#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer

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modern ivy
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but we CLOSE

cold valve
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Ah yes, the check where a goat catfishes a dude with a picture of princess peach

modern ivy
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as you do

lament tusk
lament tusk
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oh i found my kokiri sword guys

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2 shine gets

cold valve
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No bird key trixiesad

modern ivy
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so close

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I don't have OCD but if I'm stuck like this for long who knows

cold valve
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dr rOWmulus found their Supernova Trap (QM Ship Log: Quantum Shrine 3 - Entanglement Rule) are you fucking kidding me

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dr rOWmulus sent World Key to FlitterAE (QM: Explore the Sixth Location)

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dr rOWmulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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the 2 checks i never get

cold valve
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oh i did get a bird key

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it wasn't posted

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La DxRomulus sent Item - Okimoto N.S. Pass to Flitter (Evil Eagle Heart Container (Eagle's Tower))

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BK'd

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only two items remain:

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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Pegasus Boots is at ED (Sanctum): Above East Rooftop in FlitterNS's World. (priority)

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[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Nightmare Key (Angler's Tunnel) is at OW: Crusher Gauntlet in FlitterNS's World. (priority)

modern ivy
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somebody just made a very funny post in the archipelago future-games section

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gj buddy lol

rare oxide
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Alright, completed Mega Man X2! All games complete. :3

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Serges really can gtfo

lament tusk
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just ww left for me

midnight depot
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Nice

weary lagoon
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now I can go to the moon

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but ill wait for ixrec to play and get the card

midnight depot
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Looks like I can finish ape escape now, thanks!

weary lagoon
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oh oops theres another item I havent hinted that I need

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lets get on that

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[Hint]: ArtiTTYD's Station Key 1 is at ED (Living Area): Dusk Guardian Recording Device in FlitterNS's World. (priority)

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Unicorn to LlisandurFF6 (4-1 Crabby Beach Monkey 7 - Moko)

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FlitterAE (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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FlitterAE sent Roll Fragment to AF-Yacht (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 8 - Shaw)
FlitterAE sent Oath to Order to Dessy-MM (9-1 Monkey Madness Coin - Monkey Head)
FlitterAE sent Item - Skumparadise Pass to Flitter (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 19 - Wrench)```
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Let's do Nine Sols

lament tusk
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blergh

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honestly getting fed up with WW already, i forgot how annoying the wind temple was

midnight depot
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Is anything important there?

lament tusk
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i forgot my settings but i think i need to do all temples to unlock the final area

midnight depot
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Here are your settings:

lament tusk
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4 required dungeons

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i dont know which 4 tho

midnight depot
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Is there a way to check in-game?

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Wait, it doesn't say that

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Required Bosses Mode: No
Number of Required Bosses: 4

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So if it was on it'd be four but it's off

lament tusk
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oh

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i find it hard to read these

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tbh tho i really dont think im gonna have time to finish WW before this month is over
and im just not having fun
can you just !release it for me? im done i think

midnight depot
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Fine, but please make sure to pick settings that you enjoy next time

lament tusk
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its not that

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its that my month has been super unexpectedly busy

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i just havent had time, and when i have, ive just not wanted to play games i feel forced to play

midnight depot
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Fair enough

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WWeganought sent Small Key (Tail Cave) to Dessy-LADX (Wind Temple - Big Key Chest)
WWeganought sent Dog Food to Dessy-LADX (Windfall Island - Chu Jelly Juice Shop - Give 15 Green Chu Jelly)
WWeganought sent Small Key (Snowhead) to Dessy-MM (Earth Temple - Stalfos Miniboss Room)
WWeganought sent Item - Progressive Mount Instrument to Emerassi (Forbidden Woods - Climb to Top Using Boko Baba Bulbs)
WWeganought sent Item - Mercury Shrine Pass to Emerassi (Windfall Island - Mrs. Marie - Give 1 Joy Pendant)
WWeganought sent Seal of Goumang to FlitterNS (Windfall Island - Maggie's Father - Give 20 Skull Necklaces)
WWeganought sent Shine Sprite to ArtiSMS (Ganon's Tower - Maze Chest)```
lament tusk
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thanks

midnight depot
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I forgot how to get to the empyrean district

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Without double jump you can get the chest on the ledge to the upper left by tricking the turret to the right of the screen into shooting the chest

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Empyrean district bell puzzle solution 25412

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Oh I somehow disconnected

weary lagoon
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you had requried boss mode off

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so its not really like oot where you need to beat the dungeons

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you need the triforce, fully upgraded master sword, and light arrow

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and grapling and hookshot

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basically all the items needed for the final dungeon

lament tusk
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i thought that was the case

midnight depot
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This game needs a trap where Yanlao snipes the shit out of you

midnight depot
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What do I need to beat the game?

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All seals?

weary lagoon
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all seals and the golden oak nut

fresh hill
midnight depot
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What is AM?

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AM - After Tao Fruit | AM: 1st Chest After Flower

fresh hill
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not that I don't enjoy the games when I do get to them, but between being early blocked for weeks and then also too sick to do anything for a week-ish, most of the times I'd usually make progress just weren't available

midnight depot
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Oh, Abandoned mine

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FlitterNS sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to La DxRomulus (ED (Living Area): Middle Elevator Chest Room)
FlitterNS sent Category Twos to AF-Yacht (ED (Living Area): Upper Right of Five Bells Room)
FlitterNS sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (ED (Living Area): Tianhuo Flower)
FlitterNS sent Station Key 1 to ArtiTTYD (ED (Living Area): Dusk Guardian Recording Device)
FlitterNS sent Pegasus Boots to La DxRomulus (ED (Sanctum): Above East Rooftop)
FlitterNS sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to Dessy-LADX (Nuwa's Tianhuo Flower)
FlitterNS sent Sword Upgrade to Ixfox (Sky Tower: Ropes Below Root Node)
FlitterNS sent Small Key (Spirit Temple) to Meganoot (OW: Retrieve Chip From Shanhai 9000)
FlitterNS sent Cathedral Elevator Fuse to Ixfox (IW: Shielded Walking Chest)
FlitterNS sent Nightmare Key (Angler's Tunnel) to La DxRomulus (OW: Crusher Gauntlet)
FlitterNS sent Item - Viridian Book to Flitter (BR: Gauntlet Part 2 Chest Past Beetle)
FlitterNS sent Gold Leaf to Dessy-LADX (IW: Nymph Puzzle Room)
FlitterNS sent Fairy to Ixfox (BR: Vault 2nd Chest)```
weary lagoon
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Did Wind Waker not have any shine sprites

midnight depot
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Game's a lot easier to navigate when I have all movement abilities

weary lagoon
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think I had 82 before the release too

midnight depot
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The last shine sprite you got was [2025-07-29 10:24:33,594]: (Team #1) WWeganought sent Shine Sprite to ArtiSMS (Ganon's Tower - Maze Chest)

weary lagoon
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ooh

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82/90!!

midnight depot
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I want jerky, awkward movement

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lmao

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Results in a softlock

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Oh, I can just warp past it

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Okay, I need two more seals

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[Hint]: FlitterNS's Seal of Fuxi is at Frog's Domain - Main Room Pot 1 in Ixfox's World. (priority)
[Hint]: FlitterNS's Seal of Jiequan is at X-Naut Fortress Crane Room: Coin 4 in ArtiTTYD's World. (priority)

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These are the last items I need to beat the game

lament tusk
fresh hill
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ok yeah nothing that severe on my end

finite monolith
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Sorry for your loss.

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I'll work on Stone Tower after the kids' dentist visit.

lament tusk
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She's not dead yet

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But she's gone from months to live to maybe weeks
Things have just been escalating faster than expected, lots of work to do, trying to squeeze time in to see her

fresh hill
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ok, nothing has come up today to give me an excuse not to make progress, so let's finally play Ixroid properly

midnight depot
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Good luck!

fresh hill
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Ixroid sent Grappling Hook to WWeganought (Sector 2 (TRO) -- Zazabi Speedway -- Lower Item)

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I'm so bad at speed boost tricks

weary lagoon
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so thats where it was

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i was thinking it was an insanely late grappling hook

fresh hill
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to be fair, this was out of logic even the last time I did play Ixroid; this is my first session with the speed booster

midnight depot
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How do you feel about the game?

weary lagoon
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vroom vroom

fresh hill
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as in, Fusion in general? or the quality of the rando?

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not sure I can fairly judge either given how this month went

midnight depot
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The former

fresh hill
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oh Bottle is only useful in SMZ3

fresh hill
# midnight depot The former

so this is tricky because Metroid Fusion and Zero Mission were basically my introduction to not just this series but the entire metroidvania genre; Fusion in particular I probably played dozens of times over as a teenager back when I carried my GBA everywhere with me, which has only ever happened with a single digit number of games in my life

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it's tempting to try and judge it by the standards of later metroidvanias but, aside from the cold take that "yes of course Dread is slightly better in several ways", most of what comes to mind is all the stuff specific to Metroid that hardly any other metroidvanias do any more ppenk

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Ixroid sent Item - Dog Bone to Flitter (Sector 2 (TRO) -- Level 1 Security Room)

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sector 2 fully cleared

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I just realized I have every progression item except Varia Suit, which is in Ixfox blocked on a fuse I think

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ok today it's in logic for Ixfox

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feels weird setting a hint to priority just for myself, but since you can't filter found hints it's kinda important

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so by Fusion logic, I should be able to full clear Sector 4, and almost Sectors 1 and 5, but the exceptions in 1 and 5 feel like places I can probably just tank the damage now that you've all found nearly every E tank

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so I'll try to do at least that much, then see if I feel like Tunic

fresh hill
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Ixroid sent Nightmare Key (Bottle Grotto) to Dessy-LADX (Sector 4 (AQA) -- Reservoir Vault -- Lower Item)

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Ixroid sent Small Key (Stone Tower) to Dessy-MM (Sector 4 (AQA) -- Broken Bridge)

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Sector 4 cleared

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Ixroid sent Small Key (Snowhead) to Dessy-MM (Sector 5 (ARC) -- Flooded Airlock to Sector 4 (AQA))

fresh hill
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Ixroid sent SmMapWreckedShip to Dessy-SMZ3 (Sector 5 (ARC) -- Security Shaft East)
Ixroid sent DkMatter to LlisandurFF4 (Sector 5 (ARC) -- E-Tank Mimic Den)

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strangely, the locations I can't tank my way into are in logic izzywhat

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but that's all of Sector 5 I can figure out how to do

fresh hill
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Main Deck clear

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also beat the game why not

modern ivy
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grats

fresh hill
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what else would be my reward for diving into lava without the varia suit

lament tusk
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Well, behind the sail and the wind waker itself, but you always start with those, kinda have to to actually play lol

fresh hill
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yeah I'm thinking I'm done after Sector 1 is cleared

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which means this loser is my last location

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and we're done

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71.43%

modern ivy
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you know that last screenshot i think i've done that before in smash brothers

fresh hill
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might just leave the slot there

modern ivy
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you winning is a faithful reenactment imo

fresh hill
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admittedly this is one of the weaker Ridley fights in the series; unlike most of Fusion's bosses it's kinda impossible to dodge him consistently so it quickly turns into a raw missile ammo + DPS check

modern ivy
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i do like it better when it's feasible to dodge

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also we were talking about super mario sunshine rando earlier and it looks like someone just made a rando for a romhack version of it today

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that sounds wild and probably very hard lol

dawn wigeon
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LADX complete and released

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Dessy-LADX sent Item - Land's End Pass to Flitter (Nightmare Door Key (Key Cavern))

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Dessy-LADX sent Item - Lost Penguin to Flitter (Manbo's Mambo (Tal Tal Heights))

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a couple blue coins, a shine sprite, and a couple puzzle pieces too

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And a skulltula

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[Hint]: Dessy-MM's Elegy of Emptiness is at Spawning Meadows Shop - Nans Knick Knacks 2 in Flitter's World. (priority) This is the only check I need to beat MM

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Dessy-SMZ3's Quake is at Okimoto N.S. Chest - On yashiki balcony in Flitter's World. (priority) This is the only check I need to beat SMZ3

midnight depot
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Thanks

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I can get that tomorrow

cold valve
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let's finish ladx

cold valve
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La DxRomulus (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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i think i'll sit august out, i'll be on vacation for some of it

midnight depot
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Got it. Thanks for playing with me!

modern ivy
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When i saw August coming up i was like shiiiiit I want to get the next Cry Pro version out before the next async

weary lagoon
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Just one more item before I can beat TTYD

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Key card in Ixroids world

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SMS has 86/90 shines

midnight depot
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Hi. Let's play Crystal Project

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Wow

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Golden quintar, all penguins, all bones, all clamshells, hunter

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I only need crabs and three licenses to get every remaining check

midnight depot
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All right, back in BK mode

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[Hint]: Flitter's Item - Progressive Luxury Pass is at Ikana Well Rightside Torch Chest in Dessy-MM's World. (priority)

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Here's what I got, broken down by person and filtered to unfinished games only.```
Flitter sent Couple's Mask to AFalcon-MM (Skumparadise Region Completion)

Flitter sent Blue Coin to ArtiSMS (Greenshire Reprise Chest - Atop the waterfalls)
Flitter sent Shine Sprite to ArtiSMS (Okimoto N.S. Chest - East ground floor room)
Flitter sent Blue Coin to ArtiSMS (Overpass NPC - Swim up koi pond waterfall into cherry tree)
Flitter sent Station Key 2 to ArtiTTYD (Skumparadise Chest - Lava-loving shrooms)

Flitter sent Energy Tank to Ixroid (Greenshire Reprise NPC - The furthest southern edge Silver)
Flitter sent Red Questagon to Ixfox (The Sequoia NPC - Low-hanging Diamond fruit)

Flitter sent Artifact of Spirit to Dessy-MP (Greenshire Reprise NPC - Silver across 1st bridge hiding in a crack)
Flitter sent Circus Leader's Mask to Dessy-MM (Land's End Region Completion)
Flitter sent Quake to Dessy-SMZ3 (Okimoto N.S. Chest - On yashiki balcony)

Flitter sent Item - Ice Cell Key to Emerassi (The Sequoia Boss - Spirit Cage)```

fresh hill
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that should be go mode for Ixfox

midnight depot
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Nice!

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We've got today and tomorrow to finish on time if possible

dawn wigeon
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That should be my last artifact for Metroid Prime

midnight depot
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Good!

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We're at like nine games done from completion

fresh hill
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so Cane of Byrna is "Avoid"; does that mean don't pick it up too early, or don't pick it up ever?

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separately, Flitter needs Seal of Fuxi to finish 9S, which is in my Frog's Domain, which I can't get to without:
[Hint]: Ixfox's Ladders to Frog's Domain is at Corona Mountain - Front Right Lava Blue Coin in ArtiSMS's World. (priority)
everything else in Ixfox is in logic now

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@modern ivy Ixfox sent Item - Seaside Cliffs Pass to Emerassi (Maze Cave - Maze Room Holy Cross)

modern ivy
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its go time!

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ty

fresh hill
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overworld cleared

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I believe my last important hint is Dessy's Varia (suit?) in Ziggurat, so I'll do that area... mostly, stopping before the Cane if I still haven't heard back on that rdsnrk

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Ixfox sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to Emerassi (Quarry - [Central] Below Entry Walkway)
oh hey there's more for you too

modern ivy
cold valve
modern ivy
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and that's goal!

cold valve
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AP's native hint priority categories are not as helpful as they could be

fresh hill
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tbf, what wouldn't have this ambiguity?

cold valve
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Well, cheese tracker has better ones

fresh hill
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(back when these were being designed in the AP dev channels, I'm pretty sure "avoid" was intended for items that did hurt to get, either in the usual sense of traps or even just progression that was so powerful you didn't want it early)

cold valve
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Ah i guess that's a thing too

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But like, there's no "i don't care about this" option

modern ivy
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sent these

fresh hill
cold valve
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I like these better than the AP ones

fresh hill
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I guess cheese is missing an Avoid, and splits Priority into 3 different levels?

cold valve
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AP needs an "unset" or "unknown" option as the default

fresh hill
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actually AP has "Unspecified" as the default for auto-generated hints

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Priority is the default for human-generated hints

cold valve
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Hm

modern ivy
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^

fresh hill
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my hint page has tons of both

modern ivy
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my biggest problem with the hint priorities is that you have to set them on that page

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that page with NO FILTERS

cold valve
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Yeah

modern ivy
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its very annoying to use once you have more than like 5 hints in the rando

fresh hill
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yeah, it's a big improvement over not having a hint tab at all, but it has always badly needed a way to filter out Found hints

modern ivy
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absolutely

weary lagoon
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corona mountain is the final area

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i need 90 shine sprites!!!

fresh hill
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which everyone has been saying forever since long before even sorting was a thing

modern ivy
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you might have it now i just finished

fresh hill
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oh also the "In Logic" column can't do sorting because the interface between core and UT is not designed for that lol

modern ivy
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i'm not clear what all items just came out but i checked the hinted stuff

cold valve
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Anyway i like "I'm waiting on this", "this is progress", "nice to have", "don't care" and/or "junk", and "don't get if you have a choice"

modern ivy
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those are more immediately understandable to me

fresh hill
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fwiw, if anyone wanted to contribute to core AP, hint filtering is probably one of the few features that someone could "just" show up and do if they really wanted to (hint priorities were like that)

modern ivy
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i'd have to figure out kivy ui then

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might be worth it anyway though lol

cold valve
fresh hill
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yeah, and the more statuses you add the more ambiguity problems arise

cold valve
fresh hill
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a big talking point when these were added was that many games deliberately choose not to auto-hint because the vanilla AP interfaces were so bad at handling lots of hints, and a manual distinction between which hints do and don't matter was considered the main solution to that

modern ivy
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some of them do seem like they'd double up a little i guess

fresh hill
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I think another factor is that the item being hinted already has fillter/useful/progression information, so a lot of those varying degrees of priority are already implied (imperfectly but still)

cold valve
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Yeah but ladx calls rupees progression

fresh hill
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I do think there'd be significant value in an "I'm blocked" status, not just that I really want the thing but my slot is unplayable until I get this

midnight depot
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Flitter

cold valve
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Flitter

fresh hill
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I wonder if ladx will mark rupees deprioritized now that that's a flag rdsnrk

cold valve
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Technically rupees are progression because you have to buy a couple things

weary lagoon
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i use critical for items im blocked on in cheese

cold valve
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But i just don't want people pinging me over 20 rupees

fresh hill
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oh well, I'm always on the side of fewer, more objective categories when design issues like this show up

cold valve
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I agree that early on, "I'm waiting on this" and "this is progression" are largely the same, but later on they take on different usages

fresh hill
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honestly cheese has so much going on I still haven't figured out how to make it useful for me; all the features I actually want seem to already be in the core tools and UT

weary lagoon
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I update it to show people that Im BKed as fkkk

cold valve
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I think a lot of it comes down to how a particular group uses them

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I rarely am NOT BKd so i use it for items that will un-BK me usually

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But my games are by nature usually pretty well spread out over the course of the playthrough

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Usually

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This month was weird

fresh hill
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@dawn wigeon Ixfox sent Varia to Dessy-SMZ3 (Rooted Ziggurat Lower - Spider Ambush)

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and that's Ziggurat done except for the "Avoid" boss

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let's finish the slot now

modern ivy
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grats!

fresh hill
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as far as I know, the only important items left in my slots are FlitterNS's Seal of Fuxi and maybe AFalcon's Cane of Byrna

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the latter I can get whenever if it's actually good while the former is waiting on ArtiSMS to find my ladders

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oh FlitterNS is at 100% without goal, did that get !released?

dawn wigeon
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Prime down, SMZ3 tonight

dawn wigeon
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It also means I will just release it to you when I beat the game as by the time I get to the moon it will just be faster to win than to get that HP, go back to Ikana, and go through all the gibdos

midnight depot
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Got it

dawn wigeon
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SMZ3 done and released, 2 puzzle pieces + shine sprite + blue coin

modern ivy
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grats!

dawn wigeon
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MM just waiting on Flitter

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Just noticed that game is goaled but not released...

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Just went ahead and did !getitem to be able to complete

dawn wigeon
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MM done and released

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Dessy-MM sent Job - Wizard to Flitter (Stock Pot Inn Anju and Kafei)
Dessy-MM sent Item - Progressive Luxury Pass to Flitter (Ikana Well Rightside Torch Chest)
Dessy-MM sent Item - Undersea Crab to Flitter (Stone Tower Temple Armos Room Back Chest)
``` + Shine sprite + Blue coin
weary lagoon
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Not everyone releases as soon as they are goaled ๐Ÿ˜…

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Flitter might have intended to play more, just keep in mind

midnight depot
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That's true!

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I meant to play until I get every relevant item

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I did, however, permit everyone to do !getitem in case they think it's important and I'm not available at the time to fix things

midnight depot
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Hi. Let's play Crystal Project

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I have all crabs, ancient labyrinth, luxury shop 2, final depths boss

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Flitter sent Item - Progressive Level to Emerassi (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Heavy Armor 3)
Flitter sent KeyTR to Dessy-SMZ3 (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Medium Armor 1)
Flitter found their Item - Tram Key (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Magic Weapons 3)
Flitter sent WT Big Key to WWeganought (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Exotic Weapons 1)
Flitter found their Job - Valkyrie (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Exotic Weapons 4)
Flitter sent Item - Quintar Sanctum Pass to Emerassi (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Martial Weapons 6)
Flitter sent Item - Capital Pipeline Pass to Emerassi (Capital Sequoia Shop - Upgraded Luxury Shop Martial Weapons 3)
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Flitter sent Item - Clamshell to Emerassi (The Deep Sea NPC - Crab people crab people)

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The gall of this fucking game

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Flitter found their Item - Spawning Meadows Pass (The Depths Region Completion)

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My spawning meadows was locked behind the deepest endgame chain

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Flitter sent Item - Salmon Bay Pass to Emerassi (Spawning Meadows Chest - Above waterfall)

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Yeah, lots of Dessy's progression items were in Spawning Meadows, and they're now all irrelevant

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Last thing to do is the labyrinth

midnight depot
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There. 100% of checks

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That was 21 hours 42 minutes

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All I need now is Nine Sols

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FlitterNS's Seal of Jiequan is at X-Naut Fortress Crane Room: Coin 4 in ArtiTTYD's World. ([u]priority[/u])
FlitterNS's Seal of Fuxi is at Frog's Domain - Main Room Pot 1 in Ixfox's World. ([u]priority[/u])

midnight depot
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Save us, Artiks!

weary lagoon
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what about the ixroid key card

midnight depot
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That's a different game

fresh hill
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I'm not aware of any valuable items left in Ixroid

weary lagoon
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ive talked about it so many times

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twice!!

fresh hill
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oh you mean your card key in ixroid

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ok, that's still out of logic

weary lagoon
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what does it need

fresh hill
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I don't know

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guess we're booting up this slot again

weary lagoon
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its my last item for go mode

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but i gotta go run now so ill finish up later this evening

fresh hill
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...getting back to the main elevator hub took way longer than expected

midnight depot
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Thank god for fast forward

fresh hill
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oh it's not a cutscene thing, I ended last session in the most awkward corner of the map where one-way transitions force me to take a convoluted route back to the main area

midnight depot
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I fast forward any slow gameplay, cutscenes or not

fresh hill
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there wasn't really any fast-forwardable gameplay along the route either, most of that time was spent figuring out the route itself

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(to be clear this is mostly a good thing)

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ok now it all makes sense

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this room is on the way to Artiks' card key

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Varia Suit is the only item I'm missing, and after the logic issues I reported last session, I'm pretty sure Fusion's cold resistance is tied to Varia Suit

midnight depot
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Huge axiom verge vibes

fresh hill
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but at this point I can just tank it

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I am so bad at speed booster puzzles

tender pelican
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I should try fusion zero mission randos. And yeah, fusion ties cold resist to varia.

fresh hill
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almost rdwut

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yeah I think I have to look this one up

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huh, I could've sworn jumping ends the boost

dawn wigeon
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Nah boosts are different in the GBA ones, it lets them make the shinespark puzzles especially annoying

fresh hill
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@weary lagoon Ixroid sent Card Key 3 to ArtiTTYD (Sector 6 (NOC) -- Spaceboost Alley -- Lower Item)

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granted I originally played these when online walkthroughs weren't pervasive yet so there was no good way to look up how any game's speed boost actually worked

dawn wigeon
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I still haven't replayed Fusion since 2002

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I liked Zero Mission a lot better. Fusion is a fine game, but it's a terrible Metroid game

fresh hill
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wow

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I always liked both

dawn wigeon
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I will play it again at some point, but it's a very linear experience, at least in vanilla.

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Probably makes for a good randomizer

fresh hill
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yeah

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I've never cared that strongly about how linear a metroidvania is, as long as it doesn't mislead about that (e.g. some Castlevanias heavily imply they're more freeform then turn out to be painfully cryptically linear)

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anyway made it to a save room so we're probably done with that slot for real this time

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it never bothered me in Fusion since Fusion's quite upfront about what the goal is and never implies there are alternate routes to take

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Nine Sols is another interesting example since it has linear parts, and basically tells you whether you're in a linear part or whether you actually have multiple objectives now

weary lagoon
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I have 90 shine sprites!!!!

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Bwaahahaha! The water is great ey junior??!!

midnight depot
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What?

weary lagoon
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you havent played this game....?

midnight depot
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I have but what you said still makes no sense

weary lagoon
#

its bowsers iconic line

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the one time they were brave enough to voice act Bowser

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ArtiSMS (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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ArtiSMS sent Ladders to Frog's Domain to Ixfox (Corona Mountain - Front Right Lava Blue Coin)

midnight depot
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Oh, well you had missing punctuation so no way I could've guessed

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Nice work!

weary lagoon
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that was the only relevant item left

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looks like its just our two games left

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Seems like TTYD by design just ends up in this end game slog where everyone else is done but I still have to play for 3 hours to finish

midnight depot
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That's the paper mario curse

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Bad last dungeon every time

weary lagoon
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I still have to complete chapter six and seven because I just got their final items too

midnight depot
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@fresh hill you have the item!

weary lagoon
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alright timer on

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lets see how long my go mode rush takes

midnight depot
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Power went out again

fresh hill
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ok starting Tunic

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I have a shield now

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I remember none of the warps ppenk

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ok it's this one

weary lagoon
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LETS GOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fresh hill
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@midnight depot Ixfox sent Seal of Fuxi to FlitterNS (Frog's Domain - Main Room Pot 1)
naturally the in-game messages put the filler item first

midnight depot
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Thanks!

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I have electricity and internet back so I'll finish up my game

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r2modman sucks to use

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I just want the game to start up. I don't want to start the mod launcher, start a profile, select between vanilla and modded, and only then start playing

fresh hill
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yeah, coming from the OW mod manager, r2modman's UX is baffling; it could just not do a few things and be 10x better

midnight depot
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Fuck I'm one short

weary lagoon
#

ArtiTTYD found their Crystal Star (X-Naut Fortress Boss Room: Crystal Star)

weary lagoon
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starting final boss on exactly 1hour

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my dmg is so good I almost killed her before she went immune lol

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TIME!!!

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1h 21 min

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and released @midnight depot

midnight depot
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Thanks!

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FlitterNS (Team #1) has completed their goal.

weary lagoon
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that was fast

midnight depot
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I was waiting at the final boss door

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That's everyone! In the nick of time too

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Well done

weary lagoon
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ye we're awesome

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everyone leave a frierenproudbw to show your pride

fresh hill
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did you have enough upgrades to first-try ๐Ÿฅš ?

midnight depot
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Yeah I had everything maxed

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Also I did the normal ending instead of true ending

fresh hill
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fair

midnight depot
#

Thank you for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago game for July 2025. This month we've had 28 games, 41 spheres and 10113 locations. The players in the playthrough file, listed from last to first receiving an item, are @tender pelican, @modern ivy, @dawn wigeon, @finite monolith, @weary lagoon, @lament tusk, @midnight depot, @fresh hill, @cold valve, and @rare oxide at sphere 30. Included are the game log, spoiler log, YAML files and output file. The game link was: https://archipelago.gg/room/uZJjmfTyS3iGxWDMFi-wSg

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Hello, @here! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the **the end of August 2025 **. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run (or browse the archipelago discord server for unsupported games!), then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. Let's try to make sure that you like the game you picked and can complete it by the end of the month!
The game will start Monday, August 4th or whenever everyone interested is ready.

In order to join, I will need the YAML files for whatever games you want to play. Please make sure you only join with a manageable workload, and the ability to play at least a little every four or so days.

fierce vale
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paissapretty i woulda been free this month... unfortunatly runescape

midnight depot
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For next game I intend to play Crystal Project, Ape Escape, and maybe Axiom Verge or nothing.

midnight depot
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There's an archipelago for f2p ironman chunk rando

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Probably should exclude 43 prayer, Obor and Bryophyta if you do play, otherwise it'll be a forty hour grind

modern ivy
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Thanks for hosting the async!

midnight depot
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I had a lot of fun. Thanks for playing with me

dawn wigeon
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Thanks for hosting!

cold valve
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Thanks again for organizing this

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Next month I'll be gone for over a week right at the end of the month so it's probably not a good idea to not be able to play then. So unfortunately I'll sit August out

modern ivy
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i'm gonna try super mario sunshine next go round but wowee this is a slow download

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it's been going for over 5 hours already lol

midnight depot
# modern ivy

Remember to make it smaller by converting it to RVZ. Dolphin can do that. It's lossless and reversible and doesn't impact performance

weary lagoon
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I will skip August as Im starting a new role at work and id also like to get back to Donkey Kong

modern ivy
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good luck at the new role

finite monolith
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Thanks for hosting!

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's set up my games for next month, three days from now

midnight depot
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All right, that's all three games installed. Let's configure them

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For Ape Escape, the tokens feature was useless. I'm going to cut it out, and make each world key unlock a world instead of just a level. Additionally, I'm going to start with the radar instead of hinting it, since I always got it too late for it to be convenient. For water net, I'm going to experiment with making it one item instead of two progressive items.

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For Axiom Verge, it looks like there's a lot of tricks I don't know. I used to speedrun the vanilla randomizer, but I'm going to leave all the tricks off for now.

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For Crystal Project, I'm going to start with one job instead of six. I'm going to REMOVE shopsanity because I want to be able to stock up on four copies of accessories or get more consumables. I'm going to make it so mounts are split into their own chains. I'm going to keep the level caps for now because it's a good way to discourage me from grinding too early. I'm going to make sure there aren't too many cap increases by setting it to 10 levels each. For keys I'm experimenting with just having skeleton key and no other keys ever. I'm going to disable progressive equipment because I believe there's no such thing and even early game equipment has late game utility. I'm turning off summon shuffle because I don't want duplicates.

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That's all for config. Let's test

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Finally, I'm going to update archipelago itself to 0.6.2

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Let's generate and see if it works

midnight depot
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Everything works fine

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I have six games so far. Is anyone joining this month?

tender pelican
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I'm going to see if I can get Dark Souls 1 to work. Otherwise I'll be doing at least FF1, FF4, and FF6.

tender pelican
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Should I switch to Archipelago 0.6.2?

midnight depot
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Yes? I'm not sure if you absolutely have to but you should

midnight depot
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Axiom Verge updated the very next day

fresh hill
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how much it matters will always depend on the game

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in this case it comes with an new UI that's probably worth getting used to before something forces the issue

tender pelican
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Welp, DS1 doesn't work in linux. the game does, but the UI of the AP executable for it doesn't.

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Gotta wait I guess.

fresh hill
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huh, I've always been told the core AP tools work fine on Linux and it's the game clients that would have issues

tender pelican
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Yeah, they do. It's just the secondary executable that injects into DS1 that doesn't work.

fresh hill
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...oh, yeah, that makes sense

rare oxide
midnight depot
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Hi.

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We start tomorrow, so make sure you give me your YAMLs and apworlds if you want to join the August game.

tender pelican
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FF1, FF4, FF6, and Metroid Fusion since I couldn't get DS1 to work. I included the Metroid apworld just in case, but I think it's the same as Ixrec used last month.

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's update Axiom verge, then generate

midnight depot
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Okay, so I accidentally unplugged my computer

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All right. Game is up. Let's make sure I didn't forget anything

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Now who needs a patch?

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FF1,

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No

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Nobody needs a patch

tender pelican
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FF1 is already set up. Should be FF4.

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And FF6 I think.

midnight depot
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FF4 patch is downloadable from the game now. Same for FF6

tender pelican
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Oh, looks like they're included now.

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Neat.

modern ivy
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i'm very happy that feature made it into 0.6.2

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love not having to DM people patches

midnight depot
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Pin is updated

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Let me know if anything went wrong!

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Let's play Axiom Verge

fresh hill
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damn that is a tiny game compared to our last few

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I feel better that it's not just me who isn't up for august

midnight depot
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Thirteen games is still no slouch

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Archipelago needs a core feature that easily tells Axiom verge there's no other axiom verge in this room so I don't have to type "FlitterAV"

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All 1 accessible locations have been checked! Congrats!

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Crystal Project next

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My starting job for Crystal Project is Valkyrie

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Not bad

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My starting region is soiled den

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Flitter CryPro sent Item - Progressive Mount Instrument to EmerassiCP (Soiled Den Chest - Riverside)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Gaea Stone to EmerassiCP (Soiled Den NPC - Dog Bone among the bones and flowers)

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Let's wrap today up with Ape Escape

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Ape Escape is so nice compared to Ocarina of Time

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No patching or anything

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Just update the apworld and connect through the generic bizhawk connector

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All the changes are done by memory editing

modern ivy
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ooo starting with quintar pass haha

midnight depot
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That's all three games in BK mode

modern ivy
midnight depot
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Canoe's big

modern ivy
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looks like Reid has much better armor than normal this time ;)

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Cry Pro BK

midnight depot
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Thanks

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With a weapon I should be able to leave spawn in Axiom Verge

modern ivy
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good news sunshine is working on the real one too

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go, fight that centipede

modern ivy
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i'm not technically bk on sunshine but i also have no idea where to find more coins in delfino plaza, i only made it to 89

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other than that i think i'm all finished up my sphere 1

tender pelican
#

LlisandurFF4 sent Reverse Slicer to FlitterAV (Baron Castle -- 1F -- Starting item)
LlisandurFF4 sent Ion Beam to FlitterAV (Damcyan -- Treasury entrance -- middle cell, right)
LlisandurFF4 sent Magic Punch to FlitterAE (Watery Pass -- Exit ("North") -- bottom right)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Progressive Level to Flitter CryPro (Watery Pass -- Exit ("North") -- bridge chest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Progressive Quintar Flute to Flitter CryPro (Damcyan -- 2F -- chest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Undersea Crab to Flitter CryPro (Agart -- Exterior -- grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - West Lookout Token to Flitter CryPro (Mt. Ordeals -- 3F ("7th Station") -- center)
LlisandurFF4 sent Job - Aegis to Flitter CryPro (Silvera -- Exterior -- east grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Ganymede Stone to Flitter CryPro (Island Chocobo Forest -- grass)

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LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Triton Stone to EmerassiCP (Baron Town -- Exterior -- water, top)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Baron Chocobo Forest -- grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Progressive Luxury Pass to EmerassiCP (Mist Village -- Rydia's house -- tiara room)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Capital Jail Pass to EmerassiCP (Watery Pass -- Entrance ("South") -- center-right)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Cell Key to EmerassiCP (Mt. Ordeals -- 1F -- bottom)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Progressive Level to EmerassiCP (Mt. Ordeals Chocobo Forest -- grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Dione Stone to EmerassiCP (Silvera -- Exterior -- northeast grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Luxury Key to EmerassiCP (Fabul Chocobo Forest -- grass)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Capital Sequoia Pass to EmerassiCP (Black Chocobo Forest -- south grass)

rare oxide
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Purble mega men

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Also I have, like, seven hp lmao

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ryanmmx sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Intro Stage - Defeated Bee Blader #1)
ryanmmx sent Item - Viridian Book to EmerassiCP (Intro Stage - Defeated Bee Blader #2)
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Huh. Cecil/Kain start. Classic.

tender pelican
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I got Edward/Rydia. XD

rare oxide
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lol

tender pelican
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I also have at 2 Yangs and one more in an after-boss slot.

rare oxide
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Cool, Baron sells apples

tender pelican
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Ye

rare oxide
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ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Baron Castle -- 1F -- Starting item)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Black Squirrel to Flitter CryPro (Baron Town -- Exterior -- pot outside inn)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmerassiCP (Baron Town -- Exterior -- water, top)
ryanffffffff sent Infant Metroid to LlisandurM4 (Baron Chocobo Forest -- grass)
ryanffffffff sent Monkey Madness Monkey Lamp to FlitterAE (Mist Cave -- top left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Progressive Level to EmerassiCP (Mist Cave -- top right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Cell Key to EmerassiCP (Mist Cave -- center)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Sequoia Athenaeum Pass to EmerassiCP (Mist Cave -- bottom right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (Mist Village -- Rydia's house -- crawlspace, bottom right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Mist Village -- Rydia's house -- crawlspace, top left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Red Door Key to EmerassiCP (Mist Village -- Exterior -- north grass)
ryanffffffff sent R.C. Car to FlitterAE (Damcyan -- 2F -- chest)
ryanffffffff sent Speed Booster to LlisandurM4 (Antlion Cave -- B1F -- bottom left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (Antlion Cave -- B2F -- bottom right)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Antlion Cave -- B2F -- top left)
ryanffffffff sent Diffusion Missile to LlisandurM4 (Antlion Cave -- B2F -- top right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Black Squirrel to Flitter CryPro (Antlion Cave -- Save room -- right)
midnight depot
#

Thanks

midnight depot
#

Hi. Let's play axiom verge

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Thanks for laser drill, flamethrower, reverse slicer, ion beam

midnight depot
#

This game is way harder when I'm trying to also slay bloodvelds in Runescape without spending a fortune on prayer potions

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FlitterAV sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Absu - Entrance Shaft)
FlitterAV sent Bomb Data to LlisandurM4 (Absu - Switch Cage)
FlitterAV sent Ribbon to LlisandurFF4 (Absu - Elsenova)

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Ape Escape is next

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FlitterAE sent Item - Progressive Level to EmerassiCP (5-1 Snowy Mammoth Mailbox - Severely Cold Sea (Main))

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Item - Small Key to EmerassiCP (7-1 Sushi Temple Coin - Outside)
FlitterAE sent Orbital Discharge to FlitterAV (2-2 Dark Ruins Coin - Water Basement)
FlitterAE sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (8-2 Specters Factory Coin - RC Car Room)

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Crystal Project is next. I have one check there

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He died at level 5 with base equipment and no skills

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Thanks to Valkyries simply being able to revive once when they die

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Flitter CryPro sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Soiled Den Boss - Bone Thief)

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That's all three games in BK mode

modern ivy
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re-raise ftw lol

modern ivy
tender pelican
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I sent a bunch of stuff. Check your logs. XD

modern ivy
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had gaea stone and triton stone and the tall tall and cap seq passes

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so i got to walk around in tall tall with no mounts at all for a bit!

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not blocked but done enough for now

midnight depot
# modern ivy

Holy shit I can finally train on something other than the single bat spawns

midnight depot
# modern ivy

The address disruptor unlocks a new check finding mechanism. Each enemy I disrupt is a check sent.

midnight depot
#

Hi

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Let's play Axiom Verge

midnight depot
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FlitterAV sent Item - Jidamba Eaclaneya Pass to EmerassiCP (Glitch a Swarmily (Parent))

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Hey you can't just send me a labcoat

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Now I have to check every wall to see if I can cross it

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FlitterAV sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (Eribu - Outside Lower Passcode Room)

midnight depot
#

I'm going to stop here

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[Hint]: FlitterAV's Data Bomb is at Spawning Meadows Shop - Nans Knick Knacks 3 in EmerassiCP's World. (priority)

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[Hint]: FlitterAV's Progressive Drone is at Delende Shop - Fish Hatchery Armor Merchant 3 in EmerassiCP's World. (priority)

tender pelican
#

Now I know why there's an option to start at the elevator hub in Metroid Fusion. Because if you start at the ship you get 2 checks then you wait forever for someone to find the morph ball.

fresh hill
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...I don't remember that option

modern ivy
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hahahaha

modern ivy
midnight depot
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Thanks. A mercury stone doesn't unlock any new checks but is pretty convenient for grinding on super low level enemies

modern ivy
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looks like cry pro is opened up a bit, buying more cap sequoia stuff in shops and visiting delende now

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managed to do some out of logic quintar nest out of logic

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i have no mounts still but i have gaea stone, triton stone, and dione stone

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it's been interesting having to do some of this without them!

tender pelican
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I have bombs and power bombs, but I have no morph ball so I can't use them.

modern ivy
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hey just found a hover nozzle

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my horrible failure at SMS platforming has been somewhat rectified!

midnight depot
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Hi

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Today I'll play Ape Escape

midnight depot
#

[Hint]: FlitterAE's Time Net is at Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 1 in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)

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FlitterAE sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (1-2 Primordial Ooze Mailbox - Camera Tutorial (Main))
FlitterAE sent Item - Draft Shaft Conduit Pass to Flitter CryPro (2-3 Cryptic Relics Mailbox - Back Camera Tutorial (Main Ruins))
FlitterAE sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (5-3 Hot Springs Mailbox - Ice Bridge Ahead (Outside))
FlitterAE sent Floater to LlisandurFF1 (5-3 Hot Springs Coin - Hot Spring)
FlitterAE sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (8-1 City Park Coin - Outside)

tender pelican
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@midnight depot Can you hint morph ball for LlisandurM4, so I at least know who to poke so I can play the game? The normal start is a bit ridiculous. Needs better item placement logic. Next time I'll tell it to start me in the hub area.

midnight depot
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Sure

tender pelican
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I can't even hint it myself because I've only been able to do 2 checks.

midnight depot
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[2025-08-07 15:18:48,774]: Notice (Team #1): [Hint]: LlisandurM4's Morph Ball is at Fabul Chocobo Forest -- grass in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)

tender pelican
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@rare oxide Go get that please. It's an open check from the start.

modern ivy
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looks like i capital jail is out of logic, but that can't stop me because i can't read

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WHALE

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i dunno if that's actually a whale but it is in ffxiv

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jail whale

midnight depot
#

Thanks

modern ivy
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ok that's all the cry pro i can do for now

tender pelican
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It is whale esper.

rare oxide
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ryanffffffff sent Morph Ball to LlisandurM4 (Fabul Chocobo Forest -- grass)

rare oxide
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ryanffffffff sent Job - Weaver to EmerassiCP (Mt. Hobs -- Save area -- rightmost)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Mt. Hobs -- Save area -- center-right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Soiled Den Pass to EmerassiCP (Mt. Hobs -- Save area -- center-left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to EmerassiCP (Fabul -- Throne room -- west pot)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Fabul -- Throne room -- bottom chest)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Quintar Sanctum Pass to Flitter CryPro (Fabul -- Throne room -- middle chest)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Small Key to EmerassiCP (Fabul -- Throne room -- top chest)
ryanffffffff sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (Fabul -- West tower 1F -- bottom chest)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Elevator Part to Flitter CryPro (Fabul -- West tower 1F -- top chest)
ryanffffffff sent City Park Monkey Lamp to FlitterAE (Fabul -- East tower 3F (king's bedroom) -- chest)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Fabul -- East tower 3F (king's bedroom) -- Defend Fabul reward item)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Baron Town -- Inn -- treasury, left)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Baron Town -- Inn -- treasury, right)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Mt. Ordeals Chocobo Forest -- grass)
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ryanffffffff sent Item - Deity Eye to Flitter CryPro (Mt. Ordeals -- 3F ("7th Station") -- center)
tender pelican
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LlisandurM4 sent Item - Special Shoudu Stew to Flitter CryPro (Main Deck -- Operations Ventilation)
LlisandurM4 sent Item - Ancient Reservoir Pass to EmerassiCP (Sector 1 (SRX) -- Lava Lake -- Upper Left Item)
LlisandurM4 sent Spray Nozzle to EmerassiSMS (Sector 1 (SRX) -- Stabilizer Storage)

rare oxide
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ryanmmx2 sent Item - Europa Stone to Flitter CryPro (Defeated Gigantic Mechaniloid CF-0)

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ryanmmx2 sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Defeated Pararoid S-38 #1)
ryanmmx2 sent Item - The Deep Sea Pass to Flitter CryPro (Defeated Pararoid S-38 #2)
tender pelican
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LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Cobblestone Crag Pass to Flitter CryPro (Ancient Cave North Cavern Right)
LlisandurFF6 sent Yoshi to EmerassiSMS (Imperial Camp Central Tent Left)
LlisandurFF6 sent Field Disruptor to FlitterAV (Doma Castle Lower Hall Pot)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - The Chalice of Tar Pass to EmerassiCP (Phantom Train Third Car Left Chest)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Northern Stretch Pass to EmerassiCP (Baren Falls)

midnight depot
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Thanks

midnight depot
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Hi. Let's play Crystal Project

midnight depot
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My cleric was inside a chest

modern ivy
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that was very cruel of someone to lock them in there

midnight depot
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That's enough for now

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I got a lot of progression checks which I did not keep track of!

modern ivy
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have fun in helllllll

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gonna fire up some cry pro and see how it looks

midnight depot
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Thanks

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The labyrinth can be done with zero fights so it's not actually that bad

modern ivy
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ooo got something nice

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another one!

midnight depot
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Thanks, I do really need both!

modern ivy
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oh boy did you jump straight to flute or goldy?

midnight depot
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I had the license already so this should give me gold quintar

modern ivy
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so early!

midnight depot
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Hi. Let's play Crystal Project

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Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Capital Sequoia NPC - Courtyard Chloe)

midnight depot
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Why are some of the checks here Ibek-only?

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You can just fly here from Yamagawa Summit with owl or quintar

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Isn't spawning meadows the starting region?

midnight depot
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That's enough for today

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Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Quintar Sanctum NPC - Silver beneath the shroom)
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Quintar Sanctum NPC - Mushroom bounce Silver)
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Quintar Sanctum Chest - West wall big bounce)
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Quintar Sanctum Chest - West at ground level)

Flitter CryPro sent Item - Lost Penguin to EmerassiCP (Ibek Cave Boss - Possessor)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Shoudu Waterfront Pass to EmerassiCP (Cobblestone Crag Chest - Long jump)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmerassiCP (Quintar Sanctum Chest - In front of the shrine)
Flitter CryPro sent Job - Aegis to EmerassiCP (Quintar Sanctum NPC - Two Toads bestow Princess Toadstool)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Ibek Cave NPC - Goat victory Ibek Bell)
Flitter CryPro sent Job - Samurai to EmerassiCP (Ibek Cave NPC - Silver in the goat digs)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Jojo Sewers Pass to EmerassiCP (Sara Sara Beach East NPC - Silver beheld by Dr Cool Aids)

Flitter CryPro sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Cobblestone Crag Chest - I totally meant to miss that jump)
Flitter CryPro sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Overpass Chest - West of Valkyrie Watchtower)

Flitter CryPro sent Carbunkl to LlisandurFF6 (Sara Sara Beach East NPC - Silver glittering in the sun at Ibek Cave exit 1)
Flitter CryPro sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (The Undercity Chest - South of the Undercity Inn)```
modern ivy
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i'm not sure what region was your starting region in this seed, but we treat the one you got your first region pass for as the starting region

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and thanks for the passes, gonna take a look see through my Crystal Project

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for the sara sara beach east stuff, if you can reach it using owl from nearby it should probably be in logic, that sounds like something we should do another pass on, if it required a fly all the way from yamagawa i'd probably leave it out of logic just to prevent an inexperience player from having to guess that

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i suspect it's the former in this case

midnight depot
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I see

midnight depot
modern ivy
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yeah probably

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a few more Shards to FF1

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oh boy i can reach shoudu now

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but we're saving that little treat for later

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since it's not little at all

midnight depot
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Thanks. Axiom Verge is getting a lot of weapons but not many movement abilities just yet

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Fat beam is a secret really effective weapon. There's four of those and you get one at random per run

modern ivy
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getting only one super good weapon per run is a fun concept

modern ivy
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gonna give shoudu a shot

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sky arena down, time for christmas

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since we're on v0.8.0 this check is currently broken

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it says it has progression, so could you release that one for me?

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ok that's 100 checks or so, time for a break

midnight depot
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Thanks for Data Bomb. That one makes it so easy to glitch a lot of enemies

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[2025-08-11 05:18:09,227]: (Team #1) EmerassiCP sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Shoudu Province NPC - Chloe and Talon sky fishing)

modern ivy
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thanks

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF4 sent Magma Key to ryanffffffff (Cave Eblan -- Monster in a Box)
LlisandurFF4 sent Darkness Crystal to ryanffffffff (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 4)

LlisandurFF4 sent Sting Chameleon Access Codes to ryanmmx (Tower of Bab-il (upper) -- 1F -- right)
LlisandurFF4 sent Arms Upgrade to ryanmmx (Dwarf Castle -- Throne Room -- Luca item)

LlisandurFF4 sent Wire Sponge Access Codes to ryanmmx2 (Upper Bab-il -- Monster in a Box)
LlisandurFF4 sent Speed Burner to ryanmmx2 (Tower of Bab-il (upper) -- B4F -- chest (U bridge))

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LlisandurFF4 sent Quantum Variegator to FlitterAV (Dwarf Castle -- Inn -- pot)
LlisandurFF4 sent Grapple to FlitterAV (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 2)
LlisandurFF4 sent Multi-Disruptor to FlitterAV (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 3)

LlisandurFF4 sent Sky Flyer to FlitterAE (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 3)
LlisandurFF4 sent TV Tower Monkey Lamp (Tank Room) to FlitterAE (Fabul -- West tower 3F (Yang's room) -- Found Yang item)

LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Progressive Luxury Pass to Flitter CryPro (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 4F (through 3F southeast door) -- left)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Eastern Chasm Pass to Flitter CryPro (Sylvan Cave -- House -- bottom)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - The Chalice of Tar Pass to Flitter CryPro (Sylvan Cave -- B3F (northeast area) -- top left)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Salmon Bay Pass to Flitter CryPro (Fabul -- West tower 3F (Yang's room) -- Pan Trade item)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Northern Cave Pass to Flitter CryPro (Old Water-way -- B3F -- southwest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Dog Bone to Flitter CryPro (Old Water-way -- Save room -- hidden chest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Job - Warrior to Flitter CryPro (Baron Castle -- Throne Room -- item)

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LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Cerulean Book to EmerassiCP (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 3F -- bottom)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Red Door Key to EmerassiCP (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 1)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Lake Delende Pass to EmerassiCP (Sylvan Cave -- B2F (east half) -- pit chamber, middle)

modern ivy
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Thanks!

midnight depot
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Hi, let's play Ape Escape

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Still waiting on net, I think

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FlitterAE sent Unicorn to LlisandurFF6 (8-1 City Park Coin - Barrel Room)

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First progression item so far

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[Hint]: FlitterAE's Water Net is at Lunar Subterrane -- B2 (route to altar) -- Altar 1 (Murasame slot) in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)

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Looks like both of my critical items are in Ryan's world

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And Ape Escape is now in BK mode

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Dog Bone to Flitter CryPro (Auction House 20kGP)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Flyer's Crag Pass to Flitter CryPro (Magitek Factory South Bottom Left)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Lost Penguin to Flitter CryPro (Magitek Factory South Secret Room Right)

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LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (Fanatics' Tower Seventh Floor)

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Axiom Verge

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Oh I guess archipelago is down

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Maybe later then

midnight depot
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It's up

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Thanks for remote drone, weapon range, distortion field, projectile size, health, trenchcoat, power node, fat beam, data bomb, grapple

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What the heck I have everything

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Can I just finish the game?

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Wait no

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That's the wrong kind of bomb

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I want the address bomb

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I need the high jump, the drone launch, the red coat too

midnight depot
midnight depot
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FlitterAV's Progressive Coat is at Lunar Subterrane -- B2 (route to altar) -- Altar 1 (Murasame slot) in LlisandurFF4's World. (priority)

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This would make things so much easier, as well as unlock faster navigation, more areas, and is needed to finish the game. It's critical

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FlitterAV's Drone Teleport is at Titan's Tunnel - Major in LlisandurFF1's World. (priority) This is also progression

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I will stop here because everything is slow and confusing

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I went ahead and set my cheese tracker hint priority

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Ape Escape is in BK mode still

modern ivy
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what a fun looking gun

midnight depot
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It's great! Quite a shame it's a secret most players don't see

midnight depot
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Hi. Crystal Project

midnight depot
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That's enough for now

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Flitter CryPro sent Progressive Address Disruptor to FlitterAV (The Deep Sea Chest - Crumbling shrine 2)
Flitter CryPro sent Level 4 Keycard to LlisandurM4 (The Deep Sea Chest - By The Depths chasm SE of Shoudu Province)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Salmon Bay Chest - Cliff diving)
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Poko Poko Desert NPC - Stormy Silver atop ruins)
Flitter CryPro sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Poko Poko Desert Chest - Potion chest to fortify you for jumping puzzle from hell)

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Glad I didn't do more Axiom Verge, the new address disruptor makes things easier

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 sent Rolling Shield to ryanmmx (Earth Cave Vampire Floor (B3) - Incentive)
LlisandurFF1 sent Shotgun Ice to ryanmmx (Sea Shrine Sharknado Floor (B4) - Side Corner 1)

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LlisandurFF4 sent Sonic Slicer to ryanmmx2 (Cave of Summons -- Monster in a Box)
LlisandurFF4 sent Silk Shot to ryanmmx2 (Town of Monsters -- Throne Room -- Levia item)

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LlisandurFF1 sent Progressive Drone to FlitterAV (Sky Fortress Spider (2F) - Incentive)
LlisandurFF1 sent Tethered Charge to FlitterAV (Sky Fortress Provides (3F) - CC's Gambit 3)

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LlisandurFF1 sent Item - Lost Penguin to EmerassiCP (Sky Fortress Provides (3F) - Greed 3)

midnight depot
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Sweet, thanks!

modern ivy
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I played a little cry pro and forgot to have a tracker open

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i think i found your okimoto pass though

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mostly puzzle pieces this time

modern ivy
midnight depot
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Thank you

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Hunter is essential for my lazy "auto-snipe everything and leave" strategy

modern ivy
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lol i like it

modern ivy
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jojo sewers pass

midnight depot
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Thanks. That's very handy

modern ivy
tender pelican
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LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to EmerassiCP (Tritoch)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Mercury Stone to EmerassiCP (Narshe West Mines Right WoR)

tender pelican
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@rare oxide need these to progress:
[Hint]: LlisandurM4's Level 1 Keycard is at Cave Magnes -- B4F -- chest (left of crystal room entrance) in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Darkness Crystal is at Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 5 in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF6's Shadow is at Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 3 in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
and would really like
[Hint]: LlisandurFF1's Tail is at Lunar Subterrane -- B5 (through first interior passage south exit) -- chest in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)

midnight depot
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Good morning

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Ape Escape is still in BK mode

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Let's play Crystal Project

midnight depot
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Llisandur has a hint in Delende. I need the Delende pass for that

midnight depot
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Flitter CryPro sent Item - Room 1 Key to EmerassiCP (Quintar Nest Chest - Jumping puzzle above the donut)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Northern Cave Pass to EmerassiCP (Okimoto N.S. Region Completion)

Flitter CryPro sent Crown to LlisandurFF1 (Okimoto N.S. Crystal - Ninja)
Flitter CryPro sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (Jojo Sewers NPC - Who even wants Stone of Jordan these days?)

Flitter CryPro sent Helmet Upgrade to ryanmmx (Okimoto N.S. Chest - Just kinda in there, its not special)```
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Plus puzzle pieces, shine sprites, crabs

modern ivy
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i had been only reporting prog

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but

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this one seems relevant lol

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cry pro paying out tonight!

midnight depot
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Hi

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Ape Escape is still in BK mode, so let's play Axiom Verge

midnight depot
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Thank you for address disruptor 2, enhanced drone launch, health, damage, weapon size,

midnight depot
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I keep finding out of logic stuff and missing the in logic stuff

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FlitterAV sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Absu - Attic Right Shrine) my first progression

midnight depot
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FlitterAV sent Odin to LlisandurFF6 (Kur - Cliffs Behind Gir-Tab Above Shrine)

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[Hint]: FlitterAV's Progressive Coat is at Lunar Subterrane -- B2 (route to altar) -- Altar 1 (Murasame slot) in LlisandurFF4's World. (priority)

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[Hint]: FlitterAV's Progressive Address Disruptor is at Tower of Zot -- Monster in a Box in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)

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That is enough for now

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[Hint]: FlitterAV's Passcode Tool is at Imperial Base First Row Right in LlisandurFF6's World. (priority)

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I have updated my cheese tracker hints

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@rare oxide is it possible for you to get this? What do you need in order to reach it? FlitterAE's Time Net is at ryanffffffff's Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 1

midnight depot
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Hi

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I'm still waiting on Ryan to find my time net. Is everything all right?

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You have not played for two weeks

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We have ten days left in the month and we're still ~50% done

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[2025-08-20 02:34:17,942]: (Team #1) Flitter CryPro sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (The Deep Sea Chest - Undersea valley S of Sara Sara Beach)

midnight depot
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@rare oxide are you there? If you don't play your games soon I'm going to have to kick you out.

tender pelican
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I keep poking him to play, but we both got sick this last week.

modern ivy
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ooof i got sick af too, get well soon!

tender pelican
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Trying. I did one day of work so far this week! XD

midnight depot
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I see.

rare oxide
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Hey everyone, Iโ€™m really sorry about the lack of activity this month. I screwed up my settings for ff4 which kinda made the whole thing way harder, so I decided to set it aside for a while and let some items pile up to help a little. Then I got very involved with some projects and school, which pushed back my gaming somewhat. Then, right as I was about to pick things up again I got very sick which took me out for a week.

Again, Iโ€™m really sorry about holding everything up. Iโ€™ll try to get this stuff bashed out as fast as I can. -_-

rare oxide
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ryanffffffff sent Legend Sword to LlisandurFF4 (Dwarf Castle -- B1F (Fat Chocobo) -- top pot)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Cell Key to EmerassiCP (Dwarf Castle -- West tower 3F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Dwarf Castle -- East tower 3F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Progressive Level to EmerassiCP (Eblan Castle -- 2F -- east room, bottom-right)
ryanffffffff sent Specter's Factory Monkey Lamp to FlitterAE (Eblan Castle -- 2F -- east room, top)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Tall, Tall Heights Pass to Flitter CryPro (Eblan Castle -- 2F -- west room, top)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Eblan Castle -- East tower 2F -- left side, top chest)
ryanffffffff sent Crabby Beach Monkey Lamp to FlitterAE (Eblan Castle -- East tower 2F -- pot)
ryanffffffff sent Ice Beam to LlisandurM4 (Eblan Castle -- East tower 2F -- right side, bottom chest)
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ryanffffffff sent Raiden to LlisandurFF6 (Eblan Castle -- Monster in a Box 3)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Eblan Castle -- Basement -- left)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Eblan Castle -- Basement -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Eblan Castle -- West tower 2F -- left chest)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Eblan Castle -- West tower 1F -- left)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Eblan Castle -- Monster in a Box 2)
ryanffffffff sent Shiva to LlisandurFF6 (Antlion Cave -- B3F -- Antlion Nest item)
ryanffffffff sent Job - Cleric to EmerassiCP (Watery Pass -- Passage to exit ("B2F") -- left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Shoudu Province Pass to Flitter CryPro (Watery Pass -- B3F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Watery Pass -- B3F -- left)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Watery Pass -- Camp level ("B2F") -- top left)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Watery Pass -- Entrance ("South") -- center)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Babel Quintar to Flitter CryPro (Watery Pass -- Behind waterfall -- left)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Watery Pass -- Entrance ("South") -- rightmost)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Progressive Level to Flitter CryPro (Waterfall -- Lake -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Item - STEM WARD to Flitter CryPro (Waterfall -- B2F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Waterfall -- B2F -- left)
fresh hill
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you know it's a good sign when our mod bots are warning us about possible spam from #1119170161518334004

tender pelican
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Lol.

rare oxide
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ryanffffffff sent Phantom to LlisandurFF6 (Baron Town -- Inn -- item)
ryanffffffff sent Strike Chain to ryanmmx2 (Dwarf Castle -- Throne Room -- Luca item)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Dog Bone to EmerassiCP (Cave Magnes -- B1F -- top right)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Cave Magnes -- B2F -- chest)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Delende Pass to Flitter CryPro (Cave Magnes -- Pit room -- left)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Cave Magnes -- Torch room -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Level 1 Keycard to LlisandurM4 (Cave Magnes -- B4F -- chest (left of crystal room entrance))
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๐Ÿ™ƒ

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ryanffffffff sent Item - Clamshell to EmerassiCP (Tower of Zot -- 2F -- chest)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Tower of Zot -- 5F (through 4F center-left door) -- top)
ryanffffffff sent Progressive Address Disruptor to FlitterAV (Tower of Zot -- Monster in a Box)
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Alright, gonna get some supper, then I'll hit it up again. I'll take on tower of babil next, either get enough levels for float there or turn on random encounters and power level until I get float, then I can do sylph cave.

tender pelican
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LlisandurM4 sent Item - Cobblestone Crag Pass to EmerassiCP (Sector 4 (AQA) -- Waterway)
LlisandurM4 sent Item - Gardeners Key to EmerassiCP (Sector 2 (TRO) -- Lobby Cache)

modern ivy
modern ivy
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back on the cry pro traaaaain

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF6 sent Passcode Tool to FlitterAV (Imperial Base First Row Right)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Northern Stretch Pass to Flitter CryPro (Sealed Gate Entrance)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Digested Head to Flitter CryPro (Sealed Gate Basement 3 Hidden Passage)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Castle Ramparts Pass to Flitter CryPro (Zozo Cafe)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Pyramid Key to EmerassiCP (Sealed Gate Basement 3 Plaza)
LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Salmon Pass Pass to EmerassiCP (Mobliz House Barrel)

rare oxide
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ryanffffffff sent Super Missile to LlisandurM4 (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 3)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 1F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Armored Armadillo Access Codes to ryanmmx (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 4)
ryanffffffff sent Item - The New World Pass to Flitter CryPro (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 1)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Quintar Mausoleum Pass to Flitter CryPro (Lower Bab-il -- Monster in a Box 2)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 8F -- item (Tower Key slot))
ryanffffffff sent Tnt to LlisandurFF1 (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 5F -- item (Super Cannon destruction))
rare oxide
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ryanffffffff sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 4)
ryanffffffff sent Shadow to LlisandurFF6 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 3)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Black Squirrel to EmerassiCP (Sylvan Cave -- B3F (northeast area) -- bottom right)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Sylvan Cave -- B3F (northeast area) -- top right)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Sylvan Cave -- B2F (east half) -- square chamber, top right)
ryanffffffff sent Time Net to FlitterAE (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 1)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 6)
ryanffffffff sent Energy Tank to LlisandurM4 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 2)
ryanffffffff sent Magnet Mine to ryanmmx2 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 7)
ryanffffffff sent Darkness Crystal to LlisandurFF4 (Sylph Cave -- Monster in a Box 5)
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Alright, getting pretty tired. Still don't have a lot of stamina. I'll finish getting ff4 caught up tomorrow, then start on the mega mans. Those shouldn't take very long.

midnight depot
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Thank you for communicating. I think we have just enough time to finish before the end of the month!

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Let's play Ape Escape

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Item - Lost Penguin to EmerassiCP (1-3 Molten Lava Monkey 1 - Scotty)
FlitterAE sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmerassiCP (2-2 Dark Ruins Monkey 11 - Kenny)
FlitterAE sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (2-3 Cryptic Relics Monkey 4 - Pally)

FlitterAE sent Rat Tail to ryanffffffff (2-2 Dark Ruins Monkey 4 - Nuzzy)```
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FlitterAE sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to EmerassiCP (4-1 Crabby Beach Monkey 8 - Puka)

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I will stop here

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I need world keys and water net

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Ice Puzzle Key to EmerassiCP (Lunar Path -- northeast chamber, right)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Crag Demon Horn to EmerassiCP (Lunar Core -- Monster in a Box 3)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (Lunar Subterrane -- B5 (second interior passage) -- chest)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Elevator Part to EmerassiCP (Lunar Subterrane -- Core B1 -- chest)

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LlisandurFF4 sent Baron Key to ryanffffffff (Lunar Path -- Monster in a Box)
LlisandurFF4 sent Legend Sword to ryanffffffff (Lunar Core -- Monster in a Box 7)

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LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Jade Cavern Pass to Flitter CryPro (Cave Bahamut -- B1F -- bottom left)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Proving Meadows Pass to Flitter CryPro (Lunar Core -- Monster in a Box 9)
LlisandurFF4 sent Item - Lost Penguin to Flitter CryPro (Lunar Subterrane -- B7 (middle room) -- Altar 3 (White Spear slot))

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LlisandurFF4 sent Super Hoop to FlitterAE (Lunar Core -- Monster in a Box 8)

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Need these to beat the game. Should be all that's left.
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Rat Tail is at Lunar Subterrane -- B7 (right room) -- Ribbon Left in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Tower Key is at Lunar Subterrane -- B7 (middle room) -- Altar 3 (White Spear slot) in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)
[Hint]: LlisandurFF4's Adamant is at Fabul -- West tower 3F (Yang's room) -- Found Yang item in ryanffffffff's World. (priority)

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[Hint]: LlisandurM4's Level 3 Keycard is at Defeated Bubble Crab in ryanmmx2's World. (priority)

midnight depot
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Nice

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 sent World Key to FlitterAE (Smith)
LlisandurFF1 sent Earth Crystal to ryanffffffff (Astos)

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF6 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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LlisandurFF6 sent Item - Ganymede Stone to EmerassiCP (Phoenix Cave Lower Cavern Cool Lava)
LlisandurFF6 sent Shards to FlitterAV (Serpent Trench Second Branch)

midnight depot
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I don't know what the hell shards are

tender pelican
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Said progression item. I thought it was my FF1 collectible at first. XD

midnight depot
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Oh it's a weapon

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I finished the game like fifteen times but most of the weapons are bad so I never use them

tender pelican
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Lol.

fresh hill
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just RPG things

midnight depot
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It's a metroid with very few RPG elements. It's just that there are too many weapons

fresh hill
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oh those are for AV, not FF1

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weird I don't remember them either

midnight depot
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It's a gun that shoots white shards

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 sent Drone Teleport to FlitterAV (Titan's Tunnel - Major)

midnight depot
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Ooh big

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This allows me to get into the pyramid

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and makes it very fast to travel in wide open rooms

tender pelican
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I'm just waiting on the rod and a last few shards for FF1.

rare oxide
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ryanffffffff sent Item - Okimoto N.S. Pass to EmerassiCP (Tower of Zot -- 6F -- item)
ryanffffffff sent Shine Sprite to EmerassiSMS (Old Water-way -- B1F -- left)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Neptune Stone to Flitter CryPro (Old Water-way -- B2F -- chest)
ryanffffffff sent Infant Metroid to LlisandurM4 (Baron Castle -- East tower 1F -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Spark Mandrill Access Codes to ryanmmx (Baron Castle -- Basement -- Odin item)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Progressive Mount Instrument to EmerassiCP (Baron Castle -- East tower 3F -- left chest)
ryanffffffff sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Baron Castle -- Throne Room -- item)
rare oxide
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ryanffffffff sent Item - North Lookout Token to Flitter CryPro (Land of Monsters -- B1F -- top left, through secret path)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Cave of Summons -- Monster in a Box)
ryanffffffff sent Item - Quintar Reserve Pass to Flitter CryPro (Town of Monsters -- B4F (first area) -- middle left)
ryanffffffff sent Job - Valkyrie to EmerassiCP (Town of Monsters -- B4F (first area) -- right)
ryanffffffff sent Homing Torpedo to ryanmmx (Town of Monsters -- B4F (first area) -- Rat Tail)
ryanffffffff sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Town of Monsters -- Throne Room -- Asura item)
ryanffffffff sent Crystal Snail Access Codes to ryanmmx2 (Town of Monsters -- Throne Room -- Levia item)
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ryanffffffff sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmerassiCP (Dwarf Castle -- B2F (tunnel) -- middle chest)

midnight depot
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Hi

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DnD in 90 mins. Let's play a bit more Ape Escape

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Wait, I have Monkey Madness? I thought it had to be the last level

midnight depot
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FlitterAE sent Canal to LlisandurFF1 (9-1 Monkey Madness Mailbox - The Terror Coaster (Coaster Entry))
FlitterAE sent Item - Skumparadise Pass to Flitter CryPro (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 15 - Raeski)

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FlitterAE found their Victory (9-1 Monkey Madness - Specter)

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FlitterAE (Team #1) has released all remaining items from their world.

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FlitterAE sent Item - Mars Stone to EmerassiCP (7-1 Sushi Temple Monkey 2 - Rocka)
FlitterAE sent Item - Neptune Stone to EmerassiCP (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Mailbox - Guided Pellet Tutorial (Middle Room))
FlitterAE sent Item - Seaside Cliffs Pass to EmerassiCP (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Monkey 10 - Phool)
FlitterAE sent Equipment - Ribbon to EmerassiCP (7-3 Crumbling Castle - Boss)
FlitterAE sent Equipment - Undead Ring to EmerassiCP (7-2 Wabi Sabi Wall Mailbox - Big Cogwheel (Middle Room))
+clamshells, digested head, jigsaw pieces, shine sprites

FlitterAE sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (7-1 Sushi Temple Monkey 8 - Quel Tin)
FlitterAE sent Starlet to LlisandurFF6 (1-1 Fossil Field Monkey 4 - Tray C)
FlitterAE sent Ice Missile to LlisandurM4 (9-1 Monkey Madness Monkey 19 - Wrench)```
modern ivy
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seaside cliffs should let me get alot

modern ivy
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i died so many times in corona mountain wow i really did not like that level!

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sent a few passes and also a screw attack

midnight depot
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Nice

rare oxide
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ryanmmx sent 2 Puzzle Pieces to EmeJigsaw1 (Chill Penguin - Heart Tank)
ryanmmx sent Item - Undersea Crab to EmerassiCP (Armored Armadillo - Heart Tank)
tender pelican
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LlisandurM4 sent Job - Wizard to Flitter CryPro (Sector 5 (ARC) -- Ruined Break Room)

midnight depot
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Nice, thanks

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Crystal Project

midnight depot
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Flitter CryPro sent Job - Shaman to EmerassiCP (Salmon River NPC - Salmon Race 2nd place price)

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Hmmmmmm

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With what you've given me I have the chance to do something very silly

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Flitter CryPro (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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Now I'm at 375/949, or 39.52%, but since we're so near the end of the month, I will just release my remaining checks

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I'm not going to list items I know exist many copies of, like cell keys, jigsaw pieces, but there's probably a few. I also won't list items for finished games:

Flitter CryPro sent Item - Central Lookout Token to EmerassiCP (Shoudu Province Chest - Under the dry kid pit)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Foliage Key to EmerassiCP (Jidamba Tangle Chest - NW foliage)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Callisto Stone to EmerassiCP (Capital Jail NPC - Silver locked in overgrown West Wing hallway)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Babel Quintar to EmerassiCP (Yamagawa M.A. Boss - Sepulchra)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Capital Pipeline Pass to EmerassiCP (The Sequoia Boss - Spirit Cage)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Ibek Cave Pass to EmerassiCP (Beaurior Rock Chest - B3 balcony above the lava)
Flitter CryPro sent Item - Quintar Mausoleum Pass to EmerassiCP (Salmon River Region Completion)

Flitter CryPro sent Missile Data to LlisandurM4 (Capital Sequoia NPC - Plunder the Luxury storage and skip town to meet a very slow thief)
Flitter CryPro sent Plasma Beam to LlisandurM4 (Underpass Chest - Tall Tall Heights spiky tunnel to Salmon River 2)
Flitter CryPro sent Infant Metroid to LlisandurM4 (Capital Jail Chest - Sneaky chest in Dark Wing)

Flitter CryPro sent Luca Key to ryanffffffff (Capital Jail Chest - South Wing jail cell across from busted wall)
Flitter CryPro sent Adamant to ryanffffffff (Yamagawa M.A. Chest - Dead end)
Flitter CryPro sent Overdrive Ostrich Access Codes to ryanmmx2 (Skumparadise Chest - Lava-loving shrooms)
Flitter CryPro sent Spin Wheel to ryanmmx2 (Capital Jail Chest - Locked in broken East Wing jail cell)```
tender pelican
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Oh good, with missile data I can finally kill bosses. XD

midnight depot
modern ivy
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alright that chained into my CryPro finishing

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i'll need 12 more puzzle pieces and then i can finish my jigsaw

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grats on finishing your cry pro

midnight depot
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Nice!

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Thanks

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF1 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

modern ivy
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grats!

rare oxide
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ryanmmx2 sent Level 3 Keycard to LlisandurM4 (Defeated Bubble Crab)
rare oxide
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FF4 complete. All checks have been released.

midnight depot
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Well done

modern ivy
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nice, just enough pieces for jigsawwwww

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that's also done now

tender pelican
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LlisandurFF4 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

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LlisandurFF4 sent Electric Spark to ryanmmx (Tower of Bab-il (lower) -- 5F -- item (Super Cannon destruction))
LlisandurFF4 sent Arms Upgrade to ryanmmx (Tower of Zot -- 6F -- item)
LlisandurFF4 sent Storm Tornado to ryanmmx (Cave Magnes -- Crystal Room -- item)

midnight depot
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Nice. What do we have left?

tender pelican
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About to do Metroid 4 then I'll be done.

midnight depot
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Metroid Fusion, Axiom Verge and Mega Mans

tender pelican
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Hm, may need charge beam.
[Hint]: LlisandurM4's Charge Beam is at Eribu - Wheelchair Room in FlitterAV's World. (priority)

midnight depot
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I can get this with the ability to swap places with my drone

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I should have it. I'd get it right now but I'm very sleepy

tender pelican
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Yup, can't hurt SA-X without the charge beam. XD

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Ok, whenever you get that I can beat it.

rare oxide
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MMX done!

midnight depot
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Hi

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Let's play Axiom Verge

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Thank you for address bomb, passcode tool, red coat (!), drone teleport, axiom disruptor, voranj, kilver, sudran key, and various upgrades

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The game is finally fun to navigate

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FlitterAV sent Charge Beam to LlisandurM4 (Eribu - Wheelchair Room)

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Axiom Verge has an infinite height bug where you can combine a drill with drone launch and drone teleport to gain height, but it's annoying to do because it requires precise timing and you can't mash for it

rare oxide
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Alright, mmx2 complete!

midnight depot
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I am also done

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That just leaves Metroid Fusion!

tender pelican
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LlisandurM4 (Team #1) has completed their goal.

midnight depot
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Nice, well done!

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That's every game, just ahead of the end of the month

modern ivy
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grats all!

midnight depot
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Next month, I will drop Axiom Verge

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It's a lot more fun in solo randomizer than it is in multiworld

rare oxide
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Yeah I'm gonna have to drop mega man until I get my controller fixed. Playing without the back paddles is hell.

midnight depot
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Oh, what do you normally use the back paddles for?

rare oxide
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Dashing.

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Makes it real easy to do dash jumps. Without it I have to claw my hand which hurt after a while. On snes I used rb but it's a little akward on an xbox controller

midnight depot
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Makes sense

midnight depot
#

Thank you for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago game for August 2025. This month we've had 13 games, 29 spheres, and 4941 locations. The players in the playthrough file, listed from last to first receiving an item, are @tender pelican with FF1, @rare oxide with MMX2, @modern ivy with Crystal Project, then with Super Mario Sunshine, me with Ape Escape and Crystal Project, Llisandur with FF4 and FF6, Ryan with MMX, Llisandur with Metroid fusion, Ryan with FF4, Emerassi with Jigsaw, and my Axiom Verge was the earliest in sphere 7. (Drone teleport was indeed the last check I needed)
Included are the game log, spoiler log, yaml files and output files. The game link was at https://archipelago.gg/room/1rBi5lNKTFKlbpHPGMSSbg

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Hello, @here! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the **the end of September 2025 **. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run (or browse the archipelago discord server for unsupported games!), then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. Let's try to make sure that you like the game you picked and can complete it by the end of the month!
The game will start Tuesday, September 2nd or whenever everyone interested is ready.

In order to join, I will need the YAML files for whatever games you want to play. Please make sure you only join with a manageable workload, and the ability to play at least a little every four or so days.

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For next month Ape Escape actually has a full door randomizer in the works. I hope it'll be ready to try out in time

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@fierce vale there's an archipelago for the placid duck simulator

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In addition to Ape Escape I'll play Crystal Project, and one of the following: Celeste Open World, Kirby Air Ride, Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of the Sky, Ocarina of Time

fierce vale
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i might take part in this one with something else, but i'll learn if i have time monday

midnight depot
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Got it

cold valve
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I'll play my usuals but i can send yamls and stuff until tomorrow

midnight depot
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Absolutely. That's why there's leeway

rare oxide
modern ivy
midnight depot
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Bah

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Ape Escape released and retracted the room rando feature

fresh hill
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oh right I keep forgetting to say

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I'm definitely skipping September too

modern ivy
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huh, removing a feature, i wonder if it didn't work very well

fresh hill
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partly because Silksong but also because I still have other stuff I want to get done and it's increasingly seeming like I simply do not have the energy to both develop and play randomizers at the same time

midnight depot
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Understood. Hope to see you next game though

midnight depot
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Lamps wouldn't work, monkeys would be inaccessible

modern ivy
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ah yeah that's troublesome

fresh hill
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"carry over" between what exactly?

midnight depot
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Looks like the level geometry and graphics were changed properly but things like monkeys still acted as if the level was not shuffled

fresh hill
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wow, that sounds like something that should've become clear in testing right away

midnight depot
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The way the game is modded, it's done entirely via memory editing, so it may have worked in testing due to the specific setup

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Either way, I'm going to stick with the version that lacks the new feature for this month

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For now I'm going to test the yamls and apworlds everyone gave me. For jigsaw I'll use the 0.8.0 apworld. Let me know if you want a different one. 0.9.0 for Crystal project.

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For ff4 I'm going to stick with the same apworld

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Yep, generates fine

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I'm waiting on YAMLs from Dr. Romulus, Llisandur and Chip if they're joining, and also my own

midnight depot
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(instead of directly starting you in a random room, they start you in the normal first room then warp you. This makes it so everything works, at the cost of a janky-looking double loading screen)

fierce vale
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paissapretty i realised silksong and silent hill are releasing within the window so i will not be joining

midnight depot
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Wow okay

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Do you think they'll release a Silksong archipelago before Silksong is out

fresh hill
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definitely not rdsnrk

tender pelican
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I'll be joining but I need to work out what I'm doing.

midnight depot
fresh hill
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oh my response was serious too

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someone made a Silksong thread super early so I've been watching that to see comments from e.g. the HK AP maintainers, and they've basically said we need to wait for the game to come out before we can even give estimates; atm no one's even sure if this is Unity or not, if it is Unity does it use IL2CPP, etc

modern ivy
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yeah neither the mod side or the apworld side could be done without access to the game so it would require the game devs to do it themselves to have it available on release

fresh hill
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it's also, frankly, a terrible idea to start developing a mod as complex as a randomizer extremely close to release, just because the devs are likely to patch things that affect your mod code and/or your rando logic (especially if you want glitches and speed tech to be in logic)

modern ivy
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oh yeah for sure

fresh hill
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even my OW rando has been broken by both of the patches that came out after the rando did, despite the rando coming multiple years after release, and those being tiny bugfix patches

modern ivy
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this is one of the benefits of not using bepin/etc

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we literally change the client to be exactly what what we want so we're immune to future patches

fresh hill
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you mean... automated downpatching?

modern ivy
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yeah we just use bsdiff so we could change notepad.exe into the file we wanted if we felt like it

fresh hill
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ah ok

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(well that particular diff would presumably involve "distributing copyrighted material", but yeah I get the idea)

modern ivy
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it probably would but i really wouldn't care

fresh hill
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I don't think that has anything to do with bepinex per se

modern ivy
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yeah i just mean that sortof thing is a layer on top of the base game

fresh hill
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at least with OW and 9S, my mod is trying to coexist with the rest of the modding community to some extent, and broadly speaking everyone targets the latest patch (possibly more patches, but rarely only an older patch), so even if I wanted to do automated downpatching it wouldn't be an option in practice

modern ivy
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which could change on you

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yeah that makes sense

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that's our big loss from not being on latest version of crypro either

fresh hill
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plus one of those breaking OW changes broke all of the mods because a piece of mod infra happened to depend on something that everyone agrees in retrospect it should not have

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idiot ๐Ÿฎ โ€” 7/21/25, 13:50
talk about how mobius SABOTAGED the modding community by removing the load-bearing menu button in one of their patches

modern ivy
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that's pretty funny

fresh hill
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it was so funny

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partly because the mod infra people are active enough it got fixed in ~2 days

modern ivy
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pretty brisk

tender pelican
midnight depot
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Thanks

cold valve
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oh right

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i've been way too out of it all day, i forgot about my yamls

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i'll put those together when i wake up tomorrow

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i think i need to update archipelago versions, but my options are gonna be the same

midnight depot
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It's time to fix up my Ape Escape YAML

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This version has a feature where I can get rid of useless filler items and keep things at least useful

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Default distribution:

   25 Energy Chips: 4
    3 Explosive Pellets: 3
    3 Guided Pellets: 3
    5 Cookies: 3
    5 Energy Chips: 14
    Cookie: 16
    Energy Chip: 31
    Explosive Pellet: 9
    Guided Pellet: 9
    Jacket: 7
    Nothing: 0
    Rainbow Cookie: 6```
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I'm going to remove Energy Chip, 5 Energy Chips, 25 Energy Chips, Rainbow Cookie, Cookie, Explosive Pellet, Guided Pellet, and distribute their removed weight across all of the other results.

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Maybe something like this:

    25 Energy Chips: 0
    3 Explosive Pellets: 12
    3 Guided Pellets: 12
    5 Cookies: 19
    5 Energy Chips: 0
    Cookie: 0
    Energy Chip: 0
    Explosive Pellet: 0
    Guided Pellet: 0
    Jacket: 7
    Nothing: 0
    Rainbow Cookie: 0
midnight depot
# cold valve
  File "worlds\__init__.py", line 81, in load
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 999, in exec_module
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 488, in _call_with_frames_removed
  File "worlds\tunic\__init__.py", line 14, in <module>
ImportError: cannot import name 'LogicRules' from 'worlds.tunic.options' (C:\ProgramData\Archipelago\custom_worlds\tunic.apworld\tunic\options.py)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "worlds\__init__.py", line 81, in load
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap_external>", line 999, in exec_module
  File "<frozen importlib._bootstrap>", line 488, in _call_with_frames_removed
  File "worlds\tunic\__init__.py", line 14, in <module>
ImportError: cannot import name 'LogicRules' from 'worlds.tunic.options' (C:\ProgramData\Archipelago\custom_worlds\tunic.apworld\tunic\options.py)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "Generate.py", line 216, in main
  File "Generate.py", line 216, in <genexpr>
  File "Generate.py", line 540, in roll_settings
  File "Generate.py", line 466, in handle_option
  File "worlds\ladx\Options.py", line 454, in verify
Exception: LADX Sprite 'false' not found. Possible sprites are: ['Link', 'Bowwow', 'Bunny', 'Luigi', 'Mario', 'Matty_LA', 'Richard', 'Tarin']

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "__startup__.py", line 121, in run
  File "console.py", line 25, in run
  File "Generate.py", line 586, in <module>
  File "Generate.py", line 239, in main
ValueError: File La DxRomulus.yaml is invalid. Please fix your yaml.
Press enter to close.```
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I fixed it by replacing false with Link. Let me know if you want to change anything

midnight depot
#

Now, Explorers of the Sky wants me to use Bizhawk 2.10

midnight depot
#
Exception in <bound method MZMWorld.create_items of <worlds.mzm.MZMWorld object at 0x000002069D1FBAA0>> for player 10, named LlisandurM1ZM.
settings.py:197: UserWarning: TrackerSettings.player_files_path assigned from incompatible type NoneType
Exception ignored in atexit callback: <function Settings.__init__.<locals>.autosave at 0x0000020692D396C0>
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "settings.py", line 819, in autosave
  File "settings.py", line 835, in save
  File "settings.py", line 854, in dump
  File "settings.py", line 757, in __getattribute__
AttributeError: module 'worlds.tunic' has no attribute 'TunicWorld'
Press enter to close.```
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Hmm

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Why does Metroid Zero Mission cause Tunic to throw an error?

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Oh, apparently progression_deprioritized is new. Has there been a new archipelago version?

modern ivy
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ah yeah they added that in 0.6.3

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for the most part there wasn't much interesting in that version imo

midnight depot
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All right, I'll get 0.6.3 then

fresh hill
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dang, someone added the flag without doing the backcompat trick

midnight depot
fresh hill
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but did you install the installer

midnight depot
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I don't have a witty followup to this one

modern ivy
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lol

midnight depot
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Okay. Pokemon Mystery Dungeon works like a charm

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They even added all sorts of features to it like cutscene skips and a warp system

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Next I want to double check my crystal project settings

midnight depot
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Oh, in order to minimize the amount of "progression" checks that are actually useless, I'm going to make all of my ores local

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That's all the changes I wanted to make, and I have everyone's YAMLs working. I'm going to start the game up tomorrow night

midnight depot
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#1311067377441706115 message

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Anybody wanna do a six month archipelago

modern ivy
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six month wow you'd have to put so many games in that to make it take that long!

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oh nvm its runescape it all makes sense now

midnight depot
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Hi

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It is time

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Ixrec and Chip expressed interest but decided not to join. That is everyone accounted for.

modern ivy
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looks good to me

midnight depot
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All right, let's generate and start

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Apparently ore is not a group

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The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "__startup__.py", line 121, in run
  File "console.py", line 25, in run
  File "Generate.py", line 586, in <module>
  File "Generate.py", line 239, in main
ValueError: File Flitter Crystal Project.yaml is invalid. Please fix your yaml.```
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But the tracker says it is

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I fixed it

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It was Ore instead of ore

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I'm going to update the pins

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I think we're ready. @cold valve, @modern ivy, @tender pelican, @rare oxide, the game is on!

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Let's play Ape Escape since it's easiest to start up and has a few checks guaranteed

cold valve
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yey

midnight depot
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Hmm, my tracker is broken

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Reporting the wrong level

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Oh it's because this situation should never happen

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This level is postgame

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Okay, despite the bug, the game should be finishable so we're not doing over

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However, the game is in BK mode

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Crystal Project next

midnight depot
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That was definitely worth it.

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[2025-09-03 00:02:13,020]: (Team #1) FlitterCryPro sent Progressive Sword to La DxRomulus (Soiled Den NPC - Dog Bone among the bones and flowers)

modern ivy
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wow nice early sword

midnight depot
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Infant Metroid for Llisandur M4, Dervish for me