#faustian-bargain
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That’s the best thing
Honestly if your bringing serious gear into norms and you can’t kill a player goblin with something other than melee it says a lot about you
The number of times Timmies have given up and pulled out a skill ranger or something
only people suffering from this is new players
I see only vets complain about this
Go to every streamer and they say they’ll hate it
Except seriously soapy and Pete
love the mechanic 👍
becouse they dont want player retention
duh
did they really shadow removed the pirate ?
yes
turbo cringe
at least announce it
made me waste 2 hours of my day trying to get a pirate
it does feel kinda hard to fight player puppeted pve sometimes
Like Im not shocked that its a player, I can tell before it even comes near me but the jump headshots feel kinda annoying
even with optimal plays, I get headshot by some random goblin or spend 4 minutes fighting him with a ranged weapon 
Well the goblin swordsman is way too good. You can somehow bhop with it. For the pirate they just needed to make it not the fasted entity underwater. They prolly working on it
I’ve seen most streamers say they do not hate it I feel like
I find pirate swordman & goblin warrior the only 2 playable mobs, now both are not accessible for me, lol
did they remove the pirate?
Yeah I havent been able to get it so far today idk why
so is goblin the play now for the quest?
bro
To piss u off
I cant even get the goblin now lol
It’s rage bait. Don’t fall for it
It’s lowkey good so that people aren’t just spamming goblins in goblin cave all the time. Cuz that sword goblin is busted
it’s so fun
overhead attack hitting hs on people thru a door
the method when you hear someone is to open the door and stop so they hear the sound, come close to inspect then boom jump and swing twice into the door hitting them
Crab was fun day one until they nerfed speed
GC - Forced to be a Spider Mummy/ Zombie
Maelstrom - Forced to be a Pirate Archer
Frost - Forced to be a Skeleton
Ruins - Absolutely Random.
Leveling your Rep fucking ruins your experience and questing ability.
Just learned this the hard way holy shit no more goblin caves
Level your affinity so you can play as a 1hp spider mummy.
Yeah first it was shitty ass pirate archer and I didn’t even think about the spider mummy 😭 my quest has hit a hard wall
Shit pirate archer, hatchet goblin, zombie, spider mummy, etc.
Whoever chose the affinity and mobs for this is stupid at the end of the day.
0 affinity for Goblin Warrior, and then days of questing to play as unplayable mobs.
if all you're getting is spider mummy, go crypts and play around shadows. i've found players struggle to kill you just long enough to get three good chest hits in
so 30 damage a game if that?
a bit more than that, maybe 50? 50 for one spider mummy life is ok
i would argue that makes it better
Spider mummy needs to be straight up removed from the bargain pool. Especially if they’re not even gonna let a brother be a nightmare spider mummy
No antiquated coin drops is crazy too
what would replace spider mummy? it would need to be something kinda equal to it without being too strong this early
Death beetle maybe
idk, i think a player controlled death beetle would be very strong. too strong to add? probably not, but definitely too strong to replace spidermummy unless it needed higher rep to spawn as
I don't think player should control fly mobs
What are you honestly even saying

you and boogieman think spidermummy should be removed, what would replace it?
I mean we have evil eye and nobody uses it
i think developers goal make this mode unplayeble unfunny and rollback it
Spider mummy pot. If you are killed then you respawn in pot so they need to destroy pot to get reward and stop you
You don't want to do 5x Sets of daily quests to play as a 1Hp spider mummy?
spiffer mummy is goated i get more kills with that then the remaining water map mobs
king of third party
no one sees you ever
and if they do its 50% chance they wanna be friends
rangers are easiest to kill as spiffer
i am pleading our case in the CC disc tho this is bullshit
at least let us pick if every mob is doomed to suck ass with shadow nerfs
Spider mummy doesn't even compare to the pirates.
It literally has 1hp.
Who are you killing? AFK players after biting them for 10 minutes?
i love how they removed pirate from the pool without saying anything 😍
I love how they are posting the arena information in private discords and and in pms
I love how they constantly talk about communicating better but they literally never do.
I love that half the shit in the patch notes literally was never changed.
just when i was finally starting to enjoy the game again
no fun allowed here. only sdf vision
On saturday, some peoples will unlock the shark
Not me tho, the 500 damage quest is too long
is it really this saturday?
nah ill only be 32 sadly
wish I started sooner
White shark is 42 and unless i done my calculs wrong, if someone gain 4 affinity every day from the first day, on saturday they should be at 44
yea
i get shark on saturday 🙂
I mean i only do hr so i have time till its brought into that
The thing is it looks like you can’t control an aggroed mob so even at 42 affinity i think you need to be very lucky to get the shark
Since they can aggro from very far
I dont want shark I want axe thrower
Where we not supposed to make suggestions?
Here is my suggestion, at 50 affinity we get to unlock the goblin girl skin and unlike the lizard, in this one you can’t wear shoes
i got a clip of a guy telling me not to report him and saying no one will ban him when he was cheating and griefing us can i show it to a mod and get him banned or what
Yo shark would be raw asf
How r u guys even getting the damage cuz I just get rolled every time
is*
i’m not playing anymore. bargain and watermap is butt cheeks, trios focused gameplay.
Are we winning
Dm me lol
I wanna see
Starting is hard
why am i only getting skeleton at 14 affinity all maps
Don’t think I’ve seen a single person LIKE this feature so far
If you genuinely like this feature, your probably hot dog ass at PvP
Who decided that?
I like 1v3ing as a mage buffed goblin warrior in squire lobbies. Its so funny
Not healthy for the game but still funny
is there a limit per day?
people crying about this are horribleat the game tbh literally dodge the first swing and kill its not hard
625 damage from quests per day
They reset daily
k thx u
370 movespeed goblin begs to differ
If u aggro mage it will literally turbo buff u
Lvl 23 all I get is spider mummy,
It gets worse not better people
fr
I wish it let u respawn as spider mummy lol, respawn from the pot until its broken type thing
Would be sick
Acting like Goblins aren't affected by inertia and Elite's are practically impossible to dodge cause of swing speed:
You get dogged on in PvP and now you resort to using this stupid mechanic literally nobody asked for to team or be annoying
Like literally yesterday I was being 3v1'd by 2 goblins and a fighter
In a norms game SURE
But I had gear
And so did the fighter
And they chased me through like 6 doors and compeltely left the fighter JUST to focus me
Skill issue
My bad, I can DOG walk that plate fighter in gear but the moment 2 player controlled goblins start double hitting me I'm ass?
I think you got bricks for brains if you chalk that up to a lack of skill
That’s absolute gold, game is for complete jokes and fun. If you don’t wanna get trolled by mobs go hr and still get trolled by a lock agroing full rooms. Pick your poison
yeah no shot im getting 500 damage with spider mummys and pirate archers
pirate archer punch aint that bad
its def not terrible but it only does like 15-20 damage no?
idk i think it does more? i could be wrong but i only played it once or twice
yeah im not too sure either i just know the pirate swordsmen were cracked lmao
Feels bad that qe cant use nightmares so 90% of them are useless
I’ve juggled a wiz that couldn’t cast mm bc of the kb
Pretty funny
okay you might be onto something
is pirate swordsman removed?
how does the affinity even work
This mechanic will kill the game once and for all lol
Collected a group of friends to get back on, we played for almost a week and lost multiple raids of multiple kills + boss completion to a horde of jumping nightmare goblins, they all quit and haven’t been back since. Fucking sucks
Should try to get good instead of crying
Just got spawnkilled by skelly crossbowman when I went faust
how does getting different mobs work? is it affinity based?
DID THEY CHANGE FAUST? I used to get pirate every time on water map. Now I keep getting skellies.
I have almost only gotten skeletons lol
Fire sdf
crazy something so fun is making everyone cry so much
unfortunately a lot of the players who never stopped playing Dark don't play the game for fun.
What is the point of this chat?
to figure out a way to make this balanced
how do i get to be something other than a skeleton
how do i get affinity lmao
dealmaker quests
me too bro finna kms
that or pirate archer
improve my son
just remove spider holyyy out of 10 goblincaves i got 7 spiders
High rep btw 20+ and still getting absolute garbage
Such a waste of time right now
Pro tip: only kill the mobs you don’t want to be for your XP to reduce the pool of badmobs
how the fk are they expecting us to do 500 damage as a spider
The 500 quest is chalked now
They killed it for anyone who wasn't already grinding rep day 1. It will take forever to build it now.
Absolute waste of time
what did they do
@clever bolt touched me :/
say what
SDF got hungry 😭😭😭
What happened?
It seems they changed rep requirements upwards a lot. Yesterday I was getting goblin warrior or pirate every time. Now after ten runs, only goblin axeman or skeleton
I promise it took me 6 hours to get 500 dmg on spider
U need to jump hit people during team fights
Only que water map to avoid spiders
Or learn every spider pot location
Go water map, kill skeletons on bottom left map, you will usually either get a pirate, archer skeleton, or crab if you kill all the normals
Or you will have enough for 2 rolls
Yep
The rug tech tbh

If your on spear skelly it becomes much easier
Only a couple of those to kill
Spear skelly is so much easier and better than normal skele but tbh that affinity system is wack. Considering it seems like you roll on the chart of what you can get and the lower mobs have more chances than the higher tier
DELETe spider mommy its dog ASS
all the lvl 20ish faustian mobs are shit
Nah
Lvl 20? @lime glade
Pirates op
rep i mean
Ice map is solid at 20 too
Just gotta jump shot on spider
It hits like 27
If you hit foot its way less
More consistent hits too
Just play trios and follow a team till they get into a fight
To get spider dmg
Kill the skellys
Can someone pin that lol
Kill all the skelly bottom left
RIP the best new feature in two years
Dark and darker is not an easy game
The last quest is supposed to be hard
Ive been telling yall how to fix it
The rugs technology
Kill the mob you dont want to be
Pro were just getting lucky and someone else was killing them for you
How does the bargin thing work?
Kill 7 mobs and die in a normal pvp game
Np
what is this channel for?
Telling people to kill all the skeletons in bottom left of water map apparently
Atleast 40x a day
I do this and the only mob I can get is pirate ever
A fate worse than death.
bruh that's just ridiculous
Its always the hell runs too
If you have multiple lives u can aggro the skelly mage and have it kill the spiderpot
And spiders
did they remove pirate from the pool of things i spawn as? I killed all the skeletons and skele archers on the map and it spawns me as a crab still lmao
ye
No it still exists
havent gotten pirate on water map 6-7 times with 12 affinity either
Mabye they made it higher
Im 34 affinity
imagine being the person that opens gold door tho. you just faced with a skele instantly
Spider should be like 6 affinity
more like 0
Mabye
spder again
wtf
sdf is a premade troll i swear
so funny to get 620dmg to enemies with classes either beeing slow as fuck or no range because the full animation is locked or u literally do no dmg
and again
remove this shit @storm radish
best remove the entire servers and use competent ones
DELETE
now im feed up, 16 times spawn as a dumb spider, gonna cheese that out if sdf is to stupid to fix this
im pretty sure the mob you get depends on your affinity with the dealmaker lol
im not on 0 and had other days spawning as gobbo or pirate, occasionally some bad shit too. today with 18? literally just trash
I think 18 unlocks spider
unlocks, but not like 100% always spider or ibargain weapon master race now?
Friday I get to be the cocka
Best bet is water map
Or gc
And learn spider spawns to break pots
gc spider only, water map 80% spear, 20 archer
Hell and frost hell are also viable
If struggling super hard
Just more time consuming then water and gobby
Per run
At 45 I will become passifist
And hang out with people
Pet landshark rp
Or try and do boss as mini boss
Does anyone know when they will put the FB back in HR?
hopefully never
Doubt they will, it’s best to just keep in norms. HR mobs are too op
normal mobs are op with the combo and jump that always hits
Combo only viable until affinity 18 then they are screwed
i know nothing about this feeture only that it needs to be its own mode or gone out the game bruh
Lol
The only mob worth a shit rn if you want to get quests done is goblin warrior. Even goblin axeman is terrible since it loses all momentum when attacking in the air
Wolf spider axeman pirates are best
Spider is good in the right circumstances
LOL I FEEL YOU
next time I get mad at someone I'll tell them to press G irl
how good is the pirate axeman
noone knows because they cant farm it with all these spiders and axe goblins they get
faustian bargain is p much dead I think
This is pointless tbh its just for the trolls
I guess I don't play water map ya? 320 MS and I get out swam by pirate. so fuckn stupid
ice caverns kobolds are best. around that level
Gotta pay attention and fight
holy shit I never thought of that before....
Paying attention in the game is hard yeah
But I see all the people coming from a mile away
In water map

even the players unrender not too far away. biggest kap ever
Just look lol
They render close enough for you to react
Just hop in the jetstream if your having a bad time
Free reset
and do what against his higher swim speed? jump in stream and jerk it till i can extract?
Also alot of 2h wep just 2 shot every mob that can be faust

I think pirates need slightly less hp
For faust
If anything
If your getting ganked in the water tho your just not paying attention
ah yes, just not paying attention. When obstructions to line of sight exists and how close somebody has to be to hear them, def an attention issue. Even if doing 360s when moving from place to place, while your doing something you can get caught. Saying that is either disingenuous or you don't spend time doing anything in the water.
Should always try and fight the pirate on water surface or land too
On the surface of the water you have no action speed penalty too
I play alot alot of watermap lol
I look around d every 30 sec or so and dont really have problems seeing them
Especially because they look so out of place
Pirates got shadow patched no?
They are no longer in the pool
when do I stop getting spider mummy lmao
whats the lowest affinity someones gotten pirates lately?
Add nightmare pirates so I can annoy the shit out of farmers
Never 🙂
Welcome to the club you can’t leave
What i need to gain FAUSTIAN option? kill people?
you need to complete dealmaker quests
how do i stop getting the regular skeleton
bc its impossible to do damage as them
I managed to faustian bargain wolf once...which was amazing, they have an ability for both dodging left and right
Kill mobs break barrels and "I think" your eq loot p.much anything that gives AP in HR
the only quet of dealmaker is deal damage being faustian, so this is not the correct answer
Completing dealmaker quests gives better Faustian mobs
And how i accumulate Faustian "tokens" in a game?
thankyou

should not be able to take cave troll agro with bargain
is the most cancer shit ive ever seen
seriously just hard griefing people if u die u just run to the boss room and change agro around rly annoying
What's the point of faustian-bargain? I haven't figured that out yet.
if u kill 10 monster in the game u can resurect in pve after death
What's in it for me? Can I still loot and escape, or just kill others and die? Just curious.
get dmg, get coins, get good gear and materials.
please note the most expensive thing I think is troll pelt at 35 coins
early on, farm faustian in goblin caves till like 10 affinity. should be good to have a few other options on the other maps.
think the highest someone can be right now is 21 affinity right? 3 a day
Which is arguably not very worth, I think
i mean if i really need a pelt i'd get one
Farming HR troll for a troll pelt is getting hard because its randomized 🙁
centaur tail is 40 lmao
for some reason
max today is 36, 4 per day
they need to fix this shit im getting spider mummy 9 times in a row
why does the system punish you for grinding the quests
For the trolls? haven't you seen the gear the NPC offers?
if youre stuck on spider mummy in GC you can play frost map to get cobolts, theyre worse than goblins tho
oh you can also get the frost archer which has a quick 2 hit melee attack
Wdym, like you can buy it for those coins from deal maker?
Does that mean its worse to get higher rep?
Whats the optimal rep to stop at in order not to get bad mobs
im at 24 and only mobs i get are the skeleton archer or mummy spider 🙂
after 18 you start getting spider mummys..
tough
i get the bola often, its silly
i see
actively losing my mind bc of this
play against trios, they agro less mobs
and agroed mobs you cant control
so all you get is spiders in solo mode
Why does this channel exist?
why do i keep spawning as skeleton archer at 8 affinity on the water map?
cant get pirate right now
how much affinity do you need to stop getting spider only
i've got 30 affinity and still cannot spawn as a goblin motorcycle rider, i think its bugged
you need 49 affinity to spawn as the motorcycle, you need a teammate to ride you
when is hog rider unlocked
At 67 affinity
please get rid of that shit
troll rock and cyclops mirror are 250 each
Remove this from HR
How much rep to spawn as a pregnant goblin that can spawn in a little jit goblin teammate
😼
420 rep for sure
just get a duo partner and do the goblin taunt in a dark corner
DELETE
Y
Pear is 500 gold
remember to submit suggestions so the devs can ignore them
they already removed it from HR
skill issue
anyone have a link to the list of affinity required for each mob?
It’s somewhere in here
😂
Bro couldn’t kill a mob so he changed his nickname after he lost his normals bis
I’m honestly not surprised
elite goblin swordsman with the goblin mage buff is MEAN
i like how meta to have fun with this system is to havee smurfs sitting around a certain rep otherwise you get only useless mobs
nice one SDF
Welcome to dark and darker. The only enjoyment people get is easy kills
solution is buff other mobs, more rep better / stronger mob
Is Faustian back in HR? Cuz in norms I think it's hilarious but I can see it being kind of annoying in HR tbh
more rep = bad poopy mobs
Wait, faustian bargain means we're once step closer to preggo goblins

Delete this shit
AGreed
😂
faust leveling
start slime or similar as cheap faust price
gain xp for props, mobs, player
gain faust currency accountwide by ??
use faust currency for better mob
potion faust discount if dead by 1-5 min reduce healing by 10-30%
faust emotes
faust voip
faust skill tree
faust equip
faust and fauster
and stop giving me spider mummy pls
💯
knowing ironmace never
Its more likely they make it harder to get mini bosses right after we unlock them then remove them right before we unlock them again
Sdf fill me up
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honestly its always been like that
people are just now reaching the affinity where your hard stuck as it
just play ice caves when its bad
I’ve never gotten spider before yesterday
is the bargin back in Hr?
If the sword goblins weren’t so OP then I’d be upset about the spider mummies. But literally everyone would spam the goblins if they could
what was your affinity before yesterday?
Don’t remember
I had the first 2 done
so it went up by 2
Was working on the last
I am not at my pc
oh
I will check it later
well your probably at spider affinity
or your above it
im at 30
and i get 80% spiders
Is there a chart on the wiki yet?
Gotcha
beautiful love it
parrying underwater is so fun because you can see the models connect and watch the swing still hit you in slow mo
did they make the affinity table different i spawned as an archer 7 times in a row
i heard pirates are not removed is it true ?
Pirates are not removed, it seems like the table just shows what you can get and it rolls on the table to choose the mobs. With the lower mobs having more of a chance, but probably increasing the rolls the higher you go. If you want a higher chance of pirates go to bottom left of map, kill all the skeletons and you will have 2 chances. With very little chance of skeletons if you missed any
6 spiders in a row lmow sdf fck u
spider and zombie should be deleted.
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maceman is that good?
what is this chat for?
look at the clip
that was my first time using it
im sure ill get better but its hp is high hard to dodge and can swing fast
and has a giant shield protecting it as it walks
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Gamemode good, just need some balances, nerf goblin / pirat, remove spider/zombie archer skel and add other mobs
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Archer skele in water isnt too bad
Just get above em, and let the arrows fall down, you also out kite anyone in the water
anmd press F if too close and it insta cancels
@faustians I will be on crab island as a druid
Come fine me
Find me
Us west
Ill be here for 1hr
stop the fking spider mummys bro
its so fking trash all i get is them now
terrible system
Its a roadblock for sure
Hey @reef osprey, is this like... accurate accurate? For sure this is how it works?
Ive gone from 20-32 on water map
it just means your much more and able to use it
Just killing skellys ever run
i just did todays in icecaves
The quest is not out yet tho
sorry im west
Or you mean yesterday
so my today is yesterday
Im west too
yea then our doesnt reset till 5pm
Ive been finishing my quest on water map like 3 hr
honestly i dont wanna finish my 500
but if i do
ill be able at 42 on saturday
maybe ill try your water strat
how much dmg you getting per run
Imim chillin at the crab island rn by skellys
Helping people do quest
Come find me
bet
I feel like I would spawn and be swimming for an eternity
to get to anyone as mob on water map
@reef osprey Do you konw if getting more mob xp before you die impacts the quality of mob you become?
no
it just allows you to get more than 1 respawn
if i go to hell or abyss i get 2 mobs
just cause the time it takes to get down is long enough to justify getting 2 lives
Im chillin on crab island
Take the jetstream or the zipline
Nost of the time you spawn as skelly and im just there tho
Right at skelly spawn
i was gunna kill all the skellys
but i guess i just farm for bargain and try to find you
but west is big
gunna be hard to snipe on
Preteaming is bannable
oh preteaming
Temp ban
yea that
Im just saying im gonna be chilling in this one spot on this one server
Not killing people
I do dodge quite a few arrows tho
anyone know the specifics of how the faustian bargain system works? Also every time i try to use it, i never run into anyone and my mob is abysmally slow. Any tips on how to best find and do damage more to/kill more players?
ngl
i just killed 2 people as axe thrower
i knew pirates were strong
but damn it wasnt even fair
i died to a shark tho
how much rep u have?
32 I think
Whatever max rep is
I just wanna help the people who can't get off skelly lol
Atleast until the quests come out
Idk im maxed tho
yea but its still neutral right?
how to stop spawning as a spider mummy
you dont.just go water map
fuck that map
i try 9 times in a row. they did somethink
hes talking about whats currently possible
if you did every daily thats tech max
which is 36
Kill all the skellys
ngl i just did that
I think its 32 no
no 36 forsure
Because Friday we get shark
no your only 40
yea
Has anyone tested if hunter trap dmg counts
Like put traps down die and see if the trap counts as dmg towards faust
yes you have you just prolly dont know it by its name
does anyone know the breakdown of how you qualify for a fs bargain creature when u die?
how tf are you supposed to hit people as bola
like i just killed 2 players, killed a mini boss and a few goblins and didnt get a fs bargain token
\what
Killing 10 goblins, no bargain. Maybe a certain amount of time in the map has to pass?
players give 0 exp
you need 7 goblin kills
nope
hr?
cant get faust in hr
no bro. normal.
thats impossible
unless they were assist or some werent goblins
once you get 7 goblin kills you get your first token
how can i do the bargain i die in gc to goblins and it says 0 faustian bargains available whats the prereq
wait, you can get mobs other than skeleton?
Based on XP on the match (Killing stuff looting/interacting with items)
How do I get anything better than skele?
based off of affinity with the dealmaker
(complete quest)
u guys having much luck with goblin axeman ?
axeman big sucks
i've had better runs with spider mummy than axeman
nothing worse then being a spider stuck behind a pressure plate wall
Are there data mined mob values that attribute towards Faust? Like red gobbo= 2 pts?
just hit 18 rep and now I get nothing but spider mommy, does it get better or am I forced to live the life of such a feeble creature?
Is faustian only skeleton? Can someone please explain to me?
pretty sure it goes off AP value
gotta get one kill with spider
i gotta find someone afk for that to happen lmao, even dear ol timmy would smack me
Make it to 24 affinity and no more spider mummies and pirate archers 🙌🏻 thank fucking god
It’s pirate axemen and goblin archer which isn’t as good as pirate swordsman and goblin warrior but it’s not that bad fr
attack something big and dangerous and pull it to the players. then you can hit them while they are busy. or 3rd party them nobody cares about a spider
I've succumbed to ice caves and acting as a kobold
Did they disable pirate on faustian?
no its just more rare
I have 20 rep and suddenly can't get pirate at all
Kill skeletons on bottom left to get higher chance of either crab or pirate
I spawn as a skeleton every time in G caves, is there a trick to spawning as a goblin?
Get one hit with skeleton and raise that affinity
Need to be affinity 1 for goblin
Ahhhh ok thank you! I have just been suiciding every time lol
I would press Q at an exit or the elevator in the middle and when someone gets too comfy, pop up and hit or in the middle area you can turn off all the lights as a mob
You can do it in Water map and look for an active little boat and climb on for a free hit usually, just gotta get in front of it
Nice I'll give that a shot thank you!
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is there a limit to the amount of people using faustian bargain in a game?
Yea, It won't let more than 5 people
Did you mean get 1 kill or 1 hit in order to gain 1 affinity? I hit someone as skeleton and am still just spawning as skeleton
you need 1 affinity to spawn as goblins
How do I get 1 affinity? Do I need to kill someone as a skelly?
You get daily quests with the dealmaker to do damage to players in faustian form.
Gotcha alright ty
Why am I now getting nothing but skeletons on the water map? Did they change the affinity for pirates?
They def changed I’ve tried 8 times in a row and only have gotten skeleton or skeleton archer
I’m at 8 affinity
How do you see what your affinity is?
bro i'm at affinity 19 and still got spider on goblin map, and sekeleton on new map
At the vendor, same as other affinities
Do i have to bind jump to scroll to keep permanently jumping without a swing penalty on goblin?
I saw repoze did that and I was shocked that you don't really need to wait every swing animation to keep moving
Boa slinger sick
has anyone got ice spider yet
can you spawn on ceiling?
or do you need to knock them down lmao
yeah the progression is rly poorly planned out some of these mobs cant do anything
It's so sad because this mechanic has alot of potential but the devs only wanna nerf good mobs and make this thing unplayable and will eventually remove it from the game
why would they remove it ? it's so good
On the one hand I think this whole mechanic is dumb
But on the other hand, lots of ppl love it and I like when ppl enjoy the game so W Faust I guess
so do you just not run gob caves anymore after you get 18 cause i only get spider mummy
One would imagine that spider mummies would give you the infinite respawn mechanic but nope lol
What a joke
its rough out here sense they nerfed the pirate and goblins
Nah
They just made the system work
At 38 I was getting them every game
I randomly get sht mobs tho
idc about good mobs i just wanna finish my quest
I think hunting faust gobbys is the best way to get legendarys
Don't self kill or they dont get coins i think
ur a higher lvl 18 and up has spider mummies and skeletons every game
Yeah
faustian burgain got so much potential but it honestly lacks depth
Gotta kill the skellys on pirate map
the 500 dmg is really hard now with these mobs
for exp u mean ?
Yeah
have to try that then
Can get like 3 stacks in same time
As 2
From mobs
Morning star is best
Im running slayer
And sword perks with short sword
So I can smash boxes faster
I just skip the bad mobs
Barb with crush warmaul might have better results
Smashing boxes and small vhests
Chests
i run around with hellfire works dec
they just need to do some tuneing on these early mobs trying to hit someone with spider over and over for the high dmg quests is fucked
and the fart zombies etc
Spider should be 0
Mabye every few days have another quest kill the same mob that you become quest for extra affinity
spider shouldnt be possible lets be real
1v1 the mob you are
i wish they just had different stats from normal mobs
And a weekly quest to kill a miniboss as a monster for like 5 affinity
a spider that has more hp or something wouldnt be the worst
Or mabye less
2 affinity
I think that would be sick
Hunt a shark as mobs
3 affinity
would be nice when ur mobs are so bad u cant rly hurt players if there was a farm route
alright fr what do i do
did u unlock shark yet rugs ?
10x spider mummy in a row
i swapped to ice caves if ur like 20 rep u get skeleton halbred sometimes or wolfs
No
I will tomorrow
Out of everything centipede might end up being crazy tho
The poison
yeah it did
easy to dodge isnt it
Has anybody seen what the Dealmaker's most expensive item is?
I wanna know how many antiquated coins I should keep in reserve at any given time
idk but ive got the spectral red thing yesterday for 4 coins ig
I can at least attest, if my memory is correct, to the troll pelt costing 30-ish coins
damn
It was either that or the centaur tail
I'm seeing the spectral fabric for 4 coins, now, too
NO
oops caps
no despite having affinity for it
and going ice caves a lot
never got it
faustian bargain is by far the new worst feature i didn't even die to it i just think it's terrible in general
imagine leveling it up and do 620 dmg as a spider mummy cuz the system is to stupid to shuffle
with that luck on lottery i would behappy
Spiderrrrrrrrr
This error 26-18 I can not start the game how to solve?
ssssppiiiiiiiiideddddeeeerrrrr
w
naaah its the not working clear chat button
no it's the awful awful pain of trying to boss with this feature. also the mobs are way too dangerous lol they need extreme tweaking to cooldown and animations
spider is peak gameplay
does i mention spider is peak gameplay?
And yet 12k concurrent
doubt thats true
there's a reason why ppl always target player mobs first..
pretty sure we have to knock them down off ceiling then de aggro LOL
ngl if you dying to mobs after pirate removal its a straight up skill issue
gobbo swordsman is the only one thats even as dangerous as a player
and you slower than players so they can just walk you down lol
guys why do i suddenly only get horrible mobs since last patch? i didnt read anything about it in the notes
i only get archer skelly or archer pirate on water map and spider on ruins and goblin caves
wtf is that shit
its impossible to hit the 500 dmg like that unless i spend hours
How this feature work guys? I didnt even have this even once. Killed many mobs, players too. Looted chest and still greyed out... ☹
how am i suppose to clear the mission only with spider, lol
All bargain slots are taken, unlucky
You need a certain amount of xp. On gobo caves, you need to kill at least 8 goblins. On water map I think it's 6 pirates (or murder 5 baby turtles and 3 pirates) 😂
Ooh I see now, thanks! 😅
no way we got ts ahhhhhh before a quiver ✌️😭
it’s just weird, finicky and annoying. even if it wasn’t so clunky id still think it has no place in the game
if youre stuck on spider you should que into trio GC, i just got a goblin warrior at 26 affinity
i think its because in trios the mobs stay alive longer so you have better chance at getting a goblin faustian spawn
Kill about 7 monsters then die.
If there are no other players on the map, you won't be able to bargain.
Aslong as it stays out of hr, it's fun enough for casual play.
They nerf goblin speed? i feels like he is so slow now
True
Pirates wasn’t removed just the swift blade one probably
I was playing mad axe man
Honestly he might be better you have 200hp
And a ranged
Yep that’s what it takes when your affinity gets higher
It’s 22 rn
I got better mobs before the patch
Yea that’s around roadblock area
Did they change it ?
What was your affinity pre patch?
Lower than now
Yea well when your affinity gets higher you actually get worse access to some worse mobs
So the curve is just weird because you eventually get weaker mobs at higher affinity ?
Ohhh
Alright got it
And yes we kinda believe they shadow nerfed some things
But generally at the high affinity’s like 30+ is when it gets easier again
At least on the right maps
Kk will try to get there then I might just do 2 dailies until then haha
500 dmg with white spider is madness
It was hard after 20 for me but once I hit 30 I got axeman and maceman as well as pirate axeman
Kk
Nah bro lock in
Bite those ankles fr
I feel u tho shit gets rough after like 12 affinity for some reason
I was blessed last night with a normal goblin somewhow and fucked up like 4 ppl before dying
Hahaha yea I had some of those rounds too
I had a fighter who gifted me some dmg on white spider earlier bless him lmao
I had someone once be like "jump once twice or three times depending on which quest your on" and I jumped three times
Then he was like "alr I'll finish that quest for u but in exchange your gonna be my pet goblin for the match"
Needless to say I made sure that man got out with so much loot
goblin mechanics
With all these nerfs 500 dmg is unrealistic.
Remove spider mummy
😂

bro no reasons for goblin to be this freaking busted, people coming in without gear and dying just to grief bosses and gank up on ppl,why is this in the game
why did a normal goblin killed my geared cleric in 1v1?
whats the fastest way to get points
ty
yes plz
Whats the best map for faustian now that im high enough rep and gc keeps giving me spider mummies?
pray
frozen is not bad but harder find people
You’re cooked
I love spider jail
delete this shit pls
best thing added in this wipe
and actualy last 3 as well
delete this shit pls x2
playing as a spider because of your affinity really does suck
i don;t get why the named it like that
best thing in game
That’s a option???
any map reccomendation for 12 affinity
Does the type of mob have anything to do with it? Like if I kill goblin mage is that worth more mobs?
Gotta play like a actual mob
Don’t go where you’re mob isn’t supposed to go
Stay in one room where your mob is found
And then surprise attack
until i get 1shot by a magic missile like 3 games ago
or if i just get 1 tapped by a random ass barb doing pve
Yeah usually I try and wait around corners if I hear someone one and try and time the hit for when they come around
So I can atleast get some damage in
For quest
Goblins and ice archers are best mobs to be
Also goblin archers
faustian bargain should be based on player kills and not mob kills
In hr yeah
Player kills should count towards it too
if you kill all players as player then there is nobody to faust
Wiping half a lobby for no faust is wild
Yeah that makes no sense you're doing the faustian to kill players, if you have to kill players to then kill yourself, get no gear, to then kill more players, that just makes no sense.
faustian should be a revenge mechanic
it should be a nice thing to get a coin for legendary gear after you lose ur stuff
But you don't get coins unless you have the quest. So doing it outside of just getting damage only exists to grief because you're salty. Revenge mechanics aren't nessisary in an extraction looter.
with continuous being in the game, i don't see this as an issue
Continuous doesn't keep spawning people forever, there's a time cutoff.
ive finished it in under an hour and a half every single time. its not hard yall just gotta pay smart
It'll be impossible when they nerf goblin swordsman, since it's the only good one left.
Outside of hiding in corners waiting for 1 hit a game.
water map is free af wdym
Yeah everyone loves getting a skeleton in prison bottom left o7
i havent had one of those in forever. just pirate axeman and bowman
That's great! Would love to see the clips to get some ideas
does any1 know why my faustian bargain button got greyed out while i have a charge left?
i died in pvp
I like playing as a mob, shitting on lobbies of people as the goblin swordsman with the mage buff, jump headshot killing people in 2-3 hits. Am I gonna sit here and pretend it's good for the game? Definitely not. Last thing we need is more griefing in this game. People already didn't like losing gear they earned killing people to rats hiding in corners waiting to steal the loot.
Having squire kids run you down with the sole intention of griefing you with their life or the next mobs' life, when you're already having to fight a ridiculous amount of people in solo norms rn btw, is exhausting.
I understand where you're coming from. Theoretically, if faustian did get changed to player kills (1 kill = 1 faust), I would argue that the amount of kills that happen in the dungeons wouldn't increase. The player pool would be the same as it is now. The current system makes it far too easy to get a "revenge" kill. You should be rewarded at a second chance to get the guy that killed you, and not given to you.
And I totally get that as well.
im not even doing it to grief ppl i just want quest coins
thats the major problem
EVERYONE wants to do it becouse the merchant sells legendary stuff
Yeah, trust me I get it. Getting a free frost amulet legendary because you griefed people for a couple hours is a pretty good incentive.
I rolled 3 strength on a gold frost amulet from him the other day
So value and incentive are there, at least while you have the quest.
and depending on luck ur spending ur whole day getting 650 damage
When they nerf the goblin swordsman, or when you hit a rep level you stop getting it, definitely.
they should swap the rep reqs for axeman and swordsman
The weaker the mobs are, the more cringe they'll play too. Ganking you with groups of mobs they aggrod, waiting for the 4 other players to swarm you, so on.
They could tie it to it's own mode but then they'd have to add incentive to surviving that mode as a player as well.
Killing the mobs for coins is a good incentive but it's not guaranteed either.
were there any nerfs recently?
People think pirate rate got nerfed but I assume they are just not doing the tech
Now you dont even need to do the tech
Better tech is out
Just bring a Morningstar and break 10 boxes
Kill like 5 mobs and u get 3 bargins
Just skip skellys
how to become stronger mobs
how do you use multiple bargains
No it was 100% nerfed. From playing the past 2 days I got skeletons much more often than before. I used to almost always only get my highest affinity now its nearly random
I'm glad its like that but it definitely was changed
That’s impressive
Even I’m not that good
Takes me 2 hours minimum
And I play smart like if I get a good mob I’m health shrining everything
When I would get pirate swordsman it was under an hour but I never get it anymore so it takes a bit longer
Yea pre nerf it was easy 20-30 mins
Takes me like 3hours now
I’m at 34 rn
For all quests
Im at 40
Yeah same. I didn't play the first day unfortunately. Hopefully they don't gut it before I play it
I’ll be at 38 after today’s
I did the first days
I missed one 500 quest
Im gonna be a friendly now so
I haven’t done yesterdays
We swapping sides
I gotta do that then do today’s when it drops
Don't attack my person 
Gonna non violently follow streamers
And turn around when they look at me
Wonder how they've done the miniboss rates. I'm assuming they've already nerfed the tickets like they did the normal mobs and will likely nerf them even more after people start dying
Like im looking for whoever they are looking for
Imagine turning around and the shark turns around too
Lol
Id be laughing my ass off
Massive fumble not letting me use coms as a mob. I want to blast the jaws music while playing as a shark
Probably be higher but its going that way anyways. Streamers openly cheating to finish it. Saying they don't have the time and its impossible as they sit and play for 16 hours every day
I dont pre team but I definitely let mobs hit me
Esp skelly
Yeah I let the skele and zombie hit me
Bro walked 10 min for 17 dmg I'll let him hit me
Just tell them to jump if they gonna be chill and every time they take the opportunity
Lol exactly
When im done with my affinity I play healer druid and hang out by skelly spawn on water map
Most people just immediately press g
I run thorn coat so I can't help spiders tho
You guys are saving GC lol, I'm questing getting chased by a shamelessly geared slayer fighter and he just gets eaten by the goblin swarm lmao
CAN WE GET RID OF THE DAM BARFAIN?? WHY AM I GETTING JUMPED BY 3 GOBLINS THAT CAN BUNNY HOP WHILE THROWING BOLASS?????
They're not that hard to dodge and they're killing all the aspiring pubstompers so I'm ok with it lmao
If I see a zombie I'll let it hit me, seems impossible
Do you get to do the fart?
how to become stronger mobs
farm inffanity
to deal maker?
not neccesairly. once you get 18 affinity its impossible to play gob caves bc ur always a spider mummy
yes sir
then what to do
you can do other maps?
ty bro
get 1 affinity and be goblin warrior
You can stuck on goblin but its ussles, no coins for nice loot, and no better mobs in future
you can be even shark or skelton chap on high affinity
i want some sub bosses like demon or windigo
there is no reasson to stay on lvl 1
you need 45 or above affinity
for that shido
then youll just have to deal with getting shitty mobs. it only gets worse the more you get
its like 10-12 day if you start from zero and do every day quest
just play other map than goblin after lvl 18 thats it
thank you so much bro that helped alot
np, 3 quest gives you 4 per day, last one is 500 dmg its take a w hile but untill you hit lvl 18 you should farm it on goblin
then i recomend go frozen or ruins for wolfs etc
in ice cave there's alot of sub bosses and really cancer mobs so
got it ty bro
how do you swim faster underwater as a mob?
I just saw someone zip through water as a skeleton but when i hold the faster swimming button i just move slowly
keyboard diff
not every mob have swiming animation.
some are just faster than others though gobby
Its honestly so much harder to get damage when you level affinity
im getting such bad mobs
change for frozen or ruins
so that i can be a 1 ms skelly??
first thing ever that gets worse the more u do it
500 is insane with the mob nerfs
yeah late adopters of the rep grind kinda got fucked
yes
i think 16-18 affinity is wolf so you can fuck up mages with that
wolf is so bad bro