Dyson Sphere Program | Manechat | Page 1

delicate veldt Dec 28, 2022, 11:07 PM

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Not actually about a giant vacuum

whole yacht Dec 28, 2022, 11:10 PM

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pippwiggle Finally here.

blissful slate Dec 28, 2022, 11:15 PM

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CatJam defo a game i gotta play nmore when i got time and finish factorio space ex

delicate veldt Dec 29, 2022, 8:42 AM

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this game is destroying my life

night fossil Dec 29, 2022, 3:04 PM

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cloudypeek

whole yacht Dec 29, 2022, 4:20 PM

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izzymwahaha It will take over for a while in my experience.

night fossil Dec 29, 2022, 4:31 PM

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I got as far as starting a solar collection swarm

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I don't recall the level of science or research i got to

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I remember spending a very long time getting a constant deuterium supply going

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I have an automated mining colony on another planet. It ships materials to my main base

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I don't remember if i was ready to expand to the next thing, or if i was trapped in bottleneck hell

whole yacht Dec 29, 2022, 5:08 PM

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night fossil I got as far as starting a solar collection swarm

I was about to start making one of those around a different star from where I started. I never got around to completing it, though; other things came up.

night fossil Dec 29, 2022, 5:19 PM

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I never left my starting solar system

whole yacht Dec 29, 2022, 5:26 PM

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pippwhoa

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There is a lot to do there, so that makes sense.

delicate veldt Dec 29, 2022, 7:20 PM

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night fossil I don't recall the level of science or research i got to

omg me too

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I think I'm going to copy the seed and reset the planet because I fucked up badly

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:15 AM

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I'm 20 hours into this second game and I think I'm actually quite a bit behind, idk

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:16 AM

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the real game doesn't start until you manage to travel to the next galaxy

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:18 AM

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Like I don't get it

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I'm constantly underpowered, but in order to get power you need a lot of stuff and half the time my production lines end up falling apart

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izzyscrunch I also wish the UI for the interplanetary logistics was a big clearer. It's really hard to tell if it's working as intended

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:19 AM

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these types of factory games i spend a lot of time in bottleneck hell

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:19 AM

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yeah

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:19 AM

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"where the fuck did all my iron go"

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"why is my science belt not going"

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"god damn it i need more circuits"

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:20 AM

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I have so much goddamn hydrogen that it's clogging my oil refinary pipeline

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:20 AM

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oh that too

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:20 AM

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Logistics bots help a bit

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:21 AM

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i think i ended up building a few giant hydrogen towers to soak up all the excess

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being able to stack tanks and labs is such a great thing in DSP compared to factorio

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:22 AM

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you need refined oil for so much chemistry too, it's very frustrating

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and refined graphite!

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:23 AM

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getting solar sail production fully automated was such a relief for me, i just routed them to my cannons to launch them at the star into the swarm orbits

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:23 AM

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I've not even made it that far

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I can't really figure out the use of the planetary logistics towers. It'd be different if they could harvest from non-towers and then redistribute from them, but you need at least two

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Maybe on a really big (non moon) planet it'd make more sense

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:25 AM

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yeah those are better for interplanetary logistics

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intraplanetary is better on larger planets probably, but i never colonized any big ones that needed it

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:28 AM

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the other thing: how do I look at other planets and see what veins they have?

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it seems implied by the second tier of the exploration technology but ''viewing' a planet just lets me look at a hologram... which isn't particularly useful

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 4:29 AM

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You have to unlock a few more tiers of that research from what I remember.

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 4:30 AM

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night fossil i think i ended up building a few giant hydrogen towers to soak up all the exces...

I opted for burning all the excess oil and hydrogen/deuterium for power. izzylurk

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:33 AM

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the sulfur thing really annoys me; you need loads of it for basically everything after tier 3 or whatever, but it's very difficult to make

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 4:35 AM

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Is when exploring off-world becomes handy. Some planets have resources that make the production chain less complicated.

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:36 AM

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Maybe I need to reroll then

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:37 AM

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i needed to go off-world for something important, i don't remember what

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:37 AM

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there's only 4 local planets, one is an ice giant, one is the home planet, and the other two are a barren desert and lava planet

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the Barren desert is basically a lava planet without the lava though. No silicon and no lava to build geothermal plants in

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 4:38 AM

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Ice giant is nice.

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:38 AM

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i recall gettign an orbital station around the ice giant making things a lot easier

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i think it was silicon i needed from off-world

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there wasn't much of it

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but more than at home

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 4:39 AM

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ppenk Doing that gave me more hydrogen than I could deal with at the time.

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Silicon and titanium are the two resources that seem to be in short supply on the home world.

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There is just enough to kick-start everything, but you have to go off-world to continue progressing.

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:40 AM

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clever

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:41 AM

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oh apparently you can get a material from ice giants that can be refined into graphene without using sulferic acid

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:42 AM

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ah, that must have been what made it so nice

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 4:42 AM

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flutternod So-called "fire ice".

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Did they give it a less odd name in the year or so since I last played it?

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 4:42 AM

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man i'm gonna have to fire up my game again aren't i

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i have too many ongoing games already

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FSWAAAAUGH

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 4:43 AM

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I want to see if what I have still works after these updates. twimerp

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 4:43 AM

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane_clathrate

Methane clathrate

Methane clathrate (CH4·5.75H2O) or (8CH4·46H2O), also called methane hydrate, hydromethane, methane ice, fire ice, natural gas hydrate, or gas hydrate, is a solid clathrate compound (more specifically, a clathrate hydrate) in which a large amount of methane is trapped within a crystal structure of water, forming a solid similar to ice. Original...

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 4:44 AM

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izzylurk

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 5:44 AM

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ppenk Looking at my factory reminds me of looking at code I wrote several months ago.

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 5:45 AM

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kirinhorror

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 5:46 AM

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I can figure it out, but it probably will take me a bit. twimerp

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It seems that, before I took my break from the game, I was working on transporting charged accumulators between a windy desert planet and another planet I was setting up a big iron smelter on.

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 6:14 AM

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Now I almost have it set up.

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I would finish it, but I want my sleep tonight. ppenk

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 7:53 AM

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I'm basically sitting here hand feeding a set of fusion reactors because I can't automate it yet

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 7:58 AM

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i did that with my nuke plants in factorio until i got my remote uranium train running

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 8:14 AM

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apparently they're adding combat of all things

night fossil Dec 31, 2022, 8:27 AM

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hmm

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 6:31 PM

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buh

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apparently you can launch solar sails and use the ray receiver to obtain the power they generate

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 6:32 PM

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flutternod Is a neat thing.

delicate veldt Dec 31, 2022, 6:34 PM

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I wish someone had said

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yikes

whole yacht Dec 31, 2022, 6:43 PM

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izzylurk

whole yacht Jan 1, 2023, 1:13 AM

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ccbounce

delicate veldt Jan 1, 2023, 1:15 AM

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I get the feeling this program may require a more powerful computer

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I had so much trouble setting this up

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At first I set it up and it was like 'okay but can I make them fire for longer? so I google it, and google says 'place the guns at the poles' So I do. But it doesn't work. and I think, well, maybe this pole is always night so it won't work, so I'll try the other pole. And it doesn't work either. then I google it again and googles like 'actually you should do 30degrees. and you know what? I started at 30 degrees! fml

night fossil Jan 1, 2023, 1:23 AM

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i think i just put mine wherever and got lucky

delicate veldt Jan 1, 2023, 1:27 AM

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my next push probably should be to get warp travel

delicate veldt Jan 1, 2023, 8:44 AM

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this game needs a gooddamn spreadsheet that tells you where everything is

delicate veldt Jan 1, 2023, 9:00 PM

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wow I'm dense. I've been trying to use fire ice for hydrogen.... completely forgetting that the gas giant I was mining HAD HYDROGEN

whole yacht Jan 4, 2023, 12:35 AM

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Quite compact.

night fossil Jan 4, 2023, 12:36 AM

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Man you're really gonna get me to open my save back up aren't you

whole yacht Jan 4, 2023, 12:37 AM

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izzysupercharged Do it.

delicate veldt Jan 4, 2023, 12:56 AM

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I've finally figured out this game, I think

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it's not really about building a dyson sphere, it's about making matrices

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the dyson sphere is just free energy

night fossil Jan 4, 2023, 12:57 AM

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Is it Gibbs' energy?

delicate veldt Jan 4, 2023, 12:58 AM

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you know it!

night fossil Jan 4, 2023, 12:59 AM

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That sounds spontaneous

delicate veldt Jan 4, 2023, 2:27 AM

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I wish I could put more than 10 logistics vessels on a tower... and control where that tower sent the vessels

delicate veldt Jan 5, 2023, 2:07 AM

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I really need to unlock antimatter so I can repower my mech in long warps

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I'm currently sitting in deep space, 9.52 lys from the target system

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all I wanted was some unipolar magnets :_:

whole yacht Jan 5, 2023, 5:21 AM

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mistywoohoo

delicate veldt Jan 5, 2023, 4:56 PM

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One thing that gets me is that you have antimatter reactions

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But you put the antimatter into an “artificial star”

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But stars are powered by fusion not m/a reactors

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*reactions

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I wonder why this is

whole yacht Jan 5, 2023, 5:04 PM

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Might be a translation thing.

delicate veldt Jan 5, 2023, 5:08 PM

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Yeah

delicate veldt Jan 6, 2023, 2:50 PM

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izzyscrunch I'm like 33 minutes from total victory when my powergrid starts shitting itself.

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I realize that I'm not getting enough critical protons from the ray receivers... or power.

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I look, and buh, my whole dyson swarm is gone.

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I knew, of course, that the dyson sphere itself consumed the swarm sails to construct itself, but I had set it up to continually regenerate the swarm so there'd be a) construction material for the sphere, and b) power/protons.

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So I hurry over to my EM ejector planet and realize, to my horror, that my production of sails had stopped at some point and they hadn't been firing off new sails for probably an hour. What happened? well, early in the production I had set up the planet so that it would pull in graphite from remote, only to realize after the fact that calling in fire ice and cracking it on the surface was a better choice. Since I had a large storage of it already in the terminal, I set up a couple of storage buildings and drained the excess into those buildings so I could delete the 'buy' order in the terminal and replace it with something else. Except I had never hooked it back up. It was working for a while but it just stopped.

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So I started draining the stored graphite into the construction grid only to realize that the rails aren't firing off enough sails per minute to actually grow the swarm. So I had to temporarily cut my rocket launcher and build a lot more rails to try and rebuild the swarm. It's working, but what a chore

night fossil Jan 6, 2023, 3:32 PM

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That do be how it go sometimes

delicate veldt Jan 6, 2023, 5:29 PM

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I also tried to start a remote antimatter operation but it turns out it’s hard to ship particle containers so I don’t have graviton lenses to make it worth it

delicate veldt Jan 6, 2023, 11:48 PM

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well, there we have it

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I've won the game

whole yacht Jan 6, 2023, 11:52 PM

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mistywoohoo

night fossil Jan 6, 2023, 11:55 PM

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delicate veldt Jan 7, 2023, 12:05 AM

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the worst problem with a game like this is that there's not really a whole lot of reason to play it again lol

whole yacht Jan 7, 2023, 1:19 AM

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Makes me think of Minecraft or Factorio. twimerp
Bright side is that this game is still in development so more stuff may come.

delicate veldt Jan 16, 2023, 7:57 AM

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blue prints are op

night fossil Jan 16, 2023, 8:03 AM

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neat

whole yacht Jan 16, 2023, 3:30 PM

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I need to make new blueprints. I had a mod that implemented that feature before this update. ppenk

delicate veldt Jan 17, 2023, 7:10 AM

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It took 127.5 hours but my dyson sphere (one shell) is complete)

delicate veldt Jan 21, 2023, 4:00 PM

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I feel like I've discovered something of an exploit: energy exchangers!

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one exchanger, consuming one battery, will produce 45 MW of power for 6 seconds

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It's not hard to set up a free energy planet with solar or wind and just transport the batteries back and forth

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two exchangers munching on 200 batteries is more than enough discharged power for my whole current planet

delicate veldt Jan 22, 2023, 5:15 AM

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oof

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I just found part of my grid running on 11% power. It looks like it was a whole oil extractor plus multiple refiniers trying to run off a single wind turbine

night fossil Jan 22, 2023, 5:18 AM

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i hope it was really windy

whole yacht Jan 22, 2023, 5:27 AM

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delicate veldt It's not hard to set up a free energy planet with solar or wind and just transpo...

izzylurk I was trying to set this up in my last session a few weeks ago.

delicate veldt Jan 22, 2023, 5:36 AM

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imo the solar ones are easier to set up

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just put three or so belts around the equator

whole yacht Jan 22, 2023, 6:03 AM

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izzylurk My approach as well.

delicate veldt Jan 22, 2023, 8:50 PM

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I started a new game and it's like... kind of hard mode. Outside of the home system, there's no gasgiants within 4 light years, and somehow the home system is very iron poor

delicate veldt Jan 29, 2023, 4:26 AM

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I've played this game for like 150 hours and only just realized... I don't NEED to have the cubes in my inventory to do research

night fossil Aug 8, 2023, 8:40 AM

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i accidentally until 4am again

night fossil Aug 9, 2023, 3:39 AM

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i managed a good swarm pattern this time

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maintaining around 3000 sails

exotic grove Sep 21, 2023, 12:28 PM

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHphozlQCgk

YouTube

Gamera Games

Dyson Sphere Program - Combat System: Rise of the Dark Fog Coming t...

Combat System: Rise of the Dark Fog will be free update in 2023 Dec.
Steam Store Page: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1366540/Dyson_Sphere_Program/

#dysonsphereprogram #strategy #simulation

▶ Play video

exotic grove Dec 7, 2023, 7:45 PM

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DSP achevements for dark fog just dropped

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These look like they're gonna be craaazyyyyy

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🌞 🛡️

delicate veldt Dec 7, 2023, 8:35 PM

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Has the update dropped?

exotic grove Dec 7, 2023, 8:35 PM

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no don't think so

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so this is like... a sneak peak

delicate veldt Dec 7, 2023, 8:43 PM

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Oh

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Sad

delicate veldt Dec 9, 2023, 5:40 AM

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apparently it's coming out on the 15th

delicate veldt Dec 10, 2023, 11:33 PM

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https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1366540/view/3906373040043459604

Dyson Sphere Program - Rise of the Dark Fog FAQ - Steam News

We hope this helps clarify any doubts you may have.

exotic grove Dec 11, 2023, 12:25 AM

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I still dunno if it'll add fun to the game or just frustration trixienervous

delicate veldt Dec 11, 2023, 12:41 AM

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yeah

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idk either

delicate veldt Dec 16, 2023, 4:59 AM

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they've added the pew pew

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how exciting

delicate veldt Dec 17, 2023, 4:29 AM

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this is sick. The signal tower lets your missile hit stuff from anywhere on the planet

exotic grove Dec 17, 2023, 4:31 AM

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Oh hell yeah

exotic grove Dec 28, 2023, 3:25 AM

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Got my first offworld outpost set up. silicon and titanium mining, plus copper mining for turret defense. I also got structural materials (yellow science) set up in under 6 hours this time. The 2nd playthrough is way faster. Go figure!

night fossil Dec 28, 2023, 3:25 AM

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turret defense?

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i don't remember if this game has enemies and i just play on peaceful like i do for factorio, or if they added them in a later update

exotic grove Dec 28, 2023, 3:26 AM

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Yeah, got to defence the base while I'm back home

exotic grove Dec 28, 2023, 3:26 AM

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exotic grove https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHphozlQCgk

This released

night fossil Dec 28, 2023, 3:39 AM

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ah

whole yacht Dec 28, 2023, 3:43 AM

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izzynothoughtsheadempty I lost my original save when I reset my computer so I guess I have an excuse to give this a try.

exotic grove Dec 28, 2023, 3:45 AM

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Sucks about the original save 😕 but yeah have to start over anyway

whole yacht Dec 28, 2023, 4:01 AM

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zippnervous

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At least now I know how to do things more efficiently in the early-to-mid game.

night fossil Dec 28, 2023, 4:05 AM

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i get to about the point i'm building mining ouposts on gas giants and i just stop

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i'm very bad at keeping it going past that

whole yacht Dec 28, 2023, 4:19 AM

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I feel you there. All those excess resources are tedious to manage.

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I got around it by building a lot of fuel plants to burn the excess flammables.

exotic grove Jan 1, 2024, 4:50 PM

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lol... the default, starting base got this. Had no idea it was even an achievement.

delicate veldt Jan 1, 2024, 6:13 PM

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I get the impression that they intended it to be a much more difficult achievement to get

exotic grove Jan 1, 2024, 7:00 PM

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Yeah 😂

exotic grove Jan 3, 2024, 9:39 PM

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lol

delicate veldt Jan 3, 2024, 11:24 PM

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lol

exotic grove Jan 5, 2024, 2:31 AM

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I thought I'd try taking on the base on the string world. They're tough. No luck. They seem to have a never ending supply of mobs, so I think the only way is to completely rip them apart in one attack

delicate veldt Jan 5, 2024, 4:34 AM

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exotic grove I thought I'd try taking on the base on the string world. They're tough. No luck...

string world?

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dark fog plays the game kind of like how the player does; they need mass and energy. If you destroy the relay station I believe they lose access to energy eventually and can't rebuild lost units, and destroying the core does the same, obviously

plain dawn Jan 27, 2024, 4:06 PM

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Anyone have a good build/video for early game chemicals? I've been following designs/videos/blueprints by the Nilaus youtube channel, but he seems to skip over the chemical plant part of things and I have no idea how to design something right for a chemical plant production line

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Last time I played like a year ago, one of the things that frustrated me most was the chemical production line so i don't want to repeat that

night fossil Jan 27, 2024, 4:54 PM

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I always end up winging it

delicate veldt Jan 27, 2024, 5:02 PM

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uh

night fossil Jan 27, 2024, 5:03 PM

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🍝

delicate veldt Jan 27, 2024, 5:05 PM

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tbh I'm not sure there is a 'good' set up for chemisty. The whole oil pipeline sucks ass, and I think the standard method is to just suffer through it until you can start producing warpers and then go grab the the rare ores that let you bypass most of it

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I suggest using fluid storage between the refineries and the oil rig though

plain dawn Jan 27, 2024, 5:57 PM

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I want to eventually get to this ppenk