Team Fortress 2

[marsh sinew]

year of 64-bit desktop… but only on Linux

it's like CS:GO, it was always 32-bit-only on Windows but Linux and macOS were 64-bit

[vagrant sparrow]

https://youtu.be/JLglnqkCJNc?si=EIHln5Qy6dsOmfPu

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/g2Cryn6K3Ew?si=BcKK_nkXhqXIjJbi

I find it funny that for most of the introduction part of this video I was completely distracted by the updated animations + centered viewmodels the guy has because they look rad

but also good video

[slate sorrel]

https://youtu.be/p8lmNGD7uio?si=b1HzReDhYAo4UPmK

This captures the heart and soul of the game's community

[vagrant sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YedgH1wtFX0

[vagrant sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEMmrCcujXg

[gloomy chasm]

https://youtu.be/mWkpUD_l4AQ

looks like TF2 is finally getting an upgrade

[marsh sinew]

this landed in a Linux test build a few weeks ago, looks like it's on Windows now

it's also funny because CS:GO never had 64-bit on Windows (only CS2 got that)

this makes TF2 the very first first-party Source 1 game to be 64-bit on Windows if I'm not mistaken

[thorny garden]

Emoji support is fucking insane

oh yeah and I guess all the other additions and benefits of being 64 bit are cool too /s

[gloomy chasm]

https://youtu.be/PCUfGa_OV_E

literally an hour of Soundsmith

[quasi coral]

[slate sorrel]

https://youtu.be/4eTnG_RlOns?si=hQP1IJhO7-TsaAoQ

[quasi coral]

That has to be the from the orange box edition of TF2

[slate sorrel]

Probably lol, I know for sure this ain't today's tf2

[cyan fulcrum]

Since I don't believe it was posted here yet, here's this video

https://youtu.be/gNVN0pEx6fs?si=kHGcJGZnHKdkxPwX

Beyond just "meme song" it's really well made with a lot of references to the TF2 community

[plush loom]

I have 22 tf2 cases and no keys

Im 13 cents short for a single key😭

[gloomy chasm]

give them to me i'll gamble them for you

[plush loom]

I have cases from winter of 2017

[gloomy chasm]

god damn

[plush loom]

I have no idea what to do with the cases

[gloomy chasm]

I think the 2017 ones will go up in value soon enough

[plush loom]

Yeah maybe

I suck at tf2

[gloomy chasm]

same

[plush loom]

I had like around 11 kills and 30 some deaths in the match i played

[plush loom]

I got 25 kills as pyro in the match i just played

[plush loom]

Also in that game someone liked my sir pentious pfp

[vagrant sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R95dqCG2HJk

[brazen cargo]

THE RITUAL HAS BEGUN

[vagrant sparrow]

Jojo heavy

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4Muc_b_erg new soundsmith TF2

[brazen cargo]

https://fxtwitter.com/kylulanimations/status/1765764787806318825

[gloomy chasm]

CERVEZA CRISTALLLL

i love how that meme is basically gaslighting people

[plucky tide]

Oh cool there's a tf2 thread here.
I got gifted the pony hat for my birthday last year and I'm very grateful for it :3

[digital cobalt]

I'm quite fond of the name "Bone Hurting Knife".

[plucky tide]

Thanks

the description reads "Yeah... I don't think your insurance will cover that."

[plucky tide]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8REVZE-REw

[vagrant sparrow]

https://youtu.be/EyK7mfXp0qs?si=qyH7hl-ZZ8xYZJG7

[delicate obsidian]

The voice actors are the best and I'm so happy that at least that is something the game still has https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SfsJ0X-2fk

[brazen cargo]

Boy, theyre getting old...

[delicate obsidian]

Which is why we should celebrate all the stuff they do because we can't be sure how long we'll have it for

[gloomy chasm]

https://youtu.be/1y1P9PIYNHU

(Spoiler for the video) ||totally knew Heavy would be the top tier||

[thorny garden]

the VAs were all already pretty old by the time they voiced the characters for the first time except for the Scout, I'm honestly surprised we still have them around let alone engaging with the community and the game so actively

[plucky tide]

Even then, Rick May (the voice actor for Soldier) was a notoriously resilient guy.

While it is sad that he passed away in 2021, we have to remember that he had gone through two strokes and a heart attack. Before he fell to covid, he was as active as ever and was passionately teaching at an acting school

[delicate obsidian]

They are just so incredible https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zS44YRil1AE

[modern sorrel]

Anyone wanna play with me Team fortress 2 ?

[gloomy chasm]

new heavy drip, who dis

... the message on the bottom left is peak TF2, ngl

[brazen cargo]

Your MOTHER superbass'd vine boom

[gloomy chasm]

but what do you think about the mongol heavy look?

[brazen cargo]

Looks fine, though i would have picked white for the coat instead of green

[modern sorrel]

Anyone who wants to play teams fortress 2 with me

[digital cobalt]

I'm certainly not opposed to a session, when time permits. As far as I go, though, the next few weeks are likely to be particularly busy.

Who knows; maybe we can set up a session with multiple participants in this channel, if schedules permit.
I know Calinou tried to set something up a bit ago, but it didn't quite work out that time.

[hazy marten]

64 bit update released

enjoy much performance and no bots until they get around to updating them

[brazen cargo]

teamfort 2 is finally 64 bit?

[plucky tide]

yep

They had a beta for it for a couple months

it was really good

but because you couldn't play with other people since the servers weren't updated, we never got to see the full effect of it

[brazen cargo]

but NOW...

teamfort has leveled up

[potent pewter]

yay a somewhat significant update!!!!!!!!!!

[plucky tide]

Oh this is a very significant update

64 bit means vastly improved performance on clients and greatly expanded memory limits for servers and custom maps

[plucky tide]

I'm playing my first round of 64-bit tf2 and god does it feel weird how smooth it runs now

like don't get me wrong

I got a good pc

it ran over 80 on average

but now

I'm running over 140 in combat

[brazen cargo]

really makes you wonder why they introduced 64 bit to TF2 all of a sudden

like, that's a HUGE upgrade to the game

[plucky tide]

Because they're planning something

[marsh sinew]

128-bit upgrade

[grim tendon]

Can this be some where to ask for team members for their tf2 game

[plucky tide]

I'd love to but I'm working on a pre-vis storyboard

[grim tendon]

This is open for anyone..who would join a tf2 game

[modern sorrel]

anyone wanna play team fortress 2 with me ?

[thorny garden]

https://vxtwitter.com/heavyfortres/status/1782126713914175627?t=QUehOVptgMaZgDV82GYJ1g&s=19

Dear god

[hazy marten]

oh no

[gloomy chasm]

oh YES

[marsh sinew]

most font issues are fixed on the Linux port now, no more tiny fonts or getting weird font substitutes

[thorny garden]

https://vxtwitter.com/yen00280/status/1783357808320160205

https://vxtwitter.com/yen00280/status/1781768091510210599

[plucky tide]

Miss Pauling's cute

I hope she gets some sleep though

I don't like seeing my favourite characters be burntout :(

[fathom stag]

I missed 100 player tf2 holy shit

[modern sorrel]

Anyone wanna play team fortress 2 with me

[fathom stag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Osdh9Nk2mu8

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/2stmQfv93oQ?si=hVYlZhm_yoSRwnRh

[brazen cargo]

Point is, give up hope

[plucky tide]

No :)

[slate sorrel]

https://youtu.be/tQfQLBtdnyc?si=g7ACXyBTgbzULohZ

Poor BLU medic

[gloomy chasm]

a classic

[modern sorrel]

Anyone wanna play with me Team fortress 2

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/sc94s7tyGp8?si=w114SqvFGKY-hnIe

Pleasantly surprising to me that we're still getting videos like these to this day

[gloomy chasm]

https://youtu.be/Hq1m6fCslYk

i'm pretty sure this is a crime-

[vagrant sparrow]

You can't just parry a nu- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WgYcZ4YGMc

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/pT2aM2mbSvM?si=DCn8sMqqLwu0aBO2

Super cool stuff

[marsh sinew]

oh, the HL2 Ep2 normal mapping trick

it's a pretty underused trick, but quite limited in its application because it only works across one axis

it worked great for the caves in HL2 Ep2, which are narrow

modern engines can do it in a more generalized way, but they need a dedicated texture map for it, which means using more memory (and is generally slower too)

[thorny garden]

So, because I'm stupid and don't understand the specifics, this means Valve implemented this in the most efficient way?

[plucky tide]

Oh it uses bump maps

That's neat

Oh, I'm so wrong

This does look very fascinating though

[marsh sinew]

the technique was made in 2007, I think nobody else did this in games before

there are other techniques for self-shadowed normal maps like horizon normal mapping (from Eric Lengyel), but that technique didn't see much use in games until years later

HL2 Ep2 had a bunch of graphics innovations that the base game and Ep1 did not have, so it aged quite well visually

(remember the bridge destruction physics? They are precalculated physics using Alembic, that's new in HL2 Ep2)

[thorny garden]

yet another common valve w

[tight moon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNxjTciIwig

[marsh sinew]

https://save.tf

[brazen cargo]

TF2 will not be saved

better to move to community servers if you want to play the game

[thorny garden]

Maybe but no reason to put others down if they still want to campaign and do SaveTF2

[echo needle]

feels like the new valve game is sending a message that they dont care abt tf2

[delicate obsidian]

Everyone should just ignore it so that valve sees we don't care about new stuff while the old still needs saving

Not to mention it looks pretty bad

[echo needle]

i disagree it looks rather interesting

its very ambitious

[echo needle]

from a game dev theres reasons

1. most games do in that state
2. theres an art style change

so the assets are being slowly remade to the new art style

so theres a massive mismatch in that build

[delicate obsidian]

The problem is that there are a thousand other games that are just like it but do it better

[echo needle]

i cant name one

really

its pretty much Dota mixed in with Apex and OW and TF2

its a Moba game fully

with rails

it seems very unique!

[slate sorrel]

An issue I have with the whole "save/fixtf2" stuff is the fact that it only will double the amount of pressure of the smaller team that is working on TF2. Valve doesn't exactly "organize" their teams from what I can recall, the employees choose what to work on via gauged interest. I'm concerned that if this movement has any actual response from Valve, they'll put pressure on the team to release something to hold people over, so a half-finished buggy patch that the bots will workaround in a week's time, which will set back the bot crisis of both TF2 and CS2 if the bot hosters get any info about the new patch.

[marsh sinew]

I signed the petition (it takes 15 seconds), but I don't expect anything huge to happen

[marsh sinew]

yeah, that's true judging from their employee handbook (which is public)

fighting bots is always a cat-mouse-game, just like anticheat

[slate sorrel]

Demanding that valve fix the game is fun and all, but, what exactly does "forcing" Valve to "fix" the game even amount to? What are the possible negative ramifications of this train?
(Also no disrespect to the people who signed the petition, this is just a general didagreement to the people who started the movements in the first place, as well as the types of people who tend to "well if you're not with me, then you're my enemy" types that I see all over Reddit)

[marsh sinew]

Valve might be one of the easiest game companies to play devil's advocate for. 😛

they have such a good street cred after all

(and lots of players with Stockholm syndrome...)

[slate sorrel]

(Especially lots of players with stockholm syndrome )

[marsh sinew]

to be fair, regarding the bot crisis, banning sniper class from casual would already do a fair bit

bots can't do as much harm with other classes, and casuals playing sniper is never that good anyway

(like spy :P)

[echo needle]

CS2 basically said that TF2 has to adapt to new code

[marsh sinew]

we could always use more medics in casual 🙂

[echo needle]

cus no one at valve knows how tf2 works anymore

they want to upgrade it and remake it

to ever work on it meaningfully again

a full remake of the code and engine

Source 2

if it wont, they will never touch it again

[marsh sinew]

I recall them saying they'd never port TF2 to Source 2

[echo needle]

i dont think so

tf2 is basically dead dev wise if they wont upgrade it

:/

[slate sorrel]

I'm just really skeptical about the movement due to the possible consequences, as I keep harping about
It makes me nervous that it could cause valve to look at the movement, think "people aren't liking the game anymore, lets close these expensive, bot infested servers" or the rest of the TF2 dev team leaving out of the cracking pressure, and end up in the same ending.

[marsh sinew]

honestly, the game would be better off with only community servers now

they are a better experience, even for newcomers

CS 1.6/Source work like that, they never had official servers

I'll always maintain that player-hosted servers is a better model for a game's longevity, but that's just me

[echo needle]

dw uncletopia will keep the game alive 💪

[marsh sinew]

you join a server regularly, you make friends/enemies there and stay. You keep recognizing people

[slate sorrel]

I mean, yeah! That's a big part of my other gripe. A community server renaissance should be happening right now.

[echo needle]

uncletopia is

decent amt

[marsh sinew]

I play on the Potato mvm servers

[echo needle]

the game just isnt in the mainstream anymore

[marsh sinew]

they have nice custom maps

[slate sorrel]

Potato is a nice server

[echo needle]

i miss when jungle inferno was out

last big update

[hazy marten]

uncletopia is my main go to now

even met uncle dane himself the last two days on there, which was cool

[echo needle]

uncletopia is great but it sucks for a casual experience

its definitely a lot higher skill and less varied in player levels

[hazy marten]

yeah that's the thing

you can't really "relax" and pubstomp

[echo needle]

its not the tf2 pub experience, and friendlies dont even exist

[hazy marten]

i have the skill to consistently top score, but the opposing skill is so much higher

[echo needle]

i do like random crits and bullet spread being off

[hazy marten]

I feel like i've met some of the greatest medics and scouts i've ever seen there

[echo needle]

as a scout bullet spread is really annoying

spies too

there was a crazy spy who no one could do anything abt

[hazy marten]

if you can do well as spy in uncletopia then you're a god lol

[echo needle]

yep they were

[hazy marten]

spy is the most inconsistent and rage inducing class for me
i can completely ruin one server and then score zero points the next

[brazen cargo]

uncletopia

[echo needle]

yea hes mostly a surprise pick

as a scout i really dont have to deal with spies or snipers

[hazy marten]

yeah scout has a really high skill ceiling surprisingly, those godly scouts you see in uncletopia are so good at dodging you start to question your aim

[echo needle]

yea thats me

[hazy marten]

the only thing is that you have to worry about sentries

[echo needle]

winger and atomizer makes it easier

boston basher/three rune blade u can do jumps with too

did u know with the boston basher u can jump over the castle in degroot?

[hazy marten]

yeah i don't know how they do it, i can do really well on scout but not that extra level

[echo needle]

lol

u can literally get into the castle

before the gate comes up

so funny

[hazy marten]

like going over?

[echo needle]

yea

the boston basher gives the most vertical height

out of any scout weapon

[hazy marten]

wait really, more than the atomizer?

dang

[echo needle]

yea way more

way more

the cost is the dot

damage over time

so u have to heal immediately

its like engi bullet boosting

which iis better than sentry rocket jumping

theoretically

[hazy marten]

is it worth it over the atomizer though in regular games

i mean how do you dodge rockets like that lol

[brazen cargo]

I LOVE uncletopia

And i only went there ONCE

I like a less casual atmosphere tbh

Friendlies suck, skill gaps blow, and playing as a real team is glorious

[marsh sinew]

bullet spread off is a big buff to shotguns and shortstop by the way

due to how spread is calculated

shotguns that already have fixed spread by design (like Panic Attack) don't benefit from this though, so they are likely best avoided

[marsh sinew]

does spy's revolver have no spread when random spread is off? I thought this only affected weapons that fired multiple bullets per shot

same for sniper's SMG and medic's syringe gun

these could get pretty OP otherwise

[echo needle]

Boston Basher/Three Rune Blade is the best melee for a pocket/medic scout

as u can farm for Uber super fast

just self harm lol

[marsh sinew]

/r/nocontext

[echo needle]

Atomizer is good with Stock/ Pretty boys, arguably useless with Winger

i actually prefer Candy Cane over Atomizer with the Winger

the candy cane just gives u free healing for every kill and its awesome

[marsh sinew]

Candy Cane was my OG choice when I was young

I use fan o' war now because of mvm

[echo needle]

its good with the Winger, since ur already never gonna get hit by explosions anyways

[marsh sinew]

Candy Cane isn't a bad choice for mvm either, it's just that fan o' war is so good

[echo needle]

idk why u woul duse candy cane for mvm

scout in mvm is pretty locked to Money Scout lol

people will vote kick u if u dont get all the money

miss just one, its joever

[marsh sinew]

if you kill small robots, they'll drop a lot of packs for teammates (especially pyro) to pick up

[echo needle]

only a secondary scout would really do that if playing seriously

idk money scout is too important

[marsh sinew]

I've played a lot of rounds where we missed a few credits and I didn't get votekicked

[echo needle]

they showed u mercy

people get so toxic over it, its a joke lol

we usually just say it as a joke

within friend groups

its like "Clutch or kick" in cs

every boston basher/three rune blade

it is a cool reskin for only like $4 pro killstreak

i didnt name this or put the description, thats just what it came with

[hazy marten]

emolander lol

[plucky tide]

https://save.tf/

Today is the day.

[brazen cargo]

so thats the plan

hope it works out.

[echo needle]

signed it

[brazen cargo]

i did too

[echo needle]

ive signed so many of these

feels hopeless

[slate sorrel]

I'd still like to ask the creators of this movement, as well as the past savetf2 movements, what they think Valve is really going to do. They bring up things like WOW and Helldivers 2, both of which had active dev teams at the time of their crises, while TF2 clearly does not. (which I brought up before when talking about this) The TF2 team can't just release an unfinished anti-cheat patch for the bot hosters to peak through the cracks and work around.

I'm more afraid that this could be the nail in the coffin for TF2's end. Especially considering the talk of pulling a new, unreleased game by Valve down, just to get them to do something about their 17 year old, spaghetti code of a game.

[echo needle]

add the dog class and civilian class.
nerf demo
buff spy
rework heavy

add a overwatch system like in cs and a proper anti cheat.

tf2 saved

[analog nebula]

do not trust valve with anti cheats,VAC never did shit in cs,nor in tf2

[echo needle]

they added a new anti cheat to cs2

[analog nebula]

its dogshit,doesnt work

[echo needle]

its very interesting and secretive

it does

its been detecting way more

[analog nebula]

detecting way more but still slipping more than acceptable

[echo needle]

better than most anticheats tbh

[analog nebula]

cheating rates are higher than ever since cs2 release to the point its genuinely common even in lower ranks

[echo needle]

it gets targettef

valorant would too

easily

[analog nebula]

nope

vanguard is near impossible to cheat with

[echo needle]

valorant is easy to hack

very easy

[analog nebula]

kernel level anti cheat btw

[echo needle]

it just isnt targetted and valorant is less popular

[analog nebula]

LESS POPULAR

[echo needle]

easily bypassed

kernal level isnt as good as u think it is

its really easy to bypass it

[analog nebula]

it works in practice really well

[echo needle]

not really and threatens personal secuirty

faceit has kernal level and it still gets hacked as does valorant

[analog nebula]

even fucking pro players of cs wanted valve to add a vanguard-like anti cheat

[echo needle]

it wouldnt do much

truthfully

[analog nebula]

oh it would,even just pulling away the dipshit kiddos buying hacks with their mom's card would be a huge step which valve isnt doing rn

[echo needle]

theyre pretty distributed in communities

for free

valorant just isnt as popular nor does it get targetted

ud hear a lot more abt it there

russians are also banned from valorant

so 90% less cheatint

[analog nebula]

less popular?

[echo needle]

thats twitch not player numbers

cs2 gets around 1.5 million
valorant is 700k

still good but nowhere as high

[analog nebula]

a lot of it being bots

[echo needle]

unknown

but cs2 is super popular

valorant is more na dominant

cs2 more global

and europe dominant

not many play valorant in europe

[analog nebula]

valorant is mainly EU dominant if anything,apart from the comp scene

[echo needle]

hardly

[analog nebula]

general ranked scene is very EU heavy

[echo needle]

its very na dominant

[echo needle]

cus eu are better cs players

easy money

tf2 needs active devs to save it and from valve, its gonna need an engine upgrade.

at least an overhaul

[analog nebula]

this btw

[echo needle]

valve is a tech company not a game company. they dont dwell on past tech really

[slate sorrel]

It makes me so very tired of hearing about it, since again, I don't see anyone in community spaces (besides actual doomers who put everyone down for supporting the movement, that I disagree with) that think about the negative reprecussions of these movements. I love the game, but I honestly want it to stay how it is until the TF2 dev team is finished. People should start building communities in community servers, improve our community's image so we're not as toxic as it is (neither of which are happening mind you).

[echo needle]

not concurrent

[slate sorrel]

Thats the end of my vent

[echo needle]

concurrent its 700k vs cs2s 1.5 million

cs2 is very popular

its a f2p game on steam whatd u expect

[echo needle]

right, look at the right

thats over 24 hours

divide by 24 hours to get per hour

thats commulative over a day too possibly

not concurrent

its around 600-700k ish

concurrent

[analog nebula]

the difference is nowhere near big enough to change the cheating landscape at all,valorant even at its peak NEVER had a cheating problem

[echo needle]

See heres the thing. valve took down a fan port of tf2 to source 2

they did the same for cs

so i think theres a chance it could get ported in the future

i havent lost hope on that

[slate sorrel]

Yeah, Valve is clearly still trying to update the game the best they can. Progress is just slow.

[echo needle]

truthfully i think a problem is how complex tf2 is

think ow, it was so simple and easy to pick up

tf2 is not easy to understand

a lot of hidden and not obvious

pyros airblasting, extinguishing? airblast rocket jumping?

never explained anywhere

[slate sorrel]

A big selling point in the savetf2 stuff is "Valve hates us" and "Valve wants TF2 to die", when that clearly isn't the case.

[echo needle]

bullet jumping or sentry jumping? neither

tf2 takes like 100 hrs to sort of understand a lil

500 hours at least to fully comprehend

its very complicated

CS takes one game to understand the basics

[analog nebula]

yea but you need to know advanced stuff just to get out of low rank

[echo needle]

tf2 needs a better tutorial and introduction

the default settings are a mess

never been fixed

u have to fiddle with so many huds, custom files and console commands

its a hard sell

[slate sorrel]

TF2's source code is really tricky to configure in of itself as well, based on the similar code of SFM (and those funny dev comments of Valve employees that paints the code as incredibly frustrating, even for higher level coders)

[echo needle]

the whole game needs an overhaul

[slate sorrel]

Everything has a skill ceiling, even the hidden 10th class, the coders

[echo needle]

valve admits the balancing is off

[echo needle]

its pretty untouchable

i wouldnt want to touch it with a 20 foot long pull

i doubt anyone at valve does

what sounds more appealing

working on some crazy new valve vr tech

or on a decade old game from 2007

2 decade old game

on a dead engine really

with ancient glyphs

[slate sorrel]

9/10 times its the innovative VR tech, with the 1/10 being the current TF2 coding team

Bless the janitor and the plant

[echo needle]

lol

tf2 deserves so much more

i hate the state it is in

[echo needle]

the mann co store is still atrocious

way too overpriced

new players often experience it and think overpriced items

not realising theres a marketplace

[slate sorrel]

The game itself, definitely. The community? Not so much. And I'm saying this as a mod for a TF2 community server.

[echo needle]

theres a vr tf2 project a friend was on

if interested

[echo needle]

community too
tf2 competitive players have been suffering for so long

lol

content creators basically gone

[slate sorrel]

I hear a lot about how the server I mod in is "one of the few safe spaces to go to" due to the fact that other places are so incredibly toxic, filled with slurs, racism, transphobia, all that kinda stuff.

[echo needle]

thats most discord servers ngl

[slate sorrel]

Not that the server isn't a toxic place either mind you. We've had our fair share of fucked up moments.

[echo needle]

like wh

[slate sorrel]

Nah, this is on the TF2 servers

We even had a spiteful group of players form an "anti-us" server, out of spite for our discord not being 18+. (Since we want the discord to be SFW, while our TF2 server is NSFW. Children are still banned on sight.)

It's an incredibly toxic, 4channer-esque place, with some really bad things happening there that I don't feel are appropriate for manechat

I don't have very much favorability with the community how it is now, which is why I mention it specifically.

Manechat is actually the place I come to when I want to get away from all that stuff, since you can have actual conversation in here, without someone posting a meme partway through the conversation and derailing everything. No politics, no aggression, a smaller amount of allowed toxic members, it's nice here.

[vagrant sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zuy4-6h8qO0

[quasi coral]

https://vxtwitter.com/stephenasmith/status/1797786445442068623

[hazy marten]

lol between this and the guy calling him about lightning mcqueen

what a legend

[echo needle]

https://youtu.be/oHEUKgmGcTY?si=N130PjwCoxj7eGf7

i appreciate the exposure

[timber basalt]

^^ I also like openfortess quite much

but with 1 server full and all other servers empty its not that much fun

[echo needle]

ouch

i havent read thru the new wave of tf2 reviews

i hope valve will do something

big difference in reviews

[tight moon]

This pair of videos mathing, then proving, how many TF2 players are actually just idle/trade bots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2stmQfv93oQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnuxHZm73PU

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/IRij8uWsbg0?si=ovRRFI5s1goFQql7

[hazy marten]

they're banning a ton of bots recently, and so far so good today

[vagrant sparrow]

TANGO DOWN! https://youtu.be/bg9w6FgR9C8

[brazen cargo]

Dayum

Why are these dipshits even running the botnets anyways?

[thorny garden]

Variety of reasons, a lot of them really petty and pathetic, even though it may seem too obvious to be true or too cartoonishly evil

From people that are mad at the game, want to see it crash and burn, take satisfaction in the fact that other players' experiences are ruined, people that are bad at the game and are upset, and people that simply want to make money off of the bot/cheats economy

[brazen cargo]

i see, a myriad of reasons

[gloomy chasm]

The truth is, the game was rigged from the start.

[cyan fulcrum]

No that's the #1032717462753517681 thread

[gloomy chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mK8-TQUE94Q good GOD

nearly 5 hours

[quasi coral]

time to eat

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN3RXWk_jYc new uncle dane tf2

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYqfCy17Rtc

[thorny garden]

https://fxtwitter.com/shoun1c/status/1810890500980830322?t=vy3vFPRA45aDkSVaGt3bmw&s=19

We're so back

We've never been more back

[brazen cargo]

Holy shid

[quasi coral]

https://vxtwitter.com/DailyTF2Memes/status/1810978422190915855

[thorny garden]

https://fxtwitter.com/heavyfortres/status/1812583762242470240

TF2 humor: laugh emote, bind kill/explode

[marsh sinew]

I always have bind k kill in my config

it's convenient for switching classes more easily or going back to the upgrade station in MvM

[thorny garden]

I think the most in depth I went with any console command stuff is fucking with the viewmodels

I have that obnoxious ''arms are floating'' viewmodel fov

[quasi coral]

that's the VR view model

[thorny garden]

Nah I don't mean the third person viewmodel I mean increasing the default viewmodel's fov

like this

[quasi coral]

[marsh sinew]

I remember when you could hide the viewmodel entirely. Those were the days...

[hazy marten]

you still can

[thorny garden]

it's not that bad

[quasi coral]

it's interesting, it looks fine on the scout, but that demoman view model is something funky

[thorny garden]

yeah that image is just one from google images this is what my demo looks like

[quasi coral]

okay, yeah, like this it doesn't look bad

[thorny garden]

Yeyeye I do it just enough so it doesn't look too terrible, although there is some slight clipping especially with any melee weapon

[plucky tide]

Speaking of configs

anypony here MasterComfig enjoyers

[thorny garden]

https://fxtwitter.com/DalfRew/status/1814192189104140520

https://fxtwitter.com/SuperrTanker/status/1814120382808396225

[plucky tide]

Sorry

I was hungry X3

Also I think it's hilarious that we got a map called Applejack

Intentional or not, the MLP haters are gonna be mad lol

[marsh sinew]

it's 2012 all over again 🙂

[plucky tide]

Hell yeah it is

speaking of the applejack map

https://www.tumblr.com/punkitt-is-here/756769482330996737

Saw this treasure

[marsh sinew]

look what I got

[plucky tide]

They fixed the Applejack stairs

let's goo

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/tjuoGJmE0KA?si=uqf8vxM2llx7cgm7

[gloomy chasm]

[quasi coral]

https://vxtwitter.com/M0TI0NL3SSINWES/status/1819955417046241313

[thorny garden]

The unhinged laugh is how you know that's a tf2 player

[gloomy chasm]

That, I can't deny.

[thorny garden]

https://fxtwitter.com/heavyfortres/status/1820114415565336724

killcam is from 2010
friggin' awesomesauce

[quasi coral]

pl_badwater is eternal

[plucky tide]

tf2 killcams are the best

here's one of my favourites

wrong one

Here

I love the suspense of this killcam so much

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pegjpC8IELU new soundsmith

[fathom stag]

HOLY COW

[hexed drum]

https://fixupx.com/4poll0gum/status/1823724307178250468?s=46

[hexed drum]

https://x.com/4poll0gum/status/1824079699888201852?s=46

Gummy (@4poll0gum) on X

caught RED-handed,, #engiespy

Twitter · Aug 15, 2024, 1:44 PM

[marsh sinew]

I thought these were Team Fortress Classic characters at a glance

like, the TFC engineer shipped with the TFC scout or something

[thorny garden]

I think the only canonical female on the TFC team was Pyro

[marsh sinew]

https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Pyro_(Classic)

[thorny garden]

the BLU Pyro*

[marsh sinew]

interesting

[fathom stag]

My minor cameo

[brazen cargo]

That looks like a nightmare

[digital cobalt]

That looks beautiful.

[quasi coral]

https://youtu.be/Q1jAUWwtrAo?si=yqIip_t0vQPNh_j0&t=505

[gloomy chasm]

https://youtu.be/9SPrkIpiF1Q

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ketBlyq62c

[thorny garden]

https://fxtwitter.com/KostamoinenSFM/status/1837441077470474266?t=zUvkzSjg7g_9JYXB1zgj0Q&s=19

[plucky tide]

"Just relax" Elbow Drops you

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEmAzgAH-gc new sound smith tf2

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/oFIIx9rZWKs?si=j05kfex5ENYXT5_U

My favourite thing about TF2 and any other Source game is that no matter how good your mic is it will always sound like you're speaking through a bucket

[marsh sinew]

Speex (the codec used by Source 1 VoIP) only goes so far. Did Source 2 switch to Opus? I forgot

it doesn't help that the bitrates were tuned for ADSL connections circa 2007

[quasi coral]

it adds to the experience

[thorny garden]

https://fxtwitter.com/emc_exe/status/1841620887021265345

https://fxtwitter.com/emc_exe/status/1841977009960059316

https://fxtwitter.com/DKrunks/status/1841937581887373747

my favourite one

[brazen cargo]

I LOVE THIS TOO AHAHA

a dude taunted after killing me just after a spy decloaked behind him

it was such a glorious killcam

[digital cobalt]

Killcams truly are one of the game's built-in comedy subroutines.

Here's one of mine from ~8 years ago.

[quasi coral]

https://vxtwitter.com/M0TI0NL3SSINWES/status/1819955417046241313

[vagrant sparrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1211074772155244625/1292101039805431930/RecordIt-2EEDB42C-CE57-4BFA-85B7-985657478B99.mp4?ex=67032b1d&is=6701d99d&hm=070caa6dea315396d29626e77d2fb76c9a0ba092943fa72301367c08276d17d9& I found this made in sfm and thought it would be fitting sense it is time to get your contracts for Halloween done

[storm grotto]

@turbid drift Use this thread. Don't make a new thread for the same topic.

[turbid drift]

Sorry. I’m not good at something sometimes

[storm grotto]

Don't worry about it

[turbid drift]

I just didn’t know some one already has it

[storm grotto]

That's what the search box is for

[turbid drift]

Okay

[vagrant sparrow]

Also It's been almost 2 weeks and we still haven't gotten the contract's yet. I'll try to properly update this topic when the haloween update comes out or if it does

[vagrant sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7baMnAFDHVI Nvm we got the update

[thorny garden]

https://fxtwitter.com/heavyfortres/status/1849564536795242979

[quasi coral]

[gloomy chasm]

![ar](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1134963542689333258.webp?size=128 "ar")Reverted BLU Scout pants fix because it conflicts with too many existing cosmetics

they unfixed the pants

[marsh sinew]

damn

cosmetics ruining things for everyone once again. 👀

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYMnBRJLRTs

[gloomy chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbJt-RRdSLQ

[brazen cargo]

POOTIS

[slate sorrel]

As promised, heavy will now lay egg... in your mouth.

[vagrant sparrow]

Pootishead bird

[slate sorrel]

https://youtu.be/dPXQmpZ0rsM?si=NIuLRloWlaRDj-WP

"This is scout, rainbows make me cry, over!"

[hazy marten]

wow that's jananimation levels of quality show-like animation

[thorny garden]

My Little Pony x Team Fortress 2 animations?

Close enough, welcome back 2014!

[quasi coral]

more like 2011

I actively remember playing on mlp servers back then because they were decent pool of players with unique map rotations

[thorny garden]

It was 2014 for me, that was the time period where I personally was huge into TF2 and MLP at the same time

[quasi coral]

just another day in casual tf2

[thorny garden]

A--

[slate sorrel]

https://youtu.be/pWW3pws84dM?si=sIzW_FmPpv3mQeF5

This right here? This is soul

[marsh sinew]

I played TF2 Classic and OpenFortress this week

I also installed the new Fortress Forever beta and finished the tutorial, but didn’t play online yet

[quasi coral]

Garry's mod cinema

[slate sorrel]

https://youtu.be/9DWB-AroRTs?si=XYzsc0pDwNUIUh-o

[thorny garden]

https://fxtwitter.com/dhabiheng/status/1698713258830827684

he's him

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGpKmJLSmlA new uncle dane

[hazy marten]

i played this back in august while uncle dane was on spectating lol

super fun but back then there was a limited map pool so it got repetitive, learned a ton of meta strats

[slate sorrel]

Idk if you all have heard, but

[hazy marten]

yes

[slate sorrel]

https://www.teamfortress.com/tf07_thedayshavewornaway/

Finally

[hazy marten]

woohoo

[thorny garden]

Good news, we're not gonna die, we are gonna live forever!

Let's go Heavy update 2025

[cyan fulcrum]

Valve: I didn't say that!

[gloomy chasm]

i did an mvm today

not my finest work but we got through

[quasi coral]

mvm is so fun

[gloomy chasm]

got kicked from an MvM game for failing a wave

[slate sorrel]

That's sadly normal. MVM is full of tryhards.

And I use that term in the negative sense of the term, not just "trying the hardest to win" base term

[brazen cargo]

people get whiny in MVM because they think there's stakes and they're trying to rush as fast as they can to their next australium weapon.

[gloomy chasm]

lmao

[gloomy chasm]

didn't get an Aussie from my tour, but I did treat myself to this

shing shing

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/5Ia3XsMIUKM?si=NLOON1wId1GpzEtT

[quasi coral]

If it exists, there is a TF2 version of it

[gloomy chasm]

got myself a little something

now if only i would actually get 2fort

[gloomy chasm]

[hexed drum]

https://youtu.be/HOZgcmryShg?feature=shared

[fathom stag]

Great Blue: I’m not a furry

Also Great Blue:

[slate sorrel]

Totally not

[gloomy chasm]

lookie here~

[gloomy chasm]

holy shit i think i'm cooking with this

[fathom stag]

Nice!!!

[gloomy chasm]

NOW Ii'm cooking

[gloomy chasm]

me: "i don't play pyro"
also me:

funni ref tho

[gloomy chasm]

Fan of war kill

[gloomy chasm]

Just hanging out in 2fort intel- HOLY SHIT IS THAT SOUNDSMITH

[thorny garden]

Was just going through my Steam inventory looking for any stuff I could sell after I lucked out with some old CS crates I sold the other day and found I have 9 MvM tickets
I could sell all of them for like 10 bucks but I was wondering if it would be worth actually completing a tour or two and maybe lucking out some more money with any of the rewards, it would give me an excuse to play some more TF2 at least since it's been a while, I thought I'd ask in case any of you are familiar with the whole MvM part of the game

[quasi coral]

MvM is a fun horde shooter I’ve got I think 30 tours for two cities and atleast 2 for the other tours

[marsh sinew]

engie on offense is more fun to me, even if it's harder

even with normal sentry that you keep on level 1 most of the time

[marsh sinew]

I play potato mvm these days, camp got boring after playing it for years

I don't do tours because I'd rather not buy tickets

(I know you can leave before it ends to avoid using the ticket, but still)

[thorny garden]

Right, I know what MvM is I was just wondering if any of you guys knew if maybe it was worth it more for me to do a couple tours and maybe luck out with some of the rewards or just sell the tickets right now

I know buying tickets is straight up not worth it at all compared to the rewards you get, but since I just have the tickets already...

I'm not too familiar with the rewards to really know so I was wondering, all I know is buying tickets to play mann up mode is definitely not worth it at least for anyone trying to make a profit

[brazen cargo]

I play on a MVM server frequently that has a 20 player cap but typically does these ludicrously difficult Click missions with most enemies having crits and increased base damage or other insane mechanics and sometimes even 20 people isnt enough. Loads of fun

[brazen cargo]

I say, smoke em if you got em. You have nothing to lose, aside from a bit of patience, and the people who get pissy for not being 100 percent optimal are not as common as you might think, but i would recommend go around finding folks to team up with who arent gonna be that way.

[thorny garden]

Yeah that's what I was thinking, since I just had these laying around I'm not really losing anything especially since you don't use a ticket for joining a game just for completing a mission, and if I were to get lucky and get a nice killstreak kit or maybe even something as insane as an australium I'd make more than what I'd make selling the tickets
And also, it gives me an excuse to play after so long

I also don't mind being a bit sweaty and competitive, just not to the point where toxicity starts to appear lol

[thorny garden]

one more mission to complete the tour

let's see what I get

I was expecting a super sweaty toxic experience but it's been super chill so I'm glad I decided to play even if I don't get anything 'profitable' in the end

[thorny garden]

ah that's alright

[brazen cargo]

eyelander kit, not bad

track kills while you track kills

[thorny garden]

Weirdly enough I can't actuall sell the eyelander kit
double weirdly enough, I already had a kit on my inventory that was worth way more, the professional dragon's fury kit

dunno where that one came from

I'll probably play another tour and see if I get anything else, if anything I can just sell the robo parts anyways, those will probably get me something, this is all steam wallet money I got from selling old crates and other stuff so I don't really care about ''losing'' any money here, it's all profit

I just got done playing the first game of a new tour and it was pretty chill, there was this one guy who was probably new and needed some pointers and we all just kinda calmly explained what to do and he played pretty good actually

so that was pretty nice

[brazen cargo]

a pro killstreak dragons fury kit, that's good stuff

i wanna get a dragon slayer dragons fury sometime

[thorny garden]

it's just unfortunate I can't actually craft the kit itself much less actually apply it to a dragon's fury because you need 2 unique killstreak items for it and a bunch of robot parts

but hey it's there, and it's worth a bit...

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/p2xlZWGNkRQ?si=6qrfz2javdnspRL-

Hah, this is actually really nice

[marsh sinew]

looks great, I should try it

and also install a custom HUD again, I guess

[thorny garden]

I've been watching a couple videos on custom huds recently actually

https://youtu.be/0l2fHZJ8TEA?si=wU65Tac3HF2iNSZ5

https://youtu.be/fSY6uSwim8o?si=CxxY62F3H14gORFg

I've been using ahud for... years and years now, I've never really felt a need to change it at all, but I can definitely experiment around with some huds that aren't as minimalist and maybe try something with more style, maybe even go for something like middle mann hud or something

ahud works perfectly fine for me though even if it can look a little bare bones sometimes

[plucky tide]

https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=238809

TF2 SDK just got announced!!

[marsh sinew]

also related: https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/02/counter-strike-source-and-day-of-defeat-source-get-major-updates-with-64bit-support/

Updated ctf_applejack

Added block bullets to some stores
Unblocked a window at mid, allowing Snipers to shot across the middle hut
Removed the missing texture in BLU spawn
Gave a chicken a friend, **because friendship is magic**

(emphasis mine)

[fathom stag]

I love how ctf_applejack is allegedly not named after the pony but the jist is up now

Holy shit graphics updates

[fathom stag]

This also means TF2Classic can be put on steam now

[brazen cargo]

same with open fortress

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/3W2JdA_UYiw?si=ELSVXk86_R_eBWrm

[slate sorrel]

They truly have

[plucky tide]

Small price to pay for preventing the other water voice trick

[slate sorrel]

I forgot about that you're right

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnA__bl4Bog new soundsmith tf2

[fathom stag]

The fact that Pablo.gonzales.2007 is now legally an adult scares me

[digital cobalt]

I say that this is a fantastic development.
Pablo.gonzales.2007 is the type of person that this world needs.

[quasi coral]

holy shit

[slate sorrel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMLTttYW5g0&t=0s

How it feels to play medic

[quasi coral]

team service announcment 21

[fathom stag]

Soldier Jumpscare

[thorny garden]

laugh emote
explode

classic

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

[quasi coral]

[vagrant sparrow]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjFElehZeMQ
Guys I found a funny strat

[fathom stag]

HOLY FUCK

[gloomy chasm]

stonks

frying pan killstreak too, noice

[brazen cargo]

AMAZING find. i have one on my aussie minigun

[fathom stag]

becoming the dispenser

[slate sorrel]

Scout was so tired for asking about dispensers, so he became one instead

[quasi coral]

standing my ground against an ubered solider

[brazen cargo]

Heavyman

[slate sorrel]

P-

Accurate reaction to a direct hit soldier

[fathom stag]

Direct Hit is only effective if the soldier is competent

This is why I always run Panic Attack when I run DH Soldier in pubs

Ran out of skill? Eat shotgun maggot

[gloomy chasm]

even if i'm not accurate, the name is

holy fucking moly

i think it's a tad better than this

[fathom stag]

I shat my pants

[thorny garden]

average MvM experience

[plucky tide]

Gray Mann's bots are too evolved

they're camping teleporters now

[quasi coral]

new soundsmith tf2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_W6fgQ4B8o

[fathom stag]

HOLY BINGUS

(someone in the same lobby got a ProKS Rocket Launcher kit that's worth double the aussie ;)

[brazen cargo]

WOW

TURBO good find

i'd love one, i've been playing demoman more lately

[gloomy chasm]

I love GOOOOOOOOLD

[fathom stag]

holy fuck what is my luck

GOLD GOLD GOLD

[gloomy chasm]

YOOOO

SOLEM VOW KILLSTREAK KIT

[fathom stag]

I might sell this ngl, I don’t ever use the Frontier Justice

[gloomy chasm]

i didn't even name it after the song but i had to keep it

[brazen cargo]

holy SHITE

hard gun to use but damn, you're a lucky sunuvagun.

[plucky tide]

Paid my respects at the Rick May statue. Can't believe it's been 5 years already

[gloomy chasm]

SUPLEX A YETI IN HIS HONOR, MAGGOTS!

I'MMA FUCKIN' SEND SOME ROBOTS TO HELL IN HIS HONOR

[quasi coral]

casually played some tf2 today and this totally caught me off guard

it's cool to see the statues in (virtual)reality again

[gloomy chasm]

NEW ANKLE DANKLE https://youtu.be/5STKqGkvUPk

[thorny garden]

I love chasing spies

I love chasing spies and then suddenly stopping and stepping backwards and seeing them as they tried to trickshot me on a staircase and the awkward silence that follows as they just stare at me

[marsh sinew]

it's surprisingly effective to play spy just to annoy the enemy team and make them waste their time

use your revolver to aggro the other team, pick off enemies with low HP and so on

it works best once you get the enemy to really have a dent against you and make them forget about their objective

[gloomy chasm]

I like using the YER to fuck with people

also great for dealing with engi nests

[thorny garden]

https://youtube.com/shorts/oByyMOi21Cc?si=xtpgvSFKCFO-BdGo

True Spy activities

[gloomy chasm]

random crits a congaing solly without realising
suicide bind because i thought he'd live and the bit would be randomly hitting the dude then suiciding
comedi

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JE-VLFPKvY new soundsmith tf2

[gloomy chasm]

babe new Solarlight dropped https://youtu.be/sCevnEZ-2go

nearly 4 hours

[gloomy chasm]

me: "i'm going to play this Casual map as demoknight because SolarLight"
also me:

to my credit... after i rolled them round 1 they went with a heavy/medic and Gunslinger so i didn't have much choice if i wanted to like... you know, be effective

my fucking DH game is trash tho

[marsh sinew]

I saw someone with a Soundsmith tshirt a few weeks ago

[marsh sinew]

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2025/04/pass-fortress-turns-tf2-into-a-competitive-basketball-like-and-its-coming-to-steam/

[brazen cargo]

Pass time but its its own mod? Weird, thought it was a mode that saw very few players.

[gloomy chasm]

context, i captured the point and did a FaN jump at 4hp

[gloomy chasm]

shoutout to the person who bitched me out for using Natascha.
like oh no, i used a weapon in a video game :(((((

[marsh sinew]

this is almost the Family Guy death pose

[fathom stag]

fuck off

[brazen cargo]

ill take it off your hands

as a scout player, i would put it to great use :)

[fathom stag]

That's like the 3rd aussie in the last 10 tours

The funny part is that this is the 2nd Aussie FaN I've gotten

I might just sell the FaN and Frontier Justice and get something else

The thing is that the only thing I would really want that I don't already own is like the Rocket Launcher and that's more than both are worth

[plucky tide]

I don't think I should ever play for Australiums

my luck is terrible when it comes to videogames lmao

my first australium would probably be something worthless like the pomson (ik it's not a real australium) lol

[thorny garden]

I still got a couple more tickets to complete another tour or two I think I should probably try my luck and play some tours for a couple hours to see if I get anything good

They're old tickets from way back in the day so I'm not really wasting any money, really it's a plus either way

[quasi coral]

I would enjoy to play whatever tour with you, MvM is so fun

[thorny garden]

I mean sure I'm kinda bad at setting things up because I just do things sporadically but I guess I could save the tickets for that

you'd probably have to put up with south american connection though

and like zero communication because it's mostly brazilians

I get paired with some english speakers some times but not every time

[marsh sinew]

I have yet to play a single tour

[gloomy chasm]

why do io do this to myself

though i did learn that a disguised spy can cap if they're disguised as their own team

[marsh sinew]

yeah, it's handy at times

[gloomy chasm]

also don't ask me why i named it SIMP

like
genuinely, i don't know why
flash of inspiration or something

[quasi coral]

according to my two cities badge, I have gone through 31 tours

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/bH_pOsa_NyE?si=xtB_sU4mkF5-zK3x

this is so demented

I was actually pretty into it and was really interested and fascinated but then about halfway through I started getting worried, and then the headless horseman appeared

I need to watch Great Blue's video now, apparently people really like his remade 2fort

I'll say though I don't know the first thing that goes into how to make a well designed map for a fps game

[slate sorrel]

I kinda just don't like the idea of "fixing" maps in the way Blue and a few other people talk about. I like how 2fort is. It's not designed very well, but the atmosphere of it being a fort, which is hard to get into, is its big selling point for me.

Would work as a good list of alt maps which pop up, but as a replacement to "fix" the map (which is what fixing really implies), I'd prefer the original.

[thorny garden]

I don't really think that's the implication at all I really don't think that these types of exercises are made with the intent to want to replace the map with their own version, it's all just an exercise in game/level design and that's really it

The map fitting the idea of a fort is good and all but it's all kinda pointless to me if ultimately the entire map ends up feeling bad to play in which for a lot of players it does, I'm sure even the people that designed the map would probably completely change it if they were given the chance to do it again

[slate sorrel]

I just have an issue with the wording a lot of people make with this. I'm not opposed to someone fixing up some of the issues and making discussion on map design, but a thought experiment on the premise of "fixing" someone else's creation just never sat right with me in concept.

If there was more nuance in the wording which makes it sound a bit better, I'd have more enjoyment with the idea. But otherwise, it's just another custom map to me; only with a bit more of a guise that the creator touts that it's "objectively better" than the original, which again, doesn't sit right with me.

In my own opinion of 2fort, I like the map, I think it's quite well designed in regards to detail more than function; I appreciate how much of a historic map it is, and I think the devs did a pretty decent job at making a source engine 2fort

That being said however, I do have my own gripes with 2fort... mainly that the TFC 2fort was built with a lot more src engine in mind, which causes the source map to experience some hiccups.

The only thing I'd personally really do, is to make like, an official retro TFC 2fort map, where they could add some more intricate stuff.
(And this would be like an actual alt-map which adds a different experience. Not like 2fort invasion, which is 2fort but with pumpkin bombs and an alien theme.)

[marsh sinew]

2fort is like cs_office, people like it because of jank

[gloomy chasm]

join server
see someone immediately say "fucking bodyshotter"
switches to Sydney Sleeper sniper

I'm not one to care about Strange parts outside the core number, so yeet

ohhhh i just found something much more obnoxious, hehehe~

pov you got bodyshot by a sleeper

[marsh sinew]

I like the sleeper in mvm because I don't have heatmaker

[gloomy chasm]

why do i do this tho

proks sleeper

[gloomy chasm]

finally finished a MvM tour

Got a KS Hitman kit along with this fabricator so i decided to give my wrench a nice sheen

[gloomy chasm]

ah oops. not even my intention, was just trying a new hit/killsound combo

also for some reason someone called "Mexican SUper Meth" is joining my server, somehow

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/zJ6Tjh_FIAk?si=gCY98Ed2F853yIfP

[slate sorrel]

Mfw I take a healthkit from the friendly medic by accident, do this taunt, and killbind

[trail shuttle]

https://youtube.com/watch?v=T43ql54EwTk&si=9l-R8o8ggDs89Cs5

Somebody make this into a mod oh my god

To play when the game loads

[slate sorrel]

Amazing

[gloomy chasm]

too boomer for this meme

[quasi coral]

this is hitting a very specific point in my life before I cut my cable for the internet

[thorny garden]

It makes me unreasonably happy to see fan content like that still made for TF2 even today, it reminds me of the golden age of TF2 and MLP on the internet back in like 2013-2014, it makes me think that the party may be over but people still care

[fringe topaz]

https://youtu.be/59n1Ui5Ugwo?si=znDfiEwOKw5Exeep

[gloomy chasm]

this is the best skin of all time

the fuckin' scope is covered in blood

[fringe topaz]

i can feel the my little pony radiating from this

[marsh sinew]

funny, I was watching shounic's video on his 2fort redesign minutes ago

I thought it was 100% serious but after reading the comments, it's clear most of the suggestions were trolling...

[gloomy chasm]

yeah this is
yea it's 2fort

[gloomy chasm]

great blue made a video on fixing 2fort that actually fixes it

[marsh sinew]

yeah that seems to be more like it 😛

[thorny garden]

Silenced no longer

[gloomy chasm]

yayyy now we have more toxicity in chat again...

[marsh sinew]

I bought a map stamp just to get premium status during covid, so I could use chat and call for a medic

it cost me €5 because that's the minimum amount you can top up the Steam wallet with

but considering how much time I spent on TF2, it's fair

you get a hat that's better than the party hat with the map stamp too 😛

[gloomy chasm]

there's certainly a lot more people talking now

whether that's good or bad depends on who's talking

[gloomy chasm]

kills a Scorch Shot pyro once
gets called slurs

y'all really happy to have chat back?

then again
if i got bodyshot by someone with a ProKS Sleeper called "Piss Bandit" I'd probably be mad too

[gloomy chasm]

Using map command by default will no longer create a join-able game
ah.

[marsh sinew]

does TF2 use Steam networking for automatic port forwarding like Half-Life does since its 25th anniversary update?

I suppose it can be an issue for those on IPv6 without a firewall on their router/PC

[gloomy chasm]

The "Use Steam Networking" checkbox has been replaced with a dropdown, allowing the creation of Local, Friends Only, Unlisted and Listed servers -- defaulting to Unlisted

[marsh sinew]

oh, nice

[gloomy chasm]

so i guess Not Anymore, LMAO

[gloomy chasm]

going back to my Kooshie drip for 5/14

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTpLbq8Q_bU new sound smith tf2

[brazen cargo]

I want the balaclava and mask for heavy but its so expensive

[plush loom]

I should play more tf2

[marsh sinew]

same, it's been a while since I hopped on potato.tf

[brazen cargo]

Played TF2 quite a bit, for a bit recently.

My scout was getting pretty good but somewhere i decided i hated going negative K/D every time i played pvp

[marsh sinew]

community MvM is where it's at, I find 😛

I've played a lot of PvP so it feels a bit stale at this point

[brazen cargo]

I play MVM in a 20 player MVM server hosted by lazypurple, its either hell or its so easy i just sit around and watch the carnage

[gloomy chasm]

me trying to do the last map of my Two Cities tour

[marsh sinew]

if it's easy, it gives you the opportunity to try non-meta loadouts

try Scout with fully upgraded pocket pistol 😛

[brazen cargo]

Ive done combat engineer with fully upgraded pistol before, its fun

Same with huntsman-SMG sniper, and fat scout

[gloomy chasm]

fuck i just can't get it together

[gloomy chasm]

https://youtu.be/re8wKD9sqJ0

[gloomy chasm]

i am going to commit a crime

at least i got recgonised :3

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/R3BdNZAqAt8?si=Lq22avbZEPB2FEIi

Oh god

stuff might be happening

[quasi coral]

tyler has been saying this for over a decade

[thorny garden]

Yes and there's been a slew of rumors regarding valve stuff for years now, but the actual facts of this one are pretty convincing, still it's important to remember it only might be a thing because even if this is a new project they're working on it's not guaranteed it has anything to do with Team Fortress or if it does that it will actually see the light of day

all we know for sure is they're definitely working on something codenamed TF, it's far enough into development they felt the need to categorize it in the engine so they can make changes to it, and it's definitely not a port because otherwise it'd be specified

that's pretty much all we know is actually happening

[gloomy chasm]

[gloomy chasm]

true aura, lmao

gets bodyshot once
leaves

[gloomy chasm]

yeah i figured i should give this a festivizer idk

it's a festive weapon, it makes sense

[gloomy chasm]

upgraded my cannon

[gloomy chasm]

https://youtu.be/dTB4BtM9We4

[hexed drum]

Cybershell taking an edible sponsorship is extremely based

[gloomy chasm]

and then blaming his high sociopath score on the gummies

holy shit that bug works

imagine this bug with this mod, lmao https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVmzFAv1IYE

[gloomy chasm]

i had to

also fun fact: While the Apoco-fists are meant to gib on critical or mini crit kill, you can't trigger the effect with the tauntkill

UNLESS you're using the Steak Sandvich

[brazen cargo]

Pooti- POW

[plush loom]

Ded

[thorny garden]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-tf2-finger-gif-10081374682332232700

immediately running off the cliff is a power move

it asserts dominance

[hexed drum]

this gif is absolutely insane lmao

[thorny garden]

the gif is what you see moments before you die when you're 20 hp and the 120 hp scout in front of you picks up the health kit

[plush loom]

This is some shit I would do😭

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/TYSy9myRQv8?si=JZ2qZsDKlF3sEjCQ

[brazen cargo]

oh fuck i like this idea already

[plucky tide]

I was already curious about this mod idea

but then I saw on the steampage two things:

1. It reads your TF2 inventory so you can use your real items in the campaigns.
2. "Half-Life 2 and other Source campaigns"

[gloomy chasm]

finally
i can use my piss rifle for good

[marsh sinew]

Day of Fortress let's goooo

[thorny garden]

https://youtu.be/cI7Nb4JrBg8?si=xsZBQPyryohG1fni

I love going down to the comment section and finding people reminiscing and telling cool stories about servers they used to be in or even the actual map makers going to the comments and just saying ''hey nice that's my map!'' and what not
such a nice demonstration of the creativity and the sense of community online games can foster when a game hooks people so much like this

it's just a little sad that one of the few ways these types of things get any attention now is by 'exploring' them like you would an old long abandoned building, but I guess time marches on and it waits for no one

[quasi coral]

I wish some of the servers I used to play on in the early 2010s era were still around

[marsh sinew]

I spent a lot of time on a French server with only Minecraft-themed maps

this was in late 2013

[brazen cargo]

I frequented an achievement server called Golden Machine Gun for about 2 years? Started sometime just before meet the medic came out

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzHfTshkVS0 new sound smith tf2

[quasi coral]

MvM is getting an update

https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=247188

[thorny garden]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-tf2-walking-mann-vs-machine-gif-20491367

it's time

[gloomy chasm]

PLEASE FIX THE DROPS
I HAVEN'T GOTTEN AN AUSSIE

[brazen cargo]

Valve aint gonna do anything

Frontline didnt go anywhere, and the last couple of "updates" were just map sets

[marsh sinew]

SOURCE 2 CONF-- oh no, not that, but still pretty cool to see

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxO22z1-Kp8 new uncle dane tf2

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXwEMqE_qs0 new soundsmith tf2

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6n9EI_g3FsA new uncle dane

[thorny garden]

https://youtube.com/shorts/C-qyEfwRgBY?si=VV_fAWz8rwFQr_80

Exhibit A of TF2 players being a hive mind

[quasi coral]

I'm the spy in that video

[thorny garden]

Terry (Bogard)?

[quasi coral]

lol, no, I'm just saying I would be the spy in this video, I do think like this when playing tf2

[thorny garden]

oh pff

I don't have any taunts because I never really opened crates, I only bought a couple of hats directly from a store a couple times years ago now, which thinking back probably wasn't very safe lucky I never had trouble with that

[gloomy chasm]

me

[fathom stag]

All TF2 players share 1 brain cell

[gloomy chasm]

https://youtu.be/K_HxWX3OXlw

BABE WAKE UP RTGAME RETURNED TO TF2

[slate sorrel]

Return of the king

[gloomy chasm]

Spiffing Brit trying to do the Alt + F4 joke not realising it doesn't work anymore

now if you type quit smoking in the console-

man these people not known for playing TF2 are bad at TF2

[thorny garden]

now all we need is Jerma deciding to hop back into TF2

[slate sorrel]

https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxYf6PWlArg0dCz7Hs72a6bBTW-x-nVM2B?si=EupY61X5WRbWsl74

[quasi coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfwjWFPY21E new uncle dane tf2

[marsh sinew]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/3545060/Team_Fortress_2_Classic/
anyone joining in the playtest from October 13th to 27th?

Steam

Team Fortress 2 Classic

Team Fortress 2 Classic is a mod for Team Fortress 2 that re-imagines the early post-launch era — circa 2008 to 2009 — of the original game. Starting from there, we've added quality-of-life features, remade and reworked scrapped content, and built onto it with full-size updates in homage to TF2's timeless style and tone.

NEW-OLD FEATUR…

Release Date

2025

▶ Play video

[quasi coral]

I might

[thorny garden]

https://youtube.com/shorts/pveFUrQADYo?si=2K-i2OaIHOpXmDZT

TF2 is now old enough to the point that people are making a 'classic' version of it

https://tenor.com/view/metal-gear-solid4-mgs4-solid-snake-old-snake-becoming-old-gif-24179307

this game is currently older than TF Classic was when I started playing back in 2013

[gloomy chasm]

SCREAM FORTRESS IS HERE

SCREAM FORTRESS IS HERE

🔔 🗣️

[marsh sinew]

I checked the blog and there's nothing

does it have MvM stuff?

[brazen cargo]

the cosmetics and new maps came out today

[thorny garden]

https://youtube.com/shorts/g1iY3-ZYYwg?si=pTLB422uldU57MkH

[trail shuttle]

https://youtu.be/zcX7Mq58QNo?si=bPlvhWHbpBRDGjQW

[gloomy chasm]

lmao the insta switch to Heavy

[trail shuttle]

Heavy Knife guy 🤣

[trail shuttle]

https://youtu.be/Ge3FKfDi4v8?si=wBV-7N9HsCStRXI5

[marsh sinew]

it's always funny when you see yourself in TF2

[thorny garden]

That's my secret, I barely have any cosmetics so everyone looks like me!

[trail shuttle]

https://youtu.be/oZGwISD8fdQ?si=LqTWJja-cosA8-7y

[gloomy chasm]

new smithslop https://youtu.be/tOpe2XPpUew

plus next Mann's Guide might be Panic Attack

[trail shuttle]

https://youtu.be/tbCMda1wJPU?si=xBj4ibblgK0LshAS

[gloomy chasm]

https://youtu.be/3e6DoFapHLw new smithsound

also the fucking Death Note parody at the start

i need it

[trail shuttle]

https://youtu.be/BnSF6xrEQEw?si=w9ve5MqPbjlwSSvt

[plucky tide]

The irony of using this clip since Spy's one of the 2 only mercs who has canonically dated women lol

[trail shuttle]

Indeed………AND NOW HE’S HERE TO F&@$ US!!!!

[gloomy chasm]

man why did i miss the whole Scream Fortress...

I could have done so much GAMBLING

[slate sorrel]

It's the scout's signature look

[gloomy chasm]

now this is what i've been missing!

[quasi coral]

not a phone in sight, just dudes living in moment

[thorny garden]

''they don't know I'm The Spy''

[gloomy chasm]

no that's a box with a moon above it

[marsh sinew]

It could be any of us!

[thorny garden]

I was mostly referencing the ''they don't know I'm x'' meme just because it seemed like everyone else was ignoring the obvious box in the middle there

well, except that Pyro on the right....

[gloomy chasm]

actually naw this video bad

ignore

[plush loom]

Tfw so many tf2 cases, but no keys😔

[gloomy chasm]

tfw so many keys, but no cases

(The regular Mann Co Store keys, for context)

[gloomy chasm]

fucking with the Cow Mangler
use charge shot for The Meme
nail an invisible spy and send them to the shadow realm

[marsh sinew]

I did almost 70k damage with a Pomson engineer build in MvM yesterday

it helped that the map had custom upgrades for it, like doubled damage, doubled projectile speed and doubled bleed damage

you're supposed to build a sentry (that's actually a soldier robot that can move around), but this is more fun and maybe more effective 😛

[gloomy chasm]

flarepunch a trollder
Mourning Merc

is this bullying?

we lost because

casual shitters

did get a free Dogfighter tho