q-and-a

[visual dagger]

no

but you can try to buy them from other ppl in trade

[sacred canopy]

well, that's hella annoying

[visual dagger]

yeah

[woeful kiln]

are the golems perma invincible on ghost king fight?

[glad pewter]

I believe they changed the way that boss fight works slightly.

no more cheese as you could say

[woeful kiln]

they made it where you can't kill golems outside the fights I got that. But just tried it and we couldn't even kill it while in the room

just sat there swinging at it and couldn't kill it lol

[glad pewter]

7. Fixed a bug where the lava monsters in the ghost king's room were not invincible and could be cheesed.

[whole sluice]

Pretty sure the intended mechanic is they aren't supposed to be killed at all while shielded

[vernal current]

is there a diffrence between the white and blue spell books?

[glad pewter]

cast speed?

[whole sluice]

Nope

No differences at this time

[old pendant]

can somebody maybe write a message abt the spellbooks and pin it

its probably the most asked question

[whole sluice]

Not a Warden so I can't pin things and there are too many things I would want to pin that it wouldn't be worthwhile at this point

[woven wing]

What do each attributes do for us?

[burnt badger]

What does knowladge do ?

[whole sluice]

1 Agi Move Speed Action Speed Equip Speed Interaction Speed (Regular)

1 Knowledge Spell Casting Speed Interaction Speed (Magical)

1 Resourcefulness Interaction Speed (Regular)

1 Strength Health Physical Power Bonus Physical Power

1 Will Magic Resist Resist Rating Magic Power Bonus Magic Power Buff and Curse Durations

Now, the increase values for each depend on threshold sections so 1 point of Agi will give more benefit in certain ranges than others. But those are the stats everything effects

Oh, will also effects Buff/Curse durations

Lemme add that

[runic whale]

what does resourcefulness stat do?

[whole sluice]

Literally read 4 lines up 😄

[cursive flint]

@whole sluice when does your paycheck come in dang man haha they should give you an award

[whole sluice]

😄

I wish

That being said I just like helping out communities

[tame violet]

do we have actual damage numbers for the "one shot" Lich ability?

[whole sluice]

Personally feel that the more educated/informed the player base is the better the games, which makes for a better gaming experience, which helps lift up the community etc...

[whole sluice]

No, bossing isn't in our testing this weekend

[cursive flint]

I think content and mechanics are fun to have under wraps but obtuse number / stat meta gaming feel free to deduce and spread the knowledge

[tame violet]

big sad

[whole sluice]

Sorry, too much to test, too little time, too few clones of me 😄

[stuck sorrel]

Are there plans to add any kind of healing-over-time? Perhaps to higher tier armors?

[candid imp]

When is axe officer 69 (Dark and Darker edition) coming out

[tame violet]

hahah np, just wondering what exactly do I need to solo it

[whole sluice]

+phys healing helps with bandages/healing potions. I think it's in a decent spot atm

[stuck sorrel]

Let me rephrase, healing over time without the use of healing agents

[whole sluice]

I don't think it's supposed to be soloable from what the mechanics indicate

Could be wrong, but I think it's balanced around others

[stuck sorrel]

Like. .5hp per second or something minor but There

[mighty dome]

hi maddcowqq, can i ask what is the point of using two daggers as a rogue? i hold both left click adn right click down but after swinging once with secondary weapon my character only swings primary the rest of the time buttons are held down

[tame violet]

some said its possible, prob fake news but I want to give it a shot while i can

[whole sluice]

I know, but that would negate the need for a lot of things and make clerics less useful. Would also completely change hit and run classes

[whole sluice]

Exploits don't count imo 😄

[stuck sorrel]

valid point

ty for your answer

[tame violet]

yep

[whole sluice]

The daggers have different attack animations and damage. The Castillion dagger, for instance, has 2 wide swipes which suck for hallways/corners, but the 3rd hit has a massive damage increased with it's head stab

So dual wielding allows you to chamber combos, animation cancel and can be stat sticks

[whole sluice]

My pleasure 🙂

[peak bluff]

What mechanic were you curious about?

[mighty dome]

i see so as long as they arent purple with magic stats/rolls they arent that useful?

[whole sluice]

Not mechanic, just raw damage from abilities

[cursive flint]

I’ve got a sick barbarian 1v2 that I barely dodged the boom, went to hell, won a 1v1, and escaped hell after 3 skeletal archers with 6 hp remaining.

All in default barb loadout lol.

[whole sluice]

Well they are if you want that specific attack animation/combo

[mighty dome]

ok understood

[tame violet]

the one that marks u and deals a ton of damage, orbs are ez

[mighty dome]

im really liking the game but playing from asia where people tend to just play mainstream games (even my friends) i gotta say solo is rough

i tried finding people to play here but it was quite bad

[whole sluice]

Fair. Solo is doable, but definitely not balanced around. Some classes are way better at it than others to

[peak bluff]

They SEEM to be %health based, I think blue does 50% of your max hp and purple does 100% total hp but others can soak it with you.

[mighty dome]

im happy with solo, i also play solo in tarkov, but i feel the death swarm is what ruins solo, a timer would suffice, similar to tarkov

[tame violet]

so gotta kill it before it kills me huh? 🤣

[mighty dome]

because the circle forces pvp encounters and forces solo players into 3-mans

[peak bluff]

Are you attempting to solo it?

[mighty dome]

i feel like a timer is all this game needs, no need for a circle

find a portal and escape b4 timer ends or die

maybe this is the wrong channel to talk about this, my bad

[woeful kiln]

I mean the game is built to be played in groups

[velvet sphinx]

Nah circle is good, it stops rats from hiding all round and just picking up scraps and escaping

[tame violet]

I mean ye I would like to

[whole sluice]

Please carry discussions to the discussion channels 😄

[stray cairn]

It’s fine to play as a solo as well

[whole sluice]

Want to keep this open for Q&As 😄

Thank you everyone ❤️

[candid imp]

Hell yeah brother

[peak bluff]

I don't think it's possible unless you kill it before those mechanics come out. Unless the damage values changed based on the amount of people in the room, but I doubt that. You would have an easier time attempting to kill the other boss. The only big issue on that one is the lockdown, but it should be possible if you have a pot running during it.

[upper cypress]

as wizard if i dont got the memorize skill how do i do my skils/

[whole sluice]

You don't, need it to cast spells

[upper cypress]

so if i want 0.1 second spell cast i get rid of meitation?

[whole sluice]

Yup

[daring spindle]

Think campfire can restore spells if you take that option

[whole sluice]

Yup, can use campfires instead of meditate if you want as well

[upper cypress]

so prob just not worth using then

[whole sluice]

Depends, builds have variety for a reason

If you want to do as much DPS as possible don't take meditation. But then you have limited spells without campfires.

Both have pros/cons

[upper cypress]

makes sense

thank u

[tiny geode]

I have a question about exploits, do I report them under #989065208087576596 ?

[whole sluice]

Yes

[tiny geode]

Ok, thank you.

[pale snow]

I wield items which increase spells limit, but it didnt add any, do I need to start game with those items so they work properly?

[whole sluice]

Spell capacity is not functioning in this build

[pale snow]

😢

[wintry path]

What is yellow item quality considered? Is it between purple and orange?

[whole sluice]

After Orange, uniques

[wintry path]

Oh

Yellow barb chest; sells for 24g only 😛

[lavish elk]

The ale merchant has the tiers lined out.

[wintry path]

Oh, good tip

[zenith hawk]

That's why you trade

Real people will pay much more

[bright bane]

May not be the best place to ask, but is there a roadmap of all the mechanics and features they plan on adding to the game over the next year? (Feel free to redirect me MadCoww and delete this message)

[calm axle]

How do you type in color in the trade chat?

[whole sluice]

Unfortunately not. It's still REALLY early in development so they are focused mostly on core mechanics for now. I do know they have like 10 years worth of stuff to put in, but no specific order. I 'think' their next main priorities are Floor 1, new class(es) {Bard for sure is the next one}, adding more weapons/armors, fixing parry etc....

[whole sluice]

Shift click

[calm axle]

Thank you 🙂

[bright bane]

Thanks boss 👌

[whole sluice]

My pleasure 🙂

[vernal dawn]

Where is the best place to suggest changes or additions?

[whole sluice]

#feedback-hidden-archive

[eternal walrus]

Are all spells arcane or which ones are categorized as such?

[whole sluice]

I believe all spells except fireball are arcane

However, I have not extensively tested spells this playtest

[eternal walrus]

Ty

[harsh wharf]

Is Stealth skill bugged? I keep coming out of hide when I try to move or almost immediately after stealthing.

[wintry path]

Moving while Hide is active will break the ability, unless you also have Stealth. But Stealth will only function for walking or crouching

I have no problem with Stealth

[harsh wharf]

Mine hasn't worked at all this wipe. Maybe once or twice. I've started using Picklocks in place of it.

At first, I thought it was something to do with lighting messing it up. Been testing it in darkness now and same thing.

Also... archers, bats, etc. still track and hit me when I am hidden.

[daring spindle]

Archers have a track

[harsh wharf]

Am not bitching. Just asking. This game is amazing!

[wintry path]

You do understand that Stealth does nothing if you don't also run the Hide ability, right?

[harsh wharf]

...yes, Foxtou.

[daring spindle]

And the invisibility doesn't stop agro

[wintry path]

Okay

[harsh wharf]

I have leveled a Rogue to 20 twice now. It worked fine in last wipe.

[wintry path]

Apologies if I came off as condescending

[versed elbow]

invis potions feller

[harsh wharf]

I'm saying the mechanic for Stealth isn't working for me. I step, when hidden, and it breaks Hide.

[inner flax]

Just double checking, do you only get the stat buff from and item when it’s in your hands ?

Weapon, that is

[harsh wharf]

@inner flax Seems like it. I noticed unwielded weapons aren't giving me boosts.

[daring spindle]

Not sure on that, my buddy is rogue and doesnt have that issue

[versed elbow]

i dont either

[harsh wharf]

@daring spindle I didn't have it last wipe. This wipe is different.

I'd be happy to show you.

[brisk seal]

So if I am a rogue with a 30 damage weapon, I hit someone out of stealth in the back of the head with a weakpoint attack up and the ambusher and backstab perks, how much damage am I doing?

[inner flax]

Things I’ve seen break stealth skill are hitting/getting hit/bumping into any player inc teammates/attacking

[daring spindle]

I get what you mean, just dont know how to help sorry man

[austere cape]

anyone got any idea how to do lava monster mechanic in ghost king now that they fixed it? not sure when we are suppose to be able to damage them during fight now

[wintry path]

Also depends on the target you're hitting. They have armour

[harsh wharf]

A lot. That's enough to one or two shot people, @brisk seal .

@brisk seal I drop lower HP/AC characters with those kinds of headshots. Ambush + Weakpoint + Backstab + Hide + Stealth (even if Stealth is not working correctly for me).

[visual dagger]

yes only when u wield it

[wintry path]

@brisk seal You can try on one of the target dummies in the pre-game area, if you want to see a number

[pine marten]

If the queues arnt instant (which is a good problem to have imo)

[whole sluice]

Stealth/invis also breaks from damage

[brisk seal]

Just curious what the formula for damage is

[whole sluice]

This includes dots, swarm etc

[whole sluice]

Base damage + all weapon modifiers (+ Weapon Damage, + Phys Damage, +True Phys Damage), multiplied by your phys. power %, multiplied by any skills, then multiplied by body location. Head 150%, torso/chest 100%, limbs 50%

Pretty sure this is how it is

Oh, lemme edit really quick

[junior furnace]

Hey Madd do you have any idea if +True Magical Damage on gear apply to all attacks including non magical attacks?

[fathom lava]

do you cast faster with a spell book than a staff as wizard?

[whole sluice]

The only weapon that benefits from + magical is crystal sword

[whole sluice]

The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.

[fathom lava]

ty

[eternal walrus]

Honestly if you want to be a battle mage you might as well go for the book 😂 You will NOT survive any melee encounter

[terse hazel]

Are you using the crouch or walk buttons? You can't move while standing unless you are using the walk button

[whole sluice]

Disagree, crystal sword is amazing

[burnt badger]

everyhting about the crystal sword is bad tbh

[whole sluice]

Strongly disagree. It benefits from both phys and magic power and magic resists are super low. Easily can hit for 80-90 per hit without anything major. Throw haste + invis and you don't even need MM or Fireball

After all the totals I believe

[pine marten]

Crystal sword hits through armor, basically ignores most of your resists

[eternal walrus]

You mean for higher lvl swords or just the basic one but in any case yeah with a bit of work you can make it good I guess.

[burnt badger]

are we talking about the common c sword or some type of legendary?

[whole sluice]

Blues and Purples, don't even need legendary to hit those

[neon jacinth]

On the target dummy the mace seems to do more damage to the chest than the head, can anyone confirm if that's right?

[whole sluice]

Magic Power scales almost double Str/Phys

[whole sluice]

Are you hitting with the shaft or the head?

Make sure you aren't hitting limbs either

[eternal walrus]

Ohhh that I didn't know

[neon jacinth]

I had no idea I could hit with the shaft, ty for that

[burnt badger]

btw i had a question about the traders, at the start i only had them sell common but now i get offers for blue, is it like evolving with my lvl or is it random ?

[whole sluice]

Comparison for raw Str/Will and phys/magic power

[whole sluice]

Random

[cyan slate]

Hopefully we will have that spreadsheet data sorted out on the wiki soon.

[burnt badger]

will increases magic dmg ?

[whole sluice]

1 Will Magic Resist Resist Rating Magic Power Bonus Magic Power Buff and Curse Durations

[burnt badger]

oh wow

[eternal walrus]

Oh wow

This is a lot, like really

[whole sluice]

Yup

Battle Wiz is totally sleeper OP imo. Haste + Invis solo wiz was 1-2 shotting purple in full legendaries

Cuz there is no magic resist 😄

[eternal walrus]

As long as you don't fumble the switch and cast

I'll try some tonight, I've wasted too much time on rogue/ranger/fighter. Even without knowing the will scaling and magic sword stuff the wizard is far more entertaining

[rugged swan]

im confused what this do?

[pastel gate]

is it just me or does spell switching freezes up the game for a bit

I keep trying to do the invis circle around and Magic missile thing but can't really pull it off

[hardy drum]

Idk if intended but all the Axes in this game have a deceiving animation/hitbox and looks like my swings just go through enemies no matter how close i am.

[whole sluice]

Take to #feedback-hidden-archive That being said, make sure you aren't hitting things with the shaft of your weapon because thats a different calc than the metal head part

[hardy drum]

Even so hitting with the shaft would count as a hit, my weapon looks like it phases through them, but when my teammate spectated me from third person they said im missing when on my screen its a clear hit

[whole sluice]

Seems like latency issues/bug

[eternal walrus]

Read the headings. Scaling stats for Will and Strength

[untold aurora]

how much of a str buff is rage on barbarian

[whole sluice]

Looks like flat 15

[untold aurora]

the wording is wierd tho

it says gratly then 15%

[whole sluice]

15% move

[wheat siren]

do different boot basetypes affect the sound of your footsteps aside from being barefoot / leather / plate?

[whole sluice]

Yes

[lavish elk]

Ye, there's four sounds I think?

[finite aurora]

any data on xp gains?

[lavish elk]

Nothinh concrete I don't think, killing NPCs in bulk, getting to and escaping B3 seem to do a chunk.

[whole sluice]

XP is earned by doing pretty much anything. Killing players, killing AI, opening chests/corpses/portals, escaping, taking a down portal. The largest chunk of xp is going down to the bottom floor followed by escaping.

[cyan slate]

Rage also cuts your defense by 20% flat, not 20% of what you have.

[stray cairn]

Could be internet issues

[untold aurora]

tested str boost from rage and it is a flat 50% str buff and then 15% movespeed

[whole sluice]

Fair, we only tested with base 30

Good to know

[candid imp]

How long does it last

For research purposes (so I know when to re-engage barb)

[sage cobalt]

what does +spell capacity do?

[whole sluice]

Nothing currently

[hardy drum]

So what you’re tryjng to say is only axes have hit detection problems with high ping, cus as i’ve stated no other weapon ever does this im my 50+ hours of gametime

[finite aurora]

is group xp shared or individual (only stuff you do or hit or killing blow)?

[whole sluice]

Individual

[stray cairn]

Put a video in of what your experiencing

[candid imp]

No he's saying take videos of it and put it in #989065208087576596

He's just the helper not the boss haha

[haughty acorn]

does strength affect bow damage?

[whole sluice]

Strength effects every weapon in the game, all weapons have Phys damage currently

[hardy drum]

Its not a bug though, its an animation/ hitbox issue being deceiving to the player and makes axes not worth using over anything else. Nobody else has an issue with axe range being deceivingly short compared to the swing animation?

[candid imp]

That is a bug, if your weapon is clipping through someone you should report it. If you just don't like the range of the weapon take it to #feedback-hidden-archive

[whole sluice]

For the last time, please take this to another channel, this is not the place to discuss or report issues like this

Thank you ❤️ 🙂

[pearl mulch]

what does the crystal ball do for wizard?

[whole sluice]

The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.

[haughty acorn]

does sword/staff damage affect spell damage/speed?

[pearl mulch]

oooh theyre all catalysts

[eternal walrus]

No

[whole sluice]

No. Only Itemized stats effect spells

[shell bramble]

Is there any way to go into the tavern or elsewhere to practice controls without queuing up for a game?

[whole sluice]

Not currently

Would LOVE to get a test area for dummy practice tbh. Dummies with 0, 25, 50, and 75% phys reductions. Some place that hits you to test resistances etc

We need a dungeon dojo 😄

[shell bramble]

It feels like a REALLY useful addition

I definitely spent my first several solo games just trying to get the hang of combat mechanics and dying to skeletons

[rigid iron]

Whats the point of spellbooks ?

[whole sluice]

The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.

[gaunt olive]

• a place to be able to real time edit target dummies, be able to set them to each individual default entity of class, skeleton ones, etc etc.

[snow hedge]

This was a while ago but I have similar problems with the axe, and my latency/ping is never very hig.

[rigid iron]

That's great to know.

How about spellbooks ?

[whole sluice]

Thats included

[shell bramble]

An arena gamemode where you could select one of several pre-set gear loadouts would also be good, either pvp or pve as away of learning to play without progressing in the main game mode

[rigid iron]

So they don't increase casting speed.

[whole sluice]

Spellsbooks are for people who don't want to bonk, but can basically cast anywhere befcause you will rarely hit walls with it

Also slightly better movespeed

[rigid iron]

I see.

[snow hedge]

And crystal balls allow you to wield a dagger

It’s very quick attacking and is a good deterrent for people trying to rush you.

[tame violet]

Which dev will pay for our addiction therapy btw
Thats not general bruh sry

[sturdy whale]

can your MM channel be interrupted by someone hugging you if you use a spellbook instead of a staff? like sometimes if I start the cast late a rogue will reach me and it seems to cancel my cast not because of taking damage or anything but because they got so close the staff does a "hit" sound and cancels

[full belfry]

Do bosses do magic damage? Or physical/both?

Also, are the lava monsters completely immune to damage now, or just until the start of the fight?

[lavish elk]

Honestly, spellbook, crossbow, and fists are what I kike

[whole sluice]

Anything touching your spell animation would cancel it, yes

[whole sluice]

Don't have enough data on bossing. Not a focus of our group yet. That being said, I do believe they are both mainly Magic damage. I believe the 'intended' mechanic is that the lava monsters are supposed to either be invulnerable the entire time, or there is a mechanic to disable it.

[full belfry]

How about the red lock pick hit giving better loot?

[whole sluice]

Nope, just finishes the minigame instantly

[sturdy whale]

ooo that makes sense, same with the trap disarm I suppose

[full belfry]

Figured, thanks!

[whole sluice]

Skull door, bottom middle floor B3

Prally better for discussion channel tbh

[snow hedge]

Yes sir

[whole sluice]

Appreciate you

[full belfry]

One more for you, what about shielding a fireball doing less damage? As in, wizard casts fireball, someone blocks with their shield, impacting said shield

[snow hedge]

I’m pretty sure it does do less damage.

[whole sluice]

Don't have enough test data but it is reduced but not sure by how much

[full belfry]

Felt like that to me too

Oh epic! I was right in that regard then

[whole sluice]

If I had to throw in logic, I would guess that the shield converts it's Armor Value into Magic Resist Value for that one attack

But that probably isn't likely

[full belfry]

Felt like a easy 50% reduction

If not more

[bleak orchid]

Is there any queue algorythm embedded yet? Or is everything absolutely randomized? Any idea about the loot rate aswell? I am sensing that when I start a new player I loot great equipment rather easy...

[whole sluice]

Nope. Queue up first come first serve. Lobby filled on to the next

As for looting, everything is super early and you are on the middle floor, not the planned starting floor

[snow hedge]

For the shield, it definitely reduces the damage as if you hit the shield it takes an additional hit or fireball to Jill someone. I just can’t give you exact numbers.

[solar terrace]

Are shields buggy? Seems like its a random chance if it a hit is blocked or not.

[whole sluice]

Nope. That being said, the player camera is NOT the same as the shield's. The physical weapon has to connect with the physical shield. It just takes getting used to.

For the most part, you are mostly aiming too far 'down' on average

[sturdy whale]

what makes Magic Missile sometimes float around and track targets after a miss? can that be done reliably? I've even somehow shot around corners with it but no idea how

[whole sluice]

Magic Missile has homing properties, but it's kinda buggy now and then

[rigid iron]

Its homing

[sturdy whale]

huh, interesting, ty

confirmation on magic damage affecting spells, like Magic Missile? or not?

[whole sluice]

Yes

Also, magic damage effects each missile

[sturdy whale]

wait is it actually magic damage as listed added to your spells, or is it just some hidden boost?

[whole sluice]

So + 1 is actually +10 overall

At least I think it's 10 missiles

Haven't done Wiz this playtest

[sturdy whale]

yeah it's 10 missiles in this test, hit 20 on my wiz this time and reflexively count the MMs, heh

[whole sluice]

Damage calc is NOT reflected on character sheet

It's why it shows my weapon doing like 31 or something but I can scale it to over 120

[solar terrace]

Thought so too, but I get the shield hit sound>

[whole sluice]

If it's from a 2 hander that means you blocked their arm, not the weapon

Which is not the same

[solar terrace]

And for skelies?

[minor timber]

How much more range does good hearing give the ranger?

[whole sluice]

Might be tooo close and their weapon is hitting your head and your shield is hitting their arm

[whole sluice]

Haven't personally tested it this time around. Last playtest it was hardly any, but I have vulcan hearing so I don't know

[unborn mica]

Is there anyway to go past floor spikes without getting hit

[whole sluice]

Disarm, if you have enough move speed jump crouch over after settting them off with your tip toe and/or throw a torch on them to spring and then juuump over

[unborn mica]

Thanks

[minor timber]

What do the different attributes do and what are their values?

[odd warren]

Im playing with a friend and we found the portal to extract. But he was the only one extracting. Did I do something wrong? The portal dissapeared

[unborn mica]

Only 1 person can go through each blue portal

[whole sluice]

1 Agi Move Speed Action Speed Equip Speed Interaction Speed (Regular)
1 Knowledge Spell Casting Speed Interaction Speed (Magical)
1 Resourcefulness Interaction Speed (Regular)
1 Strength Health Physical Power Bonus Physical Power
1 Will Magic Resist Resist Rating Magic Power Bonus Magic Power Buff and Curse Durations

However, there are scaling thresholds for the stats so 1 point is not always equal

[unborn mica]

You need to find another one for yourself

Same for the red ones also not just blue ones

[odd warren]

........

dumb mechanic

[lavish elk]

Sometimes you'll both the block noise'll happen but the tip of yhe sword or whatever will hit your head.

[steady holly]

nah it's not

just find another one and you'll be fine

... or find the 3portal spawn (which is, literally, 3 portals that spawn together)

[whole sluice]

Please keep this channel clear for just questions and answers. Discussion to the Discussion channels, please and thanks 🙂

[odd warren]

its not that easy to find 1, that i need to find 2 in different positions of the map

[steady holly]

Sorry

[whole sluice]

All good

[minor timber]

ty

[rigid iron]

Crystal sword increases magic damage ? or does it do magic damage when attacking

[fickle sun]

Any Idea what attack power modifies?

[whole sluice]

No, it does magical damage and physical

[whole sluice]

Phys. power effects every weapons damage after modifiers

[fickle sun]

Thank you

[wintry path]

There's no matchmaking values at all in the game right now, right?

[whole sluice]

Correct

[wintry path]

Okay. Thanks

[safe moon]

any plans for solo que mode? highly unlikely to ever escape from let alone win against a 3 man...

[true lily]

You can def do solo and get out. It's why there are solo exits first

[safe moon]

yes im aware

but if i ever run into a 3

its unlikely i live

i have 24 hours i know well that i can solo extract just fine

[whole sluice]

No. But you can find some good info on solo in the discussion channels. This channel is just for Q&As if possible

[safe moon]

alright ty maddcow

[winter bough]

Where would I go to talk about becoming partnered

[whole sluice]

You might be able to ping the Troubadours or Wardens in another channel

They might also have pinned sections in the Troubedour channels

[winter bough]

Like the role?

[whole sluice]

Yup

[winter bough]

I can’t see a Troubadour channel, I’ll give them a ping thank you

[whole sluice]

You don't see them?

If not it might be because I'm a sage

[twilit moat]

So are the lava monsters in the ghost king room now invincible or can they still be killed during the fight?

[winter bough]

I don’t see that I think it’s your power 😱

[whole sluice]

As far as I am aware, the intended mechanic is that they are unkillable for the entirety of the fight, or a mechanic that I don't know of (No testing this playtest on bosses) disables their shields

[whole sluice]

You saw nothing 😄

Oops

[twilit moat]

Thank you!

[winter bough]

😉 sure thing friend imma go get partnered then I definitely didn’t

[unkempt tinsel]

Patch notes also state they fixed a bug the allowed you to kill the lava monsters. So I’m not sure there is a way to kill them.

[gaunt axle]

Is there a move speed breakpoint to clear a floor trap without the stutter step, or is it just timing?

[potent tide]

How much damage does a spell book?

Do?

[whole sluice]

The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.

[whole sluice]

Timing, jump crouch over. Can trigger by tippy toe, or throw torch

[warm furnace]

When is wizard weed coming to the game

[gaunt axle]

ooo jump crouch, ok. I've just been hitting it with the toe, then jumping halfway across after it starts resetting.

Time consuming

ty

[sturdy cosmos]

Is the cleric +5 attribute skill stackable?

[whole sluice]

No, buffs refresh, not stack

[sturdy cosmos]

ty

[warm palm]

will there be more playtests?

[whole sluice]

Most definitely, but none confirmed dates/times

[grand falcon]

Amm, quick question

Did they wipe all the characters?

[whole sluice]

Yup

They don't carry over from playtests

[grand falcon]

No no, from this playtest

[whole sluice]

No

If you are missing characters I would try rebooting

[grand falcon]

From yesterday to today, i dont have any characters anymore

[steep perch]

Anyone else having issues connecting?

[grand falcon]

Yup, i tried for 5 times now, prob just a bug

[steep perch]

I cant even get to the main screen at the moment

[inner flax]

Does a full face helmet offer more protection than a non-full face helmet for face shots from arrows?

If they're both equal armor stat

[whole sluice]

Report to #989065208087576596

[whole sluice]

Damage is not localized

You do get a bonus TO headshots, but it doesn't matter if it has armor or not in that spot

[inner flax]

wait, headshots give extra dmg though right? so some helmet better than no helmet yeah?

[inner flax]

WHAT

Wait so its a base reduction value based on overall armor yeah?

[jagged venture]

i just heard u can parry melee swings when enemy hit is falying on you

[whole sluice]

Headshots are 150%, torso/chest is 100%, limbs are 50%. It doesn't matter WHERE the armor is, it's a reduction regardless of where you get hit

[grand falcon]

Got it working

[misty echo]

Are the characters from now going to be saved for the next playtest?

[whole sluice]

Longsword is the only real parrying weapon. The others aren't implemented fully/correctly

[whole sluice]

No

[grand falcon]

@whole sluice A friend got connection issues, should he re-install the game?

[faint void]

anyone know if lvling up increases your bases stats? or stopping at lvl 15 is the play

[whole sluice]

Not sure tbh. I'm not a tech person

[whole sluice]

It does not

[grand falcon]

Np, thank you kindly

[faint void]

any perks to getting to lvl 20 then?

[white bay]

aare the lava monsters in the ghost king boss supposed to be invincible?

thats way too fucked up lmao

[whole sluice]

Nope

[median delta]

For Mages, what's the point of blue and whit tier crystal balls and books?

[random sandal]

why did they remove the option to drop enemy hearts on the ground?

[mossy granite]

Is it possible to cheese lich? Or he heals when he activates the skeletons?

[velvet sphinx]

Not yet any differences

[median delta]

Ty

[celest mural]

what is considered an arcane spell?

all wizard spells?

[whole sluice]

Ya 😦

[whole sluice]

All but fireball I believe

[sharp cosmos]

How could you be so heartless

[random sandal]

that was my signature on god lmao always dropped players hearts and making their healer waste their spell

[sharp cosmos]

https://tenor.com/view/how-could-you-tragic-heart-broken-heartless-kanye-west-gif-16666324

[tender quail]

Magical power works?

[whole sluice]

Yes?

[tender quail]

ok i just didnt saw change in magic power bonus, thanks ^^

[mossy granite]

Anyone? I wanna know if I can just shoot him with a bow to death

[summer jetty]

I'm not sure if it's already been covered or not, but does leveling up provide any stat boosts? or is it just the unlocked perk slots?

[whole sluice]

Just perks

[summer jetty]

So level 15 is the effective level cap. Awesome, thanks for the response.

[restive juniper]

How do you avoid the wall spikes in the area where they are on both sides?

[solar turtle]

+1 added magical damage applies to physical attacks right?

[rugged swan]

throw something on them to activate it then when it deactivates jump over it quickly

[restive juniper]

Not those, the wall spikes that come out from the wall, there is a certain corridor with 4 in total and they are on each side tried to hug the walls zigzagging but kept taking hits no matter what

[rugged swan]

crouch underneath them or walk in the middle of the hallway so they dont activate

have had both succeed and fail, depends on placement of spikes

[inner flax]

Ale duration doesn't stack, right?

[whole sluice]

Only crystal sword

[solar turtle]

ty

[whole sluice]

I'm assuming you mean stacking buffs? If so, no. Buffs refresh/replaced by the highest

[inner flax]

Yeah, str from Ale, cause i play cleric, ok ty for answer

[celest mural]

this is why my fireball does no damage

cant even kill spiders

[stuck mica]

Most likely to avoid clutter, even if its funny, its probably hard to code.

Also causes confusion

[whole sluice]

Nah, you can make it really hard to res people by piling all their gear on the floor with their heart

Plus, makes it so that res doesn't work

Since their heart needs to be put back and you can't do that

[stuck mica]

Well, i would like a mechanic to stop resing... for example hunt showdowns ability to burn bodies

Just chuck an explosion bottle fireball, or oil lantern to destroy corpses and everything on them

[whole sluice]

Disagree, but can continue that in the discussion channel 🙂

[candid imp]

Is there a way to change what you are selecting? I have run into an issue of hunters putting beartraps under bodies twice now. Can't select the bear trap because the body is over it

[late sentinel]

regarding the crystal sword, the +magical damage. does that mean like, the sword itself does extra magic dmg on hit, or makes spells do more?

[whole sluice]

Sword does magic damage

[grand umbra]

Me and my Cleric did some tests and yes, his heals were increased by +magical healing and then multiplied by his magic power multiplier.

[whole sluice]

Yeah magic power and phys power multiply after all flats are done

[glossy basalt]

Anyone kill the Ghost king since the patch this morning?

[faint nebula]

Will our data be resetted again when the next playtest drops?

[whole sluice]

Yes

[fresh pawn]

Anyone have an idea how to reset the shop ?

I have the same garbage 17 damage rondel / rapier / castillon dagger from last night, no updates since

[candid imp]

Shop resets after every run

[echo kindle]

anyone know what the official stance on the BR circle mechanic is? will it stay? is it temporary? get an overhaul?

[fresh pawn]

I've done a lot of runs since last night, the usable weapons for my char are the same gray quality and damage

I've been checking after every run

[candid imp]

If you have a few hundred gold go check the trade post and buy some blue ones should be like 50g

Players will sell them

[whole sluice]

Most likely going to stay. They've tried several other things but feel this is the best one they've used so far

[echo kindle]

sad to hear. biggest negative all my friends have with the game meaning my group is already dead before the game is out. it being a circle that just goes through walls and awkwardly cuts the level apart in non-sensical ways is just terrible

[whole sluice]

Disagree, but please post on #feedback-hidden-archive

[timber mist]

can you do skull key without wizard?? just tried on 300 movement rogue and couldnt ever get the jump

[late sentinel]

Does the wraith have magic resistance?

[tardy pasture]

Do better spell books do anything? i dont notice a difference between a baisc one and a blue one

[whole sluice]

Not as of now

[timber mist]

@whole sluice How do you do the skull key jump without wizard?

[whole sluice]

To be fair you're not supposed to

Thats an exploit

[short scaffold]

no to bypass it

[whole sluice]

What are you talking about? There is nothing class specific about the Skull Door

[tardy pasture]

What is the skull key jump?

[whole sluice]

You do realize there is a switch to lower a drawbridge across the lava?

Once you open the door

[weary coral]

What does “spell memorization” do?

[whole sluice]

Lets you use pslells

[weary coral]

Oh so if you dont have it you cant even cast them?

[whole sluice]

Gotta love click baiters

[whole sluice]

Correct

[weary coral]

Okok, thanks!

[whole sluice]

No, there is a switch 😄

[glossy basalt]

So are the lava golems unkill-able in the ghost king fight now?

[cyan slate]

Impostor!

[young light]

sus

[peak bluff]

I've heard people saying this but haven't tried yet

[echo kindle]

any ETA on Floor 1? also is it true Floor 1 won't have BR circle?

[glossy basalt]

We tried it, went in started the fight put 30+ arrows in both of them and they did not die. Ghost King seems to have more HP as well, had it on farm.. now it seems like it has more HP

[whole sluice]

No eta, and don't know where you heard the rumor of no circle because that doesn't sound right

[echo kindle]

was just someone saying that the text in the adventure book saying "there is a curse below in the dungeons" meant that floor 1 wouldnt have one

[whole sluice]

Nah, that just means the Lich and undead for lol lore reasons

The fopdoodle book in general is slightly outdated with stats as is

But I love the comics in it 😄

[peak bluff]

Might just have to kill them while alive, feels like both bosses do %hp so it might be worth take off any negative speed gear when fighting it to avoid the magmas abilities

[naive stratus]

Does cleric shield stack with protection shield from a pot? Because the animation is completely on top of each other and I cant tell if its both or just 1

[hardy brook]

are torches supposed to do the same damage as the starting dagger

was doing testing on the dummy

[whole sluice]

Both are 13 I think

[whole sluice]

No, spell = stronger

[hardy brook]

the dream

[tawny tide]

Is there a breakdown somewhere of all of the various stats and how they affect the game?

[terse grotto]

Pretty sure fists do more dmg than starter weapons

[naive stratus]

ok cool so both shields dont cancel each other out

[hardy brook]

20 damage on a punch vs 17 on dagger, yeeep

[terse grotto]

And no move penalty

[whole sluice]

Fopdoodle menu, but here

Agility Move Speed Action Speed Equip Speed Interaction Speed (Regular)
Knowledge Spell Casting Speed Interaction Speed (Magical)
Resourcefulness Interaction Speed (Regular)
Strength Health Physical Power Bonus Physical Power
Will Magic Resist Resist Rating Magic Power Bonus Magic Power Buff and Curse Durations

[whole sluice]

They do, the highest replaces

[tawny tide]

Those yes, but what about all of the other stats?

[naive stratus]

ohhh

tysm!

[whole sluice]

I mean, they are kinda self explanatory. + Physical damage increases physical damage

[naive stratus]

definitely didnt know that, so the green will cancel the prot pot

[tawny tide]

There's a lot of them that don't necessarily explain themselves

[whole sluice]

The spell is most likely stronger than the potion so it will replace the potion effect with the prot spell ability

[whole sluice]

Like?

[tawny tide]

Like, what exactly does physical power or magic power do? It's not clear how that affects damage dealt

[whole sluice]

Physical power is a multiplier. Go to the Character sheet and you'll see how everything is laid out. Physical power is a % increases, everything else is flat. Hence the % on it

Magic increases things that do magic damage

[tawny tide]

It's somewhat frustrating that the character sheet doesn't take into account your equipped weapon. But it's a % bonus, okay

Do we know how the Physical Power number converts to a percentage? I have 25, and it's at 10%, but when I remove my amulet and it lowers to 20, the percentage is now 5%

[whole sluice]

So thats more based on strength

So every stat is 'neutral' at 15

Anything lower and you get penalties, anything more and you get bonuses

So each point for point is weighted pending on threshold numbers

Str. governs Phys. Power stat

Each point of str. above 15 is 2 hp and 1% phys. power

[red lion]

Suprised i searched rogue secondary and got basically nothing, so apologies if this has been asked a lot in a different way -
What's the benefit to using a secondary as Rogue? Like it's left click to use primary, right click to use secondary - is it better to alternate clicks, faster and stronger that way or?

[whole sluice]

So if you have 15 strength = 0 Phys. Power, then add +5 phys power, you have 5%

[whole sluice]

Combo chambering, animation cancelling, stat sticks

[tawny tide]

so raw +str is generally going to better than +phys power

[whole sluice]

Arguably yes, but you can find higher end +phys power rolls

I.E. I've seen a +6 phys power, but nothing more than +5 str

[languid harbor]

so does a bandage slow you for each in the stack or is it just flat per stack?

[red lion]

Cool thanks, that'll be enough for me to go searching up on my own

[whole sluice]

Flat by wearing it

[whole sluice]

Also, different weapons have diferent combo damage

[quick marten]

the castillion dagger hass a strong 3rd and wide sweeping 1st and 2nd good for getting behind blocking

[whole sluice]

Check the castllion dagger in a match. The 3rd hit has amssive bonus, but the first 2 swings are WIDE and easy to block/hit a wall

[tawny tide]

Do we know how speed is calculated? Because the speed value on the character sheet doesn't seem to update with gear

[red lion]

I see, pretty cool!

[whole sluice]

Basically anything less than 300 is less than 100% speed, anything over is more

I don't have enough data because it's hard to test lots of +move speed bonuses in a match without dying

[tawny tide]

Right, but removing gear and wearing only +speed gear doesn't make it visibly go above that

[whole sluice]

It does, just not while in stash

Unequip and go to class

That shows it above 300

[tawny tide]

ohhh

that's wonky

[whole sluice]

Yeah

[glossy basalt]

@peak bluff Lava is easy enough to dodge, and the jump mechanic is telegraphed so not taking damage from that is easy with experienced players. And with the amount of damage we pumped into the boss and the golems we should have killed him 3x over.. (we had him on farm with 17 kills). But after the patch the boss seems to have more health, obv can't cheese golems from door. But in the fight we could not kill the golems was 4-6 arrows killing them out side the room with cheese. Last attempt we had put 30 arrows into one, did not die.. so we went to the boss and after a 3min fight (normally 30-60 sec) we had to run out of the room.. boss seems to have way more HP as well?

[red lion]

Can other players hear you open your inventory?

[daring spindle]

Damn bro that was so long ago. I appreciate you going back to @ me and getting the answer for me bro

[limpid nexus]

yo guys, whats the gameplani for the lich

[grand umbra]

I just scanned through for any that didn't get fully answered from when I slept is all.

[whole sluice]

Ok, I'm taking off for a few hours

Try to behave 😄

Enjoy the darkening

[stable kindle]

how do you fire multiple arrows at once?

[whole sluice]

Its one of the skills on Ranger you can take

[stable kindle]

ah thanks

[glossy leaf]

In the ranger perk "Spear Proficiency" what does "Window can be used" mean?

[peak bluff]

Don't stop moving. Stay close together.
Stack purple circle
Don't stack blue circle
Take fists out and run from the orb that follows you and run it into a skeleton

[karmic summit]

Which stat increases attack speed???

[quick marten]

I think agi

as it does mess with action speed

[final nova]

is there going to be a wipe afta this ?

[quick marten]

Yes every playtest will have a wipe

[grand umbra]

Dex does increase Action speed, which does affect attack speed, as well as all other animations.

[grand umbra]

There will be a wipe between every playtest as too much changes between them.

[grand umbra]

That is a typo. I believe it's supposed to be "Weapon can be used."

[brittle patrol]

do higher damage wizard staffs add to the spell damage or just physical

[quick marten]

what is dex? do you mean agi?

[little lily]

Is there a difference between the various qualities of surgery kits?

[grand umbra]

Yes, sorry they're mentally interchangeable to me.

[quick marten]

fair just wanted to make sure

[merry kernel]

hey, when you dual wield two weapons, does it stack the movement speed debuff from both or just the highest one?

[grand umbra]

I've not tested it myself, but I know higher rarity campfires deploy quicker, so it'd be safe to assume higher rarity surgicals are quicker to use.

[grand umbra]

Both Move speed penalties apply.

[quick marten]

i wanna say both

as you can use it as a stat stick as well

[somber shoal]

how does the lich work

me and my friend were thinking about fighting him but he got one shot and some purple thing around me one shot me

[merry kernel]

One shot orb follows you and that purple ring I think you have to stack up with your teammates

[somber shoal]

ah

that makes perfect sense actually

[merry kernel]

Not sure about the stack up mechanic 100 percent though someone else here probably knows everything about the boss lmao

[snow hedge]

How do you reach the third floor?

[merry kernel]

only two floors atm

[somber shoal]

there is none yet

[merry kernel]

use the red portal to go down to the second

[snow hedge]

I thought there was a third floor with a skull door

[gaunt cypress]

how to open the golden door at top of tower on floor 1? and what's behind gold door, anyone know?

[brittle wigeon]

Infinite treasure on the groud that gives tons of gold and stuff u sell to treasure man, basically you should buy money pouch before heading there and fill it with the infinite treasure

[grand umbra]

The floor you start on is Floor 2, going through the red portal brings you to floor 3. Floor 1 is not yet complete.

[snow hedge]

I see.

[flint harness]

Q:Do we get xp for killing players or only for mobs?

[grand umbra]

You need the golden key, which drops from the skeletal champion that is behind the doors at the bottom of the tower at about a 10% drop rate. Inside the room is a treasure pile that you can repeatedly loot for gold/items, though it takes a while each time to loot.

[grand umbra]

Yes, Player kill is one of the sources of XP.

[flint harness]

how much xp gives it is there like a wiki where i can look up?

i mean is it like a mummy spider or skeleton or wraith?

^^

ty btw

[grand umbra]

There is no wiki at this time, The game's development started literally a year ago as of today. There is too much stuff that will be consistently changing between playtests to make it worthwhile for data to be placed on a wiki officially. However, a few of the sages here are working on compiling as much info as they can for such a source of info.

I do know the most significant source of XP is descending to Floor 3.

[flint harness]

ok ty . But is it doable to just farm players for lvl up or should i focus mobs till i hit 20 (solo rouge )

[grand umbra]

XP sources include PvE and PvP kills, Opening chests, Descending, and successfully escaping. So the fastest way to level would simply be play the game effectively rather then try to zero in on a singular source.

[flint harness]

also inter actions like healing allies should give xp or not?

cause when i go cleric i get non e of the kills due to constant healing/buffing

[prisma burrow]

Hey guys, level 16 cleric here. Looking to ask experienced clerics what their spell priority is in groups? I.e. Protection>Healing or vice versa.

[grand umbra]

They do not at this time, but it's something that certainly has been mentioned/suggested already. A easy way to gain XP as Cleric is to go to the ziggurat room with the 10+ flying skulls and use your AoE to kill them all.

[tough compass]

Can you cast spells while wielding the Crystal Sword?

[grand umbra]

When I'm engaging, my cleric is uses bless and then protection, but mid fight it's basically just what makes sense at the time. Lots of Hp down? Redemption, Only a little HP lost and Protection is already popped? Protection. Otherwise I think he just is keeping a light heal waiting for the second it pops to heal and then swap to reapplying Protection.

[grand umbra]

Yes, it is a casting implement.

[tough compass]

Great, thank you

[flint harness]

and one last questuion: opening a door that requires lockpick...then you enter and close it behind you, can other enemy players open it withouyt the lockpick ?

sorry "misquote"

[grand umbra]

Yes, once unlocked it remains unlocked.

[flint harness]

ty for your time sir! ❤️

[winged jolt]

When a cleric uses a higher level staff than the starting one, do they do more damage/ heals?

[flint harness]

ah wait. wich attribute buffs my cleric spell damage?

haha evaltico

[grand umbra]

The higher rarity only increases melee damage at this time.

Will provides magic power, which does apply to your damage and your healing.

[flint harness]

Colto, wich attribute buffs my cleric spell damage?

[grand umbra]

"Will"

[flint harness]

does it also buff healing?

[grand umbra]

Or Items that increase Bonus Magical Power. Your damage will also will be increased by items with +Magical Damage or +True Magical Damage. Your healing will be increased by +Magical Healing.

[halcyon mauve]

what does meditate actually do (wizards spell)

[flint harness]

you can recover your wasted spells

refill

but idk how many

so you dont run out of spells. but its like campfire you need to be in a safe place/zone cause it needs some time

[halcyon mauve]

ah ty

[cosmic wadi]

Is there a way to transfer items from on character to another?

[pseudo flame]

So how do you cleanse the lich curse?

[quick marten]

for 45 gold and a second person yes through trade

[grand umbra]

With a (trusted) second player you could pay a 60g total fee to trade one load to the other person, and trade back. They've stated they want some way to do it between your characters but it's not implemented yet.

[cosmic wadi]

Ahhh okay thanks. I only play solo so I was wondering if there was a way to do it between my one characters.

[frigid parcel]

how much hp does lich have

[grand umbra]

Somewhere between 2k-3k.

[winter bough]

Is there an easier way to contact wardens than ping the role?

[visual dagger]

depending on what u need

[winter bough]

Trying to get some information on being a Troubadour

I have a small following of 33.2k on Instagram and a couple thousand on twitch

[scenic fern]

anyone know what the different spell book colour qualities account for

[dense sedge]

how do i deal with ranged ai when i play as a rogue? i reached the last level of the dungeon and 90% of the rooms have archers in them. Also, on a side note, how do you kill wraiths?

[sand sparrow]

Cow are you around

Dont want to @ ya

[boreal torrent]

Does exit gates show up in the map?

[eager steeple]

wraiths are dumb. Once we managed to kill one without any gear on us and then again me on barbarian + my friend on fighter BOTH fully equiped with retarded +65dmg weapons

we just got rekt by it

[dense sedge]

mhmm

[boreal torrent]

Just close a door on him

[dense sedge]

so theres no like methods to kill him?

[boreal torrent]

We cheesed him with a door

[eager steeple]

just bash him till he dies

i guess

[boreal torrent]

It took +25 shots to kill with normal bow

[eager steeple]

not bad actually

[boreal torrent]

It takes half an hour to shoot that much

kek

[eager steeple]

i mean arrows are shit against NPCs so 25 isnt that bad haha

[spark yoke]

Just use a bow, bow are just OMEGA over powered, majin do close to 100 dmg wth a blue bow and 50 dmg wth a yellow arming sword

[dense sedge]

is there any strat or something to kill him as a rogue? maybe just run in cirlces or smth lol

[boreal torrent]

Hey I said +25 not 25

Meaning I got no clue how many we actually shot

[boreal torrent]

You prolly can't unless you cheese him with a metal door you can attack trough

So far at least

The best way is to kite him with a duo

Once agro changes the other guy goes ham on it

[dense sedge]

mhmm. this might be a swap to a different class moment i guess

[boreal torrent]

Just don't fight him as solo

You'll be there for 100 years then a 3 man will show up and get free loot from wraith

[eager steeple]

ah

[boreal torrent]

It took a bit but if you get 2 with bow then you can halve that

[eager steeple]

or just go full barbarian on the motherfucka

[somber shoal]

does the rarity of spellbooks and wizards staff and crystal ball change anything?

[eager steeple]

damn id play some more barbarian, sad waiting whole month

[quick marten]

NO

[quick marten]

sorry caps im in trade chat

[prisma burrow]

Thank you for this info, I appreciate it. 🙂

[boreal torrent]

Doors appear on map yes or neh?

Blue exit doors

[grand umbra]

As long as you're not right next to them you can side strafe and they'll miss. You can also time it so you duck right as the arrow flys at you since they always aim for the head. Wraiths the best place to be moving backwards and to the right, if they wind up for the dash you just start going full right instead of back.

[grand umbra]

They do not appear on the minimap if that's what you mean.

[boreal torrent]

Yes that's what I meant, if not then what are white dots on mini map?

Also that's sadge leaving is almost impossible considering those damn things don't appear inside circle some times

[grand umbra]

They always appear with in the previous circle's radius.

[terse hazel]

Where are rez spots on the circle map besides the center wizard one?

[indigo canopy]

until when will the current playtest last ?

[inner flax]

Does simply having a shield equpped increase your armor rating like armor does?

[unborn mica]

#📢announcements message

[terse hazel]

8 ish more hours

[dark current]

How do the rarities function in the game?

Like I got a white item that is better than a blue item and i feel like that's weird

[boreal torrent]

Last circle had nothing, they all spawned outside of it

[grand umbra]

Each rarity has a range of numbers it can roll for it's base stats. Is it the same exact item type?

[novel ivy]

Hello. Can anyone let me know if there are special ways to find the exit? Seems like I just have to stumble upon them

[high brook]

Does the pavise block on you back?

[grand umbra]

You might not of seen them, but that is how it functions. Unless you're referring the circle that is basically nothing after all portals have spawned.

[runic marten]

what stats do exactly?

like resourcefullness

[grand umbra]

Stay within the circle area, and listen for the scrapping stone sound. Otherwise they're pretty visually apparent with just a glance down hallways and into rooms.

[grand umbra]

It does not.

[dark current]

Yeah I was on a doublet, I guess that would sense.

[grand umbra]

@runic marten See replied post.

[novel ivy]

Thank you for the info. Can you check your map? and is anything marked on it significantly?

[grand umbra]

The portal stones do not show on the minimap.

[bronze gale]

Hey guys, does strength increase bow damage?

[grand umbra]

Yes, STR increases Physical Power, and all weapons deal physical damage.

[bronze gale]

Thanks boss

[runic marten]

thanks

[gilded juniper]

how to beat the ghost king we go full stuff we're getting f... so hard with the slow and all

[grand umbra]

You can have a player get rid of the stacking slowing debuff by having them walk out of the room until it expires in about 5 seconds. If you rotate the people leaving you should be able to retain your mobility enough to dodge the lava golem attacks.

[gilded juniper]

ok

like a relay

[eternal walrus]

Quick question, can you jump over traps? Did anyone try?

[grand umbra]

Basically. You'll want to be rotating as a loose group (Loose so you don't get AoE'd when it teleports to a player and does damage in a radius), and have a player swing out for a breather if their stacks get 15+.

[grand umbra]

You have to have enough move speed, but if you do you can bait the trap either by putting a toe in or tossing a torch on it, and then as the spikes are receding you can jump and crouch midair to not take damage.

[winged jolt]

yes and yes

[grand umbra]

If you have an excessive amount of move speed, like from some combo of sprint/rage/haste/speed shrine/bless, you can manage it without having to time it as it recedes.

[eternal walrus]

@grand umbra cool. I didn't think of jump crouching. Always felt like I just needed a tad bit more to get over

[gilded juniper]

ok thx @grand umbra

[clear mauve]

what is the ancient scroll used for?

[grand umbra]

It's just a loot item to sell to collector.

[clear mauve]

bruh i found a purple one and it sold for 11 💀

[grand umbra]

It is particularly bad for its gold per inventory space.

I think the Exquisite (Orange) one I decided to give a try sold for around 30.

[fierce karma]

Does the Bardiche count as an axe type for Barb perks?

[grand umbra]

No, it's a polearm.

[fierce karma]

ty

[grand umbra]

I still suggest it over most others, it's swings are amazing and it frees up a perk slot.

[fierce karma]

it's broken af

the second i started using it i became a monster

[placid oracle]

why isnt cleric revive working

said spell has been used but was not revived

soul heart was still on body

[unborn mica]

Did you cancel it during the animation

[placid oracle]

No

[boreal torrent]

Is there a way to move items from/to stash and inventory?

Faster than drag ofc

[placid oracle]

My friend is a Cleric and says he can revive others but everytime he tries reviving me it wont work

[unborn mica]

Shift right click

[boreal torrent]

God bless child

I was getting annoyed by this ahah

[lusty hedge]

Is there a guide anywhere for the Lich?

[unborn mica]

Look up on youtube "dark and darker lich guide" first video is a guide

[pseudo flame]

What's the strat against the lich? Why does the purple aura oneshots and how to dispel it?

[grand umbra]

If the soul heart was removed, the cleric revive will not work.

[unborn mica]

You need to stack on your teammates to split the damage from purple ball pretty sure

If you don't stack it one shots

[pseudo flame]

Wait what, the purple aura?

[unborn mica]

Oh I thought you said purple ball, I don't know if what I said and what you said are the same thing

[grand umbra]

Red aura = Don't get near ally or they die.
Blue Aura = The ally will take damage, but other allies will take the same damage if they're in the area.
Purple Aura = A large amount of damage will be dealt to the player (likely lethal), but it is split evenly between allies, so stack up.

[stuck sorrel]

are there any plans to add something like tarkovs secure cases? something you have in your inventory that you can use to ensure you keep certain, smaller items even if you die?

[pseudo flame]

I only saw the purple aura, do they change or are they random?

[grand umbra]

I don't know the logic behind what aura he chooses, but I don't believe it's fully random.

A dev did mention in general today that purple aura means you need stop damaging the lich, so I suspect he might do that one if you're doing a high enough threshold of damage to him in a specific timeframe.

[pseudo flame]

What about his blue shield, should we focus ads or him or just ignore him?

@grand umbra

[grand umbra]

I don't suggest focusing ads compared to just rotating in a circle around, but I don't know if the shield has anything special to it.

At most maybe kill the archers, but honestly it's just best to keep mobile and avoiding damage while taking safe windows to deal damage to him.

[fierce locust]

what does spell capacity do?

[dark current]

So what is the difference between the crystal ball and the wizard staff?

[grand umbra]

Nothing at the moment. It's intended to give additional casts of spells and/or abilities.

[grand umbra]

@dark current Check linked reply.

[fierce locust]

thank you for the answer

[drifting berry]

What do the stats do?

[unborn mica]

on the lobby screen in the bottom left right click fopdoodles and on the page with classes shows what stats do

[leaden dust]

where can i sell fake jewlery

[unborn mica]

the collector

[leaden dust]

or silver to the merchants

[leaden dust]

thanks

[unborn mica]

you can trade silver coincs with the treasuer for cold coins

[grand umbra]

Silver is specifically to the Treasurer, you must "purchase" a gold coin using 3 silver.

[unborn mica]

No worries

[rotund fjord]

does "+5 additional magic damage" affect melee attacks?

[unborn mica]

Only crystal sword and spells

[grand umbra]

No, except in the case of the Crystal Sword, because it has both physical and magical damage as part of it's melee attack.

[rotund fjord]

ty

[thin prism]

can you crouch under wall traps?

[grand umbra]

Yes

[leaden dust]

how to sell silver coins to the treasurer

[boreal torrent]

If I equip 2 daggers I have to attack with both to make it worth or it's damage based on both equipped per attack?

[unborn mica]

You dont sell them you buy the gold coins with them

[leaden dust]

Oooo

[boreal torrent]

3:1

Honestly not a good thing to pick if you find 1

🤔

[unborn mica]

Yea silver coins are pretty bad

[boreal torrent]

Any idea on the dagger question?

I am wondering since it won't let me equip my dagger on 1st slot only on 2nd

[grand umbra]

Silver coins can stack to 20, so they're a theoretical 6.6g per inventory space efficiency, which is better then most 1 slot whites and multi-slot blues. However, they do take up seconds of your life as you "buy" each gold coin, so I don't bother with them.

Certain weapons are specifically Primary, or Secondary.

[boreal torrent]

You first need to find 20 of them...

Which is the main issue here

Faster looting loose loot than silver coins unless you manage to find a stack of them

[grand umbra]

That seems to be a bug, I've never heard/seen that. Do you have a video that you could provide to the devs in #989065208087576596?

[boreal torrent]

Yes but the question is if it will add to left click attack or I am forced to use right click to apply dmg of the second dagger

[grand umbra]

Secondary weapons have to be swung with right click.

[boreal torrent]

That somewhat answers my question I guess, thank you gamer

[grand umbra]

If you were asking if it adds both weapons damages together, no.

[boreal torrent]

Yep that was what I was wondering, considering how low dmg these are

Oh well back to the shadows to jump unsuspected players while looting

[flint harness]

Q:where drops the golden key (10%) at the skelett king in the tower room or in one of these 2 chests?

[pseudo flame]

@grand umbra Thanks. We killed the lich 🙂

[unborn mica]

Any of the skeleton champions

[whole sluice]

It's from the Skeleton Cpt. at the base of that tower behind the dbl doors

[grand umbra]

It's in the skeleton champions inventory. It is dropped instead of the otherwise guaranteed lockpick

[whole sluice]

To be fair, it's abug on the loot table in the other room

[unborn mica]

I got a golden key from one in the lower floor

[whole sluice]

See above 😄

[ornate basin]

How to avoid floor traps? I try to "bait" them but doesnt seem to matter. So even when theyre up, and I walk over still does damage.

[whole sluice]

You still need to jump crouch over them as they are middle of going down

[grand umbra]

@ornate basin See above convo.

[whole sluice]

In general there really isn't a guaranteed 'safe' way outside of disarming them as Rogue

But bad latency/timing and you'll still get hit

[ornate basin]

Ah i see

[cyan pivot]

Does Ranger True Shot increase the distance the arrow travels or just the speed it travels?

[whole sluice]

Speed

Technically it's also distance, but since it will always hit a wall

[cyan pivot]

Understood. Thanks.

[errant oar]

Is rapier or arming sword better for ranger

[grand umbra]

Depends on which you're more comfortable with, they're both solid.

[whole sluice]

More of an opinion piece to be honest, might get better reactions from the discussion sections, but I think the Rapier is MUCH easier to donk people in the nose and can use in tight hallways

[errant oar]

Which has more range?

[whole sluice]

The Rapier by like... an inch maybe?

[errant oar]

Thats what gets me the most in fights

[whole sluice]

They are pretty close

[errant oar]

rapier it is then lul

[golden rock]

What's the difference between "ranged weapon" and "long range weapon" for the purposes of the sharpshooter and ranged weapons expert perks?

[whole sluice]

Same thing, both mean bows

[golden rock]

So if I take both do they stack?

[whole sluice]

Yup

[grand umbra]

Honestly most weapons don't have that big of difference in range, outside the outliers like daggers and Felling Axe (for short), and Bardiche/Spear/Halberd for long.

[whole sluice]

^^ This one melees 🙂

[cursive flint]

Battle Axe feels amazing, felling axe feels like I have to face hug

[grand umbra]

+Move speed is basically +range.

[whole sluice]

The main thing felling axe has is increased attack speed if you hit the target

[grand umbra]

Yeah, Felling axe is the highest raw DPS weapon for sure, but man it punishes hard on whiff.

[cursive flint]

Movement speed is life. It’s attacks you would have eaten but dodge instead. As soon as I spawn in on barb I take off the helmet and pants. Gives me 300 movespeed. Same base as cleric fighter and wizard

[drifting berry]

What's the difference between true magic damage and additional? If it's on a weapon, does it apply to spells?

[cursive flint]

The -40 move speed on the default 2H axe hurts a lot though. Makes it really hard to follow up on targets. Playing solo is nice because they never use space they just sit on top of you and try and hit trade. Too bad I three shot even feared fighters

[whole sluice]

True bypasses resistances and armor

[grand umbra]

And spells/skills is all it applies to unless it's a crystal sword.

[drifting berry]

Ty

[round void]

does boss heal if you walk out of the room

[whole sluice]

Yes

[grand umbra]

Yes

[round void]

does arcane mastery only affect magic missile

[whole sluice]

Fireball is the only non-arcane spell currently

But since the others don't do damage 😄

[round void]

isnt....magic missile the only arcane spell...

at least that does damage?

[grand umbra]

I think the cast time reduction applies to Invis/Haste

But haven't tested it.

[whole sluice]

I don't believe it does because they don't damage

But, I still think they are classified as 'arcane'

[placid oracle]

@whole sluice any ideas what could cause me to not be revived by my clerics revive? soul heart was still on body, he didnt move at all during cast and it said spell completed. i also wasnt in death swarm. he can revive others though

[grand umbra]

Hmm, I assumed that was why it seems some grey geared wizards can cast haste/invis super quick, while others take a noticeably longer time.

[whole sluice]

Unless his spell casting item bonked a wall and/or he looked away from your body, not sure

[whole sluice]

Could also not take meditate for .1 recast 🙂

[grand umbra]

Ah right, I forgot some people would consider taking that.

[somber shoal]

anyone know when next playtest is

[timber thunder]

If i have a spellbook with let's say + flat true magical damage, that stat is useless right? because u cant equip offhand to smack with and it doesn't apply to spells

[whole sluice]

It will add true magical damage to your spells

[grand umbra]

It will be announced in about a week. Presumably it's around once a month.

[timber thunder]

So every magic missile? or does it average over all

[whole sluice]

Every

[timber thunder]

what about + physical, will they get that aswell?

[whole sluice]

No, because they don't do physical damage

[timber thunder]

So, a BiS spellbook would be something like +true magical, + magical, willpower, and magical power, maybe magic pen

damage wise

[whole sluice]

I mean, depends. Maybe you want some str/hp, or AGI for movement and interact speed....

For spells Will is probably pound for pound the best state

• Magic is close second, but will scales REALLY well at least until 40 will

Then it's still good, just not as good as 30-40

[timber thunder]

I see, thanks. with some gear i can get up to 55 damage on my magic missile, compared to 35 i think in basic gear

Always thought it was just will/magical. good to know thanks!

[crimson moss]

what do spell books do

[flint harness]

do all players share the same merch content?

@flint harness ingame merchants

[whole sluice]

No

[whole sluice]

The differences between the various magical casting items and weapons are this: They differ in movement speed penalties, utility, and casting animations (Not speed). Each have specific uses. For instance, the crystal sword is great if you want to be a battle mage and cast spells while also bonking people on the head. The staff is terrible for halls because it has wide casting animations, but also lets you bonk slightly stronger than sword. And some don't let you bonk but only cast spells.

[grand umbra]

To note, Will is synergistic with the +magic damage as well, since you get the 25+Magic damage which is then multiplied by your spell power.

[crimson moss]

just wondered bc i picked up a spell book and the casting felt noticably faster

[timber thunder]

I have noticed this that it boosts crystal sword damage a lot. i have hit for 65 with it. the magical damage part hitting like a truck if it has some +

[boreal torrent]

Pro solo tip Emote for friendship

🙋

[grand umbra]

That being multiplied by your high Magic power modifier, as well as because most people are usually running with 20% or more physical damage reduction from armor, but basically no (or negative) magic resist. So the magic side of it hits a lot harder.

[golden rock]

How do I put items in chat?

[boreal torrent]

Man that's easier than to get wrecked by a 3 man ahaha

[grand umbra]

Shift+Click them.

[timber thunder]

I guess if ur going for damage best setup would be rondell and ball. since u can stack loads of damage on it. even other utility. fast cast speed and decent pve with a good daggert

Like a stat stick

[jovial spear]

How tf are you supposed to kill archer skeletons as a rogue

even if you go invis they dont lose agro

and hit you and you are no longer invis

[whole sluice]

pOKE THEM ONCE OR TWICE, MOVE BACK SO YOU HAVE ENOUGH DISTANCE TO ROTATE, THEN WAIT FOR THEM TO SHOOT, THEN MOVE BACK IN. aLSO, RAPIER > pVe COMPARED TO DAGGERS

Caps -.-

[grand umbra]

Wait till after they shoot, go in for one head shot, back up and side strafe the shots, repeat. You can also duck their arrows with precise timing.

[golden rock]

What happens if you pick the lock in the red section versus the other section?

[grand umbra]

Opens instantly.

[whole sluice]

It completes instantly

[grizzled nexus]

How do you post items in the traders guild?

[grand umbra]

Most rogues are only gonna have one QTE while picking though, so it doesn't mean much for them.

[whole sluice]

Shift click

[grizzled nexus]

Thank you

[ionic dock]

what is resourcefulness

[whole sluice]

Resourcefulness Interaction Speed (Regular)

[cedar ingot]

What does atrributes give?

[whole sluice]

Which one(s)?

[pearl mulch]

what are silver coins for?

[surreal hollow]

I havent seen any full size maps around. Is this on purpose or just not added yet as its low priority?

[cedar ingot]

All

[unborn mica]

exchange them to the treasurer for gold coins

[whole sluice]

The game is super development to be fair

[surreal hollow]

.

Silver coins can be traded for gold coins

[whole sluice]

Agility Move Speed Action Speed Equip Speed Interaction Speed (Regular)
Knowledge Spell Casting Speed Interaction Speed (Magical)
Resourcefulness Interaction Speed (Regular)
Strength Health Physical Power Bonus Physical Power
Will Magic Resist Resist Rating Magic Power Bonus Magic Power Buff and Curse Durations

And the maps change each playtest

[naive marten]

not really a mechanic, but the characters will be wiped when the playtest ends right?

[whole sluice]

Yes

[cedar ingot]

Thanks

[sturdy cosmos]

I need advice, as its the last night by friend and i are wanting to duo the lich

is it possible first to duo the lich

w purple+ gear

[surreal hollow]

Ahh didnt relise they change each beta... i pieced together maps for the first floor but guess i wont need them after today 😢

[whole sluice]

Might be better to ask discussion channels. This is more a Q&A and we don't have any boss testing data this playtest

[pearl mulch]

when I go to him and click "Sell" it says he is not interested...

[cedar ingot]

Yeah its possible with rogue + priest

[whole sluice]

Buy gold coins

[unborn mica]

^

[pearl mulch]

Oooh ty

[cedar ingot]

As resourcefullness increases only action speed is there any point in taking it over agility?

[whole sluice]

It's double the gains compared to 1 agi, but in general unless you are making a truly rat character, AGI wins hands down

[cedar ingot]

It should have another effect like CD reduction or something

[whole sluice]

The stats aren't fully functioning

Eventually there will be backpack space etc.. and that is another effect of that stat

[cedar ingot]

Ohh

Action speed is opening chests, doors, attacking, bandaging etc?

[whole sluice]

Action speed is attack speed/swapping items around, using potions/bandages/campfires etc...

Interaction is opening chests, doors, turning on/off torches etc

[grand umbra]

Item interaction speed specifically applies to doors/chests/bandages, while action speed applies to almost everything.

[steady holly]

What does resourcefulnes do?

[cedar ingot]

So using bandages is action or interaction?

[whole sluice]

Easy way to tell the difference, are you interacting with something in the dungeon, thats interaction. Anything on/from you, thats action

[whole sluice]

Action

[steep hornet]

so what determines experience gained? Monster kills, player kills, extraction?

[cedar ingot]

Agility Move Speed Action Speed Equip Speed Interaction Speed (Regular)
Knowledge Spell Casting Speed Interaction Speed (Magical)
Resourcefulness Interaction Speed (Regular)
Strength Health Physical Power Bonus Physical Power
Will Magic Resist Resist Rating Magic Power Bonus Magic Power Buff and Curse Durations

[whole sluice]

XP is earned by doing pretty much anything. Killing players, killing AI, opening chests/corpses/portals, escaping, taking a down portal. The largest chunk of xp is going down to the bottom floor followed by escaping.

[fading lion]

How do you level quickly?

[cedar ingot]

Play

[whole sluice]

Efficiently loot, plunder, kill, descend, live, repeat 😄

[steep hornet]

ty man.

[grand umbra]

Basically just play the game well.

[steep hornet]

trying to escape hell solo is a pain in the butt

[whole sluice]

The fastest is most likely going to the bottom floor, killing elite mobs there and then escaping successfully

[wicked gate]

What button to cast on cleric?

[whole sluice]

Right click when you have a spell foci equipped

[wicked gate]

We need a move corpse mechanic

[empty swift]

does strength help me out as a rogue? it give me more damage output right?

[whole sluice]

A little yeah

Also gives HP

[empty swift]

ty

[terse grotto]

• physical healing
  how does this work?
  does it give me that flat amount every time i hit?

[whole sluice]

Not really. Best loots are locked chests, wraith, skeleton captain and bosses

But the rest is mixed between

[whole sluice]

No, anytime you use a cammpfire, healing potion or bandage it gives you more healing

[glad inlet]

What would you say it takes to do the bosses, gear or knowing the mechanics?

[terse grotto]

ahhh heal on hit would be kinda strong

[whole sluice]

Mechanics > Gear due to one shot mechanics. However, you need at least blue/purples

But communication and mechanic knowledge is more important

[molten agate]

How do you actually jump over railings?

[whole sluice]

Jump crouch

Although, some railings are too tall

But most are doable

[molten agate]

Would recommend fix that for release to make it more consistent

[whole sluice]

#feedback-hidden-archive

[scarlet furnace]

is there somewhere I can see a breakdown of what the core stats do? like knowledge for instance

[whole sluice]

Fopdoodles button on the main menu

Page 2

[scarlet furnace]

ty somehow didnt see that section

[dark current]

What does physical healing do?

Is it like lifesteal?

[whole sluice]

Increases healing by potions, bandages, and campfire ticks

[dark current]

ah perfect thanks

[naive marten]

control to split a stack?