Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer | Manechat | Page 37

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 7:56 AM

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Also, I might drop A Short Hike for this month in favor of a game with a smaller sphere one.

dawn wigeon Apr 28, 2024, 8:06 AM

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If you can get it to generate then I'm cool with whatever

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I used a 1.0 english rom to generate but I don't think there's a huge difference between that and 1.1

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 8:09 AM

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Sure

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I'm going to test the newer APworld, and let's hope there aren't any issues

dawn wigeon Apr 28, 2024, 8:10 AM

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I'm sure it'll be fine

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 8:15 AM

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Oh Artiks's WW YAML fails. I probably need to update that APworld

weary lagoon Apr 28, 2024, 8:15 AM

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📎 tww.apworld

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delete the old ww one

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 8:21 AM

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Okay. Now I need a super metroid ROM. Let's see if I have mine

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It generates!

weary lagoon Apr 28, 2024, 8:29 AM

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did my WW start with items work according to the log

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 8:29 AM

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Still calculating playthrough, but I'll check the log

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Game:                            The Wind Waker
Progression Balancing:           50
Accessibility:                   Items
Local Items:                     
Not Local Items:                 
Start Inventory:                 Wind Waker: 1, Ballad of Gales: 1, Wind's Requiem: 1, DRC Dungeon Map: 1, DRC Compass: 1, FW Dungeon Map: 1, FW Compass: 1, TotG Dungeon Map: 1, TotG Compass: 1, FF Dungeon Map: 1, FF Compass: 1, ET Dungeon Map: 1, ET Compass: 1, WT Dungeon Map: 1, WT Compass: 1```

clear summit Apr 28, 2024, 8:39 AM

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Oh Flitter, can you pin this?

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I wanted to check the unofficially supported games list

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And I had to look up for that link

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 8:40 AM

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clear summit Apr 28, 2024, 8:40 AM

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thx

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 8:41 AM

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You're welcome

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Yep. Looks like WW starts with items properly

clear summit Apr 28, 2024, 8:41 AM

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I have a few games that are 'unofficially supported', but I have to check again to see if I want to run any of them

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I probably don't want to do, for example, Lethal Company

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 8:42 AM

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Yeah, just because a game has an apworld doesn't mean it'll be good to randomize

clear summit Apr 28, 2024, 8:43 AM

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Bloons TD 6 I don't know if it would be fun, and also I don't want to run mods on my main account so I have to make a mod-account

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Brotato and Hades are roguelikes so meh

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 8:43 AM

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Factorio

clear summit Apr 28, 2024, 8:43 AM

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I will think about it if they make it easier to run

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The setup looked horrifying

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Rabi-Ribi looks promising, but that game is eternally stuck in my wishlist so maybe when it gets a discount

weary lagoon Apr 28, 2024, 9:00 AM

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btd6 is in AP? sounds fun for another timer

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 9:02 AM

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I'm unsure how you can make BTD6 last a month

weary lagoon Apr 28, 2024, 9:06 AM

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well it would be a side game like a short hike

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 9:06 AM

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I guess that makes sense

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 2:10 PM

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@shy oyster we're starting the new month's game this Wednesday. You said you might join with a Link to the Past. Do you need any help setting it up?

shy oyster Apr 28, 2024, 2:30 PM

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i dont think im gonna play this month

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 2:33 PM

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Got it. I'd love to play with you again whenever you feel up to it

weary lagoon Apr 28, 2024, 3:28 PM

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But theres Mario games..

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I was surprised to see Sunshine in some form of playable alpha

midnight depot Apr 28, 2024, 3:54 PM

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The vanilla sunshine is a playable alpha even without a randomizer

tender pelican Apr 28, 2024, 10:11 PM

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I think I did this correctly.

📎 Llisandur_FFMQ.yaml

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 9:36 AM

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Seems to generate fine with that YAML added.

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We're missing @wet field, @fierce vale and @lament tusk in order to start May's game. Are y'all still joining? I'll need your YAML file by wednesday.

fierce vale Apr 29, 2024, 9:37 AM

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can i put inj the most generic hatty time yaml without testing the new setup method

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 9:37 AM

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Yes

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I'm sure it'll be fine

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 9:41 AM

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Do I need to do anything special for item link oot? I wasn't following along

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 9:42 AM

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I can do it for you

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You just add this block to your YAML (anywhere)

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  item_links:
    - name: GST 
      item_pool:
        - Gold Skulltula Token
      local_items:
        - Gold Skulltula Token
      replacement_item: null```

fierce vale Apr 29, 2024, 9:46 AM

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📎 A.Chip.in.Time.yaml

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@midnight depot

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 9:46 AM

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Thanks!

fierce vale Apr 29, 2024, 9:46 AM

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this has a lot more settings available that last time

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 9:47 AM

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True

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 10:25 AM

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OK I'll do that later, I'm headed out soon

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 10:27 AM

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Have fun

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If you want inspiration, here are the YAMLs we're using this month for OoT

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📎 FlitterOoT.yaml 📎 ArtiksOoT.yaml

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 10:31 AM

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I'll probably recycle the one I used this month, sans beehives

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 10:32 AM

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Oh yeah beehives were a pain without the autotracker

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https://i.imgur.com/gTd4hod.png Save us, Selene. You're our only hope

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cold valve Apr 29, 2024, 12:20 PM

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Turns out magpie does do random entrance tracking, i just had to change a few settings

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:28 PM

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this should be working
same as last time, but removed beehives, added the item link code

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are we just doing oot? if we're doing other games im gonna include subnautica this time because i feel like it

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📎 Submega.yaml

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:31 PM

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This is a normal game

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I have these players so far https://i.imgur.com/dXYQ3BH.png

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lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:31 PM

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ok

fresh hill Apr 29, 2024, 12:31 PM

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I don't think we've ever done an OoT-only game

clear summit Apr 29, 2024, 12:31 PM

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We are getting bigger

fresh hill Apr 29, 2024, 12:31 PM

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unless you count the OoTMM month

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:31 PM

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We should though

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:31 PM

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we did an only oot/mm multiworld rando

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it took 2 months

clear summit Apr 29, 2024, 12:31 PM

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That will be my first OoT playthrough

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maybe

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But with KM which would suck

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:32 PM

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i'd like to do it again, but with less people

clear summit Apr 29, 2024, 12:32 PM

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idk maybe I will buy controllers

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:32 PM

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The biggest problem with OOTMM was the lack of progression balancing

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:33 PM

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lament tusk this should be working same as last time, but removed beehives, added the item l...

exclude_locations: [GF HBA 1500 Points, GF HBA 1000 Points, Graveyard Dampe Race Freestanding PoH]

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You said earlier that you wanted to exclude some slingshot locations too

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:34 PM

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did i?

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:34 PM

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The uh

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Shooting gallery, and the lost woods minigame

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:34 PM

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oh right

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what are those checks called so i can add them?

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there are two shooting galleries

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:35 PM

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Kak Shooting Gallery Reward
Market Shooting Gallery Reward
LW Target in Woods

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:36 PM

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thx

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updated oot yaml

📎 Meganoot.yaml

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:37 PM

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Excellent. Thanks

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Nope. It's broken

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https://i.imgur.com/r33xjMy.png

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lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:40 PM

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well i dont know what part is broken

fresh hill Apr 29, 2024, 12:40 PM

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that sounds like a whitespace mistake?

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:40 PM

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Yes, I figured it out.

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Line 146 is the item links portion, which has too many whitespaces at the start

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:41 PM

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ah

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:41 PM

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I got rid of them and it seems to generate

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:41 PM

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yeah it did generate with extra whitespace but i figured that wouldnt matter

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:41 PM

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YAML is whitespace sensitive

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:42 PM

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well now i know

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and next time, ill forget

weary lagoon Apr 29, 2024, 12:51 PM

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midnight depot The biggest problem with OOTMM was the lack of progression balancing

No it was having 2 people who hadnt played it

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it was fun it just took long

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:52 PM

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i'd happily do it again

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 12:53 PM

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Well for me the biggest pain point was not getting items for the longest time, which is largely the fault of progression balancing

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:55 PM

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that was also player activity

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we had long gaps of players not being able to play

fierce vale Apr 29, 2024, 12:56 PM

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mewGiggle progression balancing was also an issue, i had like a solid week where everyone else was playing and i could do nothing

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though i think it turned out that was partially because someone missed one of my core items

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:58 PM

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i think that might have been me actually? i remember failing to notice i could have gotten a lake skull check as child and it was one of the most important items

weary lagoon Apr 29, 2024, 12:58 PM

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yes

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I cheated and looked at the log and hinted you towards it

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 12:59 PM

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still feel bad about that

weary lagoon Apr 29, 2024, 12:59 PM

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id do it again but it will be in AP eventually

fierce vale Apr 29, 2024, 1:00 PM

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id also do it again, but i would like something in place to keep it to a single month

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 1:00 PM

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we could do it in a weekend if we all knew we had that weekend mostly free for continus gaming

weary lagoon Apr 29, 2024, 1:01 PM

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its too big for a weekend

weary lagoon Apr 29, 2024, 1:01 PM

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fierce vale id also do it again, but i would like *something* in place to keep it to a singl...

everyone knowing the game is enough for that

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 1:02 PM

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Hell yeah, I'm definitely eager to see it coming to archipelago

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 1:03 PM

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i just want them to add MM at all lol

fresh hill Apr 29, 2024, 1:03 PM

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~~maybe someday I'll play MM vanilla~~

lament tusk Apr 29, 2024, 1:04 PM

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you should

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its a great game lol

fresh hill Apr 29, 2024, 1:04 PM

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but I wanna mod Outer Wilds more

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 6:02 PM

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Wait a minute

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https://i.imgur.com/TWMx98B.png I'm missing one YAML file from someone who already submitted

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Nope nevermind. Everyone's actually there

weary lagoon Apr 29, 2024, 6:05 PM

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My Hogans Castle?

midnight depot Apr 29, 2024, 6:05 PM

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You haven't submitted any steve jobs yamls

cold valve Apr 30, 2024, 6:33 AM

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i did a single-player playthrough with my settings, it certainly is interesting. i had to do without bombs for a very long time, and the seed basically forced me to 100% it, which is good because that's kinda what i'm hoping for in the main run

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 1:34 PM

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very excited to get started on this!

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 1:35 PM

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We can start as soon as Kratta gives me a YAML, or declines to play this month, or tomorrow.

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 1:37 PM

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Can't wait for kratta to submit 9 OoT yamls

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 1:37 PM

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One is enough

fierce vale Apr 30, 2024, 1:43 PM

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cant wait for kratta to submit the demondarksouls(1-3)eldenring combo randomiser

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 1:43 PM

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WIN-

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 1:44 PM

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How about Wind Waker + Phantom Hourglass + Spirit Tracks combo randomizer

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 1:46 PM

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its too bad two of those are awful

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Maybe they are fine if the instrument mechanic is deleted on emulator

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 1:47 PM

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OoT+MM+WW+TP+BotW randomizer 🔥

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 1:49 PM

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botw randomomizer sounds awful..

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i have played the TP one its ok but the game isnt built like OoT where items hinder you, story hinders you

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 1:50 PM

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BotW randomizers make additional goals for you before Ganon

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Like get Ravioli's gale+, get 4 hylian shrooms, clear Elephant, things like that

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 1:51 PM

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but the whole world is open

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its not "get boomerang to unlock more stuff" like a good rando

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 1:53 PM

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Yeah, it kinda sucks in such way, the only thing that locks world is paraglider

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But that's super early game

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 1:54 PM

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Can't be worse than Risk of Rain 2

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 1:57 PM

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Roguelike randomizer

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sucks

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I'm not even sure how Brotato randomizer works

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RoR, RoR2, Hades have distinct stages

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So you can be locked

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Brotato is like what

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 1:58 PM

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ASH gets away with its giant sphere 1 by being a tiny and chill game

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BotW would be oof

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 1:58 PM

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what does it do...

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I think BotW randomizer by itself isn't bad

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But it wouldn't work with Archipelago

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 1:59 PM

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yeah, some kind of non-progression randomizer makes perfect sense

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just not the metroidvania-style/progression-based/Archipelago kind of randomizer

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:00 PM

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Archipelago requires the randomizer to be a very specific kind

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maybe not require but better be

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The standard OoT/metroidvania type randomizer that is

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 2:03 PM

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it needs many of the items to block progress, basically

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:04 PM

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Yeah and should be well paced

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not strictly linear

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but linear enough

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 2:05 PM

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maybe you mean "segmented"? linear is definitely not desirable for a rando, you want different runs of the rando to make you visit the content in different orders, so AP randos for linear games typically de-linearize it with a hub world or extra fast travel or something

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:06 PM

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Well kinda. I was thinking of "some stuff is better ordered"

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 2:06 PM

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yeah

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:07 PM

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So like a set of linear segments I guess?

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 2:08 PM

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I guess you could say progress is more like a graph of paths than a wide open plain?

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:09 PM

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Probably something like that yeah

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 2:13 PM

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God

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Now I'm thinking about how rimworld uses a graph of paths to traverse wide open plains

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:14 PM

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rimworld randomizer (essentially just rimworld)

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 2:15 PM

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The algorithm they use breaks the map into nodes and uses some form of path caching to allow hundreds of entities to do pathfinding really quickly

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But it's painfully bad when it comes to making your own colonists find the best path to do things

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:15 PM

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RCT pathfinding mechanism hitchgrim

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 2:16 PM

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RCT pathfinding is not important because you don't want your guests to beeline the most efficient jobs to do and leave

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 2:17 PM

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clear summit rimworld randomizer (essentially just rimworld)

it's kinda fascinating that most games which self-randomize are a poor fit for Archipelago

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:18 PM

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midnight depot RCT pathfinding is not important because you don't want your guests to beeline t...

Yes but also you don't want them to do some insane furry convention in one spot while shouting out "it's too crowded here"

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 2:19 PM

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oh flitter can you add song of passing to my WW start items

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:20 PM

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I'm wondering if any game in my steam library would fit well to Archipelago, regardless of if it has support or not

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 2:20 PM

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Sure

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:20 PM

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Ys series can work I think, maybe

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idk if Chrono Trigger works, I haven't played it for long enough

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Cave Story...?

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I feel like it would be a bit too linear?

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 2:23 PM

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How many games do you have in your library? I feel like most people's libraries are too big to effectively do that

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:23 PM

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My conclusion is that my steam library isn't a great fit for Archipelago

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lol

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149, including random games I picked up just because it was free

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And including idle games

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So my library is very tiny.

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 2:24 PM

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clear summit I'm wondering if any game in my steam library would fit well to Archipelago, reg...

be careful, that's how I realized Outer Wilds would be a good fit

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 2:25 PM

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/428550/Momodora_Reverie_Under_The_Moonlight/

Steam

Momodora: Reverie Under The Moonlight

Momodora: Reverie Under The Moonlight takes the player on a journey through a cursed land on the brink of eradication. Evil spreads, the dead rise, and corruption reigns. Hope is but a faded memory for all but one: a priestess named Kaho from the village of Lun. If only Kaho could somehow gain audience with the Queen, Her Majesty could surely be...

Price

$9.99

Recommendations

9433

Metacritic

82

▶ Play video

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:25 PM

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I don't buy games very often

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I buy only when ~~lightning strikes~~there is a game I want to buy and it is also in a discount

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 2:26 PM

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Cave Story I agree doesn't work, there's too little rearrangeable content and almost no blocking items beyond a couple of keys

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for me it's mostly about when I'm in the mood to play a certain kind of game

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some of the stuff I already bought and tried I just never got around to trying a second time as I'm not in the mood any more; I wouldn't enjoy it even if I forced myself

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:27 PM

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I extremely rarely spend money on stuff.

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 2:28 PM

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Ooh, speaking of sales

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:28 PM

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~~except gacha~~ (I've stopped buying gacha since like a year ago)

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 2:28 PM

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it's easy for me to say I'm not into gacha, but also nobody has ever gacha-fied a game I want to play so it was never a real temptation for me to begin with

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 2:29 PM

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im a proud weeb who never played genshin or honky stars

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 2:29 PM

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closest I've gotten was watching the Arknights and Umamusume animes

clear summit Apr 30, 2024, 2:29 PM

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Yeah it's hard to avoid gacha totally when you've been raised with extreme abundance of gacha and anime

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Ironically I never played Hoyoverse games.

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Although I played like a few dozen games with gacha

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 2:33 PM

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I guess if you include any microtransactions at all, I've probably played several and just completely ignored that aspect, like Dead Space 3

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 7:28 PM

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ah the third Paper Mario AP update this week maybe I should get it

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the dev on that is so crazy active

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 7:29 PM

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~~I'd be more active if I didn't have a day job~~

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 7:37 PM

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You should avoid updating games if you don't have a good reason to

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Once we start, the APworld file I have will be the relevant one for the month

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 7:38 PM

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ok

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Paper Mario is gonna be so crazy good

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 7:38 PM

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(but since we haven't started you can update still, as long as you let me know to update too)

fresh hill Apr 30, 2024, 7:38 PM

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yeah, best time to update is between games

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 7:38 PM

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masterpiece game...

lament tusk Apr 30, 2024, 7:38 PM

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Agreed

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 7:39 PM

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Oh also

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I forgot to add your wind waker item and now I'm in bed

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 7:39 PM

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though I did make it as vanilla as possible so Im going to be in BK mode after 5 minutes of playing until someone finds the hammer.

midnight depot Apr 30, 2024, 7:39 PM

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Can you remind me tomorrow?

weary lagoon Apr 30, 2024, 7:39 PM

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y

wet field Apr 30, 2024, 10:30 PM

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@midnight depot I think I did the item link correctly

📎 kratta_and_ocarina_of_time_together_in_one_archipelago_game.yaml

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 4:48 AM

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remember to give me song of passing flitter

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 7:50 AM

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Good morning

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when are we starting? Im off work for labour day and would love to play

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 8:20 AM

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You going to use the async tracker at https://aptracker.chrishowie.com/ ?

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or nbd?

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:27 AM

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I havent seen that before

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we use this https://archipelago.gg/tracker/mF81PzY6QIy3Glj_WMhQIA

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 8:30 AM

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Yeah so that's the default tracker

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https://aptracker.chrishowie.com/tracker/MQkLLLVbSD6aVOcGniKrhg here's an example async in the other tracker

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It has async specific features, you can claim a game and get pings from the website when hints are found that you can action or whatever you choose

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 8:42 AM

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We're starting in like twenty minutes

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Cheese tracker is nice but I don't like the part where it hooks up to discord

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Let's do some last minute checks

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With 22 games it's a bit harder to make sure every single YAML is good, https://i.imgur.com/mdWXoB9.png

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Hmm

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:51 AM

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does it matter that my paper mario is a txt and everything else is a yaml

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 8:52 AM

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No.

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TXT and YAML are processed the same way, but notepad++ doesn't know to color TXT properly

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The game is up. https://archipelago.gg/room/gmA9C0FnRo2fbf6uUBweCg

Archipelago

Multiworld gmA9C0FnRo2fbf6uUBweCg

22 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 52031

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:04 AM

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Thanks

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Has anyone found my hammer yet?

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 9:05 AM

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Pins updated

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If anyone randomized their settings, the spoiler log says these settings were the ones picked

📎 SPOILER_message.txt

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:07 AM

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Paper Mario has 587 checks...?

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looks like im around 1300

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 9:08 AM

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Oh wow that's a lot

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:08 AM

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yeah I wonder where all those come from

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wonder if its like HK where its counting stuff I didnt shuffle

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Because I did not shuffle overworld coins

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 9:09 AM

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Koopa Koot has like twenty rewards

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:10 AM

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ICANT

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 9:10 AM

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Oh let me ping everyone else so they know they can play

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@fresh hill, @clear summit, @cold valve, @fierce vale, @wet field, @lament tusk The game is up! See pins for details

fierce vale May 1, 2024, 9:11 AM

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🤘

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:13 AM

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hm my tracker thinks im starting in toad town and not goomba village

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good first check

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 9:15 AM

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Looks like in my OoT, I have ```YAML
Rainbow Bridge Requirement: Hearts
Ganon's Trials Count: 5
Shuffle Interior Entrances: Simple
Shuffle Dungeon Entrances: All
Hearts Required for Bridge: 10
MQ Dungeon Count: 2

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:15 AM

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Wow I already got a boots upgrade

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my damage just doubled before I fight an enemy..

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 9:17 AM

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Gold skulltula tokens are linked properly.

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Let's start by playing Monster Sanctuary

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:18 AM

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triforce shard 😅

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Alright, Paper mario in BK mode

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looks like Im on 0.8 out of 10 to hint the hammer

clear summit May 1, 2024, 9:22 AM

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I am now leaving my work so I can play soon™️

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:22 AM

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Im not using steam to play anymore now that I have an xbox controller so my lua shortcut is gone

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wonder if theres another way to make connecting faster

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 9:24 AM

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Oh, just double click the APZ5 file and it'll load the game and lua at the same time

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:24 AM

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no it loads bizhawk and the client

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 9:25 AM

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Okay

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:25 AM

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holy crap I already found ETank

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 9:26 AM

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FlitterMS sent Powder to Dessy-SMZ3

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You could try this option https://i.imgur.com/I2PoqQR.png

Imgur

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:26 AM

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ooh

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thanks, thats kinda helpful right now with no other means to trigger shrubs

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gonna need a wallet for this 1

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@wet field megaton hammer 😎

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they say that a small key can be found at Dessys spiral cave

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@fresh hill is this good

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oh, wallet

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oh, ocarina

clear summit May 1, 2024, 9:45 AM

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We have almost 6000 checks

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I have about 300 cadancewheeze

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 9:46 AM

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Lol

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Big game thus month

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 9:50 AM

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weary lagoon <@283037539755884554> is this good

that's one of the relics (passive buffs, like HK charms); it's one I would use if I got it early but definitely not important

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(I am currently at work, and have OW stuff to do tonight, so probably I'll just do the opening beach of my ASH slot this evening and leave it at that)

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:52 AM

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well its horseback archery so its not gonna be early

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early boomerang for flitter

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Dictionairy Pog

clear summit May 1, 2024, 9:55 AM

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lol

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I was thinking "wow no tree removal is fucking annoying"

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I instantly got the tree removal

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cadancewheeze

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 9:56 AM

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yoo chip found a partner

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:03 AM

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That's it for Monster Sanctuary

clear summit May 1, 2024, 10:05 AM

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Wow

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starting RCT without the Merry-go-round music is so cursed

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:07 AM

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I play with no music

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:10 AM

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time to re learn how to launch wind waker

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:12 AM

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clear summit starting RCT without the Merry-go-round music is so cursed

might as well play OOT without the master sword, ever

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damn we got 22 games running
didnt realise
awesome

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also i just realise i should have called submega meganoughtica instead

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:17 AM

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hm dolphin isnt connecting to AP

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lets try again

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:17 AM

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huh im having the same issue?

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:18 AM

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lament tusk huh im having the same issue?

You're not even using dolphin

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:18 AM

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im in subnautica

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:19 AM

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mines just stuck on this

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:19 AM

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Have you not tested connecting before?

fierce vale May 1, 2024, 10:19 AM

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awwyeah bk'd (ish, i'm not pom farming this early)

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:19 AM

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Not since december gandalfyeah

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:21 AM

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Well it doesn't look like anyone has the same problem as you

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Maybe you're not updated?

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:22 AM

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Dolphin just updated when I launched it

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Updated dolphin 3 days ago and there was another update now

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:23 AM

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lament tusk

Are you connecting to the right room?

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:23 AM

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im 99% sure i am, but ill retry that in a sec

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:23 AM

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weary lagoon Updated dolphin 3 days ago and there was another update now

No I mean updating the APworld and the game

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:23 AM

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decided to get oot working instead incase it was a server issue and it needed to be done anyway

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:24 AM

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yeah I got all the newest stuff 3 days ago.

clear summit May 1, 2024, 10:24 AM

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midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:24 AM

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It's not a server issue. The server is working fine for everyone else

clear summit May 1, 2024, 10:24 AM

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RosaThink

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:25 AM

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clear summit

This is normal and part of what you can expect from the game. You might need to restart the scenario or give it a few minutes or save and load or close the shop window and reopen it.

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:25 AM

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wallet, lense, one death from ice traps, gold rupee, bombchus, GTG and water temple key
great start from everyone, thanks

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:25 AM

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midnight depot It's not a server issue. The server is working fine for everyone else

a server issue on my side i meant

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:25 AM

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But the server is not on your side. You're a client

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:26 AM

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im gonna save and quit oot and try subnautica again then

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maybe i have internet problems!

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or firewall issue

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i dunno

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:26 AM

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OoT connects

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:26 AM

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yeah i didnt know it it would connect till it connected

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thats why i tested it

clear summit May 1, 2024, 10:27 AM

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I save-loaded, it is worse now

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:27 AM

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clear summit

No it's the same. It says zero out of zero because it already got all it wanted

clear summit May 1, 2024, 10:28 AM

#

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But the goal is giga broken

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:28 AM

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Nothing will show up correctly until it's done

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:29 AM

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ok subnautica connected
you were probably right that it was the wrong server

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thanks for making me check

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:30 AM

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I'm glad we didn't have to redo the game

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What about Artiks?

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:30 AM

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oh i forgot to include beehives, sorry we gotta restart everything

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:31 AM

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im working on it

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:31 AM

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lol, im holding the propulsion cannon in the opening cutscene

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oh this... actually might have broken the game

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uh yeah

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it did

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i cant switch to the fire extinguisher because that ability hasnt been unlocked yet

clear summit May 1, 2024, 10:33 AM

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Oh, also is it fine that I see two debug options

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:34 AM

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Not sure. Do you have two copies of the plugin installed?

clear summit May 1, 2024, 10:35 AM

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lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:35 AM

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i had to restart the game but now i dont have the propulsion cannon at all? i dont think i got any of the checks

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oh no

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:35 AM

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It should be fine

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:36 AM

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Alright I got it working

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:36 AM

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ok phew i fixed it

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:36 AM

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I put the lib folder into the lib folder instead of the content of the lib folder into the lib folder

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:36 AM

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You really gotta make sure games work before you submit them for a month long game

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:36 AM

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i restarted the whole game, not just started a new save file. it rechecked the checks

clear summit May 1, 2024, 10:37 AM

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Now everything should be fine as soon as my RCT check shop works...

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:37 AM

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Its ok everything worked out 🙂

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remember when it was all green rupees

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:38 AM

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That looks a lot better

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:39 AM

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clear summit Now everything should be fine as soon as my RCT check shop works...

It's shocking that Colby thought OpenRCT2 is in a good enough state to make a pull request so it's included in the official list of games

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The check shop keeps failing every single time

clear summit May 1, 2024, 10:39 AM

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It did work during our test game, so it should eventually work

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:39 AM

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Yeah, it's fine but it's really annoying

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Oh yeah

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There's been an update you can try

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Also! That thing where your games get stuck at 8/8 or whatever should be fixed, at the expense of some items appearng in game as "undefined"

clear summit May 1, 2024, 10:40 AM

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Interestingly, my game already shows some items "undefined"

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lol

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(It was 3D Cinema)

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:49 AM

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OoT works. Thanks for gerudo membership card, Nayru's love, ocarina, boomerang, water temple key ring, forest temple boss key, shadow temple key ring, deku shield

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:49 AM

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did you die

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Moon pearl!!!

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:53 AM

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oh shit weird egg

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 10:53 AM

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WEIRD EGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From Tingle

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 10:53 AM

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thanks arti

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 10:54 AM

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No deaths from ice traps

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Link to the past works

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:01 AM

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weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:01 AM

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what does that mean..

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:01 AM

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I don't have any food stall

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:02 AM

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A Short Hike also works fine

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:02 AM

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clear summit I don't have any food stall

You're likely to spend the whole game without a food stall because it's not technically required

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:02 AM

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everything in this run is a progression item

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:02 AM

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My unlock shop is still not working

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Wait Ferris Wheel?

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:03 AM

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Pretty much everything in sphere one is a progression item

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:03 AM

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My game hasn't recieved it yet

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:03 AM

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oh it is?

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:03 AM

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clear summit My unlock shop is still not working

You might need to restart again

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:03 AM

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i just got a sphere 0 normal item

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:04 AM

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weary lagoon oh it is?

Sphere 0 is what you start with

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Sphere 1 is items that don't require anything to get.

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:04 AM

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when I read spoiler logs for ootmm, sphere 0 was everything you could do with nothing

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Ok then I got a sphere 1 normal item

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:04 AM

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OoTMM uses different conventions

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So it's possible for you to get junk in sphere 1 but you must get at least enough items to reach sphere 2.

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:05 AM

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lets see if I can win the 40 rupee auction

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:06 AM

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Something is really wrong

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My game is connected but Ferris Wheel never arrived

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:06 AM

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Does the unlock shop show that you can get items now?

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 11:07 AM

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Archipelago defines "sphere 0" as your starting inventory, before anyone has checked any locations yet

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since there are several games which give you random starting items, and the generic start_inventory option

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:07 AM

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midnight depot Does the unlock shop show that you can get items now?

No.

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:08 AM

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Then you should probably focus on that first

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 11:08 AM

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and then "sphere 1" is technically everything you can get with the starting inventory

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:08 AM

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I tried save-load, restarting OpenRCT2, restarting OpenRCT2 Client

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:08 AM

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Did you try starting a new scenario from scratch?

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It takes half an hour or so of trying everything to get OpenRCT2 to connect, but once it does it's fine.

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:09 AM

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I missed 3 rides????

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wtf

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:09 AM

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Don't worry about rides you missed

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Nothing will work until the unlock shop does

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:10 AM

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COLBY

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:10 AM

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This sort of error is not actually critical

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:10 AM

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huh, all my hours of this game and I've never seen this before
techincally a spoiler if you've not played subnautica but not much of one
its ||a peeper actually carrying the cure enzyme, i've just never actually seen one do it||
neat!

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:10 AM

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lol

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:10 AM

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He's just bad at writing errors

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:11 AM

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cadancewheeze

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Ok the unlock shop works for this new scenario

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:11 AM

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Great!

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:11 AM

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lemme see if it works for my park now

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:11 AM

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No, the new scenario is your park now

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:12 AM

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It seems so

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It isn't working for my past park

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:12 AM

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Here's a list of rides you should have access to:

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Wooden Wild Mouse, 3D Cinema, Toilets, Car Ride, Ferris Wheel, another Wooden Wild Mouse.

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(also allow tree removal)

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If you're missing any of those, you can just cheat it into the game through the OpenRCT2 cheat options (the shovel menu)

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Things should work fine from here on out. Just stay on that scenario, remember to save before you quit

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 11:16 AM

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midnight depot He's just bad at writing errors

I probably shouldn't be laughing at these as much as I am

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:16 AM

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Just don't tell him I said that

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Now that I have put out most of the fires, I'm going to do schoolwork because apparently they're closing down the blackboard system for three days of maintenance during the most busy time of the semester

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Please ping me if you run into issues

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 11:18 AM

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I'll be sure to test both of my slots when I get home even if I only play one

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:24 AM

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I find it so funny how Ferris Wheel is literally useless if height limit is enabled

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I can't build it at all

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:26 AM

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Scenarios that have a height limit just don't have a ferris wheel normally

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:26 AM

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Wow it truly made one of the easiest coasters into a trash

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:27 AM

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That's why I don't randomize ride stats

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It can literally result in impossible shop completion

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:27 AM

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Damn

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:27 AM

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Car ride still sucks though

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:28 AM

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It's actually surprisingly good rn

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People are paying to ride it

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:28 AM

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I hope Kratta needs the stone of agony

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the WW mail game is sooo tightly tuned

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:29 AM

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clear summit People are *paying* to ride it

~~of course WWM is making like 3.5 times more money~~

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Oh Car Ride profit just bumped

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Now it's like 2.5 times

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At least I have my kiosk now, so I can make trillion dollars

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nvm

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Car Ride is crushing WWM

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Progressive Scale for Mega, I had to kill people for that

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:39 AM

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nice

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aight done with subnautica for the day. not BK, just been there for a few hours and have a base set up

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:44 AM

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wtf

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Oh shit

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:44 AM

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?

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you ok?

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:45 AM

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I mistook in ASH and pressed continue instead of new game

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f...

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The savefile was 131/131 savefile and instantly sent everything away

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:45 AM

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I guess you can't play this month

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:45 AM

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Didn't even realize that it does that

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:45 AM

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I can't believe the game has no check for that

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Like a unique ID per game

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:46 AM

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I don't mind me losing one game, but I am a bit worried that this will make other games slightly less fun

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:46 AM

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Nothing we can do about that

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:47 AM

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I can see that some of those checks are major progression items. I'm so sorry

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:47 AM

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it would be annoying to start again, but this is literally the best time to do it if we were going to

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:47 AM

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Don't worry about it. Mistakes happen.

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I do not want to go through another attempt at getting OpenRCT2 to work

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:48 AM

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ok fair

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well i might as well see if any of those checks were for me then

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:49 AM

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Somehow you got whopping 3 ice traps from that

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wait is it 4

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:50 AM

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nope nothing important

fierce vale May 1, 2024, 11:50 AM

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i got 7(?) time pieces

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thats like, a crazy amount

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:50 AM

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🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️🙇‍♂️

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:50 AM

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a few but most of my progression checks need 3 finds before they unlock, still a nice boost in progression

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:51 AM

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2 partners and ultra boots in paper mario 🫠

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:51 AM

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just minor things

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:53 AM

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oh well

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at least its only one out of 22

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just boring to get so many big things at once

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:54 AM

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Yeah it's unfortunate

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:54 AM

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kokiri sword, scale, another icetrap death, spirit key, deku stick upgrade
actually not many for me, the sword and scale were before this

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oh and the aformentioned weird egg

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:54 AM

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I really thought it would automatically synchronize to Archi progress

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:55 AM

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Might be worth complaining about on the channel

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:55 AM

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Paper Mario might be playable now if Kooper can break hammer blocks

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dont think so though

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:55 AM

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Also the last month's randomizer was my first ever ASH playthrough so I didn't even realize what I was doing

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:56 AM

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jay its fine, ok?

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its just a game

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you didnt break anything, just made things easier

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just means its probably going to be a shorter game

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none of us are mad

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well arti is mad, but not angry

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:57 AM

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Yeah I just feel awful

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:57 AM

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ponktwihug

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:58 AM

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If you'd like we can definitely try to restart the game. It should go a bit better now that you know what to expect in OpenRCT2

clear summit May 1, 2024, 11:58 AM

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Well

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That would more depend on if people want to restart rather than me

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:58 AM

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Correct

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How about we do a poll?

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:58 AM

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personally id loose like 2 hours of progress tops

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good idea

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 11:59 AM

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@lament tusk @midnight depot @clear summit @fierce vale Do you want to restart?

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:59 AM

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I was gonna do the normal poll

fierce vale May 1, 2024, 12:00 PM

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i do not mind

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:00 PM

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Did anyone else play?

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:00 PM

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No

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 12:01 PM

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I just got up 30 minutes ago and am about to go to work. XD Doesn't matter to me if there's a restart.

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:01 PM

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Well that is a strong yay

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:01 PM

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Let's just stick with the Artiks poll since we can end it faster and see the results

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:01 PM

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i can manually end it

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:02 PM

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3 people already said yes on the other one

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send it

fierce vale May 1, 2024, 12:02 PM

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there was 3 yay votes, i'd say just do it

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:02 PM

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You got it!

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:02 PM

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You can see the result without ending a poll

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:02 PM

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alkso that

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:02 PM

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I'm going to start a new game with the same settings

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:02 PM

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Even though I have to redo the Wind Waker mail game

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:02 PM

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And the same seed

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:03 PM

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same seed? i guess that m,akes sense

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:03 PM

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Sorry for the inconvenience

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:03 PM

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No worries

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New room is up

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:03 PM

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jay you're fine

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:03 PM

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does same seed mean items are in the same spots

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:03 PM

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Yes!

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:03 PM

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hm..

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:04 PM

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Unless you'd like to change things, but then I'd have to generate a new room

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:04 PM

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if this happened tomorrow, we'd be more annoyed, but this is the best time for an issue if there was going to be one

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:04 PM

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Are you fine waiting fifteen minutes for that?

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:04 PM

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id rather just get a new game than retracing knowing whats there

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:04 PM

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Okay

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Then please hold

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:04 PM

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I guess making a new room would make sense as my ASH is 100% spoiled

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:04 PM

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Plus I would know that Jays short hike has 3 very important things for me in two games

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:05 PM

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thats true

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:05 PM

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Oh, does anyone want to change settings before I do that?

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:05 PM

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uh

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:06 PM

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you should turn his beehives on

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:06 PM

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Good idea

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:07 PM

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I get to open Midos chests twice in one day? Its like christmas

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:07 PM

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https://i.imgur.com/IUBtd0F.png

Imgur

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:07 PM

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i want to rename my yaml
thats it lol

📎 Meganoughtica.yaml

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:07 PM

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We need an OoT randomizer that replaces all interiors with Mido's house

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:07 PM

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lol

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:08 PM

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I don't think renaming yourself is necessary. You can just use the nickname functionality

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:08 PM

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shh

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it doesnt matter at all, the settings are identical

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:08 PM

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but it looks like Flitter started the generation before you asked

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:09 PM

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yeah it doesnt matter at all

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:16 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1QAPXpulOM

YouTube

Abahbob

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this is gonna be me later

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:16 PM

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New room is up https://archipelago.gg/room/rZfmpyX_Qgq8j74ydnTwyw

Archipelago

Multiworld rZfmpyX_Qgq8j74ydnTwyw

22 Players Multiworld
running on archipelago.gg with port 64677

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:17 PM

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for not being a robot its actually very hard to hit the required 25

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:17 PM

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Sorry for the delay. Here are the new files you need to start playing

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📎 AP_01239016491137635012_P20_Llisandur.apmq 📎 AP_01239016491137635012_P4_Toon_Arti.aptww 📎 AP_01239016491137635012_P6_Dessy-FF6WC.apff6wc 📎 AP_01239016491137635012_P3_Paper_Arti.appm64

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@dawn wigeon, @tender pelican, @weary lagoon Use these files instead. We had to start a new room.

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:18 PM

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Haaaaai

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:19 PM

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Pins updated

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And here are the settings for all 22 players

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:19 PM

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Lets play Paper Mario sphere 1 before gym

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:19 PM

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📎 SPOILER_message.txt

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:20 PM

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looks like games are back on the menu boys

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:21 PM

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Looks like this time, I have

Ganon's Trials Count:            6
Starting Age:                    Adult
Rainbow Bridge Requirement:      Vanilla
Starting Age:                    Adult
Shuffle Interior Entrances:      Off
Shuffle Grotto/Grave Entrances:  No
Shuffle Dungeon Entrances:       Off
Shuffle Overworld Entrances:     Yes
MQ Dungeon Count:                0

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Much easier settings. Thank you, @clear summit

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 12:24 PM

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midnight depot Like a unique ID per game

this doesn't really help since the mod has no way of knowing whether two different connection infos are "the same game" or not; it just has to trust that the player wouldn't be asking to Continue and changing connection info at the same time unless their multiworld really did change ports

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:24 PM

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Paper Mario BKed

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 12:25 PM

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(unless you're saying the port was exactly the same as last game so Jay didn't change connection info, which would be astronomically bad luck)

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:25 PM

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fresh hill this doesn't really help since the mod has no way of knowing whether two differe...

What the game can do is check the state of the save and compare it with the progress in the room

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 12:25 PM

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imo the real solution would be for archipelago.gg to rely on urls to unique room ids so the connection info simply does not ever change within a single multiworld, but I can't talk anyone into that

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:25 PM

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And if the save is further along than the room, it can throw out a warning

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The mistake here was that Jay assumed it would start over if you just press A to continue and insert the new details

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:26 PM

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oh man i desparatlely need 2 wallet upgrades for arti

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 12:26 PM

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the problem is that's not a warning situation at all; normally that just means someone played the game while the network was down, or someone played one of the other slots in the multiworld

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every AP game assuming that is a normal state to end up in is the entire reason async games are possible at all

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:27 PM

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But the entire progress of the save is before the archipelago game started

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Surely that is easy to detect

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 12:27 PM

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well, the mod has no way of knowing when "the game started"

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afaik that's not a thing AP servers expose

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and of course it wouldn't prevent this when people play multiple asyncs concurrently

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:27 PM

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Oh, I guess it's only something the game administrator has access to

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:28 PM

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oh a bottle? wow

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:28 PM

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It exposes that data to me in the form of a date and time for each message. https://i.imgur.com/Fpakl0j.png

Imgur

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 12:28 PM

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I know it sucks, but this is one of those situations where the user really does have to get it right beacuse the software can't read our minds and this shitty situation is indistinguishable from the completely ordinary situation that happens dozens of times every day in every async and we'd all blindly click through any warnings on

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 12:28 PM

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fresh hill imo the real solution would be for archipelago.gg to rely on urls to unique room...

except ^

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:28 PM

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we just need to impliment AI into our hobby randomize game

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 12:30 PM

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(fwiw, I made a similar mistake with one of my OW slots in a previous month, and that was a "multiple concurrent asyncs" case where start time wouldn't have helped)

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:31 PM

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huh
deku tree was fire temple
can i even get into the deku tree as adult? i dont recall

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:32 PM

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You can get into deku tree as an adult under specific conditions

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I think you need to first enter or finish deku tree as child

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:32 PM

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hmm

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well ill see what happens when im adult i guess

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:33 PM

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now that you have entered as child its open as adult

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:34 PM

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ah ok, thanks

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:34 PM

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Arti found their Kokiri Sword (KF Kokiri Sword Chest)

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Why does the game track this?

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If it's not randomized it shouldn't be an item

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:34 PM

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This time the first thing I am going to do is start a new game in ASH

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From what I've seen, if there is a randomizable item that isn't randomized, then it just shows

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:35 PM

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well you see that every month with zeldas letter

cold valve May 1, 2024, 12:35 PM

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Well that backlog was an adventure

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 12:35 PM

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there are a lot of games with a shuffle option for only one or a few items, so the impact of having them always exist as items/locations even when unshuffled is pretty small (even my mod does this for 1 item/location)

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:35 PM

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i cant belive that my strgth upgrade was 20 rupees in the kokiri shop

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is this important?

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 12:36 PM

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at least I'm assuming Kokiri Sword is part of something like shuffle_sword rather than shuffle_fifty_thousand_grass_tiles

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:36 PM

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cold valve May 1, 2024, 12:36 PM

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I can't play until i get off work anyway

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:36 PM

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This time it is as it should be

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No mistakes

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:36 PM

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may as well get it at 30

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:36 PM

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yeah

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:37 PM

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I don't know how you can play A Short Hike with the pixellated format

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:37 PM

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im suprised that there was 2 affordable essential items this early

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:38 PM

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midnight depot I don't know how you can play A Short Hike with the pixellated format

idk it feels...authentic

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:38 PM

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Maybe if it looked a little sharper than that

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:40 PM

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Holy crap Water Stone!!

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Now I can evolve Gombario into Vaporeon

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:40 PM

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@ancient harness post the reaction please

ancient harness May 1, 2024, 12:40 PM

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didyouknow

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:40 PM

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Thank you so much

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:41 PM

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VaporeonBounce

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:41 PM

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Vaporshi

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:43 PM

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clear summit idk it feels...authentic

this is da waey

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bombs! yey

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well, bombchus
same thing

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:53 PM

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Great news, my OpenRCT is instantly working

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:54 PM

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instantly unlocks 50 checks

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also is this important? its affordable but annoying to get:

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:54 PM

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Ive played enough final fantasy to know that Bahamut is important

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:55 PM

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oooh thats that that means, final fantasy 6

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:55 PM

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clear summit Great news, my OpenRCT is *instantly* working

Blessed seed

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It's Final Fantasy 6 Worlds Collide

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A mod that makes it open world

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 12:55 PM

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aaah

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 12:55 PM

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(and a randomizer)

clear summit May 1, 2024, 12:56 PM

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nvm

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it is missing some rides

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fixed

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 12:59 PM

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well done Jay

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 1:06 PM

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Does anyone know if the Archipelago app needs to be running in the background when using Retroarch for SNES games?

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 1:06 PM

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the client sending items needs to be open

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 1:07 PM

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tender pelican Does anyone know if the Archipelago app needs to be running in the background wh...

Yes. You need to have the SNI client running.

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1- Emulator.
2- SNI client
3- Archipelago client

clear summit May 1, 2024, 1:07 PM

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The game is cleared gg

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 1:08 PM

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All three need to be open and connected to each other before you can send or receive items

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 1:09 PM

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do you automaticly hint double defense and biggoron in your oot

clear summit May 1, 2024, 1:09 PM

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Artiks

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see what I got

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weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 1:09 PM

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Nice

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The command melody is used in 3 dungeons

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 1:09 PM

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Yes

clear summit May 1, 2024, 1:10 PM

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Funny how your Biggoron sword ended up in my RCT both times

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 1:10 PM

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I added these two items as automatic hints because I'd hate to finish the game without them but they don't count as progression

clear summit May 1, 2024, 1:12 PM

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Literal money printer

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 1:13 PM

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That's why I have the self imposed restriction of rides being unique

clear summit May 1, 2024, 1:14 PM

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lol

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Yeah I prefer unique ride parks too

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I may end up destroying it for a more appropriate bigger corkscrew later on

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But rn honestly I don't have great designs to make with current limitations anyway

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 1:20 PM

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Yeah

clear summit May 1, 2024, 1:21 PM

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I just killed 200+ people for 5 rupees

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 1:22 PM

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Oh there's this plugin I like. It shows the arbitrary metrics you have to get in order to avoid penalties for each ride type

clear summit May 1, 2024, 1:22 PM

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Huh

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I think I've been checking one reddit page in r/MarcelVos for that

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It would be very handy yeah

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 1:24 PM

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https://openrct2plugins.org/plugin/R_kgDOJ2MSkg/StatRequirementChecklist

StatRequirementChecklist | OpenRCT2 Plug-ins Directory

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Acknowledgements

Thanks to Crazycolbster and Smitty for allowing use of their ride type enum map linked here!```

clear summit May 1, 2024, 1:28 PM

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I'll check it later

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but thanks

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 1:41 PM

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Okay. I think I'm prepared for the planned three day outage, so let's play some videogames

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I will start with OoT.

clear summit May 1, 2024, 1:45 PM

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6 chairlifts???

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what a troll

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 1:48 PM

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The newest update to the apworld makes it so rides that have a track will never be required in numbers more than 3

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Thank you for a heart container, thieves hideout key

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Hmmm

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Wasn't I supposed to start as adult?

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 2:00 PM

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Aha, I think I finally got it to work. I don't think I can get it working in Steam Deck game mode for now though, so have to run it on desktop.

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 2:02 PM

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How convenient https://i.imgur.com/lrCtq8X.png

Imgur

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:03 PM

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oof, thats really expensive

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 2:11 PM

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And I'm stuck

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https://i.imgur.com/91uYW0l.png

Imgur

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I'll stop here for today

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:12 PM

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that moment when you finally get to the skultula at the end of zoras river but it becomes daytime just when you get in front of it

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 2:13 PM

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That's why they're not in logic

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:15 PM

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they are for me

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:17 PM

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thats why I start with the song that passes time

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in both my zelda games ChisatoXD

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They should have made partners progressive instead of letting you get the partner upgrade before the partner

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:18 PM

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yeah but thats one less fun item to find

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paper mario is still in developmen right?

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:18 PM

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Its still 3 items to find

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its just that now im going to get 2 at the same time

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Wind Waker has the same problem where you can get bomb upgrades before bomb bag

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and yes its in alpha

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:20 PM

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they will probably change those things later

wet field May 1, 2024, 2:21 PM

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lament tusk that moment when you finally get to the skultula at the end of zoras river but i...

A perfect opportunity to stop and meditate

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:22 PM

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nice to see you kratta

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Remember when I told you I got you the megaton hammer?

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It's gone now

wet field May 1, 2024, 2:23 PM

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It was nice while it lasted

wet field May 1, 2024, 2:25 PM

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weary lagoon thats why I start with the song that passes time

Getting repeatedly screwed over by the day/night cycle is an integral part of the oot experience for me

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:26 PM

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exactly!

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:26 PM

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bro we need to play ootmm soon...

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you're going to love waiting for MM in game time

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:26 PM

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yep lol

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i would be down for a few folks putting a solid week or so into ootmm

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:28 PM

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theres a check where you just have just stand around for 12 minutes waiting for a door to open

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:29 PM

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which one? the couples mask check?

wet field May 1, 2024, 2:29 PM

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That's so cool

wet field May 1, 2024, 2:29 PM

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lament tusk which one? the couples mask check?

I don't remember what that mask even does

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:30 PM

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it does exactly one thing

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its another check

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you talk to the mayor while wearing it

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:30 PM

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waiting for kafeis house to open on day 3

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:30 PM

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ooh yeah that one lol

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btw the couples mask is the longest quest in the game, taking the whole 3 day cycle

wet field May 1, 2024, 2:31 PM

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Yeah it's one for the real gamers

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Doesn't it take like the whole game almost to get what you need to do the whole thing?

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:32 PM

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close

wet field May 1, 2024, 2:32 PM

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I remember it being something you sort of do incrementally before going "oh fuck I need something else"

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:32 PM

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you can do it as soon as you have epona so halfway through

wet field May 1, 2024, 2:34 PM

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Wtf I have zero memory of epona being in that game other than the first cutscene

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:34 PM

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wait what? i dropped the bugs directly ontop of the hole they need to go down to get a skullula and they all dissaoeared immidiatly! i didnt have time to grab another one

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i still needed that!

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 2:34 PM

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It's fucked up that Epona is not ridable as child link in OoT but is in MM

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:35 PM

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MM Link is older

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:35 PM

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yeah

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also mm link has oot adult link;s experience

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:35 PM

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wet field Wtf I have zero memory of epona being in that game other than the first cutscene

you need her to access two of the four major areas because they have horse fences around them

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Im sure OOTMM has an option that lets you ride epona as child link

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it has options for everything now

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you can shuffle in roll, climbing ladders, jumping, and talking to people now

wet field May 1, 2024, 2:36 PM

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weary lagoon you need her to access two of the four major areas because they have horse fence...

I should probably actually replay this game before embarking on a ootmm, huh

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:36 PM

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you can have every OoT exclusive item in MM

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:36 PM

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wow

wet field May 1, 2024, 2:37 PM

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lament tusk wait what? i dropped the bugs directly ontop of the hole they need to go down to...

Oh yeah I did that last game

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 2:38 PM

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you can make it so having the ocarina of time lets you turn between adult and child anywhere so it actually has a purpose its so good

shy oyster May 1, 2024, 2:39 PM

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wet field Yeah it's one for the real gamers

that's not real gamers

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 2:51 PM

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Well, I am now mostly at the point of waiting for people to send progression items to me. Oh well. :P
Lots of people are going to get a lot of items when they finally log in.

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 2:55 PM

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Excellent

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 2:56 PM

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lament tusk is this important?

yes very much so

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 2:56 PM

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I think I sent you space jump for one of the SM runs.

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:56 PM

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well you got it

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 2:57 PM

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I need to set up a button for alt-tab so I don't have to have a keyboard connected.

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Or, I can connect to the archipelago server to see what's going on without connecting a game, can't I?

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 2:59 PM

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yeah

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 3:00 PM

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yep, I often connect a tracker to one of my slots just to check what's reachable without intending to play more yet

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 3:00 PM

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Cool, I can have it running on a my laptop then to see what's on the tracker.

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 3:01 PM

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You can connect using the text from a different computer entirely, but not for the purpose of sending items

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 3:01 PM

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OH

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SOMEONE FOUND THE HAMMER

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who was it

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 3:02 PM

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I think it was me? Maybe. I sent a bunch of stuff. Perks of playing a traditional RPG. :P

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 3:02 PM

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Incredible

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 3:02 PM

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Treasure chests everywhere.

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 3:02 PM

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Now I can play the game

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my sphere 1 is 5 checks before hammer

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 3:03 PM

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Someone sent me the sand coin first thing which opened up the second area. That was very helpful.

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Now if I could just get an axe or bombs. XD

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Or a claw.

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:07 PM

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lament tusk also is this important? its affordable but annoying to get:

That is one of many goal items but I don't need it right away

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 3:08 PM

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i got it too

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it wasnt hard, i just needed to wait for day then night again

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without sun song

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:19 PM

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There must be some different setup with that other ff6 world I can't get it to patch

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@midnight depot

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I'll look into it

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 3:20 PM

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I grabbed the patch file off the tracker page.

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 3:21 PM

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dawn wigeon <@68799960375623680>

Did you grab the old file? We had to remake the game

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I pinged you again with a new file

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:23 PM

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it wasn't that

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I had to change my world to the testing one you used

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 3:24 PM

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Oh excellent

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 3:27 PM

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arti that icetrap you gave me sent me into the gerudo valley river
i was trying to fly to the crate

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:29 PM

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My setup btw, nothing like real hardware 😄

rn_image_picker_lib_temp_fd0c25a5-d2e6-49d2-8b63-3835bdc873b0.jpg

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 3:29 PM

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Very nice

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 3:29 PM

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wow, you can rando on real hardware?

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:29 PM

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Too bad only snes works for that

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 3:29 PM

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With the correct hookups

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 3:29 PM

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know its a flashcart or somehting, but thats awesome

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 3:29 PM

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I would do that but I can't spend $230 on the cart right now.

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:29 PM

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There is no N64-computer interface

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 3:30 PM

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I usually opt for cycle accurate emulators over real hardware for convenience

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:30 PM

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And apparently the Everdrive would need some updates for that to happen

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 3:30 PM

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lament tusk arti that icetrap you gave me sent me into the gerudo valley river i was trying ...

omg ICANT

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nothing like traps while actually being synch

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 3:31 PM

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lol

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im back to the valley

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 3:32 PM

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@dawn wigeon You may have to show me this FF6 hack.

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 3:32 PM

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took me a whole 3 mins to get back here

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 3:32 PM

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Also wish they had support for FF4.

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 3:32 PM

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do you know how mildly inconvenient that is?

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 3:32 PM

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Support for FF4 Free Enterprise is coming

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 3:33 PM

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AP needs to implement navi trap

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it makes navi talk to you

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 3:33 PM

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hahaha

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and its a long dialogue

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:33 PM

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I wouldn't say they have "support" for FF6WC (it is marked unsupported)

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Also the world ignored all of my yaml settings

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So playing a different setup than I intended

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 3:34 PM

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midnight depot Support for FF4 Free Enterprise is coming

Awesome. <3 FF4 is my favorite.

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 3:34 PM

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dawn wigeon Also the world ignored all of my yaml settings

That's not supposed to happen

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:35 PM

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I think they've been using flagstrings, I've already asked about it

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problem is I'm not a normal FF6WC player so I don't really know how to configure them

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 3:36 PM

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What if you just generate a normal randomizer flagstring and use that?

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:36 PM

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too late you have to put the flagstring in the yaml

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 3:36 PM

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Oh I see

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 3:39 PM

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done with oot for the day
not in BK mode but everything i got left is scrubs, that means money grinding

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 3:39 PM

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Bahamut seems decent though

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 3:39 PM

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Hope you have MP.

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 3:47 PM

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time for some diving
gotta build a base
again

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not the end of the world

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 3:54 PM

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Lets play Wind Waker before I get even more rupees that dont fit in my wallet

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Warm underwear for @midnight depot !!!

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Lol

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sm64 backflip is shufled?

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are all the other moves too

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 4:39 PM

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Warm underwear makes me able to swim in icy water

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 7:43 PM

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lets do an oot sphere 1 runback

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 7:46 PM

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Good luck

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 7:48 PM

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lament tusk wait what? i dropped the bugs directly ontop of the hole they need to go down to...

this just happened to me and also the GST didnt spawn rdwut

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it did the little jingle and the spider just never came out

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 7:51 PM

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ok this is silly

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 7:53 PM

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WEIRD EGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 7:54 PM

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are you kidding me

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well I'm stopping right there, this seed is clearly too powerful

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 7:54 PM

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weary lagoon this just happened to me and also the GST didnt spawn <:rdwut:399725074204065802...

oof

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 7:55 PM

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Yay sun coin! I can go to the next area just after I cleared this one. XD

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 7:57 PM

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second ice trap death

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scale and mirror sheild tho, and a lot of keys

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nice

fierce vale May 1, 2024, 7:59 PM

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cutelittledudegoingcrazy id forgot i planned to always start with a hat pin after the like 3rd hat in time run where i never got one, lets hope i get one this time

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:00 PM

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lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:00 PM

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i knw where that is but i cant get into it right now i think

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need a ranged weapon to triger his tonsil switch thing

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 8:00 PM

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Let's play a Short Hike

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 8:00 PM

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you'll probably last longer than I did

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:01 PM

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3rd ice trap death

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 8:01 PM

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lament tusk need a ranged weapon to triger his tonsil switch thing

You can do it with a bomb!

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:01 PM

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you can do it with a bomb but you probably wont get far in

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:01 PM

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bombchus?

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 8:02 PM

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Regular bomb

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:02 PM

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sure thatll work

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:02 PM

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i dont have actual bombs

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:02 PM

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bombchus will go up the wall and hit it

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 8:02 PM

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Oh a bombchu can work but isn't necessary is what I was saying

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:03 PM

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small key for key cavern sounds important

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:03 PM

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you could say that its key

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walet

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thanks

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 8:04 PM

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Hm, fire coin is the 4th area, not the third. Out of sequence now! XD

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:04 PM

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yooo leaf

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no magic tho

cold valve May 1, 2024, 8:05 PM

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fresh hill are you kidding me

Power bracelet is an early item for me

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:06 PM

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well i need another wallet for this flitter, sorry

fresh hill May 1, 2024, 8:06 PM

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yeah, I figured strength/gloves/braclet/whatever lets you lift heavy rocks is a big deal in every Zelda game that has it

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 8:07 PM

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Thanks for coins. Here's your scale

wet field May 1, 2024, 8:09 PM

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weary lagoon it did the little jingle and the spider just never came out

Yup, same

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This is why duping bugs is always ethical!

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:11 PM

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4th ice death

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 8:14 PM

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I have to stop because we're apparently breaking in

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:18 PM

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5th death

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:28 PM

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good luck on your break in

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Bombette pooog

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:31 PM

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youd better thank arti for sending arti their bombette

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:32 PM

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thanks

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why is this guy here..

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im at the start of the game..

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 8:34 PM

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Are you not randomizing enemies?

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:34 PM

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hes super vuulnerable to sleep

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:34 PM

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randomized enemies isnt implemented

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 8:35 PM

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I see

weary lagoon May 1, 2024, 8:35 PM

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guess ill pay his one time fee of 50 coins

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thats a boss you fight after chapter 7 ICANT

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I thought I didnt randomize badge cost but apparently I have 1 cost power plus

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 8:37 PM

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well damn

cold valve May 1, 2024, 10:40 PM

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Cyan for dessy-ff6

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small key (bottom of well) for meganoot

cold valve May 1, 2024, 11:01 PM

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cyclops engine fragment for meganoughtica

cold valve May 1, 2024, 11:16 PM

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tingle tuner for toon arti

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WEIRG EGG for meganoot

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:26 PM

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Oh nice, time to make an omlette

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 11:34 PM

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I'm stuck until I get certain progression items.

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:37 PM

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This is good!

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The game is intended to last the whole month

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(minus a few days)

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 11:38 PM

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Next time I'll know to do multiple games.

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:38 PM

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I was in bk mode with oot when I finished earlier
I could do more in subnautica but I got disheartened after dying and loosing my seaglide
Gotta make a new one, just don't wanna

lament tusk May 1, 2024, 11:40 PM

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tender pelican Next time I'll know to do multiple games.

Only do that if you can commit to it! I normally only do one, but subnautica is a comparatively short game, that's very simple to play (especially if you've finished it 12 times)

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 11:41 PM

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Maybe I'll look into DS3 for next time. I should also run Secret of Evermore again so I can do that one. I was going to do it, but I think the last time I played was over 20 years ago.

midnight depot May 1, 2024, 11:42 PM

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You can run a solo game to practice and make sure new games you want to pick up are good for a monthly async

tender pelican May 1, 2024, 11:43 PM

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True.

cold valve May 1, 2024, 11:46 PM

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ok, i'm practically BK'd now. i got a good set of starting items from people that made my first couple spheres huge

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also several dungeons are in easily accessible places it turns out

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i'm only gonna call out items that i think/know are big deals in here

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i don't know anything about monster sanctuary or a few others so i won't be able to discern the apparent impact

dawn wigeon May 1, 2024, 11:52 PM

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I only had a chance to play FF6 and SM64 today, but both basically to BK

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I'll grab a little more later

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I expect SM tobk pretty quickly as it's that sort of game

dawn wigeon May 2, 2024, 6:57 AM

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Dessy-SM's Gravity Suit is at Stockade 13 - Slip of Paper in Ixlily's World. (not found)

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Dessy-SMZ3's Morph is at Old Building West Chest in FlitterASH's World. (not found)

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Those are some pretty big ones for those games. FF6 and SM64 I don't have clear items to look for at the moment

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Oh yeah that guy who made the apworld we used did come back and say he screwed it up. Now we have a new one to use for next time

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What should have been ~350 checks is only 62 now. ah well

fierce vale May 2, 2024, 7:51 AM

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tender pelican Maybe I'll look into DS3 for next time. I should also run Secret of Evermore aga...

ds3 is a fun game to run, the only problem is it has very few key items, so you basically unlock the game in like 1/8ths

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maybe 1/5ths

clear summit May 2, 2024, 10:04 AM

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I literally forgot to turn the game off

clear summit May 2, 2024, 11:02 AM

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I got

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some items

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The list includes but not limited to:

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Lakilester for Artiks
Progressive Magic for Artiks
Ocarina for Artiks
Grappling Beam for Dessy
Ocarina for Flitter
Odd Key for Artiks

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Also Varia suit for SMZ3

clear summit May 2, 2024, 11:29 AM

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Bow for Mega

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Mega may die instantly, I think I sent like 3 ice traps

lament tusk May 2, 2024, 12:05 PM

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i will, yes

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i did, yes

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thats 6 btw

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*7

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*8

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*9

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i still only have 4 hearts btw

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i had to buy one of those myself

lament tusk May 2, 2024, 12:34 PM

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this is the most useful item from my skull tokens
that and 200 rupees for kratta, which i already got for them

clear summit May 2, 2024, 12:37 PM

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It's probably better to die multiple time at once right after loading than getting ice trap mid-game

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...right?

lament tusk May 2, 2024, 12:37 PM

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it is more entertaining tbh

clear summit May 2, 2024, 12:37 PM

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fair point

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It is funnier when you try a trick and get frozen mid-trick

lament tusk May 2, 2024, 12:38 PM

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that has fortunatly only happened to me once

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hmm, i dont seem to be able to sell the skull mask to the skull kid?

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do i need a quest?

midnight depot May 2, 2024, 12:52 PM

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You need to sing Saria's song to him first

lament tusk May 2, 2024, 12:52 PM

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ah, the wiki doesnt mention that

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thanks

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well, weird egg gave me bolero of fire, serenade of water and artiks a deku sheild

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not a lot i can do with that right now

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time for subnautica

fresh hill May 2, 2024, 1:04 PM

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traps in general are probably better in a sync game or in your own world where they can impact your gameplay, not just your "login steps"

lament tusk May 2, 2024, 1:26 PM

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yeah but they;re still fun

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also im BK mode in both of my games now

weary lagoon May 2, 2024, 1:31 PM

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holy crap THE Lakilester?

midnight depot May 2, 2024, 2:14 PM

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Let's play Monster Sanctuary

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I see my client has been connected since yesterday

weary lagoon May 2, 2024, 2:15 PM

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Nicely done

midnight depot May 2, 2024, 2:16 PM

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Which means someone has been playing every two hours or so

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(Or I got lucky)

clear summit May 2, 2024, 2:19 PM

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My game was running for like a whole day

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I forgot that it was running

midnight depot May 2, 2024, 2:20 PM

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What a start https://i.imgur.com/iCYLiKV.png

Imgur

weary lagoon May 2, 2024, 2:26 PM

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4 eggs but none of them are weird? L

midnight depot May 2, 2024, 2:27 PM

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They're all weird

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FlitterMS sent Executioner's Hook to Ixlily (Mountain Path - East Vertical 1)

fresh hill May 2, 2024, 2:29 PM

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welp

#Archipelago Multiworld Multi-game Randomizer