this poster is so awesome
#Upcoming Marvel
nova hull
austere mason
a lot of the posters from today are edited from a bunch of different pictures like a collage and especially the ones from Marvel can look really really jank and awkward, because it's very likely a bunch of different pieces put together
It's a shame because a good poster can really sell you on a movie
It is funny though how 3PO and R2 are always just kinda hanging out 
nova hull
yeah that's the original poster for Star Wars
feral umbra
ah, here
nova hull
yeah
i can never decide which one i like more because i like the other one a lot too
but the original is so iconic
plain copper
which one is the OG original?
nova hull
this one
austere mason
Luke making sure to show off his manly man's chest and Leia of course wearing sexy-space-lady queen outfit, good times good times
austere mason
Maybe it's because I just watched the movies very recently but counting Dune that's two epic space sci-fi dramas that have its origins on and focuses heavily on a deserted sand planet
not as much on the OT granted but man does Tatooine come up so much in later material 
potent ember
oh yeah, Star Wars borrowed a lot more from Dune than just the desert planet
kindred trench
This one is so iconic that sci-fi and space operas still honor it to this day. Star Wars was the progenitor to so many modern sci-fi tropes.
plain wyvern
Star Wars helped break the public perception of sci-fi. Up to then, it was either slop meant to keep kids entertained, or super-serious "makes you think" stuff for adults. SW was the first time public opinion shifted towards "this can be fun for everybody".
strong robin
good bye What If... ? Another show with a just okay ending
kindred trench
Oh, it ended?
Huh.
potent ember
oh right, I watched S2 and then forgot there was an S3 coming
strong robin
yeah
potent ember
hopefully that'll be one of the good ones, they certainly know how to make a Daredevil show good at this point
looks like the title is just a title and there's minimal relation to the BA comic, which is fine, especially in MCU continuity
kindred trench
yyyyooooooOOOOOOOOO
https://youtu.be/7xALolZzhSM?si=384L55pc5lFUaaVY
Finally. I'll watch it when I'm home.
plain wyvern
earnest forum
GALACTUS
First Marvel movie I'm looking forward to in 2 years, let's hope they deliver
plain wyvern
The designs look good so far, I'm waiting to hear a bit more about the story.
I've never been a fan of the FF, but if it's got a good story I might see it in theaters.
strong robin
wow gandalf's in this?
nova hull
i love those costumes
plain wyvern
Put Ben Grim in the speedos, cowards
earnest forum
Cowards
knotty quail
This looks fantastic
fleet urchin
You know, rewatching this, they didn't actually show Mr. Fantastic stretch.
plain wyvern
Yup. I expect they're holding that reveal for the full trailer, likely a very expensive & difficult effect to make look good.
kindred trench
Haven't seen anyone post this yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUUszE29jS0
plain wyvern
I'm actually really interested in this.
Buncha misfits having to work together to do good against a more powerful bad guy
Slightly annoyed they're not calling John Walker by his superhero name, US Agent.
But I'm always down for Bucky being awesome, and Red Guardian being unhinged.
strong robin
I feel like US Agent is the sort of name that makes sense when not said outloud
kindred trench
I'm...kinda interested? Mainly because it actually feels like they're continuing the story of the Avengers in a way by saying "now that our heroes are gone, who is gonna step up to take their place?", and I think that's a good step in the right direction instead of just throwing random hero team after random hero team at our faces with no actual build up or reasoning behind them.
Plus, it feels more grounded compared to all the cosmic-level threats that we've been seeing lately, and it feels like a return to form.
(I know, that's what was said about Secret Invasion too, but I would like to hope that they've learned their lesson from that disaster.)
potent ember
even post-Endgame, I don't think the MCU has had issues with the concepts of the films/shows, the bad ones all suffered in execution, which mostly can't be judged from a trailer
personally I'm still up for watching everything they put out so I'll be sure to say here if it's an Echo or a Shang-Chi
kindred trench
Lots of people didn't seem to like Echo. Having not seen it yet, what exactly is wrong with it? I don't mind spoilers if it's not possible to talk about it without spoilers.
potent ember
it's not the kind of thing one can give a one sentence concrete answer to, pretty much everything about it is okay to bad; lots of scenes don't seem to serve a purpose or don't go anywhere, some characters' actions keep not really making sense, or having way too obvious plot armor, just so many of those things adding up to not caring about any of it
kindred trench
Fair enough. I imagine it'd get some references in Born Again though, so it might be necessary to watch it.
potent ember
"necessary" is a strong word
kindred trench
Necessary* then
wide fulcrum
Gonna see the new captain america today I heard they have a new captain america
kindred trench
Let us know if it's ass or gas.
kindred trench
First reviews of Brave New World are out. Critics are not happy.
TotalFilm:
Anthony Mackie's Captain America earns his Stars and Stripes in this uneven, un-MCU thriller. Sam Wilson and an always-excellent Harrison Ford drag Brave New World into unfamiliar narrative territory before it eventually succumbs to familiar Marvel failings
IGN:
Captain America: Brave New World feels neither brave, nor all that new, falling short of strong performances from Anthony Mackie, Harrison Ford, and Carl Lumbly.
The Wrap:
“Captain America: Brave New World” was directed by Julius Onah (“Luce”), but like lots of Marvel movies lately, it plays like it was made by a focus group. Everything looks clean, so clean it looks completely fake, and every time a daring choice could be made, the movie backs away from the daring implications. This is a film where the President of the United States literally turns red and tries to publicly murder a Black man, and yet according to “Brave New World,” the real problem is that we weren’t sympathetic enough to the dangerously corrupt rage monster. This film’s steadfast refusal to engage with its own ideas, either by artistic design or corporate mandate, reeks of timidity.
IndieWire:
It’s fitting enough that “Brave New World” is a film about (and malformed by) the pressures of restoring a diminished brand. It’s even more fitting that it’s also a film about the futility of trying to embody an ideal that the world has outgrown. Sam Wilson might find a way to step out of Steve Rogers’ shadow, but there’s still no indication that the MCU ever will.
Currently at 52% on Rotten Tomatoes, and 44 on Metacritic.
plain copper
F
I might see what other reviews pop up, but its looking unlikely i would see this in theatres, at least not any time soon
topaz oriole
TotalFilm:
> Anthony Mackie's Captain America earns his Stars and Stripes in th...
Yikes
wide fulcrum
its better than wolverine and friends but its no spider-man or captain america
topaz oriole
Wolverine and friends😭
plain wyvern
Be curious to see what it was like before the reshoots.
plain wyvern
Supposedly this was the last film shot before Marvel retooled their process to require less rewrites & reshoots. So we'll see how Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four turn out.
nova hull
inchresting
kindred trench
Be curious to see what it was like before the reshoots.
Reportedly it was worse.
topaz oriole
I've lost pretty much all interest in the MCU. It's just been so mediocre lately, and its started to make me not look forward to new marvel movies
Will they ever make a truly great movie ever again, cuz at this rate it doesn't seem like it
strong robin
MCU => Mediocre Cinema for U
kindred trench
Will they ever make a truly great movie ever again, cuz at this rate it doesn't ...
I mean, Deadpool 3 wasn't winning any awards for storytelling, but it was well-made, funny af, and a love letter to older Marvel movies. I'd call that good. Maybe not as good as Guardians 3, but it was still good.
strong robin
Is deadpool 3 even really the mcu though?
kindred trench
I'm still holding out a bit if hope for Fantastic Four, and Thunderbolts* is...well, it doesn't look terrible?
kindred trench
Is deadpool 3 even really the mcu though?
Yes it is.
strong robin
is it, though?
topaz oriole
Guardians 3 was great. Deadpool 3 was decent
kindred trench
It's not "important" to the MCU on its own, but it does set the stage for future X-Men films in the MCU.
Speaking of Deadpool 3, have we heard any news on Blade? Or is it still in development hell?
strong robin
always and forever
topaz oriole
I'm maybe a bit excited for the Fantastic Four, but that's about it. Definitely not excited for Avengers: Doomsday or whatever the fuck it's called
kindred trench
Doomsday, yeah
strong robin
I have it on good authority that should Blade ever get released, it will be carried by one of the horsemen of the apocalypse (They haven't yet gotten internet in hell so all their films are transported by disc)
kindred trench
I'll withhold judgement for Doomsday until I see the trailer. Frankly, from my point of view as a writer, there's no way they can cleanly salvage this mess in time for a big team up movie, let alone two. There's been zero buildup towards either of them, especially since all the buildup they had before was dedicated to a story arc that's now been shitcanned and shooed out the door along with its leading actor. They are scrambling.
strong robin
I kind of wish they'd do a hard reset but I don't think we can
kindred trench
The fans and audiences would riot.
They're attached to these characters, for better or worse
Even the B-listers.
Resetting the universe would kill ALL interest.
strong robin
just cast all the same actors, but in different characters
RDJ plays Captain America now
but I actually meant a hard reset of their schedule and plans
like, if they're going to do doom, they probably should take a break and retool for the build up or something
kindred trench
Ah, okay, that makes more sense
topaz oriole
Agreed
There's been zero buildup or even mentions of Doom, so it just seems kinda out of nowhere to have him suddenly appear
kindred trench
Unfortunately, resetting their schedule and plans would anger all the investors and shareholders who are investing in their current projects (announced or otherwise), which would also kill the MCU but from the other side. Disney and Marvel ultimately do not care about what the fans or audiences think, all they care about is money, profit, and deadlines.
topaz oriole
Maybe they're be mention of him in F4 but idk
Also RDJ does not seem like good casting for Doom
strong robin
it feels weird
it's not like there's not thousands of actors who could've played him
topaz oriole
And Endgame was the perfect exit for RDJ, so it's kinda stupid that they're bringing him back imo
kindred trench
I was interested in it at first, but upon second thought (and third), I've come to the conclusion that it was a poor choice meant solely to try to appeal to nostalgia and "the good old days" of the MCU with Iron Man.
It should've been someone else.
strong robin
Unless Doom IS tony stark
topaz oriole
A Romani actor would've been nice
kindred trench
Unless Doom IS tony stark
The only way this could happen is if it's a Tony Stark from another universe, which would be an interesting twist if not for the fact that it's been called already by soooooooooo many people ahead of time, often as a joke. If Marvel and Disney actually did that there would be so many groans and eye rolls.
strong robin
that's sort of what I'm thinking. He's Stark but from another universe
an evil iron man
topaz oriole
I would be very disappointed
strong robin
it's one of those things where either it means something, and what it means is kind of stupid, or it means nothing and they just wanted to bring RDJ back in hopes that people would love them again
kindred trench
Either way is bad.
topaz oriole
Either way it sucks
strong robin
I suppose the third option is that it's Tony, except it's not Tony Stark but rather a doombot that's pretending to be Tony Stark and it's only revealed late on that it's actually a Doombot
kindred trench
That's even worse, because then they will have wasted that huge reveal for nothing and will have wasted everyone's time and a f*ckton of money.
They made their bed, now they lay in it. No takebacks, no gotchas, this is the plan so they have to stick with it. "Doomsday" indeed, it's literally the one shot they have left.
nova hull
i was kind of excited for First Steps but idk
im a lot more interested in DC these days
kindred trench
Same. Which is surprising, given how the DCEU turned out.
nova hull
Gunn has a lot of good faith from me regarding comic book movies, GotG 1-3 and The Suicide Squad are excellent
plain copper
The suicide squad was pretty fun
nova hull
Gunn at the helm of the main DCU and Reeves at the helm of The Batman's universe gives me lots of hope
kindred trench
Creature Commandos is out and apparently it's fantastic. Plus is has a robot obsessed with killing Nazis. What's not to love?
nova hull
oh right i need to watch that !
i may save it after i see Superman though, i kind of want that to be my first introduction to it
nova hull
Gunn has a lot of good faith from me regarding comic book movies, GotG 1-3 and T...
how the fuck did i forget about Peacemaker
that show is awesome
topaz oriole
Creature Commandos is out and apparently it's *fantastic*. Plus is has a robot o...
I wanna watch Creature Commandos sooooo much
I also want to watch Peacemaker
nova hull
i love Vigilante he's so good
topaz oriole
No max tho, and I don't know how to 🏴☠️
kindred trench
i love Vigilante he's so good
He's like Deadpool if he was young, non-4th-wall-breaking, and incredibly stupid, lol.
(Granted, Deadpool is kinda stupid still, but he's not that stupid, he's just a troll and loves being annoying.)
plain copper
It's like what Colossus said, he's a child, a dangerous child with access to weapons
kindred trench
"It's one of God's best jokes that you can't die!" - Wolverine
feral umbra
I still think the problem is that the pre endgame movies were GOOD setup movies - after the character introduction ones, there was a tangible feeling that something was being built up, or at least you could SEE the connecting threads (the stones). With the multiverse, they're still doing introductions and setups, but it's harder to tell how everything really connects or what it's building up to
plain wyvern
I kind of wish they'd do a hard reset but I don't think we can
It'll be a soft reset after Secret Wars. If they're following the comics at all, that'll be how they merge the various multiverses together and move forward.
plain wyvern
I still think the problem is that the pre endgame movies were GOOD setup movies ...
I think between COVID, the Writer's Guild strike, Majors fucking up his career, and trying to manage the Fox merger, they lost the thread. My impression is that the Multiverse Saga was always meant to bring in the Fox stuff to the MCU, while giving some existing characters more focus, but somewhere along the line they had too many cooks in the kitchen & stuff got confused.
If they can land Fantastic Four, Doomsday, and Secret Wars, they have a new jumping-off point where I fully expect the X-Men will become the new focus, instead of Avengers.
potent ember
saw Captain America: Brave New World
it's okay
it's an interesting one to tear apart because, like a lot of the MCU's weaker movies (e.g. The Marvels was also like this), there are still several specific things I liked, and I believe it had some great ideas and should have been good overall, but needed a lot of changes at the scriptwriting level to make the better ideas fully land; the end result feels like corporate rubber-stamped the first draft and then all the casting and VFX stuff got locked in before they realized what needed improvement
kindred trench
Apparently Brave New World was the last movie that was in the pipeline before Marvel and Disney said they'd focus more on quality control (or something to that effect, I forget the exact wording). We'll see how that holds up with Thunderbolts*.
potent ember
yep, I wanted to get my "just the movie on its own terms" thoughts out before pulling in external speculation stuff
but this does line up perfectly with what we've heard about the pipeline
so I now buy that info significantly more
anyway I think I'm gonna rewatch Winter Soldier
kindred trench
That's what apparently most people did after watching Brave New World, lol
plain copper
Apparently Brave New World was the last movie that was in the pipeline before Ma...
what is this pipeline thing?
kindred trench
As in, movies planned ahead of time. Brave New World was the last one that was hit by the writers' strikes.
Thunderbolts* was put into production after the strike had ended, afaik.
potent ember
movies and TV shows and video games with more than a couple people working on them always have some kind of "pipeline" in the sense that there are a lot of different kinds of work, and some have to come before or after others, so in practice you typically commit to N movies/episodes/etc and then you have several of them at various stages of completion at the same time
the concrete stages for a movie like this would probably be something like scriptwriting, casting, "production"/actually filming actors acting, then VFX and editing
when you hear a big news story about a movie getting "reshoots", and how absurdly expensive that is, it's because it breaks this usual pipeline of how things are done, typically pulling a lot of the relevant people back into it when they ostensibly finished their job months or even years ago
plain copper
ah I see now, yeah that would make sense on why the quality may be subpar
potent ember
yep, by the time the MCU higher-ups agreed these problems were real and worth fixing (assuming that is what happened and it's not just PR), it was probably still better to let the movies "already in the pipeline" finish up as-is and focus on improvements farther in the future
austere mason
it's an interesting one to tear apart because, like a lot of the MCU's weaker mo...
I guess the MCU really was comic-book accurate after all
You have a handful of high quality memorable storylines and then everything inbetween or after is full of unremarkable storylines that are a 6/10 at best
potent ember
to be fair, how many 20+ movie franchises are you aware of that aren't hit or miss?
Bond definitely has its ups and downs
feral umbra
I was curious, and the list is bigger than I thought 
(MCU ties with Anpanman at 35 films on that list)
feral umbra
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filmography_about_Wong_Fei-hung martial arts, apparently
nova hull
oh he's a chinese folk hero
feral umbra
But 123 movies is more than one per year
nova hull
yeah that's insane
feral umbra
Probably not all feature length, I'd guess
fleet urchin
I was curious, and the list is bigger than I thought <:ppenk:681838745611141137>
You know, as much of a Lupin buff that I am, I never actually seen Strange Psychokinetic Strategy.
nova hull
is Lupin the thief guy ?
feral umbra
is Lupin the thief guy ?
nova hull
this means he at least somewhat liked it
if he doesn't like a movie he just posts "saw x today"
plain wyvern
That's a boss move, ngl
potent ember
this isn’t even incoherent lol, he just correctly guessed that a thing happened in a specific show he missed
plain copper
if he doesn't like a movie he just posts "saw x today"
i like the thought of him just tweeting the name of the tenth Saw film whenever he sees a movie he didnt like much
nova hull
man i hope he likes Saw X that movie is awesome
strong robin
allegedly its looking like it'll end up earning less than Antman 3, although its likely that it'll earn a profit given the much smaller budget (if the budget is true, mind you)
kindred trench
Ooooof
That's a bomb in Disney's eyes
They expect every Marvel movie to make at least 4 times its budget before it's considered a true success.
plain copper
If it's not a billion dollars then it's a box office failure
kindred trench
Not a joke, that's actually the truth when it comes to Disney as a whole.
They've fired writers and directors for less.
strong robin
yeah
topaz oriole
Should I watch the Daredevil Netflix series before Born Again?
nova hull
probably
topaz oriole
Alright
potent ember
I dunno if anything in Netflix series is still canon
but I’ll be waiting for BA to finish before watching it so I technically can’t advise on it yet
potent ember
I strongly suspect that’s far more than I’ll end up recommending
kindred trench
I dunno if anything in Netflix series is still canon
Disney and Fiege confirmed that everything in the Netflix shows is still canon. The only show that explicitly isn't canon is The Inhumans, which was so bad that everyone refuses to acknowledge it even existed.
That leaves Agents of SHIELD, Agent Carter, Cloak & Dagger, and The Runaways, all of which are "canon" but not really canon. The higher-ups don't consider them part of the mainline MCU anymore, however since they were part of the MCU at one point, it's safe to consider them all taking place in an alternative timeline where things are mostly the same but with a couple subtle differences. Personally, those differences are so subtle and small that I can simply overlook them to include them all as part of the main canon.
potent ember
gtk, those are all shows I never watched
kindred trench
Tbh, Agent Carter is basically "season zero-one" and "season zero-two" of Agents of SHIELD, since some of its events lead directly into some events in AoS. I'd say if you're going to watch those shows, watch Agent Carter first.
As for Runaways and Cloak & Dagger, they aren't necessary to watch, but they're great shows in general, so I still recommend them. Lots of magic and mystery in them, and ancient conspiracies. Also the Darkhold.
(The same Darkhold as in AoS, actually, so it shares some small continuity there.)
potent ember
Runaways was a top-tier comic, though weirdly I think I might've read it after the show without ever being told to try the show
kindred trench
Idk, I liked Runaways, though it's been a while since I've seen it.
potent ember
I've heard nothing about it either way, so it's very possible it was good but mostly flew under the radar / I just wasn't paying that much attention to Marvel-adjacent properties back then
feral umbra
I think for me they were very 'coming of age' or high school age characters, which I'm generally sick and tired of watching in american media, hence why I skipped those >.>
kindred trench
I mean, they are, but so are the characters from the comics they were based on, iirc.
plain wyvern
Technically the X-Men characters are supposed to be teenagers, but the films always age them up to avoid the whole "putting kids in danger" bit, as well as the romance angles (especially Jean and Wolverine).
strong robin
they're teenagers??? isn't Wolverine like 150 years old???
I guess that's a kind of teenager
potent ember
he's the exception
nova hull
i never knew they were supposed to be teenagers lmao
potent ember
sooooo
originally the whole premise of the X-Men was that Professor Xavier would run around finding these kids with mutant superpowers and offer to teach them at his private school, partially because he could help them control their powers, partially because mutants were subject to a lot of racial discrimination, and partially because mutant powers tended to manifest around puberty so this tended to be a nasty surprise for a lot of teens and families and communities who often reacted poorly to the surprise
(also have we mentioned the whole mutant thing is often a metaphor)
nova hull
yes lol
i guess it is called the "School for Gifted Youngsters", but i guess i always interpreted that as like, young adults
potent ember
Wolverine was one of the few "existing" mutants that Xavier recruited a different way
(I think how exactly depends on continuity, but the one I'm aware of that I can make sound funny is that at the time Wolverine was on a Canadian superteam he wasn't happy with and Xavier's thing seemed more fun )
nova hull
bub
what are some of the most iconic Wolverine storylines/comics ? i liked him a lot in D&W but i feel like i dont know a whole ton about him and would like to read some
potent ember
so that's gonna depend a lot on whether you mean his solo comics or X-Men stuff featuring Wolverine
but either way I haven't read enough to advise
austere mason
Enemy of the State is one I keep hearing brought up when Wolverine is being discussed
I know about this one because Laura gets a sort of inspired arc based on this
oh and Weapon X too, probably
I think because Logan despite his popularity is still part of a team it's hard to recommend one unique story to him because it's like wanting to read on human torch without reading on the fantastic 4 type of deal
I got lucky with Laura because she does have her own runs but even then she still shows up in other comics while being part of a team so even after reading all her runs I still probably missed some parts of her story by not reading other comics she shows up on
nova hull
I think because Logan despite his popularity is still part of a team it's hard t...
yeah that's true
austere mason
speaking of I keep hearing that the current F4 run is fantastic and one of the things that make it so good I keep hearing people talk about is that it's very episodic so you can pretty much jump in anywhere and read a nice fun F4 story and not worry about a larger continuity
So if anyone wants to check that out then there's that
potent ember
but I like the larger continuity
(~half of my favorite Marvel comics were written by Hickman, including his F4 run)
strong robin
i guess it is called the "School for Gifted Youngsters", but i guess i always in...
I guess I thought the xmen were just hanging around the school/house while the younger mutants learned about math or some bullshit
nova hull
yeah that sounds plausible too
i bet being a Mutant would be cool except for the racism and the safehaven being attacked by villains all the time
strong robin
"I'm something of a professor myself, you know" - Logan
"What do you teach? Gym?"
"Pre-Socratic philosophy from the near middle east"
(Logan just uses it as a nap time because he thinks no one is going to show up for it and then someone DOES)
feral umbra
Wolverine was one of the few "existing" mutants that Xavier recruited a differen...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr8tgJPMiBM truly a different method 
plain wyvern
they're teenagers??? isn't Wolverine like 150 years old???
By the time Wolverine showed up, the core team had become young adults. There were several other groups that got recruited over time, but the general concept of "teenage mutants learning to be heroes" is consistent.
kindred trench
Huh. Apparently Daredevil: Born Again has started airing.
topaz oriole
It started airing last week
earnest forum
‘Avengers: Doomsday’ Cast Includes ‘X-Men’ OGs Patrick Stewart, Ian McKellen, James Marsden, Alan Cumming Rebecca Romijn, Kelsey Grammer
Channing Tatum - Gambit
plain copper
and Gi-ant Man
dark dock
Thank you automod for warning us about Wcctnoam, the prolific troll
earnest forum
It's true
plain wyvern
nova hull
THATS SO MANY CHAIRS
plain wyvern
THEY DID THE THING: ||X-Men theme!||
kindred trench
Are we sure this isn't just another rumor? There's a ton of articles that keep saying that all kinds of characters are confirmed and then more come out saying.......uuuuh, never mind, guess that's real.
potent ember
always good to check, but yeah this one seems pretty safe
nova hull
do you guys think Batman will be in this one
potent ember
I'm gonna say no
knotty quail
I am surprised no Spooder
plain wyvern
I think Marvel is about to give up on having to fight with Sony every time they want to use Spider-Man. Tom will likely get one more film as a send-off, and then Sony will reboot the franchise again.
kindred trench
There's a rumored Spider-Man 4 with Tobey Maguire in the works.
plain wyvern
Mhm
strong robin
I can't believe they're bringing in Patrick Stew
kindred trench
I can't believe they're bringing in Patrick Stew
Spongebob is in shambles at the loss of his friend. It is a sad day for Bikini Bottom, and therefore Canada, and therefore the world.
strong robin
one day I shall watch this sponge of bob and learn of its secrets
wide fulcrum
I think Marvel is about to give up on having to fight with Sony every time they ...
I thought he got signed on for 3 more movies
plain wyvern
if that's the case, I missed that news.
strong robin
I think he might have signed and Disney is still like 'what are we going to do here'?
but that's sort of been Disney's energy since Endgame
austere mason
There's a rumored Spider-Man 4 with Tobey Maguire in the works.
Spiderman 4 in the works yes, the Tobey Maguire one???? That seems like a heavy rumor to me, I really doubt either he or even Andrew are gonna come back for any more of that, NWH was kind of a special situation
But also I thought Tom was already confirmed to at least show up in Doomsday
kindred trench
wide fulcrum
wish there were some memes that included his role as Hitch too
though thats probably not widely known 
earnest forum
Wow, yeah I never connected in my mind that all four of these is the same guy
plain wyvern
He's got such an everyman face/attitude he kinda blends in, but he does a great job with the roles.
earnest forum
knotty quail
Wow, yeah I never connected in my mind that all four of these is the same guy
holy fuck
same
even in that image itself, if you tell me is 3 different guys, I would believe
plain wyvern
plain copper
plain wyvern
Apparently it is not based on the infamous comic of that name, but a different story.
plain copper
Good, I don't want Paul on the MCU smh
nova hull
happy birthday to Micheal Rooker, who played Yondu in GotG Vol 1 and 2
feral umbra
wide fulcrum
who is seeing this opening night in 3 weeks?
plain copper
I already pre-ordered
plain wyvern
fleet urchin
He actually streches in this trailer!
knotty quail
this looks fantastic
austere mason
I still find it interesting that they said this movie was gonna be a totally standalone movie where they're the only heroes kinda like all those disconnected standalone comicbook movies from before the MCU started
happy thing 
austere mason
He actually streches in this trailer!
top comment:
For people saying mister fantastic's stretching power is bad cgi. That's not CGI, Pedro can just do that
kindred trench
I still find it interesting that they said this movie was gonna be a totally sta...
It is very much not gonna be standalone. It's almost guaranteed that this movie will introduce Dr. Doom, which will then transition into the rest of the MCU.
plain wyvern
By standalone, I think they mean "not currently tied into the MCU". People can go into this knowing nothing about the rest of the franchises.
austere mason
It is very much not gonna be standalone. It's almost guaranteed that this movie ...
I mean sure but that's gonna be at the very end though probably
kindred trench
Fair
knotty quail
Yeah they def will be teleported or something to the main MCU universe by the end of this movie
but they being introduced in a whole new universe is good af
strong robin
I have to ask; is the F4 standing in the middle of a new york intersection a famous piece of fantastic four art? it's weird that it's come up twice
nova hull
Thunderbolts* seems to be getting good reviews
kindred trench
Finally.
Then again, it was the first movie supposedly written after the strikes and reshoots and reschedules and plan changes.
So hopefully this'll help bring us out of this slump.
plain copper
are the Thunderbolts* named after Thunderbolt Ross
potent ember
in the comics, no, but I haven't seen the movie
kindred trench
I think they are in the movie, but that's why they have the asterisk, because they're likely gonna become the Dark Avengers or some other team from the comics.
feral umbra
Yeesh. Renner says there's no hawkeye season 2, because whoever the penny pinchers are that control the money were offering him half the salary of season 1 for the same or more work
topaz oriole
Thunderbolts* seems to be getting good reviews
Exciting
topaz oriole
Yeesh. Renner says there's no hawkeye season 2, because whoever the penny pinche...
Wtf
wide fulcrum
Its Thunderbolts friday heard this is the first good Marvel movie in 10 years cant wait
Might get a big popcorn?
plain wyvern
Yeah, I really want to see this one in theaters. I've been hyped since the first trailer, because I really enjoy the main team members.
Also, Bucky as team dad is just priceless.
kindred trench
Its Thunderbolts friday heard this is the first good Marvel movie in 10 years ca...
Nah, Guardians 3 was spectacular.
plain wyvern
Nah, Guardians 3 was spectacular.
It's the only Marvel movie that brought me to tears.
wide fulcrum
Whats the funniest movie in the MCU
is it Thor 3
I have to know to compare because Thunderbolts might be the new funniest
nova hull
Thor 3 and the Guardians movies are probably the funniest to me
earnest forum
Yeah
wide fulcrum
Those movies are very funny
Theres a guy called Red Guardian who is like Drax but funnier
earnest forum
How is that possible...
wide fulcrum
Even if this isnt the funniest MCU movie, Red Guardian is the funniest character
topaz oriole
Is the movie good?
wide fulcrum
Yeah the 90% RT score is accurate
wide fulcrum
I think I missed some backstory on a few of the characters from not having seen all the shows though
pretty sure captain america at home is from falcon and the winter soldier..
And I think Im supposed to know the main character Yelena from Black Widow(?)
topaz oriole
Yeah
wide fulcrum
I did NOT pay attention during that movie...
Oh the sister she was talking about was Black Widow??? 
topaz oriole
Yup
earnest forum
Yeah I don't remember anything from that movie aside from some really bad cgi shots
wide fulcrum
I remember they were on a city in the sky..
earnest forum
And how hard they fumbled the release of it in the timeline
nova hull
Theres a guy called Red Guardian who is like Drax but funnier
funnier than Drax ??? damn
plain copper
whats ur fave mcu film
wide fulcrum
Infinity War probably
earnest forum
Those were the good times, and we knew we were in them
plain wyvern
So yeah:
John Walker / US Agent = Falcon & Winter Soldier
Yelena = Black Widow and the Hawkeye show
Red Guardian = Black Widow
Taskmaster = Black Widow
And Bucky is Bucky
wide fulcrum
and Bob
There was a preview of Superman that was just an uncut 6 minute scene from the movie so I started thinking we had gone to the wrong showing..
nova hull
im so excited for Superman
topaz oriole
Same
earnest forum
Damn, they cooked with this one
Really liked the big guys power, super creepy
And the emotional theme is well done and executed
feral umbra
Just came back from watching it: indeed, very good
kindred trench
I'm stupid, I at first thought a new IT movie came out called "IT: Indeed".
feral umbra
That would be terrifying 😨
feral umbra
(belatedly, that after-credits scene 
)
wide fulcrum
I know right? ||The Avengerz!!!||
topaz oriole
Just got back from Thunderbolts*, and it's probably one of my favorite Marvel movies now
It's sooooo fucking good
kindred trench
Yeah, I've heard they finally found their groove again with this one
topaz oriole
They did
kindred trench
Let's hope it continues
topaz oriole
The MCU might be back
kindred trench
Marvel movie is bad: "It's so over!"
Marvel movie is good: "We are so back!"
plain wyvern
If I hadn't thrown my back out, I'd have loved to see that this weekend.
plain copper
damn, sorry to hear. What happened?
plain wyvern
Just random back pain & muscle spasms.
plain wyvern
Mine's in my lower back, but this time it radiated down my left leg, really unpleasant.
earnest forum
The Terminator 2...homage? Is still going through my mind every now and then. Bucky is so effortlessly cool
feral umbra
I was gonna ask what part that was but then remembered
topaz oriole
Yeah that was really good
potent ember
I am pleased to report that "we're so back" is an accurate assessment of the new Thunderbolts* movie 
so glad I wasn't spoiled on ||Sentry/Void|| being in this, couldn't have asked for a better adaptation of that guy
earnest forum
That shit was creepy and disturbing in great ways
plain copper
Now I'm rly thinking of seeing it, must've been a rly fun watch
wide fulcrum
earnest forum
wide fulcrum
thats a fake trailer scene right I dont remember that scene
potent ember
That shit was creepy and disturbing in great ways
I think my favorite part is how, in the comics ||Void is normally depicted as some eldritch abomination that's hijacking the negative parts of Bob's mind||, but this movie version instead goes with ||a maximally human version; just his silhouette, no inhuman body parts or movements, but solid dark with the little pinprick eyes.|| It's so perfect for what this movie is doing.
earnest forum
Real Mob Psycho moment
plain copper
What specific genre is this film mostly?
earnest forum
Real homies know
earnest forum
What specific genre is this film mostly?
Depression
potent ember
uh, superhero action? in a lot of ways it follows the familiar MCU formula with just enough twists (like depression being a key theme) that it feels fresh
earnest forum
We love depression
potent ember
like how the new team banters in exactly the cadance we're used to, but all of the specific jokes, quips and insults they use are ones the Avengers couldn't have used
a good example is the comparisons above between Red Guardian and Drax: RG is usually the comic relief in this team/movie, but Drax's silliness comes from cluelessness and linguistic confusion, while RG's comic moments stem from his overenthusiasm and a sincerity the others aren't (yet?) capable of
earnest forum
like how the new team banters in exactly the cadance we're used to, but all of t...
Did someone call someone else a bitch or do I remember that wrong?
potent ember
I'm not remembering a line with that specific word but it wouldn't surprise me
earnest forum
That wouldn't surprise me
potent ember
yeah it would be from him
topaz oriole
so glad I wasn't spoiled on ||Sentry/Void|| being in this, couldn't have asked f...
I already knew about that due to the trailers, but I have also never even heard of ||Sentry/The Void|| untill I watched the movie
earnest forum
I thought it was one of the female characters to another one which made it more "okay" but maybe I dreamed it
There were a lot of mean things said at some points
wide fulcrum
I already knew about that due to the trailers, but I have also never even heard ...
Hes stronger than all of the Avengers rolled into one
topaz oriole
That movie hit pretty close to home for me with the whole emotional themes
I'm kinda pissed that ||Taskmaster died in the first 30 minutes||
plain copper
from captain Bmerica
US Agent from FatWS?
I haven't seen that show
potent ember
I spent so much of the film expecting ||her to secretly be alive somehow||
yeah, John Walker
topaz oriole
I spent so much of the film expecting ||her to secretly be alive somehow||
Yeah same
plain wyvern
US Agent from FatWS?
I haven't seen that show <:ppenk:681838745611141137>
The show itself is mid, but John Walker/US Agent is actually interesting.
wide fulcrum
||Poor Sam trying to be Captain America without the serum and then the New Avengerz show up with 3 guys with super serum||
earnest forum
They did Sam dirty
potent ember
like a lot of post-Endgame MCU stuff, Falcon and Winter Soldier has parts that I really really like, and other parts that needed some ruthless editing or rewriting to make them interesting
plain wyvern
FatWS had a nice storyline about racism, how we treat the poor & refugees, as well as why people feel they have no choice but to resort to terrorism to survive.
However, the story got kinda gutted by the pandemic and that really hurt it. Apparently it originally had a pandemic storyline running through it, but then COVID hit and Disney got squeamish, so the editing chopped the show to bits.
potent ember
both
earnest forum
And then there's also the strike, don't forget
potent ember
iirc the FatWS refugees were blip victims, the Secret War refugees were displaced skrulls
wide fulcrum
its secret invasion right
earnest forum
That
wide fulcrum
secret war is the sixth avengers movie?
plain copper
Lots of secrecy
earnest forum
Lots of Skrulls
potent ember
I look forward to MCU-only fans making all the same jokes about "Secret" and "War" being in every other title that the comic readers do
earnest forum
lmao that one after credits scene from Quantumania still makes me laugh when I think about it
wide fulcrum
What was Avengers 5 called before they had to drop Kang again
plain copper
Kang Dynasty?
earnest forum
With the millions of Kangs
potent ember
Ixrec — 05/17/2021 8:00 PM
That's fair. I'd never be able to distinguish clearly between Secret Wars (1984), Secret Wars II, Secret War (2004), Secret Invasion and Secret Wars (2015) if I had not read all of those comics myself.
plain copper
What was Avengers 5 called before they had to drop Kang again
Yeah I believe it was Kang Dynasty
potent ember
ok the upcoming MCU film is Avengers: Secret Wars plural, got it
plain copper
Damn, how did noone talk about it
earnest forum
WOW
potent ember
probably because MCU chatter in general was low at the time, and Kang the character was in a death spiral after some meh releases and Disney having to throw out the actor
earnest forum
Wait so apparently the plan is Avengers: Doomsday May next year, and Avengers: Secret Wars in 2027
potent ember
that sounds right
earnest forum
Craaazy
wide fulcrum
yeah theres only one more movie before Doomsday
potent ember
I choose not to memorize the timeline myself since, as we've seen, it keeps changing
earnest forum
Yeah but I doubt RDJ will sexually harrass anyone in the next year
Or whatever Kang did I don't want to remember
plain copper
probably because MCU chatter in general was low at the time, and Kang the charac...
Oh No I meant a joke about how an avengers film would be released 3 days ago and no one mentioned it at all(bc it was cancelled)
potent ember
oh
wide fulcrum
Do you think the sentry will Worf to Dr Doom
earnest forum
Avenger: Doomsday is gonna be competing with 3rd Spiderverse
potent ember
Dr Doom is one of those "with prep time, he usually wins" characters, so it's definitely an option
strong robin
Ixrec spent the past 5 minutes thinking about buying a ticket to see Kang
earnest forum
!increment cancelIxrec
hardy kiteBOT
cancelIxrec is not a counter!
potent ember
Speaking of ||Sentry/Void||, probably the most interesting thing about his comic story that's not in the movie is that ||it wasn't just depression. A related subplot was that most of his personal history turned out to be false memories. I don't think this part of the character landed nearly as well for a few reasons, primarily that reality rewriting was involved so it's unclear if he actually had an additional mental health condition or was just gaslit by certain characters possibly including himself (it got messy), but still interesting.||
plain copper
How powerful is ||Sentry / The Void?||
potent ember
||Pretty much what you saw in the movie. Powerful enough that "you can't punch depression" is also literally true.||
potent ember
||Because comics have more characters with more powers running around, there's often a higher ambient power level everyone has to deal with, so it's made clearer that killing Sentry is basically impossible even for the crazy OP A-list heroes. Whether that's "stronger than the movie" or just more time clarifying is up to interpretation.||
plain copper
||Pretty much what you saw in the movie. Powerful enough that "you can't punch d...
To be clear I haven't seen the movie, tho I did say earlier I am interested in seeing it now, since everyone here has good impressions on it, so I'm rly considering it
I personally don't mind spoilers for this film btw, it's been fun watching the discussions here
potent ember
oh right
plain copper
It's fine tho
I'll probably see if I could see this in theaters soonish
brave whale
(thunderbolt spoiler)
topaz oriole
😭
nova hull
:yea:
feral umbra
Also, interesting marketing they're doing right now
And (spoilery) ||technically speaking, we did get an avengers movie on may 2nd?||
earnest forum
I still can't decided between Bvengers and Avengerz
wide fulcrum
Avengerz is canon
earnest forum
Bvengers too, it was in one of the newspapers in the montage at the end
wide fulcrum
yeah but the team captain called them Avengerz
topaz oriole
Nah, Bucky is team captain
brave whale
Nah, he's a congressman, which is fitting because he's 100+ years old
fleet urchin
I just watched The Thunderbolts*. It was fun enough.
vivid lintel
Just saw Thunderbolts*. ||I also want to hug Bob||
fleet urchin
When he said Bob, I immediately thought of Hydra Bob.
topaz oriole
Same
fleet urchin
But Disney's not cool enough to have Hydra Bob or A.I.M. Bill.
vivid lintel
||Sentry has the same power as Sunset Shimmer but he can only see bad things.||
feral umbra
Also, for Thunderbolts*: ||Isn't Frank Castle in NY? Wouldn't his room be the worst? ||
earnest forum
For the same reason: It's NYC, the best room is || pizza rat's room ||
nova hull
kindred trench
Yoooooo, big screen debut!
Also confirms that he survives the events of Daredevil: Born Again S2 (when it comes).
strong robin
Also confirms that he survives the events of Daredevil: Born Again S2 (when it c...
Or he's died, gone to heaven, but refused entrance due to the whole 'killing' thing, but he makes the case that he's actually a good guy (thanks to some help from Legal Eagle (he's not dead, he's just visiting)), but Peter is still unsure, so he strikes a deal in which the punisher is sent back to earth to help some kid.
The kid isn't Peter Parker but Castle abandons Jeff because Jeff is so boring and goes to haunt Peter instead.
potent ember
or this is somehow heading towards a CGR + Thanos Wins adaptation, which is even sillier than what you said and yet also unironically peak comics
austere mason
Has the MCU done anything that gets to the level of crazyness comics usually do?
People were complaining that they were bringing back RDJ and I'm over here thinking if you're a comicbook character and you haven't died at least once, you're nobody
potent ember
it really depends on how you define craziness
for complexity, convolution and continuity lockout, MCU's not even close to the comics, and that's a good thing
if you mean the range of genres and tropes they'll pull from and mash together, I'd say it's broadly similar, there's just less MCU than comics so of course it feels less crazy even though I think it'd be a fair fight if you picked any subset of comics with the same volume of story as the MCU
the MCU's covered the full sci-fi to fantasy spectrum, introduced the microverse, done time travel, established a stable multiverse of branching timelines, involved aliens from several planets, even got the flerken to work in live action... especially if you include the What-If show, it's definitely on par with comic nonsense in that respect
(granted, you can't do Thanos Wins in the MCU because MCU Thanos is far too different of a character; that's a different problem)
nova hull
it's in Loki !!!!
austere mason
it really depends on how you define craziness
mostly just the crazy comicbook shenanigans, like the characters never really actually dying for example, but I guess some of the usual comicbook-y stuff is fine to not have on a mainstream adaptation of comics
nova hull
austere mason
I guess the usual ''you gotta watch X and Y to understand Z'' is already happening though
austere mason
Booooo it's just a background thing, but I'll take it I guess
plain copper
what episode and when? I havent seen Loki
strong robin
in the background
plain wyvern
what episode and when? I havent seen Loki
It's really worth watching.
feral umbra
Loki is absolutely one of if not the best of the marvel series
strong robin
Loki is really good
Although to be fair, the only other ones are probably Wandavision and Agatha
potent ember
strong robin
I feel like we're just talking about shows
potent ember
possibly, it'd only been the topic for ~2 messages
hopefully Born Again S2 is good so we can add that to the list; S1's a bit too much of a cliffhanger for now
strong robin
Shang-chi I'm kind of just okay one, No Way Home and Far From Home were fun, I never watched moon knight or Deadpool or Thunderbolts, and at this point I probably never will
potent ember
totally fair
I'm probably one of the few people here who's seen almost every MCU show + movie, sometimes just for completionism's sake
strong robin
I used to but I cancelled my disney plus subscription in Janurary and have been resisting the urge to relapse
potent ember
ah, can't argue with that
strong robin
I did bounce off moonknight though, and I never actually saw any of the deadpools besides the first one
The first one was fun but after that I think I wasn't really in the right sort of frame of mind for it
plain wyvern
potent ember
the "Presented In FANTASTIVISION" bit at the end of these trailers always cracks me up
but ok looks this is mostly the ||Galactus|| thing
nova hull
i really hope this is good
austere mason
I guess reading the original F4 comics up until Galactus might be a good idea
potent ember
if you want
what I read of the original F4 run is pretty eh by modern standards, though obviously influential AF so it certainly doesn't hurt to have seen things like the F4's original scrapes with Spidey and Galactus and Black Panther and a million other then-new or nearly new characters
austere mason
Spiderman vs Daredevil too back when he was new, I was thinking of jumping into the original Spidey comics for a while too just to skim through some of the best stories there
potent ember
OG Spider-Man holds up better IMO, I actually read 50+ issues of that before going back to modern stuff
austere mason
Yeah, the fact that those stories are still good definitely helps, I should look into seeing if they ever put those original comics into volumes, I'd love to collect one or two, I always read and absorb things a bit better that way anyway
Luckily for F4 the Galactus thing seems to happen pretty early on so I don't have to read too much of that
oh
Huh
I mean..... sure yeah
apparently that's a new print too
ooooooh yeaaaaah, this is the cover Leonardo Romero did a few years back I remember, so that's what it was gonna be used for
austere mason
OG Spider-Man holds up better IMO, I actually read 50+ issues of that before goi...
For Spidey these new ''classic volumes'' thing only goes up to issue 46 so hey, about the same as you read more or less
kindred trench
Welp, this is an easy way to get me to not watch a review (not that I was going to anyway).
Seriously, anyone who still calls it "M-She-U" is just a sexist right-wing grifter at this point.
potent ember
yeah, sadly it's not a good show, but it's unrelated to anyone's gender; they've had mediocre shows with dudes too
topaz oriole
I thought people were saying it was good
kindred trench
potent ember
to be clear I have watched the full series myself, so I'm not basing this on any random internet hot takes (which have always been a particularly terrible source for long-running franchises like this)
kindred trench
It's apparently the end of Phase 5, so maybe Phase 6 will start off okay with Fantastic Four.
strong robin
we'll see
kindred trench
Yeah, pretty much
strong robin
I know a lot of marvel stans really like fantastic four but I genuinely think they're the only people who do
kindred trench
I have a feeling that Disney is hinging all their hopes for a successful Phase 6 (and the future of the MCU in general) on F4's success.
If it fails, we may see a very sharp decline of the MCU in upcoming years.
potent ember
the term you're looking for is "comic readers"
kindred trench
Maybe some firings too
strong robin
yeah pretty much. According to my sources Disney executives have been gathering under the statue of Walt in the parks performing profane rituals in order to save their own bacon while the frozen elder god of Walt D'iney looks upon
potent ember
the F4 have good comics, but only comics atm
strong robin
(That's what business majors do, right?)
potent ember
but yeah considering all the production information we have access to at the moment, it's hard to avoid pinning all the hopes of phase 6 on whether F4: First Steps is better than just okay
Thunderbolts was a great step in the right direction but they clearly need more than that to get audiences invested again
kindred trench
yeah pretty much. According to my sources Disney executives have been gathering ...
Are these the same sources who reported seeing George Washington and Benjamin Franklin practicing cultic rituals in their basements, or the same ones who say they saw all the modern EU leaders performing Satanic worship in black and red robes in the Colosseum at midnight when the moon is full? I could never truly get all these sources straight.
potent ember
(I look forward to all the First Steps reactions that go "they're totally ripping off the Incredibles" 
)
kindred trench
(I look forward to all the First Steps reactions that go "they're totally rippin...
That'll make my year
strong robin
First of all, this isn't true; they didn't have basements back then but root cellars. And I'll have you know those robes are a very tasteful charcoal and crimson
kindred trench
Charcoal??? Even worse! They're using the ashes of their victims to decorate themselves!
strong robin
it's called recycling
kindred trench
(These are actual conspiracy theories, btw. )
strong robin
considering how poor recycling is, you're not wrong to call it a conspiracy theory
kindred trench
My mom was suuuuuuper into it for a while, still kinda is.
nova hull
Welp, this is an easy way to get me to *not* watch a review (not that I was goin...
Nerdrotic fits into the same category as Critical Drinker and Geeks+Gamers, best to just ignore him lol
kindred trench
Oh I do
potent ember
this is the opposite of ignoring lol
kindred trench
It's just a video that popped up while watching someone play a Batman NES game.
kindred trench
this is the opposite of ignoring lol
Tbh, the current conversation made me forget that I even posted the pic, lol
potent ember
(that's how they get you )
kindred trench
Joker can summon lightning for some reason
They haven't reached Joker yet, but it's apparently a blind playthrough so I'd love to see their reactions to it.
Also, the game is Batman: Return of the Joker.
kindred trench
Ah
nova hull
holy crap these graphics are insane for NES
topaz oriole
feral umbra
This is just an expanded what if episode isn't it 
kindred trench
Ehhhh
plain wyvern
This is just an expanded what if episode isn't it <a:ppinkiepopcorn:608713092452...
Marvel Zombies was originally a fun side comic that was popular enough it became... well, an entire storyline of its own.
Yes, it's a "non canon" story, but it's kind of taken a life of its own in the comics.
fleet urchin
I hope it has Headpool at least.
kindred trench
feral umbra
plain copper
plain wyvern
Heads up, apparently the Doomsday teaser trailer was leaked early
potent ember
imagine if Disney responded to leaks by flooding the internet with relevant AI slop so no one can find the real leak
strong robin
JARVIS Activate Noah's Ark Protocol
plain wyvern
I should say, conatins a massive spoiler.
-# Which has been leaked everywhere already, but
strong robin
that's not a spoiler masque, it's a wind mill. I know they both interact with the air but they're actually different things
potent ember
I guess I won't watch the trailer then because I don't know what you're referring to
strong robin
literally the opening shot 3 seconds in lol
plain wyvern
I guess I won't watch the trailer then because I don't know what you're referrin...
There's an actual windmill in the opening of the teaser. OL was just making a fun joke.
potent ember
I meant the spoiler
plain wyvern
Ahhh.
potent ember
||at least I assume it's not "Doctor Doom's in this one"||
plain copper
||at least I assume it's not "Doctor Doom's in this one"||
it's not that one, no
plain wyvern
Oh shit, they're bringing in ||Damage Control||.
feral umbra
topaz oriole
https://youtu.be/wHuWmjXsReU
This looks fun
feral umbra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH1XlwHQv9o yooooooooo
Though if we keep getting trailers at this rate, we'll get the entire movie before it's out
strong robin
if they had any sense they would've just filmed a bunch of shorts like this that never show up in the main film
of course, with all this marketing it's probably at a 3x multiplier or something
feral umbra
Didn't they do something like that for Infinity war or endgame?
plain wyvern
Gotta say, I'm hyped for what comes after these films. I've always been an X-Men fan, and I have a feeling they're going to be the big focus after Secret Wars.
knotty quail
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH1XlwHQv9o yooooooooo
ok this one looks fire
knotty quail
if they had any sense they would've just filmed a bunch of shorts like this that...
they actually did that for endgame and infinity war
feral umbra
Some folks are saying the vision of death tony saw in age of ultron was in fact for this, not infinity war/endgame. I don't think marvel was planning that far ahead
kindred trench
So, I've been seeing some plot leaks for Doomsday. I am taking them with a grain of salt for now, but if they are true...I may actually go see Doomsday in theaters once it's out, the first Marvel movie I will ever do that for. It sounds insane.
plain wyvern
So, I've been seeing some plot leaks for Doomsday. I am taking them with a grain...
Yeah, Doomsday/Secret Wars will be must-see in theaters.
kindred trench
It's basically the MCU's last stand here. If this movie fails, so does the MCU. It needs to make 1 or 2 billion.
feral umbra
Looks like all the avengers movies have been able to do so. I think they tend to be overall a bigger pull than some of the individual movies
nova hull
holy moly 400 million
feral umbra
Pretty sure the Avatars are costing more
kindred trench
Looks like all the avengers movies have been able to do so. I think they tend to...
Endgame almost made 3 billion, Jesus Christ. Has any movie ever reached that?
nova hull
Avatar 1 is still ahead according to wikipedia
and then here are the highest grossing adjusting for inflation
plain copper
i think Avatar had a re-release at one point, which brought its gross higher up
kindred trench
Hot take: Gone with the Wind is boring, and also just a bad film in general (it glorifies slavery and the Southern States in the American Civil War).
The only thing about it that anyone remembers these days is the line "frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn", and that's basically it.
feral umbra
To be fair, a lot of movies from that era aren't super interesting to our modern brains 
kindred trench
...Okay, so reading up on the film, Gone with the Wind straight-up has the KKK as the "good guys" and downplayed into just being "well-intentioned watch groups" and the Union as the evil and corrupt bandits who rob and pillage and destroy culture and tradition.
This movie is traaaaaash.
topaz oriole
kindred trench
Sooooo back to Marvel
feral umbra
kindred trench
Stacked year
I think I'm most looking forward to Daredevil, Punisher, and Doomsday, though
The others don't really interest me that much. Wonder Man looks like it could be a fun romp, but that's about it.
kindred trench
I mean, that's pretty much all we have to fully represent Doom
topaz oriole
I know, I just think its kinda funny
nova hull
I think I'm most looking forward to Daredevil, Punisher, and Doomsday, though
Spider-Man: Brand New Day and Doomsday for me
austere mason
I wish Ghost Rider had a new movie
I'm glad Punisher and Daredevil were as successful as they were, I kinda wish some other superheroes that are currently not in the spotlight got that same treatment
I would say She-Hulk would be fun but she already had her own show that people didn't like so she's probably not showing up in anything else
potent ember
Gone With the Wind is a well-made movie, especially if you focus on the protagonist over the historical context like I did back when I saw it, but yes it ages exceptionally poorly compared to some of the other old classics like Ben Hur, Best Years of Our Lives, Maltese Falcon, etc whose morals are as (or in some cases arguably more) on-point today
I completely forgot Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man S1 already happened, did anybody watch that?
potent ember
I think I'm most looking forward to Daredevil, Punisher, and Doomsday, though
probably same since sequels and near-sequels are safe bets, but personally I'll be watching most of this
austere mason
I completely forgot Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man S1 already happened, did an...
It was okay, there were a lot of choices people didn't like and discussed a lot, like Peter getting his powers from getting caught in a Dr Strange portal while he was fighting a symbiote, or Norman Osborn being an Iron Man like mentor figure to Peter, both things that are likely huge leftovers from when this show was meant to be a prequel to MCU Spiderman
Oh yeah and they already showed they're adding Spider Gwen into S2 so some people aren't particularly vibing with it
strong robin
that's a whole lot of wut I must say
austere mason
Yep, he even gets his very own Iron Spider suit from Osborn like Tony did except this time it's just called the Oscorp suit, and it's just the Future Foundation suit
austere mason
I almost can't believe that Marvel is genuinely having so much trouble coming up with a single concept for a Blade movie
It's unbelievable how much trouble they're having with this movie it should be the easiest thing in the entire world and they somehow found a way to make it complicated
nova hull
it's about a guy who kills vampires why did they struggle with this so much
plain copper
I guess there really is only going to be one Blade...
feral umbra
Vampires are low stakes compared to what's already been shown?
austere mason
I feel like they legitimately just cannot write a story that doesn't somehow wrap back to the avengers or connect with other stuff in some way
like they genuinely seem so obsessed with doing that that they just can't do like the 2000s Marvel films and just make a movie about a superhero anymore
plain wyvern
I think the problem was that the producer was obsessed with the idea of doing a Blade movie just to set up Blade's replacement. From everything I've read, they kept wanting to do it as a story of his protoge taking over.
feral umbra
kindred trench
I think the problem was that the producer was obsessed with the idea of doing a ...
Which is bullshit.
You don't make a Blade movie to entirely replace Blade. You're only gonna piss the fans off even more, and it's just gonna confuse general audiences. The movie was doomed from the start if that was the plan.
Like, come on, it's BLADE. It's not a hard premise! And Blade himself is fairly recognizable in comic book circles and would make a fantastic addition to the MCU. Why are they having so much trouble with this?
strong robin
I think it could work if they did it as a parody of the idea where the protoge is Daisy Ridley. Maybe she dies in the first few minutes and spents the whole film as a sassy ghost following blade around (please note: I've never watched blade)
plain wyvern
plain wyvern
||Frank Castle!!!||
||"What the hell, Frank, you hit me with a van!"|| 
Also, I am so hyped they're actually doing this storyline
Also, ||Scorpion|| looks so badass
vivid lintel
Weird, saw this trailer on the PlayStation channel
Same trailer but with an ad splash for the Spider-Man game at the end
plain wyvern
Yeah, it's on tons of channels, my YouTube feed is full of them now. 
strong robin
are they doing ||the storyline where spider-man turns into a giant spider||?