#suggestion-discussion

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glacial sphinx
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comparing it to the real world while questioning why you move slower moving backwards?

unkempt sluice
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is there any way to give clerics some kind of range? like i know we have earthquake and locus swarm to help from a distance and im not asking for crossbows or bows. just maybe some throwing knives or something to just help somewhat

soft nebula
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for ranks, i think having a solo rank, duo rank, and trio rank should be it, no more character based ranking, this would help with smurfing and also help players who like to play multiple classes

mystic yoke
mystic yoke
soft nebula
jovial swan
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I have an extremely good idea that I know everyone would love.

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{Merchants}

You now have the following selling options when selling to the Armorer, Leathersmith, Weaponsmith, Alchemist, Surgeon and Tailor:
-Fill All Gear
-Fill All Weapons
-Fill All Consumables
-Fill All Items

{The Collector}

You now have the following selling options when selling to the Collector:
-Fill All Treasures
-Fill All Crafting Materials
-Fill All Collectable Items

This option only applies to items in the player's inventory, not the Stash.

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Give people more options and quicker means to sell their crap so they can get right back into the game.

soft nebula
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also, i feel like they should add multipliers for attributes to merchants, for example, move speed on anything is always a +, or extra phys power, if its a knowledge or will piece, extra magic damage should give more too

mystic yoke
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The stats are a hot mess and I have a suggestion on how to change them to be equally meaningful for a variety of builds.

Strength: Affects physical damage. Nothing else.

Vigor: Affects HP and HP recovery.

Agility: Affects move speed and action speed.

Will: Affects magic damage. Nothing else.

Charisma (new): Affects spell recovery and spell/song duration. The idea being that charisma has nothing to do with being pretty or well spoken, and is really about your force of personality. A strong personality can stretch the limits of their inner power more than a weaker personality could.

Knowledge: Affects spell memory capacity and spellcasting speed.

REMOVED: Dexterity, Resourcefulness
Dexterity and Resourcefulness both feel really out of place and have attributes that are better handled by other primary stats or just separated into their own independtant sub-stat entirely. Both affect manual interaction speed, Dexterity gives some Action Speed and Item Equip Speed but the latter only affects putting on armor and is hardly a stat that anyone will care about for a build. If Item Equip Speed was removed as a sub-stat entirely I don't think it would make any difference in anyone's builds. Manual and Magical Interaction Speed are valuable but should not be something you can raise indirectly with stats, rather each class should have its own set interaction speeds - for example, maybe a Wizard has -10% manual and +50% magical interaction speed right out of the box as a base sub-statistic unaffected by primary stats. Or a Barbarian has +10% manual and -30% magical interaction speed. Then you can raise this with equipment that modifies that sub-stat directly instead.

queen vector
# jovial swan **{Merchants}** > You now have the following selling options when selling to the...

Great idea, and I would like that too. Would be nice if they could eventually implement some sort of "this item is needed for one of your quests" so you don't accidently sell a bangle you need or whatever.

To add to the "get back into the game quickly" mentality, because I feel like far too much time is spent not in game having to manage inventory, buy/sell equipment etc...

Make every piece of junk/common gear readily available from the merchants. We shouldn't be at the mercy of RNG for **common ** gear to be on a merchant to play how we want to play.

I cannot think of a good reason for having random availability of **common **gear from merchants. If anyone can think of good reasons as to why it is the way it is, I would genuinely like to understand. The best argument I can come up with is that it might make players try out new weapons and/or builds? But I think the counter to that is having everything available, that would drive players to experiment more than being "forced" into something.

I'm confident in saying that many people have run into this issue. You buy extras to put in your stash because you don't know when it will be on the vendor again, and now you are allocating a portion of your limited stash space to items that aren't valuable.

Me personally, if I am wanting to do normals and the item(s) I want aren't available at that time. I either swap to a different class, or play a different game. I do not think that this is a helpful mechanic for new players.

I mean this with full sincerity. This is an incredible game. I want the game, and the people at Ironmace to succeed. In order for DaD to grow and improve for many years to come, there must be more attention given to the new player experience.

muted nova
outer meteor
karmic quiver
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Honestly, that would be a bad change. Pvp shouldnt be that incentivized

agile ingot
karmic quiver
# agile ingot It honestly should. It's a pvp/pve game yet it doesn't happen because it's not i...

Well, the game is heavily inspired by Ultima and DnD both games arent so pvp oriented. People say that "Its a pvp/pve game" but in no way was the goal to have battle royale players rushing everyone always. Thats why the changes to AP happened. There are too many pvperverts running around spawn rushing for no reason other than to catch people unawares. Its a bad design. Every game that is heavily focused on pvp like that, dies. and is ridden with cheaters.

agile ingot
# karmic quiver Well, the game is heavily inspired by Ultima and DnD both games arent so pvp ori...

This system essentially compels people to engage in PvE. I've had several discussions with someone who shared the same concerns mentioned above, particularly about the potential for rushing. However, I firmly believe that this would not be a problem for the reasons stated earlier. If it really became an issue, a simple solution would be to make the multiplier insignificant until a minimum loot threshold or PvE score is achieved.

sick crane
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Stop attempting to add new maps and classes. Stop attempting to balance the game. Higher mmr games ESPing and aimbot is so damn prevalent. Fix the security of the damn game. Gaming at these levels is getting ridiculous.

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Get a damn anticheat for your game. It will die if this is not solved quickly.

wintry egret
nimble igloo
rancid pebble
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Prioritize steam before we keep losing people, havent been able to play consistently because of faulty coding on blacksmith for 4 months, playerbase could be 5 times as big with no advertising if it was on steam

dusky ingot
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suggestion: add something to the game that is not dogsh it or overpowered (impossible)

woven heart
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Ad emote like paper scissor rock so we can play with team mate for loot

vale pivot
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Stop with the low pvp ap rewards and make pvp 50 ap per player kill..risking -300 ap for a 15 ap kill is still not worth it

unborn yacht
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i just got killed by the stuck shield glitch and hat a shit ton of loot, the sheild pulled itself up all on its own and i need to right click again to take it down, it cause me to get slapped by a zombie

ember gate
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Make it so leaving the game multiple times, you get a temp queue banned for highroller (can only queue in normals) probably will solve all the naked rogues trying to take gear at high levels.

unborn yacht
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does anybody klnow what causes the sheild top rndomly pull itself up?

i had gold loot just now off somebodies body and lost it to that shit

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being stuck in shield block stuck in animation glitch and the goblin mage breaking all heals glitch really need to be fixed they are very old glitches idk how they are not fixed it yet seriously, glitches like these should be getting more attention

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another random thing i thinks hould be changed it, if you prepare to throw something but dont actually throw it in pre-lobby it will be taken away if you get put into the lobby while in that state, the number of lost torches is very high due to this i bet XD

quaint thunder
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This game is just another FPS now. Everyone spams ranged weapons and stacks movement speed so they can spend the whole fight running away. It's not fun chasing someone down and getting needled to death by ranged weapons. You should either commit to a fight or run away, you shouldn't be able to do both. My barbarian has 325 base move speed and it's fun murdering every ranger i see, but it's getting tired.

terse vale
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i think an indicator when a teammate has gone down a floor in the dungeon much like the exited icon at character window bottom left would be a nice addition to the UI

limber elbow
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New bug or new NEFF , Barbarian 9 knowledge open portal faster than Rogue 14 knowledge , stop neff a rogue for no reason DEVS

jovial swan
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So, I definitely think the following changes need to be implemented to prevent abuse:

{Movement Speed}

Maximum movement speed is now capped at 300.
Movement speed modifiers and scaling are adjusted accordingly.

{Shields}

The edges of shields are now "soft spots" that have less impact resistance than the center. This is to incentivize accurate aim with the shields.

{Rogue}

Vigor increased to 10.
Agility reduced to 20.
Double Jump no longer reduces movement speed due to Agility reduction.

glacial sphinx
limber elbow
glacial sphinx
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Well they wrote it in the patchnotes, that its will now

vale pivot
limber elbow
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Game update for the Neff , Bug stuck on the elevator not fix , grey quest items super hard to find , use luck potion to find grey items for quest like a joke

soft sierra
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just got killed by two barb running down fraciscas and teaming, ban teamers ALREADY!! @keen onyx

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ban teamers!

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reported more than 10 teamers, none banned

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ban teamers already!

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BAN TEAMERS!

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unfair inorganic gameplay for solos to run into duos and trios, without any punishment wahtsoever! BAN TEAMERS

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ban teamers!

late wadi
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Teaming is completely organic, not that I approve, but saying it’s inorganic is incorrect

soft sierra
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playing solos vs trios duos 4s 5s is inorganic, i play solos for solo v solo experience, fighting parties in solos is inorganic, ban teamers @keen onyx

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still waiting for 1+ week ago teamers i reported to get temp banned, what devs waiting for

jovial swan
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I'm gonna be honest. I think the change to base stats on gear was a terrible idea.

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Like, so awful that it created more problems than ever.

late wadi
soft sierra
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playing solo v party is inorganic in a SOLO matchmaking, ban teamers!

devout hawk
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This guy does know that teaming in game is allowed but pre teaming is not right?

soft sierra
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it is unfair and inorganic to fight parties ingame as a solo in SOLO MATCHMAKING

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if i wanted to fight parties i'd go duo or trio, but i want a solo experience, which is the organic thing to have in SOLO MATCHMAKING. Teaming in solo matchmaking is not organic, as it literally goes AGAINST the whole thing itself, because you know... its "SOLO" matchmaking. I am solo v 2 or 3 BUT in other lobbies as trios, some people are getting 3v6, come tell me that is indeed the way game should be played. bullshit

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@keen onyx ban teamers already! 1+ week reports unpunished for teaming up in solo games, breaking organic and natural gameplay of the "SOLO Q" experience

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Fighting teamers in solo Q is unfair and inorganic, therefor unhealthy for the playerbase. They must ban teamers because otherwise game will be unhealthy and dumb. I got ran down by two barbs with franciscas, all i did whole game from start to end was run with bare hands at 109% speed, didnt even engage, just ran till i died. That was unfair and ridiculous, unfair gameplay should be removed as it oly makes the game shittier

ban teamers already @keen onyx

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jsut ban teamers, make the game a healthy place for gamers to play

vale pivot
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^ mans spitting facts

hallow flare
mental wraith
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here's a suggestion: STOP FORCING US TO PLAY RUINS AND GOBLIN CAVES, THE TWO WORST MAPS

granite plinth
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To be fair though I see nothing wrong with teaming. It's when it goes into a unhealthy direction that it becomes a problem. Monopolizing the entire map for loot is an example. But more often then not I only team so I can finish my quests. After that I go on a killing spree

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Also Pokémon is going ham atm (by that I mean Pokémon mechanics) can we get a mechanic where you get a cage and you can catch monsters to be your minion for one dungeon run? Make the success tame rate be 5 percent lol

runic night
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That sounds more like a Druid ability to communicate to wolves and get one wolf teammate.😂

next wharf
soft sierra
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Ban the teamers already!! @keen onyx still missing my "temporary ban alerts" from 1+ week of reports. Players making inorganic gameplay and getting unpunished!

What do we need to wait for? For streamers to cry over teaming just like they did with invis potions?? START LISTENING TO YOUR PLAYERS, dont wait for streamers to tell you what is obvious. Ban teamers!

next wharf
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Thats what many of this games failings boil down to, they listen too much to the streamers, many of which got to their position in a very sketchy way to begin with.

they will argue for anything that benefits them even if its terrible for the game itself. Cocaine logic

soft sierra
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Repoze team got shit on head by invis potion they took 0 minutes to change that. Teamers still not banned tho!! All tho they literally break ORGANIC GAMEPLAY SYSTEM. They break organic SOLO experience, they break DUOS experience. Do you really need to see repoze or other streamer getting 3v9 in order to do anything?

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Ban teamers already!

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Every single day from a week+ i have been killed at least ONCE A DAY BY TEAMERS, totally breaking the organic and INTENTIONAL!! "SOLO" experience.

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If i wanted to fight parties organically, i'd join the DUO and SOLO Qs, but i dont want that, i want Solo v Solo experience and this players are BREAKING It infront of your faces and they getting 0 punishment. BAN TEAMERS!! @keen onyx

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Teaming for PvE sucks but doesnt break Solo v Solo experience plus It is not unfair for others, It just sucks.

NOW, when a team of 2, 3 even 4 individuals or teams, clean the whole lobby by just superior numbers, breaking ORGANIC and INTENTIONAL Queue system (reminder, "SOLO Q, DUO Q, TRIOS Q"), they wont lose, they Will always win, destroying those players that respect your rules and play your game organically, taking their loot and ruining their day; that, Ironmace, is UNFAIR and makes your game unhealthy, not a safe place for players to play at but a jungle of teamers rampaging onto other teams or solos and getting no punishment by doing so.

You just DONT CARE!

@keen onyx ban teamers already! They break organic playstyle, make Game unfair and tidious, makes you look really bad.

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Stop 🛑 players that break your rules and organic playstyle system INTENTIONALLY!!!

Do we really need to see Big streamers team of 3 get absolut shit on by 9 men that allied to kill them for you to start doing anything? @keen onyx BAN TEAMERS!!!

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Dont wait for streamers to tell you, LISTEN TO YOUR OWN COMUNITY. Ban teamers!!!!!

glacial sphinx
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stop spamming peoples mentions, its ridiculous

pallid vector
soft sierra
# glacial sphinx stop spamming peoples mentions, its ridiculous

Indeed It is, but i can't wait no more. At first you think, they know what is going on, they just need time for a ban wave to come in. Short after you start thinking they dont know what is actually happening, and short after you start thinking they dont care.

I do care about this Game, i do like It and therefor im trying to change things, and this IS the only way ive come Up with.

BAN TEAMERS!

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I am tryna make a movement here, instead of waiting for a streamer team to get 3v9

wise walrus
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@soft sierra As much as it is rule breaking. I am going to suggest that we as a community stop welcoming it. And change the psychology of the player base. The only experience that I have for this is playing hardcore survival games that are similar. Which all in the start of their existence had a HEAVY friendly population until the player base stopped being so 100% trusting. (Dayz, Rust, Tarkov. ) Are good examples to see early footage of folks teaming up no matter what 80% of the time.

copper condor
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It shouldn't cost a spell or skill if you use it in the lobby

devout hawk
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It’s funny because it is not against the rules to to team with other players organically through voip what is against the rules is preteaming

soft sierra
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Everytime i play solo and encounter friendly behaviour, i tell them im friendly and just kill them when i have the opportunity. This way i am encouraging ppl to stop playing friendly BUT this problem is not ours to be fixed, this is something devs MUST CHANGE, so here i am, speaking out facts everyday till i am heared same way the streamers are listened

BAN TEAMERS! @keen onyx

pearl turret
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Let us keep lockpicks if we successfully open chests please.

soft sierra
hallow flare
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Can this discord please ban all the rage spammers? Not just @soft sierra but everyone who is complaining about stuff explicitly stated as intentional, please and thank you 🙏

soft sierra
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I am being formal and speaking my mind off, not being agro to none. Just tryna make a change for good!

Ban teamers!!!

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Not spamming too, every mensage is diferent

hallow flare
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Ya, but it isn’t going to happen, no matter how much you beg. Verbiage changing doesn’t mean you aren’t just repeating the same thing over and over, being a general nuisance. I think most people who agree with you would say so too

austere lance
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Hey I'm not sure if this is the right channel for this, but I would really wish to see the quests with dungeon escapes, have any dungeon type, having them so far away in the quest line and then forcing to do normals when they are playing high roller exclusively

orchid cypress
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Game should implement a system for more AP based on skill/MMR/and Total value of enemy player. AP derived from kit worn, rank, and mmr. PVP kills should be giving WAY MORE AP.

hallow flare
soft sierra
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Ban teamers already!! Breaking healthy play Style and getting unpunished, DEVS MUST ACT NOW!!

orchid cypress
hallow flare
orchid cypress
hallow flare
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I mean, you could go in naked then equip all your gear the moment you spawn in if you are really worried about people inspecting you, right? But that is kinda Sus within itself

mystic yoke
grizzled halo
dusky raven
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Just got killed by a full gold team when the highest person on my team was ranked green 3. The highest on the gold team was blue. Definitely need to do something about gear diff when people self trade to low level accounts. It feels really balanced when somone one shots you and doesnt even loot your body because blues and purples are bad for them.

rugged eagle
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it's not even self trade to low level accounts they could just be high rank in a diff mode and get all the gear from that and then just queue a different lobby size

drowsy grotto
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Solos in unplayable in it's current predicament, only teamers and barbs. Literally the only types of players. They really don't know what the fuck they're doing anymore.

calm dove
drowsy grotto
calm dove
drowsy grotto
calm dove
drowsy grotto
calm dove
west bolt
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MAKE SPIDER SILK DROPS HIGHER

drowsy grotto
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It'd let them balance one part of the game without destroying the other.

calm dove
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The other side of the coin balancing a game for solo game play and trio is rough.

drowsy grotto
mystic yoke
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If solos were going into trio matches... wouldn't they necessarily get teamed on and make the issue much much worse for solo players???

drowsy grotto
calm dove
drowsy grotto
calm dove
drowsy grotto
calm dove
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What special is the low ammount of ap given for pvp kills in this game. Jesus I think opening a red portal still gives you more ap.

drowsy grotto
calm dove
drowsy grotto
calm dove
drowsy grotto
calm dove
drowsy grotto
calm dove
drowsy grotto
calm dove
drowsy grotto
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Then they should fix the reporting system instead of forcing players to play in specific servers

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Also whilst some players use the server choosing thing to get empty lobbies, people in others countries use it to actually find players as their lobbies are empty.

calm dove
drowsy grotto
deft tree
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Legendary / unique cloaks should roll their highest inherent stat (3 str/dex/vig/agi and 5 kno/res/will). Feels really bad to find a legendary cloak which has 1 str on it

calm dove
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I think they need to make AP build up over time on players. This would prevent some spawn rushing which I know used to be an issue.

jovial swan
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{Achilles Strike}

For the next 12 seconds, any physical attack that hits the opponent's legs will reduce their movement speed by -50% for 1.5 seconds.

{Changes from Current}

Buff: Can now be used multiple times in succession while active.
Buff: Move speed reduction increased from 30% > 50%.
Nerf: Now has a duration of 12 seconds, instead of indefinite.
Nerf: Duration of debuff reduced from 2.5 seconds > 1.5 seconds.
Nerf: Attacks now require that you hit the opponent in their legs.
Nerf: Only applies to physical attacks, removing the ability to use throwables like Lanterns and Francisca Axes.
Nerf: No longer does physical damage per step.

{Reason}

Adds actual skill to using the "skill", while removing certain aspects of the ability that are too abusable (i.e. throwables being used for it).

drowsy grotto
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Amen

crude ridge
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divide the cleric class into well cleric and paladin. Keep clerics from using plate armor and combat spells while giving them stronger healing/buffing spells. Paladins would be able to use plate armor while only having access to basic healing/buffing spells and combat spells with less base memory capacity

median bronze
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More character slots - 2x more just to test things around would be nice

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(I'm weird and play all classes except Rogue)

hushed horizon
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Would be cool to have characters look more muscled scaling with their strength and vigor, the barbs have high stats in both but kinda soft looking, maybe a bump map or whatever it's called that shows more muscle definition as the stats get higher, kenshi has something like that.

jovial swan
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So I just got the idea that Sprint needed to be balanced. One of two, actually.

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{Sprint Nerf Ver. A}

Upon activation, your movement speed is increased by a flat +50 for 6 seconds. Afterward, become exhausted and receive a -15% Physical Power penalty for 5 seconds.

{Sprint Nerf Ver. B}

Upon activation, your movement speed is increased by a flat +50 for 6 seconds. During this time, your action speed when attacking is reduced by -20%.

{Reason}

Sprint is currently the only speed-based Skill in the game without a drawback for its incredible power. Rage reduces a Barbarian's physical defense, Shadow Runner requires the use of a perk and skill slot combined, and Phantomize completely removes Warlock's ability to attack at all and they receive 50% more damage from magic.

In that vein, Fighter needs something that should balance them out, and one of two things can happen without breaking the ability: either it reduces the physical power bonus of Fighter or it reduces the attack speed of the Fighter, either of which covers whichever scenario is more unbalanced (fleeing or using it in combat).

The nerfs are unique, too, so that we don't have a repeat of another ability that increases move speed having a similar penalty.

jovial swan
plain cosmos
real trellis
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Crystal sword sucks - you know it, I know it, Ironmace HAS to know it just based on usage numbers. Here's my thoughts on why, and what could be done about it.

orchid zodiac
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daily reminder to fix spider hitboxes

sonic tundra
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daily reminder that a viking can roar and land 3 francisca's and you're done.

meager jasper
real trellis
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I hate to support Vulgun in any form but I don't think it's good class design to have an ability that's so good that you're basically throwing if you don't slot it.

meager jasper
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Sprint isn't that good. The alternatives are not competitive.

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Imagine if victory strike did as much damage as boc, roughly. It would instantly be considered. And they wouldn't compromise second wind first, it would be sprint. That's extreme and not balanced, but the reality is that fighter only has two competitive abilities and that's the real balance issue with the class. Fighters themselves are not overpowered or broken in any real way.

real trellis
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Second wind would absolutely be tossed before sprint if victory strike dealt more damage because it can be used to heal yourself when killing mobs too. If there's a cleric on your team you don't really even need second wind at all.

meager jasper
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Victory strike would be for damage, not healing in this context. The healing of victory strike would have little impact in pvp compared to second wind, which is an enormous and very good heal.

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I would possibly agree it would be a choice if you had access to a cleric, but in fairness I am a duo and solo player and neither of us are clerics, so again, that's good. There's multiple builds.

real trellis
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If victory strike dealth significantly more damage you'd kill your enemy faster making it less likely that second wind is going to save you in that fight. And without sprint you're never catching a ranger if they decide to dip lol

meager jasper
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It would still not be something I would choose in solo. Sprint is rarely useful as an escape tool because people are just generally faster than you anyway, which makes it a positioning tool. Would I rather have 40% more hp and more tankiness and then run in with victory strike on, or would I rather only have the strike? It's not a difficult math choice in solo.

You don't catch rangers. That's not something fighters do. You either shoot them with a crossbow or they get away. At least in a complete vacuum solo context of a fighter vs a ranger.

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Anyway this is all very hypothetical, and not the original point. Sprint and Second Wind being good are not problems at all unless you think fighter itself as a whole is overpowered, and it isn't.

The way I see it, if they have no variety, that is not a sign that they are too strong. That's a sign the other abilities are too weak, because again, they're not actually that powerful when you measure what the class is capable of with these insta-choose abilities. I think barbs for instance are actually in a bit of a better place at the moment.

real trellis
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a bit?

meager jasper
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I'm being generous=D

real trellis
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A gray geared barb almost killed my plate fighter buddy in HR and would've actually managed it had I not boc'd him in the dome

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Barb is stupid rn

ebon jewel
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need steam

outer niche
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Dark and darker need to make an announcement trailer and get twitch drops if it sees a steam release, only way it could get the player count to 30k average again

still matrix
still matrix
outer niche
undone spruce
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Gobbo caves layers when?

granite plinth
swift sage
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Put a damn limit on the francisca, barbarian arent ranged class

hardy niche
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reduce amount of players in solo, so sick of spawning in the center of 4 fucking other players and having to fight literally everyone

next wharf
crude ridge
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can hit boxes be put under a bit more scrutiny? Watched my mace phase through a guy's head and it didn't count as a hit

true ginkgo
# swift sage Put a damn limit on the francisca, barbarian arent ranged class

barbs have to spend 24 gold a pop on frans and/or 1 iron ing for a stack both of which are limited in supply (capped at 2 each or something like that) and take a decent amount of skill to hit with i believe the current situation with frans is reasonable. (im saying this as a cleric main who has to sacrifice spells in order to get any type of ranged attacks off) i think frans should just be available to more classes to use

haughty harbor
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fix this hotdogwater patch before you release on steam and we have a concurrent playerbase that quintuples+ what we have rn. you got a golden opprotunnity here don't fuck it up ironmace. i know 12 buddies personally that said " i'll buy it when it comes out on steam" send it on steam release with the best quyality possible and you wil lsee numbers above 100k again. you won't have palworld success but you guys have something special here. do right by the game and your community. you got this

lone mason
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a free weekend when you are back on Steam would be wonderful.

glacial sphinx
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would bring a lot of players yeah

strong crag
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dunno if it is planned or spoken about but what if they added something like low roller? basically it is like high roller BUT the complete opposite it's for total noobs since players that are good at the game keep playing normal instead of highroller you cannot bring ANY items in, and wanderer 3+ cannot join low roller lobbies.

random sapphire
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Low roller would Lowkey be cool and remove the beer lock on normal matches I hate having to go to high roller when I want to use my gear since mobs infinitely stronger and idk the map layouts

daring linden
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I need some opinions on this idea for a ranger rework.

What if they had a skill called trappers tools that worked similarly to spell memory where they can memorise 3 different traps and have a pool of resources they can use to make them in raid.

The materials can be based off the resourcefulness stat and the various types of traps could be a tripwire to slow people down, a bell that makes a loud noise when tripped or a crossbow that shoots when triggered.

These could take a very long time to set up and have varying costs depending on how impactful they are and maybe some need specific materials like a crossbow for the crossbow trap

steep oak
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caves needs to be removed until the performance and portal issue is solved, nobody wants to play caves with all the micro-stutters getting you killed and having portals spawn above/below you with no quick way to get to them. every game on caves i lose half my health to a mob because the game decides to stutter when fighting them and they get 2 free hits on me while its frozen

rare snow
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an update to voice chat option, a way to choose what mic you are using, i cant use in game voice chat cause it uses my computers default mic which is a program that controls my mic and not my mic directly. cant talk to friends in game unless its through discord right now cause they cant hear me in the in game voice chat.

an increase to the gold coin purse bag, or a way to buy a bigger bag if we get more reputation, cause right now gold coin purse bags eat up a lot of stash space.
---50 coins a bag doesnt seem bad at first but after a while it really does add up, 100 or 200 coins per bag would help a lot in the quality of life

a lower cost to stash space at the start, 3,000 is a huge investment for just the first stash tab upgrade, then 10,000 for the second one.
---1,000 for the first and maybe 5,000 for the second would be a lot better, not looking forward to having a stash space full of nothing but coin bags

a choice to toggle between unveil the map as i enter new rooms and the normal way we have now, and be blind in knowing where to go so learning the map can be more impactful (fog of war mode being optional in settings)
a way to open map in full screen instead of just the corner alone

pallid vector
steep oak
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yeah every so often i queue for caves thinking it cant be as bad as i remember
and yeah its as bad as i remember

next wharf
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game is quite literally rotting before my eyes lmfao. The fact they didn't even mention the barb situation, the teaming, or the tired ass single-layout ruins/GC situation at all in the hotfixes just shows they aren't listening.

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We got Senior Wardens out here calling people slurs over VOIP and still holding their position

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And I dare somebody to try and warn me for talking about it, lmaoo

livid mason
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Nerf the speed on rage, slight nerf on barbarian STR. Give a perk to barbarian that gives them 15% projectile reduction to hard counter rangers and give tunics projectile reduction.
Barbarian either counters everyone or no one. Barbarians are able to shutdown any class with speed alone. Nerfing the speed and making barbarian be resistant to both projectiles and magic would make this class be appealing to use and be still viable after the nerf I reffered to. While also fighting against the range meta we might have in the future.

outer lotus
next wharf
pallid vector
small furnace
small furnace
sonic tundra
unborn yacht
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warlocks and barbarians are an issue right now

unborn yacht
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im surprised the game does not tell you when you do not have enough for a trade fee when attempting to sell, it tells the wrong person it and it should inform the seller not the buyer and it should do it upon entering the trade not when somebody is trying to buy from you, the way it tries to tell you right now wastes time

tough willow
novel wave
tough willow
novel wave
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I totally agree you on that. AH will be a great addition to this since its a well based system for a long time(Mostly MMORPG style). I also don't like to go Trader Hall and see ton of items filling 20 lines of text

hard willow
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Just one suggestion ... what if items that we loot from monsters/crates/chests (or crafted items) would have our item on it? It would be interesting to kill somebody to find out that he is using my old dagger from several games back, or taking trophies from players just to fill up stash with them (no offence, but I think some people would like to keep items from some famous streamer just for display, etc)? It could be only for items that we equip, they could have two tags ... like owner + previous owner, where owner would be last person who equiped this, previous would be one more back.

I think it would be interesting when we are sometimes running into same players. It would make pvp more interesting i think

faint bridge
regal trench
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please for gods sake put more portals in team gc

rare snow
# next wharf Yeah, no, the lawsuit isn't even over read past the reddit headlines before talk...

Yesterday, Nexon's preliminary injunction against Iron Mace for trade secret and copyright infringement was dismissed.

The court ruled that “Iron Mace’s game cannot be viewed as infringing on Nexon’s copyright or trade secrets,” thus rejecting the claims and suspicions that Dark & Darker was developed by using Nexon’s trade secrets and infringing on its copyrights. It wasn't. In addition, the court ruled that Dark & Darker's service should not be suspended based on Nexon's claims and evidence alone.

The court's decision regarding unfair competition is disappointing in that it came from a situation where Nexon did not even submit the P3 game itself as official evidence.
However, this is due to the limitations of evidence examination in the provisional injunction procedure, and according to the provisional injunction decision, one of the reasons why the court dismissed Nexon's application for a provisional injunction was the need for a faithful investigation of evidence and hearing in the main lawsuit.

If sufficient and thorough evidence is investigated in the main lawsuit, the truth about the unfairness of Nexon's claims and the innocence of Iron Mace will be revealed.

Despite many difficulties, we were able to persevere thanks to the support and support of players around the world.
We will continue to invest and do our best to develop Dark & Darker into a solid game that can be serviced for more than 10 years.

I am always grateful to you all.

next wharf
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Another genius, thank you, I too know about google translate.

rare snow
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you are very welcome

next wharf
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Notice the words "preliminary injunction" and "main lawsuit".

They have it in the bag, and they have the money to be fine if they lose too, but the idea that its all just over now and we're gonna be back on steam and the game is just gonna be fine without serious changes is just incredibly stupid.

next wharf
rare snow
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notice good news is good news, to win the war you must win many battles

and as for steam, i feel that is still a ways away, and same with diablo 4, dark and darker will take a long time to grow and change, its still a great investment compared to diablo 4 though, cant wait for dark and darker 2 years from now

next wharf
hushed horizon
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Pollaxe weapon for fighters, maybe three less damage than the halberd but with armour pen, I just really want new polearms, and whoever does the animations is very good so I'm sure it would be a fun weapon.

small furnace
still matrix
outer lotus
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Ruins should be 6x6 and hold 36 players with 18 crypts portals at the end, and crypts should only have 9 hell portals. Right now there arent enough players to keep crypts and hell fun

old bear
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If we're gonna start adding stat requirements to use items why don't we just stay even more true the DND gameplay and add stat requirements to every weapon and item, with the class selection affecting the weapon proficiency. Huge rework of the game but more true to the idea of DND the devs talked about

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Could also be an interesting way to work with the race skins as well

hardy niche
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REDUCE AMOUNT OF PLAYERS IN SOLOS. 15 PEOPLE IS TOO MANY OBVIOUSLY.

languid spade
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REMOVE INSPECT. worst mechanic in the game. Encourages pre teaming and serves no real purpose.

spice sandal
next wharf
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I remember when they rolled back Hotfix #15 in under 12 hours because Mendo and Lordcollector and others DM'ed and petitioned the devs and called it BoRiNg to have less impactful gear. (before there was a white gear cap in norms).

undone spruce
left moon
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First clip here is a feels bad moment because the barbarian just fought a ranger and was still able to tank 3 spells including a full magic missle. The very next clip I just killed a fighter but now am engaged by a warlock. I die in 1 hit and also my MM doesn’t go off because serverlag(I did not move do not say that I moved)this moment feels bad because im the one getting third partied and I die to one hit. In the same scenario wizard dies in 1 hit barb gets to tank 3 and still win the fight. Goblin caves is just a terrible map if you are a wizard. In this clip I have to skip the module because im out of zone. I have to skip the second because im already late compared to other players who have already cleared half their first module. So I skip to the third. And wow third module is a spider room that is the worst room they have added to the game yet. So of course I have to skip that module. Then I walk into a barbarian which is super fair. The last clip is just lightorb not working as intended but you still should run it because it works sometimes

bright stump
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PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND EVERYTHING THAT IS HOLY FIX ALL KNOWN INPUT BUGS

soft nebula
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please change barb magic resist from 100->50. such a damn struggle and its not fun

steep oak
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get on barb for one game when its gobby caves and instantly kill 3 people with a white zweihander and 2 pieces of vendor gear along with frannies from the woodcutter

soft shale
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To counteract all of the teaming for AP farming but not making a PvP kill worth so much that lobbies go from teaming and flip to spawn rushing and extract camping. Make kills have a multiplier of say 0.1x. So a kill would earn you an extra 10% at the end for any AP you earn. Only earn 100 AP and only get 1 kill then you only get an extra 10 AP, but if you get 5 kills and make 1000 AP then you get an extra 500 AP. You would still have to prioritize getting loot but kills would make that loot worth more or at the very least make sub par loot not the end of the world.
Downsides would be if the whole team does not get the multiplier then there could be arguments in teams about getting the last hit, or support roles having to get some damage in in a similar way there was an issue with boss kills. Also there would be some people that would go back to spawn rushing and extract camping but likely not as many as would if kills were worth a flat but high AP value.
Treasure would still be important, but kills would actually matter.

opal orbit
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When you get alchemist leveled up to buy green health pots, the single pots are 25g ea but a stack is 123g for 3 of them.....Nice math

vale leaf
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We really should have loadouts for solo, duo, and trio (I bet this has been suggested a lot already :D ) For passives/spells/songs

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Nothing wrong with teaming if it's done randomly :) IMO

fiery portal
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Let bard equip crystal sword please , we need some magic dmg

small ibex
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can we please change barb into a tank instead of a damage dealer.

glacial sphinx
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I think the windup and recovery animation time for throwing weapons needs to be slightly longer

dense sentinel
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rogue needs parry mechanics on dagger secondary, dual dagger build options that feel good to use, access to survival bow and buckler for better engagement options, and hide and stealth need to be combined into 1. needs some balancing but these changes would be much appreciated.

small ibex
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The solo meta for this game is actually terrible and boring. If you run into a kitted barb then you're just going to die unless he misses 3 or 4 swings and even then if he's running berserker, which should be a core perk for every barb, he can instantly turn into a glass cannon after taking 1 or 2 hits and destroy you.

queen niche
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nerf barbarian

swift sage
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i say it again, fix the amount of francisca barbarian can wear. They ARENT ranged classes

jovial swan
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I think I've got an idea on how Barbarian can be reworked now.

next wharf
jovial swan
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{Barbarian - Attributes}

Buff: Dexterity is increased to 15
Buff: Resourcefulness is increased to 15
Nerf: Strength is reduced to 20
Nerf: Will is reduced to 10

{Barbarian - Weapons}

Buff: Barbarian now has access to the Halberd natively.
Buff: Barbarian now has access to the Round Shield natively.

{Barbarian - Perks}
{Axe Specialization}

When using a non-projectile axe, gain +3 Weapon Damage.

{Berserker}

Your physical power increases gradually as you take more damage, up to a maximum of 15% additional physical power.

{Carnage}

Each successful attack increases your next attack's action speed by 5%. This effect stacks up to 3 times and lasts 3 seconds.

{Crush}

Increases your weapon's impact power by 1 and grant all two-handed weapons the ability to destroy doors and unreinforced containers. Any weapon with an impact power of 5 or more continue their swing after destroying an object.

{Executioner}

Headshots with axe weapons or the Bardiche ignore 15% of your opponent's armor rating.

{Potion Chugger}

Increases the action speed of drinking, as well as the effectiveness of drinks, by +20%.
Reduce the duration of the drink's effects by -20%.

{Savage}

Each armor piece absent from your body grants 3% physical power, up to a maximum of 15% additional physical power. This does not include rings and necklaces.

{Two-Hander}

Gain access to all two-handed weapons, excluding ranged weapons. When wielding a two-handed weapon, your Dexterity is increased by 5.

{Barbarian - New Perks}
{Brutality}

Gain a 100% physical power bonus and 20% action speed bonus when attacking with your bare fists.

{Predator}

Gain the ability to use the Longbow, but lose the ability to use thrown items, including the Lantern. Additionally, the effects of other Perks and Skills do not apply to arrows.

(1/2)

steel sable
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Would be nice to be able to create customizable loadout so it's faster to switch perk/skill/spells

nimble igloo
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Victory strike andrenaline rush with slayer build go max dps

steel sable
jovial swan
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{Barbarian - Skills}
{Achilles Strike}

For 8 seconds, each physical attack that hits your opponent's legs deals 20% additional damage and applies a debuff that reduces their movement speed by 30% for 1.5 seconds.

{Rage}

For 6 seconds, your Strength and Vigor are increased by 15. However, your physical damage reduction bonus is reduced by -20%.

{Reckless Attack}

Charge an attack for 1.5 seconds, before quickly dashing forward at breakneck speed to deliver an almighty attack that ignores 75% of your opponent's armor rating. Afterward, your armor rating is reduced by -55 for 5 seconds.

Can only occur when using a main-handed physical weapon.

{Savage Roar}

Knocks back all enemies within 7.5 meters and decreases their physical power bonus by -25% for 6 seconds.

{War Sacrifice}

While active, gain the ability to ignore debuffs and increase your movement speed by 15% for 8 seconds, but sacrifice 15% of your maximum health over the same duration.

{Barbarian - New Skills}
{Eruption}

Slam the ground before you, causing a violent eruption of fissures around your person that linger for 10 seconds. Opponents who stand within this area are dealt 3 physical damage for each step they take in it.

Cooldown: 24 seconds

{Weapon Throw}

While active, charge and throw your currently available weapon forward, dealing 100% of its maximum damage to your target. Throw both weapons if you are currently wielding one in each hand.

Cooldown: 18 seconds

(2/2)

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{Reasoning}

My version of the Barbarian you see above addresses the core issues with the character (namely being too strong while also having incredibly useful skills to further exacerbate their power), as well as reworking some of the Perks and Skills to be more unique and interesting to each other (notably seen by the changes in Carnage, Executioner and Rage).

This version has a more diverse set of Perks and more interesting utility in their Skills (such as Achilles Strike having its rework as it is), and aims to make Barbarian a figure that has enough tools to make it by while not being an overwhelming menace to the game. The particular tools that were a menace and an overwhelming part of Barbarian's metagame (Rage and Achilles Strike) have been toned down while introducing better concepts for them and already-existing Skills (such as War Sacrifice now giving Rage's speed boost).

Some ideas will be controversial, including the perk "Predator", but I feel like I've made sure all of these ideas are balanced out in meaningful ways (such as Predator removing the ability to throw Francisca Axes, Explosive Bottles, Lanterns and Oil Lanterns at the expense of the ability to use a Bow; a trade-off, in a way).

thin prawn
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nerf barbarian

next wharf
frigid current
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people in my pathfinder lobbies do not take real gear into solo servers because of the rampant teaming issue. considering the majority of Solo players perceive it as an issue, it should be viewed as an issue. base-gear fighters going into lobbies with a 'lfg' mentality are progressing beyond pathfinder. is this the intention? why am i, as a solo player, going to bother building a nice kit if I encounter teams of 2-3 in almost every solo server? I'm not only not taking gear into solo lobbies because of teaming, I'm uninstalling this until something's been done about it. fucking tell your friends, im out.

unborn yacht
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the warlocks ability to nullify heals is OP

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alos i just dealt with pre-teamer warlocks in norms

elfin vale
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that guy really spent all that time typing up an entire class rework complete with emboldened words and categorized spacing just for it to never be seen

steel sable
drowsy grotto
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Buff felling axe damage 🙂

alpine zealot
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Can we please make sure every other class has better perks, skills, and synergy than the fighter. Please. It's not limited enough in HR PvP

modern quiver
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Introduce wizard wands into the game that have unique effects based off the magic type they are. Example arcane wand that could apply different status or effect on arcane spells. Fire wand that applies effects to your fire spells. This could be such a good way to add versitility to the class! 🙂

graceful beacon
tiny wigeon
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The funniest thing to me is that, the devs don’t read this channel, ppl seem to think they do.
But the purpose of this channel is to discuss the suggestions that are made on their website , not on this channel

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So , he is really reeeeeaaaallly wasting his time

elfin vale
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and im happy they dont tbh, if theyre doing anything DaD i want it to be development

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not reading through this filth

tiny wigeon
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Agree

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I think the thing they should focus the most is just connection issues. Lag and rubberbanding will be the end of this game , especially if it launches on steam.
The game has had rubber bands since day one , it’s not really acceptable anymore, even if it’s an early access game, you really should prio these fixes before anything else imo

steel sable
brazen token
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I'd like it if they could go through each map and remove the buggy terrain you can get stuck on and just be unable to move. As much as I love losing kits to being stuck under a lantern or glued to a rock.

crude kite
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remove crossbow for melee champions

graceful beacon
crude kite
lapis tangle
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'tune barbarian' you can just say nerf

ripe turtle
steel sable
unborn yacht
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isn't magical healing on cleric weapons in general useless?

hallow flare
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They should just make spellbook left handed imo, that’d be nice

graceful beacon
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ranger doesn't need nerf rn lmao.

terse heart
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what if achilles strike was on a short timer instead. that might be too much of a nerf tho

pine sigil
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Unique Lantern that reveals invisible/sees in smoke also a unique item for rogue to be able to see in the dark stealthed and see through their own smoke (maybe a perk for the seeing through smoke pots)

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Orc darkvision even would be nice

graceful beacon
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alright bro

languid goblet
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Fix Barb please. Also remove naked max speed meta

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Default ranger is having a hard time, but geared is broken

languid goblet
grand peak
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How about a purchasable storage tab that can be used to swap between your characters?

hoary notch
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🗣️supportgibbon I got an idea to incentivize PvP for HR. What if you got a chunk of the person's AP entrance fee when you kill them? About 50-80% of it or something? I think that'd be a pretty good deal 🤝 🗣️

graceful frost
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why

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rangers already dead chill out

mossy burrow
wintry egret
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3 games in a row where some robotic moving Chihao23339 team just ran us down

graceful frost
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Nope never

indigo grail
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Nerf barb, easily the most broken characters in this game, they can build up agi vigor and strength so easily to make them inexcapable 2 tappers for more then half the builds you choose to do, if i have an agi build and a barb that can 2 tap me still manages to catch up, it feels like aids

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make it so the smoke pot doesnt slow you down being jumped ina giant cloud of smoke where i cant move freely is also aids

steel sable
elfin ivy
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Things I wish Dark and Darker would fix

•Fighter's Francisco Axe can only be used by Weapon Mastery.
・Slow down fighter's sprint (-10%)
・Slightly slow down the barbarian's movement speed (Agility
13→12)
•Weakened Barbarian's Rage (strength and vitality increased by +15 → increased by 10, movement speed changed from 15% → 10%, damage reduction decreased by -15% for 6 seconds)
・Lower the power of Francisco Ax (-10% power)
・You cannot attack for 2 seconds after Rogue's Hide is removed.
•Weakened bows and crossbows (power -20%)
•Weakening of ranger traps (if caught in a trap, movement speed will be reduced by 10-20%. +10-20 damage will be dealt.)
・Added new armor for wizards + added new perks
•Added new Cleric spells
・Cleric can equip Crystal Ball
•Added lantern to Bird's initial equipment
・Added new bard skills
•Weakened Warlock's Blow of Corruption (power -7~8%)
・Warlock's initial memory increased from 9 to 14

・Set the trading system to automatic trading.
・Make the content of the quest a little easier.
・If you clear the quest, you will be able to obtain limited skins and limited emotes.

  • Make it possible to buy lanterns cheaply.
    ・Trap release kit abolished
    ・In order to spread awareness about Dark and Darker, create an official PV and upload it to Youtube.
    ・Release the product version on Steam.
spring spoke
sick crane
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Game needs a better anticheat. Higher rank lobbies have too much fucking ESP and aimbot. Don't bother trying to balance the classes or add new content. Fix the damn security of this game. It will die if you do not do this.

amber vigil
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The game needs better anti cheat it is unplayable in trios for me and my friends currently

sick crane
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Too many damn scripters too getting ridiculous.

small ibex
wintry egret
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out of 11 games we played only 2 of them didnt have cheaters with the most robotic movements

earnest swift
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let me do a reposte with quarterstaff like longsword plz

vague patio
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My main rogue's invis ability is useless with the amount of ranger cheaters out there please do something about it

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Esp in the SEA server please enable stricter ping lock

mossy burrow
steel sable
woven junco
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Hey guys i dont know but this should be asked if we have solo duo and trio high roller do we get 3x the reward for each character or how will this play out say we have a class solo duo trio highroller at wonderer do we get 3 coin bags CAN we Get awnsers to this

dusty wedge
woven junco
dusty wedge
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It's still worth grinding on your characters imo even if the reward is capped at 1x each

woven junco
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@keen onyx Awnser my guy

unborn yacht
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seriously XD me and so many other people just died in ruins becxuase there wasn;t enugh exits, there needs to be twice as many exits OR a way down to another floor with more statics like ruins has! i know im correct when i state this please listen devs, eeither this or there needs to be vastly improved access between the vertical levels on the caves, i think ruins has it perfectly balance but goblin caves it feels twice as hard to find them due to all the levels

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the more time that passes the more often i find lobbies with half warlocks

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devs should give the holy paladin his longsword lol

tacit scarab
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Is True Phys better than additional phys if you're playing ranger? (headshot wise)

graceful beacon
wheat mirage
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Suggestion. Allow players to drag and drop spells in the "Spell/Music Memory Priority" section to determine their order instead of having to re-assign them to each wheel

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Oh, and Loadouts please

void panther
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make a proposed perk to allow wizards to use all spells at double the cost check it out please 🙏

frigid berry
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Would love to see goblin caves reworked to have hell portals, to many times have I died due to not having blue/red. Please add red portals to goblin caves. I wait a full 30 minute cycle/disband my team to avoid that map.

mystic yoke
steel sable
frigid berry
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@mystic yoke its not map knowledge thats the problem bro, when it duos or trios you are bound to lose your kit, thats why I only play ruins. why would I play goblins caves to fight for the last 3 person portal. that kinda comment is why this community is toxic. I want crypts portals for a chance to not lose my whole kit. I know im not the only one who feels this way.

mystic yoke
# frigid berry <@274322545816240128> its not map knowledge thats the problem bro, when it duos ...

I manage to escape almost every time so it's definitely some kind of skill issue lol, that map is legit just much easier than the other two. Sounds like you know how to play on ruins but not GC so it does sound like map knowledge is the only issue.

The maps don't make you lose your kits bro, the only common denominator is you. Other people manage just fine. We can team if you want some tips or something.

jagged flicker
crude ridge
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fix shield hit boxes. I genuinely love being hit through my shield when I point it at what's hitting me

jagged flicker
steel sable
frigid berry
elder bobcat
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its a community opinion that GC is trash compared to the others. escapes are spread out too much. works ok in duos and solo but trash in 3's

mystic yoke
elder bobcat
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what is there to teach?

frigid berry
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that simple, people assume way to much fr.

mystic yoke
queen niche
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nerf barbarian

clever epoch
mossy barn
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텀블러를 버프해주세요

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(please buff tumble)

odd coral
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Please incorporate item position swapping in the bag itself. Currently, the utility belt has this feature, allowing users to drag an item onto another in the belt to initiate a position swap. However, this functionality is lacking in the bag. Users should be able to drag an item onto another item in the bag, facilitating a position swap. Additionally, the ability to swap items from the belt to bag by dragging them and initiating a position exchange should be enabled.

You can swap items between the bag and the belt, and they will trade positions.
You cannot drag items from the belt to the bag for a position swap; this action is not supported.
You cannot initiate a position swap by dragging an item onto another item within the bag.
Users should be able to drag items within the stash onto other items in the stash to swap.
Add hot keys to swap between stash tabs.
Make it so that you can click a item and have it on your mouse and then you can press a stash tab hot key and swap to it to drop the item in there.

In summary, both the bag, belt and stash should allow users to drag items onto others to facilitate position swaps, enhancing the overall usability of the system.

Please add this interface behavior ❤️

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/528008/bag-belt-and-stash-interface-behavior

soft nebula
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i will die on this hill spiders are the most ANNOYING things in this game, theyre buggy, shitty hitboxes, unrewarding, for some reason the nightmare versions exist, and theyre noteven super challenging , just a MASSIVE hassle to deal with, IMO, i think the spider spawn cap should be reduced to 2, and make them lootable so we can get our arrows back if were playing ranger. chellenges are fun, and they come with a reward, but from nightmare spider spawners? eh you get a white sellable

unborn yacht
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the cooldown for clerics divin protetion should be lowered

livid mason
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give increase cast speed to utility spell as a perk to use

unborn yacht
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i think the cooldown for diving protection should be 16 seconds or 24, or the ability itself should last 7 or 8 seconds

tepid finch
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i suggest the devs acknowledge that chaf games doesnt fucking work and that they need to migrate accounts to blacksmith

soft nebula
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No fall damage is great, but it would be an amazing change if falling from even short heights made more sound, I’ll be looting in well and I simply can NOT hear anyone else drop in which is unrealistic, even if they are invis

tepid finch
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at this point i'm just debating initiating a charge back and writing reports with the BBB

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whether it falls on ironmace or chaf games who knows who cares not me. if i cant play the game i just want my fucking money back now.

void panther
languid void
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bring back crypts and remove map rotation

wheat mirage
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Added another dungeoneering mechanic suggestion (Chronicling)
(please read/upvote any below if the mechanic interests you)

https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/528074/dungeoneering-mechanics-chronicling
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/523947/dungeoneering-mechanics-infernal-rituals
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/522889/dungeoneering-mechanics-bestiary
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/522875/dungeoneering-mechanics-herbalism-alchemy
https://darkanddarker.featureupvote.com/suggestions/522858/dungeoneering-mechanics-cartography

spice crest
small furnace
umbral canopy
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Played one high roller game today and realized why I quit.... fix traps still the dumbest fuck thing ive ever seen in a game before

rare snow
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an improvement to dagger mastery

make the damage bonus 5% (nerfed damage to allow space for buffs, and totally ok just removing the damage all together really)
remove the movement penalties from daggers (does not effect attacking animations that slow movement)
improve attack speed or movement

methods for last buff
-when killing an enemy gain 5% movement (15% on players) for 8 seconds
-when dealing damage gain 1% movement stacking up to 5 times for 2 seconds
-when attacking gain 2% attack speed stacking 5 times for 2.5 seconds (can be built up outside of combat)
-when killing an enemy gain 10% attack speed for 10 seconds

mossy barn
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Release the update

glass ivy
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Hello devs and idea harvesters, my idea is to add an auction system to the in-game sales chat. Players looking to sell an item can choose to do so via an auction. When a player opts for this method, an auction event is created in the chat, allowing other players to join and bid on the item. To keep things orderly, the number of participants in each auction can be limited. To prevent the sales chat from being overwhelmed by auction announcements, a big tax could be imposed on auction sales.

mossy barn
glass ivy
mossy barn
glass ivy
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ar

soft nebula
dense sentinel
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please move the training dummy a bit further from the wall in lobby before goblin caves so rogues can properly check damage with backstab perk

lapis basin
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Please let us play Crypts as a starting map again 😦

rare snow
wheat mirage
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Wouldn't mind Skinning being added.
Basically mining, except it requires a Skinning Knife, and your resource nodes are the animal creatures of the levels.
e.g.
Wolves, Giant Spiders, Cockatrice, Giant Centipede, Giant Worm, Death Beetle, Demon Bat, Demon Dog, Giant Bat, Giant Dragonfly, Mimic(?)

Skinning takes some time and gives a creature-based resource (e.g. Wolf would give Claw/Tooth/Hide). The creature being Normal/Elite/Nightmare impacts the amount or rarity of the resource.

But then remove those resources being dropped normally

wheat mirage
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Resurrection is generally a bit cumbersome between getting the soul, finding and clearing a res table, ressing and getting gear back all before the circle closes in.

If the table summoned their body that'd be nice. Then they'd just have anything that had not already been looted.

It's also be neat if escaping with someone's soul meant they were treated as escaping (no AP loss)

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My reasoning is that resurrection takes a long while. And my version has them not carrying the body, just the soul. But resurrecting summons the body (e.g. they get their body and loot back when coming back to life)

In the time inbetween picking up the soul and actually ressing, anyone can come along and simply loot the dead person's body. I think it'd be easier to implement as a mechanic, while still making resurrection a better option

vale pivot
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I wish they'd add more keys to the game that would unlock more rooms..not as rare as golden key/hoard but more common keys from mobs that would open some new locked doors in the map or something..with like royal or golden chests maybe marvelous

steel sable
worn lava
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unpopular idea what if the rank system determined the highest gear you could bring in highroller pathfinder up to blue voyager purple so on the system we got now is fine i just enjoy change and spice i hate that repetitive feeling you get from the same thing after awhile

jagged flicker
halcyon pilot
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make golden scarf wearable for warlock, it is the same item as shadow mask so there is no reason not to do it

void panther
ripe turtle
digital seal
real trellis
steel sable
void panther
wet onyx
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it would be nice for wizard to get buffed. we wizards are underpowered, wizards should be more powerful and strong and viable. fireball needs a 5th charge.

digital seal
runic night
# wet onyx it would be nice for wizard to get buffed. we wizards are underpowered, wizards ...

Fireball is extremely easy and high power at the moment. I think his other spells are what needs buffing but only by a little bit because wizard is probably the class that has the highest potential to wipe a squad by himself but it takes skill to do that. It’s not anyone can play him and do that but right now anyone can play him and be a benefit to the team. Trios is almost a have to have a wizard because of the huge damage that they can deal along with the many utilities that they have.

subtle shadow
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allow us to cancel melee swings just like everything else

void panther
runic night
# subtle shadow allow us to cancel melee swings just like everything else

That’s not a very good idea because that would make blocking super easy and fast. You have to have some backlash when it comes to actions which it does right now of knowing when to swing and when not to. This would completely change the game of faking hits which is dumb and not realistic at all because once you start swinging you shouldn’t be able to stop.

subtle shadow
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not that realism = fun all the time

runic night
subtle shadow
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sure add an action cooldown penalty. cant act until it would have finished whatever. but its one of the first gotchas a new player experiences - click, start backswing, mob dies, smack friend accidentally. 'oh that game was clunky'

inland haven
small furnace
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I don't feel like feinting would be at home in this game at all. As someone else said just look down at the end of your swing so you don't hit your friend.

subtle shadow
small furnace
subtle shadow
small furnace
subtle shadow
small furnace
# subtle shadow it sure is a ground breaking game.. certainly not finished though. At some point...

It's a balance decision to make attacks non-cancellable. There are games like Mordhau and Chivalry that exist with feinting in mind. It's not like the dev didn't think of feinting as it's a pretty obvious mechanic when it comes to games like this.

I don't think feinting would serve much purpose in combat and the game is better off without it. Melee combat is overtly simple in this game and I think that's the way the devs want it.

subtle shadow
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maybe you have more insight into the devs vision. what I see is, features like riposte take time, they are coming though.

small furnace
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I doubt it, longsword exists with riposte. It's not like it's hard to give different weapons a block riposte. They just chose not to.

subtle shadow
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not hard, but takes time. Animations indicating you cant act due to having cancelled your swing (same time it would have taken to swing, just without hitbox, just an example of such a feature) For every weapon! Thats a lot of animating

small furnace
subtle shadow
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I'll have to get used to streamers accidentally doing 1 extra swing of their combo and hitting the corpse

runic night
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They should give rogue a double handed dagger that can riposte.

subtle shadow
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now we are talking.. anyway what kind of manager says 'ok dev make a start on advanced melee mechanics'. 'Nice, longsword riposte! Now stop forever, such things are not in my vision'

inland haven
subtle shadow
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smack the dead mob so it looks intentional, but we know it was an accidental over-combo

small furnace
glacial sphinx
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if you could cancel a swing you could avoid being parried, just gotta be very precise in this game with when you decide to swing

tough willow
subtle shadow
tough willow
glacial sphinx
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swing cancelling is a bad idea

subtle shadow
subtle shadow
glacial sphinx
subtle shadow
glacial sphinx
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if you suffered every penalty you currently do by cancelling then theres no point to cancel anymore. But implementing that is a pain and nonsensical. It'd let you cancel out of hitting into block or parry which has larger recovery and possible extra damage for your opponent. If it still saves your teammate from being hit when you accidently swing at them, then I don't agree that that risk should be taken out. Just be careful swinging larger weapons.

wet onyx
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I suggest a wizard buff. Wizard is my favorite class, and has been nerfed to poo poo levels. We need wizard buffs, more fireball charges and stronger zaps. Thank you.

fathom bolt
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idk about zap but fireball sure

soft nebula
# rare snow in what way do rogues have any form of better movement then other classes? every...

they start off with more movement than any other class, and you can build more movement on top of that, you also have smoke cloud which can slow enemies enhancing the gap or shadow runner closing the gap. my only issue currently is that classes like barb ARE far too fast and have too much damage on them and health, i think rogue is in a spot where minimal changes are needed but to landmine, and other classes around it must be changed.

wet onyx
fathom bolt
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but that comment was

soft nebula
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ive been running naked wiz and been fucking up geared players, wiz is hard to play but so fkn strong, and zap+slow is busted

soft nebula
fathom bolt
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i propose warlock demon form has massive honkers and if you are not a dev DO NOT RESPOND

subtle shadow
soft nebula
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while bossing, people have stopped really taking cleanse, now i have a better idea, why not make cleanse more versatile? we can reduce its charges to 3, and now, allow for more power. warlord cones? cleanseable. ghost king pools? cleanseable. buffball? cleanseable, it would be strong, but to go with it its charges could be reduced significantly

subtle shadow
soft nebula
soft nebula
glacial sphinx
# subtle shadow theres still a point to cancelling, no hitbox! and you wont look silly smacking ...

I think it will look silly if you are mid way a swing you clearly put your force behind and suddenly it stops mid air. And I dont think it fits at all, just need to be careful to not hit your teammates if you wanna look cool. As to looking away for parrying being the same as an instant cancel, I don't agree thats the same since you may still strike terrain or a teammate or something else when looking away.

subtle shadow
subtle shadow
wet onyx
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I suggest dungeon fishing and wizard buffs. Thank you.

glacial sphinx
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Agreed. And add meteor swarm so I can reduce the amount of teamers on the ruins bridge.

earnest swift
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barb is two shotting most players (anyone not in full armor) so i think rogue should get nerfed again

indigo grail
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barbs need a fat nerf

light hound
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Clerics are insane with 2 spell wheels, so I think we should nerf rogue

jagged flicker
pallid vector
steep cape
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Ping system so teammates can ping for traps or bear traps that they placed, would help mute people too or people who dont have mics

lapis tangle
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Barbarian sucks ass.

indigo grail
ruby quartz
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BARBARIANS DONT NEED ACHELEIES STRIKE ON FUCKING LANTURNS AND TORCHES. LIKE HONESTLY. THEY ONE SHOT ALREADY

sick crane
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IRON MACE PLEASE FIX YOUR DAMN GAME. HIGHER RANK LOBBIES EVERYONE IS ESP AND SCRIPTING. FORGET ABOUT ATTEMPTING TO UPDATE OR BALANCE THE GAME. GET A DAMN BETTER ANTICHEAT

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GAME SECURITY IS DOG SHIT. LOVE THIS GAME BUT THIS SHIT GETTING RIDICULUOUS.

atomic hedge
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What if there was an AP multiplier when you extract, that increases depending on:
how many people, out of how many ever joined the lobby, are left alive. Sort of a Battle Royale. The last person standing gets the biggest multiplier. Also if the lobby was empty from the beginning, it's just a standard multiplier
Incentives chasers to build more chase gear, more betrayal between players etc

wintry egret
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IRON MACE PLEASE FIX YOUR DAMN GAME. HIGHER RANK LOBBIES EVERYONE IS ESP AND SCRIPTING. FORGET ABOUT ATTEMPTING TO UPDATE OR BALANCE THE GAME. GET A DAMN BETTER ANTICHEAT
GAME SECURITY IS DOG SHIT. LOVE THIS GAME BUT THIS SHIT GETTING RIDICULUOUS.

wind parrot
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Will you be giving the otto plush owners a code for smth?

night token
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BARB DOESNT NEED A NERF EVERYONE ELSE JUST NEEDS A BUFF

alpine granite
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yo what if they combined the red portals of 2 ruins map servers and threw both of them into the same howling crypts so there could be better pvp and still have some mystery in the dungeon

timid ibex
unborn yacht
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the worm mini boss thing has a huge invisible hitbox which prevents player from touching levers through it i just got killed by another player because of this bullcrap

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was supposed to be able to bring the evaluator back up but it was being block by NPC's unnecessarily large inviable barrier keeping me from interacting with it while a fighter jumps me

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i know im correct when i say theres a huge invisible wall blocking interaction with objects around the worm

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CLERICS SHOULD BE ABLE TO WEAR FINE CUIRASS AND USE LONGSWORD BUT CLEARLY DEVS DONT KNOW WHAT A STEREOTYPICAL HOLY PALADIN LOOKS LIKE, THEY SAID THE CLERIC IS A HOLY PALADIN THATS A LIE FOR AS LONG AS YOU CANT AT LEAST USE LONGSWORD AS CLERIC

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everybody knows the setereo typical holy paladin wields longsword and flail, of course i dont expect flail to get added as it would be hard to implement

real trellis
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What is the point of Void Blade's 1 magic damage if it's not magical weapon damage? Literal only use case is BoC or a friendly wizard igniting your weapon, and only adds 1 damage, how is that supposed to compare to ANY of the Divine Weapons that have 15% undead dmg boost, or the spear of rot's 1 true phys dmg, or Centaur's Madness having armor pen? Worst named craftable by FAR - at least Demon's Glee is useful for poison rogue builds. Like is this some kind of joke?

wheat mirage
worn lava
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Change spiders I think it's funny a small pot can somehow manage to fit infinite amount of spiders in it and having them come out of a pot makes no sense instead have the pot sit straight up and just be a bashable vase and the spiders instead of coming out of a pot. They should hang from the ceiling when you get close to them. They fall down there's no infinite spawning them anymore no coming out of pots have them be in a web on the ceiling or in a corner on the ceiling have 1 or 2 maybe even 3 bunched up everyone is tired of them I don't think anyone wants them the way you designed them anymore how many times have you seen a spider come out of a pot in real life compared to on the ceiling point made

smoky brook
unborn yacht
jovial swan
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Honestly, I feel the best change for this game right now would be to remove gear leveling. You know, how the stats of gear level up per rarity.

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That way no more W Key Barb, no more Rogues of absurd move speed, no more BS gameplay.

fleet venture
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Please can we take away blow of corruption. being two tapped while being buffed and max health is a joke. so boring

crude kite
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Nerf barbarian

manic fox
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IRONMACE PLEASE LET US EDIT CHARACTER NAMES AFTER GIVING THEM

neon hawk
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please give otto the dog a hitbox so i can punch him in the waiting lobby 🤜 Otto

muted grail
jovial swan
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I'm gonna be real, there should be no reason Ranger should have so much speed to them. If the point of the class is to "be at range", then they need to be punished once someone manages to approach, not have an escape option ready for them.

To this end, Ranger's Agility should be reduced to 8 and Dexterity increased to 30. Just to see how that fares with balance.

runic night
naive owl
runic night
neon hawk
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Please add a feature to give otto the dog some chocolate

muted grail
granite plinth
neon hawk
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please give otto the target dummy coding so you can see how much damage your weapon does

zenith falcon
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I can't play with shadow. It was my only way to play the game for the next 6 months, I paid the subscription only for dark and darker as I only want to play this game and I can't launch it on chaf games.
They even don't want to refund me even if they are useless to me now that I know that the game is certainly the only game they can't run.
I want to die.

void panther
dense vapor
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I like the idea of PVE getting stronger as the ice storm moves in. Like they’re benefiting from the climate.

oblique rover
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Make preteaming a one to two year ban.

jovial tinsel
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add spell scroll drops with Knowledge requirements. Would be neat to find a fire ball x1 as a warlock or some rogue. You can tweak them to be weaker since they are based on the scrolls and not the caster

outer meteor
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hello. I came back after the most recent patches and realised something on a couple of matches. Chaotic Discord (for bard) doesn't count for kills for both PVE and PVP. What I mean is, if an NPC kill each while on your 'control' it never counts as a kill. You dont get that sweet AP. It should! I know it is a minor problem, espercially in PVP kills! But in PVE it does make a difference in AP. I tested using Piercing Shrill and Chaotic with the same gear. Also, let me tell you: Discord is fantastic in the right situation. I just destroyed a aggressive melee warlock (he had a purple Zwei and I was green geared. No usage of Charismatic performance of ranged weapons/throwables). What I did was, evade and aggro wolfs. Then discorded them on a safe wall. As the warlock came they slowed him and targeted him, hitting 2 or three times. He tried to swing at me but I was faster and the mobs finished him off. Note: chaotic, as it is chaotic aggro, can fail to target players for sure. But it still can slow them down with a mob-wall betwen them and you. Which is cool, specially when you deaggro and run away. Forcing them to atk the player. Bye bye waterfly

patent mauve
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Named legendaries with cool effects, give us the double jump "Cloud shoes" with the old shoes as the base.

hardy vector
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ban all teaming

digital seal
ocean silo
mystic yoke
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Please give druids a wolf form. It can be fast and apply a slow on hit, like the classic D&D wolves having a trip attempt on thier bite attacks. But squishy so they wouldn't want to do it unless chasing someone down or flanking with a team

arctic fable
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What if to nerf barb you just remove achilles strike from throwables and only have it for melee?

harsh forge
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im not sure how to go about it but warlock early game needs buff and lock late game needs nerf

neon hawk
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Let us hold the item "skeleton bone" as a weapon so we can use it as a way to make otto jealous

muted grail
granite plinth
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Honestly.. buff ranger he’s weak rn

tropic agate
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do something for the rogue pls , full bis 134hp get kill with 2 hit by Fighter falchion and dont kill him with 3 head shot Castillon daguer that dame scam

untold perch
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I have an idea to add more armor without inflating the whole loot pool pretty much make armor dungeon specific for example making templar armor a ruins specific armor since ruins is a destroyed castle makes sense then that would give lee way for more armor like the ice caves could have armor sets that have fur and leather and just look warm goblin caves could have armor maybe made of bones and random scraps of metal smth like that I think this would make ppl want to go into a specific dungeon more so that can try and get a more specific armor piece they want rather than just hoping to get it anywhere just and idea me and my friend had that would be cool would like to hear feedback thx

proud sigil
tropic agate
proud sigil
worn lava
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Change spiders I think it's funny a small pot can somehow manage to fit infinite amount of spiders in it and having them come out of a pot makes no sense instead have the pot sit straight up and just be a bashable vase and the spiders instead of coming out of a pot. They should hang from the ceiling when you get close to them. They fall down there's no infinite spawning them anymore no coming out of pots have them be in a web on the ceiling or in a corner on the ceiling have 1 or 2 maybe even 3 bunched up everyone is tired of them I don't think anyone wants them the way you designed them anymore how many times have you seen a spider come out of a pot in real life compared to on the ceiling point made

dull sinew
lapis tangle
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Make Meditation a skill that auto activates when you sit down. Allow players to look around when meditating, and tone down the sound that plays. Make spells restore faster.
Barbarian does not need Iron Will, remove or nerf heavily. Slow barbarian down significantly.

jovial swan
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{Wizard}
Wizard is currently the least effective and most difficult class to play. Their lack of self-sufficiency, damage and support capabilities, and heavy reliance on gear and a select set of spells, leaves them lagging behind other casters, and their low health makes them too squishy. The following changes address Wizard in a meaningful way:

{New Spell Casting System - Magic Meter}

In order to differentiate the Wizard from other spellcasting classes, they are no longer bound to charges on their spells. Instead, they now have a Magic Meter that is bound to all spells.

The Magic Meter has a base of 80 charges with several methods to restore the meter:
-The meter automatically restores itself over time, but at a very slow rate of 1 charge every 10 seconds.
-The meter restores itself by 3 charges every tick when resting normally.
-The meter restores itself by 9 charges every tick when resting by a campfire.
-The meter restores itself by 14 charges every tick when using Meditate.
-The meter restores itself by 1 charge every 3 physical damage dealt to an enemy.
-The meter can be restored with Potions of Clarity.

The Magic Meter increases in charges based on the Will of the Wizard.

{Spells - Costs}

Instead of having a set amount of casts, all spells now have magic costs to them:
Zap: 8 MP
Light Orb: 2 MP
Slow: 6 MP
Ice Bolt: 8 MP
Ignite: 5 MP
Magic Missile: 12 MP
Haste: 8 MP
Lightning Strike: 12 MP
Invisibility: 10 MP
Fireball: 8 MP
Explosion: 8 MP
Chain Lightning: 20 MP

{Attributes}

Wizard's Vigor is increased from 7 to 12.
Wizard's Resourcefulness is reduced from 15 to 10.

{Weapons}

Wizard now has access to the Rapier and Falchion.

(1/2; next are some perks that would be nice for Wizard)

tropic agate
jovial swan
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{Perks}

Mana Overload is a new perk; increases the damage, effectiveness and duration of spells by 20%, but increases their magic costs by 50%.
Magic Weapon Mastery is a new perk; increases the magic damage, impact power and attack speed of the Crystal Sword by 50%. Increases the attack speed of the Magic Staff by 50%.
Magic Proficiency is a new perk; increases the magic meter's base charges by 20.
Mana Control is a new perk; reduces the magic cost of all spells by 50%, but reduces their effectiveness, damage and duration by 20%.
Dagger Proficiency is a new perk; grants the ability to use all daggers and adds 3 magic damage to each dagger based attack.

{Spells}

Reflect: Cast a barrier in front of yourself that reflects projectiles back at their owner. Costs 8 MP.
Scintilla: Cast a barrier of light in front of yourself that absorbs one physical attack, then exploding and dealing magic damage relative to half that physical attack's damage. Costs 15 MP.
Gravity Field: Cast a field of gravity that forces opponents down, rendering them unable to jump. Costs 10 MP.
Fire Bolt: Shoots a small fireball projectile that goes twice as fast and deals less damage than Fireball. Costs 6 MP.
Fear: Casts fear upon the target, reducing their physical damage output by 15% for 3 seconds. Costs 8 MP.
Eruption: Casts a fiery fissure in front of you in a cone shape, dealing 3 fire damage every step the opponent takes. Lasts 10 seconds and costs 13 MP.
Shatter: Casts a fireball that immediately erupts into 15 smaller fragments of molten fire, each dealing light damage alone, but dealing significant damage altogether. Costs 8 MP.

(2/2)

jovial swan
# tropic agate 12 vigor and use Rapier and Falchion ? LMAO

The reason I'm giving them more vigor is to allow them to have more survivability and capability to use their spells in battle.
The reason I'm giving them the Rapier and Falchion is because they use the Rapier in 5e, and the Falchion in this game is similar to the Scimitar in 5e, which they also use. These weapons seem very versatile and decent enough to use for Wizard, and given their low STR stat, they won't be too powerful.

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You cannot deny, though, that all of what I listed would be pretty nice for Wizard to have.

tropic agate
jovial swan
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It's why most of the new perks add support to Wizard in small, but meaningful ways, and the spells are mostly support-based (as Wizard will eventually be). The addition of the weapons is to also give them new tools to better combat PvE and have something to use with Ignite other than two of the worst weapons in the game.

strong grotto
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So, got back into the game after some long rest and, wow. It is better. Especially since my and suggestions I've supported were implemented in one way or the other. There is still one huge problem, two actually, with Barbarians and Wizards.
Barbs are just straight out best class in the game, has all of the "holy trinity" of RPGs that is damage, speed and tankiness. It still is the best ranged option in the game as well, because usually, if you are able to close distance to a ranged player he dies. With barb though... You do NOT want to close distance with THAT lol! Anywho, IMace, please, stop jumping around this problem and nerf the barbarians already! Limit his survivability or at least make those throwing axes a SKILL and not an item!
Wizards. Oh, boy... Everyone else playing fast paced FPS extraction sim. You are playing turn-based tactics game. That is you spend a half or more of your time in dungeon doing... Nothing. You just sit on the ground waiting for a crossbow bolt in your forehead. And no, meditation is stupid, you NEED 10 slots to play wizard, especially solo. And I believe I have a solution. There is two options, really:
1 - bring back clarity potions, stop being stupid, IMace, you have much bigger problems than that green liquid of unknown origin.
2 - give them "lucid dreaming perk" with the following effect: when you cast a spell, you regen X spell points for OTHER SPELLS in the SAME MEMORY SLOT the spell cast is in. This will provide wizard with more sustain to run the dungeons and people will start casting spells more smart too. Why it should be a perk you say and not some skill to buff you for a set amount of time? Because, as I've said, the wizards do really NEED all 10 slots to cast. And if you go in trio or duo, where wizards are not as bad as solo, you can always swap that perk for something else, depending on the team composition.
I am done. Will go back playing and waiting for IMace to implement my another suggestion. Have a nice one, folks.

sinful bobcat
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fix the random disconnecting in HR lobbies

raw sierra
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FIX YOUR SERVERS. Just got DC'd in high roller and lost my legendary gear. When I reconnected I was dead 😦 Thanks IronMace

strong grotto
tough willow
worn lava
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Allow us devs to customize our cursor with selective designs you picked and change the color of them

tough willow
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Honestly guys if you think wizard is bad, you just suck. Wizard is incredibly underrated. You need to start focusing on building your characters attributes correctly, this will lead to your success. Want high damage? Build it. You’ll sacrifice for health, or for speed though. I hate seeing new players come in and try to make these classes “pick up and play”. There should be a skill level to it, like there is. So just keep playing the class, I’ve seen many points where a wizard is geared out and can kill someone in a few hits…

tropic agate
jovial swan
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Back when they still used art for the class selection and not models.

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But before they went off of Steam to do playtests, for sure.

tough willow
# jovial swan Playtest 2 or 3.

Unlimited magic missiles with damage, use of falchion, and more base health? Don’t you know they just nerfed wizards for a reason?

jovial swan
# tough willow Unlimited magic missiles with damage, use of falchion, and more base health? Don...
  1. It's not unlimited. You still need to work to make use of them.
  2. The damage has a drawback, a huge one at that.
  3. You would be surprised how little a Falchion would do on a character with 6 Strength.
  4. Higher base health wouldn't hurt anyone. 12 Vigor and 6 STR would be slightly less than Ranger, still, if my math's right.
  5. Yes, and I'm not buffing them back, I'm giving a compromise for them. Additional magic damage at the cost of significant additional magic cost is something I feel would be fair. None of the changes I've listed have added back any of the previously removed damage at base.
strong grotto
# tough willow Honestly guys if you think wizard is bad, you just suck. Wizard is incredibly un...

Honestly, if you think that wizard is easy to be built, then you should just stop typing. You are talking like it doesn't require you any gold or time to do so, all the while every encounter with DEFAULT barbarian or ranger will result in even geared wizard to die in 2 seconds. And even IF you are able to defeat them, now you are out of slots, HP and probably surrounded by dozen of mobs because you had to run like hell through the map from all the axes and naked magic resistant rage barbarians have. And then, the most "fun" experience of solo wizard begin. You must SIT your ass on the ground and stay for a while, because all of your juice just gone out of the window (right with your sanity) and pray for Lord, that there is no fighter with stroked to full length crossbow to find you. And there are rogues, of course, there are those living landmines everywhere.
BTW, if YOU think, that wizard is so strong, that you "just build him" and he is so "underrated", then, PLEASE, show me RAW DATA. Show me how many there are high ranked wizards per head count and compare it to all other classes. Then you will realize how stupid you are. And, hopefully, will shut your trap about things you don't understand.

upper hearth
strong grotto
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Yup.

vale pivot
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let us change skills in the lobby

upper hearth
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Massively increase the swing penalty and add a massive move penalty for a blocked hit. A barb shouldn't be able to have a giant sword riposted and hop back before it can connect.

lapis tangle
real trellis
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I see a certain someone is making harebrained suggestions again

jolly pond
lapis tangle
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Yeah I'd pass on the Wizard getting the Rapier and Falchion, some of the dperls need tweaking but I like that idea. As it is Wizard doesn't feel good to play. A lot of sitting down and just waiting for someone to stumble on you.

jovial swan
arctic fable
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Please add a cancel ability for drinking a potion lol

mental crag
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Please add a quest feature so you can see your quests in-game

jovial swan
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As far as rebalance goes, however:

{Scintilla}

Cast a wall of light in front of your position. If an opponent hits this wall with a physical attack, the wall explodes and deals damage proportionate to half the attack's physical damage as magic.

Scintilla has a duration of 1.25 seconds when activated.
Scintilla is a Tier 6 spell.

{Shatter}

Casts a fireball that instantly erupts into 15 smaller fragments of molten fire, each of which deal 3 magical damage per fragment and decays to 1 magical damage over time.

Shatter has a spread of 55 degrees, causing it to spread out quickly.
Shatter has a velocity of 8m/s that decays to 4m/s after 1 second.
Shatter is a Tier 5 spell.

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In my newer version of the Wizard rework concept, I kind of just ditched the mana bar and went with just making charges restorable through means other than resting, so these changes to my concepts reflect that.

glass verge
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would it be a good change to give wizards auto spellrecovery?

ebon jewel
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Need Backpack expansion

glass verge
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sanest barbarian xD

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thats just an extra unnecessary step

grand herald
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idk just re-add clarity pot and make it so when they use a spell the rest of the pot cancels so it isnt forever spells while fighting

glass verge
grand herald
glass verge
grand herald
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i mean a single slot with 3 pots is a lesser evil than sitting around for an hour

glass verge
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i mean sure, but i dont really like the idea of everything being tied to an item that obviously will fill up multiple slots of my inventory just so my class is playable

edgy mason
hallow flare
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They should just let arrows take up pocket space

unborn yacht
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solo que is a joke in high roller, its where the imbalances show the most

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barbarian being tank movespeed and DPS with the ability to slow anyone to a halt with 1 strike is OP and you cant really attack that without being across the map with ranged or ur fucked unless you happen to be doing the same thing as them, and i know its already been said so many times here already

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i feel like the most balance you can get with any class fighting a diff class is fighter VS cleric

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or ranged magic or phys VS ranged magic or phys class

fluid trench
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Haha fighter vs cleric is balanced. Where?)

hallow flare
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To be fair, this game is balanced around team fights, so this game will never be balanced for 1v1s. Some classes will, and should, have the advantage in 1v1s. Barb is a problem, but mostly because you can’t even run from them. They should be one of the strongest classes in a 1v1 scenario, the problem is it’s impossible to escape them or reposition against them. Removing their ability to go invis was definitely a good step

fluid trench
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All saying that barb is problem and not saying that fighter is op in solos

warm solstice
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Please let us use green gear in normals.

Feels really bad qing a naked normal and getting out with a full set of greens only to be forced to vendor my whole set just to be able to queue another normal. Normals are a good introduction to push us into HR after a game and getting a green kit but sometimes I want to learn a new class with my friends and not be forced into ranked just to use my green gear. Am I out of touch?

meager jasper
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Unnerf platelock, the will negative is way too much.

glass verge
patent mauve
left moon
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Wizard perk idea: you can stand up instantly from sitting/meditation.

glass verge
patent mauve
glass verge
patent mauve
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Fighter sprint should ignore 50% of the move speed penalty for gear and grant 15-20 move speed instead of flat 50. This would nerf slayer slightly and make plate feel less sluggish.

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Same should apply to Barbarian rage, make it a 5% speed boost and make it ignore armor penalty by 50-75%, this would nerf base kit barbarian cheesers and make geared with full tunic feel better.

hard agate
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Achilles Strike for Barbarians should operate the same as Blow of Corruption for Warlocks as in it is timed. With a Warlock you can go in and then back up until they use BoC and then wait it out for a good time to push. With Barbarians they can pop Achilles Strike and have a constant advantage if you go in to fight unless they have to hit a mob or miss and hit a wall.

meager jasper
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tbh ironmace has a serious lack of a good QA testing in general. I'm concerned that they're so focused on releasing a content patch when the game has these very core glaring issues. They always seem to make these massive sweeping balance changes too, rather than actually reasonable smaller changes and then reacting based on feedback, and each time they do, the meta completely shifts to accommodate it unpredictably. They just gimp classes repeatedly (except for ranger, or fighter, which are their obvious favourites)

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I'm guessing they're going to stomp barbarian into the ground eventually, but the fact they think that franciscas are the problem for barbs in their video is telling. Franciscas are an extremely minor part of why they are so strong right now.

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On the contrary, barbs should be balanced, and allowed to use more franciscas rather than having to fill their inventory with the things. They should be retrievable, and always should have been.

wheat mirage
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Give Bard songs exclusive categories.
e.g. Make it so certain buffs or debuffs can't be active at the same time.
Then, buff those songs to account for the fact that they can't all be active.

End result: Bard plays less, but actually has to choose which songs fit a situation, and those songs are more impactful

hallow flare
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Frans are just how they normally prock Achilles strike, which combined with their speed is the real problem right now

meager jasper
# hallow flare Frans are just how they normally prock Achilles strike, which combined with thei...

The biggest problem they have is that there is no counter to them. Their natural opponents should be rangers and casters. But they have one of the best perks to counter magic and they're able to match the speed of both of their counters, which means they can easily catch them. They shouldn't have that perk and they shouldn't be that fast, but they definitely should have easier access to franciscas in an effort to be able to skirmish better at middling ranges.

hallow flare
meager jasper
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Yep.

hallow flare
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Hopefully that does mean always being able to retrieve them, throwing knives too

whole warren
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Just make bard songs playable on all instruments. But add special effects for specifik instruments when songs are played, bards want their hot bars too!

regal trail
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They should add slimes as enemies as a replacement for spider mummy’s in a future map

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Slimes make me feel whimsical Fr

scarlet temple
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BARD MOBS BARD MOBS BARD MOBS

tight python
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i swear there has to be some fix for teaming its absolutely ridiculous

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i feel like if there was a strict pve map it would take the casuals elsewhere leavin only try hard kill hunger lobbies what do yall think

jovial swan
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I really despise the fact that Crypts is literally mobfest 5000 because of a bug making it so that only TWO versions of the map pool can ever spawn at all.

regal trail
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Facts why do I have to be cornered by spider mummy’s when it can be slimes😩

static turret
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rogue owo

ruby kestrel
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please add a druid chat in the discord before druid even releases

patent mauve
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Let oil lanterns reveal stealthed targets when shining light on them.

junior spoke
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Ah yes nerf rogue even more!!

ruby kestrel
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if they were to do that they would need to buff stealth duration or sumn. having a way for other classes to defend against landmine would be kinda nice.

glacial zephyr
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"Landmine" doesnt exist

patent mauve
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Playtest 5 turned rogues from a meme class always rated at B-C tier in everyone's videos into A+/S tier

patent mauve
glacial zephyr
void panther
junior spoke
runic night
junior spoke
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I think he meant rogue landmine

runic night
# junior spoke I think he meant rogue landmine

Nope I mean barb. It’s crazy that barbs are a better landmine than rogues. That’s why they made them not able to use invis pots but even then they can just camp corners or forts and still landmine.

patent mauve
runic night
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Idk how good rogue was back then I just know right now they need some love.

junior spoke
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yeah agreed

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The thing was that back then we had dmg modifiers on EVERYTHING, rogue was getting 10+ additional dmg from gear and all his abilities were un nerfed

patent mauve
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Maybe if they changed the AP system, rn it benefits rogue the most

junior spoke
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now, the abilities are all giga nerfed, the add dmg is nerfed, his base stats nerfed, too many compounding problems for him to be anywhere near his old glory

patent mauve
junior spoke
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yeah but for those of us who actually want to be able to fight and contest other classes, he feels shit

jovial swan
junior spoke
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but yeah you're not wrong, rogue is great for gold farming and ratting, its just boring not being able to actually fight

jovial swan
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Until Ambush, Hide and Shadow Runner are all gutted, Rogue cannot be in a good position to buff whatsoever.

patent mauve
junior spoke
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was he restarted???? thats an unlosable fight in litterally any situation for him

patent mauve
junior spoke
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bro base kit rogue has pool noodle knives...

patent mauve
junior spoke
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yeah idk skill issue on his end

patent mauve
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Yeah skill issue is why rogue is so good, the class is defined by using all the tools at their disposal to find their enemies vulnerabilities.

junior spoke
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Barb vs rogue is like, maybe the worst matchup in the game

patent mauve
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Which is why we should consider that majority of players aren't in the top 1% of skill levels. Yeah barbarian is busted rn and needs nerfs too

Fighter sprint should ignore 50% of the move speed penalty for gear and grant 15-20 move speed instead of flat 50. This would nerf slayer slightly and make plate feel less sluggish.

Same should apply to Barbarian rage, make it a 5% speed boost and make it ignore armor penalty by 50-75%, this would nerf base kit barbarian cheesers and make geared with full tunic feel better.

jovial swan
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What Rogue needs right now is pretty simple.
-Make Ambush and Shadow Runner require 3 seconds of Hide to activate.
-Make Ambush 15% additional physical power.
-Make "Hidden" Rogues become more visible the closer another player is to them in the light.
-Make Hide have an incredible downside to using improperly.
-Make Hide unusable if you have any light source on you, Potions included on the belt.

After that, then you can talk about buffs to Rogue.

pallid vector
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rogue is complete garbage it doesnt need anymore nerfs its useless class lol

junior spoke
patent mauve
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Rogue on paper still has some of the highest potential DPS and that's what IM balances around it seems with their in house 1v1s

jovial swan
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The only reason he has that to begin with is because of the dumbest single perk in the game.

glass verge
jovial swan
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People got pissy when Weakpoint Attack did 50% damage back in the day. What is so different now with Ambush?

pallid vector
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u see basically no rogues in high ranks other than those with smokepot just to loot

junior spoke
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balancing around 1v1's is kinda fucking troll though as its the only gamemode where rogue is actually above garbage tier

patent mauve
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My barbarian has a 55% PPB kit rn before rage, and berserker. With those he can reach 100% PPB in a fight.its insane

junior spoke
jovial swan
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Y'know, in hindsight, I know what would completely, utterly fix all of the spawn rushing issues on Ruins.
Literally making the walls bigger.

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That way no one can just jump over this crap anymore and come into your tile unannounced.

patent mauve
glass verge
junior spoke
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nah not you, the guy you responded to

glass verge
jovial swan
pallid vector
patent mauve
glass verge
jovial swan
glass verge
patent mauve
patent mauve
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I want slayer fighter nerfed, it should be more of a niche build option instead of the current meta for fighters.

glass verge
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i loved the openness of ruins. while it sometimes was annoying to be killed from a huge range or parkour, it was kinda fun and had its own appeal

pallid vector
void panther
patent mauve
glass verge
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i would love for rogue to have perks that interact with the environment more, that make him stronger or faster or anything in the dark

pallid vector
patent mauve
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Bring back the weaker than punches rondel xD

glass verge
void panther
glass verge
patent mauve
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Still can't believe that rogues have less starter HP than wizards now. Lmaooo

runic night
pallid vector
patent mauve
pallid vector
patent mauve
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Rogue on wiki is saying 81 HP

pallid vector
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old hp

patent mauve
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They have the str at 6 but I know that's wrong too. I think wizard is like 84-86 and rogue is like 78-80~ which is hilarious

pallid vector
radiant dagger
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This may sound a bit stupid, but technically we could fold some pieces of clothing, aswell as the cloaks to reduce the amount of Stash/Inventory-Space they take up.

elfin vale
runic night
astral shard
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for high roller make requirement to have at least one piece of green gear to avoid fresh spawns just rushing in hopes to get a geared kill. Been seeing this a lot.

ripe wren
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Have they considered adding gem sockets to gear like in wow.. or enchants for equipment

neon hawk
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please let us feed chocolate to otto

ripe wren
patent mauve
ripe turtle
patent mauve
dry glacier
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cold map should have ice patches where if you run too fast you slip countering the movement speed meta

calm crater
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i made a post lmk what you guys think and i made a few more

small furnace
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Modified several areas in the Ruins to make it more difficult for double-jump quick traversal on certain modules. Jesus, just remove double jump from the game if you really want it to have no use.

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The timing, type, and number of Escape/Down Portals that appear in Solo, Duos, and Trio matches no longer are synchronized while the overall amount of escape portals has also been significantly decreased to nudge players to be more aggressive to survive. Also tone deaf, ignoring the problem which is that fighting people is too risky and not worth if you're trying to rank up.

fiery saddle
glacial sphinx
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Add more Wizard spells and perks. Wizard has the fewest perks and spells despite being the main spellcaster. Also, base damage is in a bad place and Lightning Strike hitbox is still unreliable.

fiery lance
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Floor population suggession why not award players wit ha currency token for extracting on floor 2/3. When you do the server smashes repopulating on each floor launch give parties a was to start on a floor 2/3 wave say 5 tokens. You keep each floor population up, and new dynamic in HR now you have to worry about potentual fresh teams entering when your floor 2/3 start easy to balance by ajusting token cost and keeps people from semi afking at a red stairs waiting for it to open.

runic night
small furnace
runic night
unkempt hazel
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Add more Wizard spells and perks. Wizard has the fewest perks and spells despite being the main spellcaster. Also, base damage is in a bad place and Lightning Strike hitbox is still unreliable.

lapis tangle
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Add more Wizard spells and perks. Wizard has the fewest perks and spells despite being the main spellcaster. Also, base damage is in a bad place and Lightning Strike hitbox is still unreliable. Make Meditation a skill that passively activates when you sit down. Allow the ability to look around during meditation and remove/retool the sound dampening effect.

small furnace
lapis tangle
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Yes, all the Barb players that flock to whatever is the easiest most cheese strat in the game. They don't play Barb because they like the playstyle or class fantasy, they play it because it's either play it or lose to it.

glacial sphinx
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dont think ranger needs more changes atm, after falloff change it's in a reasonable spot I think

small furnace
soft nebula
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the problem with rage was NEVER the vigor, it was the move speed. +45 move speed is absolutely inane, +15 would be much better

glacial sphinx
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that seems excessive, but like 10% instead of 15% would be ok, and do something similar to sprint then maybe

soft nebula
drowsy grotto
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We're gonna rock, don't stop, to electric avenue

drowsy grotto
small furnace
drowsy grotto
lapis tangle
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Add more Wizard spells and perks. Wizard has the fewest perks and spells despite being the main spellcaster. Also, base damage is in a bad place and Lightning Strike hitbox is still unreliable. Make Meditation a skill that passively activates when you sit down. Allow the ability to look around during meditation and remove/retool the sound dampening effect.

worldly grotto
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Please allow us to recover gingerbread we have turned in for the quest. I am at 97/100 and it will be a real shame to have never got to use them at all and never finish the quest

wise walrus
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just buy three

ruby estuary
scarlet mist
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How about making the ranged part of the Fighter and Barbarian a little less strong? Make Francisca deal a lot less damage but make it 3 stack. Make fighters with bows/crossbow have a -15% action speed while holding ranged weapons. This should make ranged classes deal better with the kiting and playing around with the distance.

cunning palm
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barbarian rage should increase action speed instead of movement speed

brazen token
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Rather than having all pvp rewarded equally, assign value to players based on what they've looted, and let players see this value when the player is spotted, maybe as a colored aura or something. Zero or low value kills penalize the killer somehow, because its actively interfering with the dungeon exploration and overall looting. High value kills don't carry a penalty and the killer can get some good loot since they now can pick whether or not the target is worth risk. Killing someone who picks a fight with you first carries no penalty.

This gives incentive to keep players around early, and incentive for betrayal later on when everyone can see who has the best estimated value. This also means more people survive to go down a floor or two, and could even result in some boss raids with huge betrayals at the end of the day. There could even be people trying to hide their loot, at which point someone else could steal it and run off.

limber elbow
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This ranking system is what creates teaming, if anyone uses equipment too well, all lobby teaming will kill that person and share items, the most useless thing is this extremely ridiculous ranking system.

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The current game cannot check and ban hackers because hackers use better software so the game is full of hackers repeating many games.

rare brook
desert oasis
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The game is crashing when i use a campfire on the ice caves

leaden wyvern
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Little frustrated at the portal nerf. Although happy there's less players I guess? Personally I'm a friendly dude and it has gotten me killed more times than not so I'm not really seeing this teaming problem your trying so hard to curb. 3rd parties sure, but that's all competitive games.

I thought the increase PvP points was a good incentive to get kills before you doubled it tbh, even if you do team there's still plenty of instances where there's not enough portals before hand. Just so happened 2/5 got lost to the storm already so which one of you is going down or dying? 🤷‍♂️

As a rat this is just gonna jack up the market and let people who already extract camp with purples and uniques have corpses full of loot left behind; probably allowing them to corner the market.

Curious to see how these new rules affect the map without the storm however. Big fan of no storm. Will have to play a little and see how much all this really hits 🙂

meager jasper
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Okay what the hell is this lol.

Demon form for warlock drains your hp constantly, turns your weapon into fist damage, and gives you a mediocre life steal effect that lasts for a few seconds. There is no reason anyone would use this ironmace. Seriously, try again. I hope this is just a bug and you don't realize how worthless you made these numbers.

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Even if I used it for the dark bolt, why would I sit and take the damage from demon form when I can have torture mastery up with regular darkbolts?

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From what I gather if the intent is that I used my soul collector charges to get +10 to all attributes... so? The demon is still swinging regular fists in damage.

jovial tinsel
limber elbow
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New Bug has been ADD can't use potion or bandage for some reason need to swap few time to use

bright stump
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no blue portals on frost cave is a bad move

wide lagoon
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bards need a rework

sterile sphinx
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Tumble no longer moves your character. it just does a back flip in space

low charm
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anybody else having disconnect from new map?

chilly skiff
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you all need to work on the spawn in locations for new map 3 times in a row i spawn in with multiple mobs within aggro range and nowhere to get space to fight

idle marlin
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Could they fix the Start/Update button in the launcher?

When pressing start, the button doesnt really activate visually & doesnt say when game is running.

And when Updating it always stays at 0% until it suddenly finished...

spice sigil
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Update is great. Once they fix the crashing I will play it. Gonna wait until they say it in announcements before I try again. overall I give it a hell yeah! Rating.

verbal matrix
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please show the Blizzard on the Mini map

azure breach
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When you do the emergency patch can you please revert us back to the previous inventory state ive lost 30 keys worth of kits because of performance issues

lapis tangle
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Add more Wizard spells and perks. Wizard has the fewest perks and spells despite being the main spellcaster. Also, base damage is in a bad place and Lightning Strike hitbox is still unreliable. Make Meditation a skill that passively activates when you sit down. Allow the ability to look around during meditation and remove/retool the sound dampening effect.

soft nebula
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yeah pls change the ice map escape method, having to have your entire team split up and also run into potentially already taken portals is EXTREMELY unfun, and unecessary. plus add in some type of new feature to combat this

still wyvern
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I’m really enjoying the new map. I do feel a little rushed trying to explore it maybe it can have hour long rotations.

soft nebula
silver grove
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Please add a fking note on the ice map that there are NO EXIT PORTALS! Me and a friend waited in the middle of the map till 1/8th was left assuming portals would pop soon till we figured no god damn portals spawn, we ran to find statics and they were all taken and lost our kits.

I feel like this info is extremely important to note on the map itself, we don't use discord all the time. We hopped onto the game, said aww cool new map lets take some good gear in and give it a go, just to die to a timer with zero knowledge there's no god damn portals...?

There are so many people dying saying "Why did no portals spawn?" - People out here thinking it's a bug.
Seems so weird you guys would release a map and not tell people such a crucial component in it's description

cursive canyon
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Make wizard a better class already. It gets countered by every other class in the game with a low health pool and movement speed. Also not to mention you have to run 10 spell to even have a chance at winning pvp meaning you are sitting down for 80-90% of the match. Unless you are just going in for kills and no loot so you can bring an inventory full of campfires that reduce your sitting time by half but even that is still bad and not engaging at all. I just think every class should be semi playable at base kit but with wizard you'll get rolled in base kit.

silver grove
cursive canyon
silver grove
# cursive canyon It's not. Lmao fighter is rank one in solos with over 200k. Also if you wanna ta...

Wizard has the highest skill cap in the game, the average player will struggle on it. Your statistics of "Most easy classes are higher ranks!" is irrelevant brother

Look at CS:GO, the scout is a dogass weapon, the average player will never buy it and opt for a P90, however high skilled players very often buy a Scout on Eco rounds as they're good and can secure kills

You gotta take into account skill differences within the class also, wizard is alot of micromanaging and spacing, where as PDR fighters can make mistakes, where a Wizard cannot, meaning more skilled and experienced players excell on wizard. Im mean fk, watch Apollo, I've watched him 3v1 people in base kits because he knows what to do in every situation

Only issue right now is Sitting Simulator and I Gueeeeessss movespeed needs a lil buff on him

Also my apologies, it's Feet rank 1 in duos that's a Wizard.

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God I love feet.... anguish

tepid crane
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Rangers traps being deleted and instead giving them nature magic, like an entangling roots or something

cursive canyon
# silver grove Wizard has the highest skill cap in the game, the average player will struggle o...

I've never seen Apollo 1v3 with base kit in HR where everyone. Also if you have a duo it is a lot easier for wizard to manage the space. But as the most played class in the game being barb and barber where they can rush you down with max move speed (with a weapon out) and deal 80% of your health in 1 hit while having a base 100 magic resist is rough for any player in a mid kit. Also are you taking in to account how rough it is to find decent wizard gear without trading? Because trading in this game is aids.

silver grove
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Also, rank means nothing.... It's literally how much loot you've extracted, I feel the whole ranking system in this game needs to be removed as it gives ALL players a false sense of skill

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Yessir, I mained Wizard for the last 2 seasons, I'm aware 🙂

cursive canyon
silver grove
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I dont think anything should be worth anything, Dnd was amazing with zero ranking system. A KD tracker, and a top 100 for kills/gold would be cool, but why do we need ranks? it's just stupid

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Just inflates this shitty toxic ecosystem of flexing a meaningless colour in a funny game we all want to love

cursive canyon
silver grove
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Could be done with the quest system

cursive canyon
silver grove
cursive canyon
silver grove
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I mean I'm sure they'll polish it eventually, the whole ranking system just feels like it creates too many fortnite nerds grinding AP to flex in general chat saying they're better than you because they've extracted more loot 🤣

cursive canyon
silver grove
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I'm 99.9% sure they're trying.

teal cloud
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I think the rank system with tweaks will be nice. Its a system that distributes rewards, but maybe instead of exclusives it could be early access to items that will appear in the shop down the line. Youd get the item free still obv if you unlock it.

cursive canyon
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Either way they better make some good stuff happen because I've seen a lot of DaD streamers enjoying the QA test of Dungeonborne

dense sentinel
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youre not going to convince barbs to stop using rage by buffing other skills and nerfing the vigor on it. you need to remove the movespeed buff from rage entirely, and barb will actually feel moderately balanced. we dont care barbs have tons of hp, we care that they have that, big damage, AND are faster than almost every other class in the game. im cool with tanky damage barb, but this supersonic barb is not okay.

ocean nest
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I think map rotation feature should be called off people enjoy playing different maps and thats ok!

strong grotto
strong grotto
lapis tangle
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Add more Wizard spells and perks. Wizard has the fewest perks and spells despite being the main spellcaster. Also, base damage is in a bad place and Lightning Strike hitbox is still unreliable. Make Meditation a skill that passively activates when you sit down. Allow the ability to look around during meditation and remove/retool the sound dampening effect.

small furnace
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Please add compensation time if we're missing out on a day of AP farming for demigod, thanks.

lethal stag
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please add fall damage

vale pivot
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give icemap more time

vale pivot
royal ledge
vale pivot
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normal champ spawning on hr ice kekw

royal ledge
# vale pivot anyone can

for sure, just saying it's counter intuitive.

Unrelated question for fighters:
Does the combo perk work on the 2 hit riposte from longsword? and is it any good?

knotty flare
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With this update, the Japanese translation has been significantly "deteriorated". I would like it to be reverted back.

next tangle
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decrease the total lifesteal from the demon form and increase its melee dmg cause its literally just a punch

glacial sphinx
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I think saint nicholas shouldnt be removed until the end of the season. It's only a few weeks anyway and people are mid way into their quest.

lethal stag
# vale pivot hell no why the hell would anyone want this

because this is not apex legends, man in iron armor can't jump from 20m tower and get 0 damage, this is dumb. fall damage might help balancing some things in pvp. for example it's harder to run away if you have fall damage in game

vale pivot
rugged falcon
meager jasper
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So... these frost giant guys with the shields are essentially axe skeletons, only with an infinite amount of health, and you can't attack their front. What?

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Ironmace I'm noticing a problem with you, you're the kind of devs who are so good at your own game's minutia that you actually think this is balanced for a majority of players. It's not.

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There is a spawn here that instantly aggros 2 archers and there's a skeleton axeman right outside as well.

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This patch ain't it. At all. This map isn't functional it's so deadly, and it's hyper-stacked with monsters who are too difficult or too dense in number. And the removal of portals was a deeply foolish plan.

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Just in case people haven't seen it, as well. Demon Form, one of the other promised features of this patch, is completely valueless. Nobody wants to use a form with no magic or physical damage bonus, the same damage as fists or a darkbolt cast without any tome.

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The frost giant berserkers are nearly just as a bad. Just a slightly nerfed version of the demon berserker - In other words, just as many unavoidable attacks even for the non-elite versions
You do realize, IM that everyone just tries to cheese these guys right? That's not fun game design.

jagged flicker
void panther
lethal stag
vale pivot
lethal stag
# vale pivot yeah no lol

why not? you can do mechanics around fall damage and it's reduction or negation. game is about chasing and running pretty much 🙂

vale pivot
tepid roost
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i love putting the new content behind a time gate

unreal spindle
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I DONT AGGREE WITH THE ICE MAP BEING ON ROTATION.

ruby sonnet
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The ice skeleton stab should not go through shields

granite plinth
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make rogue start on -20% phys power bonus at least if its squishiest class in game and fix that new map ffs

swift wharf
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  1. Barb should be able to use Longsword, but held upside down by the blade in a mordhau grip
  2. Fighter should have a Longsword Mastery perk/skill that allows him to switch the side the parry goes on, to be more adaptive against different weapons
void panther
limber elbow
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if you play ruin map you dont want to equip potion and hide in the dark so you turn on Auto fill emty slot and that potion can't use for some reason after update

meager jasper
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Ice map is terrible, it's way overtweaked in both numbers, and as far as I can tell the ice giants are not a creature that should be just walking around there - they're way deadlier than skelly champs

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lol wut? I just found the ice skeleton archers. They melee you rapidly if you try to approach them.

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IM, what the actual fuck? How is a melee character even supposed to deal with that without the ability to block?

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This map is completely unfun in every conceivable way, what the hell.

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At first I thought it was just tweaked to be as dangerous as the inferno, but no, it's actually way deadlier than that.

limber elbow
warm summit
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Personally, I think the nerf and buffs to Barb did nothing to fix the current issues. Barbs are still the class with the most HP even if you take away 5 vigor and now Barb can cripple your move speed and your damage with roar. Ironmace, Barb needs only nerfs, not buffs.

meager jasper
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The problem with barb is that there is no counter to them, not even a situational counter. They are able to keep pace with rangers, which means they can just w to win. They either need to have their speed nerfed overall or they need to have their stupid anti-magic perk removed so warlocks and wizards can be their killers instead

lethal stag
normal robin
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The zone closes too fast and it's destroying the game with the current amount of pve

midnight field
covert shadow
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I think there should be a mechanic to add some more personalization to spell casters and melee/physical damage builds. Via Training manuals, and grimoires. these books which you can equip depending on your stats will give you extra passive buffs, or even abilities if done right this could add avenues of end game gearing that are always going to be different and build an intricutely connected system for regearing that takes multiple runs to accomplish a full book setup

ripe turtle
stable sentinel
jolly pond
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My suggestion would be, when rolling out new skills / perks you want to make them slightly OP, so as many people as possible try them out so you get more feedback info.

Warlock new skill demon form is currently a subpar skill as agreed upon in the warlock channel.
Same deal with demon armor, this is the third iteration that is straight up bad ( the casting speed is 2 big of a hit).

So the question arises, if these perks/skills are straightup bad, the majority of playerbase wont bother to use them and the devs have very little info to work with, or am i wrong.

this is the usual practice when releasing new Heroes in MOBA type games.

hybrid jolt
glossy rain
jolly pond
glossy rain
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Play testers and bug testers are a little different imo. And they wil have the budget for bug testing now surely

jolly pond
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yes, hopefully, my point was that if the new skills would be slightly stronger, more people would use them, you get more feedback about is how broken / ballanced it is.

for example if the demon armor perk just didnt have any downsides. would that really be that bad ? Imho the movementspeed is a high enough penalty of wearing plate armour and expending a perk slot.

small furnace
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I repeat my previous suggestion.

Can we PLEASE get some kind of compensation for the time lost for people trying to grind out AP for the new locked cosmetics you just announced? This is far too long to be waiting for a rollback for.

jolly pond
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more people would be using it, you would have more info about how good/bad it can be. Now a couple of streamers and players tried it out, deemd it ultra bad and thats prettymuch it for the perk untill the next change.

limber dock
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as if they would

fathom bolt
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Some shards perhaps lol

plain inlet
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In my opinion, there are too many mobs on the new ice map, but overall I enjoy it the most right now. I guess it's because it's new.

next wolf
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1- Short Rotation duration with 3 maps is an hour imagine with 4 or 5.
2- ice caves is currently hard AF for the solo rotation its a map for TRIOS!
3- let goblin caves rest, it sucks.

jolly terrace
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Stop the map rotation and let us decide which map we want to play.
Nerf speed movement on Barb

lapis tangle
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This is a good idea. I was suprised we didn't have this after I came back since playtest 1 and 2

forest arch
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ADD COLOR BORDERS ON ALL ITEMS TO SHOW RARITY, blue items= blue border, puprle= purple border. This helps players with item identification when opening chests, inventory or other players bodies. Helps when you have 7 seconds left b4 timer reaches 0.

small furnace
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Why the hell are we rolling back to before the patch took place even? That doesn't make any sense the patch is the thing that introduced the issues.

bitter mist
crude kite
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all the progress fcked up

small furnace
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How the hell am I supposed to get demigod when you do this shit and you don't add any more days to the timer. That's 3 days of progress gone.

median mural
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@dawn grotto Does this also rollback quests? what about quests that we completed and no longer can, like gingerbread?

crude kite
median mural
crude kite
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items/rank/quests

small furnace
median mural
crude kite
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everythink fcked when update came up

median mural
small furnace
median mural
median mural
crude kite
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then they should compensate the loss

small furnace
crude kite
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i understand that we are testers but wtf

small furnace
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Plus you have the incredibly annoying ice map shoved into the rotation which you can't use portals to get AP on and is harder to escape.

median mural
small furnace
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Besides that 'killing a player' is always a risk. It's not something that's so easy to say. You risk losing all your AP and the entrance fee every time you try.

median mural
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Then get better? Demigod isn't for everyone. This is a hardcore adventure and if you want the goodies then learn to play better and get good. People need to realize that not everything should be handouts. That's what makes it special.

small furnace
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All I am saying is give us some damn time compensation. Demigod is a grind, it's not a difficult thing it's just a time gate, and they took away 3 days from us.

median mural
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And I'm saying it's not a time gate. You can get 1k+ AP a game if you're good and have the know how. That's roughly 20 hours of played time including dying every so often

small furnace
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You can get 1k AP per RUINS game, that's 33% of the time now buddy. With the ice map in rotation we get 33% less time on ruins.

median mural
wicked grove
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FIGHTER needs like a Lunge ability and more like Disarm, jump attack, ect.. worlock so powerful now there is no point playing fighter at all

small furnace
median mural
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Ruins full run to inferno without killing big bad boss nets you like 1800 ap then minus your entry fee

small furnace
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I agree with that, but ruins is so limited now because ice map is in rotation.

median mural
small furnace
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Just give us time compensation for the time you stole. I don't care about your opinion on 'get good' they took 3 days away from us.

median mural
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So a whole 2 months (or longer?) isn't long enough already?

small furnace
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I wasn't grinding for it because I had no idea there were fomo cosmetics tied to it. They didn't even hint at it until recently.

median mural
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bruh, What do you think the pathfinder skelly skin was?

small furnace
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I thought higher ranks would be treasures, like was shown in the example. I grinded to pathfinder and stopped there.

median mural
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What did you think they would give for higher ranks? Everyone knew it would be cosmetics or maybe a gold chest

small furnace
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Yeah I thought it was going ot be a gold chest and I didn't care about a headstart on the next season. I just wanted the cosmetics, that was all I wanted.

median mural
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Then that isn't the devs problem.

mystic yoke
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They should make GC a three layer map as well. Goblin Camp, Goblin Caves, Goblin Dungeons

small furnace
median mural
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No, you have 3 weeks still. That's PLENTY of time. The only time I would agree with this is if it was like less than 5 days remaining and we just lost 2 of them. 2 days out of 24 is no reason to extend

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The fact that YOU put off ranking isn't everyone else's fault. This wipe has gone on long enough already

small furnace
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I'm not the only person who feels this way. Most people were not bothering with the ranked grind because of how boring and unappealing it was to play high level ranked until it was announced there were fomo cosmetics. You can sit in your high chair all you want but it's just that.

mystic yoke
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There are still 21 days left in the season, plenty of time to achieve the rank your skill should be settling you at. If it reaches the end of the season and you are inches away from your next level up and another 2 days would have helped you get there, maybe you'd have a point and should send them a ticket. But I have a feeling that won't be the case

small furnace
mystic yoke
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I want the special rest animation too, yeah anguish we'll get there though no biggie

halcyon trench
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You guys need test servers for your development process. Every update put out gets hotfixed the next day. It’s clear to me that internal testing capabilities are lacking or you guys are under too much self imposed pressure to get content out. Either way, putting new content on test servers would give you an avenue to both give players new content and have it be properly tested so that you don’t have to rollback data on the main servers.

small furnace
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Doesn't have to be an immense amount of testing, just pop it on there for a week before. Would save a ton of trouble.

median mural
small furnace
halcyon trench
sudden trail
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Y'all wanna make a hotkey to see the full map? I think that would be cool. Help with navigation also. Or make the map discoverable like fog of war where you get to unlock the parts of the map you've been to in previous games or something? Idk I think it'd be helpful and add value to the game. 🙂

median mural
sudden trail
median mural
sudden trail
limber orchid
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nerf barb

wide torrent
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I was just wondering why there's not a class restriction for teams? at least for HR? like triple ranger or rogue or anything shouldn't really be a thing, would make more sense that they limit it to 1 per team, so that way there's not triple ranger just deleting you with there bows from across the map

median mural
wide torrent
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even then my point is that three classes that are the same shouldnt be a thing, even in your example it should be one wizard, one warlock, and one other class because the other two are taken

median mural
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imo, it should be limited to no similar class in groups and the queue should be solos, trios and quintuples.

frosty trout
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nerf wizard

median mural
frosty trout
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nerf wizard

serene grove
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they should recharge spells faster,or just have cooldown

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wizard spend their time sitting , thas sad

median mural
serene grove
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then that would be a mandatory perk

median mural
serene grove
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i would buff shrines cause it benefits a lot for melee classes, so if shrines give a spell recharge buff that would be good cause meelee classes wouldnt mind if they have it

serene grove
median mural
serene grove
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solos yes , trios no

lapis tangle
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Wizard really needs a nerf. As it stands right now they have far too many options in terms of spell diversity. Scaling back and giving some of their options to the other classes is far more needed, for example Warlock could use a second fireball option and buffs are far more of Cleric's realm, so maybe give them haste. Wiz also simply moves too quickly and takes too much damage. Barbarian who only has melee options has far too much trouble catching up and dealing with the wizard who can haste !!5!! times and needing two shots to put them down seems like too much. Lastly, them having the ability to meditate is far too powerful, and allows them to recover their spells way quicker than the cleric. They should have be forced to sit like everyone else to replenish spell slots. Thanks for coming to my ted talk.

median mural
granite dagger
serene grove
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they should lower the spell spam

loud grove
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wizards are nerfed into the dirt right now and this dude is complaining. He never had to face them in his prime when 2-3 zaps from a base wizard could kill most classes lo

median mural
fast hill
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Add in centipede milking minigame for rogues to get more potent poisons

loud grove
median mural
median mural
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Cat, Erudite, Dwarf and Avian are my hopefuls

alpine zealot
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Some form of balance that isn't over buffing an already overpowered class is my hopeful

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Oh OH! Or maybe hiring people who can actually code and not destroying the game with ever hot"fix" or update they drop would be nice too....

mental gust
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A tab that has the quest materials needed would be cool

alpine zealot
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Not crashing could be a dope race benefit too

mental gust
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you not yapping and crying is my hope

mental gust
serene grove
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yoo , silver weapons should kill demon form faster

median mural
alpine zealot
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@mental gust Man! That is a good one! Creative too....Not for nothing, *It's 30 seconds. And it's hard to do something continuously if your taking minute and a half breaks..... Feel free to try again there champ

small furnace
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Whew thank god, they updated it from 1 AM to 5:30 PM. My rank is saved... now I just gotta grind hard af to make up for lost time.

small furnace
# median mural It shouldn't be on rotation until it's tested for about a month

100% should not, esp since it makes ranking near the end of season grind a lot harder people having to re-learn a new map. Not to mention the bugs and mob density problems it has.

No problems with it being in HR but it should 100% be it's own separate thing. It also lets people who want to have fun on the new map... consistently play the new map as opposed to waiting to play it once every 90 minutes.

mental gust
candid solar
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Finished troll pelt quest and rollback kept my quest completed but took the item away.

void panther
mental gust
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that a cool idea, but idk about wizards getting resurrection or anything. certain spells would be cool and stuff tho

meager jasper
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The new map needs a major extract overhaul, to be honest. If you're in a group there, the lack of available extracts coupled with the extreme enemy density is a death sentence in some spawns. Even if that wasn't the case, being forced to split up in duos and trios doesn't make sense and the statics are too spread out to secure multiple like you'd normally do with portals. Either there needs to be more extracts or they need to be all multi-use; And in general the density needs toned down too.

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I'm noticing goblin cave stability seems to be even worse for some reason, in addition.

wheat mirage
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Can the ships not take multiple?

I know the lift extract is any amount of people

loud shore
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ice caves needs less mobs and or a longer timer, also nerf savage roar please 🙏🏻

queen vector
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Playing normals warlock, swapped my falchion for a green I found in match. Trying to play again, no common/junk falchions for the last 2 vendor resets. You guys are royally messing up with the vendors having common/junk gear on random rotation. This should be a no-brainer.

wheat mirage
wheat mirage
fossil parcel
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can we please make traders not sell us shit for other classes that we literally cannot use. what is the point if everyone merchants are different anyways just make barbs merchants sell only barb usable gear, and wizards merchants only sell wizard useable gear, etc etc

meager jasper
fossil parcel
wheat mirage
sudden kernel
meager jasper
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Someone already complaining about this relatively mediocre ability. No. The only reason that would be acceptable is if it didn't hurt you.

sudden kernel
# meager jasper lol wut?

I just fele like it is way too op, the stats increases are really good too, i just straight up killed 2 geared fighters without having to heal, no shards, with no gear except for a green shadow mask in HR

meager jasper
sudden kernel
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i've watche a couple of high geared warlock, they get over 220 hp and +300MS, straight up 3 tapping geared ranger without having to worry about their teammates attacking them

meager jasper
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You've watched them, now? Okay. Sounds like you're just making shit up there bud because you died to a warlock with demon form at some point.

sudden kernel
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didnt expect for this to happen so havent recorded aha but will for sure now

The fighters are my kills,

the geared warlock I've just watched it on jaygriffyuh stream so yeah

meager jasper
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Again, someone judging a class by what someone really good does doesn't really mean anything to anyone.

sudden kernel
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when you can push a whole team including 2 pdr fighters in a close room 1v3 and make it out alive, it just doesnt seem alright to me but i guess people don't mind

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i guess you're one of those people who just can't accept some facts without living it yourself, it's alright, i was just making a suggestion, and even if the class wasn't that op, i just feel that lore speaking, a warlock takes time to make a contract with the demon and it leaves a burden on their body, would make more sense to not make it a spammable spell overall, (or reduce its effects)

whole lion
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Ice caves needs to be removed from the map rotation, it sucks having to wait 30 minutes until it rotates out

sudden kernel
whole lion
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It just doesn't make sense to have an unfinished map in the rotation. They explicitly said in the dev interview that it would have its own queue for testing

sudden kernel
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should have made it test servers only, but they seem to be lacking time (or funds?)

granite plinth
flint yarrow
kindred acorn
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I think we need a named instrument that can play all the songs.

alpine zealot
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@mental gust Nah, I'm good.

tropic agate
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delect ranger trap .

shadow whale
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maybe add portals to the new map cause you know 4 statics and 4 or 5 teams doesnt really add up not a good design i can see why your games dying with ideas like this being pushed out.

bitter cliff
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can i get a luffy skin for the straw hat thank you

mental gust
spring spoke
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Having download/update progress on the launcher would be nice.

timid palm
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fix your game I join a game and it dc'd me as soon as I started fighting a mob just lost my good gear really pissed wondering if you'll fix it so that when you get dc'd that it just kicks you from the game and lets you keep your stuff unless it's duo's or trio's

short aspen
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game opened in another client crash

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anyone having this issue?

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asking for a buddie of mine

lime kelp
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Please remove rotating maps

somber wind
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Nerf the Club lol, It's just the War Maul but faster

drowsy grotto
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Nerf barb strength

soft nebula
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for a new named item, why not the spear, but instead it becomes the trident of atlantis, when hitting an opponent with the spear, reduces their phys dmg by 7.5% for 3 seconds, and resets on every new stack for up to 5 stacks, being 37.5% total. another way it could work could be it gives you a waterfoot buff, after a hit, grants 12% move speed bonus for 4 seconds.

alpine zealot
marsh grove
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I think the classes that are not spell casters should get a lil more options.
It's hard to say what without changing too much.
But, for example maybe fighter gets a passive or something.
Just imo 2 skills vs. 5/6/10 seems a bit odd.
I dont think the prospect of Wkeying outweights the flexibility that casters get.

Bottom Line: I think classes with only 2 skills makes the game a bit less fun compare to classes with more skills.
Not sure, how you balance this as I am just pointing it out

amber fiber
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They should probably buff warlock's demon form....it pretty much feels like a downgrade as it just hurts me and I don't deal any extra damage with claw swipes

real trellis
# marsh grove I think the classes that are not spell casters should get a lil more options. I...

Spells compensate for casters' general lack of melee ability when compared to fighter or barb. Wizard for instance is awful for pve clear unless they bring magic missile. Fighters and barbs get access to weapons that clear pve quite easily. Clerics are very limited when it comes to weapons and warlocks are in a very weird spot where they have some decent melee but don't want to be in melee because they're tissue paper without demon armor.

I do think that Rogue should get a 'skill wheel' type ability where they can slot lockpicking, trap disarming, smoke bombs, and caltrops

marsh grove
real trellis
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fair

strong grotto
arctic fable
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Honestly add like 3 more minutes to Frozen caves ther'es barely enough time ot fight oyur way toextract

silver grove
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Add portals to the new map.. There's nothing fun about having to leave your duo partner to get ganked by a duo team waiting at an exit 🥲

silver grove
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It's such a cool map but there's zero reason to play it as there's such a high chance of death

strong grotto
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Yeah, agreed. The few times I've played it - all resulted in death from frost.

robust bison
robust bison
arctic fable
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it's either safely fight your way out or loot good stuff and never leave lol

wheat mirage
strong grotto
robust bison
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like i don't mind that DF can have one unique spell to use, but make a new spell for it, not a dark bolt that you can spam

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DB already deals a great amount of dmg at base, having +10 will amp it so much and even more with the rest of the gear

wheat mirage
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Just to ask it here, instead of just in the suggestions board, what would people actually think to all portals allowing allies to follow you through for ~5 seconds?

e.g. You open a portal, and when you step through, it turns Green to your allies, indicating they can enter, and Yellow to enemies, indicating they can no longer enter.
Then after 5 seconds it disappears.

Same for static exits. The Torches glow Green/Yellow after the first person enters, allowing allies to follow them in for ~5 seconds.

This allows your group to escape together, but specifially does not allow teamers (of different groups) to escape together. It even allows you to reduce the amount of total exits in duos and trios

strong grotto
# wheat mirage Just to ask it here, instead of just in the suggestions board, what would people...

Here's the problem with that. IMace doesn't want for game to be "friendly". They want and NEED it to be a bloodbath. Their recent changes to AP system shows that clearly. Why? Simple. The more you have to fight > the more you lose your equipment > the more you need to play and earn your gear back. They don't want this game to be even remotly friendly in players interacting with each other. Thus, you want for your team to extract? FIND THREE PORTALS, honey!

That being said, most of people in the game are also straight maniacs, who don't even realize, that you DON'T HAVE, NOR NEED, TO FIGHT untill the 2 last circles, lol! Most players will just W key on you, swinging whatever pointy or otherwise sharp object is in their character's hands. So I doubt it will be even concidered as an option.

There is one more thing... Given recent developments and the new game coming out, on Steam (!!!), the IMace will need to really put their backs behind some GOOD changes and patches or... Well, no king rules forever. Perhaps we will finaly see some nerfs and buffs where it actually counts and the game will be more interesting to play and easier to bounce back after lost after all...

wheat mirage
digital widget
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@dawn grotto i'd love to see a scepter ingame, for casters, possibly for cleric, that can be a 1h weapon used to hit with and cast 🙂