suggestion-discussion

[icy knot]

🤔 👍 🔥

Resurrecting is a pain, as already noted by SDF in his kitchen; it needs to be changed a bit.

[merry gazelle]

fire sale for artifacts, all vendors stocked with them for 1 gold until wipe day PLS @keen onyx

[icy knot]

And then entire playerbase would be fuming again that market is ruined and game is completely unplayable for 1 day

[merry gazelle]

Dude no one cares, you are so negative ive had to put you on ignore. Ppl will complain no matter what, this is a good idea to spice it up last day before wipe its like an event. chill out

[faint dirge]

Horrible idea

[fossil fossil]

Welcome to dnd. That system needs a rework 100%

[spark marsh]

I believe that each class should have its own save. Give the slayer dual swords with a block. Please.

[patent mauve]

Change normals to self found minted and "looted" gear only, handled gear isn't allowed. Let high roller be the mode where you purchase your BIS and normals be where you use what you find in the dungeon, bring goblin recovery in normals back for minted gear only at 2x scrap cost.

[glad yoke]

Take falchion away from lock give it like arming sword or viking sword

[subtle plinth]

why

[merry gazelle]

ok enjoy playing last day of before wipe with the same 3 dudes running BIS in norms running you down over and over again

[glad yoke]

To give it more variation in attacking all of its weapons are big slow and strong attacks it has nothing really rewarding in a fight

[icy knot]

Give warlock Kris back and it becomes the most broken class in the game

[subtle plinth]

falch is one of warlocks only viable weapon bro im not tryna run cs in low gear

[signal burrow]

Anyone else experience this? Took red, got thrown into lobby and all my gear is gone?

[gritty juniper]

Probably got semi semi semi wiped

[subtle plinth]

lebubu when

[patent mauve]

Change normals to self found minted and "looted" gear only, handled gear isn't allowed. Let high roller be the mode where you purchase your BIS and normals be where you use what you find in the dungeon, bring goblin recovery in normals back for minted gear only at 2x scrap cost.

[icy knot]

Bring back dungeon recovery for SSF

Make handled items not recoverable

[glad yoke]

Warlocks viable weapon is the ability to heal off of there opponents while wearing plate armour 💀

[patent mauve]

Definitely, goblin recovery for solo self found gear only, that way if someone dunks you and doesn't even loot your boof gear, you can recover it, or if you die to mobs off in a corner

[tidal shuttle]

there is a whole bunch of people teaming in center of gob caves rn if any devs wanna do anything about it NA west

[subtle plinth]

one overused playstyle out of all of them doesnt deserve a weapon being removed

[grizzled solstice]

falchion ❌ quarterstaff ✅

[glad yoke]

It is its main playstyle

[subtle plinth]

nope its melee/demonlock now

[glad yoke]

With BoC halber bardiche even crystal sword falchion is one of many broken weapons atleast the others u are protected by a shield

[subtle plinth]

? i dont understand what your saying

[heavy hazel]

Wouldnt be awesome if the game was like the animes with dungeons ? Like no timer ( both pve and pvp ) , many lvls of dungeon floors and a boss room tha can only accept 1 party at a time and re respawns for the next one . Also the monsters become more difficult each floor. And you need at least 1 tank . And an ideally party would be 1 tank 1 dps (or 2 ) and 1 healer class . 😇

[full patrol]

It would be cool for most of that...but their 'vision' isn't to grow the game, it's to make the game that they want.

[leaden knot]

I love singing 'sdf vision' whilst running around in normals with an echo 1 shotting all of the timmies 😄

[opaque sinew]

He's spec don't worry

[torn goblet]

if you like anime you should go outside and talk with real people sometime

[long robin]

COULD of SWORE its says its wiped characters for new season but mine are still here... when does it wipe? thought it did???

[neon owl]

4h

[full patrol]

Did you download the update?

[proud ferry]

Consider making keys not tradeble, pretty unrealistic to get something like a mystic gem and hiking it over to the loot room ontop of the circle still existing

[long robin]

i exited and came back and reloaded the launcher with no option to, just verifying the installation now, i take it its working fine for everyone else

[full patrol]

If you haven't downloaded the update, then nothing has happened yet.

Check the #📢announcements channel for when servers are back up.

[icy knot]

W patch
No more easy boss(wyvern) farming in HR

[split bolt]

For future wipes pls make the countdown be to the actual wipe - I was super excited that it wipes in time when I am at work so when I come back it should be live - now its like 6 hours after the countdown ended I and I am finding out I need to wait 3 and half hours for the actual game to be live ...

[valid island]

"As for character customization, we continue to approach this carefully due to visibility concerns" -SDF
Please look at Albion Online's skin visibility options. On/Off setting for enemy, ally, self.

[clear skiff]

so without SK and stuff like that
how are we supose to value artifact items?

[icy knot]

That was always the problem

Welcome in good game

[patent mauve]

gems gems are truly outrageous

[glad yoke]

Blow of corruption warlock and every single warlock weapon is strong changing one weapon for weaker weapons wont hurt

[broken rapids]

Remove Circle Swarm

[proud ferry]

If we’re doing this with the keys then circles gotta go

[icy knot]

Readd fog of war

But for high roller make map rotate with character so player doesn't know where is the middle of the map

[abstract bone]

all artifacts are now 50k gold 😄

[merry crag]

can we have squire looby back? don't wanna farm adventure to play normals

[onyx pivot]

Remove market

[warped quarry]

33-37 knowledge = 7% cast speed...

[patent mauve]

Cast speed rolls just got 2-3x more valuable.

[runic night]

give us the option to turn off the controller because its messing with my setup

[pure summit]

• Make adventure rank important and tied to skill — Make the points gained determined by how you compare with others in the lobby instead of just raw value amount. - If the others in the lobby die their extracted value goes to 0, allowing you to go up the ranks of the lobby the more you kill or the more you earn. Both are viable playstyles.
• Randomize everything in the dungeon to bring back the sense of discovery and danger.
• Add random rare rooms, mobs, and events, that are extremely rewarding (gold rooms, puzzle rooms, death rooms (platformer with traps), rare npc vendors or quest givers, rare mini-bosses, etc.)
• Create progression systems outside of game that are actually interesting & fun.
• Redesign combat and classes to be more "combo" based (instead of just w-key, m1 spam, and throwable spam) and add more CC/counter/immunity options for more builds, teamwork, peeling, catching, etc. — Think RPG fantasy combat.
  — Significantly increase TTK to allow DPS optimization, CC, coordination, skill expression, and team comp ideas, etc. to shine through. (use MM to balance)
• Increase abilities to 3-4 for each class to increase combat variance and builds. (rather than press sprint and crossbow whole fight.) - make abilities have more clear purposes, strengths, and synergy.
• Isolate Adventure, Normal, and HR modes with their OWN MARKETPLACES AND CHARACTERS, and force players to create a new character for each mode. (Adventure character, normal character, HR character)
• Skill Based Matchmaking (with gear score & win/loss streak modifier)

These changes would make the game 100x better than just adding more maps and vanity content.

[queen isle]

"Make the points gained determined by how you compare with others in the lobby instead of just raw value amount"

This is applied when killing other players

and the rare rooms do exist (wheel, maze, vault)

theyre not "rare" to say (chance is same as any other room), but not guarenteed

[languid thorn]

@keen onyx massive memory leak when opening inevtory loosing 100 fps

[valid rivet]

Lower the ttk? What do you want a barb to look at you and you lose half your health? The TTK is already extremely quick

[subtle plinth]

give warlock more spells plz

and revert spell casting nerf we have basekit -33% now

[tight onyx]

Fix Crush. Make Crush Fun and useful Again.

[icy knot]

Make every perk in the game useful

[last escarp]

Time distortion def needs all its downsides it’s to strong but is there any way to not have the debuff cooldown reset each use

[patent mauve]

No but you can make the stacks fall off faster with debuff duration and Cooldown reduction

[icy knot]

Fog of war with additional map based content

[hoary shard]

a book of holy magic with static magical healing stat similar to ceremonial staff but slightly worse, it gives me aids that as a cleric i run like 24mh, 30%mpb and my heals are still tickling

[last escarp]

How does cooldown reduction help with the stacks?

[last escarp]

Oh I just read the wiki does it take both into account like if I have 20% cdr and 20% debuff how would that apply

[pure summit]

I actually meant to increase TTK so that it takes multiple combos and outplays to win a fight instead of just once. If you outplay you should get a good chunk of damage and the upper hand, but the combat systems should have more abilities and options in kits to be able to manage your build and cooldowns better to turn things around. Especially in duos and trios.

Much more fantasy and fun combat, instead of just crossbow, throwable, and fireball spam.

[patent mauve]

A 10 second stack(IDK how long it actually is) would be 6.4 seconds with 20/20%

[last escarp]

I think it’s 5 or 6 sec Ty for info

[patent mauve]

Anytime

[grand mortar]

Remove Plasma Burst's self damage or get rid of it entirely.

[tender sphinx]

This is where I go to give solutions to what I complain about right. That won’t make a difference anyways

[spark marsh]

@keen onyx Please give the slayer a block. Just add paired blades as a single item.

[patent mauve]

Use a magic protection potion, it also gives a significant speed boost

[full patrol]

Why? Going Slayer is that the trade off is no shield to block with, but higher dps.

[grand mortar]

Good Idea TY.

[patent mauve]

[limber elbow]

game new season no chance any shit , all are the same , keep buff druid and magic + ranger , all melee keep nerf down , so what the point for new season just wipe all stash and start all over again with more druid buff ??

[subtle plinth]

make it a hitscan like explosion instead of self casting

[spark marsh]

You've probably never played on a slayer, since you say that. What a cliché answer. My idea didn't come out of nowhere. It's the result of many years of analysis. Playing as a slayer. A slayer deals less damage than a plate warrior.

[spark marsh]

Don't you think it's funny that a master swordsman can't parry an attack? When even a wizard or archer can use a spear, stick, or even a magic sword to block.I understand that you're used to beating these guys like mannequins, which is why it's convenient for you to talk like that.

[spark marsh]

The essence of a slayer is that he has no plate armor, for which he takes damage. It's not because you want him to never be able to stop an attack. The developers just haven't figured it out yet, but that doesn't mean it won't happen.

[spark marsh]

@sdf Please give the slayer a block. Just add paired blades as a single item.
1)
-Pair blades should weigh the same as a two-handed sword, 30. This will solve the problem with the fighter's speed. Because a slayer cannot take the “Speedster” perk.
-Give them a small percentage of armor penetration (not necessary). At least for the crafting variation, so that they are no worse than a falchion and a dagger with penetration.
-The slowdown from hitting the target should be no less than that of an arming sword.
(Adding such an item will make many of the fighter's perks work).
2) Other Slayer suggestions
-Merger the Dual Wield and Slayer perks. This feature allows Slayer to take an additional fighter perk. It also prevents armored fighters from taking the Dual Wield perk to create hybrids in armor.

• Add craftable clothing that fighters without armor can wear. There is nothing craftable for Slayer. Especially qualities that are unusual or rare... Continue reading in the comments...
• Slayers have repeatedly requested the option to wear headgear other than the leather cap. (Personally, I would like a crafted white cloth mask. (Like the gold one, but white) xD, but that's not important).
• Allow daggers to be thrown without the Weapon Master perk. (Even wizards can do it, but fighters can't. How awful!) https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/662667/slayer-2025-current-offers This is a completely new vote. Everything unnecessary has been removed.

[leaden knot]

Dungeonbourne parry pov
was the best fucking thing

[limber elbow]

do you eat shit before say ? rogue like shit from season 4 to season 6 , he strong in beta and season 1-2 and season 3 all perk and gear nerf

[leaden knot]

If you are dying to rogues in this meta I think that says a lot more about you than rogues

[icy knot]

Hide(landmine)
one of the many things that makes people quit

[abstract bone]

druid got nerfed ur just trash bro

[eager barn]

Tell me you are not playing without telling me

Druid got nerfed, casters got nerfed

[broken rapids]

Make portals/bridge open/activate time same for everyone.

HR Mages etc have advantage for opening portals(since its only way to go out).

[patent mauve]

Add a squire /common and poor gear only lobby, with random map and trios only. This allows casuals to practice PvP in a base kit environment and only adds a single queue into the game.

[fossil fossil]

A no mic option for LFG would be awesome. I something play without a headset and get cussed out/blasted for not speaking. Can we have a group finding section put in the discord? I feel like that’d take 10 mins tops to implement @blazing vapor

[broken rapids]

visible player kill count/deaths/survive etc like in Apex Legends for each class/acc in nameplates

[wind coral]

The "issue where the loading could fail when going down a floor" still occurs.

[signal burrow]

Am I just unlucky or is it bugged. I haved qued up for HR 8 times and keep getting gobby caves EDIT 9 TIMES NOW

[patent mauve]

Unlucky but it could also be that it isn't random, and is actually based on time slot rotations that they don't show.

[frigid skiff]

Are you dying really fast?

I died almost instantly in ice abyss recently to try and get out and get another map and it put me right back in 2-3 more times

[patent mauve]

Make ruins the first floor for every dungeon, keep ice map and goblin caves queues up, but make it so there are red statics that can take you to every map from ruins. A watery cave entrance for goblin caves, a forest module with a layer of snow heading to the ice caves along with stairs leading to the crypts. Add a boat to take you to the new water map when it comes out.

[signal burrow]

nah i havent died on my fighter for like 2 days in hr lol

[limber elbow]

panther speed buff is nerf ? eat shit and talk ?

[abstract bone]

if u die to a panther thats embarrassing they die in 2-3 shots.

[frigid skiff]

Panther attack speed was nerfed? What are you talking about man

[amber sentinel]

SUggestion : AMD GPU optimisation --> actually it's full CRASH

[odd kernel]

Please add 4k windowed full screen

[gloomy storm]

Start Community Polling upcoming updates. learn from Runescape and lets get some statistics on how many players actually support changes made
Stop listening to the loudest most obnoxious individuals. Just poll the community and we might actually start to get an idea of what direction the actual community would like this game to go in

[modest hare]

Suggestion completely remove Iron will.

remove barbarians from being able to use clubs

nerf long bow headshot damage by 100%

[austere nova]

Remove marketplace forever, buff vendors.

[limber elbow]

NERF ? ARE YOU BLIND ? CAN YOU READ ? IF YOU MEAN INCREASED IS NERF SO FUCK YOUR EYES

[abstract bone]

Fail ragebait bro. you're so outta the loop its crazy.

[languid acorn]

Revert the headshot damage holy shit

[patent mauve]

Make ruins the first floor for every dungeon, keep ice map and goblin caves queues up, but make it so there are red statics that can take you to every map from ruins. A watery cave entrance for goblin caves, a forest module with a layer of snow heading to the ice caves along with stairs leading to the crypts. Add a dock with a boat to take you to the new water map when it comes out.

[icy knot]

Make big open world pve map as first floor

[frosty spire]

whats the best solo hr class rn?

[left wyvern]

Pretty much anything that can run the voi­d blade lmao

[patent mauve]

With great power comes great responsibility

[frosty spire]

they fixed it

[swift agate]

please make it so there is more than ice arena maps

[languid thorn]

One day, Fighter will be a fighter again.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkAndDarker/comments/1n3xpmn/fighter_feedback/

[limber elbow]

this game is dead , your hope will never come

[graceful frost]

Gotta be the worse fighter changes i have seen

[languid thorn]

how so

[fossil fossil]

i second this. 1 step closer to an open world with dungeons scattered across the map

[compact marten]

allow us to change our character's names without having to recreate the character and lose our fame.

[distant tinsel]

I'll change the illusion to bloodthirstiness and pay 20 unique stones

[languid thorn]

@dawn grotto the suggestion board is only 1000 word page.
suggestion, please make it 10.000

[kind sage]

My suggestion for the game is to not dump multiclassing on the live server mid season. In fact how about not multiclassing at all until the talent trees are done and can be used to multiclass with some form of sanity and balance. If you want to keep the players you have left don't multiclass until after talent trees are done.

[reef quartz]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663167/seasonal-perksskill-rotations-future-suggestion

[jaunty tusk]

Allow us to break gear down into crafting components and use those components to recraft gear with random rolls. For example break a magic staff down into a wood shaft and magical components and use the wood shaft and iron ingots to craft a bardiche

[void panther]

Dm @blazing vapor for any older suggestion links that seem to not be working (he said it's ok but please use some restraint brother is doing a lot comparatively)

[blazing vapor]

Fact checked (true)

[void panther]

Mind if I spread this message (with the @) into some class channels since I think they get the most traction?

[blazing vapor]

Sure

[icy knot]

devs woke up lol
#📢community-announcements message

[void panther]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/649757/use-the-test-server-before-going-to-live-as-an-incentive

[icy knot]

Bring back Fog of War but better

• lootable map scraps
• get the map of people you kill

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/631753/bring-back-fog-of-war-but-better

[round patio]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663226/are-u-clowns

[icy knot]

DARK AND DARKER
Gradually dim the light sources once the end-match effect begins, leaving the dungeon completely dark by the time the match ends.

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663233/make-dungeon-completely-dark-by-the-end-of-the-match-dark-and-darker

[stuck perch]

Re-emphasis class identity in classes
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663239/reemphasis-class-identity-in-the-classes

[rocky rivet]

Actually a very cool idea

[opaque umbra]

Maybe get rid of the dumb 200% headshot modifier idk.

All it really encourages is unreactable bunny hop weapon drags because the servers are powered by 56k dialup courtesy of America Online in combination with client side attack priority.

Or maybe just get servers that don't average 100-150ms delay inside of our own regions. Kind of a joke in 2025.

[reef quartz]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663167/seasonal-perksskill-rotations-future-suggestion

For future update consideration. Seasonal Perks and Skill Rotations to make the game have more diverse builds to have fun with.

[shell lake]

❌ delete druid
❌ delete sorcerer
✅ revert to patch 68
✅ bring back squire lobbies

Queues management: duos only in ice cavern now
Goblin caves: Solo normal, Trios normal, Solo HR, Trios HR
Ice caverns: Duos normal, Solo HR, Duos HR
Ruins: Solo normal, Trios normal, Solo HR, Trios HR

Add a 10v10 capture the flag mode

make it so when random matchmaking you can select to have allies around your own gear score range and you can select classes that you want / dont want to queue up with

[stuck perch]

Why delete druid and sorcerer? Also you claim patch 68 was beloved by the player base but haven't said why. Don't assume others agree with you. Also if they have time to add things like a capture the flag mode they should use that time to actually focus on their core game. Once the core game loop is in a solid and fun states they can go about adding random modes that aren't related to the main game. It's not a bad idea per say, but you don't just put drywall over cracked foundations.

[icy knot]

randomness in this game is addicting.
When patch 68 happened, every RNG addict got a rush.

[fluid depot]

I have a suggestion not that they will take note but... Fix The Bugs in the game Like spec knight hit registration and random hitboxes making you get stuck

[hazy frost]

I approve

[shell lake]

I agree with putting drywall but I wanna get excited with a new mode, and if you delete some duo queues it should balance it out population wise. Patch 68 was great we had 30k then 69came and steady decline. I have fond memories of 68. I know it's not enough to justify but it's something.... Let me know if u need more info... 69 was they removed all attributes, then 71 or 72buffed barbs,now recent re-added attributes and kinda came back to 68 LK some changes were in the right direction

About druid and sorc delete too long to explain LK but druid is about the ability ressetting and making next fight a 4v3 and sorc is wiz on steroids, the culmination of run and runner, and balancing a game around a class that casts non stop is weird... Wiz and rangers should be more melee or whatever cuz hold the line in pt3-4 was fun and we kinda lost that when warlock came, and movespeed became the meta

[shadow ivy]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663352/add-a-labubu-emote

[proper shadow]

I got a suggestion, I think we should all just stop playing AT LEAST until we get the water map. Then when that is a broken hot pile of buggy garbage we can all officially stop playing.

They have spent almost 3 wipes time, working on this map. We were supposed to have it 2 wipes ago, it was delayed because it’s “not ready”. And some how I already know when it gets released it’s still going to be very “not ready”.

At that point I hope anyone left playing the game realizes SDF truly doesn’t deserve it.

[patent mauve]

Make ruins the first floor for every dungeon, keep ice map and goblin caves queues up, but make it so there are red statics that can take you to every map from ruins. A watery cave entrance for goblin caves, a forest module with a layer of snow heading to the ice caves along with stairs leading to the crypts. Add a dock with a boat to take you to the new water map when it comes out.

[potent obsidian]

Make SSF permanent

[abstract bone]

Please let SSF end now its so bad

[clever valley]

I WISH. It's so nice going up against people with realistic gear, and not constant meta garbage again and again.

[queen isle]

Yo, can I have your lobbies please?

[clever valley]

Come to NA. We've got mostly Crypts, Frost Caves, and really aggro fighters and clerics with blues and purples that aren't socketed to high hell and back.

[patent mauve]

SSF for normals would be peak

[split bolt]

I feel like doing quests every wipe can be boring and quite repetetive. At least I personally don´t like having to do quests so I can get bow and crossbow in squire gear for my bard or so I can craft little bit better stuff. It doesn´t provide player with any meaningful content - you go in the dungeon, pray to rng for the item you want or spend whole session running around healthshrines/locations instead of actually focusing on what makes the game fun - fighting players/bosses and getting loot.

My suggestion:
Leave the quests for all the npcs as they are just don´t wipe the progression alongside everything else.
Have season quests for npcs that do reset/change each wipe that provide consumables, gold storage items like coin bags/chests/others. Have some seasonal rewards be locked behind those quests like emotes, etc.

I think quests are really good thing for new players to get aquinted with the game on another level - they make you try out different maps, get to know enemis and loot

if you like this - upvote at the dark and darker page - https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663499/permanent-quests-vs-seasonal-quests

I think most of the people play the game to gather loot, get some gold and spend it on better gear. Having to invest 100k gold into some reward seems like delaying a lot from the core of the game.

My suggestion:
Leave the religion as it is but make the progression towards the goal be from the value of items extracted and don´t force players to put the gold in. There will still be decent grind needed but people won´t have to choose between tens of hours spent towards one skin and actually being able to compete with other players in the dungeons.

if you like this - upvote at the dark and darker page - - https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663500/religion-progression-on-passive-income

[dull sphinx]

hows religion work?

[languid thorn]

any opinions on this?
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663501/fighter-should-use-all-physical-weapons

Suggestion:

Physical weapons only: The Fighter should focus solely on physical weapons and not magical ones (such as staffs or wands) or ranged weapons like bows. The Fighter should be a jack-of-all-trades, master of none, relying on versatility in physical combat rather than magical or ranged attacks.

Recurve Bow access: only when they are not wearing plate armor or via the slayer perk. (fighter can still use normal crossbow)
Knife restriction: Fighters should not be allowed to use knives. While historically fighters may have used small blades in certain situations, in the context of the game, knives do not fit the Fighter’s role as a physically durable combatant focused on larger, more impactful weapons.

Weapon Mastery perk could be removed, as Fighters would already have defined weapon choices.

[narrow tree]

let us craft cobalt picaxes and rubysilver picaxes that give us the chance to mine an extra ore and one that gives the chance to mine a random gem while obtaining ore

[pliant horizon]

make AP farm doable in PvE mode and add HR PvE

[icy knot]

Brooo ap farming in PVE

You don't even have to extract to gain AP in HR...

[potent obsidian]

That's one way to say you are bad at the game

[potent obsidian]

I just like the fact that loot means something and there is a reason to actually play the game longer than an hour at a time

[icy knot]

I think devs already listened to much to PVP players

• Marketplace open 24/7
• More stats on gear
• Battle Royale
• circle

All it did is widen the gear gap and left casuals (majority of playerbase) stuck in PVE

[icy knot]

Either make marketplace gear weaker

Or remove gear from marketplace

[mild roost]

If the game were to roll back to the 100,000 concurrent users era with only a convenience patch left, I'm confident the concurrent users would recover to at least 30,000.

[abstract bone]

doesn't matter at the end of the day SSF will go away

[pale dust]

found the 40 yr old haha, dont worry bro i was there too, i had mindspring.

[clever valley]

I totally agree. I felt surprised and whiplashed the first time I opened a skeleton corpse and found an ultimate gem in it in HR. That's when I figured out that loot was buffed.

[pale dust]

legit we are mostly there already. gear wise, the only real difference is the new classes. It was at 100k because of the hype train, and the hold the line shit. Ironmace has burned alot of goodwill with the community so they gotta earn that trust back and if the last 2 months are any indicator they can do that, idk im not as sure anymore. Like look at the whole "vision" shit. Everything was reverted.... everything. The only difference is gear in norms and no brackets anymore. And gaurding the new play experience was the only real hope the game had. Season 5 with the fog of war made the game feel like a real dungeon crawler. They removed it because they wanted to use items to spawn bosses.. the removed that too.

idk man, Im tired of sdf deving shit for nothing.

Bring back Fog of war, remove the circle for good.. dev new game modes. Stop with the constant hyper bipolar mood swings and "balancing".. and focus on creating new experiences.. and organic, team work driven content. Thats what people want.

[potent obsidian]

Hopefully not with so many people enjoying it

[clever valley]

This is going to be an extremely unpopular opinion. If a wipe lasts 3-6 months on average, I really do hope they make SSF last for the first 3-6 weeks of a fresh wipe.

[tired acorn]

its gonna go away cuz people like it just like 200% headshots wont go away cuz ppl hate it

[potent obsidian]

This is too accurate

[mild roost]

Many people enjoy Dark and Darker cuz they offer a tangible experience very similar to gambling. That's what makes the game so enjoyable.

We don't play Dark and Darker for world exploration or role-playing. For a more intuitive reason,

think about the most enjoyable moments you've had while playing the game.

A "highly anticipated play" is defeating a powerful enemy with minimal equipment or stealing valuable equipment without investing.

On the other hand, a "highly enjoyable experience" is entering a dungeon with valuable equipment you absolutely cannot afford to lose. Defeating such a powerful enemy or overcoming various difficult situations is a truly exhilarating and thrilling experience.

Even if you've played the game for so long that you've become numb to the sensation of killing someone,

I think the reason I'm drawn to this game is the experience of entering a dungeon with a precious item in your hand, trembling with fear.

The fun of gambling lies not in winning, but in losing. You don't want to lose, but the very thought of losing makes your heart race, and the thrill of the outcome creates a profound experience.

The thrill of gambling comes from the fear of losing something, and other mechanisms are very similar to gambling.

[vocal beacon]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663545/community-and-private-servers

[mild roost]

Bosses released after Lich and the Ghost King force solo play rather than teamwork.

[mild roost]

124 Gear Score should be restored and gear and weapon balance should be rolled back to previous seasons.

[mild roost]

You are right

[pale dust]

yea sadly, the frost dragon was supposed to be a teamwork thing but then yea.. lol

[spark marsh]

@sdf Please give the slayer a block. Just add paired blades as a single item.
1)
-Pair blades should weigh the same as a two-handed sword, 30. This will solve the problem with the fighter's speed. Because a slayer cannot take the “Speedster” perk.
-Give them a small percentage of armor penetration (not necessary). At least for the crafting variation, so that they are no worse than a falchion and a dagger with penetration.
-The slowdown from hitting the target should be no less than that of an arming sword.
(Adding such an item will make many of the fighter's perks work).
2) Other Slayer suggestions
-Merger the Dual Wield and Slayer perks. This feature allows Slayer to take an additional fighter perk. It also prevents armored fighters from taking the Dual Wield perk to create hybrids in armor.

Add craftable clothing that fighters without armor can wear. There is nothing craftable for Slayer. Especially qualities that are unusual or rare... Continue reading in the comments...
Slayers have repeatedly requested the option to wear headgear other than the leather cap. (Personally, I would like a crafted white cloth mask. (Like the gold one, but white) xD, but that's not important).
Allow daggers to be thrown without the Weapon Master perk. (Even wizards can do it, but fighters can't. How awful!) https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/662667/slayer-2025-current-offers This is a completely new vote. Everything unnecessary has been removed.

[full patrol]

Top shelf ridiculous. If blocking is so important to you, play a fighter. If it's more important for you to dual wield, then be a slayer. Holding two weapons in one hand so you can use a shield...??? Crazy talk.

[spark marsh]

You're talking nonsense. Every time I make this post. The game has to evolve. Even a wizard or archer can make a block, a sword master can't make a block. I'm not talking about using a shield, I'm talking about new weapons, paired blades that will have block mechanics. new weapons can solve a lot of problems, up to and including artifact weapons for dual wielders. But I'm not going to list what problems will go away with the new weapons. Play a season on the slayer. Tell me then how your ideas about slayer develop through the air. I'm sorry that instead of listening to people who know about the class, they hear from amateurs like you who haven't even played a season for the class they're talking about and suggesting.

[void panther]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/527851/allow-wizards-to-use-all-spells

[spark marsh]

A new weapon solves it:

1. the issue with the number of items. 1 item 2 blades. When found, the set works immediately and there is no need to search for a pair.
2. the ability to stop the attack when the situation requires it.
3. the balance of characteristics is adjusted to the slayer.
4. the crazy weight of the weapon will be reduced to match the light fighter.
5. Perks of the fighter on the slayer. Which can increase survivability.
6. If you don't like it, drop the mittens.

8. weapon crafting,
9. an artifact that doesn't need a useless non-artifact pair.

[spark marsh]

It's obvious that you have limited imagination. It's difficult for you to imagine what you can't see. But that's your problem.

[ionic epoch]

I have a suggestion, fix your broken game, Im sick of getting put into arena with all casters when i play a caster or all melee with no range when I play a barbarian against the opposing weakness. Like an arena team full of rangers when we have no range, no tank when we're all weak casters, What is wrong with this game its have we not spent enough money between the game you made for free and the "DLC" cold coin bags for you to actually start balancing the game and fix this arena stuff? which you still leave PVE in for some reason despite the whole community hating it? Is ironmace looking at the dwindling playerbase and considering doing anything to bring that back or keep the rest of us from leaving? I can look at the steam player charts and see how its gone from 40k players to 4k, Is anyone at iron mace googling this and paying attention? Maybe it would be a good suggestion to start?

[subtle plinth]

pleeze ade mordeo spellings

[ionic epoch]

Another suggestion, since you guys had the game down so much during the arena window, maybe don't take it down and actually let people play arena over the weekend??? what the heck

[full patrol]

I imagine you enjoy having your cake and eating it too.

[errant zodiac]

@keen onyx when you gonna give rogues some damage

[crisp quiver]

-Bring Fog of war
-Normals only SSF gear
-Talent tree develoment
-3 skills for all classes
-Headshot dmg to 175%

[errant zodiac]

@keen onyx you ever gonna make rogue good

[broken rapids]

Pickpocket+Trap/Locks merge
Daggermastery+Thrust merge

[errant zodiac]

like sure i guess but like just work on them in general like they just all around so weak nothing that they have as a strength is "real" their speed dosent mean shit, they do basically no damage unless you fully bis, they get 2 hit and their stealth literally dosent do anything when you have no damage and they can hear you even with creep and the smoke cloud when entering is so telling their only redeeming quality is double jump

like why are pdr barbs able to chase me down with a clud and round shield out

like why dose crossbow reload faster than handcross bow

why is the range of cross bow and throwing knives so shit the projectile speed so slow, why do they do almost negative damage

[errant zodiac]

maybe a healing trait, i always thought when entering stealth gain a health recovery buff, but even just a faster bandage trait

[errant zodiac]

why not rebuff dagger mastery now that you nerfed daggers basicly to be obsolete?

[abstract bone]

@keen onyx buff druid

[sly monolith]

Bring back normal squire gear lobbies. That shit was great.

[abstract bone]

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[real basin]

Plss give us Arena 24/7
give us psobile to crate Clans /guild that can climb the Arena ladder up
1v1
2v2
3v3
5v5

[ruby rock]

Leave only the most classic classes and this game will be revived.

[icy knot]

Yessss we need more queues
We should wait 2hour for arena game

[opaque umbra]

Chill out on the 200% headshot modifier jesus christ

[proven plank]

back gear 24

[frigid skiff]

Remove the pdr reduction in panther, it’s no longer required

[ruby rock]

and 124 gear score

[proven plank]

👍

[wraith cobalt]

Option to turn on and off fog of war in all modes. Set arenas up like how public matchs used to be with gear score brackets (0-125, 125-225 and 225+).

[icy knot]

on and of fog of war

Devs should make a comunnity polls so players will make a decision what queues should stay or be removed. So players will hate each other instead of devs

[broken rapids]

Give Buckler to Rogue.

[real basin]

Yesssssssss

[errant zodiac]

give rogues some actual move speed cause they actually get chased down by every thing except wizard

[spark marsh]

Am I supposed to enjoy this game? I get beaten up and I can't defend myself. I can't inflict more damage than my attacker. I always die. Whoever came up with the myth that slayers are crazy damage dealers should be boiled in a separate vat in hell. All I ask is for a new weapon for the slayer, with the ability to defend myself. This isn't fencing, it's crap. They're killing me with a gray, rusty longsword. I'm sick of it! I sacrificed everything to become stronger, but in the end, the patched fighter is stronger. the most standard. I'm tired of humiliating myself playing this game! Either you give the slayers the changes, or I'm outta here! Nothing changes depending on how I'm dressed. Last time, I was killed by a rogue who was partially dressed in gray clothes. I was dressed better. I initiated the attack first... https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/662667/slayer-2025-current-offers
All I ask is to give us the ability to block. I don't even dream of parrying with a possible counterattack. Please give us at least some changes! The short sword and arming sword are completely unsuitable for reality.

[ruby rock]

Make a quiver, a bag, and a guild system.

[abstract bone]

Fix druid chicken heal Buff panther PDR/HP and fix dreamwalk @keen onyx too many bugs for a class that requires the highest skill cap to play.

[toxic totem]

cry some more

[somber wind]

Add actual sockets instead of the current gem system so we can get named gems.

Add veiled modifiers like in Path of Exile.

[full patrol]

Want more cake?

[grim atlas]

just get good bro

[fading ibex]

what 3 merchents can u get the artifacts from

[shy ermine]

I suggest bringing back the Squire lobby to provide better playability, especially for new players who want to try to learn the game and enjoy it in any way. The PvE mode isn’t enough because it lacks PvP, and when people want to transition to PvP, they usually run into dungeon alphas who have full legendary gear and think it’s fine. This isn’t fair, not just for new players but for everyone. It’s actually absurd that people with less or no gear are taken out in two hits or simply beaten because of their equipment.

[brisk junco]

Sorry this channel is only for delusional pitches please take ur reasonable suggestion elsewhere

[shy ermine]

Hahahahah

[potent obsidian]

Can we goblin back during ssf? Amount of stuff I lose because people leave it behind or I get smoked by PvE like a shitter is sad days

[patent mauve]

I agree, but only for minted items

[potent obsidian]

That would be better than nothing. Hurts watching someone leave your gear to waste because they don't need it and can't sell it

[muted crag]

give warlock so much more one handed equipment.

[potent obsidian]

Give Kris dagger back

[wide willow]

Check this out
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663952/leave-it-be-read

[pliant horizon]

make quest items 100% drop rate if you are on the said quest.

normally i wouldn't mind them being low but when theres a full lobby trying to do the exact same quest, i can barely even find the mob i need to kill.

in this case its the centaur hoof... if i don't rush from spawn, every centaur will be dead in 5 minutes.. its incredibly frustrating to do this quest when you can't even kill the mob.

i think i spent about 30 hours non-stop centaur hunting and none of them yielded the hoof. most of the time i can't even fight it because everything is dead already..

[icy knot]

so I just unlock spectral fabric quest and farm spectral 24/7

[queen isle]

its like 1/10 chance, few people farm spectral, you should get it fast

[narrow coral]

Are you trying in PvE? The spawn rate for hoof is crazy low in PvE

[full patrol]

Ya, I don't know why they nerfed drop rates and gear so badly in Adventure Mode, makes no sense.

[broken rapids]

it makes sense, Adventure Mode should be learning curve how to play vs monsters/bosses. not farming area.

[rancid nest]

In my opinion they should turn off loot in pve

[icy knot]

⬆️

[median mural]

Not turn off, but make it limited to green MAX and no crafting mats drop at all

[icy knot]

I suggest making a Tavern Table episode before season 7, where the CEO apologizes for his and his team’s mistakes and promises only positive changes going forward(if you truly believe you can do that now).

I would like to hear you SDF speaking English. Don't sit in the back of the table. Be brave act like CEO. Answer questions of players.

[broken rapids]

[errant zodiac]

@keen onyx why do rogues do no damaage

@keen onyx why can almost all classes able to chase rogues down

@keen onyx f why do rogues get 3 tapped by anything but needs to 6 hit even the clothies

[brisk junco]

skill issue

[errant zodiac]

than why is there like 1 rogue every 10 matches i play

[icy knot]

Rogue is Ms and action speed monster. Is very powerful when played by good player.

[broken rapids]

Merge Lockpick+Pickpocket
Merge Dagger mastery+Thrust
buff Tumble

[errant zodiac]

even the best struggling with it right now

[icy knot]

Watched party chip vid
Lots of rogues in ruins

[broken rapids]

Rogue needs expensive kits to get along with Squire geared classes sometimes.
Double Jump and try them hit into head and get hits into legs is only way to Face2Face combat(if not properly landmined with stacked TrueDmg)

• still its most fun class to play, cuz you have to do some effort to kill.

[errant zodiac]

facts even still barbs cleric fighters still better landmines

[brisk junco]

invis pot and ranger shotgun = instakill

[errant zodiac]

rogues dont even have that much of an action speed advantge club barbs attack just about as fast and deal twice the amount of damage

[icy knot]

But you have double jump, invis, 2 x hand crossbow insta shot, 12 throwing knifes

[broken rapids]

This is so true, yday I died like 3 times on Invis pot clerik near Frost Doors. Smite from invis, 2 tap me.

[errant zodiac]

so to be balanced i need to spend like 300 gold each round on throwing knives?

[broken rapids]

Give rogue a Buckler

[icy knot]

Yes, just like ranger with his arrows

Meenwhile warlocks are the richest players: 😎

[broken rapids]

Arrows can be picked from bodies, T.knives not

[icy knot]

[errant zodiac]

alot easier to find and pick up arrows than it is throwing knives and 20 arrows are the same as 2 knives

[broken rapids]

Tbh Rogue needs just some merge skills, something block/Riposte. thats it.

Or complete ability rework, caster wheel with = caltrops+Smokebomb+blinding sand etc.

[errant zodiac]

knives do way less damage travel much slower and have lke a 5thof the range

honestly i would take thr 5% on dagger mastery back at this point you nerffed it first than the daggers and prob not because of rogues it was fighters/ bard using rondel so much, just give rogues their trait back

[fossil fossil]

Cause you’re playing a class that uses knives as their main weapon. It makes sense that a knife doesn’t do as much damage as an axe or a sword.

Go to your kitchen and grab a pairing knife, go try to cut down a tree.. how long would it take?
Now cut a tree similar in size with an axe, probably took less time, right?

As for the movement speed thing, you play a booger aids class that goes invisible and opens chests/pick pockets. If anything you should be slower than you are. A rogue is only really good for being a loot goblin and weakining/annoying people who run pvp based classes.

Stop whining and play ranger/druid if you want to be fast.

[errant zodiac]

L take my guy, take a 8 inch kitchtech kife and stab someone in the liver and than take a club and hit someone in the head see wich is more effective

[fossil fossil]

Club fs.

Edit. Expanding on that, sutures and surgery can save stabbing victims. If you’re smacked in the noggin, brain bleeds/bruising and concussions kill like crazy.

[broken rapids]

Rupture should does slow, it hat huge cooldown, not much damage etc.
Or if Rogues get similiar ability like Cuttroat, but vs Melee

[errant zodiac]

no surgen is saving a kinfe in the base of the skull

[fossil fossil]

You said a knife in the liver. L take

[broken rapids]

Imho, Rogue isnt weakest, its way better in some cases than any other class..
Same we can say about other classes too. (Im Rogue only player)

Me personally I dont "cry" about Rogue weakness, but sometimes its so frustrating, that other classes doesnt have to do much effort in PvP than Rogue.

• if Rogue has something extra for PvE, it would be different.. but even with pvp oriented abilities, its weaker than many other abilities, that other classes have.
  (in other hand, yes Hide is strongest thing in the game).. = anyway.. if I play vs rogue, i never have problem hear/expect position where enemy Rogue might be.

[errant zodiac]

it was suppose to be unfair example, cause a knife in the liver is fatal

where a club to the skull tho damaging is not garunteed

[broken rapids]

Also what need to be mentioned is Slow on hit.. every class does a huge slow on hit with weapons.. which doesnt need any perk etc. (Daggers does 3%? dont want to lie sorry).. but when I got hit by anyhting else, i basically cant move since almost every class has sprint/additional slow or CC. aaand their weapon hurts also af.
Imho:
Slow on Hit should be only to legs
Attack speed debuff on Hit into body should be thing.

[errant zodiac]

and than to address the even less accurate part of your comment is so the class that has the lease amount of health is suppose to have no other advantage other than a almost useless stealth and double jump?

[fossil fossil]

You're the one who initially brought up club my hefty buddy. I had mantioned Axes specifically. I only speak to clubs as you made a strange argument based on your discontent with the games damage design.

Just cause i know you struggle to read, ill say it again. Axes/Bigger weapons do more damage because they can deal more physical trauma. A small knife does less damage because its A SMALL KNIFE.

As a rogue, you are supposed to rat and play cunning. If you want to 1-3 tap a class, play BARB....

[errant zodiac]

completely agree with this

[fossil fossil]

Its a loot and scoot class. Not a head on fighter.

[errant zodiac]

and that just not true if i stab you in the back of the head there is no differnece in damage

[broken rapids]

There also should be delay on all weapon combo swings if person miss.(like felling axe)

[fossil fossil]

Then hit headshots and stop complaining. Headshots do 2x damage rn. With a legendary Stilleto having +2 add damage thats 46 damage. Add your poisoned weapon or rupture skill. Boom you have your 3 shot kill.

Maybe rogue isnt as underpowered as u think. Could be a SKILL ISSUE. (Go play the game and stop complaining. Alternatively you could PLAY A DIFFERENT CLASS).

[errant zodiac]

gus you take was an L cause you used a tree in your example people are not trees

[errant zodiac]

go get me a clip you 3 shotting anythng

[fossil fossil]

Ok, let me put it this way... You have a fish, using a kitchen knife you can most certainly cut the fish, right? Ok, cool, now take a sledgehammer, where did the fish go? Oh, its now paste..

[fossil fossil]

I dont play rogue, I like women.

[errant zodiac]

dude now you just a weirdo

getting mad at me cause you're wrong

and than insult me cause what i want to play is barely playable

[broken rapids]

Rogue just need some small CC/blinding
and merging pickpocket+traps

[errant zodiac]

grow up

[fossil fossil]

... I'm trying to explain to you that you're dense. If you really wanted it to be fair, then rogue would loose every time against pdr fighters. Plate mail is strong against knives except in joints if the armour is made poorly. Do you want to have to aim at a 1cm gap to do any damage at all in this game while you're wearing a scarf that somehow stops crossbow bolts from doing as much damage?

[median mural]

pick lock, pickpocket and disarm traps should all be a passive of the rogue class

[broken rapids]

I wonder how the game would change, if they add 3rd ability to use. Q,E+1
Even if its some 1 default ability for each class.

[fossil fossil]

Would be neat, feel like we need more skills first

[errant zodiac]

i would take 1 cm hole if it meant it did damage

[broken rapids]

Tbh It might solve my Rogue decision issues, if go Cuttroat or extra ambush Rupture dmg

[fossil fossil]

Well, you'd do even less unless you aim at eye slits... Arm damage modifiers are less than 100% damage rn. You sure you want to do even less damage? Cause if they go for this type of balancing your class would essentially be naked.

Only thing your armor would protect you from is the cold and sunburns..

[errant zodiac]

dude you might have brain damage

[fossil fossil]

Tell me why im wrong. You play a rat class built for sneaking and avoiding confrontations. There is no such thing as a Font line rogue.

[shy ermine]

Guys, i just saw a fucking rogue throwing 4 knifes and he did 70% of warlocks hp in hr. And tell me how is this shit even balanced, rat with double jump and crazy dmg.

[fossil fossil]

W

[shy ermine]

players who say the rogue is "too weak" are like fkin Palpatine from Star Wars when he said "Im too weak" but he was so strong

[shy ermine]

and tell me guys how i should encounter full move speed rat doing that crazy dmg just by throwing knifes 😄

[errant zodiac]

and if that lock landed 1 spell curse the rogue would have been at 60% hp and bleeding out

[fossil fossil]

good. Fkn rat

[errant zodiac]

def got brain damage gus

[fossil fossil]

You got an eating problem and cant shower. We'll call it even

[errant zodiac]

wow this dosent help you at all

[fossil fossil]

gotcha

[errant zodiac]

but you didnt at all, literally just got out of the shower and i weigh like 155

[fossil fossil]

You're 5'5?

[errant zodiac]

and now going for my hieght lol im almost 5'8

at least i have functioning brain

[fossil fossil]

Thats not a dig. THis is; You're underweight, therefore you have an eating problem. Boom, still got it

[errant zodiac]

how is 155 5'8 under weight?

[shy ermine]

Depends on person 🤓

[fossil fossil]

Probably, idk. I'm ragebaiting

[errant zodiac]

if i was like 135 i would give it to you

[shy ermine]

Haahahahahah

[fossil fossil]

Just is. Skelly

[errant zodiac]

def not large but not sickly

again my brain works

[fossil fossil]

i bet 🤨

[patent mauve]

Make ruins the first floor for every dungeon, keep ice map and goblin caves queues up, but make it so there are red statics that can take you to every map from ruins. A watery cave entrance for goblin caves, a forest module with a layer of snow heading to the ice caves along with stairs leading to the crypts. Add a dock with a boat to take you to the new water map when it comes out.

[broken rapids]

I hope Water map will be starting point to Goblins/Ice Cave.

[patent mauve]

Anything that reduces the queue sizes is good enough for me

[errant zodiac]

why do casters spam casting get to keep up with me when i w key away from them? like sure jump cast but cmon this shit is wack the space range attacks and make or gain while attacking is dumb

[languid acorn]

Change the headshot damage modifier back to 150% or increase the headshot damage reduction on all head items significantly. Get rid of the circle. The key change is awesome but it sucks when you cant use them because the circle closed. Circle is bad. to much head shot damage bad.

[errant zodiac]

also remove chase fucking bullshit perk every one knows it

ok this is the 20th game in a row i cant even get out of my starting mod cause there is 3 people coming to it what is going on

[patent mauve]

What class are you playing?

[fossil fossil]

He’s a rogue.. skill issue tbf

[icy knot]

i mean bro flames the only thing(chase) that can counter the most broken ability in the game(invis) 🤯

[icy knot]

bro flames casters’ basic skill expression, which lets them skip some animation Ms penalty, even though he himself has double jump that achieves the same with twice the effectiveness.

[warped quarry]

Rogue Stealth should hide footsteps against Ranger's Chase

[ashen canyon]

Disagree that's what smoke pot is for.

[scarlet vapor]

The whole point of putting on chase is to find invis rogues

[ruby rock]

[granite plinth]

Nerf long sword

[spark marsh]

I'm already as good at my class as I can be. The other thing is that Slayer doesn't have the mechanics to stand up to anyone. Play the season yourself, you'll tell me how good I should be.

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/662667/slayer-2025-current-offers Demanding improvement for the slayer.

[autumn gale]

That would be dope and we would see more slayer fighters… I use a falchon and short sword… maybe have the animation crossing the two swords together as a parry/block, or let the short sword allow for a block with the ability to counter with your main weapon

[spark marsh]

We have many artifact axes and no artifact for the slayer. There is nothing except for the kum. The left hand is empty. It is completely absurd to equip two artifact weapons. It is costly, and the slayer will not be able to defend them with these capabilities. Why not come up with a 2-in-1 set? Paired weapons could solve many problems. It would provide the ability to defend against unexpected attacks and the ability to use certain abilities in combat.

[spark marsh]

Yes, it would be nice to revive our people.

[broken rapids]

Tbh every class should have some form of Blocking. (I dont count flute )

[spark marsh]

I agree. Most classes have a block. Even archers can block with a spear, and wizards with a staff or sword. Sorcerers are basically cyborgs; they can parry with a longsword and possess powerful magic. A slayer is similar to a bandit, but even a bandit has invisibility and slowing abilities. Plus, he has tremendous agility. And the sword master can't block, funny. By the way, we should count who in the game still can't use the block. A druid with a spear, perhaps. But not in beast form. Not a rogue, they should be given some kind of stun to escape. I would give all wizards and other casters the opportunity to use this block, because if the spell wheel is active, they will no longer be able to switch to the block. Even if they wanted to. It would be strange to add such an option then. Maybe it could be done with a separate button. There are many different buttons on the mouse. Combat in other games was not limited to left and right clicks.

[umbral coral]

ik its a singular nitpick and not entirely the point, but a stun on rogue would be absolutely bonkers xD even if its half a second

[spark marsh]

You're right. I've just seen many moments where the bandit is cornered and his running speed doesn't allow him to escape. And the bandit has no control. At least some kind of slowdown for a second so you can poke and run away. There are caltrops and smoke grenades, but let's be honest, caltrops don't regenerate. Smoke grenades do, but caltrops don't. That's strang

[grim atlas]

better

[spark marsh]

I went overboard with the micro state. But the bandit also deserves some changes. Let's start with the caltrops. So that they can be restored during the match

[umbral coral]

ive been wanting rogue to have the ability to use buckler since the begininng, i feel its slightly lore accurate. but maybe it would make them too strong

[spark marsh]

Daga/ You know, in fencing there is a dagger used for parrying. A knife like this could be given to a rogue.

[autumn gale]

If they allow every secondary weapon to be able to block every class would be able to

[opaque sinew]

^

[icy knot]

Somehow fix blocking and casting spells with magic staff.
Allow player to bind block to different input?

[glacial sphinx]

Imo remove blocking from the spellwheel entirely and just allow it being bound to a button

[opaque umbra]

Fix club hitbox thanks

[warped quarry]

ssf should stay but there should be dungeon recoverable again

[patent mauve]

I agree solo self found should stay for normals, and minted gear should be recoverable

[abstract bone]

i can't wait for SSF to end and market can finally reopen

[patent mauve]

The only thing the market is good for is an easier time building cleric troll cheese kits

[icy knot]

marketplace only for materials, utilities, consumables...

[broken rapids]

Can anyone explain me, why is Rogues Weakpoint ability so much weaker than Bards shriek song?

• 1 target (Song is AoE)
• only usable in PvP = not working to monsters
• huge cooldown
• cant be spammed (like Song)
• its ability who takes slot.

Like, bruh

Make Bards shriek like "Song casting" to one target who he aim, to make it atleast a little fair or buff Rogues WPA

[patent mauve]

It's stronger than the shriek of weakness, shriek is like -30 armor, weakpoint is -50%.

[broken rapids]

Still its spammable AoE, works for PvE, not like Singletarget melee hit Ability.

[patent mauve]

True but they offer different benefits, rogues is better for PvP, and bards songs make him a target. They're loud and immediately let someone know exactly where you are from a greater distance.

[icy knot]

buff flame sprouts

buff every single trap in the game
make it so that in some modules, the player is required to deactivate certain traps to progress to the other side of the module.

[shadow ivy]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/663352/add-a-labubu-emote

get your votes in yall, LABUBU2025!!!

[whole vigil]

make breakthrough immune to pushbags and roots, perk is useless atm

[vagrant stone]

Remove PUBG zone from HR, it's dogsh*t

[patent mauve]

Breakthrough is immune to knockbacks, and I'm pretty sure it works against roots as well.

[whole vigil]

its not, go and test it

[patent mauve]

Then it's bugged, it's supposed to make you immune to slows, knockbacks and roots

[whole vigil]

tell them that been bugged since last year

[spark marsh]

https://youtu.be/oPMYuvudVrU?si=avowX33FBnGf-W9P I can barely fight with what the developers gave me. I'm lucky I didn't get hit by a shield hit. But this gameplay is so unreliable that there's no point in trying with equipment. Dear developers, take heed and introduce paired weapons with block. Swords that will balance the game on slayer. https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/662667/slayer-2025-current-offers

[ruby sonnet]

Hello everyone. Just a friendly reminder: quiver has been a top suggestion for 2 year. The devs even mentioned that they will implement it. How do you expect they will treat other suggestions?

[spark marsh]

I agree with you. But doesn't the absence of a quiver affect the outcome of the battle? And here it's simply impossible to fight someone on equal terms. But that doesn't mean I'm against the quiver; I'll be happy to see new things. Understand, I can't keep quiet; it's impossible to play.

This is a rather strange position; if one proposal is not taken into account, then everyone else must withdraw their proposals.

As a slayer, I am obliged to speak about the problems that surround us.

[wheat mirage]

Rework Bard already. The fact that they never get any updates (except nerfs) and useless skills shows that they are not being tweaked due to it being low-value for time, which implies they are planned to be re-worked, or they're just being ignored.

To be clear. My suggestion would be skills that always add music slots, but the skill impacts what the skills do or stats associated with them.

Songs should be moved away from lame stat buffs that require stringent balancing, and moved more towards the more intangible power of songs like Song of Shadow, Peacemaking, etc.

[icy knot]

Rework Wizard already. The fact that they never get any updates (except nerfs) and useless skills shows that they are not being tweaked due to it being low-value for time, which implies they are planned to be re-worked, or they're just being ignored.

[finite hedge]

I think adding 'alt-look' would dramatically increase the feel of running around the dungeon. If ya'll havent used alt-look before you can keep running forward (or in any direction) then when you hold alt you have the freedom to move just your camera/your character's head. It's so nice to be able to sprint forward, then look left and right to literally keep your head on a swivel

[wheat mirage]

Tell you what, we'll take Arcane Shield off your hands, and you can have the glory that is Party Maker 🙂

[torn goblet]

you don't lose movespeed when you use a or d so why not just use your mouse and turn while walking lol

[finite hedge]

because it adds a fun feature maybe...?

@torn goblet

[finite hedge]

if quiver has been a top suggestion for two years maybe it should have been implemented already?

[ruby sonnet]

I'm not saying withdraw. All I am saying is don't expect IM to listen to suggestions. And that Graysun posting about it is hilarious 😂

It just seems like a waste of time to me. They are not only not implementing the highest voted suggestions: they are not even doing the things they said they would do. So many things were just pushed under the rug and forgotten.

I used to write suggestions a long time ago, but IM has shown time and time again that they are in over their hands and can't handle proper change to the broken systems they implemented in the playtests.

[ruby sonnet]

Maybe, but hey, after 2 years of development quiver guy left the company, so no chance of getting that any time soon...

[full patrol]

You are not a slayer. You are not 'on a slayer'. You are a fighter, who has chosen 'slayer' as one of his perks. It's just...a perk. Sounds like you want to create an entire new class called 'slayer'. It's just...a perk. If you want to block, maybe don't pick that perk and grab a shield instead, pretty simple.

[spark marsh]

I disagree with your point of view.

and I don't have to agree.

[spark marsh]

If you follow your point of view, you may not develop at all. Why bother? It's just a game.

[full patrol]

You can disagree all you want. Slayer is indeed, only a perk of the fighter, that's a fact. Therefor you are a fighter, another fact. And I'll never respond to your 'digs' or 'bait'.

[spark marsh]

I did not invite you for a conversation. God forbid. I am not interested in you or your popular opinion.

[spark marsh]

...

[full patrol]

That's the first thing you've said that I agree with.

[icy knot]

#📢community-announcements message

Pls no above legendary grade weapon.

Just make infinite ammo purple bow that drops from rare to encounter Archer mob @dawn grotto

[quasi berry]

crazy suggestion, report button in arena for arena trolling, i know, crazy and radical but maybe one day we can dream of it together

[full patrol]

Or a super rare "Arrow of Returning" that comes back to your bow after being shot.

[coarse leaf]

by "minor artifact" do they mean the purple items with unique abilities?

[fervent sable]

probably

[patent mauve]

Yes

[coarse leaf]

thx

[icy knot]

"Minor artefact" thank God
I thought it's gonna be another 4 artefacts from HR bosses

[proud knot]

change the add stash tab from a cross to something less similar to the shared tab icon. and change the color. yellow/gold/white are too similar. so many times i click teh add tab when i mean to hit the shared tab. it doesn't help that once you have full stash tabs the last one is the shared, then you swap characters and you are so used to it being the bottom one

[wanton jewel]

It’s not that, it’s that they struggle to balance wizard as the magic resist options in the game are not enough and so aside from directly nerfing wizard they just struggle to make it balanced. As well every class gets its time to shine so stop complaining and just wait until fighter meta becomes a thing again and you will be back on top

[queen isle]

wizard is the only "balaced" magic class (besides for magic missile)
if everything was balanced to the same state wizard is in, game would be good

[heady marlin]

wanted to ask when was the sipe

[limber elbow]

big problem in the game right now is melee and range class ( magic + ranger ) , but what if we got Amazon class with spear , can throw and melee at the same time

[valid rivet]

Let us submit more than once to the minir artifact event

[pale dust]

i havnt seen a wizard in 2 weeks

[pale dust]

yea the useless ones

[queen isle]

ive seen a lot

[limber elbow]

Why play wizard when there is an upgraded version call soccerer

wait for rogue update version call Gunlister

[fierce raven]

Can we please fix Huntress quests. No way I need to complete Frost Mountain 12 before I can do Goblin Caves 7!

[spark marsh]

Forget about them. The hunter quests are the biggest disappointment of the semi-wipe. I expected that at the end of such a long chain, they would give us cosmetics. There are unrealistic quests at the end. And in the end, we got nothing.

Even crazy people wouldn't do this huge chain of quests again. To get nothing.

[fierce raven]

Thats upsetting. Not really chasing the quests down just completing as I go but that's unfortunate if nothing is at the end

[loud dawn]

Of course there’s nothing at the end. You thought they’d add content?

[broken rapids]

I chase only Surgeon for white bandages.
People should get themself right and stopwasting time on meaningless quests tho.
For example my friend just rush quests, finish them and stop play.

[icy knot]

catice too strong?

[granite copper]

10v10 Goblin Caves
Defend Cyclopse
so its a 1x3 tile Team 1 Cyclopse Room / Lift Room ( Mid ) / Team 2 Cyclopse Room First Team to Defeat Enemies Clopse Wins
Or Some type of Attack and Defend Castle Type Shit 10v10
thoughts?

[full patrol]

Doors: Every consecutive time a door is used there is an increasing chance of it malfunctioning, rendering it unusable. It could be unusable in the open OR closed position.

[fossil moth]

Arena Player List

[broken rapids]

Remove PvE mode, 0 rewards - up to uncommon only

[subtle plinth]

@keen onyx can you pretty please add more spells and skills, if not the game is dying and theres nothing that can save it. unless your hiding some bs in the next patch youre approaching the point of no return

[full patrol]

Why?

[broken nova]

bring back gear brackets

[abstract bone]

add blue gear cap to normals

[broken rapids]

PvE should be for learning, not farming over.
THE fact there are full lobbies instead of Classic modes.
Even veterans run there wirh fulgors,etc on bosses.

We need clasic modes to be full of players, not 0 risk PVE mode.

• i fully understand that PvE is great idea for newbies. And it should be in game to learn or teach new ones How to.. BUT…it cant be for farming.

Also Normals need to be capped ro rare.
The fact thar I meet more squire players in HR and super geared people at normals is kinda wrong too.

[limber elbow]

what do you think all the N.oo.b in ironmace will listen ? you remember they remove solo move and more than 5k player blame and want solo mode back ? they did nothing and chill , they do what they want not what player need

[shell lake]

Good suggestions
Lacking slightly in the delete druid and sorc department but I'll let it slide

[icy knot]

• Make named(red) items untradable
• Make it so that only items usable by he class that killed the boss can drop

[queen isle]

wdym by "solo only"

[icy knot]

Improve FPS in ruins

[queen isle]

improve computer hardware (joke)
im pretty sure its the slimes that cause most the lag

[icy knot]

or flying crows above some modules

[fossil fossil]

I second this. Would stop people hoarding the artifacts. They’d have to run them

[drifting elm]

The problem I have is killing others, that's why I love making gold and stuff in PvE, especially since there is no similar game like Dark and Darker without PvP... and I think the opinion It's just not like that for me...and I don't feel like investing a lot of time for anything? The whole point for me is making gold, and I don't see dungeon adventures as robbing other people and carrying out adventures.

[full patrol]

I avoid the pvp as much as I can, I much prefer pve. There are a lot of people like me who enjoy playing this game, but will never be good at pvp. I'm 60, have arthritis in my hands and fingers, very hard of hearing, and with this handicaps, just doing HR zero to hero is about as tough as I want to get. So PvE can also be for people with handicaps who like the game, but not the pvp.

On that note, I don't understand what it matter to you, where I get my gear from? Adventure mode loot is nerfed so bad, it's almost a waste of time to loot anything, and you are worried about people farming it, so they can gear up a little bit before diving into pvp, where you will hunt them down and kill them anyway? lol In the end, you get the loot anyway!!

As far as empty lobbies....that sounds like a pvp problem to me. I don't care if they're full or empty, makes no difference to me. The games current environment is crap, player count is crap, so lobbies are going to be crap, that has nothing to do with adding PvE, and everything to do with choices IM has made.

I'm not harping on class balance issues and such, because I don't care. That's a pvp problem and doesn't effect me at all. So why would anything that is pve bother you? You should be happy when I wander into normal lobbies or HR lobbies, I'm an easy kill, doesn't matter where I get my loot, or what loot I have...anyway, I'm rambling.

[icy knot]

I think end goal of this game is to get gear so you can pvp.
24/7 farm gear in pve? I mean, if PvE is such an exciting challenge for you, then do as you please
should we also have gamemode for blind people that targets only 0.01% of players?
no offense 🙏

[icy knot]

Having a gear cap increase in the arena is a good thing. After players find their blue BiS, there’s nothing left to do in dungeons for some people, so having higher rarities to pursue keeps them engaged.

[frigid berry]

Remove longsword parry for something that isnt a instant win button and make shields breakable. This will be a W change, shields and longsword are broken and in any other game would be nerfed in a week. been way to long at this point without a fix.

[shell quail]

make normals have an uncommon (green) gearscore limit people are just bullying timmys rn

[slender mauve]

I like this

[void atlas]

PLEAAAASSE PLEASE PLEASE no more vendors! I'm begging you! the amount of clicking needed just to sell things/re-up on arrows or meds is absolutely insane! Having to go to two different places to buy meds is wild.. So many of these current merchants could be rolled together easily.

Ex:

1. Alchemist, Surgeon, and Fortune Teller
2. Tavern Master, Treasurer, and Collector
3. Armorer, Weaponsmith, Tailor, Leathersmith, and Woodsman
4. Expressman, Squire, Goldsmith, and Goblin Merchant
5. Huntress, Skeleton, Cockatrice, and Nightmare Mummy (but what are these there for anyway really??)

Nineteen vendors become five, and everyone was better off for it! XD Srsly tho... the amount of clicks in the lobby UI just to do simple mundane things is insane, borderline criminal in fact.. Please stop, no more vendors..

[sage ice]

People shouldn’t be able to shield bash other players in PvE. Sorcs shouldn’t be able to windblast. All people are doing is trolling on exits and gold piles and you can’t report them bc they end up leaving before you do.

[shell lake]

IVE HAD a NEW RevElation

After:
❌ delete druid
❌ delete sorcerer
✅ revert to patch 68
✅ bring back squire lobbies

I present:
No more PvE!!
No more HR!!

The deeper u go, the harder it gets! GG gear is to be collected for the NEW 10v10 capture the flag mode!!
Or arena

Cheers plz spam

[void atlas]

add "BATTLE-PASS" to that list and you got yourself a DEAL! XD

But srsly tho.. when squire lobby again please? =/

Coming back from a short... erm.. "break" lol wanted to see if anything was better with the new ridiculously named "semi-semi-wipe"

Only two weeks into the... semi-semi-wipe... its ROUGH out there, people got some gnarly sheit in normals lol there is like maybe a 5% chance that a person in a squire/green-blue mix kit kills anyone in these norm lobbies I been seeing. And I am pretty okay at the game and have 10k pushing 11k hours.. for someone new? forget it lol..

[tame sable]

maybe let us play the maps we want to play

[frigid berry]

Better anticheat, too many cheaters in dungeon, easier to see in 240 1440. Watching spectator and kill cams.

[abstract bone]

delete warlock bard druid and sorc if ur gonna delete one class gotta take em all out.

[lean beacon]

make melee sorc great again: longer lightning sphere, stone skin and glaciate duration + add magic damage modifier to glaciate

[shell lake]

kinda facts i used to say delete warlock as well bard is ok for sure

[green swan]

yo can yall please remove the headshot multiplier from mobs I love when a black crossbow man one taps me mid fight outta nowhere

[patent mauve]

Make ruins the first floor for every dungeon, keep ice map and goblin caves queues up, but make it so there are red statics that can take you to every map from ruins. A watery cave entrance for goblin caves, a forest module with a layer of snow heading to the ice caves along with stairs leading to the crypts. Add a dock with a boat to take you to the new water map when it comes out.

Change normals to self found minted and "looted" gear only, handled gear isn't allowed. Let high roller be the mode where you purchase your BIS and normals be where you use what you find in the dungeon, bring goblin recovery in normals back for minted gear only at 2x scrap cost.

[uneven spoke]

why do they keep doing the exact opposite of what people want lmao legendary gear in normal lobbies is kinda wild.

like are you supposed to play adventure mode to get gear or play the game???

and why are melee characters useless now? revert everything you guys did with hp.

[icy knot]

Mele characters weak? I thought knowledge curve was nerfed.
Why is mele warlock so popular than.

[uneven spoke]

im specifically talking about barbarian and fighter

the vigor nerf and hp reduction to top it off makes them like playing a ranger in melee

[limber elbow]

game now so boring that the game kick me out after 1 game and say bad connection try another game :v

[whole vigil]

NERF DRUID BEAR AND PANTHER DAMAGE AND SCALING

[rough spear]

change lifredrain to work like lightning bolt

[patent mauve]

Like walking while casting it or what?

[rough spear]

yea not being able to move makes it basiclt non viable

[patent mauve]

Its pretty good in tandem with Hydra

[rough spear]

even there its just decent but besides that it not usable

[patent mauve]

It's probably got more usable moments in duos and trios.

[ashen canyon]

With enough magical healing and pdr, in tandem with good head maneuvering. I can see it being viable, with movement your making a tank that will charge at you, heal while hurting you making it practically unkillable.

[rough spear]

even in that scenario a curse of pain would do better because you could use more spells in that time and do more damage . in general it should get a rework same as dark offering cause nobody is using it

[knotty matrix]

Where in the fu do i make a complaint?

[rough spear]

support

[ashen canyon]

I can agree it needs to be changed, just that adding movement to it isn’t the way to do it. Changed/removed and as for dark offering I’ve been spirit bombed before, it doesn’t get used often but it does get used

[frigid berry]

Suggestion-Please not balance game around trios, Can we code the game to be balanced based on each game mode. solo-duo-trio. Have a list of changes under description of mode. Thank you!

[shell lake]

There could be a big general lobby area that's safe and where you build your party and then go down to whatever dungeon you want

Yea life drain should slow you but not stop you completely would be pog

[spark marsh]

https://postimg.cc/gallery/VzKWsBR Developers, I've created a cyborg! Try to stop me! Leather slayer is no match for this robocop! 48% defense! 30% magic resistance!
20% slow every 5 seconds! He has a block! +5 and more weapon damage thanks to equipment that he doesn't lose after 1 match, unlike the Leather Slayer. Down with the crossbow! The slayer doesn't have the skill to reload it in battle. And the slayer's perks only work on dual weapons.
If you don't listen and do something for the leather slayer, you may lose it forever.

And I will remind you what can change this situation! https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/662667/slayer-2025-current-offers

And the funniest thing is that he moves at the same speed as a leather fighter. This is due to a perk that won't help a regular slayer if he takes it.

[whole vigil]

NERF SORC AND DRUID

[forest fox]

SSF was Fire, change market items to be only useable in PVE Mode. Thx

[icy knot]

Marketplace only for materials
Remove trade from the game?

[thorn vector]

remove druid rat form
remove marketplace
make arena permanent
ive been saying this for a whole year now
theres no hope

[broken rapids]

Actually even with no Circle, there could be random entrances to next levels. (Like current random portals in HR.)
Different symbols/shapes etc like Ice Portal to Ice / Stone portal to Goblins.

• you would have to open it like now (for all same opening speed)
• Portal close after 10 seconds = can be re-opened after.

[spark marsh]

I disagree. The rat form is countered by Molotov cocktails. Are you serious about a game without a market? Okay, always an open arena... If you do that, there won't be any people in the game at all. But this way, people save up resources until the weekend, and there are a lot of people on the weekend, so there's someone to play with. Don't make the arena a gray everyday life. You seem to be a bit off in your psychology... It's like a narrow stream under pressure. Remove it and we'll be waiting an hour for the arena.

As for the market, I think it's a wonderful place. If we remove it, we will lose the value of the treasures. And part of the meaning of the game.

[whole vigil]

NERF SORC AND DRUID

[whole vigil]

not everyone carries molotovs and even with molotovs they survive with full hp rat lmao

[rough spear]

damn man gotta try spirit bombing others

[spark marsh]

1. Change the colour of the crosshairs. They literally blend in with the surroundings. To be honest, I forget about them. Or give us the option to change the colour in the settings. That's fair.
2. Add the ability to write notes about friends. Very often I simply forget who these people are. I'm sure I'm not the only one. This will help me remember after some time when I return to the game. And it will make the game more social.

1. Aiming in the game*

[abstract bone]

quit trying to ruin the game pls

[abstract bone]

Druid buffs are more likely incoming than more nerfs. 5 nerfs in a row

[icy knot]

there are pools of water in goblin caves and ruins. How about you replace some monsters there with few monsters from water map
in next season of course
@DEVS

[uneven spoke]

marketplace is def needed for ppl that don't play all day

[spark marsh]

and for those who play all day long, too)

[uneven spoke]

so then how is it bad?

[spark marsh]

I also say that abolishing trade is complete nonsense.

[rancid halo]

Instead of lifebloom aura making shapeshifting impossible, make it so you can shapeshift with lifebloom aura but not able to use shapeshift mastery with it.

[uneven spoke]

that sounds dumb lol you can fly away and reset even faster???

[rancid halo]

You can’t fly away without shapeshift mastery.

[uneven spoke]

i mean you can rat or chicken

[rancid halo]

Oh yeah. Fly away as in use a cast time to turn into a rat. Then yes. 😂

[rough spear]

sounds funny as hell there should be events like that on a regular basis

[patent mauve]

If you can door hop without shapeshift mastery I'm assuming you can buffer a chicken transformation after a panther leap

[rancid halo]

I’d love to see it. I don’t think you can even door hop without it.

[queen isle]

you can door hop without it, it just requires more timing

[whole vigil]

your crazy if you think any of those nerfs are actually nerfs, I need some actual big damage nerfs and hp nerf to bear.

[abstract bone]

Just because ur terrible at the game doesn't mean they need to gut a entire class 😄

[whole vigil]

your the one terrible at the game for using a broken class

[abstract bone]

Git gud at the game. it ain't druids release they already nerfed it entirely around the table. You sir are just terrible at the game and terrible at ranged.

[whole vigil]

bear tanking 6 halberd hits in squire seems balanced lmao, keep playing your broken class furry boi

[abstract bone]

a druid in squire gear isn't tanking 6 halberd hits and also -40% action speed and -20% MS ur just bad

or ur just really bad at hitting heads which again falls under skill issue.

[whole vigil]

dont get me started with the triple heal spells, easy reset, easy panther poke attacks, easy escapes, thorncoat, silence, bear insane hp damage and pdr, seems balanced furry boi

[abstract bone]

goofy ahah fighter main keep crying that ur trash at the game and can't adapt over easy classes 😄

[whole vigil]

I play all classes, including druid and druid is easy af

I dump on everyone when playing that easy class

[abstract bone]

Keep coping about being bad at the game then. can't even adapt and learn to counter a class 🤦 i feel bad for you espically if you have more than 1000 hours in this game.

[whole vigil]

no point arguing with you cause you still dont seem to get the big picture of how many tools and damage druid has access too in squire compared to others, keep playing your class furry boi

[abstract bone]

Skill issue 🐶 🌊

[patent mauve]

Druid is easy, but what is the suggestion we're discussing rn?

I love cleric troll cheese, but druid cheeses troll with a simple rat transformation

I can see more nerfs to shapeshift mastery, as it's basically the equivalent to sorcerers time distortion.

[abstract bone]

in this case we should nerf warlocks ability to spam multiple curses on enemies to allow for a insane amount of mass healing 🤔

classes need buffs not nerfs boys.

[patent mauve]

Yes

As an avid druid, bard and warlock player, there needs to be a system to stop the power creep from "infinite" classes not having real downtime.

I'll forever complain about how unbalanced Torture mastery is, and bard spamming debuff songs behind doors. Druid gets the crap stick cuz it's so mobile, it's very easy to choose when you want to fight and when to flee, or disengage to full heal faster than most classes who didn't bring blue bandages into the raid.

[abstract bone]

SDF's vision calls for 2 second TTK

[patent mauve]

I'm fine with 2 second TTK, it's that druid can effectively avoid TTK by never engaging in combat that's a major issue.

[abstract bone]

ragebait actually over someone who actually wants to have a valid conversation about how broken some class mechanics are in the overall rather than just focusing on one class

[patent mauve]

I loved druid when it dropped but i called it broken from day 1, it still being this mobile is an issue when it's offensive tools are that strong.

[abstract bone]

the offensive really only got good again when they introduced headshot Xyler

[patent mauve]

Yeah that did make it a bit stronger, it's hard to hit a 7 foot bear in M2 in the head before they hit you for 160+ damage.

[abstract bone]

ehh bear does like 70~ capped in high end

[patent mauve]

Nah it does way more with PPB and headshots combined

[abstract bone]

that was the point of the shapeshift dmg nerf was it pretty much hard capped druids damage.

i have yet to exceed 90~ dmg with true phys/phys power strength stacked around 40~ on players that is. but then you suffer from -40% action speed. without stacking dex/action speed

[patent mauve]

Its 46 base damage M2, add your total strength let's say 34 to make it even 80, multiply that by 1.34( 15% with bear active) for PPB and the. 2.0 for headshots before reduction

[abstract bone]

yeah but no ones eating a bear active esp when you have time to react. bear isn't insanely mobile rn.

[patent mauve]

Even without active it's still over 160

190 before HSR, 160+ even after a hounskull before PDR reduction

A squishy class dies in one headshot from boof kit bear unless they're 140+ HP

I easily beat druids last wipe as barbarian with bardiche but not every class can handle that, and treant door blocks + close quarters can make that a death sentence with little outplay potential, and if someone chunks the druid down, they can panther jump and fly away and reset.

I never mind it myself, cuz I just get troll to bonk druids, cleric troll cheese has its ways

But I can see why people complain about druid, it's a forgiving class if you don't mess up and get smacked while going rat or fireballed

[queen isle]

bard has an easy solution, just make it LoS

[patent mauve]

For warlock I wanted TM to only scale for healing recoverable HP 1(.20-.25) and heal true HP as 1 (0 scaling) that way damage stuck to warlocks more, as only 66% of damage taken is turned into recoverable health. Basically it's the same as it is now until you take heavy damage or receive antihealing.

[sly yew]

So i had an idea that plasma blast should be completely reworked into a projectile (Maybe somthing like a Fire Orb) that had an electric field instead of a flame one and it would move much quicker maybe slightly slower than a fireball. And this could also be at the cost of 20 (1.0) hp or somthing and electricute yourself so it's balanced

[patent mauve]

I kinda like plasma blast as it is now I just think it's underused. it's a speed boosting AOE explosion that you can reduce some of the self damage with a magic protection potion. Probably good for melee sorc

[bitter thicket]

Remove server region lock

[icy knot]

FoW

[whole vigil]

we honestly don't need anymore range spells for sorc, I would suggest they make it an action speed buff that does not remove hp for melee sorc cause at the moment melee sorc sucks

[rancid solstice]

Ppl when a ranged mage class isn't good at melee

[spark marsh]

Unfortunately, many melee classes perform significantly worse in close combat than classes that rely primarily on ranged combat, but close combat is not a problem for them either.

It's called “going crazy with fat.” And some people finish off their bread and salt.

[spark marsh]

like those poor souls playing slayer, who miraculously still exist. They are cursed, magic and arrows fly at them. I wish they would combine the perks, “paired weapons” and “slayer.” Then you could get +50 to all resistances when blocking. With their sad resistance, one fireball is enough to send you flying into space. In close combat, if the target deals more damage, you're dead. You can't block a single blow. Catch all attacks. And you're wearing leather armor. With dermal characteristics. A bard can use a shield and remain a bard. A rogue can become invisible. A slayer loses all bonuses from perks when picking up a shield. Give the slayer a pair of weapons with a block. Please. I had to give up the perk to close the demigod rank. Simply because most of the time you die before reaching your goal, and even if you do reach it, you'll still die. You can't fire a crossbow more than once in battle. Take a bow, minus another important perk, without which the build doesn't work. Pair weapons are cool, but apart from the falchion and the Castilian, the slayer has nothing else. I can't call the arming sword and short sword dangerous weapons. I used to carry them more for fun, and I realized that it was a complete dead end. Even the build itself. Dead end. I just removed the perk and put on armor, gave the man a falchion and a Castilian dagger. In another slot, Pavese I used an active ability called Shield Bash. I easily reached the rank of demigod in two days. Before that, I suffered with a leather fighter and lost my equipment every time. Soon someone will come along and say that a slayer is just a perk. But I say it's a playstyle, a character type like a cleric caster or a cleric in armor, a fighter. One variation of a fighter, for those who don't like the sound of creaking armor. They should be faster (which they aren't) than their comrades in armor.

I feel sorry for the druid, they keep nerfing him over and over again, when they could just come up with more ways for other classes to counter druids. Instead of constant nerfs in 0.

They say animals are afraid of fire...

[gritty juniper]

Remove circle from HR.
The game has enough things to make you frustrated without being frocked by circle in a dungeon crawler. You have bunch of quests and whatnot on finding modules, opening key doors and a randomized dungeon layout. All these things are completely incompatible with having the circle ingame. Especially with continous dungeons being a thing too. Lets say you wanna do the locate pyramid crypt quest in HR. You have 1 in 3 chance you even get ruins map, then its another coin toss whether the module even spawns in the crypts and even then there is a chance the game started 5 mins ago and the module is way beyond the circle. Its just plain dumb. Its the same with key rooms. I actually think its good you have to use them in the dungeon you find them in, but again, circle makes it you literally cant even go there 50% of the games you actually find the key. Same with boss modules.
Circle is just a bad mechanic that clashes with other mechanics that are actually good and makes them frustrating.

[icy knot]

Bloodsap Blade passive is an insult to warlock class.

[abstract bone]

anyways buff druid they are very weak compared to the other classes

[mortal turret]

Hello, I’m here to quickly vent a little because it’s pretty clear that the game has been abandoned by the studio, which personally saddens me since I really liked it at first. I don’t know if it’s because of the issue with Nexon or some other internal matter, but it’s quite obvious that the goal is to just let the game slowly die out. A short list is in order:

Bugs that have been around since release remain unfixed, for example the full-inventory bug that prevents us from stacking items.
Normal lobbies with only legendary gear as the item limit, what a great idea… That way there’s absolutely no chance to start a match with low-tier gear. If you happen to join 2 or 3 days after the wipe, you’re already too far behind. A fantastic idea for new players, who I’m sure will just love getting one-shot over and over again. After all, there’s always the PvE mode, where loot is nerfed, forcing us to grind for hours just to scrape together some gold in order to buy “viable” gear—gear that will inevitably be lost in a fight against players optimized with epic/legendary equipment.

And finally, probably the most important point: absolutely NO new content for months. No new classes, no new gear, no information—only minor additions nobody cares about, and that’s all we get.

Anyway, I know my message probably won’t be well received by the developers, some of whom have made a habit of mocking people who (rightfully) complain about the state of the game. But keep one thing in mind: the only reason your game is even still around today is because players (myself included) kept showing their attachment to it—even going as far as downloading it via torrent. While the game may no longer bring you revenue for external reasons, I personally believe that, out of respect for your players, you should at least be transparent about its future and current state.

[leaden knot]

Game is in a good state L take

[uneven spoke]

make barbarian great again he's unplayable right now.

[icy knot]

Bro thinks it's season 7 already

[queen isle]

Funniest part is a chunk of this is just wrong

[knotty matrix]

This game is literally just a bunch of pub stomping timmys and it seriously the most toxic environment ever bro. I dont even know why I play this bogus ahh game doesnt even bring me any fun. I would rather play destiny 2 than play this garbage. Cant even get a kit against these kitted bums. bring back the gear score lobbies and not this bring in anything up to legendries like bro come on this is why your game is dead buddy gtfo. Bring back the old gear score system. I AM RUNNING SQUIRE AND THESE BUMS THAT HAVE NO JOBS ARE RUNNING FULL LEGENDRIES what is up with that huh?

[patent mauve]

Squire gear lobbies need to come back, and normals needs to be SSF only.

[icy knot]

or just lower gear diff to the ground.
season 5 had good gear

[knotty matrix]

Im now taking a whole season break because solos, duos, and trios is toxic full legend gear full pub stomping timmys bro the devs have no idea what they are doing anymore nor have they ever tbh. Like how do I get glitched into the door during a fight bro let this game make sense

[queen isle]

the people saying "norms needs to be SSF only" but never anything about squire lobbies are dumb, so thank you mr troll cheeser

[patent mauve]

Some people don't want to be stat checked and I can understand that. SSF slowed down the problem of heavily geared players rolling lobbies but it didn't solve the problem.

[queen isle]

"slowed down" hardly, i saw trios in full socketed legos within the first few hours

[spark marsh]

As far as I'm concerned, 0-24 normal was the most pleasant. everything else above that is a high roller).

[blazing vapor]

Try shortening it to fit within the limit

We're reviewing the suggestions page at the end of the month

[low thorn]

as a returning player its really gard to get back into the game in a casual way when everyone in norms s full legendary BIS so can we please maybe fix the damn game

[fringe viper]

please let us run artifacts in arena everyone has some so theres not point in not doing it 😄

[shell quail]

bring back the 0-24 gs bracket for norms so that the timmys who wanna pvp can pvp without losing due to gear issue if im going to die let it be because im trash not cause someone has a ledgendary longsword and plate

also give wizard acess to the basic versions of Sorc spells (NOT the spell combo's cuz that's sorcerers whole thing) or give wizard at least more spells weve gotten 1 new spell since the game released to the public and that was mage lock also if wizard can lock things why cant we unlock them

[livid finch]

Please bring back only squire runs. It was by far the most fun I've had in this game post launch.

[sonic bone]

bring back server select pls my sv ass

[karmic imp]

Just for this month, or will this be a monthly thing?

[blazing vapor]

Every month

[karmic imp]

Could also have sdf in his kitchen explain which ones they look over and talk about them

Would be neat, I think

[icy knot]

I like when SDF is cooking in his #sdfs-kitchen

[uneven spoke]

barbarian needs changes there's like no reason to play him make him have more HP

[stray scaffold]

I think the game could benefit from normals being SSF only and HR has market/trade. For arena, I think losing team loses their gear and winning team gets it. Top scorer on winning team gets first pick of the 3 kits

[spark marsh]

I disagree about the arena. Most people are satisfied with the current arena without losing items. There's no need to make up nonsense.

Better give the block to Slayer. Because it's impossible to play with this. It's just a piece of crap in terms of mechanics. Labuda, you just need to play better. Tell that to the newbies. Maybe they'll believe it.

If I keep losing gear in the arena, then you'll only see meta classes in the game. You can just delete the rest.

[noble mantle]

This is only possible with gear never being off roll. No more flat 2agi ect - only percentage based rolls and on top of that percentages have to be slimmed down to fewer categories. Hp% dmg% pdr% buff% penetration %.
Regardless horrible idea. You people are just as good as ironmace when it comes to game ideas.

[stray scaffold]

or gear can just be off rolled or gemed since it'd be only normals and ssf anyway 🤷‍♂️ it'd actually make finding decent gear exciting. If you want perfect rolled gear you could play be hr or arena where you can buy it from market if you don't want to or can't get it yourself

[stray scaffold]

I don't fully see how it's nonsense as I think it'd make arena much more interesting with the potential for actual risk. And from my experience all you see are meta classes anyway, but I dunno I could be wrong. what's "labuda" mean? slayer doesn't need block becuase that's the point of it. If you want to block play fighter with a shield, though I do agree that mechanic is kinda buns at the moment

[queen isle]

horrible suggestion
"ah yes, lets remove the main factor of why people play arena and what makes it good"

[odd moon]

SSF no stash mode. It would be a roguelite experience and would cater to the majority of the player base that does not have time to build up a stash. Use the current AP system to track score per "life" and have a leaderboard for people to compete. IMO the AP system would make more sense in a mode like that. Being killed by a geared player won't be so harsh because you will know they earned that gear in their current life.

[scarlet vapor]

Give warlock more one-handed weapons. Please?

[stray scaffold]

I mean that isn't what everyone thinks, I myself find that a reason to not play arena actually but that's just me. No fun playing if there aren't stakes

[queen isle]

You want stakes? Then go play HR.

[stray scaffold]

to quote a wise person "horrible suggestion"

[spark marsh]

The arena is only played because we don't lose equipment there and are free to play however we want. To make the arena more interesting, all you need to do is add seasonal rewards. As for the slayer, I disagree with you. Did you come up with that yourself? Or did someone tell you that? Play the slayer and give your personal opinion. Personally, after a semi-wipe, I lose 95 per cent of my 100 per cent battles. Just in normal mode, not even high roll. What kind of damage are we talking about? When a fighter with a long sword runs at you, he hits you 2-3 times and you're dead. He swings much faster than you and does more damage because he has one weapon with fixed damage, not two stumps with the maximum damage spread. Play the season, then I'll take your comments seriously. It's extremely unpleasant that strategies no longer work. A barbarian with a club in his hands simply runs at you and, with maximum intelligence, hits you three times and you're dead. And your blows are like mosquito bites. Although the barbarians have been nerfed and are already sad here, asking for a barbarian buff... I've been writing here for a million years about the slayer, what and why I'm ready to explain.

[spark marsh]

No bets? Let me remind you that this is Test Arena 6. Whenever there is balance in this game, we will receive rewards for the season in the arena. Here are your bets. And losing equipment in the arena... Go eat some porridge, sir. It's just that even more people will delete this game, including me. There's nothing to do except fill up the high roll. There's no fun in this game in normal mode. If we lose fun the arena, then goodbye.

[full patrol]

"There's no fun in this game in normal mode."

For you...there's no fun in normal mode, for you. Just as there would be no fun for YOU if you lost your gear in arena mode, as I feel you should. There are far too many pvp players who have hard core feelings about loot. Where it comes from, how people got it, complaining about it being not fair if they got that purple sword from normals or high roller, like it matters. lol But fuck me runnin' when it comes to that arena, you all want it to be just like the care bear dungeons and give you your loot back. Cracks me up. 🙂

[spark marsh]

I don't quite understand... Do you want to lose loot in the arena?

You've assembled a good set for the arena. You're up against three wizards and you've lost your clothes. Is that what you want?

Or you got a teammate who was kicked out of the game. There are two of you left. The game begins. The result is that your best set is lost.Or how about this scenario: some random person is watching you. They join your group and prevent you from winning. You are defeated. As a result, you lose your clothes... What kind of people are you, not very bright?

Unique people with unique suggestions. It's a shame that developers constantly listen to such people. That's why the game is screwed up time and time again.

[spark marsh]

I think that in a game about losing equipment, each class should have mechanics for preserving life. And excuses like, “That's how it was designed,” don't cut it. I would be satisfied with an option where they say that the game is in development mode. If there is a class based on exchanging blows, it is the barbarian. But even he can block without penalty.

[full patrol]

Well, when the Slayer class comes out, you'll be ready with your input and a fairly solid argument for giving Block to Slayer. Just like how Barbarian is a CLASS and can block, so can the Fighter CLASS. The Fighter class even gets bonuses for blocking!!! Imagine that.

[spark marsh]

You see, a slayer cannot use blocking perks. His build won't work. Plus, if no one suggests changes, there can be no talk of the class appearing. I will suggest changes when I want to, not when you allow me to. And you keep enjoying the game in your class, barbarian.

[void panther]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/649757/use-the-test-server-before-going-to-live-as-an-incentive

[timid current]

Hey just a quick question when did they removed gear score matchmaking and why ?

[spark marsh]

By the way, in my opinion, the blue arena is the most interesting solution for arena tests. It provides an opportunity to try out new builds and classes without spending a lot of money. But the artefact arena should be available at the end of every season, every single season. This is another cool solution that you introduced once. Now it makes sense to save up for artefacts for the sake of a fun moment.

[rough spear]

Will they ever add new perks,spells and weapons to the existing classes?

[icy knot]

In season 7

[spark marsh]

Add the ability to write to a friend by clicking on the icon with a right click.

[frigid berry]

Suggestion-Have admins patrol dungeons in norms and hr and die so they can spectate and report cheaters. Since admins are reporting the issues the team can do further checks.

[arctic lagoon]

lessen the enemy density in Ice Caves, its absurd how many enemies there are and how bad the loot is

also items should be diversified on what they scale off of

example: rapier should scale 65% off of dex and 35% off strength
daggers - 80% dex 20% strength
spell book - 65% knowledge 35% will
staff 75% will 25% knowledge

[arctic lagoon]

actually, daggers 60% dex 25% resourcefulness 15% strength

[polar salmon]

JUST GOT A MYSTICAL GEM OFF A CENTIPEDE And WHEN I GOT OUT ITS GONE. WHY WOULD YOU MAKE A VALUABLE ITEM LIKE THAT IF YOU CANT ESCAPE WITH IT. I DIDNT EVEN HAVE TIME TO GO TO THE TREASURE HOARD SO WHY TEASE ME LIKE THAT

[subtle plinth]

sdf buff demon please. or at least give us some way to prevent people from just running away then coming back later

[ashen canyon]

It’s not as rare anymore, sub bosses and bosses both drop it at a higher rate now, you’ll get plenty of opportunities

[subtle plinth]

BUFF DEMON OR GIVE US MORE SPELLS

OR SUMMONS PLEASE LORD SDF WE HAVE BEEN STRIPPED OF OUR KRIS DAGGER, THERE IS NO NEED FOR A WEAK DEMON

[fresh plinth]

if the scoreboard says 3-0 I shouldnt get a penalty for leaving

[livid finch]

Give back Squires Only. Was the only time I've had fun in this game.

[plain steeple]

For the love of god add gear score people are just as geared if not more in norms just gear checking lobbies make a 124 or lower rest is hr or change how stats work so only purps can have all attributes or true cause new players stand no chance when people are just full bis

[plain steeple]

Devs are learning is what I wanna say but it’s been years they want full bis in norms giving no reason to do hr

[spark marsh]

I suggest adjusting the damage from bows so that at close range, the damage from arrows is less and increases with distance. It's ridiculous when an archer shoots arrows at you at point-blank range, it's deadly painful. And I'm an idi..., I can't deal damage in close combat before the archer shoots me at point-blank range. (Leave the arrow fan working.)

[spark marsh]

Is it just me? I can't see today's vote. The list shows yesterday's candidates.

[small latch]

Can you add option in settings that "turn off leave game button after a geme"? PLS

[icy knot]

They should just move this leave arena game button to somewhere else

I left multiple arena games because of muscle memory...
On a daily basis I'm leaving dungeon game because I don't wanna wait for game results

[ruby rock]

It would be more much better to play Minecraft instead of PVE mode.

[subtle plinth]

real, cant even get my quests done without being steamrolled by geared ppl

[odd coral]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/665817/old-school-runescape-voting-systems-so-that-we-dont-have-flip-flopping-game-desi

OSRS style voting system so that we dont have flip flopping game design

[subtle plinth]

curse of lobotomy when

[fossil fossil]

Just give us 100 minor artifacts. Sounds like a lot but if everyone has strange/op gear then it’s more fair and there becomes a property gear diversety

[subtle plinth]

what we need more than more artifacts is more gear, perks, skills, and spells

[odd ravine]

Crazy idea, get the fuck rid of continuous dungeons and/or the swarm. Both being in the game together is just pure cancer

[spark marsh]

No, no, don't do that, or the game will turn into 100 artifacts of the SDF and change its name.

There are good ideas and absolutely bad ones. What about the Berdysh, which slows you down by 10% after 3 hits? After 3 hits with a Berdysh, the last thing I'll be thinking about is slowing down =). I'll probably die after 2 hits =).Or a crossbow that slows down the enemy... How many minutes must pass for the crossbow's second bolt to hit the same target?)

[icy knot]

And these are top artefacts chosen by the devs from thousands...

[spark marsh]

If there are 100 artefacts, perhaps some class will be lucky enough to have artefacts in all slots.:). We know for sure that the frog boots will be the winner.

An insane number of people voted for crazy mechanics. Imagine a rogue with two jumps. Just how high will they be?

How about changing the mechanics for the arena every week? For example, a week of frog jumps. All players in the arena can jump high. And so on.

Give everyone artefacts that change the game at the start of the match. And take them away at the end.

But this requires creating a separate list of items that cannot be obtained in normal gameplay. However, this method can be used to create fun brawls in the arena. By changing the item rather than the entire game mechanics.

[icy knot]

I'm hoping new artefact will not be a weapon
I'm hoping these frog boots will not be lightfoot boots for balance purposes

[spark marsh]

If you're going to do something crazy, do it in a confined space. That's my opinion. The arena is suitable. If you choose from all available modes.

The fun element is cool.

[fossil fossil]

Limit 2 artifacts then.

[broken rapids]

We need skill tree.

Or Default ability for classes.

• Q+E = current situation
• Q+E+Default ability.

[native mason]

Seems arrows are bugged, majora can confirm, chase seems to be about 8-9 steps behind so a rogue is most certainly able to walk up and stab me, confirmed by using friends in white lobbies. THIS SHIT IS BUGGED SO BAD. Please just look into it. Thank you.

[icy knot]

@blazing vapor @dawn grotto
In #artifact-submissions there is no clear distinction where one artifact ends and another starts. Also, images should come first.

||Just my humble opinion ||
||Have a nice day||

[icy knot]

also either cast speed is so low or life drain is bugged. last 7th tick of healing does not heal the player.

[real basin]

Add Hardcore High Roller [ but , when you die your character is delated or Turn offline in mmeory.

Hr reawrds make on account not chcaracter... so you can play with all character

add server list, create mode off course ppl will pay for servers, on this server ppl will crate self game modes like testing etc

[spark marsh]

Apparently, my concept art didn't even make it onto the list of candidates... How sad—I deleted the game.

[spark marsh]

Deleting a character after death in a high roller? Have you gone completely mad? Go bang your head against a brick wall to reset your achievements.

[spark marsh]

I just realized, Gray Sun artifact... It's a shame I didn't have enough voice left to finish.

[real basin]

HARCORE LAGUE like in POE

[spark marsh]

Well, as a separate mode... Here, it would be beneficial to improve the abilities of the classes so that everyone has an equal chance of winning.

I know I'm not cool. Buff slayer, please. I need a decent weapon.

[fiery coyote]

make one pvm for 1 player dont online for these people need train first

make capture the flag too in one maps dont put npc only pvp

[full patrol]

Slayer is not a class that can be buffed, it's just a perk. Don't like it, don't use it. Want to make a Slayer class, awesome, do it. Fighters have a perk that lets you pick every weapon available, I'm sure there's a decent one in there someplace for you.

[broken rapids]

Slayer is strong af, if you get good stuff.. for example I tried run dagger slayer with crazy ass huge Attack speed and I melted everyone.
Even my Rogue(I main it..) wasnt that good as Slayer fighter.

[merry crag]

remove knockback from sorcerer or add longer cooldown so melee can fight back 🙂

[acoustic ruin]

remove arena rating requirements when playing with people higher than 1800 AR, just have it so your on the highest bracket for your team instead of restricting who can play with who

[lean beacon]

rename game to Barbs and BoClocks

[severe lily]

Add freaking quick chat already. WHY DO YOU NOT HAVE QUICK CHAT?

[desert geyser]

leave the arenas open until the end of this mid-season

[broken rapids]

Cuz there is voice.

[fervent sable]

• devs actually reading suggestions

[spark marsh]

Uncle, go for a walk. You're like a jack-in-the-box.

[spark marsh]

Well, making a rogue with daggers out of a slayer... no invisibility, no double jump, no agility for adequate running. Just a man with knives...I have been playing the slayer for almost two years. I didn't receive any awards for this. It was difficult at the beginning, and it remained so. Barely surviving. A walking corpse.

All I ask is to give him new weapons. Something like an effective pair of swords, not the crap we have now. They need adequate attack mechanics so that the slayer can fight while moving. And not slow down like a basta... when he starts using dual weapons. And at least have a block. So that he's not a helpless wet rag with no HP, armor, or defense. And he never has enough running speed. Even if you add agility to his equipment, it's still not enough. And someone picked up a book, wrapped a towel around themselves, and now they have more armor than you, and they can fight with mobility. And at a distance, too.

It's so funny. Track down your enemy, fall on his head from a great height, start beating him, and die from magic arrows that he started casting without any problems, paying no attention to the fool who fell on him. Even with tremendous diligence, there is no reward. Only death.

[spark marsh]

Play on your barbarian, I deleted the game, I won't bother you.

[icy knot]

mage pve should have higher probability to drop magical weapons

[icy knot]

bring back double jump ms penalty

[full patrol]

You and your thinly veiled insults have never bothered me.

[icy knot]

what do you mean we need

me 2
i would love to see the stats

i preffer higher bracket. 0 - 124

i mean if they lower gear diff everything is playable

i agree
i don't understand what power does rogue use to double jump

artefact frog shoes I can understand. but rogue double jump not

[spark marsh]

I want normal swords. I don't want daggers. If you don't take Weapon Mastery, the slayer is useless. But if there were a couple of swords that could change the gameplay, it would be fun to focus more on close combat rather than long-range combat. I didn't create an archer. But I like your build, you're doing great. Imagine how awesome it would be to stop an attack and move quickly thanks to the reduced weight of one item. One item, two swords. That's cool. Always looking for a pair in the dungeon... Adequate attack mechanics focused on dual weapons. Other fighter perks will provide resistance to magic and armor during blocking, which will increase survivability in critical situations and prevent death from a single spell. But to do this, you need to combine two perks into one: dual weapons and slayer. This will put an end to plate imitators once and for all.

By the way, why is there no access to the vote? Is it just me? I wanted to see today's artifacts.

I submitted such an artifact.

But I haven't seen it on the lists yet. Who knows? Maybe it's there today.

[abstract bone]

allow every class to use the blunderbuss dont just give it to rangers

[spark marsh]

I would make the musket a trash item that can be found on the water map and cannot be taken to the lobby. The musket will be an additional map mechanic that will help you survive in a given match.

My work is missing again. I think I submitted it first. Oh well.

[abstract bone]

pretty sure the devs just picked their favorite submits and put that to voting

[gritty folio]

why they dont create a discord event with the date of the new wipe?

[abstract bone]

because then they'd have to stick to the deadline rather than being able to push it back when they want with amigious timer that changes ingame.

[jolly fiber]

What’s the thoughts on some cobalt or copper rings?

[spark marsh]

good

[jolly fiber]

Miss the days of no kit in normals, a even playing field for all classes isn’t possible anymore unless both are kitted up pretty much

[icy knot]

tru

[broken rapids]

Remove Slow on Hit.

Add slow on Rupture, like achiles strike. that shit is crazy.

[arctic lagoon]

lower the mob density of Ice Caverns, its absolutely horrid to deal with

[broken rapids]

Rogue needs DJ, cuz Rogue doesnt have any single form of block(dont count flute), parry or CC. Every Rogue perk takes off possible damage from Rogue. Also Rogue weapons got nerfed by almost 1/3 of base damage since last year(while other class weapons are still huge). leave movement for Rogue be as it is.

[queen isle]

horrible idea
dont buff run and runner, thanks

[icy knot]

remove slow on hit from ranged weapons? beside windlas?
(tbh it doesn't bother me at all)

[hardy lantern]

Make windlass shoot like trebuchet

[broken rapids]

Make it do slow only to leg hits then)
if hit upper body = attack speed debuff.

[red kite]

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/666132/remove-the-map-and-increase-the-timer

[whole vigil]

MAKE BREAKTHROUGH IMMUNE TO KNOCKBACKS AND ROOTS

[spark marsh]

and icy lightning. After all, it's immobilization, not stun. If it were stun, then it would be impossible to perform any actions.

[whole vigil]

that what I meant about roots, skill is useless atm

[spark marsh]

I support you, brother. Taking the “Breakthrough” ability just to neutralize “Achilles' Strike” is nonsense. Breakthrough should work everywhere. It's not a passive barbarian perk, but an entire ability.

so far, it's a breakthrough for my ass

[whole vigil]

yeah, its a skill with cooldown that does not last long, its easy for sorc to bait that aswell, so I dont know why sdf really does not want it to work against sorc, wiz, push back ranger.

[zinc wyvern]

Can squire lobbies be a thing again?

[errant zodiac]

ahh maybe squire kit sorcs shouldnt be able to 2 hit geared players just maybe

[gritty folio]

when the wipe ends?

[broken rapids]

Instead of Swarm at end of round - make monsters faster, stronger (HR Lich buff)
this could be way better than damage, which activate or cancels a lot of abilities now.

[wanton jewel]

@keen onyx revert to patch 68

[wanton jewel]

What do you mean sdf just wants everyone to have a chance 😂

[arctic lagoon]

Nerf berserkers melee height to make it easier to dodge

[onyx oak]

there should be a bar or tavern where you load n like any other adventure and trade with people in there. you can only trade inventory items and will still cost 15 gc. marketplace should be taken out and only way to trade is through there. team system should be the same as adventure mode only 3s with no fill u can solo

[gloomy storm]

Add an offer to duel option to adventure mode where both players have to agree. If you win you can take any looted items from there inventory and if you die you can buy your stuff back from the gobo same as any other death.

also enable pickpocket rouge in adventure mode but they can only steal looted items. (Make it where they can be killed if they choose to steal)

[spark marsh]

• Are you coming to the bar to trade? That's ridiculous. Auctions are a great mechanic, I don't understand why anyone wouldn't like them. Another thing is access to high-level gear in normal mode. It's complete nonsense that people dress up in BiSS to play in normal mode. Bring back normal squire and this will be the next step for new players after adventure mode.

Previously, quests were done normally, and it was fine. Due to the large number of newbies, the game turned into something interesting, like a moral choice: to engage in combat or not. We read the players' behavior, whether they would stab us in the back or not, etc. And there was a human understanding that the guy came to do quests like many other players. But if our interests intersect, we will have to fight. This made the game less bloodthirsty in normal mode, but also less boring. Of course, there was a dark side. Bloodthirsty nerds who had been raised by Dark and Darker for many years. They repeatedly deceived new players and killed them in the most despicable ways. I remember it like it was yesterday, a barbarian who showed his friendliness a couple of minutes ago in the treasury simply stabbed me in the back with an axe.

I remembered a guy with the nickname HAHAHAHAHAHA who ran around me and stabbed me with a dagger every circle, rogue, laughing loudly and maniacally. And I tried to do something to him with my shield and sword, having just created my character. As a newcomer, I was so blown away by what was happening, and they literally attacked me psychologically with this laughter. It was funny. 🙂

In this regard, the players' first gaming experience is much more important than starting your game with an adventure where you focus only on mobs. and then you go back to normal mode and get run over like a steamroller by that assho... in the legendary biss. You had different expectations from the game when playing adventure games. But why is there such a huge gap between gaming experiences? Where you are not allowed to learn how to fight against people like you, and are immediately given the toughest nerds in the legendary BISS, so that you don't have a single chance of surviving.

[onyx oak]

can we bring back gear score limit?

[onyx oak]

aldo yes the bar is for trading when the market was closed the game felt playable but trading is also a big part of this games money system so i feel like trading with people in real time walkin around askin people what they got could bring a fun part to trading rather than removing it all together

[compact marten]

add stock market and gambling to the market next wipe

[ionic zinc]

fighter just shot me w pesti and pulled out zerkzi and zerkzi hit me cause of pesti effect, also hit me everytime i was hit my his viola, nerf that!

[vestal sigil]

plz let warlocks use kris dagger again, nerf shadow touch if you have to

[fossil vigil]

can we make it so after restarting your game and turning your computer off the game doesn't keep your party size data and then put fill teammates on even though it was previously off thats 2 kits ive lost trying to solo and getting put into dous or trios will fill on with trash team mates which is my fault but its kind of silly for it to keep one player change made but default on the other.

[errant zodiac]

why the fuck did i just take like 90 damage from a shield bash not even to the head

[full patrol]

Because your PDR is crap?

[errant zodiac]

it was acceptable it shouldnt do that much to the legs naked

[broken rapids]

it shoudnt do any damage tho. that shit has 7sec cooldown and base is 40? like rly?) fk that tho.
Give it stun/dizzy effect on hit and knockback.. but not 40+ base damage which can multiply with headshot xd

[spark marsh]

Even though I'm a fighter player. And I have a character with a combat buckler). But I completely agree with you. A 5-second cooldown is insane with that kind of damage. Even compared to a winning blow, it has a huge recharging.

[broken rapids]

I would be totally fine with like 10damage fixed, but 40+ is so much

[spark marsh]

Yes, we need to nerf Shield Bash, I agree with you. Or just change the effect.

I would give him a big recharge. Because it's stupid to hit with a shield every 5 seconds.

[broken rapids]

It should have like 20sec and succesfull block reduces remaining time. that could be fine:)

[frigid berry]

Shield bash being as good as it is should be every 30 seconds. Increase damage to 60 if so. Shields should have a stamina bar that drains as it gets hit and as they hold it up, It drains stamina. After stamina is lowered, Shield is forced to drop allowing people to get hits off and making shields balanced.

Tldr. Shields are broken and op. Need stamina to balance shields and make the characters that hide behind them unable to do so forever.

[languid thorn]

the combat is not even done server side and you think blocking is op
man you are on a different world
play mordhau or chiv and watch real fps combat done proper
now here 3d model blocking is dependent on ping a lot
you can hit a pixel and still count it
should it count? if you hit a pixel after being blocked?

[frigid berry]

Those are games that I do not enjoy. Combat isnt right, Just done their way. Please dont compare this game to that game.

[languid thorn]

if you add stamina just for shields you make the entire combat go to full inept stat check which already is
how about make riposte be from all weapons and shield in a 3d model blocking method like now
tie them to weapons
with no stamina as it is now so everyone can use them
thus allowing ppl to actually fking and make hits actually proper slow so when you reach a range class by the grace of god somehow (if he is inept)
you clap him

[frigid berry]

pdr is good enough. You just want to be able to perm block forever. This game needs balance. Shields have no counter. Every other class has counters? If this game is roshambo the shield doesnt fit in it.

[languid thorn]

why not compare, is not like ther e are not things to learn and discard,
hell
this game would have been 1000x better if
1, copied tarkov quest ideology and rewards
2, copied tarkov market system
3, made content
4, deepend the classes instead of waisting time with multiclassing (all classes doing eveyrhing goes to meta only)
4, proper range and melee combat even with the 3d block idea
5, server side hits and gameplay
6, copied tarkov loot ideology

in a melee game lets remove the other 50% of the melee combat yeah bro
instead make it available on all weapons lol

[frigid berry]

Or just keep the game the way it is and change mechanics to enhance the game. Not turn battlefield 6 into warzone call of duty. The game is dying because they follow trends. They said it themselves that they follow trends of other games. Hasnt worked so far. Perhaps let them implement the shield idea then come back after its implemented.

[languid thorn]

how tfk you even think shield is op when you have 1h with 5 imp power

[frigid berry]

Only one class can prob pull that off. So barb is the only fair fight? That doesnt sound right man.

[languid thorn]

i am sorry dude, but the game is dying because ther eis no content no reason to play
they did not follow any trends
these inept devs only added and remove br circle for 5 patches

what by your own idea say is making the game more inpet by reducing the skill
how about make that skill available more easy t oget in to and hard to master
saying the game is turning in cod is bad but you advocate for it? wtf

[frigid berry]

Hope you have a good afternoon. Agree to disagree. I hope the devs read my post and nerf shields.

[languid thorn]

so you cried about making the game cod, but advocate for it aswell XD
no way
the game is already cod
someone with a shield if literally waisting time when the ycan just better off stat check hold m1

[frigid berry]

And longsword parry. Needs a skill mechanic not a rotate sword to weapon and parry when it shouldnt have.

[languid thorn]

if you loose to LS you are just not aware that you can move your mouse

[frigid berry]

Bruh. I ended this conversation just move on.

[languid thorn]

move your mouse, 90% of ls are not good enough to actually use it
all you have to do is literally press left click on right side move it cross screen to left and during active frames you him him in the body behind the block

[frigid berry]

? Bruh. XD

[languid thorn]

you said you played mordhau, i assume you never even tried to accel or deccel , right?
1v1 servers or just 50v50

[languid thorn]

the server are so ineptly bad that you cannot even REACT to block a swing since there s a delay of more than 1 sec
and you wanna nerf when you get hit before you even see the information XD

[frigid berry]

Not everyone has a bad pc rofl. But this game being good in its current state. 💀

[languid thorn]

i tought you ended the conversation, oh you wanna continue?

[languid thorn]

do you have any videos of what you are stating ?
have you watched oggiesons video for longssword countering?

[livid finch]

Bring back gear score queueing! Bring back squire only lobbys!

[gusty bluff]

what do we think about only 3 ranks per account. your solo duo and trio rank. instead of this crap where you have to rank each character and each party mode. just have 3 ranks instead

[spark marsh]

Why did you decide that shields are a problem? We discussed Shield Bash's ability; it's really too imbalanced and has too short a cooldown. You're exaggerating. This game has the most useless shields of any game I've seen. Don't break them even more; they were recently fixed, more or less.

However, in most cases, all players miss the shield, and it's easy to do so. The only thing they can cover is their head to avoid taking double damage.

As for the combat system, if you add a stamina scale, it should apply to everything: attacks, blocks, and spells. It's nonsense that a wizard can cast spells one after another without recharging until they use up all 100500 spells. An ordinary guy with no magic resistance dies from 1-2 spells. In this game, nerfing shields is the last thing you should do. Shield bash, yes. Shields, no. The problem with this game is that everyone pursues their own class interests. There's no getting around it. So the others need to be nerfed 🙂 I maintain that it's better to buff everything than to nerf anything. After all, nerfing something or someone in the game won't change the flawed mechanics of your helplessness.

And if everyone in the game can fight like lions, with dignity, thanks to adequate mechanics, there won't be a problem with someone being stronger. "Please nerf him to the ground. Or even lower."

I also recommend paying attention to what DPS is. How many shots does an archer make, and how many times can a particular class strike in close combat? In the database. The fact that an archer has insane rate of fire and a melee fighter cannot deal damage in close combat before dying from a ranged class. No class has the ability to deliver five strikes at once or deliver three quick strikes, and so on. The damage dealt by bows and other ranged weapons still increases with physical strength, which leads me to various conclusions. It's a mystery how physical strength can affect damage from crossbows and other mechanical weapons. And it's impossible to pull a bowstring tighter than its maximum tension. but physical force can affect the speed of reloading and the speed of pulling the bowstring.

I'm not saying to nerf it, just think about it. That shield is definitely not the cancer of this game, that's for sure.

[languid thorn]

this guy above is an inept, he went to message me crying about why i reply to his messages XD
like is an open discord LOL
and blocked me :)))))))

[spark marsh]

Well, it's up to him, it's everyone's choice whether to communicate or not.

[icy knot]

I mean shield bash needs to be op either it would not be playable

[placid crystal]

Change trading and merchants to a cyclic on and off, being ON all the time enables everyone go full geared all games and that's kinda counter-intuitive, they come geared from outside the dungeon while the dungeon should be the place to come geared from, so Merchants have a day of the week for each one or smth like that and trading is like ever day 15 of the month or smth like that, so everyone can gather some resources while its off and get some value cuz of the difficulty of saving it for later and not wasting it, or deciding using it to get more gear... For me, that's a thought that i had some days ago, and i feel it fits the game.

[spark marsh]

I messed up and hastily sent the artifact description text... What an idi... I am. I will send the correct description with your permission. I don't expect to win =). I'll just correct my mistakes.

1. What is the name of your minor artifact?, (Split staff of the flame priest)

2. Which item is it based off of?, (Paired blades)

3. What is the unique ability or effect of your minor artifact?, (Increases the owner's running speed when attacking. Stacks up to 10%. static attribute. magic resistance 50) This artifact is based on twin swords that can block attacks.

4. What is the flavor text for your minor artifact?, (This once sacred artifact was defiled by a sea of blood and thousands of lost souls.
   They say the owner lost his mind and split the artifact into two pieces. After that, the artifact became a harbinger of death.
   Madness pushes us to do things that are not always right.)

5. Why should this be added to Dark and Darker?, (Because there are no weapons for a slayer. A slayer's weapons are always two blades. After all, he is a master of dual weapons.)

6. (OPTIONAL) Please share a rough concept art of your minor artifact, ai is allowed. https://postimg.cc/gallery/RSp436v

have a good game

[obsidian moon]

Hello,

I would like to suggest an improvement to the current religion mechanics. Right now, offerings and in-game statues that grant buffs exist as separate systems. I believe these could be merged into a more immersive and rewarding feature, similar to how religions were handled in Gothic 2.

Concept:

Players can choose a religion that is tied to specific statues within the dungeon.
When praying or interacting with a statue of their chosen religion, the effect of the offering level determines the strength of the buffs granted.
The higher the offering level, the stronger the blessings from the statues.

Risk–Reward Element:

If a player interacts with statues belonging to other religions, they can still receive a buff.
However, this would come with a drawback, such as a small health penalty or a temporary debuff, emphasizing the importance of commitment to a chosen faith.

Benefits:

Adds depth and long-term progression to the offering system.
Encourages role-play and strategic decision-making.
Strengthens immersion by tying together lore, exploration, and mechanics.
I believe this approach could enrich the gameplay loop while keeping the risk–reward nature of the game intact.

[random depot]

Fix the RNG associated with the Banshee will you. This is an easy fix. Her could moves to quickly to dodge and does too much damage. She's already untargtable and after the cloud form comes racing toward you and you successfully dodge it there is no counter play if decides to go the exact direction you dodge to. Please fix that, it's absolute BS

[icy knot]

keep the region lock

[icy knot]

I feel like Cleanse would still be too weak if it only gave Bless but we'll see

[icy knot]

why not increase gear cap for arena every 2 or 3 weeks

[dark lynx]

If they gave it a mini heal if it removed a debuff i think it be more viable. like 15hp or something but only if it removes a debuff. Cause right now its a wasted cast. or just make it a perk so your heals just cleanses the target as well

[icy knot]

keys were good content locked behind legendary status
what about artefacts?

[icy knot]

is ray less effective with more spellcasting speed? bug?

[full patrol]

Doors: Every consecutive time a door is used there is an increasing chance of it malfunctioning, rendering it unusable. It could be unusable in the open OR closed position.

[narrow sinew]

Once again requesting something the entire community wants: Please rethink your stance on the circle/zone. Almost nobody likes this. Remove it, and never bring it back again.

[hazy cairn]

New weapons, new abilities.

[narrow tree]

please remove the drain map from arena in s7 ffs

[kind yacht]

Make doors work like chests. Opening new doors takes time, but opening already opened doors is fast. And you can lock doors to make opening them take long again

[spark marsh]

Are you serious? You won't give Slayer a block? But you'll give it to everyone else? That's disappointing... Please say something positive about the future, I beg you. So that we know when to expect changes in the game play.

I understand, of course, that my opinion is not popular. But that does not mean it is not relevant.

[icy knot]

They said they cooked some stuff for Slayer

[spark marsh]

Wow, I'll be looking forward to it. Thanks for the news.

[abstract bone]

Sure hope warlock's TM gets gutted so they can't melee when they have the perk selected

[icy knot]

I mean there is way less magical healing on gear. Tm kinda balanced now.

They still can mele but as a caster they have little to no strength

[abstract bone]

Mmhm No. they should lose entire melee access. and lose access to half their spells taking TM.

Perks are suppose to be negatives afterall like @keen onyx says.

[serene mica]

@dawn grotto Please impliment the crafting of better quality bandages like there are healing potions as well as Throwing knifes and Francesca axes

[fossil fossil]

1. Make crafting not quest dependent. Just have the gold required to craft lowered.
2. Give quests actual rewards, this green tier shit is useless in a pvp extract game where every chest gives you blues-purps on a regular.
3. Give us artifact crafts as quest rewards. They can be crazy expensive, but they should be or able to be found at an extremely slim chance from lions head chests and up.

[shell lake]

i just want squire lobbies back so i can:
1)ape down somenoobs
2)skillcheck nerds that actually think they are good at the game but lk just farming duo ice cavern HR and play marketplace like the stock market b4 mixmaxing their characters like a barbie

[arctic lagoon]

Offensive bard songs should need to be perfect so they cant exploit the fact they can skip notes, its absurd they can get rid of a large amount of pdr by just spamming a spell

[full patrol]

Random dungeons for picking High Roller is a horrible game design, revert this back to choices. Remember kids, choices bring more players.

[unborn agate]

fix the mobs in ur shit game

[dark lynx]

So problem with that is certain classes excel at certain maps. Barbs are amazing in gobo cave u cant toucha rogue on castle and locks farm so fast with the amount of mob density in Frozen. By making it random its nice because u see all classes in highrollers vs player just picking the map their class/build has the upper hand. I know i only listed 3 buut all classes have a map they prefer. By making it 1 random q u make the q not so bad with the low player count and it makes the games more diverse.

[full patrol]

So problem with that is...it's not beneficial to the game to remove something that people like (choices), and to force those people to play a map they don't want to play. And to do that, just to put a temp fix in another area, is very poor game development and production. Low player counts cause long ques and small lobbies, fix those problems, address those problems, but not by force funneling everyone into a que they don't want to be in, THAT will make the game more diverse.

[sly yew]

I actually really like the idea of a clense giving a lesser heal, maybe at a .5 scaling

[dark lynx]

Again it does not classes will go to the maps they excel at. Most games have a random match feature especially when it comes to rank. The Random Map also increases the difficulty. If you do not like the HR then stick to norms where you can still chose the option is still there. Noone going to not play because random HR. Especially since there is no gear limit in Normal games now. Focusing in on a random HR mode is the smallest of the "issues". Id rather see some form of 0-124 lobby so when you play a norm in grey squire gear you dont run into a legendary who looks at u and kills you, since this does stop player late to the wipe or new to the game not have a fair shake discouraging them to proceed. But again random HR is better for the game becuase it not only increases difficulty slightly it diverse the char pool in a game and a big one for me is it makes it harder to que with a friend. In choose a map HR me and bud were 3/5 queing at the same time in past seasons. This season we were 0/5 not a huge number pool so dont take it to heart . But i am much happier in random HR. I have not seen to many teamers (me personally in solo i have seen 0 in 20games or so) or what we use to call "China Gang".

[spark marsh]

I liked the random feature. Thanks to it, you don't encounter one-map nerds as often. And it forces you not to become a one-map nerd yourself.

[spark marsh]

Well, I doubt that people left because of the random high roller. +Farming the demigod has become less boring. but I get what you don't like, I understand.

[icy knot]

Random HR is good

[fresh plinth]

only if its actually random and not 75% ice map

[compact plume]

i have a valid suggestion Fix the thing to Block other Players (cause when i try block someone cause are scammers/bot/spammers cant be blocked for some reason)

i cant belive how many seasons have been this way kinda annoying

[winter idol]

i made a suggestion to recapture some of the casual playerbase through giving them goals to achieve.

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/667352/goals-for-casuals

upvote if you like

[spark marsh]

Suggestion not found
This suggestion...

Regarding the communication system. Please allow us to publish text notes on our friends' profiles.
Personal notes, so we don't forget the people we've met.

[winter idol]

link works for me

but youre right it doesnt show up when i load the website. maybe website is down right now

[shell lake]

10 vs 10 capture the flag mode with a set of gear that never wipes and that u can only use there, your forever BIS set across wipes to use in a new mode pog

[icy knot]

you are suggesting there is hidden system that makes ice map appear more often
or maybe every time ice map appears you remember it because of frustration of having to play it

[winter idol]

so i remade the suggestion to give casuals more goals to persue. should work now.

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/667383/goals-for-casuals

upvote if you like

[primal knoll]

Put a training area in the menu's or as a map so you can test your damage

[sly yew]

Spells perks and skills should have to be unlocked. Example: burn an enemy with a fireball 30 times to unlock explosion somthing like that. Kill 50 targets with fire type spells to unlock fire mastery. Block 100 hits to unlock shield bash

[granite copper]

10v10 Goblin Caves
Defend Cyclopse
so its a 1x3 tile Team 1 Cyclopse Room / Lift Room ( Mid ) / Team 2 Cyclopse Room First Team to Defeat Enemies Clopse Wins
Or Some type of Attack and Defend Castle Type Shit 10v10
thoughts?

[broken rapids]

Bruh there is 4 months bugged Harpy who swing air behind herself instead of frontal air push... u rly think they can handle this?

[full patrol]

Looting: Looting should be available only in your non-altered form. Ex: No way a rat can loot a full size potion, let alone anything else. But he has potions on him you say..."Yes and those went through the transformation spell, just like the rest of his gear.". I mean really, if you don't have pockets or proper opposable forepaws, what are you possibly going to loot?? @keen onyx @dawn grotto @fossil seal

Doors: Every consecutive time a door is used there is an increasing chance of it malfunctioning, rendering it unusable. It could be unusable in the open OR closed position. @keen onyx @dawn grotto @fossil seal

[jolly fiber]

please give us the 24 lobby back its gear only pvp it lame

[compact plume]

Spawning on HR Ice map, insta dying to skelletons that was on the spawn, gg ironmace

[neon ivy]

can we have a gambling mechanic added instead of religion for a gold sink, maybe the gambling goblino who plays blackjack

[abstract bone]

L idea. rather would stick with gold sink.

[neon ivy]

youre telling me you wouldnt wanna bet 10k gold on a single round of blackjack wioth the gambling goblino

[balmy holly]

i love gambling, on another note does anyone know what the bounty hunter thing next to my name means

[sly yew]

I would rather each religion be tied to a shrine and interacting with them gives exp or maybe sacrificing items at the shrines aswell

Maybe if you interact with one shrine it gives -exp to another religion

[icy knot]

패치가 아무 문제 없이 잘 되면, 따뜻한 코코아 한 잔 마시고 푹 낮잠 자요 — 그럴 자격이 있어요.

[sly yew]

❤️

[merry gazelle]

can you make it so I can empty gold coin bag in one click? having to do 10g at a time when there is 1000g is cringe af

[upbeat barn]

whats everyone think about a monk class

[untold badge]

Arena changes
Reduce mobs to 30% of current (tried none but warlocks complain)
Make all mobs normal no rng
Remove all mini bosses from the skeleton mage up. Nobody likes dealing with bosses.
Have consumables reset every round (it’s annoying to refill arrows and meds. For players with a ton of money they can have infinite anyways and just makes the gameplay loop of arenas more enjoyable.) for balancing have a throwable (5 stacks max) and trap limit (1 stack max) drums (5max)
This also allows you to remove the lag from arrows and throwables collecting and you can just reset map every round reducing lag
ALLOW BARDS AND CLERICS TO BUFF WITHIN THE 10 seconds before a round. There’s no reason you can start casting buffs prior to the start of the match. QOL and doesn’t give any advantage just makes it less frustrating.
Have mobs reset third and 5th round

[fossil fossil]

Anyone know the tick speed of bloodthirsts' damage?

[sly yew]

Lightning Mastery rework: Give 5% lightning magical damage bonus and increase the duration and strength of the electrified effect by 30%

[abstract bone]

let druids multi class

[full patrol]

And hide, druids should get hide too, and better heals, they should definitely have better heals. And the ability to wear plate armor with a passive block perk, a blocker druid, that's the ticket. Oh, don't forget a life tap, like warlocks get, druids should have that too. But honestly, they should have some sort of see-invisible as well.

[cinder orchid]

get ou- 🗣️

[winter idol]

thats a pretty cool idea mate

[winter idol]

pretty dope idea too

[subtle plinth]

why doesnt ray of darkness track like sorcs lightning beam? either make it track or buff it plz sdf

[errant nova]

Has it wiped yet

[icy knot]

So there is a difference
||Make your own game||

[subtle plinth]

That difference also makes it the worst warlock spell which is why I included the bit about making it track or buffing it

[subtle blade]

They should increase the character health pools to make fights last longer, add block-riposte to most weapons to encourage a more skilled playstyle and less zerging, and buff caster spells of all sorts to make up for the buffs that would give to melee weapons (not by increasing damage but increasing utility and control).

[icy knot]

Ray of darkness is the strongest warlock spell
Ask warlock mains

[spark marsh]

Today, a barbarian masterfully killed me. He masterfully swung his one-handed club. He masterfully swung it from side to side. And I masterfully took it. And I will continue to take it, because I am a slayer, I don't need a block. I hope the barbarian will also block my attacks with his mighty club, to make it even more exciting. I hope the developer will listen to my suggestions and create an item with two weapons in the hands. This will result in: less weapon weight, block, activate fighter perks, provide a good combo, balance damage between weapons, and make the attack slowdown the same for both hands. Oh yes, it will make the slowdown during the attack adequate. And not -80% because you are fighting with two hands, with different weapons.

But I will hope for your surprise. Which was from you. For the slayer.

[subtle plinth]

IM a warlock main and it is our worst spell, not only does it not trigger half the time on moving targets, it has very low dmg because it does not brighter on moving targets

[spark marsh]

And warlocks have pretty funny black bolts. The coolest thing about warlocks is their curses, which eat away half of face for their effect. They don't fly across the whole map, they instantly reach their target. And your dark rays and bolts are a joy, because they allow me to take a little break while fighting you.

[sly yew]

Sorcerer skill: Spellblade Sorcery, imbue your weapon with the selected spell in your spell wheel (effect lasts until you hit the target and puts the selected spell on cooldown

[spark marsh]

And please put a crossbow in my pants so I can shoot if things go wrong.

[subtle blade]

I think i'm understanding it as you agreeing, still their game buuut i can always hope 🙂 I just dont like 1shot metas, i dont understand how people find that fun or like good game design (imo)

[spark marsh]

two crossbows from the nipples

[subtle blade]

nipplecrossbows would go hard

[exotic crescent]

I have genuine question about emote wheel, why is it different on each character, it would be much easier if it would be as account-wide customization rather than having to customize it on each single character, have IM addressed that in the past before?

[spark marsh]

Yes, I fully realize that this is their game. But as a player, I have the right to make suggestions. And to hear the answer if I ever get the chance to do so.

[spark marsh]

Well, look. With one character, I want to fart and burp. But with another, I'm a completely different person.

[exotic crescent]

bruh, ur argument makes no sense at all

[spark marsh]

as well as your suggestions

[exotic crescent]

Ad Hominem, could predict that, glaze and defend boldly

[dawn needle]

suggestion: release update

[broken rapids]

Bruh tracking is supereasy in this game …

[stable sand]

They should make a quest to kill a number of players while using an artifact. So that way you can just use artifacts rather than just hold them for value.

[icy knot]

GL free to play players

[abstract bone]

@keen onyx you forgot to buff bear/panther form in exchange for taking away 3/4 of the toolkit.

[floral zealot]

please change exploitation strikes damage to just flat magical damage instead of damage over time the extra damage does nothing bc #1 you delete all damage on the stack by hitting the same player 2 times (since it does not stack and is more like a poison effect than real damage) and 2 you loose out on all of your damage from a real weapon meaning you can only use it to heal but not very good bc you will be dealing like maybe 5-10 damage per swing and having to eat hits from an enemy and still not be able to just out heal them if they are attacking you. before explo strike was good bc you could out sustain and trade in a mele fight but now demonform as a mele class becomes non viable bc how do you kill ppl? since you heal off of enemies hp if you tried to mele them you would just not heal at all when you switch to exploitation strike (since they are already low and you heal based off of THEIR max hp) and use what is pretty much slightly better rouge poisin with bare fists to finish them??? so now demon form is non lethal meme build where you punch ppl with bare hands AND YOU STILL HAVE TO MELE PPL TO HEAL OFF THEM when regular warlock can do it from miles away i HOPE its better than it sounds but like demon form was already bad and barely viable why why why did it need a huge nerf

[broken rapids]

Merge Pickpocket+Trap/locks

[opaque raptor]

Imagine ray with the new dark offering duration lmao

[opaque raptor]

Just keep a pet skele champ around so your heal is crazy ez still worth
Lol but in all seriousness this is insane considering all the buffs the other lock playstyles got. I think they're scared of a combo between exploitation strike, shadow touch, and the kris.

[floral zealot]

honestly it could be more of a buff than i originally thought since of the 15 second duration but it will still deal like no damage even if it is good witch will be very silly

[limber basalt]

can we get some love for wizard?

[wise temple]

I've placed a suggestion, awaiting feedback, for the standalone Blacksmith launcher version of Dark and Darker to be added to Geforce Now (currently only the Steam version is available). If anyone is in the same boat as me with an EGS account transferred to Blacksmith, please take a look at the suggestion once it's approved. Thanks!

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/667876/geforce-now-blacksmith-launcher-edition-of-dark-and-darker-added-to-service Here it is, please consider giving it a look if you're a GFN user

[fossil fossil]

@blazing vapor could you ask the big man about putting in a tm/tp counter stat? Would be easy and really nice for quick kit summary

[stoic cloak]

LMFAO TYPICAL IRONMACE FASHION AN EXTRA 3 HOURS LMFAO

[remote flare]

Suggestion: Be Better devs and have an ACTUAL FCKING RELEASE PROCESS holy clowns of devs

[abstract bone]

you know damn well u still gonna be playing

[sterile wasp]

I suggest not delaying the game any further

[remote flare]

no i wont lmao, you can check my account if you want too im samsrogue

[wheat veldt]

It seems they usually take another few hours to complete major updates. I would recommend just giving a conservative 12 hour window as to under-promise and overdeliver, so that they don't end up having to apologize and keep disappointing excited players.

[full patrol]

Yep...every single time. lol

[severe flame]

I suggest letting the rogue use the cutlass and giving him some pirate themed perks

[weak gale]

15 day wait for Arena is GG. I can't wait like that. Doneski off to a new game mode sucks

[fresh plinth]

penguin needs bigger hitbox for the left click unless I'm missing something

[verbal nimbus]

#freeDruid

[abstract bone]

Buff druid forms @keen onyx no reason to have mega negatives if we can't even heal

[verbal nimbus]

real

one player spawn litteraly in my room when the game start and he didnt have a gear restriction this season be already stuppid i think

open lobby is a bad idee

[grizzled whale]

🚫 🙅4 SHIPS 4 STOPS 🚫 🙅 ✅ ✅ 1 SHIP 4 STOPS ✅ ✅ PVP ON SHIPS

[weak gale]

I do not understand at all why ArenA is not always up. The 15 day delay is killing me. Why? just WHY? Big sad.

[verbal nimbus]

i spanw and he have fight in front of me

nice dev lol

[broken rapids]

There is so many quests that there should be some button to give all items in inv to each merch at once

[balmy lotus]

@keen onyx buff druid!!! shapeshifts need a reduced cooldown on stacks, shapeshift mastery needs healing back, and forms need some buffs

[verbal nimbus]

REEL

DRUID HAVE 0 UTILITY RIGHT NOW !

[lethal zodiac]

NGl the infinite amount of quests to unlock shit actually makes me not want to play the game, am here for the pvp not to play MMO leveling quests every season... make every quest item a 1x1 or give us a "tarkov ass"/"tarkov secure container"not necesarly take it as far as dead stays but inventory space feelsl ike shit rn with so many quest items and not even an indicator for current quests

[lethal zodiac]

because you can "trade" in arena and instead of implementing a proper fix they just "band aid" disable it

[plush sparrow]

i wonder who had the idea of giveing ranged caster access to the such strong meele weapons like longsword,seriously worried about their brain

[thin crow]

is the season rewards bugged? I can't get my name plate.

[spark marsh]

Thank you, developers, for strengthening the Slayer perk, allowing us to fight with weapons in our hands. However, the Ranger's shooting under the bow is ridiculous. The Ranger sees me and shoots under the water with a bow, and you can't really dodge in the water, and we don't know how to block yet. And shooting a bow in the water is pretty funny. I'll have to fill the bathtub with water and try shooting a bow. Oh, you have a pool for that! I saw it!) I hope that in time you will add weapons in the form of paired weapons with a block. I love you. Your “from rags to riches” mode is very funny, cheerful, and cool. It's nice to take a break from constantly dressing up in the lobby. A new hat for the slayer, funny =). You can cosplay Zorro from “Van Piss” xD. Master of three swords. xD The crossbow is still not unlocked. But I feel that soon all slayers will take up rapiers and magic spheres. If no new weapons appear, this will be the most effective strategy for playing as a slayer.

[spiral horizon]

I cant claim my season rewards and it shows I did not even play the season, as my points had been erased

[mighty fulcrum]

i think a great thing to add would be like a little indicator for quest items kind of how tarkov has. and then maybe a different color for daily and weekly quests. just to show its something we need especially with how many quests there are now

[whole vigil]

PLEASE MAKE TRAPPER HAT BE WORN BY FIGHTER too, rangers dont need another str hat, seriously only 1 new hat for slayer to use that every class can wear and it does not even have str on it @keen onyx

or atleast make the woolen cap to be str,dex,agi I dont need the vigor

[smoky sonnet]

Great job Ironmace , love the new map

[icy knot]

Just fight in the dungeon 👁️👄👁️

[soft turret]

Does anyone know how to fix the bug of not being able to see the surface of the water?

[spare summit]

make the faustian thing based on player kills rather than lvl/xp

[soft turret]

Does anyone know how to fix the bug of not being able to see the surface of the water?

[abstract bone]

buff penguin form pls @keen onyx

[broken rapids]

Since there is no Fog of war, and people use alternative maps for location quests.. maybe add small names on map modules ?

[floral zealot]

PLZ revert the shadow touch changes it being dark magic damage means whenever you hit anything you waste your stacks from soul collecter

[floral herald]

make logs stack

[gleaming tapir]

Can we place get the wood to stack? That would be awesome

[distant egret]

WHY CAN ARCHERS SHOOT UNDER WATER SDF IS OUT OF TOUCH NEW CEO

[broken rapids]

I bet you didnt met magic missile wizards yet 🙂

[orchid hinge]

So over high roller Que times and not being able to play crypts

[distant egret]

i just did haha

Obviously not tested theres no way you swim so slow and if a caster can cast across the whole seafloor should limit cast distance to light radius or something

[naive ivy]

squire to riches should have duo's/solos

[subtle blaze]

fix crystal ball sorc

[icy knot]

Add swimming shoes to the game.
Maybe as minor artefact?
@keen onyx

[brave ember]

Shoes should be removed from squire.

[whole vigil]

allow fighter to use the new trapper cap headgear please or the beret @keen onyx

[ebon terrace]

Why the fuck does barbarian treacherous lungs not affect blood exchange..... its fucking shouts

[queen isle]

just admit you got a foot fetush big man

[limber elbow]

one more deadly information, if you want to farm antiquated coins, someone must be willing to turn into a monster after death, then they will drop coins, but if no one wants others to farm coins, no monsters will be transformed from players, but if a group of 3 people die, 2 of them turn into monsters and accumulate, it will become a playground for a group of people to farm money.

[quick cosmos]

Wizard needs multiple buffs, why does every other class get crazy new gear and reworks we’ll the wizard is left to die ranger is just a better form of wizard damage from a far and it’s such an easy class to play well wizard is one of the hardest classes to play is takes way more skill then most classes and if you make one mistake you’re dead

[dim hill]

bring back lantern glow

[agile hedge]

Can we bring back the quest log only showing quests that are applicable to the map you are on instead of having to scroll 3 pages worth of quests mid game

[dim hill]

^

[brave ember]

I was never hiding the facts. I want to hear those feet slapping again.

[abstract bone]

better than ur class getting 8 back to back nerfs. just be happy it doesn't get the random guttage of SDF

[broken nova]

what class u play?

[icy knot]

Shooes that allow you to walk on the surface of water for limited time 🧠

[mental nebula]

this would be a nice idea for a pair of shoes tbh but instead of walking on water swimming flippers for extra move speed in water

[whole vigil]

allow fighter to use the new trapper cap headgear please or the beret @keen onyx

[simple bluff]

Why were Windlass dmg at poor quality was 37 at the start? Didnt its dmg were increased?

[abstract bone]

@keen onyx please nerf every classes perks and give a bunch of them negatives to fall more inline with the vision ty.

[subtle plinth]

demon pact on warlock would be so much more viable with the recent changes if the claws could block and had a longer range

[distant egret]

you magic missile if some one is under water it glitches in side and 1 shots

[flat gull]

what is the point of the description of penguin form saying it moves very fast in water, when panther for is 5 base ms slower? XD whats the point or at least change the wording

[broken rapids]

Imagine playing Rogue and you cant use 80% of perks at water map

[jade current]

remove rouge after druid

[shrewd spoke]

The increase defense/damages against undead and demons bonuses on équipements should be higher, at the moment they are the same than the normal ones almost, making them not worth having!

[spark marsh]

Lace-up boots with 3 agility. Please give them back their 8 movement speed instead of 7. (After the nerf, they lost their uniqueness and became unplayable again). Instead, you gave the boots for the wizard 8 movement speed, a sort of marathon runner with a beard in his old age. It's just that instead of agility boots, everyone will use agility+dexterity or agility+strength boots. (And agility boots are cute, too, it's a shame they're gathering dust).