Minecraft

[minor moss]

I think I broke it

[shut bridge]

there's a free Twitch drop cape right now too

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, I claimed it already, but now I have to wait for it come to Java. It's only for Bedrock so far, but there's reports saying that it'll come to Java too.

Not getting the Tik Tok one though

[shut bridge]

they can keep the tiktok cape
i ain't installing that spyware just for a cape

[dusty thunder]

Same

Also kinda funny how it's right on the heels of a potential nation-wide Tik Tok ban in the US this year, lol.

I guess it's Mojang hedging their bets on either A) getting the cape out now before the ban so they get as much game promotion as possible, or B) if the ban is thrown out, then all is well.

[mint cypress]

wait u have to have a tiktok/twitch account to have those capes
wtf

[dusty thunder]

The Twitch one isn't so bad. You just have to have an account, login, watch a Minecraft-related stream for fifteen minutes (it can be anyone, and it can run muted in the background if you want), and then you get a code to redeem the cape.

[flat geode]

I did a little stream yesterday and it got someone a cape 🙂

[dusty thunder]

I have no idea how to get the Tik Tok one, and I don't care about that one anyway.

All kinds of games are doing the same sort of thing these days. Even Baldurs Gate 3 did it.

[flat geode]

It's about the same thing, watch a Minecraft TikTok Livestream, anyone really, for about 3 minutes and type Minecraft in chat

Tho it's mobile only

[minor moss]

The TikTok rewards weren't available in my country, so I had to use a VPN

[flat geode]

The cape is pretty good, but the elytra texture is the worst I've ever seen

The texture for anyone who doesn't know

[grave ravine]

wow, is that the first time Minecraft is directly on sale?

it's still a lot more expensive than it used to be at its regular price though, I remember when it was "just" €26

[minor moss]

They did do sales during the 10th anniversary in 2019

[grave ravine]

Minecraft is one of those games that have historically never been on sale, its price only went up

oh right

[minor moss]

I think that's how I got Minecraft on Switch

[grave ravine]

mobile version for €2.19 is interesting, especially since there are ways to play it on desktop Linux (which is the only way to play Bedrock on Linux)

[minor moss]

I finally have Minecraft for Android phone, for the children

[grave ravine]

although Pojav is still a better experience in my book as you can cross-play on Java servers with it

anyway, I bought it

[flat geode]

For people who want the cape, but don't want to instal TikTok, they are doing some giveaways in the Minecraft Discord

Though you do have to answer some questions quickly

Example:

[flat geode]

Back to the Swamps, with a coastal mangrove tree

[rich cove]

Henwy (friend of Ssundee and Co) has been hacked! Spread the word!

[dusty thunder]

Pretty sure this isn't a good place for spreading any kind of word regarding big-name Minecraft youtubers. Aside from Hermitcraft, nobody here really watches Minecraft Youtubers, I'm fairly certain.

[flat geode]

I watch Minecraft YouTubers like SuperGaming, he's awesome and cool and a total inspiration

I might know him personally as well

[dusty thunder]

Not sure who SuperGaming is, just looked him up and I only find channels that have 100 subs or so.

[flat geode]

It's me 😦

[dusty thunder]

Oh

[flat geode]

Still irrelevant lol

[dusty thunder]

hugs

Not to us

[flat geode]

Thanks 🙂

[mint cypress]

the only Minecraft youtubers i watch are Hermitcraft and Hololive

[flat geode]

Tbf same, tho I do watch some news ones like Ibxtoycat and Wattles sometimes tho Xisuma covers that base as well

[dusty thunder]

Xisuma often does it better

But you want to know a fun fact? I was around watching fWhip when he was still under 10K subs. Now he's well beyond 1.6 million.

[mint cypress]

i also get my minecraft news from axe eye zoomer void
the only other guy who does mc news that im aware of is sliced slime

*sliced Lime

[flat geode]

Oh, I started watching him as well for that tech stuff

He might be knowledgeable enough for it

[dusty thunder]

Slicedlime is a Mojang dev too, so his news stuff is often more detailed than Xisuma's (although I prefer Xisuma's personality, Slicedlime is just very flat in his delivery).

[flat geode]

He's the tech lead even lol

[dusty thunder]

Gnembon is also a Mojang dev, hired straight from the tech community.

[flat geode]

I was actually watching Slicedlime's Advance Map Making Tutorial series, despite it being for 1.9. It still helped a lot! After I upgraded the syntax like 2-3 times

[dusty thunder]

He got hired around 1.14 or 1.15, iirc

And Gnembon got hired around 1.18

[dusty thunder]

Oooo, I love that. The added fences really help make it look more woodsy, along with the moss.

Excellent detail work

[flat geode]

Oh wow...

[cloud spear]

I guess mods have been added to Bedrock. https://youtu.be/x6te6xHD6ZE

[flat geode]

They were a while ago, but a new trailer is cool

Oh wow, that's neat

[flat geode]

Somehow this guy got the Twitch cape early on Java... Weird...

[flat geode]

Some facts in the Minecraft/Realms Anniversary map

[fleet marlin]

How how many slots does the average hotbar have

[summer scaffold]

9

[dusty thunder]

Methinks your game is bugged.

[fleet marlin]

No fucking way

[civic abyss]

well, not too surprised

[dusty thunder]

Of course it's by LogDotZip...

[flat geode]

This is something...

I'm falling into the trap of Bedrock lol

They have a Glimmy one

[fleet marlin]

Wow it's not even subtle

[flat geode]

Well...

[vocal eagle]

too bad there's not a coral reef there

[flat geode]

What? Have they run out of good stuff already?

[glossy shore]

chilling

[flat geode]

Oh, this actually sounds cool

[summer scaffold]

waow Stampy is working with 4J Studios on a brand new game

[rich cove]

nice!

I need to rewatch Lovely World from start to finish...

I have his little interactive book thingy too heh

[grave ravine]

I remember when 4J Studios made Perfect Dark XBLA, not long before the first Minecraft console port

when GoldenEye XBLA leaked, I think people realized PD XBLA wasn't as good as it seemed like at first

(it has many issues, such as overly large stick deadzones, bad-looking multiplayer maps, really bad netcode, etc. Oh, and you can't toggle back to the original visuals with one button like you can in GE)

believe it or not, GoldenEye XBLA online plays miles better than PD XBLA online when you play it through Xenia + system link

[flat geode]

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/mcc-x-minecraft

This is actually cool. MCC has some of the most fun minigames ever

[grave ravine]

I remember when "FIX MCC" was written on /r/place in 2017

[flat geode]

The first MCC was in 2019...

[dusty thunder]

Must've meant something else then

[grave ravine]

it was the Master Chief Collection

[flat geode]

Oh my...

In only 3 days! It's now my most viewed video

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REC8iW1MxPk

A YouTube Upload this time

[flat geode]

Man... Rendering shader shots with replay mod takes forever

[crisp adder]

How many frames / what resolution is the recording? And what shaders are you using?

[flat geode]

Well it is 4k at 60fps, shader side I'm using VanillaPlus

[flat geode]

It's a minute long loop of this

I tried AA at x8 for whatever reason at the default resolution and the game almost instantly crashed because it didn't have enough ram

https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-national-park

They also have a build challenge for the central monument

[dusty thunder]

[dusty thunder]

This looks so cool!

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLlx7Nq7PPc

The Build with shaders and 4k (I think...) It's meant to be a companion video to another one I'm releasing tomorrow (But this one took all day to make, so it's postponed), but it's done now for y'all to enjoy a day early. Y'alls support and feedback definitely helped with this project

[dusty thunder]

It looks fantastic!

It reminds me so much of Channelwood from Myst

[summer scaffold]

that Ender Pearl one is so good

[vocal eagle]

still need to have "can put horses in boats" if they haven't done that yet.

[crisp adder]

Might break fast travel to/from the world border though, iirc one method involves pearling into portal to 8x or 0.125x your position

[dusty thunder]

Not entirely. Pretty sure Docm was able to do it without pearling.

[glossy shore]

messed around with a mod

i'm literally maverick

[flat geode]

Have they said any release date yet? Or are we just going to be surprised?

[dusty thunder]

No release date yet, but I'm guessing it'll be early-to-mid June.

[flat geode]

Here it is, Day 15: the final day

Full Article: https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/minecraft-experience-villager-rescue

[summer scaffold]

:0

[flat geode]

Just a reminder, today is the last day for the three free capes

[shut bridge]

not quite
the Twitch cape runs until the 31st
and the Tiktok cape until June 18th
https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/article/anniversary-stream-rewards

[dusty thunder]

I thought the Twitch cape was going to be available for Java too, not just Bedrock?

[flat geode]

They will be by July 8th they said

For some reason...

Tho one guy has it on Java already so idk

It's not even a dev, just a random guy

[dusty thunder]

Sometimes they give the capes out early to the designers of the capes, even if they aren't devs. Maybe this was originally an Optifine cape and Mojang said "Hey, mind if we use your design and then give you this cape permanently? It's perfect."

(I'm just guessing. Otherwise it's probably a glitch in the system.)

[glossy shore]

daaamn

[grave ravine]

maybe a beta tester/QA

or the cape's designer as GT said, as an early gift

[glossy shore]

broke the sound barrier lmfao

[mint cypress]

ok but can you travel light speed ??

[glossy shore]

I came nowhere close

best I got was like 1600 kmh

[flat geode]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIFJ5c8laPg

The release date: ||JUNE 13TH!!!!||

OMG... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVfYxIV0vOQ

[sleek bane]

[flat geode]

It's about time

[little rampart]

I thought it was about minecraft

[grave ravine]

I remember when Minecraft series were just parodies on YouTube. 👀

[sleek bane]

Well I hope it's good for MC fans

[dusty thunder]

Finally! It's about time they took advantage of animated Minecraft.

[rigid fog]

whaaaaaa

so they're making this and that live action movie

at least a lot of our desires for some animated minecraft were sated

[onyx crow]

I'm most curious what the story could possibly be on a Minecraft series. Minecraft has a lot of lore to it, but it never tried to tell much a concrete story

[dusty thunder]

It might be a slice-of-life series that'll develop its own lore.

Or maybe it'll do something akin to Dungeons

I wonder who's animating it?

[rough dirge]

Me

[onyx crow]

single-handedly

[dusty thunder]

I hope it's on the level of polish and quality of Squared Media's animations. Their animations are beautiful.

Just as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzNz2eOoNi4

[summer scaffold]

i was thinking Element Animation considering how much they've collaborated with Mojang

[dusty thunder]

Probably, but they're still indie. I don't think they could do something at this scale, multiple episodes 10-20 minutes long.

But yeah, they have good quality too

[mint cypress]

something like BlueMonkey's minecraft animations style i wouldnt mind either

[dusty thunder]

Does BlueMonkey even still do Minecraft content? I haven't heard from them in years

Huh, so they do.

Well, sort of. Last one was a year ago.

In any case, it's not gonna be their style. The teaser for the Netflix series had a style more similar to Squared Media.

[flat geode]

They fixed the end crystals lol

[dusty thunder]

They weren't immune to fire damage?

[flat geode]

For some reason... If you placed them in the end, they would insta explode

I might've been them messing with the Data Packs every 5 seconds

[flat geode]

I've been waiting Mr. Lime...

[dusty thunder]

Oh hey, you're the first view

I remember when he only had like 20K subs

Hell, I remember when fWhip had 2.2K subs (he has over 1.6 million now).

[flat geode]

Even though I watched Xisumas video, there are things that he did skip that slicedlime doesn't

Like when carrot/fungus on a stick break, it now gives you a full fishing rod back

[dusty thunder]

Oooo, that's a good change

[mint cypress]

1 view - 4 likes
i cant beleive slicedlime is using bots

[barren nacelle]

anyone play BTA

its a fork of Beta 1.7.3 to expand upon beta mc

[flat geode]

Oh, Better then Beta

I haven't tried it yet

I'd def want to check it out soon

[barren nacelle]

bettee than adventure is the one im talking abt

[flat geode]

Oh mb

[barren nacelle]

i have an old server i can put up :)

[flat geode]

Oh cool, I guess I didn't have anything today anyways

Tho i'm in the middle of a game show rn

[barren nacelle]

let me send u my instance later, u just use multimc for itt

its a very different mc experience

but also really familiar

it feels more MC than modern versions ig

[flat geode]

Makes sense

[barren nacelle]

dying is a lot easierr, its a harder game

u can only carry limited heals cus no stackable food

except cookies a rare dungeon reward

and mushroom stew is super powerful

the aether is in development rn

[flat geode]

Adding the aether too?

[barren nacelle]

yep!

glowstone and water

[flat geode]

Neato

[barren nacelle]

theres 4 seasons the world cycles between

in winter theres almost no animal spawns, higher mob spawns

and fresh water freezes

crops also stop growing i think

[flat geode]

Does it work on CurseForge? I don't have MultiMC rn

[barren nacelle]

no u need multimc

its not a mod

its a mc version

[flat geode]

Alright, I'll see about setting it up then

[barren nacelle]

its like an official release

[flat geode]

Oh, that was easier then I thought

[barren nacelle]

yep

[grave ravine]

you should probably use PrismLauncher over MultiMC or PolyMC nowadays

it's essentially better in every way I can think of

[barren nacelle]

multimc works best for bta

its designed for it

plus other instances too

[flat geode]

That's what I thought anyways

[flat geode]

Could you send it over so I can test it?

[barren nacelle]

oh yea i can dm

[sleek bane]

I might try to play some more tonight

[flat geode]

How are you enjoying it so far?

[sleek bane]

Well I haven't done much yet

But I think I'm enjoying it so far

[flat geode]

Awesome

[sleek bane]

The music and color palette is really nice

[flat geode]

Just don't overthink anything in these early stages

[sleek bane]

That's my problem

[flat geode]

How come?

[sleek bane]

I always overthink things

[flat geode]

Well, Minecraft is simple until you turn it complex. If you're fine with a bit of complexity then go right ahead.

[sleek bane]

I prefer simple

I overthink then end up stuck and frustrated

[glossy shore]

just take it slow

have a look into some caves

learn the crafting recipes

[sleek bane]

I need to look at the recipe book some more. That's where I got stuck

[glossy shore]

https://minecraft.wiki/
This will help you a lot

if you ever need anything (and we aren't available), go here

you'll also learn a lot about minecraft as a game

[sleek bane]

Thanks. Maybe I'll check the wiki later

Knowing about crafting tables now helps some

[glossy shore]

the place has every crafting recipe imaginable

[sleek bane]

I need to better understand the crafting UI

It's not very intuitive

[minor moss]

You can enable the knowledge book, to easily see what you can craft

[sleek bane]

What's that?

[glossy shore]

the little green book

[shut bridge]

the left half

[sleek bane]

Oh that's what I've been using

It's still a bit tricky

[shut bridge]

you can technically craft anything in the game right from the beginning if you already know the recipes
but new crafting recipes will unlock in the book from either holding new items, or doing things like touching water (which unlocks boats)

[sleek bane]

That was the first thing I did by accident @ b oats

I don't really know how to read the crafting book though

The tabs on the left aren't labeled and I had a hard time really understanding what it was I was looking at

[shut bridge]

the wiki page for the recipe book might help
https://minecraft.wiki/w/Recipe_book

[sleek bane]

Thanks

I wish I had played it more over the weekend

I remember not fully understanding where to proceed from here. I was looking at the recipe book and I wasn't able to follow its logic or progression, after I had made a few things

[shut bridge]

the whole recipe book is a bit superfluous to long time players who already know how to make everything, but it is helpful to new players still learning crafting things

[flat geode]

The achievements might also help with progression

I think the default key for that is "L"

[sleek bane]

Oh yeah I also noticed my hunger didn't seem to change at all while I was playing. Is that normal?

[shut bridge]

certain things make it go down faster than others
for the amount of time you were on, that's normal

[sleek bane]

Ah I see. I expected it to move even a little

[crisp adder]

Hunger doesn't go down if you walk (without sprinting)

[sleek bane]

Ah I see

[vocal eagle]

there's a second secret hunger meter called "saturation" as well. You use up saturation first, and then the visible hunger meter. Certain foods have higher saturation than others, so for example, if you eat steak or a pork chop your hunger meter will go for much longer before it starts to drop than if you eat cookies to cover the same amount of hunger.

[sleek bane]

I see

[vocal eagle]

and then only certain actions use up hunger (or saturation). Running, jumping, attacking, breaking blocks, taking damage, and regaining health are the most common ones. If you're walking on flat ground, you don't use up hunger at all.

[sleek bane]

That might explain it then

[crisp adder]

You (re-)spawn with 6 saturation, which should cover the limited amount of movement done on the server.

[vocal eagle]

I find that, normally, I can do an initial daytime worth of gathering wood and maybe killing a couple animals for food and then starting a mine before I even start to see my hunger change

[sleek bane]

The only thing I've really done is beat up a tree, equip a bunch of stuff, and followed Rom to the barracks

[shut bridge]

I added a client mod that shows your saturation value
I got too used to it being visible from playing mod packs

[flat geode]

Same tbh

[crisp adder]

Appleskin?

[sleek bane]

What happens if you die

[flat geode]

That's the one I use

[shut bridge]

yeah, appleskin

[crisp adder]

You drop all your items, lose experience levels (the green bar), and you spawn at the bed you last slept in (or the world spawn if you haven't slept yet)
Edit: Newer versions means that right clicking a bed sets your spawn, not necessary to sleep

[shut bridge]

you drop all of your things and respawn either at a bed if you set your respawn point there, or the world spawn

[sleek bane]

TIL MC has EXP

[flat geode]

Used for enchanting

[shut bridge]

yeah you need it for Enchanting tools/armor/weapons

[sleek bane]

I should probably sleep somewhere then

We walked a lot and I picked a room but don't have anything in it

[shut bridge]

appleskin works best when the server has the plugin too
but it will still work client side without it, which is nice

[shut bridge]

we've all got plenty of stuff to spare
we can get you settled with a bed and chests and whatnot

[sleek bane]

I should probably craft some stuff

I haven't really done that yet besides making a few sticks

[shut bridge]

well a good place to start is learning the basics that you'll always need
bed, chest, furnace, armor, pick/shovel/axe/sword, torches, etc

[flat geode]

That's an interesting hotbar loadout

[shut bridge]

not all hotbar items
but the basics just for existing in MC
even a starter dirt hut needs a bed, chest, and furnace to get you started

[sleek bane]

Yeah I can see this being really aimless and tough without help

[crisp adder]

and a crafting table

[shut bridge]

eager for 1.21
it's gonna revolutionize crafting with the Crafter block
i can see the automated crafting farms and storage systems now

[glossy shore]

just gotta update the mods

gonna be waiting like 5 months for these devs to finish the 1.21 versions

[vocal eagle]

my hotbar order is:
sword bow pick shovel variable fire-potion water-bucket buildingblock food

I carry torches in my off hand, unless I'm mapping in which case I carry a map. Buildingblock is often cobble or whatever other "throwaway" block I have to do things like climb up an edge or make a quick bridge. The variable will often be a tool (like a second pick with a different enchantment if I'm mining, an axe, a fishing rod, etc.)

I also carry at least half a stack each of wood, coal, and a few iron or diamonds to make/repair tools.

[shut bridge]

i fear that a lot of mods won't update past 1.20.4
since 1.20.5 made the jump from Java 17 to Java 21
any mods for 1.20.5 and beyond have to be updated to Java 21
and some mods authors may just not bother

[glossy shore]

my hotbar order is
sword, pick, axe, shovel, bow, rockets, blocks, torches, food

[vocal eagle]

my main reason for the bucket and potion is that they're life savers in certain situations. I very rarely die in Minecraft.

[glossy shore]

i should carry a bucket

[shut bridge]

there was also a huge data pack restructure in 1.20.5 as well
so a lot of data packs may never move past 1.20.4

[glossy shore]

i'm surprised there are loads of mods for 1.20.6

[shut bridge]

some mod authors might just wait for 1.21 to update their mods and never bother with 1.20.6
we'll have to wait and see

[sleek bane]

I don't like how my character looks

[glossy shore]

go to the minecraft launcher

click "skins"

and then you can import a skin file

you can download skin files on a site like The Skindex

[sleek bane]

I think I'd rather do the pony skin mod

[glossy shore]

ah

https://minelittlepony-mod.com/

mods are a whole other thing btw

[sleek bane]

Thank you

I like the colors and vibe but like

MC has such a weird style

[glossy shore]

there are texture packs

but most remain true to the original, vanilla style

[sleek bane]

I can't decide if I like it or not

[shut bridge]

people get so mad when I say that I used to play with Sphax/PureBDcraft
that is definitely a very love it/hate it texture pack

[glossy shore]

purebdcraft is too garish for me

this has got to be one of the best texture pack makers in minecraft
https://vanillatweaks.net/picker/resource-packs/

[shut bridge]

there's the pony texture pack
https://love-tolerance.com/

[glossy shore]

i couldn't

it's too simple

and too saturated imo

[flat geode]

I love it, use it all the time

[crisp adder]

I always use this when playing w/ pony mods

[flat geode]

Unless I'm recording a vid lol

[glossy shore]

vanilla tweaks is my go-to texture pack

xisumavoid helped with it

[flat geode]

I use that whenever I don't use L&T

[sleek bane]

Hmmm....

Man now I wanna play but I'm at work

:(

[flat geode]

I just hope to make the game my work

[shut bridge]

perfect

[glossy shore]

BAWK BAWK BAWK

I kill chickens on sight

[shut bridge]

sweet celestia's royal asscheecks chickens are loud

[glossy shore]

that is a sentence

[sleek bane]

I feel a bit melancholic as I think about it, like I'm 15 years too late

[flat geode]

Honestly, I only started playing in 2018 and I've missed quite a lot, but that doesn't change the fact that I still love the game

[glossy shore]

I started back in 2017

[flat geode]

Same goes for liking MLP, I didn't even join the fandom until 2022, but I still enjoy the show

[glossy shore]

would just watching the show count as being a part of the fandom

I say no

[flat geode]

I started watching back in 2016-2018, I fully joined the Fandom in late 2022

[glossy shore]

I think I started watching around the end of season 3

cuz I remember S4 coming out right as I started

joined the fandom in fall 2023

[crisp adder]

Reminder to grind the fluffing out of raid farms before they don't work anymore

[mint cypress]

Where are the raid farms?

[summer scaffold]

i dont really use texture packs very much

[sleek bane]

I've been with MLp since S1

[little rampart]

I don't use a texture pack, but i do use shaders

[flat geode]

Shaders are fun if you have a decent PC

[little rampart]

We got GT up and running over the weekend

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, it took me a few days to fix my mod issues, figure out the crashes, and also discover some new quirks with my computer, but I think I can safely say that I'm finally good to go again. Already bulldozing the upper portions of my mountain to flatten the top of it out.

Naturally, I'll have to do it all over again once 1.21 releases, lol

Although I think the server won't update until we first have all or most of the mods updated.

[grave ravine]

walking does use some saturation IIRC, but it's literally 10x less than sprinting

(it's measured over distance, not time)

so yeah, if food is rare, don't sprint, only jump when needed (or place slabs/ladders without breaking them... )

placing blocks does not use saturation, only breaking them. The time it takes for breaking a block doesn't impact how much saturation you lose, so harvesting crops/grass manually will use up a lot of saturation. You can use a water bucket for that

[vocal eagle]

that said, once you have a good food source it stops mattering much at all

I'll often make a fishing rod with my first couple bits of string and then hope I fish out another fishing rod, and cook loads of fish on a campfire. I can just stand there not using saturation/hunger and build up a nice pile of food (and some random trash, and often enchanted bows and such too)

[little rampart]

I usually carry around a stack of carrots

[flat geode]

Yeah, I'm too poor for golden carrots 😦

[little rampart]

No just regular ones

Easy to multiply, doesn't require extra materials or steps to process

[flat geode]

Yeah I know

[little rampart]

I plant carrot in ground, i get carrots out after a bit

[flat geode]

I just don't have the gold (or diamonds to spend) to get them on Ponycraft

[little rampart]

No gold, no cooking, no crafting

[barren nacelle]

i still think hunger was a mistake

and steak should never been so op

or stackable

[summer scaffold]

wha

steak is not that good compared to other food items

[barren nacelle]

steak is so overpowered

[summer scaffold]

not really

it has some pretty middling saturation compared to something like golden carrots or even some cooked fish

[barren nacelle]

i prefer beta mc

hunger was pointless

[dusty thunder]

I use gold carrots. I tend to mine out a TON of Nether gold ore, so I just use the nuggets for golden carrots.

[barren nacelle]

mushroom stew got ruined when steak became stackable

it shouldn't stack to 64

[dusty thunder]

There's no reason for why it doesn't

[summer scaffold]

gold carrots are usually my goto as well, cooked porkchop is usually my early game food item

[dusty thunder]

It's leftover from a time when food didn't stack

[barren nacelle]

the balance in alpha/beta mc is that only certain food items could stack

mushroom stew and cookies

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, but not in modern Minecraft

[barren nacelle]

the game was balanced around that

in modern mc they threw out balancing

cus they didnt care

[dusty thunder]

There's no reason why the mushroom/rabbit/beetroot stews can't stack.

I can understand suspicious stews not stacking because those have different effects

But the others are the exact same item.

[barren nacelle]

they just dont care

saddest truth for me

[dusty thunder]

That's not true, they do care, they just are a bit...slow.

Very slow

[barren nacelle]

to make stew stackable takes 2 seconds

[summer scaffold]

yeah Mojang doesn't care about the game they update every year for free since 2011

[barren nacelle]

theyve left minecarts to suffer

us minecart enjoyers

literally the pool skeleton meme

[summer scaffold]

idk what you mean about minecarts lol

[barren nacelle]

theyre useless

thats the joke

mojang hasnt buffed them once

[dusty thunder]

They haven't been updated in years

[dusty thunder]

Nope. Minecart hoppers and chest minecarts are very useful.

[barren nacelle]

for all the investment u get little back

[barren nacelle]

mostly replaced by boats

[dusty thunder]

And regular minecarts are often used for mob farms

[barren nacelle]

not much anymore

most designs dont use them

newer ones

[dusty thunder]

And TNT minecarts have bigger explosions than regular TNT, making them excellent for PvP landmine traps and also great for blast mining

[barren nacelle]

Notch made it known that not adding proper automation (prob with furnance minecart) was one of his biggest regrets

[dusty thunder]

Furnace minecarts I concede are useless, especially since powered rails exist.

They're whimsical, but useless.

[summer scaffold]

i do not care what Notch has to say in the year of our lord 2024

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, that too

Notch hasn't been relevant since 2014. Get over him and his ideas.

He was against slabs and stairs, for God's sake.

He hated them

[summer scaffold]

he was ????

[barren nacelle]

i want overworld dragons still

🙄

[barren nacelle]

they should function like factorio locomotives

where u can register stations

and made an order

[dusty thunder]

We all still do, but until that day eventually, inevitably comes, we do with what we have.

[summer scaffold]

i wonder whatever happened to that new combat style Jeb was working on a while ago

mayb just got busy with other things

[sleek bane]

Goodness I want to go home

[barren nacelle]

i wanna go hooomee

[sleek bane]

Thanks YT algorithm

[vocal eagle]

back in MC beta you also only used food to heal, and not for "hunger" as such

[barren nacelle]

until the dark ages

The adventure update

i will say caves and cliffs has some really pretty caves

but i really dislike how little variety the surface terrain has

[vocal eagle]

adventure update was a good update in most, but not all, ways

[barren nacelle]

the structures are iconic and i love mineshafts but theres a lot of problems

[flat geode]

I think Caves and Cliffs was a needed update, though it does make it harder to build cause all of the surfaces aren't as flat anymore

[grave ravine]

the combat tests weren't very well-received IIRC, so they are on indefinite hold

[flat geode]

I thought he was working with the community to fix that?

[barren nacelle]

they removed flat terrain :/

everything is so mountainous

it makes mountains boring

theres still 0 terraforming tools

[little rampart]

Wdym

[summer scaffold]

? plains still exist lmao

[little rampart]

You got shovels and picks

[flat geode]

Yeah, plains are still pretty flat

[barren nacelle]

they arent flat

theyre super mountainy now

cus of caves and cliffs

[summer scaffold]

what

[flat geode]

They seem flat enough

[barren nacelle]

this is waht they look like

so ugly

[little rampart]

That's beautiful

[barren nacelle]

theyre covered in giant mountains

[flat geode]

It's still flat

[little rampart]

Yeah

[summer scaffold]

this is not what all plains look like 😭

[barren nacelle]

this is what plains are meant to be

[little rampart]

I think that's kinda ugly

[flat geode]

They look the same kinda

[barren nacelle]

cus plains are flat.

plains dont have giant mountains in them

thats stupid

[summer scaffold]

are you trolling

[flat geode]

Not all plains are the same though

[barren nacelle]

theyre based off european plains

the mc ones

[barren nacelle]

ive spent 2 months twrraforming

i got so exhausted i gave up the build

[flat geode]

Months?

[barren nacelle]

MC has become unplayable for building in survival depending on ur preferences

YES

[little rampart]

LOL

[barren nacelle]

the new terrain

[little rampart]

LMAO

[barren nacelle]

its so high up in y its insane

it was like y 80

y 90

[flat geode]

Well, like you said, it's preference

[barren nacelle]

and the game is unplayable now to me

outside of mods or alpha/beta

theres mods that fix the gen

[flat geode]

Yeah, that's good

[barren nacelle]

what i use if i ever play modern

and it has realistic mountains

not the ugly cave and cliffs ones

[flat geode]

They do look nice

[barren nacelle]

its just what I prefer

i prefer cube worlds gen over mc

i still think mc needs a surface terrain update

[barren nacelle]

have u seen whats happened to villages because of caves and cliffs?

theyre always so deformed now

way more than in the past

[flat geode]

I guess you're right

[barren nacelle]

most villages i find

end up like this now

i usually spend a lot of time cleaning them up if i wanna base by one

[crisp adder]

Normal walking does not: https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Hunger#Exhaustion_level_increase

[flat geode]

Honestly in all fairness, Minecraft isn't supposed to be a realistic game

[barren nacelle]

https://www.pcgamer.com/minecraft-villages-are-having-an-existential-crisis-in-118/

[barren nacelle]

well since Mojang cares for realism so much..

fireflies

[flat geode]

Ok, the fireflies was a dumb thing

[barren nacelle]

they also wont add Sharks for 0 good reasons either

BUT theyll add dolphins

what?

[flat geode]

They don't want people to go touch a shark

[barren nacelle]

???

makes 0 sense

[summer scaffold]

did you know sharks are smooth

[barren nacelle]

theres really no reason not to have sharks

itd actually be educational

[flat geode]

Tons of young people play the game, they don't know better

[crisp adder]

TNT duping? Movable wither cages?

[flat geode]

Something more tame lol, not a nuke

[barren nacelle]

game also features

village slavery
tnt terrorism
murdering children
poisonous frogs
wolves
poisonous shrooms```

that argument doesnt work when wolves exist

[flat geode]

That was before they changed their minds

[barren nacelle]

Oh and Factory Farming

that too

[crisp adder]

Control the amount of tnt being duped

[barren nacelle]

the game actively encourages factory farming

[flat geode]

And it's not featured, it's just something you can do

[barren nacelle]

and ur telling me we cant have sharks

🙄

mojang stinky

[flat geode]

It's not their fault most of the time, It's Microsoft

[barren nacelle]

Minecraft deserves better!

its my childhood game i hate it being mistreated like this

[flat geode]

Well fighting about it here isn't going to do much good

[barren nacelle]

ill still love mincecraft

[flat geode]

Is that another fork project?

[barren nacelle]

famous mc easteregg

[flat geode]

Oh right

[barren nacelle]

randomly when u launch the game itll pop up with mincecraft

lol

they never removed it i dont think

[barren nacelle]

i got the BTA server up ^^

fully updated i think

[flat geode]

Awesome

[barren nacelle]

spawn area kind of

stinks

[flat geode]

oof

what biome?

[barren nacelle]

eh... join and see

look at that spawn

[flat geode]

Jeez

[barren nacelle]

oh yea what terrain type do u prefer
theres OG beta and BTA gen

no missing content either way

[flat geode]

BTA is fine

[barren nacelle]

alrighty

it should be up

one of my fav features is the music doesnt end when u leave a world

underrated

[vocal eagle]

wait is the spawn there on the little sand island?

[barren nacelle]

yes

BTA

@flat geode ok sorry last time it should be up now for good

[summer scaffold]

oh yeah i played a little BTA

it was alright

[barren nacelle]

u can join us if u want

:3

nothihng but death

[vocal eagle]

what in the heck

[barren nacelle]

BTA

mc used to be a lot harder

lol

[vocal eagle]

I played MC a long time ago (I remember compasses being added.) But IDK what BTA means. Do you just mean the beta?

[summer scaffold]

Better Than Adventure

it's a mod

it's meant to expand on the feeling of Beta MC, it's a cool little thing

[vocal eagle]

oh, ok. Might be nice to provide that context so people understand what the screenshot is about. Without context it functions like a meme.

[little rampart]

Meme?

[dusty thunder]

I'm sorry, but this needs to be said: as a survival builder, and as someone who watches the Hermits weekly, this statement is such utter bullcrap.

[flat geode]

Ah no!

[vocal eagle]

oh yeah, that argument makes no sense to me either

I have always been an SMP-centric builder, and I build the coolest shit

[barren nacelle]

ok for my preferences the new terrain isnt very playable
thats... what i meant?

[flat geode]

Yeah, fair, but preference still

[barren nacelle]

ur just making fun of preference 😭

[dusty thunder]

Like, I literally watched TangoTek build a goddamn deck building dungeon crawler game in vanilla.

And I'm building an enormous frotress city based on a city in Pathfinder.

[barren nacelle]

ok, its unplayable for me

for my preferences

[grave ravine]

I used BetaCraft to play Beta 1.1_02 last year

(it's pretty much a stabilized Alpha 1.2.6, with leaf decay and server-side inventory)

[dusty thunder]

Ohhhhh nononononono, you don't get to make a sweeping statement like that and then say "stop making fun of my preference". I've dealt with enough of that over the last 10 years.

[barren nacelle]

...?

what

[grave ravine]

it's amazing how fast old Minecraft runs on modern PCs

[barren nacelle]

i said it was my preference

[dusty thunder]

You didn't say it though. You said "depending on your preferences", which is still a sweeping statement. And either way, it's a false statement because vanilla Minecraft has never not been unplayable.

[barren nacelle]

???

what

ur just making fun of someones preferences 😭

[flat geode]

They're not saying it's unplayable for all, just for them personally

[vocal eagle]

what changed in survival that makes it "unplayable for building" though?

[barren nacelle]

new terrain?

lol

[vocal eagle]

there have always been some areas of terrain better or worse suited for building a base

it's not hard to find good building areas even if your spawn is a bit funky

[dusty thunder]

Then they should say that from the start, instead of declaring the game "unplayable".

I am not making fun of anyone or anything. Simply stating "the game is unplayble based on your preferences" doesn't say anything in regards to their preference, and is false.

[barren nacelle]

it is unplayable based on ur preferences

that is an objective statement

😭

[dusty thunder]

It isn't though

Preference is subjective

[barren nacelle]

???????

[dusty thunder]

Therefore the core of the argument is subjective

[barren nacelle]

it is unplayable based on ur preferences

is a true sentence

[flat geode]

We're not arguing that everyone shouldn't play the latest version

[barren nacelle]

the game is unplayable for me due to my preferences

why are u getting upset over someone not having the same preferences

[dusty thunder]

I'm not upset.

[barren nacelle]

im not saying its the right opinion...?

lol

[dusty thunder]

I'm saying that you shouldn't make sweeping generalizations about the game like that.

[vocal eagle]

it is kind of a strange argument, and was stated in a way that implied other people rather than merely yourself

[barren nacelle]

??????????????

what are u even saying

[vocal eagle]

"it's become unplayable for me because..." includes only you, and is different from "become unplayable depending on your preferences" which includes others for no reason

[barren nacelle]

...? because its unplayable for others too?

lol

[dusty thunder]

Do you know what the word "unplayable" means?

If you were to hop into modern Minecraft right now, you could still play to your preference, you would just have to terraform some stuff. That's not "unplayable", you just don't want to put in that much effort, which, just to get this straight, is perfectly okay. It's okay if you don't want to put much effort into the game. But don't make a sweeping statement to declare the game unplayable when it isn't.

[barren nacelle]

i know a lot of people who quit the game and dont enjoy it cus of the new terrain

ur just getting upset at someone having a different opinion now

who isnt even insisting its the right one

[flat geode]

I don't think they mean anyone specific here, just generally the player base as a whole

[barren nacelle]

im sorry i dont like modern mc terrain

🙄

cry abt it

im not a worse person for it

[vocal eagle]

on GT's point -- I don't like a lot of MC updates. I don't say it's unplayable, just that I don't like the updates.

[barren nacelle]

its unplayable for me

[dusty thunder]

Which is fine, Lothar

[vocal eagle]

and "cry abt it" just seems like an unnecessary escalation

[barren nacelle]

if u wanna be upset

dont at me

[barren nacelle]

ur the ones arguing over an opinion

dont look down on people for having preferences

[vocal eagle]

(1) takes two to argue
(2) you're the one saying things like "cry abt it" and unnecessarily pinging me

[barren nacelle]

stop bullying me

actually

[sleek bane]

Finally time to play some minecraft

[barren nacelle]

leave me alone over an opinion

[vocal eagle]

yeah aight I'm out

[sleek bane]

What the hell did I miss

[barren nacelle]

two people getting upset i dont like modern mc

and insisting i do

[flat geode]

Nothing PK, just ignore them

[shut bridge]

Val, drop it or you're getting a timeout for being rude and in violation of Rule 1. Now.

[dusty thunder]

Now you're putting words in our mouth.

[sleek bane]

well one of those two people is one of my hsubands so

[barren nacelle]

i have been and i am

[flat geode]

It was a dumb argument on preference of Minecraft Versions

[barren nacelle]

i got harassed over an opinion for no reason :/

im just playing mc

idk if sharing server ips is allowed in here so im not going to

[flat geode]

I think y'all are both in the wrong, unintentional or not

[dusty thunder]

For my part, I'm sorry I used the word "bullcrap" regarding your statement.

[barren nacelle]

it was very upsetting to me since me and an entire community no longer find modern mc enjoyable

[dusty thunder]

I still think the statement is flawed and wrong, but that was unnecessarily harsh on my part, so I apologize.

[barren nacelle]

i dont think ur any less or wrong for enjoying modern mc

just dont say i am

[dusty thunder]

Neither of us were, but at the moment we're just going around in circles

[barren nacelle]

it was prob unintentional but u insulted an entire community

and i dont think that was right, which is why i got sad

[slate parrot]

What exactly is BTA?

[barren nacelle]

its less of a mod

more of a fork of beta 1.7.3

like its own MC version thats being developed

[slate parrot]

Does it add new stuff?

[barren nacelle]

its a full rework

new armour system, new terrain system, a new structure stuff like that

new dungeon exclusive loot like golden quiver

quiver for bows

new ore

[slate parrot]

Waow

[barren nacelle]

its the beta mc experience

theres 4 seasons

in winter the world freezes and mob spawns become more common (enemies) + less food

[slate parrot]

It sounds cool!

[barren nacelle]

a rule they made is

1. no surface structures
2. no sprinting ever

o and minecarts are super fast now

[slate parrot]

Wait what? Why?

[barren nacelle]

its BTA

its an alternative to the Adventure 1.8 Update

like how 1.9 changes the game from 1.8.9

alt universe

[slate parrot]

Oh wait so is there no villages?

[barren nacelle]

nope, none

[slate parrot]

Oh. For some reason i thought you couldn't build on the surface

[barren nacelle]

um i mean u canf reely build lol

u build ur own

[slate parrot]

I might try it

[barren nacelle]

its not for everyone!!!!

its for a niche group of classic mc enjoyers

that love classic mc

for me its therapy :p

[barren nacelle]

as u can see im tryna make a cliff house lol

oh yea bta feature

the photo mode

[slate parrot]

I haven't played Minecraft java in a while tbh

[barren nacelle]

its gonna be a pretty different experience

[slate parrot]

I know

does it need a certain launcher?

[barren nacelle]

multimc is the recommended

[slate parrot]

ight

how do you set up the launcher?

[barren nacelle]

just download multimc and log into it
then just drag the bta updater utility version and run it

[slate parrot]

i figured it out!

[barren nacelle]

join us if ud like

[slate parrot]

how?

[barren nacelle]

oh uh

@shut bridge is sharing ips to server allowed, specifically my own lol
its a domain name

[slate parrot]

ill just start my own world to see if i like it or not

[barren nacelle]

do u mind if i dm the ip

[slate parrot]

nah im fine

[barren nacelle]

o ok

[sleek bane]

Blocks, smelting, coal, I learned a lot today lol

[barren nacelle]

make sure u try sleeping in the nether

u get an achievement

recommended u have no valuable items

[slate parrot]

Do not do that

Unless you want to go to sleep forever(death)

[vocal eagle]

as a general rule, don't give people troll advice unless you know they're OK with being trolled

[barren nacelle]

that isnt troll advice lol

it does give u an achievement

i think

[vocal eagle]

it's troll advice if you don't explain that it kills you (explosively)

[barren nacelle]

wow whyd u spoil it

its a fun surprise

:/

[vocal eagle]

not everyone likes to be trolled either by people giving them advice or by the games they're playing. I happen to know PK leans toward liking to be told things clearly.

[barren nacelle]

by the games design ur heavily encouraged to try it lol
as long as its not hardcore theres no consequences really either

[barren nacelle]

i made it pretty clear its lethal/deadly

u just spoiled the fun

and took away a cool first game experience

i remember the first time as a kid i did that cus i was building a house

its an experience lot of us had

oh well, its too late now lol

[vocal eagle]

I remember the first time it happened to me as well, and the hole it put in the middle of Procellarum Base (which was itself my proud "fuck you" to the Nether, like a 3-acre enclosed glass area with no spaces where ghasts could spawn due to glass pillars everywhere, back when that was the only interesting nether mob.) I did not spoil the fun; I gave PK the information he's likely to actually want.

[barren nacelle]

i prefer pointing in the right direction rather than just spoiling

thats my preference :p

from most that i know, theres no point to sleeping in the nether (according to Notch) as there is no day cycle

u can set ur spawn with a respawn block

respawn anchor

[vocal eagle]

we have different preferences. Don't lose your temper at me for expressing that mine are different. I swear we just had this conversation.

[barren nacelle]

https://minecraft.fandom.com/wiki/Respawn_Anchor

[barren nacelle]

uh... ur the one who got upset over it and lectured me as if its the objectively right thing

u could just tell them urself there was no real need to start something over conflicting views

[vocal eagle]

uh no. I tried to have a conversation where I expressed that what you said with "your" terminology might apply to you but did not apply to me, and I suggested "my/me" terminology would be better.

[barren nacelle]

anyways, beds exploding in the nether/end is just a traditional thing atp lol

speedrunners use the bed strat to cheese the dragon which honestlyyy

prob should get removed

[vocal eagle]

and then I asked you what you didn't like, and tried to have a conversation again, and you didn't want to talk about it, so I checked out.

[barren nacelle]

theres a lot of relics in MC that havent really been touched in years

[vocal eagle]

I do think the bed strat is cheese and I don't use it. I wouldn't mind like a big pile of TNT strat, but beds are weird.

[barren nacelle]

the dragon fight still needs a rework

[vocal eagle]

(but I did once use an anvil strat on a wither, which was the funniest thing. Set it so it'd be created with the push of a button which would also trigger a series of redstone repeaters up to a piston that would send an anvil falling, frame-perfect so it was just out of the blast radius and then landed on him for a full kill the next frame)

[barren nacelle]

when i fought it it was ridiculously buggy

they have made it a lil more interesting with the launch mechanic it does

and the fire breath

feel like it should spawn minions though when its flying around

cus the endermen arent exactly a threat if u know what ur doing

[sleek bane]

No troll advice please

[barren nacelle]

place a bed in the nether and right click, it will blow up and give u an achievement i think.
its actually a valid strategy

if u place cobble between u and the bed, it wont kill u

u can use it to mine fast

called "Blast Mining"

bed mining specifically

easy way to find a rare ore in the nether

[dusty thunder]

PK is not gonna be doing this for a long while still. He's just two days into the game.

[sleek bane]

I'm nowhere near ready to begin with that

[barren nacelle]

u can always start early! lol

definitely shear sheep dont kill them

u get more wool

animals dont respawn in modern version of MC

so if u kill all the animals in an area, they dont come back

best to lock them up with fences

[dusty thunder]

This is flat out wrong

They do indeed respawn

I was literally just flattening out my mountain last night and had to kill like 20 sheep because they kept respawning on top of me and getting in my way.

[sleek bane]

do items despawn?

[dusty thunder]

Yes, after 5 minutes if you don't pick them up

[sleek bane]

ahhhhh my chest

[summer scaffold]

oh if they're in a chest don't worry

[sleek bane]

no i broke it

[summer scaffold]

oh

:scrunch:

[vocal eagle]

5 minutes of time with that area loaded into memory

[barren nacelle]

they dont...

[dusty thunder]

Ooooh, I think this is my bad. Shulker boxes and Ender chests can be broken and it keeps their inventory inside so you can carry them around. Regular wooden chests, however, do not.

[vocal eagle]

if you die and then go offline, and then go back online, and nobody else was near there, the timer will have paused

[sleek bane]

dangit all of my items are on the floor

[barren nacelle]

they only spawn once when the chunk is loaded

they never respawn

thats how the game is programmed

[dusty thunder]

Yes they do.

Again, I'm living proof that they do.

They kept respawning on top of me

Squids, fish, pigs, cows, sheep, chickens, they all respawn.

[barren nacelle]

in old versions like beta 1.7.3 they do

[sleek bane]

okay i was able to fix it

[barren nacelle]

they removed it with the breeding update

did u play bedrock or java

im talking abt java

bedrock seems like they can spawn back if critera are met

but in java no, once the chunk is loaded its joever

it causes a lot of forests to become empty

in my worlds at least

lol

[shut bridge]

passive mobs, aka animals, have one spawning cycle every 400 game ticks

you are wrong

[dusty thunder]

Then why are there literally passive mob farms?

You're using outdated info

[barren nacelle]

i just posted the wiki...

passive mob farms cant exist without breeding

[dusty thunder]

Yes they can

[shut bridge]

read further down the page
https://minecraft.wiki/w/Spawn#Animals:~:text=passive mobs have only one spawning cycle every 400 game ticks (20 seconds)

[barren nacelle]

again... the proof

[dusty thunder]

And again, you're using outdated info, or cherry picking

Also, I just checked, using a bed in the Nether does not give you an advancement.

I'm starting to wonder if you even know what modern Minecraft is like.

[barren nacelle]

off the wiki

i said i dont play modern mc anymore

[dusty thunder]

Well then, I suppose you wouldn't know that you can create passive mob farms from mushroom islands.

If you just replace the mycelium with grass

I have literally seen pigs and sheep and cows spawn right in front of me.

[barren nacelle]

interesting, i wonder if this was present before?
i never had animals ever spawn in loaded chunks

even the initial spawn had no animals

once they were all killed

[dusty thunder]

As a player of modern Minecraft, please do not lecture me on the mechanics of modern Minecraft if you don't even play modern Minecraft as per your own words because it's "unplayable" for you. I think I would know a little more than you do about modern Minecraft's mechanics.

[mint cypress]

you do not get an achievement from that

[grave ravine]

passive mobs do respawn but there were some known issues with the algorithm that made it much slower than expected

I recall AntVenom made a video about it

[barren nacelle]

from my experiences since ive played ive never really had it happen

aside from loading new chunks

[shut bridge]

it literally does not exist in the Advancements list

[barren nacelle]

ah ok i misremembered

ty

[grave ravine]

I still would recommend keeping at least 2 mobs of each type in each area if you can help it

[barren nacelle]

really should be tho

its best just to group them up anyways for some good ol factory farming

the passive mob spawns are wonky

[sleek bane]

Is there an ingame map?

[dusty thunder]

No, but there are mods

Well

[barren nacelle]

no not without mods
theres a map item but its weak

u can upgrade the maps res

using paper

[dusty thunder]

Actually you can create maps, but they aren't that great.

[barren nacelle]

if u make them big its fine

surroudn them with paper a few times

[sleek bane]

Please don't ping me while I'm still here

[uneven harness]

cords and memory are good enough

[dusty thunder]

I'll be back online soon, once I finish eating.

[barren nacelle]

heres what they look like

[vocal eagle]

this reminds me of one time a friend was lecturing my wife about where to find diamonds in Minecraft, based on his superstitions. She was at the time a modder, in the era you had to decompile and deobfuscate the code yourself, and she'd specifically done modding on the ore spawning algorithm and understood it as well as pretty much anyone. It was a very strange conversation.

[barren nacelle]

they are good for getting an idea of the terrain gen

and u can make pixel art using them

ig

town maps work too

[vocal eagle]

in-game maps are kind of fun. I'll usually map out 2000 blocks every direction from spawn and make a map table, and then place maps at various interesting locations so they all show up as markers on the maps

[barren nacelle]

honestly maps in MC are so annoying to work with i just recommend coordinates and nether highway

lol

journeymap i think is a great map mod

[vocal eagle]

when I make a map I just put it in my off hand, and then get on my horse and ride. (The only mod I use is "enchanted horse armor" and I put frost walker on it so I can cross oceans without hassle)

[barren nacelle]

try to combine big res maps together its very frustrating
(like on an item frame wall)

[dusty thunder]

Fun fact: no, lava pockets are not how you find diamonds. They never were. Diamonds don't specifically spawn closer to them. It's the generation of the bubble cave around the lava pocket that shows diamonds more often, because it makes them visible. Diamonds can generate wherever they want under a certain Y level.

[barren nacelle]

u have to do it just right or itll be off

[barren nacelle]

its usually cus diamonds were around lava pool level back in the day + they often are found near them as well as redstone

the lava also obscures a lot of diamonds too

they arent tied to lava yea

just how it be

with the new caves its all different now

its way easier to find diamonds

caves like this are full of diamonds

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, and? The deepslate caves are also much harder to navigate, and are also home to Wardens and a TON of mobs.

Not to mention lava oceans

More risk, more reward.

[vocal eagle]

in general, caves have always been easier to find ore in than mines, not because there's more ore but because you get to look at more surfaces

[dusty thunder]

Even in 1.6, when caves were "at their best" before 1.7 changed terrain gen (and again before 1.18, when it was changed again imo for the better), ores were very easy to find.

[vocal eagle]

if you dug out a long enough mineshaft that you could see as many blocks as are visible in that image, you'd probably find a similar number of diamonds (actually more in recent updates; they made the spawning algorithm slightly less likely to make ore that's visible in caves.)

[barren nacelle]

uh what...

[dusty thunder]

I'm guessing you don't know about Wardens either.

[barren nacelle]

i do? lol

ive killed one before

they really easy

if u knew the cheese strat

[vocal eagle]

wardens are only in specific areas

[dusty thunder]

I thought you didn't play modern Minecraft?

[barren nacelle]

theyre in the deep dark biome

[barren nacelle]

i... used to? lol a lot

[vocal eagle]

that cave wouldn't have a warden. It's the wrong biome.

[barren nacelle]

it wouldnt no

its not a deep dark

wardens only spawn from shriekers

[uneven harness]

from my expereince even my obenscenly long long mine shafts barely gave diamonds, while caves had it all

[dusty thunder]

I know, but you can still stumble upon a Deep Dark biome in deepslate caves

[vocal eagle]

I also personally find caves easy to navigate, because I have a marker method that's very effective

[barren nacelle]

aactually deep dark DO have higher diamond gens i swear

lol

i always find them everywherew

[dusty thunder]

Yeah, I know, that's the point.

More risk, more reward

[barren nacelle]

i dont like how they handled the warden, hes just

not a threat

[dusty thunder]

That's even what Mojang said regarding diamonds

[barren nacelle]

i wish he could break blocks

like stone

mine thru the wall idk

lol

his sonic attack does go thru walls

[mint cypress]

they do not
its really only bc deep dark biomes spawn at a deep y level, which is where diamonds are most common
but diamond distribution is the same in non-deep dark areas

[sleek bane]

I'm building a hous

[shut bridge]

hous

[vocal eagle]

hous

[barren nacelle]

really, how weird

i swear there was more spawns there

ig then yea its just the y level

[sleek bane]

i maded a house

[barren nacelle]

oo can u share
ur first house is often forgotten so u might wanna preserve it

i definitely dont really remember mine..

[summer scaffold]

Warden

[rigid fog]

i applaud mojang for that

That shit is freaky

[summer scaffold]

yeah deep dark is scary af

it's like the Upside Down from Stranger Things

aesthetically i mean

[rigid fog]

Yeah its impressive how they managed to make a true horror experience in a random generated world

[barren nacelle]

the music reminds me of it but the actual area was a lil poorly executed

i love the music and the idea more than the execution

the way the warden so predictably spawns really kills the horror

[summer scaffold]

[barren nacelle]

its the unexpected and the unknown thats scary

having a 3-strike system sort of, kills it for me

ig i was expecting something more so of a constant threat

[sleek bane]

I made a house and found an underground lake

[summer scaffold]

hell yeah

[little rampart]

hell yeah

[mint cypress]

hell yeah

[slate parrot]

hell yeah

[sleek bane]

I'm trying to take a screenshot but it keeps popping up with the menu :(