#Ace Attorney

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plain gorge
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damn this music rocks, really an epic track. they definitely deserve it though, damn

lone wraith
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10 As, it is indeed AA5

plain gorge
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sorry im really enjoying this game again if you cant tell lol

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man case 2 was rough though

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it was easier as it was the second time i'd done it, but... damn

lone wraith
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Yeah 123 trilogy(PW trilogy) is overall better than 456 trilogy(AJ trilogy), but AJ trilogy is still decent games

plain gorge
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4 was still pretty great, tho i understand why a lot of folks didnt like pheonix losing his badge and being unemployed for 7 years

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this one has been fun, tho the cases have all been... very confusing, so many moving parts in a 10 or 20 min window, every time, i swear

lone wraith
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The problem with 4 was that it was placed right after 3 and then it took like 6 years until 5

plain gorge
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yep

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5 is a very different game

lone wraith
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in vacuum it was decent, and as the first game of trilogy it works fine

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decent, decent...? idk it was a fine game

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I heard 6 is very highly praised

plain gorge
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i aint there yet

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5 is a suprisingly big game, theres like 20 cases here

lone wraith
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Yeah i'm just hyping rdwut

plain gorge
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i've actually had 6 installed on my phone for a few years now, i downloaded the AA games via google play while i was homeless (i was bored out of my mind) but case 2 on AA was such an... experience, i couldnt bare to continue

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i dont know why i bought these remasters again on steam but im glad im did, im enjoying this game a lot now

lone wraith
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Still waiting for 7 copingway

plain gorge
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i do have to make a complaint about this plot point tho: ||why the fuck didnt athena mention that the opposing prosecutor was the guy who (apparently) killed her mother? thats a little detail that would have probably slipped out at some point, come on||

lone wraith
plain gorge
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||and both the previous defendant and this one were both unconscious? really?||

plain gorge
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ok i was using spoilers for ixrec

wind cape
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i didn't notice it was spoilered, apologies

plain gorge
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that is 100% perfect and funny, i love it

plain gorge
# wind cape i didn't notice it was spoilered, apologies

i left the main prosecutor and detective unspoiled because they're not much of a spoiler, but everything post day one of case 2 was a real spoiler, so they're spoilered
dont want to spoil ix's fun when he eventually gets to this game

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but i did wanna talk about it, figured you would be around at some point bringi

lone wraith
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You're currently at ep...5, right?

plain gorge
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i honestly dont know

lone wraith
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Yeah you're at AA5 ep5

lone wraith
plain gorge
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i refuse to accept this otherwise well-made story game to have plot points that resolve in a neat way

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(it is nice to see the plot points i was complaining about back in case 2 resolving, but man they were rough at the time)

lone wraith
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Yeah AA sometimes just throw something so wild that makes players very confused then later resolve it

plain gorge
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i do love the ||symbology of the phone ringtones, pheonix's is the same as always, apollo's is his mothers song, tho he doesnt know it still...||

wind cape
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i honestly dont remember details of aa games at this point pawnk it has been a long time. i do remember really liking athena stuff, which you'll be gettin around to shortly

plain gorge
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i probably will! ||about to start her trial right now, in the ruined courtroom apparently. odd choice||

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symbolic tho

wind cape
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the point is to be cool

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which it is, to be fair

plain gorge
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it is

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oh her name is pronounces like psychs? i always mentally read it as kikes
damn you writers

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oh right, thats a slur lol

lone wraith
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Don't blame writers, they didn't name her in English sunsetsmirk

plain gorge
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(i should remind folks not to use the word k'ke as that will get you bapped by the bot)

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her name is Athena Cykes
i just read the c as a hard C, like in cream, and the y as an i, like in thyme

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but a soft c and an actual y makes more sense

lone wraith
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Her Japanese name is much more straightforward

plain gorge
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thank you cutscene for telling me how to pronounce it

lone wraith
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But I always appreciate how hard they tried while localizing/translating

plain gorge
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also fuck you custscene for the pun, i was happier not knowing >:(

wind cape
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she is the defacto therapist attorney, i always liked that pun

plain gorge
lone wraith
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Eat your hamburger, Apollo

plain gorge
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but yes they did a spectacular job translating

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captured the feel of the game perfectly

abstract iris
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if I'm the only one in the thread who hasn't played the AJs I could just leave for a while

plain gorge
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ill stop playing the trilogy after dual destinies

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then we can maybe play somewhat together for the last one

plain gorge
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that is the single most terrifying image i've ever seen

plain gorge
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this one comes close!

plain gorge
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ok ome done with this game's final case
what a fuckin wild ride
that final case ROCKED

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im so glad i pushed through case 2, man the rest of this game was amazing

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plain gorge
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i decided to start spirit of justice, i need a new game to play

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pfff i love this optional outfit

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...not technically the worst one i've seen, but pretty bad

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||what the fuck? 10 guys with guns for one kid? tad overkill||

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of all the things i've claimed to be the most scary in these games, this would honestly be the scariest
||some angry guy with an automatic rifle||

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nope thats scarier

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||winston fukken payne
well not winston probably, a distant relative||

plain gorge
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wait i just got this pun
fuck you AA writers
fuck you
this is the worst one
that includes dustin prints and fukken hugh mann

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||Phoenix walks into a foreign country and takes up a defence case in like an hour of being here
never mind that the laws are obviously different, that the justice system is different, that the defendant has already been judged guilty...||

plain gorge
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i am shaping up to like this game tho

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yeah im liking this game so far
weird but fun

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the DC law is fun lol
tad extreme but just a tad more weight to each case lol

plain gorge
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||oh wow, testimony to song? thats awesome||

plain gorge
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oooh this is goood

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great first case

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but its uh, 2am
so i should probably sleep

plain gorge
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case two!
||whoever that cameraman is SUCKS at his job, missed literally every important detail lol||

plain gorge
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this poster screams ||"we added this guy later"
he's got a totally different outfit and outfit style to the others
i kinda dont like that, i wish his getup was more consistent with them||

plain gorge
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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aww, she made it! yay
im genuinely happy to see that

plain gorge
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absolute gem of a character, always love interacting with them. i hope we get to see them in every case and not just this one!

plain gorge
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||hey wait, thats the same symbol from phoenix's hat in the 4th game. it was a special camera there, is this the same brand of camera?
the number mason, what to they mean???||

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||nuuu, they made the dusting for prints limited! i cant just pour all the dust i want on screen anymore, that was the fun bit!||

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||oh actually you get loads. nvm.||

plain gorge
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these fucking names, my god
at least this one is intentional i suppose

plain gorge
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i hate this game (affectionately)

plain gorge
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one thing i genuinely dont like about these games is how openly hostile the prosecutors are to the defence
like
its just a job for both parties, yet the prosecutors are allowed to verbally assault phoenix's crew, often, with no remorse
and its not limited to verbal assaults, godot threw boiling hot coffee at pheonix, von karma used an actual whip on not just phoenix but the police force, the older manfred von karma literally tazed phoenix and maya in the police station, blackquill ||threatened to kill multiple times and had a trained bird literally attack apollo,|| and this latest prosecutor is just the most openly vile dude i've met, ||constantly berating and harassing the defence with just plain mean and hurtful personal attack after personal attack, for really no reason. well ok, i know the reason, but that only holds true in his home country, not in japanese american court.||
edgeworth looks like a saint compared to most of phoenix's enemies.

lone wraith
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aa4 unironically having one of the most gentle prosecutors

plain gorge
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yes! hes actually a professional

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actually respects apollo

plain gorge
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also this new prosecutor is ||as dense as a brick sometimes. the wright anything agency has proved to him, on multiple occasions, that sometimes innocent people get arrested, yet he insists that the defence are all scum who deserve to die for the crime of defending people.
the bit was fine once, maybe twice, kinda old now tho. its genuinely very vile, and uncomfortable to sit though. especially as he keeps poking at, as he himself describes, a kid. (im doing the 4th case with athena rn)||

abstract iris
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not that that makes it any less uncomfortable

plain gorge
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well so
every prosecutor has a reason for it, in their own way.
edgeworth is a pompous asshole before phoenix knocks some sense back into him
manfred is a murderer
franzisca has a bunch of issues too complicated to get into, and a personal grudge against phoenix
godot has a very personal grudge that gets resolve. he's not a bad guy, not really, just a damaged one.
blackquill is... thats just a barrel of worms. it does get resolved, more or less. ||he's not a bad guy, just on death row and doesnt really care anymore.||
but this current guy? like, theres definitely story and history there, its also blatantly going to be resolved, but as he is for the last 3 cases, ||hes just a genuinely vile man who seems to believe everything he's saying as absolute truth, despite the fact the real truth has been blasted into his face with the full force of apollo's lungs of steel, and a hearty objection from phoenix. ||
the cases are really good too, but at the same time, it really feels that sometimes the writing has slackened. i know the contradiction, but its not the right contradiction right now, you gotta get more statements first or something. not often, but sometimes, and while that happened in past games, it feels like its happening more here, and its more obvious

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am i enjoying this game? yeah

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i am

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its great

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but i think it has more flaws than the first 3

plain gorge
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WHY THE FUCK ||IS A KNOWN TERRORIST SHOWING UP IN JAPAN AMERICA, HOW DID HE GET HERE, HOW DID HE GET INTO THE OFFICE WITHOUT BEING ARRESTED ON THE SPOT
WHAT||

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||there are SO MANY THING I WANT TO SAY HERE
but most of them can be summed up as "oh for fucks sake"||
this case better shape up

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ok i love the references here, ||the gravy stained portrait of misty fey, the many times broken and now painted sacred urn...||

plain gorge
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this case is shaping up, ill grant you
its probably gonna be a good case, i just didnt like the idea of ||a wanted terrorist showing up out of the blue like that. very silly.||

plain gorge
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OH
OK
NOW SHIT'S GETTING REAL
nice

plain gorge
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this is the best line in this game, any of these games... good god i love how dumb it is

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i retract my previous statement.
THIS is the best line in any AA game.

plain gorge
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||man maya gets kidnapped a lot...
literal definition of damsel in distress, christ||

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good case! i am enjoying this game
i know i bitched about it earlier, and i have complaints, but its a really good game still, and im having fun with it
but for now its definitely sleepy time

plain gorge
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what an amazing scene, i love it

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also this new case is pretty great but im pretty sure i already figured it out

plain gorge
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oh
oh wow
ok i did NOT see that plot twist, good gravy
thats a good one
||the ex-queen is still alive, im pretty sure she's been nanya this whole time||

plain gorge
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dont worry, im not a criminal, honest. ||i only prosecuted over the case of my dead sister, accused the defence of using false evidence and then rose to power because of that
no im not evil at all||

...its a fantastic outfit tho, ngl

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what a bitch tho, good god

plain gorge
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she really is a right and proper bitch, jesus christ

plain gorge
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wait wait wait wait
did i get it wrong? is she the killer?

plain gorge
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oh oh no i was right the first time
obviously
||i thought they were trying to pull a dalia on us||

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YO WHAT

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this case is literally just "MAJOR PLOT TWIST" every 30 seconds, goddamn

plain gorge
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what a sad case...

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its an amazing one, but damn...

plain gorge
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i adored that last case

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im on the special case now

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...wait did i miss any special cases in the last games?

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i missed a PIRATE themed one in the last game????

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ill have to do that later

abstract iris
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wait, how do you miss a whole case

plain gorge
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the game doesnt automatically progress to the next case when its the special cases it seems

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4 only had 4 cases, the others a few more

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apparently

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probably because the special cases are insane, i doubt pheonix would really be involved in actual piracy with wooden boats and shit, no idea whats actually in that case aside from the titlecard tho

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im doing the 6ths game's case first tho

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plain gorge
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im really glad i powered though the 5th game's second case tho, the rest of the series has been fantastic

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tho i've had legit complaints

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its not flawless

wind cape
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i dont like the one from og triology in that restaurant, im just really not feeling it. its even worse than turnabout big top

plain gorge
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nah bigtop was worse

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way worse

wind cape
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counterpoint: victor kudo

plain gorge
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a youtuber i watch, RT game, played through the game and his comments about don Tigre being everyone were just really funny, it makes the case much better for me these days

wind cape
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second counterpoint: fanservice of waitress maya-mia

plain gorge
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victor is annoying but he's hardly the worst witness we've had

wind cape
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meeeh thats relative

plain gorge
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agreed

wind cape
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sure im aware sal manella exists but

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eugh

plain gorge
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honestly i barely notice victor when you have very noticeable personalities like the chef and don tigre, and godot

wind cape
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lucky you penk

plain gorge
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an old man liking maid outfits is not really that weird

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not compared to the fucking clown

lone wraith
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The biggest issue with the restaurant episode is that it is in aa3

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the aa3

wind cape
lone wraith
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mod abuse

plain gorge
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What's a little mod abuse when we can do a lotta mod abuse instead?

plain gorge
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That's adorable

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All edgeworth normally gets is criminal charges

plain gorge
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this is perfect

plain gorge
wind cape
plain gorge
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this is the single most important event in AA lore

wind cape
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i love you inappropriate caramelldansen

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the grin really sells it for me

abstract iris
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god I was so happy when I figured out ||where the 2nd bullet was|| derpyfacewing, it's so narratively perfect and in-character dumb at the same time

wind cape
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augh and then the incredible choice in jfa ||where franziska gets shot in the other dang shoulder to hammer in their mirroring similarities (just like theyve been doing with the spritework), but hers is taken out immediately which accentuates their differences up to that point (like her meticulously going through the cases chasing every crack to pulverize it and achieve perfection, where her papa shuts down anything not supporting his vision and has everything preplanned down to a time limit in court), and how edgeworth was there for both cases but where he injures manfred he´s the one to insist franziska is rushed to the hospital and-||

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i have been thinking about how much i adore farewell my turnabout again lately

plain gorge
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the trouble with franziska is that she was doing it to "beat" pheonix, not to do her fucking job
her job is to find the criminal

abstract iris
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I still can't believe Manfred ||tampered with the bird witness||; it's so rare that a story describes a character as impeccably over-prepared and then actually shows it when the cards are on the table

plain gorge
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yeah, that was fucking wild

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its one of many reasons we love AA tho

wind cape
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sprite worthy expression frankly

plain gorge
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Lol

wind cape
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its that time of x year cycles where i get the urge to replay the whole dang series. they really have me trained by now. turnabout sisters ballad playing for 0.03 seconds combined with

???
"Mia! What's up? You haven't called in a while."

and my chest wants to explode. ough. ough i say

plain gorge
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would you be willing to stream playing the games?

wind cape
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no, i dont have streamin setup for switch

plain gorge
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oh right switch

wind cape
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finished first four cases. truly inconcievable how they made somethin this good in six months. the fact they expected this to be a one off game..... im glad we got a franchise out of it, but even if it was just this one little visual novel im convinced ppl would still remember it twenty years later

plain gorge
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wait, 6 month dev cycle?

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seriously?

wind cape
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yeah, six months and like, 8 ppl total, that's how they made the original gba version

plain gorge
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Goddamn

wind cape
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essentialy shu takumi's "what if lawyer game" kept getting met with "noone would play that, how do you make lawyering not boring, people wouldnt even give it a chance". that changed when he did well on some other capcom game who's name i currently forgot and takumi's boss went "okay, you did well and we need fresh ideas. you have six months and small team to make whatever you want and we'll publish it"

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so they do and, oops its reception is popular, lets make it a triology actually. and, oh would you look at that, still popular, lets make some more-

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at least thats what i remember offhand about development history, mightve gotten some details or orders of event wrong

plain gorge
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Lol

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Amazing

plain gorge
wind cape
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i always forget just how damn frustrating rotating the jar™ is in rise from the ashes. im at attempt.... 15ish? and the game just aaaaaaint doin it. stupid ass extremely specific angle with no damn wiggle room

plain gorge
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yeah its really dumb

wind cape
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is this the worst "puzzle" in the entire series not to b dramatic but it deadass might be

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at least they dont impose penalty on u thank god

plain gorge
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its not the worst puzzle, its the dumbest and finickiest
at least you have unlimited retries

wind cape
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yeah but at this point of blue badger song loop id almost rather take game over lmao

plain gorge
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ok thats fair

wind cape
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incredible how i always manage to wipe this part from my memory of the case

plain gorge
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its a defence mechanism

wind cape
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not to mention the investigation parts in this one. steel samurai case had it too but i think this one has even more frantic jumping around between locations n gettin stuck on "what was i supposed to present to this character to finally move this along". granted thats a series wide thing we all been known but man it feels especially pronounced here

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whispers do it for the lana n ema stuff cmon bringi

plain gorge
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lana and ema are absolute gems

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its a genuine shame we dont see lana in later games

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honestly its a shame we dont get gumshoe in later games, post AA trilogy that is, no mention of him at all

wind cape
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yeah the insistence of new trilogy to try divorce itself from old triology is a writing decision im not particularly happy with, but what can ya do

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oh finallyyyyyy that legit took like ten minutes

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the fact game gives you this dialogue afterwards.....

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"miracle" ur ass im in pain

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i legit think this mightve been made worse in the hd port, i could swear it wasnt that hard in og ds triology

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then again when did i last play og ds version, in like. 2014.

plain gorge
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it fucking sucked on DS too

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i do strongly remeber that on DS

wind cape
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oof

wind cape
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so i had some other stuff to do in between but im finally wrapping things up, and maaan this line stinks in hindsight penk

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edgeworth is everyone's blorbo for a reason but he makes such shit, hurtful choices at times. bruh bud u had it all laid out in front of ya ||and ya still chose to do the whole letter stunt||

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smh my head

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(yes yes i know the whole meta reasoning edgeworth is kept aside in second game, this is moreso poking at him. i do think its a great storytelling choice, who doesnt love conflict)

plain gorge
plain gorge
wind cape
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..... its incredible given how many times ive replayed these but i just realized Dustin Prince (bet ya dont remember that name lmao. he´s the victim in aa2-1) is "dusting prints" pun. because, because a cop-

plain gorge
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well you're not a native speaker

wind cape
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yea its kinda why puns remain funny to me, always fun to figure them out

abstract iris
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pun spotting skills also vary

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especially since some puns (in either language) are spelling-based and some are pronunciation-based so a lot of people will notice one or the other more easily

plain gorge
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it was Decades before i realised the home of the gods in Terry Pratchett's books, called Dunmanifestin, is really "done manifesting"

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clacks messages in later books gives you c-mail
that took me years to get as well

wind cape
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anyway back to like. one of my least favorite first cases ever. tgaa1´s infinite dragging is probably worse but the amnesia plot ponktired i just. eugh, an amnesia plot

plain gorge
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sorry what game is that? i dont recognise the code

abstract iris
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tgaa?

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ah, great ace attorney

plain gorge
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aaah

wind cape
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ya i fumbled

plain gorge
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not played that one

wind cape
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i enjoyed them a lot, my dear friend herlock sholmes is an absolute peak and u should play the duology just for him alone. the first two cases are admittedly. a weak start, but i think once u get past those the games really pick up

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and i dont think theyre as annoying the first time through

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though yeah the. the like, six hour long first case is, a choice thats painful first time thru still ponknothoughtsheadempty

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i just dont think we need a six hour tutorial for ace attorney penk

plain gorge
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oh damn is it really that long or just feels that long

wind cape
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i didnt state the lenght when i played them first time but i did call it "surprisingly long" penk

plain gorge
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thats practually the whole game for other AAs

wind cape
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to be somewhat charitable they are kinda setting up a lot, what with the whole being set in the past in a different country (actual japan? in MY japanifornia game??) and so on so forth, and its not like there isnt fun parts to delve into (we love you kazuma banter), its just that perhaps they couuuldve restructured the witnesses parts because some of those guys definitely didnt need to be there

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and combining it with the second case having a chronic feel of claustrophobia given theres like. what, three rooms? four? looking basically the same so u just hop in between constantly like youre doing steel samurai case day 2 on drugs. i know, we are on a boat, but come ooon. at least they introduced herlock there. herlock makes everything better penk

abstract iris
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man I did not have the steel samurai problems everyone else did

plain gorge
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the main case that suced was the big top case from aa2

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i also found the first case from the 5th game really rough

wind cape
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re:steel samurai, i swear i get stuck on the autograph-trading card part every time. every time!

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# plain gorge the main case that suced was the big top case from aa2

yeaaah. though personally i have larger issue with recipe for turnabout.

regarding big top, is the pedophilia bad? yes absolutely no question. the anime makes that case six million times better already just by cutting that part out. and i have a bone to pick with the mystery itself (how do you not see the rope. i can excuse the cape landing on the bust conveniently, but the rope apparently being invisible is too far for me).
but unlike a lot of ppl i honestly dont mind moe. probably because my humor is just that bad. i like the puns. and the scene where franziska reveals the edgeworth stuff because phoenix is one cagey bastard? excellent.

recipe for turnabout on the other hand has a pervert with maid fetish which we indulge him in with maya and mia because ????, a bad french gay stereotype, and i swear i forget the mystery and victim because its just that unmemorable. paper badge phoenix knockoff couldnt save it for me

abstract iris
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and i have a bone to pick with the mystery itself (how do you not see the rope. i can excuse the cape landing on the bust conveniently, but the rope apparently being invisible is too far for me)
yeah I'm pretty sure I got stuck in the trial part multiple times because the "correct" answer made less sense than some of the alternatives

plain gorge
wind cape
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ah, nah that part was meant regarding big top

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sorry, im mixin the two cases in different paragraphs

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lemme make it clearer what i meant

plain gorge
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oh fuck yeah you're right, the lion tamer is like 16 or something with two much older men wanting to marry her

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id forgotten that

abstract iris
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don't worry, we'll all forget it again in a few minutes

wind cape
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backing up to the first case, the one hilarious thing to me (besides the bananas) is this image. phoenix this is a courthouse, i know you think you're slaying but idk if ur allowed to lounge like this penk

abstract iris
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my gut feeling would be a) mostly, yes, that's part of what couches are for, b) if no one else wants to sit there, but also c) take your shoes off first rdsnrk

wind cape
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next time is pearl tiiiiime ppinkieverycontent i love pearl

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truly i am still not over gregson, my guy they didnt have to do that to ya

plain gorge
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who are these characters?

abstract iris
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something about the artstyle makes my brain process this as a Lady Normalgirl and Her Eunuch spinoff despite it obviously not being that

plain gorge
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lol

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oh these are characters from the great ace attorney chronicals, i have yet to play that

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i ahve it installed for well over a year but shh

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you know what? im gonna do that
right now

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oh i love the music, the song on the main title screen's got the AA beat underneath but the actual song is new

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hmmmmmmmm

abstract iris
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looks right to me lol

plain gorge
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why
just why
i mean, i love it, its amazing, but why

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im gonna give that guy his default outfit
at elast for one case

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ok while this text was being displayed, the sound was horrible
each letter sounded like a gunshot
i think its a typewriter, but damn, it was so loud

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why the sword and red bandanna? is he doing a suicide charge? hes apparently a lawyer

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oh nooooooooooooo

abstract iris
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yeah, I was about to say, in this time period my gut feeling is that the sword signifies "cop" more than anything else

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(I only played the original trilogy)

plain gorge
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this is actually japan btw
not japanifornia

abstract iris
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ok I guessed that right

plain gorge
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oh we may be going to america anyway
i dunno anything about this game
(im pretty sure its actually the uk we're eventually going to, based on the fact that we're meeting Sherlock Holmes i think)

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literally the next line lol

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its incredible how many roles this one actor has played in the AA franchise

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also this guy

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man politicas cant even escape my games
Smh my head
because the vicitim was an englishman, and as we all know, japan and england are strong allies during this clearly established time period, and theres a very real treaty that was only just sighed, japan really wants to arrest someone and my guy is a convenient scapegoat

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woke bullshit more like

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just wow

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ok so this witness is literally coughing up blood

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what

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he did it

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hes the killer

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wait, no corss examinaiton of the waiter? what?

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i take it back, this guy did it, hes the killer

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HOW IS THIS MAN ALIVE WITH A HEAD THAT NARROW
did he get stuck in a vice as a baby or something???

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oh wait
edgeworth and pheonix
thats why kazuma is in red, because hes a distant relation to edgy boy
this trial was supposed to make kazumas name but its gonna make my name instead, as a lawyer, even tho i dont have a law degree, because of bullshit circumstances lol

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roll credits

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ok this is bloody adorable

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theres a little animation of the kid blowing the fan

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thats cute

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so... not the hotti clinic?

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oooh i finally get to investigate evidence properly? i dont recall doing that since AA1's DLC case

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hey our boy is growing up! managed to say complete sentences with confidence! even slammed the desk rather than slapped it! (thats incredible attention to detail btw, this is a great game so far)

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hmmmmmm
||if the "waiter" (who, after looking at the business card he presented to court, is apparently a police inspector) has blood coming out of the side of his mouth, and the victim apparently went to the dentist and got a tooth removed, why do i get the feeling that the victim is not the victim?|| spoilering that because if im right thats a spoiler for who the actual killer is

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just a theory tho

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ryuonisuke is so naïve, its adorable

plain gorge
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ok thats clever

plain gorge
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oooh, this pursue mechanic is interesting

plain gorge
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ok that bit where i had to present evidence was bull
i knew where the problem was, but thought i couldnt interact with evidence in the present screen
you can, and indeed have to reveal the secret before presenting
annoying and unclear >:(

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christ this case needed like 13 different ways to get to the damn point that was bloody obvious 30 mins ago
||the plates were switched obviously, either by accident or intent i dont know yet, but that doesnt matter||

plain gorge
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this is the most insane statement in the entire case, ngl

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please dont murder anyone

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i mean, that was a great first case
but jesus christ the bit near the end with the fucking ||switched plates||... like yes we got the issue pretty fast, why are we spending ages proving it 4 different ways

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i didnt think it would be that long tho lol, its 3:18am

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sleep time XD

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oh i shall be waiting for these with great interest. tgaac can definitely have some rough patches but the peaks are soo peak and the characters, oh the charactersssss

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the stuff they do with music absolutely slaps (well the music itself slaps naturally, but the way its used is incredible, i loooove all the variations), my man herlock is in these and he's the most entertaining character of the franchise, truly you are in for a treat. .... aaaas long as you're willing to extend some goodwill for execution (but well thats the kinda "criticism" you can apply to investigation games or DD or SoJ ponknothoughtsheadempty and theyre not bad games in the slightest). the first two cases are arguably the weakest ones and you seem to have weathered the six million years long first case just fine so i have hope thumbs_up just push thru the second case's dragon age 2 issue of "help the environment is so damn samey" and we golden

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like it makes sense why the second case is like that, ||you are on a ship, but i really wish we got like, something more than "our room, hall, second room that's basically the same as ours". at least make use of the deck i swear, maybe the kitchen or something, i am getting claustrophobic here||

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still its herlock introduction case i cant be too mad at it

plain gorge
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Yeah i did enjoy that first case, lotta mystery that I suspect will be paid off later was set up
But daym it was rough near the end, that last bit really felt like artificial padding

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Also once you realise shat happened to the victim, jesus christ it was dark

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Oh but there were also like a bazillion red herrings in the case too, ||the fact anaesthetic was still wearing off could have excused the burn pain, the extra hidden glass could have contained poison, the detective having blood in his mouth in the same place youd expect the victim...||

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Oh

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||The girl complained that because the MC saw her at the table, she wasnt going to get a clean getaway, but like, all 3 witnesses, including a cop, were able to be threatened into silence. That doesbt make sense really||

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tgaac does a bunch of fun stuff with surprising you where the cases actually go. not in a sudden makes no sense swerve way, more in the "well, ive seen this trope countless times in other cases, now its going to- oh? huh? oh okay, didnt expect that, neat"

plain gorge
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Yeah, at the cost of spending 30 mins on an obvious switch

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admittedly iii was more so thinking about the later cases zippnervous into case couldve been cut by like, a third

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like we really didn't need second set of witnesses

plain gorge
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No while we didn't need them, it did explain the cop, and why the girl wasnt immediately arrested, and added context for a lot of the culturein japan at that time

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We didn't need them for round 2 however

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yeah thats probably what i meant, its been a while since i played so im kinda goin off of recollection of feelings and matching it to vague memory izzymediumsneaky

plain gorge
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next case!

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wow what in intro to herlock sholms

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also damn

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waking up in handcuffs

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how many times is the main protag, or friends of them, gonna be accused of murder? its literally once a game

plain gorge
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bitch!

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also i dont think ive seen people in any position other than standing straight up

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man its so easy to prove my innocence in 30 seconds, so why is this case even a thing

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jesus susato just destroyed evidence
there books knocked over in as specific pattern and she... fucking moved them
why

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is she the killer?

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the diseased left a diary! the last entry is half0finished! i must read it!
susato: literally commits assault to prevent that
ok shes the murderer

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shy did sholms magically teleport ontop of a table

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excuse me but im not watson

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im pretty sure this is another sherlock reference but goddamn hes a moron

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im not gonna like

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im really not liking this case

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the accusations are absurd, yeah, and if they were played for jokes it would be fine

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but susato believes that im somehow a Russian assassin with 16 kills because.. some crazy guy said so

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what

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like she actually belives this drivel

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ooooooh right hes chat gpt

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did he really just try to say that he has no memory of calling me the suspect? despite calling me the suspect several times? accusing me of being a russian revolutionary with 16 kills? what is with this guy

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the first time you see me i have a waiter's outfit therefore to save animation budget i must always have my arm half-raised

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even when it makes no sense

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so the victim had a fucking bodyguard and still died AND they all blame me

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this case sucks

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you're damn right you failed
what the hell

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im gonna take a break from this because damn that start was really really rough

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did not like it at all

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sholms is a moron, the girl is a moron, the sailors arent smart but they atleast have good cause to be actively hostile to me so i dont mind that
and the next door passsenger is obviously the culprit

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like blatently so

plain gorge
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im back on the case

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...boy it honestly sucks

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they're trying to be funny
they are not being funny

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wait i have to sort though sholms' deductions? i have to do his fucking job? let me guess, when im done, hes gonna claim that it was all him?

siiiiiiiiiiigh

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yeah this is worse than bigtop

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that was a low bar and they beat it

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christ

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i at least dont actively hate everyone in bigtop, just the clown

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this case everyones the damn clown

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we just barged into this russian guys room and started accusing him of being a revolutionary and kidnapper
man id be furious myself, closing the door, callingth guards
not to mention that when i entered, i was accused of murder and was wearing manacles

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...oh yeahh i didnt write it down but ||that the dude is obviously the girl running away with the crown thing||
dunno about whats in the case yet tho, im pretty sure it was a snake that killed the dead guy, and the case moved, so there could be a snek in it i guess

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christ you really have to guide sholms step by step

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why yes naturally ||nikolina pavlova was indeed kidnapping nikolina pavlova||, its obvious
christ sholms is a moron

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...why do i have to look slightly to the left to find the crime
like
its literally slightly to the left

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i know its supposed to be easy, but like, if it was under a sheet or something id understand
but no
literally slightly to the left

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if i was the mc i would not be putting up with this BS

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damn they took fucking ages to get to the damn point

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also

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fucking drama queens

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gotta say you're having a, significantly worse time than i with that case ponknothoughtsheadempty it wasnt great but i dont think it made me actively angry, just annoyed at the samey room situation. probably helps that i immediately found herlock funny

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i think i have the same problem with this game as i did the last AA game i played, they frontload you with bullshit characters but they smooth out as the game goes on and they all actually learn a thing or two

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if its any consolation i promise this is the low point? ponknothoughtsheadempty

plain gorge
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yeah you did mention

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and i loved the other games after the first case

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but this one is taking two cases to get to the less bad parts

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and that first case was very long

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i do feel lke there was a distinct shift in wirting style after aa...4? the first apollo game still felt like 1,2 and 3, but the more modern games have many weird and whacky characters and they're just annoying tbh
at least at first

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i guess that makes sense with such big gaps between games, tastes and writers change

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its mostly the team a team b thing

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yeah you mentioned this

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like the mystery is sound

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its good, im interested to find out what happened

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but theres so much bull on top... ugh

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yeah i hate this guy.

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like i wouldnt mind this tomfoolery... if the mc wasnt in chains because of his whack deductions like this

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ok so both the mc and the inspector had a heavy head
so the food was poisoned, probably with sleeping drugs
someone came in expecting to find the victim asleep
he was not
there was a struggle
he died
but was it assassination or a bungled robbery? why would someone assassinate a school kid visiting from japan? robbery is more likely in my opinion
lets see how right i am

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oh someone is singing? maybe its the ||ballerina girl...||

oh no its the detective. naturally.

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oh hes singing my way
but its the great detective way

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what an ass

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oh man everyone, sholms, the lady myself, the undercover cop... everyone has a throbbing headache!

probably unrelated.

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what

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air raid sirens???

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...OH FOR GODS SAKE ||THE DOOR CAN FUCKING BOLT ITSELF IF THE SHIP TILTS
WHICH IT DID LAST NIGHT APARENTLY||
this is a fact that the crew should already have known

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yeah i actually hate this case.

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"is there anyone who can help me out of this?"
scroll camera to the left

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really hate this case.

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ok thats new
i mean the snake was blatantly obvious but the fact they wrapped it around this guys head is new

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these great deductions are so sloooooow omg shut up sholmes get to the point

plain gorge
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again if you rotate the camera by a tiny amount you see incredibly obvious clues sholmes seemingly intentionally misses
i get that its a game mechanic and a tutorial one but its an obnoxious one
of there was a reason for sholmes to not notice these things, even as simple as a cloth over them, it would all make much more sense but as is, its frustrating

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oh for gods sake

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once again, im unaware you can interact with something and punished for it
apparently if you point out theres a picture with ||the lady holding a cat|| in it, you get punished, but if you zoom in on the picture its fine

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this is a UI issue more than anything, there really should be a clearer marker indicating when something is interactable and not just highlightable

plain gorge
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...theres no way he died by ||tripping over a cat, surely||

plain gorge
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aaaah iiinteresting, the girl ||was a member of the ships crew||
that explains a lot

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ok thats very funny lol, i thought the emergency stop was real but it was sholmes fucking about
thats good

plain gorge
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wow what a convoluted case

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it sucked

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all of it was pure chance

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this is worse than big top

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way worse

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such a sad case

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goddamn

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easilly bottom teir of cases in AA games, and its not even a competition

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naturally the least qualified man in the room would say this

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is this... love or masochism? wait those are the same thing, damn

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did not enjoy that case. at all. mystery sucked, motive sucked, people sucked, everything took too long to explain
damn
genuinely hated that

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this isnt a bit

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...alright i guess ill play the next case now
apparently its better

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not sure if funny or insulting that the supreme court is in big ben

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also the murder is apparently in a moving carrage with only 2 people in it? for the love of god if its a locked room mystery with the MC again, im gonna be mad

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thats based on the intro cutscene thing

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the alst one was wrong too tho so who knows

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he did it, hes the killer

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or A killer

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maybe the bbeg of this game

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ocd on display here folks

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my opinion hasnt changed
hes a killer

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ok thats a funny convo

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why do i get the feeling the book is fiction?

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huh i forgot electricity was a thing during this time, just being implemented

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this is fiiiiiiiiiine

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im suuuuure nothing will come about from this pact with the devil

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fuck sake
literally just get off the boat, 50 days of travelling, 15 of which in a cupboard, and im already assigned a murder trial
not a real lawyer btw, just to be clear

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like i said, deal with the devil

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its just that easy!

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again, no ominous vibes from this at all
none whatsoever

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i retract literally everything i just said. this is pretty reasonable actually.
theres literally no-one willing to defend this guy, except maybe me, someone whos not a lawyer, and if i dont, hes dead meat anyway
so using it as a test is actually not unreasonable
still shitty but still

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aaah classic bri'ish bobbys in classic bri'ish uniforms

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....willy wonka???
did one of the oompa-loompas take wonka's outfit and dye their hair and skin?

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so
hes edgeworth?
or franziska von karma?
honestly every time the prosecutor is "someone who's never lost" its hard to give a shit because everyone and their mums know im gonna beat him to a pulp
legally speaking that is

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whats the betting he uses forged evidence? or manipulates the witnesses or jury or whatever? some kind of cheating dirty bastard at any rate

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tbis is a nightmare scenario for a lawyer, goddamn

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wow thats ominous design

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judge santa!

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fucking vampire prosecution

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also

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same energy

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this is edgeiestworth

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i love how everyone describes japan as a tiny island nation
im pretty sure its bigger than the uk, but we are egotistical about our tiny island nation

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so anyway
i know nothing about the case right now, aside from it being a murder
but my current running theory is that the defendant is a criminal, not the nice rich guy persona he's putting on, but not the criminal in this case

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santa and his elves!

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man we actually have a jury! and not a token jury either like in AA4, thats never brought up again

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also second from the left is not here at all
vacant, unmoving stare

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also the guy in middle left with the knife is the killer

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im calling it now

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he has a fucking knife, in court for gods sake

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oh no...

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imagine your lawys saying "how does the court work again? i dont know, lets wing it"
id have a heart attack

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hes a fucking vampire! i called it!

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fuck off.

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i know these guys like their pun names, but this is worse than Hugh Mann

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brb

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not bruce wayne then?

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they brought an entire carrage into court?

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wow ok

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well...

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what a shock! the guy whos definitly the killer has his mind made up about the defendant on tril for the crome this guy definitly commited

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oh my bad thsy're doing some random bullshit

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apparently THEY'RE THROWING FIRE IN THE COURTROOM

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WHAT THE FUCL

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hmm, thats an impressive M

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or is it a W?????
for WONKA??????????

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(its definitely a W)

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i dont really remember most of the details anymore to comment, but its fun to see what ideas and theories of yours are correct or wrong

plain gorge
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ohno im wildly wrong

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uh

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uh

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it was,,,

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RYUNOSUKE! HES THE KILLER

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also what the fuck kiond of judical system has the jury pass judgement before hearing all the argumensts and seeing all the evidence?

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this isnt reality tv for gods sake

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# plain gorge RYUNOSUKE! HES THE KILLER

lmao you reminded me of when gummy played the triology so much rn. anytime he started floundering or even upon meeting a new character he'd go "yep that one's guilty for sure

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which tbf that meant he was always right somewhat izzywheeze

plain gorge
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oh im joking when i say this shit

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...mostly

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i have a lot of sus on the lord judge guy in the clock but then he actually shot back with an actually logical series of arguments as to why hed send a forgine law student to be a murder trial lawyer

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and that juror with a knife is sus as heck but i dont know when the real badguy witness will come out

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so he could be the killer, might not

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not enough info, im just wildly speculating for fun, having an open mind for the case

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so far its p good

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tho the jury system is bullshit

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oh he's unbiased for sure

plain gorge
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AAAAH HES DRINKING BLOOOOOOD

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plain gorge
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THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT ITS LIKE OMG

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WEIRD BULLSHIT LAW EXPLOIT TIME GO!

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why is UK law seen as so good when its literally the worst system yet?

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because the developers found an old-new way to extra bully your lawyer naturally

plain gorge
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fair

plain gorge
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i eman its good for gamepley i guess but the system is broken AF

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plain gorge
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i wonder if that was why the Japanese were brought over? to fix both systems??

plain gorge
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i retract my statment

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plain gorge
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i think hes polarising
you either love him or hate him

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hes the embodiment of ADHD
except when you're introduced to him, he accuses you of murdering your best friend
so
yeah

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so
reality TV again

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ok the juror thing makes for very neat gameplay

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its still stupid

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bring back speaking to the spirits of the dead, unlocking the secrets of peoples hearts with borrowed psychic powers and using insane powers of observation due to a magical unexplained material that reacts to body heat or something again! way more plausible

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what a creepy motherfucker
probably not the killer
in this trial at least
he did switch to not guilty after all

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(theres an animation of him licking his knif going on, be glad you cant see it)

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quick question did barok do ~the leg✨ yet

plain gorge
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who?

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oh barok is the prosecutor

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i genuinely read that as baron

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the fuck is a barok?

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no he has not done the leg thing yet

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he did just smash a glass of definitly not blood in his hand

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and threw his cloak across the room

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fiscking dramaqueen

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(im sayingfuck a lot but so far this case is like 10000% better than the last one)

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8/////////////////////////////////////////////////*////////ik8986666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666jjnhmmmmmm§-§§§§§§§

plain gorge
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hi cat

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right, thank you for the input brie, illuminating

plain gorge
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i wonder if something is wrong with this statement from beppo
its hard to tell
if only this man would maybe make even more exaggerated movements so i could read him better

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it would help if i knew how much a guinea was in modern currency ppenk

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this is pre-decimalised currency after all

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which is a weirdly recent thing here

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i think post ww2?

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witness: there was loads of blood on both his hands!
evidence: gloves with a little blood on one hand
witness: he was ungloved when there was blood!
prosecutor: there was no blood on his hands one the gloves were off

this doesnt seem important at all, no sir

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the bus was locked... from the inside... why was this not roguht up? goddamn

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hmmmmmmmmmmmm
where oh where could someone sit without being seen from above?
its a mystery

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ive gotta name the mystery passenger???

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...what the fuck

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why did someone throw a smokebomb in a trial???

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i assume a smoke bomb and not a real bomb, we already did that plotline

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ok it was a smokebomb, good

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no-one died

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probably

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this is AA

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who the fuck knows anymore

plain gorge
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oh for gods sake
detective lestrade is from the holmes books, is this his daughter or the replacement in this universe?

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ok so all of the jury say not guilty... this means the prosecutor is probably going to do the aooeal to the jury thing that i did earlier, right?

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plain gorge
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lol3

plain gorge
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bringi can i get a hint on this? im questioning ||the girl for the first time
im pretty sure the carriage is a trick carriage in some manner, that the floor can move and hide/reveal a hidden compartment or something
i know i saw stuff in the under-seat compartment before the smokebomb||
am i on the right track?

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oh i had to press every statement a second time

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heres the thing iw as missing

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oops, sorry didnt see the message ponknothoughtsheadempty i got inspired n picked back up my own playthrough

plain gorge
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lol

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oh! ||the skylight can likely be opened, i saw a latch on the outside when investigating the carrage, but couldnt investigate it for some reason
so the loud thump everyone heard was the body falling from the top to the bottom
he was already dead, or dying, at that point
thats when the defendant woke up and the girl was pulled from her hiding spot
that likely means someone up top was the killer
dont know who, might be all three are accomplices||

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ha called it

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annoying i couldnt investigate that soooner but whatever

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what on earth is this man doing

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i believe the term is fisticuffs

plain gorge
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hewas bouncing up and down and there was the sound of a horse
i actually thought the sound was that of an engine but it was horse

plain gorge
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oh for gods sake

plain gorge
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oh

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so

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thats the point of this game, huh?

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to fuck you over for having the audacity to belive in evidence

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alright

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the fuck is this?

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why are all these designs so whak?

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IrisCheer shes heeeeeeeere

plain gorge
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i love her music. its so bouncy bouncy bouncy bouncy

plain gorge
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oh and all the evidence has mysteriously disappeared in a puff of smoke
and by smoke i mean fire
alright then

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also the entire case was utterly pointless?

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the guy was gonna be found innocent with or without me

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wait hang on, at the start of the case sholms said that he worked with me on this case! but he was no-where to be found! what the hell!
what is the pacing in this game???

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anyway thats enough for today

plain gorge
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new case!

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you did a good job being a lawyer of a case where all the evidence was forged by the defendant, so im making a guy with less than 50 days training a full lawyer

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buddy im here to study not be an unpaid lawyer for you, goddamn
dont you have an entire legal team yourself? you're the chief justice!

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also last trial was yesterday! if this is the treatment the first japanees lawyer got while in the UK, no wonder japanifornian law is based on the 2 day system, giving defence lawyers no time to prepare

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back to this guy being evil again

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nani the fuck?????

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so

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what the fuck?

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... EEEEEEEEEEVIIIIIL

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oh no im being set up

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im a scapegoat

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oh nooooooo

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...japan does know we dont eat fish and chips constantly, right?

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no i can comfirm. all uk-ians eat fish and chips like all usamericans eat burgers and all canadians poutine.

plain gorge
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i mean, we definitly DO love a good chippie

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but its hardly universal

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especially these days, price of a good chippie's gone through the bloody roof aint it

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back in my day i used to be able to get cod and chips for £3
these days same meal is £15

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that was some 15 years ago tho ppenk

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but thats hadly raising with inflation

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i like gregson tho

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started appearing in sholmes stories, liked the recognition, but now folks think he's living on that fame
i can respect that motivation

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...wait

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no

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surely not

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surely the "reaper of the baily" doesnt fucking ||kill the defendant if they get a not guilty||

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surely thats not the plotline they're doing

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this has to be a red herring

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so is he really a vampire?

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he just understands the appeal of capes

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big same

plain gorge
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lol

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no i dont think hes actually a vampire

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a good third of what im saying is me trying to be funny

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im sure theres a vampire au fic somewhere out there

plain gorge
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most of my accusations are jokes

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i will give this game credit that the crime is fairly obscured
but i take it away again by the simple fact that its impossible to KNOW the crime because they fail to shed key info on multiple occasions, then they shove any deductions you make out the window anyway

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i dont like it

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its not twists, its deus ex machina

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this is one paranoid mofo

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why is he doing action poses

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...oh god hes an anime protagonist

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oh a poet

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christ sholms, how many false accusations have you made this week?

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knocker uppers were a real thing back in the day, yeah
didnt know it was the job of a london bobby though, news to me
makes sense tho

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20 miles a day? that sounds.... wrong somehow
london is a big place i suppose, even back then
i suppose it would be a 20 mile area rather than literal miles on foot, right?

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didnt know that either, but it also makes sense

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thank god someone else sees it!

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HE LITERALLY ACCUSED ME OF BEING A RUSSIAN REVOLUTIONARY WITH 16 KILLS AND GOT ME ARRESTED, YES HES A BLOODY DANGER

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why is holms roomates with a to year old girl...

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im getting very stranger danger vibes now ngl

#

this explains everything...

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...UK medicine has never been so bad that a 10 year old was a doctor of medicine

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YEAH IT DOES

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sound more like something on a certain list thats being hidden by certain peoples att his exactl moment

#

oh so iris actually has two braincells
got it

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so times havent changed in a hundred years apparently

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that was part one?

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plain gorge
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lol

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ooooh dear, i really hope hes not another name on a certain list

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oh so thats what he gets paid to appear in the books, fair enough
a crown
no idea what that is in todays money again

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# plain gorge this is one paranoid mofo

also he´s another of those divisive characters but personally i think soseki is a riot. whiny doyle estate "no you cant use the exact name of sherlock holmes, thats OUR fictional character" vs based as fuck soseki descendants "yea sure of course you can borrow our real life grand grand so on grandfather, make him a weirdo lol"

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its a ja[anees game and company

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i also did not know he was a real bloke

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ye he wrote some famous cat stuff

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yes, i can tell this pose means best wishes

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why a cannon

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everything else is fine, but a cannon?

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ok they shaped his head like a crescent moon, fine, but the first time we see him is in this profile

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siiiigh

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sometimes i love the pun names and faces and sometmes i just dont like them

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aaaah so hes mad

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yes that sounds about right

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she does like to threaten people with a gun

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usually a fucking bazooka

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a medal of honour pariticpation prize

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quick question did they state iris´s surname yet

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yeah you meet her in court and dont know her name but when you meet her the second time she tells you

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apparently theres an acheivement for searching the room before asking her about her name

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this is just pheonix wright and ema skye

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also we dont do the 4th grade thing here

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very american

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trucy is atleast his actual adopted kid

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and appollo is his kinda adopted kid
or is till game 6

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in my heart of hearts phoenix has a chronic "is anyone gonna adopt that" and not waiting for an answer. edgeworth can attest it being contagious

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pheonix has a heart of gold

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he is also a cagey prick but we love him anyway

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yeah

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lol

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(my replay is at big top, remember how fucking cagey he is about miles, truly best part of the case)

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thats not actually inaccurate, even in the first three games he aws pretty cagy to others, we just got to see his internal monologue

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i heard a romour that edgy boy was going to not be in the game but fan backlash demanded he come abck

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somehow things are starting to fall into place

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huh

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interesting

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it did feel weird to have franziska for all of 2 cases

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in her defense she got shot ponknothoughtsheadempty

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sure

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but yeaaa

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but narritavely it still makes little sense

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case 4 game 2 is a fantastic case tho

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farewell my turnabout my beloved

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i suppose franziska also shows more of who edgy boy used to be, and the last case shows who he is now

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or was in 2002

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anyway

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why the fuck did this maid just burn garrideb's had???
he asked her to take something off the wall, and she poured him tea, so much tea it overflowed
whats with that???

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truly, a waste of tea

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tea wasnt exactly cheap during this period

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affordable, yes, cheap, no

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oh she probably didnt want us seeing the medal i guess, thats why she did that

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weird detail

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he we caught him in a lie! he knows who herlock is because he has a copy of his magazine!

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she jsut silled his boiling hot tea again!

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why

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they're bloody peeping toms! thats what they are! nosy neighbors, keeping an eye on their tenants! the rotters.

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that maid is sussy AF

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im a call an emegency meeting

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the maid did it, shes the killer!

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cat!

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i was very happy about wagahai

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we looooove kitty in this house

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ah yes, thank you obsolete gaming

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wow 4 years ago

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i poked the cat
he is very cute

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i didnt even have to resort to bribery

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oh?

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such bricked up windows still exist even to this day!

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very reassuring, mr great detective...

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oooooooh hes always facing this way because he is hiding ||a slap mark i think, some kind of mark from what looked like a human hand||
iiinteresting

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sholmes... how the fuck does anyone fit ||a damn lion|| into a london flat? what the fuck is wrong with you

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once again punished for finding the answer but not investigating it first
like obviously ||the bookmark with a lipstick kiss is the issue here||
do i really need to investigate why? thats the point of me pressing present, to do exactly that

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for anyone playing this game, investigate everything before you present it
and you have that as an option even thought investigate doesnt show up as one in the bottom right
this game's ui man
its trash

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wont lie, the old boy is in a bit of a spot of bother
i do believe what he says here, thats clearly not his fault, some kind of mix up

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he did it, hes the killer

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wha the fuck sholmes! you get soseki arrested, then show up at his cell to boast about going through his things, reading his books!

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remind me why im supposed to like sholmes again?

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way to alleviate the mans fears ryunosuke... goddamn
can this man's day get any worse???

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WHY ARE WE HAVING THIC CONVERSATION IN FRONT OF THE ACCUSED????????????

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ah yes the great british legal system, with a baked in way for criminals to get off the hook

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sholmes... STOP TALKING, FOR GODS SAKE MAN

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this defendant is going to have a heart attack before seeing a courtroom

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ah yes this sums up the character t a T

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my source is that i made it the fuck up

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oh this is actually devolving into a heartfelt message

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ok fair enough

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turns up to the jail cell
terrifies the fuck out of the defendant
leaves without elaborating

yes i know im gonna defend the guy but come on, wtf

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i went back to check obsolete gaming and yeaaaaaaah i think you were very correct when you said he's a love him hate him kinda character ponknothoughtsheadempty

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truth to be told i was already biased going into the game penk 2021 bringi though herlock is the funniest name ever n tbh ye it still cracks me up

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i know aa isnt even the first one, like its lupin homage, but still

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yay! judge santa again!

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HES THE KILLER HE DID IT LOCK HIM UP NOW

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the fuck? of all the millions of people in london, the bloody witness from last trial is a juror?

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the defendands fucking landlady? as a juror?????

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what the fuck?

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thats a heavy glass bottle filled with flammable liquid man! you could ahve killed somebody!

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what the fuck does this mean

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so my current theory is thus: ||the woman was stabbed at a different time, all the defendant saw was a woman in a green overcoat after all. this lady might be the one who sent that bookmark to the old soldier for example, which makes the landlady maid a suspect? i guess? and shes on the jury, oh no||

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judge: this jury clearly is unbiased and has nothing to do with the case
juror 1: was someone the defence attorney accused of being a murderer only 2 days ago
juror 4: is the defendants landlady
juror 5: ||was in the next road over, doing roadworks that walled off the quickest route home from the bookstore (not noted by the police or the prosecution btw) ||
juror 6: ||was wearing the same coat at the victim, walking the same street as the defendant, on the same day, and also fell down in pain and knocked himself out||

why is the defendant even on trial anymore?

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truely sickening

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jesus christ
imagine todays court, the jury could just decide to end things early, pack it up and go home

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anyway tis midnight, i need sleep

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ill resume the trial tomorrow

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back to AA

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got a headache still, even after taking some paracetamol tho, so not feeling great, and im tired
somehow i cant nap tho
so
fuck it

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judicial summation is a system that actually makes sense, and i like the idea of it, but being able to do it unlimited times is like having extra lives in a video game lol

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well thats one way of putting things lol

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casual domestic abuse

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now THATS a facial expression XD

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....please dont tell me ||that the maid threw a knife at her husband, missed, and hit the victim?||
thats really dumb if its the case

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honestly i got no idea whats going on

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this is dumb now

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oh for gods sake

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he didnt, did he?

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||he moved the body across the street||

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stupid bastard

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stupid boy

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siiiigh

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yep thats exactly what happend
dear god what a dumb case
and it took fucking ages to prove it
note: i havent proven it yet

...i really dont like the writing on this game

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15 mins to prove it

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jesus christ what a slog

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i dont blame the guy, ||in this world where rules are firm, where he couldnt ask a fellow copper for help just one bloody night, id honestly probably do the same||
but i do blame the writers

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uuuuuuugh

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jesus christ ||that woman nearly killed her husband, and the poor nameless victim!||

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the fucking irony

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utter balls to say such a thing with this travesty of a case

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my thoughts on that case are a little muddled so im gonna do abit of a summary:
||i guess the case wasnt terrible but it was needlessly drawn out and protracted. you have to fight for every inch of ground, at every opportunity! why! your theories are overturned for the most inane reasons, plausible lines of enquiry shut down
2/3 of the damn jury are biased, witnesses or the fucking guilty party||
this case sucked, though not as bad as the boat one

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we are NOT having another step-ladder incident

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(btw i started a new case)

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case 5

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the inspeakable story

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so i shall say nothign of the story

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as it is unspeakable

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i will however, type about it

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sholmes is mopey this morning

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well after all we've been through because of his actions, he can mope all he damn wants

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CAT!

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very insightful.

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im going to take a break again.

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...fuck 24 years

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i remember playing the AA games on ds as a kid

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ok im mad again

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why did the game do the action music thing for a steriscope image? i thought there was gonna be a body in there or something

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it was just a picture

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i tought the picture was of someone we knew

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wrong again

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ah casual child abuse! twas very common in these times

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...but why

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thats

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well its crazy

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ok thats less crazy, but still high on the crazy scale

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ngl i was expecting cumberbatch
but this is a an obvious fake name, right? has to be

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ok thats funni

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im sorry but sholmes is a bloody child
i fail to see whats likable about him

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the contradiction is clearly highlights the initials on the cane that clearly arent eggarts the missing ferrule! camera cuts to the bottom of the staff
seriously, a damn child

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oh thats actually the right answer?

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what?

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...ok hes a fucking moron again

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jesus christ

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oh actually holms had a very plausible idea here
its utterly incorrect, but plausible

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walks up to someone he acusses of a bank robber
tells them theres a lot of gold in the bank across the street
but shh please keep it to yourself thanks

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siiigh

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ok thats p funny

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ah. thats explains a lot.

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...OH

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OH NOOOOO

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this guy did it, hes the killer

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why the fuck is every case in this game a locked room case

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seriously

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ok this is a funny exchange

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what is wrong with this girl lol

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average pre teen girl behavior

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i meant it affectionatly lol, i like iris

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i know, we love weird little girl assistant trope in this house

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she just showed me her blood gun

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i would provide context but its funnier if i dont

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the science behind it is a bit whacky

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well. we can revisit that statement after second game is all ill say on that

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shame about herly though. i had a blast thanks to him, but i can see how annoying the game would be when you find him grating. i guess i really didnt think him as that much of a love him or hate him character penk

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i think part of it is tat sherlock is kind of a british icon, you know?

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i blame that on tumblr being very hell yea herlock, i think i got bamboozled by an echo chamber

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and they dont just poke fun, but they turn him into a whiny child

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he has little redeeming qualities, tho granted "little" still means "some"

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insert the meme of "you guys are getting international recognition?" from czech media anything ponknothoughtsheadempty

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lol thats true

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goddamn, this is the creepiest screen in any AA game

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my guy you have played athena cykes trauma simulator i mean, dual destinies

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yeah

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oh right THAT scene

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yeah no that one tops

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its still somewhat funny thats what finally got them M rating, given all the. stuff of previous games

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i guess the 10 year old bit hits ponkpain

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oh that one! ... well, actually, i always think of ||metis in chair getting "fixed"|| as THE scene||

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i know this one follows it shortly after but just, waugh!

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i dont think i was able to get a screencap of it, happened too fast, but i remember it. just before that screenshot i think

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ace attorney, the funni gay lawyer game

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ah yes

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truely haunting, especially in context

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ok first off, grim AF that ||gina is wearing a coat covered in blood||
second, i think this is the first game we've ||defended a guilty person? like not paid someone to do it, but actually did the deed guilty||

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anyway

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im a take a break for now

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long case!

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time for the trial i guess
this game really feels like a slog to me but i wanna finish the story for it

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that is very cute lol

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leaving this here with zero context

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i mean the context is pretty obvious but funnier without it

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RACIST!

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theres no fucking way we have to deal with this soldier again, the maid again, the old guy, the typewriter lady again and who is obviously the russian assassin from the second case
and i think ive seen juror number 3 before too, cant recall when though

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scratch that hes a fucking loon

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they take phones away in court sometimes, yet this lady has an active telegram system

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that is pretty funny tho

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oh good that actually is a plotpoint not a joke

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who are these team rocket looking asses?

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god they ARE team rocket

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this is pretty finny tho

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these three are a right bunch

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fuck off van zieks

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thes two are adorable lol

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damn i feel bad for the garridebs now

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naturally the russian revolutionary is the one to prolong the trial
somehow

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these two are the best parts of this game i think lol

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im kinda stuck on this one tbh

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i presented evidence that blatently contradicts the testimony yet it didnt work somehow

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looked up a guide

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oh i needed to present a different completely unrelated enidence

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christ

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stuck again, gonna look at the guide

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stuck one thing over too, that sucks

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really beating the alligations of innocent tourist

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also what a fucking shot lol, properly intimidating XD

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oh fuck off he was doing surgery on a grape ||(on sholmes)||
who the fuck lined this jury? can i sue for a mistrial?

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this brand new evidence is clearly unimportant, but let me just investigate it a little myself...
...ah

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oh god shes gonna kill someone!

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uuuuuuuuuuugh
like sure fiune whatever but come on how curated is this jury? seriously?

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gaaayyyyyyy

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(its very sweet)

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what an incompetent buffoon

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ok seriously even im thinking shut the fuck up and this guy is my enemy

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this is the best exchange in the whole franchise
imagine a regular court case where ||one of the jurors just stands up and says "nah he totally had means motive AND opportunity, i work with him and this is just common knowledge in the office"||
fucking insane
love it

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i wonder if they know anything?
naaaah probably not

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that is very funny

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that last case was actually good

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the trial at least

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didnt feel like bullshit at least

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there were clues thrown at me that i could ahve worked out from the start of the case, unlike the other cases that threw random bullshit at me

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one thing i dont get is that ||herlock's duplicate disk wasnt used in any meaningful way, feels like a wasted opportunity. oh well.||

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anyway thats enough for me
its 3:48am lol

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nice ending cutscene tho

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congrats on finishing adventures!

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i remember calling it a set up game. adventures somewhat awkwardly stumbles so resolve can turn into sonic. its kinda like investigations 2 in case interconnectivity but it pulls from and calls back to first game as well

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granted i do have a bit of beef with one (1) plot beat in the final case (however PhoenixWigglePoint i have a funny comic for that) but otherwise i think its just a grand time. .... herlock will probably continue to be irritating to you tho ponknothoughtsheadempty

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maybe my opinion will change in the second game

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i did genuinely enjoy the last trial

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i fucking hated the windibank bit about ||him threatening to shooting his own head
because its the single dumbest plot point ever and the poorest excuse for for him only having one bullet that night
he owns a pawnbroker, could have had a bespoke flintlock or something, a single shot hunting pistol, lots of legit reasons for that instead of "i will literally commit suicide over tiny mistakes"||

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new case!
game 2 ahoy

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well thats a shock

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aight

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siiiigh

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i do like the pun names

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but i also hate them

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thats a pun?

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rei memba
remember

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remember me

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oh

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(tiny bit spoiler) ||wow they named her that and then she literally does not matter past the first case||

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i figured

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they even put her on the cover of the game and its like. wow, really? why? ponknothoughtsheadempty

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lol

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siiiiigh

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this is a great look btw

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aww she even slaps her face too
learned a lot from her friend

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oh for gods sake, another locked room?

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im honestly fed up with locked room cases

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gods sake man, get changed

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aaand hes back! losing none of his flair for the dramatic it seems

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nah he just ikes playing dressup

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yeah but thats not proof that its the defendants pen
its a nice modern pen thats only just been brought into the country, why would a Japanese student have an engraved one? thats a london fad

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smh

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...are you... threatening me judge?

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im honestly shocked it isnt! its literally already in the game

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nah this is probably not important

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ccant imagine it being relevant at all

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lets move on

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so wheres the shipping art?

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damn thats cute ngl

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a pair of qts lol

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so... this guy's the killer, right?

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...so he knowingly took pictures of the womens changing room?
fucking pervert