Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer | Manechat | Page 47

lament tusk Aug 25, 2024, 11:27 AM

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i think it did atleast

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yey it worked! im playing a randomised paper mario

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tootk me a while to figure everything out but it wasnt hard

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now i need to work out my launch process for the game

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oh, i need to do that somewhat annoying process every time i launch
ok, not the end of the world

lament tusk Aug 25, 2024, 11:54 AM

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alright, heres my yaml for paper mario
i think that should make for a fun game, i mostly copied arti's settings

📎 Papermegario.txt

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 12:00 PM

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Thanks. Good luck

fresh hill Aug 25, 2024, 1:06 PM

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huh... for only 100 locations and a half dozen logic options that don't affect region structure, that is incredibly slow lol

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 1:10 PM

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Keep in mind I have a 6700k and had Hollow Knight running in the background

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So the numbers are mostly valid when compared to each other, not as absolute times

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I swear each time I look at this number it gets two more processes

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Do I have a fork bomb running

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Twenty of them were Microsoft Edge (I have not opened Edge in years)

tender pelican Aug 25, 2024, 5:09 PM

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📎 LlisandurFF1_8F422074_BTTAHKKG.yaml 📎 LlisandurFox.yaml 📎 LlisandurLADX.yaml 📎 LlisandurMQ.yaml

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 5:09 PM

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Thanks

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This leaves Dr. Romulus, yay899

fresh hill Aug 25, 2024, 5:10 PM

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and with Rom delaying to tuesday, there's a chance I can finish my next mod update before we start...

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 5:11 PM

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Yeah we're starting Tuesday instead of Monday, or Wednesday if we get delayed

tender pelican Aug 25, 2024, 5:22 PM

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Tunic randomizer download said this is a more up to date apworld than is on the Archipelago website. Maybe not be needed.

📎 tunic.apworld

fresh hill Aug 25, 2024, 5:24 PM

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oh, I'm also doing Tunic so we should get clear on that

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I thought they were only putting out apworlds for things like grass rando which I'm not doing

tender pelican Aug 25, 2024, 5:26 PM

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"Shops now require a sword in logic for money grinding
This change is present in the single player randomizer and in the tunic.apworld file in this release, but is not currently present if generating a game on the Archipelago website"

fresh hill Aug 25, 2024, 5:27 PM

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ah that change

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fair enough, can't hurt to include that

tender pelican Aug 25, 2024, 5:28 PM

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I dunno about anything. I'm just setting it up for the first time. :P

fresh hill Aug 25, 2024, 5:28 PM

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yeah I remember that change happening but it feels so long ago

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plus it's not as funny as them having to debug performance issues caused by their own twisted desire to make grass rando a thing

tender pelican Aug 25, 2024, 5:29 PM

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Lol.

sage dawn Aug 25, 2024, 5:31 PM

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Grass rando is funny tho

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@midnight depot Here's my config

📎 yaypedestalseed.yaml

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 5:32 PM

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Thanks!

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Ah, it's a suffering seed

sage dawn Aug 25, 2024, 5:33 PM

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Indeed

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I felt like suffering this month

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 5:33 PM

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At least dark rooms are set to torches

fresh hill Aug 25, 2024, 5:33 PM

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~~but there's no dragon coins~~

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 5:33 PM

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The hardest part of getting back from inverted was that I couldn't navigate the dark room

sage dawn Aug 25, 2024, 5:34 PM

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Yeah I'm not good enough to do them blind

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Oh god I did SMW with randomized dragon coins once and it was hell

fresh hill Aug 25, 2024, 5:34 PM

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I remember rdsnrk

sage dawn Aug 25, 2024, 5:35 PM

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I'm glad I'm not the only one who does ._.

tender pelican Aug 25, 2024, 5:38 PM

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Ok, Tunic randomizer working on Steam Deck. That was not hard to set up. The instructions were trying to make it harder than it was.

wet field Aug 25, 2024, 7:15 PM

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@midnight depot Here's my yam 🇱

📎 kroot_loves_underscores.yaml

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 7:34 PM

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I forgot about you!

lament tusk Aug 25, 2024, 7:39 PM

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sorry kratta we started the game 3 days ago, its too late to join now

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 8:12 PM

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Okay, let's do a quick check before I go to bed

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Chip is in. I'm in. Ixrec is in. Kratta is in, Llisandur is in and I updated Tunic. Meganought is in, yay899 is in.

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Artiks said no.

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This leaves Dr. Romulus

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And the game does not run into issues while generating. Crosscode's mod developer got back to me and it turns out a setting I used was deprecated but they forgot to document it

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Kratta's weird file doesn't result in generation errors

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Wait

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I have 15 YAMLs

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Oh Meganought's is just a text file, not a YAML

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@lament tusk your name in the YAML is JKB. Would you like me to change it for you?

lament tusk Aug 25, 2024, 8:19 PM

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oh i thought i did, yes please

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 8:19 PM

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We ran into the same issue and Artiks was JKB because that's the default

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What do you want it to be?

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This is the file you gave me. Make sure it's to your liking

📎 Papermegario.YAML

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I also noticed the YAML is for archipelago version 0.4.1

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There may be a newer one with more settings

wet field Aug 25, 2024, 8:51 PM

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midnight depot Kratta's weird file doesn't result in generation errors

This is good

lament tusk Aug 25, 2024, 9:23 PM

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midnight depot What do you want it to be?

the name of the file please

lament tusk Aug 25, 2024, 9:23 PM

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midnight depot There may be a newer one with more settings

there isnt

midnight depot Aug 25, 2024, 9:31 PM

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Got it

cold valve Aug 25, 2024, 11:47 PM

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midnight depot This leaves Dr. Romulus

I would just use the old one, but there are settings I want to tweak, and I'll need to be back home to do it

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Oops sorry for ping

midnight depot Aug 26, 2024, 7:48 AM

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Don't worry about it

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 8:55 AM

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Hi

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Happy Tuesday

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 8:57 AM

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hi tuesday

fierce vale Aug 27, 2024, 9:40 AM

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celebrate tuesday mentioned

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 11:09 AM

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its chewsday innit?

fierce vale Aug 27, 2024, 1:43 PM

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twicrazy hmm, welp, i sure hope the empowered bosses arent important for the randomiser because ouch ow owie

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 1:44 PM

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What empowered bosses?

fierce vale Aug 27, 2024, 1:44 PM

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dumbtiktok i found a room where all the bosses exist in empowered versions

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dumbtiktok i tried fighting 3 and got steam rolled

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in a zone called something along the lines of ||the forst of recollection||

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 1:45 PM

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In Rusted Moss

fierce vale Aug 27, 2024, 1:45 PM

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yeag

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 1:46 PM

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Oh Ixrec didn't exclude them so no

fierce vale Aug 27, 2024, 1:46 PM

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mewGiggle i couldn't find anything about them on google so i'm just assuming they dont drop anything for my sanity

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 2:11 PM

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haven't heard of any of this

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is this the DLC area? I couldn't even get in there, and the AP rando doesn't include any of it yet

fierce vale Aug 27, 2024, 3:02 PM

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dumbtiktok i have no idea

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clicked on the trailer thingy, and i think its 1 of the new areas yeah

cold valve Aug 27, 2024, 7:42 PM

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wew, still in con recovery mode. gonna go get food then i'll fix up my YAML. sorry to keep y'all waiting

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 7:46 PM

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Don't worry about it. We're here to play together

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Meanwhile, let's make sure everything else is ready

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Fifteen files in total. Made sure that apworlds are all up to date including Tunic

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Renamed Meganought's Paper Mario player name so it's not JKB

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Set up Crosscode to test settings the dev wanted feedback on

cold valve Aug 27, 2024, 8:28 PM

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@midnight depot here is my file! i made all my actual junk items local and everything else external, and it successfully generates a game.

📎 La_DxRomulus.yaml

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 8:28 PM

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Nice work!

cold valve Aug 27, 2024, 8:29 PM

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i got tired of people sending me rupees lol

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assuming you steal from the store you only need like 500

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 8:30 PM

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Let's generate a game and see if we get any problems

cold valve Aug 27, 2024, 8:31 PM

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oh i also pre-hinted the feather

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and the 2 superfluous key rooms in level 3, knowing if i need to go in those or not drastically changed the length of the dungeon in real time spent becuase i have to wait for additional keys from other players or not

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 8:32 PM

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Ah

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My OoT was too complicated

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For Meganought:

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It's generating anyway but may ignore these settings

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 8:45 PM

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is the Tunic error because there’s one in both lib/worlds and custom_worlds/?

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 8:46 PM

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Probably

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Playthrough

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The longest part of generation by far

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Thanks, OoT

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[root at 2024-08-28 00:04:51,620]: Done. Enjoy. Total Time: 1841.7758653999772

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Wow!

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 9:05 PM

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how long does it usually take

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 9:06 PM

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A quarter of an hour tops

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Less if there's only one copy of OoT

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The game is up https://archipelago.gg/room/-fZkdK9uR26Zu7RRsZQnbQ

Archipelago

Multiworld -fZkdK9uR26Zu7RRsZQnbQ

16 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 54914

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The players are @sage dawn, @lament tusk, @tender pelican, @cold valve, @wet field, @fresh hill, @midnight depot and @fierce vale. Have fun, and let me know if I got anything wrong!

fierce vale Aug 27, 2024, 9:09 PM

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paissapretty i am unlikely to play for at least 24, possibly 48 so i hope noone has anything critical early

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mewGiggle

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 9:09 PM

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I'll try to do one item in each of my worlds to double-check it all works

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 9:09 PM

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Pin updated

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 9:09 PM

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midnight depot For Meganought:

the only one of those i cared about was shufflestarbeam and that just means i get that games equivalent of light arrows at the end of the game like normal, so no biggie really

cold valve Aug 27, 2024, 9:10 PM

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La DxRomulus sent Song of Storms to krüt (Boots Pit (Kanalet Castle))

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 9:10 PM

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awesome first check lol

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 9:11 PM

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For people who randomized their settings, here's what they were shuffled into:

📎 SPOILER_message.txt

cold valve Aug 27, 2024, 9:11 PM

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here are my 3 pre-filled hints

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 9:12 PM

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wow double progression in my first slot for doing literally nothing

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 9:12 PM

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cold valve here are my 3 pre-filled hints

star peice is my gold skull s dont worry too much about that unless i need all of them for whatever reason

cold valve Aug 27, 2024, 9:12 PM

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i am BK'd already but i just wanted to make sure the settings look good. also a shovel start, interesting

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great, i don't have to go in either of those, yay! that means i need fewer key cavern keys

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 9:20 PM

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it feels like years since I last played Hollow Knight, ~~I hardly recognize the bug any more~~

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 9:20 PM

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Meow

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Hollow Knight needs a riposte mod

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 9:25 PM

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pm seems to be working fine i think

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 9:27 PM

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oh right, ER means it might take a minute to find a test item in Tunic

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ah there we go

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ok that's 1 item in each of my slots

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 9:28 PM

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ok yeah PM is working
unfortunatly all non PM items are just mystery boxes marked as "off world item" so thats not great, but i can deal, just means i gotta grab everything i can i guess

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 9:32 PM

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my first session will be Tunic because that's the game I enabled ER for, so learning some of my entrance mappings early will be useful when we get to the hinting phase

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 9:35 PM

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hmm, i may already be BK mode. i started with 100 coins and bought every item i could, but i cant get out of toad town to grind for moe

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wait
i have hammer? i thought i turned that off

tender pelican Aug 27, 2024, 9:36 PM

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I have a bright magenta fox with green scarf and red tunic. XD

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 9:37 PM

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wow, early rightslash for flitter

midnight depot Aug 27, 2024, 9:37 PM

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Handy

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 9:38 PM

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my fox doesn't even have a stick yet

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 9:38 PM

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huh, guess i didnt. i wasnt able to hammer when i tested with this exact yaml tho
weird

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ah ok... every star reward is an "off world item"
i dont know which is which
so i may beed every star piece

tender pelican Aug 27, 2024, 9:47 PM

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Ack, my colors are randomizing every entrance.

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 9:47 PM

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there's options to fix it on a specific color if you'd prefer

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unless you're playing on glitch logic I can probably ignore this

tender pelican Aug 27, 2024, 9:49 PM

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Probably.

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 9:59 PM

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I was expecting to get BK'd a lot sooner with zero items

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as dumb as it was to keep suicide running into ziggurat itemless, Charm Notch, King's Brand, Monarch Wings, Progressive Wallet and Tram Pass certainly made it worthwhile

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ok that's enough for one night

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I think I'd like to receive a weapon before clearing half the game ppenk

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 10:19 PM

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god what im doing right now is grinding for money/exp, the only enemy i can kill is a single dual goomba encounter in the sewers
i get 3-4 coins per battle, but im left at under half health and need to walk all the way back to the inn

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not hard, just slow

tender pelican Aug 27, 2024, 10:21 PM

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LlisandurFox sent Feather to La DxRomulus (Overworld - [West] Chest Behind Moss Wall)

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 10:21 PM

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of course the moment i say its not hard, i manage to fuck it up and die

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again

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flutterwaaaugh

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 10:25 PM

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dw, I died 10-15 times getting all those items

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geez FlitterHK is loaded

lament tusk Aug 27, 2024, 10:25 PM

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im just dying to enemies that normally shouldnt beat me, im just fucking it up horribly

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oh wow, a free sleepy sheep? awesome, thats gonna brea great against one of the blocking enemies

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ok im done for today
dying 3 times kinda sucks
i hope someone can find me a badge of any kind, that would help a lot

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 10:31 PM

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welp, llisandur got a stick before I did

tender pelican Aug 27, 2024, 10:35 PM

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Lol.

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It was at the old house key location. It was a pain to get it before the green guard killed me.

fresh hill Aug 27, 2024, 10:45 PM

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oh you found my RM grapple, I completely missed that

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I'd better play RM tomorrow before that gets any more open

sage dawn Aug 28, 2024, 12:54 AM

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Palette rando might have been a mistake

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 12:55 AM

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It is always a mistake

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The only game where alternative palettes look good is Crypt of the Necrodancer

wet field Aug 28, 2024, 12:57 AM

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sage dawn Palette rando might have been a mistake

Think of it as playing on a higher psychological difficulty

tender pelican Aug 28, 2024, 12:57 AM

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I get random character colors within reason, but random menu colors is too far.

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 12:58 AM

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A woman ate an alternative alttp color scheme. This is what happened to her. (230k views)

sage dawn Aug 28, 2024, 1:30 AM

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LOL

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Also wow my early game is loaded.

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I cleared out most of what I could but I'm taking a break. The rest is a single check in skull woods but my controller disconnected, and a bunch of shops I don't have rupees for

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Emulator I'm using doesn't like to pick up my controller unless I restart the entire emulator

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 1:32 AM

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sounds like the whole multi world is frontloaded this month

sage dawn Aug 28, 2024, 1:32 AM

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For real

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I mean my stuff isn't frontloaded, but I got a lot of progression for other people

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yaypedestalseed sent Progressive Sword to La DxRomulus (Hype Cave - Generous Guy)
yaypedestalseed sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to La DxRomulus (Link's House)
yaypedestalseed sent Queen's_Station_Stag to FlitterHK (Hype Cave - Middle Left)
yaypedestalseed sent Weaversong to FlitterHK (Hype Cave - Middle Right)
yaypedestalseed sent Shopkeeper's_Key to ChipKnight (Hype Cave - Top)
yaypedestalseed sent Boss_Essence-No_Eyes to Ixbug (Stumpy)
yaypedestalseed sent Right_Mothwing_Cloak to FlitterHK (C-Shaped House)
yaypedestalseed sent Left_Mothwing_Cloak to ChipKnight (Brewery)yaypedestalseed sent Thorns_of_Agony to FlitterHK (Skull Woods - Pinball Room)```

tender pelican Aug 28, 2024, 1:45 AM

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FF1. I start with 4 weapons. The randomized classes can't use two of them.

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 1:46 AM

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The meta start in ff2 is you take off all weapons and punch enemies to level up

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Then put on two shields to level up defense

tender pelican Aug 28, 2024, 1:49 AM

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Hm, level 1 holy. Now if only I had someone who could cast it. XD

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Well, this is seed is off to a great start. No weapons becasue I can't afford them, hard enemies in the temple of fiends, and all the chests I can get from there are trapped. But I did get a ship from the king first thing instead of a bridge.

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 11:17 AM

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no items, but i tried the dojo and forgot how incredibly easy the first fight is lol, the first enemy literally never fought at all lol
only gave me a life shroom tho
it did give me enough exp to level tho, so now i have a hp buffer. id've gotten fp or bp but i dont have any badges to equip or use, so no point really

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i just realsied i could very easilly cheat early game by buying items, getting the check, then quitting without saving
but i wont unless i get stuck, because that doesnt feel fun for me

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tho i do feel very close to that point rn

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 11:42 AM

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yeah, a lot of AP games end up with an exploit like that because their save system wasn't designed for this

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when I play Pseudoregalia I try to make a point of saving after using each key so I don't accidentally dupe them

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 11:45 AM

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I don't savescum in OoT because then I'd have to get the missing checks later if I want my tracker to look nice

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 11:46 AM

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oh right, the one(?) AP game where the tracker syncs to the game instead of the AP server

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 11:48 AM

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There are OoT trackers that sync to the AP server but I use this one because I prefer syncing to the game

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Hollow Knight's in-game tracker is like that too

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 11:53 AM

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hm, does HK autosave enough that the difference never comes up?

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 11:55 AM

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I don't know what you mean

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 11:55 AM

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I mean I don't think I've ever run into a situation where dying or quitting deleted some of my progress in HK

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maybe if I intentionally quit and reloaded the game like speedrunners do I'd find one

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but if I die nothing gets "undone", there's just a shade with your geo

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 11:57 AM

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Oh yeah the game tells you when it autosaves but it autosaves often enough that save scumming is a lot harder

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 11:57 AM

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you certainly don't accidentally duplicate small keys in that game

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 11:58 AM

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In steel soul mode you can save your run from being deleted with save scumming

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I think you can save scum the flower quest too

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 11:59 AM

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iirc you can also benchwarp the flower

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 12:00 PM

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Yeah but at that point I could just cheat

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 12:00 PM

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yeah, if an important item lands there I'll try to do it legit

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 12:00 PM

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When buying from certain shops you can buy an item and alt+F4 before exiting the shop

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 12:00 PM

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I've still never done the flower quest as intended

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iirc last time it was a filler item

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 12:01 PM

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It's not as bad as it seems if you take your time and clear a path

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 12:01 PM

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yeah, even the QG platforming is probably fine if the enemies stay dead

fierce vale Aug 28, 2024, 12:03 PM

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Ellen_nod i always just benchwarp it in the randomizer because its so much easier

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and even then usually take 2-3 attemps UraWheeze

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 12:03 PM

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hm, I don't think any of the other metroidvanias I've played lately have a flower quest equivalent

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 12:04 PM

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The tricky part that you can't prepare for ahead of time is the one difficult jump at the end

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 12:04 PM

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pretty sure a few Zeldas do

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 12:04 PM

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OoT has the timed trade sequence

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You take an item to a person who gives you another item and so on

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And if you're too slow it rots or expires

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 12:05 PM

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fresh hill hm, I don't think any of the other metroidvanias I've played lately have a flowe...

ironically, not even the one where planting seeds is a core exploration mechanic

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 12:05 PM

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I've never done it

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 2:45 PM

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Hi. Let's play Hollow Knight

fierce vale Aug 28, 2024, 2:46 PM

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sorry cant atm

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paissapretty

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 2:46 PM

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It's okay I'll do it for you

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Thanks for charm notch, city crest, dash slash, descending dark, Isma's tear, king's brand, king's station stag, left mantis claw, monarch wings, right mothwing cloak, rightslash, shade soul, spore shrooms, thorns of agony, tram pass, weaversong

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 2:54 PM

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i think i got you left mantis claw, is that good?

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i found a few of those for folks

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 2:55 PM

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It lets me wall jump!

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Herrah and Rocket Launcher for Ixrec

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Enjoy your harder crossroads

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 2:56 PM

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oh then thats probably useful in a metroidvania

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 2:59 PM

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Map shop has for me: Ruto's Letter, Progressive Arms

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 2:59 PM

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i dont think those are important

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who wants to read a letter anyway

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 3:00 PM

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For yay899 it has a swamp palace small key that I need 39 charms to get

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You're gonna do swamp palace without that key

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 3:04 PM

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one of 4 seeds, thanks but doesnt unlock anything on its own
interesting theres no popup when i get an item

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 3:06 PM

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FlitterHK sent Krys'kajo Key to FlitterCC (Geo_Rock-Crossroads_Well)
FlitterHK sent Magical Seed to Papermegario (Grub-Crossroads_Guarded)
FlitterHK sent Pages 0-1 to Ixfox (Geo_Rock-Crossroads_Above_Lever)

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My grubfather has louder echo for six rancid eggs, Kratta's bomb bag for fourteen grubs, yay's ganon tower boss key for nineteen grubs

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FlitterHK sent Ladders in Library to LlisandurFox (Crossroads_Map)

fierce vale Aug 28, 2024, 3:11 PM

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mewGiggle the rocketlauncher opens up like 70% of rusted moss if you have the grapple

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like 40% if you dont

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 3:12 PM

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is dreamsheild helpful?

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 3:16 PM

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Yeah

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FlitterHK sent Double Defense to krüt (Leg_Eater_5)

wet field Aug 28, 2024, 3:20 PM

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Less go

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 3:28 PM

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damn now im level 3, the enemies i was fighting that gave me 5 star points are only giving 4, which means 8 per battle rather than 10

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i need 100 to level

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 3:29 PM

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Consider not grinding

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You will get stuff that helps you out soon enough

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 3:30 PM

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im bored and cant do anything else

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 3:30 PM

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midnight depot You will get stuff that helps you out soon enough

everyone else has been getting boatloads of items, i've gotten 1/4 seeds

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 3:31 PM

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Yeah because all of your items are in the worlds of people who haven't gotten to play yet

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Maybe learn a new skip while you wait

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 3:31 PM

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maybe

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also progressive power bracelet for rom

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im taking a break then, let me know if i get a badge or something

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please

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 4:05 PM

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FlitterHK sent Small Key (Fire Temple) to krüt (Wanderer's_Journal-King's_Station)
FlitterHK sent Small Key (Skull Woods) to yaypedestalseed (Dirtmouth_Stag)

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False knight dead

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FlitterHK sent Progressive Arms to FlitterCC (Leg_Eater_8)
FlitterHK sent Fire Arrows to FlitterOoT (Geo_Rock-Crossroads_Before_Glowing_Womb)

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FlitterHK sent Progressive Jump Charge to Papermegario (Geo_Rock-Ancestral_Mound_Tree_Dupe)
FlitterHK sent Gathering_Swarm to Ixbug (Geo_Rock-Ancestral_Mound)

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 4:14 PM

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Jump charge? I don't know what that is, the charge badge is just a badge, not a jump charge badge

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 4:16 PM

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It's marked useful, not progression

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 4:17 PM

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Yeah badges aren't progression

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I dont think there's a point in the game that requires any specific badge

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 4:18 PM

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FlitterHK sent Small Key (Desert Palace) to yaypedestalseed (Grub-Crossroads_Spike)

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Salubra time

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[Hint]: ChipKnight's Whispering_Root-Queens_Gardens is at Salubra_7 in FlitterHK's World. (not found)
[Hint]: yaypedestalseed's Small Key (Swamp Palace) is at Salubra_(Requires_Charms)_14 in FlitterHK's World. (not found)
[Hint]: La DxRomulus's Ribbon is at Salubra_(Requires_Charms)_15 in FlitterHK's World. (not found)

sage dawn Aug 28, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Oh skull woods small key probably gets me a check

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 4:24 PM

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FlitterHK sent Ribbon to La DxRomulus (Salubra_(Requires_Charms)_15)
FlitterHK sent Star Stone to Papermegario (Sly_6)

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I've got plenty of stuff left, but clearing crossroads is enough for today

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 4:26 PM

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Star stone... I don't remember where I use that
Dry dry ruins maybe

cold valve Aug 28, 2024, 4:46 PM

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I should be able to do a buttload of stuff after work today

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 6:06 PM

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ah, someone found my rocket launcher

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no wonder most of Rusted Moss is open now

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 6:06 PM

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I'm someone

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 6:14 PM

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Ixling sent Bombchus to krüt (Flatlands MP UP (Top Right))

weary lagoon Aug 28, 2024, 6:15 PM

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im stuff

sage dawn Aug 28, 2024, 6:17 PM

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Stufftiks

fresh hill Aug 28, 2024, 6:18 PM

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I wonder how much of Snowy Outpost I can do backwards with a rocket launcher

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the answer is almost all of it, until the hard one-way barrier

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Ixling sent Small Key (Fire Temple) to krüt (Smoked Forest Fae Silver (Bottom Left))

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ok that's enough RM for today

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 7:09 PM

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Hi

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Let's play uh, Crosscode?

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The port is 54914

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Thanks for Green Leaf Shade, Blue Ice Shade

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Lumafly lantern for me

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Did I not shuffle quests?

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Quest Randomization: No

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Oh

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Well that'll be easy then

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 7:43 PM

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FlitterCC sent Big Key (Ice Palace) to yaypedestalseed (Rise: Hedgehag's Den)

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FlitterCC sent Simple_Key to Ixbug (Rise: Pathway 3 Upper)

midnight depot Aug 28, 2024, 8:25 PM

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Crosscode has a mod manager now. Neat

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FlitterCC sent Dash_Slash to ChipKnight (Rise: Pathway 4 Center)
FlitterCC sent Bomb Bag to krüt (Rise: Pathway 4 Upper)

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FlitterCC sent Bowser Castle Key to Papermegario (Rise: Old Observatory)

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FlitterCC sent Progressive Scale to krüt (Rise: Pathway 5 Lower)
FlitterCC sent Ladders in South Atoll to Ixfox (Rise: Pathway 6 Center)
FlitterCC sent Letter to Goompapa 1 to Papermegario (Rise: Pathway 6 Left)

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FlitterCC found their Progressive Overworld Area Unlock (Talatu Introductions)

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FlitterCC sent Flag to Ixling (Trail: Entrance Left)
FlitterCC sent Bottle to LlisandurFF1 (Trail: Frozen Cave)

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Let's stop here

lament tusk Aug 28, 2024, 8:58 PM

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midnight depot `FlitterHK sent Progressive Jump Charge to Papermegario (Geo_Rock-Ancestral_Moun...

huh
thats new

cold valve Aug 29, 2024, 12:27 AM

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let's play ladx

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thanks for stuff!~

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hm

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 12:31 AM

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What a steal!

tender pelican Aug 29, 2024, 12:31 AM

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That doesn't sound like a good deal.

cold valve Aug 29, 2024, 12:31 AM

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literally a steal

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La DxRomulus sent Mr Mayor to Ixfox (Toadstool (Mysterious Woods))

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La DxRomulus sent Bomb to LlisandurMQ (Tail Key Chest (Mysterious Woods))

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La DxRomulus sent Boss_Essence-Marmu to Ixbug (Moblin Cave (Tal Tal Heights))

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La DxRomulus sent Bomb to LlisandurLADX (Entrance Chest (Color Dungeon))

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La DxRomulus sent Grenade to Ixling (Upper Small Key (Color Dungeon))

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La DxRomulus sent Fragile_Heart to ChipKnight (Boomerang Guy Item (Toronbo Shores))

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La DxRomulus sent Fae_Silver to Ixling (Mad Batter (Martha's Bay))

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La DxRomulus sent Titania_Piece to Ixling (Hardhat Beetles Key (Tail Cave))

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La DxRomulus sent Effigy to LlisandurFox (Four Zol Chest (Tail Cave))

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La DxRomulus sent Shopkeeper's_Key to FlitterHK (Spark, Mini-Moldorm Chest (Tail Cave))

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La DxRomulus sent Weaversong to Ixbug (Mini-Moldorm Spawn Chest (Tail Cave))

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i got a very ixrec-heavy playthrough right now

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La DxRomulus sent Gemini Crest to LlisandurMQ (Armos Knight (Southern Face Shrine))

tender pelican Aug 29, 2024, 1:00 AM

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Nice.

cold valve Aug 29, 2024, 1:05 AM

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La DxRomulus sent Small Key (Face Shrine) to LlisandurLADX (Darknut, Zol, Bubble Leaf (Kanalet Castle))

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La DxRomulus sent Potion Flask to LlisandurFox (Ghost House Barrel (Martha's Bay))

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La DxRomulus sent Boss_Essence-Lost_Kin to ChipKnight (Donut Plains Ledge Dig (Donut Plains))

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La DxRomulus sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to LlisandurLADX (Lone Bush (Martha's Bay))

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La DxRomulus sent Boomerang to krüt (Access Tunnel Exterior (Tal Tal Mountains))

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@wet field [Hint]: La DxRomulus's Boomerang is at Bottom of the Well Back Left Bombable Chest in krüt's World at DMC Fire Temple Entrance -> Fire Temple Lower. (not found) boomerang hint

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 8:48 AM

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oh grenades, there’s a trick I’ve been meaning to try with those

sage dawn Aug 29, 2024, 4:18 PM

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I go and clean up the couple of checks I took a break before getting last time and they're also important lol
yaypedestalseed sent Left_Mothwing_Cloak to FlitterHK (Chest Game)
yaypedestalseed sent Swim to Ixbug (Skull Woods - Big Key Chest)

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Sorry for apparently having only important items

weary lagoon Aug 29, 2024, 4:21 PM

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its alright yay899

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 4:24 PM

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Thanks

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I can now dash both ways

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 4:39 PM

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are all my slots going to be wide open all month izzynothoughtsheadempty

fierce vale Aug 29, 2024, 4:43 PM

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mewGiggle it happens quite a lot that 90% of my hollow knight just fully opens within like 2 days

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with like 4 checks being missing

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 4:47 PM

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You can set up your YAML to prevent that

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 4:48 PM

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I was wondering whether to non-local my prog like you did, but “people found too many of my prog items” is not the problem that would solve

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 4:48 PM

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No I was thinking more like

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Change the regular settings to limit your mobility as much as possible

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 4:49 PM

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when I get home I need to check how much is in logic

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do you know if HK properly supports UT?

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 4:49 PM

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Like in OoT where you can have closed door of time, closed kokiri forest

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I know Hollow Knight has an internal accurate tracker

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So I have no need for UT

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 4:50 PM

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I already am in a lot of ways (OW shipless, Tunic ladder shuffle, HK swim + the splits)

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in retrospect I should’ve UT’d Tunic during my first session, I have no idea how close to BK I am there or if I was doing OoL stuff

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Rusted Moss does have an actual problem with opening up very fast, OW when I last checked had a tiny sphere 1

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 4:55 PM

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I wonder if you can cleverly plando yourself to make choke points

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 4:57 PM

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probably, but then it’s not random

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 4:58 PM

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That's fine. Randomizers are not about randomizing everything, they're about shuffling aspects of the game to induce novelty

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 5:00 PM

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palette swap is novel

sage dawn Aug 29, 2024, 5:00 PM

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Randomizers are about causing me specifically suffering uwu

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 5:01 PM

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in all seriousness it’s probably fine, I’ve only played half my slots and forgot to check the tracker on one of them

cold valve Aug 29, 2024, 5:03 PM

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I'm liking my current setup a lot, all I find is my own junk and everyone else's stuff

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Which means if you find something for me it's actually useful or important

wet field Aug 29, 2024, 6:29 PM

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I think I might get that lego deku tree set that's coming out

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 6:29 PM

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Do you have a sword and shield?

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If not, you can't afford it

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 6:32 PM

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looks like my HK has maybe 25-30% in logic, OW has 5-10%, Tunic has 10-20%, and RM has ~70%, if I'm eyeballing these location lists correctly

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so I should probably BK OW

wet field Aug 29, 2024, 6:36 PM

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midnight depot If not, you can't afford it

Honestly this is too true, it's very overpriced. I've wanted lego oot since I was in third grade though, so they got my ass

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 6:39 PM

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Let's play OoT

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 6:42 PM

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how valuable is a Star Piece?

sage dawn Aug 29, 2024, 6:44 PM

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Gold skull token

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I wish the shops in Link to the Past told me what items they sold instead of just showing that it's an item for someone else

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 6:46 PM

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I can look into the spoiler log and tell you what's in them

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Thank you for Nayru's love, din's fire, adult wallet, ruto's letter, claim check, fire arrows, hylian shields, death with ice traps, prelude of light

sage dawn Aug 29, 2024, 6:46 PM

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I'm good for now

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I don't really have a good source of rupees yet so I figure they're probably not in logic

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 6:47 PM

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...okay next time I'm definitely non-localing some items, my OW just got 4x bigger

sage dawn Aug 29, 2024, 6:48 PM

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How does Outer Wilds rando even work considering the nature of the game?

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 6:50 PM

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https://github.com/Ixrec/OuterWildsArchipelagoRandomizer?tab=readme-ov-file#what-this-mod-changes

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 6:50 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Bow to krüt (KF Shop Item 6)
FlitterOoT sent Leftslash to FlitterHK (KF Midos Bottom Right Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Tail Key to LlisandurLADX (KF Midos Bottom Left Chest)

tender pelican Aug 29, 2024, 6:50 PM

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Oh nice. I'll have to go see which dungeon has been placed there. XD

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Level 2 was actually level 7.

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 6:51 PM

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Oh!

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This seed is SPICY

sage dawn Aug 29, 2024, 6:51 PM

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Okay yeah that rando seems pretty neat

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Wow Flitter you can do like most of Hollow Knight at this point lol

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 6:52 PM

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to again iterate on what I said earlier

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I don't think anyone screwed up

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this seed is just being nice to a fault

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 6:52 PM

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Damage Multiplier: Ohko

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FlitterOoT sent Progressive Dungeon Unlock to FlitterCC (LW Gift from Saria)

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Good thing I found magic

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Er

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I found Nayru's love

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My first hint will be magic

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 6:55 PM

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sage dawn Okay yeah that rando seems pretty neat

in this seed ||I spawned on Brittle Hollow, currently with no launch codes / translator / signalscope so just running around doing the initial checks, then one of those happened to give me Nomai Warp Codes so suddenly the reachable by jetpack parts of 4 other planets are in logic||

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anyway I'll finish this planet as originally planned and call it there for OW today

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"is it usually this dark on BH?"

checks map
yeah that'd do it

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:04 PM

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Windmill is someone's goron tunic

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FlitterOoT sent Simple_Key to FlitterHK (Kak GS Near Gate Guard)
FlitterOoT sent Great_Slash to FlitterHK (Kak GS House Under Construction)

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 7:07 PM

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WHAT EVEN IS THIS SEED cadancewheeze

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ok I'm stopping there now that a majority of the slot is in logic

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:08 PM

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Good luck

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FlitterOoT sent Left_Mothwing_Cloak to Ixbug (Graveyard Shield Grave Chest)

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 7:10 PM

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it continues

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:10 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Right_Mantis_Claw to ChipKnight (Kak GS Tree)

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 7:10 PM

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total multiworld completion just passed 7% btw

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:10 PM

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Excellent

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 7:11 PM

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and we have what feels like 80% of the core progression rdsnrk

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:11 PM

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My OoT has nothing

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 7:11 PM

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interesting

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:11 PM

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In order to attack anything I need to buy sticks, which I can hold only ten of

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And if I ever dare take a hit I die

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FlitterOoT sent Stag_Nest_Stag to FlitterHK (LLR GS Tree)

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FlitterOoT sent King_Fragment to ChipKnight (LLR Freestanding PoH)

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 7:15 PM

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come to think of it I don't think my Tunic slot got much of anything yet

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:15 PM

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I have this

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 7:15 PM

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I think it just has a lot open at the start because of how ER rolled

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:15 PM

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But I'm capped at 200

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FlitterOoT sent Cyclone_Slash to Ixbug (ZR GS Tree)

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Remember that some abilities like cyclone slash can cut the suspended bricks in Greenpath even if you don't have left or rightslash

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 7:18 PM

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(I don't shuffle the nail directions)

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:19 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Energy_Disruptor to Ixling (Market Bazaar Item 5)
FlitterOoT sent Hide & Seek Frequency to IxrecOW (Market Potion Shop Item 7)

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The potion shop has my sticks

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FlitterOoT sent Pages 24-25 (Prayer) to LlisandurFox (HC Malon Egg)

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I can afford this so let me know if you need it urgently

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FlitterOoT sent Right_Crystal_Heart to FlitterHK (Market Lost Dog)

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Magic Meter is at Cathedral - [2F] Guarded By Lasers in Ixfox's World at Old House Waterfall Entrance -> Far Shore to Atoll. (not found)

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Let's stop here

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I really need this magic meter to make a lot of things much easier

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 7:25 PM

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...did I just forget to try turning left when I went down there yesterday

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ok no the spot I'm thinking of only goes right

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:38 PM

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That makes sense

fresh hill Aug 29, 2024, 7:39 PM

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lol, I use one firecracker and already another progression item for HK

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but I have a different far shore entrance already...

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this might be unreachable without some combat gear

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yeah not happening

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unless I stumble into an entrance from the other direction

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 7:47 PM

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I'll have to do without then

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 8:32 PM

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wait i have two partners?

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im not sure these two unlock anything right now, parakarry and lakilester, but it is useful to have someone other than goombario

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 8:56 PM

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huh, i didnt think you could get kicked out of the gambling room
still an additional 267 coins is certainly helpful right now
i totally didnt savestate scum, no sir

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the tracker keeps saying i found items when i havent, its kinda strange. its like every check in this area is moved one check to the right

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 9:19 PM

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Might be worth reporting as a bug

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 9:25 PM

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right

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 9:44 PM

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flitter, did you use the latest paper mario thing to generate the game?

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@midnight depot

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 9:52 PM

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I don't know. Did you give me the latest apworld file?

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 9:52 PM

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i dont think i gave you anything other than a yaml

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 9:52 PM

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Then I have the one from when Artiks played

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 9:52 PM

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so you probably generated with arti's one

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balls

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im not sure what the solution here, the game is 3 days old
restart? !release? just play though anyway?

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 9:58 PM

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What's the problem exactly? The fact that the checks the tracker sends are not exactly correlated with the ones in game?

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Does that stop you from playing?

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 9:59 PM

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well the tracker is finding items i havent collected yet, and the desync will likely get worse as we progress

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 9:59 PM

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Will it?

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 9:59 PM

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i dont know what the tracker has found and i have found

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 10:00 PM

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midnight depot Will it?

iff its an off-by-one error, all the ones wil add up eventually

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 10:00 PM

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You could use a checklist tracker

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 10:02 PM

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it would be an issue if a key item was hinted and i dont know exactly what check i would need to get to actually find it, or if its somehow slid into a position i cant get yet

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 10:02 PM

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I'll handle things when that happens. Don't worry about it

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 10:04 PM

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its not very satisfying tho

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 10:05 PM

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Okay, if you're not going to be satisfied, then you don't have to play

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I'll pick it up myself

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 10:06 PM

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flitter i realise you probably didnt mean it that way, but that was a very mean thing you just said

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 10:06 PM

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Why?

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 10:08 PM

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the way you said it felt to me more like "oh im never going to make you happy so just dont join"

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 10:09 PM

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What I actually mean to say is that I'm going to do my best to make you happy, but I don't have a lot of tools to fix this problem.

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 10:09 PM

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yeah i realise thats what you meant, but wording is important

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 10:09 PM

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I feel like I worded things correctly.

lament tusk Aug 29, 2024, 10:10 PM

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thank you for clarifying though, and listening there

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so the problem is that i dont really want to play a bugged paper mario game. at best im getting items out of order, at worst another bug we didnt know about occurred that might break the game for everyone, and id rather not play for another few hours only to run into that bug

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id still like to play this month tho, if thats possible

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but if folks dont want to restart, thats understandable

midnight depot Aug 29, 2024, 10:19 PM

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It is too late to restart.

midnight depot Aug 30, 2024, 3:14 PM

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Hi. Let's play Crosscode

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Thanks for Mine Pass

midnight depot Aug 30, 2024, 4:05 PM

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Charm Notch for Ixrec and Chip, King's Brand for Chip, Spore Shroom for Ixrec

midnight depot Aug 30, 2024, 4:51 PM

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On second thought, randomizing key items but keeping quests unrandomized fucking sucks

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It means that all my quests are guaranteed to be junk

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!

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Weird egg for Kratta

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Ice rod for yay

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Power Plus for Mega, Baldur Shell for Ixrec, Progressive Sword for Dr. Romulus, Herb for Llisandur

tender pelican Aug 30, 2024, 5:09 PM

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Oh, I get to wake the elf prince. That usually doesn't happen.

weary lagoon Aug 30, 2024, 5:10 PM

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Power Plus?

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The strongest badge of all time?

midnight depot Aug 30, 2024, 5:13 PM

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It is handy to have

cold valve Aug 30, 2024, 5:18 PM

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Oh another sword already! Thanks!

midnight depot Aug 30, 2024, 5:31 PM

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bug catching net for yay

lament tusk Aug 30, 2024, 5:31 PM

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weary lagoon Power Plus?

the paper mario in this run is bugged unfortunatly

midnight depot Aug 30, 2024, 5:32 PM

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Randomizing shops in Crosscode has proven to make the game a lot more difficult because I can't just buy good gear as the game expects

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Maya's Trinket for Ixrec

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Flag for Ixrec

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Thanks for Omni Lock

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Let's stop here

tender pelican Aug 30, 2024, 5:58 PM

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Oh, the herb got me the hero's laurels in Tunic. That's really good.

wet field Aug 30, 2024, 7:17 PM

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midnight depot Weird egg for Kratta

LyraYesss

weary lagoon Aug 30, 2024, 8:14 PM

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WEIRD EGG MENTIONED

cold valve Aug 31, 2024, 7:47 PM

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let's play ladx

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La DxRomulus sent Void_Heart to FlitterHK (Two Stalfos Key (Bottle Grotto))

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La DxRomulus sent Stone of Agony to FlitterOoT (First Switch Locked Chest (Bottle Grotto))

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@fresh hill hint for you [Hint]: La DxRomulus's Pegasus Boots is at GD: Control Module Logs (Text Wheels) in IxrecOW's World. (not found)

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ok i'm BKd again

fresh hill Aug 31, 2024, 7:54 PM

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welp, one of the few places in OW I can't reach (that requires Launch Codes for my ship)

midnight depot Aug 31, 2024, 7:54 PM

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Thanks

cold valve Aug 31, 2024, 7:55 PM

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this is useful now that i am in this dungeon [Hint]: La DxRomulus's Small Key (Bottle Grotto) is at Shop Slot: Veggie Sticks (Bergen Items) in FlitterCC's World. (not found)

midnight depot Sep 1, 2024, 1:42 PM

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Hi. Let's play Hollow Knight

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Thanks for fragile strength, defender's crest, and many key items

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I opened two new shops so check the hints for anything you might want

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Two pale ores for Ixrec, river coin for Llisandur

midnight depot Sep 1, 2024, 2:56 PM

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That's enough for today.

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Oh also

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FlitterHK sent Koot Red Jar to Papermegario (Whispering_Root-Howling_Cliffs)

midnight depot Sep 2, 2024, 7:41 PM

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Good evening

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What if instead of sleeping I played archipelago?

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Looks like OoT is the next game on my list

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Thanks for bow, strength, lens of truth, death, bolero of fire, giant's wallet, magic (!), death, hookshot, scale, farore's wind

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FlitterOoT sent Ladders in Swamp to Ixfox (KF Shop Item 7)

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Thanks to the scale I can get to Zora shop

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FlitterOoT sent Ladder near Temple Rafters to LlisandurFox (ZD Shop Item 6)

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Jabu Jabu has my bottom of the well

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You joined Outer Wilds just in time

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FlitterOoT sent Feldspar's Signal to IxrecOW (Bottom of the Well Right Bottom Fake Wall Chest)

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Playing on a difficulty where any hit kills you makes me appreciate a lot of encounters more

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How does one get here without bombs? https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884928390421938206/1280257706606723163/EmuHawk_FJ7q0SvIJq.png?ex=66d76c67&is=66d61ae7&hm=8d933b5edbea6793ba348247aee0b5dc3124e4b5e2bb3a834b45ec019df2af59&

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My tracker says I can, but I can't find the right hole to fall through

weary lagoon Sep 2, 2024, 8:12 PM

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drop in there maybe

midnight depot Sep 2, 2024, 8:13 PM

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I can drop into the center, or next to the bomb flower on the opposite side

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The bomb flower explodes too fast

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I don't have keys to get into the beamos room

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I figured it out!

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wet field Sep 2, 2024, 8:15 PM

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Dins fire?

midnight depot Sep 2, 2024, 8:15 PM

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Yeah

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This explodes the bomb flower behind the rock and breaks the rock

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Then I can carry the bomb flower to explode the other rocks

wet field Sep 2, 2024, 8:16 PM

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Good work

midnight depot Sep 2, 2024, 8:16 PM

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Next question

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How do I kill these two dudes with two sticks

wet field Sep 2, 2024, 8:17 PM

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Dins fire

midnight depot Sep 2, 2024, 8:17 PM

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They are immune

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The real answer is you cast Nayru's love and run in

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That's everything in Bottom of the Well

cold valve Sep 2, 2024, 8:21 PM

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let's play ladx

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thanks for stuff! only 1 check unlocked though

midnight depot Sep 2, 2024, 8:23 PM

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Good luck

cold valve Sep 2, 2024, 8:23 PM

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it was a seashell

midnight depot Sep 2, 2024, 8:24 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Dream_Gate to ChipKnight (ZR Magic Bean Salesman)

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FlitterOoT sent Dragon Claw to LlisandurMQ (Market Potion Shop Item 5)

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FlitterOoT sent Heavy_Ammo to Ixling (Market Bombchu Shop Item 8)

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FlitterOoT sent Electrical Insulation to IxrecOW (Market Potion Shop Item 6)

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Let's stop here

sage dawn Sep 2, 2024, 9:23 PM

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No idea if this has been found yet because I do have one of my gloves

midnight depot Sep 2, 2024, 9:27 PM

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Log update

📎 message.txt

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[2024-09-02 02:36:07,124]: (Team #1) krüt sent Progressive Glove to yaypedestalseed (DMT GS Near Kak)

sage dawn Sep 2, 2024, 9:35 PM

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Okay

midnight depot Sep 3, 2024, 10:50 PM

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Hello, friends

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I will play Crosscode

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Thanks for white key, mine key, shop unlocks, cold element

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FlitterCC sent Sword Upgrade to Ixfox (Shop Slot: Iron Boots (Ba'kii Weapons))

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FlitterCC sent Charm_Notch to Ixbug (Maroon: Vivid Path Upper)
FlitterCC sent Nightmare Key (Angler's Tunnel) to LlisandurLADX (Maroon: Torn Road Right)

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FlitterCC sent Greenpath_Stag to Ixbug (Maroon: Endless Pit Center)
FlitterCC sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to LlisandurLADX (Maroon: Long Piece)

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FlitterCC sent Hookshot to La DxRomulus (Maroon: River Cliff Left) !

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FlitterCC sent Wayward_Compass to Ixbug (Maroon: Barren Arcs Left)
FlitterCC sent Weaversong to ChipKnight (Maroon: Barren Land)

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FlitterCC sent Quantum Fluctuations Frequency to IxrecOW (Fall: Southern Exit Center)

fresh hill Sep 3, 2024, 11:27 PM

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talking to Grimm before Elderbug feels weird

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oh right, shop hints are sent out after I close the shop menu

midnight depot Sep 3, 2024, 11:33 PM

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[Hint]: FlitterCC's Heat is at Ridge: Tranquil Bamboo Lower in FlitterCC's World. (not found)

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Ah fuck

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In order to finish the very first dungeon I have to get to the very end of the overworld

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FlitterCC sent Soul_Catcher to ChipKnight (Fall: Lake Cave 4)

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FlitterCC sent Serenade of Water to krüt (Fall: Eastern Exit Right)

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Okay. In order to get to the area with Heat, I need this:

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[Hint]: FlitterCC's Progressive Overworld Area Unlock is at Quarry - [West] Upper Area Near Waterfall in LlisandurFox's World. (not found)

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I don't think I need anything else

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I will stop here. Next I'll play Hollow Knight

cold valve Sep 3, 2024, 11:52 PM

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midnight depot `FlitterCC sent Hookshot to La DxRomulus (Maroon: River Cliff Left)` !

dancecat

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 12:14 AM

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WP is "25 geo", so probably skipping that

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TIL the logic expects me to pogo indefinitely if I don't have crystal dash

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Zote is unimpressed by my progress

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dang, almost got Hornet 1 hitless

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still first try no ores with only one hit

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that's HK at 16%, multiworld at 19%, I'll stop there

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derpysleep

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 4:50 PM

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Archipelago server announcement: Please disconnect your client before you leave for the next while.

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We identified and have staged a fix for another memory leak, thanks to @Black Sliver looking into it. Until that's deployed, it'd be nice if people could make sure to disconnect clients manually before a room spins down, as that's where the leak occurs - a room shutting down with still active connection will prevent some memory from being freed. So when you're done playing, please exit out your clients and connected trackers, this will mean we can operate longer before we need another maintenance to flush the memory, thank you.

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 6:27 PM

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Hi

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Let's chill with OoT

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Thanks for compass

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Child get knocked into ravine and fucking dies on the way to goron city

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Unbreakable heart for Ixrec

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Koopa fortress key for papermegario

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Today I learned you can't destroy grass with din's fire

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FlitterOoT sent Shop Unlock: Ba'kii Items to FlitterCC (GV Crate Freestanding PoH)

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This should be a bunch of items

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FlitterOoT sent Pistol to Ixling (ZD Shop Item 8)

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This cost me my life savings so you'd better use it

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 6:56 PM

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I already have the rocket launcher so probably not

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 6:59 PM

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I miss when games had good gun design

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In Doom 2 the pistol always has a place

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Me when I play Terraria

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:01 PM

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yeah, way too many games just throw a huge pile of weapons at you with marginally different stats and most of them are useless or just straight upgrades of one you found a few minutes ago

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:01 PM

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Bomb Bag is at West Garden House - [Southeast Lowlands] Ice Dagger Pickup in Ixfox's World at Hourglass Cave Entrance. (not found)

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I'm out of checks to get outside of the ones in shops which don't seem that important

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:02 PM

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tbf Rusted Moss only has 6, I just really click with the rocket launcher; it's super rare that a game gets me to use more than one weapon regularly even if it's very balanced

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:02 PM

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In Doom 2 you just die if you stick with one weapon

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Each weapon has a clear use case where it's good, and limited ammo to discourage you from using it elsewhere, and the ammo is rationed per level so you have about enough

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:03 PM

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wow your HK shops had far more stuff than mine did

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yeah I usually only end up weapon swapping if ammo is limited or enemies have immunities/hard counters

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:04 PM

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I have the number of slots in the shops randomized

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:05 PM

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and it's difficult to do ammo limitations without it becoming frustrating at other times

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oh I had plenty of slots, but for me more than half the slots were just geo for geo

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I think my Dirtmouth had maybe 2-3 prog items in total

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I even bought the geo->geo that was someone else's geo

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:05 PM

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In Doom 2 none of the enemies actually hard counter you or are immune. It's the situations that make infeasible

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I should probably look through my hints for good things to grab immediately

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Is Louder Echo any good?

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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I don't know what that is

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does Biggoron Sword unblock anything or is it "just" optimal damage?

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:07 PM

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Tunic game

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Biggoron Sword doubles your damage and extends your range. It's really handy to have but unlocks zero things

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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oh right the Tunic cards

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ok Louder Echo is useless

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:08 PM

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However right now I can't use the biggoron sword because I need the ocarina and song of time to grow up

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:09 PM

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cool, so none of the hinted items in Ixbug are a priority for now (the Bowser Castle Key is behind a huge Essence total so I'm not getting that anytime soon)

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the IxrecOW hinted items are behind, annoyingly enough, the two biggest progression items that slot doesn't already have, making it simultaneously too open to feel randomized and too constrained to be useful (I am definitely non-localing translator next time)

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Pegasus Boots are clearly more important than a Star Piece so I'll hint what I need to get thsoe

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oh I haven't even done enough to earn 1 hint

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ok, then I think the plan is to play just enough OW to hint that, and then focus on Tunic where the more valuable and maybe-reachable hinted items are

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:14 PM

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Letter to Koover 2, Progressive Power Smash for Meganought, Right mothwing cloak for Chip, Charm Notch for Ixrec

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:14 PM

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noooo I wanted right mothwing izzysadness

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oh wait I do have the signalscope

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IxrecOW sent Ice Trap to FlitterOoT (BH Ship Log: Tower Shard 1 - Grove Objects)
IxrecOW sent Gold Skulltula Token to krüt (BH Ship Log: Tower Shard 3 - QM Signal)

that's more like it rdwut

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geez I even have all the signal frequencies already

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:25 PM

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Oh no ice traps kill me instantly

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:28 PM

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@wet field need this to reach Rom's Pegasus Boots, also the biggest item left for my OW slot
[Hint]: IxrecOW's Launch Codes is at Fire Temple Volvagia Heart in krüt's World at Kakariko Village -> Bottom of the Well. (not found)

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:31 PM

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Top right

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Oh nice feature

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The mod has a checklist that lets you know when you get important trade items

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:39 PM

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is "Letter to Russ T" any good?

weary lagoon Sep 4, 2024, 7:41 PM

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every letter is one check

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:42 PM

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It's a claim check

weary lagoon Sep 4, 2024, 7:42 PM

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a treasure chart as I like to call them

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:42 PM

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Do you need the treasure charts to actually find and open the treasures?

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You should be rewarded for memorizing every treasure chest location like in A Short Hike

weary lagoon Sep 4, 2024, 7:43 PM

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Yes

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:43 PM

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was that a real Bow or just ammo

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:45 PM

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[2024-09-04 19:43:23,474]: (Team #1) IxrecOW sent Bow to FlitterOoT (AT: BH Tower (Text Wall))

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It was just a quiver unfortunately

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Also I can't use the bow without song of time and an ocarina

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:46 PM

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and I finally died

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:46 PM

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Well done

cold valve Sep 4, 2024, 7:46 PM

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End Times playing in the distance

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:46 PM

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I spent half of it carrying around a dumb rock I could never get a check from because I didn't find a warp to the right planet

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but at least I got fifty other things

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nah I ran out of oxygen on AT at ~17:30, wasn't nearly as careful as I should've been when checking the AT warps

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random spawn is fun though

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:47 PM

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Speaking of dumb rock, please vote #announcements message

cold valve Sep 4, 2024, 7:48 PM

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Sorry I voted for the dumb tree

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 7:49 PM

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rdlol I hadn't even looked at the poll

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aaaaand I just realized I have a logic bug involving the dumb rock

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 7:56 PM

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Dogfooding works!

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They should probably make dog food out of cake

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 8:12 PM

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hm, both of my hinted Tunic locations are in logic apparently

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 8:32 PM

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right, enemy rando is client side in this game, so logic has no idea what the random enemies are

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unless I turn off enemy rando, magic meter is still not happening in this direction; the stick helps but there are still multiple enemies here that simply can't be fought without more options, and one of the shielded ones is fully blocking a narrow walkway

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 8:33 PM

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Is that an issue for logic?

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That makes sense

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 8:34 PM

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I guess in theory it is but that's probably just the nature of a clientside enemy rando

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I'm gonna try to stick to it though

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 8:35 PM

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Watching this made me want to try Crosscode at level 1 with gear only https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P-aHoSpWj4

YouTube

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CrossCode Bosses (No EXP): Blazehoof (Bull on Fire) - Can you beat ...

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fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 8:35 PM

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oh boy a quarry entrance

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not doing that

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 8:36 PM

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It's an RPG game, so stats matter, but it's a metroidvania, so stats don't matter that much

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 8:36 PM

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waaaaait a minute I have orb

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I consciously checked for it and didn't see it but now it's there so whatever

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 8:37 PM

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[2024-08-31 00:43:51,034]: (Team #1) LlisandurFox sent Magic Orb to Ixfox (East Forest - From Guardhouse 1 Chest)

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Log update:

📎 message.txt

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 8:38 PM

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nvm orb doesn't help here

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enemy rando on bosses is pretty funny

tender pelican Sep 4, 2024, 8:51 PM

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Lol.

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I hate those things.

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 8:51 PM

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but have you beaten one with nothing but a stick

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I don't recommend it

tender pelican Sep 4, 2024, 8:54 PM

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I would hope not.

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 8:55 PM

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apparently this is a dead end anyway until I get library ladders

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 9:00 PM

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[2024-09-04 20:57:32,934]: (Team #1) Ixfox sent Shade_Soul to ChipKnight (Ruined Atoll - [North] Obscured Beneath Bridge)

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Ooh, thanks for bombchus

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Those unlock a ton of checks since I don't yet have the bomb bag

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 9:03 PM

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really? must you? marblegrump

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 9:23 PM

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@midnight depot

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 9:23 PM

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Hell yeah thank you

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This will open

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Nothing right now actually

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But it'll be super handy

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Zora's river wants bombs, goron city has a couple of checks you need bombs for, death mountain's upper half needs bombs, the bombchu shop needs bombs, fire temple entrance as child needs bombs I think.

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 9:29 PM

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@cold valve very not urgent, but this is the lategame OP movement item that breaks Tunic wide open

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and ER dead end

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this feels like a good stopping point

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Ixfox at 18.5%, IxrecOW at 22%, multiworld's at 21%

cold valve Sep 4, 2024, 9:34 PM

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fresh hill <@221742476153716736> very not urgent, but this is the lategame OP movement item...

I will need 3 small keys and a nightmare key for that, some of which may have already been sent. I know flitter has one in a shop

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 9:35 PM

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assuming you mean the (Bottle Grotto) keys, looks like you have the nightmare one but only 1/3 smalls

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separately, I feel like ~20% is about how much I want to do stick-only, so

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@midnight depot [Hint]: Ixfox's Sword Upgrade is at Faj'ro GF: Right Chamber 1 in FlitterCC's World. (not found)

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 9:37 PM

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Fa'jro temple

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 9:38 PM

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[Hint]: Ixfox's Shield is at Boots 'n' Bomb Cave Bombable Wall (Ukuku Prairie) in La DxRomulus's World. (not found)

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 9:38 PM

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I need access to the next dungeon, and keys to it

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Then the dungeon after

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 9:38 PM

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I think with a real sword and shield I should be able to get past the cathedral enemies to your magic meter

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even stick and shield might cut it

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 9:38 PM

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Oh I already got magic from someone else

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 9:38 PM

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or that

midnight depot Sep 4, 2024, 9:39 PM

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Now more magic is very convenient but not urgent

cold valve Sep 4, 2024, 9:40 PM

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fresh hill `[Hint]: Ixfox's Shield is at Boots 'n' Bomb Cave Bombable Wall (Ukuku Prairie) ...

Need pegasus boots

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 9:40 PM

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that would explain the name

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I think that's our first chain of the month

cold valve Sep 4, 2024, 9:41 PM

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I'm sure I have extra stuff by now but I can't check for another 90 minutes

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 9:41 PM

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krut's Fire Temple Volvagia Heart has my OW Launch Codes, which I need to get Rom's Pegasus Boots, which Rom needs to get my Shield, which I ... don't really need but it would probably let me get Flitter's magic meter

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not The chain but it's a chain

cold valve Sep 4, 2024, 9:42 PM

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My next hint should probably be flippers if I don't have them already

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Feather, boots, flippers, hookshot, and boomerang are usually the main ones I need to hint for

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The boomerang is strictly optional but it makes life much easier

tender pelican Sep 4, 2024, 9:44 PM

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My only weapon is the boomerang. XD

fresh hill Sep 4, 2024, 9:45 PM

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the true Zelda experience

cold valve Sep 5, 2024, 2:14 AM

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La DxRomulus sent Scale to LlisandurLADX (Cave Under Lanmola (Yarna Desert))

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La DxRomulus sent BowWow to LlisandurLADX (Under Armos Cave (Southern Face Shrine))

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La DxRomulus sent Lumafly_Lantern to ChipKnight (Rock Seashell (Yarna Desert))

cold valve Sep 5, 2024, 2:31 AM

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fresh hill <@221742476153716736> very not urgent, but this is the lategame OP movement item...

This is all i need to get Ixrec's thing [Hint]: La DxRomulus's Small Key (Bottle Grotto) is at Shop Slot: Veggie Sticks (Bergen Items) in FlitterCC's World. (not found)

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next hint: [Hint]: La DxRomulus's Flippers is at Shop Slot: Guacamole Toast (Harbor Backer Items) in FlitterCC's World. (not found)

lament tusk Sep 5, 2024, 6:16 PM

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ok im definitely done with paper mario now. i thought i'd load it up and see what has been unlocked, but somehow i was set back hours. i know i'd saved but apparently it just... didnt save
this is combined with archipaeligo being weird tracking what i picked up and the emo tracker apparently not having every check so im going to miss some...
yeah paper mario was a mistake.

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 6:18 PM

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That's unfortunate

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It's Paper Mario 64? I can pick it up in your stead and you can play another game next time you feel like joining

lament tusk Sep 5, 2024, 6:22 PM

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if you want to deal with those problems

sage dawn Sep 5, 2024, 7:13 PM

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Trade one game with Flitter uwu

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 7:13 PM

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No

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I can play one extra game but I'm not going to drop a game in exchange

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I think it works!

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Any tips? I've never played games older than TTYD

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Oh it has an in-game tracker

sage dawn Sep 5, 2024, 7:20 PM

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BP is your most important stat

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Though that might be different in rando

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On account of badges being shuffled

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 7:21 PM

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Right now I have shit badges

sage dawn Sep 5, 2024, 7:21 PM

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Didn't you get a power up badge already?

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What badges do you have?

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 7:21 PM

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Power Plus takes 8 BP

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I have 3

sage dawn Sep 5, 2024, 7:21 PM

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Oh BP cost is randomized

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That's a rough cost for power plus

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 7:22 PM

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I have these badges

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And these badges

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And cosmetic badges

weary lagoon Sep 5, 2024, 7:22 PM

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I had to play a lot more HP than I do in regular playthroughs because you dont always get the regular broken shit

sage dawn Sep 5, 2024, 7:22 PM

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HP plus is cheaper than a level in HP

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In your seed

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What's deep focus do again?

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 7:23 PM

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Heals you for two but takes 66% longer

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I mean

sage dawn Sep 5, 2024, 7:24 PM

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Oh that's bad.

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Mini jump charge + multibounce might be good for certain encounters

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And quake hammer is real cheap which is good for clearing adds

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 7:25 PM

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Why do my party members have a question mark next to them?

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They also are transparent when out in the field

sage dawn Sep 5, 2024, 7:25 PM

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Unsure

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 7:25 PM

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I guess I don't have them yet

sage dawn Sep 5, 2024, 7:25 PM

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Must be yeah

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Guess they do that instead of making enhancement progressive???

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God though

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Cursed seed

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8 BP power plus

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 7:28 PM

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Looks like the hint wizard doesn't actually tell me anything of use

sage dawn Sep 5, 2024, 7:30 PM

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But yeah definitely next two times you want to level hp take bp and equip HP up instead

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 7:37 PM

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I can't get Mario to deal more than 2 damage with his jumps

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All of his companions deal more

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Let's find out what happens if I die

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Straight to the main menu!

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A new key item was added to the game: Homeward Shroom. You can press A in the key items menu to use it, and it allows you to warp back to the seed's starting location.

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Oh the game has an in-game tracker

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Handy

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midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 8:33 PM

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Please stop flirting with me

weary lagoon Sep 5, 2024, 8:33 PM

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i thought you had played ttyd

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 8:34 PM

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I did

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I played nothing older

weary lagoon Sep 5, 2024, 8:35 PM

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every single woman in ttyd flirts with mario so you should be used to it

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 8:35 PM

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No if they're hot it's okay

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Does Mini Jump Charge stack with Multibounce?

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Probably not. They look like discrete abilities

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 8:54 PM

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Papermegario sent Progressive Sword to yaypedestalseed (GR Goomba Road 2 Red Block)

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???

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I got this on the second go through the area

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Why wasn't it there the first time?

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Time to do some save scumming

lament tusk Sep 5, 2024, 9:05 PM

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sage dawn Oh BP cost is randomized

it wasnt randomised, the badge values seemed to ahve been tweaked anyway

lament tusk Sep 5, 2024, 9:07 PM

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midnight depot I got this on the second go through the area

its almost as if i was complaining about how the checks and what i pick up are entierly unrelated

lament tusk Sep 5, 2024, 9:08 PM

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midnight depot Does Mini Jump Charge stack with Multibounce?

yes. charge increases jump damage, which affects all attacks in the jump category

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 9:08 PM

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You made it sound like getting an item would result in you getting a different location

lament tusk Sep 5, 2024, 9:08 PM

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thats what was happening

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 9:08 PM

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Rather than you have to get some items twice in order for them to count

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Well that's not what happened to me

lament tusk Sep 5, 2024, 9:08 PM

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well then you're having new and exciting bugs!

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also, i know i got that block already!

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 9:09 PM

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Is there a way to sell items?

lament tusk Sep 5, 2024, 9:10 PM

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key items or badges? no

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 9:10 PM

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Regular items

lament tusk Sep 5, 2024, 9:10 PM

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regular items like mushroms? yes

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just talk to a shop keeper

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 9:10 PM

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Thanks

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Okay, Sly

lament tusk Sep 5, 2024, 9:17 PM

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therea re two shops in toad town

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in the story you find the key i the shyguy toybox but obviously thats been randomised

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 9:19 PM

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Yeah that makes sense

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Papermegario sent Simple_Key to ChipKnight (KR Pleasant Path Bridge Behind Fence)

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I love savescumming shops

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 11:05 PM

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How does one use an item to heal out of combat?

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Oh yeah you can't do it through the menu, you gotta flick the stick out of menu

cold valve Sep 5, 2024, 11:25 PM

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let's play ladx

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no new checks

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 11:26 PM

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What do you need to progress?

cold valve Sep 5, 2024, 11:27 PM

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anything really

midnight depot Sep 5, 2024, 11:43 PM

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Papermegario found their Bowser Castle Key (MR Mt Rugged 3 Bub-ulb Gift)
Papermegario sent Progressive Strength Upgrade to krüt (MR Mt Rugged 2 Parakarry Ledge)

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:05 AM

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This game is big and the randomizer makes it nonlinear

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I have no clue where to go

lament tusk Sep 6, 2024, 12:07 AM

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Have you opened the grey block in the sewers to the left of the pipe?

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:07 AM

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Yeah that's why I'm confused

lament tusk Sep 6, 2024, 12:08 AM

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Head to goomba village first I suppose, you should be able to check everything off there
It's the starting area so you only need goombario and hammer

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:09 AM

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Universal Tracker says there's nothing left there

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I have these checks,

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And these checks left

lament tusk Sep 6, 2024, 12:09 AM

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I've got no idea what those are

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Do you not have emotracker?

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:10 AM

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I assume TT is Toad Town, DDD is Dry Dry Desert, GR is Goomba something, and KR is the same

lament tusk Sep 6, 2024, 12:10 AM

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Goomba road I think

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:10 AM

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And Koopa Road

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Papermegario sent Shovel to LlisandurLADX (DDD N3W3 Yellow Block Left)

sage dawn Sep 6, 2024, 12:21 AM

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Oh nice finally a sword

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:21 AM

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LlisandurFox sent Letter to Frost T to Papermegario (Overworld - [East] Between Ladders Near Ruined Passage) Thank you

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Papermegario sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to LlisandurLADX (GR Bottom of the Cliff Above Stone Block)

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Papermegario sent Captain's Cap to LlisandurMQ (GR Bottom of the Cliff In Tree)

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LlisandurFox sent Hookshot to yaypedestalseed (Quarry - [Back Entrance] Obscured Behind Wall)

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[Hint]: Papermegario's Kooper is at Ridge: Sapphire Tunnel in FlitterCC's World. (not found)

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[Hint]: Papermegario's Bombette is at TH: Mines (Text Wall) in IxrecOW's World. (not found)

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 12:37 AM

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so is PM less broken for Flitter somehow, or is Flitter just cool with the breakage?

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:38 AM

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I'm not observant enough to tell yet

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Universal Tracker seems to be accurate for the most part

tender pelican Sep 6, 2024, 12:39 AM

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[Hint]: LlisandurFox's Scavenger Mask is at GC Shop Item 5 in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)
[Hint]: LlisandurFox's Magic Orb is at Kak GS Above Impas House in krüt's World. (not found)
I need either of these for the quarry. Poptracker says I can get get a bunch of stuff, but the snipers keep kicking my butt.

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:39 AM

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It might be that checks seemed broken for Meganought because he was using files that expect a different version

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I can get the first one

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Let me switch games real quick

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Thanks for fucking killing me with ice traps

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 12:45 AM

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iirc the mask is only logically required for the lower part of quarry, since in vanilla you get it inside the monastery

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:45 AM

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As well as Zora Tunic, quiver, bombchus, bomb bag

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 12:45 AM

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but can't argue with waiting for orb to deal with the snipers

tender pelican Sep 6, 2024, 12:45 AM

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Yeah, but it's a pain trying to dodge the snipers while also having my life constantly drained.

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Fortunately I have the laurels so it's a lot easier to dodge. XD

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:47 AM

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I'll be back when I have the money

tender pelican Sep 6, 2024, 12:55 AM

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Thanks.

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 12:55 AM

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FlitterOoT sent Scavenger Mask to LlisandurFox (GC Shop Item 5)

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FlitterOoT sent Grub to ChipKnight (GC Shop Item 7)

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FlitterOoT sent Progressive Sword to LlisandurLADX (Market Bombchu Bowling Second Prize)

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Let's stop here

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Next time I will play more OoT

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 4:47 AM

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It's next time

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FlitterOoT sent Shotgun to Ixling (SFM Wolfos Grotto Chest)

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THE LEGENDARY ORANGE RUPEE

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Filled up my wallet to full

sage dawn Sep 6, 2024, 5:04 AM

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I didn't know those could drop in that

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 5:06 AM

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Two in a row!

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 5:07 AM

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sage dawn I didn't know those could drop in that

In the vanilla game the diving orange rupee has 4.81ish% drop chance, and it fills your wallet to full

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With the magic of save states I have done it a third time

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to LlisandurLADX (ZD Shop Item 7)"
FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to LlisandurLADX (ZD Shop Item 5)

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And bought the shop out

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 5:18 AM

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cold valve anything really

FlitterOoT sent Nightmare Key (Tail Cave) to La DxRomulus (Market Bombchu Shop Item 7)
I found you something!

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It was the last valuable shop item

cold valve Sep 6, 2024, 5:19 AM

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oh sweet thanks!

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i think that will get me an instrument!

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let me log on and do it

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 5:19 AM

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Oh good I was afraid it was going to be useless for now

cold valve Sep 6, 2024, 5:20 AM

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there's a bottle grotto key in your crosscode game that will get me another instrument

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 5:20 AM

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I will play that next

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I have seven checks left to get in OoT

cold valve Sep 6, 2024, 5:22 AM

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La DxRomulus sent Mask_Shard to FlitterHK (Moldorm Heart Container (Tail Cave))

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La DxRomulus found their Full Moon Cello (Full Moon Cello (Tail Cave))

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 5:23 AM

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Mask shards are heart pieces

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Time to learn the infinite sword glitch

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Can you even do ISG with a stick?

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Oh wait I actually need to get sunlight before the sun gets too intense for life

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 5:54 AM

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Delicious delicious UV index of 4

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Normally it's fucking 12

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 6:42 AM

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I did it

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Getting every no-key check in child spirit temple when you die in one hit without a sword or slingshot is terrifying

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I did not learn ISG though

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I need this item

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Glad to see the volcano item is junk

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Let's do Crosscode

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Interesting to see OoT BK at just the average of all games

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[2024-09-06 06:56:22,764]: (Team #1) FlitterCC sent Gold Skulltula Token to krüt (Shop Slot: Spicy Beat-0-Type (Harbor Backer Items))
[2024-09-06 06:56:22,765]: (Team #1) FlitterCC sent Shade_Soul to Ixbug (Shop Slot: Werewolf Stick (Harbor Backer Items))
[2024-09-06 06:56:22,766]: (Team #1) FlitterCC sent Right_Mothwing_Cloak to ChipKnight (Shop Slot: Willis Waldmahl (Harbor Backer Items))
[2024-09-06 06:56:22,766]: (Team #1) FlitterCC sent Flippers to La DxRomulus (Shop Slot: Guacamole Toast (Harbor Backer Items))```

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All in one shop

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FlitterCC sent Small Key (Thieves Hideout) to krüt (Harbor: Weapon & Backer Shop)

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FlitterCC sent Song of Storms to FlitterOoT (Ba'kii: Bazaar House)
FlitterCC sent Fragile_Strength to Ixbug (Bergen North: On Ledge In Lower East)

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All the progression was in my game

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FlitterCC sent Old House Key to Ixfox (Maroon: Endless Pit Left)

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FlitterCC sent Letter to Merlon to Papermegario (Maroon: Vivid Path Lower)

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FlitterCC sent Quick_Slash to FlitterHK (Maroon: Paw Cliffs Upper)

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And most importantly,

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FlitterCC sent Gold Skulltula Token to krüt (Maroon: Paw Cliffs Lower)

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FlitterCC sent Weird Egg to FlitterOoT (Trail: Lofty Heights)

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 7:33 AM

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FlitterCC sent Simple_Key to Ixbug (Fall: Northern Exit Upper)

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FlitterCC sent Boomerang to FlitterOoT (Fall: Pillar Isle Upper)

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 8:01 AM

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FlitterCC sent Kokiri Sword to FlitterOoT (Mine U1: Old Shaft 1)!

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FlitterCC sent Ladders to Frog's Domain to Ixfox (Mine U1: Crossing Funnel)
FlitterCC sent Bombchus to krüt (Mine U1: Testing Chamber)

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[Hint]: FlitterCC's Wave is at Grub-Fungal_Bouncy in Ixbug's World. (not found)

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I need this for the jungle

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FlitterCC sent Blue Key to Papermegario (Heat Pedestal)

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 8:40 AM

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FlitterCC sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to La DxRomulus (Mine U4: Forgotten Shaft 4)
FlitterCC sent Bottle (Bee) to yaypedestalseed (Mine U4: Elevator)

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Done for now

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 9:43 AM

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midnight depot I need this item

might be a while, I haven't found an entrance to that area yet, and I don't have holy cross (and I'm out of hint points in that slot)

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hm, yeah still just the 1 sword upgrade

lament tusk Sep 6, 2024, 9:54 AM

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fresh hill so is PM less broken for Flitter somehow, or is Flitter just cool with the break...

the thing that was breaking mostly was that i was picking up items that werent being tracked, and also randomly the tracker was finding items that i never touched
this makes finding exactly what i have done very hard, and what i need to do
it also messes up the circles as im "finding" items i cant get right now, and not picking up items i can easilly get
this, combined with the fact that the emo tracker i was using seemed to be missing checks? i think? it was still useful, but it all added up to being a confusing time
then i somehow lost a good few hours of playthrough

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 9:58 AM

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ah, so it was "just" the tracker being broken? the game<->AP communication was working correctly?

lament tusk Sep 6, 2024, 9:59 AM

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it was connecting and sending items

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it was just sending the wrong items

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 11:39 AM

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oh yikes

weary lagoon Sep 6, 2024, 2:21 PM

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heres the webtracker with AP integration I used for PM https://pm64r-tracker.mryami.com/

Paper Mario 64 Randomizer Tracker

Randomizer tracker made by MrYami. This is only a tracker. To play the PM64 Randomizer, go to their website: pm64randomizer.com

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 5:05 PM

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Universal tracker seemed to work fine but I like pretty pictures so I'll try that

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 9:40 PM

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Hi.

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Let's play Hollow Knight

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[2024-09-06 21:49:02,371]: Notice (Team #1): [Hint]: yaypedestalseed's Small Key (Skull Woods) is at Greenpath_Stag in FlitterHK's World.
[2024-09-06 21:49:16,764]: (Team #1) FlitterHK sent Elevator_Pass to ChipKnight (Wanderer's_Journal-Greenpath_Stag)
[2024-09-06 21:50:19,115]: (Team #1) FlitterHK sent Ladders in Lower Quarry to Ixfox (Split_Mothwing_Cloak)
[2024-09-06 21:50:25,295]: (Team #1) FlitterHK sent BaneSword to LlisandurFF1 (Mothwing_Cloak)```

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He doesn't want to sit next to me because I am stinky

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FlitterHK sent Ladder to East Forest to Ixfox (Geo_Rock-Greenpath_Toll_Hidden_Dupe)

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 10:24 PM

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FlitterHK sent Small Key (Swamp Palace) to yaypedestalseed (Salubra_(Requires_Charms)_14)
FlitterHK sent Ladders near Overworld Checkpoint to LlisandurFox (Geo_Rock-Crossroads_Vessel_Fragment)
FlitterHK sent Sword Upgrade to Ixfox (Wanderer's_Journal-City_Storerooms)

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[Hint]: FlitterHK's Focus is at Overworld - [Northwest] Chest Near Quarry Gate in Ixfox's World. (not found)```
As I am remarkably lazy, I would like these items please

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 10:48 PM

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FlitterHK sent Progressive Arms to FlitterCC (Iselda_14)
FlitterHK sent Small Key (Fire Temple) to krüt (Egg_Shop_5)
FlitterHK sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to LlisandurLADX (Egg_Shop_14)

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FlitterHK sent Ether to yaypedestalseed (Geo_Rock-Crystal_Peak_Entrance_Dupe_1)
FlitterHK sent Boo Record to Papermegario (Egg_Shop_6)
FlitterHK sent Progressive Arms to FlitterCC (Geo_Rock-Crystal_Peak_Entrance_Dupe_2)

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FlitterHK sent Small Key (Ganons Tower) to yaypedestalseed (Boss_Geo-Crystal_Guardian)

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 11:21 PM

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FlitterHK sent Sharp_Shadow to Ixbug (Geo_Rock-Crystal_Peak_Above_Crushers_Higher)

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FlitterHK sent Golden Coin to Ixfox (Dream_Nail)

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FlitterHK sent Coordinates to IxrecOW (Seer_5)

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I have never seen a single one of these contain a useful item

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FlitterHK sent Ladder to Beneath the Vault to Ixfox (Whispering_Root-Resting_Grounds)

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This is a no flower seed

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 11:37 PM

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midnight depot ```[Hint]: FlitterHK's Gathering_Swarm is at Gurgu Volcano Armory Floor (B2) - A...

that might be trivial for me to get

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 11:40 PM

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...and check whether the photo is of a bird.

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 11:41 PM

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got

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 11:44 PM

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Thanks!

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That'll make it much more convenient for me to buy shop items

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Oh wrong item

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You sent me focus

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I got so excited that I don't have to collect geo anymore

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 11:46 PM

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the message of yours I replied to had two items, this is the one in my slot

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also the Old House Key you found allowed me to get Ixfox sent Nightmare Key (Tail Cave) to LlisandurLADX (Forest Grave Path - Upper Walkway)

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 11:47 PM

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That's true. None of it is your fault but I'm mad

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 11:47 PM

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that'll do for this microsession

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I guess the lesson is to put each hint in its own discord message so we can do fine-grained replies?

cold valve Sep 6, 2024, 11:47 PM

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let's play ladx

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now with streaming!

midnight depot Sep 6, 2024, 11:50 PM

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Hi

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It's funny how many assets are shared between LADX and A Link to the Past

cold valve Sep 6, 2024, 11:53 PM

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@fresh hill La DxRomulus sent Hero's Laurels to Ixfox (Genie Heart Container (Bottle Grotto))

fresh hill Sep 6, 2024, 11:53 PM

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TUNIC

cold valve Sep 6, 2024, 11:53 PM

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2 instruments

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La DxRomulus sent Sharp_Shadow to ChipKnight (Three Iron Mask Chest (Catfish's Maw))

midnight depot Sep 7, 2024, 12:02 AM

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Now we all have sharp shadows

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FlitterHK sent Hero Relic - POTION to Ixfox (Geo_Rock-Greenpath_Waterfall)

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FlitterHK sent Cookbook to Papermegario (Boss_Essence-No_Eyes)

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FlitterHK sent Small Key (Tower of Hera) to yaypedestalseed (Geo_Chest-Greenpath)

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Thank you for Wanderer's Journal

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Each relic I get gives me damage because of an accessory I have

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FlitterHK found their Simple_Key (Geo_Rock-Greenpath_Second_Skip_Lower)

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My simple key was the last check in greenpath

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That's howling cliff, crossroads and greenpath cleared

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Final dinner is a pretty strong consumable item. Handy for fighting bosses underleveled

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FlitterHK sent Canal to LlisandurFF1 (Grub-Crystal_Heart)

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FlitterHK sent Book of Mudora to yaypedestalseed (Whispering_Root-Crystal_Peak)

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Thanks for streaming

cold valve Sep 7, 2024, 12:28 AM

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thanks for watching

midnight depot Sep 7, 2024, 12:34 AM

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FlitterHK sent Quantum Moon Signal to IxrecOW (Grimmkin_Flame-Crystal_Peak)

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Let's stop here. That's crystal peak cleared too

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And Hollow Knight is back on top of my games by percentage, so next time I'll play Paper Mario

tender pelican Sep 7, 2024, 12:57 AM

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midnight depot `FlitterHK sent Canal to LlisandurFF1 (Grub-Crystal_Heart)`

Thanks! Now I can actually play FF1.

midnight depot Sep 7, 2024, 12:59 AM

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Oh I remember

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Dwarves dig you a canal so your ship can leave the inner sea

midnight depot Sep 7, 2024, 1:48 PM

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Hi. Let's play Paper Mario

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Wow that's pretty good

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Some of my companions have this weird blue dot. What does it mean?

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Does it mean that I've gotten an improvement for them?

#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer