Minecraft

[dusty thunder]

I meant a way to display multiple things at once.

[summer scaffold]

these are cool as hell

[dusty thunder]

I'm guessing that it's gonna become imperative that the copper golems be waxed before you start using them, unless you want the statues.

I'm also wondering if the statue block is gonna be random every time it's placed, or if its pose is fixed?

[little rampart]

This is only in bedrock?

[dusty thunder]

For now, yes

[little rampart]

Why

[dusty thunder]

The Java snapshots haven't been coming out yet

Because the Java team is on break for a bit

They'll be back by August.

Meanwhile a few devs on the Bedrock team are still working on whatever small features in the pipeline they have before they move onto the bigger stuff.

More than likely Java will get all of this stuff in its first snapshot.

[flat geode]

Interesting thing is that it's no longer on an experimental toggle on Bedrock

[dusty thunder]

That's just parity with Java, iirc, because these are basically Bedrock snapshots and Java snapshots have always been able to be used anywhere.

[flat geode]

I thought it meant that the update is coming out in that version (1.21.110)

I know Java used a system like that for other updates like 1.19 I think

Yeah, 1.20, 1.21, and 1.21.4

Like how some stuff from that drop was in 1.21.2, but wasn't coming out then/fully developed

[harsh blaze]

Mojang going back on themselves seems to be a recurring theme

“We will not add features that inhibit player creativity”

yet they’ll add shelves to Minecraft

but not vertical slabs or concrete or terracotta slabs

or walls for polished blocks

[flat geode]

They aren't traditional shelves tho

[harsh blaze]

even so they’re still something that would’ve “inhibited player creativity” according to their logic

I’m not against shelves, I’m just annoyed they’ll add new stuff like this, but then continue to neglect the mass amount of walls, slabs, stairs, etc. we need for variants of blocks

[flat geode]

Fair

[dusty thunder]

Yooooooooo

Badass

But yeah, it really is just a vertical slab with a chunk taken out of it, lol. They should just give them to us already.

Oh hey, dyes have new textures:

Apparently it's to give them visual distinction for colorblind people.

They kinda look like blobby crystals/salts now. I think I like it.

[flat geode]

Oh, I forgot to check that

Neato

Tho I'd prefer it without the plate

[summer scaffold]

kneejerk reaction for me is "new thing bad" but i'm sure i'll get used to it

[flat geode]

let the dye fall though my fingers

[dusty thunder]

I actually think it's the plate that ties it together. They look more liquid/goopy now, which makes sense since they are effectively paint in the game.

[mint cypress]

a lot of the dyes in that image look pretty simialir to what we already have
some tho were just circular, so it makes sense to update those to have their own unique look

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, the circular dyes were always the most annoying ones.

[flat geode]

prob the same

[mint cypress]

imo I'd prefer without the plate, but maybe itll take some getting used to

not something to get super worked up over

[harsh blaze]

I like it!

Always used the VanillaTweaks dye distinction pack

[dusty thunder]

Same

I never liked all the circles of the original textures. Felt too plain.

[harsh blaze]

Agreed

[glad gale]

Seems like we're getting an inventory update... they just aren't calling out that yet

[dusty thunder]

I wonder if we're gonna see a whole bunch of additions based on the inventory/GUI survey they sent out a while back.

[flat geode]

I was able to click it and it changed, tho I was in creative at the time

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/WzFH-WiscP4

Oh, that's what power does. It's a hotbar swaper

[novel mica]

have you guys ever seen a river form an 8 shape before

what makes it cooler is its a closed loop cut off the main river network

[dusty thunder]

No, but something this picture just made me realize is how much I want underground rivers, or rivers that flow unbroken through mountains and hills.

[whole python]

That looks incredible!

What's the seed and location, if you don't mind?

[novel mica]

seed is 6113926922955075886
X: 145 Z: 672
the world this is on is actually my main survival world i've been playing on for over a year

also the southern part of it has this incredibly deep canyon

[whole python]

Cool, thanks!
Latest version?

[novel mica]

I generated the world on 1.20 but it should be very similar since terrain generation has not changed mucg since that version

[rich cove]

If you name a copper Golem, let it oxidize and become a statue, and then revive it by scrapping off the oxidation via an axe, it will retain the nametag. That's really cool

[novel mica]

job done

[dusty thunder]

Cozy!

Maybe you can use a bit of mossy cobble in the rock pile for extra detail, as well as a couple cornflowers or poppies for a little extra color to break up all the green? Nothing too extravagant, just some final touches to tie it all together. :)

[timid oyster]

There's mossy under the water!!

For the flowers yes I plan on it but gotta get some first

I'm on a mushroom island so I don't have any here

[dusty thunder]

Way ahead of me I see. :P

[timid oyster]

I'm not entirely sure I like that hallway design

The floor may need something more

The ceiling I'll probably entirely redo

[grave ravine]

out of curiosity, does anyone here play Better than Adventure? I'm thinking about giving it a shot, not sure what servers are recommended

[elfin heart]

what shaders are shown here?

[timid oyster]

Solas I think!

[flat geode]

I've played it before and it's fun, tho I only did single-player. But I can attest to the fact that it is a good experience

[grave ravine]

I assume I need to install Java 8 system-wide for it to work?

it probably doesn't work with anything newer

[flat geode]

I have no clue there, it worked for me first time. I do know I have an older version of Java installed, let me check that

I was running Java 19, but it's prob safer to get one that is made for it

[grave ravine]

getting that version fixed it, yeah

Pear Butter when she sees this option: where's the Manepear texture pack??

[dusty thunder]

[mint cypress]

images taken before disaster

[elfin heart]

Stumbled into a Cave and Found

[mint cypress]

i dont think the cameraman is alive anymore

[dusty thunder]

It's a really good picture, tbh

[mint cypress]

yeah its gonna stalk u forever now
if it kills you, your world gets deleted

[summer path]

hahah yeahhh, very spooky

[novel mica]

pink bridge i made

[summer path]

oooh that looks nice

[dusty thunder]

[novel mica]

also my world just hit day 4000

[dusty thunder]

[elfin heart]

https://old.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1m9vy1t/shelves_banners_waves/ hope this remains unpatched

[flat geode]

Other than the stuff from Bedrock. There's a lot of other stuff

Lightning rods oxidize now? Interesting

Copper Horse Armor, did Bedrock have that?

Debug screen is reworked

Spawn Chunks rework

[flat geode]

Loading bar is a thing

New F3 Menu by default

Did it display over menus before? It also does this for the Escape Menu

oooo, this is neat. You have so many options now

[mint cypress]

nope, pretty sure thats a bug

[flat geode]

I think it's intentional

[mint cypress]

huh

[little rampart]

oh neat!

[dusty thunder]

Those spawn chunk changes are gonna annoy some people, I think.

[grave ravine]

this is likely handy for mod devs to optimize their menus 😛

[dusty thunder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xea1bRpThSo

[little rampart]

did lightning rods not oxidize before?

[mint cypress]

no, they didnt oxidize

[dusty thunder]

Nope, and it always felt a little bit weird that they didn't.

[mint cypress]

also the F3 menu being customizable is huge

[novel mica]

yeah its weird i think they were the only copper thing that didnt oxidise

[timid oyster]

That new f3 is sweeeet

[dusty thunder]

I know for a fact there's gonna be a bunch of stuff I turn off, and only a few things I'll keep on. It's gonna look soooooo much cleaner.

[little rampart]

being able to turn just biome on while exploring would be so nice

[dusty thunder]

I already have that with my minimap so that's not as big of a deal, but it's nice for others who don't use minimaps.

It also puts all those "always show FPS" mods out of business, at least going forward.

[mint cypress]

no way, an update where some modders can finally rest...

[elfin heart]

yeah the only thing betterF3 will have going for it is stuff like changing the order and colour of the menu elements

I’ve used both of those features fairly extensively to help solve mazes, so the vanilla options might not be enough to replace it

[timid oyster]

You're saying only as if it's nothing

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6ME44cBQ5M

[dusty thunder]

Oh.

Okay, I NEED that 80s synth/banjo/digeridoo remix of the Minecraft OST now.

[novel mica]

Level 150 and im almost at adding wither skeletons to my mobs i've killed over a 1000 of

[timid oyster]

Kill 1000 withers

[grave ravine]

when you install CPMA and see a familiar name in the credits 😛

[dusty thunder]

Lol, hi Jeb

[rich cove]

Piglin Brutes will attack copper golems if they open bastion chests

[whole python]

"Congratulations my faithful golem friend, you've gained a promotion! Distraction."

[summer scaffold]

ive been trying to make a water elevator with souls sand but it's not working for some reason

[flat geode]

Are they all source blocks?

Try using kelp and then breaking it

[summer scaffold]

ooooh

thank you

[rich cove]

I need a new build project. Something not grand, but nothing puny either

Currently doing these fellas I found a pic of awhile back

[flat geode]

Everything is copper now

At this rate, the entire world will be made from copper

[mint cypress]

Enchanted Copper Apples?

[harsh blaze]

they oughta change powered rails to be made of copper

If they would make the torches emit colored light, this would be so much better.

[flat geode]

Alas, we will most likely not get colored lighting

[mint cypress]

[dusty thunder]

Oh hell yes.

Me likey

[little rampart]

Fuck yeah copper shit

I'd totally swap my ziggurat lighting to copper lights

It's currently end rods, but only because i have a fuckload of em

[flat geode]

This is from the Minecraft Discord

I'm wondering where the cave is

[dusty thunder]

Wait a sec...what are these?

...That can't be a globe, can it?

[mint cypress]

i thought it was a mob egg

[flat geode]

I think it's that

Maybe?

[dusty thunder]

Yes, I get that, but what exactly are they? One is a mob egg, it looks like, but the other two don't look familiar.

[flat geode]

Middle might be sweet berries

[dusty thunder]

Can't be, it's a different shape and is missing the green bits.

And it doesn't explain the blue and green circle that looks like a globe.

[flat geode]

Oh right, mob eggs don't look like that anymore

[dusty thunder]

Yeah

The one on the right looks like a mob egg

...That sprite does NOT exist as a mob egg in the game...

I just looked it up.

That's an entirely new sprite.

[flat geode]

What is it then?

[dusty thunder]

I have no idea. But none of those sprites match anything in the game, as far as I can tell.

So either it's them doing a troll, or it's a hint.

But that egg texture looks far too polished to be a fake sprite they made for a demonstration.

People on Reddit are saying that it's the frog egg but the color is all wrong.

[flat geode]

I know what it is

[dusty thunder]

Welp

[flat geode]

not sure about the 3rd tho

[dusty thunder]

The third is definitely not a frog egg.

Color ia completely wrong.

[mint cypress]

copper frog

[flat geode]

I don't see anything else it could be tho...

[mint cypress]

no thats def the frog egg

[flat geode]

Yup yup

Don't know how to type them onto the sign tho

[mint cypress]

maybe custom MC emotes?

like, the item icons/sprites can be placed on signs and such

[dusty thunder]

It can't be the frog egg. The color is wrong, and it's not due to lighting. The little bits on the sides are red and not orange, the top is also red,and the middle is dark brown.

The sign is lit up in the picture. It's not a lighting issue. It's a different sprite.

[flat geode]

All the sprites can be checked with F3+S and the closest match is the frog egg

[dusty thunder]

Closest match, perhaps, but it's still not the same.

[mint cypress]

thats odd, the colors match for me (ofc taking the lighting into consideration)
its mostly that the shape is a match that sells it for me

[flat geode]

I think it might just be a texture mistake if it's not the same color, idk why they would recolor the frog egg

and it's not like that in-game in the snapshot I don't think

[mint cypress]

I do think its the lighting

the earth sprite for example is much darker

[flat geode]

Actually

[mint cypress]

but the blue and green are easier to spot (if that makes sense?)

[flat geode]

There is a darker earth sprite

[mint cypress]

oh. which one

[mint cypress]

ah

what about the hearts?

[flat geode]

Don't know about that one there

I don't know how they render these tho

They are smaller than the normal sprites

[dusty thunder]

The hearts look about right for me

In terms of a color match

But the frog egg just doesn't match the egg on the sign.

Shape-wise, maybe.

But not color.

It could just be them practicing again like they did with the blue glow berries, but it'd be a silly mistake to make twice in a row.

[flat geode]

Oh! I did it!

I can type the items

[mint cypress]

its orange color and similair shape, Im certain its the frog egg bc of that. even if the colors arent a match, but I think its bc the frog egg's colors are lighter, so theyre more affected by the lighting (as opposed to the hearts, where the colors used there are darker, so less affected?)

[flat geode]

It might also just be buggy

[mint cypress]

mojang fix bugs challenge (impossible) /s

[flat geode]

Here you go! In it's buggy glory

It works every else tho :(

Glow ink causes z-fighting

[dusty thunder]

[flat geode]

It does support resource packs, that's lovely

[mint cypress]

is that discord

[flat geode]

Nah, it's the pegasi wings item texture for the wings I showed a while back

Which honestly I should prob make it it's own upload

[mint cypress]

ahh, sweet

Toriel was my 2nd guess

[flat geode]

pattern recognition

[flat geode]

apparently, the text needs to be dyed white to show up. It defaults to black

[flat geode]

Somebody at Mojang discovered the word "patina" and they're using it in everything related to this update

[flat geode]

Cod?

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Aquatic

It's on this page, is it like that for anyone else?

[summer scaffold]

on mobile it's not, but that's a really funny bug

[rich cove]

That's a fish, not a bug

[elfin heart]

I didn’t notice, but the snapshot last week removed the mechanic of always-loaded spawn chunks entirely and also optimises entity rendering

[flat geode]

Yeah, some pretty major tech changes. I wonder what the progress on a vibrant visuals release.

[flat geode]

I love ibxtoycat. Even earth is stuck on 1.21

[elfin heart]

if the update numbers were good:
1.21.4 The Garden Awakens <----- when Mojang realises they can fix their numerical mess
1.22 Spring to Life
1.23-1.23.2 Chase the Skies
1.24 Autumn Drop
1.25 Winter Drop

Then next year all updates are 1.26 subversions and it follows year number

or they could pull a Windows 10 / iPhone X and just skip straight to the version number they want I guess

[flat geode]

Still waiting for Bedrock 1.3 and 1.15...

[harsh blaze]

waiting for beta 1.9

[elfin heart]

raspberry pi edition still waiting for survival mode

[flat geode]

That was my first time with Minecraft

I think it only had 2 versions

[elfin heart]

wow, I’ve never heard that

[flat geode]

Yup, built all the essentials. Great Wall of China, McDonalds, Apple Orchard, and the Mall of America

[shut bridge]

CoreProtect finally put out an official release
https://www.patreon.com/posts/coreprotect-v23-136053027

Previous public update was in May of 2024

[little rampart]

maybe they got tired of people bitching

[flat geode]

That is a bit wild, slicedlime...

[flat geode]

Hmmm....

[elfin heart]

what's so Hmmm about this?

[dusty thunder]

I honestly don't know

[flat geode]

It's the Minecart Experiment, normal minecarts don't arc like that

Maybe they are revisiting it in this drop? If they are we could get copper rails

[harsh blaze]

copper rails!!! please!!!

[little rampart]

copper minecarts

copper kettles (bottles)

[mint cypress]

im still holding on hope for enchanted copper apples

[little rampart]

add tin ore and bronze stuff

[dusty thunder]

They still have all those experimental minecart features. I'd love to see those added, just in time for the server's railway expansions.

[harsh blaze]

PLEASE let us connect minecarts

[mint cypress]

pls make it so furnace minecarts arent useless

[harsh blaze]

please make it so they can compete with elytra

[mint cypress]

theyll just make a recipe thats Minecart + Elytra and boom, Elytracart

[flat geode]

Hold up

They villagers are going at different speeds

https://www.youtube.com/post/Ugkx4Hd7Di6ufwRfEc6I3ik4MlJPjHbT5j8m

The rails are blocked by the blocks, maybe new rails?

[harsh blaze]

let’s hope so

I’m just hoping they add a faster rail instead of a low power rail

because having a slow and then a slower powered rail would be stupid as fuck

[flat geode]

That doesn't entirely make sense given how much copper there is. Maybe make gold rails faster and copper rails the same speed as gold is now

[dusty thunder]

There's four different speeds from what I can tell.

[flat geode]

Hmmm....

[dusty thunder]

There's the villager on the left, then the pig, then the villager on the right, and finally the sheep.

[flat geode]

Four is an oddly specific number

[dusty thunder]

With the sheep using the gold powered rails, from what I can see.

Maybe iron powered rails, copper powered rails, and...Idk, lapis powered rails? With gold ones getting a MASSIVE buff?

[flat geode]

Or maybe replace them all with copper and different speeds with different oxidization and they just haven't gotten the texture done yet or hiding it for release

[dusty thunder]

Managed to get a screencap:

Hate the graininess of it

[flat geode]

I would download the gif, but webp

[dusty thunder]

Meh

It does look like there's more stuff in the background but it's too far away to make out any details.

[mint cypress]

so much pink

[dusty thunder]

Either way, I guess this means we're seeing minecart changes next week. Exciting! It means that there's more to the update than just the copper golem.

[harsh blaze]

Computers like multiples of two

[elfin heart]

yeah I was hoping you meant copper rails. They could be faster or as fast as powered rails but slow down as they age perhaps :D

[whole python]

'Send out the track cleaning train!'

[rich cove]

Copper cauldrons

[little rampart]

ziggurat progress

[summer path]

oh wow, that's a big build

looks cool in this biome too

[little rampart]

i'm super happy with how it's turning out

[mint cypress]

How is the wheat supply going?

[elfin heart]

new villager types:

• copperworker, trades for copper items
• copper, replaces iron golems and attacks players that make trading halls

[little rampart]

i've used about half of your donation so far

[flat geode]

I was making the point of copper oxidation levels

[novel mica]

expirementing with strange shaped buildings

[flat geode]

OMG, End Update!

[mint cypress]

ENDERITE IS GOING TO BE REAL

[flat geode]

Shelf change was reverted, thank goodness

[mint cypress]

What was the change?

[flat geode]

They display in the middle again.

Instead of on the bottom

It allows for builders to do a lot more stuff

This and this also happened, but nothing major

Oh wait

That's the drop

But there's what the End Flashes are like

[mint cypress]

I've heard they're supposed to be supernova flashes?

Or something

[flat geode]

Hmmm... there's a sound that plays when it happens and it's labeled under weather

[mint cypress]

What does it sound like

[flat geode]

Like a distant explosion or crash

[novel mica]

i hope they give the end a wood type because currently its the only dimension you cant reasonably survive in without bringing external resources

its also impossible to set your spawn in the end

[flat geode]

This in interesting tho, why would they change this? I din't see a bug that needed to be fixed...

[flat geode]

It is possible with commands and they did recently change it to be possible with commands on Bedrock too.

Tho I don't think every dimension needs to be livable in

[novel mica]

i mean in survival commands are like wizardy you can do anything with them

[flat geode]

Fair, but maybe I could hook up a datapack that adds like an End Spawn Anchor

[novel mica]

ok

[flat geode]

Bedrock also got an end update

[flat geode]

In the subtitles it's listed as "End Flash Runbles"

[dusty thunder]

sighs

Yet another game drop announced. The memes are right, we're never moving past 1.21, lol. It's gonna be 1.21.19384737 before we get to 1.22.

[mint cypress]

are you guys ready for 1.21 2

[dusty thunder]

That's literally this game drop.

With all the new copper stuff

Hell, people were even asking Mojang to add the copper golem for release 1.21.

It's a little late but we got our wish

[mint cypress]

atp we will get GTA6 before 1.22

at least the copper stuff is fun, so Ill take it

[summer scaffold]

what is 1.22 is the fabled End update

[dusty thunder]

If it is, then Mojang gets 10 gold stars from me.

And nobody will complain ever again, depending on how the update goes.

[mint cypress]

Hopefully

[flat geode]

They have to do something bit atp

There's so much build up on a a major update now

[dusty thunder]

Considering that they added the End flashes from VV as a default vanilla feature...

Maybe this is hopium/copium, but they have to be planning something with those. They're making a big deal out of them. They're the first ever instance of dynamic, colored lighting in the game. They have big booming sounds.

Something is coming. Something big. I can feel it.

[mint cypress]

This is our silk song moment

I'm all for being an end update believer

[dusty thunder]

We've been Silkposting about the End Update long before Silksong was even a gleam in Team Cherry's eye.

[mint cypress]

Lmao

Cave update was eventually real, we should have faith

[summer scaffold]

when is mc live again

[flat geode]

I might actually try that

I have some spare editing time

Tho I'm going have to go above and beyond if I'm going to have any chance at getting in

I'm going to try my best and maybe even run it by my contacts at Moajng

[flat geode]

I think October is usually when they have them, but I don't think a date has been announced yet

[grave ravine]

chat drafts sounds interesting, good UX feature

[fleet marlin]

Build a useless bridge

You, reading this

In the middle of nowhere or some grassy field

Not even over a river or pond or something, not even on a patch

Just a big, fancy bridge for literally no reason

[dusty thunder]

I can't, I'm at work.

[fleet marlin]

I didn't say right now

[little rampart]

way ahead of you

i love me some useless bridges

[elfin heart]

the minecraft community is a never ending game of shifting the goalposts 😭

before it was “what happened to fletching table”, it was give us copper golem, before that it was what happened to fireflies, before that it was cave update

a redditor posts an idea for something multiple levels more complicated for a new added feature and people go “Mojang hire this user” lmao

[dusty thunder]

The End Update goalpost never shifted from its spot, lol. Not even after 1.9. People were appeased but not satisfied.

[harsh blaze]

fletching tables do need a use though

[dusty thunder]

They do

It's been years

[harsh blaze]

I will make it eternal night until they give them one

[flat geode]

That doesn't help their working hours...

[harsh blaze]

True

[dusty thunder]

"Work all the night and work all the day; don't get a choice, we don't get a say."

[dusty thunder]

So, it appears that there's some rumblings in the deep about a return for Mindcrack. Not sure if it's a brand new season or if it's a UHC, but Docm77 has been rather shifty lately, Guude has been doing some hinting of his own, and Pyro has been winking at his audience as well. Also, the MindcrackLP handle on Twitter posted a fuzzy picture of 26 names in a Discord call, and the Mindcrack site has a countdown for August 16th.

Something is coming.

Also, there was a word search on a separate but related site, and these were the names that were found:

||Adlington, Arkas, Avidyazen, Baj, Breon, ChosenArchitect, Coestar, ConeDodger, DahlDantill, Darkphan, DireDwarf, Docm77, Elybeatmaker, Guude, HonneyPlay, Mhykol, Mookake, Nebris, OMGchad, Pakratt, PhoenixSC (Hamish), pliSkiNAKE (Drooooo), Pyrao, RichMC, Ryuski, ShadowApples, SilentWisperer, Soccer, VintageBeef||

[flat geode]

OMG, ||they're going to make Phoenix play survival||, all it took was Mindcrack coming back

[fleet marlin]

I had a dream recently that Mojang announced Minecraft II and everyone immediately called it out as a cash grab, including several devs who were mad they were being made to work on it instead of a new update or a new original game
When it came out it sold so poorly it caused a new videogame crash ala E.T.

[elfin heart]

https://youtu.be/ef568d0CrRY has anyone watched this?

[summer path]

I've not seen it, is it a fun video?

[flat geode]

OMG, I'm going to meet slicedlime

He's a guest speaker at a mapmaker meeting

[flat geode]

Those types of videos are quite interesting

People do crazy things in them, which somewhat defeats the purpose, but it does make good content

[novel mica]

im not sure which one i prefer

[flat geode]

I'd say less stairs for me

[elfin heart]

movie length peak fiction if you're down for what it says on the tin

[elfin heart]

oooh that's cool :D

[novel mica]

ok

[last yarrow]

Switch Edition MC is updating, when it finishes, I'm thinking of doing random Speedrun for funsies, find emerald but if I give up I can't return to past seeds

[last yarrow]

I'll do Speedrun later, I wanna have fun rn

[flat geode]

Yup, shows off the color more

[novel mica]

other side

[flat geode]

Can they TP into blocks?

There is no air gaps...

[mint cypress]

no, that shouldnt happen

[novel mica]

what likely happened is it placed the block in location it was standing

probably a bug in its code

[dusty thunder]

It happens sometimes. One time an Enderman did that on the server, and he became completely passive. I was able to look at him without him teleporting around or getting upset.

So I dug him out, stuck him in a boat, brought him home, and named him "Derper-Man". He unfortunately died a few days later due to another glitch, but shortly afterwards someone found a second Enderman who did the same thing, and so Derper-Man II was born. He's still around to this day.

[flat geode]

Odd...

[mint cypress]

also i wanna point out the herobrine eyes

[dusty thunder]

That might be a resource pack thing. Normal Enderman eyes have a purple pixel inside.

[flat geode]

I'm playing an older version before they fixed that

When he looks down, he has normal eyes

[dusty thunder]

Ah, okay

[flat geode]

What?

Legends description?

[mint cypress]

Minecraft's slow evolution to becoming an RPG

[flat geode]

I guess so...

Also Happy Birthday, Dao!

[dusty thunder]

Yup, looks like a glitch to me

Oh yeah, @mint cypress happy birthday!

[mint cypress]

Thanks you two!

[last yarrow]

Happy birthday @mint cypress

Found a geode!!

[mint cypress]

Ty!!

[last yarrow]

Also this texture pack I love

But makes copper and iron too similar to me

[mint cypress]

What's the texture pack ur using?

[last yarrow]

Forgot the name, lemme check

@mint cypress Rainbow Craft was the texture pack name

[flat geode]

IT'S REAL!

What is the server about generally?

[dusty thunder]

Basically a more mature-themed version of Hermitcraft. It was the OG YouTuber SMP, the one that quite literally started it all.

[flat geode]

Mmmm, mkay. I might stick with it. Phoenix and Fundy seem like interesting people to watch

[dusty thunder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkx0MMFavtQ

The world is healing (hopefully it doesn't die again)

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_UF_4gZclI

Is it?

This is about account migration stuffs

[dusty thunder]

First of all, I really really REALLY hate the editing in this video, he keeps skipping a ton of words and it's very obvious.

Second, the "no guns" rule has been in the terms of service for years, I saw it personally and spoke with several developers regarding it years ago.

Unless he has something else, this lawsuit is going nowhere.

[mint cypress]

oh this guy, i saw the other video he made a few moths ago

which was like a simlair thing

[flat geode]

Yeah, some things I don't really agree with

But account related stuff does seem a bit unfair

[dusty thunder]

Look, Mojang isn't perfect, but this is a witch hunt against them. He's describing them all, including the developers, as villains and as a predatory company that gleefully screws everyone it touches, when we know from countless first-hand experiences that that isn't true.

[flat geode]

Oh yeah, the devs are not for fault for this in the slightest

[dusty thunder]

But he's including the developers in this.

In his eyes, every single person in Mojang is at fault

That's why I say that this is a witch hunt.

[flat geode]

SalC1's video is probably a better one to watch, he gets to the main point without the bloat of the stupid stuff

[dusty thunder]

Also, he's skipping past half of what the lawyer is saying, cherry-picking the words.

This is an utterly garbage video

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmsgJPLbxbc

[dusty thunder]

Like, it's litterly "word...word...word word...word...word...word", like that. Each of those breaks stands for an editing skip.

[flat geode]

Yeah, I didn't like his first video either

[mint cypress]

yoo Salc1

[dusty thunder]

The lawyer could be saying something entirely different but because the words are cherry-picked it doesn't mean anything

[flat geode]

I don't know how it's going to go, but it's an interesting update

[mint cypress]

yea i was wondering what was gonna come from the first vid

[dusty thunder]

Also, "give all your data to Microsoft or you won't get what you paid for, that's a threat!", as if 99% of your data wasn't already owned by Microsoft because you had an Xbox account or a Windows computer.

Seriously, this guy's video is just narrative manipulation

[flat geode]

Yeah, Sal's video is much better

[dusty thunder]

The transition to Microsoft accounts went very smoothly, almost nobody had an issue with it, and no accounts were "stolen".

[mint cypress]

they gave a lotta warnings yea
I'd imagine those who stopped playing minecraft and wanted to come back at the worst timing mustve been the worst cases
but otherwise they gave you heads up far ahead of time

[flat geode]

Yeah, I know my dad and my sister lost their accounts during the time, but there was warning.

[dusty thunder]

Also, "Mojang had the balls to call the migration voluntary three times when it wasn't!"

deliberately posts a picture that shows that he's misreading their statements.

They had two migration periods: a voluntary one where you could migrate ahead of time, and then they had the non-voluntary one. The "voluntary" statements were referring to the initial voluntary period where they offered the migration cape. Again, narrative manipulation. This guy isn't very clever.

[flat geode]

This shouldn't affect updates, right?

[dusty thunder]

Also, "millions of people lost their accounts and weren't notified of any of this happening".

They were warned for years. Countless, countless times. Over and over again. None of them paid attention. And then when natural consequences happen, they get upset and say "no fair, we weren't warned"?

Stupidity.

[dusty thunder]

No, it shouldn't. This is all background stuff that will likely be swatted away within a few months. Most people forgot about the initial lawsuit announcement, and the amount they raised was only $140K. That's nothing. There's almost nobody who knows about this, and the ones who do know about it are all bitter, resentful, spiteful people who have nothing better to do but to bitch online about problems that they could've avoided if they had just paid attention. It's a nothingburger. The fireflies were a bigger scandal.

[flat geode]

Is there any merit, despite the narrative manipulation?

[dusty thunder]

And like, again, Mojang isn't perfect. They aren't our "friends" either. But I'm defending them here because this lawsuit and its "evidence" is a joke.

It's made by embittered haters who have long since stopped playing Minecraft after their emperor Notch sold it.

[flat geode]

Minecraft boomers?

[dusty thunder]

Maybe something might come out of it, but I doubt it. The funding they received is peanuts compared to the funding Microsoft and Mojang can throw at their lawyers, and their arguments are very, very weak. The fact is, unless this guy can find something actually worthy of a lawsuit, this is likely gonna get struck down by the courts pretty quickly.

[dusty thunder]

Preeeetty much.

[mint cypress]

Minecraft genwunners

[dusty thunder]

"Minecraft is successful because of all the mods and servers, the base game itself is not all that interesting."

Aaaaand there it is. Told you.

Just bitter people who stopped playing years ago.

[flat geode]

Ah, I see. I only watched Sal's video, which doesn't do all that crap

[dusty thunder]

He uses these to describe "the very things we [as in, the community] depend on to actually enjoy the game" (emphasis not mine, he emphasizes "actually" himself):

So he's saying that we cannot enjoy the game if we don't have at least one of these.

Which is nonsense.

If you're going to do a lawsuit, this isn't how to do it. This is unprofessional and biased af.

[mint cypress]

plenty of ppl enjoy the base game for what it is
even if I personally prefer multiplayer, it seems like hes trying to act like its an objective statement?

[dusty thunder]

He is. He says that it's "just his opinion", but he's talking to an audience that thinks the exact same way as him and who hangs on every word he says.

And, scrolling down the comments, a lot of his audience stopped playing even before the migration.

[mint cypress]

Ive only seen ppl who stick with alpha, or whatever the cutoff is. usualy the worst are like "minecraft was ruined when they added hunger"

luckily Ive never seen someone who claims everything went downhill after notch left, and I dont think i wanna meet someone who stopped playing only bc notch left

[grave ravine]

Mojang is doing a pretty decent work on updating the game in my book, I've seen far worse

most of the iffy things happening are because of Microsoft (e.g. Bedrock monetization practices) rather than Mojang's own motivation

and to be fair, even Microsoft will do good things from time to time, e.g. making Minecraft Java and Bedrock playable at the same time with one purchase

(I wish it was cross-buy between desktop and mobile, but that's a start)

[flat geode]

Yeah, I like Mojang, I think they're doing a pretty good job

[flat geode]

Totally would've been if you and everyone else bought the Windows Phone! /j

[dusty thunder]

Again, he's suing Mojang, not Microsoft. So he's targetting the wrong company.

[grave ravine]

I suppose you can kind of compare this with Ubisoft/Nadeo (Trackmania)

[dusty thunder]

And the people in the comments are like "boy, they're gonna assassinate you for this", "let's burn it all down!", "fuck Mojang!", "fuck Minecraft, it's bad anyway!"

[grave ravine]

Nadeo is owned by Ubisoft but is still fairly independent, they have their own offices and its owner (Hylis) is quite stringent about how it's run

it's the reason why Trackmania, a Ubisoft original (as they like to say), has no microstransactions, but you subscribe buy the game multiple times instead

I'm pretty sure that under different mangement, Trackmania would be MTX-riddled

[elfin heart]

I can’t imagine Agnes waking up every morning with an EVIL grin wondering how she can SCAM minecraft players

[elfin heart]

I think if you purchased the game in the past you should not have to purchase it again just because you missed the migration

[dusty thunder]

I agree, but they are complaining about the wrong thing.

They're saying they didn't get warnings, when in fact they did. They ignored them.

Mojang gave them like two years to sort their shit out. Most companies don't even give you a day.

Yet somehow Mojang is the reincarnation of Satan himself?

The point is, if you're going to go after any company for breach of contract, for shady businesses practices, or for any of these things that Mojang has supposedly done, go after EA. Go after Ubisoft. Go after Nintendo. Go after Sony. Go after fucking Blizzard and Activision. The list is endless. Mojang is practically at the bottom of the list for shadiness. They're one of the few halfway decent companies left.

Again, they aren't perfect. They have done shady shit too. They aren't our friends. But our list of corporate enemies is already staggeringly long, and Mojang is peanuts compared to the rest of them.

[flat geode]

Apparently in an interview that Ulraf did, Copper Golems weren't the focus of the drop

[dusty thunder]

...So...what could it be then?

[flat geode]

It was mainly just adding more copper stuff

Tho it's somewhat hard to know exactly what was said since it wasn't in English

Another thing that was stated is that the End is supposed to be more of a wasteland

[slate parrot]

I don't think I have fast enough RAM, or even enough RAM for Minecraft modpacks, cuz every time I try to load one up it lags heavily, and I already know my RAM is the weakest part of my pc

[flat geode]

Are you allocating extra ram to it at all? Minecraft limits it based on launch arguments

[slate parrot]

Idk how to do that tbh

[flat geode]

In the launcher, go to installations. Then hover over the installation you're using and click the three dots and edit.

Click more options and scroll to the bottom.

Ram allocation should be the first argument

The number before the G is that amount of ram in gigabytes is allocated

This is different for each installation, so be sure to check and change it everytime you use a new one

[slate parrot]

Thanks!

I didn't even know that was a thing that Minecraft did

[grave ravine]

interesting, I thought -Xmx was no longer being used in recent Minecraft versions and Java could use as much RAM as it needed to

-Xms isn't a thing anymore at least as far as I can tell

[flat geode]

Yeah, it isn't there in the default setup

[flat geode]

I decided to open 4 minecraft

Not the worse thing

It's not on fire... I think

[dusty thunder]

...Why would you do that?

[flat geode]

Testing launchers...

[slate parrot]

I was playing the Minecraft Homestead modpack, and wow, I love it

[dusty thunder]

It's kinda funny, one of these days Minecraft is just gonna stop development, and then modders will all just migrate to the final version and it'll be an absolute golden age of modding.

Every server is probably gonna switch from vanilla to modded after that.

SMPs definitely will

Minigame servers might remain the same

[slate parrot]

Also, I can make beer in the Homestead modpack, so its objectively amazing

I don't drink beer irl, I just thought that the fact I could make it in Minecraft was funny

[elfin heart]

tbh the only thing the end needs is two structures: common ruins and the rarest structure in the game

you use archaeology at the ruins and you get items that help you locate the rare structure

[dusty thunder]

I still feel like the End should have more biomes that add new blocks and new landscapes (especially some verticality, I'd love to see islands floating up in the sky instead of all of it being flat), but it can still be a wasteland with all of that. It just depends on how they implement it.

Nullscape, imo, is the ultimate example of End biomes done right. Sure, Better End is fantastic, but it doesn't capture that wasteland feel. Nullscape does that perfectly. https://www.stardustlabs.net/nullscape (Better link with more pictures.)

[elfin heart]

yeah, I agree the end needs verticality definitely

[grave ravine]

verticality is a bit of a double-edged sword, it can make things harder to traverse

[dusty thunder]

Yes it can, but the End desperately needs it. It's too flat, too bland, and too empty. Even Minecraft Dungeons added verticality and made it more fun to traverse.

It doesn't make sense for the End to just be flat platform after flat platform. It's supposed to be a dark, depressing wasteland. Right now it's just floating, flattened blobs of cheese.

[dusty thunder]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1mtme9b/ulraf_a_minecraft_dev_shared_insights_on_the/

An actual End Update confirmed, including new biomes, new blocks, and a new dragon fight! However, no timeline for any of this.

Also, a minecart update is on the way, as well as a mysterious VERY important major update (no hints on what it could be). Minecraft is planned to be supported for 50+ years with a short-term roadmap already planned up to 2028.

[flat geode]

Yeah, that was in the interview

This this a translation?

[dusty thunder]

Also, combat is still being worked on.

[dusty thunder]

Mostly a summary

[flat geode]

Ah ok

[dusty thunder]

Oh wait, there's more stuff in the comments

Including Ulraf himself

Ooooh okay, so scratch what I said above

It was his own musings, not actual confirmation.

[flat geode]

Yeah, that comment is quite helpful

[dusty thunder]

Even so, I would imagine the 50+ years thing is true, as well as the stuff about vibrant visuals and Java servers.

All that is vague enough to avoid any NDAs, and it covers stuff already announced, like Ulraf's comment says.

[flat geode]

Yeah, I mean. There's going to be an End Update and Combat Update at some point. If it's going to be 50+ years, there's going to be one

[dusty thunder]

And I imagine his comments about the End not being super lush or biome-heavy like in some mods (Better End, for example) is also true, as that goes hand in hand with Mojang's rule about the End being a wasteland.

[dusty thunder]

There's also the older Dinnerbone interview that said that once Mojang is satisfied with the content in all three current dimensions, they will consider adding completely new ones with content of their own that go even further than the End.

They're mostly satisfied with the Nether (all that is left is ould be extra additions, rather than necessary overhauls), the Overworld is always gonna be updated no matter what, and the End update is inevitable.

I think/hope that once the End is updated in the same way that the Nether was, Mojang might actually start looking towards a new dimension. We still have the portal structure in the Ancient Cities, after all. That is foreshadowing up the ass.

There's also the leaked MCD: Spicewood images, including an image of the portal structure activated with a gigantic Warden-like creature emerging from it. And all of it was confirmed to be real, afaik.

So clearly Mojang has something planned, and if they do have a roadmap up to 2028 (maybe, maybe not), it's gonna be some big things on the horizon. I am still of the mind that the game drops are being done by a B-team of developers, while all the senior ones like Ulraf, Cojomax, LadyAgnes, Dinnerbone, Jeb, and Kingbdogz (along with all the others) are working on the next major update in the background.

On a completely unrelated note...Minecraft Bedrock really looked at Hytale and said "whatever you can do I can do better" and then became Hytale: https://youtu.be/s3IiifuzjgU?feature=shared

I am almost tempted to get this on Marketplace, because this looks soooooooo good.

I don't even play Bedrock but this might actually make me do it.

Like...this is the kind of Minecraft world I'm trying to recreate in my singleplayer world using datapacks. A world of endless adventure, quests, exploration, treasure, challenges, and wonder.

I really hope I can pull it off.

Sure, it's easier to just install a modpack that does just this, but modpacks are far more unstable, and they don't come with the new features.

[mint cypress]

I might have checked it out but also it may cost minecoins (which can only be obtained by paying for it afaik)

[dusty thunder]

Alright, just looked into that lawsuit thing again, and yeah, it's doomed from the start. The guy apparently went from law firm to law firm and they all laughed at him and told him he didn't have a good case. And the only guy he could actually get to take the case came from an extremely sketchy law firm that seems to specialize in scamming its clients and making off with the money.

On top of that, the whole reason why he's suing Mojang at all isn't because of everyone else, it's because he had invested a shitton of money into his gun server. It seems like it was also gonna have loot boxes and other EULA-breaking stuff in it, and he got butthurt about Mojang shutting him down.

Soooo pretty much how I expected this whole thing to go. Even the Minecraft subreddit, which usually jumps at the chance to see drama unfold and to hold Mojang accountable, thinks that this is a nothingburger and that he doesn't have a case, and that the courts are gonna laugh him out of the room.

[summer scaffold]

ohhhh my lord lmao

[flat geode]

Oh, I forgot about his server

[dusty thunder]

Lol, just dug a little deeper. Apparently one of the people helping Kian to organize this lawsuit is an ex-moderator for r/MinecraftMemes, who has no law experience

Real professional people he has with him on this one

Oh, lol, another tidbit: he bought the gold check mark on Twitter to promote his gun server, which is $1000 per month. And it was all wasted because Mojang put the kibosh on him.

For reference, Hypixel and all the other major servers only use the blue check mark to promote on Twitter, which is only $8 a month. This dude chose to waste his money promoting a server very few people would've joined (most haven't even heard of him) and then decides to make that everyone else's problem. It was never about "justice" for all the EULA changes or the account switching, it's all smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that he's personally pissed at Mojang for making him realize that he wasted thousands of dollars for nothing (if he had just used a blue check mark like anyone else he likely wouldn't have been nearly this upset, but he wanted to be extra).

So yeah, nothingburger in the end. Just one guy trying and failing to be relevant.

[vocal eagle]

he had a get rich quick scheme, and it didn't work, and now he's mad

[novel mica]

my Giant.Underground.Sphere.Project is almost finished

i only have 2 layers left before the top half of it is complete

[dusty thunder]

[elfin heart]

50 year roadmap just makes me laugh

[dusty thunder]

What do you guys think of this? I think it's got some merit.

(From Reddit)

I was thinking the Echo Shard could be kind of like a trap arrow where instead of you hitting an enemy you aim at the ground and then for as long as that arrow lasts on the ground, it acts as a sensor and alerts you to any mobs walking near it, no matter how far you've gone from it. Kinda like an early warning system for when you're caving.

As for the amethyst, maybe it does far less damage than a regular arrow but can pierce through shields?

[flat geode]

How would attracting animals with arrows work?

[whole python]

Shooting arrows where you want them to go as a herding method, I suppose?

It'd make wrangling them easier.

[flat geode]

New panorama

[dusty thunder]

Oh, new snapshot is out?

[flat geode]

Yup, nothing much tho

Tho they did add this

And changed the copper golem hitbox

[dusty thunder]

Optional though, so we won't need it.

[flat geode]

Yeah, just an interesting thing

[dusty thunder]

It makes sense though, it forces new players to read through the rules of the server before they join, if the server turns it on. It won't really weed out a lot of trolls, but it will weed out some bot accounts and also might slow the kids down a bit.

[flat geode]

It doesn't say how it's setup tho...

[grave ravine]

does each server specify its own CoC?

if so, that makes sense to have, like we have on Discord now

previously, rules on servers were just shown in chat or in a bunch of signs at spawn

[flat geode]

Now both the end and fletching table has been updated, everyone can rest /j

[mint cypress]

[dusty thunder]

[high elm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-wO16cvDok

[elfin heart]

oh shoot, the real slicelime ingame?

ggs

[flat geode]

Yup yup, it was amazing

LittleDigiVert?

I remember that name...

I used to play that server

Wait no, a different server

DemocracyCraft

[elfin heart]

I think the only big names I've seen ingame are AntVenom once on hypixel and Antfrost regularly on a smaller server

both have ant in their name.... 🤔

[flat geode]

Neat, he was giving a presentation on Experimental Features on Realms

It was a mapmakers meeting

[elfin heart]

nice nice, must've been super exciting

[high elm]

i can rec the other videos on that channel that dive into the numerous times someone ran a minecraft RP server economy into the ground by accidentally emulating real world events

[elfin heart]

I know that channel because they made a video about the NationStates group that comprised largely of one person's 112 alts

the feature-length video essay format just isn't for me, though. I prefer reading deep dives as text because they're far more concise

[dusty thunder]

He is very correct

Also nice! I one time played with Docm77. :)

Let me dig up the old picture

Oh...do I not have it anymore?

Damn, I don't know how, but I've lost the picture. In any case, I one time played with Docm77, during one of his streams.

I think it may have been on the really old PlayMindcrack server, before it got shut down

[mint cypress]

do you remember what year this was?

[dusty thunder]

I think it was either 2015 or 2016, before 1.13.

[novel mica]

this just seems like an easy way too add rules that people can read immedately when connecting to a server i wonder what anarchy servers will write in they're code of conduct

[flat geode]

It's optional

[dusty thunder]

I found some videos last night that, clickbaity titles aside, actually have some really cool ideas in them for updating old and/or forgotten features with vanilla-friendly mechanics, and the video author doesn't really bash Mojang about it either. They acknowledge that Mojang is doing their best, while also believing that some things can be better. Some I disagree with, but most I actually found myself loving.

Here they are (I'm only embedding the first one since it's four videos): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAhpz0FjvNk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HenjQNVTzo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYRpvjmH6Q8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJJyutHL47M

He and his team even went the extra mile of actually coding all of this stuff into the game and providing proper textures and animations to show how it works in motion.

[flat geode]

Oh yeah, I've seen some of those, they're pretty neat

Heatstroke is pain tho

[dusty thunder]

The savanna biome part of the biome video is genuinely some of the coolest ideas I've ever seen.

Yeah, the heatstroke was one of the ideas I wasn't sold on. I get it, and it'd work great for a "super hard" difficulty mode, but it's not multiplayer-friendly.

The mob vote losers video though...almost every single idea in that one I LOVED. Almost all of them would work in vanilla too. The only one that wouldn't really work is the Glare, since dynamic lighting in vanilla would require a complete rewrite of the lighting engine, and at that point you might as well just give us dynamic lighting for torches too, which would make the Glare useless again. Plus, Mojang said that dynamic lighting is not something they want to add (though they also said the same thing about auto-crafters so... )

Oh, correction, five videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2jJhhFyldg

(Though I will say that sometimes mobs don't actually need a use, sometimes just being ambience is enough. Looking at you, bats and polar bears.)

[mint cypress]

yeah, i dont think every single thing in the game should have a farmable use

[summer scaffold]

i love how endermites are just a cube

[mint cypress]

smallest mob in the game

[flat geode]

What about tadpoles?

[mint cypress]

fair, i forgot those guys existed

[dusty thunder]

Ngl, not a fan of the endermite idea in the vid above. I like the cocoon part, but the whole "happy Enderman" thing is...not good. The texture looks bad, and the idea that the Endermen would attack one of their own doesn't make sense.

[rich cove]

https://youtube.com/shorts/PW-CdS-Pihc?si=hMdWr0ig6YhuG7jd

[dusty thunder]

Shit. Not gonna unsee that now.

[sterile willow]

it's impossible to fix, it's just a minecraft limitation

[elfin heart]

if you edited the texture to match when facing that side, then it wouldn't match facing the opposite side. Engagement bait?

[timid oyster]

You'd have to make the center line two pixels wide which would look less good

[rich cove]

The pain of pixel measurements

[flat geode]

That is an insane port

[flat geode]

They used 3D cherry doors in the Elder Guardian Video?

[elfin heart]

which vid is that

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs-rMm5luB8

This one

Timestamp is wrong

It's at 4:24

[summer scaffold]

aren't gurdians mechanical

[dusty thunder]

They are a type of golem, yes, but not inherently mechanical.

Likely a magical construct, especially considering their lasers are magical.

[summer scaffold]

i just temember the elder guardian cross section from Mobestiary

[flat geode]

I feel like they retcon that a lot...

[dusty thunder]

The Mobestiary is cool, but not "canon". Mojang doesn't consider it canon to the game lore (and yes, there is lore in the game, just not a story).

[summer scaffold]

oh really ???? :(

[dusty thunder]

Yeah

[summer scaffold]

that makes me sad it's a really cool book

[dusty thunder]

It doesn't stop being cool!

[summer scaffold]

that's true

obviously the game itself is prime canon

it's like how the Star Wars movies are prime canon and everything else is secondary (except maybe for the sequels but that's a debate for another time/thread )

[elfin heart]

dang, interesting

[dusty thunder]

...Nooooo? The movies are the main thread, sure, but the shows are prime canon too.

They aren't secondary

Secondary would be the novels and comics

[elfin heart]

adventure time comics are peak btw

[summer scaffold]

ok true

[flat geode]

oooo, Minecraft Server Management Protocol (No clue what that means...)

Copper Golems are back to shorter a block again tho

oooo, I think you can render player heads in chat compenets in vanilla now!

They also move some server properties to gamerules

Which is so useful to change on the fly now!

[zinc epoch]

If someone could help me that would BE AWESOME- so I downloaded this controller mod for a modpack im using, it says my controllers connected but when i try and set up keybinds it won’t work-

And also i tried getting help in the mods server but no ones answering me, theres another person having the same problem to and theyve been asking for help for a month and no ones answering

[timid oyster]

I won't be able to help you but you should provide the mod name and minecraft version

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a_dY27mlfk

The name of the Game Drop is: ||The Copper Age||

No date tho :(

[mint cypress]

[elfin heart]

oh shoot, so a server could have people’s heads show next to their usernames like the Chat Heads mod?

[flat geode]

Possibly, it should be possible in a server-side mod, and it might be in a datapack even? I haven't looked into how powerful chat types are

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTcco6ympRk

This is a quite interesting video

They talk about not talking about lore

[novel mica]

built a watchtower

[surreal hearth]

Anypony know any +1.19 quest driven modpacks that have a engineering theme?

Looking to do something fun with my friends, but they struggle when the game is open-ended

[dusty thunder]

What do you mean by engineering theme, in this case? Something like the old factory/tech-y modpacks from "Ye Olden Times of Modding", or something more like Create?

Also, by "quest-driven", do you mean a linear story (of sorts) to follow, or more like a step-by-step progression system where you reach higher and higher goals?

I do have a modpack in mind that has quests up the wazoo, and Create is very heavily integrated into pretty much everything so you'll be using a lot of engineering (as well as various forms of magic and witchery), but it's also a bit on the open-ended/RPG/explorations/dungeon-crawling side of things too, so it may not be what you're looking for.

But Shadowtrot in the Ponycraft server might have some ideas. He does a lot of modded gameplay, iirc.

[surreal hearth]

What'd you have in mind? I don't mind opened ended, but its easier for my friends to stay interested if there is a linear progression system, even if the steps are large. And, yeah create mod is my fav; so anything that has it moderately/heavily integrated into the playthrough.

Oh lord they typin

[dusty thunder]

Have you ever heard of Integrated Minecraft? It's Forge-based (most of the best packs are), and it has hundreds of quests, about 40-ish bosses, tons of dimensions and new biomes, and looooooots of new structures. The entire theme of the pack is integrating every mod inside it with each other, so you'll be seeing Create or some magic mods A LOT in almost every recipe. As I said though, it's pretty open-ended with the quests, and the broader theme of the pack is RPG-like adventure and exploration, so it might not be what your friends would like. Unfortunately, it's hard to find a really good modern modpack in 1.19+ that isn't RPG-like or open-ended like that.

Another one you could try looking at is Prominence 2: Hasturian Era. It's a lot more linear with the quests and even has a story mode of sorts, but it is more magic-based from what I can tell, though there does seem to be some technology mods added to it (I don't think Create is one of them, though).

CaptainSparklez did a really great playthrough for both of them on his second channel.

[surreal hearth]

I will look into those right now!

[dusty thunder]

Oh, there's also another one that Sparklez did

Actually, is doing

It's one called Reclamation. Not sure if it's a custom modpack he designed or if it's one that can be found, but it's all about restoring a barren world. The quests are less storage-based and more goal-based, with the ultimate goal being restoring the entire world. You'll be starting with scraps and working your way up. It seems to use quite a fair bit of tech, and not all of it Create-based (though much of it is).

Ah, it can indeed be downloaded for your own use! https://www.curseforge.com/minecraft/modpacks/reclamation-reclaim-the-world

And based on the description, it might actually be right up your friends' alley

[surreal hearth]

oh wow, yeah this looks pretty nice

yeah... that might work

1.20.1 also

[dusty thunder]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Aelxdf1SI0

[surreal hearth]

My friends are so picky, and also don't help at all with the backend work

So its always a challenge finding modpacks

[dusty thunder]

Personally if I were to play a modpack, it'd be something like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yBai9purmjQ

[surreal hearth]

oh gosh not the wither storm

Wither storm on its way to ruin everyones day

Thanks a lot GT! ill run Reclamation, BD, and Integrated MC by them and hopefully they bite

[dusty thunder]

Oh, no, I don't think they'd like Beyond Depth, I was saying that I'd play a modpack like that.

But Reclamation and Integrated MC I think they'd like a lot better, or at least Reclamation, which gives you an ultimate goal, unlike Integrated MC.

Maybe Prominence 2 as well, if they don't mind switching out engineering for magic instead. They'll get a story mode with that one at least.

[surreal hearth]

(The engineering is for me , so I have something to do while they mindlessly frick off exploring/looting)

(They're loot goblins)

[dusty thunder]

Oooooh okay, in that case go wild with Beyond Depth, it's got some tech stuff too, though it isn't the main focus.

It's apparently pretty dang hard though

[flat geode]

Finally!

WHAT!?

Going to have to test that out

But still no pre-release yet...

[high elm]

probably gonna be useful for servers like Hypixel

have a proper NPC entity to handle stuff

[flat geode]

If they'd update...

[little rampart]

Added a new type of technical entity called minecraft:mannequin which can only be spawned with summon commands.
- A Mannequin is a Player Avatar without a connected Player
- Mannequins always show an "NPC" text where a Player's below_score score would show
- Mannequins function as Living Entities - they can hold and wear equipment, have attributes & effects, take damage, etc
## Resource Pack Version 68.0```
They added Herobrine!

[flat geode]

I wonder if you can change the skins

Answer is yes

[mint cypress]

[grave ravine]

you may not like it, but this is Herobrine in peak form

[flat geode]

That is the skin that the account "Herobrine" uses lol

[rich cove]

Meowbrine

[fleet marlin]

Still not over how good Vibrant Visuals makes everything look

[novel mica]

the create mod

although thats very steampunk

[dusty thunder]

They love Create, they mentioned that already

[novel mica]

oops

[dusty thunder]

Do you have some kind of addon that changes how you walk? It doesn't look like how you normally walk in Minecraft, it looks smoother and the bounciness is more subtle.

[fleet marlin]

Well I'm just not walking very fast

I'm on Xbox so I can move the joystick only a little to walk at a slower pace, unlike a keyboard

[dusty thunder]

Ooooh that's actually kinda cool

[fleet marlin]

Also, I wanted to spruce up some bridges and pathways, that's what the lamps are here's the first bridge I overhauled

Before

After

I basically just added a canopy and swapped torches for lanterns

[dusty thunder]

Oh wow that water looks lovely with VV on

[fleet marlin]

I think it looks a hundred times better

Night and day

[dusty thunder]

Yeah that canopy is lovely, gives the bridge and surrounding area a much cozier vibe

[fleet marlin]

Mhm

I've got a couple others to do on this trail

It's that 2 mile long walk to the ruins way out east

Don't think I'll be adding canopies to the ones heading to the end, thought, don't think that style lends itself to that

The bridge in question:

If you're wondering about the random fences
I have my paths marked with path blocks, but that doesn't work too well in the desert, so I use sandstone and red sandstone to mark paths, but they were hardly visible, especially the red, and it got significantly worse with VV, so I needed some decent way to make it clear where the path is, but still diagetic and I thought some dusty abandoned fences would work great

[rich cove]

Seeing all these builds reminds me I came into this game way too late and on the wrong platform. I'm probably not going to get to experience half of what Minecraft has to offer just cause I'm on Switch and there's SO MUCH to the game now. I can't even play survival because the controls are shoddy. I stick to creative. But I've long before experienced all Minecraft has to offer through youtubers and creators, so I am at peace mostly. Content to stay in creative and build my builds

[fleet marlin]

I'm on Xbox, so I'm running bedrock, too

I don't have a switch so I can't speak to the controls but I can say that there's no need for modding, it can be a lot of fun but Minecraft is just fine vanilla

[fleet marlin]

I don't think I could even fit a cover on this

[fleet marlin]

Next bridge

Before

After

It's near my garden with the cherry blossom perimeter, so this felt appropriate

I already related a lot of the bridges, I don't wanna repeat the canopy

[surreal hearth]

so pretty

[slate parrot]

How do I fix this?

[dusty thunder]

Try updating your drivers, even if it says you are up to date. Sometimes it doesn't automatically check.

[grave ravine]

also try rebooting, even if you've updated

[slate parrot]

I did both of these, and it is still not working. The launcher is also really laggy for some reason

[grave ravine]

that means it's running on a software fallback, so there is something in your graphics driver that broke

I would suggest doing a clean install of the graphics driver, e.g. on NVIDIA, there's a "Perform a clean installation" checkbox in the installer at some point

[slate parrot]

My card is an AMD

I fixed it

[fleet marlin]

Moar bridges

Before and after

[slate parrot]

You were right, I fixed it by doing a clean install of my drivers

[novel mica]

ooh

i think the first bridge is great on its own

[fleet marlin]

I didn't remove any of it, just added on

[fleet marlin]

Had a couple "bridges" like this in some birch biomes

This one came out pretty mid

This one came out a lot better

[elfin heart]

MANNEQUINS

[mint cypress]

• unremoved Herobrine

[flat geode]

https://open.spotify.com/album/2pxMW4xQhzJC0ALh48IWBG

New Remixes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNnHdKKfRCQ

Ooo, the animation is soo cool!

[glad gale]

Listening now

[dusty thunder]

Some of these sound like they're from a Sonic game, which is great!

[dusty thunder]

We are slowly devolving into the Silksong fanbase, lol

[flat geode]

We are them at this point. Silksong is coming, End Update hasn't yet

[mint cypress]

End update tomorrow

[flat geode]

Yeah! End Update tomorrow!

[dusty thunder]

starts prepping "Fell For It Again" awards for the next Minecraft Live

[flat geode]

I've been noticed!

[fleet marlin]

Toycat mentioned

I wanna submit my survival world for realm review but you can only get one free trial and I never feel like my world is "done" enough

And he's been doing a lot of "themed" realm reviews

[flat geode]

Oooo, 1.21.120.20 is out, Copper Drop can't be too far ahead now

[novel mica]

they're called pontoon bridges

[fleet marlin]

Huh

Didn't do that intentionally

[fleet marlin]

Anyone else have "haunted" sections of their world?

There's a specific spruce village in my world where whenever I'm near it, my game lags constantly for no reason
Block updates fail
Signs delete themselves
And while I was building a bridge I was thrown off the side of it randomly

The village is also a complete ghost town, no villagers or golems in sight
It's not an abandoned village, there's no cobwebs or stained glass
And I play in peaceful, so I don't think anything "got" them

Idk it gives me the creeps

[mint cypress]

ig this can count

[little rampart]

You son of a bitch you divided by zero didn't you

Did math teachers teach you nothing!!

[fleet marlin]

More bridges time

I had these three bridges I this style

The two birch ones got made into these two, that I'm rather happy with

And I completely overhauled the spruce one

I'm really happy with it

[fleet marlin]

It looks proper ominous

Wanted it to, since it's in the middle of the haunted taiga

[dusty thunder]

...Did you find the Everfree Forest, by chance?

[fleet marlin]

Is Everfree forest a hilly taiga?

My happy ghast also kept bucking me off whenever I flew too low down near there
Didn't even know that was a thing

[flat geode]

Prob part of the rubber banding

[fleet marlin]

In any case it's fucking weird

Haven't had it happen on horseback, but I'm also through pretty quickly on a horse, so it's possible I just haven't been in it at the time it would happen

[dusty thunder]

I mean, it's got some pine trees in it, and it does have the occasional hill

[vocal eagle]

and Gaia Everfree-eeee-eee-eeee 👻

[fleet marlin]

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/trGWAYkte7

Even when nothing happens it's pretty eerie

[dusty thunder]

Oddly enough, that screenshot reminds me of Myst.

Like, the spot just before you enter the little forest on the island

[summer scaffold]

huh, it is a little Myst like

[fleet marlin]

Oh it's a video

You can click through

I found a single villager living in that village
Interacting with them immediately caused one of the "still periods"

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, that place is haunted

[fleet marlin]

I got a video of it, using the "record last minute" feature on xbox

I'm trying to edit it down to just when I find them and it keeps crashing my app when I try to

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/mdPwY3etdJ

Here's a link to the video ig

Next time it rains I'll get more screenshots, this area has mad horror vibes

I mean look at this

[dusty thunder]

[timid oyster]

Herowobrine

[fleet marlin]

Finally got one of those multi day rains I was on about

Here's some screenshots with that + low render distance

A lot of them are the bridge because there's only like 2 interesting looking things here and the village doesn't photograph well

So I can't see on my end how many pictures, if any, got deleted from the autoyeet

[little rampart]

All were yoten

[fleet marlin]

Moment

Still feel like that's an outdated mechanic since sending multiple images does this now

[dusty thunder]

That dark sky is awesome

[fleet marlin]

This is all of the main bridge

[dusty thunder]

That's some gloomy, atmospheric beauty right there

[fleet marlin]

Various trail shots

And two village pictures plus a bridge pic I missed

I really like this one

[grave ravine]

I don't see rain often in Minecraft compared to before, was the rain chance decreased in an update?

I remember Beta, people often joked about Minecraft being set in the UK

maybe it was just confirmation bias though

[mint cypress]

this is the only major change in recent times

[fleet marlin]

Which is why it happens so fucking often

It's like a third of the reason I live in a badlands

That and yeehaw vibes

Yeehaw vibes are the other two thirds

I've been tempted recently to make a second train that runs through the overworld instead of through the neather, so you can have a more scenic trip at the cost of efficiency

I'd have to build it closer to sea level to avoid building a bigilion hyper long bridges, thought

I'll find wherever I've built that watch tower and garden, and use that y level, then see if there's anywhere good to put a station at Cliff's Egde

[fleet marlin]

This is why I build all of my transportation, including elytra towers, based on rivers

[novel mica]

spruce and dark oak bridge

also does it look better with or without the detailing under the last span

[fleet marlin]

With, imo

Idk shit about bridges TBH though, I go on vibes

Here's my biggest

[novel mica]

very nice

[fleet marlin]

So this thing exists in my world

And I've got like
Lore I made up for why, but it isn't anywhere in the world, so it may aswell not exist

So I wrote a couple books in the nearby college to explain what it is and why

[elfin heart]

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/H5Zj5UAt0ik

What....?

[fathom ember]

[round quartz]

I love that meme

[flat geode]

This is why the others horses don't drink the water when you lead them to it

[fleet marlin]

It's based on this meme

[flat geode]

Hmmmm....

[timid oyster]

I recognize Etho, Grian and Mumbo but not the other two

[flat geode]

slicedlime and myself. One is me taking a screenshot and the other is from slicedlime's thumbnail for the technical news update for the snapshot

[timid oyster]

Ooh at first I thought you had met them lol

[flat geode]

Nah, we both just trolling with mannequins

[harsh blaze]

When the mannequins come out, Mine Little Pony should display them as ponies if the user is wearing a Mine Little Pony-compatible skin

[grave ravine]

done!

[flat geode]

Yet another snapshot tho

Spawners are also a gamerule now, so that's neat

Copper Golems can also open doors like on Bedrock now too

[grave ravine]

I didn't know Minecraft specified OpenGL 4.0 as a baseline on their website since 2017

that's quite early, GL 4.0 was still relatively new back then (well, 7 years old but early GL4 had bad adoption)

[flat geode]

From the Bedrock Beta. I know we wanted some more transparency, but I don't think this is what we meant. Mobs, plants, and now glass is transparent when close up.

[grave ravine]

interesting way to do it

it's not physically accurate as far as I can tell

I suppose it will mimic the Fresnel effect somewhat, but Fresnel effect is more based on the camera-surface angle than the distance

[flat geode]

I think it's for accessibility?

[rich cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDxVj8iMgag

[flat geode]

Yeah, it's a decent amount of stuff that Eight Sided Square found in this video a year back: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_hy6FF_P4

It's cool they're making it available in game.

[grave ravine]

it's very common for games to have debug tools that are hidden, but sometimes they are just stripped away from release builds entirely. It's good there's a way to enable them, it's useful for modders, speedrunners (for training), etc

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QU20HMPZ3M

September 27th

If they're doing what they did last time 1.21.9 should release on the 30th

It does say drops though, which means that the winter slot is prob a drop

[dusty thunder]

Please let us have a normal update again, Mojang

[flat geode]

Was watching a video about pictures from Mojang HQ and how they're recording MCLive, but I also saw this

Amongus

[mint cypress]

[novel mica]

i hope they announce 1.22 cause otherwise it would make 2025 the first year since 2015 without a major update

[flat geode]

I don't think they will... If they don't in have one in the first half of 2026, I'll actually be kinda peeved

[novel mica]

yeah

i think they should do a forest update since forests have basically been the same since minecraft beta and i kinda how hate how boring they often are

[flat geode]

But they did just change it in Spring to Life?

What are you looking for?

[novel mica]

adding leaf litter really?

[flat geode]

There was also fallen logs

[novel mica]

but forests are boring

[flat geode]

Not everything needs to be exciting really

[novel mica]

they have no exclusive structures btw im talking about regular oak forests not the other types

[flat geode]

I love making cool structures, but I don't think every biome needs one.

[novel mica]

really?

[flat geode]

Yeah, I feel like the world shouldn't be clogged with structures in every biome. Limits space for the player to build in.

What kind of structure were you thinking of?

[novel mica]

i think a cottage structure would be interesting

im not really pushing for this i just wanted to brainstorm what biomes it would be cool to update

[flat geode]

If you want I could code it in a datapack for ya

[novel mica]

i appreciate your generosity but no thanks

[flat geode]

Alright. One thing I'd like for new structures is to have biome variations, like villages. One example is kanokarob who is making a series of Biome Based strongholds. Though, it's more than beyond what Mojang would do in vanilla

[novel mica]

if i wanted to do this i would do it myself

[little rampart]

what about bees? those really helped forests a lot

a deer mob would be fire tho

[harsh blaze]

problem is that it would be almost useless like goats

With mojang being mojang, they’re not gonna add venison

or deer skin

all you’ll get is antlers, and i don’t see much of a use for them

If mojang let you craft the head and mount it on your wall, that would at least be interesting

“Aesthetic” mobs are neat, but it’s getting to the point that almost every passive mob added to the game does almost nothing. I’d rather them not add a new mob at all if they’re just gonna add it to clutter worlds and fill up the passive mob spawn cap

I’d rather them add something fictitious that actually does something and can be used or killed for something useful

[flat geode]

I don't think Mojang would do that, given it's a real animal. I don't think they want to support that behavior

[harsh blaze]

obviously not

my problem with Mojang is that they're so adverse to letting us kill animals for food and resources, that I'll bet that if sheep and cows and pigs and such were added to Minecraft now, they'd be utterly useless. No leather, no beef, no mutton, no feathers, etc.

all you'd be able to do is get wool and eggs

[harsh blaze]

this is also why I said I'd rather them add something fictitious, because at least then they can give it something to drop or something to give to the player that actually justifies its inclusion

"aesthetics" alone should not justify a mob being added to Minecraft

[timid oyster]

The illusion of scale

"damn there's so many shit in this game!"
80% is pretty much useless

[novel mica]

a neutral bear mob could be interesting for spruce forests

cause its kinda dumb that minecraft has polar bears but no regular just bears

[little rampart]

Bears would be neat

[elfin heart]

real

this is why I want Mojang to add a new SYSTEM that actually feels like it belongs in a sandbox

like redstone or custom banners

They had weird 1.21.4 snapshot code where eyeblossoms that would open faster based on how many other eyeblossoms had opened??? why did they make something so complicated yet completely useless

increase the speed of rails and then add some new rail types for junctions, or maybe expand on boat mechanics with the intention of supporting ice boat racing

add a village community notice board which has long-term gathering trades for rare items

these things don’t often look as good as copper golems on promotional material but we still need em

[timid oyster]

It feels to me like they're being less daring and less ambitious

Back in the day, every minecraft update felt big cuz it added actual useful mechanics or big stuff

There isn't really anything new in the game

There is sometimes but for the most part the updates feel rather mid