i saw people suggesting since victory was declared, they just update the game and now it's the sims where you gotta just play on peaceful planets
#Helldivers
lost blade
scarlet burrow
right now the focus is making oil farms from the bugs
silver marten
Apparently the devs were straight up just not expecting so many players to actually fight the bots, a good 70% of the playerbase was helping eradicate the bots
scarlet burrow
Heh
leaden thunder
silver marten
i love how you post stuff we were just talking about
leaden thunder
i love how you post stuff we were just talking about
I’ve only been up an hour so not fully active yet 
rain garden
It's more a matter of scrolling up a bit
leaden thunder
What enemies would everyone like the devs to add
silver marten
Bots again
They didn't die hard enough the first time
Honestly? Human dissidents probably
They could use helldiver equipment
silver marten
https://fxtwitter.com/helldivers2/status/1777345490121568662 they're so confident about the stability of the galaxy they gave us a whole 60 second break!
leaden thunder
silver marten
LOL
rain garden
silver marten
silver marten
im pretty sure this is a bugged thing
neon dirge
wdym
vocal ore
That's a 4th Bridge slot, which doesn't exist yet.
silver marten
yeah i know
also
the daily today is just to extract from 3 successful missions and we took that personally
we just absolutely clutched 3 level 7 missions in a row AND got the super samples each time
rain garden
Why all the country emotes 
silver marten
probably because they disable external emotes
and most people are like "hey im from X" and then others follow brainlessly
silver marten
im pretty sure this is a bugged thing
awww i cant actually use this
it wont let me purchase it
neon dirge
It's for when they introduce a massive multi crew tank (please please please)
silver marten
(please please please)
maybe!
that is somewhat vague
maybe ill be able to get it for free tho?
thanks to this bug
probably not
lost blade
we gotta finish this order because i'm pretty sure at the current rate we might just barely not make it
i think we will but it'll be pretty close actually
ebon cipher
The companion app estimates that we will have Hellmire liberated in just over 7 hours, so we should be fine, assuming we maintain our current rate of attack.
lost blade
fire tornados i swear
ebon cipher
Oh, hey, funny you should say that.
That's what I was repeatedly muttering to myself while lying prone for ~3 minutes next to a S.E.A.F. artillery emplacement engulfed in flames, waiting for the fire to die down so I can have a four-second interaction with the terminal to complete the objective.
lost blade
holy crap the fire tornado spawned on the extraction platform as we were about to leave
lost blade
we lost like 6 reinforces because it kept dropping the entire squad into fire tornados
lost blade
the real hell is trying to evac civilians and they just run into them
scarlet burrow
Civilians are great. It gives the bugs something to chase while you recover
lost blade
not when you lose requisition when they run into the fire
i mean it's not that much in the grand scheme of things but still
ebon cipher
I ran a defense evacuation mission once where my team lost ~21 civilians to a fire tornado that had ignited the ground right in front of the exit.
We lost over 500 requisition points, but it was absolutely hilarious, so I would argue that the mission was a net positive.
silver marten
silver marten
how could we ahve forseen this
also it seems i was incorrect about this being the illuminate
it was obvious the bots would come back but i genuinely wasnt expecting nan invasion fleet from outside the galaxy
lost blade
sadly i won't be able to defend tonight
i have a track meet
i could quit running to defend managed managed democracy
silver marten
quit running track to run headfirst into defending managed democracy! and a bile titan's maw!
rain garden
it was obvious the bots would come back but i genuinely wasnt expecting nan inva...
"Ah yes, Reapers."
eyes this helldivers gif, 
Oh this is absolute filth 
lost blade
we are not finishing this in 3 week days lmao
supple gazelle
I wonder if this is going to be a push that ends up going deep towards superearth
That would be fun
scarlet burrow
Maybe depending on how the defense goes
lost blade
That would be fun
treasonous me says that would be awesome
silver marten
i do want to see some urban environments, more built up spaces than prefab houses and shipping containers
ebon cipher
I am rather intrigued by the implications of the Automatons having a sizable force beyond the galactic rim. It's clear that the Automatons are related to the Cyborgs, who lost their sovereignty ~100 years ago, so I am very curious as to how the Automatons managed to grow widespread enough to have an extragalactic presence.
silver marten
they apparently originated on cyberstan? so that raises even more questions
scarlet burrow
I still say if any faction attacks earth first it will be the illuminate.
silver marten
i have no idea!
neon dirge
Unprovoked invasion lol
lost blade
yes
automatons have killed so many civilians
they're just evil unfeeling monsters
hopefully we can defend menkent
i think it'll be defended
we'll definitely lose chort bay
and a good chance we lose lesath
i'm expecting to only hold menkent
leaden thunder
rain garden
Rico's Roughnecks!
lost blade
https://vxtwitter.com/photoshop_gy/status/1777728152652935451?s=46 it fits too perfectly
scarlet burrow
What would be Really fun is if the terminids and the robots attack earth simultaneously and we get 1 vs 1 vs 1 maps.
silver marten
that would unironically be cool
vocal marten
an idea i hatched earlier today would be like mass liberation missions that have 3 teams of 4 doing their own objectives or they could team up to tackle one at a time, plus there could be a massive 12-super-destroyer stratagem one-time laser blast that covers the distance of 2 hellbombs
that might be too ambitious lol just thought it was a fun and unique idea
silver marten
well it would be cool if prepping ICBMs for other divers to use was a thing
or for you to use on a second mission
silk pebble
i have just a few medals 
silver marten
Yeah lol, i had like 3 major orders come at once, not including daily
But there's a new carbon coming soon so I'm saving them up
silk pebble
Im also saving mine
silk pebble
I have like 225 now
scarlet burrow
Im grinding for samples now
silk pebble
Im gonna buy some super credits when the next warbond comes out
lost blade
so have they seized 2 planets?
and we're gonna lose even more
we need to try to hold menkent, matar bay, and vernen wells
i somehow doubt
scarlet burrow
@silver marten you maybe on to something
Some urban style reports were added with the bot invasion so we maybe getting city/suburb maps soon
silver marten
Neat
scarlet burrow
Twitter
rain garden
lost blade
Twitter
rain garden
lost blade
well only be able to defend vernen wells
we're gonna lose menkent and matar bay
actually vernen wells is questionable
scarlet burrow
Yeah the bots are not happy
silver marten
lost blade
we'll probably lose menkent on friday tbh unless thats the one we focus on holding
that should be the one we try to hold though right?
ebon cipher
Liberty's strongest soldier.
ebon cipher
that should be the one we try to hold though right?
If we successfully defend a planet higher in a chain of supply lines, does that halt any invasion farther down the chain? I don't actually know how that works.
For either case, if we take a look at the supply lines:
If defending a planet higher in the chain does help us with other planets lower in the chain, then Menkent isn't a bad choice.
If it doesn't, then we should probably focus on Vernen Wells, as it will give us a jumping-off point to retake the other planets.
scarlet burrow
Tip for anyone needing samples
Do the civilian evacuation missions on defend planets (the 15 min ones) and instead of doing the objective just run and collect samples until the emergency evacuation auto calls in
Maps are smaller and resources are bundled closer so its easier and faster to gather them.
ebon cipher
Do the civilian evacuation missions on defend planets (the 15 min ones) and inst...
Would that not hinder the war effort? I thought that a failed mission sets back the liberation percentage of a planet by a certain amount.
I could be misinterpreting how the war mechanics work, though, so if that is the case then this sounds like a good strategy.
scarlet burrow
Not sure. But this is more about finishing your ship upgrades than the war effort.
Plus. The way those missions is work. Enemies will spawn on only one designated player. Meaning if you got a group. They can go around doing the mission or getting samples while you get chased
ebon cipher
Ah, so you can have one player distracting the bots while the others complete the objective and gather samples?
That's rather clever, actually. I wasn't aware that those missions worked that way.
silver marten
all missons work that way
they only call in reinforcements so often, and if one player triggers them on the other side of the map, they cant bother everyone else
localisation confusion booster increases the time between those calls too, making enemies spawn less often
ebon cipher
Oh, my brain just processed that we were talking about those evacuation missions where you have to actually travel to the site on foot, and the spawns work the same way as every other mission. I was thinking of the scientist evacuation missions, where reinforcements continuously spawn. My mistake.
rain garden
Would be fun to have a supersoldier serum buff. With loads of side/negative effects too but for a brief moment you are a god 
lost blade
If defending a planet higher in the chain *does* help us with other planets lowe...
i actually meant vernen wells to focus on i got them mixed up, but im not sure if defending higher in the supply line would work
leaden thunder
lost blade
omg i'm literally 26 xp away from level 15 so i have to wait another game for the orbital laser and 500kg
lost blade
i saw a tweet from a month ago asking for pvp
idk what they're talking about sometimes this game feels like pvp
silver marten
They're never adding pvp. It would objectively ruin the game.
lost blade
guys when is super mario wonder adding an rpg mode
omg lmao
i looked at the comments on fortunate son
look for yourself
that's like a good 1/3 of the comments
ok maybe that's a slight exaggeration but still
rain garden
silk pebble
That's treason
silver marten
jagged crypt
bug oil. 'gems. BOMBS? you want it? its yours my friend! as long as you have enough medals!
fallen ridge
haha is that a CD-i zelda reference?
jagged crypt
yes
leaden thunder
silver marten
...yes, this is 2 days old news now
lost blade
well we defended vernen wells at least
supple gazelle
As a big recoiless rifle simp, this is a must
Gotta grind those 15 samples sooner or later
silver marten
yeah thats a really fun loooking boost
tho 15 samples... oof
that aint happening
leaden thunder
silver marten
15 super samples tho
i tried a level 7 earlier
they're really hard, i couldnt imagine doing an 8 or 9
leaden thunder
Mega doing hell dive run when
silver marten
never
scarlet burrow
Gotta get a group that knows what their doing
Also from experience. certain missions work better than others
hushed sundial
The higher difficulties really require everyone to be able to stay alive and be able to do things independently without a team. It ties into the thing where there can only be one reinforcement going at a time, so one person might be dealing with hell while everyone else is able to cruise through objectives.
leaden thunder
Sacrifices must be made 
scarlet burrow
leaden thunder
https://fxtwitter.com/helldivers2/status/1778408232869892378?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJ...
#1211024704396328970 message
scarlet burrow
Hiya
leaden thunder
vocal marten
im not really sure how we can beat back the automatons, theyre coming down HARD on the planets we're trying to defend, and we still need to liberate terminid planets, but if we direct more support there we risk losing more planets on the opposite side. its a hard situation we're faced with, even harder than taking out the automatons previously, but if we plan carefully slowly but surely we'll win
hushed sundial
The Termicide should keep them contained to the sectors they are currently in. The people who only fight bugs are the new Creekers.
scarlet burrow
The bugs are pretty much contained. The robots are the bigger concern
silver marten
im not really sure how we can beat back the automatons, theyre coming down HARD ...
id say its impossible for us to beat back the current invasion
but we will win over time
silver marten
Cheater
Also yes I want that but cheater
What's that bottom middle one? Don't recognise the symbol
hushed sundial
I think it opens a submenu with the different strategems. Bottom middle would open all turret drops.
silver marten
Oh that would be the symbol
scarlet burrow
lost blade
id say its impossible for us to beat back the current invasion
yeah this is clearly not meant to actually let us win
jagged crypt
https://x.com/helldiversalert/status/1778401923852538101?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEk...
MORE FIRE DAMAGE RRAAAAAAH
lost blade
should i dedicate my mile tomorrow to super earth?
i'll turn the tide by doing that
for morale's sake
you better hope i get sub 4:50
lost blade
we're actually failing at vernen wells
lost blade
number 2 is funnier especially considering i died 3 times on the tutorial
so i'll go with that
i mean it's definitely number 1 but let me believe it's number 2
lost blade
As a big recoiless rifle simp, this is a must
apparently that one is bugged rn so don't buy it
maybe it takes 8 weeks to work
silk pebble
so i bought 150 super credits but it said the transaction failed so i tried again and it said it failed again so i got no super credits but then when i went onto steam the money i had spent was still gone
i sent an email to arrowheads customer support about it. hopefully it can be fixed
fallen ridge
yeah damn, hopefully that gets fixed ASAP
silver marten
so i bought 150 super credits but it said the transaction failed so i tried agai...
Oh damn, that sucks
Yeah that sounds like a simple fix tho, steam should be able to refund you if arrowhead cant
vocal ore
Give it a few days. Probably not the only one. Just be kind and truthful.
rain garden
Yep. A polite email/ticket might get you some leeway compared to a screaming one
lost blade
and now the bugs are attacking
lost blade
New major order: "The Automaton advance must be halted. Establish and hold the Menkent Line to allow establishment of orbital defenses." Menkent and Lesath must be under Super Earth control
4 days to do that
rain garden
silver marten
fucking love that game
subtle cloud
silk pebble
i still dont have my fucking super credits
leaden thunder
silver marten
its one of the weaker primary options i agree but i still like it
rain garden
silver marten
that actually kinda sucks ngl
abstract cape
Thematically I will say, it makes sense.
The lack of individuality is kinda the point. Unless you're mismatching armors, (
) then usually all armor is very uniform
Or a brand advertisement, as that one blue pre-order armor is
scarlet burrow
Really the only thing id like is a male and female armor models
fallen ridge
why would they be any different though? the armor needs to do the same job
scarlet burrow
just cause.
neon dirge
I would like if they let us change some of the colors at least.
But I get why they wouldn't.
abstract cape
I want some blue armor. And more importantly, multiple armor effects as opposed to just one
Example
silver marten
i mean
helmet and cape effects would be the logical thing tbh
abstract cape
They definitely could be part of it. There really isn't a lot of reasons to focus on sets or specific capes and stuff if you just have the armor and a helmet that matches well enough.
I considered set bonuses for a second, but I've changed my mind on that already. It defeats the purpose of customization if you had to wear full sets to get better stats.
silver marten
well yes, but im just thinking that you could have medic capes that give the increased stim duration effect
that way you could have les stims but better ones, and likewise you could wear the armour to get more, but regular stims, and wear both to max boost them
abstract cape
Oh yeah, that definitely works. Way more incentive to purchase capes in warbonds.
silver marten
im not sure what you could do with helmets, maybe minor things like increased armour
passive zoom or somehting
abstract cape
The reddit thing I posted mentioned an in-built targetting computer that increases aiming stats
silver marten
yeah, thats one helmet
what about the other 20?
anyway its not like arrowhead is here
and if they are, hi! thats awesome! but... why are you here?
abstract cape
Ooh, medical helmets, what if you had a better way to track where team mates are getting injured? IE: You can see right away if someone's leg or arm is broken, so you can go and stim them if they dont have or want to waste a stim without asking
crisp sable
I really want a helmet that helps spears lock on when the target is out of sight
the main advantage of spears should be indirect fire
silver marten
man-portable mortars would be cool
abstract cape
I'd love portable mortars
silver marten
laser designated weapons would be fun
player 1 paints a target, player 2 uses a spear
or some other weapon
silver marten
support stratagems that required multiple players would also be fun, like dropping down a bigger artillery cannon that then requires someone to use a second strategem to target a spot on the ground
like the SEAF artillery but smaller and summonable
abstract cape
I can't wait for them to add the multi-personel vehicles
silver marten
also that
abstract cape
I'd like my ship's name to be more fitting, since "stallion of war" indicates that I specialize in cavalry, in which only the mech fits the role atm
crisp sable
it feels like a miss that the only real team work stuff involves helping the other guy load his gun
it's just not that fun
ebon cipher
So, I decided to try my first Helldive mission last night.
abstract cape
Can you believe some people can do this solo? And not only that, get a good rating at the end?
I wish I was those people
silver marten
stelth
abstract cape
Suppressed guns will be a godsend in the future
silver marten
indeed
hushed sundial
Helldive on bugs isn't horrible, but Helldive on bots is insanity
gritty sundial
bots be like how much screen shaking and laser rave party do you want
neon dirge
Helldive on bugs isn't horrible, but Helldive on bots is insanity
I've found the opposite, I always have a hard time with bugs on Helldiver.
lost blade
tf
lost blade
whoever decided to drop the team right next to the sauron eye
that was a great idea
also whoever kept throwing airstrikes right where reinforcements were coming in that was great
lost blade
im gonna play bugs now because bots are making me go insane
i need a relaxing experience
silver marten
bugs are relaxing?
lost blade
i just don't have to deal with rockets there
lost blade
actually i'm gonna watch starship troopers
crisp sable
I find fighting bugs is better because I can be reasonably assured that most of my bullets will actually do something
scarlet burrow
Chargers and bile titans are really the only major concerns with bugs.
Everything else usually goes down in a few slugger rounds or gatling turret
supple gazelle
You say that, but the horde can be pretty hard to deal with, especially when it's 85% hunters assholes and two bile spewrs that situate themselves in the worst possible spot every time
supple gazelle
Yeah that helps, but in that case the chargers and bile titans are more of a problem.
That said you aren't meant to counter everything by yourself
silver marten
Team based game for a reason
Also strategems
supple gazelle
Can you believe some people can do this solo? And not only that, get a good rati...
This dude: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ugSV_myF8c
Actually
He has a new video with the new crossbow
Edited with that one
jagged crypt
Stealth as an actual, fully supported way of playing ghe game would be great
Like armor that makes you more difficult to find and whatnot
supple gazelle
There is already a boost that does that I think
Also in stealth playthrough, the armor slot is already taken by the one that shows you the enemies around your ping
The scout armor
Since knowing where enemies are is kind of neecessary for stealth
silver marten
They are working on stealth equipment
lost blade
bots are attacking menkent again
crisp sable
the in game messages says terminids
scarlet burrow
Hear me out
What if we make this a tier 9 boss mission 
https://x.com/helldiversalert/status/1779515730238591396?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ
Twitter
silk pebble
I still dont have my super credits
scarlet burrow
Its the weekend. You probably wont hear until monday
silk pebble
Yeah maybe
lost blade
the in game messages says terminids
yeah it screwed up at first but it's bots
i noticed that too
scarlet burrow
Twitter
lost blade
i'm finally actually watching starship troopers
i wanted to destroy my TV when i saw the bugs
rrrrrrr i hate bugs
i hate them so much
crisp sable
cowboy hats when
abstract cape
https://fxtwitter.com/Helldivers2HQ/status/1779608063093162005
I'd love my Democracy Officer to be preston
I love the guy
lost blade
noooo the bugs blew up buenos aires
Twitter
nice
omg the reporter was suggesting that the humans provoked the bugs
vaporize that guy
rain garden
lost blade
ngl the federation forces are crap when i compare them to the superior super earth ones
we didn't absolutely fumble a planetary invasion before
malevalon creek was just a really hard battle but we were competent
supple gazelle
I feel like sending barely trained 18 years old to die by the millions instead of a professional army counts as a fumble even if you win
Super Earth seems like wins despite itself, especially when most of the problems it's fighting seems like they created
lost blade
⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
also i'm pretty sure the casualty ratio in starship troopers for their initial invasion was much worse than for super earth
also the federation lost a very large amount of ships to bug orbital defense
silk pebble
I feel like sending barely trained 18 years old to die by the millions instead o...
We gotta get them into the battlefield young
" Happy seventh birthday Timmy, time to go to war!"
neon dirge
Tbf the book Federation each soldier is more powerful than a Helldiver.
They have jetpacks and mechanized armor with rockets, mini-nukes and other insane stuff I'm probably forgetting.
silk pebble
We have mini nukes. Its called the 500kg bombs
lost blade
also mini nuke artillery
silk pebble
Oh yeah true
silk pebble
i think i did pretty good in this match
abstract cape
ngl the federation forces are crap when i compare them to the superior super ear...
Another point against the federation. They fully supported fascism and were anti-democracy. Managed Democracy is where its at.
lost blade
very true
scarlet burrow
lost blade
"guys idk if i'm the only one getting this impression but this war seems... kinda unwinnable and it just seems like an industrial meatgrinder"
-My traitorous friend
don't worry he's gone now
yes it might be a meatgrinder... FOR THEM
as it says in mission
HELLDIVERS NEVER DIE
idk it seems like the amount of treason i hear has been increasing lately
ebon cipher
The bots are probably setting up broadcasting centers on the planets that they are currently illegally occupying.
I'm sure the treason levels will decrease back down to zero once we get rid of all those pesky illegal broadcasts.
compact cipher
Huh. Apparently my mission was one of the last ones that bumped Menkent up to 100% liberated
Neat
hushed sundial
Can't wait until Joel makes us defend it again tomorrow
compact cipher
That whole sector is clear now
vocal ore
Nice
lost blade
Huh. Apparently my mission was one of the last ones that bumped Menkent up to 10...
it was probably all you
compact cipher
it was probably all you
Wait for real?
lost blade
will it increase your morale if i say yes?
compact cipher
True patriots tell the truth at all times
lost blade
well true patriots also understand that if lies are needed to accomplish a goal it is necessary
scarlet burrow
Wow both planets are liberated and were pushing back
Sure hope theres no surpises
scarlet burrow
Guess this art is canon now https://x.com/helldivers2/status/1779878966880244086?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ
Twitter
scarlet burrow
compact cipher
Dope
vocal ore
Looks like a giant Spot.
supple gazelle
yesterday I did this on lower difficulty solo because I wanted to gauge how durable this thing is
I think it took like 10 spear rockets from a safe distance to bring it down
Maybe a couple less
Still, it can take a beating
leaden thunder
vocal marten
https://fxtwitter.com/helldivers2/status/1780580012481012107?
daaang that looks sick
compact cipher
On 7-9 they can be called in as reinforcements by bots <:hannahDespair:933230020...
ffffuuuuUUUUUUUCCKK
Hulks are already bad enough
vocal ore
Orb Railgun is a one and done with those, regardless of type (fuck the flamer and missile ones).
compact cipher
But I'm level 15 and don't have that
supple gazelle
Recoiless is pretty good if you can stomach the reload time
And can afford to sacrifice the backpack slot
Some brave/insane people I have seen using the jetpack to try to get behind them and shoot the weak point, with mixed results
I don't know at which level you get access to quasar
vocal ore
Orb isn't enough for those. I haven't fought them, but have heard that it does take a few heavy weapons to put them down.
EATs and grenades can help in the meantime.
scarlet burrow
silk pebble
i disconnected while wating for the extract in my last game. we had 14 fucking rare samples and i disconnected
crisp sable
rip
leaden thunder
silver marten
MOJOR ORDER
vocal ore
I didn't realize that they had that many bugs in their code.
crisp sable
finally a major order that I can do
silver marten
omg the explosive pistol is amazing
lost blade
mmmm can't wait to fight on hellmire again oh boy i love fire tornadoes
leaden thunder
silver marten
lol
crisp sable
my life for SUPER EARTH
lost blade
major order finished?
scarlet burrow
major order finished?
The bots were held back mango. Now they want us to kill bugs for oil
crisp sable
that order is also done
lost blade
that's what i was referring to
fast furnace
Reminder: never let me near anything that shoots fire, shoots lightning, or shoots things that go kaboom.
silver marten
Yes.
scarlet burrow
Update. We got the bug oil order finished in less that 24 hours
compact cipher
https://fxtwitter.com/helldivers2hq/status/1781042516135153800?
Just hit it head-on with an AC at distance, never need to go near it
scarlet burrow
As in were attacking or being attacked?
hushed sundial
An impossible order replacing the cakewalk, a true Joel moment.
lost blade
As in were attacking or being attacked?
being attacked
5 planets are under attack
major order is hold 10 planets in 5 days
scarlet burrow
Finally. A worthy opponent
leaden thunder
lost blade
my solution to this
fallen ridge
Hellbomb my beloved
compact cipher
<a:0diver2_Ani500KG:1225964978813534278> my solution to this
I have not yet met a problem a 500kg strike wouldn't take care of
scarlet burrow
The factory walker on lvl 9 would like a word with you
silver marten
i used to be a member of the church of ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️
but honestly i find ⬆️➡️⬇️➡️ to just be a better all-round stratagem
compact cipher
Gotta upgrade the AOE
silver marten
i dont think you can upgrade eagle aoe, only orbital aoe
also whats everyone's ship names? because im pretty sure im winning
fallen ridge
haha nice choice, I think I went with "Sovreign of Twilight" For mine
abstract cape
The emote just being named foundingfather makes it ten times funnier 
scarlet burrow
neon dirge
I did Halo of Freedom.
abstract cape
Stallion of War for me
ebon cipher
"SES Elected Representative of Family Values", at your service.
My goal was to use the longest and most obnoxious name possible.
silver marten
lol
jagged crypt
also whats everyone's ship names? because im pretty sure im winning
This is my ships name too 
silver marten
lol
jagged crypt
lol
abstract cape
lol
scarlet burrow
Twitter
lost blade
oshaune will be very close
lost blade
https://x.com/helldivers2/status/1781654532428112080?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgM...
forgive me if this is treason but maybe our troops should focus on the bots due to them being a much bigger threat to super earth?
compact cipher
The bugs are just as much of a threat to Super Earth
lost blade
the bots are of more immediate concern though
compact cipher
Meh
lost blade
the bots are now attacking into the ymir sector with an assault on meissa
and are attacking vernen wells
the bugs are assaulting estanu and fori prime
hushed sundial
There should still be a sector full of termicide containing the bugs in theory
silver marten
yeah but im pretty sure the termicide doesnt work or they will adapt to it
we know it caused them to mutate flying bugs
lost blade
termicide is 100% effective and has no side effects in humans
vocal marten
honored to say i was part of the last percent team to liberate estanu
that’s never happened to me before
vocal marten
honored to say i was part of the last percent team to liberate estanu<:flutterya...
…and it needs defending again. thanks joel
lost blade
what happens if a planet gets surrounded
hushed sundial
Nothing if it is a defense planet, the enemy continues their offense and we can still lose the planet. If it is a planet being liberated, we get cut off and can no longer deploy on operations to that planet.
fallen ridge
haha that's awesome
scarlet burrow
Cant win every battle
silk pebble
We lost fifteen planets 
hushed sundial
There's a very good chance we lose several sectors of planets. The defense mechanic is bad in general and it is likely intentional to prolong the overall campaign.
scarlet burrow
Its great for farming samples at least
compact cipher
https://youtube.com/shorts/gd1f7E_FQqA
Ngl that's actually a really good way to describe phonk
rain garden
silver marten
lol
compact cipher
abstract cape
ebon cipher
Grave tidings from the Automaton front, divers.
The bots are immortal now.
compact cipher
Sometimes they get bugged, yeah. The word you're looking for is "invulnerable". Immortal means they live forever, which I think they already do if you don't scrap them.
ebon cipher
Ah, I see. Thank you kindly for the clarification; I must have misread the Democratic Dictionary.
rain garden
silk pebble
The Eruptor in the new warbond is really good. It can take out a concentrated group of small bugs with a single shot. It can also destroy bug holes with a single shot
lost blade
just another marvel of superior super earth technology
silver marten
The Eruptor in the new warbond is really good. It can take out a concentrated gr...
It's really good, but very slow
If you're gonna use it, bring a stalwart with you fir close quaters
compact cipher
All worlds under Super Earth control are strategically important, citizen.
supple gazelle
I kinda got addicted to shield + smg
supple gazelle
It's so fun against bots
silver marten
it is honestly pretty great
till you explode and drop the sheild
again
i do with there were more 1 handed weapons
supple gazelle
Can't wait until I unlock the grenade pistol, that's a grat addition to that build
silver marten
they did last time i used it, that was after the buff
maybe i need to use it again
i generally use the energy sheild nowdays tho
supple gazelle
I think I dropped it once but it's a lot rarer, I think it wes a melee hit from one of t big duders that made it happen
The annoying bit is that you do put away your shield to stim
And have to swap weapons to take it back out
supple gazelle
It's still kind of awesome even with that tho
crisp sable
I hope it's kind of useful
as much as I like the idea of the mech, it explodes too easily and doesn't seem to have a meaningful purpose
for a vehicle to be useful, the maps probably need to be bigger
lost blade
it seems like the bots are pushing more south now
silver marten
The mech is great in most situations
Less good against bots as they have ranged weapons, but its great vs bugs
neon dirge
Mech would be better if the cooldown was shorter.
silk pebble
compact cipher
Jesus christ those comments are a disaster
silk pebble
I didn't even look at them. I just thought the post was funny
abstract cape
https://vxtwitter.com/helldivers2/status/1782514028062912790?t=J-m_dI-zzDfbsjHzH...
Also, I wanna express how much I want this armor. I love the blue and white design with the helldiver armor. It's a pre-order item so I cant get it 
I wasnt very aware of helldivers before HD2, so I didnt have much reason to pre-order
scarlet burrow
Baby blue armor looks cute
compact cipher
ebon cipher
Missed opportunity for that tip to read "Don't drink and dive".
leaden thunder
lost blade
Twitter
jagged crypt
what were the ODDS that i would decide to check my stats, and come across this
gonna sell my account for 400,000 dollars
scarlet burrow
compact cipher
The boot sound is slightly off-tempo from the animation 
rain garden
I was expecting Hellmarch to play. My disappointment is immeasurable.
jagged crypt
havent been playing helldivers
i dont trust my fellow helldivers enough to want to do so
compact cipher
Look
All I'm saying is, it's not my fault people walk in front of me when I'm charging up a quasar
silk pebble
So many people have done that to me. I totally haven't done it to anyone
vocal ore
People don't understand firing lanes.
jagged crypt
i've had people just outright grief me a lot
shoot my patriot with a missile, melee me away from a drop pod then take the stuff in the pod, people have called air strikes right on top of the group, stuff like that
jagged crypt
i always seem to attract bad apples
silk pebble
Ive barely ran into griefers
silver marten
I don't play with randos
silk pebble
I always play with randoms
lost blade
first time i get a bug where i wont reinforce no matter how many strategems they throw
second time my internet cuts out mid game
third time it crashes in game
crisp sable
earlier today I helldove into a defend mission where, for some reason, the rockets never took off
compact cipher
When I play with randos I like to play easier difficulties so I get to carry
When I play with friends I'm being carried lol
lost blade
vocal ore
scarlet burrow
Yay lunchtime
vocal ore
crisp sable
Nice
fallen ridge
oh good
rain garden
fallen ridge
hahah amazing
lost blade
https://i.redd.it/jxig0xk77nwc1.jpeg
i swear i was on level 7 and it was ridiculous idk what that would be on level 9
hushed sundial
Factory Strider hell. You get multiples and everyone is throwing every stratagems they have just to kill one.
scarlet burrow
Twitter
compact cipher
Lol are they literally calling r/Helldivers out as in-universe propaganda??
scarlet burrow
I think it was more the theory people had that eagle pilots were modified to have their arms and legs amputated to compensate for gforce
I remember back in the day they had a similar theory for star fox based on the first games manual
lost blade
i'm pretty sure body augmentation would be very strictly banned
fallen ridge
well we know some prosthetics are ok, given the Steeled Veterans war-bond
lost blade
did they only do it after getting injured though?
fallen ridge
aye, it seems to be that way.
hearty sage
Twitter
fast furnace
never again, PLEASE
Taking out the rotary guns on the face make it a lot easier to engage. Three AMR shots will neutralize them. Just beware of the cannon.
compact cipher
Get an AC turret high up
lost blade
oh btw if you aren't on penta im disabling your PC
vocal marten
https://vxtwitter.com/helldivers2/status/1783831163317989858?s=46
we don’t need any more mines after the millions of unnecessary teamkills they’ve already caused
scarlet burrow
AT mines seems helpful for defense missions against tank bots and chargers and bile titans
The airburst seems help ful in similar format plus gunships and flyers
silver marten
its honestly a bit of a tossup
scarlet burrow
Either way ill be fine
silver marten
but flyers right now are a fucking nightmare so probably best go for that
scarlet burrow
Bug flyers are a lot easier to deal with compared to gunships at least
But yeah ill just pick a planet and work on it
crisp sable
the problem with airburst, if it is anti air, is that if you end up on a map with no fliers you've wasted a slot
silver marten
an airburs could be pretty good against weaker enemies tho
like the stalwart
which i use often, because its great vs hoards of weaker enemies
also AP mines have the same problem, best used on armoured targets but thats only if the armoured target walks over the mines
scarlet burrow
the problem with airburst, if it is anti air, is that if you end up on a map wit...
Assuming it has a dumb fire mode. It could still be used as rocket launcher
scarlet burrow
Twitter
hearty sage
absolute chad [in my last mission] went down tri-wielding a machine gun, grenade launcher, and an arc thrower
from the helldivers chat in one of my other servers
silver marten
lol
silver marten
Means we need to liberate the supply planets first
rain garden
scarlet burrow
Twitter
silver marten
...do they know how blatent that is?
silver marten
oh we unlocked airbust already?
silk pebble
I got the orbital laser. Its extremely good
silver marten
it is
bu its limited in number of uses
so you gotta choose what missions to take it on, its not good for longer missions
silk pebble
I took out a whole artillery site with one
silk pebble
it is
bu its limited in number of uses
Oh
silver marten
you only get 3 per mission with a 6 min cooldown
silk pebble
I didn't know that
silver marten
dont get me wrong, i still take it on many missions
crisp sable
the biggest value of the laser is that it aims itself
I wish the eagle would aim itself better
supple gazelle
The rocket pods have a bit of aim
And also are really really good
Especially against bots
You have 3 casts and they can oneshot tanks if well aimed
I was skeptical but I am very much a fan now
silver marten
Rocket pods?
supple gazelle
Eagle 110MM rocket pods
silver marten
Oh
Yeah they're a very solid choice
But tbh the Eagle airstrike is just too good for an all purpose use
supple gazelle
It largely depends what I'm running in the other slots
supple gazelle
But yeah, usually I bring both the airstrike and the pods, unless my kit is lacking in solutions to either hordes or heavy enemies
I stopped bringing the 500k and I bring the pods now against bots
silver marten
I usually bring railcannon or laser fir dealing with big targets
Airstrike almost always
Depends on the mission
supple gazelle
I did a few runs with the heavy machinegun and it's suprisingly good against hulks close range
combined with stun grenades so they don't murder you
It's why I started running pods, I needed a solution to tanks specifically
silver marten
I don't like the hmg
I would like to like it but I just cant
supple gazelle
The trick is that you don't aim down sight
silver marten
I guess
supple gazelle
It's like 10 times more precise to just spray
silver marten
It does feel like it should have a longer scope
supple gazelle
Also if I bring it I do bring one of the armor with recoil reduction
silver marten
Opoh yeah that would do it
supple gazelle
It's like, a big ask to make it work, and it's definitely not for everyone
Also it's a close to mid range loadout so you kinda have to charge in and murderise, and that is sometimes a problem if your team is big on artillery
fast furnace
https://x.com/helldiversmedia/status/1784199782329946416?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEk...
Do they not even know?
hushed sundial
They most likely do know and are doing it as a joke, and it guarantees some foot traffic because it is popular.
vocal ore
supple gazelle
dude, read the thread before sending something that is literally already on the screen
seriously, this becomes just spam @leaden thunder
leaden thunder
dude, read the thread before sending something that is literally already on the ...
Oh I didn’t see that sorry I’ve just woken up
fallen ridge
This isn't the first time though...
leaden thunder
I know and mobile discord doesn’t show you the full screen but I’ll keep it in mind 
leaden thunder
What does everyone’s Helldiver look like?
abstract cape
I'm wearing the last set of the first war bond
Got that vague imperial officer drip
scarlet burrow
silver marten
lol
abstract cape
Oh dear, this is going to be a headache
The airburst rockets are exceedingly good at team killing
silver marten
they really are!
supple gazelle
I think they are kind of bugged which is a large part of the problem
Hopefully they fix them
leaden thunder
New patch https://ow.ly/KpxO50Rqrj4
scarlet burrow
Lot of weapon rebalancing this patch
silver marten
Yeah
The big change is the increased patrols spawns for less than 4 divers tho tbh
That and the extra 5 second cooldown on the quazar
leaden thunder
crisp sable
they might as well just delete the quaser, good grief
silver marten
the quazar was too useful compared to the eat and recoiless
abstract cape
I actually thought the quasar was pretty fairly balanced. It's not something you want to rely on, but it's a rechargable cannon. The downside of it is the fact that it's rather unreliable for shooting smaller targets that require a good heavy hit, like the heavy devastators. And it's not really as reliable to use as the EAT and Recoilless due the charge when it's ready to fire.
crisp sable
the quazar was too useful compared to the eat and recoiless
this really sounds like a eat and recoiless problem
silver marten
yes and no
the eat and recoilless work fine, and exactly as intended
but the quazar is an unlimited ammo rocket launcher with no projectile arc or backpack
abstract cape
I always take EAT regardless if I take a recoilless or quasar, due to it helping the team as a whole.
silver marten
its downside was the charge time and cooldown time
abstract cape
but the quazar is an unlimited ammo rocket launcher with no projectile arc or ba...
Ooh that's an interesting idea
silver marten
EATs are god
abstract cape
Maybe the quasar should get a big battery backpack for it to work at peak efficiency? Or for it to work at all?
I wouldn't mind changing out a shield for balance reasons
silver marten
i think the current extended chargetime needs to be tested properly before i can comment
i do think that backpack weapons, as a whole, are really underpowered
crisp sable
I mean, that's kind of my point
silver marten
having a shield, rover, supply pack or jetpack is just worth so much more than the autocannon or recoilless in my opinion
crisp sable
Like, the Quasar, as it was, was kind of a shitty weapon. It takes too long to fire and can't be immediately refired after, if you miss. But it had massive advantages over other similar anti tank weapons because it didn't take up your backpack slot and (in a sense) autoreloaded
silver marten
thats why i considered it to be too strong
abstract cape
I used to agree with that, but after getting into more fights with hulks, I love carrying around AC and Recoilless. And part of why I feel the quasar can't measure up well in comparison.
crisp sable
But this isn't a problem with the gun itself, but the fact that losing that backpack slot to ammo makes these other weapons kind of suck
silver marten
eats require a small amount of forward planning and recoilless required your backpack
quazar requires you to stay on target, and if you scre up, you maintain full mobility and can switch to another weapon to keep shooting other targets
eats require you to stop and call new ones in, or find your stash
recoilless requires you to stop and reload, or have an ally with a backpack reload
i still like recoilless mind
its satisfying to fire
supple gazelle
As I see it, quasar is better in bugs scenarios, even with 5 seconds longer cooldown
abstract cape
The quasar does a lot of things for free, but the other AT weapons does it faster and more efficiently. Taking out big fuck-off objectives at long range for example (shrieker nests and spore spewers)
silver marten
quazar is great on the bot dropships
supple gazelle
Vs bots it happens too often that I get shot during charge time and the shot goes fuck knows where
silver marten
oh quazar is best at spore and shreiker, it has unlimited range and no bullet drop
supple gazelle
I would rather eats or autocannon vs bots
abstract cape
The AC is essential against those big tower obj's. Two shots for each. (Especially when they spawn like right next to each other in the shrieker nests)
silver marten
autocannon is great against bots, i agree
its trash against bugs tbh
bugs either have no armour or all the armour
crisp sable
still no spear fix either
silver marten
spear isnt worth talking about
i havent tried using the airburst enough to judge how good it is
abstract cape
It is since it needs a fix regardless I'd say
supple gazelle
Spear isn't that bad, it's mostly usable, I do wish the lock on was more reliable for sure
silver marten
its RoF is too slow and lock on too unreliable
supple gazelle
Rate on fire is fine given what it's meant to do
abstract cape
I wanted to try it out on saturday, couls not get any lock-ons for the life of me (that mattered). It locks on to small targets like the striders very easily, but you usually aren't using the spear on walker striders.
silver marten
yeah but its not strong enough to do what its meant to do lol
eats do the same job better because they can hit weakpoints
leaden thunder
What level is Everypony?
silver marten
50 now
abstract cape
42, Star Marshal
supple gazelle
I think 38
supple gazelle
Yes, and destroying fabricators
crisp sable
also the reload time is fine, you usually can get the thing 75% reloaded by the time your missile hits the target if you start the reload as soon as you fire
supple gazelle
If they did fix the lock on I would definitely bring it in some missions
crisp sable
I also discovered that you can hold down the fire button and it'll fire as soon as it has lock, so you don't have to worry about the lock going on and off like it does
silver marten
if the lockon was reliable i'd be using it way more, hard agree
especially vs bots
crisp sable
imo I think a big problem with it vs bots is that it'll try to lock onto striders
abstract cape
I wish the lock-on worked on the bugs, because if it did, I was never able to get one
Bile titans are massive, great for a spear to lock onto, but that's a nope
supple gazelle
I must say tho, since I started using the rocket pods, the heavy target problem has been largely solved
crisp sable
the thing with the spear is that it only locks onto vehicle flavored enemies
supple gazelle
I was sleeping so hard on that stratagem
silver marten
yeah i just use strategems on big targets now
crisp sable
and for bugs, I think that's only chargers, stalkers and bile titans atm
silver marten
the spear locks onto bile titans? lol, literally never does for me
supple gazelle
There is also the dudes that keep attacking you if you destroy the heads
Locks on them too
crisp sable
apparently the bug is that the spear needs to see the full enemey
so
you know
it struggles to see the full bile titan that's leg is behind a rock
abstract cape
I've tried to use the spear against all three- and stalkers? Excuse me? 
But the lock-on is so bugged out, you can't use it on any of those enemies. Besides I guess the charger.
leaden thunder
Do you think the devs should and a shooting range/course to let you test new weapons to see if they are good for the build you have?
abstract cape
I think that'd be nice
supple gazelle
They should definitely have that, yeah
leaden thunder
And you can choose what enemies spawn
supple gazelle
Spawning enemies I don't know, it would be funnier I'd they had cardboard cutouts
leaden thunder
silver marten
i would love a shooting range style thing, areed
leaden thunder
Except the bile titan is a lifesize one
abstract cape
I wish they'd fix the crashing problem that people are having. I'm not the one crashing mind you, but I only play with friends and the game does not want any of them to play
silver marten
they've fixed a lot of those today
abstract cape
They've had a lot of patch notes that says that they fixed that issue, but it doesn't seem to work every time. I just hope this is the one that fixes those key ones.
abstract cape
One of my friends is getting ever more frustrated with the game because of that, and it makes me both pissed off and sad. It sucks when someone isn't enjoying the game as much as you, and the fact that it's entirely out of their control.
supple gazelle
Now I can actually test it
scarlet burrow
Twitter
lost blade
leaden thunder
crisp sable
thank you Arrowhead,very cool
scarlet burrow
Just like the simulation
silver marten
99 little bugs in the code
99 little bugs in the code
Take one down, patch it around
127 little bugs in the code
abstract cape
leaden thunder
leaden thunder
abstract cape
We definitely called it
silver marten
i just got a friend request from 24 days ago
scarlet burrow
It's jurassic park all over again
Please no. I dont want dinosaur bugs
leaden thunder
leaden thunder
fast furnace
https://fxtwitter.com/helldiversmedia/status/1785071433867276753?
Oh geez, that’s reminds me of that one scene where Twi had her bolt reflected back at her.
leaden thunder
compact cipher
https://fxtwitter.com/helldiversmedia/status/1785071433867276753?
Yeah this is what I was afraid of. This change is awful
silver marten
Wait what
I'm pretty sure that's a bug
compact cipher
From the patch log
- Shots that ricochet from heavy armored enemies will now properly hit the Helldiver who fired them. Trigger discipline is highly recommended.
leaden thunder
Yeah this is what I was afraid of. This change is awful
Wonder how long it’ll be until they revert it
scarlet burrow
From the patch log
> - Shots that ricochet from heavy armored enemies will now p...
They want you to use the sniper now
Sniper is a guaranteed one shot to the head now
leaden thunder
vocal ore
OP is one of the Community Managers (Associate technically). Both of those posts goes into detail about a specific thing mentioned in the title, either as a correction/clarification or something they have noticed and commented on.
silver marten
yes that was just posted
scarlet burrow
Ah. Didnt know since it was a reddit link my bad
crisp sable
well
the game's completely unplayable now
I'm getting like 2 fps
did the game even patch today?
compact cipher
....huh
It looks like they disabled the ability to manually set the display scaling
It's making my framerate tank too
crisp sable
really?
compact cipher
There used to be a slider, the slider is gone
crisp sable
rip
scarlet burrow
Maybe a bug might wanna ask
silver marten
i saw
i hate it
supple gazelle
You can still kinda see them but it's so much harder now
scarlet burrow
Twitter
silver marten
fallen ridge
damn I still haven't decided what warbond to get, but this clip makes me want to get the revolver
silver marten
What are your choices
fallen ridge
all three really
Though less the electricity one as the weapons don't seem that good apart from the sickle
The explosive guns just got nerfed
and the adjudicator got not much of a buff
but the Steeled Veterans weapons are kind of.. OK
silver marten
Okay so
This is just my opinion, and that opinion was formed before the recent balancing
All the warbonds have good weapons in them, and are worth using, but the sickle is the best all round assault rifle. It recently got nerfed, so don't take it to hot planets, but it's still well worth it.
The revolver is fun, and a great medium armour penetrative sidearm, and the soeedloader buff helps considerably, but the (arguably) best side arm is the grenade pistol. Because its a grenade pistol.
The only booster that's worth talking about in the warnonds is the localisation one, because that one means less enemies spawning, the others are too underwhelming or situational to be worth using over the base warbonds boosters
None of the packs are bad, they all have good, fun weapons to use that will shake up your playstyle and give you more options. I'd probably recommend the sickle, the arc shotgun in that pack got a significant boost making it way better now too, and it's the only way to get electricity resistant armour, which is great if someone else is using electricity weapons
fallen ridge
fair enough, thanks for the ideas
crisp sable
I think the cutting edge bond is a must. The sickle is insanely good
if you're careful with the heat, you never have to change the ICE
silver marten
Indeed
fallen ridge
yeah, I know it's really good, it's just that I don't like the look of it I guess. the Blitzer looks and sounds fun though. and the arc resistant armour means I could run tesla towers for fun and not instantly die
i'm watching this now to see the changes in action
silver marten
In general I agree with the buffs and nerfs to weapons
The adjudicator is still meh though
It's a better medium armour penetrative assault rifle than the liberator one though
silver marten
It's the reason to use it
You won't regret picking any of the warbonds though
There's good, and less good, in all of them
fallen ridge
mmm I guess I'll just wait till the next warbond and see if that's more interesting. Hopefully by then I'll have a better idea if I want one of the first three warbonds as well
silver marten
https://fxtwitter.com/helldivers2/status/1786004289908801929 well what a coincidence reina, you wont have long to wait at all
vocal ore
New submachine gun and the impact fire grenade sound awesome.
silver marten
yeah i was commenting the other day how SMGs are an underutilised weapon type
vocal ore
There's only one of them, but that will be fixed soon.
I do have some hope for the new Plasma Thrower near the end there.
vocal ore
Ah
silver marten
It's faster firing but lower damage per shot
Tbh I generally use my smg as a carbine, on single shot
compact cipher
What
hearty sage
Dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane
silver marten
I don't get it
compact cipher
Bug spray
hearty sage
Dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane, aka DDT, is an insecticide
silver marten
Aaaah
compact cipher
I got my precious frames back
fallen ridge
oh they fixed it?
vocal ore
I haven't made one yet and I skip whenever they ask.
compact cipher
It's becoming compulsory. Read the latest update
As such, as of May 6th, all new HELLDIVERS 2 players on Steam will be required to connect their Steam account to a PlayStation Network account. Current players on Steam will start to see the mandatory login from May 30th and will be required to have linked a Steam and PlayStation Network account by June 4th.
vocal ore
I missed that. It was issued this evening.
hearty sage
Twitter
scarlet burrow
Yeah. If your in a nation that PSN is banned. Apply for a refund
Personally i just made a throwaway account on a burner email 
supple gazelle
I expect them to walk it back if they can
They might not, depending what kind of agreements they got with Sony
scarlet burrow
This was probably something forced by sony i imagine
supple gazelle
I don't know that
I expect it is something they might have agreed upon, IDK if forced is the right word
scarlet burrow
Thats just a guess though on my part
supple gazelle
I mean I don't really care, I'm playing
I already had an account anyway
But it does suck
crisp sable
the PR is pretty bad, particularly given the most recent patch and misleading statements like the idea that the spear fix would be soon
scarlet burrow
It will probably take a dip for a bit but i dont see this killing it
Especially if rumors of an xbox port turn out to be true
silver marten
forcing you to have an account post-launch is probably illegal though, like they tried with forcing a facebook account for the quest
supple gazelle
I really doubt that
scarlet burrow
forcing you to have an account post-launch is probably illegal though, like they...
It was on the steam page before release so that front was covered
supple gazelle
Even if it wasn't I assume it was in the TOS, besides even if it wasn't I'd have to see them losing that case to believe it
scarlet burrow
Maybe its just me being desensitized to it from years of Ubisoft, EA and activison doing it to me already
silver marten
It was on the steam page before release so that front was covered
thats true
scarlet burrow
Occasionally microsoft for things like MCC
supple gazelle
Regardless of legality tho, we'll see if it's part of their contractual obligation or not in a few days.
If it isn't they will 100% reverse it, if it is it'll stay.
vocal ore
I'll wait and see if Sony gives in. Folks will point to Grounded and Sea of Thieves for the MSFT comparison, but both of those demanded that upfront (SoT also started on consoles, which required a XBL/MSFT account to begin with).
silver marten
so the thing is that it was
i was forced on launch to sign up, and they suspended it temporarily because of technical reasons
and it's been on the steam page:
vocal ore
I was able to skip it twice. I legit tried the first time and it failed to work.
That stated, there is no special reason to enforce it now. If it took this long to get it "fixed" and things work fine, there is no need.
Sony also has a history of data breaches and network issues.
silver marten
theres never a need for these things
its presumably contractually obligated by sony
vocal ore
I'm sure they want all the data they can from it, especially with their kernel-level program running.
The studio needs to make it clear what it thinks about this and whether or not they agree with this move months after the fact. Sony will lose money for sure if it continues, but that studio might get its legs cut out and end up on the pile of dead devs, like their friends that were making KSP2.
This also makes it harder for folks on XBL to maybe get in one day. Sony already does not like playing with those folks on their games and fights to prevent it.
This came right as they're about to release that new Warbond too, which generally brings people back, along with a semi-serious MO.
silver marten
oh i agree its fucking stupid
supple gazelle
theres never a *need* for these things
its presumably contractually obligated by...
IDK there might be a reason they structured it this way indipendently than sony.
like the fact that for a month after launch there were a ton of problems with people seeing each other in friend list and all that stuff might be precipitated by the fact that this system wasn't in place from the get go
I have no actual idea
vocal ore
The friend system worked for me for about a week and then failed. I had to basically unprivate my steam account to make it work again.
The other fun kicker are regions that the game was sold in (like Russia for example) that PSN accounts for banned for. They're SOL in about a month.
scarlet burrow
Yeah. Thats where steam refund should he mandatory
vocal ore
scarlet burrow
Yep. Called it
supple gazelle
I love this tweet: https://fxtwitter.com/Pilestedt/status/1786417563628437933
"Please harass our publisher for us"