game-discussion

[subtle abyss]

eh nah was crystal ball and dagger messing around with bard and bard, was fun either way, rougue still braindead tho

[limber badge]

No light orb in a set with +3 all makes me believe you weren't actually running a 7k +3 all set and are just making up stories to complain about Rogues.

[peak crypt]

Yeah.. i mean.. you need weakpoint and ambush to have that sort of burst potential. And you need like +7 str before you want to start stacking weapon damage. Additional phys dmg is better when you have less than 15 str (negative physical power bonus)

[subtle abyss]

ima be honest u might be the dumbest person ive ever talked to, with the insane nerfs wizard 10 spell was kinda unplayable and didnt have too many clarities, probs go play roblox instead of typing in here cuz u clearly havent played this game enough to go in geared

[limber badge]

No the only dumb person here is running Wizard without light orb in any high-geared situation lol

[dusky sapphire]

Did not know that. That’s good to know, thanks.

[peak crypt]

That’s the second person you’ve called the dumbest person you ever talked to in like the last half hour. And sunny is a great member of the community—nontoxic, helpful, informed.

[warm rune]

If you had bard that even more trolls why weren't they using din?

[subtle abyss]

also even when u take light orb u dont light orb random rooms ? have u played wizard or nah

[trim holly]

Why is it there are 85% rougues in ever goblin cave match?

[peak crypt]

A few of them are rogue mains. The rest are traumatized by being abused by rogues and they still shudder when they hear dagger sounds, even though they’re hearing their own dagger stabbing a cleric.

[limber badge]

My man I love Wizard and if I open a door, or a friend does, be it singles or trios, I toss a light orb into every single area I can. Just resting refreshes light orb rapidly.

[ivory cedar]

Can't beat em join em

[subtle abyss]

yeah i mean for the most part with the nerfs and runniong ball and dagger with +3 all no shot im taking light orb and 10 spell lmao

[sand zenith]

If anything the nerfs made 10 spell even more of a requirement because of the loss of huge utility spells. That or intense focus spam, but certainly not meditate.

[fallow leaf]

Does anyone know the highest base dmg of prenerf stilettos is how many?

[peak crypt]

+3 all and you cant afford a campfire. Wild.

[jovial bobcat]

Ill come back to this game in 2-3 months and see if everything is still infected with the cancer that is the naked rogue

[dusky sapphire]

My GC lobbies tend to have lots of wizards, warlocks, fighters, and barbarians. xD

[trim holly]

How is the game fun hiding in a corner as rouge and waiting for ez kills?

[warm rune]

Whats wild is he has the 2 classes that counter rogue in his team and hes still complaining

[subtle abyss]

no shot u want me to campfire 3 times a round lmao especially in the middle of the fight, please leave discord and try the game cuz u are clearly not playing the game

[limber badge]

The top wizard currently, Jay, runs light orb and it works tremendously.

[sand zenith]

If you can’t end a fight within 10 spells, and +3 all gear I believe we have bigger problems.

[peak crypt]

True, true, i dont play the game. I must not play it all because i dont cry about losing and then call people stupid when they point out obvious and gigantic flaws in how i played.

[ivory cedar]

^

[warm rune]

Thats what you do on 10 spell wizards 3 campfires and a bunch of clarity. It besides the point you had 2 bards on your team they can spam din of darkness.

[slim ether]

RPing a serial killer

[subtle abyss]

bard and barb, they both died and also i dont even care about losing anything i just dont like my high roller lobbies being full of people with nothing that can kill me in 3 or 4 hits

[sand zenith]

Clarity, campfire, bard buff, regen spells within 30 seconds still.

[warm rune]

You say that while playing a one shot wizard lol

[peak crypt]

But no, to be totally honest, i have no idea how to play wizzy in trios HR. Just definitely sounds like you SHOULD be learning why you need to prioritize light orb over.. what’d you take, meditate?

[limber badge]

Wizard light orb is the king of anti-rogue and completely shuts down the weakpoint + ambush strat.

[prime marlin]

is the rusty iron door gone? cause i just went in with the key for it on ruins and it wasnt there.

[warm rune]

You should be complaining about rangers if anything as a wizard not rogues.

[dusky sapphire]

@peak crypt Would you happen to know what True Phys DMG does? I know it sounds obvious, but I can’t tell if it’s better than Add Phys DMG or not. >w<

[peak crypt]

I hope we get light orb lanterns :(

[sand zenith]

It was removed weeks ago yes.

[subtle abyss]

in the beginning i said rougues and rangers, they just mad for some reason ngl

[warm rune]

We need this bad

[prime marlin]

ah so the key is useless? @sand zenith

[peak crypt]

True is added on at the end of the formula, so, it is not affected by head/limb shot, armor reduction, or your bonuses.

(((WpnDmg) * physPowBonus) +addlPhys) * hitLocation * physDmgReduction) + TruePhysDmg

It’s “nice to have” and can be really good on fast weapon, but no bonuses at all.

[sand zenith]

Unfortunately for the time being yes, I believe their was a clipping exploit where you could loot the pile through the wall.

[white sorrel]

Rusty key has like a few chests inside, not worth. I just buy them to condense gold down.

[vestal falcon]

Rank the Top 3 classes in order go!! 1.Wizard 2.barb 3.ranger

[warm rune]

Depends are we talking trio comp or solo play.

[sand zenith]

Wizard, Bard, Cleric.

[limber badge]

1. Wizard 2. Rogue 3. Barb, would be my estimate for trios.
   For singles, 1. Rogue, 2. Barb, 3. Warlock or Wizard, probably Wizard.

[vestal falcon]

Great question 3 man

[warm rune]

Wizard, bard, Any

[peak crypt]

That door needs a regular lockpick. Rusty key currently has no use (anyone please correct me if wrong, but I’m pretty confident it is entirely useless right now and you should sell it to speculators before a wipe gets announced)

[broken epoch]

Where do people get info on upcoming wipe etc? I can’t seem to find any info on it

[limber badge]

Hmm well actually cleric goes pretty hard in GC with smite and divine strike. Damage output is pretty insane.

[trim holly]

Legit get teamed on every game by 2 rougues at the end Game is unplayable right now

[warm rune]

Wipe is always on thursday.

[tranquil skiff]

Reddit q and a by peg

[vestal falcon]

If rust gods have showed us anything it will be Thursday

[broken epoch]

Sooo, more info on Reddit then on here?

[peak crypt]

No announcement about wipe right now. It almost certainly wont happen or get announced until HR leaderboards end. (Woops, didnt know onePeg qna had anything about upcoming wipe? Just some details on a big balance patch coming “this week”)

[subtle abyss]

this thursday?

[tranquil skiff]

Might be thurs night est this time tho, instead of usual morning or afternoon. @broken epoch and yes, def.

[vestal falcon]

lmao i have no idea but HS ends then so maybe

[limber badge]

Excited for this week's change, hopefully lots of Rogue buffs ||:^)||

[tranquil skiff]

My mistake, thats for the update, no idea if wipe is with it.

[peak crypt]

They need em. Last night i fought a cleric and a fighter and after the fighter was dead i had to run to a health shrine before i could kill the cleric. Big annoying

[potent horizon]

lol if its a joke its funny, if not then you need to look at rogue

[formal moon]

Rogue needs big buffs

[limber badge]

It's a joke lol, just memeing.

[west cove]

Up vote it bring back old tavern if you played the play tests and like the new one more your a fake old tavern OT lobby https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/493084/have-two-spawn-lobbys

[potent horizon]

i would love that

[tranquil skiff]

What if the made a map, called Town. And tavern is just one of many buildings?

[west cove]

would be sick you gotta help get this thing going cause I need old tavern back

[limber badge]

I have heard rumblings that they changed it due to the lawsuit. I have no evidence to prove this, but just heard through the grapevine.

[potent horizon]

like a home base?

[peak crypt]

Same thing with the dope ass artwork (that still made it on the madrinas box somehow)

[analog meteor]

they initially said they want to make a whole town with the merchants, like a prelobby, lobby with a home base in it

[robust sigil]

is there a trading channel? or only trade post ingame

[tranquil skiff]

Nah, a 0 level. Then you goto ruins. All the adventurers just couldnt wait to get there before the clubbing began.

[fading plinth]

Rogue mains be like 🤓 Skill Issue 🤓

[peak crypt]

I kinda like it but I’m also sorta reminded of Marauders and how piloting a ship to the raid got tedious after a few dozen matches.

[raven furnace]

Can we please for the love of fucking christ turn down the spawn rate for red spiders i cant even get to the pot before 2 more spawn its so fucking annoying

[hard sierra]

can we please alter GC spawns? having 5 people spawn inth e bottem area all rush eachother in the same room within the first minute is really not a great meta

[dense nexus]

another GC game another rush within 15 seconds of spawn. YAY!

[peak crypt]

You sure they’re all spawning there and not just all pushing toward book shelves or mining room? I always go for pede, shelves, or mining room at the rip. And if i spawn mining room, i rush the dude that’s behind boards in the hideout

[fading plinth]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/16jla9f/spideer_mommy_is_make_not_sense/

[peak crypt]

Yo that wall of text got slapped down so fast lmao. @fading plinth perfect copy pasta. Well done, my friend.

[limber badge]

Do the spider pots give exp? When you shatter them

[dense nexus]

spawn near bookshelves in gc. Barb rushes me. My options are: run into a mob behind me. run into the mob in front of me. run into the barb. it's so fun!

[fading plinth]

[tranquil depot]

Too much collision in this game bro

[limber badge]

Bookshelves in GC? Where this be? Like the one area with the gobbo mage?

[brave sparrow]

whats better +1 weapon damage or +2 physical power?

[forest nimbus]

Can we nerf the freaken ghouls plz

[peak crypt]

Yes, that sounds like a typical bookshelf spawn. I always want to get prot shrine asap when I spawn there because there IS someone coming. @limber badge exactly.

[limber badge]

I like to open the secret cubby hole there and sit in it lol

[true lodge]

id personally just kill the barb but thats just me

[warm rune]

I always din people who do that lol

[peak crypt]

Bro i have safely rested in there so many times and i still dont even remember to check for people there lol

[limber badge]

You know where NO ONE seems to check, is the secret wall by the spider jar and zombie. It's a cool little spot too, the 3 gob archers are kinda a pain but there's a lot of terrain to cheese them with

[dense nexus]

not with standard gear rogue

[true lodge]

yes i would

[gloomy cedar]

can I see somewhere base stats of items? for example dmg range for weapons

[peak crypt]

Ohhh wow. I dont think ive even thought about that area since before EA. I even remember where that lever is. Time to take the slayer fighter back to the caves tonight :D

[limber badge]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Double_Axe
Dark and Darker wiki has you covered, just search for a weapon of your choice.

[dense nexus]

k

[limber badge]

Also for Barbs, their greatest weakness is getting into their face, hugging them. Because like that wiki shows: You'll be getting hit for 60% damage instead of getting the full brunt of that axe right to your noggin. At least, it's a good strat if you're rogue. Or just rapier kite them.

[tranquil skiff]

Lol. I like the 4 different spellings for spider

[peak crypt]

Default rogue spawning at bookshelves, count to 10, hide, wait and third party the fight that will inevitably take place at the shelves. Everyone that’s broke wants to loot that room. But yeah, in your case, i woulda just died. Probably while still trying to deal with the first mummy, lol.

[limber badge]

Or just run upstairs, quickly open the door, aggro every single mob in a 5 mile radius then run at this barb and hide

[peak crypt]

Mobs are a default rogue’s best weapon lmao.

[hot grove]

MAJOR BUG. MY PARTY JOINED AN ACTIVE DUGNEON 5 MINS IN THE GAME. WE JUST SPAWNED IN THE DARK ZONE.

[peak crypt]

Woah thats a weird new one. I wonder if that map has 18+3 players..?

[peak crypt]

Some guy in general is asking about the same thing. That your teammate?

[hot grove]

no, only i posted from my group

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[peak crypt]

Oh ok, yeah, happened to “vn0” also had the same bug

[spark musk]

They should do lobby merging and infinite floors that keep scaling up enemy difficulty and loot quality

[supple jay]

ANYONE know why dark n darker is crashing on startup ?? im using a vpn, i updated my drivers... IDK what to do.

[dusky sapphire]

Thanks for the info. Sorry for the late reply. I was driving home from work. I guess I won’t prioritize that stat then, but it’ll be “nice” to have.

[vagrant dragon]

Crashing as in you get an error message?

[supple jay]

ya

it says dungeon crawler 14 times

[devout lily]

Anyone run into the issue of buffing as a bard and buffs disappear instantly?

[ivory ingot]

Try repairing the game, it worked for me

[plucky jolt]

Petition to rename the game to *Rogue and Ranger *

[analog spire]

same

[supple jay]

i tried

[ornate spear]

hey, with the current upvote downvote system, i'd like to get a blue name. are the colored names bound by character, or account? i'm wondering if my friends can just keep upvoting me regardless of what character i'm on or if i have to stay on one specific character and get that character upvoted

[drifting berry]

gear score when?

[haughty copper]

when will they wipe. everyone already got everything in the game please wipe already 😭

[south coyote]

Bro stop it was bard wizard and before that barb rogue
It's a team game.

[vagrant dragon]

Memory Access Violation? Someone else on here had the same issue. No clue if it got resolved. If so it can be many things. Like antivirus or something else preventing the game from running. Or if very unlucky faulty RAM.

[high marlin]

I have every class over level 15, I've not made it out of a game in recent memory.
If I play pre level 15 I get out of over half my games.

I can't make any more characters and I don't want to delete my characters just so I can enjoy the game for 10 runs a time

[crisp mural]

anyone know if crush perk works with viking sword on barb?

[peak crypt]

Yeah but it’s really only effective with 2h. It will take like 8 chops to break a chest (never actually hit a door enough to break it, just didnit once to a chest with a horsey)

[crisp mural]

Thanks, what about shield blocks? I assume nothing then

[weak jolt]

Hi guys does anyone had the same problem( probably skill issues), but like i can't hit anything at all. I miss all my swing close or mid range, miss all my spell, can't hit a player with some weapon like spear. If i don't aim for chest i only miss and if the guys turn around me, i only miss my swing. Is there a reason or i only need training. ( my friend don't have this issues neither people on internet)

[limber badge]

Stepped right into a ranger trap and still managed to kill him, thank god for barb hp

[lone shale]

can't play atm the servers have too much lag, keep disconnecting

[novel plover]

wizards balanced and theres no such thing as lag in the server you are jsut bad

[high moss]

Anyone mind telling me if "Penetrating shot"works with melee weapons or is it purely bows and cross bows?

[lone shale]

lol wizards are cool af, too technical for me to play im just simple fighter. But the server lag is bad right now. Not for everyone but I can't play without lag killing me atm just dying to mobs. don't usually have a problem.

[novel plover]

nah ur just coping game is of course perfect just noob get good

[weak umbra]

no

[limber badge]

https://imgur.com/a/xY9dFAo
I feel as though I may be contributing to the "nerf rogue" rhetoric in 1-14 GC

[stark fog]

Buff rogue

[subtle heart]

Create no trade league! Do it now! Graysun do it today as soon as you can everyone wants it and the game is trash without it. Use gold for potions and gambling! This promotes people to give people loot in raids instead of rogues and bards hoarding with their fast interaction speed.

This will breed a less toxic community and allows casters who need to sit to regain spells without the fear of missing out. Literally no downside. If people want to trade gear they find with friends they have to bring it into the lobby and risk losing it.

This is in my suggestions on the website, does anyone see any weak points in this suggestion?? Looking for feed back. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/493032/no-trade-character-creations

[brittle zenith]

you just... don't explain what that is? 'create' no trade league?

[subtle heart]

Read the body of the subject??

is there a trade channel on this discord ?

[median pulsar]

when is wipe comming cos isnt there a confirmed dupe glitch

[uneven ermine]

your just gonna get a bunch of trolls responding save your head

[proud void]

They should of wiped 2 weeks ago, I expect them to wipe in 2 months tho :)

[median pulsar]

cool

[limber badge]

leaderboards end in just 3 days so I expect a wipe sooner than later

[brittle zenith]

no you just don't say what it is. i can easily infer what you mean but you don't acctually say it. you want to be able to trade for free with your party. they don't do that because everyone would use that to avoid the fee.

[ancient marten]

ANYBODY LOOKING FOR A BARD,

[drifting berry]

@median pulsar i think 1 week AFTER the leaderbord close..they patch on Fr..and if they fuck up again they can rework the patch and THEN they gonna wipe...

[limber badge]

Soon we will have an end to the +3 menace

[main garden]

Idk, it’s mental to nerf gear obtainable but keep all the old gear around, just begging for game breaking builds

[vapid oyster]

hopefully part of the bard rework is letting people upload midi files like mordhau so we can play doom theme

[opal breach]

let people use their keyboard as a midi input

[drifting berry]

i hope bard gets cd on his spells so he cant just spamm everything 24/7.. pot limit would also be good

[brittle zenith]

they said that the last wipe was sooner then they wanted and that was about 3 weeks and we not even at 3 yet. they want to do quarterly wipes. so once every 3 months. this isn't rust. we don't wipe bi weekly and it shouldn't be a chore to play this game like rust is. they want long term sustainability and for the things people work for the be kept for a while. @drifting berry @proud void

[empty gulch]

this also isnt the full thing, so as changes happen wipes will need to be more frequent this early into development, can't go based off what they are aiming for once the games done cause obviously it isnt

[proud void]

exactly, they've changed too much shit for there not to be a wipe already

[uneven ermine]

idk seems like having double the time of a playtest has given way more item availability the trade is all over the place, it is just in EA tho so not a complaint

[limber badge]

I genuinely hope that we get a wipe sooner than 3 months, at least for now.

[brittle zenith]

very ture. but to not shoot for that desn't make sense. if ur goal is to wipe once every 3 months then it would make sense to try and not wipe even if there are some problems.

and im sure they will wipe sooner then 3 months lol. like said. EA game

[uneven ermine]

they will figure out a good wiping point eventually its the first season lol

[brittle zenith]

just saying be ready for them to not wipe in the next 2 weeks here.

[tropic torrent]

when is it better to get 2x1s or 2x2s items instead of cracked 1x1s

[dim cloud]

The slayer fighter perk, does it work with 2 handed weapons?

[lime plinth]

Im just gonna say it. Rogue and Ranger has killed DaD. Look at the player counts in trade. Rogue has more traders than fighter and it shows with how shit the gamestate is

[brittle zenith]

talking about the size of the item in the inventory? here are the prices for things. https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Treasures

[merry hornet]

Anyone else just getting stuck at loading screens?

[limber badge]

It does not. But having a lantern in your off hand works

[empty gulch]

now, you might call me crazy, but if a bard finds a good dagger, they MIGHT be in rogue trader to sell it therefor inflating the store with other classes then rogue. don't get me wrong rogue needs a tuning to it's stealth, true invis should not be a thing in a game like this but regardless no need to be over dramtic with the "DaD is dead"

[brittle zenith]

nice pfp. ya the two classes that are inherently unfun to play against, like playing against a sniper in BF. are op right now. honestly they should be weak all the time for this reason alone

[wary horizon]

3 times in a row now I spawned goblin caves mine spawn, before ive even killed my first goblin a ranger opens a side door and lands 2 arrows on me immediately. 2/3 my hp just GONE

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[drifting berry]

@brittle zenith you know that you can doupe items right now????? you know that all the plus 3 all atributes items are broken und unfarmable????? like dafuq we need a wipe asap and as long as they CANT FIX there problems we need wipes more often...sadly

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[tropic torrent]

ranger and rogue need nerf NOW

[drifting berry]

gear score when @warped belfry ????

[brittle zenith]

no, wipe is a bad fix. they are the devs. they OWN THE GAME. they can change any item with +3 to a +1. that simple. no need to waste everyones time with a reset because hackers gana hack.

[wary horizon]

im not even scared of rogues, just rangers, or fighters with bows

[vapid oyster]

they should make it so rogue cant jump at all and have to take a perk for single jump

[high nebula]

People only want rogue nerfs because all they play is solos

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[analog timber]

Reduce their movement speed by 50% and they need a perk to equip a weapon

[weak umbra]

never

[drifting berry]

i agree 1000% @tropic torrent ..and they nerf wpn dmg and scale on fr..but this will not be enought..aimbush needs nerf..and ranger projektile dmg needs a nerf..or the 3. shot...

[empty gulch]

certianly need to take away double jump or remove true invis and make it a invis like halo, were you would have a hard time seeing it in the dark but in a little light it'd be noticeable

[drifting berry]

@warped belfry what you smoking? gear score when??????

[weak umbra]

never

[dull grove]

where do i report people for scamming?

[brittle zenith]

thats not the philosophy the game. the point is that there is no match making. you go in with ur gear and everyone goes in with their gear. if everyone has legndary. no one does.

[vapid oyster]

imagine making a serious braindead reply like this to that silly post I made
get out of the gobo caves scrub

[drifting berry]

@brittle zenith as you see they dont delte the items..they dont change the items..so its a very unfair expirince atm in HR..almost unplayble..and full with naked rouges with 0 skill. dats why i want gear score and a wipe ASAP!

[limber badge]

#1056520745330675763 I guess, although that seems primarily for cheating.

[weak umbra]

well you were stupid enough to get scammed so idk what to tell you

[dull grove]

cool answer my dude.. have fun with all of your 0 friends

[empty gulch]

ooooh, so you're a rogue main with the delusion that invis is a engaging game mechanic just sitting in a coner or on a pillar for half the lobby waiting on footsteps, gotcha. I'll leave you to your trollin lmao

[weak umbra]

have fun with all of your 0 braincells to get scammed

[warped belfry]

[vapid oyster]

I mostly play wizard and you're clearly terrible lmao

[drifting berry]

moonguy dont be toxic..what is ur problem...

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[vapid oyster]

bro thought I was serious when I said rogues shouldn't be able to jump

[weak umbra]

well its just truth, i really cant add anything is someone was like "okay i will give him gold for something that he will give me in the second trade, im sure he will accept IT and not just block me"

[brittle zenith]

its the balance of the game that is the problems here. not that they haven't wiped every other week. they do change items. like when they compressed the gear difference between grey and lengdary. like i said the goal is to get quarterly wipes. not so say that we shouldn't wipe, but that you are complaining about the wrong thing. this all will happen again. just like last time and the time before that.

[spare elbow]

As a less 🍑hole response, there are several confirmation steps in trade for a reason.

[warm rune]

Bard stuff is so cheap its not even fair

[molten otter]

Idk where to throw a suggestion, but it would be nice if party chat stayed when someone left. I just had a guy I killed add me to his team, shit talk me, and leave. Nothing so bad it deserves reporting, but I would like to share his salt with my friends. lol.

[tardy dirge]

nerf rogue

[dull grove]

nice answer for someone who doesnt have contextr

[white sorrel]

If you are getting scammed in trade then I'm sorry but that's a skill issue. There are 2 confirmations you have to do. One is the initial hitting the check and then the second you hover over the item and click and confirm again.

[empty gulch]

naw, was implying that double jump is a stupid mechanic and only encourages finding spots to go invis and wait for 5 mins for players to walk by, try contributing some real points bud, as thirsty for a reaction as your profile pic

[brittle zenith]

all gery stuff is cheap? what class has expensive stuff?

[vapid oyster]

it doesn't surprise me that someone dumb enough to take that post seriously is bad at the game, have fun in those LR gobo cave games lol

[drifting berry]

read again @icy swan can you also typ something or you just copy the pasta @warped belfry ?????

[warm rune]

You can get a Bis kit for less then 500g

[mint oasis]

you can get DECENT kit for 500 not bis lol

[empty gulch]

if you had even a sliver of reading comprehension you'd have the common sense to understand it was suggestion on what could be done about rogues, you're just fishing to troll

[brittle zenith]

you.... you ated the wrong person.... i think im done with you if you really don't get it...

[spare elbow]

^

[vapid oyster]

replies to joke post
gets confused when not taken seriously
stay in school lmfao

[brittle zenith]

ruby cost the same to me as it does to you tho...

[empty gulch]

the 4chan reply explains everything, replying to you is pointless, enjoy being sad fam

[high nebula]

How is rogue broken in trios? Since that's what the game is balanced for im curious on your thoughts

[vapid oyster]

enjoy the gobo caves scrub

[cosmic lava]

b/c he pushed without clearing and died

[drifting berry]

nerf rogue nerf ranger get a gear score!

[vapid oyster]

rogues kinda suck in HR 3s, dude is a scrub

[empty gulch]

do you HONESTLY think they are going to get rid of duos and solos? lets be honest it will not happen so now you also need to think of the other gamemodes as well, duos and solos. in trios its a problem when three decide to pick a room and sit in it till they hear another squad and all go invis. Lets be honest a gmaeplay strat should not be sit in a corner for 5mins and wait. it's extremely non-engaging for bothing parties

[wanton skiff]

pIease teII me if im wrong but isnt the answer to this whoIe trade/no trade ect is to do what tarkov does and put 'found in raid' on an item found in a dungeon or raid

[vapid oyster]

that's not even how people play rogue lol, also called it

[weak umbra]

they are still experimental and can be deleted, also they said that even if these game modes will stay, they wont balance around it

[empty gulch]

theres no prison pocket in this game and matches are 10mins at best and portals don't spawn early so that wouldn't work sadly, honestly just get rid of trade

[high nebula]

So since we begged for solos and duos, now it's too late to get rid of it. Talk about a take over lol.

So you believe the meta is 3 rogues waiting for a team lol

[wanton skiff]

im confused it wouIdnt work because matches are onIy 1O mins? you can find a Iot of 'found in raid' gear hich you can seII at trader in 1O mins

[vapid oyster]

dude has clearly never played rogue, prolly been on the game for 2 days lol

[weak umbra]

Imagine thinking that any good rogue will just camp 1 room for half of the match

[smoky coyote]

thoughts on lowering the amount of players in lobbys

[wanton skiff]

the onIy gear seIIabIe to the trader is stuff with that ;found in raid' titIe just Iike tarkov, if you wear it out it Ioses that titIe and onIy you or your buddy if you bring it out for him can wear it

[spare elbow]

I have over 12,000 hours in this game and 82 gold keys. I m right and u are wrong. Next

[vapid oyster]

but you dont know how many hours or keys I have

[spare elbow]

I know All i need to know… less 😂😂🤣

Sit dowwewennn

[empty gulch]

and you think the meta is having a rogue on a three man? I mean if we are talking about three mans then why does it matter cause no meta would have one of the spots as a rogue because the rogue gameplay is sit and camp which is why it's not viable with other classes. either you go all three rogues or you hinder your team with loss of buffs/heals since you have two carries or one rogue whose going to be two shot anyway. I'm not thinking linear because it isnt linear anymore.

[pulsar galleon]

do you think love can bloom, even in the gobbo caves?

[vapid oyster]

I think it's most likely in the gobo caves tbh

[drifting berry]

gear score when?

[weak umbra]

you seriously think playing rogue means camping in 1 place? go back to goblin caves then

[brittle zenith]

i mean ur right but also i see no reason why they couldn't have a class later on that is made only for teams.

[summer elk]

What about lvl 1-14 is normal lobby without trade then 15-20 is Hr lobby with trade !! That will force geared player to play against geared player and some time lose they gear ! Cause normal lobby with all those over gear player is trash!

[umbral nebula]

gear score is needed

[fleet swallow]

Ranger removal needed

[weak umbra]

so many crybabies here, general chat is off or what?

[high nebula]

Yeah you're beyond casual that it hurts. Rogues are design to pick off the squishies from a team, mages, archers, etc. It's not just hiding in a corner.

God you casuals don't even play the game yet are the most vocal jesus

[vapid oyster]

...lol

[empty gulch]

if you don't think it's not what the majority of rogues do you are delusional, a rogue with some decent gear might play a little more aggro but thats not the majority of players now is it lol

[pulsar galleon]

I think we should give the ranger akimbo arbalests

[polar crescent]

100% AGREE

[umbral nebula]

gear score when`?

[drifting berry]

bring gear score ASAP!

[fleet swallow]

Who wants to play dark and darker!!! 🤚 who wants to fight a ranger!!!

[summer elk]

Why ! Cause u afraid of playing against geared player ?? U can only wipe grey player ?

[vapid oyster]

that how it already works you genius

[empty gulch]

and you have a one track mind, you might play a little differently but thats not how the majority play rogue, majority camp and go invis ina dark corner, throw some actual thought into replys instead of hurling insults, doesnt make your points more valid

[brittle zenith]

go play a different game. its not how this one works.

[umbral nebula]

we need it asap!!!! GEAR SCORE WHEN????!

[weak umbra]

never played with a rogue that camps, never camped when playing rogue. i understand that it may be a viable strategy in goblin caves but its not balanced around it

[polar crescent]

yeah because when a guy has all legendary gear and im stuck with greens its so fair

[summer elk]

No !! I mean HR only for lvl 15-20 can’t queue as normal lobby !!

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[spare elbow]

“All is fair in love and war.”?

[fleet swallow]

Oh good heavens my opponent pressed Q and now I have three projectiles lodged in my frontal lobe! Splendid!

[torpid crow]

20 Cleric LF Hellruns/Pvp/Hr (I know/done all bosses)

[empty gulch]

even before duos in ruins, the middle pillars are a prime example, teams of three rogues haven lmao, though the most geared ones got the spot

[umbral nebula]

gear score when?????

[vapid oyster]

!! how would that !!! change people with ! gear in sub-15 lobbies?!?~ ~

[polar crescent]

GEAR SCORE IS A MUST

[near relic]

no it isn't

[weak umbra]

devs already said that it wont be a thing

[brittle zenith]

just going to ruin the game for everyone. games that have gear score are all dead btw

[spare elbow]

Bro knows how to boss but not how to find #lfg-northamerica

[white sorrel]

Trader and non trader lobbies.

[high nebula]

Your experience comes from goblin caves and it's obvious for the fact you think a 3 man rogue team was a meta team.

Yes casual is the best word to describe you.

Actually play rogue in crypts with a 3 man and see how far sitting in a corner goes for you.

I made plenty of points, you don't want to hear it, you just want to nerf anything that kills you, typical casual

[umbral nebula]

DEVs should bring gear score asap! before game begins to die!

[devout yacht]

you don't have to comment on every little thing

[hasty kraken]

Bring your gear score before you die

[hollow frigate]

gearscore asap pls

[ripe flume]

The Devs already admitted in a Q & A that the game is NOT balanced. clearly there's some tweaking that needs to be done in order to bring things more in line. No one likes getting runned down but a rogue with 40+ str, 110+ move spd, and 140+ HP just becasue " GEAR" and stat attrubites being wayyy overtuned.

[empty gulch]

again, just assuming to hurl insults "HUR DUR GC ONLY SCRUB" there is no point in entertaining you anymore

[spare elbow]

[polar crescent]

The game is such a turn off getting wiped by a team of god sets

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[weak umbra]

devs already said that gbmm wont be a thing

[brittle zenith]

good. leave. 🙂

[summer elk]

If u lvl 1-14 u play in normal lobby only then. Whene lvl 15-20 u play HR lobby only !! In that case all geared player are only in hr lobby!
If u suck and can’t get gear or gold juste remake a toon then return to normal lobby

[vapid oyster]

I still ! don't understand what the difference would be?!!!?

[high nebula]

You can't answer actual points so you run, yet again what a casual does.

You can call it insults if you want, but that's on you for demanding change for a class you know nothing about

[pulsar galleon]

I used to think video game devs in general should be listening to their playerbase more. Then I came here

[ripe flume]

I think they should look at stat / attribute caps for classes to keep things more in line within the individual classes and leave room open for counterplay

[polar crescent]

You cant out skill a person who has 70% PDR

[hasty kraken]

Go to maplestory

[brittle zenith]

thats why there is a curve for everything. there are all ready soft caps in place

[median pulsar]

im a lvl 15 solo and i dont play on the goblin caves and i see starter gear people on the "hr lobby" they made

[weak umbra]

we dont care, just stop playing

[ripe flume]

it's not enough, in what world is it ok for a rogue to have over 40+ str crazy move speed and 140-170hp?? you're F*cked no matter what you're wearing

[spare elbow]

Hm kind of true, magic damage might help though.

[turbid condor]

wtf rollback

[brittle zenith]

ya rogue is crazy rn. curves are fine lol

[charred galleon]

it is fair, he is risking over a 1000 on his kit, you get 70% of his power by wearing greens. just because you can't win in your mind doesnt mean youcant win lmao

[summer elk]

At this moment player playing in a normal lobby to one taped grey ppl lobby ! Split between 2 lobby if is hr only ,geared player will die with they gg gear some time

[polar crescent]

You clearly have a team with some strats because every lobby i cant extract because they are camping portals god sets

[white sorrel]

If u use a war maul that 70% becomes 49%, so they go from 3.5X effective HP to around 2X effective HP.

[weak umbra]

we dont care, just stop playing

[umbral nebula]

need to nerve rogue , need to nerve ranger triple shot and the devs really need to get a gear score. they should really think about it

[empty gulch]

once agian, only thinking about ONE thing at a time with your ONE track mind, crypts isn't the only map and trios is NOT the only gamemode as much as you want to kick and scream about how it should be which i neither agree nor disagree, now and until they get rid of duos and solos. stop @ me, tired of trying to communicate with a wall

[charred galleon]

Guaranteed they are not lmfao

[gusty kindle]

i feel like playing rogue is TOO fun rn. at least in gc you have so much of an advantage. when i play other classes i feel like i get punished so hard if i make one tiny mistake, while playing rogue, you can get away, literally and also not, with much more. one big REASON i think its the fact rogues can herd mobs much more effectively than any other class. the pve in gc is real nasty

[polar crescent]

100% they are every game

[spare elbow]

If you dont have a wiz, caster cleric, or warlock on your team, you must know you are exposing yourself to the risk of being unable to effectively push a high pdr build fighter

[austere zinc]

When are no skilled Rogues and Rangers being removed? Thanks!

[summer elk]

And yes a gear score is need ! No point a fully purple/legendary player rolling in normal for grey player and some shit

[charred galleon]

they literally arent lmao, where are you on the high roller leaderboard? nonexistant? pretty sure u have no idea what ur talking about

[polar crescent]

We play for fun and the game isnt fun when people are sweating in normal lobbies

[weak umbra]

we dont care, just stop playing

[high nebula]

Jesus your special, the devs literally said they balance off of trios whether you like it or not.

They should get rid of the other modes because you people can't read lmao.

I'm not thinking with a one track mind, I'm literally stating what the devs say they balance off of.

[umbral nebula]

Gear Score WHEN?

[spare elbow]

You can play for fun while dying, but id youre ultra casual just make new characters and only play 1-14

[hollow frigate]

is there a gearscore coming?

[polar crescent]

Im done with this conversation go buy more gold to play for top leaderboard score

[charred galleon]

So you want everyone to just purposely lose to you and play like shit? people shouldn't be playing to win?

[weak umbra]

we dont care, just stop playing

[spare elbow]

I felt like i offered you really reasonable suggestions in an honest manner. No need to be rude. good day to you sir

[summer elk]

Why geared player queue as normal lobby ! Why they don’t grow up and go Hr for better loot and fight against player geared like them ?

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[vapid oyster]

I wonder if I wrote a discord bot to count the number of times people say "gearscore", would ironmace let me add it to the discord

[ripe flume]

weapon damage, + all attributes, and STR is all you need on rouge to meme on lobbies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcaHvjDW778&t=67s

PDR doesn't do Sh!t against weakpoint / ambush you'll still get 3-4 tapped on a geared fighter if not sooner. you can abuse ambush with invis pots too or just pop your stealth when you're engagning to proc it

[polar crescent]

Wasnt meant for you but the moon kid that kept saying my opinion isnt valid because im not on high roller leaderboard

[lost gulch]

dont have arrows block your view i just played a game and got shot and the entire arrowhead blocked my whole view since it was right in my face and i lost cause i couldnt see anything

[weak umbra]

we dont care, just stop playing

[charred galleon]

because they will die on their very first run, their kits are not that good and they are not good players

[charred galleon]

your opinion isn't valid lmao youre not even ON THE BOARD go make a new character and get wrecked by ppl in base kit have fun!

i love this game

[drifting berry]

gear score when???

[pulsar galleon]

it ain't happening

[hollow frigate]

good idea. briung for donators +5 all items and make it pay 2 win

[weak umbra]

we dont care, just stop playing

[sullen shadow]

If I use VPN to connect to let's say US, then will I have US playerbase in the market?
What I mean is: Can I use vpn to switch in-game market 'server'?

[umbral nebula]

Gear is needed!!!

[sullen shadow]

Is that even legal according to rules?

[drifting berry]

@weak umbra yeah good one mate...i bet ur a guy brining all your best gear into normal lobbys and be happy to win a fight against gray/green players XD and you even think you "outplayed" them HAHAHAH

[weak umbra]

we dont care, just stop playing

[charred galleon]

bro wtf are you on about, the devs literally said YESTERDAY gear score lobbies are never gonna happen

[pearl acorn]

imagine being geared mid fight and getting kicked off the server please fix your game holy moly

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[umbral nebula]

moonguy thinks he is the main character of Dark and darker

[ashen ermine]

how to not trigger trolls fast movement speed thing ?

[restive nymph]

lmfaaooo

[drifting berry]

no you mean you dont care @weak umbra

[weak umbra]

we dont care, just stop playing

[charred galleon]

moonguy IS the main character of dark and darker. better him than you terrible players/balance whiners like yall got the 'tism

[spare elbow]

Ah it all looks so easy now, just get a 4k rouge kit and 750 worth of heals with 2 surgical kits, and i too can solo wipe lobbies!

[drifting berry]

500 usd for the guy who banning Rattlehead! nice talking to you !

[restive breach]

where can i report pre lobby teaming on GC?

[umbral nebula]

oh well you must be his wife tommy. why isnt your name moonwife? guess youre his sidestep or something....

[warped belfry]

we now you are still in middle school and dont have 500usd

[restive nymph]

its not balancing if you put all level players in the same matchmaking its spreading out the sweaty fat nerds. now all 15+ lobbies are HR lobbies theyre killing the game same way cod did with sbmm

[charred galleon]

i would only be so lucky

[summer elk]

Whene a full geared player roll on grey player in normal lobby this game need a rethinking

[drifting berry]

oh rattlleshit is not a bot XD what a surprise

[runic stone]

I dont think rogues are busted i just think their kit is severely making them unliked do to it being extremely cheesy and low skill ceiling no one wants to work their ass off killing a geared player or walk down a door jsut to get 2-4 bonked by a rogue

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[charred galleon]

I love killing rogues. especially when they're like "im friendly" like we can't literally see what class they are. "we don't need to do this!!!" oh yeah, we do this.

[summer elk]

Imagine don’t have any other argument

[drifting berry]

just block this noob

[warped belfry]

do not need one, you need to remember what game you purchased

[astral cargo]

Yall only complain cus yall bad 🤣 just be half decent and use half ur brains and it’s not hard

[summer elk]

I purchase a games to have fun ! Not a game they geared player roll on casual player !!!

[ebon lion]

The most forgiving "hardcore" game, i don't mean this as a complaint but they really should change the description

[drifting berry]

his belly his huge his brain has delay let me guess Rattlehead is from NA?

[umbral nebula]

XD

[warped belfry]

says the new account wanting gsmm lol

[charred galleon]

Xquten! more like XquCEZ, for why he sucks at the game!

[astral cargo]

I’m struggling to spot actual ‘people’ here, yall dumb asf

[summer elk]

Every game have a “gearscore” or. “Io”. “Ranking” to play against same range of skill/lvl player !!

[pulsar galleon]

You knew what you were doing when you bought this game

[warped belfry]

why? the description is why i bought it
@charred galleon nice

[dim tapir]

ahhhh i see the people who are salty there arent level 7s uber eating them gear are in the chat

[charred galleon]

dumb asf is the new normal, where u been

[formal moon]

Adventure score would be the best, mmr would kill the game

[floral dove]

arrows shouldn't inflict the same slowdown per hit as a goddamn war maul

[frozen sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/swaith-arrow-ouch-gif-14001004

[ebon lion]

Oh I mainly just mean nothing about it is "hardcore" or "unforgiving". In the most respectful way its the fortnight of extraction games

I still enjoy this game but again it's like the easiest extraction game there is. Which isn't bad, it's easy to enjoy casually

[warped belfry]

No, no they do not. But you can go play those games, League is pretty fun

[devout yacht]

true.. longbow shouldn't do as much damage or more than a longsword

[drifting berry]

@warped belfry i guess ur to dumb to play dota 2

[charred galleon]

bro what. longswords arent sharp. its like hitting someone with a heavy stick. arrows kill you.

[steady valve]

If I had to change one thing about this game it would be nerfing arrow slow. That is not a fun mechanic lol

[devout yacht]

lol a longsword isn't a larp sword not sure wtf you talkin bout

[summer elk]

Anything to changed this ! I played 2hours today ! Extract like 6-7 time get some green /blue gear then a full purple team came and roll over the lobby ! That not normal !

[charred galleon]

????? a larp sword? ??? longswords have never been sharp in all of history...

[warped belfry]

maybe for now, we will have to see what the quests bring to the table
Also Division was pretty easy

[pulsar galleon]

He brought gear into the lobby! check him pc that is not normally

[ebon lion]

To be fair the one we have isn't very sharp if we remember right. The edges are either dull or flat on purpose

[steady valve]

Tbh I’ve been having way more fun just making new characters when I don’t have a good team to play with. That way every game is balanced and if my teammates suck I still have a chance to survive

[charred galleon]

bro really thinks people were just chopping each other down with longswords back in the day. it was like a bludgeoning weapon dude.

[ebon lion]

No offense quests are probably gonna be pretty bad with how the game is set up currently atleast imo.

But wait why are you bringing up division

[warped belfry]

it is an extraction looter....

[lunar void]

idk if i like the level lobby change, it seems like alot of people just making alts and running crazy gear in the low level lobbys and noones running highrollers and its just juicers in the regular ones. ran a high roller GB cave and it capped out at 3 people before starting.

[ebon lion]

The dark zone, in the fucking division?

Lmao I guess that was a extraction mode

[charred galleon]

it will be the same as tarkov. 'find a few green bandages' 'collect a badge of honor' 'turn in 10 maggots' it literally will barely affect the game at all.

[nocturne furnace]

so, is it normal for under lvl 5 trios wiht full purples ??

[warped belfry]

yes? what is so confusing?

@charred galleon Oh it will. Vendor rep and things

[spare elbow]

Kill a wraith. Collect a golden tooth and return it to me. Kill a skeleton champion. Destroy 5 spider pots. Successfully extract from hell. Bring me a bow from the dungeon. Open a locked chest in the dungeon. Etc

[steady valve]

No it’s likely they are going into games with their mains and dropping juiced gear to their alts and helping them extract so they can run the low lvl lobbies with it. That should be ban worthy imo

[summer elk]

They join a lvl 15 party then before extract they give everything on the lvl 5 ! Then the lvl 5 give item to they party ! Voilà smurf in low lvl normal lobby

[charred galleon]

i think if anything vendor upgrades will be sweet. make it easier for the timmies to run a few greens

[nocturne furnace]

lmao

[drifting berry]

quest and skill trees are kinda useless and just bring more problems

[ebon lion]

Yeah see my issue is, tarkov has like 6 maps. Actual ai, and while cancerous. The quests can be fun

The quests in this game to me come off as a bad battle pass. I'm also worried with how they called fucking dead by daylight an inspiration

[vestal falcon]

YES

[warped belfry]

says the guy that has no clue what game he is playing

[steady valve]

Quests will be nice just for something to work towards. It’s good for dopamine lol but yeah skill tree is going to break the games balance probly

[charred galleon]

ok tarkov has also been out for 6 years. literally 6 years.

[pulsar galleon]

Would anyone like to join me for a little nap

[ebon lion]

But why bring it up? It was just such a random thing

@charred galleon also ye, my point being though trying to implement quests this early sounds so, so bad. Imo

[devout yacht]

I never know if we're talking about dark and darker or history but this is what a google search says

"
razor sharp for the front 6-8'' the rest having a chisel edge ideal to split plate without any folding"

[spare elbow]

I would think there will be a balance between easier quest like acquiring some random item or collectable, while also having quests to encourage learning and exploring the dungeon like some of the ones i suggested could exist. V similar to tarkov quests

[drifting berry]

for what you want quest? there is no craft system and for kill 10 skellis or destroy spider pots? no ty

[warped belfry]

easyness

[devout yacht]

so no you're wrong. Longsowrds are RAZOR SHARP that can SPLIT PLATE lmao so dumb

[drifting berry]

just balance ur game..seems like they have a lot problems with basic shit

[charred galleon]

I dont think it will be bad, i think the selection of quests will just be limited at first. same with tarkov. the first few quests weren't 'go dorms and get ur shit pushed in' it was just to find 2 TOZ. DaD will be the same. just turning in items at first

[steady valve]

People thought of some really cool ones already. Kind of like chain quests where you need to go to different maps and collect different items and extract with them, to move onto another part. I think that would be badass. Some could be like opening a secret room or killing a secret enemy idk

[gritty mica]

Real longswords had honed edged and were sharp enough to lob off limbs. If you think those knights spent hours oiling and sharpening a blade before battle for nothing, you need to reopen a history book.

[tropic breach]

BALOONBUSTERBUDDY and FightThisDiCc are hard core teaming in nornmal goblin caves @storm trellis

[charred galleon]

LMAO MY BAD WHAT DO I KNOW IM JUST A HISTORY GUY

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[vestal falcon]

YEAH WITH THE REAL WIZ AND REAL WARLOCKS WTF U ON ABOUT

[devout yacht]

yea you're bad

[gritty mica]

Whoa, where did the magic card come from

[ebon lion]

I hope it's neat, I would love to have something cool to work towards. But the issue is for me all I can imagine is really bad examples

Traders are separate per character so they can only do kill quests related to your person, exploration quests are simplr and easy but don't provide much substance, God forbid they do something like find 3 salewas. And kill 10 enemy ai is gonna get old so quick

[ionic verge]

Anyone else having rubber band issues? Shit is unplayable atm

[vestal falcon]

guys talking about swords like anything in the game is based off anything real

[devout yacht]

that's exactly what im saying LOL

Are we talking about history or dark and darker??

[willow quest]

I have a question

Is there a way to send items to your other characters now? I remember it wasn't a thing yet in early accesses/playtests...

[drifting berry]

@steady valve i dont know about this one. what u want me to bring them a bow? a golden teath??? for what even? i dont think dats a nice input. i just want a fresh strat with no OP stats item so everyone can have the same stuff

[pulsar galleon]

I’m literally a warlock are you implying I’m not real

[gritty mica]

Uhhhh well, longswords existed and this guy said they were flat edged. They were, in fact, not. Now you can go back to playing with your wands

[vestal falcon]

yes i do like playing with my wand every now and then

[ebon lion]

Everyone know warlock are fake stupid propaganda

Everyone knows witch doctors are actually real and cooler

[warped belfry]

great idea brb

[drifting berry]

and i realy hope they DONT bring in runes to put in ur gear..this would make shit unbalanced as fuck again

[smoky coyote]

Gotta fix. Goblin caves just died to a fucking 5 man team

[fiery socket]

whats the old rusty key give. Gold pile?

[pulsar galleon]

I’m sending my hoodoo sucking demon to your home address

[wanton otter]

HHAAAHAHAHA

[ebon lion]

Try me, gonna regret that when I start poking a doll and brewing a epic potion

[vestal falcon]

i think so too hell at least i will have something to spend my gold on

[charred galleon]

Medieval swords can be generalized into a single category. This belief is erroneous. The reality was that from the very beginning, the form and function of Medieval swords was fluid and in constant development. The “longsword” of the 15th century judicial duel, which was a cut-and-thrust weapon designed for unarmoured combat, was very different from the “longsword” of the 14th century knight, which was a thrusting weapon built to puncture plate armour.

sword pointy. not sharp. arming sword is the old 'longsword'

[polar crescent]

Dont worry man just spend $5 dollars so that you can actually fight against them. Then you can come back to the discord and say skill issue.

[drifting berry]

@warped belfry

[weak umbra]

we dont care, just stop playing

[lunar steeple]

Can you get banned for teaming in Goblin Caves?
and if yes how do i report

[fiery socket]

does the old rusty key give a treasure pile

[ebon lion]

Those are already in the game, it's called unique weapons

[warped belfry]

my hands are full

[pulsar galleon]

Let me know if you want an incubus or a succubus either way I’m gonna have them cast MAGIC TORSION

[drifting berry]

@warped belfry go sleep little kiddy..the only time you respond it to nonsense like are you 12?

[steady valve]

Only if it’s preplanned so you won’t be able to prove it unless you catch the same people teaming multiple times

[charred galleon]

werent u the guy offering 500 USD to get this guy banned from the server?

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[lunar steeple]

well i just got teamed by a full purple rogue while he teamed with a ranger full purple, all i had is longsword and a crosbow, all grey armor and weapons except helmet, why isnt that enough for a 1 day ban atleast, i also noticed how nowadays people are so toxic and just disguisting, in the playetests i havent had people being toxic or anything, now with the zoomers and rogues everything changed. . .

[ebon lion]

Bro I swear to God I will fart on the dolls face and force you to inhale my stench.

I'd like to see your order your devils when you can't breathe

[amber nest]

all they need to do to fix queue sniping being braindead easy (in populated servers) is just implement a 15/60/240/1 day ban for repeatedly abandoning lobbies

[pulsar galleon]

[steady valve]

Just do what I do. Make a new character and go into crypts with randoms you find in gathering hall

[ocean kiln]

Why would they get banned for something thats allowed? You had a gray kit literally no loss

[drifting berry]

yes i am @charred galleon siehst du nicht das er nur seinen scheiß auf copy pasta postet und nichts an input hier reinbringt? einfach useless dieser mensch

[warped belfry]

lol this is gold

[pulsar galleon]

Thank you rattlehead keep up the good work holding the line against the orcbrains talking about gear score

[warped belfry]

how many 12 year olds listen to megadeth I wonder....

[spare elbow]

Everything changed when the fire nation attacked…

[warped belfry]

Any time comrade

[lunar steeple]

sure make it allowed than, but if no change come to people being fully geared and going to low leveled matches the game is going to die out, i mean its litearlly a game community issue instead of a game issue, but it still needs a fix because people like to ruin other people's fun, look at rogue one shotting everyone and just ruining players fun time while earning 100 gold max in a raid instead of possibly 1k in high roller. No one wins, and the level matchmaking system didnt change a thing, when i face against a purple warlock in goblin caves under 15.
People still can get good gear that makes it unfair by friends giving it to them via raids

[devout yacht]

so there's a version that's "cut-and-thrust" and a version that's just "thrust". A longsword can remove limbs or puncture through plate in a larger area. You're historical comment lends additional weight to my original comment.

Back to Dark and Darker, a longbow shouldn't be able to do as much damage as a longsword from 1 or 2 rooms away. There needs to be some additional consideration

[lunar void]

they shouldve made it levels 1-5 get lower lobbys but 6+ are pooled

[drifting berry]

bring gear score asap!

[lunar void]

There's no incentive for people to play past level 15, they just make a new character and buy themselves gear. almost nobody is really playing high roller.

[charred galleon]

Yes the cut and thrust swords are shorter. like arming sword. longsword is heavy and like 60 inch blade. the edges are flat for bludgeoning and its pointy. you get hit with a swing from a longsword and you are hurt but if you get stabbed by an arrow you are legitimately going to die

[devout yacht]

"they ranged from as sharp as a mildly neglected kitchen knife to sharp enough to comfortably shave with. The notion that medieval swords were dull is pure fiction."

[lunar void]

I kind of like that idea, let gear score brackets determine lobbies... obviously make the parameters wide but not to where purple and uniques get matched with white gear.

[spare elbow]

You are right that the incentive to do anything but normals is low for many players, and they are working on fixing that. But in a game with pvp there will always be pvp centric people who would rather seek out kills on players than explore the dungeon for gear. I dont know if that is fixable its just normal human bloodlust

[lunar steeple]

brother i dont think you can get all epics under lvl 15 specifically for your class XD
but i just hope they add a power level system so people can play against skilled players. . . Honest to god its better to just go high roller instead of normal in goblin caves just because of the amount of friendly people letting others have loot there, no one fights almost and everyone is nice, on the normal however, rubysilver toxic people, rogue legendary rondel, viola. . . what made these people do these things?
edit: bro deleted his reply 😭

[charred galleon]

long story short a longbow literally does more damage

[lunar void]

the issue isnt the PVP it's the people slapping on crazy gear and walking around one shotting. im running into teams and in solos people with no game sense just bum rushing because they can 1-2 hit you. Dark and darker is fun when the exchanges are methodical and every hit matters.

[split grail]

People that became a trader at level 10 are grand fathered in

[lunar steeple]

no no no, you got a point, not fair, you won the argument

[devout yacht]

So you're still stuck on the history part which I disagree with and showed counter statements from historical sites. I take it you have nothing to add to the actual subject matter, Dark and Darker or are you going to keep injecting false historical information?

[split grail]

I’m jus sayin I have a level 12 warlock I don’t play that can still trade haha so people can still buy stuff and come in below 15 geared idk what the point of killing naked people in full gear is tho

[charred galleon]

counter statements? basically all statements are 'it depends on what time it was' 1550 era which is where the game is set has all swords. you look at the arming sword and it matches the description of earlier longswords, you look at the actual longsword and you can literally see what im talking about in that the sides of the blade are dulled for striking

are you just mad that the longbow does more damage in the game and did as well in real life, or what?

[spare elbow]

It really depends where you get hit and what type/ if any armor you are wearing when combating either. Naked/ naked to a vital and both will certainly kill you. Longswords were indeed sharp and used for cutting attacks as well as useful for a variety of other methods of pain delivery. At the end of the day though this is a game and not meant to be perfectly realistic, but balanced for fun.

[pulsar galleon]

They’re giving ranger a glock now

[warped belfry]

About Dark and Darker

An unforgiving hardcore fantasy FPS dungeon PvPvE adventure. Band together with your friends and use your courage, wits, and cunning to uncover mythical treasures, defeat gruesome monsters, while staying one step ahead of the other devious treasure-hunters.

[devout yacht]

Yea, most of what you said is fiction and you keep dodging the original topic lmao

So you larp, we get it. You read history wiki, we get it.

[charred galleon]

what is larp

also it turns out there's 24 different types of longsword so eh. you're not right and im not either.

[subtle pawn]

How is it non bannable that streamers can accept items as gifts from chat/have chatters muel for them.

[warped belfry]

live action roleplay lol

[devout yacht]

We already knew you weren't right from the first comment

[ivory cedar]

ban your number 1 marketing tool? bad idea for business

[charred galleon]

ok and you were?

[spare elbow]

You may also be thinking of longswords used in training and fencing, which probably wouldve been dulled for obvious reasons

[trim heron]

When can we get a 100% exit portal so we dont have to worrie about rattie play styles

[devout yacht]

Yea, again you're bad but it's all good

[jagged stump]

They need to split the game into two groups. Normal lobbies and Highroller need hard limitations. Normal lobbies only spawn at most green loot and you can only enter in with green gear at most. High roller has no restrictions but a 100 ante to prevent naked run spam. High roller spawns at minimum green loot and all the way up to everything else.

This resolves the issue of unkillable geared pansies to scared to lose their loot from stomping starter gears all day, and gives a real reason to go highroller to make it worth it. A few green sellables will easily earn you the ante back and you will always make profit if you extract.

[charred galleon]

No i'm thinking of the one in the game with the dulled edges for striking.

@devout yacht post leaderboard rank

[subtle pawn]

Temp ban them, it can't come at the cost of what are essentially pay to win advantages

[pulsar galleon]

Did that guy just ask for guaranteed extractions. I’m gonna go take a nap before I have an aneurysm.

[warped belfry]

what streamers even take items, all i see refuse

[devout yacht]

LOL you have nothing but fiction to add to the longsword v longbow and now you wanna give me leaderboard fiction? Next you'll tell me you're a doctor and archeologist 😂

[ivory cedar]

just a terrible idea still- its common sense, although i agree that its an issue

[charred galleon]

yikes lmao tell me you dont play HR without telling me u dont play HR

[tardy sandal]

Streamers are aware that taking items is looked down upon so some of them definitely do it in secret

[subtle pawn]

All i see accept them. Griffyuh, kenknobi, repoze. All have accepted gifts i've 100% seen it lol

[charred galleon]

kenkenobi looks like he is legitimately sickly

[mint oasis]

@subtle pawn thats every game..fanboys always give free stuff

[hexed egret]

how much r green +3 all going for? friend has one for bard just trying to find a price for it

[subtle pawn]

Gotta love that we have second and first class gamers now lmao

[charred galleon]

in what way

[warped belfry]

cool, ive seen them refuse gifts

[spare elbow]

IG it looks sharpened lol.

[subtle pawn]

I mean when you have people selling your items for you, chatters gifting you items and a host of other advantages you're def not on the same playing field as every one else

[rigid monolith]

Grimmz loves handouts lol

[charred galleon]

well i guess thats it then, it looks sharpened. how dare i speak out about what i thought, i was so wrong. @devout yacht still ass though lmao

[devout yacht]

It s all good man. Live and learn

[spare elbow]

Im not tryna be rude im js

[warped belfry]

streamers are like .000001 of the player base. it is not that big of a deal

[subtle pawn]

It's also exchanging goods for a services, which is bannable they aren't evenly applied standards.

[charred galleon]

im not headass enough that i wont admit it if im wrong. i googled swords today, i learned.

[stark vine]

ruins not being trios anymore feels bad

[mint oasis]

ruins is shit map

[fluid glen]

not if you are cleric lol

[hoary pulsar]

what is the token of honor?

[misty vessel]

they should add necromancer
dude under me druid is confirmed to be able to shape shift 😭

[lunar steeple]

sellable item, its like maggots, just sell it for 60 gold
and bro does the guy above me want the lich king to be a player? 💀

[subtle pawn]

no pet classes that will get out of hand

[sacred ice]

it‘s a token of your great honor. probably relevant for quests in the future. currently sellable to the collector

[hoary pulsar]

Thank you

[hoary pulsar]

Bro the wreath is almost the litch from Adventure Time just the wrong color

[lunar steeple]

XDDD yes

[drifting hinge]

Portals should be open only 5 seconds before it closes and you have to open it again

[subtle heart]

Solo found with only trading in lobby when

[drifting hinge]

A ranger and rouge are left in game, what happens?

Nothing, they both camping a portal each rest of the game

[spare elbow]

Thats a weird take. Its almost always a risk reward to open a portal early because some rat could steal it

[subtle heart]

Why would anyone open a portal unless they are trying to bait. And who just goes up to a portal without the intent of running into it asap

[spare elbow]

So many reasons. A fail safe, heard another team and got greedy, looking for 1-2 more for teammates but very short on time so portal needs to be ready for someone

[drifting hinge]

In goblin you see it almost every game

[subtle heart]

Opening portals before your intent to jump in is a rookie move fight me

[spare elbow]

Sorry my mind is usually thinking in contexts of trios since i mostly play truos

[drifting hinge]

Yep, and in my mind I always think goblin lately lol, I should have said from start

[trail shore]

Hi guys !
Im having this issue in the game instalation " Failed to update pakchunk300- "
does anyone know how to fix it ?

[spare elbow]

It would be interesting if portals could have different behaviors in different dungeons. Though they dont seem interested in putting much if any more work into goblins for the foreseeable future

[subtle heart]

Update pakchunk300

[trail shore]

how i can do that ?

[subtle heart]

Carefully

[fluid glen]

So they can take their time and look for more so every member of the team has a chance to escape? Opening animation is long af so it's better to open it beforehand

[trail shore]

😅 rlly funny but for sure not necessary

[spare elbow]

Depending on the situation not always better. Only if youre really tight on time, always a risk someone steals it if you open then walk away from it

[fluid glen]

It's true but often if the zone is behind and you have to push forward risking pvp you can't risk leaving it closed. At least that's what works for me in basic dungs

[broken forum]

fuck goblin caves and fuck rogues

i never lose to these dumb ass rats but they make the rest of the game unplayable anyway. every single lobby, solos are awful because of one class

[digital fulcrum]

I hope we get a wipe after leaderboard reset

[white sorrel]

I wouldn't mind that. Especially if they change a lot of stuff at once. I'm thinking it's a 50/50 whether the wipe happens at end of leaderboards or in a month.

[spare elbow]

Yeah if its moving out of zone we will usually open it as a failsafe option

[gentle lantern]

does anyone know if the base GC cave troll have more than 1800 hp

the wiki says 1800hp but im not sure since it took 105~~ stabs with a 21 dmg castillon dagger with poison weapon and rupture + weakpoint

[white sorrel]

He has 1800 if not elite. He also heals 2hp per second I think, nvm that's elite only or maybe not?

[tidal plover]

I doubt it they didn’t wipe at end of leaderboards last time

[gentle lantern]

maybe its the limbs dmg multiplier ? idk if that affects the cave troll i wish the wiki was more clear

[white sorrel]

It does, limbs are 0.5X damage.

[ebon lion]

NOOT NOOT

[gentle lantern]

ok that def checks out but i wonder if the base cave troll recovers HP per second

[white sorrel]

I know he does if you leave the room and he returns to the middle

[gentle lantern]

well i think i could assume that much lol i mean while you're fighting it

[sacred knoll]

no hp recovery while fighting it

[twin spear]

only regen for cave troll is when he loses all aggro so if your friendly with someone you two could trade aggro back and forth and he wont regen

[gentle lantern]

ok second question are spells also affected by the limbs/headshot dmg multiplier. or does it depend on the spell ?

[rain moat]

No Gold in stash!!!!!!

[twin spear]

most are but not all of them off the top of my head i know zap doesn't benefit and im unsure about cleric spells but most other wizard spells apply headshot damage and i believe all warlock spells including blow of curruption do apply headshot damage provided the warlock spell has damage on hit

[gentle lantern]

hmm ok thanks

[wheat veldt]

TORCHES CAN ACTIVATE ACHILLIS STRIKE WTF IS WRONG WITH U PEOPLE

[twin spear]

achilles strike is kinda bad now so it doesnt really matter

[scarlet vortex]

difference people increase in physical attack power and physical damage bonus

[wheat veldt]

@twin spear just because it doesnt do damage doesnt mean its bad now its used for a different way of playstyle now

[twin spear]

i agree its a good slow but there are better skills to use on barb plus holding torch slows you down just pull out fists to hit achilles if anything

[twin spear]

also to add on to the headshot damage, damage over time effects do not benefit only direct damage which is a good way to look at it

[gentle lantern]

so like fireball direct hit DOES apply limbs/headshot multiplier but the splash damage and the DoT affect are not affected by it

[polar steppe]

whats happening with all the people bringing HR gears in Normal mode rn ? is there something happening ?

[dense nexus]

Hahahaha

[twin flare]

how do we know when wipe is ?

[formal moon]

they said they would give us notice

[formal rain]

https://kick.com/grindererr?clip=clip_01HAQNHKJABWT7R4YEANWEAMWV This guys are absolutely cheating . 6x hits from our archer and look on last hit from enemy archer he got 80% hp (120 hp) and he got one shot without headshoot

[twin spear]

the DoT is not and i dont think splash does but im not 100% on that

[twin flare]

deal ty

[twin spear]

there is something sus about it for sure but giving the guy the benefit of the doubt if he had amazing gear with full buffs penetrating shot basically everything was perfect it could make sense to do that much with a longbow but it does seem unlikely that someone could do that much damage to you if you were also hyper buffed which it didnt look like you were just antoher case of the longbow being a little too strong

[trail shore]

Hi guys !
Im having this issue in the game instalation " Failed to update pakchunk300- "
does anyone know how to fix it ?

[brave hill]

when is the game wiping?

[nimble hinge]

anyone have a link to agood writeup comparing the stats like + weapon damage and which are better

[twin spear]

i tried looking it up and the only thing i can find is someone said to put it on an ssd not a hdd so maybe try that but other that that i have no idea

[trail shore]

doing it already 😦 but thx for trying

[twin spear]

https://darkanddarker.wiki.spellsandguns.com/Stats this is all i can find but i would keep in mind stuff is still early stages for the game so stuff is bound to change and the wiki could get behind quicker

[fiery socket]

bro im going to go mentally insane from dying to teamers in the gobline caves pls fix it bro

[twin spear]

most people are friendly in caves plus teaming is allowed as long as its not preplanned

[fiery socket]

i do love getting bum rushed by 3 rogues. very friendly and fun people

[grand dew]

rogues are absolute trash

[twin spear]

there are generally five exits on caves so that means some people have to die for others to get out so people trying to Voip and team up with randoms mid game is likely so that they can get out just play careful and you should be fine look for signs of rogues and you can avoid them

[grand dew]

since the change to matchmaking it's so many teaming rogues in GC post level 15- absolute garbage

[fiery socket]

i love getting laughed at when i die by muliple people when im playing a solo map for a reason. teaming needs to get removed its so unfair for the people that get attacked by teamers

[ornate spear]

hey, with the current upvote downvote system, i'd like to get a blue name. are the colored names bound by character, or account? i'm wondering if my friends can just keep upvoting me regardless of what character i'm on or if i have to stay on one specific character and get that character upvoted

[subtle heart]

Exactly. Useless class. Needs buff. Poison is useless. Shadow runner is useless now. Gets 1 tapped. Hide is useless with pickpocket. All abilities are just not good unless fully fully kitted

[meager olive]

6 rouges and 3 other classes in my HR so far

[grand dew]

if you need gear to not die as rogue you're bad at the game

[fiery socket]

if you play rogue at all your bad at the game

[grand dew]

also correct

[formal moon]

rogue requires you to make zero mistakes = bad at the game lol

[subtle heart]

Let me just have an ability to run at lightspeed and heal to full hp while having 80 percent damage reduction… while being able to use any weapon in the game.

[formal moon]

Hr is like nothing by mages buff ball teams and a few rogues peppered in

[median patrol]

Insane lag rn

[subtle heart]

This is because they need to remove leaderboards. And set a gear requirement for HR. But they won’t

[formal moon]

There doesn't need to be a gear requirement for HR. maybe normals, but even that is a bad idea

[ruby kestrel]

When is the next wipe please ? 🙂

[gilded flume]

there is a gear requirement, it's called level 1-14

[subtle heart]

Naked rogues teaming in the middle of the circle is the worst thing for HR

[grand dew]

I don't even do GC high roller anymore, too much teaming

[subtle heart]

Yeah it’s so bad

[devout yacht]

had some really bad fighter trying to befriend me in gc then tried killing me after he dropped a ring lol

be careful out there boys

[weak umbra]

just roll everything back to pt3 and then start again but better

[formal moon]

must be GC thing. never happens in crypts

[grand dew]

already teams established

[subtle heart]

That’s Bcs there’s alr teams of 3

[honest zephyr]

Always sucks when people either try or do stab you in the back

Felt nice to be a fully geared barbarian and people were too afraid to fight or betray me, lol

[deft cloud]

Anyone having a problem buying the game right now. 3 of my friends cannot get past the payment processing BS

[unborn plinth]

is it me or does the fighting axe for barbs have absolute dogshit range

[cursive shuttle]

For anyone who plays super high gear in normals. All that shows the rest of us is that you are bad at the game and can't fight at your own gear level. Get good you scrubs.

[indigo ginkgo]

Actually they are good, to have earned all that gear through victory.
They are griefers though, making sure no new players can get ahead.

[weak umbra]

okay, say it to me in the dungeon when we meet, oh you wont have time to do it after taking a shot from purple crossbow

[cursive shuttle]

They def are not good. You can play normals and easily get 120+ gold per run, buy all your gear, and continue to just hit normals and kill everyone you see.

@weak umbra Again, makes you bad.

[indigo ginkgo]

Would be interesting that when they implement the high gear score, those purple items should make those players glow purple!

[rapid carbon]

Where is the lever to release the skeleton champion in the lower floor of the north central room in goblin caves? I remember using it in the playtests but now I cannot find it.

[twin spear]

behind the stone pillar

[weak umbra]

well being dead is worse than being bad so better save some money for another green set that i will melt

[terse crystal]

blow of corruption ??? what is that dmg ?

[rapid carbon]

Thanks, I'll hunt around stone pillars next time!

[indigo ginkgo]

Meh, it blows.

[twin spear]

it applies headshot damage plus its a mix of phys from the weapon with magic from the skill so its hard to have resist for both

[terse crystal]

Feels balanced 🤣

[spark musk]

Warlock still WIP so don’t worry about balance lol

[twin spear]

it is cause the duration is only 12 seconds so if you see a warlock use it then just wait out the timer and its on cooldown

[terse crystal]

12s is kinda long

[weak umbra]

i love warlocks, especially when they use longsword and wait to riposte my hit when im hitting them in the legs like 5th time

[terse crystal]

Is warlocks supposed to be a caster not a melee ?

[copper wave]

3 people teaming in goblin caves.. so fking cringe

[ebon lion]

Both depends how you play

[graceful pecan]

Hybrid so far, more to be seen as stuff gets added

[formal moon]

You'll never be able to stop it

[weak umbra]

he is supposed to be dogshit. its only good in soloing bosses but other than that he is outranged, outdamaged and outrunned by anything

[violet pebble]

glad to see failed to connect to server quit the game still happens mid game , leading to loss of equipment anyone still experiencing this ?

[terse crystal]

Yea but from my knowledge all warlocks tend to be the ones with staffs and spell books not a sword ?

[nocturne furnace]

The game needs some optimisation. I odnt know what the last patch did, but I can't play ruins, and when someone trhows a molotov my fps dunk into the 10's. And no its not a garbage pc lol it played the game perfectly before

[twin spear]

warlocks commonly use other weapons not just in game

[lost gulch]

a common combo you see is longsword plus spellbook or crystal ball and falchion

[frail spire]

DnD warlock can be a spellblade or caster That is where it comes from

[weak umbra]

falchion+ball or book+longsword/halberd, if someone runs staff or book only he is bad

[graceful pecan]

Their starter kit only has a staff, so you will see a lot of those.

[mint oasis]

Falchion main hand and on second slot you et book eez

[terse crystal]

Blow of corruption just dont make sense to me tho .... the anti heal makes sense but plus 20 dmg is alot for a skill

[charred galleon]

its usually way more than 20.

[hollow kraken]

are there any plans to fix rogue soon?

[devout yacht]

it's increased by will i think which means it hits for like 24 standard and i've gotten it up to 33

[terse crystal]

https://tenor.com/view/damage-thats-a-lot-of-damage-jon-tron-gif-13054497

[weak umbra]

every damage skill deals a lot of damage. weakpoint, quickshot, reckless attack or anything that is meant to deal damage. +20 from boc is not that good

[graceful pecan]

Boc also gets the headshot multiplier

[charred galleon]

yo, divine strike sucks! hold up!

[twin spear]

rogue is not broken they are glass cannons so while they can deal alot of damage quick they die in one or two hits themselves and that includes in pve

[twin thistle]

hi guys, srry but where can i download the game?? is no more available on steam :v

[devout yacht]

it's actually NASTY what are you talking about lol
20 damage on top of a 60 damage attack from a falchion headshot ain't weak

[charred galleon]

ive been one shot in good kit by boc before

[graceful pecan]

It's gets better with magic damage but still probably a meme build at best

[quaint gale]

Falchion is buggy though

[devout yacht]

but they don't though, takes 3 or 4 longsword attacks to kill them while they're stabbing you 12 times lol

[empty sun]

#🔗links no it is currently not back on steam

[twin spear]

ive played enough of all classes to know this isnt true

[lost gulch]

true i had a solo rogue tank 5 blue halberd headshots and live also had BoC on for the first hit

[main garden]

is the arming sword bugged? seems to always hit me despite me seeing the edge of the blade far from my body

[weak umbra]

not saying its weak, just comparing it to other damage skills.

[devout yacht]

you lie

@weak umbra oh ok true

[twin thistle]

ok, where is then??

[terse crystal]

druid would be awesome

[devout yacht]

darkanddarker.com

[graceful pecan]

#🔗links ⬅️

[twin thistle]

i see, thanks

[grizzled adder]

Hey guys do you think farming Normal inferno bosses is any worth ? did it once and loot was very meh , but Hr is too hard for our group

[terse crystal]

You know what would be awesome if they had a duel system ! Fight one v one for gold or something

[twin spear]

the loot from normal inferno bosses can be good sometimes but they are much faster to kill than HR so base it off time it takes to kill it

[terse crystal]

Stakes type of duel system

[grizzled adder]

Might need to try more , even goldpile felt kinda bad at the time

[willow quest]

In a lot of the art, the game depicts parties of 4-5, would this ever be a possibility in the future of the game?

I know solos and trios is where it's at right now, but there is always the idea of larger parties. I think it would be chaotic but lead to less pressure to play "we must have x, y, z, because they compliment each other" and allow more diverse party compositions

[twin spear]

dont forget luck potions they help a ton

[gaunt hemlock]

vendors are so frustrating never selling anything you want and the alchemist only selling 3 pots per reset

[grizzled adder]

oh yeah true

[steel torrent]

They answered in a dev qna that it's not something they are considering anytime soon / don't have the functionality for and it would be an endeavour

[devout yacht]

they refresh every 30mins. You can pop over to your other classes to restock

[willow quest]

Oh, really? That's sad... Is there a link to this qna so I can see what they said/wrote, if it's no trouble? thank you for the reply

[twin spear]

https://youtu.be/X_nfwPZlwJ8?si=miTkvVJ8IArtVfB2

[brisk lava]

Ppl will literally say anything to nerf a class they hate lmao man was hitting arms

[willow quest]

thank you!

[warped raven]

yo how do we ban liberal men from playing this game, the amount of weakness in these lobbies is unreal

[arctic sail]

Does dark enhancement still not work on warlock?

[grave arrow]

no dark magic in the game yet

[median pulsar]

when druid release?

[copper wave]

so when you look down and cant interact with a rangers trap how do you get out of it

[devout yacht]

you wait it out

[twin spear]

ive never had that issue it sounds like a bug

[trail shore]

Hi guys !
Im having this issue in the game instalation " Failed to update pakchunk300- "
does anyone know how to fix it ?

[rain briar]

what is the counter to holy strike?

[somber prawn]

do about something about that fucking party bug

[thorny reef]

ADD A FIST CLASS LIKE A BRAWLER.

[wicked linden]

yes so they can be ranger food

[thorny reef]

classes have their counters so yea ig

[graceful pecan]

For D&D that would be Monk most likely

[somber prawn]

3rd fucking time trying so go in with my team.. and we keep spawned separatly. What is this joke?

[amber nest]

it's god telling you to man up and solo in crypts

[agile shoal]

They need to add quests/objectives before adding more classes imo

[vivid trail]

Just run barbarian or warlock lmao

[thorny reef]

ok i get it but imagine FIST COMBOS AND STUFF

[lime scarab]

at GC HR people are lob teaming... so the stronguest makes a faction and dominate the map. so fun right? there should be no way of knowing who's going into the raid, fight the pre teaming and lob teaming with one move

[vivid trail]

why go HR? Normal GC is such a better map and people often run full kits

[lofty sapphire]

that would be like monk

[foggy grail]

im sure the monk will have something along those lines

[lime scarab]

also people got the idea that HR GC are not for pvp, only pve... got a map full of rats against me

[thorny reef]

ADD MONK

[golden pasture]

Add a Witcher class

[vivid trail]

yep HR GC is for mining and PVE

[lofty sapphire]

They probs will but warlock and druid need to be finished

[lime scarab]

rat mindset rat behavior

[vivid trail]

A potion-based class would be pretty cool

[golden pasture]

Maybe an executioner class

[sly owl]

I love clearing a whole room and then my game freezes and revers4s time back 5 minutes into the game.. Thats cool.. It's like i get to play ever game twice..

[trail shore]

Hi guys !
Im having this issue in the game instalation " Failed to update pakchunk300- "
does anyone know how to fix it ?

[grand dew]

awesome, 6 rogues in GC high roller, trash

[left robin]

does anyone know why my game isnt loading and only black screening?

[ebon lion]

Pope of Rats disagrees

[median pulsar]

sorry to displese you mr rattagus the 3rd

[grand dew]

If Rat Pope doesn't hate rogues, he's a false Pope

[ebon lion]

Real rats spend their time pick pocketing, and forming packs in the goblin caves

[muted moss]

war maul should make the person hit get stunned/dazed

[somber raven]

Is hell supposed to have better drops from chests? Or is that only high roller?

[sly owl]

Darn tootin your Execellence

[grand dew]

Only a truly self loathing Rat can be Pope of the trash-tier bottom dwellers

[ebon lion]

I am enlightened, for I both hate and accept rogues.

All plagues have a purpose my child

[main raven]

Why is Gobbo HR unironically easier than Normal Gobbo

[thorny reef]

i hate you disgusting rogue players

[sly owl]

Spoken like someone with a squidward picture..

[grand dew]

don't hate me cause I'm beautiful

[sly owl]

Thats the thing i dont hate anyone.. Youre all beautiful sources of beautiful loot in my eyes bbygrl

[torn imp]

just checking in to see if anybody in the channel is currently crying about the game

[stuck swan]

any class that kills me is op

[grand dew]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-mouse-like-thumbs-up-rat-thumbs-up-gif-26155558

[devout yacht]

stop crying bro

[low hemlock]

wipe is when leaderboard restarts right?

[scarlet vortex]

whats the point of lanterns

[wicked linden]

they produce light

[crude prawn]

How much is a fair value for an Old Rust key ?

[true fractal]

Don’t think so

[scarlet vortex]

but torch > lantern

[low hemlock]

but wouldnt it be pointless to reset leaderboard if its not the end of wipe?

[scarlet vortex]

how long after leaderboards ended did they wipe last time

[wicked linden]

well that's where you are wrong

[hollow kraken]

@Ironmace can u make it to where arrows don't plop into inventory after getting hit with ranger?

[scarlet vortex]

it makes sense tho

[indigo ginkgo]

All Rogues need to get a starter Rapier. Being w/o one is trash!

[main raven]

where else are they gonna go

[low hemlock]

that way they have less ammo to shoot

[main raven]

I think the Short Sword would actually be a better starter weapon. I think Ranger could start with a Rapier instead.

[indigo ginkgo]

I tend to agree, as the Short Sword lets us break boxes

[graceful thorn]

What is cobalt ingot worth?

[wicked linden]

not much

[delicate furnace]

To sell them

[dense nexus]

so sick that magic missile hits around walls

[willow quest]

Hello! I have a question... its so blurry on my dark and darker despite max (??) Settings... maybe I am doing it wrong. What should I be doing?

[wicked linden]

ur bio makes me uneasy

[willow quest]

as it should

[elfin iron]

So...Salamanders or Ultramarines

[dense nexus]

i just wish ironmace had any clue how to design a game

[obtuse harness]

Im kinda hoping the Warlock summon gonna be like a phantom that he can cast at people. Like target a player like Judge and the phantom goes for that target. obv with normal mob life like a skele and if caster gets to far it despons

[willow quest]

sallies

no more questions >~<

[charred pilot]

does +1all cuirass sell for much

[compact solstice]

slaanesh or nurgle?

[somber prawn]

sisters of twilight

[indigo ginkgo]

starting Rogue w/o a sword is like being a muppet

[twin spear]

if green around 200-300 if blue 300-350 if purple 400

[formal moon]

they're literally doing great lol. The worst thing is not being on steam

[charred pilot]

Tyvm

[uncut bobcat]

so i see demon dongs in high roller have elctricity on their backs. if you hit that section of them will it hurt you just like the skeletons with the eletric shields?

[gaunt hemlock]

why are the vendors not sellingspell books

[compact solstice]

yes, it's on their collar i think

[halcyon gale]

early access btw

[graceful storm]

thats the way most 15+ lobbies are now that they made the player pool harder

[viscid hamlet]

yo i think this gameg should be on steam.... would literally 10x the players and get 9+ reviews, would bne the hottest thing on there for weeks.... this is basic come on get on steam

[graceful storm]

in the regular dungeon too

[warm rune]

Can we please get rid of the longbow slow already its so stupid

[limber badge]

They would love to be on steam, steam has not let them

[sly owl]

Servers are misbehaving rn

[willow quest]

for real though, I dont know what's wrong... It's really strange...

[subtle heart]

have you tried glasses

[willow quest]

Its not an issue with other games....

But yes I do need them eventually ahaha

Not an issue on my other games though. Even recently updated drivers

[zinc kraken]

you try temporal AA ? and at least 100% resolution?

[devout yacht]

try turning up anti aliasing

[willow quest]

At 200 ...

[grave arrow]

well thats part of your issue

[willow quest]

I have it down to 154 now...

[fiery socket]

did they remove the old rusty key treasure pile

[indigo ginkgo]

Asta Lasagna Babies! Time to move on until the next patch.

[uncut bobcat]

why?

[golden grove]

NEW MATCHMAKING SUCKS

[winged prawn]

Remove all weapon enhancement abilities until weapons are balanced, Remove spear from ranger, Remove double jump, Remove invis from every class except rogue (including potions) Remove all stacking abilities/buffs, WIPE THE GAME

[bleak zinc]

[fiery socket]

whats the point of a old rusty key if its shit and a bard can open it with a song

[wicked linden]

so basically make it to where skill doesnt exist

[winged prawn]

Do you think you are a serious person?

[granite mulch]

you're weird bro, stop typing

[celest halo]

what hes trying to say is the game is to hard

[formal moon]

all L takes

[dense nexus]

MAN I FCKIN LOVE HOW AI BLOCK ALL YOUR MOVEMENT!!!! SO DAMN GREAT PLAYING A GAME WITH 1997 PHYSICS!

[winged prawn]

Normal responses from the smooth brains kek

[fiery socket]

looks like somebody got gang banged by 16 skeltons

[modern halo]

umm are you implying we should walk through them??

[brisk lava]

Gen chat skill issuers bleeding into game discussion yikes

[dense nexus]

ever hear of like..a push option

[granite mulch]

average weirdo on discord kek

[analog lintel]

Look at this dude acting like he was super smart and understand the game

[inner hollow]

question, if i run into a guy and voip team with him is that against any rules? guy in voip was just yelling about how i was gonna get banned lol

[winged prawn]

No its not against the rules.

[brisk lava]

Just don't get stuck 4 hed

[trim ravine]

just jump over the spiders buddy

[modern halo]

go back to cod lol

[dense nexus]

i know its brand new and not something from decades ago

[winged prawn]

You understand that the vast majority of melee combat games have Push, Jab, riposte, parry, block right?

[modern halo]

you realize this game doesnt and hasnt in all its play tests right? its a skill issue, get good

if you are dying by getting trapped to ai, its time to train more on mob mechanics....

[wicked linden]

let's remove 90% of the games CORE mechanics to cater for you because your needs and wants are so important to everyone

[dense nexus]

no, these people dont. they think any valid criticism of this 1997 coding is bad+

[winged prawn]

Ahh the classic get good. Spoken by a true smooth brain. No reason in being critical of this games mediocre, basic combat amiright?

[brisk lava]

L2p issue

[trim ravine]

not every game needs to be like mordhau. I say this as someone with 1500 hours in mordhau

[modern halo]

ive been pinned plenty of times, depending on mob you can easily dodge all attacks... you are just weak dude

[pallid notch]

They game isnt meant to be some indepth turbo sweat fighting game

[fiery socket]

why do they remove so many gold piles

[winged prawn]

THis games combat in a nutshell: Outpace the enemy, hit them, run away, hit them, run away. Wow much skill guys impressive

[granite mulch]

literally no one cares what you have to say, i took a look at your history and noticed all you do is cry about how bad the game is, funny thing is, its you who is bad hahahaha KEKW

[trim ravine]

do two gold runs in gc buddy, bard gear is worthless anyway idk why you're so salty

[modern halo]

yet youre still in here

[analog lintel]

Dude is playing bard can u guys imagine ahaha

[winged prawn]

I play warlock and just phantom so im not sure what you are talking about. Play more classes than barbarian. You are too used to holding down W and Left click lolol

[modern halo]

but i play rogue/ ranger... even says ranger next to my name tho i know you lack the ability to read... its okay, keep feeding me gear i bet your lock is trash

[winged prawn]

Of course you do lolololol.

[prime tinsel]

At least it's not wizard

[cold kraken]

Do you guys know when the wipe will happen?

[analog lintel]

Am i crying and talking abt shit i dont even understand ?

[shell ginkgo]

Yall right. Fuck this game. Make it so you can parry and dodge. Also we should be able to save your gear at certain zones or maybe be able to use gold to level our characters. But if you die before that save zone then you lose your gold but you can grab it back from where you died. Perhaps make the leveling increase your stats instead of having the gear do it. And you should be at a certain level to use certain gear to balance it. Make the game 3rd person too and actually get rid of all pvp unless if you use a certain item so people are willing to fight other players

[modern halo]

you sound like a 10 yr old spamming that 'lol' how many characters do you have at lvl 15+?
my lvl 16 lock could out do you anytime but keep dreamin

[winged prawn]

Dude the game isnt hard lol, leveling a character to 20 takes a couple hours lol. Im sure now that you dont play.

[prime tinsel]

EZ mode zzzzz

[trim ravine]

if the game is easy stop complaining or go sum else

[modern halo]

so do it, how many do you have?

[weak sorrel]

Does any1 know when there resseting?

[jagged dew]

oooo just you wait till teaming is bannable in gob caves

[analog lintel]

There must be a bug because i cant find u in the leaderboard ?

[sly owl]

If the servers didnt wipe lobbies from Extreme Lag

[winged prawn]

Ahh the go somewhere else. Why be critical of a game you enjoy? So awful wanting things to improve. Im the worst.

[wicked linden]

imrpoving and just completely c hanging the game is two different things

[empty sun]

@winged prawn @granite mulch @modern halo keep it civil please

[modern halo]

bruhh im dead

[trim ravine]

insulting mods smh

[analog lintel]

Nah ur getting attacked because ur legit arguing like everyone is stupid and ur the only one that understand things

[wicked linden]

band this r word

[modern halo]

bruh why are you so damn salty, who hurt you? a rogue? ill beat him up for ya

[wicked linden]

im gonna go grab taco bell anyone want some

[trim ravine]

im gonna wipe the floor with both of you with a shitty ass castillon I nabbed for 40g

[modern halo]

you like bear traps? i bring 6 just for scum like you.... and myself... when i play rouge lol

[trim ravine]

ranger calling people scum would be crazy if us rogues weren't as bad as you

[weak sorrel]

Anyone know when reset is ?

[modern halo]

nah we are worse, no doubt lol but in all reality rangers are trash in the wrong hands a kid could literally nab a kill w zero experience/ skill as rogue thoo

[bleak zinc]

skill issue get better kill noobs all day to feel dopamine

[willow marsh]

man I have tried and tried to figure this game out lol I have a good run or two and then boom shit after shit haha

[trim ravine]

you gotta keep banging your head on the wall until it doesn't hurt anymore, then it's smooth sailling. taking off is the most energy intensive part of every flight 😉

[willow marsh]

gotcha take off all my clothes and charge got it

[rapid arrow]

if u team in gc ur pathetic as fuck

[trim ravine]

legit never seen teamers in gc, are you guys just getting pinched and thinking it's teamers?

[fluid oxide]

The rogue class is like the special ed inclusivity program for this game.

[foggy stirrup]

ive tried looking it up but cant find, is there specific times when the circle moves?

[rapid arrow]

nope for sure teaming just had a full purple rogue on voip[ with a full purple barb in gc hr going "here he is, here is the ranger who shot me" then dropped him loot as well when i was spectating this game is full of trash kids now who need to team since skill seems to be a big issue in this game for most

[trim ravine]

you deserve it for playing ranger

[fluid oxide]

Ive seen teamers but they usally aint to good. you can drop one or two before they get you since they are mostly nakeds in gob caves. but the swarm gets wacky

[formal moon]

There is nothing that will ever be done about GC teaming. It's player behavior , short of removing voip. Nothing can be done

[scarlet umbra]

i saw a geared barb in an otherwise pepega lobby so i teamed some randy fighter to 2v1 him

[twin spear]

from how much ive played it seems to start moving about every 2 minutes

[rapid arrow]

ah yes the broken class no melee strength one hittable by most classes grey weapons main ability bugged for 6 patches now no fix easiest weapon in the entire game to dodge so strong and op

[fluid oxide]

Even before they re added voip teaming was a thing. It was just ALOT more trust based lol.

[formal moon]

Exactly, Nothing can be done about it

[fluid oxide]

Also fuck that rogue being able to 2-3 shot almost anything in the game its goofy ah they need to nerf that damage buffing shit.

[twin spear]

teaming itself is not against the rules the issue is when you have premade teams forcing themselves into the same lobby VoIP is a thing so you can have these unique interactions with other players so be friendly and work with whoever you want in game but dont manipulate matchmaking so that you and your 2 friends can get into the same lobby to roll people who dont have the level of teamwork you do

[formal moon]

Rogue is literally fine. Every class can 1 shot them, ofc they can one shot as well

[viscid hamlet]

how do i automate selling spam? control v enter 2 much for me

[alpine saffron]

Ranger class should be default elf type A and renamed Legolas class. Because at level 1 you're basically Orlando Bloom right out of the gate. You can Quickshot anyone 3 times with the starter bow right out of the box and win 9/10 engagements w/o even trying - calmly put the crosshairs on the targets head and press Q; then, "TWANG TWANT TWAT" target dead. SO easy even a caveman could do it!!!

[fluid oxide]

Yeah but the fact that a naked rogue with no gear buffs and a green dagger can 3 tap a full purple fighter is goofy as fuck. watching in the shadows as a solo rogue domes a entire team is goofy

[trim ravine]

dont hit me with yo reddit ass smug lil "ah yes" bro shut tf up

[modern halo]

no he cant.

[gritty mica]

Id rather have the damage and hp from going orc

[formal moon]

They cannot. So there is that.

[rapid arrow]

? lmao what man this community is full of morons

[brisk lava]

Imagine dying to a naked rogue as a fighter in full purple lmao yikes

[pearl hornet]

[sharp osprey]

Does anyone actually like the healing changes? All it has done for me is make pvp more frustrating if you're not playing ranger or cleric

[fluid oxide]

Spectating rogue mains is a spectacle. Im to poor to afford full purple since im not a loser who farms singapore.

[formal moon]

I'm convinced 100% anyone crying about rogue and not wizard / ranger / bard. Is actually just terrible at the game

[scarlet umbra]

its literally just made playing without a cleric 100x more frustrating and thats it

[brisk lava]

Might want to clean your glasses

[formal moon]

Affording full purple is literally just not being awful at the game. Everything is cheap

[fluid oxide]

Bruh wizards are not as good as folks hype em up to be and bard if you die to them its your own fault. you can hear invisibility song from a mile away. ranger just forces you to not fight them.

[twin spear]

this is one of the main issues for sure progression is too quick but im sure this will fix when quests are in the game

[brisk lava]

Why do new and poor players always have the most aids opinions about the game

[formal moon]

You clearly only play gc. Infinite buffs is insanely busted in team play and wiz can 1 shot literally anyone

[fluid oxide]

You can buy a shitty purple set for 100-300 per gear slot sure but if you want something thats decent for your class and has good rolls they cost upwards of 800 which if you have 800 gold for gear slot you need to take a breather from the game.

[trim ravine]

800g for gear is fine, that's four good gc runs if you don't kill anyone with good gear to sell

[formal moon]

I have several +3 all sets and I didn't buy any of them. You are just bad at the game / a goblin cave gamer

[fluid oxide]

Womp womp just play warlock easy counter to melee and ranged. just phase step and 1 tap with a blue/purple bardiche corrupted blow easy.

[scarlet umbra]

and what did you bring in to win those sets

[trim ravine]

he went in naked for a start, like everyone does?

[formal moon]

Purples and wep dmg + chaos of multiple teams fighting. 95% of getting gear is just not being brainless

[scarlet umbra]

point is he was already playing with +3 all the moment anyone else was

[fluid oxide]

"in order to get rich you need to invest millions into this anyone can do it if you have millions in starting capital".

[formal moon]

Yall are just coping instead of improving your game mechanics.

[trim ravine]

pretty sure that not even people with supporter version of DaD get millions of gold first thing in the game, afaik everyone starts at 0

[fluid oxide]

Im saying that wizard bard and ranger are not that bad and rogues headshot + out of invisibility damage buffs are out of wack.

[formal moon]

And I'm saying you're wrong. Rogues are not even a slight problem, where as having infinite buffs, dps that can 2 shot anyone (ranger), and fireballs that can 1 shot anyone are far more problematic

[modern halo]

im saying every class has a purpose wiz, ranger, rogue are dps as well as barb (buddy of mine was hitting +280 to head w axe) so ppl need to stop being salty when they play cleric/ fighter/ warlock and get clapped to someone meant to do dmg

[fluid oxide]

Dude sees a ranger and a wizard and runs at em like he's on the beaches of Normandy.

[trim ravine]

imo no class is out of balance rn

[formal moon]

Mate you're just coping. Get good bud. Rogue has a 3 second window to get a kill and they can only kill soft targets. Then they just die to anyone/anything

[frail spire]

A rogue that gear gaps you just kills you w almost 0 counterplay. Thats the issue

[fluid oxide]

I think your just a bad rogue lol. I dont think you have ever spectated a good rogue even you probably just alt f4 when you die to a ranger after running head first into em lol.

[formal moon]

Light orb and Having a team are the counter play to rogue. @fluid oxide I'm ranked 300 rogue in the game right now and have more gear and kills than you probably have on every char combined

[sacred knoll]

i think if you play this game long enough then the current state of high-gear fighting is just silly. wizards two tapping everything with zap is very boring. rangers and barbs basically killing in 2-3 hits is boring.
"a rogue that gear gaps you just kills you w almost 0 counterplay" this is just the case with any gear gap? lol
i wish the game was as skill based as people make it out to be but it's really not

[frail spire]

Yea a few classes have a counter play, but you realize the vast majority here dont have a light orb wizard

Like I get you, high lvl pvp rogue not so OP

But the vast majority of ppl are not doing that

they dont all have a wiz/bard on their team

[fluid oxide]

just because you grind leaderboard does not make you good stinky. any ol chap with no job and to much time on their hands can start grinding.

[formal moon]

The vast majority here are goblin cavers that are playing a game mode that was never intended and they'll cry that juicers are in the lobby if it's not a rogue or teams

[frail spire]

Your right man

Im just saying theres near 0 counterplay for most players against a rogue w advantage

[jagged dew]

"just because your on the leaderboard for being the best doesnt mean your good" what in the copium

[ivory cedar]

lol, who are the devs going to listen to? the vast majority or you?

[vague sorrel]

everyone should listen to me, give me loots f ree loots plz

[scarlet umbra]

lb is games played not skill

[formal moon]

Well I have a job and play for like 2 hours short of the weekend. Where as you'll just make excuses forever and be bad forever. @ivory cedar any goblin caver's opinion is invalid. As it was never intended and can never be balanced

[sacred knoll]

i would like to see stats of how many people only play goblin caves versus duos versus trios.

[jagged dew]

So then what is skill if not experience in a game thats gear based

[scarlet umbra]

the literal skill and mechanics? lmfao

[formal moon]

If you're a goblin cave main. You're always gonna suffer cheesy bs. The game will never be balanced around solos

[olive lotus]

The price we pay for not having friends who play this game ✊ 😔

[formal moon]

Tbh, the worst thing they did was add GC. Because it invited a wave of newbs that cry instead of improve. Where they could have used the dev time to polish the classes and create a real first floor

[sacred knoll]

christ give it a break, even i play trios and can find a solo FFA mode fun, get over yourself

[formal moon]

It's just bad for the game. They could have added a solo mode anytime and those same players would still be here with less crying about unavoidable player behavior

[vague sorrel]

lol honestly can you imagine playing a game that was only multiplayer(TEAMS) and you had to play it solo, good god, i wonder if anyone will ever make a game like that. GC was created, therefore meant to be, if the designers didnt want it, it wouldnt be there

[scarlet umbra]

yeah maybe but its nice to just farm for some gold easily

[formal moon]

They literally said they didn't want it.

[viscid hamlet]

my opinions are good and everyone else bad

[limber badge]

I disagree

[formal moon]

Just some of yall don't have objective arguments to make and thus get ripped apart with simple logic

[vague sorrel]

@formal moon if they didnt want it, they could have removed it. if they said they didnt want it, it means they failed at game designing. [=

[sacred knoll]

people whine about anything, if there was no solo mode we'd just have people whining about the state of trios. you just get a bigger influx of solo only players because (we need numbers to prove it) they don't have friends to vent to
"muh logic"

[formal moon]

It's called compromise. You're short sided view is laughable.

[limber badge]

Where did they say this?

[vague sorrel]

compromise for lack of a releasing a polished game, compromise because they didnt finish their job and had to compromise to accomodate the public for their lack

[torpid radish]

Sweatys ruin all games its just the nature of things. The more they try to balance it the more they will make the game less enjoyable until the player base dwindles and the game dies.

[formal moon]

At least whining about trios is something that can be worked on. There is literally nothing they can do about gc teaming

[torn imp]

🤓

[formal moon]

Casual features have killed more games than sweats. Look at the state of WoW, runescape, and any other casual multi-player game

[torpid radish]

Teaming in GC is allowed, Pre-game Teaming meaning queing at the same time as your friends in hopes to gain an advantage over other players is not.

[formal moon]

You're right, but gl catching that

[twin spear]

teaming in crypts is allows under the same circumstance as GC

[lost gulch]

if you play rogue and load into low roller gob caves with all purples you need to go outside and get a job

[vague sorrel]

i have a job and i do this , what does this mean then ?

[limber badge]

You've broken the simulation

[sonic lagoon]

rangers are cancer and will kill this game in the long run

[fluid oxide]

Quit your job and find a new one damn you!!! also to the guy below me rangers are honestly super trash

[formal moon]

Juicers who don't care about rank will low roller