Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer | Manechat | Page 40

clear summit May 18, 2024, 12:33 PM

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midnight depot May 19, 2024, 1:11 AM

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Hi

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Let's play a little MS because I can't sleep

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Thanks for sanctuary token

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I need one more

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FlitterMS's Sanctuary Token is at Dodongos Cavern MQ Deku Scrub Staircase in kr?t's World at Kakariko Village -> Bottom of the Well. (not found)

cold valve May 19, 2024, 1:33 AM

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let's see if anything can be done in LADX

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1 check! let's find out what it is

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 1:38 AM

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I have the following checks available in my game

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(The autotracker doesn't show them. I had to run the universal tracker)

cold valve May 19, 2024, 1:38 AM

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bah, magpie updated something and forgot all my entrances

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 1:41 AM

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That's unfortunate. Magpie shouldn't get updated unless you update archipelago

cold valve May 19, 2024, 1:41 AM

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i got a useless item

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oh well i guess i can go remap all the entrances again

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 1:53 AM

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FlitterMS sent Cyclops Hull Fragment to Submega (Stronghold Dungeon - Jail Hidden Area)

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Holy shit it's him

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My favorite mount

cold valve May 19, 2024, 2:12 AM

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all re-mapped

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i'm really hurting for that feather

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 2:13 AM

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FlitterMS sent Progressive Bow to Toon Arti (Magma Chamber - Legendary Keeper Room - Mozzie Reward 1)

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 2:29 AM

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[Hint]: FlitterMS's Ancient Woods key is at Bottom of the Well Underwater Front Chest in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)

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Next time I will play a Link to the Past

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However, Zelda's Lullaby in OoT will allow me to get the ancient woods key which will allow me to reach horizon beach which will allow me to get Meganought his Strength

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My other key: FlitterMS's Ancient Woods key is at Cliffside Hamlet 10 - Gerrod, the Elder Warrior in Ixlily's World. (not found)

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 7:51 AM

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Kratta usually only plays on weekends but hasn't been around for this one 😔

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thanks for wind waker light arrows

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progressive glove for flitterlttp

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 8:27 AM

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Oh those are super handy

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 8:27 AM

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Lullaby for flitteroot

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 8:56 AM

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cold valve i'm really hurting for that feather

its locked behind some relics but i dont know which HatPensive

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probably these one

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@midnight depot @cold valve paissapretty item requests

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 9:08 AM

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lets see whats happening in paper mario

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probably a lot of traversing the whole world for one check

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huh, almost nothing new after not touching this for almost a week

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 9:17 AM

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@midnight depot another flitter request!

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 9:18 AM

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giant seed for flitterms

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 9:43 AM

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All 3 of my games are fully BKed

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lets hint some important OoT items

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Thats probably going to take a while.

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i think i need 2 more seeds to enter chapter 6

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@midnight depot

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more flitterms

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@wet field this one is very funny.

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 10:13 AM

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paissapretty i'm now bk'd until i get paintings, relics or the blue metro pass ~~which i can't hint yet~~

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 11:16 AM

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weary lagoon <@68799960375623680>

Forgotten world is postgame

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Morpha's heart might be possible

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 11:23 AM

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UraPraying dont worry about rushing if you cant get both parts of the relic pair, cant do anything without both

lament tusk May 19, 2024, 11:39 AM

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still BK in oot

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and subnautica

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 11:45 AM

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fierce vale <@68799960375623680> another flitter request!

Now this I'm surprised I didn't get. Does it need shovel or something?

cold valve May 19, 2024, 12:34 PM

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fierce vale <@68799960375623680> <@221742476153716736> <:paissapretty:660922666420666409> it...

I need the feather for that

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 12:36 PM

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dumbtiktok then your feather is locked behind flitter completing one of my relic sets

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 1:03 PM

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only krøt and flitterlttp can save us

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 1:07 PM

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They turned the presentation I was going to do in person remote, so now I have some time to play

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I can't wait until they invent holograms that take your commute for you

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Let's play A Link to the Past

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Thanks for cane, arrow and bomb capacity, strength

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Still can't lift those

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I made it!

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The light world is so much easier

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FlitterLttP sent MapMM to Dessy-SMZ3 (Bottle Merchant)
FlitterLttP found their Magic Mirror (Blind's Hideout - Far Left)

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FlitterLttP sent Small Key (Catfish's Maw) to DrRomLADX (Kakariko Well - Right)

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Sneaky motherfucker

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I barely noticed it before leaving

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FlitterLttP sent Bolero of Fire to FlitterOoT (Kakariko Shop Center)

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 1:57 PM

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izzystare

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as if I didn't have enough of the game unlocked

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 1:59 PM

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That's always convenient to have even if you pretend you don't have it logicwise

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 2:20 PM

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midnight depot Still can't lift those

think you dash into those with pegasus boots

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 2:21 PM

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I will give it a try

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Word on the archipelago server is that due to emergency maintenance some checks may have been lost

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 2:35 PM

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I haven't been following my text client that closely but it feels like at least most of my checks made it

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now at 55% (started today at ~40%)

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 2:37 PM

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The lost checks might be from the previous maintenance check to this one

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 3:48 PM

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I am finally average rdawwyeah

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 3:51 PM

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did you find anything nice

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 3:51 PM

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Dash

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 3:51 PM

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well, my own dash

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oh boy the server's down again

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 3:51 PM

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one item in 25% of the game?

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 3:51 PM

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I haven't checked the list

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had to keep my focus on ER tracking

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 3:52 PM

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I see I see

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 3:52 PM

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Some people experienced a rollback of Room data and I've now found the reason. In essence, when the server is shutdown it saves all rooms again, but this currently includes the same room multiple times, including earlier incarnations that have long went to sleep. First rooms have already gone to sleep from the last shutdown and probably will roll back up to an hour. To prevent any further damage, I will shutdown the hosting immidiatly and bring it back once this is fixed.

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 3:53 PM

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paissapretty oh yeah, that makes sense, theres a bunch of my checks i got that aren't marked on the server

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 3:53 PM

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Lmao Berserker made a typo

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 3:53 PM

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I noticed that my paper mario tracker thought I could deliver a letter I already had done

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But that was the only thing in all 3 games

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 3:54 PM

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Ixlily sent Bomb to Llisandur (Cliffside Hamlet 09 - Adherent's Letter)
Ixlily sent Dinghy Slide to JayRCT (Twin Spires 21 - Ulv, the Mad Knight)
Ixlily sent Small Key (Color Dungeon) to DrRomLADX (Catacombs 10 - Stagnant Blight x10)
FlitterLttP sent Prawn Suit Fragment to Submega (Sewers - Secret Room - Left)
Ixlily found their Dash (White Parish 07 - Cliffside Hamlet Youth)
Ixlily sent Treasure Chart 18 to Toon Arti (Catacombs 23 - Guardian Silva)
Ixlily sent Small Key Ring (Fire Temple) to FlitterOoT (Twin Spires 11 - Stagnant Blight x30)
Ixlily sent Small Key Ring (Bottom of the Well) to FlitterOoT (Cliffside Hamlet 09 - Hamlet Request 1)
Ixlily sent Vehicle Upgrade Console to Submega (Stockade 05_2 - Stagnant Blight x10)
Ixlily sent Boss Key (Water Temple) to FlitterOoT (Witch's Thicket 06 - Fungal Sorcerer)
Ixlily sent Small Key (Face Shrine) to DrRomLADX (Twin Spires 01 - Fallen Sentinel)
Ixlily sent Cyclops Hull Fragment to Submega (Twin Spires 12 - Forsaken Fellwyrm)
Ixlily sent Gravity Suit to Dessy-SM (Stockade 13 - Slip of Paper)
Ixlily sent Bow to kr?t (Ruined Castle 04 - Report from a Verboten Mage)
Ixlily sent Phantom to Dessy-FF6WC (Witch's Thicket 12 - Amulet Fragment)

along with the usual strawberries, power stars, energy tanks, etc that aren't worth individually mentioning

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 3:54 PM

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Treasure chart 18????????????????????

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 3:54 PM

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I'm gonna keep going despite the server weirdness since I'm on a roll, and the more of the map I have charted the easier it is to go back and double-check any room that might have a check we're worried about

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plus I think this implementation is decent enough to auto-resync when the server comes back

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:09 PM

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Server should be back

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 4:12 PM

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there we go, a bunch of items

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midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:13 PM

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There's a third wallet?!

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I already bought everything in every shop

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 4:14 PM

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now you can hoard wealth like a dragon

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 4:14 PM

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I'm not seeing a surge of items from my slot...

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grabbing a new one works, but only shows the one

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seems likely something did get lost

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:15 PM

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Ah

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 4:15 PM

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I think I saw somebody's shadow temple key go by? don't remember anything else important

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:15 PM

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How would we even assemble a list of what was missed?

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 4:15 PM

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I don't think we can

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 4:16 PM

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My oot tracker is missing all the stuff i got today now

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 4:16 PM

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does it send them if you boot them game?

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 4:16 PM

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generally if the mod is keeping track of what hasn't been sent yet, it would just auto-send when the connection comes back anyway

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 4:16 PM

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fresh hill May 19, 2024, 4:16 PM

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I did try restarting the game

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 4:16 PM

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I cleared ganons castle

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:16 PM

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There are games where getting a check sends the missing ones in your save. There are games where checks are sent on reload, and so on

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 4:17 PM

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is there a command to recheck? i'm sure i saw something like that before

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 4:17 PM

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(ftr my mod writes all checked locations to a local save file and auto-resyncs them all on reconnect)

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 4:17 PM

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though it may have been for ootmm

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:17 PM

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fierce vale is there a command to recheck? i'm sure i saw something like that before

No game agnostic commands

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 4:17 PM

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yeah I think AP mods just do it automatically when they know how to, there's not really a place for a manual version of it

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 4:18 PM

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looks like everything sent again when I launched

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:19 PM

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If we get stuck, I'll go through the spoiler log manually and mark essential items that got missed. For now, If you played today or yesterday and the server did not resend checks for you, please list places you remember going to.

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 4:20 PM

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ah, ok, the poptracker for EL is syncing with the game mod directly as well as the AP server, so that's an easy way for me to confirm any specific locations

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all 3 of the unchecked hinted locations in my world are fine, I have genuinely not found them yet

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 4:21 PM

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paper mario sent everything again

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Toon Arti sent Progressive Glove to FlitterLttP (Dragon Roost Island - Sunken Treasure)

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FlitterLttP sent Magical Seed to Paper Arti (Graveyard Cave)

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Wind Waker for some reason sent two out of 3

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It did not send Zeldas Lullaby to you

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so you have to cheat that

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Sounds good to me

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 4:24 PM

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Magical Seed is very important

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I think I need one more to unlock chapter six

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:28 PM

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FlitterLttP sent Snatcher's Contract - Queen Vanessa's Manor to A Chip in Time (King's Tomb)

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 4:28 PM

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how do you copy paste from the client

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 4:28 PM

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double-click

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 4:29 PM

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I dont want to type out Lightweight High Capacity Tank

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Toon Arti sent Lightweight High Capacity Tank to Submega (Six-Eye Reef - Sunken Treasure)

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 4:30 PM

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midnight depot `FlitterLttP sent Snatcher's Contract - Queen Vanessa's Manor to A Chip in Time ...

catJam 1 more level available, will it be good or will it be terribad

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 4:32 PM

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im thinking

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it has my master sword

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(good item)

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:32 PM

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One of us always tells the truth

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One of us always likes peanut butter

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FlitterLttP sent Shovel to Ixbird (Mushroom)

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 4:38 PM

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paissapretty neveermind i dont get anything bonus atm for the contract, need portraits i think

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 4:39 PM

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aw

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FlitterLttP sent Blue Key to Paper Arti (Ganons Tower - Hope Room - Left)

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 5:00 PM

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Bro what the hell is blue key

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 5:00 PM

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That's what I'm saying

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fresh hill May 19, 2024, 5:06 PM

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oh Flitter, I finally found the guy with your Ancient Woods key

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 5:06 PM

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thanks sign

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 5:08 PM

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Thanks!

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 5:09 PM

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FIRST TRY

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usually he's the 2nd boss so not a big deal, but I'm running with unusual ~~weapons~~ spirits and at this point I've fought nearly every other boss so he's way higher level than usual

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 5:10 PM

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Thanks. I'm going to switch to MS in a little bit

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I'm wiping a lot of the light world clean

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 5:20 PM

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What does the blue square on the master sword mean

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 5:21 PM

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Probably that you can peek it

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I have no clue how

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 5:23 PM

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ok I'm totally bombing on this next boss, I think 72% (plus whatever got lost on the server) will have to be my stopping point for today

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 5:23 PM

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I will stop here for now too

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No longer in last place!

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 5:24 PM

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this is what 72% looks like

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now for something far more relaxing: Crow Country

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 5:38 PM

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I need to get up at 3AM this Tuesday to pick someone up from the airport so let me do a little Monster Sanctuary and then work on shifting my sleep schedule

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With the ancient woods key I can access the goblin area of ancient woods

cold valve May 19, 2024, 5:57 PM

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let's see if i got anything in this kerfuffle

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 5:57 PM

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It looks like the rollback affected my game. Checks are not sent

cold valve May 19, 2024, 5:58 PM

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i got one at least

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 5:58 PM

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That's FlitterMS sent Progressive Bow to Toon Arti (Magma Chamber - Legendary Keeper Room - Mozzie Reward 1) and FlitterMS sent Cyclops Hull Fragment to Submega (Stronghold Dungeon - Jail Hidden Area) @weary lagoon and @lament tusk if you have not gotten these checks let me know so I can admin send you another copy.

cold valve May 19, 2024, 5:59 PM

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it seems magpie tracks dungeon keyholes now

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but i already opened some before it updated

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so i have to keep manually setting those as checked

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looks like i can do some color dungeon stuff

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 6:00 PM

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I see

cold valve May 19, 2024, 6:07 PM

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DrRomLADX sent HeartContainer to Dessy-SMZ3 (Bullshit Room (Color Dungeon))

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yeah there's a bullshit room. it's bullshit

fresh hill May 19, 2024, 6:07 PM

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nice

cold valve May 19, 2024, 6:08 PM

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one more key and i can beat the color dungeon boss. it's the only dungeon that doesn't require the feather

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actually level 3 doesn't to beat the boss, but there's other checks in there that do

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 6:09 PM

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Turns out, Horizon Beach is locked by story

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It doesn't let you proceed until you beat the goblin king, which means I gotta wait for yet another ancient woods key

cold valve May 19, 2024, 6:19 PM

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weary lagoon Kratta usually only plays on weekends but hasn't been around for this one 😔

kratta appears to be at seaquestriafest right now, which would explain it

lament tusk May 19, 2024, 6:27 PM

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weary lagoon Bro what the hell is blue key

You use it to unlock the door of the inside of the blue house in toad Town, it unlocks a shortcut to the sewers and some warp pipes

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Sry ping

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 6:55 PM

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naaah that is the warehouse key

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bluueee keeey is for the iiiiceee palaaacee

lament tusk May 19, 2024, 6:59 PM

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Oh I'm so sorry
I genuinely thought it was for that

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 7:03 PM

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its allright as izzy always says

lament tusk May 19, 2024, 7:04 PM

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I must have thought ot was called the blue house because of the blue house skip, forgot it actually had an in game name

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 7:52 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to DrRomLADX (DMC Great Fairy Reward)

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Cheat console: sending "Zeldas Lullaby" to FlitterOoT

lament tusk May 19, 2024, 7:54 PM

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Hax

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 7:59 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to DrRomLADX (Bottom of the Well Underwater Left Chest)

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FlitterOoT sent Ancient Woods key to FlitterMS (Bottom of the Well Underwater Front Chest)

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FlitterOoT sent Nightmare Key (Bottle Grotto) to DrRomLADX (Bottom of the Well Center Skulltula Chest)

cold valve May 19, 2024, 8:05 PM

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woo

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 8:24 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Slime Key to DrRomLADX (ZF Great Fairy Reward)

lament tusk May 19, 2024, 8:39 PM

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i have the prawnsuit which tecnically lets me go much deeper underwater, its also the worst way to do long range navigation
the game is designed around flying though the water, not plodding slowly on the massively uneven ground

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tldr, i need this:

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 8:43 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Bathroom Trap to JayRCT (Water Temple Central Pillar Chest)

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This trap is out of logic, don't get it

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 8:44 PM

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lament tusk tldr, i need this:

What about the cyclops hull fragment?

dawn wigeon May 19, 2024, 8:44 PM

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midnight depot Still can't lift those

You dash these, not lift

lament tusk May 19, 2024, 8:44 PM

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already have 3

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 8:44 PM

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Oh good

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 8:44 PM

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dawn wigeon You dash these, not lift

Thanks! Dashing did indeed work

dawn wigeon May 19, 2024, 8:45 PM

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Oh someone else said it

lament tusk May 19, 2024, 8:46 PM

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do you even dash bro

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 8:48 PM

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dawn wigeon Oh someone else said it

Me when the teacher says at the end of the test "If you went this far before reading anything, just flip your sheet and wait instead of doing the questions."

dawn wigeon May 19, 2024, 8:49 PM

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Yeah I just caught up on the past 24 hours

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I haven't touched it in a while, but it looks like I can goal SM now so I think I'll try that

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 8:51 PM

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Progressive Hookshot is at Forgotten World - Caves Study in FlitterMS's World. (not found) need this to fight morpha

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Unless I can do this https://youtu.be/K4BUyBosTrk

YouTube

ZeldaSpeedRuns

OoT: Get to Water Temple Boss Room with Hammer Boost

For more information, please visit: http://zelda.speedruns.com/oot/dungeon-tricks/water-temple#reach-the-boss-door-room-without-longshot

▶ Play video

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Easy game

lament tusk May 19, 2024, 8:57 PM

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hax

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 8:59 PM

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fierce vale probably these one

Done this one FlitterOoT sent Relic (Burger Cushion) to A Chip in Time (Water Temple Morpha Heart)
(Forgotten World is a bit later)

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 8:59 PM

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catJam

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 9:00 PM

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Shooting the sun yields the legendary GREG

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Ice Arrows is at Jabu Jabus Belly GS Lobby Basement Upper in kr?t's World at KF Outside Deku Tree -> Deku Tree Lobby. (not found)

dawn wigeon May 19, 2024, 9:07 PM

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You can ignore my Ice Beam hint BTW I just wanted to see if it was in my world since it will make Tourian faster

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 9:07 PM

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Of course

dawn wigeon May 19, 2024, 9:13 PM

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Oh I'm dumb I forgot I set my goal to 100% not to all bosses

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I might still be able to do that though

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There's at least one check that's out of logic but I have the skill for it

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(plasma beam)

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 9:20 PM

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Meganought is feasting on these ice traps

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That's all of fire temple

lament tusk May 19, 2024, 9:31 PM

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look its summer ok? its hot

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 9:32 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Giant Seed to FlitterMS (Shadow Temple Invisible Floormaster Chest)

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I should add the manager's room (this check) to my list of priority checks

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Requiem of Spirit is at Fire Temple Volvagia Heart in kr?t's World at ZF Ice Ledge -> Ice Cavern Beginning. (not found)

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OoT is in BK mode. Next time I'm going to play a short hike

dawn wigeon May 19, 2024, 9:43 PM

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Yeah prob not doing 100% in again, it's not good for sync, and for async I still am releasing in the same day, just with 30 minutes of dumb tricks added on

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Plus it's not the greatest when you have Screw and Plasma removed from the seed since Plasma room will always be out of logic in that case

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Actually I guess not due to the teleport you get

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 9:45 PM

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That makes sense

dawn wigeon May 19, 2024, 9:47 PM

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TBH SM isn't a terribly good async game for me

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It's 3easy5me

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So I'm BK'd for two weeks straight, then come back and goal it

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 9:48 PM

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I can't stand the sound design in Super Metroid

dawn wigeon May 19, 2024, 9:48 PM

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100%, release does nothing lol

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 9:50 PM

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Well done

dawn wigeon May 19, 2024, 9:50 PM

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Dessy-SM sent Propulsion Cannon Fragment to Submega (Super Missile (Gold Torizo))
Dessy-SM sent Treasure Chart 40 to Toon Arti (Energy Tank, Firefleas)
Dessy-SM sent Mobile Vehicle Bay Fragment to Submega (Missile (lower Norfair near Wave Beam))
Dessy-SM sent Triforce Shard 1 to Toon Arti (Missile (green Maridia shinespark))
Dessy-SM sent Bombchus (20) to Arti (Super Missile (yellow Maridia))
Dessy-SM sent scenery to JayRCT (Energy Tank, Mama turtle)
Dessy-SM sent Star Piece to Paper Arti (Space Jump)
Dessy-SM sent Octo Chart to Toon Arti (Super Missile (pink Maridia))
Dessy-SM sent Bombchus (10) to Arti (Spring Ball)
Dessy-SM sent Piece of Heart to FlitterOoT (Missile (left Maridia sand pit room))

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3 games down, 1 to go

midnight depot May 19, 2024, 9:51 PM

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We're now a quarter done

dawn wigeon May 19, 2024, 9:56 PM

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SMZ3 has some checks out but will have to wait until later

fierce vale May 19, 2024, 10:16 PM

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HatPensive alas i'm only at 60% but i legit thinking 90% of those checks are behind the painting checks from here ~~unless they got got and i didn't notice~~

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CoolCat i shall check again tommorow

cold valve May 19, 2024, 10:19 PM

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DrRomLADX sent Progressive Sword to Toon Arti (Under Armos Cave (Southern Face Shrine)) @weary lagoon

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thanks for slime key for that

weary lagoon May 19, 2024, 10:23 PM

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i need kratta to get my mirror shield to get the painting

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or someone to find the toy train

fresh hill May 20, 2024, 1:30 AM

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fun fact: Archipelago internally uses "PonyORM" for the server's database operations. Apparently they've been having enough issues with it that they're seriously considering forking it.

The strawman name they're using for this hypothetical-for-now fork is "Epona".

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 6:49 AM

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midnight depot That's `FlitterMS sent Progressive Bow to Toon Arti (Magma Chamber - Legendary K...

I have the light arrows in the game, the pop tracker doesn't know that I have them though.

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but that shouldnt be a problem.

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 6:49 AM

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That's good

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 7:01 AM

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damn

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need people to get me oot items so I can get song of storms so I can do water temple so I can open chapter six

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Dunno how many checks Flitter has left but it's gonna be rough for me timing wise if all 3 of my games are stuck until next weekend

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Paper Mario is on 0/7 star spirits, both Zelda games have several entire dungeons left

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 7:42 AM

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I have plenty of checks left, especially in a link to the past

fierce vale May 20, 2024, 7:42 AM

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@weary lagoon paissapretty do either of these help

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 7:44 AM

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storeroom key is 4 checks

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ill pick those up while waiting for my bread to cool

fierce vale May 20, 2024, 7:45 AM

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🙏 also 5 bombs the most important drop

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 7:47 AM

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wow, toy train in vanilla location

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 7:48 AM

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fierce vale <@95579032485105664> <:paissapretty:660922666420666409> do either of these help

yes

fierce vale May 20, 2024, 7:48 AM

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namazu_burn the unstoppable artichip power team

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 7:50 AM

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i know that your painting is one of those 38

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 7:50 AM

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Goofy ass font

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 7:55 AM

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found it

fierce vale May 20, 2024, 7:57 AM

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big

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CoolCat i have more checks available but thats later me's job

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 8:12 AM

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thats one out of seven

lament tusk May 20, 2024, 8:28 AM

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Yey

fresh hill May 20, 2024, 10:31 AM

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AHiT just got merged, so it should be a supported game whenever AP 0.4.7 comes out

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 10:32 AM

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This is going to change everything!

fresh hill May 20, 2024, 12:48 PM

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the server issues are sadly ongoing so I'm gonna not touch Ender Lilies until I hear good news

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 4:03 PM

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"Basically, multiworlds that were played between <t:1716208200:f> and <t:1716213600:f> are likely to have been affected"

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Let's play A Short Hike

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 4:04 PM

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Nice I was at the gym then

lament tusk May 20, 2024, 4:04 PM

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i dont think iw as playing then

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not getting any checks at least

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 4:06 PM

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I DID miss a chest

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Train relic for chip

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return camping permit, complete boating challenge, return wristwatch

fresh hill May 20, 2024, 4:13 PM

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fortunately our asyncs are long enough that there was little to be reset in that timeframe

cold valve May 20, 2024, 4:16 PM

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I know there's a camping permit in my level 5, but i still need feather and hookshot to get it

fresh hill May 20, 2024, 4:18 PM

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for now I'm gonna play more Crow Country and work on my mod, but I'm feeling like starting a final push to BK my EL slot later

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 4:23 PM

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Let's play a Link to the Past

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 4:42 PM

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Please get a different sign I beg of you

cold valve May 20, 2024, 4:43 PM

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Oh my

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 4:47 PM

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What's about to happen:
Room hosting will be stopped.
Another backup will be made.
I will start a script that reads all the log files for item send notifications and issues commands to /send_location  them  through the admin console automatically.
Room hosting will be started  again, and rooms should start working through those commands.
???
Profit (Location checks  should be restored.)```

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FlitterLttP sent Nayrus Love to kr?t (Blacksmith)

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Ah, the script worked

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...Worked too well

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I got the wrong checks

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Ah yep, the script is broken. He's undoing it

weary lagoon May 20, 2024, 5:26 PM

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ooh thanks for the magic seed i cant get yet

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 5:27 PM

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Yeah, things are fucked

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Would be best to wait

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So, current state as far as I can see: Some rooms got lucky, they still exist and most  if not all their location checks will be restored as well.  Other rooms got entirely wiped out.```

fresh hill May 20, 2024, 5:41 PM

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our room appears to be toast?

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 5:42 PM

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That would be unfortunate

tender pelican May 20, 2024, 5:43 PM

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Ah, yes. Java memory issues. One of the many problems with Java.

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 5:44 PM

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I never run out of memory when writing java programs. The trick is to forget that time complexity exists

cold valve May 20, 2024, 5:48 PM

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So is our game kaput?

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 5:49 PM

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Maybe!

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Let's sit tight and let Berserker worry about it for us

lament tusk May 20, 2024, 5:58 PM

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Tbh it felt like we were a bit stuck

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Oh well

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 5:58 PM

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That was mostly me picking Inverted on my first lttp randomizer

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I vastly understimated how much harder it is

lament tusk May 20, 2024, 5:58 PM

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Ah yeah

fierce vale May 20, 2024, 6:02 PM

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i had just unlocked a bunch of checks

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prob like 30-40% of my remaining checks

fresh hill May 20, 2024, 6:15 PM

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my world jumping from 5% available to 70+% available probably didn't help either

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if we are toast, but the servers stabilize for real today, think we'd just take a break until June 1st or maybe try to do a smaller one-week game?

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 6:20 PM

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I'd rather do a longer game of forty days or two games of twenty days, but I'll gauge preference. Word on the archipelago server is it might take until Wednesday to determine for sure if this problem is solvable

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 6:36 PM

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Yeah okay things are fucked

wet field May 20, 2024, 7:29 PM

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Damn what happened while I was at Seaquestriafest?

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 7:32 PM

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Here's a summary:
1- Server ran out of memory because of a bug with the mechanism that takes rooms down and back up.
2- A fix was implemented, but another bug caused a rollback of some checks.
3- A fix was implemented, but the fix malfunctioned because of a bad backup, deleting even more checks.
4- A fix was implemented, but the alternative backup also failed, deleting entire rooms.
5- A Berserker (owner and host) said "Fuck all of that, I'm doing things myself."

wet field May 20, 2024, 7:35 PM

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OOF

fierce vale May 20, 2024, 7:37 PM

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awwyeah we won through an out of bounds tech

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 7:43 PM

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For now the game room is deleted and if it's not back by Thursday we'll have to cancel and plan for next month

lament tusk May 20, 2024, 9:39 PM

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we could do oot/mm? thats doesnt use the archipaeligo servers?

midnight depot May 20, 2024, 9:41 PM

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Lmao

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That would take longer than starting a whole new game from scratch

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However we could just play a short sync game while we wait to see if the may game can be recovered

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Something really short like a short hike, oot with zoomy settings,

cold valve May 20, 2024, 9:48 PM

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I can still do ladx as a sync game lol

midnight depot May 21, 2024, 9:19 AM

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Experimenting with a new archipelago game

midnight depot May 21, 2024, 10:27 AM

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Unlocking areas out of order in this game can really fuck with you unless you're using the option that scales enemies to your level

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I somehow made it to a state where it's impossible to grind EXP because I couldn't beat any single enemy

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So the only thing I could do was farm plants to sell and then buy gear

weary lagoon May 21, 2024, 1:51 PM

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someone mentioned the greatest randomizer of all time ootmm?

midnight depot May 21, 2024, 10:37 PM

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All right. It doesn't look like we're gonna get the game back in time to finish by the end of May, so I guess the best thing to do here will be to simply cancel the game and start a June game

wet field May 21, 2024, 11:11 PM

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Alright

lament tusk May 21, 2024, 11:17 PM

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Aight

midnight depot May 21, 2024, 11:19 PM

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With that in mind, I'm going to write a closing announcement as usual

cold valve May 21, 2024, 11:42 PM

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RIP my feather

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 12:00 AM

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Thank you for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago for May 2024. I will have to call this game off on account of room data being deleted due to a catastrophic error on Archipelago's side. We had twenty games with @cold valve, @clear summit, @wet field, @midnight depot, @weary lagoon, @lament tusk, @fresh hill, @dawn wigeon, @tender pelican, @fierce vale as players (in order of who received their last check in the playthrough file) with 49 spheres and 6336 locations total. Included are the spoiler log and the output zip and all player YAMLs.

📎 AP_01239016491137635012_Spoiler.txt 📎 AP_01239016491137635012.zip 📎 May2024.7z

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Hello, @here! I'm starting another Manechat Asynchronous Archipelago Game, with the intent of running until the end of June. If you're interested, please read the list of available games https://archipelago.gg/games and pick one or more games to run, then ping me so I can keep track of you and help you out with any problems. (Unsupported games are also OK.)
The game will start May 30th or whenever everyone interested is ready. Last month's players are invited. If you're not interested in running this month please let me know. Also, @orchid aspen is invited if they still want to run Pokemon!

In order to join, I will need the YAML files for whatever games you want to play. Talk to me if you have any questions or concerns.

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I'll start with my own Crosscode game

📎 CrossCode.yaml

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And of course I'll include Ocarina of Time.

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Instead of running a short hike, I'll run a second, faster ocarina of time.

tender pelican May 22, 2024, 1:35 AM

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I hope I don't regret trying Link's Awakening.

📎 LlisandurFF1_2994D567_AsXFNNXs.yaml 📎 LlisandurMQ.yaml 📎 LlisandurLADX.yaml

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 1:45 AM

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Have you played Link's Awakening before? You have time before we start to try a quick seed

tender pelican May 22, 2024, 1:46 AM

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Yes, but not with a randomizer. Shouldn't be too hard, unless it gets stuck.

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 1:47 AM

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Should be fine. We have Dr. Romulus who knows the game

tender pelican May 22, 2024, 1:47 AM

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Yup, I was going to poke him for a tracker.

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 1:49 AM

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The game comes with an autotracker in the client

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Magpie

tender pelican May 22, 2024, 1:50 AM

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Oh, cool. That will be easier, since I'll most likely be playing on a Linux machine and the trackers I found are for Windows.

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 2:00 AM

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Oh, also see this

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The YAML used to pick random games for the big async

📎 mystery.yaml

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 2:42 AM

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Everything seems to generate correctly with these files

cold valve May 22, 2024, 3:00 AM

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@midnight depot i turned off dungeon shuffle, but left on entrance shuffle, so that all the dungeon checks are still behind keys/shenanigans instead of like in the trendy game. i also turned on extra warp points and removed the instruments from priority locations since i'm not shuffling those anyway

📎 DrRomLADX.yaml

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 3:00 AM

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Thanks

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Seems to generate!

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For my fourth game, I could do a short hike, openRCT2, Ocarina of Time, or nothing

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There's a really cool custom scenario that's super thin and long

cold valve May 22, 2024, 3:23 AM

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i think i like doing just the one game, i just hope i don't get blocked as long this time. it's not a big deal if i do though

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 3:29 AM

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Doing just the one game is fine. I'll make sure not to pick something I can't play regularly

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 11:37 AM

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I was thinking AHiT because of the new tracker updates, maybe OW because I haven't actually played a full game of that in ages despite all my dev work, unsure if I'd add a third

fierce vale May 22, 2024, 11:47 AM

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mewGiggle alas june-july are busy months for me

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 12:29 PM

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hm, the 30th is in a week... yeah I should be able to finish at least an early draft of DB layout rando and orbit rando by then, maybe not publicly releasable but good enough for to me to play with

cold valve May 22, 2024, 1:33 PM

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Maybe i can do outer wilds too

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I'll have to go look at the checks

clear summit May 22, 2024, 2:05 PM

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I'm out for this month

wet field May 22, 2024, 2:17 PM

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Maybe this is the month I do a ds3 sl1 run

dawn wigeon May 22, 2024, 3:00 PM

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tender pelican Oh, cool. That will be easier, since I'll most likely be playing on a Linux mach...

Poptracker is cross-platform, but the LADX package for it sucks

tender pelican May 22, 2024, 3:08 PM

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dawn wigeon Poptracker is cross-platform, but the LADX package for it sucks

I downloaded that to take a look at it, but I couldn't figure out where to get the tracker packs.

dawn wigeon May 22, 2024, 3:16 PM

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I just look on the poptracker discord for them

weary lagoon May 22, 2024, 3:22 PM

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ill decide closer to may 30th

lament tusk May 22, 2024, 3:23 PM

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I'll decide May 31st

dawn wigeon May 22, 2024, 3:23 PM

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I won't be joining in this one this time

lament tusk May 22, 2024, 3:23 PM

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Might try raft, been meaning to do it

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 4:24 PM

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wet field Maybe this is the month I do a ds3 sl1 run

I hope you won't struggle too hard

wet field May 22, 2024, 4:27 PM

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I wouldn't do the DLC

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Soul of cinder is brutal af, but pretty much all the other bosses are reasonably doable

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 4:30 PM

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When I did it I got stuck at the abyss watchers

wet field May 22, 2024, 5:21 PM

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It's not an easy run

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 5:58 PM

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All right. Let's do a roundup of RSVPs. Dr. Romulus: Ready. Jay: Declined. Kratta: Accepted. Flitter: That's me. Artiks: Pending. Meganought: Pending. Ixrec: Accepted. Dessyreqt: Declined. Llisandur: Ready. Chip: Declined. Bringina: Declined.

orchid aspen May 22, 2024, 6:01 PM

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i mulled it over, but i think ill decline. thanks for that ping earlier, though

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 6:04 PM

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That's unfortunate. If you're ever interested again feel free to mention it in the future and I'll be happy to help

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 6:23 PM

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Okay. Let me see if I can set up openrct2 custom scenarios in AP

cold valve May 22, 2024, 7:18 PM

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I may add outer wilds once I get a chance to see what that involves

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 7:23 PM

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Looks like custom scenario support is lacking and I don't want to do the work, so I'm not running openrct2 again

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 8:03 PM

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I'm thinking AHiT, Psychonauts and Outer Wilds this month; those games all have significant updates since I last played them here, and none of them should be particularly taxing for me
(AHiT's act rando is nothing compared to Tunic or EL's ER, especially with the new AHiT tracker, and the only other update for me is a Tunic ER tracker)

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if Rom does want to play OW: I'm sending Flitter the 0.2.0 .apworld, i.e. the latest release

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(I don't know when I'll finish 0.2.1, but even if it's before the 30th I won't use it for this)

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:07 PM

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Oh, about linking gold skulltula tokens in OoT. How do you feel that went compared to the previous times you played OoT, @weary lagoon, @wet field and @lament tusk?

lament tusk May 22, 2024, 8:08 PM

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I think when I found skull tokens, I was finding two each time

weary lagoon May 22, 2024, 8:08 PM

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Minor inconvenience because I got two item get animations whenever I found one in OoT.

lament tusk May 22, 2024, 8:08 PM

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But tbh I don't think it really impacted gameplay at all

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:08 PM

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True.

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Well it would impact gameplay most if you had priority checks set

lament tusk May 22, 2024, 8:09 PM

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Wdym?

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:09 PM

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Since the goal of linking them is to reduce the number of items marked progression

weary lagoon May 22, 2024, 8:09 PM

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but I dont play with those so it doesnt matter to me

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whatever is fine

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:09 PM

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We had 100 progression items in the room instead of 400.

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I see

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If it's not too much of a hassle, I think linking them is fine, then.

lament tusk May 22, 2024, 8:10 PM

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I guess
But it didn't really change anything because none of the skull rewards were worth anything
Again

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 8:11 PM

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I definitely felt like my worlds were not spammed with GSTs this time

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:11 PM

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Right, the point is that you won't have to do a hard check that you set as priority only to be rewarded with a gold skulltula token for someone else

lament tusk May 22, 2024, 8:12 PM

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I suppose it doesn't hurt either

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:13 PM

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It looks like generation fails now, and it points to @cold valve's game. I swear generation didn't fail yesterday when I tried Dr. Romulus's YAML.

cold valve May 22, 2024, 8:15 PM

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I'll check it out when i get home

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I probably fucked up something when deleting text

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Most likely in the priority checks

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Because it got "K" when it wanted a number

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:18 PM

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Yes. That's what I figured as well. I'll investigate myself in a moment

wet field May 22, 2024, 8:22 PM

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midnight depot Oh, about linking gold skulltula tokens in OoT. How do you feel that went compar...

It made priority checks more likely to not be GSTs, which was nice

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:49 PM

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cold valve I'll check it out when i get home

I noticed you set shuffle_maps: random shuffle_compasses: random shuffle_stone_beaks: random
Any reason these are on random instead of any world or a specific setting?

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I have went through your YAML file with a fine tooth comb and it's all correct

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...It works fine now

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 8:57 PM

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did the failed output mention the seed?

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:57 PM

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I swapped catfish maw and key cavern heart containers in the priority list and now it works

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:58 PM

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fresh hill did the failed output mention the seed?

Not sure. Is there a way I could find the log file for the failed output?

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Yes

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Here it is

📎 message.txt

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 8:59 PM

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ok cool that does have it

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I'm pretty sure there's a way to explicitly pass a seed to the generator for reproducing gen bugs

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 8:59 PM

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Where should I report it?

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:00 PM

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ArchipelagoGenerate.py --seed 123456 apparently

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well first make sure you can reproduce

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then see if the other games are required, or if LADX alone has this problem

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:00 PM

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Yeah

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:01 PM

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if it is LADX alone, then in the AP server... I guess either the LADX channel or a #tech-support thread? actually #tech-support thread might be best since you'd have to post the yaml and that log and everything

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:03 PM

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Where's archipelagogenerate.py? Can I run the same argument on archipelagogenerate.exe?

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:04 PM

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derp

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sure try it on the exe

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I've never done this either

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:04 PM

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Okay. I'll investigate and report

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:04 PM

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are you using AP 0.4.6?

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:06 PM

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Yes

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It seems to generate with the same seed and the old file

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...What went wrong then?

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Oh wait there it is

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fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:07 PM

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phew

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:08 PM

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Now let's generate solo and see what goes wrong

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It works!

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So the cause is not Dr. Romulus's file, but someone else's

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:08 PM

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or it's a combination of multiple games

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:08 PM

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Yeah, I'll do binary search and figure out which ones

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:09 PM

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in theory, every game gets its own unique prng, so removing one game shouldn't affect the meaning of the seed for every other game (unless some are still using the legacy shared prng)

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so if this is reproducible at all then it should be reproducible with exactly the games that are interacting badly

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:10 PM

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OoT is crazy

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Adding it to the list of games multiplies generation time by more than five

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:11 PM

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are people ERing it? I've always heard OoT ER is special when it comes to gen times

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:12 PM

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I have it set to enable all forms of ER at a random chance for each

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Hmmm

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Each player individually, when combined with Dr. Romulus's YAML, does not break the game

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Let's try two players:
Ixrec and Llisandur, Ixrec and Flitter, Flitter and Llisandur.

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:13 PM

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I am weirdly hyped to find out what ludicrously obscure combo bug we just found lol

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I would take the full game and remove players one by one

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:14 PM

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But I love copy pasting

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Removing OoT causes it to generate fine

dawn wigeon May 22, 2024, 9:17 PM

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cold valve I may add outer wilds once I get a chance to see what that involves

I for sure recommend doing outer wilds, we can do a sync later if you want to test

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:18 PM

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Removing crosscode instead also makes it generate. Is it some sort of collission issue where some sort of list is overfilled?

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:19 PM

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this is gonna be wild

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definitely #tech-support

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:19 PM

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I'll go through the process a few more times to see if removing any one game fixes the problem

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:20 PM

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...wtf is this droppedkey.py file doing

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:21 PM

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Removing MS works too.

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Removing a hat in time also fixes the issue

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So it's likely that all of these games combined and the seed are causing it to fail

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I'll collect all the relevant files and make a tech support post

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:23 PM

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I may not understand this code but I'm 90% sure the failure has something to do with STONE_BEAK, and the K you see in the error is the last letter of that string

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was rom's yaml posted here or in dms?

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:24 PM

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Here

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📎 DrRomLADX.yaml

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It has shuffle stone beaks set to random

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Which probably indicates one of the options is the one that causes it

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The options are original_dungeon: 50 own_dungeons: 0 own_world: 0 any_world: 0 different_world: 0

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Let's try a couple of them

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Original dungeon works.

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different world works

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Any world works

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Let me make the tech support post

cold valve May 22, 2024, 9:43 PM

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I specialize in unearthing rare bugs

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:44 PM

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Okay. What should I include?

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YAML files, Seed number, APworlds

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Log file

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:44 PM

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considering how brittle this appears to be, yeah all of that

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AP version

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that might be it?

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:44 PM

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Is there a place I can definitively find which AP version it is?

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The log file, I guess

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:45 PM

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good question

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:45 PM

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[root at 2024-05-22 23:07:24,926]: Archipelago Version 0.4.6 - Seed: 94746040492985684210

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 9:45 PM

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[root at 2024-05-22 23:07:24,760]: Archipelago (0.4.6) logging initialized on Windows-10-10.0.19045-SP0 running Python 3.11.5

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yeah that's solid

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python version too

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 9:55 PM

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Done https://discord.com/channels/731205301247803413/1242958770519146568

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Let's see if anyone with more expertise is curious enough to look into it. Meanwhile, I can just generate with a different seed to solve the problem.

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So apparently, this happens under the following conditions

dawn wigeon May 22, 2024, 10:09 PM

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You should do the thing where you start with all the maps, compasses, and stone beaks since those are all garbage items 😛

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 10:09 PM

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1- You have multiple LADX games.
2- One of which has stone keys in other worlds.
3- One of these stone beaks lands on one of your dropped keys

cold valve May 22, 2024, 10:10 PM

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Interesting

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 10:11 PM

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So to prevent it, everyone can set stone beaks to own_world, own_dungeon, or original_dungeon

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Or I can just reroll if the bug happens

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 10:11 PM

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I guess this is the risk of rom games trying to patch in behavior for items from their own game

cold valve May 22, 2024, 10:11 PM

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You can set mine to own_world

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 10:11 PM

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probably better to reroll, it seems like quite the corner case

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or that

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I wonder if own_world makes it more likely to get a stone beak in the bad locations, and it's just this specific seed happens to only do it with a remote beak

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 10:12 PM

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I assume if it's your own world there's already a check to avoid placing it in bad locations

cold valve May 22, 2024, 10:13 PM

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I think it won't put your own beak in a bad location, only other LADX beaks

fresh hill May 22, 2024, 10:13 PM

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I get the impression this isn't meant to be a bad location, just a bug that only applies to local items

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 10:13 PM

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That makes sense too

tender pelican May 22, 2024, 10:14 PM

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You can edit mine to own world if you want, to reduce errors.

midnight depot May 22, 2024, 10:20 PM

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Seems to generate just fine with both set to own world

wet field May 23, 2024, 1:47 AM

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@midnight depot here's my ds3 yaml. I set it to hint the banner on start

📎 kratta_eats_glass_onstage.yaml

fierce vale May 23, 2024, 5:59 AM

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mewGiggle a good call

midnight depot May 23, 2024, 9:33 PM

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Hi. My final exams for this semester start 05-28, so I'd rather start before then if everyone's ready. Right now I have everything except Meganought and Artiks's YAMLs

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Also, perhaps Kratta would like to pick a different name

wet field May 23, 2024, 9:50 PM

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Sigh. You can change it to Swift Reply III

midnight depot May 23, 2024, 9:51 PM

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Sorry

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Is the bot here?

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;pick shitfuck

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No

hearty finchBOT May 23, 2024, 9:52 PM

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[1 result] [Id# 4028273] https://manebooru.art/images/4028273

Manebooru

thebigstuff89

#4028273 - safe, artist:thebigstuff89, species:pegasus, species:pon...

midnight depot May 23, 2024, 9:52 PM

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Oh it is

lament tusk May 23, 2024, 9:52 PM

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Yeah I've changed my mind, I'm gonna tap out of this one

midnight depot May 23, 2024, 9:52 PM

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That's unfortunate. Hope to see you next time

shy oyster May 23, 2024, 9:57 PM

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SHITFUCK

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 10:15 AM

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Hi.

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Just checking up. Is:
1- Dr. Romulus going to try Outer Wilds this month?
2- Artiks picking something to play?
We can start whenever these checkboxes are filled.

weary lagoon May 24, 2024, 12:05 PM

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im not joining if you want to start now

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Im too busy until may 31st

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dont wait for me though, even after that I have so many other games I want to play that I was thinking about skipping June anyway

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 12:08 PM

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Hmm. If we wait I'd have to wait until June 6th since I have exams.

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I guess you're right. I hope you play with us the month after

weary lagoon May 24, 2024, 12:09 PM

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Probably!

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good old teacher summer vacation all of july 😎 so I can bring 5 games

cold valve May 24, 2024, 12:34 PM

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I won't play OW this month

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 12:34 PM

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Ah very well

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In that case when I'm done with my walk I could generate and host the game

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 1:23 PM

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All right, let's do last minute checks

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Dr. Romulus: We made sure the YAML works.
Me: I'm not adding a fourth game.
Ixrec: Seems good.
Kratta: I hope the SL1 run works out, but you're a lot better than me at the game.
Llisandur: I didn't check the FF1 YAML because it comes in the stupid FF1r format.

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And that's everyone. I'll adjust the settings and hit generate

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 1:27 PM

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Yes, I'm curious how it works since I already have the rom generated.

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 1:29 PM

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Did you not run a test game?

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 1:29 PM

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I did, I meant how it works with the multiworld.

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 1:30 PM

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Yes I mean did you not run a test game as a solo archipelago to see if you can receive and send items?

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 1:31 PM

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Oh. No, I just followed the instructions to set everything up. Worked last time.

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 1:31 PM

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All right. Let's hope everything works as expected

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 1:31 PM

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Yup.

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 1:32 PM

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The game is up, with @tender pelican, @cold valve, @fresh hill @Shitfuck, and @midnight depot as players.

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https://archipelago.gg/room/lgvI8zn7SSehy21ZOD4z9w

Archipelago

Multiworld lgvI8zn7SSehy21ZOD4z9w

11 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 52956

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 1:34 PM

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oh hi

cold valve May 24, 2024, 1:34 PM

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cloudybouncefast

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 1:34 PM

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right, lemme get to a stopping point in the MLP game and then I'll make sure my three games are working

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 1:34 PM

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Ixrec's file

📎 AP-57600606914934427214-P7-Ixnaut_0.4.6.zip

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 1:34 PM

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and- yeah that thanks

cold valve May 24, 2024, 1:35 PM

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I can't play for 10 hours or so

lament tusk May 24, 2024, 1:35 PM

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I can't play for a month and 6 days or so

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 1:35 PM

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Don't worry about playing

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Ixrec: Are randomized eye of the universe coordinates part of the spoiler or part of the settings?

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Let's be safe and not include them

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Here are the settings that generated for each player, in case anyone used weighted settings:

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📎 message.txt

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The relevant settings for me:

Ganon's Trials Count:            4
huffle Interior Entrances:      Off
Shuffle Grotto/Grave Entrances:  No
Shuffle Dungeon Entrances:       All
Shuffle Overworld Entrances:     No
MQ Dungeon Count:                0

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Easy settings this month!

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 1:42 PM

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midnight depot Ixrec: Are randomized eye of the universe coordinates part of the spoiler or par...

randomize_coordinates is the option the player sets, the actual randomly generated coordinates are also added to the spoiler log in addition to what the player put for randomize_coordinates (that's why there's a blank line between it and the player options)

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 1:42 PM

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I see

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Kokiri sword for me

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Nomai Warp Codes for Ixrec

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Tornado Aerodynamics Adjustments for Ixrec

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And BowWow for Llisandur

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That's BK mode

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Biggoron sword for me

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I didn't even have to read the automatic hint

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FlitterMS sent Purple Bolt Shade to FlitterCC (Mountain Path - East Vertical 3)

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This isn't even useful. It's one of two keys for a dungeon in the third quarter of the game.

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FlitterMS sent Small Key (Color Dungeon) to DrRomLADX (Mountain Path - East Vertical 2)

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Bow for me

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:04 PM

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right after I got to a stopping point someone sent me a pull request for my mod: https://github.com/Ixrec/Archipelago/pull/1

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but I'm done taking care of that now

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:04 PM

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Yo that's pull request 1

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:05 PM

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yeah, first time someone did a PR to my fork of AP, instead of PRing my mod repo (or a non-coder asking for a logic change)

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:07 PM

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Toilet of Doom Contract, Shrine Door Codes for Ixrec

lament tusk May 24, 2024, 2:07 PM

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fresh hill yeah, first time someone did a PR to my fork of AP, instead of PRing my mod repo...

Mmm those are words

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:07 PM

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they sure are

wet field May 24, 2024, 2:09 PM

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I love language

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:10 PM

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Titanite Scale for shitfuck

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:10 PM

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lol I forgot AHiT has its own AP client

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...and it's failing to connect

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ugh

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:12 PM

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Oh

lament tusk May 24, 2024, 2:14 PM

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I should have submitted a subnautica game this month
Oh well

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:16 PM

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yeah I can't get this working

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:16 PM

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There's always next month

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:16 PM

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I'll check the other two games

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:16 PM

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Do you know what's up with a hat in time?

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:16 PM

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no idea

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already posted in their channel

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:16 PM

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Says in the text client that you connected once

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:17 PM

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yes, it connected to AP, but not to its client proxy thingy

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:17 PM

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I see

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FlitterMS sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to DrRomLADX (Mountain Path - Old Buran 3)
FlitterMS sent Relic (Chocolate Cake Slice) to Ixhat (Mountain Path - Old Buran 2)

wet field May 24, 2024, 2:18 PM

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Sl1 ds3 should be more interesting than regular for archipelago, since there are a good handful of specific items that are particularly useful for sl1 that I'll want to get

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Faith ring and tears of denial, for instance

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:19 PM

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Oh yeah you get early access to equipment since it's a randomizer

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Zelda's Lullaby for me

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Gold Leaf for Dr. Romulus

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:21 PM

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Psychonauts appears to be working fine

wet field May 24, 2024, 2:21 PM

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midnight depot Oh yeah you get early access to equipment since it's a randomizer

The only important non-rando item is gonna be the dragonslayers axe

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Very useful weapon for bosses that are weak to lightning (soul of cinder!)

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:22 PM

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Small lothric banner for shitfuck

wet field May 24, 2024, 2:23 PM

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sunnypog

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:24 PM

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Outer Wilds seems fine, and wow that's the first check? I literally haven't pressed any buttons yet cadancewheeze

wet field May 24, 2024, 2:24 PM

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wet field The only important non-rando item is gonna be the dragonslayers axe

But actually I think you need the dex ring to use it, so it's effectively "randomized"

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:24 PM

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so only AHiT is in trouble

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wow my Timber Hearth Village is loaded

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ok that's the usual intro bit done

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AHiT was my fault, I forgot you have to launch it from a special .exe

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:31 PM

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Mikhail's brain for Ixrec

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That makes sense

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:31 PM

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that would explain why I didn't have any of the save files from our previous games

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actually let's clean these up

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Hat Kid screaming repeatedly

cold valve May 24, 2024, 2:32 PM

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opascrem

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:33 PM

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IT'S CONNECTED

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ok false alarm all my games work

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 2:33 PM

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Bizhawk says it has a Linux version, but that's a damn lie.

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:33 PM

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including the one that's actually mine

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:35 PM

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tender pelican Bizhawk says it has a Linux version, but that's a damn lie.

Does it not? I run into people trying to play Ocarina of Time using Bizhawk on linux all the time

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 2:35 PM

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It requires Mono and runs the Windows exe.

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Or it requires building from source.

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:35 PM

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Right, that part is true. It's not native

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:36 PM

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sweet, that update to make AHiT not always start in Mafia Town is working!

my start is in the Mafia Town Time Rift rdwut

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:37 PM

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Most of the issues Linux OoT players run into are translation layer issues

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 2:38 PM

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I'd just use Retroarch but FF1 requires Bizhawk.

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:43 PM

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Ixhat sent Wave to FlitterCC (Mafia of Cooks - Page: Beside Red Building) Thanks for Wave Element

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I have four elements. Fire, Ice, Lightning and Wave.

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:48 PM

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Ixhat sent Silent Running Mode to IxrecOW (Mafia of Cooks - Page: Fish Pile)
already!?
I was hoping I'd have DB layout rando fixed before this...

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lol this seed, it technically isn't giving me a forced Mafia Town start, but only very technically rdwut

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:49 PM

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And this game is blocked too

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I'll come back for OoT later

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:50 PM

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I was originally planning to BK AHiT but now I'm not sure

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right, I need to test the new tracker now that I'm no longer worried about technical issues

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it's everything I ever wanted starlightbeam

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:52 PM

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I wonder if the performance problems are universal to poptracker or just a short hike related

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:52 PM

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iirc when you found that issue and I did some testing I found a few other packs with oddly high numbers but ASH was the peak?

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though I've never noticed problems in practice on my machine, it may just be unnoticeable because I usually have a whole video game next to it

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:54 PM

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For me it's causing the game to lag even when poptracker is minimized

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I don't have a discrete GPU which poses an issue with 3D games

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:54 PM

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makes sense

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I wonder if poptracker uses the GPU

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shop time

fierce vale May 24, 2024, 2:55 PM

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twiveryinlove oh my stars that is way better than the old version

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:55 PM

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@cold valve @midnight depot how important are these?

[Hint]: DrRomLADX's Small Key (Color Dungeon) is at Badge Seller - Item 1 in Ixhat's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterCC's Mine Master Key is at Badge Seller - Item 3 in Ixhat's World. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Bomb Bag is at Badge Seller - Item 5 in Ixhat's World. (not found)

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:56 PM

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fierce vale <:twiveryinlove:678727071312117770> oh my stars that is way better than the old ...

and supposedly it fully understands act rando now, or at least way closer than before

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 2:56 PM

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Bomb bag is super nice. Mine master key will be essential for progress later but not now

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 2:57 PM

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yep, Nyakuza Metro has a bunch of green squares, it's aware I can get there

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I think color dungeon key is also a "doesn't matter until you get there" thing

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so let's do bomb bag for now

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Rom will have to settle for Flippers

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 3:06 PM

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Ixhat sent Progressive Strength Upgrade to FlitterOoT (Mafia Town - Beach Patio) Thanks

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Why are circuit overrides marked progression? They're literally useless

cold valve May 24, 2024, 3:33 PM

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fresh hill <@221742476153716736> <@68799960375623680> how important are these? > [Hint]: Dr...

Not very, at the moment

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I'll need that eventually, but I'll have to find the color dungeon first, and it's probably behind a different dungeon's entrance key

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 3:34 PM

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cool

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I'll probably buy out the shop 2nd session anyway

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sphere 1 was so open this seed

cold valve May 24, 2024, 3:36 PM

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fresh hill iirc when you found that issue and I did some testing I found a few other packs ...

Lol ASH was the peak. Get it? Cuz you climb a mountain

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gummyleaves

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 3:42 PM

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ok that's chapter 2 telescope complete except for Metro

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unless Metro contains five time pieces, that should be BK

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now for more shops pipp13cansofenergydrinks

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wow most of these are my own items

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 3:53 PM

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I like finding my own items with a little bit of other people's peppered in

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 3:59 PM

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okay, I believe that is every accessible Metro shop checked

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ignoring my own items for now, nearly every progression item was an LADX key for some reason

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@cold valve @tender pelican @midnight depot for feedback on all of my sphere 1 shop items

[Hint]: DrRomLADX's Scale is at Main Station Thug C - Item 1 in Ixhat's World at Picture Perfect. (not found)
[Hint]: LlisandurLADX's Small Key (Turtle Rock) is at Main Station Thug C - Item 2 in Ixhat's World at Picture Perfect. (not found)
[Hint]: DrRomLADX's Small Key (Key Cavern) is at Yellow Overpass Thug B - Item 3 in Ixhat's World at Picture Perfect. (not found)
[Hint]: LlisandurLADX's Small Key (Bottle Grotto) is at Yellow Overpass Thug A - Item 3 in Ixhat's World at Picture Perfect. (not found)
didn't autohint but LlisandurLADX's Compass (Catfish's Maw) sounds maybe useful?
[Hint]: LlisandurMQ's Sun Coin is at Green Clean Station Thug A - Item 2 in Ixhat's World at Picture Perfect. (not found)
[Hint]: DrRomLADX's Nightmare Key (Eagle's Tower) is at Green Clean Station Thug A - Item 3 in Ixhat's World at Picture Perfect. (not found)
[Hint]: FlitterCC's SP Upgrade is at Green Clean Station Thug A - Item 4 in Ixhat's World at Picture Perfect. (not found)
[Hint]: LlisandurLADX's Small Key (Turtle Rock) is at Green Clean Station - Green Ticket Booth in Ixhat's World at Picture Perfect. (not found)

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 4:03 PM

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SP upgrades are nice to have but I can finish the game with zero of them

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 4:06 PM

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Ixhat is now BK'd except for shops, at 14%

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without grinding, I can afford 0-2 of these items at the range of prices they have, so I'll leave my save here without buying any of them in case someone says one of those is a game changer

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Outer Wilds says I have 60 reachable locations, let's do some of that

cold valve May 24, 2024, 4:13 PM

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fresh hill <@221742476153716736> <@123376337212669952> <@68799960375623680> for feedback on...

Nothing i need immediately

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The key cavern key would be desired first, unless i get the hookshot early

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Once i find key cavern i will want that

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 4:33 PM

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Sorry @cold valve, your bombs are 980 rupees. XD

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 4:33 PM

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Steal them

cold valve May 24, 2024, 4:34 PM

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Don't worry about them, i get those from lots of sources

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But if it gets too dicey I'll poke you for them

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And you can't steal until you have a sword

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 4:36 PM

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Yeesh. I got the sword, shield, powder, bombs, bracelet, and rooster just after leaving the house you start in, got the feather and tail key from someone while exploring, and the hookshot was in the first chest of the first dungeon.

cold valve May 24, 2024, 4:36 PM

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Man

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What a lucky fuckin seed you got

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 4:36 PM

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Right?

cold valve May 24, 2024, 4:36 PM

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Last month was a terrible seed for me

tender pelican May 24, 2024, 4:37 PM

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Well, nearly all the items were from other people, but still.

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 4:37 PM

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my seed's felt pretty open so far too

cold valve May 24, 2024, 4:39 PM

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@midnight depot can you check last month's spoiler log and see what sphere my feather was in?

weary lagoon May 24, 2024, 4:41 PM

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4 migattenogokui

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 4:41 PM

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I posted the log

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I'm in bed so you'll have to sift through it yourself

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 4:42 PM

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midnight depot Thank you for joining me in the Manechat Archipelago for May 2024. I will have t...

Here

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 4:42 PM

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aaaaand there's a hookshot

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this seed lol

cold valve May 24, 2024, 4:42 PM

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Can someone link the post, I'm on mobile and search is ass

weary lagoon May 24, 2024, 4:43 PM

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its sphere 15.

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out of 49

cold valve May 24, 2024, 4:43 PM

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Thanks

weary lagoon May 24, 2024, 4:43 PM

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cold valve May 24, 2024, 4:44 PM

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So i was gonna finish last lol

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Sphere 15 seems like it should have been gotten to by the time we crashed

weary lagoon May 24, 2024, 4:44 PM

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yeah in the last 3 spheres its you, me and kratta still playing

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 4:45 PM

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#1119170161518334004 message

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The order of pings is who gets their stuff last

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 4:45 PM

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cold valve Sphere 15 seems like it should have been gotten to by the time we crashed

It's common that a lot of games take a very different path from the "intended" playthrough

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The spoiler file only shows one potential path for everyone to reach their goal

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 4:46 PM

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that's often an explicit goal of a randomizer

weary lagoon May 24, 2024, 4:46 PM

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it just means your feather was waiting for either flitterlttp or krøt which were the slow games last month

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 4:47 PM

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all right, 41 Outer Wilds locations at the end of ||my first loop|| seems like a perfect place to end my first session

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15.71% apparently, very close to where I BK'd AHiT

cold valve May 24, 2024, 4:50 PM

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Oh i see, parts of sphere 15 could have been held up, it just means there was 15 layers to get the feather from start

fresh hill May 24, 2024, 4:50 PM

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yeah, typically the players' actual behavior in a multiworld only follows the intended playthrough for maybe 1 sphere, if that lol

cold valve May 24, 2024, 4:51 PM

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I'm still figuring out how to read these in the context of the general game as a whole

midnight depot May 24, 2024, 4:53 PM

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Unfortunately I did not keep a log of the game itself

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That would provide context for which checks actually happened in what order

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(the room was deleted)

cold valve May 25, 2024, 12:28 AM

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ok let's play LADX finally

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whoa, thanks for flippers!!

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wow, level 2 bracelet, sword, bombs, shield, and a buttload of keys to start this off

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thanks y'all!

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lightning blade for shitfuck

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staff+2 for flitterms

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shard for llisandur

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gold beetle for flitter

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lucid shard for flitter

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 12:51 AM

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It's okay, I only care about +4 and +5 gear

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I finished crosscode but most item names still sound like nothing to me

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If I recall correctly you need five golden beetles for a quest

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And lucid shards are junk

cold valve May 25, 2024, 12:54 AM

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rare seashell for flitterms

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 12:55 AM

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Need three

cold valve May 25, 2024, 1:00 AM

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saria's song for flitteroot

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 1:06 AM

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That one's great. Thanks!

cold valve May 25, 2024, 1:09 AM

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@midnight depot do you need phoenix serum for MS? it's 980 rupees in my shop

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longsword for llisanderff1

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 1:11 AM

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Nah

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It's just a phoenix down

cold valve May 25, 2024, 1:21 AM

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druid soul for flitterms

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goron tunic for flitteroot

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 1:23 AM

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Evolution item. I'll be able to use druid soul when I get to ancient woods

cold valve May 25, 2024, 1:26 AM

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o2 cap upgrade for ixow

shy oyster May 25, 2024, 1:27 AM

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ive finally been upgraded

cold valve May 25, 2024, 1:27 AM

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yeah we've got luigi now

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oh right, someone had a scale for me, i can use that whenever now

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summoned sword +4 for flitterms

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 1:30 AM

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Nice, thanks

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Summoned sword boosts non-critical damage. I have a guy who needs that

cold valve May 25, 2024, 1:35 AM

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ancient woods key for flitterms

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thanks for hookshot @wet field

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 1:35 AM

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Thanks. I need like four total

cold valve May 25, 2024, 1:53 AM

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clem's brain for ixnaut

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jailer's keyring for shitfuck

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practically bk'd now, except the armos in the southern shrine which i am not good enough to beat with 3 hearts and only a sword

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 4:45 AM

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Hi

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Let's play OoT

wet field May 25, 2024, 4:46 AM

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gaming

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 4:46 AM

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According to my settings, dungeon entrances are randomized and nothing else

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Oh wow I didn't know your cat was trans

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First item

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Thanks for Kokiri Sword, Biggoron Sword, Bow, Zelda's lullaby, bomb bag, strength, hylian shield, bolero of fire, epona's song, big wallet, hookshot, saria's song, goron's tunic, ganon's castle boss key, magic beans, water temple small keys, blue fire arrows, water temple boss key, nayru's love, more strength, song of time, bombchus, prelude of light, and one death with ice traps

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Progressive shield and Electrical Insulation for Ixrec, Battle Axe for Llisandur

tender pelican May 25, 2024, 4:57 AM

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BK in FF1. I hinted all the items to progress.

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 4:59 AM

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What a blessed seed

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Shop prices are all 10

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 5:18 AM

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Shitfuck's lightning spear. Pretty sure that one's not useful at SL1

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Gold skulltula rewards: 20 - psicard, 40 - steamer trunk tag

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Haunted Wasteland is foolish

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Sweeter words have never been said

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FlitterOoT sent Rolling Pin to Ixnaut (Market Bazaar Item 5)
FlitterOoT sent Green Leaf Shade to FlitterCC (Market Bazaar Item 7)
FlitterOoT sent Gold Leaf to LlisandurLADX (Market Bazaar Item 6)
FlitterOoT sent Progressive Levitation to Ixnaut (Market Bazaar Item 8)
FlitterOoT sent Small Doll to shitfuck III (Market Potion Shop Item 8)
FlitterOoT sent Escape Pod 3 Signal to IxrecOW (Market Potion Shop Item 7)

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FlitterOoT sent Sky Fragment to LlisandurMQ (Market Bombchu Shop Item 7) 2x
FlitterOoT sent Nightmare Key (Bottle Grotto) to LlisandurLADX (Market Bombchu Shop Item 5)
FlitterOoT sent Flowers to Ixnaut (Market Bombchu Shop Item 8)

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Maroon Cave Pass for me, Two Time Pieces, Priceless Coin for Ixrec

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The priceless coin was ten rupees

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Dodongo's Cavern is water temple

cold valve May 25, 2024, 5:40 AM

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[Hint]: DrRomLADX's Feather is at US: Caduceus Round Shield in shitfuck III's World. (found) @wet field

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gonna hint this one early

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 5:40 AM

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I recall that one's an early check

wet field May 25, 2024, 5:45 AM

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so early I already found it skibidi

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 5:45 AM

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Stupid fucking owl drops me in haunted wasteland

cold valve May 25, 2024, 5:45 AM

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oh wow i can't read

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i gotta actually get past the start screen so it gives me items, i woulda seen it

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in that case the next biggest blocking item would be the boots i tihnk

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 5:48 AM

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Hmm, my tracker seems to be missing a lot of checks

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Lunker handled

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Water temple is ice cavern

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Stupid fucking owl takes me from lake hylia and drops me in Zora's domain

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I can just swim there you moron

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Slingshot is at BH Ship Log: Old Settlement 4 - Abandoned in IxrecOW's World. (not found)

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Ocarina is at Underworld - Draconoir Room in FlitterMS's World. (not found)

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That's BK mode

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Oh I forgot Lon Lon Ranch exists

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 9:31 AM

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Hi. Let's play Crosscode

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Why?

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I keep reading Ixrec OW as Ixre cOW

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 10:17 AM

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I like how this game says "chest not in logic"

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 11:01 AM

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[Hint]: FlitterCC's Blue Ice Shade is at Kak Potion Shop Item 6 in FlitterOoT's World. (not found)

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Needs an Ocarina

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Hmm,

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Timed challenge, no shield challenge, autumn's rise trailblazing subquests all failed to show up

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Sure hope there's nothing important locked behind them

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 12:56 PM

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Let's play MS

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Thanks for double jump boots, ancient woods key, mystical workshop keys, skorch egg, sanctuary token

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BowWow for Dr. Romulus

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Magic meter for me

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Bottle with big poe

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 1:32 PM

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My weird egg!

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Scooter badge for Ixrec

fresh hill May 25, 2024, 2:03 PM

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oh we're at 21% already

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hopefully I can squeeze in some Psychonauts later, but I've got a few movies to watch and I really wanted to play more Laika first

cold valve May 25, 2024, 2:05 PM

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midnight depot I keep reading Ixrec OW as Ixre cOW

Glad I'm not the only one

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 2:05 PM

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It is a month long game. I'm going to take it slow during the final exams soon

fresh hill May 25, 2024, 2:09 PM

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yep, there's always a surge at the start, and I don't need to be above average, but I would like to clear most of my sphere 1s early

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I think in OW I got most of the sphere 1s that aren't more convenient to get later, except on BH, which is fine for how open that starts

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Psychonauts does a level hub thing so it's much more segmented and thus I should be able to BK my first level pretty quickly (even if I don't feel like doing the other level someone unlocked for me)

cold valve May 25, 2024, 2:15 PM

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I always keep myself bk'd

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So far, no AP game I've played LADX in has allowed me to finish significantly early. Sure i might get all the major items relatively early, but I'm heavily blocked by keys later on and i need all 8 dungeons to open the egg

weary lagoon May 25, 2024, 2:17 PM

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I had to start bringing more games because when I only brought one and ixrec and flitter brought 4 I was always in BK

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One is pretty short for a month long game

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 2:18 PM

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You should complain when I bring too many games

cold valve May 25, 2024, 2:18 PM

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What i mean is keeping myself constantly bk'd still lasts me all month

weary lagoon May 25, 2024, 2:19 PM

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No you should bring many games when the schedule is an entire month @midnight depotooni

fresh hill May 25, 2024, 2:19 PM

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yeah, amount of game should be proportional to personal time to play the games, not how much game everyone else brings

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 2:19 PM

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Okay

cold valve May 25, 2024, 2:19 PM

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And i like this being a quick thing to check after work each day

fresh hill May 25, 2024, 2:19 PM

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e.g. every month I do fine-grained ER, I limit it to that game and one easy/chill game, since fine-grained ER is that intense

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but on "normal" months 3-4 games feels about right for me

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more than 4 and I think I'd start losing track of all the setup/tracker stuff going on

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(plus I do think OW is a little too open, one of the goals of the upcoming random spawn feature is to make it possible to play a decent chunk of the rando before being given the spaceship to just fly around wherever)

weary lagoon May 25, 2024, 2:29 PM

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They should do something with ASH too

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 2:32 PM

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Next time I'm naming this guy Krattaturtle

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The mod doesn't support renaming for now

fresh hill May 25, 2024, 2:35 PM

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yeah, it's a much bigger problem in ASH but also no one's got any good ideas for a solution (I raised the topic once in the AP thread just to be sure), and iirc the ASH dev said they consider ASH finished anyway, which I can't really disagree with

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some games are just inherently open

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in OW I can take away your spaceship and there's still a fun game to play there, ASH has no obvious equivalent

weary lagoon May 25, 2024, 2:36 PM

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Are you kidding? The solution is so easy

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Make it A Long Hike

midnight depot May 25, 2024, 2:52 PM

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Let's stop here. Monster Sanctuary still has a lot accessible

cold valve May 25, 2024, 5:28 PM

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lets play some LADX

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thanks for face key, blue tunic, feather, zol attack, heart piece, rupees, bombs upgrade, and small key

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shard for llisandurff1

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another one

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yarn for ixhat

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deep stone for flitterms

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fang+4 for flitterms

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magic rod for llisandur

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manbo's mambo for llisandur

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tamborine+4 for flitterms

cold valve May 25, 2024, 6:34 PM

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@fresh hill all of these except the nightmare key i could use now

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as well as this one, but that will just make things much easier it's not progression if that's a PITA check

tender pelican May 25, 2024, 6:39 PM

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MQ i blocked until I get some for of bombs. But at least this time I have armor. XD

cold valve May 25, 2024, 6:43 PM

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i am re-BK'd

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 3:39 AM

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Let's play OoT

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Thanks for iron boots, thieves hideout key, magic, big poe bottle, weird egg, maps, compasses and hearts

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FlitterOoT sent Star Shade to FlitterCC (Song from Impa)

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FlitterOoT sent Cinders of a Lord - Aldrich to shitfuck III (Song from Saria)

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Bah, I really need that Ocarina but it's nowhere close

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I might spend my next hint to see where the other ocarina is because all my items are unusable without it

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I'm stupid. I forgot Mido's house

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FlitterOoT sent Shock to FlitterCC (KF Midos Top Right Chest)
FlitterOoT sent Time Piece to Ixhat (KF Midos Bottom Left Chest)

wet field May 26, 2024, 4:27 AM

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midnight depot May 26, 2024, 4:34 AM

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took me long enough

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And the prometheus skip because I don't have Din's fire

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And that's the dungeon

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Queen Gohma had jailbreaker's key for shitfuck

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Now I don't have to learn how to skip this guy

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Now, universal tracker seems to think I can get all of these

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I have no clue how to get any of them

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Let's play a game where the checks are easy

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 5:33 AM

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FlitterMS sent Oarsman's Badge to Ixnaut (Snowy Peaks - East - Ledge Chest)

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FlitterMS sent Sky Fragment to LlisandurMQ (Snowy Peaks - West Cave - Ice Orb Chest)

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 6:05 AM

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FlitterMS sent Progressive Sword to LlisandurLADX (Blue Cave - Sun Palace Entrance - Switch Puzzle Chest)
FlitterMS found their Warm Underwear (Blue Cave - Sun Palace Entrance - Ledge Chest)

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That's enough for today

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 1:00 PM

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Let's play Crosscode

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 1:50 PM

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FlitterCC sent Undead Bone Shard to shitfuck III (Bergen Village - Omni Gilders Basement Left (Bronze))

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FlitterCC sent Progressive Wallet to FlitterOoT (Bergen Trail - Off Road 1 Upper)

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FlitterCC sent Lili's Bracelet to Ixnaut (Round and Round - Reward 1)
FlitterCC sent Progressive Invisibility to Ixnaut (Round and Round - Reward 2)
FlitterCC sent Undead Bone Shard to shitfuck III (Round and Round - Reward 3)

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Is Hatbox tag important?

fresh hill May 26, 2024, 2:13 PM

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each Emotional Baggage tag allows me to check one of the Baggage locations

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so not a big deal but it does help

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 2:16 PM

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Okay, good

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I'm softlocked because of a mod bug, so I'll just send that location

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And that's BK mode for crosscode

fresh hill May 26, 2024, 2:48 PM

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let's play Psychonauts

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geez our sphere 1 was loaded, I already have half of my psi powers

fresh hill May 26, 2024, 3:13 PM

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omg I found Sasha's Button already, in my own first level

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(that unlocks most of the overworld)

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this seed

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and that's Waterloo World BK'd, even figured out the yellow square (partially by luck)

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 3:16 PM

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Thanks for Lens of Truth

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and red flame shade

fresh hill May 26, 2024, 3:17 PM

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huh, a lot of yellow squares in Gloria's Theater

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probably gonna leave that to next session

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 3:17 PM

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Red flame shade actually unlocks new checks

fresh hill May 26, 2024, 3:29 PM

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BTE fully cleared

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other than Theater that's it for my mind levels, so let's see how much of overworld I feel like clearing today

fresh hill May 26, 2024, 3:56 PM

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that feels like plenty for now, this slot's at ~~27.75%~~ 30.49%

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the overworld had another of my level-unlocking Brains so that's even more to do next time I'm on this game

fresh hill May 26, 2024, 3:59 PM

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cold valve <@283037539755884554> all of these except the nightmare key i could use now

ah, but I should quickly check how much AHiT money I have before I forget about this again

fresh hill May 26, 2024, 3:59 PM

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cold valve as well as this one, but that will just make things much easier it's not progres...

(this one's not reachable until I find the Subcon Well entrance)

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I have a silly amount of money

fresh hill May 26, 2024, 4:09 PM

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cold valve <@283037539755884554> all of these except the nightmare key i could use now

bought all four

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looks like I had just enough money to buy every progression item that wasn't mine, plus one or two of mine

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(all three of my slots are wide open atm so buying my own stuff wouldn't do much)

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so, what were the highlights of all that...

Flitter:

Ixnaut sent Red Flame Shade to FlitterCC ((WW Main) The Fireplace)
Ixnaut sent Lens of Truth to FlitterOoT ((WW Main) Help the Knight)
Ixnaut sent Cold to FlitterCC ((CA Lab) Upper Ledge)
Ixnaut sent Magma Chamber key to FlitterMS ((CA GPC) Branch Swinging Course Start)
Ixnaut sent Shard of Winter to FlitterMS ((CA GPC) Branch Swinging Course Mid)
Ixnaut sent Boomerang to FlitterOoT ((CA Main) Under Lodge Front Steps)
and shopping:
Ixhat sent Mine Master Key to FlitterCC (Badge Seller - Item 3)
Ixhat sent SP Upgrade to FlitterCC (Green Clean Station Thug A - Item 4)

@tender pelican you said you were waiting for bombs, right?

Ixnaut sent Mobius Crest to LlisandurMQ ((WW Main) Help the Carpenter)
Ixnaut sent Bomb to LlisandurMQ ((WW Main) Top of Knight's House)
Ixnaut sent Progressive Shield to LlisandurLADX ((WW Main) Top of Villager 2's House)
Ixnaut sent Dragon Claw to LlisandurMQ ((WW Main) Castle Wall)
Ixnaut sent Ocarina to LlisandurLADX ((WW Main) Castle Inside)
Ixnaut sent Sky Fragment to LlisandurMQ ((BT Main) Outside Caravan)
Ixnaut sent Bird Key to LlisandurLADX ((BT Main) Shadow Monster Path)
Ixnaut sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 ((BT Main) Forest Path Blue Mushrooms)
Ixnaut sent Sea Lily's Bell to LlisandurLADX ((CA Lab) Behind Furniture)
Ixnaut sent Seashell to LlisandurLADX ((CA Reception) Weird Tree Right)
Ixnaut sent Seashell to LlisandurLADX ((CA Main) Tree Platform Left)
Ixnaut sent Sky Fragment to LlisandurMQ ((Rank) PSI Rank 20)
and shopping:
Ixhat sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to LlisandurLADX (Main Station Thug C - Item 2)
Ixhat sent Sun Coin to LlisandurMQ (Green Clean Station Thug A - Item 2)
Ixhat sent Small Key (Turtle Rock) to LlisandurLADX (Green Clean Station - Green Ticket Booth)
Ixhat sent Small Key (Bottle Grotto) to LlisandurLADX (Yellow Overpass Thug A - Item 3)

Rom:

Ixnaut sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to DrRomLADX ((WW Main) Small Arch Below)
Ixnaut sent Rooster to DrRomLADX ((CA Lab) Staircase Ledges)
Ixnaut sent Magic Powder to DrRomLADX ((CA Reception) Log Hill Behind)
and shopping:
Ixhat sent Scale to DrRomLADX (Main Station Thug C - Item 1)
Ixhat sent Nightmare Key (Eagle's Tower) to DrRomLADX (Green Clean Station Thug A - Item 3)
Ixhat sent Small Key (Key Cavern) to DrRomLADX (Yellow Overpass Thug B - Item 3)
Ixhat sent Small Key (Color Dungeon) to DrRomLADX (Badge Seller - Item 1)

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 4:26 PM

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Ooh, master key, cold, boomerang are all great

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I really need heat and it's the only element I don't have

wet field May 26, 2024, 4:43 PM

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Yooo, now flitter can get my dreamchasers ashes, right?

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 4:46 PM

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Where are they?

wet field May 26, 2024, 4:54 PM

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Lon lon ranch, I think the back wall gold skulltula

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It'll let me buy titanite shards and kick off the sirris quest

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 4:56 PM

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I'll get it when I'm back at my computer

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The back wall of the distant shed is adult link only

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The window gold skulltula is boomerang accessible

wet field May 26, 2024, 4:59 PM

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Oof OOF

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Wait no, it spawns as child link

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 5:01 PM

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It does? Universal tracker didn't say it was in logic

wet field May 26, 2024, 5:01 PM

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https://youtu.be/3x4VMx3ugzY

YouTube

Zelda Dungeon

Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time, Gold Skulltulas: Lon Lon Ranch

The locations of all the Gold Skulltulas found in Lon Lon Ranch. The site guide that has the full listing and these videos on it is linked below.

http://www.zeldadungeon.net/Zelda05-ocarina-of-time-gold-skulltulas.php

▶ Play video

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 5:01 PM

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Either way it's in logic now

cold valve May 26, 2024, 6:02 PM

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let's play ladx

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 6:03 PM

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I have like thirty minutes before DnD so let's get Kratta that check

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I'm so happy that the bug checks are technically out of logic

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I don't wanna get rid of my big poe before I can sell him

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It's not there!

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Oh this one

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FlitterOoT sent Dreamchaser's Ashes to shitfuck III (LLR GS Back Wall)

cold valve May 26, 2024, 6:11 PM

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this is probably my next most important item

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 6:11 PM

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You will never find it

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Pretty sure this is an endgame challenge

cold valve May 26, 2024, 6:11 PM

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hmm

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i need that to win though

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can't finish at least 2 dungeons without

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 6:12 PM

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Okay, at a minimum I need the heat element for it

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and I need to finish the temple mine, which I need heat for

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Oh the archipelago website is lagging because of the big async

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[Hint]: FlitterCC's Heat is at Alpine Skyline (Rift) - Page: Below Aqueduct in Ixhat's World at Cheating the Race. (not found)

fresh hill May 26, 2024, 6:18 PM

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hm, only non-Ixhat unfound hint I have is for your slingshot

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is that still important?

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I'm guessing next time I should prioritize AHiT

midnight depot May 26, 2024, 6:19 PM

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Slingshot will be necessary but right now doesn't give me any checks

cold valve May 26, 2024, 6:24 PM

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that's it for now, nothing amazing found today

midnight depot May 27, 2024, 9:11 AM

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Hi

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A Short Hike got an update

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to configure the number of sticks in the item pool
**Toy Shovels**
to configure the number of toy shovels in the item pool
**Random Walkie Talkie**
to choose whether or not the walkie talkie is placed in its vanilla location
**Easier Races**
to add the running shoes as a logical requirement for the races if desired
**Shop Check Logic**
to choose which items are logical requirements for the shops. options are nothing, fishing rod (default), fishing rod and shovel, golden fishing rod, golden fishing rod and shovel
**Minimum Shop Check Application**
to choose the minimum shop cost that the above logic will apply to. options are 40, 100 (default), 400```

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Easier races is a must have for me because it'll mean I get running shoes early instead of always getting them at the end of the seed

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Let's play OoT

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Thanks for stuff I guess. I didn't keep track

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These checks are all stupid

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No way can I reach any of those except the last two

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[Hint]: FlitterOoT's Ocarina is at BH: Riebeck's Surface Campsite Note in IxrecOW's World. (not found)

fresh hill May 27, 2024, 12:21 PM

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well that I can get super easily

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let's play five minutes of OW

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ding @midnight depot

midnight depot May 27, 2024, 12:32 PM

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Thanks

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This allows me to access so many more items

midnight depot May 27, 2024, 2:14 PM

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Let's play OoT

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Thanks for toot machine

midnight depot May 27, 2024, 2:46 PM

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FlitterOoT sent Nightmare Key (Turtle Rock) to DrRomLADX (Sheik in Forest)

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FlitterOoT sent Flippers to LlisandurLADX (Gerudo Training Ground Heavy Block First Chest)

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The classic

fresh hill May 27, 2024, 2:59 PM

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40% and it isn't even June yet

midnight depot May 27, 2024, 3:03 PM

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Good point, I'll stop here for today

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It looks like with only one player, the local gold skulltula tokens option is finally respected

fresh hill May 27, 2024, 4:52 PM

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oooh, sphere-aware hints & web tracker got merged

wet field May 27, 2024, 9:15 PM

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Dying for an item just to find out it's an alluring skull is so disheartening

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that's so much worse than the ice traps

fierce vale May 27, 2024, 9:41 PM

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UraWheeze alluring skulls being used as alluring skulls for the player is always hilarious, especially in the context of a randomiser

cold valve May 29, 2024, 1:42 AM

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let's play ladx

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thanks for stuff!

wet field May 29, 2024, 1:43 AM

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you're welcome

midnight depot May 29, 2024, 7:30 AM

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Let's play Monster Sanctuary

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I started typing Crosscode because it's more fun to type

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Thanks for reward box X, magma chamber key, sanctuary token

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FlitterMS found their Sanctuary Token (Sun Palace - South - Fire Orb Chest)
FlitterMS sent Time Piece to Ixhat (Sun Palace - West - Mount Door Chest)
FlitterMS sent Shard to LlisandurFF1 (Sun Palace - Bex)

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Sun palance six lever puzzle solution for future reference: 1,4,6

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Thanks for finding me the purple outfit

midnight depot May 29, 2024, 8:05 AM

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FlitterMS found their Ancient Woods key (Sun Palace - East Sewers - Underwater Chest)

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FlitterMS sent Small Key (Tail Cave) to DrRomLADX (Snowy Peaks - Oracle)
FlitterMS sent Progressive Marksmanship to Ixnaut (Sun Palace - West Sewers West Hidden Area 1)
FlitterMS sent Magic Meter to FlitterOoT (Sun Palace - West Sewers - Heavy Block Chest)

midnight depot May 29, 2024, 8:52 AM

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FlitterMS sent Cat Claw to LlisandurMQ (Mystical Workshop - South Cog Room - Upper Chest)
FlitterMS sent Stop Sign to Ixnaut (Ancient Woods - West Cliffs)

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That's enough for today

fresh hill May 29, 2024, 10:19 AM

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~~I am on the road crew. This is my stop sign.~~

#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer