Seasons I had that one as a kid and got stuck after the first dungeon
#Zelda Legend of Link The Legend of
bright girder
civic hawk
remakes?
unique dagger
no
civic hawk
Oh just ports, that's nice too
Now more people will know those games even exist 
hopefully anyway
Appreciate that Nintendo isn't seemingly forgetting about 2D Zelda and still actively do 2D Zeldas too 
I'd be down for a new 2D Zelda if they wanted
wet forge
Time for Link to the Future
unique dagger
why would they forget about 2D Zelda ? that's how the series started
wet forge
Because it’s the old way of doing things and they may be disinterested in developing further Zelda titles in anything but 3D
It would be a gamble. They did remaster Links Awakening but people were vocally angry about it. (The why would be irrelevant; it’s feedback that tells Nintendo that people don’t want 2D Zeldas anymore)
unique dagger
people were mad about the LA remake ?(???
wet forge
Yeah, primarily because of the art style
unique dagger
dumb
wet forge
Very
unique dagger
the artstyle is adorable
wet forge
Same fervor that made people angry about the Pokémon Diamond & Perl remakes
People were mad that it wasn’t remade into a fully 3D game instead of the original top-down perspective
unique dagger
that's so bizarre lol
wet forge
Very
And yet it was rabidly available on social media, which is the feedback that Nintendo will see and act on
unique dagger
i see
perhaps that's why we haven't gotten the LA style remakes of the Oracle games 
wet forge
As such, further 2D Zeldas are indeed less likely, given the growing disinterest in 2D Nintendo games by the vocal minority 
lean pike
the anger over diamond and pearl is genuinly funny to me
wet forge
That’s quite possible
unique dagger
well Nintendo clearly hasn't forgotten about 2d games since one of their big releases this year is a new 2d Mario !
lean pike
pokemon fans: "Gamefreak is awful! they suck! nintendo should make them give their IP to another company!"
<gamefreak hands the process of doing a remake over to another company, who makes Diamond and Pearl>
pokemon fans: "this is awful"
wet forge
Honestly it’s the best major Pokémon game to come out in years
lean pike
I heard it had a number of bugs tbh
but it's really just the reaction to it. Here's a remake that's actually a remake and they complain it wasn't changed
wet forge
It keeps many of the original bugs from the original games
The real issue is that it underscores just how bad Game Freak is at doing things
unique dagger
my only complaint about BDSP is that the world is still on a grid but your character has complete analog ontrol
control
unique dagger
oh ?
wet forge
Use the D-pad instead of the joystick
visual folio
Yeah, primarily because of the art style
tbf this happened to Wind Waker too
wet forge
It did
visual folio
I don't think large companies generally care about knee-jerk anger on the internet, they care about sales
wet forge
Even Nintendo themselves were hesitant about WW style, it turns out
visual folio
but I have no idea how LA remake or LBW sold; does anyone have those numbers?
wet forge
Miyamoto apparently hated it
unique dagger
Miyamoto i love you but sometimes you have very bad takes
wet forge
but I have no idea how LA remake or LBW sold; does anyone have those numbers?
It should be available from the last earnings call
wet forge
Miyamoto i love you but sometimes you have very bad takes
There’s a whole thing about Nintendo’s internal argument over the art style of WW, it’s fascinating
lean pike
6.08 for LA and 4.28 for between worlds
wet forge
There was a definite divide over it
The use of it was basically forced by a bunch of the workers and the leads just kinda gave up and ran with it, but they were deeply concerned that it wouldn’t sell well.
And indeed the E3 reveal led to a lot of anger from the fanbase, at a time when a realistic style was universally expected due to an earlier tech demo
unique dagger
6.08 for LA and 4.28 for between worlds
i think that mostly comes down to that the Switch is a more popular console than the 3ds but idk
wet forge
And yeah, Twilight Princess is a direct result of that whole saga with WW
lean pike
in truth... I still kind of dislike WW's style
Like, I get that it's aged a lot better, and I get that it's not actually as bad in motion, but at the same time it's just kind of offputting
wet forge
I like it a lot better now than I used to, but yeah, it’s just a bit out of place.
lean pike
It's like ponies, really
unique dagger
i disagree completely. idk something about WW's style appeals to me so much
lean pike
Like have you ever seen a 3d model of a pony?
wet forge
I do appreciate what they were going for
lean pike
it's fucking weird because the head is just so big
unique dagger
i like it a lot more than TP's artstyle
lean pike
I think SS and later Botw's style are the evolution of WW that I suspect they were trying to get at with WW but didn't successfully do so
unique dagger
yea totally
wet forge
I could buy that
unique dagger
BotW/TotK feel like a combination of WW and TP to me
wet forge
WW pushed the GC to its limits
unique dagger
graphics wise i mean
wet forge
And probably was the better option to get the most bang for your buck anyway
wet forge
BotW/TotK feel like a combination of WW and TP to me
I concur
lean pike
bobblehead link is offputting
wet forge
While BotW/TotK are gorgeous, I do want a grittier Zelda akin to TP in the future
lean pike
darker and grittier WW remake where Link finally talks but only in swears because he's a sailor
wet forge
It’ll never happen, but the series would shine like no other if they weren’t too concerned about appealing to everyone in the universe
wet forge
darker and grittier WW remake where Link finally talks but only in swears becaus...
“h*ck”
unique dagger
i don't really think that making a Zelda game grittier is the answer
unique dagger
TotK has sold a billion trillion units without being dark and gritty 
wet forge
It’ll never happen, but the series would shine like no other if they weren’t too...
See: Aforementioned qualifier.
Pokémon Scarlet & Violet also sold a billion trillion units despite being mostly disliked
bright girder
ive only heard positive things about it myself
Far better execution of the chibi style than bdsp
visual folio
it’s probably worth adding that when I was growing up and first played WW and TP, I was completely unaware of all this fandom drama context
wet forge
Really? That’s surprising; I wasn’t using the internet at all at the time WW came out and I was very aware of the drama
visual folio
the first strong, clear impression I did get from internet fans was “OoT was basically the second coming, you should try that”
I think some people are just more plugged into these things
unique dagger
why is conscious spelled like that
visual folio
When it matters to overall sales is incredibly hard to tell
civic hawk
why would they forget about 2D Zelda ? that's how the series started
the same reason why Resident Evil 1/Silent Hill 1 are the origins of survival horror but you're not gonna see any triple A big developers doing fixed camera survival horror games anymore and everything needs to be either first person or a cinematic OTS shooter gameplay style
modern audiences overall aren't as into these traditional gameplay formats as the modern ones and a lot of people even go the extra step and see them as obsolete in favor of modern formats
wet compass
Yeah, cos they suck
civic hawk
that being said Link's Awakening was one of the best selling Switch games, I don't remember people saying anything over the artstyle other than some people maybe not liking it but nothing too huge happened like it happened with Windwaker
So yeah, I am happy to see a developer still keep this format alive and keep making it better and better, since Link's AWakening is a remake I don't know how much changed from the original but Link Between Worlds should give me the answer since it's a wholly original game
The same with Metroid Dread, they super stepped up their game and it's probably the best Metroid to play, it feels amazing to actually play and I really appreciate that
unique dagger
only things that changed in the LA remake were some much needed qol changes
like having pegasus boots always bound to r and not needing to switch to the power bracelet when you want to pick up a rock
visual folio
the luxuries of having more buttons
actually, wait, LttP doesn't need to switch items for either of those things
unique dagger
yeah
visual folio
speaking of which, I think I've recovered from the whole being outside thing, let's finish this
unique dagger
idk what they were doing on GB lmao
fun fact, Link's Awakening started out as a LttP port for Gameboy
unique dagger
you can see it most in the map, which is extremely sinilar
visual folio
behold the power of my rinku
visual folio
the answer has not changed since the last three times you asked lol
civic hawk
like having pegasus boots always bound to r and not needing to switch to the pow...
That's the kind of thing I talk about whenever I rant about classic survival horror, making these old formats modern or making them better rather than discarding them entirely 
kinda like how they fixed so much stuff in the OOT remake for the 3DS with much needed changes like for example the water temple which is infamously a nightmare in original OOT
unique dagger
the answer has not changed since the last three times you asked lol
i dont remember the answer
listen it's my favourite Zelda sword ever lol
civic hawk
fun fact, Link's Awakening started out as a LttP port for Gameboy
if I remember correctly they even said that during development they thought or felt like they were developing a parody of Zelda and it kinda shows considering all the insane stuff in that game, the artstyle on the remake makes more sense too
that entire game is very weird
visual folio
civic hawk
Majora's levels of weird without the deep harrowing depressive dark atmosphere
unique dagger
<:cocothink:908027043776724992>
👀👀👀
visual folio
welp, there's still nothing in my inventory which beats this wall
unique dagger
wet forge
git gud
visual folio
but at least I found something here
wet compass
welp, there's still nothing in my inventory which beats this wall
I've not played lttp but if I have to hazard a guess, I'd say you need the bottle
Or the ocarina
visual folio
the best part is I genuinely do not know if this is a serious suggestion
wet compass
I haven't played, literally no idea
unique dagger
it's taking every ounce of effort to not tell you the solution
wet compass
I assumed bombs tho
visual folio
there's even a white octopus thing in a cave that flat out told me to go here and that "no normal bomb would work"
wet compass
Well an abnormal bomb then
visual folio
but the only thing I've found so far that sort of counts as a super bomb is maybe those medallion spells, and none of those work
wet forge
visual folio
when I get the triforce I'll smack it on the wall and see if that does it
wet compass
Lol
visual folio
wait, there is one thing I didn't try
nope
current guess is the magic cape I still haven't found would let me go in this other hole I can't reach
on to the rest of the overworld
I just realized I don't have the mirror shield
aaaaargh it must not have saved me finishing turtle rock
civic hawk
welp, there's still nothing in my inventory which beats this wall
not in your inventory, no
wet compass
throws backpack at wall whelp im out of ideas
visual folio
(I already considered trying to do something with those bomb-throwing cyclopses to do something)
civic hawk
If you want a nudge in the right direction for your cracked wall problem: || since you've already completed the dark world dungeons maybe it'd be a good idea to go talk with some npcs and see what's new, maybe some vendors? maybe a certain greedo perhaps ||
visual folio
huh, this is a thing I can do
civic hawk
smash him against the wall 
for science
visual folio
yeah this is not the answer lol
civic hawk
Don't overthink it too much
The answer may not end up being as complicated as you think
visual folio
I've already tried underthinking and overthinking
if it's ever going to come to me, it'll be by doing other stuff
civic hawk
Try just thinking about it! 
depending on what the ''other stuff'' you'll do is then yeah, it just might
visual folio
basically I'm doing one last sweep of both overworlds before the final dungeon
civic hawk
Sounds good 
visual folio
I will cut down every bush in Hyrule 
civic hawk
oh no this is the timeline where Link goes insane because he couldn't enter this one hole in the wall and turns into more of a threat than Ganon
visual folio
the master sword beam does less damage than a direct sword hit, right?
civic hawk
yyyyyes
I think you already have at least 1 upgrade on the master sword so the hits do more damage but the beam is always the same I think
visual folio
yeah it's orange sword
oh hey I found a new cave
gee, how vague
Spring of Mystery
Maybe try throwing an item into it?
visual folio
throws master sword
[Achievement: Softlock]
ok that's enough random guessing
what do I throw in here really?
boomerang, bottle and (if this was far earlier in the game) shield apparently
civic hawk
So basically everytime you throw one of your tools into these ponds it gets upgraded, you're gonna want to throw your bow in that pond to get the arrows necessary to end the game, and maybe if you throw something else the fairy might be nice enough to upgrade it too, maybe something pointy and sharp
visual folio
the bow and sword were the first things I tried
I just looked up the answers since I was just guessing randomly after that
ok this boomerang definitely flies farther now
civic hawk
Oh!!!
That's because that's one of the ponds
whoops
yeah you don't upgrade the bow and sword in that one...
visual folio
yep, I tried to avoid looking at what the other one does while lookng this up lol
visual folio
but now the logs will prove I thought of throwing the sword into it on my own
so it's fine
civic hawk
well at least this last sweep got you there
and if you do another sweep and don't find how to get the thing for the thing I'll hint you a bit more directly
visual folio
and this is why I'm double-checking everything
civic hawk
how'd that get there 
civic hawk
Isn't that 17? 
visual folio
after I collected the heart piece I mean
civic hawk
ohh okay
visual folio
I accidentally the verb
lol, I never tried going under the bridge before because "I've already seen that half of the river"
IT'S BEAUTIFUL 
visual folio
I feel like the menu is expecting a 4th bottle to exist somewhere
visual folio
huh, Link's still using his shield while swimming
civic hawk
he's gotta hang onto something or else the current will sweep away his tiny lil body
visual folio
who even are these people that will just stand around in a cave, give you 300 rupees the moment you show up and say "don't tell anyone" 
civic hawk
sounds like you're not following their advice
visual folio
are these counterfeit rupees???
civic hawk
don't worry about it
visual folio
did you earn them through illegal cucco fights!?
civic hawk
just take the rupees 
and don't tell anyone, wakatta?
visual folio
so anyway I talked to the hand
(I've found this guy before but I never figured out what to do with this clue)
bright girder
give him toilet paper
bright girder
hm
considering hes a deku with no other item I think giving him that title deed is gonna doom the world
civic hawk
I guess no one owns that land now 
or... I guess technically the paper guy owns it now...
bright girder
About to become the greates Oracle of Seasons player of all time
visual folio
afaict there's nothing new in the temple area
civic hawk
I wish I could enjoy the Oracle games but it's one of those games where the limitations of it being so old make me not enjoy my time so much 
civic hawk
afaict there's nothing new in the temple area
want a hint?
visual folio
uh
I'm not sure how you'd know I was missing anything in that area
unless it's the cape or the 4th bottle
civic hawk
Weren't you trying to find what to do about that cracked wall?
visual folio
sure like an hour ago
civic hawk
so did you get that already?
visual folio
nope, I told you exactly when I ran out of ideas for it
like I said I've been checking out the rest of the overworld
civic hawk
oh, I thought you were still looking around for that
visual folio
I've posted at least 2 of the pieces of heart I found
civic hawk
I was asking if you wanted a hint for that
visual folio
and the 3rd bottle
unique dagger
GREEDO
civic hawk
visual folio
I mean I'm "still looking" for plenty of things but that doesn't mean I know where any of them are, or that this is the kind of game where I normally would know before finding it
oh is this why Cap wants me to revisit Greedo
civic hawk
No no I know I was just asking if you wanted a little nudge to find the thing is all, just so you don't walk around every inch of both maps for hours although you did spot that other pond and the one heart piece
and the bottle
visual folio
yep, for today walking around the map for hours actually is the goal
I've never attempted a thorough check of the whole overworld before, and this is the last chance to try it
unique dagger
civic hawk
If you're already planning on going around, do make sure to not only check areas you probably didn't thoroughly go through before but also areas you've already been into and npcs who may have new info, and compare with the dark world too
visual folio
do my screenshots not imply I've been doing all of those things
civic hawk
Of course I'm just saying just saying
visual folio
if you follow the order of locations in them you can tell I'm walking around based on the order that locations are reachable in the dark world, because that makes it easier to compare
civic hawk
You did assume correctly earlier about a specific item you mentioned that I'm not gonna say just in case you wanna find out yourself of course, although it's a bit 'complex' how you get this item which is why I'm just making sure to mention to stay vigilant just in case
visual folio
sure, I'm ready for the ten stage fetch quests across two dimensions and five NPCs hiding in dungen backrooms that weren't there before
civic hawk
but yeah you're pretty much sweeping everything pretty well before going into the last part
visual folio
I just need to find where it starts
civic hawk
visual folio
I figured 18 hearts is a good sign that I haven't been missing too much
anywhere here's the first fortuneteller on my route so let's double-check with my 900 rupees that he still cycles through the same two hints I haven't figured out yet
civic hawk
with the heart pieces I can't help out much because I don't know the order in which you got them or which ones you already have
lol I love how 900 rupees is so much for traditional Zeldas but in BOTW/TOTK you're basically poor with only 900 rupees
visual folio
I don't think I need more of them lol
civic hawk
civic hawk
You can't even carry that many in OOT, the limit is 500 
visual folio
iirc in TP you can't until the HD version
civic hawk
TP's total is 1000 (2000 in the Wii HD version for some reason, and another new addition in TP HD is the colossal wallet with a limit of 9,999)
wet compass
lol I love how 900 rupees is so much for traditional Zeldas but in BOTW/TOTK you...
not only that but BOTW rupees are so much harder to find
visual folio
oh god it follows me like a pokemon
civic hawk
visual folio
I was not expecting an escort mission
civic hawk
bomb friend
yeah as you may be realizing those bombs work differently, it's why I said earlier that you don't have anything that works for the wall in your inventory 
visual folio
oh no the friend can't jump down cliffs
visual folio
good thing I have 750 rupees
unique dagger
don't pegasus boots either
visual folio
the damsels could handle pegasus boots so I definitely would've done that, gtk
or, rather, that one fake damsel
didn't have them during the prologue with Zelda
civic hawk
Yep, so just a good ol' regular power walk to wherever you gotta get your friend to with no items or jumping
visual folio
well I still need the hammer
unique dagger
hemmaer
civic hawk
moment of truth
visual folio
oh wow they give me a timer
civic hawk
💥
civic hawk
visual folio
ah yes it's that thing Nire told me about by accident
civic hawk
visual folio
These are "silver arrows". You absolutely need these to deliver the final blow to Ganon!
unique dagger
yes
visual folio
so... is this like a true ending thing? or can you not even beat the game without this?
civic hawk
Required item
unique dagger
you need them to beat the game
visual folio
wow
bright girder
do you
visual folio
Nintendo Hard indeed
bright girder
thought it was bugged and master sword had the same effect
visual folio
perhaps I'll test that
I'm a little overweight because of Ganon's magic, so please kick his ass
why is that canon
unique dagger
throw every item you have in
visual folio
lol
now imagine being the guy who finds this spring, throws in 10 different items, doesn't get a lucky guess, and goes off to the final dungeon none the wiser
anyway I've got the banana of destiny now
civic hawk
if I'm not mistaken some guides or articles refered to her as the fat fairy but it was changed to cursed after in most official stuff
No one ever expects the banana
unique dagger
anyway I've got the banana of destiny now
YEAHH WOOHOO THATS WHAT IM TALKIN ABOUT
visual folio
wat
the fortuneteller is still looping through both clues
I was so sure the first clue was about this cracked wall in the ziggurat
I think I'll skip the swamp and desert for now, I basically did a thorough sweep of them back when I found the dark desert dungeon
it's weird how bees never got any easier to kill cleanly
well I guess I could net them
civic hawk
bright girder
the big key is called boss key in this game how manly
visual folio
which game?
bright girder
oracle of seasons
visual folio
press F to pay respects
civic hawk
I think I'll skip the swamp and desert for now, I basically did a thorough sweep...
did you happen to find some guy near that area or something like that at the time?
visual folio
I was about to say
there is a guy in a cave in the desert
and he's never done anything
civic hawk
visual folio
but I also have no idea how to change that
civic hawk
I don't... think that's what I'm thinking about...
visual folio
(likewise the weird sign guy I tried messing with before but he vanishes on any screen transition and magic powder and such don't do anything)
civic hawk
visual folio
I all but know something is up with those two
unique dagger
oh i can tell you where to get a bottle
civic hawk
sure does sound pretty weird huh
visual folio
but first
civic hawk
Well, if it's any help at all I suppose you should keep in mind that the sign guy || is a locksmith||
so should you happen to find anything you need help with on that front, maybe he's your guy
I'm sure || the hand|| you talked to must've mentioned something like that
at least it should've
visual folio
I'm not clicking on those but 80% odds I already know what they say
civic hawk
I want to think you do but since you did say you had no clue what was up with those guys I assume you either don't or maybe for some reason the game didn't tell you but I can't tell realy
visual folio
what I have no clue how to do is get them to do anything interesting
civic hawk
Ahh, well the fact that you're (still) sweeping around I assume will probably lead you to something eventually
you already stumbled into a bunch of things
visual folio
I think dark woods is another area I did super thoroughly the first time around
come on dig dug I know you have a piece of heart
ok that's enough, keep your secrets
oh yeah, the archery game
civic hawk
Okay wow I actually looked it up really quick and the game does flat out tell you in multiple ocassions but this is the kind of thing I personally would definitely most likely forget about unless I seek it out immediately after I'm told to be fair
visual folio
lol
civic hawk
by dark woods you mean the skeleton forest?
visual folio
probably
civic hawk
this is why I (usually) play games in english other languages tend to change names of stuff and you end up with things like calling Purah Prunia or something
visual folio
to be clear, I have not transcribed every hint the game gave me because that would be tedious
I know a few things about sign guy, I just have yet to figure out how to do anything with that information
like how I've known for over half my playthrough that I needed a "not normal bomb" for the cracked wall, but not where to get one
civic hawk
Yeyeye I got that I got that 
dw, after looking it up I'm certain that you've already encountered any hints I could give
visual folio
the strongest reaction I got out of that guy so far was "doushite...... 
"
ok I think I can get all five arrows to hit
4/5
man this is hard
aaaaah another 4
FINALLY
huh, I was really expecting a non-rupee reward for that
civic hawk
At least it didn't take that long to complete
I wonder if they expect the player to finish that early(ish) into the game and not at this point when you basically have a full inventory
visual folio
ok let's visit the two weirdos before kakariko
I've tried to sweep both kakarikos before but I'm a lot less confident I completed them
you
visual folio
still can't get anything besides this
visual folio
if the game let me just ask him about his dark past I would
visual folio
it's so weird that he has the ability to follow you around but only on this one screen
visual folio
I've looked under every rock multiple times
I know about the stairs under the one in the middle
unique dagger
srry
visual folio
it's fine lol
mostly I'm wondering why you asked because the guy down there talks about the east lake cave, not sign guy, and sign guy won't go down there anyway
visual folio
I completely forgot to check here when I was bringing dwarf twin back
civic hawk
Oh?
visual folio
it even follows me off cliffs
why is this chest so much more competent than the bomb lol
theeeeere we go
there we go, now I have all four colors of potion at once
well I guess bee is five, but I never use that
this has nothing to do with anything, but
I like Link's shocked face when you pegasus into a wall
huh, the fortuneteller told me about Ganon's tower
nothing I didn't know already, but they never mentioned it before
civic hawk
Bottle getto!
visual folio
ah he's looping between tower and graveyard
unique dagger
oh you already found my favourite bottle
the one under the bridge with the guy and his comfy tent
visual folio
so the fortune I originally thought was about the ziggurat wall was really about sign guy's chest, and that's been replaced by the ganon's tower bit
might as well just go straight to the graveyard and try that again
hm
so the gravestone I'm most suspicious of still won't move
the only gravestone that did anything interesting so far is the one that drops me into the tutorial dungeon
so I'm gonna look around that dungeon again
yeah nothing
could I get a hint on this gravestone?
unique dagger
is it the one behind the rocks
visual folio
this is the one I'm suspicious of because it's the only one I can't move, and yes it's locked behind black rocks
the fortuneteller says there's something in the light world graveyard, and I've already been in that cave up above, so I dunno what else it could be
and at this point, by process of elimination, the cape is either here or halfway through Ganon's Tower
wet compass
oh cool, that specific gravestone is important in link between worlds
visual folio
ah, well that all but confirms it's important here
wet compass
i would be genuinely shocked if it wasnt
visual folio
fine I'm looking it up
unique dagger
this is the one I'm suspicious of because it's the only one I can't move, and ye...
you gotta dash into it
wet compass
im unsure if i would have figured that out either tbh
but i'd hav probably atleast tried
visual folio
it's easy to say that now lol
it's still dumb luck that I ever found out pegasus charges could break anything
now where was that piece of heart locked behind the cape...
bingo
all right, I think that's my cue to go fight Ganon
wet compass
wait dont you need the cape for a dungeon or something?
visual folio
nope
wet compass
is it just an optional colectable in that game?
..huh
horribly underutilised item then
visual folio
or, well
there are two rooms in the game I can recall which require you to walk on spikes
does the cape prevent spike damage?
visual folio
there's no jump button
wet compass
the cape lets you jump, doesnt it?
wet forge
Y’all are making me want to replay LttP.
wet compass
dewit
visual folio
nope, this cape just makes Link disappear
wet compass
oooh
visual folio
I think the Minish Cap had a jump/glide cape?
civic hawk
all right, I think that's my cue to go fight Ganon
going into fight without full hearts
visual folio
lol of course not
civic hawk
My mind goblins would never allow me
visual folio
this witch has gotten so many rupees from me
that's more like it
and save in-game so we can't possibly lose any of this
mirror, banana, 18
civic hawk
I hope ALBW will have the same kind of "vague open-ish world but here's some hints for you to actually have a chance at completing these side quests" design of LTTP without going too far into handholding you all the way or going full Souls and having you have to write down every single piece of dialogue and decode its meaning to know what to do
civic hawk
mirror, banana, 18
The master banana 
That's so yellow it's not even gold 
It really is just a sharp pointy banana
visual folio
now to save scum past the annoying boulders for hopefully the last time
wet compass
I hope ALBW will have the same kind of "vague open-ish world but here's some hin...
you can get any item at any time
i really liked ALBW
civic hawk
That's good to hear
civic hawk
mirror, banana, 18
I just noticed, is your name Rinku?
visual folio
yep
civic hawk
Is that the default jp name or is it "LINK" or something?
unique dagger
does the cape prevent spike damage?
yes
visual folio
there is no default
wet compass
the only default is default dance 
unique dagger
do you remember that tunnel of spikes that led to the cane
visual folio
I remember you telling me cape was the intended strat yes
visual folio
which is actually the only reason why I guessed the cape prevents spike damage
otherwise... why would it?
it's not like Link is hovering while he's invisible
unique dagger
it's magic
visual folio
I even fell into a whole while cloaked so I know that's a thing
well, sure, just weirdly unintuitive magic
wet compass
it prevents fall damage? lol
civic hawk
I might just go with Link whenever I play ALBW rather than putting my name
visual folio
there's no fall damage in this game
wet compass
oh
visual folio
unless you count bottomless pits
but falls that land somewhere are always harmless
I still don't know how I'm supposed to get this one
wet compass
fall from above?
visual folio
there is no above, this is the top of the world lol
civic hawk
To be clear cape doesn't prevent fall or just spike damage it prevents all damage but I agree that it's a bit confusing since invisibility =/= invulnerability
visual folio
it's also weird that it lets you walk through that bouncer thing
without the sign I never would've known to try that
oh well the cape has barely any usage so being underexplained isn't a big deal
civic hawk
Yeah it's entirely optional
wet compass
the dark world maybe? is the map different in dark world?
visual folio
I was about to say they probably want me to mirror onto the heart piece from here
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but last time I was here I couldn't figure out how to get there
visual folio
waaaaaait a second
wet compass
(i might have looked it up)
visual folio
what is going on here
does the cape have a maximum range???
wait, I can walk onto that void without the cape
wet compass
why would the cape let you walk on air
civic hawk
Cape doesn't make you float
visual folio
see the last ten questions about the cape
wet compass
no
visual folio
it's literally less weird than everything it does do
wet compass
i cant read
civic hawk
It's just like magic armor of sorts
visual folio
welp time to brute force this invisible bridge I guess
civic hawk
I saw the black void and I was gonna say use the glide boots but then I remembered those are from OOT not LTTP
wet compass
isnt there an item that cam help with bridges?
*invisible things
whatever you know what i meant
civic hawk
Quick, try everything!
wet compass
i actually dont know
civic hawk
wet compass
i already forgot what i looked up
visual folio
no idea what I was supposed to do but that wasn't hard to brute force once I randomly bumbled into there being invisible paths
civic hawk
these do not fly
What a scam :rdannoyed:
Nice that the game even allows that
I like that
visual folio
same vibe as when I tanked all the spike damage because the game never told me the cape exists
bingo
oh huh
wet compass
5 left
visual folio
that little gap in the wall lets you jump down to the rest of the mountain
ok now we are no kidding going for Ganon
wet forge
no idea what I was supposed to do but that wasn't hard to brute force once I ran...
Brute forcing it is the answer
Can’t make the paths show up
visual folio
something something power of teamwork
wet forge
wet compass
its the elements of harmony! and spike!
visual folio
this might take a while 
hmmm
perhaps the cape is fireproof
it is actually
this is either going to look very badass or very lame
mostly lame
oh I love this kind of puzzle
unique dagger
no idea what I was supposed to do but that wasn't hard to brute force once I ran...
one of the medallions, i can't remember which, reveals invisible paths
visual folio
huh
unique dagger
i believe it's the lighning one ?
visual folio
I don't remember anything hinting at that, though maybe I skimmed their descriptions way back when I found them
speaking of
those are not flying enemies
wet compass
well now you get to experement which medalion reveals paths
visual folio
I already went somewhere else but next time I'm down here I will
civic hawk
perhaps the cape is fireproof
It's everything proof!
Well except kneecap shattering proof since you do still die from falls and pits
Weird that a cape of all things grants inmunity but hey
wet compass
it turns you into a ghost
or puts you between the light and dark world
or something
visual folio
oh this is a cute puzzle
huh, in this room lighting the brazier makes previously invisible paths show up, no medallion spells involved
yep, this is a hint room
visual folio
speaking of
it led me right back to ^here, and this room also has a brazier just barely in range
good dungeon
oh is the basement a boss rush
despite the ice floors, silver arrows made that a lot easier than the first time
nope just the one boss
oh we're changing colors again
civic hawk
Yeeaaah
Red tunic ftw
Looking badass
That's one of the things I noticed they kept for OOT
Though in OOT it's literally just a full color swap at least here you get neat alt hat colors too
visual folio
all right, that's the lower floors fully explored
map says the upper floors are much smaller than 1F was
very clever Ganon
that barely visible red enemy would be a pain if I couldn't see it coming
I can also hear a moving spike distinct from the visible ones
it takes a truly evil mind to put a beamos on a conveyor belt
aaaaand the next room is this plus ice floors
oh we are doing a boss rush after all
all right, I've used up all my health potions, but I did bottle two fairies in the basement, and I have 14 hearts, so save state this might just work
oi, you're not Ganon
theeeeere we go
apparently that boss arena wasn't good enough for the pig
unique dagger
you beat Darth Vader now you have to fight the Emperor
visual folio
ah, the game puts a save point between these two boss fights, thank hylia
second try, I got far enough for him to do more trash talking
and ran out of magic in a phase that needs it
ok, I've placed a save state at this line of dialogue; there are enough phases to this fight it'd be no fun to keep repeating the early ones
that's three silver arrows, come on...
I think this is endgame 
"spirit of the triforce", that's a new one
and credits
huh, Zelda's dad has a sprite
I thought you died? 
these credits name a few characters that were not named in the game
"forever", right
civic hawk
Venus!
civic hawk
"forever", right <:ajlie:585560130800844800>
And Ganon is vanished... Forever!
And we will never see him again 
visual folio
tbf I don't think I've seen the pigman with a silver pitchfork Ganon in any later Zelda
civic hawk
ALBW
visual folio
oh right
that would make sense
also it turns out if you fall off the edge in those later phases, you end up in another part of the ziggurat which has a message saying you need to hit him with silver arrows when he's stunned; so if you did not happen to discover silver arrows on your own you would at least have a plausible way to find out you need to go looking for them (albeit it's not much to go on for finding them lol)
civic hawk
And Oracle games
visual folio
ok so basically the whole Defeated Hero timeline
unique dagger
congrats ix ! you saved Hyrule !
civic hawk
Ganon in OOT had double swords rather than a pitchfork and was less of a fat pig and more of a cool boar pig thing
unique dagger
why am i penked
unique dagger
I thought you died? <a:izzywhat:891381404741550130>
so did the King, Link wished that everything and everyone was restored to how they were before Aganihm and Ganon did the bad
visual folio
oh this I was not expecting
my save state scumming probably made a mess of these stats but still, here they are
also:
Gannon's Tower
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oh there was one last bit
unique dagger
what does this mean
visual folio
given how the save system works, I assume this is how many times you "started" the game, counting both dying and reload, and every time you simply turned on the console and loading your save file
visual folio
had I attempted to do this legit it'd likely be a far, far higher number
I don't remember dark palace being particularly hard, maybe it was just a dungeon where I was most comfortable dying and reloading at the entrance repeatedly without feeling the need to save state later on?
unique dagger
i first played this on the GBa i had no luxury
visual folio
so my strongest, unexpected impression of LttP overall is
unique dagger
did you like it
visual folio
I honestly kept forgetting it was a SNES-era game
and I mean that in a good way
every few hours I'd interact with the save system and go "oh, right, it really is that old" but nearly everything else is much higher quality than I would've expected for this era
oh, here's another example: up til now all of the credits could've passed for a GBA-era game, but apparently it just stops on this final screen and doesn't go back to the main menu or respond to any button inputs
I assume it's expecting you to just turn the machine off at this point
unique dagger
yes
visual folio
I definitely enjoyed the relative freedom and non-linearity compared to some other Zeldas, you've heard me compare it to Tunic at least once already
and although there is a weirdly persistent trend for nearly every Zelda to have several moments where the next mandatory action is imo unfairly obtuse and I simply cannot progress without looking something up online, LttP had fewer of those than I feared, with the grand total being maybe 5? 6? throughout the entire game
civic hawk
Now Ixrec joins the group of people that will forever praise lttp
visual folio
and it was a longer game than I expected
unique dagger
what will you play now
visual folio
and I guess I should restate I would not want to play this without save states
but where that sort of thing falls into how "good" the game is messy
balmy wagon
I have a copy of LBW on 3ds
visual folio
I also see why this is such a popular randomizer game now
glad isle
Should I explore more of the depths or go to Hateno first hmmmm
visual folio
it feels practically made to be randomized, even compared to most other Zeldas
unique dagger
i love watching randomised LttP
civic hawk
I guess I should mentally prepare to start LBW, hasn't even been a week since I finished TOTK but I think I'll enjoy it a lot because TOTK was already exhausting me
visual folio
half the time I was playing it normally I was unsure if I'd gotten somewhere early, or late, or with more or fewer items than "intended", and often just made it work anyway
tanking the spikes to Cane of Byrna being the best example
glad isle
Gonna post pics of my map progress real fast
visual folio
good timing, I just finished monopolizing the channel with my LttP screenshots
glad isle
What do you all suggest, Hateno Village or more Depths
Wait fuck it I'm gonna go look for Hestu
visual folio
it's so weird to me that everyone had to go looking for Hestu
I wasn't even aware of his existence until ||I bumped into him on the road to Rito Village, and he just said he'd be in Lookout Landing so... that's where I went to go find him later, until I did lost woods stuff||
glad isle
I wasn't even aware of his existence until ||I bumped into him on the road to Ri...
Damnit I missed him then
Probably because I flew lmao
Do you remember specifically where he is ||on the road to Rito Village||?
visual folio
||not precisely, but it was after the bridge with the sleeping hynox, on a hill with evil trees because he was cowering in fear until I killed the trees, and I'm pretty sure it was before Great Tabantha Gorge or whatever it's called||
glad isle
Much thanks
AaaaaaaAAAAAAA
Oh it seems his location can change
great
Found him
His location for me was ||Lookout Landing because I had completed one of the temples. Had I been earlier in the story he'd be on some bumfuck nowhere road NW of Lookout Landing||
visual folio
that makes sense
visual folio
Oh it seems his location can change
I think there’s more than one
||by the end of my playthrough I’d found ~10 gleeok locations, 2-3 of each type||
unique dagger
Twitter
tepid depot
Activate Windows
dusky plover
someone needs to activate windows
visual folio
I doubt we want to fully synchronise this, but I’ll likely be starting LBW in a few hours
visual folio
but first, a LttP speedrun
bright girder
who is the runner
visual folio
I'm hardly educated on LttP speedruns but from a quick look at google hits I went with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pn6GCfkwPvE
bright girder
🔥 🔥 🔥
visual folio
"since this is a no exploration glitch run, the first thing we're going to do is set up exploration glitch"
ok this might be the most glitch-heavy run I've watched in a while
the poor commentator barely gets to breathe
civic hawk
I was gonna ask if you wanted to start LBW right away or if you wanted a bit of a cooldown period of a few days or something since we've kind of been binging Zelda
I really didn't play it last night though, the game really wants you to know how the save function works so it won't let you proceed unless you save and it was just a test run so I didn't want to save (it autosaves though so it didn't end up mattering )
I guess that's already kind of good from the get go, this is the last Zelda game that came out before BOTW so I'm interested in seeing how it's like 
Although I guess triforce heroes is actually the last one before BOTW but who cares about that game am I right
visual folio
"right away" as in today, sure, this is more a cooldown from work / commute than from Zelda or games
civic hawk
If you wanna go right away today that's fine, I mean I doubt we're gonna be fully in sync of course but just like with TOTK we can go in parallel, I honestly got more burned out from TOTK specifically than Zelda in general, playing that game for 2 months straight did slow me down with my work both personal and commissioned work but something tells me ALBW will not have an iron grip on my life as much as a huge game like TOTK did
visual folio
indeed, if there is such a thing as a single game having too much content, TotK is dangerously close to if not slightly over the limit
civic hawk
For me it definitely crosses over into way too much content, especially when I started getting through all the quests I piled up throughout the game and found that only really a handful were worth doing and the rest kind of blend together because of now inconsequential and honestly un-fun they are
I know I did the lightroots all in one go which unlike the towers is more like hunting for every shrine in the game so I know I probably feel stronger about them myself but even then the fact that the devs just kinda pat you in the back or laugh at you by giving you a literally useless item adds to that frustration and feeling of there being too much stuff that is just kind of useless
visual folio
yeah I think they're designed to be done as you find them, not in marathons
civic hawk
Especially in a game where so much more could have been done with the story and characters and they just... didn't
that last part was amazing all the way and I wanted more of that
visual folio
oh, I hope you weren't expecting more story than that?
civic hawk
what do you mean?
visual folio
uh
that it sucks to have an unmet expectation more than a "I knew they wouldn't but it would've been nice"?
not sure what you're asking
civic hawk
Ahh okay okay I the wording of that kinda confused me a bit, but yeah I did totally hoped for TOTK to be a return to a more traditional formula at least when it came to the presentation of the story, have a little more in there
I don't know if I expected it because a part of me kind of knew that it wouldn't happen, but I hoped
Again though I did say numerous times I enjoyed TOTK over BOTW myself unfortunately though it's only because the games already feel so incredibly similar that TOTK feels like the finished or upgraded version to BOTW's prototype
But yeah, I did definitely hoped for a bit more meat in TOTK story wise
visual folio
ok I'm feeling like it's LBW time
should I spoiler tag everything if/while I'm ahead?
civic hawk
uhhmm.... 
yyyeah sure, why not, although it's gonna be hard to know when one of us is ahead of the other
I guess we can exchange notes as we go 
visual folio
I'm sure there will be non-spoiler ways of saying it, like I have the red medallion or you have the master sword
oh right, I need to learn the controls
apparently it's the same as LttP controls
civic hawk
Shouldn't bee too different
Let me know if you come across any of that sweet modern stuff that you had issues with in alttp :sunsetbounce:
I know the autosave is already pretty nice
civic hawk
don't worry about it don't look at that
bright girder
Yeah but you'll never figure out how to get it
just look at those rocks what the hell are you gonna do
visual folio
speaking of sweet modern stuff
furigana!
in a completely different font from the main text for some reason but still
bright girder
Reminds me how in the Majoras Mask randomizer you can peek whats on top of the clock tower check in the intro cutscene
civic hawk
furigana! <:sweetiedumbfabric:649319691319377923>
for stupid people like me!!!
I'm guessing the font is slightly pixelized so that it doesn't lose quality or sharpness due to how small it is, remember this is on a 3DS screen
you can see how the actual font are getting blurry already
visual folio
indeed
first actual challenge: figuring out how to walk, because apparently it's not the arrow keys
civic hawk
Uhhhh IJKL?
visual folio
nope
civic hawk
maybe they're not mapped?
the answer will always be to check your emulators' key maps
these are mine but this is Citra not RetroArch
visual folio
they are indeed not mapped
what a weird default config
I'd better get my gamepad for this, looks like any mapping will be strange if I try to turn analog sticks into keys
civic hawk
Could be, I think this game does allow you for full 360 degree movement so with a pad it'll probably feel more comfortable but since I don't have a controller i've gotten way too used to the keyboard myself
visual folio
indeed, if I hadn't just played LttP I probably would've started with my gamepad plugged in like I normally do anyway
oh yeah it has default mappings for my gamepad
lol L3 flips the screens
why would I do that
oooh, right stick is mapped to touch pad, with R3 for tap
that's a nice option to have
ok playing the actual game time
first off
wtf are you doing here
oooh it has discoverable save points too
civic hawk
wtf are you doing here
My guess? They probably put that there as a tease for Majora's Mask 3DS
unless you were there, you had no idea how much people cried and whined for that game
visual folio
makes sense
ok so in this one we're a blacksmith apprentice/son(?) rather than the nephew of a knight
oh no, I hope nothing terrible happens to the knight who left his sword behind that'll force us to hang onto it for half the game
civic hawk
I love that everyone is wearing the green tunic with the little cap
visual folio
and that they call Link an idiot for needing to ask where Hyrule Castle is
||I already know about the flattening yourself onto walls mechanic so this is clearly related. But that design specifically reminds me of the LttP knights.||
ok water is still lethal at the start of the game
oh yeah, and the save points have names 
civic hawk
and that they call Link an idiot for needing to ask where Hyrule Castle is
listen, Link may be the hero but that doesn't mean he's academically gifted.... or literate
visual folio
compared to LttP's intro, this is practically a slow burn
we've gone a whole five minutes without anyone being in possibly mortal danger
oh there we go
civic hawk
Yeah ALTTP and LBW are 22 years apart and in all that time pretty much every single Zelda game after lttp came out so I'm sure this is at least gonna have a bit more story to it than lttp
I think anyways...
visual folio
plus they have space on the cartridge for that sort of luxury
ok I'm done robbing every grave in the graveyard, now I'll save the guy
civic hawk
visual folio
yup
like the entire map
I don't think they intended this to be played literally one day after someone's first ever LttP experience
I'm comparing how many flower tiles are between a certain pair of trees
ah, even the item progression is starting with lantern again
civic hawk
Interestingly enough I remember reading some debate surrounding whether or not this is even meant to be a direct sequel to alttp despite being named literally kamigami no triforce two in JP
visual folio
nice, it actually lights up the area around you this time
civic hawk
Seems like the general idea is that it's the same world/continuity but it still takes place a long time after lttp
visual folio
I mean I suppose it could've been a prequel
but the moment you wake up you can see the world map, and it is so obviously LttP's world map
civic hawk
Yeah, it is, it's kind of the same as OOT with TP and WW
except... without the weird timeline shenanigans
that sort of 'sequel'
visual folio
there's a very welcome modern standard: darkness is no longer solid black, hollywood blue is in effect
civic hawk
You may find that stuff is a bit lighter in the game since it is made for a portable 3Ds screen, but from what I can see there it looks pretty alright that it won't be an issue
a big concern with Majora's Mask 3DS for example was that a lot of the moody atmosphere was completely replaced with a more colorful brighter vibe for example I'm assuming part of it was due to it being a 3DS title and needing to look bright for people who play outside
visual folio
heheheh ||the left switch is the correct one this time, that'll fool LttP players||
looks like door types follow the same rules
liking the villain's design/intro
though it's a novelty that the villain even gets introduced
ah, so this is that guy I first learned about by stumbling onto his mask in TotK
omg my sword has the power to break pots
lol, I wish I had bombs to see what's going on with this cave
I think that was the earliest I could've possibly bought a shield
civic hawk
ah, so this is that guy I first learned about by stumbling onto his mask in TotK
Ravioli or something like that
That's another lttp thing
Game is very open
civic hawk
Yeyeye
visual folio
was about to say Ravio was not in LttP
civic hawk
From what I hear you can do anything at any time, at least I hope
visual folio
after that little prologue sequence, I suspect that's true
civic hawk
So maybe we'll be taking different paths
visual folio
but I'll go broadly in order for now since I don't have any of the basic items so I'd just find a bunch of inaccessible stuff
civic hawk
Have at it 
visual folio
oh Impa's in this
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I don't think she was in LttP
visual folio
oooh the LBW map has custom pins
now that is a modern feature
I'm gonna mark these ||oddly tall towers with eagle crests that I'm very sure were not there in LttP||
civic hawk
oooh the LBW map has custom pins
How custom are we talking, just a dot or cute little icons like TOTK?
visual folio
just a pin
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also very much appreciate the silhouette when walking underneath stuff
civic hawk
A little too big but it is a 3ds....
visual folio
not to mention that guard watching me from above lol
civic hawk
Lol that one guard peeking
"who's this lost child...?"
Yeah the game looks awesome so far
visual folio
"Where are you going? Impa told you to wait"
civic hawk
did the game not let you do something?
visual folio
it me!
visual folio
<:rdsnrk:587780329335422977> did the game not let you do something?
only momentarily
ah so that's Zelda's design
civic hawk
it me! <:sweetiedumbfabric:649319691319377923>
"wow Link! You sure look a lot like the legendary swordsman!!!
.... Too bad you're not of course"
civic hawk
ah so that's Zelda's design
Here comes da girl
visual folio
oddly enough we just brought that up, but I'll call spoilers on the details for now
civic hawk
Kawaii deshou? 
civic hawk
oddly enough we _just_ brought that up, but I'll call spoilers on the details fo...
I guess I guessed correctly lol
I might start it myself too later maybe
visual folio
||huh... very curious what Zelda's charm does||
the rewards for unnecessary exploration continue
civic hawk
Almost clicked that
visual folio
favorite random guard comment: "Zelda's incredible, ruling a country at her age. When I was that young I was still chasing cuccos around."
civic hawk
I mean... They are teens in these games
And Zelda's mom is always suspiciously never around...
Dead mom syndrome
civic hawk
At least Zelda's dad is around... Sometimes, we have seen him and we know him
But her mom? Never, nada
I assume it's maybe implied that all of them are a Zelda?
So Zelda's mom is just... Zelda
unique dagger
I guess this means her dad is no longer around, unlike LttP's Zelda
the King is only around for the credits he's dead the rest of the game
visual folio
oh like explicitly dead, not just absent or temporarily zapped by magically reversible bad guy stuff?
unique dagger
no he's legit a skeleton in the intro cutscene lol
visual folio
derp
visual folio
come to think of it I might've never watched the complete intro cutscene
civic hawk
bright girder
When I saw the skeleton sitting on a throne with a crown as a kid I thought that was the final boss of the game
civic hawk
I'm assuming a lot of kids playing Zelda didn't know Ganon especially if it was their first
bright girder
it doesnt really matter how different he is because they dont show him before the end of the game
visual folio
iirc OoT's approach to non-dorf Ganon is more or less the standard for all the later ones
so it's a reasonable expectation
unique dagger
didnt know he was in lttp
this is fair
visual folio
oh, "Lon Lon Ranch" got a mention, pretty sure that wasn't in LttP
I can't buy milk without a bottle 
oooh some of these houses in Kakariko have that one building interior theme I remember from OoT
visual folio
I take it we're getting the bug net differently this time
lol, the game keeps asking me if I should take a break when I save
visual folio
ok so this merchant's mostly the same
"hint glasses", that's new
I think that's the exact same wording LttP fairies used
and I'm feeling tired earlier than usual tonight so I think I'll stop here before trying to get into what I assume is the first dungeon
TIL that one of the secret rooms in Zelda 1 just had a guy who insists you pay for blowing up his door 
civic hawk
iirc OoT's approach to non-dorf Ganon is more or less the standard for all the l...
Actually nope, the opposite entirely
OOT's Ganon never shows up again
TP's Ganon isn't even a boar-man, just a full on boar
WW doesn't even have a Ganon
And BOTW/TOTK's is also a boar thingy
visual folio
what I mean is Ganondorf stays humanoid for most of the game and only after you fight him a bit does he turn into this huge beast form called Ganon and that often requires Zelda's help to finish off
bright girder
Im gonna say puppet ganon counts
visual folio
as opposed to how in LttP he just doesn't exist until the last five minutes when he's all pig no dorf
civic hawk
Well Ganondorf doesn't have that many appearances as it is and with the exception of 1 where it's a brand new reincarnated Ganondorf he's always the same guy, but yeah everytime he does appear he's mostly gerudo until he transforms into his true(?) form
visual folio
I guess in TP it was Midna's help for the boar and Zelda helped with a later human stage
still, that's the formula I'm familiar with in every post-OoT / non-Defeated Hero timeline game
civic hawk
Yeah until you have the epic duel
For some weird reason I really like the defeated hero timeline, something about it
It's pretty much where most of the traditional 2D zeldas are at with exceptions
I like the aesthetics of the games in that branch, feels very western medieval inspired ish
the funny thing is that every Zelda is pretty much western medieval inspired but something about the defeated hero timeline gives me that feeling a lot more, don't know how to describe it
bright girder
The audacity of Nintendo to claim theres a "defeated hero" timeline when I've beaten OoT twice this summer
supple quarry
Always hated that tbh
civic hawk
I never really thought about how weird it is before but I guess it's interesting having a world where the hero doesn't quite make it but you risk going into the realm of multiverses and pretty much endless possibilities and scenarios 
In this timeline Link fails against Ganon
...in this other timeline he randomly jumped from a ledge too high and broke his neck
oh wow the game really wants to make sure you want to delete the save file huh
that's neat
''It's impossible to read what the sign says from here''
alright then keep your secrets
is she supposed to be our mom? hi mom
oh hah I actually do have the sword wrapped up in cloth on my hand, they don't just make me hold the sword like a weapon, that's a good detail
gravedigger with that rizz, talking with the daughter of the royal guard captain 
lol
''you have a sword! You can go take a look!''
Link: ''what sword? ''
unique dagger
the funny thing is that every Zelda is pretty much western medieval inspired but...
god this Zelda 1 art is so badass
unique dagger
pretend i put a moth emoji
