#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer
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Ah yes, the check where a goat catfishes a dude with a picture of princess peach
as you do
No bird key 
dr rOWmulus found their Supernova Trap (QM Ship Log: Quantum Shrine 3 - Entanglement Rule) are you fucking kidding me
dr rOWmulus sent World Key to FlitterAE (QM: Explore the Sixth Location)
dr rOWmulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.
the 2 checks i never get
oh i did get a bird key
it wasn't posted
La DxRomulus sent Item - Okimoto N.S. Pass to Flitter (Evil Eagle Heart Container (Eagle's Tower))
BK'd
only two items remain:
[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Pegasus Boots is at ED (Sanctum): Above East Rooftop in FlitterNS's World. (priority)
[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Nightmare Key (Angler's Tunnel) is at OW: Crusher Gauntlet in FlitterNS's World. (priority)
somebody just made a very funny post in the archipelago future-games section
gj buddy lol
Nice
Looks like I can finish ape escape now, thanks!
oh oops theres another item I havent hinted that I need
lets get on that
[Hint]: ArtiTTYD's Station Key 1 is at ED (Living Area): Dusk Guardian Recording Device in FlitterNS's World. (priority)
FlitterAE sent Unicorn to LlisandurFF6 (4-1 Crabby Beach Monkey 7 - Moko)
FlitterAE (Team #1) has completed their goal.
FlitterAE sent Roll Fragment to AF-Yacht (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 8 - Shaw)
FlitterAE sent Oath to Order to Dessy-MM (9-1 Monkey Madness Coin - Monkey Head)
FlitterAE sent Item - Skumparadise Pass to Flitter (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 19 - Wrench)```
Let's do Nine Sols
blergh
honestly getting fed up with WW already, i forgot how annoying the wind temple was
Is anything important there?
i forgot my settings but i think i need to do all temples to unlock the final area
Is there a way to check in-game?
Wait, it doesn't say that
Required Bosses Mode: No
Number of Required Bosses: 4
So if it was on it'd be four but it's off
oh
i find it hard to read these
tbh tho i really dont think im gonna have time to finish WW before this month is over
and im just not having fun
can you just !release it for me? im done i think
Fine, but please make sure to pick settings that you enjoy next time
its not that
its that my month has been super unexpectedly busy
i just havent had time, and when i have, ive just not wanted to play games i feel forced to play
Fair enough
WWeganought sent Small Key (Tail Cave) to Dessy-LADX (Wind Temple - Big Key Chest)
WWeganought sent Dog Food to Dessy-LADX (Windfall Island - Chu Jelly Juice Shop - Give 15 Green Chu Jelly)
WWeganought sent Small Key (Snowhead) to Dessy-MM (Earth Temple - Stalfos Miniboss Room)
WWeganought sent Item - Progressive Mount Instrument to Emerassi (Forbidden Woods - Climb to Top Using Boko Baba Bulbs)
WWeganought sent Item - Mercury Shrine Pass to Emerassi (Windfall Island - Mrs. Marie - Give 1 Joy Pendant)
WWeganought sent Seal of Goumang to FlitterNS (Windfall Island - Maggie's Father - Give 20 Skull Necklaces)
WWeganought sent Shine Sprite to ArtiSMS (Ganon's Tower - Maze Chest)```
thanks
I forgot how to get to the empyrean district
Without double jump you can get the chest on the ledge to the upper left by tricking the turret to the right of the screen into shooting the chest
Empyrean district bell puzzle solution 25412
Oh I somehow disconnected
you had requried boss mode off
so its not really like oot where you need to beat the dungeons
you need the triforce, fully upgraded master sword, and light arrow
and grapling and hookshot
basically all the items needed for the final dungeon
i thought that was the case
This game needs a trap where Yanlao snipes the shit out of you
all seals and the golden oak nut
I know what you mean, I've been in kinda the same boat
not that I don't enjoy the games when I do get to them, but between being early blocked for weeks and then also too sick to do anything for a week-ish, most of the times I'd usually make progress just weren't available
Oh, Abandoned mine
FlitterNS sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to La DxRomulus (ED (Living Area): Middle Elevator Chest Room)
FlitterNS sent Category Twos to AF-Yacht (ED (Living Area): Upper Right of Five Bells Room)
FlitterNS sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (ED (Living Area): Tianhuo Flower)
FlitterNS sent Station Key 1 to ArtiTTYD (ED (Living Area): Dusk Guardian Recording Device)
FlitterNS sent Pegasus Boots to La DxRomulus (ED (Sanctum): Above East Rooftop)
FlitterNS sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to Dessy-LADX (Nuwa's Tianhuo Flower)
FlitterNS sent Sword Upgrade to Ixfox (Sky Tower: Ropes Below Root Node)
FlitterNS sent Small Key (Spirit Temple) to Meganoot (OW: Retrieve Chip From Shanhai 9000)
FlitterNS sent Cathedral Elevator Fuse to Ixfox (IW: Shielded Walking Chest)
FlitterNS sent Nightmare Key (Angler's Tunnel) to La DxRomulus (OW: Crusher Gauntlet)
FlitterNS sent Item - Viridian Book to Flitter (BR: Gauntlet Part 2 Chest Past Beetle)
FlitterNS sent Gold Leaf to Dessy-LADX (IW: Nymph Puzzle Room)
FlitterNS sent Fairy to Ixfox (BR: Vault 2nd Chest)```
Did Wind Waker not have any shine sprites
Game's a lot easier to navigate when I have all movement abilities
think I had 82 before the release too
The last shine sprite you got was [2025-07-29 10:24:33,594]: (Team #1) WWeganought sent Shine Sprite to ArtiSMS (Ganon's Tower - Maze Chest)
The smooth scrolling in this scene really ruins the feel https://i.imgur.com/NhRJ3W7.png
I want jerky, awkward movement
lmao
Cutscene skipping the diagonal elevator broke https://i.imgur.com/YzJtCoO.png
Results in a softlock
Um, help https://i.imgur.com/8hteGxp.png
Oh, I can just warp past it
Okay, I need two more seals
[Hint]: FlitterNS's Seal of Fuxi is at Frog's Domain - Main Room Pot 1 in Ixfox's World. (priority)
[Hint]: FlitterNS's Seal of Jiequan is at X-Naut Fortress Crane Room: Coin 4 in ArtiTTYD's World. (priority)
These are the last items I need to beat the game
Well i mean my grandma is dying
So
I've just kinda been overwhelmed, dealing with family bullshit more than anything
Everyone demanding i do more than I'm able to
ok yeah nothing that severe on my end
She's not dead yet
But she's gone from months to live to maybe weeks
Things have just been escalating faster than expected, lots of work to do, trying to squeeze time in to see her
ok, nothing has come up today to give me an excuse not to make progress, so let's finally play Ixroid properly
Good luck!
Ixroid sent Grappling Hook to WWeganought (Sector 2 (TRO) -- Zazabi Speedway -- Lower Item)
I'm so bad at speed boost tricks
to be fair, this was out of logic even the last time I did play Ixroid; this is my first session with the speed booster
How do you feel about the game?
vroom vroom
as in, Fusion in general? or the quality of the rando?
not sure I can fairly judge either given how this month went
The former
oh Bottle is only useful in SMZ3
so this is tricky because Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission were basically my introduction to not just this series but the entire metroidvania genre; Fusion in particular I probably played dozens of times over as a teenager back when I carried my GBA everywhere with me, which has only ever happened with a single digit number of games in my life
it's tempting to try and judge it by the standards of later metroidvanias but, aside from the cold take that "yes of course Dread is slightly better in several ways", most of what comes to mind is all the stuff specific to Metroid that hardly any other metroidvanias do any more 
Ixroid sent Item - Dog Bone to Flitter (Sector 2 (TRO) -- Level 1 Security Room)
sector 2 fully cleared
I just realized I have every progression item except Varia Suit, which is in Ixfox blocked on a fuse I think
ok today it's in logic for Ixfox
feels weird setting a hint to priority just for myself, but since you can't filter found hints it's kinda important
so by Fusion logic, I should be able to full clear Sector 4, and almost Sectors 1 and 5, but the exceptions in 1 and 5 feel like places I can probably just tank the damage now that you've all found nearly every E tank
so I'll try to do at least that much, then see if I feel like Tunic
Ixroid sent Nightmare Key (Bottle Grotto) to Dessy-LADX (Sector 4 (AQA) -- Reservoir Vault -- Lower Item)
Ixroid sent Small Key (Stone Tower) to Dessy-MM (Sector 4 (AQA) -- Broken Bridge)
Sector 4 cleared
Ixroid sent Small Key (Snowhead) to Dessy-MM (Sector 5 (ARC) -- Flooded Airlock to Sector 4 (AQA))
theory confirmed, barely 
Ixroid sent SmMapWreckedShip to Dessy-SMZ3 (Sector 5 (ARC) -- Security Shaft East)
Ixroid sent DkMatter to LlisandurFF4 (Sector 5 (ARC) -- E-Tank Mimic Den)
strangely, the locations I can't tank my way into are in logic 
but that's all of Sector 5 I can figure out how to do
grats
what else would be my reward for diving into lava without the varia suit
That is literally the most important item in WW
Well, behind the sail and the wind waker itself, but you always start with those, kinda have to to actually play lol
yeah I'm thinking I'm done after Sector 1 is cleared
which means this loser is my last location
and we're done
71.43%
you know that last screenshot i think i've done that before in smash brothers
might just leave the slot there
you winning is a faithful reenactment imo
admittedly this is one of the weaker Ridley fights in the series; unlike most of Fusion's bosses it's kinda impossible to dodge him consistently so it quickly turns into a raw missile ammo + DPS check
i do like it better when it's feasible to dodge
also we were talking about super mario sunshine rando earlier and it looks like someone just made a rando for a romhack version of it today
that sounds wild and probably very hard lol
LADX complete and released
Dessy-LADX sent Item - Land's End Pass to Flitter (Nightmare Door Key (Key Cavern))
Dessy-LADX sent Item - Lost Penguin to Flitter (Manbo's Mambo (Tal Tal Heights))
a couple blue coins, a shine sprite, and a couple puzzle pieces too
And a skulltula
[Hint]: Dessy-MM's Elegy of Emptiness is at Spawning Meadows Shop - Nans Knick Knacks 2 in Flitter's World. (priority) This is the only check I need to beat MM
Dessy-SMZ3's Quake is at Okimoto N.S. Chest - On yashiki balcony in Flitter's World. (priority) This is the only check I need to beat SMZ3
let's finish ladx
La DxRomulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.
i think i'll sit august out, i'll be on vacation for some of it
Got it. Thanks for playing with me!
When i saw August coming up i was like shiiiiit I want to get the next Cry Pro version out before the next async
Just one more item before I can beat TTYD
Key card in Ixroids world
SMS has 86/90 shines
Hi. Let's play Crystal Project
Wow
Golden quintar, all penguins, all bones, all clamshells, hunter
I only need crabs and three licenses to get every remaining check
All right, back in BK mode
[Hint]: Flitter's Item - Progressive Luxury Pass is at Ikana Well Rightside Torch Chest in Dessy-MM's World. (priority)
Here's what I got, broken down by person and filtered to unfinished games only.```
Flitter sent Couple's Mask to AFalcon-MM (Skumparadise Region Completion)
Flitter sent Blue Coin to ArtiSMS (Greenshire Reprise Chest - Atop the waterfalls)
Flitter sent Shine Sprite to ArtiSMS (Okimoto N.S. Chest - East ground floor room)
Flitter sent Blue Coin to ArtiSMS (Overpass NPC - Swim up koi pond waterfall into cherry tree)
Flitter sent Station Key 2 to ArtiTTYD (Skumparadise Chest - Lava-loving shrooms)
Flitter sent Energy Tank to Ixroid (Greenshire Reprise NPC - The furthest southern edge Silver)
Flitter sent Red Questagon to Ixfox (The Sequoia NPC - Low-hanging Diamond fruit)
Flitter sent Artifact of Spirit to Dessy-MP (Greenshire Reprise NPC - Silver across 1st bridge hiding in a crack)
Flitter sent Circus Leader's Mask to Dessy-MM (Land's End Region Completion)
Flitter sent Quake to Dessy-SMZ3 (Okimoto N.S. Chest - On yashiki balcony)
Flitter sent Item - Ice Cell Key to Emerassi (The Sequoia Boss - Spirit Cage)```
that should be go mode for Ixfox
That should be my last artifact for Metroid Prime
so Cane of Byrna is "Avoid"; does that mean don't pick it up too early, or don't pick it up ever?
separately, Flitter needs Seal of Fuxi to finish 9S, which is in my Frog's Domain, which I can't get to without:
[Hint]: Ixfox's Ladders to Frog's Domain is at Corona Mountain - Front Right Lava Blue Coin in ArtiSMS's World. (priority)
everything else in Ixfox is in logic now
@modern ivy Ixfox sent Item - Seaside Cliffs Pass to Emerassi (Maze Cave - Maze Room Holy Cross)
overworld cleared
I believe my last important hint is Dessy's Varia (suit?) in Ziggurat, so I'll do that area... mostly, stopping before the Cane if I still haven't heard back on that 
Ixfox sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to Emerassi (Quarry - [Central] Below Entry Walkway)
oh hey there's more for you too
I think that just means it's not critical or helpful, so don't go out of your way, but it won't hurt to get it
AP's native hint priority categories are not as helpful as they could be
tbf, what wouldn't have this ambiguity?
Well, cheese tracker has better ones
(back when these were being designed in the AP dev channels, I'm pretty sure "avoid" was intended for items that did hurt to get, either in the usual sense of traps or even just progression that was so powerful you didn't want it early)
sent these
these things?
I like these better than the AP ones
I believe "No Priority" is the don't care option
I guess cheese is missing an Avoid, and splits Priority into 3 different levels?
AP needs an "unset" or "unknown" option as the default
actually AP has "Unspecified" as the default for auto-generated hints
Priority is the default for human-generated hints
Hm
^
my biggest problem with the hint priorities is that you have to set them on that page
that page with NO FILTERS
Yeah
its very annoying to use once you have more than like 5 hints in the rando
yeah, it's a big improvement over not having a hint tab at all, but it has always badly needed a way to filter out Found hints
absolutely
which everyone has been saying forever since long before even sorting was a thing
you might have it now i just finished
oh also the "In Logic" column can't do sorting because the interface between core and UT is not designed for that lol
i'm not clear what all items just came out but i checked the hinted stuff
Anyway i like "I'm waiting on this", "this is progress", "nice to have", "don't care" and/or "junk", and "don't get if you have a choice"
those are more immediately understandable to me
fwiw, if anyone wanted to contribute to core AP, hint filtering is probably one of the few features that someone could "just" show up and do if they really wanted to (hint priorities were like that)
This is purely for an async though, in a sync game ain't nobody got time fo dat
yeah, and the more statuses you add the more ambiguity problems arise
This seems pretty unambiguous to me
a big talking point when these were added was that many games deliberately choose not to auto-hint because the vanilla AP interfaces were so bad at handling lots of hints, and a manual distinction between which hints do and don't matter was considered the main solution to that
some of them do seem like they'd double up a little i guess
I think another factor is that the item being hinted already has fillter/useful/progression information, so a lot of those varying degrees of priority are already implied (imperfectly but still)
Yeah but ladx calls rupees progression
I do think there'd be significant value in an "I'm blocked" status, not just that I really want the thing but my slot is unplayable until I get this
Flitter
Flitter
I wonder if ladx will mark rupees deprioritized now that that's a flag 
Technically rupees are progression because you have to buy a couple things
i use critical for items im blocked on in cheese
But i just don't want people pinging me over 20 rupees
oh well, I'm always on the side of fewer, more objective categories when design issues like this show up
I agree that early on, "I'm waiting on this" and "this is progression" are largely the same, but later on they take on different usages
honestly cheese has so much going on I still haven't figured out how to make it useful for me; all the features I actually want seem to already be in the core tools and UT
I update it to show people that Im BKed as fkkk
I think a lot of it comes down to how a particular group uses them
I rarely am NOT BKd so i use it for items that will un-BK me usually
But my games are by nature usually pretty well spread out over the course of the playthrough
Usually
This month was weird
@dawn wigeon Ixfox sent Varia to Dessy-SMZ3 (Rooted Ziggurat Lower - Spider Ambush)
and that's Ziggurat done except for the "Avoid" boss
let's finish the slot now
grats!
as far as I know, the only important items left in my slots are FlitterNS's Seal of Fuxi and maybe AFalcon's Cane of Byrna
the latter I can get whenever if it's actually good while the former is waiting on ArtiSMS to find my ladders
oh FlitterNS is at 100% without goal, did that get !released?
So I did everything I would have needed Varia for already... but thanks!
Prime down, SMZ3 tonight
This requires [Hint]: Dessy-MM's Gibdo Mask is at Moon Goron Trial HP in Dessy-MM's World. (priority) which means I need Dessy-MM's Elegy of Emptiness is at Spawning Meadows Shop - Nans Knick Knacks 2 in Flitter's World. (priority) first
It also means I will just release it to you when I beat the game as by the time I get to the moon it will just be faster to win than to get that HP, go back to Ikana, and go through all the gibdos
Got it
SMZ3 done and released, 2 puzzle pieces + shine sprite + blue coin
grats!
MM just waiting on Flitter
Just noticed that game is goaled but not released...
Just went ahead and did !getitem to be able to complete
MM done and released
Dessy-MM sent Job - Wizard to Flitter (Stock Pot Inn Anju and Kafei)
Dessy-MM sent Item - Progressive Luxury Pass to Flitter (Ikana Well Rightside Torch Chest)
Dessy-MM sent Item - Undersea Crab to Flitter (Stone Tower Temple Armos Room Back Chest)
``` + Shine sprite + Blue coin
Not everyone releases as soon as they are goaled ๐
Flitter might have intended to play more, just keep in mind
That's true!
I meant to play until I get every relevant item
I did, however, permit everyone to do !getitem in case they think it's important and I'm not available at the time to fix things
Hi. Let's play Crystal Project
I have all crabs, ancient labyrinth, luxury shop 2, final depths boss
Flitter sent Item - Progressive Level to Emerassi (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Heavy Armor 3)
Flitter sent KeyTR to Dessy-SMZ3 (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Medium Armor 1)
Flitter found their Item - Tram Key (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Magic Weapons 3)
Flitter sent WT Big Key to WWeganought (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Exotic Weapons 1)
Flitter found their Job - Valkyrie (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Exotic Weapons 4)
Flitter sent Item - Quintar Sanctum Pass to Emerassi (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Martial Weapons 6)
Flitter sent Item - Capital Pipeline Pass to Emerassi (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Martial Weapons 3)
Flitter sent Item - Clamshell to Emerassi (The Deep Sea NPC - Crab people crab people)
The gall of this fucking game
Flitter found their Item - Spawning Meadows Pass (The Depths Region Completion)
My spawning meadows was locked behind the deepest endgame chain
Flitter sent Item - Salmon Bay Pass to Emerassi (Spawning Meadows Chest - Above waterfall)
Yeah, lots of Dessy's progression items were in Spawning Meadows, and they're now all irrelevant
Last thing to do is the labyrinth
There. 100% of checks
That was 21 hours 42 minutes
All I need now is Nine Sols
FlitterNS's Seal of Jiequan is at X-Naut Fortress Crane Room: Coin 4 in ArtiTTYD's World. ([u]priority[/u])
FlitterNS's Seal of Fuxi is at Frog's Domain - Main Room Pot 1 in Ixfox's World. ([u]priority[/u])
Save us, Artiks!
what about the ixroid key card
That's a different game
I'm not aware of any valuable items left in Ixroid
what does it need
its my last item for go mode
but i gotta go run now so ill finish up later this evening
...getting back to the main elevator hub took way longer than expected
Thank god for fast forward
oh it's not a cutscene thing, I ended last session in the most awkward corner of the map where one-way transitions force me to take a convoluted route back to the main area
I fast forward any slow gameplay, cutscenes or not
there wasn't really any fast-forwardable gameplay along the route either, most of that time was spent figuring out the route itself
(to be clear this is mostly a good thing)
ok now it all makes sense
this room is on the way to Artiks' card key
Varia Suit is the only item I'm missing, and after the logic issues I reported last session, I'm pretty sure Fusion's cold resistance is tied to Varia Suit
Huge axiom verge vibes
I should try fusion zero mission randos. And yeah, fusion ties cold resist to varia.
almost 
yeah I think I have to look this one up
huh, I could've sworn jumping ends the boost
Nah boosts are different in the GBA ones, it lets them make the shinespark puzzles especially annoying
@weary lagoon Ixroid sent Card Key 3 to ArtiTTYD (Sector 6 (NOC) -- Spaceboost Alley -- Lower Item)
granted I originally played these when online walkthroughs weren't pervasive yet so there was no good way to look up how any game's speed boost actually worked
I still haven't replayed Fusion since 2002
I liked Zero Mission a lot better. Fusion is a fine game, but it's a terrible Metroid game
I will play it again at some point, but it's a very linear experience, at least in vanilla.
Probably makes for a good randomizer
yeah
I've never cared that strongly about how linear a metroidvania is, as long as it doesn't mislead about that (e.g. some Castlevanias heavily imply they're more freeform then turn out to be painfully cryptically linear)
anyway made it to a save room so we're probably done with that slot for real this time
it never bothered me in Fusion since Fusion's quite upfront about what the goal is and never implies there are alternate routes to take
Nine Sols is another interesting example since it has linear parts, and basically tells you whether you're in a linear part or whether you actually have multiple objectives now
What?
you havent played this game....?
I have but what you said still makes no sense
its bowsers iconic line
the one time they were brave enough to voice act Bowser
ArtiSMS (Team #1) has completed their goal.
ArtiSMS sent Ladders to Frog's Domain to Ixfox (Corona Mountain - Front Right Lava Blue Coin)
that was the only relevant item left
looks like its just our two games left
Seems like TTYD by design just ends up in this end game slog where everyone else is done but I still have to play for 3 hours to finish
I still have to complete chapter six and seven because I just got their final items too
@fresh hill you have the item!
Power went out again
ok starting Tunic
I have a shield now
I remember none of the warps 
ok it's this one
LETS GOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@midnight depot Ixfox sent Seal of Fuxi to FlitterNS (Frog's Domain - Main Room Pot 1)
naturally the in-game messages put the filler item first
Thanks!
I have electricity and internet back so I'll finish up my game
r2modman sucks to use
I just want the game to start up. I don't want to start the mod launcher, start a profile, select between vanilla and modded, and only then start playing
yeah, coming from the OW mod manager, r2modman's UX is baffling; it could just not do a few things and be 10x better
Fuck I'm one short
ArtiTTYD found their Crystal Star (X-Naut Fortress Boss Room: Crystal Star)
starting final boss on exactly 1hour
my dmg is so good I almost killed her before she went immune lol
TIME!!!
1h 21 min
and released @midnight depot
that was fast
I was waiting at the final boss door
That's everyone! In the nick of time too
Well done
did you have enough upgrades to first-try ๐ฅ ?
fair
Thank you for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago game for July 2025. This month we've had 28 games, 41 spheres and 10113 locations. The players in the playthrough file, listed from last to first receiving an item, are @tender pelican, @modern ivy, @dawn wigeon, @finite monolith, @weary lagoon, @lament tusk, @midnight depot, @fresh hill, @cold valve, and @rare oxide at sphere 30. Included are the game log, spoiler log, YAML files and output file. The game link was: https://archipelago.gg/room/uZJjmfTyS3iGxWDMFi-wSg
28 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 65369
Hello, @here! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the **the end of August 2025 **. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run (or browse the archipelago discord server for unsupported games!), then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. Let's try to make sure that you like the game you picked and can complete it by the end of the month!
The game will start Monday, August 4th or whenever everyone interested is ready.
In order to join, I will need the YAML files for whatever games you want to play. Please make sure you only join with a manageable workload, and the ability to play at least a little every four or so days.
i woulda been free this month... unfortunatly runescape
For next game I intend to play Crystal Project, Ape Escape, and maybe Axiom Verge or nothing.
Play Runescape with us
There's an archipelago for f2p ironman chunk rando
Probably should exclude 43 prayer, Obor and Bryophyta if you do play, otherwise it'll be a forty hour grind
Thanks for hosting the async!
I had a lot of fun. Thanks for playing with me
Thanks for hosting!
Thanks again for organizing this
Next month I'll be gone for over a week right at the end of the month so it's probably not a good idea to not be able to play then. So unfortunately I'll sit August out
i'm gonna try super mario sunshine next go round but wowee this is a slow download
it's been going for over 5 hours already lol
Remember to make it smaller by converting it to RVZ. Dolphin can do that. It's lossless and reversible and doesn't impact performance
I will skip August as Im starting a new role at work and id also like to get back to Donkey Kong
good luck at the new role
Thanks for hosting!
All right, that's all three games installed. Let's configure them
For Ape Escape, the tokens feature was useless. I'm going to cut it out, and make each world key unlock a world instead of just a level. Additionally, I'm going to start with the radar instead of hinting it, since I always got it too late for it to be convenient. For water net, I'm going to experiment with making it one item instead of two progressive items.
For Axiom Verge, it looks like there's a lot of tricks I don't know. I used to speedrun the vanilla randomizer, but I'm going to leave all the tricks off for now.
For Crystal Project, I'm going to start with one job instead of six. I'm going to REMOVE shopsanity because I want to be able to stock up on four copies of accessories or get more consumables. I'm going to make it so mounts are split into their own chains. I'm going to keep the level caps for now because it's a good way to discourage me from grinding too early. I'm going to make sure there aren't too many cap increases by setting it to 10 levels each. For keys I'm experimenting with just having skeleton key and no other keys ever. I'm going to disable progressive equipment because I believe there's no such thing and even early game equipment has late game utility. I'm turning off summon shuffle because I don't want duplicates.
That's all for config. Let's test
Emerassi is playing Jigsaw and Super Mario Sunshine, so I'll use this apworld https://github.com/spineraks-org/ArchipelagoJigsaw/releases/tag/v0.8.0 and this apworld https://github.com/Joshark/archipelago-sms/releases/tag/0.4.3-alpha
Finally, I'm going to update archipelago itself to 0.6.2
Let's generate and see if it works
I'm going to see if I can get Dark Souls 1 to work. Otherwise I'll be doing at least FF1, FF4, and FF6.
Should I switch to Archipelago 0.6.2?
Yes? I'm not sure if you absolutely have to but you should
Axiom Verge updated the very next day
how much it matters will always depend on the game
in this case it comes with an new UI that's probably worth getting used to before something forces the issue
Welp, DS1 doesn't work in linux. the game does, but the UI of the AP executable for it doesn't.
Gotta wait I guess.
huh, I've always been told the core AP tools work fine on Linux and it's the game clients that would have issues
Yeah, they do. It's just the secondary executable that injects into DS1 that doesn't work.
...oh, yeah, that makes sense
Thank you!
Hi.
We start tomorrow, so make sure you give me your YAMLs and apworlds if you want to join the August game.
FF1, FF4, FF6, and Metroid Fusion since I couldn't get DS1 to work. I included the Metroid apworld just in case, but I think it's the same as Ixrec used last month.
Okay, so I accidentally unplugged my computer
All right. Game is up. Let's make sure I didn't forget anything
Looks like everything is in order. https://archipelago.gg/room/1rBi5lNKTFKlbpHPGMSSbg
13 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 64416
Now who needs a patch?
FF1,
No
Nobody needs a patch
FF4 patch is downloadable from the game now. Same for FF6
damn that is a tiny game compared to our last few
I feel better that it's not just me who isn't up for august
Thirteen games is still no slouch
Archipelago needs a core feature that easily tells Axiom verge there's no other axiom verge in this room so I don't have to type "FlitterAV"
All 1 accessible locations have been checked! Congrats!
Crystal Project next
My starting job for Crystal Project is Valkyrie
Not bad
My starting region is soiled den
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Progressive Mount Instrument to EmerassiCP (Soiled Den Chest - Riverside)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Gaea Stone to EmerassiCP (Soiled Den NPC - Dog Bone among the bones and flowers)
Let's wrap today up with Ape Escape
Ape Escape is so nice compared to Ocarina of Time
No patching or anything
Just update the apworld and connect through the generic bizhawk connector
All the changes are done by memory editing
ooo starting with quintar pass haha
That's all three games in BK mode
Canoe's big
i'm not technically bk on sunshine but i also have no idea where to find more coins in delfino plaza, i only made it to 89
other than that i think i'm all finished up my sphere 1
LlisandurFF4 sent Reverse Slicer to FlitterAV (Baron Castle -- 1F -- Starting item)
LlisandurFF4 sent Ion Beam to FlitterAV (Damcyan -- Treasury entrance -- middle cell, right)
LlisandurFF4 sent Magic Punch to FlitterAE (Watery Pass -- Exit ("North") -- bottom right)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Progressive Level to Flitter CryPro (Watery Pass -- Exit ("North") -- bridge chest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Progressive Quintar Flute to Flitter CryPro (Damcyan -- 2F -- chest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Undersea Crab to Flitter CryPro (Agart -- Exterior -- grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - West Lookout Token to Flitter CryPro (Mt. Ordeals -- 3F ("7th Station") -- center)
LlisandurFF4 sent Job - Aegis to Flitter CryPro (Silvera -- Exterior -- east grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Ganymede Stone to Flitter CryPro (Island Chocobo Forest -- grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Triton Stone to EmerassiCP (Baron Town -- Exterior -- water, top)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Baron Chocobo Forest -- grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Progressive Luxury Pass to EmerassiCP (Mist Village -- Rydia's house -- tiara room)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Capital Jail Pass to EmerassiCP (Watery Pass -- Entrance ("South") -- center-right)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Cell Key to EmerassiCP (Mt. Ordeals -- 1F -- bottom)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Progressive Level to EmerassiCP (Mt. Ordeals Chocobo Forest -- grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Dione Stone to EmerassiCP (Silvera -- Exterior -- northeast grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Luxury Key to EmerassiCP (Fabul Chocobo Forest -- grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Capital Sequoia Pass to EmerassiCP (Black Chocobo Forest -- south grass)
Purble mega men
Also I have, like, seven hp lmao
ryanmmx sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Intro Stage - Defeated Bee Blader #1)
ryanmmx sent Item - Viridian Book to EmerassiCP (Intro Stage - Defeated Bee Blader #2)
Huh. Cecil/Kain start. Classic.
I got Edward/Rydia. XD
lol
I also have at 2 Yangs and one more in an after-boss slot.
Cool, Baron sells apples
Ye
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Baron Castle -- 1F -- Starting item)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Black Squirrel to Flitter CryPro (Baron Town -- Exterior -- pot outside inn)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmerassiCP (Baron Town -- Exterior -- water, top)
ryanffffffff sent Infant Metroid to LlisandurM4 (Baron Chocobo Forest -- grass)
ryanffffffff sent Monkey Madness Monkey Lamp to FlitterAE (Mist Cave -- top left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Progressive Level to EmerassiCP (Mist Cave -- top right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Cell Key to EmerassiCP (Mist Cave -- center)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Sequoia Athenaeum Pass to EmerassiCP (Mist Cave -- bottom right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (Mist Village -- Rydia's house -- crawlspace, bottom right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Mist Village -- Rydia's house -- crawlspace, top left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Red Door Key to EmerassiCP (Mist Village -- Exterior -- north grass)
ryanffffffff sent R.C. Car to FlitterAE (Damcyan -- 2F -- chest)
ryanffffffff sent Speed Booster to LlisandurM4 (Antlion Cave -- B1F -- bottom left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (Antlion Cave -- B2F -- bottom right)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Antlion Cave -- B2F -- top left)
ryanffffffff sent Diffusion Missile to LlisandurM4 (Antlion Cave -- B2F -- top right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Black Squirrel to Flitter CryPro (Antlion Cave -- Save room -- right)
Thanks
Hi. Let's play axiom verge
Thanks for laser drill, flamethrower, reverse slicer, ion beam
This game is way harder when I'm trying to also slay bloodvelds in Runescape without spending a fortune on prayer potions
FlitterAV sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Absu - Entrance Shaft)
FlitterAV sent Bomb Data to LlisandurM4 (Absu - Switch Cage)
FlitterAV sent Ribbon to LlisandurFF4 (Absu - Elsenova)
Ape Escape is next
FlitterAE sent Item - Progressive Level to EmerassiCP (5-1 Snowy Mammoth Mailbox - Severely Cold Sea (Main))
FlitterAE sent Item - Small Key to EmerassiCP (7-1 Sushi Temple Coin - Outside)
FlitterAE sent Orbital Discharge to FlitterAV (2-2 Dark Ruins Coin - Water Basement)
FlitterAE sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (8-2 Specters Factory Coin - RC Car Room)
Crystal Project is next. I have one check there
He died at level 5 with base equipment and no skills
Thanks to Valkyries simply being able to revive once when they die
Flitter CryPro sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Soiled Den Boss - Bone Thief)
That's all three games in BK mode
re-raise ftw lol
I sent a bunch of stuff. Check your logs. XD
had gaea stone and triton stone and the tall tall and cap seq passes
so i got to walk around in tall tall with no mounts at all for a bit!
not blocked but done enough for now
Holy shit I can finally train on something other than the single bat spawns
The address disruptor unlocks a new check finding mechanism. Each enemy I disrupt is a check sent.
FlitterAV sent Item - Jidamba Eaclaneya Pass to EmerassiCP (Glitch a Swarmily (Parent))
Hey you can't just send me a labcoat
Now I have to check every wall to see if I can cross it
FlitterAV sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (Eribu - Outside Lower Passcode Room)
I'm going to keep the axiom verge map here because the location names suck and make no sense https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1032831597583536208/1376616850728943767/image.png?ex=68939459&is=689242d9&hm=ea3d815e8224eb7f213092625c9a5f34d27f14627bbe591de26b6ee5d88811c9&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1590&height=874
I'm going to stop here
[Hint]: FlitterAV's Data Bomb is at Spawning Meadows Shop - Nans Knick Knacks 3 in EmerassiCP's World. (priority)
[Hint]: FlitterAV's Progressive Drone is at Delende Shop - Fish Hatchery Armor Merchant 3 in EmerassiCP's World. (priority)
Now I know why there's an option to start at the elevator hub in Metroid Fusion. Because if you start at the ship you get 2 checks then you wait forever for someone to find the morph ball.
...I don't remember that option
hahahaha
Thanks. A mercury stone doesn't unlock any new checks but is pretty convenient for grinding on super low level enemies
looks like cry pro is opened up a bit, buying more cap sequoia stuff in shops and visiting delende now
managed to do some out of logic quintar nest out of logic
i have no mounts still but i have gaea stone, triton stone, and dione stone
it's been interesting having to do some of this without them!
I have bombs and power bombs, but I have no morph ball so I can't use them.
hey just found a hover nozzle
my horrible failure at SMS platforming has been somewhat rectified!
The unbreakable barriers and the breakable barriers have the same height https://i.imgur.com/PMiONND.png even though the unbreakable barriers are visually shorter
[Hint]: FlitterAE's Time Net is at Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 1 in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
FlitterAE sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (1-2 Primordial Ooze Mailbox - Camera Tutorial (Main))
FlitterAE sent Item - Draft Shaft Conduit Pass to Flitter CryPro (2-3 Cryptic Relics Mailbox - Back Camera Tutorial (Main Ruins))
FlitterAE sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (5-3 Hot Springs Mailbox - Ice Bridge Ahead (Outside))
FlitterAE sent Floater to LlisandurFF1 (5-3 Hot Springs Coin - Hot Spring)
FlitterAE sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (8-1 City Park Coin - Outside)
@midnight depot Can you hint morph ball for LlisandurM4, so I at least know who to poke so I can play the game? The normal start is a bit ridiculous. Needs better item placement logic. Next time I'll tell it to start me in the hub area.
Sure
I can't even hint it myself because I've only been able to do 2 checks.
[2025-08-07 15:18:48,774]: Notice (Team #1): [Hint]: LlisandurM4's Morph Ball is at Fabul Chocobo Forest -- grass in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
@rare oxide Go get that please. It's an open check from the start.
looks like i capital jail is out of logic, but that can't stop me because i can't read
WHALE
i dunno if that's actually a whale but it is in ffxiv
jail whale
Thanks
ok that's all the cry pro i can do for now
It is whale esper.
ryanffffffff sent Morph Ball to LlisandurM4 (Fabul Chocobo Forest -- grass)
ryanffffffff sent Job - Weaver to EmerassiCP (Mt. Hobs -- Save area -- rightmost)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Mt. Hobs -- Save area -- center-right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Soiled Den Pass to EmerassiCP (Mt. Hobs -- Save area -- center-left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to EmerassiCP (Fabul -- Throne room -- west pot)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Fabul -- Throne room -- bottom chest)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Quintar Sanctum Pass to Flitter CryPro (Fabul -- Throne room -- middle chest)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Small Key to EmerassiCP (Fabul -- Throne room -- top chest)
ryanffffffff sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (Fabul -- West tower 1F -- bottom chest)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Elevator Part to Flitter CryPro (Fabul -- West tower 1F -- top chest)
ryanffffffff sent City Park Monkey Lamp to FlitterAE (Fabul -- East tower 3F (king's bedroom) -- chest)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Fabul -- East tower 3F (king's bedroom) -- Defend Fabul reward item)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Baron Town -- Inn -- treasury, left)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Baron Town -- Inn -- treasury, right)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Mt. Ordeals Chocobo Forest -- grass)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Deity Eye to Flitter CryPro (Mt. Ordeals -- 3F ("7th Station") -- center)
LlisandurM4 sent Item - Special Shoudu Stew to Flitter CryPro (Main Deck -- Operations Ventilation)
LlisandurM4 sent Item - Ancient Reservoir Pass to EmerassiCP (Sector 1 (SRX) -- Lava Lake -- Upper Left Item)
LlisandurM4 sent Spray Nozzle to EmerassiSMS (Sector 1 (SRX) -- Stabilizer Storage)
ryanmmx2 sent Item - Europa Stone to Flitter CryPro (Defeated Gigantic Mechaniloid CF-0)
ryanmmx2 sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Defeated Pararoid S-38 #1)
ryanmmx2 sent Item - The Deep Sea Pass to Flitter CryPro (Defeated Pararoid S-38 #2)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Cobblestone Crag Pass to Flitter CryPro (Ancient Cave North Cavern Right)
LlisandurFF6 sent Yoshi to EmerassiSMS (Imperial Camp Central Tent Left)
LlisandurFF6 sent Field Disruptor to FlitterAV (Doma Castle Lower Hall Pot)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - The Chalice of Tar Pass to EmerassiCP (Phantom Train Third Car Left Chest)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Northern Stretch Pass to EmerassiCP (Baren Falls)
Thanks
Hi. Let's play Crystal Project
My cleric was inside a chest
that was very cruel of someone to lock them in there
That's enough for now
I got a lot of progression checks which I did not keep track of!
Thanks, I do really need both!
I had the license already so this should give me gold quintar
so early!
Hi. Let's play Crystal Project
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Capital Sequoia NPC - Courtyard Chloe)
Why are some of the checks here Ibek-only?
You can just fly here from Yamagawa Summit with owl or quintar
Isn't spawning meadows the starting region?
That's enough for today
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Quintar Sanctum NPC - Silver beneath the shroom)
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Quintar Sanctum NPC - Mushroom bounce Silver)
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Quintar Sanctum Chest - West wall big bounce)
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Quintar Sanctum Chest - West at ground level)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Lost Penguin to EmerassiCP (Ibek Cave Boss - Possessor)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Shoudu Waterfront Pass to EmerassiCP (Cobblestone Crag Chest - Long jump)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmerassiCP (Quintar Sanctum Chest - In front of the shrine)
Flitter CryPro sent Job - Aegis to EmerassiCP (Quintar Sanctum NPC - Two Toads bestow Princess Toadstool)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Ibek Cave NPC - Goat victory Ibek Bell)
Flitter CryPro sent Job - Samurai to EmerassiCP (Ibek Cave NPC - Silver in the goat digs)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Jojo Sewers Pass to EmerassiCP (Sara Sara Beach East NPC - Silver beheld by Dr Cool Aids)
Flitter CryPro sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Cobblestone Crag Chest - I totally meant to miss that jump)
Flitter CryPro sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Overpass Chest - West of Valkyrie Watchtower)
Flitter CryPro sent Carbunkl to LlisandurFF6 (Sara Sara Beach East NPC - Silver glittering in the sun at Ibek Cave exit 1)
Flitter CryPro sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (The Undercity Chest - South of the Undercity Inn)```
i'm not sure what region was your starting region in this seed, but we treat the one you got your first region pass for as the starting region
and thanks for the passes, gonna take a look see through my Crystal Project
for the sara sara beach east stuff, if you can reach it using owl from nearby it should probably be in logic, that sounds like something we should do another pass on, if it required a fly all the way from yamagawa i'd probably leave it out of logic just to prevent an inexperience player from having to guess that
i suspect it's the former in this case
I see
Should at least be in the obscure path setting
yeah probably
a few more Shards to FF1
oh boy i can reach shoudu now
but we're saving that little treat for later
since it's not little at all
Thanks. Axiom Verge is getting a lot of weapons but not many movement abilities just yet
Fat beam is a secret really effective weapon. There's four of those and you get one at random per run
getting only one super good weapon per run is a fun concept
gonna give shoudu a shot
sky arena down, time for christmas
since we're on v0.8.0 this check is currently broken
it says it has progression, so could you release that one for me?
ok that's 100 checks or so, time for a break
You got it!
Thanks for Data Bomb. That one makes it so easy to glitch a lot of enemies
[2025-08-11 05:18:09,227]: (Team #1) EmerassiCP sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Shoudu Province NPC - Chloe and Talon sky fishing)
thanks
LlisandurFF4 sent Magma Key to ryanffffffff (Cave Eblan -- Monster in a Box)
LlisandurFF4 sent Darkness Crystal to ryanffffffff (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 4)
LlisandurFF4 sent Sting Chameleon Access Codes to ryanmmx (Tower of Bab-il (upper) -- 1F -- right)
LlisandurFF4 sent Arms Upgrade to ryanmmx (Dwarf Castle -- Throne Room -- Luca item)
LlisandurFF4 sent Wire Sponge Access Codes to ryanmmx2 (Upper Bab-il -- Monster in a Box)
LlisandurFF4 sent Speed Burner to ryanmmx2 (Tower of Bab-il (upper) -- B4F -- chest (U bridge))
LlisandurFF4 sent Quantum Variegator to FlitterAV (Dwarf Castle -- Inn -- pot)
LlisandurFF4 sent Grapple to FlitterAV (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 2)
LlisandurFF4 sent Multi-Disruptor to FlitterAV (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 3)
LlisandurFF4 sent Sky Flyer to FlitterAE (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 3)
LlisandurFF4 sent TV Tower Monkey Lamp (Tank Room) to FlitterAE (Fabul -- West tower 3F (Yang's room) -- Found Yang item)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Progressive Luxury Pass to Flitter CryPro (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 4F (through 3F southeast door) -- left)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Eastern Chasm Pass to Flitter CryPro (Sylvan Cave -- House -- bottom)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - The Chalice of Tar Pass to Flitter CryPro (Sylvan Cave -- B3F (northeast area) -- top left)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Salmon Bay Pass to Flitter CryPro (Fabul -- West tower 3F (Yang's room) -- Pan Trade item)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Northern Cave Pass to Flitter CryPro (Old Water-way -- B3F -- southwest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Dog Bone to Flitter CryPro (Old Water-way -- Save room -- hidden chest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Job - Warrior to Flitter CryPro (Baron Castle -- Throne Room -- item)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Cerulean Book to EmerassiCP (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 3F -- bottom)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Red Door Key to EmerassiCP (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 1)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Lake Delende Pass to EmerassiCP (Sylvan Cave -- B2F (east half) -- pit chamber, middle)
Thanks!
Hi, let's play Ape Escape
Still waiting on net, I think
FlitterAE sent Unicorn to LlisandurFF6 (8-1 City Park Coin - Barrel Room)
First progression item so far
[Hint]: FlitterAE's Water Net is at Lunar Subterrane -- B2 (route to altar) -- Altar 1 (Murasame slot) in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
Looks like both of my critical items are in Ryan's world
And Ape Escape is now in BK mode
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Dog Bone to Flitter CryPro (Auction House 20kGP)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Flyer's Crag Pass to Flitter CryPro (Magitek Factory South Bottom Left)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Lost Penguin to Flitter CryPro (Magitek Factory South Secret Room Right)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (Fanatics' Tower Seventh Floor)
It's up
Thanks for remote drone, weapon range, distortion field, projectile size, health, trenchcoat, power node, fat beam, data bomb, grapple
What the heck I have everything
Can I just finish the game?
Wait no
That's the wrong kind of bomb
I want the address bomb
I need the high jump, the drone launch, the red coat too
https://i.imgur.com/FJrw8Eb.png Fat beam destroys this boss
FlitterAV's Progressive Coat is at Lunar Subterrane -- B2 (route to altar) -- Altar 1 (Murasame slot) in LlisandurFF4's World. (priority)
This would make things so much easier, as well as unlock faster navigation, more areas, and is needed to finish the game. It's critical
FlitterAV's Drone Teleport is at Titan's Tunnel - Major in LlisandurFF1's World. (priority) This is also progression
I will stop here because everything is slow and confusing
I went ahead and set my cheese tracker hint priority
Ape Escape is in BK mode still
what a fun looking gun
It's great! Quite a shame it's a secret most players don't see
Hi. Crystal Project
That's enough for now
Flitter CryPro sent Progressive Address Disruptor to FlitterAV (The Deep Sea Chest - Crumbling shrine 2)
Flitter CryPro sent Level 4 Keycard to LlisandurM4 (The Deep Sea Chest - By The Depths chasm SE of Shoudu Province)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Salmon Bay Chest - Cliff diving)
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Poko Poko Desert NPC - Stormy Silver atop ruins)
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Poko Poko Desert Chest - Potion chest to fortify you for jumping puzzle from hell)
Glad I didn't do more Axiom Verge, the new address disruptor makes things easier
LlisandurFF1 sent Rolling Shield to ryanmmx (Earth Cave Vampire Floor (B3) - Incentive)
LlisandurFF1 sent Shotgun Ice to ryanmmx (Sea Shrine Sharknado Floor (B4) - Side Corner 1)
LlisandurFF4 sent Sonic Slicer to ryanmmx2 (Cave of Summons -- Monster in a Box)
LlisandurFF4 sent Silk Shot to ryanmmx2 (Town of Monsters -- Throne Room -- Levia item)
LlisandurFF1 sent Progressive Drone to FlitterAV (Sky Fortress Spider (2F) - Incentive)
LlisandurFF1 sent Tethered Charge to FlitterAV (Sky Fortress Provides (3F) - CC's Gambit 3)
LlisandurFF1 sent Item - Lost Penguin to EmerassiCP (Sky Fortress Provides (3F) - Greed 3)
Sweet, thanks!
I played a little cry pro and forgot to have a tracker open
i think i found your okimoto pass though
mostly puzzle pieces this time
Thank you
Hunter is essential for my lazy "auto-snipe everything and leave" strategy
lol i like it
Thanks. That's very handy
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to EmerassiCP (Tritoch)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Mercury Stone to EmerassiCP (Narshe West Mines Right WoR)
@rare oxide need these to progress:
[Hint]: LlisandurM4's Level 1 Keycard is at Cave Magnes -- B4F -- chest (left of crystal room entrance) in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Darkness Crystal is at Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 5 in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF6's Shadow is at Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 3 in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
and would really like
[Hint]: LlisandurFF1's Tail is at Lunar Subterrane -- B5 (through first interior passage south exit) -- chest in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
Llisandur has a hint in Delende. I need the Delende pass for that
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Room 1 Key to EmerassiCP (Quintar Nest Chest - Jumping puzzle above the donut)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Northern Cave Pass to EmerassiCP (Okimoto N.S. Region Completion)
Flitter CryPro sent Crown to LlisandurFF1 (Okimoto N.S. Crystal - Ninja)
Flitter CryPro sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (Jojo Sewers NPC - Who even wants Stone of Jordan these days?)
Flitter CryPro sent Helmet Upgrade to ryanmmx (Okimoto N.S. Chest - Just kinda in there, its not special)```
Plus puzzle pieces, shine sprites, crabs
i had been only reporting prog
but
this one seems relevant lol
cry pro paying out tonight!
Thank you for address disruptor 2, enhanced drone launch, health, damage, weapon size,
I keep finding out of logic stuff and missing the in logic stuff
FlitterAV sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Absu - Attic Right Shrine) my first progression
FlitterAV sent Odin to LlisandurFF6 (Kur - Cliffs Behind Gir-Tab Above Shrine)
[Hint]: FlitterAV's Progressive Coat is at Lunar Subterrane -- B2 (route to altar) -- Altar 1 (Murasame slot) in LlisandurFF4's World. (priority)
[Hint]: FlitterAV's Progressive Address Disruptor is at Tower of Zot -- Monster in a Box in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
That is enough for now
[Hint]: FlitterAV's Passcode Tool is at Imperial Base First Row Right in LlisandurFF6's World. (priority)
I have updated my cheese tracker hints
@rare oxide is it possible for you to get this? What do you need in order to reach it? FlitterAE's Time Net is at ryanffffffff's Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 1
Hi
I'm still waiting on Ryan to find my time net. Is everything all right?
You have not played for two weeks
We have ten days left in the month and we're still ~50% done
[2025-08-20 02:34:17,942]: (Team #1) Flitter CryPro sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (The Deep Sea Chest - Undersea valley S of Sara Sara Beach)
@rare oxide are you there? If you don't play your games soon I'm going to have to kick you out.
I keep poking him to play, but we both got sick this last week.
ooof i got sick af too, get well soon!
Trying. I did one day of work so far this week! XD
I see.
Hey everyone, Iโm really sorry about the lack of activity this month. I screwed up my settings for ff4 which kinda made the whole thing way harder, so I decided to set it aside for a while and let some items pile up to help a little. Then I got very involved with some projects and school, which pushed back my gaming somewhat. Then, right as I was about to pick things up again I got very sick which took me out for a week.
Again, Iโm really sorry about holding everything up. Iโll try to get this stuff bashed out as fast as I can. -_-
ryanffffffff sent Legend Sword to LlisandurFF4 (Dwarf Castle -- B1F (Fat Chocobo) -- top pot)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Cell Key to EmerassiCP (Dwarf Castle -- West tower 3F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Dwarf Castle -- East tower 3F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Progressive Level to EmerassiCP (Eblan Castle -- 2F -- east room, bottom-right)
ryanffffffff sent Specter's Factory Monkey Lamp to FlitterAE (Eblan Castle -- 2F -- east room, top)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Tall, Tall Heights Pass to Flitter CryPro (Eblan Castle -- 2F -- west room, top)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Eblan Castle -- East tower 2F -- left side, top chest)
ryanffffffff sent Crabby Beach Monkey Lamp to FlitterAE (Eblan Castle -- East tower 2F -- pot)
ryanffffffff sent Ice Beam to LlisandurM4 (Eblan Castle -- East tower 2F -- right side, bottom chest)
ryanffffffff sent Raiden to LlisandurFF6 (Eblan Castle -- Monster in a Box 3)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Eblan Castle -- Basement -- left)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Eblan Castle -- Basement -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Eblan Castle -- West tower 2F -- left chest)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Eblan Castle -- West tower 1F -- left)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Eblan Castle -- Monster in a Box 2)
ryanffffffff sent Shiva to LlisandurFF6 (Antlion Cave -- B3F -- Antlion Nest item)
ryanffffffff sent Job - Cleric to EmerassiCP (Watery Pass -- Passage to exit ("B2F") -- left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Shoudu Province Pass to Flitter CryPro (Watery Pass -- B3F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Watery Pass -- B3F -- left)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Watery Pass -- Camp level ("B2F") -- top left)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Watery Pass -- Entrance ("South") -- center)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Babel Quintar to Flitter CryPro (Watery Pass -- Behind waterfall -- left)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Watery Pass -- Entrance ("South") -- rightmost)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Progressive Level to Flitter CryPro (Waterfall -- Lake -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - STEM WARD to Flitter CryPro (Waterfall -- B2F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Waterfall -- B2F -- left)
you know it's a good sign when our mod bots are warning us about possible spam from #1119170161518334004
Lol.
ryanffffffff sent Phantom to LlisandurFF6 (Baron Town -- Inn -- item)
ryanffffffff sent Strike Chain to ryanmmx2 (Dwarf Castle -- Throne Room -- Luca item)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Dog Bone to EmerassiCP (Cave Magnes -- B1F -- top right)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Cave Magnes -- B2F -- chest)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Delende Pass to Flitter CryPro (Cave Magnes -- Pit room -- left)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Cave Magnes -- Torch room -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Level 1 Keycard to LlisandurM4 (Cave Magnes -- B4F -- chest (left of crystal room entrance))
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ryanffffffff sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Tower of Zot -- 2F -- chest)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Tower of Zot -- 5F (through 4F center-left door) -- top)
ryanffffffff sent Progressive Address Disruptor to FlitterAV (Tower of Zot -- Monster in a Box)
Alright, gonna get some supper, then I'll hit it up again. I'll take on tower of babil next, either get enough levels for float there or turn on random encounters and power level until I get float, then I can do sylph cave.
LlisandurM4 sent Item - Cobblestone Crag Pass to EmerassiCP (Sector 4 (AQA) -- Waterway)
LlisandurM4 sent Item - Gardeners Key to EmerassiCP (Sector 2 (TRO) -- Lobby Cache)
LlisandurFF6 sent Passcode Tool to FlitterAV (Imperial Base First Row Right)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Northern Stretch Pass to Flitter CryPro (Sealed Gate Entrance)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Digested Head to Flitter CryPro (Sealed Gate Basement 3 Hidden Passage)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Castle Ramparts Pass to Flitter CryPro (Zozo Cafe)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Pyramid Key to EmerassiCP (Sealed Gate Basement 3 Plaza)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Salmon Pass Pass to EmerassiCP (Mobliz House Barrel)
ryanffffffff sent Super Missile to LlisandurM4 (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 3)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 1F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Armored Armadillo Access Codes to ryanmmx (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 4)
ryanffffffff sent Item - The New World Pass to Flitter CryPro (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 1)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Quintar Mausoleum Pass to Flitter CryPro (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 2)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 8F -- item (Tower Key slot))
ryanffffffff sent Tnt to LlisandurFF1 (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 5F -- item (Super Cannon destruction))
ryanffffffff sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 4)
ryanffffffff sent Shadow to LlisandurFF6 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 3)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Black Squirrel to EmerassiCP (Sylvan Cave -- B3F (northeast area) -- bottom right)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Sylvan Cave -- B3F (northeast area) -- top right)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Sylvan Cave -- B2F (east half) -- square chamber, top right)
ryanffffffff sent Time Net to FlitterAE (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 1)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 6)
ryanffffffff sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 2)
ryanffffffff sent Magnet Mine to ryanmmx2 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 7)
ryanffffffff sent Darkness Crystal to LlisandurFF4 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 5)
Alright, getting pretty tired. Still don't have a lot of stamina. I'll finish getting ff4 caught up tomorrow, then start on the mega mans. Those shouldn't take very long.
Thank you for communicating. I think we have just enough time to finish before the end of the month!
Let's play Ape Escape
Thanks for finding me the net. The following checks are now accessible (left side of each level all need it) https://i.imgur.com/IpErxh3.png
FlitterAE sent Item - Lost Penguin to EmerassiCP (1-3 Molten Lava Monkey 1 - Scotty)
FlitterAE sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmerassiCP (2-2 Dark Ruins Monkey 11 - Kenny)
FlitterAE sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (2-3 Cryptic Relics Monkey 4 - Pally)
FlitterAE sent Rat Tail to ryanffffffff (2-2 Dark Ruins Monkey 4 - Nuzzy)```
FlitterAE sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to EmerassiCP (4-1 Crabby Beach Monkey 8 - Puka)
I will stop here
I have the following levels left https://i.imgur.com/SvKsFhQ.png
I need world keys and water net
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to EmerassiCP (Lunar Path -- northeast chamber, right)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Crag Demon Horn to EmerassiCP (Lunar Core -- Monster in a Box 3)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (Lunar Subterrane -- B5 (second interior passage) -- chest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (Lunar Subterrane -- Core B1 -- chest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Baron Key to ryanffffffff (Lunar Path -- Monster in a Box)
LlisandurFF4 sent Legend Sword to ryanffffffff (Lunar Core -- Monster in a Box 7)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Jade Cavern Pass to Flitter CryPro (Cave Bahamut -- B1F -- bottom left)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Proving Meadows Pass to Flitter CryPro (Lunar Core -- Monster in a Box 9)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Lost Penguin to Flitter CryPro (Lunar Subterrane -- B7 (middle room) -- Altar 3 (White Spear slot))
LlisandurFF4 sent Super Hoop to FlitterAE (Lunar Core -- Monster in a Box 8)
Need these to beat the game. Should be all that's left.
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Rat Tail is at Lunar Subterrane -- B7 (right room) -- Ribbon Left in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Tower Key is at Lunar Subterrane -- B7 (middle room) -- Altar 3 (White Spear slot) in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Adamant is at Fabul -- West tower 3F (Yang's room) -- Found Yang item in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
[Hint]: LlisandurM4's Level 3 Keycard is at Defeated Bubble Crab in ryanmmx2's World. (priority)
Nice
LlisandurFF1 sent World Key to FlitterAE (Smith)
LlisandurFF1 sent Earth Crystal to ryanffffffff (Astos)
LlisandurFF6 (Team #1) has completed their goal.
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Ganymede Stone to EmerassiCP (Phoenix Cave Lower Cavern Cool Lava)
LlisandurFF6 sent Shards to FlitterAV (Serpent Trench Second Branch)
I don't know what the hell shards are
Said progression item. I thought it was my FF1 collectible at first. XD
Oh it's a weapon
I finished the game like fifteen times but most of the weapons are bad so I never use them
Lol.
just RPG things
It's a metroid with very few RPG elements. It's just that there are too many weapons
It's a gun that shoots white shards
LlisandurFF1 sent Drone Teleport to FlitterAV (Titan's Tunnel - Major)
Ooh big
This allows me to get into the pyramid
and makes it very fast to travel in wide open rooms
I'm just waiting on the rod and a last few shards for FF1.
ryanffffffff sent Item - Okimoto N.S. Pass to EmerassiCP (Tower of Zot -- 6F -- item)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Old Water-way -- B1F -- left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Neptune Stone to Flitter CryPro (Old Water-way -- B2F -- chest)
ryanffffffff sent Infant Metroid to LlisandurM4 (Baron Castle -- East tower 1F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Spark Mandrill Access Codes to ryanmmx (Baron Castle -- Basement -- Odin item)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Progressive Mount Instrument to EmerassiCP (Baron Castle -- East tower 3F -- left chest)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Baron Castle -- Throne Room -- item)
ryanffffffff sent Item - North Lookout Token to Flitter CryPro (Land of Monsters -- B1F -- top left, through secret path)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Cave of Summons -- Monster in a Box)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Quintar Reserve Pass to Flitter CryPro (Town of Monsters -- B4F (first area) -- middle left)
ryanffffffff sent Job - Valkyrie to EmerassiCP (Town of Monsters -- B4F (first area) -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Homing Torpedo to ryanmmx (Town of Monsters -- B4F (first area) -- Rat Tail)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Town of Monsters -- Throne Room -- Asura item)
ryanffffffff sent Crystal Snail Access Codes to ryanmmx2 (Town of Monsters -- Throne Room -- Levia item)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmerassiCP (Dwarf Castle -- B2F (tunnel) -- middle chest)
Hi
DnD in 90 mins. Let's play a bit more Ape Escape
Wait, I have Monkey Madness? I thought it had to be the last level
FlitterAE sent Canal to LlisandurFF1 (9-1 Monkey Madness Mailbox - The Terror Coaster (Coaster Entry))
FlitterAE sent Item - Skumparadise Pass to Flitter CryPro (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 15 - Raeski)
FlitterAE found their Victory (9-1 Monkey Madness - Specter)
FlitterAE (Team #1) has released all remaining items from their world.
FlitterAE sent Item - Mars Stone to EmerassiCP (7-1 Sushi Temple Monkey 2 - Rocka)
FlitterAE sent Item - Neptune Stone to EmerassiCP (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Mailbox - Guided Pellet Tutorial (Middle Room))
FlitterAE sent Item - Seaside Cliffs Pass to EmerassiCP (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Monkey 10 - Phool)
FlitterAE sent Equipment - Ribbon to EmerassiCP (7-3 Crumbling Castle - Boss)
FlitterAE sent Equipment - Undead Ring to EmerassiCP (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Mailbox - Big Cogwheel (Middle Room))
+clamshells, digested head, jigsaw pieces, shine sprites
FlitterAE sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (7-1 Sushi Temple Monkey 8 - Quel Tin)
FlitterAE sent Starlet to LlisandurFF6 (1-1 Fossil Field Monkey 4 - Tray C)
FlitterAE sent Ice Missile to LlisandurM4 (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 19 - Wrench)```
seaside cliffs should let me get alot
i died so many times in corona mountain wow i really did not like that level!
sent a few passes and also a screw attack
Nice
ryanmmx sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Chill Penguin - Heart Tank)
ryanmmx sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmerassiCP (Armored Armadillo - Heart Tank)
LlisandurM4 sent Job - Wizard to Flitter CryPro (Sector 5 (ARC) -- Ruined Break Room)
Nice, thanks
Flitter CryPro sent Job - Shaman to EmerassiCP (Salmon River NPC - Salmon Race 2nd place price)
Hmmmmmm
With what you've given me I have the chance to do something very silly
Flitter CryPro (Team #1) has completed their goal.
Now I'm at 375/949, or 39.52%, but since we're so near the end of the month, I will just release my remaining checks
I'm not going to list items I know exist many copies of, like cell keys, jigsaw pieces, but there's probably a few. I also won't list items for finished games:
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Central Lookout Token to EmerassiCP (Shoudu Province Chest - Under the dry kid pit)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Foliage Key to EmerassiCP (Jidamba Tangle Chest - NW foliage)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Callisto Stone to EmerassiCP (Capital Jail NPC - Silver locked in overgrown West Wing hallway)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Babel Quintar to EmerassiCP (Yamagawa M.A. Boss - Sepulchra)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Capital Pipeline Pass to EmerassiCP (The Sequoia Boss - Spirit Cage)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Ibek Cave Pass to EmerassiCP (Beaurior Rock Chest - B3 balcony above the lava)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Quintar Mausoleum Pass to EmerassiCP (Salmon River Region Completion)
Flitter CryPro sent Missile Data to LlisandurM4 (Capital Sequoia NPC - Plunder the Luxury storage and skip town to meet a very slow thief)
Flitter CryPro sent Plasma Beam to LlisandurM4 (Underpass Chest - Tall Tall Heights spiky tunnel to Salmon River 2)
Flitter CryPro sent Infant Metroid to LlisandurM4 (Capital Jail Chest - Sneaky chest in Dark Wing)
Flitter CryPro sent Luca Key to ryanffffffff (Capital Jail Chest - South Wing jail cell across from busted wall)
Flitter CryPro sent Adamant to ryanffffffff (Yamagawa M.A. Chest - Dead end)
Flitter CryPro sent Overdrive Ostrich Access Codes to ryanmmx2 (Skumparadise Chest - Lava-loving shrooms)
Flitter CryPro sent Spin Wheel to ryanmmx2 (Capital Jail Chest - Locked in broken East Wing jail cell)```
Oh good, with missile data I can finally kill bosses. XD
Oh also, here's a copy of the log
alright that chained into my CryPro finishing
i'll need 12 more puzzle pieces and then i can finish my jigsaw
grats on finishing your cry pro
LlisandurFF1 (Team #1) has completed their goal.
grats!
ryanmmx2 sent Level 3 Keycard to LlisandurM4 (Defeated Bubble Crab)
FF4 complete. All checks have been released.
Well done
LlisandurFF4 (Team #1) has completed their goal.
LlisandurFF4 sent Electric Spark to ryanmmx (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 5F -- item (Super Cannon destruction))
LlisandurFF4 sent Arms Upgrade to ryanmmx (Tower of Zot -- 6F -- item)
LlisandurFF4 sent Storm Tornado to ryanmmx (Cave Magnes -- Crystal Room -- item)
Nice. What do we have left?
About to do Metroid 4 then I'll be done.
Metroid Fusion, Axiom Verge and Mega Mans
Hm, may need charge beam.
[Hint]: LlisandurM4's Charge Beam is at Eribu - Wheelchair Room in FlitterAV's World. (priority)
I can get this with the ability to swap places with my drone
I should have it. I'd get it right now but I'm very sleepy
Yup, can't hurt SA-X without the charge beam. XD
Ok, whenever you get that I can beat it.
MMX done!
Hi
Let's play Axiom Verge
Thank you for address bomb, passcode tool, red coat (!), drone teleport, axiom disruptor, voranj, kilver, sudran key, and various upgrades
The game is finally fun to navigate
FlitterAV sent Charge Beam to LlisandurM4 (Eribu - Wheelchair Room)
Axiom Verge has an infinite height bug where you can combine a drill with drone launch and drone teleport to gain height, but it's annoying to do because it requires precise timing and you can't mash for it
Alright, mmx2 complete!
LlisandurM4 (Team #1) has completed their goal.
grats all!
Next month, I will drop Axiom Verge
It's a lot more fun in solo randomizer than it is in multiworld
Yeah I'm gonna have to drop mega man until I get my controller fixed. Playing without the back paddles is hell.
Oh, what do you normally use the back paddles for?
Dashing.
Makes it real easy to do dash jumps. Without it I have to claw my hand which hurt after a while. On snes I used rb but it's a little akward on an xbox controller
Makes sense
Thank you for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago game for August 2025. This month we've had 13 games, 29 spheres, and 4941 locations. The players in the playthrough file, listed from last to first receiving an item, are @tender pelican with FF1, @rare oxide with MMX2, @modern ivy with Crystal Project, then with Super Mario Sunshine, me with Ape Escape and Crystal Project, Llisandur with FF4 and FF6, Ryan with MMX, Llisandur with Metroid fusion, Ryan with FF4, Emerassi with Jigsaw, and my Axiom Verge was the earliest in sphere 7. (Drone teleport was indeed the last check I needed)
Included are the game log, spoiler log, yaml files and output files. The game link was at https://archipelago.gg/room/1rBi5lNKTFKlbpHPGMSSbg
13 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 64416
Hello, @here! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the **the end of September 2025 **. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run (or browse the archipelago discord server for unsupported games!), then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. Let's try to make sure that you like the game you picked and can complete it by the end of the month!
The game will start Tuesday, September 2nd or whenever everyone interested is ready.
In order to join, I will need the YAML files for whatever games you want to play. Please make sure you only join with a manageable workload, and the ability to play at least a little every four or so days.
For next month Ape Escape actually has a full door randomizer in the works. I hope it'll be ready to try out in time
@fierce vale there's an archipelago for the placid duck simulator
In addition to Ape Escape I'll play Crystal Project, and one of the following: Celeste Open World, Kirby Air Ride, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of the Sky, Ocarina of Time
entertaining, but ill pass
i might take part in this one with something else, but i'll learn if i have time monday
Got it
I'll play my usuals but i can send yamls and stuff until tomorrow
Absolutely. That's why there's leeway
Just final fantasy this month. Thank you!
here's mine!
huh, removing a feature, i wonder if it didn't work very well
partly because Silksong but also because I still have other stuff I want to get done and it's increasingly seeming like I simply do not have the energy to both develop and play randomizers at the same time
Understood. Hope to see you next game though
It worked, but things didn't carry over properly https://www.twitch.tv/pianoman7117/clip/CoyDarkWitchWutFace-V8zi4LG51B8ZUgHf
Lamps wouldn't work, monkeys would be inaccessible
ah yeah that's troublesome
"carry over" between what exactly?
Looks like the level geometry and graphics were changed properly but things like monkeys still acted as if the level was not shuffled
wow, that sounds like something that should've become clear in testing right away
The way the game is modded, it's done entirely via memory editing, so it may have worked in testing due to the specific setup
Either way, I'm going to stick with the version that lacks the new feature for this month
For now I'm going to test the yamls and apworlds everyone gave me. For jigsaw I'll use the 0.8.0 apworld. Let me know if you want a different one. 0.9.0 for Crystal project.
For ff4 I'm going to stick with the same apworld
Yep, generates fine
I'm waiting on YAMLs from Dr. Romulus, Llisandur and Chip if they're joining, and also my own
(instead of directly starting you in a random room, they start you in the normal first room then warp you. This makes it so everything works, at the cost of a janky-looking double loading screen)
i realised silksong and silent hill are releasing within the window so i will not be joining
Wow okay
Do you think they'll release a Silksong archipelago before Silksong is out
definitely not 
I'll be joining but I need to work out what I'm doing.
^ actual question I saw on the archipelago discord server
oh my response was serious too
someone made a Silksong thread super early so I've been watching that to see comments from e.g. the HK AP maintainers, and they've basically said we need to wait for the game to come out before we can even give estimates; atm no one's even sure if this is Unity or not, if it is Unity does it use IL2CPP, etc
yeah neither the mod side or the apworld side could be done without access to the game so it would require the game devs to do it themselves to have it available on release
it's also, frankly, a terrible idea to start developing a mod as complex as a randomizer extremely close to release, just because the devs are likely to patch things that affect your mod code and/or your rando logic (especially if you want glitches and speed tech to be in logic)
oh yeah for sure
even my OW rando has been broken by both of the patches that came out after the rando did, despite the rando coming multiple years after release, and those being tiny bugfix patches
this is one of the benefits of not using bepin/etc
we literally change the client to be exactly what what we want so we're immune to future patches
you mean... automated downpatching?
yeah we just use bsdiff so we could change notepad.exe into the file we wanted if we felt like it
ah ok
(well that particular diff would presumably involve "distributing copyrighted material", but yeah I get the idea)
it probably would but i really wouldn't care
I don't think that has anything to do with bepinex per se
yeah i just mean that sortof thing is a layer on top of the base game
at least with OW and 9S, my mod is trying to coexist with the rest of the modding community to some extent, and broadly speaking everyone targets the latest patch (possibly more patches, but rarely only an older patch), so even if I wanted to do automated downpatching it wouldn't be an option in practice
which could change on you
yeah that makes sense
that's our big loss from not being on latest version of crypro either
plus one of those breaking OW changes broke all of the mods because a piece of mod infra happened to depend on something that everyone agrees in retrospect it should not have
idiot ๐ฎ โ 7/21/25, 13:50
talk about how mobius SABOTAGED the modding community by removing the load-bearing menu button in one of their patches
that's pretty funny
it was so funny
partly because the mod infra people are active enough it got fixed in ~2 days
pretty brisk
Doing FF1, FF4, Metroid Fusion, and Metroid Zero Mission.
Thanks
oh right
i've been way too out of it all day, i forgot about my yamls
i'll put those together when i wake up tomorrow
i think i need to update archipelago versions, but my options are gonna be the same
It's time to fix up my Ape Escape YAML
This version has a feature where I can get rid of useless filler items and keep things at least useful
Default distribution:
25 Energy Chips: 4
3 Explosive Pellets: 3
3 Guided Pellets: 3
5 Cookies: 3
5 Energy Chips: 14
Cookie: 16
Energy Chip: 31
Explosive Pellet: 9
Guided Pellet: 9
Jacket: 7
Nothing: 0
Rainbow Cookie: 6```
I'm going to remove Energy Chip, 5 Energy Chips, 25 Energy Chips, Rainbow Cookie, Cookie, Explosive Pellet, Guided Pellet, and distribute their removed weight across all of the other results.
Maybe something like this:
25 Energy Chips: 0
3 Explosive Pellets: 12
3 Guided Pellets: 12
5 Cookies: 19
5 Energy Chips: 0
Cookie: 0
Energy Chip: 0
Explosive Pellet: 0
Guided Pellet: 0
Jacket: 7
Nothing: 0
Rainbow Cookie: 0
File "worlds\__init__.py", line 81, in load
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 999, in exec_module
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 488, in _call_with_frames_removed
File "worlds\tunic\__init__.py", line 14, in <module>
ImportError: cannot import name 'LogicRules' from 'worlds.tunic.options' (C:\ProgramData\Archipelago\custom_worlds\tunic.apworld\tunic\options.py)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "worlds\__init__.py", line 81, in load
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 999, in exec_module
File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 488, in _call_with_frames_removed
File "worlds\tunic\__init__.py", line 14, in <module>
ImportError: cannot import name 'LogicRules' from 'worlds.tunic.options' (C:\ProgramData\Archipelago\custom_worlds\tunic.apworld\tunic\options.py)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "Generate.py", line 216, in main
File "Generate.py", line 216, in <genexpr>
File "Generate.py", line 540, in roll_settings
File "Generate.py", line 466, in handle_option
File "worlds\ladx\Options.py", line 454, in verify
Exception: LADX Sprite 'false' not found. Possible sprites are: ['Link', 'Bowwow', 'Bunny', 'Luigi', 'Mario', 'Matty_LA', 'Richard', 'Tarin']
The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "__startup__.py", line 121, in run
File "console.py", line 25, in run
File "Generate.py", line 586, in <module>
File "Generate.py", line 239, in main
ValueError: File La DxRomulus.yaml is invalid. Please fix your yaml.
Press enter to close.```
I fixed it by replacing false with Link. Let me know if you want to change anything
Now, Explorers of the Sky wants me to use Bizhawk 2.10
Exception in <bound method MZMWorld.create_items of <worlds.mzm.MZMWorld object at 0x000002069D1FBAA0>> for player 10, named LlisandurM1ZM.
settings.py:197: UserWarning: TrackerSettings.player_files_path assigned from incompatible type NoneType
Exception ignored in atexit callback: <function Settings.__init__.<locals>.autosave at 0x0000020692D396C0>
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "settings.py", line 819, in autosave
File "settings.py", line 835, in save
File "settings.py", line 854, in dump
File "settings.py", line 757, in __getattribute__
AttributeError: module 'worlds.tunic' has no attribute 'TunicWorld'
Press enter to close.```
Hmm
Why does Metroid Zero Mission cause Tunic to throw an error?
Oh, apparently progression_deprioritized is new. Has there been a new archipelago version?
ah yeah they added that in 0.6.3
for the most part there wasn't much interesting in that version imo
All right, I'll get 0.6.3 then
dang, someone added the flag without doing the backcompat trick
but did you install the installer
I don't have a witty followup to this one
lol
Okay. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon works like a charm
They even added all sorts of features to it like cutscene skips and a warp system
Next I want to double check my crystal project settings
Oh, in order to minimize the amount of "progression" checks that are actually useless, I'm going to make all of my ores local
That's all the changes I wanted to make, and I have everyone's YAMLs working. I'm going to start the game up tomorrow night
six month wow you'd have to put so many games in that to make it take that long!
oh nvm its runescape it all makes sense now
Hi
It is time
Let's check to see if I didn't miss anything. I have yamls by Dr. Romulus, Emerassi, me, Llisandur, and Ryan. https://i.imgur.com/vJjuVBS.png
Ixrec and Chip expressed interest but decided not to join. That is everyone accounted for.
looks good to me
All right, let's generate and start
Apparently ore is not a group
The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "__startup__.py", line 121, in run
File "console.py", line 25, in run
File "Generate.py", line 586, in <module>
File "Generate.py", line 239, in main
ValueError: File Flitter Crystal Project.yaml is invalid. Please fix your yaml.```
But the tracker says it is
I fixed it
It was Ore instead of ore
12 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 64906
I'm going to update the pins
I think we're ready. @cold valve, @modern ivy, @tender pelican, @rare oxide, the game is on!
Let's play Ape Escape since it's easiest to start up and has a few checks guaranteed
yey
Hmm, my tracker is broken
Reporting the wrong level
Oh it's because this situation should never happen
This level is postgame
Okay, despite the bug, the game should be finishable so we're not doing over
However, the game is in BK mode
Crystal Project next
https://i.imgur.com/o477ij3.png boss down
That was definitely worth it.
[2025-09-03 00:02:13,020]: (Team #1) FlitterCryPro sent Progressive Sword to La DxRomulus (Soiled Den NPC - Dog Bone among the bones and flowers)
wow nice early sword
Infant Metroid for Llisandur M4, Dervish for me