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fresh hill Nov 27, 2025, 12:11 AM

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Ixculpa sent Magnifying Glass to La DxRomulus (MoM: Melquiades, The Exhumed Archbishop)

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Ixculpa sent Item - Clamshell to EmeCP (Confessor Dungeon 5 extra)

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Ixculpa sent Item - Special Shoudu Stew to EmeCP (AR: Upper west shaft ledge)

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70%, and got the checkpoint closest to goal that I can reach for now

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I'll keep going and maybe get the hinted Post-TheTwins, but definitely stopping there at the latest

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@faint grove Ixculpa sent Post-The Twins to Daibesu (WotHP: Oil of the Pilgrims)

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Ixculpa sent Item - Sequoia Athenaeum Pass to EmeCP (WotHP: Upper west room, center gold cell)

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ok, unlocked the shortcut to the area boss, who I will not be fighting tonight

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WotHP goes by so quick when you start with all the keys

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nice place to wrap it up
Ixculpa sent Item - Tram Key to EmeCP (Albero: Final gift for Cleofas)

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78% after all the now-easy cleanup

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ready to charge the final boss as soon as I get the last Mask

tender pelican Nov 27, 2025, 1:46 AM

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LlisandurPKMN2 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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Just releasing everything remaining since it's so late in the month.

fresh hill Nov 27, 2025, 1:47 AM

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yeah, I don't see myself 100%ing either slot

tender pelican Nov 27, 2025, 1:48 AM

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LlisandurPKMN2 sent Shovel to La DxRomulus (Celadon Gym - Rainbow Badge from Erika)
LlisandurPKMN2 sent World Key to FlitterAE (Silver Cave 2F - West Item)
LlisandurPKMN2 sent Progressive Scale to FlitterHark (Silver Cave 1F - Center Item)
plus puzzle pieces.

midnight depot Nov 27, 2025, 1:48 AM

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Thanks!

fresh hill Nov 27, 2025, 1:49 AM

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do you need any more AE World Keys?

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(I tried fighting Isidora today, and an in-game hint said she has a Key, but I skill issued too hard)

midnight depot Nov 27, 2025, 1:50 AM

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Let me check

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I need every single key

fresh hill Nov 27, 2025, 1:54 AM

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ok then

tender pelican Nov 27, 2025, 2:00 AM

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Just need the Baron Key to finish up FF4.

modern ivy Nov 27, 2025, 4:28 AM

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no more interesting items!

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back to cry pro!

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oh we done!

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92.49% complete

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victory

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still no golden quintar haha

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midnight depot Nov 27, 2025, 11:34 PM

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Hi. It's 2AM. Let me quickly get this item

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Daibesu's Post-Golem is at 8-3 TV Tower Coin - Water Basement in FlitterAE's World. (priority)

fresh hill Nov 27, 2025, 11:37 PM

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I think I'll play a bit more Ixculpa after I finish catching up on Spy X Family

midnight depot Nov 27, 2025, 11:40 PM

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FlitterAE sent Item - Draft Shaft Conduit Pass to EmeCP (8-3 TV Tower Monkey 3 - Mach 3)

FlitterAE sent Post-Golem to Daibesu (8-3 TV Tower Coin - Water Basement)```
@faint grove post-golem acquired!

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I'll play more tomorrow

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 12:52 AM

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Quirce was no problem at all, good warmup

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let's try Isidora again

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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@midnight depot Ixculpa sent World Key to FlitterAE (Ossuary: Isidora, Voice of the Dead)

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only took 20-30 tries???

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 1:21 AM

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Well done!

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 1:22 AM

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I am so bad at this fight ppenk

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next up, I want to do Library, mostly to get the last Mea Culpa Altar so I can finally clear out all these random green squares from places where I can't actually check the locations

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 1:49 AM

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Ixculpa sent Item - Clamshell to EmeCP (DC: Mea Culpa altar)

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Ixculpa sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to La DxRomulus (BotSS: Esdras' final gift)

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Ixculpa sent Progressive Bow to FlitterHark (TSC: Exposito, Scion of Abjuration)

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 1:55 AM

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Thanks

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 1:56 AM

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and there's the final altar + skill unlock

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Ixculpa sent Item - Canopy Key to EmeCP (Third red candle)

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library done, 92%

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all I have left in logic now are optional bosses, and a handful of puzzle rooms that aren't worth the hassle

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I wanna do a 2nd amanecida, and call it there for now

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hey look what she had
Ixculpa sent World Key to FlitterAE (Defeat 2 Amanecidas)

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also first try

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 2:10 AM

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Thanks

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We gotta wrap up soon so I'll play these worlds tomorrow

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 2:11 AM

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not feeling like Sierpes atm

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let's try a 3rd amanecida

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3rd one had nothing good

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stopping at 94.41%

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 2:18 AM

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tender pelican Just need the Baron Key to finish up FF4.

this is on Crisanta, my penultimate boss, so it's locked behind the Mask I hinted earlier

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and flitter said that's what this is for

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from skimming the backlog, I'm not sure if @faint grove was aware 3 slots are now waiting on this hint chain, so ping pingblob

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my only hinted item in Ixcat is for a completed slot

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ah and the seal Ixcat needed was found by that completed slot

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so probably tomorrow I'll goal Ixcat

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 2:39 AM

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After all of that, we have 4 slots of uncertain status: Daibesu, La DxRomulus, FlitterAE, octy_sc2. The only hint for any of those slots is Daibesu's "Post-Eye of Cthulhu" in FF4's Baron Castle, which I'm guessing is blocked on the Baron Key.

It'd be good to establish if those slots are all in go mode or if we have blocking items to find besides that known hint chain.

tender pelican Nov 28, 2025, 2:40 AM

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Yup, Baron Key is blocking anything else I have available. I've already completed my other two games.

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 2:46 AM

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Where's Baron key again?

proven holly Nov 28, 2025, 3:06 AM

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fresh hill After all of that, we have 4 slots of uncertain status: Daibesu, La DxRomulus, F...

i marked unblocked a day or so ago, just getting the chance to play now

faint grove Nov 28, 2025, 3:24 AM

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fresh hill from skimming the backlog, I'm not sure if <@187281784294211584> was aware 3 slo...

Song of storms sent couldn't do tier 3 old ones army til post golem and couldn't hint

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And I have a few easy checks before like one or two grindy ones then I'm bk till post moon lord is found

proven holly Nov 28, 2025, 3:53 AM

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octy_sc2 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

octy_sc2 sent Cante Jondo of the Three Sisters to Ixculpa (Hand of Darkness (Terran): Kill 1 Hybrid)
octy_sc2 sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Hand of Darkness (Terran): South War Bot)
octy_sc2 sent Lunge Skill to Ixculpa (Hand of Darkness (Terran): Kill 6 Hybrid)
octy_sc2 sent Fishing Hook to La DxRomulus (All-In (Zerg): Fourth Kerrigan Attack)
octy_sc2 sent Verses Spun from Gold to Ixculpa (All-In (Zerg): First Kerrigan Attack)
octy_sc2 sent Progressive Bombchu to FlitterHark (The Reckoning (Protoss): Victory)

cold valve Nov 28, 2025, 3:54 AM

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ok i am finally done with food comas so let's play some motha fuckin LADX

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i do appear to be in go mode

modern ivy Nov 28, 2025, 4:37 AM

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fresh hill I think I'll play a bit more Ixculpa after I finish catching up on Spy X Family

oh hey i just got done catching up on it right now and wow am i glad i had several episodes in a row to watch so i did not get bus cliff hangered

cold valve Nov 28, 2025, 5:55 AM

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La DxRomulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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this is maybe the fastest i've completed this in AP

modern ivy Nov 28, 2025, 7:06 AM

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grats!

faint grove Nov 28, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Goaled and released apparently all I needed was post golem

tender pelican Nov 28, 2025, 7:57 AM

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LlisandurFF4's Baron Key is at Ixculpa's AR: Crisanta of the Wrapped Agony

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 1:22 PM

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Good afternoon

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Let's play Ape Escape

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 1:41 PM

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FlitterAE (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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FlitterAE (Team #1) has released all remaining items from their world.

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The only games we have left are OoT, Blasphemous, Nine Sols, FF4.

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FlitterAE sent Ranged Skill to Ixculpa (8-3 TV Tower Monkey 9 - Roosta)
FlitterAE sent Child of Moonlight to Ixculpa (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 2 - Porto) x Some more copies
FlitterAE sent (Artifact) GM Fertilizer to Ixcat (9-1 Monkey Madness - Rescue Professor)

FlitterAE sent Bongo Bongo's Soul to FlitterHark (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 11 - Donovan)```

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Let's play OoT

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Thanks for the ocarina of time (does nothing), Volvagia's soul, golden scale, twinrova's soul, song of storms, bongo bongo's soul

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 2:17 PM

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so I was missing a bile vessel

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 2:39 PM

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Beating Volvagia as child link places me out of bounds

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FlitterHark sent Mirrored Mask of Dolphos to Ixculpa (DMT Storms Grotto Chest)

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Please send Baron Key as soon as possible so I can get Ganon's Soul and beat the game

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 2:42 PM

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all right, Crisanta time

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 2:42 PM

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I wonder if I have remaining items that could help you

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Calcified eye of erudition?

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No clue where that is

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Oh it's the one that shows enemy health

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 2:50 PM

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nah, erudition is great on a first playthrough but bosses have health bars regardless

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ok filled up the new flask and spent my last quicksilver on a flask upgrade

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I have the true ending item equipped

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 2:54 PM

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Should be a cinch

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 2:56 PM

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probably

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@tender pelican Ixculpa sent Baron Key to LlisandurFF4 (AR: Crisanta of the Wrapped Agony)

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interesting, it gives me the location for beating her "normal" fight, before the true ending-only 2nd phase triggers

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 3:07 PM

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That's how I'd do it

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 3:10 PM

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SECOND TRY flutteryay

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honestly I had 50/50 odds on me opting out of true ending to do just the easy fights

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it's goal time

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 3:17 PM

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Nice

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 3:18 PM

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?

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 3:18 PM

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Sorry, two different messages

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First message was one I was not going to send: "Otherwise, you'd either have increased difficulty for the check or get two checks at the same time"

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 3:20 PM

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ah

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Ixculpa (Team #1) has completed their goal.

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 3:28 PM

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Well done

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 3:40 PM

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Ixcat (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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second try marblegrump

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I've almost level zeroed you, that should've been a breeze

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 3:43 PM

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Oh yeah Eigong

modern ivy Nov 28, 2025, 6:16 PM

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grats on the finishes!

cold valve Nov 28, 2025, 6:31 PM

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crusin'

tender pelican Nov 28, 2025, 6:31 PM

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Thought I had everything. Turns out I never got the earth crystal. XD
All stuff from Baron has been gotten.
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Earth Crystal is at Jiequan's Tianhuo Flower in Ixcat's World. (priority)

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 6:31 PM

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oh

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well I picked an inconvenient time to be messing with mod stuff

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probably should just release the slot at this point

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released

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 6:34 PM

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Thanks

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Ixcat sent Earth Crystal to LlisandurFF4 (Jiequan's Tianhuo Flower)

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Ooh, I have Ganon's soul. Thanks!

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Let's finish the game

tender pelican Nov 28, 2025, 6:42 PM

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LlisandurFF4 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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I missed 18 chests. Forgot to go to the treasury after getting the earth crystal. XD

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Everything released.

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 6:45 PM

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FlitterHark (Team #1) has completed their goal.
Team #1 has completed all of their games! Congratulations!

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Well done, everyone!

cold valve Nov 28, 2025, 6:56 PM

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for december i am going to adjust my local items so i don't find only my own purples

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man i really really wish bombs, powder, rupees, and arrows weren't purple

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i'll just have to trust y'all won't ping me for those

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 6:58 PM

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could make some of those local?

cold valve Nov 28, 2025, 6:59 PM

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no that's what i already do

fresh hill Nov 28, 2025, 6:59 PM

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ah

cold valve Nov 28, 2025, 6:59 PM

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and the result is that i found like 5 purples for other people the whole game

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y'all were barely dependent on me at all

midnight depot Nov 28, 2025, 7:14 PM

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That sucks

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Maybe the game should just have a big check like "700 rupees" that alone guarantees you can get the purchasables you want, for example

modern ivy Nov 28, 2025, 7:25 PM

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grats on 2 more finishes

midnight depot Nov 29, 2025, 6:55 PM

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Thank you for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago Game for November 2025. This month we've had 12 games, 33 spheres, and 4901 locations. The players in the playthrough file, listed from last to first receiving an item, are @proven holly with Starcraft 2, @tender pelican with FF1, @cold valve with LADX, Llisandur with FF4, me with OoT, @faint grove with Terraria, @modern ivy with Jigsaw, me with Ape Escape, Emerassi with Crystal Project, @fresh hill with Blasphemous, Llisandur with Pokemon, Ixrec with Nine Sols in Sphere 24. Included are the game log, spoiler log, as well as YAMLs, apworlds and output file. The game link was at https://archipelago.gg/room/xNiza1xCRi-9CIgOXNiRRg

📎 Game_log.txt 📎 Spoiler_log.txt 📎 November2025.7z

Archipelago

Multiworld xNiza1xCRi-9CIgOXNiRRg

12 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 36671

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Hello, @here! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the the end of December 2025. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run (or browse the archipelago discord server for unsupported games!), then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. Let's try to make sure that you like the game you picked and can complete it by the end of the month!
The game will start Thursday, December 4th or whenever everyone interested is ready.

In order to join, I will need the YAML files for whatever games you want to play. Please make sure you only join with a manageable workload, and the ability to play at least a little every four or so days.

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For this month I'll play A Short Hike and Crystal Project!

weary lagoon Nov 29, 2025, 8:26 PM

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silksong out?

midnight depot Nov 29, 2025, 8:29 PM

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Silksong is probably not coming out before 2027

weary lagoon Nov 29, 2025, 8:33 PM

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thats not real

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theres gotta be like 200 nerds working on it

midnight depot Nov 29, 2025, 8:34 PM

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Oh yeah? Go check

fresh hill Nov 29, 2025, 8:38 PM

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this also isn't the kind of project where throwing more nerds at it speeds anything up

midnight depot Nov 29, 2025, 8:41 PM

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On the other hand, 9 construction workers can have a baby in one month

modern ivy Nov 29, 2025, 11:33 PM

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i agree with all of this but i think 2026 sometime is more likely than 2027. Just for fun I'll say they'll have a beta version of the rando that works in AP in April and then I can see how wrong I was later.

midnight depot Nov 29, 2025, 11:34 PM

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I said 2027 to mess with Artiks

modern ivy Nov 29, 2025, 11:34 PM

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oh well in that case I also think 2027 =)

midnight depot Nov 29, 2025, 11:35 PM

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You're right that April seems like a good guess based on progress they have so far

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And based on how simple the game is to mod (and similar to Hollow Knight)

midnight depot Nov 30, 2025, 5:53 PM

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Hi

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Is anyone joining this month?

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Let's make sure A Short Hike works

cold valve Nov 30, 2025, 5:54 PM

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cold valve for december i am going to adjust my local items so i don't find only my own pur...

i'll work on this later today

tender pelican Nov 30, 2025, 5:57 PM

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Yes, I'll have to see what I want to do.

proven holly Nov 30, 2025, 6:05 PM

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Yes, need to prepare a different set of games though

fresh hill Nov 30, 2025, 6:06 PM

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I'll probably submit just one AHiT slot this time

midnight depot Nov 30, 2025, 6:07 PM

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Hell yeah

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For a Short Hike I'll do help everyone. I'll make everyone I help a priority check. I'll make my coins stay inside my game, and I'll make sources of money like the shovel and fishing rod, as well as the silver feather be in other games.

modern ivy Nov 30, 2025, 6:36 PM

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I'm in, I just have to figure out if I want to change anything up

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 7:10 PM

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Happy Monday

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Let's figure out Crystal Project

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 9:20 PM

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    # If your goal is Clamshells, select how many you need to win.
    # 
    # (If your goal is not Clamshells, this setting does nothing. 3 Clamshells will be placed in your pool and the Mañana Man will ask for 2. Don't worry, he's cool with it.)
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    # You can define additional values between the minimum and maximum values.
    # Minimum value is 2
    # Maximum value is 99
    2: 50
    random: 0
    random-low: 0
    random-high: 0```
Why is the minimum 2? I want there to be one clamshell in the whole multiworld.

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    # Choose which regions to play in! Only locations within your chosen regions will give you checks; the rest will be empty.
    # This can be used to adjust the difficulty and length of your game.
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    # NOTE: Make sure to include the region that has the finish line of your chosen goal in it!
    # Example: if your goal is Astley, Advanced is considered to have that finish line, so you can pick Advanced, Expert, or All.
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    # Beginner: Only regions up through the end of Skumparadise will have checks. Finish Line: Clamshells
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    # Advanced: Regions up to Salmon Bay will have checks. Finish Line: Astley (Note: Level Gating's Level Catch-Up Option is recommended for Astley on Advanced.)
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    # Expert: Regions up to The Deep Sea will have checks. (Note: The Depths will not be included.)
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    # All: Every region is included. Finish Line: True Astley
    beginner: 0
    advanced: 0
    expert: 0
    all: 50

This is badly worded, and I think I only get it because I'm familiar with the game.

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 9:38 PM

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If I had to write it myself, it might be like this:

    # Choose which regions to play in! 
    # Regions you've chosen will give you checks; the rest of the world will be empty.
    # You can use this to make the game shorter and easier, but remember that your goal has to be in the regions you chose!
    # That means you can't set your goal to Astley but only have beginner regions, because Astley needs advanced regions to reach. 
    # Here's table of what regions correlate to which goals:
    # +-----------+-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+
    # | Preset    | Regions Included                     |Highest Reachable Goal         |
    # +-----------+-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+
    # | beginner  | Up to Skumparadise                   | Clamshells                    |
    # | advanced  | Up to Salmon Bay                     | Astley                        |
    # | expert    | Up to The Deep Sea (excluding depths)| Astley                        |
    # | all       | The whole world                      | True Astley (all goals valid) |
    # +-----------+-----------------------------+----------------------------------------+
    beginner: 0
    advanced: 0
    expert: 0
    all: 50

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Or maybe a table is too much

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    # When enabled, all shop inventories will be replaced with checks. Be prepared, adventurer.
    # 
    # Choosing "enabled and hint" will, when you CLOSE the store, automatically create a hint for every item you did not purchase
    # so other players will realize you have betrayed them by refusing to purchase their key progression item!
    disabled: 0
    enabled: 0
    enabled_and_hint: 1```
Brilliant description

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 9:43 PM

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to be honest i'm not sure why we went with 2 as the minimum on the clamshell goal instead of 1

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i also think the included regions section could use some work because you absolutely can do a beginner true astley end if you really want to

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i just wouldn't recommend it

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 9:44 PM

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Makes sense

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 9:45 PM

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I might have to steal that for Nine Sols shopsanity

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 9:46 PM

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haha go for it

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inside the store if there's a trap for another player the description in the store is also "<slotname> does not want you to buy this. Buy it anyway >:)"

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so we went for maximum cheekiness on the shop stuff

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if it's for your own game the name and icon match one of your progression items but with a single deliberate typo in the name

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it's pretty funny when you see 1 owl drum and 2 awl drums in the same store

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and you're like... wait a minute

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 9:50 PM

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For this run I'll have two clamshells as a goal. Both will be in my world. I will not randomize shops. I'll try out extreme region passes and progressive mounts.

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 9:51 PM

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modern ivy if it's for your own game the name and icon match one of your progression items ...

AHiT does this with local traps

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 9:52 PM

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nice

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it's a funny bit

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 9:52 PM

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https://github.com/ArchipelagoMW/Archipelago/blob/ac84b272c512236e88e0fade80de3bf9be027a9c/worlds/ahit/Items.py#L170-L190

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still occasionally gets me

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you'd think I'd stop falling for it after putting non_local_items: ["Time Piece", ...] in my yaml but

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 9:53 PM

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hehehe

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 9:57 PM

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I want to put one priority check on each boss above level 50. I wonder if there are groups for bosses

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 9:58 PM

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there's a group for all bosses currently but not ones on level ranges...

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:00 PM

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I was thinking they might be grouped by region

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By level range is silly and unintuitive because of the early optional bosses

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 10:01 PM

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yeah unforuntately only 4 location groups i think atm

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crystals, bosses, shops and region completions

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or everywhere lol

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:02 PM

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it's weirdly hard to find out that Everywhere is a group you get for free

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:02 PM

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You know what archipelago needs

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Tagging for locations

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Instead of having an item group that encompasses logically related locations, each location can carry a number of tags like early game, bosses, requires owl, shop...

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 10:04 PM

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i do like this a lot

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:04 PM

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how would this be different from location groups?

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:05 PM

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It would be the same, which is why you gotta wait for my next post

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:05 PM

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no, we must efficiently reject innovation

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:06 PM

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A player could, with further development, be able to mouse over a location name in the client and see what it's tagged with, like how they can already see whether an item is progression or helpful

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It would make it necessary to construct groups as needed, instead of having an easy maintainable set of groups the devs are familiar with

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 10:07 PM

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https://github.com/Emerassi/CrystalProjectAPWorld/issues/318

GitHub

Update LocationData to include a parameter for tags, which will be ...

Additionally, automatically tag all locations based on their display region. So for example, the Boss - Shaku location automatically gets Boss today, but in the future it would also get Spawning Me...

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:08 PM

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That's true! I was thinking of it as a core archipelago feature but it could also be implemented apworld side

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 10:09 PM

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yeah right now the reason we have the groups we do is just because that's how the locations are groups in the apworld

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there's a get_shop_locations for example

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but if we can tack extra tags onto them why not

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:11 PM

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for a core feature, if the only core behavior we want is showing text in a tooltip, actually calling it "additional_tooltip_text" would likely be better

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cross-game tagging ideas have been thrown around a lot in the past (albeit usually for items) and the typical problem is no way to ensure they're used consistently enough to achieve any goal, or being proposed with no goal at all (lol)

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 10:12 PM

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i think it's likely that core would cry just about the idea that these tags end up inside the datapackage and then it'd be bigger

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although to be fair i just assume core will reject 99% of all ideas anyway

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even really good ones

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also i noticed at some point medic lost the core tag so they're down to just 3 now?

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:13 PM

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datapackages are already segmented enough that shouldn't be a knockout objection, but sure any new data has to deliver enough value to justify spending space on it, and yeah most of the time people suggest "tags" they fail to even attempt to justify it lol

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 10:13 PM

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the approval bottleneck tightens

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:13 PM

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yeah medic retired

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 10:13 PM

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drabbits recently updated the in game map UI for CP to allow 2 lines of text

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:13 PM

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(and tbf even if I had core superpowers, I would not be prioritizing anything like this in the near future rdsnrk )

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 10:14 PM

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so there's a lot more room for tags for us in the future if we want them

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:14 PM

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The reason I want tags in the first place is that adding a lot of priority checks is a hassle, so the real problem lies with that system, not with groups

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:14 PM

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fresh hill for a core feature, if the only core behavior we want is showing text in a toolt...

worth noting we have a very similar mechanism today for "extended hint information" / the "entrance" text field on hints

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:15 PM

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midnight depot The reason I want tags in the first place is that adding a lot of priority check...

then I think we're missing a reason why "tags" are meaningfully different from the existing "groups" for this use case?

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:16 PM

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It's easier for a developer to just look at a single location and say "This has the following qualities" and then type them out instead of saying "let's have an x group and it should contain the following locations"

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:18 PM

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perhaps, but speaking as a dev, it's already trivial to convert one to the other (and often necessary to do similar conversions for a bunch of other tasks) so if the player interface is the same, then this still seems like we're just asking Emerassi to add more location groups

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:19 PM

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Yeah, all apworld developers should give me like fifty location groups minimum

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And/or allow me to add my own

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:20 PM

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we also need a local yaml editor that makes it easier to actually just write arbitrary locations by autocompleting from the full list

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:21 PM

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Oh yeah, I can't believe the full list can only be accessed by opening up the apworld or by generating a game

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:21 PM

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I mean, today the interface for player options is just a text file lol

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:22 PM

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I love text files. Give me a text file with all locations

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:23 PM

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there was some talk of maybe turning the static item/location lists into data files, but lots of worlds are generating those lists during module load so it's unclear if that's feasible

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 10:23 PM

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your wish is my command %localappdata%\Archipelago\Cache\datapackage\Crystal Project

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that's the windows path to the datapackages

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it has all the names of every item and location

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:24 PM

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I am already familiar with that. I just want it to be in the YAML itself

modern ivy Dec 1, 2025, 10:24 PM

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ah ok

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:24 PM

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It would be nice to also make it obvious which settings remove which locations but I can't expect miracles

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Right now what I do is quickly generate a solo game and fetch the location list from there

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Ah fuck I set kill bosses mode to true but there are no boss names I can ctrl+f

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Oh it's because the names are obscured for spoiler reasons:
Ancient Labyrinth Chest - Dog-headed dogshit boss

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:29 PM

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yeah there's too many ways multiple options can combine into more complex behaviors; we could maybe do something nice and generic for simple ones, but it's hard to think of an incentive for world devs to adopt such a mechanism, and there's no general substitute for world devs writing good/thorough option descriptions

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:29 PM

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Right, and I also want to remove region completion rewards because it felt bad to get a check and then get another check as a reward

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 10:36 PM

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fresh hill we also need a local yaml editor that makes it easier to actually just write arb...

oh wow it does have autocomplete

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 10:37 PM

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Oh neat

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Also apparently, that was the chest after the boss and not the boss

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Finding a list of boss check names is surprisingly hard

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Oh, did I generate with the wrong settings?

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Yeah, kill bosses mode is set to no

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But wait

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It's set to yes in the yaml

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Problem solved. Archipelago didn't tell me to restart it before generating templates

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Fuck, wait

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This location name has a comma in it and it's making the list break

fresh hill Dec 1, 2025, 11:03 PM

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I remember when someone broke Outer Wilds rando by having quotes in another game's item names

midnight depot Dec 1, 2025, 11:05 PM

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Quotation marks to the rescue

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    ["Spawning Meadows Boss - Shaku Summon", "Delende Boss - Troll", "Capital Sequoia Boss - Niltsi Summon", "Capital Sequoia Boss - Defeat L60 dummy and it shall appear...!", "Capital Sequoia Boss - Enami", "Cobblestone Crag Boss - Crag Demon", "Salmon Bay Boss - Guaba Summon", "Shoudu Province Boss - Tira Summon", "Underpass Boss - Pah Summon", "Lake Delende Boss - Ioske Summon", "Eastern Chasm Boss - Undergrowth", "Tall, Tall Heights Boss - Hermetic", "Tall, Tall Heights Boss - Pamoa Summon", "Castle Ramparts Boss - Rampart Demon", "Jidamba Tangle Boss - Juses Summon", "The Deep Sea Boss - Coyote Summon", "Continental Tram Boss - Conscript", "Ancient Labyrinth Boss - Anubis", "The Sequoia Boss - Spirit Cage", "The Depths Boss - The Devourer", "The Depths Boss - The Old One", "The Depths Boss - The Enforcer", "The Depths Boss - The Peacekeeper", "The Depths Boss - With STEM WARD in hand, offer 4 Deity Eyes to battle Gabriel", "Castle Sequoia Boss - Parasite X", "Castle Sequoia Boss - Neo Warden", "Castle Sequoia Boss - Akamanto", "The Old World Boss - Periculum"]

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I included every boss that would be subjectively challenging instead of every boss over 50

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Seems to generate just fine, so I think we're all done

cold valve Dec 2, 2025, 12:20 AM

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@midnight depot

📎 La_DxRomulus.yaml

midnight depot Dec 2, 2025, 12:21 AM

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Thanks!

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I now have five games

cold valve Dec 2, 2025, 12:21 AM

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made my junk items anywhere innstead of local and removed the feather starting hint

fresh hill Dec 2, 2025, 9:39 AM

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📎 A_Hat_in_Time.yaml

proven holly Dec 2, 2025, 9:48 AM

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kinda busy this month so i'm just gonna jigsaw

📎 octy_jigsaw.yaml

tender pelican Dec 4, 2025, 2:07 AM

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FF4 and Pokemon Crystal. I used the installer apworld to update, so I'm on Version 7 of FF4 and 5.2.7 of Pokemon.

📎 LlisandurAP--2025-12.zip

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 2:45 AM

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It's Thursday!

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Is anyone else joining? Let's go over the list

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Last month we had Octy, Llisandur, Dr. Romulus, Daibesu, Emerassi, Ixrec and me. For this month I have heard from everyone but Daibesu. @faint grove, would you like to play with us again? We start later today!

faint grove Dec 4, 2025, 2:55 AM

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I'm good this month might rejoin next month

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 2:56 AM

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All right. I'd be happy to play with you again

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 3:01 AM

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can i invite one more?

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 3:02 AM

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Yes!

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As long as you think they're a nice person to be around

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 3:03 AM

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nice i'll get them to whip up some yamls

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 3:03 AM

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Also, I'm going to add Ape Escape to my games this month

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 3:15 AM

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ok i asked dragons and asked them to get all their yamls and apworlds to you in the next 4 hours

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 3:41 AM

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Ah fuck that means I have to get my yamls and apworlds done in the next 4 hours

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 5:13 AM

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hahah up to you, that's just when dragons is gonna go to bed and i said get them ready before sleeping

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:06 AM

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I noticed jigsaw has 0.9.1

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I am on 0.8

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I have TWO jigsaw games, by Octy and by Emerassi

proven holly Dec 4, 2025, 6:07 AM

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it seems mine was on the 0.8.0 version, judging by the apworld i have

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:07 AM

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You seem to have the same yaml version as each other

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Okay, I'll stay on 0.8 for this month

proven holly Dec 4, 2025, 6:08 AM

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i'll make sure to update for next time

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:08 AM

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0.9 is only useful for the new settings, it seems, https://github.com/spineraks-org/ArchipelagoJigsaw/releases

proven holly Dec 4, 2025, 6:08 AM

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possibly "Add manifest so game works on AP0.7.0+" depending on how quick that happens

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:08 AM

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But it does require a new YAML, so updating is no good

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(for this month)

proven holly Dec 4, 2025, 6:09 AM

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yeah

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:11 AM

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I wanna play Tunic. I'll add it as a third game

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:42 AM

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13 games this month! Let's do the final round of testing before we start

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 6:48 AM

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I showed dragons how to join the thread so they can enjoy the shenanigans

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i'd say "say hello" but they're on haven't been here for 10 minutes yet timeout

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they know what they did

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 6:48 AM

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my 10 minutes are up! i'm freee

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:48 AM

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Hi!

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 6:49 AM

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hello! o/

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:49 AM

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There's a ten minute time before you can speak? First I hear of it, and I'm a server mod

cold valve Dec 4, 2025, 6:49 AM

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no kidding, that's news to me too

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 6:52 AM

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yeah, i wasn't allowed to send messages for 10 minutes after joining lol

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there was a countdown timer in the chatbox and everything

proven holly Dec 4, 2025, 6:53 AM

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its verification level https://nextcloud.octyl.net/s/JS7mYcCLniixcWf/preview

cold valve Dec 4, 2025, 6:53 AM

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yeah i found it

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:53 AM

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Oh I remember now

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@modern ivy EmeCP tried to remove items from their pool that don't exist: {'Item - Homepoint Unlock': 1}
Am I on the wrong apworld version?

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 6:56 AM

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oh lol did i leave that in my yaml

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i goofed!

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:56 AM

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📎 Emerassi_Crystal_Project.yaml

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 6:56 AM

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that's in my start_inventory_from_pool and please remove it or it'll let me teleport to everyone homepoint for free

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or actually i can edit it and send you a fixed one

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:57 AM

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Oh yeah you forgot to comment it out

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Bam, commented out

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 6:57 AM

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sweet perfect

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:57 AM

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Let's try generating again

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 6:57 AM

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this is what i get when i reuse a testing yaml and i'm not careful enough

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the yaml gui cannot come soon enough for me

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:58 AM

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Starting region is The Pale Grotto
Starting region is Delende```
Request: Make it output which player is which

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 6:59 AM

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oh man our debug code is leaking but actually that's a pretty good idea

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:59 AM

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Also, this makes me realize:

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 6:59 AM

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lemme see if i can figure out how to get player name from slot

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 6:59 AM

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If you put any region pass items in your starting inventory, the first one will be chosen as your starting region.

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It would be pretty cool to start in a harder random region than the basic ones, but what's a good way to achieve that?

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Probably best to worry about it next month

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:01 AM

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you see where you commented out my homepoint unlock?

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there's an ancient reservoir pass right above that

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if you do something like that you can unrandomize your starting region and force anything

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:01 AM

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Yes, but I want it to still be random

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I just want it to be random and hard instead of random and easy

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:01 AM

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in v12 which isn't out yet it'll have a fully random starting region so long as at least 2 checks in the region can be completed with the items you start with

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:01 AM

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Sounds awesome

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:02 AM

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and if you random into open sea or deep sea or the depths you get a starting fish

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for reasons

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:02 AM

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What if instead I was put into neptune shrine with enough money to buy one item?

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Oh wait

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Then the one item must be a fish

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It can't be a warp because I also need the other region

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It'd have to be two items

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 7:03 AM

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the Neptune Shrine won't be picked bc atm our rules require that you have access to a region with combat of a similar level

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:03 AM

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Makes sense!

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 7:04 AM

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(except for the Mercury Shrine, bc that shop is cheap enough you can use your starting money)

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:04 AM

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some regions are also only options based on your settings, so mercury shrine wouldn't be a valid starter without shopsanity or ibek/owl in your starting inventory

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:04 AM

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All right, did I mess something else up or can we get started?

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:04 AM

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i don't know of any issues

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also

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updated for next release

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:04 AM

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Uh, we have Dr. Romulus, Emerassi, Dragons, Octy, Ixrec, Llisandur, me

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 7:05 AM

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i'm not allowed to emote react to people's messages in here either lmao

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anyways i'm excited

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:05 AM

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Oh yeah, we have a LOT of trolls since this is an MLP server, so we found that blocking people from reacting or adding pictures for two hours prevents most of them

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Let me manually give you the role you need

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 7:05 AM

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ahh that makes sense

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:06 AM

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Done

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Also, game is up!

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https://archipelago.gg/room/yZ5pjJzHRJCRChgHXrH0MQ

Archipelago

Multiworld yZ5pjJzHRJCRChgHXrH0MQ

12 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 39811

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I will update the pins then ping everyone

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Pin updated. Game is up with @cold valve, @fresh hill, @proven holly, @tender pelican, @modern ivy, @inner shoal and myself as players! Let me know if you need anything. I'll start with a short hike

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 7:10 AM

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i'll pop into Soul Blazer and see if i can get anyone something interesting

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:10 AM

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Ah fuck

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I continued a test save instead of starting a new game

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:11 AM

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did that instantly send a bunch of items?

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:11 AM

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Thankfully I only grabbed items that need zero items

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:11 AM

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oh phew

proven holly Dec 4, 2025, 7:12 AM

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starting strong today octy_jigsaw sent Progressive Power Bracelet to La DxRomulus (Merge 1 times)

cold valve Dec 4, 2025, 7:12 AM

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hell yeah

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:12 AM

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[2025-12-04 07:10:16,061]: (Team #1) FlitterASH sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to octy_jigsaw (West Waterfall Chest)
[2025-12-04 07:10:16,060]: (Team #1) FlitterASH sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw2 (West River Seashell)
Emejigsaw2?

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OH

cold valve Dec 4, 2025, 7:12 AM

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i would do my sphere 1 stuff now except i'm heading to bed and i have work in the morning

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:12 AM

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I put two copies of your YAML

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Yeah, we should probably do-over

cold valve Dec 4, 2025, 7:13 AM

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Twi_Spin

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:13 AM

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I should have been more thorough, sorry

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:14 AM

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no worries, painless to catch it this fast imo

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 7:14 AM

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i just died in the first dungeon X3

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:16 AM

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https://archipelago.gg/room/yZ5pjJzHRJCRChgHXrH0MQ

Archipelago

Multiworld yZ5pjJzHRJCRChgHXrH0MQ

12 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 39811

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I will wipe the older game to prevent confusion

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So it still says Emejigsaw1

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Is this intended?
name: EmeJigsaw{number}

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:19 AM

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yeah, i'm used to that

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:19 AM

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Okay

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If we didn't have it, Archipelago would have thrown an error on generation, I think

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Let's play again!

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:20 AM

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here's hoping my jigsaw picture of the month doesn't make me regret it with too much sky or fluffy grasses

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:21 AM

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This color scheme gives me Bayonetta vibes

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:22 AM

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oh yeah, totally agree

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this game (Where Winds Meet) is simultaneously a weird mess and also has totally sucked me in

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:23 AM

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Oh I figured it was uh

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Ghosts of Whatever

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Neat!

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:24 AM

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considering it's a free chinese mmo its a lot better than i expected

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it's also wild when somebody drives by on an in game mount that costs like 40,000 us dollars and you're like excuse me you paid HOW MUCH?

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:26 AM

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Is the mount made of counter strike knives?

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:26 AM

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lmao it should be

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:26 AM

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FlitterASH sent Mask_Shard to DragonsHK (Beach Hut Seashell)
FlitterASH sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Stick Under Sid Beach Umbrella)
FlitterASH sent Small Key (Tail Cave) to La DxRomulus (Sid Beach Chest)

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FlitterASH sent Item - Ganymede Stone to EmeCP (Caravan Arch Chest)

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A Short Hike is notorious for being extremely open very early on

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So as a rule I will not do more than 10% in a day. I will stop here

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Let's do Crystal Project. I have Proving Meadows as a starting region

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What an insane set of starting classes

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This is basically all I need

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:30 AM

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yeah that's solid!

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I started up Crystal Project and thought I hit a bug immediately but actually it was fine (spoiler for if you haven't done this version yet, but it won't be a spoiler like 1 minute after you start playing) || I expected to be teleported but I got Spawning Meadows as my starting region so this is fine actually... ||

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 7:32 AM

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midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:34 AM

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Thanks. I'm interested in attack and HP relics for now

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I got teleported. Is the start animation hardcoded or anything?

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:35 AM

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it isn't, we skip it on debug builds

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could skip it for everyone too if we wanted

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i didn't know if people would miss the cinematic drop in

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:36 AM

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I would never miss it.

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:37 AM

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ok finished up Spawning Meadows

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:37 AM

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I am also in BK mode

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:37 AM

#

#

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:38 AM

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Whoa, you put merchants inside the archipelago menu

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A lot more elegant than the NPC solution

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:38 AM

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agreed, although the npcs are cute so they're still the only option if regionsanity is off

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but if you get a starting region that sends you to timbuktu you'll be able to buy

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what did your starting region end up being this time?

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:40 AM

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Proving Meadows with six checks

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:42 AM

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that's a short one!

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:42 AM

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Tunic is next

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:42 AM

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it looks like your delende pass is on 6 grubs in hollow knight so that probably won't be too far off

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do we think Ixrec will get stuck with like 3% completion and unable to hint for the first item for a week+ this time?

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it would be a shame to break tradition

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:43 AM

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Ixrec is playing A Hat in Time

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Famously has very few key items

cold valve Dec 4, 2025, 7:44 AM

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it's gonna be my flippers or boots behind someone's endgame check

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:44 AM

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At least, aside from actual level unlocks

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I need to update my tunic randomizer

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I should be permitted to use the safety warp torch to burn grass

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:53 AM

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you saying that makes me want to tell people to go burn grass instead of touch grass

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:53 AM

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You can super get in trouble for even telling people to do it

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Flitter Tunic sent Progressive Power Bracelet to La DxRomulus (Overworld - [West] Key Pickup)

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I should NOT have enabled ladder storage

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:54 AM

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that's a lot of checks in logic!

proven holly Dec 4, 2025, 7:57 AM

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octy_jigsaw sent Item - Progressive Mount Instrument to FlitterFF5 (Merge 3 times)

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why does jigsaw prevent me from copying text in a box

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extremely annoying

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 7:57 AM

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yeahhh

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i've gotten very familiar with the win+shift+s hotkey to compensate

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:58 AM

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Thanks

proven holly Dec 4, 2025, 7:58 AM

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i am just gonna need to run textclient

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maybe i will PR later

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 7:58 AM

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This should give me the quintar, which should make it a lot easier to cheese the extreme license system

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 8:02 AM

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oh i forgot playing hollow knight would mean i needed to open a text client to copy what i sent people

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i found the Beaurior Key Ring for Flitter though

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that's early lol

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 8:06 AM

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Thanks!

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Flitter Tunic sent Progressive Power Bracelet to La DxRomulus (Overworld - [West] Key Pickup)

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Flitter Tunic sent Village Chief to DragonSoulBlazer (Overworld - [West] Obscured Behind Windmill)

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Flitter Tunic sent Mermaid Queen to DragonSoulBlazer (Overworld - [Southwest] Beach Chest Beneath Guard)
Flitter Tunic sent Shade_Soul to DragonsHK (Overworld - [Southwest] Chest Guarded By Turret)
Flitter Tunic sent Black Stone to DragonSoulBlazer (Ruined Shop - Chest 1)

Flitter Tunic sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmeCP (Overworld - [Southwest] South Chest Near Guard)
Flitter Tunic sent Item - Progressive Level to EmeCP (Ruined Shop - Chest 2)```

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 8:12 AM

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oh sweet, you found two of my soul blazer world leaders

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 8:12 AM

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Let's stop Tunic here for today, since it's already at 10%

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What do world leaders do?

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 8:14 AM

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in order to move from like world 1 to world 2, i need to talk to the world 1 leader (among other things)

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i don't remember all the steps that i need for each world, but thankfully poptracker remembers for me 😄

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 8:17 AM

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Oh like Spyro

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 8:18 AM

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i haven't played Spyro, but from what i know of it, i'd probably enjoy it

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ok i've stayed up much too late but i finished what i could of the Crossroads in HK before someone infected it XD

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phew

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 8:18 AM

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✏️ 🗒️ writing down xmas present ideas

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 8:19 AM

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It's an incredible game series. The remastered trilogy kind of missed the genius of the original's art direction but it's otherwise faithful and solid

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 8:19 AM

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hmm is there a apworld for the originals or the new ones?

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looks like some of the playstation versions have apworlds

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that could be fun

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 8:25 AM

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I kind of don't like the developer because they were rather mean

proven holly Dec 4, 2025, 8:31 AM

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octy_jigsaw sent Item - Vermillion Book to FlitterFF5 (Merge 15 times) and BK'd, won't hint anything yet since jigsaw

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 8:56 AM

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Thanks. I need all three books to enter the ice block puzzle area

fresh hill Dec 4, 2025, 12:23 PM

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ok, AHiT seems to be working

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Ixhat sent Mantis_Claw to DragonsHK (Mafia Town - Blue Vault)

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what a start

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Ixhat sent Love_Key to DragonsHK (Mafia Town - Dweller Boxes)

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Ixhat sent Hibiscus to La DxRomulus (Mafia Town - Camera Badge 1)

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Ixhat sent Item - The Open Sea Pass to EmeCP (Mafia Town - Cargo Ship)

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Ixhat sent Grandpa for South-East Lake to DragonSoulBlazer (Mafia Town - Yellow Sphere Building Chest)

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@inner shoal apparently my entire shop is yours, what do you want? ppenk

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Ixhat sent City_Storerooms_Stag to DragonsHK (Act Completion (Barrel Battle))

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I'm gonna stop there with less than half of MT cleared because this was a ridiculous start

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 12:39 PM

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No items for me?

fresh hill Dec 4, 2025, 12:39 PM

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technically:
Ixhat sent Item - Scroll to FlitterFF5 (Mafia Town - Staircase Pon Cluster)
Ixhat sent Golden Coin to Flitter Tunic (Mafia Town - Beneath Scaffolding)

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 12:43 PM

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Thanks

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Scrolls are completely worthless. I couldn't use them if I tried

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 6:49 PM

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fresh hill <@165975117027868672> apparently my entire shop is yours, what do you want? <:pp...

ooo dragons is always telling me how much they love it when someone sends them the dream nail early and then they have to 'do all those annoying tree checks'

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the pass/sword/armor are all pretty value though

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 9:00 PM

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fresh hill <@165975117027868672> apparently my entire shop is yours, what do you want? <:pp...

i have approximately a billion things unlocked in hollow knight rn so can probably skip those for now lol
"a pass" is necessary and is used in World 1 iirc so that's the most important
armor and sword would be great bc i am very bad and keep running into things and dying XD
i will need every Dancing Grandma, but they're for unlocking World 5 (and i have to unlock every world in order) so you can wait on that

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this game always makes me laugh

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alrighty, i'm in BK mode on Soul Blazer again (really all i did today was watch some cutscenes for the things other people sent me lol) and i got a bunch of stuff done in HK yesterday, so i'll take a break today
if anyone needs something i can go grab it though 👍

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Hi

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I have one more Crystal Project check

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Fuck, I forgot that I actually need two mounts to get flute access

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 10:02 PM

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FlitterASH sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to La DxRomulus (Visitor's Center Shop Golden Feather 1)

FlitterASH sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (North Beach Seashell)x2

FlitterASH sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to octy_jigsaw (Tough Bird Salesman Golden Feather 2)

FlitterASH sent Thunder Ring to DragonSoulBlazer (Stone Tower Golden Chest)
FlitterASH sent Gourmet Goat to DragonSoulBlazer (Outlook Cliff Golden Feather)```

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I have updated my hints on Cheese Tracker

inner shoal Dec 4, 2025, 10:33 PM

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proven holly Dec 4, 2025, 11:00 PM

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octy_jigsaw sent Item - Okimoto N.S. Pass to EmeCP (Merge 27 times)
octy_jigsaw sent Soul_Catcher to DragonsHK (Merge 29 times)

modern ivy Dec 4, 2025, 11:04 PM

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ok lisandur got this not me but it's fun to see the impact of the progressive+useful on some key items

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really pops if someone is using the combo color

midnight depot Dec 4, 2025, 11:10 PM

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Oh cool

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NOW I have the quintar

proven holly Dec 5, 2025, 12:26 AM

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octy_jigsaw sent Item - East Wing Key to EmeCP (Merge 31 times)
octy_jigsaw sent Item - Clamshell to EmeCP (Merge 33 times)

midnight depot Dec 5, 2025, 9:47 PM

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Hi

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Let's play a short hike

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Thanks for two golden feathers, running shoes

inner shoal Dec 5, 2025, 9:56 PM

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oh the running shoes were for A Short Hike! i only glanced at the item name and thought they were for pokemon lol

midnight depot Dec 5, 2025, 10:04 PM

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It's a short hike because I nyoom

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FlitterASH sent Spirit Sword to DragonSoulBlazer (Permit Guy Bribe)
FlitterASH sent Soldier Guarding Right Tower to DragonSoulBlazer (Blackwood Trail Rock Toy Shovel)
FlitterASH sent Soldier with Item Underfoot to DragonSoulBlazer (Taylor the Turtle Headband Gift)
FlitterASH sent Queen's_Gardens_Stag to DragonsHK (Blackwood Cliff Chest)

FlitterASH sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Meteor Lake Seashell)

FlitterASH sent Seashell to La DxRomulus (Bill the Walrus Fisherman)

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Crystal Project next

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I should probably have not picked two games with bad controller support

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I beat this motherfucker and he's still blocking the way

midnight depot Dec 5, 2025, 11:05 PM

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All 106 accessible locations have been checked! Congrats!

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FlitterFF5 sent Pegasus Boots to La DxRomulus (Capital Sequoia Chest - By Master Warrior atop the Luxury Store)
FlitterFF5 sent Necklace to La DxRomulus (Greenshire Reprise Chest - Jump off bridge 3)

FlitterFF5 sent Item - Viridian Book to EmeCP (Capital Sequoia Chest - Magic store attic)
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Sara Sara Beach West Pass to EmeCP (Capital Sequoia Chest - Master Wizard's Library atop Weapons R Us)
FlitterFF5 sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Capital Sequoia Crystal - Beatsmith)x3

FlitterFF5 sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to octy_jigsaw (Quintar Nest Chest - North Donut Lake sprinkle)x2

FlitterFF5 sent Emblem G to DragonSoulBlazer (Skumparadise Chest - There and back again)

FlitterFF5 sent Ice Hat to Ixhat (Skumparadise Chest - Ride the shroom)

FlitterFF5 sent Good Rod to LlisandurPKMN2 (Skumparadise Crystal - Aegis)

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Lots of big ticket items, especially for Dr Romulus

modern ivy Dec 5, 2025, 11:34 PM

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lol wait what happened to the skumparadise guard?!

proven holly Dec 5, 2025, 11:35 PM

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octy_jigsaw sent Wristwatch to FlitterASH (Merge 55 times)
octy_jigsaw sent Item - Clamshell to EmeCP (Merge 57 times)

midnight depot Dec 5, 2025, 11:44 PM

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modern ivy lol wait what happened to the skumparadise guard?!

1- I beat him and walked in yesterday, got teleported back, then saved at the Delende Waterfall spot and closed the game.
2- When I got back the day after, I was teleported back to proving meadows after the 10 seconds were up. The guard was stuck

modern ivy Dec 6, 2025, 12:25 AM

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hmmm i wonder how i could fix that

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thanks for the heads up

midnight depot Dec 6, 2025, 12:26 AM

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In this case it was fine because I had owl and just flew up

modern ivy Dec 6, 2025, 12:27 AM

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good to know

midnight depot Dec 6, 2025, 12:28 AM

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The simplest way I can think of to solve it is just by changing his flag so he moves every time he says "you're worthy" instead of upon getting beaten

cold valve Dec 6, 2025, 12:46 AM

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let's play ladx

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wow, ressurecting the rooster as my second check

inner shoal Dec 6, 2025, 12:54 AM

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oh cool, someone found me the Soul of Light and the Spirit Sword, so i can finish the Temple of Light

inner shoal Dec 6, 2025, 12:54 AM

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cold valve wow, ressurecting the rooster as my second check

why are you resurrecting a rooster lmao?

cold valve Dec 6, 2025, 12:55 AM

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cuz it's dead

inner shoal Dec 6, 2025, 1:05 AM

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trixiegrump

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lmao that emote is hilarious

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also apparently i Don't have the Soul of Light and poptracker is just trolling me, but i did almost the whole place anyway in the dark o7

modern ivy Dec 6, 2025, 1:08 AM

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proven holly Dec 6, 2025, 1:09 AM

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octy_jigsaw sent Item - Jade Cavern Pass to EmeCP (Merge 75 times)

cold valve Dec 6, 2025, 1:57 AM

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Almost BK, but i have to go see a movie

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i got a ton of stuff, some of it even useful!

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La DxRomulus sent Item - Cobblestone Crag Pass to FlitterFF5 (Moblin Cave (Tal Tal Heights))
La DxRomulus sent Item - Poko Poko Desert Pass to EmeCP (Lone Bush (Martha's Bay))
La DxRomulus sent Boss_Essence-No_Eyes to DragonsHK (Two Zol, Moblin Chest (Mysterious Woods))
La DxRomulus sent Seashell to FlitterASH (Toadstool (Mysterious Woods))
La DxRomulus sent Job - Monk to FlitterFF5 (Write Cave East (Goponga Swamp))
La DxRomulus sent Item - Ancient Tablet A to FlitterFF5 (Swampy Chest (Goponga Swamp))
La DxRomulus sent Old Rod to LlisandurPKMN2 (Mad Batter (Mysterious Woods))
La DxRomulus sent Relic (Green Crayon) to Ixhat (Rock Seashell (Donut Plains))
La DxRomulus sent Baldur_Shell to DragonsHK (Grandma (Animal Village))
La DxRomulus sent Fragile_Greed to DragonsHK (Cave East of Mabe (Ukuku Prairie))
La DxRomulus sent Item - Proving Meadows Pass to EmeCP (Lanmola (Yarna Desert))
La DxRomulus sent Item - Undersea Crab to FlitterFF5 (Cave Under Lanmola (Yarna Desert))
La DxRomulus sent Item - The Chalice of Tar Pass to FlitterFF5 (Graveyard Connector (Koholint Prairie))
La DxRomulus sent Item - Undersea Crab to FlitterFF5 (Two Stalfos Key (Bottle Grotto))
La DxRomulus sent Zipline Unlock - The Twilight Bell Path to Ixhat (Enemy Order Room Chest (Bottle Grotto))
La DxRomulus sent Item - Dog Bone to FlitterFF5 (Watery Statue Chest (Angler's Tunnel))
La DxRomulus sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to EmeCP (Boots Chest (Key Cavern))

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not sending puzzle pieces or rancid eggs

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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Face Key is at The Undercity NPC - Gold hiding from the bats under the awning in FlitterFF5's World. (priority)
[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Bird Key is at Pokedex - Poliwag in LlisandurPKMN2's World at Route 1 (Land), Route 27 (Surf), Town Headbutt Trees (Rare). (priority)
[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Flippers is at Okimoto N.S. Chest - Moth love lamp in FlitterFF5's World. (priority)
[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Nightmare Key (Tail Cave) is at Grass Valley - Teddy's Item in DragonSoulBlazer's World. (priority)

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41.8% wow

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well this game is pretty front heavy

proven holly Dec 6, 2025, 2:20 AM

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octy_jigsaw sent Golden Feather to FlitterASH (Merge 87 times)
octy_jigsaw sent Sword Upgrade to Flitter Tunic (Merge 91 times)
octy_jigsaw sent Item - Elevator Part to FlitterFF5 (Merge 93 times)

midnight depot Dec 6, 2025, 2:23 AM

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Nice! Swords and golden feathers are very valuable

modern ivy Dec 7, 2025, 6:31 AM

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forgot to open up my thing text client right away again

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sent 3 mystery items, one of them was an effigy i think that was prog?

midnight depot Dec 7, 2025, 6:48 AM

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Cool! Tunic effigies are very

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I forgot what they do

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Oh they give money

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Very much entirely useless

modern ivy Dec 7, 2025, 6:49 AM

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haha ah well

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i just had to figure out how to clear out many checks in the undercity without a mount and it turns out i am very not good at it

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looking forward to the shoudu rework proving hints on how to move through subregions

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midnight depot Dec 7, 2025, 6:50 AM

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Ooh nice

fresh hill Dec 7, 2025, 6:50 AM

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unless you're the kind of player who does effigy skip

midnight depot Dec 7, 2025, 6:50 AM

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You know what crystal project needs

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A mod that will put signs pointing out the dumb shoudu jumps you have to do to navigate

fresh hill Dec 7, 2025, 6:51 AM

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more crystals?

midnight depot Dec 7, 2025, 6:51 AM

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Instead of me having to remember them all

modern ivy Dec 7, 2025, 6:51 AM

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that would be pretty handy indeed

midnight depot Dec 7, 2025, 6:51 AM

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fresh hill more crystals?

It has hundreds of those through other mods

modern ivy Dec 7, 2025, 6:52 AM

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midnight depot Dec 7, 2025, 6:52 AM

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Thanks

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Here's a copy of the game log so far

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📎 message.txt

modern ivy Dec 7, 2025, 6:54 AM

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cold valve Dec 7, 2025, 7:02 AM

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those are gold skulltula tokens, they are not important

modern ivy Dec 7, 2025, 7:04 AM

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nod nod so you want to hear about every single one, got it

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(but actually throwing in the puzzle piece, clamshell, etc bin where it belongs, noted)

midnight depot Dec 7, 2025, 11:32 PM

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Hi

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Today I will Tunic

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Fuck, I forgot how to do ladder storage

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Oh yeah, it's easy

midnight depot Dec 8, 2025, 1:03 AM

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That's enough for now

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Flitter Tunic sent Zephyr Badge to LlisandurPKMN2 (West Garden - [West] Past Flooded Walkway)

Flitter Tunic sent Sprint Hat to Ixhat (West Garden - [West Highlands] Upper Left Walkway)
Flitter Tunic sent Relic (Tin-foil Hat Cow) to Ixhat (Quarry - [East] Upper Floor)

Flitter Tunic sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to octy_jigsaw (Shop - Potion 1)x4

Flitter Tunic sent Item - Gardeners Key to EmeCP (Fortress Courtyard - Below Walkway)
Flitter Tunic sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Beneath the Fortress - Cell Chest 1)x2

Flitter Tunic sent Shovel to La DxRomulus (Overworld - [East] Chest Near Pots)```

inner shoal Dec 8, 2025, 1:32 AM

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what's ladder storage?

midnight depot Dec 8, 2025, 1:36 AM

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Ladder storage is when you do an action like attacking with a weapon while at the same time grabbing a ladder

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This places you in a hybrid state where you are both climbing and moving around

fresh hill Dec 8, 2025, 1:37 AM

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I never did learn Tunic ladder storage, but that sounds awfully similar to Nine Sols ledge storage cocothink

midnight depot Dec 8, 2025, 1:38 AM

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You can move anywhere you like in that state with no regard for floors

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You may not move vertically except by walking on a slope that takes you up. You may not pass through walls

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And if you ever let go of the run button, you will be teleported back to the ladder you started at

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If you get hit by an enemy during this state, it's cancelled with no teleportation! You just fall directly down

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Practically speaking it's used to cross gaps or go down vertically without having to path there

inner shoal Dec 8, 2025, 2:23 AM

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ohhh that's neat

inner shoal Dec 8, 2025, 3:16 AM

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oo i haven't seen one of the gold items when i pick up a check before

midnight depot Dec 8, 2025, 3:29 AM

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Holy cross is big!

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It's both progression and useful

inner shoal Dec 8, 2025, 3:32 AM

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yay! :>

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fresh hill Dec 8, 2025, 3:35 AM

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geez I'm gonna have nearly every hat for session 2

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(eventually I'll finish Metroid and come back to this)

inner shoal Dec 8, 2025, 3:40 AM

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inner shoal Dec 8, 2025, 3:57 AM

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i haven't done many asyncs, but i've never done an async before where like almost all my Hollow Knight movement options are unlocked from the start and i just have to put the controller down instead of playing for several more hours 😄
it's definitely more relaxing lol

fresh hill Dec 8, 2025, 4:14 AM

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fwiw that's never happened to me when I brought HK

midnight depot Dec 8, 2025, 4:42 AM

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I try to lock my seeds down as much as possible so that I keep my playtime short each day

inner shoal Dec 8, 2025, 4:54 AM

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i will never be in danger of Soul Blazer having too many checks available at once though lol

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one async i was in, i could not get out of the Forgotten Crossroads for quite a long time

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eventually someone found me Isma's Tear and i was permitted to escape

midnight depot Dec 8, 2025, 5:02 AM

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Did you know you can crystal dash double jump out instead of Isma's tear to get out of the forgotten crossroads?

inner shoal Dec 8, 2025, 5:28 AM

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i think just double jump is enough to get out? 🤔
i'm not sure i've Ever gotten the crystal dash first though haha

midnight depot Dec 8, 2025, 5:29 AM

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Might be single jump then

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I'm talking about the little acid path to mushroom land

inner shoal Dec 8, 2025, 5:30 AM

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ohh wow through there? impressive

midnight depot Dec 8, 2025, 5:33 AM

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It's a tight squeeze but surprisingly possible

modern ivy Dec 8, 2025, 9:27 PM

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fresh hill Dec 9, 2025, 1:24 AM

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inner shoal i have approximately a billion things unlocked in hollow knight rn so can probab...

turns out people found enough of my money that I just bought out the whole shop, so much for prioritizing lol

inner shoal Dec 9, 2025, 1:25 AM

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😆

fresh hill Dec 9, 2025, 1:25 AM

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post-shop:
Ixhat sent Sleeping Dolphin to DragonSoulBlazer (Mafia Town - Crow Chest)

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Ixhat sent Small Key (Face Shrine) to La DxRomulus (Mafia Town - Chest Beneath Aqueduct)

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Ixhat sent Item - Sara Sara Beach East Pass to EmeCP (Mafia Town - Red Vault)

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Ixhat sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmeCP (Mafia Town - Behind Faucet)

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Ixhat sent Bridge Guard to DragonSoulBlazer (Mafia Town - Docks Chest)

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Ixhat sent A.Leaf to DragonSoulBlazer (Mafia Town - Beach Alcove)

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Ixhat sent Spark Bomb to DragonSoulBlazer (Mafia Town - Palm Tree)

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is anything in this game not progression ppenk

inner shoal Dec 9, 2025, 1:42 AM

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hahaha there are some things, but a lot of the items unlock one single check or something like that

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and then only a handful of progression items are useful enough to unlock the next world or an entire dungeon

fresh hill Dec 9, 2025, 1:44 AM

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would those be easy for us to learn or should we just treat this as a game like SC2 where posting individual items is not worth it rdsnrk

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Ixhat sent Hero Relic - DEF to Flitter Tunic (Act Completion (Time Rift - Sewers))

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Ixhat sent Small Key (Angler's Tunnel) to La DxRomulus (Snatcher's Contract - Mail Delivery Service)

modern ivy Dec 9, 2025, 2:02 AM

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other than swords and armors there's little rhyme or reason to the soul blazer madness

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or souls of 'x'

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if it's a named person or someone who sounds important it's more likely that they are

fresh hill Dec 9, 2025, 2:03 AM

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Ixhat sent Item - Progressive Level to FlitterFF5 (Picture Perfect - Behind Badge Seller)

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Ixhat sent Item - Special Fresh Salmon to EmeCP (Bon Voyage! - Mafia Cargo Ship)

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Ixhat sent Item - Soiled Den Pass to FlitterFF5 (The Arctic Cruise - Silver Ring)

modern ivy Dec 9, 2025, 2:10 AM

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egg lol

fresh hill Dec 9, 2025, 2:20 AM

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and stopping there for tonight

midnight depot Dec 9, 2025, 2:21 AM

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fresh hill `Ixhat sent Item - Soiled Den Pass to FlitterFF5 (The Arctic Cruise - Silver Rin...

I think I can reach that in ten seconds

fresh hill Dec 9, 2025, 2:21 AM

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slot's at 20% now, got all the easy checks in Mafia Town and Subcon Forest and Arctic Cruise, and the other big areas aren't open yet

proven holly Dec 9, 2025, 4:53 AM

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octy_jigsaw sent Time Piece to Ixhat (Merge 117 times)

modern ivy Dec 9, 2025, 7:49 PM

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so many zones have opened up for me

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ok break time for me

fresh hill Dec 9, 2025, 8:22 PM

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I have 2 out of more-than-2 for so many relic combos

modern ivy Dec 9, 2025, 8:44 PM

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haha

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who is this izzy and why do they scrunch

fresh hill Dec 9, 2025, 9:02 PM

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oh no

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Nyakuza Metro is in logic

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it's time for ✨ shop scouts ✨

inner shoal Dec 9, 2025, 9:08 PM

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modern ivy who is this izzy and why do they scrunch

i have no idea but izzy was making the face i wanted haha

fresh hill Dec 9, 2025, 9:09 PM

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Izzy is one of the main ponies in G5

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Ixhat sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to La DxRomulus (Act Completion (Nyakuza Metro Intro))

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ok, the prog items in all of the "free" Metro shops are:

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I'm gonna just buy Boomerang now; I may not have played LADX but I have played Zelda before

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Ixhat sent Boomerang to La DxRomulus (Main Station Thug B - Item 2)

modern ivy Dec 9, 2025, 9:53 PM

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i should add an LTTP next time

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that way the boomerang can troll everyone by being almost useless

cold valve Dec 9, 2025, 10:35 PM

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The boomerang in LADX is not required for anything but it does make a lot of shit easier

modern ivy Dec 9, 2025, 11:45 PM

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modern ivy Dec 10, 2025, 12:14 AM

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ok finally bk'd

midnight depot Dec 10, 2025, 6:04 AM

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Hi

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Let's play video games

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Thanks for wristwatch, golden feathers, headband, progressive fishing, pickaxe, silver feather(!), toy shovel

proven holly Dec 10, 2025, 6:17 AM

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wow i just hit some kind of jigsaw flowstate, i got like 1/5 of the puzzle done in 10 minutes

octy_jigsaw sent Scholar - Reverse Polarity to EmeCP (Merge 139 times)
octy_jigsaw sent Item - Special Shoudu Stew to EmeCP (Merge 165 times)

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octy_jigsaw sent Golden Feather to FlitterASH (Merge 189 times)

midnight depot Dec 10, 2025, 6:35 AM

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Thanks

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FlitterASH sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Good Creek Path West Chest)x2

FlitterASH sent Ivy to Hideout Crystal to DragonSoulBlazer (Secret Island Beach Trail Stick)

modern ivy Dec 10, 2025, 6:38 AM

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woot for flute

midnight depot Dec 10, 2025, 6:42 AM

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Oh Crystal Project is suddenly super open

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"You're on thin ice"

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Doesn't look very thin to me

modern ivy Dec 10, 2025, 6:48 AM

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lol it sure doesn't

midnight depot Dec 10, 2025, 7:12 AM

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Half an hour after I started, I am finally done with the backlog of items sent and received

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Is the merchant supposed to sell rabbit claws? That seems like it should be a progression item and I have merchants unshuffled

proven holly Dec 10, 2025, 7:27 AM

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octy_jigsaw sent Golden Coin to Flitter Tunic (Merge 199 times)

midnight depot Dec 10, 2025, 7:29 AM

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Thanks. I need a bunch of those for my Hero's Laurels

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My client crashed

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In addition to this message it's also completely unresponsive

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So I guess we won't know what I actually found, but it was quite a few progression items!

modern ivy Dec 10, 2025, 6:26 PM

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i don't think we made rabbit's claws progression because you don't actually need either of the shortcuts to get anywhere

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 3:36 AM

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modern ivy i don't think we made rabbit's claws progression because you don't actually need...

That would normally be true

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But with extreme regions, what are your options to bypass it?

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There's going through the cave to the north and emerging out from the other side, which takes longer than ten seconds. There's using a quintar which requires having one. There's going through seaside cliffs which also takes longer than ten seconds unless you have an owl or golden quintar

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 3:58 AM

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with the shortcut NPCs, afaict you have to get to where they are to convince them to drop down, rabbit claws or otherwise
and them dropping down just gives you a shortcut from somewhere you've already been
so no progression involved

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 4:09 AM

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Oh you're right!

modern ivy Dec 11, 2025, 4:12 AM

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ok drabbits

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bust out

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your delende map

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do it

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 4:13 AM

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lmao um

modern ivy Dec 11, 2025, 4:13 AM

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someone spent a long long time testing things lol

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might as well share it

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 4:13 AM

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you know, some of the other ones look nicer
and don't have "i gave up" in the corner lksdjflksdj

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it really is neat finding all the different ways you can get across the map

modern ivy Dec 11, 2025, 4:15 AM

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i think the pink route is the simplest one to explain but i find myself taking the green route most runs

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 4:16 AM

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though it is very difficult to minimize my scope to one region when i'm trying to refactor it 😅 just.. so much interconnectedness

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who made this game open world lol

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 4:16 AM

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That's what makes the game so beautiful

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 4:17 AM

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it's really neat! i'm glad our friend suggested making an Archipelago mod for it, i hadn't heard of Crystal Project before that

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 4:18 AM

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Speaking of Crystal Project

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Let's play Tunic

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 4:19 AM

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😁

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 4:20 AM

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One funny trick the Tunic randomizer does is when you launch the game it teleports you to various places with a black screen

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Then when it has all the assets it needs loaded in memory, it takes you back to the main menu

modern ivy Dec 11, 2025, 4:22 AM

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oh lol that is funny

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 4:22 AM

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ha!

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 4:26 AM

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The real loading screen is me trying to figure out the specific ritual to get my PS5 controller to work with this game

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 4:26 AM

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oh boy

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 4:29 AM

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[2025-12-11 04:27:30,333]: (Team #1) Flitter Tunic sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to octy_jigsaw (Coins in the Well - 6 Coins)

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Let's see

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I have the holy cross, money to buy stat upgrades, not much else

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Flitter Tunic sent Sleeping Tulip to DragonSoulBlazer (Overworld - [Northeast] Chest Above Patrol Cave)
Flitter Tunic sent Item - Pyramid Key to EmeCP (Overworld - [Northwest] Golden Obelisk Page)

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Apparently the entrance does not extend that far up

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 5:03 AM

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Flitter Tunic sent Item - Special Rotten Salmon to EmeCP (Forest Grave Path - Obscured Chest)


Flitter Tunic sent Sharp_Shadow to DragonsHK (Overworld - [Northeast] Flowers Holy Cross)
Flitter Tunic sent Great Door with Soul to DragonSoulBlazer (Forest Belltower - Near Save Point)
Flitter Tunic sent Master Crystal Deer to DragonSoulBlazer (East Forest - Near Telescope)
Flitter Tunic sent Godtuner to DragonsHK (East Forest - From Guardhouse 1 Chest)
You didn't lock any checks behind Godhome, did you?
Flitter Tunic sent Common House Top Mermaid with Gift to DragonSoulBlazer (East Forest - Page On Teleporter)
Flitter Tunic sent Steps to the Attic to DragonSoulBlazer (Forest Grave Path - Above Gate)
Flitter Tunic sent West Crocodile to DragonSoulBlazer (Forest Grave Path - Upper Walkway)
Flitter Tunic sent Sleeping Soldier to DragonSoulBlazer (East Forest - Above Save Point Obscured)
Flitter Tunic sent Stag_Nest_Stag to DragonsHK (East Forest - Above Save Point)
Flitter Tunic sent Unbreakable_Greed to DragonsHK (Guardhouse 1 - Upper Floor Obscured)

Flitter Tunic sent Nightmare Key (Face Shrine) to La DxRomulus (Guardhouse 1 - Upper Floor)```

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I think my game wants Dragons to play

modern ivy Dec 11, 2025, 5:25 AM

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lol godtuner

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what an item

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 5:30 AM

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You didn't lock any checks behind Godhome, did you?
lmfao i definitely did not

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 5:30 AM

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I'm not sure why this is marked out of logic

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 5:31 AM

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beaurior's on the list to be reworked, i believe at the moment it expects you to come up through the dungeon

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 5:31 AM

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That would make sense

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 5:33 AM

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i've been procrastinating on doing beaurior.. and shoudu...... lol

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i'm hoping to get them in for version 12 though

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 5:44 AM

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I have somehow gotten into this room but the state of the game is such that the other mushrooms are stuck unmoving.

inner shoal Dec 11, 2025, 5:54 AM

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ah, no region pass for the castle? or is some other thing happening

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 5:54 AM

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FlitterFF5 sent Item - Red Door Key to EmeCP (The Chalice of Tar Chest - Post tar tunnel)
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Luxury Key to EmeCP (The Chalice of Tar Region Completion)
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Jidamba Eaclaneya Pass to EmeCP (Quintar Sanctum NPC - Silver almost to the top)

FlitterFF5 sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to octy_jigsaw (Beaurior Volcano Crystal - Valkyrie)x4

FlitterFF5 sent Boulder Badge to LlisandurPKMN2 (Cobblestone Crag Boss - Crag Demon)
FlitterFF5 sent Red Scale to LlisandurPKMN2 (Overpass Chest - Glide SW from top of shrine 2)

FlitterFF5 sent Small Key (Tail Cave) to La DxRomulus (Sara Sara Beach East NPC - Silver glittering in the sun at Ibek Cave exit 2)

FlitterFF5 sent Whispering_Root-Waterways to DragonsHK (Tall, Tall Heights Chest - Above the Boomer Society)

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Little bit of stuff for everyone

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[Hint]: FlitterFF5's Item - Clamshell is at Ruined Atoll - [North] From Lower Overworld Entrance in Flitter Tunic's World. (priority)
[Hint]: FlitterFF5's Item - Progressive Mount Instrument is at Jidamba Tangle NPC - Chloe Queen of the Canopy in FlitterFF5's World. (priority)
[Hint]: FlitterFF5's Item - Jidamba Tangle Pass is at Overworld - [South] Beach Page in Flitter Tunic's World. (priority)
And all my items are in my game

modern ivy Dec 11, 2025, 6:24 PM

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Rancid egg being prog is so rude

midnight depot Dec 11, 2025, 6:24 PM

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Especially considering there is an infinite source of them

proven holly Dec 11, 2025, 6:50 PM

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they need to condition it on certain settings I think but it makes sense if you need them for a shop

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waterways usually opens up pretty late for me

fresh hill Dec 11, 2025, 7:12 PM

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I wish it was easier to say "shop rando but just geo"

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when anything costs eggs you just end up staring at Tuk for an hour

proven holly Dec 11, 2025, 7:26 PM

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i legit didnt even know they existed lol

midnight depot Dec 12, 2025, 1:50 PM

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Hi

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Let's play a short hike

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FlitterASH sent Item - Neptune Shrine Pass to EmeCP (Blocked Mine Pickaxe 1)

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FlitterASH sent HM02 Fly to LlisandurPKMN2 (Airstream Island Chest)
FlitterASH sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to octy_jigsaw (Bucket Path Chest)```

midnight depot Dec 12, 2025, 3:18 PM

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As a bonus I did a bit of Crystal Project and got some progression checks which I will not tell you about

inner shoal Dec 12, 2025, 11:24 PM

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https://tenor.com/view/frodo-keep-your-secrets-alright-then-lotr-gif-12907121

Tenor

cold valve Dec 13, 2025, 12:21 AM

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let's play ladx

cold valve Dec 13, 2025, 12:56 AM

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BK'd, nothing worth posting

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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Face Key is at The Undercity NPC - Gold hiding from the bats under the awning in FlitterFF5's World. (priority)
[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Bird Key is at Pokedex - Poliwag in LlisandurPKMN2's World at Route 1 (Land), Route 27 (Surf), Town Headbutt Trees (Rare). (priority)
[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Flippers is at Okimoto N.S. Chest - Moth love lamp in FlitterFF5's World. (priority)
[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Nightmare Key (Tail Cave) is at Grass Valley - Teddy's Item in DragonSoulBlazer's World. (priority)
[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Nightmare Key (Bottle Grotto) is at Yamagawa M.A. Chest - Hidden stairway in FlitterFF5's World. (priority)

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 6:18 PM

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let's BK AHiT

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I have so many relics now geez

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and I can only make the crayon box for now

modern ivy Dec 13, 2025, 6:28 PM

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gonna play some CP and see if i can find Ixrec something better to eat than crayons

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 6:30 PM

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Ixhat sent Item - Progressive Luxury Pass to FlitterFF5 (Tour - Page: Dead Bird Studio - Fragile Box)

modern ivy Dec 13, 2025, 6:36 PM

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ok i re-bk'd and didn't find anything, you're stuck with the crayons for now

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 6:48 PM

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Tour rift is one of the worst places to find a parade trap

modern ivy Dec 13, 2025, 6:50 PM

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what's a parade trap do

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and what about tour rift makes it extra bad

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 6:50 PM

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have you played vanilla AHiT?

modern ivy Dec 13, 2025, 6:51 PM

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i have but it was quite some time ago

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 6:53 PM

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do you remember The Big Parade level where DJ Grooves wants you to run around all the rooftops in a marching band uniform flipping switches while a bunch of birds playing instruments follow close behind, doing damage if they ever catch up?

modern ivy Dec 13, 2025, 6:59 PM

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oh yes

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oh god so it's don't let the chasing guys reach you as a trap

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 6:59 PM

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yep

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which tbf is one of my favorite traps in any AP game I've played, it's so rare that any trap is more interesting than "you die now"

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but Tour rift is loooooong, and parade trap doesn't end until you die or finish the level

midnight depot Dec 13, 2025, 7:00 PM

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I like Crystal Project's dunk trap

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Which picks a random body of water and dunks you in it

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 7:00 PM

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I dunno how those parade birds follow me between dimensions but they do

midnight depot Dec 13, 2025, 7:00 PM

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I have not tried it because I am an enemy of traps

modern ivy Dec 13, 2025, 7:01 PM

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there's a few too many crystal project traps that just annoy me instead of being interesting for me to use them when i'm not just testing them currently

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teleport, dunk tank, moon jump and crag demon are fun but i don't really like the rest of them

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'what if you were slow' for example

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not actually fun!

midnight depot Dec 13, 2025, 7:02 PM

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My favorite trap is when the game shows item received messages for half an hour straight

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Blocking my view of the world

modern ivy Dec 13, 2025, 7:03 PM

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lol rip

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can't disable that trap yet

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i mean

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if you want to cheese it open game, save, then reload save and they all go away

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but yeah that's on the list of things we gotta solve eventually

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 7:04 PM

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both of my AP mods ended up with a clientside option to stop displaying any AP server messages

modern ivy Dec 13, 2025, 7:11 PM

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that makes sense

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 7:17 PM

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ok Murder on the Owl Express has crashed twice in a row so we're just gonna ignore that level for now

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but it looks like Mafia HQ and Metro are the only areas I have left in logic

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ooooor I could randomly unlock Dead Bird Basement

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we are not BKing this today

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Ixhat sent Item - Progressive Luxury Pass to FlitterFF5 (Yellow Overpass Thug C - Item 4)

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fortunately parade traps do pause in shop menus

modern ivy Dec 13, 2025, 7:47 PM

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lmao good to know you don't die for opening a menu

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 7:48 PM

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Ixhat sent Whispering_Root-Mantis_Village to DragonsHK (Act Completion (Green Clean Station))

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barren session today

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that's Metro clear except for shop checks

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don't feel like DBB today, but let's give Owl Express one last chance

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@tender pelican
[Hint]: Ixhat's Progressive Painting Unlock is at Toroia Castle -- Treasury -- top row, 1 in LlisandurFF4's World. (priority)
[Hint]: Ixhat's Dweller Mask is at Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 5F -- right in LlisandurFF4's World. (priority)

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@midnight depot
[Hint]: Ixhat's Metro Ticket - Pink is at Jidamba Tangle Chest - Underground sneaky passage by NE cave exit in FlitterFF5's World. (priority)

midnight depot Dec 13, 2025, 7:52 PM

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I'll get it when I can

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 7:53 PM

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the paintings unlock more regions of Subcon Forest, and the Metro Tickets more regions of Metro; I already have entrances into those areas so if I get them I can use them immediately (unlike Zipline Unlocks atm)

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and I think my entire Alpine Skyline is hiding in the telescope that's locked behind Dweller Mask

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Ixhat sent Item - The Old World Pass to FlitterFF5 (Murder on the Owl Express - Luggage Room Top)

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woo finally a real item

midnight depot Dec 13, 2025, 8:08 PM

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The luxury pass has more checks behind it

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Luxury Pass 1 has three shops. Luxury pass 2 has three shops plus some chests if you have the luxury key.

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 8:09 PM

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Ixhat sent Item - Pyramid Key to FlitterFF5 (Act Completion (Murder on the Owl Express))

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ending on a high note

midnight depot Dec 13, 2025, 8:09 PM

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Old world pass + old world stone has 1 check (a secret!)

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The pyramid key is quite convenient

fresh hill Dec 13, 2025, 8:09 PM

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36%, behind the multiworld's 42%

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the locations I haven't done but could do appear to total 20-25 or 6-7%, so I would be exactly average if I did BK

inner shoal Dec 13, 2025, 8:38 PM

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for Dr. Romulus's Nightmare Key (Tail Cave) i need Teddy (who is apparently just called Tool Shop Owner's Son lol, that took me a bit to figure out)
and i believe Greenwood Guardian is what lets me get from world 2 to world 3

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time to play some Hollow Knight

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yesssss someone sent me dashmaster

inner shoal Dec 13, 2025, 9:11 PM

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that seems like a good chunk of HK

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several goodies for Flitter ^_^

midnight depot Dec 14, 2025, 10:04 AM

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Hi

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Crystal Project

midnight depot Dec 14, 2025, 11:14 AM

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FlitterFF5 sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to octy_jigsaw (Shoudu Province Chest - Across the reservoir)x6

FlitterFF5 sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Shoudu Province Chest - Cross the balance beam east of Fields save point)x5
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Cell Key to EmeCP (Shoudu Province Chest - 5 Sky Arena Wins room 2)
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Progressive Luxury Pass to EmeCP (Spawning Meadows Chest - On path to Delende)
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Jojo Sewers Pass to EmeCP (The Pale Grotto Chest - South of temple)
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Clamshell to EmeCP (The Pale Grotto Region Completion)
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Small Key to EmeCP (Underpass Chest - Lovely bounce tree W of The Undercity)

FlitterFF5 sent Gathering_Swarm to DragonsHK (The Pale Grotto Crystal - Fencer)

FlitterFF5 sent HM01 Cut to LlisandurPKMN2 (Shoudu Province NPC - 6 Sky Arena Wins Prize)
FlitterFF5 sent Bicycle to LlisandurPKMN2 (Tall, Tall Heights NPC - Gold by the breakable ice wall)
FlitterFF5 sent Darkness Crystal to LlisandurFF4 (The Undercity Crystal - Assassin)

FlitterFF5 sent Relic (Mountain Set) to Ixhat (Shoudu Province NPC - Gold near sky fishing)
FlitterFF5 sent Relic (Shortcake) to Ixhat (Poko Poko Desert Chest - Stormy first floor of ruins)

FlitterFF5 sent Face Key to La DxRomulus (The Undercity NPC - Gold hiding from the bats under the awning)

modern ivy Dec 14, 2025, 6:17 PM

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that's a lot of items!

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crystal project was bountiful

tender pelican Dec 14, 2025, 6:37 PM

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Huh, darkness crystal was not where I thought I was going next.

modern ivy Dec 14, 2025, 10:38 PM

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midnight depot Dec 14, 2025, 10:38 PM

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Oh thanks I definitely needed that

modern ivy Dec 14, 2025, 10:40 PM

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nice

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midnight depot Dec 14, 2025, 10:43 PM

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I think I have the keys too

modern ivy Dec 14, 2025, 10:45 PM

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inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 3:15 AM

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midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 5:06 PM

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Hi

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Let's play a short hike

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Thanks for gold feathers, seashells, camping permit

midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 5:49 PM

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FlitterASH sent Boy Guarding Hideout to DragonSoulBlazer (Return Camping Permit)
FlitterASH sent Brown Stone to DragonSoulBlazer (Old Building West Chest)```

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Let's play a little Tunic next

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Oh I have both orb and prayer

midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 6:57 PM

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Flitter Tunic sent Tool Shop Owner's Son to DragonSoulBlazer (Quarry - [Central] Obscured Below Entry Walkway)

inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 6:59 PM

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you found teddy! 🎉

midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 7:01 PM

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And more!


Flitter Tunic sent King's_Brand to DragonsHK (Ruined Atoll - [North] Guarded By Bird)
Flitter Tunic sent Simple_Key to DragonsHK (Ruined Atoll - [Southwest] Obscured Behind Fuse)
Flitter Tunic sent Lisa to DragonSoulBlazer (Ruined Atoll - [Northeast] Key Pickup)
Flitter Tunic sent Greenwood's Guardian to DragonSoulBlazer (Ruined Atoll - [Southeast] Chest Near Fuse)

Flitter Tunic sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Ruined Atoll - [Northeast] Chest On Brick Walkway)
Flitter Tunic sent Item - Sara Sara Bazaar Pass to EmeCP (Ruined Atoll - [Northeast] Chest Beneath Brick Walkway)
Flitter Tunic sent Item - The Pale Grotto Pass to EmeCP (Maze Cave - Maze Room Chest)

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Most importantly, I found my other Clamshell

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Flitter Tunic sent Item - Clamshell to FlitterFF5 (Ruined Atoll - [North] From Lower Overworld Entrance)

inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 7:02 PM

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midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 7:05 PM

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FlitterFF5 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

proven holly Dec 15, 2025, 7:06 PM

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damn that was fast

midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 7:07 PM

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I expected it might be fast since I only needed two mcguffins

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I will keep playing for now

inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 7:14 PM

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congrats!

midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 7:14 PM

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FlitterFF5 sent Metro Ticket - Pink to Ixhat (Jidamba Tangle Chest - Underground sneaky passage by NE cave exit)

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FlitterFF5 sent Item - Neptune Stone to EmeCP (Jidamba Tangle Chest - Island in the river through the foliage)
FlitterFF5 sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Jidamba Tangle Chest - Tucked against western side of Eaclaneya)```

inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 7:32 PM

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rats, i infected my own Crossroads lmao

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fresh hill Dec 15, 2025, 7:36 PM

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someday the dreamers will be made progression & trap /s

cold valve Dec 15, 2025, 7:40 PM

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At this point i think i am largely blocked on flippers, but i might be short on some keys here or there

midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 7:44 PM

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There's a hollow knight mod that adds a charm you can equip to temporarily uninfect crossroads

cold valve Dec 15, 2025, 7:45 PM

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What does uninfection of crossroads accomplish? Were there checks that become inaccessible upon infection?

proven holly Dec 15, 2025, 7:47 PM

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no, it's just annoying / significantly more dangerous

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the enemies get a lot stronger and certain looping pathways are blocked, so you have to go the long way

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~~personally I actually have the debug mod to flip it off if it hits too early~~

inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 7:49 PM

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i've had the crossroads get infected before i leave the tutorial area

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in a sync, not an async

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like 5 seconds into me playing the game and it's infected XD

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a couple types of the stronger enemies are real annoying, like the giant flies that chase you and don't get knocked back very far if you smack them, or the flies that fly around and drop molten rain from off the screen

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and a couple of the paths that get blocked feel so rude

modern ivy Dec 15, 2025, 7:55 PM

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everyone else enjoyed listening to you suffer if that makes you feel any better about it

inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 7:55 PM

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starlightsmugcat

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it's true, they did

midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 7:57 PM

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inner shoal a couple types of the stronger enemies are real annoying, like the giant flies t...

The giant flies are what I look forward to because they're easy to fight and drop lots of money

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If you practice it, you can also fight them as you move

inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 7:58 PM

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they are pretty good for money, it's true

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usually i end up trapping them on the other side of a platform where i can smack them

midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 7:58 PM

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That works

inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 7:59 PM

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hitting them while i run away has worked, but is less reliable, because i mess up lmao

proven holly Dec 15, 2025, 8:03 PM

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most important hk item get octy_jigsaw sent World_Sense to DragonsHK (Merge 231 times) /s

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octy_jigsaw sent GS Ball to LlisandurPKMN2 (Merge 249 times)

modern ivy Dec 15, 2025, 10:15 PM

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whoa last time i did cry pro i had a salmon violin and that's it

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now i have cello and owl drum and quintar flute

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i can no longer be stopped

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~~unless i have to climb a 3 tall jump~~

inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 10:16 PM

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midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 10:17 PM

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modern ivy ~~unless i have to climb a 3 tall jump~~

You gotta learn the owl high jump

modern ivy Dec 15, 2025, 10:18 PM

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out of logic gonna get a whole lot bigger if i start doing that one haha

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midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 10:21 PM

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Pretty sure that is zero checks

modern ivy Dec 15, 2025, 10:24 PM

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lol look it says progression it wouldn't lie to you would it?

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midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 10:25 PM

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I wish Tunic item names would be more helpful

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Which key is it?

modern ivy Dec 15, 2025, 10:25 PM

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the key key

tender pelican Dec 15, 2025, 10:25 PM

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If I remember right, the one key that matters is named different. Otherwise it fits into any lock you put it into.

fresh hill Dec 15, 2025, 10:26 PM

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I believe that is correct

midnight depot Dec 15, 2025, 10:26 PM

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Oh stick is really good

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Now I can play Beachstickball

tender pelican Dec 15, 2025, 10:26 PM

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Or maybe two keys. I think there's only 4 locks in the game? Two with "key" and the other two each with "key to x".

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Been a bit.

fresh hill Dec 15, 2025, 10:27 PM

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specifically I believe there's an Old House Key, and then 2 "Key"s that can be used on either that one tiny interior hallway between two bits of overworld, or that one little ruined house on the east side of atoll

modern ivy Dec 15, 2025, 10:28 PM

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tender pelican Dec 15, 2025, 10:28 PM

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Nice. Now I just need the badges to use it.

modern ivy Dec 15, 2025, 10:30 PM

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ok good news

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this pass has checks

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also 2 elevator parts and a north lookout token for flitter

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this appears significant

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inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 10:51 PM

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modern ivy Dec 15, 2025, 10:53 PM

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it may only be useful but at least it whomps

inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 11:04 PM

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caught up in % complete in Soul Blazer woo

modern ivy Dec 15, 2025, 11:04 PM

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inner shoal Dec 15, 2025, 11:04 PM

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i'm glad i hinted for Greenwood Guardian and that Flitter was able to pick it up for me

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if i reaaaally want i can go do some more checks in the mermaid zone but i'm technically supposed to get the Bubble Armor first

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otherwise it's a race against drowning, over and over again lmao

modern ivy Dec 16, 2025, 2:16 AM

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midnight depot Dec 16, 2025, 12:59 PM

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Hi

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Let's play video games

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https://i.imgur.com/ej57UJU.png

Imgur

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Talking to this guy while already riding a quintar means he doesn't give you the check

midnight depot Dec 16, 2025, 2:44 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/Wq9hph4.png

Imgur

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It's hard to warp here from the map because of all the checks

midnight depot Dec 16, 2025, 3:34 PM

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FlitterFF5 sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Overpass Chest - Lonely scrap among half-dead pines above Salmon Bay)x2
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Ancient Reservoir Pass to EmeCP (Salmon Bay NPC - Quintar splish splash Ancient Tablet A)
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Plug Lure to EmeCP (Jidamba Tangle NPC - Fly from Summoners weeping tree to hot tub Diamond)
FlitterFF5 sent Item - Fly Lure to EmeCP (Shoudu Province Chest - 10 Sky Arena Wins room 2)

FlitterFF5 sent Rooster to La DxRomulus (Jidamba Tangle NPC - Splash Mountain Gold (pool at NE end of canopy))
FlitterFF5 sent Nightmare Key (Key Cavern) to La DxRomulus (Delende Region Completion)

FlitterFF5 sent Monmo the Mole to DragonSoulBlazer (Jidamba Tangle Boss - Juses Summon)
FlitterFF5 sent Monomon to DragonsHK (Shoudu Province Boss - Tira Summon)
FlitterFF5 sent Mermaid Statue to Ghost Ship to DragonSoulBlazer (Castle Sequoia Boss - Akamanto)

FlitterFF5 sent Luca Key to LlisandurFF4 (Capital Sequoia Boss - Enami)
FlitterFF5 sent Super Rod to LlisandurPKMN2 (Tall, Tall Heights Boss - Pamoa Summon)
FlitterFF5 sent Fog Badge to LlisandurPKMN2 (Underpass Boss - Pah Summon)
FlitterFF5 sent Plain Badge to LlisandurPKMN2 (Beaurior Rock Chest - Caged in far corner of B4 big lava room with optional boss)
FlitterFF5 sent Package to LlisandurFF4 (Castle Sequoia Boss - Parasite X)```

inner shoal Dec 16, 2025, 6:23 PM

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midnight depot It's hard to warp here from the map because of all the checks

i think you can still warp to a homepoint even if it's buried under other icons but it does make it kind of a guessing game
and ofc you have to know it's there in the first place if you're using the map and not the locations list

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hmmm i wonder if we can steal ffxiv's idea and have a keybind to display the homepoints on top of the checks

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i mean we probably could, the question is how many keybinds are left on the world map and how hard is that to implement lol

inner shoal Dec 16, 2025, 6:24 PM

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midnight depot ```FlitterFF5 sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to octy_jigsaw (Overpass Chest - West of Valk...

oh sweet mermaid statue

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the mermaid statues unlock entire chunks of the underwater world (though as previously mentioned, you need Bubble Armor or the willingness to drown a lot haha)

proven holly Dec 17, 2025, 7:39 AM

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octy_jigsaw sent Item - Salmon Pass Pass to FlitterFF5 (Merge 283 times)

modern ivy Dec 18, 2025, 4:42 AM

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wow i went and beat the sky arena and there was nothing exciting at all!

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boooo

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dang well back to BK i guess

midnight depot Dec 18, 2025, 1:12 PM

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Hi

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Let's play Tunic

midnight depot Dec 18, 2025, 1:27 PM

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More fairies please:

[Hint]: Flitter Tunic's Fairy is at Geo_Rock-Lower_Kingdom's_Edge_1 in DragonsHK's World. (priority)
[Hint]: Flitter Tunic's Fairy is at Cave Eblana -- Pass to Bab-il (east half) -- north entrance, right top in LlisandurFF4's World. (priority)
[Hint]: Flitter Tunic's Fairy is at Abyss_Shriek in DragonsHK's World. (priority)```

midnight depot Dec 18, 2025, 1:44 PM

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Flitter Tunic sent Blue Stone to DragonSoulBlazer (Overworld - [Southeast] Chest Near Swamp)
Flitter Tunic sent Charm_Notch to DragonsHK (Swamp - [Entrance] North Small Island)
Flitter Tunic sent Soldier Guarding Left Tower to DragonSoulBlazer (Swamp - [South Graveyard] Guarded By Big Skeleton)
Flitter Tunic sent Light Arrow to DragonSoulBlazer (Swamp - [South Graveyard] Upper Walkway On Pedestal)
Flitter Tunic sent Ivy to South-East Grass Valley to DragonSoulBlazer (Swamp - [South Graveyard] Above Big Skeleton)
Flitter Tunic sent North-West Grandpa to DragonSoulBlazer (Swamp - [Upper Graveyard] Obscured Behind Hill)
Flitter Tunic sent Cyclone_Slash to DragonsHK (Swamp - [Outside Cathedral] Near Moonlight Bridge Door)

Flitter Tunic sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Swamp - [Upper Graveyard] Near Telescope)

Flitter Tunic sent Ribbon to La DxRomulus (Swamp - [Upper Graveyard] Near Shield Fleemers)

midnight depot Dec 18, 2025, 2:15 PM

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Flitter Tunic sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to octy_jigsaw (Library Hall - Holy Cross Chest)

Flitter Tunic sent Sprintmaster to DragonsHK (Library Lab - Page 1)

Flitter Tunic found their Green Questagon (Librarian - Hexagon Green)```

midnight depot Dec 18, 2025, 3:03 PM

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Flitter Tunic sent 3 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Frog's Domain - Near Vault)
Flitter Tunic sent Item - Black Squirrel to EmeCP (Frog's Domain - Magic Orb Pickup)

Flitter Tunic sent Simple_Key to DragonsHK (Frog's Domain - Side Room Secret Passage)
Flitter Tunic sent a mobile key to DragonSoulBlazer (Frog's Domain - Main Room Top Floor)
Flitter Tunic sent Ivy to Secret Tile to DragonSoulBlazer (Frog's Domain - Main Room Bottom Floor)

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[Hint]: Flitter Tunic's Fairy is at Pokedex - Dratini in LlisandurPKMN2's World at Whirl Islands (Old Rod), Forest Headbutt Trees (Rare). (priority)

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That's it for today

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Please find my fairies so I can get my heroes laurels

fresh hill Dec 18, 2025, 4:58 PM

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let's play AHiT

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looks like I have Dweller Mask now so that should unlock a lot

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oh and a painting unlock

fresh hill Dec 18, 2025, 5:24 PM

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Ixhat sent Fairy to Flitter Tunic (Subcon Forest - Swamp Tree A)

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Ixhat sent Item - Undersea Crab to FlitterFF5 (Subcon Forest - Burning Tree Climb)

midnight depot Dec 18, 2025, 5:31 PM

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Thank you

fresh hill Dec 18, 2025, 5:32 PM

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oh good, entering subcon well cleared the parade traps

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subcon forest "free" items done, gonna stop there and play other games for now

inner shoal Dec 18, 2025, 6:52 PM

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modern ivy Dec 18, 2025, 6:53 PM

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I hinted for Ibek because my hops they just aren't hoppy enough

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inner shoal Dec 18, 2025, 7:00 PM

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fairies get!

inner shoal Dec 18, 2025, 7:30 PM

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cold valve Dec 18, 2025, 7:38 PM

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Bomb is junk

inner shoal Dec 18, 2025, 7:52 PM

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rip

proven holly Dec 18, 2025, 8:22 PM

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octy_jigsaw sent Mineral Badge to LlisandurPKMN2 (Merge 313 times)

midnight depot Dec 22, 2025, 6:27 PM

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Hi

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Let's play a short hike!

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Thanks for a stick. I can do beachstickball

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king map, all the seashells, walkie talkie, golden feathers, shell necklace, sid island map

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No shovel to actually use the map

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