#Starfield

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south bay
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Yep XD

quick perch
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Wow, that's kinda insane

south bay
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You can either have them show the games stgraight up or you can tell them to look like the GBA or GBA SP screens

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Or GB or GBC screens

vestal torrent
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Like drawing the pixel gaps

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Which they can do because they have the pixel density to do that

south bay
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And adjusting the pixel palettes to have the exact same saturation

vestal torrent
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That in fairness does not require a very fancy screen

south bay
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They put a lot of work into it

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Yeah

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They recently updated those filters to be more accurate (but kept the old ones around as well)

tough laurel
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It's good to see Bethesda going back to what they do best. Open world single player games, where all I want to do is just wander off in random directions annoying whatever companion is following me.
RDlol

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Starfield is #1 in the WeMod queue to have hax made for it ppenk

low holly
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Lmao

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Someone has to try skyrim console commands to see if there the same in starfield lmao

jaunty hound
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so

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what is starfield even about?

quick perch
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fallout/skyrim in space

south bay
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Pretty much

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I'm not sure what the actual story is though

jaunty hound
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what is fallout/skyrim even about

vestal torrent
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Starfield but on a planet

south bay
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Fallout: "fuck around in retrofuturistic 1950s America after nuclear war"
Skyrim: "fuck around in fantasy land with dragons and scream at them"

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Also Skyrim: Choose your path: Furry, scalie, or normie

wicked escarp
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There's like 11 flavors of not scaly/furry that doesn't have characters shouting slurs, since it is a cosmopolitan empire, each with their own history, culture, and religion (before the Empire).

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Oddly enough, they all fight, magic, and stealth archer the same way. /s

viral prairie
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Starfield early access is now available! @south bay

vestal torrent
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I thought that was supposed to be in an hour

viral prairie
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rdsnrk I forgot

south bay
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The game unlocks for early access <t:1693526400:R>

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Assuming things go smoothly.

viral prairie
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I’ll get a few Missions in before bed

viral prairie
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Starfield is now out for early Access!

south bay
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In principle

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Gotta wait for Steam to unlock it for people

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And then decrypt it

tough laurel
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Lets see if Steam thinks so

south bay
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Not yet for me

tough laurel
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restart steam
I had to

south bay
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Already tried that but I'll do it again

viral prairie
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I’ve just started.

tough laurel
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116.3GB to unpack

south bay
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Still says this for me

viral prairie
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Is yours bugged midnight?

maiden leaf
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Does it show as premium edition? Were there more than one code to put on steam, in the box?

south bay
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I only found one code

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And it just calls it retail

maiden leaf
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Other people with the collector edition here?

south bay
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@wicked escarp

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Any luck unlocking it?

viral prairie
south bay
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The CE, yeah

wicked escarp
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Just got home from getting food. No joy here yet.

viral prairie
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Yeah same as me. Hmmmm mine is Xbox not sure why it’s not unlocking for you midnight

south bay
maiden leaf
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People say that the digital game code is etched on the credit chip thing?

south bay
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Got it from here

maiden leaf
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Oh so it's only that one code probably

south bay
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It's a Steam code laser etched onto the money thing

south bay
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Yeah it's likely they haven't gotten around to unlocking this variant yet. or they fucked up and only put in standard edition codes onto these things.

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Even though the box says premium edition

maiden leaf
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It would be very on brand for Bethesda

south bay
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It would be

viral prairie
south bay
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That's very possible

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They've been sitting on these CEs since 2022

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It's possible some code IDs got shuffled around

maiden leaf
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Any other company I would say it's unconvievable
With Bethesda it raises to probable

wicked escarp
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Lots of people are complaining on the forums about it. Give it a few minutes.

south bay
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When the code redemtion on Steam didn't mention anything about Premium I started to get worried

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And it said Septemper 6th

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Which is not typical behavior for early access

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Another friend elsewhere is seeing the same

wicked escarp
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Try restarting steam.

tough laurel
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Mine said September 6th too

vestal torrent
south bay
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it is? ah

south bay
vestal torrent
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I imagine they will fix it once they notice.

south bay
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Yep

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Might be minutes or hours

viral prairie
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Or days

vestal torrent
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Unlikely.

south bay
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It would be a P1 ticket for them

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All hands on deck to figure it out

vestal torrent
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P0, even

south bay
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Yeah

vestal torrent
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I did buy it on Steam

south bay
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It's true

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She's having no problems

vestal torrent
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Which lead to the sort of hilarious result that MA on our shared gaming machine just got errors, but switch Steam accounts and it immediately sets off

south bay
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Bethesda, don't scrub my launch

tough laurel
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Mine just finished unpacking
Had to restart Steam to get the green play button

south bay
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Yeah that usually works

vestal torrent
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No problems here.

wicked escarp
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So it seems to be on steam being dumb.

south bay
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Yep

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Either that or Bethesda failed to assign the EA flag to these Steam codes in the CEs

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One of those

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I could buy the latter

maiden leaf
south bay
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They're not called Premium so it's... very possible that's what happened

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They look like standard edition retail

maiden leaf
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I have Armored Core to finish the other endings of anyway

wicked escarp
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Waiting is fine, but if you paid to get it early, that's not acceptable and they owe you money.

quick perch
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I keep thinking Electronic Arts whenever someone says EA

wicked escarp
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I'm being told to restart steam and if that doesn't work, spam the play button.

tough laurel
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the soundtrack is mp3s and wavs

south bay
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wavs is fine

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Time to convert them

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Hm, Steam thinks that the preload no longer exists

wicked escarp
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Same

south bay
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Yeah I have no files for it

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The heck rdwut

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How does this preload work now, Valve?

tough laurel
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all the preload files would be in depotcache

south bay
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Ahhh

wicked escarp
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Time to spam /r/Volvo.

south bay
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Thanks

viral prairie
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Gonna be here for a while

vestal torrent
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It looks super washed out for me

wicked escarp
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Got an unpacking.

tough laurel
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the heck
it's not recognizing my controller

south bay
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This game does not have HDR support

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But also HDR on or off has a washed out appearance, it’s true

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I wonder if that’s just… intentional

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Oh finally, it's unpacking for me

wicked escarp
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While I have to wait, I can eat my dinner.

viral prairie
south bay
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I'm not the person to ask ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Looks like a person to me

viral prairie
tough laurel
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there's a dev console
` key like usual

hybrid folio
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DurandalPeek I would send him to prison if it was me.

viral prairie
quick perch
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oddly looks like matt damon

south bay
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Pffft kinda true

viral prairie
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Actually it does.

south bay
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Hm I need to upgrade the SSDs on this computer

tough laurel
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so my controller just doesn't exist to the game izzywhat

viral prairie
south bay
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Not that.

tough laurel
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bluetooth and wired, nada
no response to controller input on the menu
and the game has built in controller support
Bethesda plz

i wonder if it's my controller....

south bay
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It's a 970 EVO for the root drive when I should be using a 980 Pro or 990 Pro.... should fill the rest of the M.2 slots on this motherboard with 990 Pros.

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The I/O isn't as fast as it could be

vestal torrent
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Should you though

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That sounds unnecessary and expensive

viral prairie
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Ah right.

vestal torrent
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Why is this so grey? Surely it should be black

south bay
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Gray-green

vestal torrent
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It's even more washed out on my actual display

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(spoiler for about three minutes in.)

south bay
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Wondering if I get the same

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Will be able to launch this in about... 20 minutes.

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I already updated the GPU drivers to the latest on that computer and mine

tough laurel
south bay
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Well it would be an uncommon one, but it should read as an Xbox controller

vestal torrent
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No, it doesn't

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Stadia controllers are standard HID controllers, not XInput

south bay
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Well it's not like it would read as a Stadia controller, just generic gamepad, therefore interpret as Xbox controller

vestal torrent
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Lots of games ignore them

south bay
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Ah

vestal torrent
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Steam Input can fix them up, I think

maiden leaf
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I still plan to try really hard to try and see if I can get my Hotas to work
Since it's kinda supposed to be recognisable as a controller, assuming the binds are customisable enough, maybe it'll work

vestal torrent
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There are various other hacks too

maiden leaf
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Probably not the throttle, but the stick should at least be reasonably easy to make work

tough laurel
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well my Afterglow controller has a janky cord and kinda sucks, so time to go buy an Xbox controller I guess rdwut
I wonder if there's any Starfield controllers left....

wicked escarp
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But first, dinner.

south bay
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Man it'll take half an hour to unpack this

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it was much faster on the other computers

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Need those better SSDs

vestal torrent
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It would in fact have been faster to not preload

south bay
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Indeed

vestal torrent
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This is actually true quite often

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Preloading tends to be a net negative given sufficiently fast internet.

tough laurel
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sigh
the only Starfield controllers left available are $40-50 scalper markup over retail.
normal xbox controller it is.

south bay
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It would be about twice as fast.

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Given that I can only unpack at up to 50MB/s when I could download it at twice that.

jaunty hound
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is it compatable with a ps5 controller?

wicked escarp
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No idea, but Sony isn't getting this game (yet).

jaunty hound
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alas

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I mean, it doesn't matter anyway, really, since I can't buy it

quick perch
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on pc, probably

south bay
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Glad we get to collectively beta test this game ahead of the hotly anticipated PS5 launch.

jaunty hound
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true

quick perch
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I'm assuming this is a joke because it's never going to be on the ps5?

wicked escarp
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It'll probably come later, but not for a while.

quick perch
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except this is now a first party microsoft xbox game

drowsy radish
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almost feels like a BG3 reference, since that's about to drop on PS5?

jaunty hound
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I hope someone mods Karlach into the game

south bay
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Stepped outside for the first time today and only just now learned that there’s a wildfire up north. It’s smoky out. rdwut

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Might’ve figured that out had I ever opened the windows today haha

maiden leaf
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Yeah doesn't seem like this is coming to PS at all if Microsoft can help it
Which I mean, exclusivity sucks but I'd be more heartbroken if it wasn't the same thing Sony was doing with everything they can

wicked escarp
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Sony will come to PC when they can get a shitty port out in a few years for nostalgia, remasters, and at a higher price.

south bay
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Oh for fucks sake, steam

maiden leaf
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At least this one releases on PC at the same time instead of waiting a year or more

south bay
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It unplacked it but then it locked it again

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what the fuck

wicked escarp
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Weird.

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Restart and see if that clears it up.

south bay
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yeah trying that

quick perch
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have you still not been able to get it to work?

south bay
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Nope

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Not on my account anyway

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Worked perfectly for Peach

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Oh there, maybe it's finally ready

maiden leaf
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I get that technically PC is a Microsoft platform at least in part because Windows but it's not quite the same thing as releasing on Xbox

south bay
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Well I hear it

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But it's not showing up

maiden leaf
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As game titles don't shift PCs

south bay
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QUality software there, Bethesda

maiden leaf
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At least not in a decent number, you get a pc if you need a pc

south bay
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Ugh finally

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An hour twenty after launch I can get in

viral prairie
tough laurel
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oh hey
you can have the game refer to you as they/them izzyooooh

south bay
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I turned down that film grain to 85% rdwut

viral prairie
south bay
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Man do I have to manually find and interactively pick up matching ammo for my weapons? Eugh

quick perch
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is there no fov slider?

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and how is it running to those who have it?

south bay
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30-40 FPS on my 3080 at 3440x1440 resolution at max settings

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21:9 display

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FSR2 doesn't... do anything.

quick perch
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brutal, I have the same card and resolution

south bay
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Thanks for that exclusivity deal, AMD. Really helping out.

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Super scummy that we live in a world where a hardware manufacturer can literally pay a game developer to not use their competitor's features in their game.

wicked escarp
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They did say that DLSS can be added, so that will probably happen.

south bay
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They're not losing anything by supporting both, but they just fuck over people who made specific hardware choices because capitalism

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Well yeah, of course they can add support for it.

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It's not terribly difficult.

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It'll just take a year or two for them to do so

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However long that deal was for

vestal torrent
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I am getting about 60 FPS at 4K out of a 4090 at max settings with scaling disabled.

vestal torrent
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Bethesda confirmed

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He flew up through that ceiling and is now standing on the roof selling coffee.

quick perch
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as one does when you fly through a ceiling

south bay
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Ceiling coffee is a space delicacy

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Friend of mine sent this to me in another chat

quick perch
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gotta get that ad revenue

vestal torrent
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Apparently if I take off my space suit I get angry beeps forever despite being in an entirely breathable atmosphere where nobody else is wearing one

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Wat

south bay
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Not allowed.

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Chonky suit forever

wicked escarp
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The DLSS mod is already available it seems. That modder was correct in getting it done on time.

quick perch
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what a legend

wicked escarp
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There's two I can find immediately, but only one is public. I'd wait a few days before picking one.

south bay
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I noticed that the soundtrack MP3s were tagged, but the WAV files were not. I fetched the album from Picard and uploaded the AcoustIDs of the WAV files. Should be possible to easily tag them now.

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For the like maybe one other person on the planet who might actually want properly tagged lossless files of this soundtrack

south bay
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You know I expected fewer loading screens in this

quick perch
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Seeing loading screens when you travel between planets and landing was severely disappointing to me, since no man's sky does all of that already

south bay
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Well we knew that was going to happen

quick perch
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Also getting on and out of your ship isn't seamless either

south bay
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But traveling between planets was news to me

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I just hop in the ship, loading screen, click a map, loading screen, press land, loading screen…

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Where’s the actual ship flying?

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Like what’s the point?

quick perch
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Yeah, its more of a planet exploration game than actual space exploration

south bay
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I saw the one dogfight, which fine, but other than that it just stops having a point

quick perch
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Hopefully mods can expand on it

south bay
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You do more spaceship flying in Mass Effect’s galaxy map

vestal torrent
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I see 7/10 IGN guy's point

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But I am also still in approximately a tutorial (which I'm ignoring in favour of random side quests)

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So I will see how that goes

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Presumably there is a bunch of space flight available or they wouldn't have bothered with all the space flying systems.

south bay
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I wasn’t expecting NMS level of flying about, because they set that expectation a long time ago and that’s fine, but for a game in 2023 it still comes across as a wholly unfinished feature. BadDisappoint
Great way to introduce flying in this game: Press the launch button. Now let’s fast travel to your destination.

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Presumably

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I was expecting more like Elite Dangerous

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Rather than “every planet’s orbit is it’s own self-contained loading zone”

lost heath
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Considering that NMS came out 7 years ago, Starfield's flight does feel more primitive by comparison

south bay
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Yeah, I was hesitant to say that out loud

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But it comes across as 2000s design thinking izzyscrunch

vestal torrent
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To be fair, the genre is "Bethesda RPG", not "space simulator"

lost heath
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I'm not able to play Starfield for various reasons, but I'm living vicariously through streamers. I've seen like 2-3 hours of gameplay from two different people who went in slightly different directions in their story

wicked escarp
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NMS had to simplify their flight over time since combat got reworked twice, but you do more traveling by hand there. I think it would have been cool to fly between bodies in a solar system, but keep it as an option to fast travel as it stands.

south bay
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Yeah that was the setup I expected

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Actually rather impressed they boldly went with this configuration

vestal torrent
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It is all very cutscene transport

wicked escarp
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If enough people don't like it, they might add something in in the future, similar to the no NPC thing in 76 for the first year.

south bay
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Indeed. Which makes me almost wonder why they bothered

vestal torrent
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I was sort of annoyed by the train in New Atlantis too

vestal torrent
south bay
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Hence “almost”

lost heath
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From the perspective of focusing on the story that happens to take place in space, I could see why they Starfield does things the way it does. But it's at odds with the promise of... you know, space

quick perch
vestal torrent
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I don't know if that makes it better or worse

south bay
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They did hype up the spaceflight part of the game a fair bit, so that seems to potentially fall flat. Maybe it gets better once the tutorial stops railroading you.

quick perch
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Yeah, the boarding of ships and looting seemed awesome

vestal torrent
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Presumably that does exist somewhere

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7/10 guy said it gets good about twelve hours in. peachwut

south bay
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That’s a long time to wait

wicked escarp
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Same could be said about better spells and abilities in BG3.

lost heath
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In a game where you're expected to spend at least 100 hours in, 12 is relatively not that much twimerp

south bay
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Is there a button for swapping weapons or do I have to pause and go into the inventory screen every time to do that?

lost heath
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There's a way to Favorite weapons

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which you can then swap through. I don't know the specific buttons

vestal torrent
south bay
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Gotcha

vestal torrent
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(or favourite any other inventory item. It has no preferences)

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The tutorial obliquely references this when suggesting you heal, if you ever get low enough on health for that to come up

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I have just been introduced to the option to go Space Trucking

south bay
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Why is Todd Howard so fascinated with the retro analogue tech aesthetic rdwut

wicked escarp
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It's a cool look for this game, which honestly could be switched from Prey and fit in. Fallout came with something similar prior to Beth buying it.

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As for myself, my graphics card isn't too happy with the game. Seem to be fine outside cutscene or script heavy areas so far.

vestal torrent
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What would be really cool is if it were possible for a conversation to involve anything other than exactly one person centred on the screen talking at you

south bay
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The Bethesda experience

vestal torrent
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If you're lucky they might remember to look at you but they also may conduct the entire conversation looking the wrong way

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Also I saw an NPC descend through the floor to go with the one I saw fly through the ceiling

south bay
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Did he sell you floor coffee?

vestal torrent
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While the flying one was an actual vendor with a conversation tree, the falling one was incidental crowd

south bay
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Aw

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Could’ve paired it with the ceiling coffee from earlier.

vestal torrent
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Indeed

maiden leaf
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I am just impressed spaceships aren't NPCs wearing Spaceship shaped hats

south bay
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Give it time.

vestal torrent
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Also I'm still convinced it's more washed out than it should be

south bay
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It’s similarly washed out on my screen too. I suspect it’s a choice.

vestal torrent
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You can tell when you're in a transitional screen with nothing rendering because the background abruptly jumps from dark grey to pure black and then back again

viral prairie
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Anypony had any bugs yet?

vestal torrent
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Does vendors flying away from you count?

viral prairie
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As in the person?

vestal torrent
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Yes

viral prairie
south bay
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Could try running it on the Xbox to see if the color saturation is fixed on that or not

vestal torrent
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Up he goes

viral prairie
maiden leaf
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From what I seen it's remarkably solid for a Bethesda game

wicked escarp
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I'm waiting for better drivers. This is giving my 2080S a run, but I suspect that I can use a similar trick that 76 has to unlock the frame rate more.

As for bugs, one person launched into a platform, the robot having its leg like a crane until a new area, and the C button not working for some reason. Wished space bar worked in the menu too.

south bay
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It’s saturating my 3080 too

viral prairie
wicked escarp
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I might also wait for the DLSS thing to be tested more, since I do have an NVID card.

south bay
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I haven’t played it enough to have a good opinion yet

vestal torrent
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It's also saturating my 4090

maiden leaf
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Also people are saying it is going back to being more of a RPG compared to Fallout 4 which I appreciate

vestal torrent
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But it managed 50+ FPS which is plenty as far as I'm concerned

wicked escarp
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Also wish that the menu options to buy/sell were a little more clear and buybacks were a little easier. I lost my better suit to a trader.

Speaking of, I'm getting shit-all for cash when selling. I did blow out one trader and found another to finish the rest off. Bot was complaining about being attached to all of my equipment.

vestal torrent
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(max settings, 4K no upscaling)

viral prairie
# vestal torrent Up he goes

The only bug I’ve had so far is when you get the cutscene. Of you taking off it just lands again then takes off rdsnrk

wicked escarp
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I had to turn it down to Medium. The first big city is pushing 50,

south bay
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Oh, I did run into a minor bug actually

vestal torrent
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It's okay I caught up with him

viral prairie
vestal torrent
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He did offer but I didn't feel like buying coffee.

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But his dialog tree worked.

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I have barely actually done anything.

viral prairie
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Did anyone get a pre order bonus code sent to their email?

south bay
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In the first first instance of gun combat one of the pirates wedged me up against a wall while it was shooting at one of the NPCs, which pushed me upwards and I was unable to move. I had a hard time trying to shoot him while in that position but once he died I was released from my wall prison.

viral prairie
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It gave me a code not sure what it’s for

vestal torrent
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See the state of my mission list, seven hours in.

viral prairie
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You are on the same main mission as me

vestal torrent
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That is the second one

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I have not actually done any of it. I just triggered the end of the first one and wandered off

viral prairie
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Yeah I only did the intro and up to that point I fell asleep rdsnrk

vestal torrent
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Joined the military, fixed the power, retrieved a package from security holding, that sort of thing

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At some point I may go back to that lady in the nice building

wicked escarp
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YvaN eht nioJ.

south bay
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Constellation waiting for you to come back from your side quests: Grannysmith

vestal torrent
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It's okay they gave me a bedroom

viral prairie
south bay
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Default

wicked escarp
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I honestly have no clue.

vestal torrent
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But it's not labelled and I forgot which one is is

wicked escarp
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Normal.

vestal torrent
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I did not realise there are difficulty settings

viral prairie
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I wonder what very hard is like ponee

south bay
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“You have a room in this large apartment building! Oh you didn’t note the room number or floor when you left? Can’t help you with that.”

viral prairie
south bay
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It’s playable if you backed it

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By a generous definition of playable

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It’s still very alpha

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It’s never coming out

viral prairie
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I hope some ponies make some pone art of starfield

proud kiln
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How long until the Skyrim races are modded into starfield? I need to play a space khajit smuggling skooma into stations.

south bay
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3 minutes twimerp

viral prairie
viral prairie
quick perch
low holly
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Speed run strats lets go

humble vessel
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Starfielders, confirm/deny?

jaunty hound
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back when I played the first Jedi game this happened with Ceres

viral prairie
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@south bay have you had any issues pairing your watch?

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Because mine won’t pair.

south bay
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No issues here

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Try restarting the watch

humble vessel
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"The newgame+ is one of the most innovative takes in the industry, even more so than nier automata"

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That is a high bar ppenk

viral prairie
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I’m on the iOS 17 beta so I’m not sure if that could be why it’s not pairing.

south bay
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That’s probably why, yes

viral prairie
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First one I’ve taken.

humble vessel
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Spaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaace

viral prairie
quick perch
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eyes get destroyed from looking directly into a star

viral prairie
viral prairie
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@south bay Midnight in the Starfield universe confirmed?

south bay
viral prairie
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The main area in the game is massive.

tough laurel
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Anyone who has Premium / CE with the included art book, I found where to find it.
You need to install STARFIELD DIGITAL ARTBOOK & ORIGINAL SOUNDTRACK which should be in your Steam library.
I had to enable the Tools filter to see it, because for some reason it's under that. izzywhat

quartz moss
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Starfield Hype, I'm considering whether to pick it up today or not, GMG has a deal for the base game.

maiden leaf
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Keep in mind the base game is unlocking on the 6th

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But yeah it's looking pretty good by the people playing the early access

vestal torrent
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I am having a good time

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I am now eleven hours in and have still only completed the first story quest peachwut

quartz moss
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aye that's true Genryu. It does look pretty good from what I've seen on twitch or discord streams. Glad you're enjoying it Peach Hack ^_^

vestal torrent
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This time the quest NPC fell through the floor peachwut

wicked escarp
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I found a bunch of bugs. Clearly, we didn't kill them all.

tough laurel
quartz moss
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for those who've experimented with it, how's Base Building in Starfield?

viral prairie
quartz moss
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Hey blade! been a long while aye.

maiden leaf
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I hope they improved the system a little compared to the outpost buinding in Fallout

quartz moss
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yeah, I hope so too haha. They could be a little odd to use

viral prairie
maiden leaf
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That's good to hear

viral prairie
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Is anyone here a good builder. My bases will be small to start off with.

wicked escarp
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I'm going to try to find a place soon to start. Given my limited research and perk choices so far, it'll be a while before I get a decent-sized base.

viral prairie
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When mods come I’m sure there will be pre made bases.

quartz moss
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ooh and imagine a modded traits system! like that house you can get as a trait (with mortgage) but different layouts/builds/setups.

viral prairie
wicked escarp
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I'm messing with the base thing now, since I found a place close by, okay resources, and the wildlife doesn't take 100 rounds to put down.

quartz moss
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how's it feeling control wise?

wicked escarp
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Controls are a little different from FO4/76, but the bird's eye view is nice.

quartz moss
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nods sounds like a good way to get materials and the like too, plus credits if you have excess

maiden leaf
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Honestly what I want most from mods is a kinda hardcore space survival system attached to the game

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With fuel and life support for ships, and stuff like that

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It makes sense for it to not be in the base game, but I'm kinda interested in seeing it added eventually

maiden leaf
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Nah, not interested in perma death

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I am mostly just interested in having more depth in planning a trip to wherever, because I find the idea fun

wicked escarp
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I've got what I can set up, but in order to abuse resource flow, I need to find and build the space version of Saudi Arabia. The HE-3 must flow.

viral prairie
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The upgraded boost pack skill is very good.

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I highly recommend it

dry elk
low holly
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So how is everyone enjoying the game

viral prairie
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Great so far.

humble vessel
south bay
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Sir, are you... supposed to be holding a cup of coffee?

viral prairie
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The vanguard.

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@south bay I’ve been soft locked FSWAAAAUGH

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Have you had any issues?

south bay
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The framerate is lower than I would like

proud kiln
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I know someone IRL who is having problems with Starfield randomly rebooting their PC. He says the graphics act weird before it happens. He has up to date drivers. I am waiting to get this game for a few months I think. I am waiting for patches and mods.

south bay
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That sounds like some sort of memory corruption bug causing the system to eventually crash

viral prairie
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Is anyone’s inventory just emptying randomly?

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I had a gun I was going to mod now it’s not there

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And it was a legendary tier weapon.

proud kiln
# south bay That sounds like some sort of memory corruption bug causing the system to eventu...

I was looking up if this happened to anyone else and I found a video of it happening to Asmongold of all people. I haven't found another video yet but my friend says this is what happens to him as well.

https://youtu.be/cgyLLvaS44E

why is the ground flickering?
Starfield Almost Bricking Asmongold's PC

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tough laurel
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I've not had any problems except for a single item dupe glitch.

viral prairie
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What level is everyone at?

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I’m almost at level 14

tough laurel
viral prairie
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I saw that earlier.

tough laurel
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New ship acquired pippwiggle

quartz moss
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yoo that's slick

humble vessel
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The computer is warm"

quartz moss
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starfield runs hot hahah

wise oar
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Apparently people are refunding and boycotting starfield because you can choose your pronounslunaweez

quartz moss
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those people are buttershy

viral prairie
jagged lynx
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guys

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I have a question

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is the game good

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rate from 1 to 10

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from everything I see it looks like it is worth the money

lost heath
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I've only watched other people play. My rough impression is that it's a solid 8 or 9. It has Bethesda jank, but less so than their previous titles

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I wouldn't consider it groundbreaking, but there's cool stuff in it

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Well. It is ground breaking in that you break the ground to mine for resources like in NMS, but other than that twimerp

tough laurel
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Don't listen to all the people complaining about it. It's as if these people have never played a Bethesda RPG before. This game feels right at home to Bethesda's style of single player RPG.

also according to console achievement stats (Steam global stats aren't available yet) most people haven't even played long enough to reach level 10 yet, so lpshrug
Take what people say with a grain of salt.

lost heath
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Personally speaking, I'm disappointed in the apparent reliance on fast travel as opposed to seamless space travel

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I suspect the engine wasn't up to the task

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But given everything else that can happen in the game, it's not a deal breaker

maiden leaf
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I think that expectations play a big role on if you like this or not, from the reactions I've seen

tough laurel
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I haven't been bothered by the use of fast travel.
And I just know that people would complain about it taking too long to get anywhere if there was long distance spaceflight.
People don't know what they want, and will never be happy.

lost heath
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I mean, what if both? ppcute

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These aren't mutually exclusive things

maiden leaf
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I've seen people expecting a space sim being let down, and I've seen people having just seen the marketing and not being familiar with bethesda games disliking it.
Which is fair, if it's not for them it's not for them.

jagged lynx
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that's was partly helpful

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thanks y'all

humble vessel
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For someone who hated the absolute jank of Skyrim, and got bored of Fallout's pacing... probably not up my alley?

south bay
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I dunno they might’ve fixed the jank

maiden leaf
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I wouldn't play it if you dislike bethesda games.
Seems less buggy than the average Bethesda release at least

jagged lynx
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it just works

humble vessel
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I think if anything, i'd give it a whirl on gamepass

south bay
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Well hey, I managed to beat tier six in the Kobayashi Maru. midnightdance

south bay
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Ah yes, quality Bethesda experience. Part of the model for my ship offset itself when I sat down into the pilot chair, so now the outside is on the inside.

viral prairie
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If it is I only got to tier 4 @south bay

dry elk
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... there's a Kobayashi Maru scenario in Starfield?

tulip isle
hybrid folio
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BronyaHacking There are also a few Trek actors too.

tough laurel
tulip isle
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Interesting

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I still have to wait 3 days to play lol

vestal torrent
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Well there's a space combat simulation. It's not deliberately unbeatable.

south bay
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It’s close to it though.

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You’re encouraged to hack it.

tough laurel
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Anyone else had the pleasure of meeting Commander Kibwe Ikabe yet? rdwut

vestal torrent
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I just finished his whole thing.

tulip isle
wicked escarp
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I was streaming last night to a group elsewhere and got that ship. We listened to his whole thing. I then decided to "RP" as a Vault Tech salesman and make my own pitch.

tulip isle
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XD

wicked escarp
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I picked up a 15k bounty, got rid of all the witnesses and had to pay a 1.3k fine in another system when I got pulled over. After registering the ship and selling it, I made about 700 credits in total, before selling the cargo that was transferred over.

tulip isle
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Lol

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Still worth it XD

wicked escarp
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Still working on getting a higher class ship, so I can get more cash from ship disabling and/or bounty hunters.

tulip isle
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Good luck

south bay
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It’s not strictly unbeatable without it, but the odds you’ll be able to beat it straight are very very very low.

humble vessel
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(downstairs neighbor had something explode, causing a large fire. Guy was awake to see this or might've died from smoke inhalation)

lost heath
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By sheer domino effect, this means that Todd Howard saved this person's life twimerp

humble vessel
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The reddit thread has OP say THANK YOU GODD HOWARD

vestal torrent
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"Capacitor NCC-1701 is acting up again, sir."

south bay
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I do love the shameless references

dry elk
wicked escarp
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I did see that happen yesterday, but not related to that.

tough laurel
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I'm still annoyed that I got spam space called about my ship's extended warranty rdsnrk

south bay
tough laurel
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initial version of Starfield Script Extender has been released
prepare for all the mods.

Script Extender is the base of so many mods in Skyrim/Fallout/etc.

south bay
wicked escarp
quartz moss
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that's incredible

wise oar
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Ill be able to play starfield at 6pm today

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So 5 hours from now

viral prairie
wise oar
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I've wanted to play a game like this for soooo long

viral prairie
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Hope you have a good time.

manic musk
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Starfield live in 5 hours

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I don't know what I'll do in the meantime I kinda don't wanna do anything else

maiden leaf
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I'll definitely play tomorrow evening, unless I'm so insomniac that I wake up at 3am wide awake

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Which isn't uncommon for me

low holly
vestal torrent
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It's not entirely wrong, though.

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At the same time when a random side quest sends me halfway across the galaxy three times, the fact that I can't make that journey in a single jump already starts getting old.

dry elk
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If you experience any issues getting into Starfield today, please note that we are rolling out the game and it may take time to propagate through the system. If you receive an error message such as ‘do you own this game or app?’ or ‘are you too early’ – please be patient and try…

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vestal torrent
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I don't know if this is an appropriate time to do a progressive rollout

low holly
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Probably wanna do it before the Wednesday surge of people wanting to play it

jaunty hound
wise oar
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Im starting Starfield

manic musk
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Oh my god my PC has finally been humbled

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Preset to low settings

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Gonna knock down to 1080p

south bay
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To be fair this game needs serious optimization

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The 3080 can’t keep up

vestal torrent
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Mind you I'm not sure I'd expect a three year old GPU to run a game released today at max settings at 3440x1440.

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(The 3080's third birthday is next week. Doesn't time fly?)

wicked escarp
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I also suspect that a lot of the newer GPUs have skimped out on a few things and not even the latest tricks to make it easier help a lot.

manic musk
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I have a 1070Ti

south bay
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Whether that’s actually relevant or not is debatable, given the pandemic happened during most of that time. Further, it’s a Bethesda game. It’s not going to be optimized.

wicked escarp
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This is the first Beth game that I've had issues with in the frame department. 76 technically had one too, but an ini file change gives me more frames than ever.

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That 1070 might have finally met something. A salute to that card and series.

south bay
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I have been hearing the 1000 series has been meeting their ends lately

wicked escarp
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It's like the older 360s or the Jasper models finally Red-Ringing. It's a shame, but it will happen.

manic musk
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It's been able to trounce pretty much anything at 1440p I've thrown at it

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Today it has met its match

vestal torrent
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Given the 4000s are now comfortably released, that is not a bad run

wicked escarp
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Pro-tip then: Avoid forests, since it seems that shadows from trees tank the frame rate.

manic musk
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Got some saving to do for a 4070 now I guess

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Or maybe something from AMD

wicked escarp
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Could go Radeon if that is a cheaper option, but I think it might be time. Just make sure your case can handle it, along with the PSU.

manic musk
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Case and power supply will be fine, just looking for the best bang for the buck

wicked escarp
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Given where you are, I'm sure you can get a better deal than most.

manic musk
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Sasuga MicroCenter

tough laurel
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My 3060 does okay on Medium with one of the DLSS mods from Nexus installed.

wicked escarp
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My 2080s does okay on Medium, with film grade off and a last gen CPU. I haven't tried any of the DLSS mods.

manic musk
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Well no I'll probably buy from Best Buy. I don't get discounts on parts but free extended warranty makes exchanges easier in case I get a bum unit

vestal torrent
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Unsurprisingly, my 4090 does fine at max with no scaling of any kind. Brute force always wins peachwut

south bay
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I’m assuming they calibrated for the 4090/4080

wicked escarp
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Recommended was my card, but probably not at 1440.

vestal torrent
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That's a pretty reasonable place to peg max 4K no upscaling

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The 3000s are entering medium territory.

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I still think the cut over from actually dropping PS4 / Xbox One support is going to (and already has) result in an abrupt shift in expectations

wicked escarp
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Seems that Shattered Space is now released. Steam told me that that DLC is out.

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Anyway, I became an owner of a Warhammer this morning, so my space combat is more solid and I can carry roughly 15 more companions worth of weight. Just need more crew (and levels).

south bay
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Internet says it should be next year

vestal torrent
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I have barely touched my ship

south bay
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Sounds like Steam is lying

vestal torrent
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I technically have three at this point, and 450,000 credits that are probably worth spending on a good one

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I have also made no outposts or figured out why I'd do that

wicked escarp
wicked escarp
vestal torrent
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I know how, I'm less clear on why

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Presumably to make money and/or stuff but I imagine it's not that simple

wicked escarp
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It's mostly for the huge resource contracts, having the HE-3 to fly without a bigger tank, or a place to store everything things when you run out of space. I guess you can build a home and whatnot too.

vestal torrent
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I have my nice penthouse apartment to fill with giant crates

wicked escarp
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I haven't earned my citizenship yet, and no, I would not like to learn more. teehee

vestal torrent
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Speaking of stuff, doing quests for the ECS Constant is a great way to fill your inventory

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They don't have money so they just pay you in random (valuable) junk

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"thank you so much for delivering my letter, here are three antique baseballs"

wicked escarp
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I did find Masque's some Ancient Video Tapes and got a laugh.

low holly
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Looks like starfield went live on steam for everyone else

maiden leaf
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Ok I played a bit this morning and I have some thoughts

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It was just like, a couple of hours before I had to leave so it's not much, but I can already see what I feel I will really like and what I think will be pain points for me in this game

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The game seems really good, the things I thought I would like I am really liking, the themes are right up my alley and I feel like overall, if I manage to get through the game I will come out with a really positive overall experience...

That said fuck man, there are a few things there is a decent chance I will come to despise.

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The carry capacity is so fucking low, and everything weighs so much? It needed to be like, 3 times what it is now

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And for a game that wants to spend a bunch of time in the menu, the menu are pretty bad.
Maybe not BG3 bad, but it's pretty close, and BG 3 had the "send to camp" button that made it bearable, this doesn't.

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Who thought that the deafult button for healthkits being "0" on pc was a good idea?

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I mean it is for me because I play MMO and I have mouse buttons for fucking 6-0 but that's shouldn't be the deafult

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On the positive side, the fighting feels pretty damn good, much better than i expected.
I don't love how the weapons seem to be pretty random with their damage numbers, like they have hidden tiers, and you can find two identical unmodified weapons that di wildly different numbers.
I hope we get a full rebalance mod in the future that does away with this, but it's not a deal breaker for now.

dry elk
maiden leaf
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The classic bethesda pitfalls feel amplified by the randomly generated content to a degree. like, my first few levels feel like I have to invest into hacking if I want to get into decent loot, in older games there would be alternative methods, like finding the key or finding a terminal to unlock the safe but doesn't seem to be an option from what I've seen in this one.

That said, said random generation seem pretty impressive.

Landed in a random place, explored a bunch of locations that felt unique and distinct, some had enemies some were jus abandoned or had wildlife, a ship landed and I went to check out, found a group of enemies shooting at me, felt like an adventure that naturally unfolded and kept me immersed.

If only the inventary didn't fill up every 15 seconds it'd have been even better

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I feel like there is a masterpiece buried in this game that Bethesda quide doesn't have the skill to balance or refine, but with a few tweaks could easly get there.

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This is just a few hours messing with what the game threw at me tho, I might change my mind as I play more

viral prairie
maiden leaf
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I will max that for sure but it barely helps

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As I said, the inventory needed to be x3

viral prairie
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I’m at level 3 of that skill currently.

maiden leaf
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Also it sucks to feel like you have to invest a bunch of perk to get basic functionality

hybrid folio
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BronyaHacking Weight limit really sucks.

maiden leaf
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It also kind of forced you to bring arounda companion so you can give them your extra stuff, and that's another problem I kind of have, that the companion AI sucks ass

hybrid folio
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The ammo situation could be better too.

maiden leaf
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Ammo I don't mind as much since it's things you can craft right?
There is already not much depth in the game with managing resources given like O2 is essentially just stamina

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And you don't need fuel for your ship

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And you don't need to drink or eat

hybrid folio
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Sleeping and eating gives you exp buffs.

maiden leaf
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It's the one thing you have to balance, your ammo, so I don't mint too much that being a balancing act, especially since as I understand you can buy and craft that stuff, so it's something you can play around eventually

hybrid folio
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LuxSip Vendors sadly have very little ammo.

maiden leaf
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While weight you can't really do anything about except bringing a mule which has terrible AI or keep traveling to your ship to drop stuff off which is just loading screens and break the flow of exploration

hybrid folio
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There's a lot of credits usually laying around and you can loot a lot too.

maiden leaf
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Yeah money isn't a big problem, that's good

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Selling stuff also give a lot of money if you loot high value stuff

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I assume I'll have to make an outpost so I can offload some stuff tho, the ship gets full fast too and of things I don't necessarily want to vendor off

wicked escarp
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I haven't had too many issues with ammo, but certain ones seem to have more than others so far.

As for space, I did abuse all my crew and space space to haul it, but I have had to limit myself to modified weapons and gear for space-to-creds ratio.

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I also abused one outpost for storage space, but once I got into Class B ships, 2.8k to start solved a lot of that.

maiden leaf
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I really want to start building ships but I assume I have to build up some serious credits

hybrid folio
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SeeleNoted Pretty sure you can edit your weight capacity with the console as well.

maiden leaf
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if it gets to the point that I'm quitting the game over it, I might add a few hundreds to the base value

wicked escarp
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My biggest issue, outside early health pickups, currently is damage-dealing. Some of the enemies, especially a few creatures, need some serious damage-dealing stuff or else you just die.

maiden leaf
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As I said earlier, I'm pretty sure that weapons have hidden tiers, which kind of sucks.
I killed a lvl 14 idiot at lvl 3 (it took a lot of ammo) and it dropped a weapon of a type that I already had that it does much more damage.
Meaning that I don't feel like in investing much in upgrading a weapon if you can just drop objectively better versions of them.

Unless you can upgrade them through tiers, which I kind of doubt if they are hidden

wicked escarp
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You have to research the addons, but that is only a resource cost, most of which you can find or build (either now or into the future).

maiden leaf
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Yeah I'm not talking about addons

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I might be wrong tho, maybe it's an addon that boosts the damage, to me it looked like it just had extended mag on it but the damage was significantly higher than the other version the enemies of my level were dropping

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So it would just means that a higher level enemy just drops a better base version of the weapon which was also modified on top of it, but maybe that's not it and you can just make that weapon at the bench

wicked escarp
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I think player level does have a part in it, but also the level of who you fight does too.

viral prairie
maiden leaf
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Yeah all the mods seem very cool, I plan to spec on weapon modification pretty soon, assuming I can level my science perk.

I started with medicine but I feel like I'll have to also pick another one

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That one is way too slow to level

viral prairie
wicked escarp
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At least one in boost, pilot, and security to get around in the game and then go from there IMO.

maiden leaf
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Started Combat Medic, with United Colonies Native, Kid Stuff, and Terra Firma to essentially recreate a character I played in Traveller

viral prairie
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Ooooh nice.

maiden leaf
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Sadly you can't get a mechanical arm with a chain blade inside of it

viral prairie
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I’ve maxed out the health skill I’m currently getting the weapon damage ones done.

maiden leaf
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if there is an expansion, I kind of hope they add cybernetic aumgentation, it's like, the one thing that I feel makes sense in a space game of this kind we don't have as an option

viral prairie
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What level is everyone currently?

maiden leaf
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Like 4, basically just started

wicked escarp
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Probably 23 after this quest for a companion is over.

viral prairie
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I’m almost 25

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But there are some people at level 100 already!

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I think I only have a few missions left in the main story. But I’m just doing side quests to unlock some stuff.

maiden leaf
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I also kind of wish that the same key to bring up the local map, wasn't the one to lob grenades

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It led to a few awkward situations

viral prairie
maiden leaf
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That's annoying, I agree, that said once you learn what your favourite weapon use it's probably not as big of a deal

viral prairie
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There’s a mod out where is lists what the weapon uses and it’s damage too.

vestal torrent
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Since ammo doesn't have mass I just try to have a bunch of everything

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I've also taken to just dropping stuff while inside my ship

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Which doesn't use cargo hold space and persists indefinitely

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(though it does under some circumstances get shunted into your cargo hold, which can push it way over its limit)

wicked escarp
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Ship cargo is technically unlimited if you force the game to change home ships, but you can only do that once per home ship movement. That said, it will move everything into the holds.

vestal torrent
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It will also do this whenever you modify a ship in any way

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(some quests dump stuff in there and ignore the limits too)

dry elk
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Livestream right now, this guy does tons of Fallout content

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"Your feet appear to actually touch the floor, which is crazy technology guys!"

quartz moss
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I'm up! I'm not tired! It's starfield time ^_^

low holly
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Glad your alive

quartz moss
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Hey Agent, glad to be alive as well. Are you also amongst the starfield?

low holly
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I have game pass so ill be trying it out this weekend

viral prairie
low holly
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Thank you

viral prairie
quartz moss
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ooh nice Agent! Happy Birthday 🥳

wicked escarp
tulip isle
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Miracle happened....my laptop able to run Starfield - on the lowest setting, but who cares XD

wicked escarp
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I wish I could get a few of the mods to work, so it is what it is and it is early.

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On the flip side, TIL that I can mine in space by blasting some of the smaller rocks.

maiden leaf
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I'm sorry I need to check to make sure I'm not actually stupid
Is the lockpicking minigame actually kind of hard for anyone else or is it just me?

jaunty hound
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just take your next feat in sleight of hand

tough laurel
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the digipick minigame takes some getting used to
it also helps to level up your security skill

vestal torrent
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It certainly requires some thinking at the advanced and master levels

low holly
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It definitely takes getting use too

wicked escarp
wise oar
wicked escarp
stone roost
wicked escarp
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Ah yes, the potato room.

tough laurel
south bay
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That art style is bizarre

tough laurel
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Nope
just their animation style
goes back years on their channel and it's still the same

south bay
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Huh

tough laurel
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So you're saying the suspicious succulent scoundrel seems to be seeking to suck up some of our succulents?

maiden leaf
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They basically animate over themselves acting

vestal torrent
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Steam has managed to somehow merge @south bay's and my Starfield saves into a single pile.

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Through some sort of account confusion and steam cloud presumably.

south bay
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Definitely fucked up their Steam cloud save implementation

tough laurel
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Starfield doesn't use cloud saves
all your gamesaves are in Documents\My Games\Starfield\Saves

south bay
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It does use cloud saves.

vestal torrent
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It clearly does use cloud saves because they sync between my computers.

south bay
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It just seems to dump them into a pile and not care what account they came from

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And it synced from my computer to the big computer

vestal torrent
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But unlike everything else on Steam it doesn't split save games by steam account.

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(Okay, every other Microsoft game also gets this wrong)

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But actually merging saves from two accounts and then syncing them back to the cloud is a new one on me.

south bay
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Yeahhhh, Microsoft games are a gigantic pain

vestal torrent
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adds another notch to the PC gaming pile

maiden leaf
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It's kind of crazy that I've been playing for several hours basically as an UC Vanguard Captain and I actually forgot a few times this is not what the story of the game is supposed to be about

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Oh BTW, if you happen to put ah Armory on your ship, that module seems bugged to all hell so probably wait for a fix for that

quartz moss
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thanks for the heads up. Glad to hear the faction stories are engrossing.

maiden leaf
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Ok also, I finally had a space objective, it was without spoilers, to go to a station, ask where some dude was, and then follow up by going to a debris field to either destroy his ship, or board it and take him alive. that was very good.

Sadly I reloaded becasue to take him alive I kinda need a skill I don't have yet and I want to do it that way, I'll probably actually start the main mission later hoping it gives me some good exp while I keep this other objective paused for the moment.

wicked escarp
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As long as a quest doesn't have a time limit, it'll be frozen until you get back.

maiden leaf
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Yeah, assumed as much

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Ok so, I took the perk that gives you parents, and they are really fun to have around

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The game generate them based on your character choices at character creation

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They are hilarious, ||after you join Constellation if you tell them they just go in there and make friends with the people there, it's kind of cute||

tough laurel
maiden leaf
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This is very interesting

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Stations are ships code side

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I didn't know that

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Which mean, while not currently possibile, building your own station is probably pretty easy to add via expansion or probably even mods

viral prairie
tough laurel
viral prairie
viral prairie
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@dry elk

wise oar
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I visited Earth

low holly
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jim sterling
Yeah that about checks out

maiden leaf
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I still feel like people should stop considering review scores as objective metrics that can be wrong, unless the review is objectively wrong about some of the mechanics, or systems of the game (and even then, it could be argued it is still the fault of the game for not explaining them correctly)

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If the reviewer in question had a 4/10 experience with the game that's fair

wicked escarp
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Sterling also needs the rage to stay in the news and get people talking about them, even if a few of their points have some weight. It's on brand for them and nothing will ever appease them.

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Also, that was rated on the XBOX version and not PC, which explains why I couldn't find it.

maiden leaf
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I wouldn't assume malice, it's not like ign or any other publication is any more desperate than Sterling for clicks, it's in fact their main trait, being desperate for clicks

wicked escarp
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I do assume some malice, since they have some legit beef with the industry as a whole, but the character they play is blending in more with the person they are.

maiden leaf
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Eh, that's not been my experience despite the fact that I rarely agree with them

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Like, the opinion pieces sure, probably.
But with the reviews they have always been outspoken with their opinions even when they go against the grain.

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I remember learning about them because of their FFXIII review, which was controversial at the time but was actually pretty spot on.
One of the few times I actually agreed

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But mostly, I do think that people should learn to not take a bad review on a game they like as a personal attack.
That reviewer had a bad time, their perspective is probably more valuable than the 50 reviews that repeat the same points and let's be honest, half of them are probably made with chatGPT.
Some of the people that would dislike that game will read it and find it informative in a way that they wont any of the other reviews.

vestal torrent
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I don't think I'd actually disagree with basically any of the text of that review except for how upset I am about it. So sure, seems legit.

wicked escarp
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I took a look at the closest game to this, which would be Outer Worlds and they loved it. "Better than New Vegas", which is why NV is still being played and modded while the latter is forgotten.

maiden leaf
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Yeah the thing is, at the time I thought that their voice being out of the choir was extremely valuable for FFXIII, and people were basically citing the same thing, causing drama to get clicks.
So my assumption is that a few people will see this and have the same experience I had with their FFXIII review.

I do think that it's kind of fucked how the metacritic score is view as a score of success and why I feel like a Rotten Tomatoes system is much better, but that's not on Sterling or any other reviewer head.

wicked escarp
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You mention Rotten Tomatoes (can't shorthand it since RT is a propaganda outlet of Rule 2 land in the same vein as OAN and the like), but I saw an article somewhere recently that even that is being gamed.

maiden leaf
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Also their review tends to be that way because they try to use the whole scale from 1 to 10, something the industry stopped doing a long time ago.

I feel like that for other outlets to give a 4/10 the game would have to be literally unplayable.

wicked escarp
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They gave Gollum a 25 for reference.

maiden leaf
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It might be gamed in some way, i just think that it's a lot better to parse it as "95 out of 100 reviewers liked this game"

That does free people to give lower scores and still count as positive, which I feel would have a lot of positive effects on how people assign scores.

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Also does take away the power of someone giving it a super low score to tank the average

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If it's a 5 or a 1, it still counts a reviewer not liking it

wicked escarp
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They're a critic, so their voice will have more weight, since it is its own category.

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User reviews might be better, if taken as a whole overall.

maiden leaf
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I don't know, audience scores for movies are usually really bad

vestal torrent
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The recent gaming of rotten tomatoes was about an incident in which a film that had thirteen reviews paid critics for enough positive reviews to push it over the 60% threshold. Which feels like possibly actual fraud since they then apparently used that score to sell the film to a distributor.

wicked escarp
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I see Peach also read that. I agree it was fraud, but it got them out of the dog house and pushed into theaters.

vestal torrent
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I mean more actual fraud as in I would not be surprised if their distributor sues them over it.

maiden leaf
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Yeah but this system isn't any less vulnerable from that pratice.
Also once you sass out the bad actors you can ban them from the critics pool.

vestal torrent
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The thing that gets me about that affair is that the amount of bribe required was $50 per review

quick perch
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Wow really? That's it?

vestal torrent
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Apparently

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But I don't think it really invalidates the concept in a broader sense.

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I would say that a distributor should probably hire its own critics to do its own internal reviews instead of checking the number on the free website

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More broadly I don't really get why anyone cares if one person leaves a bad review.

south bay
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That’s a sad amount for false reviews

wicked escarp
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At least my Congress critters get a few more zeros for that. /s

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If you're going to sell out, go FIFA and make the banks behind the transactions worried.

maiden leaf
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Also actually, after trying to get the targeting system to lock on on the engines of a ship for the last 45 minutes I might get persuaded to join team Sterling flutterwaaaugh

wicked escarp
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You have to use the arrow or WASD keys to move it around. Thankfully, time slows a bit and moreso with the perks.

maiden leaf
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Yeah I'm bad at piloting perks, I just got the targeting one because I needed it to get the engines down

vestal torrent
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The set of things you cannot do at all without taking a skill is weird

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"Have a jetpack! What does it do? Nothing at all until you find and acquire the right skill"

maiden leaf
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I thought the way it worked, is that if your ship had a crewmember with that skill, you could use it, but it doesn't seem to work that way.
It's a missing opportunity IMO

wicked escarp
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Having better weapons might help too. I use the PAR weapons to open and crack shields (decent overall damage and 3k range), then an EM weapon in targetting mode to disable whatever you want (and does little damage to the opposing ship, but does a number on their system).

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Crew with that skill gives you some of that effect, but I don't know for sure. Help menu might explain more.

maiden leaf
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The game is not very good at explaining itself I'm afraid, but from what I've seen, crew with that skill just give a bonus, which is sometimes related to what that skill is supposed to do

lost heath
maiden leaf
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Thanks for the heads up with the weapons, my configuration now is a lot more cozy, even tho they do cost quite a bit

wicked escarp
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And be sure to do a tour of the shipyards, since they offer more in certain systems, depending on what it is.

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I think Deimos has some better weapons, Strout has better shields, and I don't know about the rest.

maiden leaf
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For now I am happy I cobbled together something that has decent cargo and works pretty well, I'll wait until I have some serious credit before doing some real customisation past this point

wicked escarp
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Also try to rank up the class of ship. You can fight and win against any class, but if you want to claim them, you need to be able to fly them.

wicked escarp
viral prairie
low holly
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That was fast

tough laurel
viral prairie
sullen pike
viral prairie
south bay
low holly
maiden leaf
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At least the kind of DLC I hope this game will get

sullen pike
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I went with a bounty hunter 😎
They didn't do a great job explaining how the ship works. Engine and shields I understood, but no idea what the other nobs do, haha. I'll figure it out. I like how quick it got you into the open world.

maiden leaf
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Yeah basically from the moment you get the ship you can do whatever

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I noticed that if you follow the story it does explain more mechanics tho

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Like you kinda get a tutorial on boarding and shit, on stealth in space, etc

maiden leaf
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Yeah those are actually pretty challenging

sullen pike
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I'm a main story kind of guy so I'll be a okay

viral prairie
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I’ve almost finished the story. Just been doing side quests at the moment.

maiden leaf
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So far the whole UC vanguard sidestory has been exceptional

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It feels like it's supposed to be main story

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Hope the other faction stories deliver as much as this one

viral prairie
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What part of it are you on?

maiden leaf
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next step is ||to land on Londinius to get the research material to either develop the viral agent, or clone the alien creatures to get rid of the terramorphs||

tough laurel
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I just got sent to Neon in the Crimson Fleet quest line rdwut

viral prairie
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Have you joined the crimson fleet yet?

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Because it’s recommended for after you’ve completed the main story.

tough laurel
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You don't have a choice once the Fleet quest line starts

vestal torrent
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I did that whole thing before doing the second quest in the main story

viral prairie
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I watched it online you can get bounties on you if you kill one of them and you’ll get it regularly like sometimes it’ll be 100K each time.

vestal torrent
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I never had a bounty on me

viral prairie
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Did you kill any of the crimson fleet?

vestal torrent
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I did not. Killing the crimson fleet seems like a poor choice when you are a member of it.

viral prairie
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I can do the mission to start it but I’ll do it after the main story.

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I only have a few to go I think.

wise oar
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Im having a lot of fun in starfield

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I assaulted two moon bases and found a thing that told me where a secret outpost is

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I also bought a silenced double barrel shotgun which is pretty powerful

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I also unlocked a door and found a big robot dog thing and a dead body

rare wing
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have you guys found any Doom references

tough laurel
wise oar
wise oar
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Found it on Luna

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Or Earths moon

wicked escarp
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4 more mechanics that Starfield doesn't tell you about:

  • There are many doors marked that you can break open by shooting or using your cutter, there are even blocked doors by ice that you can open this way too

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Have to click on to see the other three.

wise oar
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I found out about the doors while i was playing earlier. Thought it was super cool that you could do that

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I fucking love this game

tough laurel
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I just wandered through the history exhibit inside MAST.
Fascinating twimerp

hard fern
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anyone could give a short description of starfield? its on gamepass but i dont have much storage space so idk if i should download it or not

maiden leaf
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Have you ever played a fallout game?

sullen pike
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It's an open worlds game. Lots of side quests and what not. Explore, sneak and fight your way though space and caverns to complete your objectives. Very customizable level up system. Do you want to be a pilot? Gun slinger? Diplomat? The options are there.

maiden leaf
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So far I am having a lot of fun but I must say, the inventory system is really being a drain on the fun for me.
Mostly annoyed by the time I am spending just trying to get rid or put away stuff

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Next goal tho, unlocking some of the advanced ship parts and putting together something strong.

hard fern
maiden leaf
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Ok so, take the gameplay loop of fallout, go someplace, explore a zone, or find a NPC that ask you to do something for them, find a complex taken over by robots/animals/bandits.
That is essentially all still there.
Add space battles, multiple planets, and more of a theme of space exploration/wanderlust rather than post apocalyptic USA

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There is quite a bit of stuff you can do, the writing in the quests I did varied from okay to great, and range from random errand that is done in 10 minutes to multi hours epics.

sullen pike
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Sarah's jacket is so cool

viral prairie
sullen pike
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Man, I'm really into it. It's cheesy as heck but it's a bonified space adventure through and through.

maiden leaf
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The bones on it are really solid, there are a few painpoints that I wish they would make better tho

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I am liking the overall experience a lot tho

jaunty hound
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I guess people mostly play this on console huh?

sullen pike
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Not sure. I'm on PC. I'm able to hold 30 FPS on high settings, so I'm happy enough with it.

maiden leaf
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If i had to bet I'd say it's a 50/50 or close to it

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Maybe 60-40 for console

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But I might be wrong

hybrid folio
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yaebounce_chickenjagoo I have a friend playing it on Series S and it runs well.

viral prairie
maiden leaf
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Playing on PC through Gamepass

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I think it runs better than the last time I tried playing Skyrim so that's something

viral prairie
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I’m on series X I’ve had a few times where it wouldn’t load after exiting a door but I’m sure it’ll be fixed.

hybrid folio
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I haven't tried it on Series X yet.

wise oar
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I play it on Series X

viral prairie
dry elk
viral prairie
wise oar
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Cant wait to mess around with mods

viral prairie
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I hope we get some horses.

wise oar
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Both Skyrim and Fallout 4 had them so probably

viral prairie
wise oar
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Space suits are overrated

viral prairie
hard fern
tough laurel
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Oh fuck yes
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sullen pike
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Man, dogfights are no joke in this game.

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I updated the shields, generator, and engines and still had trouble beating a platoon of three spacers.

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I don't want to know about exploits, though.

maiden leaf
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Yeah it's definitely not easy from the get go

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Especially since I'm not putting points in piloting skills for a bit

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I have lockpicking to max, I have some research stuff I want, and most of all I rushed the extra carrying capacity perk because holy shit

tulip isle
sullen pike
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Me too. I started with the Bounty Hunter history to get a few points in piloting for free

tulip isle
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I did the long hauler one

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What can I say....imma a cargo pilot :3

tulip isle
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Are you still flying the Frontier?

sullen pike
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Yeah. I only got the game today. I haven't really done much exploring. I like sticking to the main quest for awhile on these kinds of games. Anyway, this was my first big side quest mission and it had some real whoppers. Fun though.

tulip isle
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Mhm

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I only did 1-2 main mission, doing side ones since

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Put aside the Frontier a while ago....boarded a pirate ship, repainted and renamed it :P

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Also having another ship in progress, building from zero

sullen pike
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Half the reason I went with bounty Hunter was to do that

tulip isle
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:P

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Side missions are fun too tho

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Especially the faction ones

south bay
tough laurel
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that is not autopilot
that's just flying in a random direction Facehoof

south bay
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Pfffffft

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Yeah I thought so

vestal torrent
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Which given how the game works will never actually get you anywhere

tulip isle
maiden leaf
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Yeah I think that everything is actually in a shared space, it's not just pockets

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Well it's pockets but each system is a big pocket

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I actually like the warp system the way it is more than the NMS warp speed

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It always felt like it made the universe looks so much smaller to be able to visually boost from planet to planet in that game

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The cutscene and cut to black does keep the illusion intact that it's very far to me

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But it might just be me

vestal torrent
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I do not think that counts.

maiden leaf
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Oh, nevermind then

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I wonder if the pockets do include the planet and the moon then? Because if they don't they do sell the illusion really well for that

vestal torrent
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The planets and moons are apparently all just 2D textures when you aren't on them, though they're positioned correctly

maiden leaf
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Yeah that much is clear

vestal torrent
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The planets themselves do seem to be contiguous space, though divided up into cells with borders you can't cross.

viral prairie
maiden leaf
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I really don't like the registration fee to be able to sell a ship TBH

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Like, it takes some damn time to steal a ship and drive to someplace to sell it, even without the registration fee it wouldn't really have been that much good cash

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I feel like if I mod anything, that'll be the first thing to go

south bay
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They charge you to register a ship before you can sell it? That’s really lame

maiden leaf
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Yep, it's basically 90% of the profit gone

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I sell 4 rifles and I make as much as a ship, it's nonsense

south bay
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Yeah, screw that

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I guess they realized it would basically break the economy if the player started to farm ships but that’s a pretty clumsy way of dealing with that

maiden leaf
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IDK maybe it would when you get to the later ships, but stealing a ship is a clunky ass process, and it takes a bunch of time, like, at most it would net net you 20-30k
Usually the ship isn't alone, if you want to keep the biggest ship for last since it's more valuable the fight becomes harder

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Well it can be fast if you steal a landed ship, that I'll admit

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Still, even then, selling the ship is already not nearly enough money to break the economy

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That said, some ships start with some pretty decent components so it's still pretty good to steal one if you want to make your own

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It's a significant discount rather than buying one

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south bay
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Not a 10/10 for sure. After doing something like 30 hours so far I’m thinking 8/10 or 8.5/10

maiden leaf
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I think it depends what you are doing at the moment

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There are some parts of the game that are really really engaging, some that feel really undercooked.
Not that it's unexpected, the undercooked parts are the usual bethesda weak points

wicked escarp
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I'd say 7.5 personally. Launch was better than I had expected in a lot of ways, but that final score will take whatever DLC they add into account.

maiden leaf
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Yeah I tend to agree, if nothing else because it got old really fast of having a perpetually full inventory

wicked escarp
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KezXsReXhK4 I did find this video though from a Beth fanboy on Twitch (CohhCarnage). There are slight spoilers, but I think it gives enough info on how NG+ works, his "recommended" way to go about it, and something to consider if and/or when you do it.

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For folks that don't want to watch, just know that when you think you've reached the end, make a hard save in case you want to go back. That said, the game is sorta meant to be continued.

south bay
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Unsurprising given that AMD paid them not to optimize for Nvidia or Intel hardware.

maiden leaf
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So far using a midrange Nvidia card and an intel CPU I had to knock down some options but it's not running terribly

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As I said earlier, I had worse performance with Skyrim special edition whenver that came out

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And so far I had only one NPC getting raptured, so it's not going that bad for bugs either

south bay
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I had much better performance with that than I do with this one. I’m typically seeing the 30-50 FPS range on this game with an i9-12900K and a 3080

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But yeah I’ve only seen one NPC decide that descending into the floor is a good idea

jaunty hound
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this feels... idk, illegal?

quick perch
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not the first time either, I think the hitman games were also sponsored by AMD and they ran way better on AMD hardware than their competitors

low holly
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We also havent had a major patch yet

wise oar
low holly
wise oar
south bay
south bay
tough laurel
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...the book for that is in The Lodge?
I need to look around in my game

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I must have all the snowglobes

wise oar
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I found an antiques shop

sullen pike
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i'm curious what the lable on the tape says

stone roost
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Don't show that to Microsoft.