set youll have to take time.

[drifting hinge]

Where to I report a player?

[thin fulcrum]

In game press r when spectating them

[empty sun]

#1056520745330675763 or what sin said

[drifting hinge]

OK, they already left game

[spare elbow]

Usually when im shopping for gear i am looking for X but id be happy to buy Y instead if i see something pop for a good price. Like yeah id rather have str but 2 agi and armor pen is a pretty great roll too ill just take that. Ya kno?

[mental veldt]

Every move speed nerf on any class is a buff for the ranger

[sharp wren]

quick question for spell capacity calculation:
there are 2 diffrent kind of bonus stats that increase the value (flat and percent)
How is the math working?

Lets imagine our spell capacity is 10 and ive got 2 bonus capacity flat and 10% in percentage bonus

Is it:
10 + (10 * 10%) + 2 = 13
or
12 + (12 * 10%) = 13.2

sadly i dont have the items to figure it out..

[deep niche]

LOWER THE PRICES OF HIGH ROLLER. NORMAL LVL 15+ GAMES ARE UNPLAYABLE

[supple timber]

I have no clue my guy

[barren ingot]

Spell capacity is a useless stat

[spare elbow]

Normally flat applies before %, you can probably find the calculation on the WIKI. I would assume it was the latter example though

[subtle heart]

Ye worst patch yet

[bleak schooner]

the past 2 patches have been disastrous. Lobbies never get full or very rarelly, u always have to wait the 3 mins to starts a match. Rogue got totally nuked, so now you barely see anyone playing it. The +15 and -14 lobbies are now a hunting ground for all the hypr geared players.

[spare elbow]

Really cause 2 spell cap is all you need for holy strike on basic cleric . Finding a 2 spell cap or 2 know item quickly is huge on basic cleric

[sharp wren]

@barren ingot spell capacity is just an example, there are other stats that exist both in % and flat, i need the calculations for my project

@spare elbow i checked the wiki, sadly they only show the part where the base is coming from (knowledge stat), but not how the bonuses are applied

[bleak schooner]

i will probably stop playing this game if the next patch is not good enough

[spare elbow]

If i were you i would infer any % bonuses are applied at the end, after other flat point or stat bonuses

[sharp wren]

aight, thank you 👍, ill start with that and maybe staff can give me the confirmation on that

[deep niche]

LVL 15+ GAMES MAKE PURPLE GEAR LOOK LIKE COMMON GEAR

[ocean herald]

How much does troll pelt sell for

[unreal edge]

New balance update: Rangers hands have been crushed by the hydraulic press

[frank delta]

Honest Question - Does Magic Missile get fully blocked by shields? I'm trying to figure out how to kill these full plate wearing warriors They just soak everything up everything and keep coming.

[barren ingot]

Yes it does

[frank delta]

I've dropped 5 fireballs, 3 magic missiles, and 4 zaps on a warrior and he just popped second wind and walked through it all. Now, yes I was not fully kitted because I'm poor and suck, but damn.
Thank you @barren ingot

[drifting hinge]

This level 15 thing might not be best for everyone lol, after level 15 I feel I just entered HR so now I just delete my chars

[frank delta]

Agreed, I think I just suck 15+ because I get railed. I do fine <15

[shell dove]

i think alot of people have been remaking their character when they hit 15 so your not alone on that one lol

[drifting hinge]

Thank god I am not alone haha

[stark shard]

yall are smurfing, huh

[tranquil perch]

Did you look at his equipment? As my personal experience of getting roasted on a slow burn inside my armor dictates, I'd say it is something out of usual for fighter to soak that much magic damage...

[modern breach]

Does just opening portals get you xp? my friend just opened literally 6 down portals and 3 escape portals trying to get to lvl15. did that do anythign?

[stark shard]

It is literally impossible for a fighter to soak that much damage unless the entire kit was will/magic resist. Probably a bunch of those just missed or were blocked

[spare elbow]

Did he shield or dodge most of your hits? No way a fighter survives that

[devout yacht]

don't think so, only killing mobs and recently opening chests and actually escaping gives xp i believe

[broken forum]

what does perfect block on fighter even do

[frank delta]

He didn't EAT the fireballs point blank or to the face, they were AOE hits as he dodged the shots, but took the area damage. He did eat the magic missiles and very likely the zaps. Without a damage counter log there's no way I can tell exactly what hit and didn't.

[stark shard]

wastes a skill slot

[subtle heart]

Zaps can be blocked

[frank delta]

So MM and Zaps can be fully blocked with a shield? didn't realize that. Thought something would get through. Thank you.

[hard thicket]

maybe kite them...

[stark shard]

Yup! Almost all spells can be blocked, fireball is your best bet. Or just go invis and reposition

[spare elbow]

Fireball is the only thing that would still hurt them thru sheild

[subtle heart]

Lightning strike, chain lightning are the only unblocksble ones as far as I know

[brazen grail]

Chain lightning is unblockable? That surprises me.

[frank delta]

I'd hope chain lightning wasn't blockable, it's such a dangerous spell to cast

[subtle heart]

It goes through everyone, maybe if you’re the first person it targets?

[spare elbow]

It should do bonus dmg when it chains off a buckler. Like a lightning rod

[subtle heart]

There needs to be more specific based resist like magic fire or lightning. Lightning in a full plate fighter should do extra damage change my mind.

[tranquil perch]

Nothing. Fighter's skills are so stupidly broken, in a bad sense, that literally nothing aside of sprint and second wind is even worth mentioning. Shield slam was a good idea, but his hitbox is trash, can miss even if you standing nose to nose, and not even to mention how swinging shield in front of you doesn't make him block anything on his way. And anything else is just... BAD.

[spare elbow]

I usually yell at my team to stay back if ima chain

[brazen grail]

I don't run Chain Lightning because it's too dangerous with friends. And myself. I know it can be crazy good against teams in certain situations, but it feels too niche.

[stark shard]

I call out spells like an anime character and that usually prevents my team from walking into the fireballs

[spare elbow]

I only run it if we are undergeared. Its a game changer on a juiced team

[sharp osprey]

Wizard is already the class the removes the most agency from the enemy player, no. At least ranger has travel time and doesn't have an AOE on his ranged shit.

[eager lily]

does rusty key still open the door

[tranquil perch]

I've roasted myself with it once. Not sure if I want to use it anymore...

[frank delta]

I only play Solo, so I woldn't know about team tactics.

[spare leaf]

add hand crossbow to merchant loot

[still apex]

Nah nah, add lockpicks to em

[spare elbow]

Ah chain would almost never make sense in GC. Definetly not over other options for the spell cap cost

[steady valve]

Chain lightning in crypts is the funnest ability in the game

[main raven]

Chain's great in GC. Third-party some nerd by Chaining the mob he's currently fighting for a free ~50 damage.

There's also generally a lot of dead stuff on the floor that works as lightning rods

[stark shard]

you can cast Chain Lightning on a corpse, player or mob, and it will chain to anything nearby

[spare elbow]

Huh yeah good point.

[frank delta]

That's crazy....gonna try it out on GC.

[main raven]

Also, because Chain Lightning is hitscan, there's some real merit in just using it as a direct damage spell. Zap is also hitscan but has far less range

[steady valve]

Guys do you know is there a limit to chain lightning? Like if you had a row of dead mobs stretched across the whole map would it just chain lightning through the whole map or does it cap?

[tranquil perch]

Wait. Can't you block zap with shield? Is it possible to block it with CLightning as well?

@steady valve 3 targets.

[main raven]

Pretty sure Chain bounces three times (so it can damage four times)

@tranquil perch Pretty much every spell is blockable, but hitting someone in the arm or leg with Zap/Chain/Strike does full damage.

You don't even need to aim at the target to land Lightning Strike.

[frank delta]

I really think Zap can be blocked, but maybe the burn passes on?

[obsidian nimbus]

If there isn't a solid 25-40% damage nerf across the board for wizards soon i'm actually going to quit

[modern breach]

someone just got killed by a wizard..

[arctic cove]

Anyone else lagging like crazy on US east?

[clear meteor]

Remove ranger

[lime scarab]

getting hit interrupts casting

[obsidian nimbus]

1 fireball = dead what the fuck is that

[eager spire]

you must be a rogue

[frank delta]

If they made Zap unblockable and MM blockable but still take reduced damage on shields, I think that'd be a fair change

[brazen grail]

Wait until you see what Ranger can do.

[crystal onyx]

can someone help teach me cleric like what spells and shi

[frank delta]

Honestly man just take the cheap ones, Healing, buff damage, buff stats, shield, and there's one attack spell I like. Smite or something? You just act as a melee character, heal when you need post combat, but save the buffs until you're going to fight someone. I highly recommend shield first no matter what combat pvp scenario.

[teal jolt]

im selling a marauder +3 all

[limber badge]

Might as well just use it becuase it's gone in 3 days lol

[teal jolt]

i dont use the classes

[bitter linden]

If solo/pvp you really want enough spell cap to get Holy strike, besides that bless and protect yourself before fights. Bring lesser heal always of course, if with a party bring the bigger heal

[azure blade]

best class to solo crypts in starter gear?

[arctic cove]

Idk if its just me but US east servers are jittery af

[tacit basin]

IronMace could you pls zone off areas rogues are not suppose to be. Having a rogue standing through the ceiling at the top of the map where only his feet hittable is BS

[novel mesa]

how much does a golden key sell for?

[narrow idol]

Why are golden keys to cheap now? is it because of wipe

[earnest bone]

why are so many people teaming up in solo goblin caves HR?

[spare elbow]

More than likely if they suddenly dropped in price

[narrow idol]

I bought 3 for 1K gold because i needed stash space. And before they sold for like 1.2k each

[spare elbow]

Damn, now go use them

[narrow idol]

I dont know what you do with them lol, The friend i got the game with is busy with school so im just playing goblin caves by myself

[spare elbow]

Oh you go into HR trio map and there is a gold pile in one of the rooms that is unlocked with the key — youll get a bunch of green/blue/purple collectables and sometimes some good gear too

[earnest bone]

where do keys even drop from? hell bosses?

[narrow idol]

ty for the intel i doubt i'll be able to do that solo, But i never use anything either so prob just gonna give it to some poor fella

[compact mantle]

Ya know, as insane as this community is, gotta say. Still millions of times better than the Tarkov community.

[compact mantle]

Also 100% this is the way. Holy Strike is basically a weaker judgement. Pair it with Judgement and you can nuke a lot of classes. Though the will changes made this a little bit weaker.

[azure blade]

best build for a lv15 ranger in starter gear?

[compact mantle]

Triple shot and get a longbow. That's literally all you need.

[narrow idol]

Tarkov is to filled with desync and cheaters. I love the game but its 90% frustration. Always get to like level 30 then im so mentally drained and quit the wipe for like 4 months

[compact mantle]

True. Honestly though it's own community is a blackhole. They're so adamnt on not making changes to keep things 'hardcore'.

[spare elbow]

Which is sad bc the game has so many really fun aspects but getting absolutely shit on by chads if you dont rat for 25 minutes a match just gets old

[compact mantle]

Eeeeyup. God help you if you join the wipe even a week late.

[plain otter]

Yeah better that people just complain to nerf everything and remove gear and any kind of gameplay that doesnt involve gray kit w keying

[narrow idol]

Yeah the game is literally just a manifestation of frustration, Also it doesnt run well at all

[wintry sun]

Longbow (blue is really when you start coming online)

Skills: Tripple shot, 2nd skill is preference but generally buscuits if you're a noobie and tend to get hit alot or don't have a pharmacy.

Otherwise, go penetrating shot if facing a lot of plate, bow draw speed buff (50% draw speed for 8 seconds.), or multishot (my preference if you don't have a spear. Can also be used for reloading.)

Perks: Drawspeed, reload speed, bow +5% phys power.

Other choices: spear (if you have one), trap speed (for GC/solo or trap/bunker playstyle), 15% headshot dmg (mainly good for PvE, rarely comes into play in PvP).

Walkspeed while drawn (Gives just a bit more kite ability, but not much, others are more worthwhile)

[compact mantle]

Doesn't run well and is insanely grindy.

[smoky tendon]

I think insanely grindey is putting tarkov level system lightly

[compact mantle]

Correct, it's basically a second job that takes more hours than your current 9-5.

[smoky tendon]

Mine is currently a 10-8 but yeah 😔

[scenic hornet]

Nerf rangers ❤️

[narrow idol]

Yeah i like grindy games though, But to repeat the same task over and over because i get killed by a fly hacker or server freezes is just too much

[timid shell]

Nerf rangers

[arctic cove]

Devs why tf does my character randomly start blocking when I'm not even right clicking

[main raven]

I noticed this

[timid shell]

Is one of the CEOs a ranger main?

[bold badger]

Greed is good actually good with better QoL than DND

[hallow violet]

it looks dogsh*t

[proper spindle]

Then join their discord

[scenic hornet]

I think so too !

[raw basin]

Does anybody have a name on the unique ring?

[spare elbow]

Imo the combat is severely lacking comparatively. Not worth my time, personally.

[smoky tendon]

Poopy ring

[spare elbow]

The one ring. You can mind control any player wearing a ring

[supple timber]

`whats greed

[delicate solar]

GiG is too alike with D&D for it to be a coincidence. Too many same things. Weapon attack patterns, most skills, core mechanics, too many stuff is absolutely the same as D&D which leaves no real room to chance, especially that relates to the stuff that was in D&D from the start. And any person thinking they just casually made the game in that time to playtest in that visual state probably has not seen the P3 project footage with the same sterile-anime looks GiG has and D&D has not, ofc because IM left all visuals to Nexon so they won't get sued right away. GiG is visually not bad, but some game mechanics are so bad that it's almost like someone was left with all the visuals and design documents, but no understanding of the key mechanics of the game. ESPECIALLY sound. The game tries to cheaply hide the ripoff thinking that if you name a rondel "Rapier dagger" that's gonna somehow make it not a rondel. They could change the starting weapon, but no, they kept rondel model cause it's easier and just renamed it to something that doesn't exist, apparently taking their audience for a complete idiots.

[spare elbow]

To put it simply, a copy cat of this is all it is so far. With some prettier looking user interface. But the combat doesnt feel nearly as good

[raw ore]

What game are you talking about

[peak crypt]

Greed is Good

[limber verge]

why are you advertising another game in here. massively cringe.

[delicate solar]

It's name is in both the question I'm answering and the answer itself ). Greed is Good, D&D leftovers slapped together by Nexon after seeing D&D success and failing to sue or DDoS them.

[raw ore]

My brother in Christ wait until yall hear about project crawl lol chinese bootlegs are pouring out and the people in their discords are literally high on guac guac they are in complete denial its a ripoff

[native pine]

ty @limpid merlin

[limpid merlin]

alt and drag. 10 at a time max. anytime

[potent marlin]

anyone else switch from rogue to wizard after the nerfs?

[supple timber]

its not only greed is it whats the full naame

[ebon willow]

zone closes way too fast

[raw basin]

excited for this tuesday for them to remove the ranger class

[supple timber]

only if

[potent marlin]

we can only dream

[delicate solar]

I heard about it. Just watched teasers, well, at least that not looks like P3 project, yep it looks like D&D, but has some authenticity to it. But can't be sure without playing, it's GiG playtest that got me absolutely sure I play with Nexon kid.

[analog furnace]

hey guys I had a question does anyone else play this game in stretch rez, I find when I play in 1440x1080 it stretches the game out, but when it comes to looting a dead player I can’t see all of the items. like basically the hud dosent fit the screen like it should with most games you can run stretched in. anyone know any solutions to this issue or any advice to get around it

[kind halo]

Just died to buff ball barb ;-;, tuesday please

[snow magnet]

i tried fighter,warlock,ranger now after rogue nerf
and they all seem very strong
especially warlock with blow of corruption
its beyond op
one tapping everyone with long sword

but somehow ppl dont cry about it(not many play warlock)

[ebon willow]

its not that good

[raw ore]

Play at 1920x1080p

[raw basin]

how are they even going to nerf rangers? no physical damage bonus from strength?? nerfing bows so bad that it takes 10 arrows+ to kill anybody wearing plate armor?

[broken forum]

no it is its completely broken and its going to get gutted next update

[vast cedar]

crybaby discussion channel

[supple timber]

bro the inventory looks like a mobile game and its also coming out on tuesday

[unborn kelp]

Really the best nerf would be to remove the hit slow from arrows

[analog furnace]

yeah i know that, that’s an option as well, but my pc dosent preform that well

[lunar sand]

take away trip shot with a long bow would be a great nerf to ranger

[mint oasis]

also remove slow

[lunar sand]

nah slow is good but actullay make it work with leg shots only

[arctic cove]

US east servers are dying and rubber banding like crazy

[raw ore]

Also take the bow away and replace it with a water gun and make a desert dungeon with no water

[mint oasis]

i want bigger BR mode map!

[empty sigil]

Yes, if I'm a barb in a hallway and a ranger is 10m away with no trap, I should be able to just charge him. But no, slow arrow, kite, slow kite, triple shot dead

[unborn kelp]

That would be nice. A giant map with a 30 min timer and like 24 players

[supple timber]

``that would be aids

[empty sigil]

Or make bows aim get Shakey of they hold

[mint oasis]

that would be AWESOME and u cant go in with itesm..just like normal br u find all items in game and ofc when you "win" you get to keep them

[raw ore]

Know your place rangers are literally supposed to lockdown corridors you can always find a new route a melee in a hallway should get dusted by a ranger they shouldn’t need traps to survive every fight

[unborn kelp]

Idk about that part. Once they add gearscore to lobbies you wouldn't need a separate map for that

[potent marlin]

rangers arrows should have dmg fall off for long distance shots. very bs to take the same amount of damage as if I were standing right infront of them.

[empty sigil]

Ken, I'm talking to ranger is not at end of corridor, I'm talking right at a turn in one

[ebon willow]

10m is not at a turn into one

[raw ore]

They should add sweet spots instead of that closer less damage mid range most damage long range least damage

[empty sigil]

Well I dunno distance well, I just think a good ranger is also impossible to push and that makes sense, but if I get up close it should be over and it's just not. Slow,kite,slow,kite

[pliant iris]

so when in the ranger going to be nerfed also?

[eternal compass]

Ez dont play in stretch rez cause the game prolly looks like trash in stretch rez like any other game thats in stretch rez. Man trying to think he gets an advantage using stretch rez like this was old dead by daylight....smh

[ebon willow]

speaking as somebody whos been trying ranger recently, if you miss a single shot with longbow you are dead, if you miss with recurve, it doesnt matter cuz you do trash dmg anyway

[empty sigil]

Or just give bows a winddown where you are stuck in spot after firing for .25 seconds

[eager spire]

why do the rogues cry so hard every time they get nerfed? Sorry iron mace finally beat their favorite baby child

[supple timber]

caz the class is worthless now

[potent marlin]

they didnt just beat them, they tied them up and put em down outback

[eager spire]

even wiz didn't cry this hard when it was gutted

[pliant iris]

who

[supple timber]

wizz is still viable rougue aint

[wild jay]

Wiz wasn't gutted like this rogue is still decent but rn wiz is better rogue which is weird

[frail widget]

Bards in the chat 🙂

[raw ore]

It’s because now rogues have to play the game we have been playing for ages and they suck

[eager spire]

the wiz gut got rolled back but when they got scaling cut by half they were unplayable

[ebon willow]

average rogue player is just a pvp junky looking to shit on people, tbag after one hitting them, and throw their blue gear on the ground to troll

[vast dust]

anyone know if rustykey loot room is gone

[wild jay]

Yeah

[supple timber]

that got reversed rlly quick

[eager spire]

cause it made clerics and wiz actually unplayable. The fact that the rogue nerfs haven't been rolled back yet ust shows that rogue may ust be really near to where iron mace wants em

[supple timber]

they said they were redoing the changes on tuesday no ?\

i heard some1 say that idk if its tru but they will prob reverse a lot of it

[eager spire]

Not redoing them; "Please note that the update will also introduce sweeping balance changes that will affect almost every class, weapon, and item in the game." Just more balance changes

can't send the screencap for the update announcement but you can view it thru the launcher

[forest bone]

has the next wipe been announce?

[supple timber]

tuesday

[brave storm]

please remove the damn minigame from ranger traps

[dry stump]

chewsday innit

[eager spire]

jsut a gear and gold wipe

[raw basin]

i think you meant to say remove the ranger

[spare elbow]

Its only for disarming before stepped on

[supple timber]

it has been removed

[dry stump]

what? the update happened a few days ago with another planned for Tuesday. it makes no sense to roll them back in between the nerf and the Tuesday update. if we see any reverts it'll be Tuesday

[potent marlin]

yall think they will do anything for warlock any time soon ?

[supple timber]

i want them to add new spells what perks are dead

[eager spire]

in the tuesday path hopefully. I'd like to see them not have 3 dead perks

[spare elbow]

Like fighter has 6 dead skills 💀

[potent marlin]

so basically any perk warlock has that does anything to do with "dark magic" does nothing, right?

[eager spire]

even if the current spells get changed to "dark magic" they suddenly become a class

[spare elbow]

Yea i think warlock only dark magic rn is the reflection

[undone narwhal]

https://medal.tv/games/dark-and-darker/clips/1vnIEP-6REyDvB/d1337Ixvd18M?invite=cr-MSxza2csMjczOTUwMzMs Sub 15 lobbies

[eager spire]

When i say dead perks i mean perks that don't work at all, not perks that are bad

[dry stump]

disgusting

[potent marlin]

id love to see them make dark magic a thing, and have different rolls on armor for magic dmg or dark magic dmg

[hard rock]

What if I don't want the game to wipe :((((((

[split sapphire]

Nerf rogue plz it's broken

[hard rock]

Rogue nerf never

[vapid arch]

if you're dying to post nerf rogue you're probably shit

[compact mantle]

People that do this genuinely need to be dragged from their PC's and rubbed against grass by force. That's some next level pathetic shit.

[spare elbow]

Not a big difference

[split sapphire]

90 hp too much for rogue make them like 30 HP base plz

[hard rock]

You have no proof that I'm shit at the game tbh

[vapid arch]

you're right because i wasn't even replying to your message

[potent marlin]

have the devs said anything about the perk training tab yet?

[eager spire]

forget nerfs, reverrt every class to their most op state and call it good

[supple timber]

bro u could take a nap while they stab u ny the time u wake up u will be 50 hp

[split sapphire]

Go buff ranger like you get insta killed when you walk on the trap, it's boring you have to shoot AT them, and nerf rogue please

[spare elbow]

🤣😂💀

[potent marlin]

no honestly though instead of nerfing every class to the ground and calling it balance

[arctic cove]

Im still killing half the people in gobbo cave lobbies naked with 16dmg castillon

[split sapphire]

Probably NA xd

[spare elbow]

1-14s?

[eager spire]

tbh i'd actually just really like each level to mean something. Rn it's really just 3 really big levels

[arctic cove]

Both I think >15 is actually easier cause theres less people trying super hard to escape with what little items they have

Also seen tons of people with full blue/purple sets in <15 lobbies past 2 days I think since wipe was announced people are trading over

[hard rock]

Yeah they are adding transformation masks next update too, that's the whole gimmick of druid

[split sapphire]

Yeah if you have Gear and dont fight the cheaters Ur a pssu

[surreal aspen]

its not like you can find blue/purple items from containers and inferno boss

[hard rock]

Can you kill them or no?

[spare elbow]

[split sapphire]

Rangers xdddd

[obtuse torrent]

what does old rusty key do now??

[rapid arrow]

this community has turned into the tarkov community "i died it must be a hacker because it was the high roller lobby"

[split sapphire]

guys go buff ranger and nerf rogue ur a pssu if you play rogue this class is broken compared to ranger

[hard rock]

Well I don't think they are wrong for saying that

[spare elbow]

[rapid arrow]

u cant strafe the easiest weapon to dodge in the entire game? kek

[split sapphire]

Guys buff ranger wtf, i think you should be able to shoot through walls as well, it's so weak

[rapid arrow]

can u dodge a skeleton archers shots? if so then u have no excuse to die to rangers other than skill issue

[spare elbow]

😂

[split sapphire]

Also let's make the arrows hitmarker, it's almost the same speed as spells

[rapid arrow]

can yall really not just move left and right the keys A and D move u left and right fyi

[spare elbow]

[sterile dust]

how do i make a lfg vc channel

[tropic torrent]

what to do i have no more space in stash for bags

[compact mantle]

Nah. 5 years of tarkov here, this community is way, way more tame and sane than the Tarkov community.

[spare elbow]

With a few of deeze

[rapid arrow]

8 years of tarkov here, no its not lol this community is way more cringe

[tropic torrent]

8 years of tarkov?? sure buddy

[eager spire]

10 years of tarkov here, bragging about takrov playtime is kinda cringe

[spare elbow]

24 years of tarkov here, calling things cringe is cringe.

[split sapphire]

25 years of tarkow here, no it's not lol this community is way more cringe

[compact mantle]

Oof...game's open Alpha was in 2016. Not really 8 years...and uh, doubt you got into closed alpha, lol.

[tropic torrent]

"i was actually friends with nikita he invited me"

[rapid arrow]

makes fun of guy who tried to claim game time.... no one understands sarcasm this is def worse than the tarkov community lmao

[compact mantle]

[spare elbow]

70 years of life here, humanity is fkin cringe.

[gilded minnow]

Anyone else thinks it’s really dumb they aren’t wiping levels this wipe?

[tropic torrent]

there were no signs of sarcasm in your comment bruh

[eager spire]

also doesn't understand sarcasm, cringe is cringe

[ebon willow]

I was fairly certain they are only wiping gear this wipe, due to the dupe glitch they fixed

[rapid arrow]

u might be rtarded lol

[gilded minnow]

They are just wiping gear but not levels. It’s pretty cringe imo they shud just full reset it imo cuz ppl doin HR game 2 guaranteed and the snowballing begins so early

[spare elbow]

I think it makes sense given the level 15 trade level, and they even said they are wiping more than theyd like to because of exploiting and cheating

[tropic torrent]

u def thought nobody would fact check lmao

[split sapphire]

average rogue player is just a pvp junky looking to shit on people, tbag after one hitting them, and throw their blue gear on the ground to troll

[eager spire]

he's a ranger main, it's in his blood. he can't help it

[spare elbow]

Incoming “fact checking is so cringe, lol”

[gilded minnow]

I understand that but it just allows for a snowballing effect to start on like hour 1 of wipe instead of maybe day 2 or late day 1 just kinda kicks the ball in motion sooner for ppl to have billions of keys and shit off rip ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rich kayak]

where do you use old rusty key?

[lean ridge]

There's no real benefit to wiping levels. The really grindy/skilled players will just relevel super fast regardless, and the slower/casual players will just be frustrated.

[distant pivot]

exactly i wanna play hr solo for a month like usual LOL

[ebon willow]

agreed, leveling for normal people takes way longer than tryhards, wiping the normal people is more likely to make them leave the game and just not come back

[spare elbow]

V good point. I good players will powerlevel clearing hell every run anyway

[cinder spire]

Hey everyone. Where do I go to look for group in this discord?

[stark shard]

in the LFG section below

[arctic cove]

That is unironically what I do when I go on my lvl 1 rogue just run straight to pvp lol

[cinder spire]

@stark shard i dont see that. just a bunch of channels with players in it

[distant pivot]

That's the most invalid argument I've ever seen, firstly good players are going to kill you regardless right, however if you wipe levels too it keeps them from insta queing HR after 1 run of Caves because they dont have all perks especially mages and warlocks who are very reliant on multiple perks. So it slows down the time it takes them to go HR (FOR SOLOS) ofcourse teamed good players gonna be going lich immedietly

[tranquil perch]

Yup. I level up super slow. Not that good with game + reality exists. Job. Taxes. Beer.

[spare elbow]

#lfg-northamerica or click the right one for your reigon if not NA

[cinder spire]

thank you

[gilded minnow]

Why is leveling frustratin? It’s part of the game if people are getting frustrated by it then that’s a personal problem imo. Keeping levels every wipe would be stupid what’s the point of having a leveling system at all then

[ebon willow]

agreed, there should be no leveling system

[formal moon]

IDK, lvling is pointless. IDK why they're making such strange \ objectively bad decisions

[subtle heart]

If anyone needs help learning the game, please DM me.

[scenic hornet]

anyone saying rogue nerfs were too hard are dumb af tbh

[hushed otter]

too hard for newbies, not hard enough for juicers imo... but that's more a problem of gear differential and not baseline (and applies to more than just rogue)

flat damage in particular is problematic because by definition it has a much more drastic effect on small fast hits than it does on large slow ones

[manic walrus]

aimbot with projectile speed increase skill will still hit you unless you're max movespeed

[stiff anchor]

DID D&D just server crash?

[gilded minnow]

Rogue nerfs were solid the dagger nerfs tho are a bit much. Ignite wizard and slayer fighter with Castilian are dead now

[limber badge]

I mean, they were pretty hard. We went back to a PT3 issue where default daggers are worse than fists and equivalent to a torch lol.

[stark shard]

I think daggers should get an armor pen buff, maybe 10%, that would make them more worth using with the lower damage

[gilded minnow]

But they proc abilities now torches and fists don’t i will say that.

[subtle heart]

remove crouch jump from the game, its such a dumb janky way to perma kite someone

[arctic cove]

US east servers are literally on fire

[ebon willow]

playing on us east all afternoon no problem

[raw basin]

I literally can't enjoy this game because every 2 matches I run into a ranger that 2-3 shots me on every class

[delicate solar]

Anyone calling everyone dumb without a context is not far away in intelligence himself )). The problem is not that rogue became harder, it's ok for any experienced rogue because we wasn't mindlessly tanking to begin with, we'll just take a different approach. The problem is that in the process some fun game mechanics got downright destroyed. It's never a good thing to have perks that do nothing, making perks that worked into those is even worse. But nothing of that is really relevant until we see the 26th patchnotes, ofc.

[ebon willow]

every two matches? no sir, every match, bring your own ranger to counter. it ends up being a battle of skill between rangers

[rain bay]

@subtle heart love your videos bro lol

[subtle heart]

@rain bay

[scenic hornet]

exactly ! rogues gameplay just isnt fun and would of killed the game def if let loose like it was you can still be killed fast af by a rogue anyway

[snow badger]

I feel like every rogue player switched to ranger. Every single game mode is just ranger spam now. Goblin caves? Rangers. Ruins? Ranger or even double ranger. Crypts? Rangers.

[arctic cove]

Right before wipe the game is super sweaty idk who likes to play right now.

[true mulch]

am I the only one whos block button isn't working in trade chat? this is so annoying I cant mute the gold sellers

[digital sparrow]

Me.

[spare elbow]

Rogue is perfectly balanced now fite me

[midnight mantle]

how to join the trading discord?

[spare elbow]

I heard if they leave the chat then come back in it undoes the block so they probably have that built into the bots to quit and rejoin trade chat

[frank delta]

Can't wait for a wizard rebalance

[ebon willow]

wizards are fine bruh

[trail adder]

cant wait for ranger rebalance3

[twin mist]

Wizard aren't fine tbh, it's not that it's a bad class. But it's easily the weakest class and it takes a lot of skill to use a wizard properly. Especially when a ranger can just two tap you if you even try to cast a spell

[pearl urchin]

"Greed is Good" is good?

[livid onyx]

I hope they add crafting with all the new junk drops in the game in this wipe

[twin mist]

Are.they already wiping?

[pearl urchin]

26 th

[blissful oxide]

nope

[dark sluice]

what's the meta comp currently?

[pearl urchin]

ranger ranger ranger

[twin pier]

fix hit reg on power of sacrifice its so bad its a joke

[prisma cape]

being a puss and using projectiles in general

[dark sluice]

bruh seriously tho, im tryna figure out what class i should play for wipe

[buoyant willow]

Power of sacrifice is easy as hell, Curse of pain is the one that should be harder to hit my guy

[pearl urchin]

im ded ass

[ember aurora]

he's not kidding

[scenic hornet]

Yeah meta sheeps just hoping to the next broken class.. nerf rangers to the ground plz IM

[delicate solar]

Oh, shit. I'm not worrying about Greed is Good beating D&D because it's Nexon, souless corporates not knowing or caring what community wants, but the guys from Project Crawl really seem to know what they are walking into, I'm getting the test key quiz and the quiz question is "In your opinion, what area needs the most improvement in Dark and Darker right now?" )). Cunning people, more dangerous than Nexon for sure.
Well, I guess we are in profit, more lookalikes, more competition, more motivation for IM.

[fluid lion]

Any one want to team up in gc guess it dose not matter anymore as all week camping rouge players as rangers teaming the devs really need to do something be for the game dies because of that

[stark shard]

pre-teaming is an exploit. Just talk to people when you drop solo

[fluid lion]

That what I’m saying that shit will wreck the game

[formal moon]

rogue nerfs were massively over kill

[ebon willow]

no

[fluid lion]

When you read solo what should coke to mind solo it not very fun working 12 hours comeing home to play solo to be teamed by others that have no skill and need to hold hands I’m sorry but I’m no dev but if I had a game and that shit happing it would been stoped as it will bring the game down when most players don’t sit and play247

[formal moon]

when droping your starter weapons and using your fists is better. The dev's have made a mistake. Listening to Gcers for balance is like pouring water through a strainer wondering why you're not full

[stark shard]

I'm really happy that you can talk to other players and not necessarily fight or run from every single one. Makes the game really interesting

[limber verge]

Don't listen to @pearl urchin, he seems bitter. No one knows what will be best to play after the changes on Tuesday. Ignore doomer mindset babies.

[fluid lion]

Don’t no what lobby’s your geting must be nice

[pearl urchin]

wait what i wasnt bitter i was telling the man ranger ranger ranger is cracked ... u must be a ranger

[versed tinsel]

hoomer mindset

[nova harbor]

Terrible

[stark shard]

US West server, you find some chillers here and there

[pearl urchin]

wish dot com verison

[nova harbor]

Literally a Chinese knock off brand that you know will break after a week of use.

[prisma swallow]

over kill on rogue nerf at least give them there baisc 40 sec steath

[empty ledge]

There’s gonna be huge changes to all classes and weapons/items in the game, so currently it’s kinda hard to know what the meta will be when wipe comes around.

[pearl urchin]

the maps seem more spacious tho

[nova harbor]

It's the same rooms and layouts as dad in some areas even copied that haha

[fluid lion]

ok

[ebon willow]

rogues still shit on everybody post-nerf, dont even come at anybody with that shit. they hararss you down with bleed and poison constantly with the only counter being rangers

[limber verge]

What. Barbarians destroy rogues.

[pearl urchin]

Try to be honest here. If you read it on the site end of the second paragraph you'll read as follows. "sweeping balance changes that will effect "ALMOST" every class." Does specifically state ALMOST every.... means ranger most likely wont be touched

[formal moon]

that's why the number one rogue gets dumpstered all stream

[ebon willow]

ahh yes, base the entire experience off a single individual, thats for sure a solid base

[formal moon]

Every rogue that is doing anything close to killing. Has prenerf \ legacy loot. So, the data is just bad. @ebon willow just demonstrates how your point is inaccurate

[scenic hornet]

Lmao not at all

[ebon willow]

"I have this magical information that beats yours so your info is bad"

[formal moon]

some people think numbers are magical

[ebon willow]

so what, do you have like 15 rogue accounts with pre nerf loot to back this up who are just shitting on the <15 lobbys?

[formal moon]

Visual recordings of the number one rogue with prenerf loot getting dunked on. Plus i've seen zero rogues without prenerf loot in any game

[delicate solar]

Well, if someone just pulls them off from their ass without any proof or even logical explanation why he thinks they are accurate then yes.

[formal moon]

I've pointed out just visual measurable data. You do more dmg with your fists rn than a white dagger.

[keen lichen]

I get that rogue needed a nerf. My only issue is I feel like in default gear PVE is rouughhh

[delicate solar]

And you don't even care that it's just plain wrong?

[formal moon]

How is it wrong?

[lucid hollow]

Probably not the only one dealing with this, but why does my game ask me to reinstall everytime i boot the launcher, i mean i have fast internet and it only takes like 2-3 mins but.... it's getting annoying. Whats the deal with that.

[formal moon]

exactly, you and people like you look at data and be like this is wrong. Then have nothing to actually back it up

[ebon willow]

literally just drop your base rondel and use the secondary dagger. you still slap, youre still fast as fuck, and you have skills that bleed half a fighters health after a single hit

[formal moon]

It's still better to use fists lmfao

[ebon lion]

They ruined my meme fist build

Can no longer use poison/rupture fists. A nerf no one asked for

[agile bison]

Anyone else having problems with people with blue/purple gear going into lower level lobbies?

[left matrix]

what warlock perlks do and dont work? i saw on a wiki that some dont work

[plain marsh]

No they found that shit in hell

[delicate solar]

You are fun to talk to )). I just went in game and rechecked on train dummy before proceeding. YOU ARE WRONG. Go check yourself.

[plain marsh]

Use torture mastery, malice, the magic reduction, and pick another one

[timid tiger]

clerics are so weird

[visual dragon]

That is what ive been thinking as of late, pve mobs hit hard but players not as much

[potent marlin]

anything that says "dark magic" does not work

[formal moon]

the third hit does more dmg. all the rest are doing 5 less...

[potent marlin]

whats up with the training dummies on ruins map? they show that im doing much less damage

[delicate solar]

Are you sure you didn't make a mistake when saying "white" dagger?

[hushed siren]

guys, is this game from nexon?

[formal moon]

white rondel and grey daggers

[balmy bay]

how do you counter a cleric i keep getting killed after three prayers from across the map

[gilded minnow]

I think if the dagger nerf wasn’t so hard the rest of the nerfs are pretty fine but you can’t really judge that

[strange olive]

Thems fighting words... no it sure as hell aint

[formal moon]

they literally made epics the same quality as old greys. The dagger nerfs were WILD. a default rogue is better off using fists...

[languid oxide]

My friend told me theres an item wipe on tuesday but I dont see any info in the announcements, is that true?

[gilded minnow]

Did you not read what I said tho? Lol I said the dagger nerf was the hardest. And they are not better using fists weak point. And rupture don’t even proc on fist hits

[formal moon]

I'm literally hitting a target dummy right now, you're wrong mate

[delicate solar]

White rondel checked rn, more than fists anyway. Gray's the same as fists, junk is lower. Anyway you might be wrong about "white" daggers, but you are right in general, that the starting gear does less dmg than fists and that's bonkers.

[gilded minnow]

I literally watched retzi do it yesterday and they don’t proc on players from fist hits. The dagger nerf is what’s needing some tweaking they did too much. The rest is fine though

[formal moon]

I never said it did?

[random echo]

Bro rouge is so bad now

[gilded minnow]

Yes you did you just said you’re doing it on a dummy right now bro are you capable of coherent thought and speech? That is literally what is being spoke. About LMAOO

[formal moon]

you're changing my arguement to suit yours. I did not say rupture proced on fists..everything else i said is corrrect

[half ridge]

wait rupture doesnt proc on fists? i thought it did

[sterile quartz]

Crazy how all my buddy’s and us level 1 running into completely geared players all blue and purps

[gilded minnow]

You said I’m hitting a dummy right now you’re wrong. What the fuck did you mean then

[delicate solar]

He just doesn't look who he answers to ).

[formal moon]

reading has failed you. That starter weapons do less than your fists. Need to go back to school mate

[gilded minnow]

You said they are worse than fists which is wrong. You cannot trigger the abilities with fists which is a major selling point for rogues, thus it is worse. You are fucking brainless get help please for everyone’s sake

[languid oxide]

The starter weapons also attack probably 2-3x the speed of punching tho lol

[gilded minnow]

He won’t respond now cuz he realized he’s braindead and is going to go pout but all good. Anyways rogue nerfs good dagger nerfs bad end of story

[delicate solar]

It's you who should go back, you made a mistake and didn't see it even when pointed at. You said WHITE daggers. I was arguing about WHITE daggers and I am right in that part. About starters you are right, I already admitted that.

[formal moon]

They do. If u have a low base white. it's less than fists

[delicate solar]

You don't make any sense. I JUST TOLD YOU that on dummy GRAY is the same as fists. And you telling white is lower.

[gilded minnow]

My argument plays into that too. Fists do more damage per hit but hit slower and don’t trigger abilities. It is legitimately worse to use fists than daggers for that reason alone

Plus these nerfs were just for now we have no clue what’s changing on Tuesday but they said massive class changes are incoming. It may Al balance out to have a slower paced game as a whole

[topaz wing]

is there anything being done about teaming in the goblin caverns? i was the only person somewhat geared in the pre lobby and i kid you not 5 people appeared mid game and teammed up on me and all looted their share of my body

[formal moon]

slower base while all other DPS roles can still 1 shot amost anyone in good gear

[gilded minnow]

People who speak to one another in game and start to team from that isn’t really bannable. Teaming by sniping lobbies is bannable and they said in the past there working on that

[vagrant path]

Each class should be allowed to take three skills and balanced accordingly

[spare elbow]

😮

[gilded minnow]

That would make the hud messy imo and be a little weird depending on the abilities. Imagine Ranger with pen shot triple shot and ration. Would be insane. Or fighter with victory strike second wind and sprint. Or wizard double spells and meditate

[ebon willow]

how do you report a cheater in a game?

[vagrant path]

That's where balncing would come in. The room for creative play would open up drastically. I want stealth, smokepot and tumble damnit

[spare elbow]

You forgot they said “balance accordingly” but yea a lot of the balance with skills is simply the fact you can only take 2 rn. Everu skill would get nerfed hard

[gilded minnow]

See like I respect that idea but in practice I don’t think it would work out

[vagrant path]

They've probably built too far away from this direction for it to happen, but I think it would be dope

[gilded minnow]

What I would really like is some 3rd ability for all classes that is a single use per game and either cools down with camp fires or not at all. And remove second wind from the regular skills area. Kind of like an ultimate but something more low key

[topaz wing]

i just dont see how nothing can be done about people talking in the pre lobby and teaming up in a solo match. insanity to think that the problem is people trying over and over to snipe a lobby with their friends to team when the actual problem is 5 people seeing a geared guy in their goblin caves lobby and ganging up to get him in a solo!

[vagrant path]

Or the third skill is from a list of abilities all classes can accesses

[tender pivot]

Is there any discussion about Hr Duos or hell portals in duos?

[gilded minnow]

This would be great too tbh. Imagine if every class could have second wind

[vagrant path]

Ok, now I'm asking the bartender to cut you off

[gilded minnow]

Nah but like actually tho some set of abilities all qol based nothing insanely op imo. Just stuff to improve general gameplay

[delicate solar]

Yes.

[formal moon]

HR duos and anything not focused around gameplay \ content \ 3s. is actually been cancer to the game

[tender pivot]

Some people play with only one other friend should we just isolate that part of the community?

[celest harness]

First update in a while that made me wanna play other games.

[limber verge]

quiet down little rogue noob.

[wicked tendon]

What does BIS mean in trade chat (thanks for answer bepism)

[cerulean jungle]

best in slot, so like the best perks/modifers that you can get for a specific class (yup igu)

[celest harness]

If honesty, that isn't even directed at you is that harmful, you're much more delicate than your profile picture suggests

[dark burrow]

What software records dark and darker the best?

[prime flume]

how much are 20 ruby ingots rn gang?

[formal moon]

Yes. Just like they should have isolated the solo only. It's lliterally only been determental to the game

[delicate solar]

Go play GiG. Nothing returns faith in D&D more than a roll in GiG :D.

[pulsar galleon]

GiG is.. a project alright. now that I've had a chance to check it out

[devout yacht]

giant indigenous girls?

[pulsar galleon]

no but I want that now instead

[delicate solar]

😄

[celest harness]

i suddenly want to check out this GiG >.>;;

[vagrant path]

For sure
-Single use per delve ability that works like ranger ration
-Single use ability that lets you regen sitting very fast compared to normal
-Super short stealth that is broken by any light(probably not but I'm brainstorming)
-Quiet step, 10 sec or so or limited/reduced movement volume
-Some form of sprint, not as good as fighters and with a deduff at the end
-ability that works similar to clarity to pot, limited uses
-ability that for a duration allows enhanced hearing. Breaks with any action
-Ability that makes a spitting sound, does nothing but allow you to flex and be toxic

[pulsar galleon]

put me in the amazonian posi- I mean uhh--- I hope D&D adds an Amazonian class with big- uhhh stature

[delicate solar]

Sadly, no )). Greed is Good, D&D leftovers slapped together by Nexon after seeing D&D success and failing to sue or DDoS them.

[noble crypt]

try other characters maybe its pretty fun

[subtle heart]

If you are still using rogue, I definitely recommend using a poison build now since weakpoint is dog. Poison is still alr

[formal moon]

very L suggestion. 8 dmg in 5 swings. pass

[cloud wedge]

trashh boringgg

[gilded minnow]

I respect it yea fair enough. I think single use abilities though need to be off the main slots entirely

[subtle heart]

It's definitely not crazy op, but if you stack armor dmg with poison perk and bleed skill and use a handcross bow and play like a sissy it can work pretty well.

[cloud wedge]

are the highroller maps different than normal maps?

[devout yacht]

ohhh i saw that last week, looks like a janky rip off of DaD and i guess that's the exact intent lmao

the rangers class in that game was kiting a full team around and still getting shots and skills off. That's a big no thanks

[fading drum]

+3 all longsword in warlock keep send offers

[delicate solar]

Yes, it is. Nexon closed their P3 project, which footage with it's sterile anime style is painfully similar to GiG, but when the devs of P3 wasn't happy about that and sailed their own ship sucessfully, Nexon experienced a massive butthurt and popped out this game anyway. But with how cheap and blatant their ripoff is and how little effort they show to make it their own game speaks to how they perceive their audience.

[placid forge]

Gig has some things that dark and darker need lol

[delicate solar]

I'm not worried about GiG beating D&D in the slightest. Not gonna happen. We can get those QoL features in D&D faster that way though ). It's Project Crawl I'm worried about, but I guess we'll see at 26th. 26th Sep is a big day for extraction RPGs )).

[safe locust]

gig beats dnd after last patch, gj ironmace

[nova harbor]

GiG the wish dot com version

[glad nacelle]

My friend sent me screenshots of GiG, they have a perk that is a number for number carbon copy if pre nerf weakpoint attack

[delicate solar]

If the player cannot easily distinguish between GiG and D&D then GiG is probably better for that exact player )). Players will come to them as long as they're free, but that's a corporation we are talking about, it will be that way not for long. IM already came though a lot of things that Nexon didn't even started yet.

[reef tangle]

Good ending

[robust egret]

By the way I wanna say my opinion about DaD after a lot of months i've been playing it. The game is fun, you can adventure with your party in an insane hard dungeon where everybody has his different useful kit, everything is fine. But the game in my personal opinion is way too fast during pvp phase. I mean, people dies too fast or you get killed too fast. Would be fun if fights takes more than 10/15 seconds at much getting pushed by the geared team or the way more experienced team. And I'm not telling you that who's skilled is the problem, I'm telling that to kill a guy you need at least 4 hits as a team with buffs/spells activated. You can say me "BUT IF YOU ARE FULL GEARED YOU WILL NOT DIE IN 4 HITS, YOU'LL NEED 20". Yes, and I agree, but I'll need at least 1 hit to kill everybody else and this not makes fun. Otherwise if I encounter another guy full geared like be, will be exactly the same scenary I mentioned before, FAST FIGHTS. Tell me what you think, game would be way more fun if pvp would be slower 😛

[vague trellis]

Are there any threads someone can link me to about nasty rubber banding and solutions to it? I've always lagged like crazy only in this game and none of my friends do.

[delicate solar]

Just wait two days. The devs mentioned already that TTK indeed was one of their main priorities.

[robust egret]

I'm so happy about that, I didn't know about it

[wicked tendon]

underprepped high roller https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1052833198410833950

[weak umbra]

someone just killed me and my friend with 1 crossbow bolt, is that even possible? or is he cheating

[wicked tendon]

https://discord.com/channels/988365908009447485/1052833198410833950 high roller blues greens or up

[river gate]

had this happen the other day was told windlass crossbows can got through people

[wild jay]

? Poison is over time lol

[weak umbra]

well it was a windlass, ty

[gloomy robin]

how does blocking work? i block and i still get damaged i dont understand?

[median shard]

look up more james

[wild jay]

Blocking is real essentially. If they hit you they hit you. So cover yourself more

[median shard]

Look at a 45 degree angle upwards for blocking. You can also add in Kneeling will looking up at a 45 degree angle and block 90% of attacking including arrows

[stray marlin]

what does GiG stand for?

[tranquil stratus]

greed is good

[ember oak]

ill take things that didn't happen for $2000

[hardy juniper]

oh it's happening

[olive escarp]

no it's definitely happening

[scenic hornet]

seriously all I see is 50% lobbies of rangers lol

[civic goblet]

well , the obvious answer is to nerf rogue

[sonic lagoon]

I think I'm starting to see people discord teaming in lr gc which I didn't think would happen

[flint surge]

whatabout we ban team work in goblins? getting ganked on by 3 ppl alot latley...

[placid forge]

Greed is good(on steam) lol its a drak and darker rip off, it has somethings dnd needs tho

[civic goblet]

and a terrible one at that

[sonic lagoon]

no words but a cleric knew to heal a barb I had fought after they reunited

[median shard]

Project crawl is the one to be worried about, they are actually about to lauch ea

[arctic cove]

Anyone else on us east lagging

[tulip perch]

looks nice

[civic goblet]

worried? hell no im excited about that one. hopefully the devs over at project crawl are not as dim witted as these ones seem to be

[sonic lagoon]

what did these devs do?

[civic goblet]

lol read the patch notes for the last 2 patches

[scenic hornet]

tbh Im just gonna play the game that is the most balanced one xD and prob with an auction house

[placid forge]

yeah if i find a game like this id like it either way lol

[median shard]

I dunno, that project will go through the same amount of balances and updates this one will. Ironmace has gone through hell to lauch this game, these clones companies are just going to end up needing micros to fund the game.

[sonic lagoon]

ah rogue player. They're fine to me

[civic goblet]

<---- rogue main. guilty as charged. terrible decisions. WAY too heavy handed

[median shard]

Im a Rogue main aswell, yea heavy handed nerfs but they will have some updates and changes to rebuild the class. We are in wipe 2 of EA theres much much much more to come for all classes

[civic goblet]

yea maybe

[placid forge]

Project Crawl does look dope tho you cant not like it

[hardy juniper]

I wonder if they will make it so that gear that's been picked up from trade post or been used by a level 15 player can't be used in sub 15 lobbies. they really need that tbh

[median shard]

And honestly I still destroy most people on rogue still with a cut throat build. Cut throat is BLANKET silence, this includes stoppling an delaying 2nd wind / Cleric healing / wizard casting + channeling

[formal moon]

probably not

[civic goblet]

im not gonna uninstall yet. will wait and see. not playing this hot garbage of a patch tho either. terrible timing for them to piss off a large portion of the playerbase right as your major competitor is about to launch

[hardy juniper]

Well, then they will have to find a fix for people just giving level 1 characters full sets of gear. It's happening a lot. I even started doing it cause there's no other counter option

[median shard]

Yeah it was pretty terrible timing to be honest. The player base is going to have the option to play Crawl EA for 3 days right at a huge patch to DaD

[placid forge]

yeah they need to make it at the 24th not the 26th, GiG is open tho lol

[reef tangle]

And the're already playing GiG

[civic goblet]

and the crawl devs can see where these devs made mistakes. hopefully

[median shard]

I would imagine gear requirements will be coming later to prevent level 1's running named items in easy lobbies.

[reef tangle]

Gut rogue -> GiG playtest
Gut everything else - PC playtest

[flint surge]

put a skill level match making

[median shard]

GiG is straight up Nexon running a instant clone to destabalize Ironmace. They tried courts / DDoSing/ now an instant LLC company with no Discord support or mods? Its on steam with no information AT ALL and its their first development. Very SUS

[civic goblet]

its terribad tho

[reef tangle]

Game is fun though, Nexon did a good job

[median shard]

It'll be fun until they hit you with mirco transactions and no support like very triple A developer does

[vague trellis]

Are there any threads someone can link me to about nasty rubber banding and solutions to it? I've always lagged like crazy only in this game and none of my friends do.

[reef tangle]

i'll have fun until it stops being fun, yes

[late willow]

Is there a similar game to DaD out?

[median shard]

Im not saying dont have fun, I mean lets be honest that the point of gaming in the first place. I also have to admit the last 2 patches for me have been a hard oversite, almost more based on what the complainers in the community wanted instead of the heavy grinders who dont really complain. We just play. Why ranger hasnt been nerfed, its the casual mans class.

[placid forge]

Project Crawl, and Greed is good

[scenic hornet]

nerf rangers

[pearl onyx]

nexon will probably charge out the gate, then switch to f2p once sales die down, mtx will be there day one and once those sales die off they will kill the game, its what they do. it will probably be fun while it’s still online though.

[reef tangle]

Greed is Good is having playtests on steam

[sonic lagoon]

what if ranged weapons had a sweetspot damage range, like 10 meters out for full damage, any further and shorter and there's falloff

[civic goblet]

gotta kill the game after the money is made. support COSTS money

[fair marlin]

ruins is 90%

[late willow]

Both are playable right now?

[median shard]

Ranger has needed a nerf from playtest 2

[placid forge]

GIG is but Project Crawl is out at the 26th

[civic goblet]

project crawl on tuesday i think. greed is good is "playable " i guess , but it is straight doo doo

[reef tangle]

only greed. it's super fun, give it a try

[late willow]

Okay Ty

[sonic lagoon]

downloading rn actually

[median shard]

GiG is hot garbage, is being ran on the cheapest server possible to grab the trolls

[spare elbow]

the casuals shifting to GiG

[civic goblet]

yea i tried GiG. really really bad

[scenic hornet]

Ill play the game that rangers are the most trash balance wise lmao

[late willow]

Casuals carry games. Without casuals a game will die

[wispy ridge]

GiG sucks lol

[sonic lagoon]

I'm more curious than casual lol. I'd like to see the competition

[mental veldt]

They should buff Ranger

[spare elbow]

personally it was a big meh to me.

[reef tangle]

i tried GiG, really really fun. The lag is real though, bet they didn't expect THAT many people for it's first playtest ever

[civic goblet]

the obvious answer is to nerf rogue

[scenic hornet]

GiG is such a D&D knockoff thoughh XD

[fringe kraken]

what is pc

[spare elbow]

mobs arent even dangerous and the pvp felt more simple than this

[sonic lagoon]

the "tank" guy is a 1 to 1 copy of fighter so far lolol

[civic goblet]

yep. they all are XD the loot and maps too. just a shittier DnD

[spare elbow]

yeah most of the weapons classes spells etc are exactly the same but combat feels way worse imo. easy pass for now

[sonic lagoon]

the mages are a bit different but everything else is like damn bro

[reef tangle]

Project Crawl

[civic goblet]

^^ thats the one to watch. their devs pretty much have a roadmap of what not to do if they are paying attention.

[arctic cove]

I tried GiG its not bad but I dont think its a competitor, yea definitely watch for PC

[reef tangle]

You can only play "tutorial area" until your account is level 5, after that you can play normal difficulty lobbies and highroller

Also yeah, it's a knock-off. Not that i'm against that though

[median shard]

Its a sister company of Nexon running it

[civic goblet]

but it is a BAD knockoff

[sonic lagoon]

dude the rogue animations for "rapier dagger" and "blade dagger" are the exact fucking same as rondel and castillon

[median shard]

Just purchasable game assets

[civic goblet]

probably betting ironmace doesnt wanna spend their new chunk of cash on a lawsuit

[median shard]

They cant sue anyone over assets even you and I can buy right now on the market. You can literally build this exact game with some experience and $ Thus why these clones are backed by $ that only comes from pre funded studios

[reef tangle]

Yeh

[reef tangle]

Couldn't win one considering they're using bought assets too

[quiet pollen]

My game server is being ddos's... love it here

[cold reef]

Straight fact. The game is dogwater.

[sonic lagoon]

nah rogues can break boxes in this game. its better

[quartz moth]

well if this is how PC gonna look then... D&D got nothing to worry about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8yu7kvCCpU

[sonic lagoon]

it IS interesting that health is tied to your armor base + rarity

[reef tangle]

in GiG?

[sonic lagoon]

yea

[median shard]

project crawl is 100 % a troll. go into their discord chat, theres literal bots hyping the game and trashing DaD

No funded studio would ever make a clone of a game in ea as a serious developer. This shit is so cringe

[atomic phoenix]

Roughly 4000 Gold wizard kit, que for a game with my team, doesnt get put into the lobby. Restart game and client to see if i can connect to the game - gives me no option to. Check inventory = all gear gone, 6 blue clarity pots gone, 8 blue health pots gone, 10 bandages gone. Not in my stash either. Anyone else have a similar thign happen?

[median shard]

Typically when this happens to me I wait until the client closes on its own or kicks me out on its own. Closing it to fast gives you this result

[errant steeple]

No I’ve never complained about losing 4k worth of bandages 😆

[atomic phoenix]

[reef tangle]

i think that's their try to get away from "wide" stats

[floral sluice]

how do you open the fire room under the stairs/goblin mage in the goblin caves?

[errant steeple]

I e gotten stuck at the load screen about a dozen times and have always just waited until I get kicked back to character select and never lost a kit

[delicate solar]

Yeah, right. And Tarkov with this logic is not dead why, exactly? Many casuals there? And he's not the only one.

[tight narwhal]

boys i need help my friends d&d wont launch at all and support hasn't messaged him

[formal moon]

alt + f4

[muted gulch]

lfg

[chilly nebula]

unpopular opinion maybe, but when im running with my fists as a rogue, a barbarian shouldnt be able to catch me and backstab me with a 2handed axe

[thorn spire]

pretty cold take

[scarlet wing]

he doesnt