Minecraft

[gilded geyser]

I saw a deer at walmart

[civic abyss]

see for me, it remind me of the downtown milwaukee hilton, where ciderfest was held

[tough glen]

.

[tough glen]

beautification !

[fleet marlin]

Did you mean to post that in the Minecraft thread?

[vocal eagle]

7 year old: "Minecraft villagers are STUPID"
Me: "why?"
him: "they can't solve even SIMPLE mazes!"

[barren nacelle]

villagers are now stupid broken lol

i think their trades need heavy nerfs

mending should never be on a villager

[vocal eagle]

I have the opposite thought -- mending should be easy to get, because gear maintenance is obnoxious

[crisp adder]

Villagers should not have as much discounts due to curing, because that enables (librarian) glass -> (mason?) panes or shelves -> books infinite trading.

[dusty thunder]

I don't mind there being a little bit of a challenge to get it, but I don't think Mending should be relegated to being one of the rarest enchantments in the game or something like that.

Luckily, Mojang isn't making Mending extremely rare.

They're instead giving the Mending trade only to swamp librarians. More difficult to get, but still obtainable.

[barren nacelle]

mending is overpowered

and getting it thru villager trading is dumb

its such an uninteresting noninteractive way

that doesnt teach anything nor feel accomplishing

[crisp adder]

How would you propose to get mending (renewably)?

[barren nacelle]

rare dungeon reward

imo

a special dungeon

[crisp adder]

And there's always someone who would make a farm out of that dungeon

[barren nacelle]

u cant

like elytra

one per dungeon

[crisp adder]

Oh, so not renewable. Ewwwww

[barren nacelle]

yep

it shouldnt be

[dusty thunder]

F*ck that, especially if it's a server with TONS of players.

[barren nacelle]

most servers have literal plugins to get any item using some sort of currency

its been done since like 2013

[crisp adder]

Plugins? Ew x2

Paper? Get the buck out

(Paper is very bad for technical redstone)

[dusty thunder]

You shouldn't have to rely on plugins

That's dumb

[barren nacelle]

u shouldnt rely on a broken enchantment that breaks the entire

balance of the game

[dusty thunder]

You're exaggerating again

[crisp adder]

It doesn't break balance? Once you progress past early game you shouldn't have to continue mining for netherite (another non-renewable) to keep repairing armor and tools

[barren nacelle]

its a broken enchantment that breaks the entire game.

[dusty thunder]

No it doesn't

[barren nacelle]

it does

[crisp adder]

What is so "unbalanced" about having effectively unbreakable tools? Again, netherite is non-renewable.

[shut bridge]

neither is diamond ore

[crisp adder]

(Diamond armor / tools from villagers is another whole can of worms)

[barren nacelle]

turning any tool into infinite from the start of the game

breaks the entire progression and balance

[flat geode]

start?

[dusty thunder]

What progression?

[crisp adder]

What progression?

[barren nacelle]

are u trolling

😭

[dusty thunder]

There's no real progression in the game

[barren nacelle]

???????

literally trolling

[shut bridge]

what progression
i've gone from spawn to diamond gear in less than 20 minutes

[barren nacelle]

yea cus there used to be progression

but mojang removed it

[crisp adder]

I make my first iron and mob farms within the first day of any server.

[rich cove]

Not everyone is a speedrunner looking to get Netherite armor and 64 god apples within the first 20 seconds

[barren nacelle]

i hate modern mc for these reasons

[rich cove]

Progression is subjective

[dusty thunder]

You go from a wood pick to a stone pick to an iron pick to diamond to netherite, and that's it. Alternatively, you can skip all of those altogether and go straight to diamond if you find some chests, and to Netherite within a couple hours.

And even then, that's no progression. YOU still stay the same. You still have the same weaknesses, the same strengths, the same abilities, you're just a little tougher to kill now. Mending doesn't break anything.

[barren nacelle]

yea cus mojang messed it up

there used to be proper progression

[rich cove]

Progression for me is gaining my first diamond, while progression for another is beating the dragon before they even pick up iron

[barren nacelle]

but its been so poorly balanced

u can now get mending day 1

[rich cove]

I agree Mending isn't broken

[flat geode]

I don't see anything wrong with that

[dusty thunder]

Is this always your response to everything? "Mojang bad"?

[rich cove]

WHO cares??? In most situations it's a single player game. Just don't get it day one if you don't want to

[barren nacelle]

breaks the entire

progression and balance of the game

😭

[dusty thunder]

It literally doesn't. We just proved it doesn't.

[rich cove]

IT'S LITERALLY ONLY YOU IN THE GAME

What are you breaking???

[dusty thunder]

Calm down, Flameon

[barren nacelle]

the entire progression and balance

its like getting max gear in terraria day 1

[dusty thunder]

Terraria is fundamentally different from Minecraft.

[barren nacelle]

mojang messed things up

[barren nacelle]

an example.

[crisp adder]

EoL farms day 1? I don't think so. That still takes a long time to build.
(Wrong reply)

[rich cove]

So. What?

You literally have to choose to get that armor and gear. It isn't just given to you.

[vocal eagle]

I started playing Minecraft when tools could be infinitely repaired. I consider the costly repair system to be a negative. Mending is a way of investing in "repair is no longer a problem", and should be attainable by the time you reach netherite tech.

[dusty thunder]

Terraria is an open world RPG with crafting and mining elements. It's progression system is how you "level up". Minecraft, on the other hand, is a sandbox with no RPG elements.

[rich cove]

You act like it's forced on you for free, and that you are forced to use that gear. Just, don't get the gear. Wait till Day 50 or whatever.

[barren nacelle]

Minecraft is ALSO an open world rpg game

ever since 1.8

[barren nacelle]

??? I literally get it day 1

[flat geode]

Then don't

[barren nacelle]

???

[flat geode]

it's a sandbox lol

[barren nacelle]

thats such a bad argument

[rich cove]

And that's why you think it's broken

You just proved my point

[flat geode]

You can limit yourself

[barren nacelle]

because u shouldnt be able to get it day 1

thats excusing bad game design

thats not an excuse!!

[shell lichen]

what

[dusty thunder]

You literally don't have to use it. In Terraria, you're forced to upgrade because it's upgrade or die. You can play Minecraft from start to "finish" without ever using diamond armor. Hell, without ever using any armor.

[crisp adder]

Speedrunners: what

[rich cove]

I'm done. Clearly I'm not going to get the point through to you

[shut bridge]

alright time to put my mod hat on

Vee
If you keep berating and degrading those of us who play modern Minecraft, and continue with the "mojang bad" and blatant over exaggeration just because you don't like it, we're going to have problems, and you're not going to be here much longer. Got it?

[barren nacelle]

excusing bad game design with "just ignore it" makes no sense

[barren nacelle]

berating me for having problems with modern MC is not okay and thats whats happening here

[vocal eagle]

making it hard to repair gear in Minecraft is bad game design. By endgame, it should be automatic. Mending should be attainable.

[shell lichen]

its ok to have problems with modern minecraft
but you have problems with users liking modern minecraft, and thats not ok

[barren nacelle]

???

[barren nacelle]

No. they have problems with me

not the other way around

[proper umbra]

No Vee. It's very much you venting about how unhappy you are, and when people disagree you dig in and insist that you are correct.

[dusty thunder]

This is not just "having problems", you're actively calling people trolls if they argue against your points, points that have been disproven. You're acting like you're always right and we're always wrong, every single time.

[barren nacelle]

i pointed out a problem i had with the game, people got upset and tried to invalidate me

so i defend my point

[dusty thunder]

No, we pointed out a flaw in your reasoning.

[proper umbra]

Instead, you can agree to disagree and move on, instead of insisting everyone else is wrong.

[barren nacelle]

and i am pointing out a flaw on you too

[barren nacelle]

Nope!

[dusty thunder]

We're not trying to "invalidate" anyone.

[barren nacelle]

GT is doing that

GT is trying to prove I'm invalidate and wrong

multiple times now.

[proper umbra]

Okay, if Nope is your response, you can have a timeout until you realize that this isn't an Us vs Them fight you need to be having.

[dusty thunder]

I'll move on now.

[vocal eagle]

is it OK for the rest of us to discuss what we think should happen with mending or do we need to abandon the topic entirely?

[dusty thunder]

The future of mending is still a viable topic imo, but since it just came off the back of this argument, maybe it'd be best to discuss something else for a bit.

[proper umbra]

Yeah, it's a valid topic, but right now people are too heated.

[flat geode]

Yeah, let's talk about something nice

[shell lichen]

i liked the mod industrial craft's tool system, electric tools that just needed to be recharged but didnt break

[dusty thunder]

How about the future of the game as a whole? What's everyone's ideas for the next update, since Mojang is undoubtedly already workshopping it.

I'd love a structure update, given how Mojang has proved they've got some solid ideas for structures and dungeons in the form of Trial Chambers.

[crisp adder]

Tnt duping alternative, that's not withers. Been wishing for this for a long time.

[flat geode]

Might be an end update, maybe something light, but maybe with combat thrown in as well so it doesn't feel too small

[dusty thunder]

Revamping dungeons to be just as cool and modular as Trial Chambers would be awesome

[rich cove]

Anyways, I've only ever played Minecraft for 30 minutes total

It was on Switch

[flat geode]

Another End Dungeon would be cool

[shell lichen]

an end revamp would be cool

[rich cove]

Switch Minecraft didn't bring me the joy I thought I would have

[dusty thunder]

We desperately need an End Update, but every time I've made a bet that it'd be the next update I've always been wrong, so now I'm just gonna wait and see.

[rich cove]

I want more End lore

[sleek bane]

I would have liked to get it on the Switch but I like having access to mods

[shell lichen]

we need a cannon aether update

[mint cypress]

I'm always hoping for something like an inventory expansion bc they add a lot of cool stuff but not enough space to carry

[flat geode]

They should do 1.9 again, but better!

[dusty thunder]

They literally have the OG Aether mod creator on the team, and he's helped put out some awesome content.

[shell lichen]

wait, they do? huh, thats awesome

[flat geode]

kingbdogz

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, unfortunately, the only way to get anything relating to mods on the Switch/Bedrock version of the game is by buying "add-ons" from the Marketplace.

And they're pretty weak alternatives compared to the stuff you get on Java

[shut bridge]

I think a new dimension would be cool
but idk what it would be

sky dimension would be cool
since we already have Hell and Void

[flat geode]

Bedrock had some modding before, but Microsoft are killing it rn by removing the PDB files

[dusty thunder]

I think a water dimension would be pretty cool. Something like Subnautica, with HUGE beasties to avoid and/or fight.

Plus, it'd give Mojang the opportunity to add more water-based vehicles.

[flat geode]

Home of the guardians, or maybe smaller less deadly versions

[shut bridge]

subnautica

[dusty thunder]

Subcraftia

[shut bridge]

are you certain that whatever you're doing is worth it

[shell lichen]

so
the ocean

[flat geode]

what?

[dusty thunder]

I mean, it's the last of the four elements to be given a dimension. We have earth (Overworld), fire (Nether), and air (End)

[shell lichen]

tho a "deepest ocean" biome would be really fun, and agreed more water transport options would be awesome

end is more "void"

[dusty thunder]

Well, the ocean in the Overworld is pretty calm, all things considered.

[shut bridge]

subnautica

[flat geode]

Ah ok lol

[rich cove]

I desperately want to play Subnautica

[dusty thunder]

Probably one of the scariest lines someone has ever written in a video game.

Because even if you know what you're doing and you know it's worth it, just reading and hearing that line aloud still gives you pause.

[shut bridge]

other than the threat of drowning and the occasional Drowned, the Overworld's ocean is pretty tame if you stay out of the guardian temples

[dusty thunder]

OH!

How about this

A maze dimension

Only one entrance and one exit.

[flat geode]

But... why?

[dusty thunder]

It could be where you find some of the coolest gear and a lot of unique treasures, but is also where you find the hardest mobs, and there's the risk of getting lost.

[flat geode]

I think there was a maze dimension in that april fools update

[dusty thunder]

And since the maze is endless, it'd be like mapping out uncharted territory a-la Maze Runners.

[shut bridge]

there was a lot of good dimension ideas in that April Fool's update

[dusty thunder]

Indeed

Frankly, I think that was them actually testing out various concepts on the sly.

Like, there was literally a metal grate block introduced in that same update.

And a few updates later we got copper grates

[shut bridge]

oh i totally think they were doing that
you think they'd waste all the dev effort for that snapshot on nothing?

[flat geode]

I think it was somewhat of a puzzle too

[dusty thunder]

Well, a lot of it was obviously for the jokes, but there was also some genuinely good concepts in there.

Hell, the most recent April Fools update even had blocks that could continuously move groups of blocks across the sky, kinda like Create.

[flat geode]

Mhm! I wonder what they're going to use from that update

[dusty thunder]

https://youtu.be/s_VWNUJ3bEs?t=686

TImestamped the floater block

[shut bridge]

Poisonous Potato
ah how useless of an item you are

[shell lichen]

yeah im honeslty suprised you cant brew it into a poison of some kind

[flat geode]

Can you bone meal it?

[shell lichen]

at bare minimum

[flat geode]

Maybe it could be used to make sus stew eventually

[dusty thunder]

It's "Jeb's feature", the one feature he was allowed to add into the game for his own amusement, and he said it would never have a use, solely for the laughs.

It's been in the game for like a decade, and he's kept to that promise. This entire April Fools update was basically trolling everyone who wanted it to have a use.

[flat geode]

gosh darn it jeb

[shut bridge]

i want that floater block
i want a flying island

[dusty thunder]

It'll never be in any recipe, it'll never be used for anything, and you can't even compost it. They thought of everything and decided to make sure that it could be used for nothing.

Again, solely for the laughs.

[rich cove]

Incorrect. You can eat it

[dusty thunder]

Forget flying island, I want a flying airship!

[flat geode]

has amazing "health benefits"

[dusty thunder]

Okay, technically it's used for that one advancement, but Jeb doesn't count that as a "use".

[cloud spear]

This game would be so perfect with them.

[crisp adder]

If the floater uses block entities for movement, u might fall through the island as it moves.

(I haven't played the april fools update)

[flat geode]

It seems pretty stable from what I've seen

People making spaceships in the end and such, with no fear of falling through over the abysmal abyss

[shut bridge]

X was standing on a chunk of blocks as it was moving in their video

[crisp adder]

Nvm just watched a bit further into the video.

Still can't place blocks on them though

[flat geode]

That's a little too much lol

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, obviously it needs to be balanced, but still

It would be sooooo cool to have it in the game. Smooth elevators, smooth flying machines, etc.

[crisp adder]

is there any way, if ur sitting in one of these floating islands, to stop?

[dusty thunder]

Pretty sure you can power it again to stop?

[crisp adder]

(you can't place blocks...)

[flat geode]

or place a block

[dusty thunder]

Well, in the April Fools update you can't

But I mean, theoretically if this was in the game, you'd likely be able to flip a switch or something.

[shut bridge]

it'll stop when you hit the world border

[dusty thunder]

Now rotating would be the main issue, especially if you're going for something like an airship design

[flat geode]

Let me test rq

[dusty thunder]

Is it even still available in the launcher?

[flat geode]

ofc

[dusty thunder]

Huh, TIL that they keep the April Fools updates up

[crisp adder]

[flat geode]

Ok, that's funny

[flat geode]

haha! I don't update Java!

tho I prob should

[shut bridge]

you don't need to on the stock launcher

3rd party launchers like Prism rely on external Java installs

anything before 1.20.5 is Java 17
1.20.5 and after is Java 21

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Java_Edition_24w14potato
wiki page

[flat geode]

Can't seem to place a block midair to stop

but it does stop whenever it hits another block

[crisp adder]

u can place a floatato!

[flat geode]

More Floatatos make it faster

[shut bridge]

A floatater structure is composed of all connected blocks in a 32×32×32 area and is stopped if any of these blocks are making contact with a block outside of it.

It flies until one of the blocks at the front of the floatater structure hits another irreplaceable block.

[dusty thunder]

Ah, so there is a limit.

[shut bridge]

it can move 32,768 blocks, including itself

as long as it's a 32x32x32 cube

[flat geode]

it's also tnt resistant in flying mode!

and can move obby

was able to make a simple design

[crisp adder]

you're going to have to design in 1 block of empty space around the floating structure except for the floatater itself, unless already at the 32x32x32 limit

otherwise it's going to stick no matter what material (since obby is movable, maybe leaves? glazed terracotta? Still gotta try)

[flat geode]

Stuff can still sorta work if you think with pistons

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, so it's definitely gonna need nerfing if it ever comes to the actual game

[crisp adder]

can it move piston heads?

[shut bridge]

A floatater creates a "super extra magic" entity (minecraft:grid_carrier) storing moved blocks when starting to float. Block entities placed as a part of the floatater structure break off when the floatater begins moving, even if not pushed by anything, and blocks connected to them are still moved. Waterlogged blocks are pushed without water.

[flat geode]

maybe, but I mean, moving blocks in and then out of the way for a sort of docking mechanism

[shut bridge]

https://minecraft.wiki/w/Floatater

[flat geode]

Ah no! I lose myself in that wiki sometimes

I want to check on update 1.4.2 and the next thing I know I'm reading the titles of the Education Edition updates

[dusty thunder]

There's so much stuff in the Education edition that I want in the vanilla game too, like the balloons, colored torches, underwater torches, etc.

[flat geode]

Minecraft technically has a "Chemistry Update"

[crisp adder]

A piston and its head are not connected in this way
Please not another way to make headless pistons

[dusty thunder]

Some of this stuff is so cool:

[shut bridge]

underwater torch

[dusty thunder]

Ice bombs, balloons, cameras, medicines, sparklers, hardened glass, super fertilizer, underwater torches, underwater TNT, colored torches...all of this stuff should be in the main game. It all fits just fine.

Hell, the allow and deny blocks would be so cool for redstone

And the chemistry stuff would allow people to make custom materials and potions (although it'd be harder to implement those very well).

Hell, even the Agent could be very useful in the main game, as sort of an upgraded copper golem:

[shut bridge]

unfortunately, i don't think we'll ever get any of that stuff

[dusty thunder]

I know...still, I can dream

[flat geode]

We might get a camera command, like bedrock has

[shut bridge]

education edition has its own paywall it's behind too
$12/user/year for anyone not school affiliated
and $5.04/user/year for schools
no cheating it either, it's licensed through Microsoft 365

[flat geode]

what's with them and choosing random numbers in the 300s?

[mint cypress]

im guessing 365 is refferring to the number of days in a year

[flat geode]

What if it's a leap year

[dusty thunder]

Man, I'm looking at China's exclusive edition of Minecraft, and they've got some funky shit in there:

These aren't mods

These are actually in China's edition of the game

[sleek bane]

Aw dang would be fun to have balloons in MC

[flat geode]

Yeah, no idea what happened there...

[dusty thunder]

Maybe someday, hun

hugs

[little rampart]

phase 4 complete!

phase 5 is roof outlines, phase 6 and 7 are facade and stairwells, order doesn't matter, phase 8 is the rest of the roofs, phase 9 is internals, and phase 10 is decorating

[shut bridge]

that's a bigass building

[dusty thunder]

I love how you just decided to build all of this solely because you had a shitton of cobble, lol

[sleek bane]

Goodness

[little rampart]

i was inspired by the chrysler building and other art deco 30's skyscrapers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Deco_architecture_of_New_York_City#/media/File:NYC_Equitable_Building_Before_1919_postcard.jpg

[sleek bane]

I knew it!

Was very much giving me that vibe

I would have felt bad for just calling it an office building or hotel.tho

[little rampart]

well, that's what most of them are lol

[shut bridge]

damnit
I can't read Chrysler Building without hearing the line from Unstoppable in my head

[little rampart]

let me see if i can find a pic of the old equestrian transit authority building from the previous minecraft server

not as big and i don't have any better angles

[dusty thunder]

Still, it's a good angle

Oh! You know what would be a funny idea? If you took all the offices in the new building and turned it into "The Place That Sends You Mad" from Asterix, where you go in for one single form and then have to go through a TON of running around to get it done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtEkUmYecnk

[flat geode]

You mean the Hermit Permit office

[sleek bane]

Not sure what I wanna do later today

[little rampart]

roof design, maybe

i like the sides, but the top i feel could be a bit more steep

or shapely

[dusty thunder]

That must've been hell to do that all diagonally.

[little rampart]

not really, just a lot of extra stone placed then mined out again

[flat geode]

Well whatever you decide, you'll do it quickly with this stylish new path!

[sleek bane]

Oh that's new! That'll be great

[little rampart]

i don't want to copy the chrysler building exactly, but i do want a resemblance

[dusty thunder]

Oh hey, you even grew some nice trees along the riverbank. Nice touch!

[sleek bane]

I may just do some light exploring. Planning to play Grounded with some friends tonight and not sure for how long

[little rampart]

iteration! the front of the top roof is slanted at a slightly different pitch because the central column is not square

i will do some more iteration with continuing the vertical lines up the roofs and see how that looks

[little rampart]

now there's a roofline i like

might change a little once i get the facade and glass on

[dusty thunder]

[shut bridge]

Minecoins
Oh Bedrock, you can be so much better than this.

[sleek bane]

That's disgusting

[mint cypress]

smh bedrock

[shut bridge]

At least Java won't ever be soiled by that crap

[little rampart]

We had an impromptu in-server currency, kirincoin, for a bit, but IIRC it was more like a coupon for the rocket store or something

[flat geode]

bring back kirincoin!

[dusty thunder]

Oh yeah, I remember that.

[little rampart]

Diamonds are still the defacto currency

[glad gale]

Iskall85 did it better

[dusty thunder]

He did it better with what?

[glad gale]

They look like the coins he made for Mission Possible challenges

[dusty thunder]

Oh those

[sleek bane]

holy crAP endermen

[summer scaffold]

yeah they're scary

[elfin heart]

I don't think I could make it again today, I was just placing blocks rapidly and looking back at my reference image with fast-paced music playing in the background for 3 hours

during that project I learned the tricks of the trade with WorldEdit for texturing, clone stamp, patterns, etc that I'll have to re-learn someday

I also made sweet apple acres and sugarcube corner which turned out well. The thing I'm most proud of is probably this stone Discord statue since I didn't think I could do it at first

[shut bridge]

MY FOX GOT OUT AND ATE ALL MY CHICKENS

[glossy shore]

RIP

[little rampart]

i've started lighting my building

i also put a bit of quartz on it to test the facade design

[shut bridge]

niiiiiiiice
i just fished a fishing rod with Lure 2 and Mending

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JD9mlVZzyIA I found another weird short

I need to just binge these one day

[little rampart]

fully lit

[dusty thunder]

@rich cove LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Songs of War seasons 2 & 3 are no longer cancelled and may finally be made by the original creators (as long as they get the funding, which they likely will)!

(Context for everyone else: Songs of War was a Minecraft animation series that was extremely well-made, well-acted, professionally animated, and had deep amounts of lore and story and a ton of world building. Unfortunately the second and third seasons got cancelled so they had to be done by fans afterwards, but now it looks like the same production team may pick it up again.)

I'm definitely gonna do my part to help fund it. I really want the full series again, and not have to settle for cheap (and I mean cheap) fan animations that can't even compare.

[rich cove]

!?!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?!!?!?!?!?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA@AAAAAAAA@AAAAAAA

[dusty thunder]

On another note, I have a question: does this banner design look similar enough to the Sword of Valor banner from Pathfinder: Wrath of the Righteous?

(Alternatively I can do this, but it doesn't look as good, imo.)

[mint cypress]

What does it look like with a red large triangle that covers the top half

[dusty thunder]

Already tried that. It doesn't look good. It covers half the design.

Okay, maybe not "half", but it still doesn't look like a sword anymore.

[sleek bane]

i make a the basement

[sleek bane]

Minecraft is a good game. I'm really glad I started it

[dusty thunder]

I knew you'd love it <333

[sleek bane]

I wanna work on the library more aaaa

[little rampart]

I need to finish my stairwells then go quartz mining

Does Fortune work on quartz?

[mint cypress]

yep

[little rampart]

Oh good it won't be so bad then

[sleek bane]

I need to make an indoor pond for Skip and his friend. Need a name for them too

[dusty thunder]

I have an idea for that, actually. You could make a little branch-off room from that "root" room you had, and make it a little pond/sanctuary for them and any other axolotl friends you may find. You could even make it look like a mini lush cave.

[glossy shore]

I found a lush cave if you want more axolotls

[dusty thunder]

There's one near PK's base that has three or four, but we left them there since he wanted to keep them all together rather than separate them.

But I've got lots of buckets so we could gather them all up.

Heeeeey, I'm getting something of an idea.

@sleek bane What if we created Fluttershy's animal sanctuary from the show once the library is done? We'd have to seal it off so that the animals can't run off, but I think it would look great. <3

[glossy shore]

put every single animal in it

including the ender dragon

[dusty thunder]

I mean, we could ask Rom for a dragon egg, even if it won't ever hatch.

[shut bridge]

I've been looking at schematics and buildings designs and I think I have an idea for the style of house I wanna build.

I've got ideas for a house, farm, stable, and a little fishing hut on my riverbank.

[dusty thunder]

Ooo, what style is it gonna be?

[glossy shore]

Just dupe them with a duping machine

[dusty thunder]

Nah, duping isn't allowed on the server, afaik.

It's why all the TNT that Stargazing uses has to be made by hand.

[shut bridge]

Paper negates a lot of duping exploits.

[dusty thunder]

Or that

[glossy shore]

huh…I thought there was a duping machine at some portal I went to, but I might’ve been tweaking

[mint cypress]

IIRC killing the ender dragon should give an egg bc of a plug-in the server has

[dusty thunder]

Oh, you mean the obsidian farm?

[glossy shore]

I think so yeah

I had a server with some friends, and I remember making a rail factory that would dupe rails en masse

we made a giant railroad afterwards

[shut bridge]

if the server has the dragon drops datapack, the dragon will drop an egg and elytra if you kill it.

[dusty thunder]

I'm not entirely sure how the obsidian farm works, but I'm pretty sure it's not exactly the same thing as duping. You'd have to ask Stargazing or Shadowtrot about it.

[shut bridge]

Java 1.20.6 running Paper Server with CoreProtect, Dynmap, Spark, BetterSleeping, and No Chat Reports plugins and the ArmorStatues, Coordinates HUD, and Dragon Drops datapacks from Vanilla Tweaks
which it does

[sleek bane]

Ooohh that could be fun! Or her cottage too

[shut bridge]

so yeah, kill the dragon, get dragon egg

[dusty thunder]

Why not both?

[sleek bane]

[shut bridge]

that's honestly a good datapack for servers
keeps people from fighting over the egg
without it, each world can only ever generate ONE single egg naturally

[dusty thunder]

Yup

Still though, it'd be easier for PK's purposes if Rom just gave him an egg. I'm not opposed to fighting the dragon, especially since the farms and stuff are all out of range (and the obsidian farm is made up of blocks that the dragon can't break, afaik), but I don't think PK is ready for it.

[little rampart]

Just go kill the dragon if you want an egg

Oh it wasn't scrolled

Long story short, I'm not giving eggs out

[dusty thunder]

Alrighty

Like I said, I'm not opposed to killing the dragon to get an egg.

[shut bridge]

makes me wonder what kind of super secure vault someone has the egg on 2b2t hidden away in

[mint cypress]

Rom, could you possibly make it so that a Mob head (creeper head, skeleton head, zombie head, piglin head) can be stuff you spawn in and we can buy since its not possible for charged creepers to blow and kill said mobs

[glossy shore]

The egg is worthless there

[little rampart]

I can look into it

[glossy shore]

Remember how they duped thousands of them?

[shut bridge]

no

i don't pay attention to that wasteland

[glossy shore]

well yeah, they duped a shit ton and then just let them get distributed

The egg litters the landscape

[dusty thunder]

I think most of us here don't play on 2b2t, for good reason. It's pretty much the exact opposite of everything Manechat stands for, lol.

[glossy shore]

I don’t play 2b, I just keep up to date on it

[dusty thunder]

It's like the 8chan of Minecraft servers, if Hypixel was the 4chan.

[shut bridge]

there are many things on 2b that if you posted a screenshot if it, we would just outright ban you

[mint cypress]

if you wanna know an item thats actually rare in 2b2t, one of the armor trims is a great candidate
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffMTFW9wMi0

[glossy shore]

You can’t even take a photo of spawn without a hate symbol getting in the way

[shut bridge]

exactly

[glossy shore]

I personally like anarchy servers, I just dislike the bigotry and stupidity that comes with it

sometimes you need rules

[summer scaffold]

2b2t is so fascinating to me

[dusty thunder]

Anyway, I guess I'll be killing the dragon then for a dragon egg at some point. Gonna need a lot of arrows.

[summer scaffold]

truly a lawless wasteland

[glossy shore]

Yeah

it’s rich with history too

[summer scaffold]

it also has a weird amount of histo- yeah lol

[glossy shore]

the server owner is an enigma in of himself

[summer scaffold]

who does own 2b2t ?

[dusty thunder]

The only cool thing about 2b2t, imo, is that someone actually wrote down the entirety of Fallout: Equestria on an extremely long trail of signs. Word by word, chapter by chapter. Even the NSFW chapters were put in a side tunnel with a warning, lol.

[summer scaffold]

i never thought about that

[glossy shore]

Hausemaster

[glossy shore]

SalC1 decided to read the NSFW chapters lmfao

in his video he went in, and then cut to him running OUT saying “NOPE! NOPE! NOPE!”

[dusty thunder]

Lol

[glossy shore]

The bases created on 2b are absolutely amazing

Like the giant Jesus statue, Space Valk 3, etc

[dusty thunder]

They lose some of their amazng factor when you realize that a lot of them were created by duping items and cheating.

[summer scaffold]

is it the Christ the Redeemer statue in Minecraft ?

[glossy shore]

Yes

[summer scaffold]

that's epic

[glossy shore]

But the work is still amazing

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, objectively the completed builds are cool

But they still lose points for cheating. Yes, even on an anarchy server.

[mint cypress]

i like the massive vtuber build they made near spawn

[summer scaffold]

i don't think it matters that they cheated

[glossy shore]

I personally see nothing wrong with duping in those items on an anarchy server, as dupes take time and effort to find and exploit, and people study the game to wring every little advantage they can out of it

Duping is wrong, but on anarchy servers it’s fascinating

The mass quantities of items they have is just awesome lmfao

[mint cypress]

i like how they use furnaces as weapons

[glossy shore]

And with said items they are able to accomplish even bigger feats, like the obsidian art or the massive bases

[glossy shore]

Enchanting tables too

[shut bridge]

furnace
weapon
i'm not even gonna try to comprehend that

[summer scaffold]

they are very creative on 2b2t

[glossy shore]

uses exploits with chunk data being too high, so it essentially bans players who get within range

Not banned literally, there’s just so much data that it prevents the user from joining

[dusty thunder]

The only duping I'll personally accept is TNT duping, and only for the cases of making stuff like tree farms, cobble farms, tunnel borers, perimeters, etc.

Using it for griefing is a nope.

[glossy shore]

TNT duping is amazing

[rich cove]

My favorite is Valhalla

FitMC the 2b2t goat

Haven't watched him in a while tho

[summer scaffold]

oh i know FitMC

yeah me neither

[glossy shore]

it is fun to carpet bomb stuff on creative worlds tho

TNT duping is fun, it brings me back to when I was young and would go around messing with TNT in creative

[flat geode]

Oh, that's what I was going to do for the panda and the frog

[crisp adder]

Just RNG manip

[crisp adder]

mine!

[sleek bane]

https://derpibooru.org/images/3250255?q=Minecraft+ man this pic makes me feel really sad

[flat geode]

Get this pony Minecraft, Full Version, Latest Update right now

[dusty thunder]

Headcanon accepted, with one addition: after joining the Mane 5 to become the new Mane 6, the Mane 5 pitch in to buy Misty a proper, full version of Minecraft with all the bells and whistles, and teach her how to play with all the new stuff.

They have a Realm together.

[little rampart]

You know zipp got a redstone computer going

[dusty thunder]

Hitch is the brave explorer/miner, Sunny is just happily chilling on some dock fishing while her crops grow, Zipp is making redstone farms by the dozen and already has a perimeter, Pipp is building amazing castles and homes for each of them, Izzy is doing whatever the heck she wants and also helps Pipp with a lot of the finer build details (as well as growing flowers and gifting everypony with random items), and Misty is the newbie who's just so happy and excited to play.

Server is on easy mode, although Zipp and Pipp normally play on hard.

[sleek bane]

I'm definitely Misty in this

[little rampart]

I think that makes me izzy

[dusty thunder]

Stargazing is Zipp, Lunar is Sunny, and I'm a mixture of Hitch and Pipp.

[glossy shore]

I’m literally hitch lmfao

I will fuck around in caves for hours

I’m also Izzy when I’m not in the caves

[sleek bane]

Caves kinda scare me a little

[glossy shore]

doesn’t help that they’re absolutely massive now, and nearly impossible to light up

If you want, you could get a mod like Fulbright to aid your exploration, but that’s a bit cheat-y

I use it because I don’t have the patience to light up an entire cave

I also recommend you carry a shield to block damage from mobs, and lots and lots of food and blocks. Maybe a few stacks of cobblestone or dirt, to get you out of a sticky situation

[sleek bane]

There is definitely a cave under my house

[dusty thunder]

If you'd like, I can come over and light it up for you, so that you don't have any mobs spawning beneath your house and so that you don't get any cave noises.

It's likely just a small one.

[sleek bane]

It's up to you, right now I'm trying to decide what I want to work on next

[sleek bane]

If I mine out the tile that a chest is placed on, what will happen?

[mint cypress]

The chest stays

[sleek bane]

Ah okay. I need to replace the flooring in this room

[glossy shore]

Just about everything that’s a full sized block will float. Anvils, gravel and sand, torches, plants, rails, and other such blocks will break

[dusty thunder]

What's a good name for a work shovel, one that is made solely for digging out large portions of dirt with no real need for anything fancy?

[rich cove]

Shovelette

Like a mini shovel

Or a female shovel, if you prefer

[dusty thunder]

An update on my mountain fortress project:

Slowly but surely, the dirt and grass is being removed. It's gonna take a looooong time to do it, but once it's done, I can start doing some cliff face cleanup, and then start creating the back half of the mountain.

I'm not removing all of the grass from the bottom, though. Once the stuff from the cliffs have been removed, I'm gonna start putting in custom amounts at the foot to make it look nicer.

Am I being way too meticulous and overkill with all of this? Probably. I still like doing it though.

[sleek bane]

How do you obtain more food? I'd prefer to avoid killing animals if I can

[glossy shore]

You can till dirt with a hoe to create farmland

Plant wheat seeds, carrots and potatoes (never beetroot), and then place water nearby in a hole

Think of a 9 by 9 space around a single water block as the farmable area

[shut bridge]

There's a chart of all the foods on the wiki
https://minecraft.wiki/w/Food

Without animal slaughter, the best option is either going to be fishing, or crop farming.

[glossy shore]

If you still want to eat animal meat, you can use an axe and jump-hit them to kill them in one hit, ensuring a painless death

[sleek bane]

Thanks

[shut bridge]

If you want an example of a simple crop farm plot, you can look at mine, PK.

[sleek bane]

The animals are too cute to kill

[glossy shore]

I get that lmfao

There’s also melons and pumpkins you can plant, but they grow an entirely different way

Pumpkins are nice for pumpkin pie and jack-o-lanterns, and melons can be used for eating or for potions

[shut bridge]

Oh, PK, do you have a fishing rod?
If you don't, I have a spare very nicely enchanted one you can have.

[sleek bane]

Yeah, gyro gave me one but I don't remember the buff on it

[shut bridge]

I have so many fish
Client side autofisher mod with a LotS 3, Lure 3, Unbreaking 3, Mending fishing rod. It'll just sit there and go forever if i let it.

[dusty thunder]

It was Lure 2, meaning it's less time for the fish to take the bait, and also fewer junk items.

[shut bridge]

I've got a spare LotS 2, Lure 3, Unbreaking 3, Mending rod

[dusty thunder]

Oh yeah, that'd be better, lol

The only upgrade it'd need is LotS 3, but that's it.

[shut bridge]

was the rod i was using until RNJeebus gave me a LotS 3 rod right out of the water

It's in my ender chest. I'll pop on later after work and bring it over

[sleek bane]

Hmmm, there's more to eating than it seems

[glossy shore]

The best foods are golden carrots and cooked steak

the worst is raw chicken and pufferfish

[vocal eagle]

yeah, the different foods have 2 different values -- one hidden "saturation" value and then a visible "hunger" value. The hunger value is how many bars it fills up, and then saturation is how long it takes to start dropping again.

Your best non-resource-intensive foods are cooked meats (steak, mutton, pork especially), cooked salmon, baked potatoes, and bread. I personally tend to go for steak because I'll breed cows and then use a flame sword for slaughter which auto-cooks the steak, or else salmon from fishing.

[sleek bane]

I'll probably stick to potatoes and bread

[vocal eagle]

with practice, you'll learn to recognize (from the sprites) when your potatoes and wheat crops are 100% ready to go. If you harvest them too soon you basically just get your seeds back.

[glossy shore]

Bake your potatoes in a furnace

It’ll fill your hunger up better

[shut bridge]

I use Vanilla Tweaks for that
puts a big floating ❗ above anything that's ready to harvest

[little rampart]

There's a ton of options for food, but the least hassle overall for me, especially as one who doesn't do a lot of combat or running around that loses hunger real fast, is regular-ass carrots. Just plant the carrot in the wet tilled farm plot, and when it's ready, you get like 3 carrots per carrot after you replant it and it's ready to go! No crafting the picked thing into anything else to make it ready for eating, no separate seeds to worry about

The only thing is it only gives 1.5 meats of hunger bar, and the saturation is poor

But you get a ton of them and they're very low maintenance so keeping a stack onhand is super easy

[vocal eagle]

yeah, carrots are very low hassle. No crafting, no baking, just ... carrots. I've had games where I used them as my "regular doin stuff around the base" food, and then swapped them out for steak when I was going to go adventure.

[shut bridge]

Oh yeah, if you're growing potatoes, there's a 2% chance that when you harvest them, you get a poisonous potato.
Don't eat those. They're, uh, poisonous

[little rampart]

I recently switched to fish though since i have a ton of them through fishing, which i do to repair tools

[shut bridge]

I've been living on my potatoes and carrots and fish once the food i brought with me ran out.

[sleek bane]

Hunger and saturation are too much to think about so I'll stick to simple things

[little rampart]

I never even think about saturation

I just eat when the hunger gets below 1.5 meats missing from the bar, whenever and as often as that happens

[dusty thunder]

I tried this, but I ended up hating the exclamation points after a while. The only "fully aged" texture I now use is the kelp one, since that makes the kelp look a bit prettier.

[dusty thunder]

Honestly, baked potatoes are probably your best bet. Golden carrots offer way better saturation, but they're very expensive, especially this early in the game for you. I can start you up on a potato farm later on today if you'd like.

[little rampart]

But you have to cook the potatoes and you get useless poison potatoes with it

[dusty thunder]

Meh, the poison potatoes are rare, and cooking the potatoes isn't so bad.

[little rampart]

And cooking is a pain before you have more coal than you know what to do with

[dusty thunder]

Fine, wheat and bread then.

[little rampart]

Trust me, carrots are all that's needed

[dusty thunder]

Regular carrots are an extremely weak food source though, and they can't heal that much at all.

[little rampart]

Are you expecting much healing to be needed?

[shut bridge]

Coal?
I cook with my campfire

[sleek bane]

Coal shouldn't be a problem, there's a lot of it scattered around the caves near the library

[dusty thunder]

Hopefully not, but eventually it might be.

[little rampart]

Carrots will be fine until he is ready to introduce more steps and preparations into food supplies. He'll just have to eat a bit more often. Which won't be a problem because carrot farming yields a fuckload of them really easily

[dusty thunder]

I suppose

[sleek bane]

It's very likely MC will take a backseat for a while because FFXIV Dawntrail launches on Friday

[little rampart]

Don't worry, ponycraft is a very "come and go" kind of server

[sleek bane]

True but I still wanna play

[crisp adder]

Depending on what you're doing, suspicious stew with saturation, golden apples, or golden carrots are all great foods

And I appreciate carrots for their simplicity in the early game - no crafting, no smelting, and helps jump start villager breeding and get first emeralds. Then I might go on bread diet for a while since that's more effective per emerald.

[shut bridge]

[little rampart]

[civic abyss]

baked taters are good

[grave ravine]

saturation isn't too important to think about while playing, but it's an useful tool to rank different foods that heal the same number of hunger points. Sometimes, food that heals less points but restores more saturation is better than the opposite, unless you're looking for quick healing at low hunger

it's why cooked steak is better than mushroom stew, despite both healing 8 hunger points. (Also, steak stacks, unlike mushroom stew)

if you want something easy to farm and easy to craft, bread is the ol' reliable. It requires a crafting table to be made but no cooking is involved. Most of the time, it's my main food

[sleek bane]

[onyx crow]

If only bread were that easy to make irl. Just take three pieces of wheat and smash them together with your fists

[vocal eagle]

On a workbench

[versed musk]

my impression is that for the average survival player, saturation mostly matters when you want to go on a long trip away from home base, and packing as many hunger points as possible into 1 or 2 inventory slots is important, since saturation affects when you'll start losing hunger again after eating

[elfin heart]

baked potatoes and bread are really good for low-hassle staple food

golden carrots are the best but require a villager trading hall to get lots of. Steak/pork are what most people end up with lategame

[vocal eagle]

steak is also good if you're adventuring and have a flame looting sword because you use up some of your stack of steak and then you just kill a few cows and you're back to full

[dusty thunder]

Problem is, PK isn't exactly your average player. He doesn't like killing the animals.

[vocal eagle]

yeah, if you don't want to kill animals, bread and baked potatoes are the way to go (or fish if you consider fish a separate category)

or, eventually, golden carrots (if you have a really good gold source) for serious adventuring

[dusty thunder]

Fish would be a good meat alternative, I think.

Decent food, decent saturation. Not "the best", but a good middle ground.

Only thing is that you'd need to cook it first.

[rich cove]

What is Maud's favorite thing about Minecraft?

BedROCK Edition

[glossy shore]

she’d love a YouTuber called Gneiss Name

he’s a geologist who analyzed Minecraft’s geology

[glossy shore]

Bedrock is a real thing btw

[rich cove]

i know

[flat geode]

Oh, I've seen a couple of his videos, very high quality stuff

[glossy shore]

He’s great

[plucky trench]

in hindsight, a lot of rough joke <.<

[plucky trench]

...well, I won't going rewrite that entire thing from scratch

[fleet marlin]

Does blue ice make boats go faster than packed ice?

[flat geode]

Yes, it does

[fleet marlin]

Damn

[crisp adder]

72.73 vs 40 blocks/second max speed, so ~80% faster

[dusty thunder]

TIL that the Soul Speed enchantment is not a mutually exclusive enchantment, and that you can wear it with Depth Strider and Feather Falling.

Looks like I'm gonna need to find an unlooted Bastion soon so I can get the Soul Speed books.

[flat geode]

You can trade with Piglins for books I think

It'll take a while, but it's safer

[shut bridge]

I have a few soul speed books somewhere I think. Need one? I'm about to head home from work so I could pop over later and deliver one.

[dusty thunder]

I've only ever gotten Soul Speed boots from them, but I have lots of gold so I guess I can try that instead.

[dusty thunder]

Nah, no need, I can get my own. But thanks! :)

[dusty thunder]

Undeniable proof that Minecraft has never been "Minecraft-y" enough for people: https://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/1dqo13c/12_years_ago_peoples_reaction_to_the_addition_of/

[summer scaffold]

so true lmao

[mint cypress]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AvLOBgF4ZK4

I always think of this

[rich cove]

nooo not mumbo too

[mint cypress]

[rich cove]

lol

[flat geode]

why did he try to build?

[sleek bane]

minecraft is very minecrafty to me

[dusty thunder]

Mhm!

[versed musk]

between MLP and Minecraft, I'm pretty sure this level of extreme change aversion is a symptom of it being people's "first fandom"

[dusty thunder]

(Also, for people who get the wrong impression from the title, he was reviewing the 1.12 update, and he loved it. He was just trolling the people who claimed that the glazed terracotta blocks "ruined" the game.)

[flat geode]

Yeah, I'm fine with whatever they add! (Unless they add circles, I will quit if they add circles)

[dusty thunder]

Don't worry, they won't. That is one of the very few things that Mojang outright refuses to budge on. They managed to budge on automatic crafting (which gives me hope that they may still add furniture and vertical slabs at some point), but they will eternally refuse to add circles.

[flat geode]

Honestly, these are both my first fandoms really, interacting with other people and making content. and I like both the newer MC updates and G5. or maybe I just don't care as much as others

Also this happened while I was typing that lol:

Spellcheck forgot the entire dictionary

[dusty thunder]

It's a bug that happens sometimes. I get it too.

[versed musk]

and this is why programmers need to think about failure modes

if it lost the whole dictionary it should just let every word through

[rich cove]

Next April Fools Update: We added CIRCLES to MINECRAFT!

Crazy Circle Catastrophe!

[versed musk]

that one might be too risky as a joke

[dusty thunder]

April Fools updates get a pass, lol

[little rampart]

The dragon egg is the closest thing to a circle/sphere they have (i think)

[summer scaffold]

i just hope they never add guns

[dusty thunder]

They won't

[summer scaffold]

yeah i think they've specifically said that they never will

[sleek bane]

Add furniture plz

[dusty thunder]

Hehe, it begins!

[shut bridge]

don't worry, the mod authors have you covered
https://modrinth.com/mod/nocubes

[dusty thunder]

But yes, they really should add chairs, tables, dressers, mirrors (they don't need to reflect images, they can just be used to reflect beacon beams or something, or just be decoration), etc.

[dusty thunder]

Oh dear Lord, it's hideous...

[summer scaffold]

yeah i'd like furniture someday

but right now the good old stairs for chairs and fence and pressure plate for table works fine for me lol

[shut bridge]

behold
furniture
https://modrinth.com/datapack/ketkets-furnicraft

[flat geode]

A decoration update would be nice

I don't trust curtains though

[dusty thunder]

Carpet works better for tables, imo. Less clicking noises, and it looks like it has a table cloth.

[mint cypress]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jul0ViWlp0

[flat geode]

Stop with these circles! my eyes!

[vocal eagle]

A big piece of this kind of thing is that you sort of fall in love with a particular version of something, and then other versions aren't that. But the other side of it is, MLP ANG was great, but the first G5 special and the next couple episodes genuinely sucked. And there have been Minecraft updates that were fantastic and others that were like, well, this invalidates everything I've been building, or it adds unnecessary complication, and it could have been done a lot better. I don't wish for some specific past version of Minecraft with no changes, but I do feel frustration sometimes when I play a new update and the new content seems poorly thought out or like it's designed to move the game in a direction I don't like.

[versed musk]

yeah, there's a difference between reasonable criticism of the media's actual faults, and "extreme change aversion"

even as a non-player it feels to me like Minecraft has been lacking in direction for a while, which is maybe okay since the core experience arguably was finished so it's unclear if there's a better strategy than "slightly more of everything we already have", and several of the changes are clear wins anyway

[grave ravine]

this has that weird early 2000s game look with large terrain expanses

https://cdn.mobygames.com/screenshots/16733441-bandits-phoenix-rising-windows-stationary-turret-fun.png

(I low-key love this look, but that's because I grew up with those games)

[fleet marlin]

I love Minecraft mods that are just "I don't wanna play Minecraft"

[versed musk]

I'm so curious which mods you mean by that

[fleet marlin]

I've seen mod packs that make it just a complete different game

[versed musk]

my first thought is most combat/gun mods

[vocal eagle]

Minecraft is fundamentally like digital legos in a cartoony survival-horror setting. Adding more blocks, more things you can make, more types of friendly and enemy monsters, makes sense. But sometimes the changes have felt like "we're trying to make this game feel more like an FPS" or "we're trying to make this game feel more like fortnite" or "we're adding more extreme grindy-type elements to get good resources" and I'm just like ... that feels like playing a mod, not like playing Minecraft

[fleet marlin]

Like, getting rid of the cubes is just
That's what Minecraft is

[little rampart]

I dislike when new blocks or features are locked behind super endgame stuff

[fleet marlin]

I feel like mods that change the fundamental geometry of the game are a case of modders asking if they could instead of if they should

[little rampart]

As a primarily overworld player don't make me have to go trawl the nether and end just to find this nifty lighting block

[fleet marlin]

Mojang please make minecarts faster I really don't wanna have to find an elytra

[little rampart]

What if rocket minecart

[fleet marlin]

I saw someone suggest copper rails

[little rampart]

Yes please add more copper shit i have so much of it sitting around

[fleet marlin]

They'd make minecarts marginally faster, and that would allow them to make regular powered rails make minecarts WAY faster, so the price is worth it

[rigid fog]

once again asking mojang to make copper the crafting ingredient for new techy things

[versed musk]

I'm still not sure why copper exists

[little rampart]

Add a copper tier to tools and armor

[fleet marlin]

What makes more sense
Using copper for a powered rail, or fucking gold

[rigid fog]

also yeah i want minecarts to be viable again, those railway stations back in the day were so cool

[versed musk]

remember when horses were viable

[little rampart]

Nowadays it's all about ice highways on the nether roof

[fleet marlin]

Unless you're in bedrock

Mojang can't add building up there to bedrock because it's technically a glitch, but they can't remove it from Java because the entire community would bitch and whine over it so hard

Same with quasi connectivity

[little rampart]

Well they bitch and whine over everything anyway

[flat geode]

I don't! Mostly...

[sleek bane]

I like Minecraft

[fleet marlin]

I know bedrock has the most actual children but I stg java has the most crybabies
Obviously not all are, y'all are all cool, but Mojang straight up can't do shit because of how many people are like that

[little rampart]

My next task for my skyscraper is either glass-cladding it or nether mining for quartz

[versed musk]

were Bedrock and Java ever meant to converge into one grand unified Minecraft, or was Bedrock always just the everything-but-PC version?

[fleet marlin]

Do you have max fortune on a pick yet?

[little rampart]

I have to cook a ton of sand

I have fortune 3

[flat geode]

nope, I don't think so. They are two separate codebases

[versed musk]

yeah this is probably a factor in the "lacking direction" I mentioned

[rigid fog]

bedrock is written in c++, so i don't think it's possible

[fleet marlin]

Based on current themes I think java is gonna stay around because people would be livid if they ever got rid of java, but Microsoft wants bedrock to be the default

[versed musk]

sorry, I mean Bedrock replacing Java on PC

[fleet marlin]

Also there is bedrock for PC

[versed musk]

oh there is, okay

[fleet marlin]

Formerly Minecraft for Windows 10

[little rampart]

Thankfully brown dye is super easy to get

[fleet marlin]

Supposedly they want to create parody between java and bedrock, but I don't think it's possible

[little rampart]

Parity*

[flat geode]

Hermitcraft on Bedrock feels off...

[versed musk]

bug-for-bug parity is certainly infeasible, but feature parity's probably possible

[fleet marlin]

I'm so far from caring it's almost funny

[versed musk]

what is the gap like these days?

[little rampart]

🍐

[fleet marlin]

It gets wider with every update

[versed musk]

oh so they really aren't trying for that any more

[flat geode]

Bedrock is a parody

they try somethings

[fleet marlin]

If they actually had any intent on making the versions fundamentally the same, they wouldn't introduce more differences than fixes with every update

[flat geode]

like leashable boats

[fleet marlin]

[little rampart]

Remember the furnace minecart?

[flat geode]

It still exists doesn't it?

[fleet marlin]

Don't y'all still have that on java?

[flat geode]

Yeah, I think so

Still pretty useful imo

[fleet marlin]

I think Mr funny pink skin YouTube shorts man made a video on them

[fleet marlin]

Literally how

[flat geode]

Transporting mobs via minecraft

[fleet marlin]

Mobs go in regular minecarts

[flat geode]

furnace minecart pushes them

[fleet marlin]

You can push them, or use power rails

[crisp adder]

implements the entire java error library, and java memory management, for current and future parity of any update suppression feature
At least things like QC is easy - just copy the iron door redstone code to other components

[flat geode]

Powered rails is a hassle for something temp and pushing them would take ages

[fleet marlin]

You have to follow behind to fuel the furnace cart anyways

Is manual pushing that hard in java?

[flat geode]

Not if you fuel it enough

[flat geode]

slopes exist

[fleet marlin]

Oh right they phase right though you on slopes in java

Yeah in bedrock you can push them up hill

[versed musk]

I mean, the idea of having to implement every single feature update in two different codebases for the rest of eternity seems far more insane to me than trying to get Bedrock to Java parity, but if they've never seriously tried to do the latter I guess that's up to them

[flat geode]

oh wow, that is so good, just tested that

[fleet marlin]

I'm pretty sure you can in br

Been a minute since I've had to though, I usually transport mobs via boat and water bucket

[flat geode]

you can push so far too

[crisp adder]

What's so bad about powered rails?

[little rampart]

Part of the problem is when powered un-escorted minecarts go outside the area of loaded chunks

[crisp adder]

Always used them for early game villagers + activator rails and pistons to drop them wherever I want at block-level precision

[fleet marlin]

Break rail, place power rail, power, break powered rail

I can see where they're coming from if it's a temporary temporary thing

[little rampart]

I used powered rails almost exclusively in my subway system

[fleet marlin]

It's funny how difficult it is to transport villagers considering they changed librarian villagers so you have to if you want a trading hall with all enchantments

[versed musk]

yeah, most of the minecart stuff is designed around having a fixed route you use several times, it's not great for one-off anything

[sleek bane]

Tbh the pony mod might actually be proof of a benevolent higher power

[flat geode]

What?

[fleet marlin]

What to what?

[sleek bane]

That's what makes the game for me lol

[flat geode]

this lol

[sleek bane]

All the other issues besides obtuse-ness with recipes don't bother me

[flat geode]

bit confused

[fleet marlin]

There's a common joke online of pointing to something marginally good and saying "this is proof god exists" or pointing to a mild inconvenience and saying "this is proof god doesn't exist"

It's a parody of evangelicals saying anything good under the sun is reason to convert

[flat geode]

hmmm k

[fleet marlin]

"if god exists why did I stub my toe just now" or "the fact that candied apples exist is proof of God for me"

[flat geode]

Honestly, I don't dislike bedrock at all, it's *mostly * the same game

[fleet marlin]

I'm very used to people dogging on bedrock pretty hard, so I get defensive easily since it's my preferred platform

I'm not very into the modding scene, despite starting on java, and prefer the much more streamlined and stable experience of bedrock

[versed musk]

I assume Bedrock gets a lot of flak because it came second, and the kind of people who play(ed) Java are more likely to be aware of and familiar with the version differences in the first place (right?)

[fleet marlin]

A lot of java players think Microsoft is gonna delete java and force bedrock/bring bedrock micro transactions to java

[versed musk]

oh right bedrock has mtx

I mean that's not an unreasonable concern?

though it probably would've happened by now if it was the plan

[flat geode]

rtx?

[versed musk]

mtx = microtransactions

[flat geode]

ah ok

[fleet marlin]

Yeah I can see the concern but, with PC you can always download third party mods, even if the marketplace is added

And skins, and maps

[flat geode]

some of our mods have microtransactions already lol

[fleet marlin]

Hell people have found ways to import skins to bedrock for the Xbox and people still download third party maps on xbox

[versed musk]

I guess the bad timeline would include breaking third party mods but yeah I don't think they'll do that, even if there was money in it it's clearly not worth the PR disaster

[fleet marlin]

The marketplace is just a streamlined version where the creators get paid

[flat geode]

I can agree with that on some things, but then there's also random crap on there as well

[fleet marlin]

Bedrock has a lot of issues, I'll admit that, but it's still my preferred version of the game, and I'll defend it tooth and nail

Even if it did kill legacy

[versed musk]

so what is the bedrock marketplace like? since my exposure to the game is through PC let's plays, I've never even seen it myself

[fleet marlin]

There is a PC version of bedrock, and if you have Java, you can get bedrock for free

[versed musk]

er, PC let's players who've been on Java since the beginning of time

[fleet marlin]

But it's got a homepage with featured and new things (skins, maps, psuedo-mods, and texture packs) along with a search feature with the ability to filter by type, price, name, and time of posting

Oh also rating

There's a rating system but no refunds

[versed musk]

none of the usual gacha sins like multiple virtual currencies, time-gated sales, lootboxes, etc?

[fleet marlin]

There's time gates sales I think

But it's only one premium currency that you don't have to use

You can purchase either with minecoins or with actual money

Minecoins are only acquired via actual money also

[flat geode]

Some free stuff too

[fleet marlin]

Yeah

You can filter by free in the search

Some actually pretty fun maps in the free section, but mostly just educational or crossovers

The Nerf map is free iirc, along with the D&D map

[flat geode]

Hermitcraft Season 9

Unless that was a temp thing

[fleet marlin]

No that's free

I just don't play it cus I don't watch hermit craft

Not much for me other than going "wow they built this in survival?"

Only creator I actively seek to watch is IBXtoycat

[flat geode]

Oh, he's cool

and friends with Grian

[versed musk]

Etho for me

[fleet marlin]

Which is very funny considering Toycat's... Interesting... Building style

[flat geode]

Yeah... I think they did a video together about building once

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeyXunS6XrE

There it is

[shut bridge]

MineCoins

Bedrock

[mint cypress]

[sleek bane]

Barf

[flat geode]

Where the Pringles at?

[fleet marlin]

Yeah we were discussing that earlier

[mint cypress]

There's also that glitch where bedrock players receive random damage bc of client/server conflicts I think
I've seen so many clips of ppl playing Minecraft Bedrock where they're just vibing and then suddenly they die lmao

[fleet marlin]

It's not as common as the clips make them look

[flat geode]

Yeah, I know, but it is still hilarious

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=weJ9ghpYbGI

They are finally working on ||Bundles||

I wonder if this is going to be something sorta like 1.20.5 or 1.16.2

[dusty thunder]

Ngl, I really don't like these Minecraft Monthly videos. They feel so corporate and childish at the same time, and I hate how they keep teasing the feature only to keep "but wait, there's more!"-ing us every three seconds.

They've done so much better videos before.

This one was especially egregious, since bundles are already well-known, and they didn't reveal anything new except that they're being worked on again. That's it. All the teasing for a nothing burger. Would've been better if it was just a tweet.

[flat geode]

Hmmm, yeah, you're right

[summer scaffold]

do you guys know any cool mc maps

[rich cove]

Like adventure maps? I can think of Shrinkcraft and Herobrine's Mansion.

For modern stuff I have no clue

[flat geode]

Mine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve6Grs7ia14 Be-boxed is cool tho

Tho, it's not the most Minecraft like map

[flat geode]

I think they're starting the roll out the Follower's and Purple Heart capes on Java

[rich cove]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F69Zu8FsQZs

[dusty thunder]

That's so cool!

[flat geode]

Why can't I just play java offline?

[zinc epoch]

Just downloaded the horror mod🖕🏻

Wait

Sorry wrong emoji

Fuck

👍🏻

Ignore that😭

Not 2 minutes in and i fell in a hole where 3 monsters where

[dusty thunder]

Hey guys, here's a bit of a "poll" of sorts: I've found some really cool elytra texture packs, but I can't decide between them. All three of them are birds: magpie (dark green and black with white tips), blue jay (blue lol), and a regular jay (blue and black with white and brown). I'd like to call a vote:

🔵 for blue jay
🟤 for jay
⚪ for magpie

[civic abyss]

would you mind shooting me the link, i really like the blue jay

[dusty thunder]

https://www.planetminecraft.com/texture-pack/blue-jay-wings-elytra/

[civic abyss]

thanks!

[dusty thunder]

No problem!

[summer scaffold]

does anyone else ever kind of miss the Legacy Console editions ?

[slate parrot]

Yes

I had so much fun on them

[summer scaffold]

Bedrock edition has lots of pros like version parity with Java but i feel like Legacy ran a lot better

[dusty thunder]

Looks like magpie it is. Thanks guys!

[dusty thunder]

Lol, I'm watching this guy on Youtube stumble through a horror-based modpack called Fear Nightfall, and every morning he's like "alright let's go exploring" and then five minutes later he's like "oh no, this is a bad idea, this way lies madness and death"

[flat geode]

Is there a good horror mod?

[flat geode]

Finally! I wonder if this was my suggestion

Vanilla tweaks is great

[zinc epoch]

Minecraft made her snatched

[flat geode]

I got the capes today!

[dusty thunder]

[glossy shore]

I feel like calling a cape “Purple Heart” could cause issues with a real Purple Heart, but it’s honestly whatever

[dusty thunder]

Why would it?

It's a Minecraft cape. No veteran worth their salt would get mad at it. Nobody wants to get a Purple Heart IRL, not even military members, despite what all the propaganda says.

[summer scaffold]

if you own Minecraft on another computer you don't have to buy it again right

[dusty thunder]

As long as you have a Microsoft account and the launcher installation files, yeah, I'm pretty sure that you don't need to buy it again.

[summer scaffold]

epic

im just wondering cause my steam deck comes tomorrow and i just wanted to know if i would have to buy it again lol

[dusty thunder]

I have no idea how it works with Steam

[summer scaffold]

it's not on steam but you can install it on desktop mode

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRwJ8c4bTpA

Ant has a video about it

[zinc epoch]

I found a cute spawn, its a cherry blossom forest with a village on the side of the mountain, its surrounded by water and snow biomes, it also has a Pillager tower

[dusty thunder]

Are you playing on Bedrock or Java? Because you can take in-game pictures in both without needing a phone.

[glossy shore]

you can also just use your computer or phone’s built in screenshot tool

[zinc epoch]

Im on ps4

One down many..many to go

[dusty thunder]

Ah

[zinc epoch]

Minecraft not adding Cherry blossom villages is one of their most idiotic mistakes

LIKE MOOBLOOMS

BRING BACK MOO BLOOMS

[fleet marlin]

Yeah it's annoying as fuck to get ps screenshots on your phone

[zinc epoch]

I wanna take a vid of what i got so far but i cant hold my phone and walk around😭

I might put it on the market place when im done

[rich cove]

https://youtu.be/3Ij2DD13ooQ?si=ANQ3pH5JtdqSfzNB

[dusty thunder]

Not a huge fan of a lot of the fan-made music discs. There are a couple that are okay, but the rest just don't fit at all.

[flat geode]

Mmmm, yeah, I getcha

Some aren't Minecrafty enough

New or Old style

[dusty thunder]

That said, some people can REALLY nail Minecraft's musical style. This song, for instance, fits so well within the game that I honestly use it alongside the Minecraft soundtrack. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV7oIYk0-DQ

[flat geode]

So good!

[dusty thunder]

This is another good one. In fact, I'd even say that all of the fan-made music made by this person is pretty good: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihCJnLqQ2wA

Then of course there's the entire Minecraft Biome Project playlist, from start to finish: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Th3XSIpUrJg&list=PLtmmDxtpOI9c0k2JG6bR8efWye8E7pKDm&index=1

[rich cove]

I like this one too https://youtu.be/UXR9QgaMbjw?si=x1-1TFyAc_JhmfLQ

Sounds similar to Pigstep's upbeat nature

[dusty thunder]

That one's alright

It still lacks a certain oomph, but it's a little more Minecrafty than some of the other ones I've heard.

[daring narwhal]

I miss c418

i honestly think he is responsible for making one of the greatest video games soundtracks of all time

[zinc epoch]

What the fuck

[little rampart]

got the roof design done, with the quartz and the glass

[zinc epoch]

YOO the seed has a GIANT Warden city under it, with a amethyst ball in the middle

155, -40, 269

[zinc epoch]

It just keeps getting worse

[dusty thunder]

Texture pack?

[rich cove]

This makes me want to hop back into Minecraft and find out how to use creative mode

I wouls spend HOURS in a creative world if I figure out how to do it on Switch. I'll look a video up later maybe

[zinc epoch]

Mod

It adds 20+ monsters

But it doesn’t tell you

Heres one😭

[flat geode]

Rom's doing that in survival, he just has so many materials

I need to creative build again...

[zinc epoch]

I feel like minecraft days have gotten a lot shorter

[flat geode]

Then you're having fun

[zinc epoch]

I just went through the most horrific experience

[zinc epoch]

I was sleeping and WHATEVER it was jumped onto my bed

[zinc epoch]

ALBINO DEER

Yknow what would be cool af

Meteor impacts

GIRAFFES 🦒

LIONS :D.

hehe stupid lil thing

Oh my god it scurries

HOLY SHIT,

[zinc epoch]

I snatched the skeleton horse, His name is Skeller, like stellar

[zinc epoch]

Sigh its so hard to be me when im always cooking

[glossy shore]

suffering from success

[zinc epoch]

Fr

[fleet marlin]

Minceraft

[shut bridge]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/LLzmrwXD6_Y

[glad gale]

https://fxtwitter.com/tackotopia/status/1810680892555485337

[flat geode]

I think the rollout has mostly stopped, 65k should be the general numbers

[zinc epoch]

Im supposed to be building for security cause of the monster mods..but this is just so cute

[zinc epoch]

It just came to bite me in the ass.

I just had the worst jumpscare of my life

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNPmDR61Who

[mint cypress]

the critically acclaimed sequel

[dusty thunder]

Ho-ly f*ck.

A genuine Survive & Thrive tutorial. In 2024.

[summer scaffold]

i remmeber reading stuff from PaulSoaresJr in the Minecraft Essential Handbook

[fleet marlin]

I saw a revised redstone tutorial book at BAM

It had the new copper blocks in it

[terse tartan]

GUYS

FIRST TIME BEATING THE DRAGON LEGIT

[dusty thunder]

GG!

[flat geode]

I should do that sometime...

I have way too many hours to not have done it at this point

[zinc epoch]

What is Microsoft and ps4s beef again

Why wont Microsoft let anyone login into their acc on ps4

[mint cypress]

xbox vs ps

[zinc epoch]

Thats so fucked up, what about people who need their minecraft acc on their ps4😭

[zinc epoch]

Hobbit hole

[zinc epoch]

I wish i caught my reaction on camera but i was trying to take a picture of a gremlin thing and satan appeared

Now lemme go find the gremlin pic

[flat geode]

Both?

[zinc epoch]

The monster killed them😭

They looked like naked cats

I found a vid of them

Look at that lil guy

Then he inflates

[zinc epoch]

I have no idea what this thing is but i love jt

[dusty thunder]

God, it's so painful to watch YouTubers and streamers play Minecraft and miss soooooooo much good loot in the structures they raid, especially in modpacks, and then say that they "think they got everything" when you can clearly see unlooted chests, free shulker boxes, and so many loose shulker shells just lying around waiting to be picked up, not to mention all the gold, diamonds, music discs, and gear that'll never see the light of day.

Like come on, you're killing me here...

And this particular streamer has been playing Minecraft since 2013, he's just really, really clueless, lol.

[grave ravine]

if I had a dollar every time I see someone using suboptimal farming patterns, I'd have at least $100 by now

[summer scaffold]

it's a common thing. i remember it happening to Stampy a lot back in his quest series where he would just straight up walk passed diamonds. i think it's because when recording a video you're mostly in entertainer mode rather than gaming mode so you can easily miss stuff

[dusty thunder]

But there are people who can entertain and focus on the game too. The Hermits from Hermitcraft, for example. Granted, they do occasionally miss stuff, but for the most part they clear things out pretty well while still providing entertainment.

[summer scaffold]

i mean yeah, i'm just saying that for some people it's different

[flat geode]

I'm a YouTuber... wanna infinite money glitch?

[rich cove]

Watch rekrap in his goal to be the number 1 melon farmer world champion lol

You'll be a millionaire

[dusty thunder]

...I just watched this same guy casually open two free shulker boxes for loot in this modpack, and then leave the shulker boxes behind. All the while saying that he needs shulker boxes.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--

[grave ravine]

he's doing it for engagement

the best way to get the right answer is to post the wrong answer 😛

[dusty thunder]

Except that his audience is also clueless

They don't realize that those are shulker boxes

[shut bridge]

[rich cove]

That's Murphy's Law, right?

[dusty thunder]

No, Murphy's Law is "anything that can go wrong will go wrong".

He just did it again!

[rich cove]

Heheheheh

I did it!

You don't even realize you've been fooled!

[rich cove]

Do you realize I did exactly what Calinou said to do?

[dusty thunder]

No I didn't, actually

Nice joke

[summer scaffold]

i got mc working on my Steam Deck :3

happy happy happy

it won't save my password on the launcher though for some reason

strange