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civic hawk
man, that was a 9/10 for me
easily
So just to recap slightly:
||holy hell, dual puzzle solving, hell yes ||
|| holy hell, TAG TEAM COMBAT, HELL YEAH ||
|| SUCH a fun boss fight specifically for Zelda plus bonus points for being super cool with its aesthetics and the way it's done with everything looking like you're swiming through a bloodstream ||
again || super cool tag team combat going on, plenty of phases with a bunch of callbacks to previous bosses ,EVEN GANON ||
Soooooooo sick
such a sweet and heartwarming scene, I love that || she looked pretty neutral to all the other creatures until Tri shows up and then she has that big smile ||
Unexpectedly sweet
❗
aaaaand credits
that was so so sweet and awesome
easy 9/10 for me personally that was amazing it was everything I wanted out of a new Zelda minus some extremely minor nitpicks that I don't really ultimately care that much about because everything was just so well done
that was awesome
Final playtime: ~31 hours when going for 100% completion
pretty good
lean pike
nice
civic hawk
so out of pure curiosity and because Echoes was so fresh in my mind I booted up Link's Awakening and I don't know why I'd expect otherwise but man this is a classic ass Zelda experience 
cutting down grass for rupees, various hazards and roadblocks that can only be traversed after gaining a specific item, progression tied down to specific events that you have to follow in a specific order with specific items, this is a classic Zelda alright
I don't really know if I'm gonna finish it, I might just casually play through it since it's pretty short too just to see what's up since I never played Link's Awakening, only did the first dungeon so far, surprised to see how much of this they reused for Echoes although that game plays and feels much better
So glad that, even though it's tied to a specific item, you can also jump in this game 
it just feels so natural after Echoes
No lock-on though, bummer, but even if I don't finish this it's very nice and cool to see all the good lessons they took from this and where they improved for Echoes
civic hawk
just walking my doggie
lean pike
heh
civic hawk
Jesus
Lol I love the phrasing when you get the Strength bracelet, it says: ''The Bracelet of Strength! Now you can finally pick up pots and rocks!''
It really is a ''finally'' moment
lean pike
it's always a bit frustrating playing a game and it feels like the final boss is the UI
I just finished a link to the past
civic hawk
I wonder if Nintendo will ever remake that game the same way they did Link's Awakening since that's the other super popular 2D Zelda
Hope you enjoyed it
Also, as for me:
Chest_Opening.wav
na-na-na-naaaaaaa 🎶 it's here!
And it weighs like a dead body!
lean pike
neat
lean pike
I wonder if Nintendo will ever remake that game the same way they did Link's Awa...
idk, I've been wondering if they intend to remake the Oracle games, perhaps as a sort of squished together version with the missing third game elements added in
civic hawk
I'd like that, especially since I've wanted to play those for a while
Definitely seems like the game where a bundle would make more sense than separate games especially now
lean pike
It's like
I get the impression they wanted to make it and then sell dual/triple zelda games like Pokemon but I don't think it sold particularly well so that idea kind of died
civic hawk
I don't know if Zelda is the kind of franchise that would work well with that Pokemon style dual release, I think it was a cool experimentation and a neat novelty but I doubt it would've been a good idea in the long run at least to me
I think what ''killed'' those games the most is that they came out after the 2000s, for the GBC when the GBA was already out and was the hot new console and also Majora's Mask and Windwaker were out by that time too
So I'm assuming that there wasn't as much hype about those as much as the other ones, but they've always seemed like good games, I really dig their aesthetics and I would love to see a LA style remake for em, maybe with a different artstyle though...
lean pike
I think the novelty part of it is part of the reason it hasn't really been remade or anything. It'd require a lot of work to make it happen
civic hawk
Would it? How long are those games anyway? I think they could definitely be bundled together as one game, or maybe a collection
If they decided to expand them though... yeah
Even Link's Awakening remake seems to be pretty short, like maybe 9 hours ish?
lean pike
I think they're both full length games
lean pike
like they're made like pokemon games
it's weird
like you have the Maku tree, which looks like this in ages and this is seasons and so on
civic hawk
oh wow
Link's Awakening is also weird like that where it has so much Mario stuff in it
I wonder if the oracle games even have weird pokemon like transferable data stuff
Maybe instead of pokemons you can transfer items, though I don't know how that'd work
lean pike
well the connection was a secret passcode or something that caused the game to change slightly and/or open the last boss, ganon
civic hawk
That's a bit crazy to lock that behind needing both games 
also speaking of the Ganon from Echoes looks weirdly a lot like the one from Oracle, specifically
It's funny seeing how he goes from a silly little pig guy to nightmare creature
lean pike
Minish Cap is interesting but it's also kind of wacky
like the whole kinstone thing seems to be partly random
the cap is also a person
which is weird
sharp violet
All good things
civic hawk
Man I keep forgetting to start playing Minish Cap
I really should
It's one of the very few Zeldas I haven't touched yet
wet compass
https://bsky.app/profile/pikat.io/post/3l6wdxhwgc223 (two images)
lean pike
I really should
it's okay. It's not a bad game I suppose but it has a lot, and I mean a lot, of early handheld Zelda energy in it
civic hawk
That's fine by me, I'm mostly interested in seeing what's going on with the story with that one but I fully expect the overall game to feel pretty similar to the classic Zelda experiences
unique dagger
have you guys seen this commercial ? it's one of my favorites of all time https://youtu.be/cjpHzLYHkwA?feature=shared
civic hawk
I kinda hate how good the dancing is and how incredible those costumes and set designs are
It's always fun seeing the classic Zeldas depicted 'realistically', I've always been of the opinion that Link's classic outfit isn't silly looking at all and fits perfectly well with a medieval fantasy setting
Also that's totally a girl playing Link so cool to see they were going for the androgynous look so early on
unique dagger
yea iirc from the Hyrule Historia Link was designed to be androgynous from the start which i like
civic hawk
Afterwords Zelda joins Link and continues the obnoxious dance
This commercial is not quite up to the nerdiness of the two Legend of Zelda american commercials, but certainly on par in strangeness.
Ah yes, that nerd attitude from the 2010s where anything silly is equal to cancer and should be eliminated
I remember those times
unique dagger
the American Zelda 1 commercial actually does suck though https://youtu.be/uI3rO3PbYOo?feature=shared
"whoa! nice graphics!"
civic hawk
It's really funny to me as a non-american seeing how anything from those times even up until the late 90s would so aggressively warp anything it was marketing to cater to the radical super tubular cool hip hop style of the times, they did the same thing with Dragonball GT where the beautiful opening song was replaced with STEP INTO THE GRAND TOUR GRAND TOUR GRAND TOUR, I feel like the same thing happened with Sonic where the american/european Sonic was extremely different from the Japanese Sonic at the time of the classic games and even up to Adventure
I don't wanna judge too much because I understand it's different cultures and different times, but it's funny to me just how aggressively the US does it in comparison to other regions
unique dagger
you mentioning Japanese vs American Sonic reminds me of this great video https://youtu.be/GsxBa6-tTMc?feature=shared
civic hawk
the video I'm thinking of in particular is a comparison video between English Sonic voices and Japanese Sonic voices, it sounds innocuous but it really does make a huge difference in the feeling you get from the characters and the script and it also makes for an interesting comparison point to compare how different cultures appeal to kids and larger audiences at the time
unique dagger
oooh yeah i think ive seen that one
civic hawk
have you guys seen this commercial ? it's one of my favorites of all time https:...
I think this video is ever so slightly sharper and crisper in quality
the song definitely sounds better, apparently it's called Game Boys by a group called Scha Dara Parr
heavy pilot
Got 3 Link amiibo I wanted
bright girder
the totk one is their best amiibo ever on god
civic hawk
Pretty good little video, really really fun concept, it actually doesn't look half bad at all 
it would never in a million years be done nowadays, it'd probably be all 3D, but it's a very very interesting look
Videos like these make gamedev seem way less daunting, just kinda making a small chunk of a level and starting out with that, progressing from shapes and squares acting as terrain and objects and playable characters to fully animated sprites and backgrounds, slowly building on top of all that stuff, hell it even looks inviting (that's how they get ya)
tepid depot
and here comes the Ninten cops
civic hawk
I sure hope not lol it seems less like a full blown project and more like a very small test without a public release or anything so I want to say it's probably fine
heavy pilot
As an ocarina of time fan I am very happy right now
unique dagger
i love the Biggoron Sword
wet compass
BOTW or TOTK?
heavy pilot
Botw
wet compass
ah
then yeah you can get a variety of older weapons and other unique goodies from those
its pure random chance tho
woeful vale
"Ehhh it's a spinoff, just stick it with the others"
civic hawk
I mean it's not really though, none of those games are spin offs, but they do have a tendency to put all the 2D Zeldas in the same timeline for some reason, I kinda wish they didn't
The one 2D Zelda game that doesn't use the same overall style and aesthetic as basically every other 2D Zelda that uses the Zelda 1-ALTTP visual style/shares timeline with is Minish Cap and that game is surprisingly at the very top of the timeline right under Skyward Sword
lean pike
the real timeline split is that in OoT Link got squished flat and therefore was stuck in the 2d timeline
civic hawk
You joke but that's literally just A Link Between Worlds 
plain pelican
lean pike
HOW DID YOU FILM ME IN MY ROOM?!
plain pelican
civic hawk
Great Fairies in this game are so cute 
civic hawk
I'm no stranger to how old school Zeldas play, in terms of how to do progression and exploration and all, but man does it still take me a second to adjust coming into this after Echoes
I should get around to Minish Cap once I'm done with this little adventure, it's the one game I know the least amount of lore wise
sharp violet
Minish Cap was a favorite of mine when I was little
bright girder
Minish goat mentioned 
civic hawk
the trees are speaking 
I love that you pick up a bunch of random items in this game and the game is like ''you have no idea what this item is for but keep it anyways!''
heavy pilot
The ocarina of time set has been completed
wet compass
nice.
tepid depot
civic hawk
unique dagger
...huh, apparently the Leviathan skeletons in BotW/TotK are the remains of the whale gods from Skyward Sword, Levias. idk why i never put that together, but that fills me with sadness for some reason
there's lots of whale deities in Zelda, like the Wind Fish from Link's Awakening and the previously mentioned Levias. i wonder why
woeful vale
civic hawk
I haven't seen this video but I'm so interested to see it later and see if any points in it are stuff we've talked about here before back when we were all playing TOTK
maybe I'll also get to see what other people may criticize about TOTK, since I basically never bothered to look up any opinions or videos about this game at all, I was pretty content and happy with my own opinions I made by playing and the discussions we had in here 
unique dagger
what a bad title and thumbnail
civic hawk
Well I haven't seen the video yet so I can't say, but people are allowed to have opinions on things even if they're a little passionate about it, plus youtube favors titles and thumbnails like this because more people are likely to click videos of this type unfortunately
lean pike
I wouldn't say it's bad but it is weirdly not all that you'd expect from a game that was in development for so long and existing as a major release
woeful vale
it gets attention, unfortunately 
bright girder
greatest game eva made
civic hawk
I don't think any one of us thinks the game is bad by any means, but I definitely had a few things to say about it for sure
One of the things I criticized the most is how it really felt like BOTW 2.0, not BOTW 2, because the entire structure of the game and the story is almost identical to BOTW, it's just that it's different things now, so you have different powers, the 4 sages are different, ganon is different, malice is gloom, the king is now a furry, the ancient race with ancient/futuristic tech is now a different one, but it's all the same thing, and in some aspects it weirdly completely skips bringing up BOTW to the point that some characters that you should have met in BOTW seem to not know you at all in TOTK, we've talked a bit about this specific point I remember back when we were all starting to play the game
So part of why I share that is because I'm interested to see, whenever I get around to watching the video, what other people have to say about this game since my whole point of reference is just the discussions we've had here but I don't know how most other people feel about this game especially when it comes to criticizing it
unique dagger
gonna replay BOTW
unique dagger
greatest game eva made
do you like TotK or BotW more
bright girder
unique dagger
is it cannibalism if a bokoblin eats a boar
wet compass
Why would it be
unique dagger
cause they're both pigs
wet compass
pig like, sure, but they're not the same species? i think humans can eat monkey fine, not that i'd try
woeful vale
so when do you think Babish will make the monkey brains from Indiana Jones
unique dagger
i think im gonna replay Link's Awakening, ive had a hankering for it for a while now
sharp violet
WAKE UP
civic hawk
I'm halfway through a playthrough myself, I kinda stopped because I got distracted by other stuff
I don't remember how many instruments I had left to get 
bright girder
Im gonna start that new Zelda game today
You actually play as Princess Zelda in this one
lean pike
I thought you had already played it
bright girder
nop
bright girder
Just got that heart piece on the pillar in the middle of the water
im a genius for this one
bright girder
Just got ||the cat suit|| this is a good game now
||the frog ring|| helps too..
now if only zelda could attack by herself
lean pike
||Zelda is too rich to attack by herself, she has servants for that||
wet compass
||no she has link for that||
lean pike
||Link doesn't even get paid smh||
wet compass
||yes he does, he gets paid in pot
he's just a lil' confused about it is all||
bright girder
Bow bro..
wet compass
your bow collection isnt also all high-end and valuable?
bright girder
ye but you'll never run out ever
wet compass
...well you're not wrong
civic hawk
That's why I put every single valuable weapon shield and bow in my house where they'll remain for the rest of time and never be used
wet compass
exactly!
lean pike
this new warriors game is going to peeve people lol
bright girder
its kinda stupid
AoC was cinema because you had 8 unique champions with real personalities
Revali my goat, Sidon my king
The new game has Zelda, Rauru, Sonia and Mineru
and 4 sages that are all the same npc
lean pike
Revali my goat, Sidon my king
now Rauru will be your goat
bright girder
He might be a goat but he will never be the goat
though theres absolutely no chance theyre going to do the game without Link so he will get time travelled there which means they are going to do the exact same as AoC and time travel the champions too
(they are also selling amiibos for them so...)
lean pike
amiibos for AoI already?
bright girder
Amiibos for the 4 current sages
bright girder
Tullin, Sidon, Yonubo, Small Urbosa
lean pike
oh right
another weird ass thing they pulled in that game
personally, I'm rather hyped
the price of the console is killing me though
bright girder
Nintendo owns my wallet......
though I dont care that much about the console price its the games that are whack
bright girder
canada right
lean pike
yeah
bright girder
my kroner arent doing much better
lean pike
I think the last game I bought was 90 dollars
bright girder
what was the last game I bought... I never buy games..
Echoes of Wisdom for 649 NoK
that game wasnt very good
bright girder
fighting was way too annoying
just put down guys and wait for them to clumsily handle the fight
lean pike
oh I just spammed them
bright girder
yeah it was ass
unique dagger
im replaying BotW and i forgot how pretty this game is
bright girder
I want to really badly but im holding out for the switch 2 edition
unique dagger
that's fair
i was gonna play TotK right after but maybe i'll wait till i get the Switch 2
bright girder
Have you found Cryonis?
civic hawk
i was gonna play TotK right after but maybe i'll wait till i get the Switch 2
Probably the best decision if Switch 2 is coming out anytime soon honestly
TOTK is like easily a 100+ hour experience I'd probably want to enjoy the better version of it
lean pike
are they enhancing the Breath and Tears at all for the switch 2?
civic hawk
Gene Park was on the Castle Super Beast podcast a week ago and he talked about some of his hands on experience with the updated version and yeah he mentioned having played TOTK at 60 fps
visual folio
sometimes, the algorithm gets us
wet compass
https://youtu.be/MlrY3URE06M this video deserves some recognition
Sp0ntaneous has been making video game music videos somewhat sporadically for some 15 years now, using a variety of instruments and editing styles, and spent the last 3 years making this monster video which uses edited clips of his past works as the music
It's insanely good
visual folio
oh yeah I've seen those
unique dagger
im going to play Ocarina of Time
civic hawk
Which version?
I was thinking of replaying it too, but I have to finish Link's Awakening first
unique dagger
da original
40 rupees for a shield is crazy !!!
i have to get used to the controls, im not used to very little camera control
civic hawk
Recompiled version or emulated?
I really like some of the additions of the 3DS version that would make me want to play that one over the original, mostly the quick swap is really useful
bright girder
You should play the randomizer and just dont randomize anything but keep the QoL it adds 
unique dagger
fuck you Mido
unique dagger
Recompiled version or emulated?
the version that's on the NSO app, so i think emulated
civic hawk
Yeah those are all emulated
I hope they fixed all the visual glitches it had when it first launched
Actually, now that I think about it, there is one game I could play that I've been thinking about for a while now because it's the one Zelda game I never played and somehow dodged what it's about for most of the experience other than very small moments and it's Windwaker
unique dagger
i remember hearing about the Gold Skulltula tokens, do you get something good if you get them all ?
civic hawk
Yes but the final reward is a little bit ''useless'' just because you get it at such a late point in the game that it's kinda not worth it unless you just want it for completion
10 tokens is for the big wallet, 20 tokens is for a special item that lets you know about hidden items, 30 tokens is the biggerer wallet, 40 tokens for bombchus, 50 is a heart piece and 100 is the infinite rupees
unique dagger
infinite rupees ?????????
civic hawk
You get an unlimited supply of gold rupees
unique dagger
holy cow
Queen Gohma down !
the Great Deku Tree's death made me weirdly emotional :(
it keeps tripping me up that Z targeting doesn't bring up the shield and i have to press R to bring it up
wet compass
the Great Deku Tree's death made me weirdly emotional :(
It's pretty brutal for right at the start of the game
bright girder
@unique dagger Have you met the blue wizard yet
woeful vale
blue wizard? in OoT?
it's been a few years
ohhhhh, the ||observatory guy from MM||
unique dagger
<@149966637385121792> Have you met the blue wizard yet
no not yet
ive only just gotten to Hyrule Castle
woeful vale
He's in the Market in Hyrule Castle Town so you should be able to talk to him
visual folio
I never felt that strongly about it when I played, but for me it was as simple as "she keeps saying 'hey listen' when she has nothing to tell me that she hasn't told me several times before"
wet compass
she's fine the first time you play i suppose but most people who complain about her have played since the game's release
someone poking you once is fine, someone poking you 100 times is gonna result in them being punched in the face
visual folio
unique dagger
i would never punch someone
wet compass
<:trixieping:622618039883661348>
its exactly that feeling
unique dagger
living in hyrule would suck they don't have Big Macs
well that and also the Horrors™️
wet compass
zombies are very real
wet compass
...thats a good point, i dont recall a single fast food resteraunt in fallout
but you do get plenty of diners
so its not like you wouldnt have decent food
pre-war that is
post-war... well good luck
unique dagger
Big Mac with a delicious Sunset Sarsaparilla
bright girder
i dont really understand why people dont like navi yet
SAME
caps
have you met the blue wizard yet
visual folio
I don't even remember this "blue wizard", why are we waiting for cap to find them
bright girder
he is my favorite background character
unique dagger
holy shit............
wet compass
use your slingshot on the windows!
unique dagger
i can't even say how many times ive heard Zelda's Lullaby, but it still makes me a little emotional
wet compass
you didnt shoot the windows?
bright girder
can you take a picture of your screen like this for me when you talk to the blue wizard for the first time thanks
unique dagger
you didnt shoot the windows?
no i had already walked up to Zelda when you said that 😔
bright girder
also can you talk about how bad the controls are when you play the slingshot minigame
unique dagger
the one in Castle Town ?
bright girder
yeah
wet compass
oh man i remember being pissed off with the controls with emulation before i fixed it via steam big picture
unique dagger
yeah i burned through all my rupees playing it lmao
bright girder
alright alright
now check this out https://www.twitch.tv/artirella/clip/SullenExquisiteTaroFUNgineer-BTWtRbVFqEmVbwxv
unique dagger
holy shit
unique dagger
ok i shot one window and got 20 bucks and the other one threw a bomb at me !
bright girder
Just wait until you find out about gerudo archery....
wet compass
oh god
bright girder
unique dagger
i forgot Impa used to be hot
unique dagger
Age of calamity was just a few years ago
ok true i had forgotten
bright girder
I saw you talk about gold skulltulas before. You only really need 50/100 for the real rewards
unique dagger
oh ok
civic hawk
i forgot Impa used to be hot
always has been
civic hawk
Just wait until you find out about gerudo archery....
obligatory 3DS OOT with gyro aiming mention
It's so good
bright girder
Yeah 3ds is the best way to play vanilla
unique dagger
why is Epona scared of me :(
unique dagger
Zephyr Breeze isn't green he's like a blue
bright girder
nah
wet compass
why is Epona scared of me :(
Because you're a new person
Gotta earn her trust
wet compass
She likes carrots
But that's not how you do it
unique dagger
oh
wet compass
And you get two uses!
I can tell you what to do if you straight up want to know
Its not very complex or hidden or anything tho, im sure you could figure it out on your own
bright girder
@unique dagger can we get an OoT update
woeful vale
Have you met Dampe?
unique dagger
no i didn't see him
bright girder
Dampe isnt as strong as the blue wizard
lean pike
no i didn't see him
sounds like it really put a dampe on your playthrough
unique dagger
@bright girder ???? this the blue wizard
civic hawk
It is written, only the blue wizard can defeat Ganon
bright girder
Makes sense that Cap quit playing OoT after meeting the blue wizard
bright girder
yeah you already peaked
unique dagger
maybe i'll play more but idk
bright girder
you know the meme with the puzzle piece where its sometimes all a person is missing is just one piece
civic hawk
I mean I kinda get it, sometimes I'll find a new game I get super into, or think randomly of an old game I love I really wanna replay and set it all up and start playing and then I play it for like 4 hours and I'm done
It kinda happened with my Link's Awakening playthrough, I kinda wanna go back and finish that though
I could boot up my TOTK too and just kinda 100% that game's quests for fun too..
bright girder
the thing is Cap if you play until you become an adult the blue wizard will have new dialogue
unique dagger
what's the consensus on Skyward Sword (don't yell at me for not continuing OoT Artiks )
civic hawk
People really hated it at the time, the motion controls, the way it's incredibly hand-holdy and very linear, a bit of an empty ''open world'', and some people may have not vibed with some story elements, but over time people have mellowed out a bit on its opinion, not necessarily to the point of saying ''oh god we were so wrong this is a masterpiece'', but definitely to the point of saying ''maybe we over-hated on this at the time''
civic hawk
I think it's a nice looking Zelda game, it's still Zelda just like any of the 'smaller' Zelda games like the Oracles, Link's Awakening, Link Between Worlds, Four Swords, it's still a Zelda game through and through so you can expect all that Zelda charm in terms of visuals, music, storytelling, characters, interesting world, aesthetics
I think there's definitely stuff in SS that people would like, but I wouldn't blame someone for starting it out and then stopping because they kinda get bored of it or a little frustrated
I think the HD Switch version gets ridd of some of the extra fluff so it may be a good version to play
For example you can't skip cutscenes in vanilla SS but you can on the HD version
bright girder
Skyward Sword great game
It has a character called Groose hes the best character in the franchise (tied with Sidon and Revali)
lean pike
The switch version is better
bright girder
thats real
civic hawk
I knew I was probably forgetting something when I was backing up all my files and stuff, I remembered to backup the emulators but I completely forgot to backup all my saves
My 100+ hr BOTW, 100+hr TOTK and 100% Echoes of Wisdom plus my 50% completion Link's Awakening files are all gone 
the good news though is that's the only important thing I forgot to backup and I can always just play them to completion again
the others I'm not so bummed about, but man that TOTK file took me so long to do I was actually planning to go back to it and actually get 100% on the game once and for all, my house was so nice too, I even had an entire altar for Riju and everything... 
I don't know if I have it in me to dedicate 100+ hours to TOTK again...
unique dagger
do you guys remmeber the aliens in Majora's Mask
they looked like the Flatwoods Monster
unique dagger
oh fr ?
unique dagger
ah fuck it, i was gonna wait for Switch 2 to replay BotW but i wanna play it really bad
unique dagger
flames
unique dagger
trial of the sword is awesome
bright girder
i think trial of the sword master mode is the hardest thing they have put in a zelda game
unique dagger
ive never even tried Master Mode it seems so hard
bright girder
you have to sneakstrike a lot because everything has a stupid amount of health
so I wore the sheika armor a lot
bright girder
Just beat Breath of the Wild Nintendo Switch 2 edition
unique dagger
flamesss
plain pelican
Yes but are any of them better than link's awakening dx?
plain pelican
I need to finish that version
Tbh I'm not sure i can even do a vanilla run anymore lol
plain pelican
We just did a competitive in-person team sync archipelago game yesterday with ladx and majora's mask
plain pelican
2 teams playing the same seed, one LADX and one MM. First team to both goals wins
visual folio
ah, I'm used to randos calling that a "race"
plain pelican
They did 4 remains and the final boss
Teams were llisandur on ladx with dessyreqt on mm vesus me on ladx with dessyreqt's wife on mm. I goaled first but they won overall
bright girder
you always need 4 remains but in the blitz settings only 1 region has checks afaik
plain pelican
Afaik it was the whole game
bright girder
Thats a lot of game
plain pelican
It took about 5.5 hours or so
Shuffling in great fairy rewards kinda screwed us though, as well as a slow hint rate for mm
lean pike
I've finally started playing windwaker
civic hawk
To this day the one Zelda game I have never played and know the least about
I think I know about pretty much every single other Zelda except this one
lean pike
it feels like a very odd game
plain pelican
i love windwaker
wet compass
WW is great and you should play it
tepid depot
wet compass
perfect
visual peak
unique dagger
i forgot how fun Major tests of strength were
civic hawk
Ah this reminds me I should get started on the absolutely grueling task of replaying TOTK and getting that full completion save file I lost when I transfered to a new SSD...
Oh I am not looking forward to pulling another all-nighter doing shrines on the surface, sky and underground for like 8 hours
Maybe I should play Link's Awakening first....
unique dagger
the remake ?
civic hawk
I need to re-do Echoes too but luckily that game is also pretty short, like around 7 ish hours on a replay and you can get every side quest done
yes the Switch version
unique dagger
oh man it felt really good to put the Champion's Tunic on
bright girder
true
civic hawk
the champion's leathers version is my preferred redesign for that
especially when dyed green, it looks really good
although for literally a good 60% of my totk playthrough I wore the TP tunic and the OOT tunic
Thank god that those are just in the game in TOTK and not amiibo exclusive like BOTW
I had to bust out a whole save editor software to get those in BOTW to bypass the stupid amiibo limit
How insane is that I'm literally paying you for this stupid piece of plastic and you're putting a limit on it nintendo? Who cares if I get infinite resources it's a single player game!
unique dagger
it's so weird going back to BotW, Magnesis feels so barebones compared to Ultrahand
wet compass
because its literally the same mechanic but less
unique dagger
i'm aware
yesterday i tried to hold r to rotate the block i was holding and accidentally threw my weapon away 
unique dagger
omg i love her
unique dagger
i enjoy how Purah has an in depth explanation for why she's small but Robbie is just built that way
wet compass
Robbie is small because he's ancient
civic hawk
the classic anime trope of old women suddenly losing like 40% of their height once they get to a certain age
wet compass
P much
unique dagger
Robbie is small because he's ancient
oh like Yoda
civic hawk
I think Yoda was always small though
hell baby Yoda even already came out looking old
unique dagger
true
unique dagger
though Grogu is like, 50 something
unique dagger
i still get crazy heart palpitations when i pull the Master Sword in BotW
the music 😩
unique dagger
fuck fuck fuck i missed the ancient arrow shot on the silver maned lynel
i did it 😎
holy shit that was nerve wracking, i was worried i was gonna run out of weapons before defeating the lynel
bright girder
trial of the sword is fkn awesome
unique dagger
true
unique dagger
interesting video
https://youtu.be/PUYmfneNc1w?si=VfBoS4oJDIG-DyBE
civic hawk
I mean yeah he's not gonna stay young forever
I don't think they'll ever put an old version of anyone on the games other than Ganondorf though
unique dagger
it's a theory that Gramps from Link Between Worlds is the Hero from Link to the Past. the title kind of sucks
civic hawk
aaaaahhhhhh
yeah probably I mean
it's in the same timeline as all the classic games because apparently Nintendo is deathly afraid of making a 2D Zelda game in a brand new world that isn't just ALTTP again but it's likely that because of how clumped together those games are timeline wise it could be either a previous playable Link or just one of the many previous Links that probably have existed throughout history
unique dagger
i think aside from Gramps (if this is true) Hero of Time is the only one to appear outside of his own games ?
unique dagger
oh yeah !
unique dagger
they should make divine beast animal crackers
woeful vale
bright girder
they did
round locust
I haven’t played ALBW in a while but I want to
round locust
This was a cool character from ALBW.
civic hawk
Arguably the Midna of ALBW
(c) nico-neko/nicolasgravelqc
unique dagger
BotW is one of my favorite games of all time but man fuck the aparatus shrines lmao
lean pike
fake, link doesn't talk
civic hawk
except for all those times he does talk
unique dagger
missing one shrine and i cant find it on my map i have :twicrazy:
bright girder
@unique dagger my girlfriend is playing botw as one of our first real video games
the biggest struggle is the camera
unique dagger
first real video game being BotW means it's all downhill from there 😔
bright girder
nah theres totk
unique dagger
ok true
unique dagger
visual folio
is it just me, or does rxddit drop the audio and cause only the first ~10s of video to play
I have to click the link to actually watch the video
unique dagger
it drops the audio for me but not the 10s thing
civic hawk
dude woah I can't believe it
''so who's that gonna be? it's probably like, tingle...''
''KA ME....''
''oh that's actually goku''
woeful vale
HE'S T-POSIN HOLY SHIT
civic hawk
this runs like shit holy hell
I can't remember if I somehow modded it to run at 30 fps consistently back then
unique dagger
yeah,...... that's something i didn't remember from when i first played it. using Ultrahand really chugs the framerate
visual folio
oooh I can read that
civic hawk
finally got my threads
it's running a little better now, but still chugs under 30 consistently....
visual folio
would that be the Fire Dragon's job or the Light Dragon's? 
civic hawk
Light Dragon, Fire Dragon comes from Din which was the goddess that created earth originally so I imagine it would have more ties with the earth itself than something like the sun
Certain mythologies and beliefs get really specific like that, like how the chinese elements include wood and metal
visual folio
yeah I basically have the Chinese elements (among many other random myths) memorized after modding Nine Sols
I don't recall Zelda lore getting anywhere near that deep but you make a good argument about the Fire Dragon
civic hawk
I need to play that one some day I just remember hearing talks about it and thinking ''oh it looks cool'' and never really looking into it again
civic hawk
I don't recall Zelda lore getting anywhere near that deep but you make a good ar...
well of course every game kinda works differently from each other but Din Farore and Nayru seem to be a constant and for those the concept of what each represents kinda gets very specific like that?
Din created the earth and cultivated the lands, Farore is said to have basically created life in general? As in every life form so I'd imagine animals humans hylians etc, Nayru is weird because the language isn't super clear and it's really vague but it's implied she basically creates the laws of the universe and passed down her ''wisdom''
so it gets pretty weird and specific in a similar way ish
civic hawk
huh, I bypassed that entire cutscene
I used Ascend to go up the temple to the very top, then I climbed down carefully to an area I could take out one of the gliders and I just glided down here past the door without even opening it
I can't remember if you get anything out of it or if it's just the cutscene
Ah, I can't jump down, the game won't actually let me
visual folio
of course they knew
civic hawk
fine
visual folio
did you get rewind before the door?
civic hawk
I did but then I got curious and went all the way up the temple and I couldn't get back down 
so I thought wait a minute I can just go around
aaaand I'm gonna have to re-enter the temple because I can't trigger the scene from this side
Hah, well at least I figured out a fun way to do it, I used a glider and a fan to basically glide from the very top of the temple and make a big 180° right turn so I'd be right at the entrance
aaaahhhhhh
I needed the last orb to get past the door
I forgot about that
right, now I go back to the very first room in the game so I can get all the stuff there with my new powers
lol I love Link's dialogue choices in this
going up to the goddess' statue she asks if you want a heart container in exchange for 4 orbs, you can say yes I want a heart container or you can say ''eh, I'd rather have nothing''
big ''koitsu...'' energy
alright off the island finally (again)
adventure time let's gooo wheeeeeeeeewwwww
first order of business, get as many upgrades as possible and get the cool tunic sets, then we can worry about saving Hyrule
luckily the good tunics (OOT, TP, SS) aren't tied to amiibos this time
unique dagger
the Wild set wasn't tied to an amiibo
civic hawk
I meant the good ones
it's kinda the point of that armor set but if it didn't look so raggedy it would be a cool modernization of the classic look, I don't hate it
the actual 'classic' set is good it just looks too plain for this more high detail style
also makes him look a bit naked with the whole no pants thing
which I guess is a good thing depending on the person
unique dagger
yeah i never liked the lack of pants
i mean there are pants but they're like booty shorts
civic hawk
Finally got the glider
holy hell it was a mistake to not directly go to Prunia's place and do that whole scripted sequence beforehand
I couldn't even get any towers before that
civic hawk
this artist was giving Link some absolutely ridiculous upskirt shots jeez
but anyways this account posts some cool restorations of all these old Zelda artworks from various promotional material or just supplemental material
civic hawk
Alright, back down here again....
well, at least this time after I upgraded my PC it seems to run a little etter, last time I was here it was running at a constant smooth buttery 14 fps
oh yeah there's bone horsies down here
unique dagger
ye
woeful vale
unique dagger
i think you can register them too ? i dont remember
visual folio
I remember doing that once or twice while I was down here, but I don't know how you'd ever get them to the surface
civic hawk
You cannot register them as horses because the stable owners are too scared but you can ride them and I assume it's the ''intended'' way to travel the underground until people found out you can make the hoverbike
zero huh....
well I'll actually try to fill out the encyclopedia this playthrough maybe
visual folio
it can't be that intended when huge parts of the underground are impossible to traverse by horse
what is it with video games that implement horse riding also making the horses not viable for exploration
unique dagger
have you played Elden Ring
visual folio
yeah, literally magic teleporting horse seems to be the only way to do it
wet compass
well I'll actually try to fill out the encyclopedia this playthrough maybe
god i never bothered
visual folio
(I haven't and don't want to play it but I have watched someone else play all of it so I'm fairly familiar with the content)
wet compass
goodluck
civic hawk
Oh yeah they go into the holes in the ground in this game and don't technically ever de-spawn like in botw
ugh these things too....
wet compass
well well well
civic hawk
jesus this game is so full of so many useless things to collect
I'm remembering now just how exhausted every game session was for me with this game because there's just too many things
civic hawk
god i never bothered
I wasn't trying to get 100% the first playthrough but I got pretty close and I already spent 100+ hours on this so I bet I could do it again
visual folio
Oh yeah they go into the holes in the ground in this game and don't technically ...
yeah, one time I rode/followed one down and up through the holes just because
well I'll actually try to fill out the encyclopedia this playthrough maybe
...
I'm remembering now just how exhausted every game session was for me with this game because there's just too many things
civic hawk
''Oh goodness I'm so glad someone found me down here, can you help me out?''
''I'm kind of in a hurry 
''
wet compass
https://www.zeldadungeon.net/breath-of-the-wild-interactive-map/ well this should help you cross things off
civic hawk
<:ppinkiethonkers:1116739552342708364>
One thing doesn't take away the other, I will try to 100% the game this time around.... it's gonna probably take me about 100+ hours like the first time around anyways because of the sheer number of things there are to do
I didn't even try to do all the wells the first time but I might try this time just for the sake of it
I'm definitely gonna do a bunch of shrines first thing first though because this game is unplayable for me without my precious hearts and stamina 
civic hawk
https://www.zeldadungeon.net/breath-of-the-wild-interactive-map/ well this shoul...
That's the BOTW map but yeah I did use the TOTK interactive map when I was playing it
which thankfully even existed because the game was like a week or two weeks old at the time
but a lot of things were still inaccurate
civic hawk
gah I keep crashing
also I just got my first 50 rupees I didn't realize I was carrying around no money
oh that's.... interesting
this is where the game autosaved before I crashed, but I already got the chest so I have no way to get out...
at least I wouldn't if I didn't have the furry hand ability
civic hawk
Oh god I got a system service exception error blue screen? That never happened before
I think it might have been a CPU thing... I might've updated some parts of my computer since last time but I bet the CPU still can't really handle TOTK + using the computer for literally anything else, and I got a similar error when I got a crash after I was playing Hades 2 and recording at the same time... it's definitely not a drivers thing since I updated almost all my drivers and I even updated my BIOS which I hadn't since 2022
that was scary but, noted, I might have to only be running TOTK and minimize other activity on the computer then (actually now that I've been looking this up it seems like it could be an nvidia drivers issue and a gpu issue instead..? so that's fun... looking up specific errors for these crashes I've had are giving me so many different answers I don't even know which one is the correct one)
civic hawk
Oh wow, this is incredibly strange
So... after that blue screen I went back to load that save file to get some duplicated items going to prepare
When I go to load my games there's no games at all to load, just the last autosave right before the crash, and when I load in, I have no upgrades, no items, nothing, and I'm in the starting area of the game which isn't even loaded properly at all, it's on a black void and the stairs lead nowhere
so.... huh
welp
Well that's a huge bummer....
yeah some other people have gotten this issue on ryujinx and yuzu apparently, save file is corrupted and fully borked, gotta start from scratch, so thanks for that BSOD windows...
man, do I even want to restart that playthrough? I guess I wasn't that far but still... it was like 5 hours or so already
civic hawk
Okay thank goodness someone actually uploaded their save file after doing all the boring tutorial stuff
It's not exactly all the stuff I had but... better than nothing...
I'm gonna test this out, I want to see if I get that same BSOD I got while I was playing Hades the other day because this is really strange and I never had this issue before
Perfect, dupe glitch works too, time to scam the nearest merchant out of every single rupee they have with my suspicious 500 rubies
unique dagger
PINK HAIR LINK :lfg:
wet compass
lean pike
AoI is a lot of fun
bright girder
I got that for christmas but havent had the chance to start it yet
visual folio
visual folio
59:15 "floating pieces of the labyrinth, which always require you to ascend directly upward"
are you sure? I got to all(?) of them by flying horizontally from another sky island
huh, I don't remember carting around these 4 statue eyes at all
unique dagger
oh i remember that
i should really replay totk
im waiting. a little bit because i just finished my BotW replay
visual folio
~1:37 yeah, IIRC by far the most non-linear thing I did in my TotK playthrough was fully exploring the thunderhead isles long before I found the puzzle on the ground that was supposed to clear the storm. It's hard to think of anything in any other game that felt quite like that.
visual folio
now this is some deep lore
lean pike
I read spirit tracks as being followed by 'my bed'
I thought the dude played it so much they were sleeping on a bed of Spirit Tracks somehow
civic hawk
Mmmmmmmm, BOTW Link fanart with the Hylian set, I like it
(c) Max Forward / studystudiomax
also it looks like the objective best tunic in most 2D Zeldas which is the red tunic you get at the end of the game 
they also draw a lot of the animated series Zelda specifically
unique dagger
also it looks like the objective best tunic in most 2D Zeldas which is the red t...
debatable for Link's Awakening i suppose, whether you prefer more damage or more defense. personally i prefer blunic in LA because the seashell sword already does a ton of damage
civic hawk
actually a fun fact about zelda I didn't know
or I guess, a fun theory
adding to the theory from the pinned comment: Kafei's quest involves the Sun mask as opposed to Link's moon mask
civic hawk
do we get like a ''1 free meme post'' ticket because this was too good to not post here
bright girder
im sick so its time to play the new hit game zelda age of prison
civic hawk
I'm a little baffled Nintendo hasn't ported OOT3D into the Switch
seems like a massive money maker
tepid depot
I still like the lore of the forest temple
unique dagger
what is the lore ? im not familiar with Ocarina backstory
civic hawk
the only weird thing I'm aware of is that, if you'll notice as you enter, the forest temple doesn't really seem like a temple at all
it's almost like a manor of some sort instead
so it was clearly built with the intent of having people living in it rather than as a place of worship by people or creatures from the forest
tepid depot
well, I guess I should speculative theory because nothing is hard confirmed (as per zelda lore)
civic hawk
it's also the only place to have a ghost of ganondorf in it rather than some sort of corrupted creature too
a 5+ year old zelda lore video I haven't watched?
lean pike
zelda never confirms nothing
civic hawk
looking at the most recent videos of the channel being mostly Wild-era related reminded me of what Vinny said almost at the beginning of the zelda 1 fan remake video I shared where he flat out says he couldn't give less fucks about the whole BOTW timeline anymore and I kinda agree
he also shared a story about a friend who actually started playing the franchise with BOTW and then immediately jumped into Zelda 1 and actually really liked it and then jumped off to different games from that and gave him a ranking which I thought was really interesting with some of the choices, but also just the fact that someone playing BOTW would jump straight to Zelda 1 and actually enjoy it
no mention of ALBW in that ranking though unfortunately, one of the top Zelda games that nobody seems to play or even know about which is outrageous to me, but there was a mention of Echoes and it ranked pretty high up so I'm happy with that 
there were some questionable choices on the lower tiers but as Vinny says Zelda has so many good games that unfortunately some of them have to go low in a tier list just because they have to go somewhere
unique dagger
he also shared a story about a friend who actually started playing the franchise...
that's kind of what i did except i went from 1 to BotW
lean pike
zelda 1 was super hard when I played it
I kept getting items and had no idea what item I had gotten because the sprite was poor and I had no manual
unique dagger
i love you Zelda 1
civic hawk
Maybe you'd be interested in that fan remake, or at the very least just check out Vinny's vod and see for yourself
unique dagger
yeah i watched a bit but didn't really care for the graphics
i'll have to watch more
civic hawk
I know I'd like to play it sometime, the creator actually commented on the video and said they might update it because unfortunately there are some controller issues and the audio's a bit messed up so some options would be appreciated
unique dagger
i would love an official Zelda 1 remake i think that would be so cool
and while im asking i'd also like a million dollars
lean pike
Maybe one day
we might get a new zelda game soon, since the film is coming out and the 30th is this year or next year
civic hawk
I don't know if a new game this early is gonna happen
The new Hyrule Warriors released just a little bit ago and Echoes is barely like what a little over a year old now?
a new port would be nice though
I can see that happening
unique dagger
maybe we'll get the fabled WWHF and TPHD ports
unique dagger
balmy wagon
Now I want someone to draw Purah as a borzoi
bright girder
im sick so its time to play the new hit game zelda age of prison
FUUUUCK THE ENDING WAS AWESOME
civic hawk
can you imagine Nintendo shipping a console with a built in drawing/animation app nowadays?
would never happen today
I really like it when they do fun stuff like this with their game characters, I don't know if that was a downloadable thing on the eshop or just came with some 3Ds but it's cute
oh nice they actually uploaded it by itself too
man the 25th anniversary almost 15 years ago now
civic hawk
Katsuya Terada's vision of the world of Zelda is so fascinating to me, it's so unlike so many of the different versions we've gotten
unique dagger
happy 40th anniversary to The Legend of Zelda !
bright girder
yay
civic hawk
unique dagger
holy shit this is flames
civic hawk
No, it's Zelda
civic hawk
I would love if the next Zelda had more of an 80s medieval inspiration for its aesthetic
lean pike
Zelda is kind of interesting because it started off very european but over time, especially with more recent games, it's seems to be embracing a more japanese feel
but with european flavouring
unique dagger
i like how BotW feels like a Ghibli movie, but i am curious where they'll head next
civic hawk
Zelda is kind of interesting because it started off very european but over time,...
Even OOT, which I would argue was sort of already where they started pivoting to a more anime and japanese influenced aesthetic, still had a variety of different influences and inspirations
The Sheikah were a lot more middle eastern with their aesthetics, just like the Gerudo, rather than being this super traditional Japanese hidden village sort of thing
lean pike
considering they've evolved much more in the japanese direction I assume that's what they intended all along
civic hawk
I dunno if intended, but that's where they ended up regardless
The inspiration is more apparent with Sheik, but I still don't really know what either of their designs was supposed to really go for, it's a very strange mix of some sort of modern athletic sportswear clothing with little bits of armor and in Sheik's case the bandages and raggedy cloth over the suit and the cloth turban
by Hyrule Warriors they were already changing her design to fit a more ninja aesthetic, I think I like Smash 4's the best
I think they ended up changing it just to make the Sheikah more distinct which is fair
lean pike
possibly, but there's always the possibility that the original intention was just not well realized at the time
civic hawk
No I mean that's actually what they said for how they appear in BOTW lol
they mention it on Creating a Champion, they wanted to make them more distinct from all the other races so that's why they went with a traditional japanese look
The only remnant of the original Sheikah design is the blue ish bodysuit but they got rid of the characteristic tanned skin and red eyes, they kept the white hair though
civic hawk
Hmmmm
Might be time for a TP replay
I wanna see how that game looks upscaled, I've had pretty good luck with most old games I've played with just upscaling the resolution to make em look good
wet compass
I should play tp again yeah
Maybe do a whole LoZ run of the games i like
civic hawk
Hmmmm
Maybe
Sounds like it'd be too long though.....
OOT, MM, TP, ALBW, Echoes of Wisdom...
I could play the ones I haven't played yet though like the oracle games, Link's Awakening which I didn't finish...
civic hawk
unique dagger
whoaa
wet compass
not having an original GC controller and pc adaptor
smh
hollow patio
original controllers are expensive
hollow patio
I'm a wii kid :[
wet compass
smh
anyway
have fun with WW, its one of the great zeldas
aside from that early stealth bit, always hated that
hollow patio
in the fortress?
wet compass
yeah
hollow patio
yea .
wet compass
its just annoying
hollow patio
Yk this controller feels oddly close to the real deal
Maybe aside from weight but i dont remember how weighty GC controkkers are
tepid depot
back in 2016, I bought like 5 original sealed GC controllers because I wanted to get into competitive smash melee at the time
I never did get into competitive melee but still kept the controllers because they're so good
woeful vale
civic hawk
this is how this song was meant to be listened
lean pike
it's sort of crazy that an instrument with like, what? five notes? can play this
wet compass
you can adust pitch and stuff with the d stick
i htink you can make differeent tones with the l and r buttons? might be misrememebring that
civic hawk
L and R are notes like the face buttons the pitch modifiers is the dpad and the analog
the original version I think used the triggers for the pitch
lean pike
ah
civic hawk
It's quite impressive how far you can push this
it's basically like a lite music station software or something
civic hawk
The director of photography of the Zelda movie, Gyula Pados, posted this on his Instagram (apparently it's a deleted post now?)
I'm guessing it's some piece of concept art slapped onto a clapperboard, it looks.... good
Twilight Princess Link reigns supreme all this time later...
civic hawk
The director of photography of the Zelda movie, Gyula Pados, posted this on his ...
it was AI
but not fake, just actually an AI generated image used during the production
so that's cool
wet compass
:(
civic hawk
woeful vale
yayness
civic hawk
Wait until you see the next MS upgrade
woeful vale
yesh.
i think this is usually the last dungeon I tackle
so i never get much time with the Shield of Hyrule... which is in Lorule, for some reason
civic hawk
https://youtu.be/zPEo2o6NZpA?si=YWzJZZHiWQDRsCkP
Those first two were actually pretty decently spooky
I'm now interested in horror OOT romhacks
woeful vale
Dunno if I want to go for Skull Woods or Ice Palace next
(Link Between Worlds)
On the one hand, I'm one Master Ore away from getting the Lv 3 Master Sword
On the other, my mana is getting annoying to manage mana so having the upgrade from there would be good.
only problem is that i don't have the Fire Rod yet and i dunno if I trust my ability to not Eat Shit enough to rent it from Ravio
civic hawk
either Link is incredibly small or that horse is really big, or both
cute zelda
I really like that design
Cucco lady!
oh yeah, kakariko, the nightmare fuel location
wet compass
are you playing oot casually or some kind of special version?
civic hawk
just a casual oot playthrough
wet compass
fair enough
civic hawk
I guess the 3DS is a special version in some way but yeah no just doing yet another casual playthrough cause this game can never be played too many times
and it's certainly been a while since I played it
like... 2016-2017?
wet compass
you might be interested in doing the randomisers that flitter hosts every month in #1119170161518334004
civic hawk
you might be interested in doing the randomisers that flitter hosts every month ...
you would think that, but I've weirdly never really been super interested in doing randomizers, I don't know why, since I do enjoy doing casual quick runs of games I've already played a bunch
for now I'm just doing that very same thing for this but who knows maybe I will
wet compass
fair enough
civic hawk
once caught a fish this big
so big it obscured my whole body!
man that took a while
Oh boy a good 3 hours already, and I didn't even get to Death Mountain yet!
there's so much to do before even the first dungeon it's a little funny, just because of the urgency of the situation
yes Zelda I promise I will save the world, but first I have to catch this fish that's bigger than my entire body for a heart piece if you'll excuse me
woeful vale
wau
civic hawk
there's apparently a lot more to the fishing minigame you can do just for fun, even catch the mythical hylian loach
you can just dump probably a good amount of hours into that minigame in total if you really wanted
I just wanted the heart piece but it took me a good 20 min of fishin' for that and it got pretty intense
stupid fish escaped me like 3 times
wet compass
there's apparently a lot more to the fishing minigame you can do just for fun, e...
Theres a sinking lure i managed to get as a kid... once
I tried a lot of things to get it again, but never did
I could look up how to get it now as an adult but thats no fun
civic hawk
I'm probably gonna use a guide for this
just because there's so many things I would otherwise not know about at all, and I wanna see if I can complete it as much as I can
I could do a natural casual playthrough and all... just to see how much I remember of the game I suppose, or how much I can naturally figure out, but I've never actually done a full 100% run of.... well, any Zelda game I think
It probably goes entirely against the design of the game, where it's meant for you to discover all these things on your own and be amazed that there was this one item in this one spot, but the desire to complete as much as I can is too overpowering
civic hawk
Theres a sinking lure i managed to get as a kid... once
I tried a lot of things ...
If you do want to know: || it's invisible, it spawns somewhere in the fishing pond area after you catch a 10 pound fish or heavier, but it resets if you leave or return the rod ||
wet compass
Huh