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river veldt
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oh ok

slim thorn
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but yeah, this is the big canon example of him surviving a literal fall from orbit with only the armor, mostly because Mjolnir armor is just that OP

river veldt
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the new UI is interesting

slim thorn
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I like how someone still has to find him down there and turn it off and on again before he can get up

gaunt marten
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(He has another helmet under it)

green fulcrum
cerulean herald
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...how did he fall off a spaceship ppenk

river veldt
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tbf it was a Covenant ship so maybe they chased him off it

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i like this new plasma gun a lot

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no overheating

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spiker !

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that's what it's called

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so i guess it's not a plasma gun

slim thorn
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wasn't he hanging onto the outside of the spaceship when it launched?

river veldt
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iirc he was inside

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at least in the remade cutscene

slim thorn
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oh yeah he is

river veldt
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i just got an achievement for fighting alongside a guy named "Chips Dubbo" ppenk

slim thorn
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welp I have no idea how he fell out then

gaunt marten
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The guy's name is literally on him

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What's worse is he knows my name even though I've never told him

river veldt
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are youu playing Old School Runescape

gaunt marten
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Yeah

hushed onyx
static bluff
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I played 11 one-minute per player games in 30 minutes and tied for first place!

gaunt marten
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Nice

teal sonnet
gaunt marten
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Finished the Misthalin Mystery quest in OSRS. Having sound effects and visual effects turned off makes the boss fight where you use the mirror to reflect knives so much more annoying

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The writing is pretty silly. Bit too silly for me. It's self-contained, well-designed for an MMO. I can see why people like it

bitter stream
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oooh, OSRS is a classic. It's strange to me that they never updated it's graphics, but i guess that's part of what makes it easy to run for folks

gaunt marten
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They did update the graphics many times

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I am intentionally running on garbo mode

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Here’s a first look at the HD Mode coming to the Official Client and Mobile. Experience fully dynamic lighting, sunlight effects, and fog as you explore the beautiful world of Gielinor.

Discover more: https://osrs.game/Official-Client-Next-Steps

Old School RuneScape is a retro game version of RuneScape from 2007 which we returned at the comm...

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bitter stream
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oh neat, I'll have ot give it a shot whenit comes out

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I've not played in years, probably can't recover my account, I couldn't find it last time i tried

gaunt marten
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I'm playing a randomizer where chunks and items are locked behind doing various random tasks

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So if you don't have a chunk unlocked, you're not allowed to do anything in it. You're allowed to cross it towards a chunk you do have unlocked. If you try to equip an item you have without permission, the plugin prevents you from doing that

bitter stream
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wait, how does that work? is that a mode for when you make an account? or is this a third party thing?

gaunt marten
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It uses a runelite plugin

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Runelite is a third party client that is officially integrated into the jagex launcher

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The plugins are individually checked to make sure they're safe from a programming perspective, and they let you do all sorts of things like create overlays, look up stuff, change graphics

bitter stream
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oh interesting, that's neat that it's integrated

wind stump
cunning galleon
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Gutted

wind stump
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i feel like Mario Kart Tour tracks are just genuinely dogshit in MK8D

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like "wow, the layout changes. riveting."
Doesn't stop it from being a flat, boring ass stage that feels like i'm going to fall asleep at the wheel, somewhat literally

worthy rose
fickle garnet
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Interesting

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I still need to finish E33

wind stump
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E

worthy rose
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"As Dune: Awakening celebrates 1 million players, Funcom reveals an unforgiving 816,720 deaths to Shai-Hulud and over 6 billion grams of Spice consumed by fans of the survival MMO"

static bluff
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ha, nice

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Yeah it looks pretty cool.

random steppe
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I still think the spice hallucinations are the coolest thing they put into the game

fickle garnet
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I want to play it but $65 is a lot

random steppe
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65? Which platform it's 65 on?

fickle garnet
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Steam. This is in Canada dollars

random steppe
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Oh, makes sense

fickle garnet
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I wonder if it'll go on sale for the summer sale

random steppe
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Maybe a 10-15% is realistic

fickle garnet
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Yeah probably

fresh bane
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jump into battlefront 2
it's triple exp day!
go into heroes vs villains match
people are immediately insulting each other

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wow, this game really is healing flutternatureissofascinating

river veldt
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why are people suddenly so back into Battlefront 2

gaunt marten
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Because it's 2025

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They make a new Star Wars Battlefront 2 every ten years

visual hill
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I can't wait for Star Wars Battlefront II (2029)

fresh bane
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And it looks good, and it plays good, and it runs really good

visual hill
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it was also free on EGS at some point (with all DLCs)

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and yeah, people slept on it because of the microtransaction debacle

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EA community manager, we salute you. rdsalute

river veldt
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ah ok

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yeah i remember only hearing about the MTX

fresh bane
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I'm actually a little mad that I didn't hear about how good the game was before (although I would've never payed full price for this plus the DLC) because I was there when the first and second Battlefronts came out and when the whole thing with the microtransactions with BFII happened and the whole 'sense of satisfaction' thing that was a huge meme

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but I was always under the impression that the game was also kind of bad

visual hill
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as I hear it, singleplayer is not great, especially in the first modern game (2015)

fresh bane
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But no it's actually fantastic it's incredibly fun and fortunately it seems like it's actually gotten the most players it ever had in its entire lifetime

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I remember hearing something about the campaign being bad but I don't remember if it was BF1 or BF2

gaunt marten
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I'm definitely not giving money to EA for any reason

robust latch
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but think of the poor execs needing their bonuses. wont anyone please think of the execs

gaunt marten
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I'll think of them when they think of me

chilly mural
gaunt marten
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They probably just released the internal dev kit after making sure nothing they're not allowed to release is included

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Guy who cheated in competitive Fortnite got sued and didn't show up to court, getting a default judgement

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in the amount of $175,521.00 from the date of entry of judgment in this action.
Defendant and his officers, agents, representatives, servants, employees, heirs,
successors, and assigns, and all others in active concert or participation with
Defendant are permanently enjoined from:
i. Infringing, or inducing, contributing, or enabling others to infringe,
Plaintiff’s copyrights;
Case 2:24-cv-10835-KK-JC Document 29 Filed 06/24/25 Page 1 of 2 Page ID
#:324
copyrighted works, including but not limited to Fortnite;
iii. Circumventing any of Plaintiff’s technological measures that control
access to Plaintiff’s copyrighted works, including but not limited to
Fortnite;
iv. Using any software or device not authorized by Plaintiff that provides
Fortnite players a competitive advantage in Fortnite; and
v. Aiding or assisting another person or entity in any of the activities
described in (a)–(d) above```
slim thorn
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but it's i through iv, not a through d

visual hill
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for a game that has a 100 to 150 GB install size, 700 GB is not out of the question

gaunt marten
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if the defendant didn't show up do you think the proofreader will?

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Interestingly, the guy's children are also banned from Fortnite

slim thorn
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oh damn you're right

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well unless he disowns them

gaunt marten
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You never disown your children

visual hill
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that's a very strange decision to be fair

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not sure I've ever seen it before

slim thorn
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I think Flitter and I are just nitpicking the legalese

gaunt marten
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You send them to sea until they get scurvy, then throw them in the oubliette and hope the -6 health kills them

visual hill
gaunt marten
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If you just disown them they'll come back with an equal army size to you and fight as claimants

random steppe
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At least by how I read it, it might be meaning that they can't help him play fortnite.

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As in "all these categories are banned from playing fortnite while in active partecipation with the individual"

gaunt marten
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I read this as "and all others in active concert or participation with"

random steppe
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It would be very weird if they could ban his employees from playing for example rdsnrk

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Or maybe anyone that might have helped him cheat

slim thorn
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it's funny how legalese is supposed to clarify things, but it mostly just adds more questions unless you have a lawyer handy

gaunt marten
proper storm
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Mario Maker 3 when?

gaunt marten
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The pathing plugin doesn't like canoes

slim thorn
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huh, the new Liam Triforce video is about Mario Kart World

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maybe I'll end up understanding what GT was on about the other day

green fulcrum
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No idea who that is, so maybe not. All the stuff I said was just my own observations and it was technically biased by my own opinions on what constitutes as fun. I'm no critic, just a guy.

slim thorn
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just a guy who does video essays I watch sometimes, nothing to know other than he tends to focus on the Nintendo serieses

green fulcrum
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At least he owns the game. I can't tell you anything about how it plays, how it runs, or how it controls. All the knowledge and observations I have of it are based on videos and streams I've seen of it.

hushed onyx
slim thorn
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for once, 💀 feels like an appropriate laugh emoji

river veldt
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i love you Liam Triforce

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holy shit he's doing a Mother series video soon ccloudypog

fresh bane
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I'm actually really surprised at how much this feels like playing Jedi Academy, down to some of the tech you have to pull off with the mouse flicks and a lot of people being down to respect the 1v1 rule and just sort of stand around and watch waiting for their turn to jump in

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I was doing the mouse flick thing pretty hard in this fight, but it's tricky and the characters (I assume intentionally) are super weighty to control and there's a noticeable input delay with pretty much any of your actions other than just basic movement, so you can't quite spam or mash your keyboard at least not in a way that would benefit you at all (any player that knows how to parry and when to block would beat you pretty much immediately)

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but it's interesting, I like it, whenever there's nobody being toxic or racist in chat or any players leaving the match this is a pretty fun time, I rematched quite a lot with some familiar usernames and that was almost always a guaranteed good match lyrathumbsup

visual hill
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whenever there's nobody being toxic or racist in chat
disabling chat probably helps

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I have voice chat off in games that don't have a strict requirement on it, it's almost never a good experience in a public lobby

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but even text chat off is worth considering in games that have a bad reputation for toxicity, at least for the enemy team

graceful bridge
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Summer sale starts at <t:1750957200:t>

visual hill
quiet swift
astral steeple
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Oh hell yeah

Just got 250 dollars from the ftc epic games thing

quiet swift
random steppe
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Sable is a pretty good game

gaunt marten
fickle garnet
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I'm trying to decide between buying Silent Hill 2 and Ghost of Tsushima

river veldt
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i say Silent Hill 2

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Steam isn't even loading for me rn lol

proud warren
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(Deltarune chapter 4 stuff) ||hot damn, I beat the hammer of justice fight first try without knowing anything about what to expect from the fight||

fickle garnet
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I'm gonna buy SH2

slim thorn
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assuming you've heard all the content warnings for it, yeah SH2 is an experience you'd be hard pressed to get from any other video game

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I haven't personally played Tsushima but from everything I've heard it's "just" another solid AAA open world, we've probably all played a few of those by now

fickle garnet
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I can probably get Ghost of Tsushima for cheaper as a used physical copy tbh

eager bane
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Steam Servers seem to be cooking GlimAAAH

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I get timeouts

fickle garnet
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I have bought SH2

cerulean herald
cunning galleon
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I want zomboiiiiid

cunning galleon
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But I've got bills to pay... It's only 4 dollas

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Grrrr maybe next time then

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Its always 33% anyway

bronze abyss
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damn i got happy for a sec but its 13eur here

cunning galleon
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Regional pricing

coral folio
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Aaaaa steam is not loading

quiet swift
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meanwhile, on prime

slim thorn
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uh

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crap what do we actually recommend in that space

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Breath of the Wild?

hushed onyx
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Nothing, because I’m not going to play one anyway 😛

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Don’t have the time.

river veldt
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Breath of the Wild and Read Dead Redemption 2 are the best open world games imo

cunning galleon
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Project zomboid is great but its isometric and its a zombie game

bronze abyss
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Rdr2,dying light,and potentially baldurs i would say are rhe best,each in different categories,though baldurs might be semi open?

fickle garnet
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Baldur's Gate 3 is just the best game

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I need to continue RDR2. I got it at the same time I got Death Stranding, and I got distracted by thatflutterhellodarkness

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I really enjoyed it tho

cunning galleon
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Tahiti

visual hill
visual hill
slim thorn
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yeah, BotW worked for me, while I know I wouldn't enjoy RDR2 or BG3 much, though I can at least appreciate what they're going for

visual hill
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I thought you played BG3, I must have confused with someone else

young creek
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botw mentioned 🗣️

fickle garnet
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Silent Hill 2 is fucking creepy

slim thorn
fickle garnet
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Oh I didnt know there was a Silent Hill thread

slim thorn
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yeah, we have a lot of quiet threads that only wake up when someone feels like playing that game

fickle garnet
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I've wanted to play SH2 for a while now, so its nice to finally play it, even if it is the remake

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Which people obviously liked the remake a lot

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And I can get why

slim thorn
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I'm familiar with both versions and honestly I don't think the remake is even a downside here; the original and remake both have things they do better than the other, and I suspect the remake's advantages work out better for a first-time player anyway

fickle garnet
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This is my first Silent Hill game btw

slim thorn
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that's also fine, 2 in particular is a very self-contained story

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there's a few references to the events of SH1 but for the most part the only thing worth knowing is that there was another game of spooky supernatural stuff happening here, so by the time you get really confused about the plot, e.g. "the entire town is made up" is not a theory on the table rdsnrk

river veldt
fickle garnet
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There was one ambient noise while on the fire escape to the apartment building that scared the shit out of me and made me jumprdsnrk

slim thorn
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oooh I think I remember that spot

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is that the one you use to move between two bedrooms because the second one's door is locked

fickle garnet
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Yeah

slim thorn
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yeah I think we're talking about the same spot then

fickle garnet
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It's where you get the button for the jukebox

slim thorn
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IIRC the noise there is slightly random so back in the day there would be stories of people disagreeing about whether that noise was even real because "it didn't happen in my playthrough"

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oh whoops that fire escape

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I'm thinking of a later part then

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wouldn't surprise me if they did the same noise thing over there though

fickle garnet
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I'm pretty sure the noise was just metal creaking, but I was not expecting it

slim thorn
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now that I'm thinking of the correct spot, probably yeah

river veldt
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wasn't Silent Hill 1 ||a cult or something ?||

fickle garnet
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I can already see why so many people love this game tho

slim thorn
slim thorn
fickle garnet
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Death Stranding 2 is done downloading so I'm gonna play it now

slim thorn
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fair

river veldt
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fine i will watch Liam Triforce's SH video

velvet fiber
slim thorn
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how many body parts were you missing by the end of that

bronze abyss
bronze abyss
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peakggle and crash for 5$ combined

green fulcrum
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Might get the N-Sane Trilogy.

visual hill
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should I bother? 😛

green fulcrum
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The third game is considered one of the best games of all time, at least the original is.

gaunt marten
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Remake is good too

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Only has minor flaws (like capsule shaped collision making it easier to slip off of thin platforms)

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The remastered trilogy is competently made and the people who made it knew what they were doing, but they still did it from scratch

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The original trilogy was made by absolute masters, and it's a shame not all the good bits carried over.

cerulean herald
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What good stuff was left behind?

gaunt marten
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Lots of subtle things. Easiest one to explain is the physics changes

chilly mural
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it has this one sample in the song that apparently is the basis for jeh jeh rocket

bitter stream
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steam sale is cool, but I just need to focus on what I already own I think

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even as good as those sales are atm

gaunt marten
astral steeple
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Good lord lol

bitter stream
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ah, I suppose CoD is trying to become the next fortnite, so I suppose it makes sense in that angle

green fulcrum
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It's so stupid

bitter stream
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yes, but it prints so much money lol

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despite all the crazy skins, nicki minaj included, BO6 was

Call of Duty: Black Ops 6 finished as both the best-selling premium video game of December and the 2024 year. Call of Duty was the best-selling video game franchise in U.S. full game dollar sales (excluding add-on content) for a record 16th consecutive year.

wind stump
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equipping a fire tome in your 4th character's second hand slot allows them to one hit kill every enemy... And can also delete the save in Slot 1

graceful bridge
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Bethesda Game Studios, the award-winning creators of Skyrim and Fallout 4, welcome you to Fallout 76. Twenty-five years after the bombs fell, you and your fellow Vault Dwellers—chosen from the nation’s best and brightest – emerge into post-nuclear America on Reclamation Day, 2102. Play solo or join together as you explore, quest, build,…

Price

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Recommendations

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▶ Play video
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Fallout 76 is $10 USD right now. Best price if you want to just try it out.

static bluff
gaunt marten
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More people should do 100% GBA speedruns for FF1

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Alas, everyone does any% or any% glitchless

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And they use the original for some reason

wind stump
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blood sword deals 1/16th of enemy's maximum HP
can attack multiple times a turn

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IT FUCKING HEALS YOU

unreal idol
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That's not an item in FFI

wind stump
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You're not SUPPOSED to be able to equip one

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Also this is FFII

unreal idol
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Oh. It said FF and you were all talking about FFI

wind stump
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yeah i had to double check the title

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especially with the reused assets, lmao

fickle garnet
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I have played Death Stranding 2 for around five hours and I've already cried twiceflutternatureissofascinating

unreal idol
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What exactly is that game about anyway?

slim thorn
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the original or 2 specifically? (I only played 1)

unreal idol
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Sure

slim thorn
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#1032716748887179434 message

unreal idol
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I dunno anything about Death Stranding except it involves creepy looking babies for some reason

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Aha. Interesting

slim thorn
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the "bridge babies" are a whole thing in that game because they're specifically stillborn babies, who by virtue of never truly becoming alive retain a connection to the other side, which allows them to sense certain things (especially the game's metaphysical enemies) better than any living human or technology can

static bluff
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oh my

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Rule 5c would have been nice here but i guess the game has been out for ages

slim thorn
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isn't this early game exposition stuff?

static bluff
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Wouldn't know

river veldt
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BB my beloved

slim thorn
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ah

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then yeah for DS1 this is literally tutorial information

arctic fern
slim thorn
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spoilers would be things like ||why your bridge baby is special, and why another character is so interested in it||

young creek
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Yeah... like princess Beach

river veldt
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is BB a boy or a girl i can't remember

arctic fern
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ive watched several videos on the game and its never been explained lol

unreal idol
slim thorn
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maybe those videos didn't repeat all the basic mechanics explained in the tutorials? lol

arctic fern
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maybe

fickle garnet
unreal idol
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Its right on the edge of "oh this is kind of interesting" and "oh the game devs were on some serious fucking drugs"

slim thorn
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it is the Kojima game where he was allowed to go full Kojima

unreal idol
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I know he put a vtuber in the sequel

slim thorn
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(and I reiterate: this is all before it gets weird)

unreal idol
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I take it its probably not available on switch

young creek
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no

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but Nintendo worked on the sequel apparently

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kinda nuts

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Just weird to see Nintendo credited in a ps5 exclusive

unreal idol
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Oh its PS exclusive? Nevermind then

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Back to YT and scanning invoices

young creek
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The sequel is for now afaik, original is available on PC

arctic fern
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maybe they wanted to release it on switch but couldnt for technical reasons

fickle garnet
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The first game is on pc, PlayStation, and xbox

arctic fern
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or its on a temporary exclusivity contract with sony

young creek
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Thats what I think

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like final fantasy

arctic fern
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i find it kinda weird still

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but whatever

visual hill
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it's rare for Kojima games to be day 1 on PC

random steppe
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Death Stranding got on PC a long while later as well

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Not gonna complain though, one of the few japanese games with a pretty solid PC port performance wise

visual hill
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Decima magic

cunning galleon
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Yup, this is my dream vehicle

wind stump
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oh lfg, the Dave the Diver discord just implied the Godzilla DLC is making a return

visual hill
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I got N-Sane Trilogy and Robocop

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I also checked various simracers' prices during the sale and wow, the DLC policies didn't get better sweetiestare

bitter stream
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what are their DLC policies?

visual hill
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if you want a truly complete edition of a game, prepare to pay over €100 for many of them

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even ETS2 is like €160 right now if you want everything

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Automobilista 2 has the base game for €3.69, and the complete edition will cost you about €75

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iRacing looks cheap right now, but the thing is that you need a subscription to play it

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the OG Assetto Corsa ultimate edition is usually decently priced, but looking on IsThereAnyDeal, it's still a fair bit more expensive than its lowest point a few years ago

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it's probably the best value for money in simracing, since it has a lot of mods but you will need DLC for many of them

bitter stream
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oh damn, that sucks

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I guess I'll stick to arcade racers lol

forest shoal
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I just have BeamNG Drive

visual hill
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when it comes to simracing, I have BeamNG, Project CARS 1/2, DiRT Rally (OG and 2.0)

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not many of them support VR well though, Project CARS 2 does a pretty decent job at it

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(my simracing setup is not in front of a screen, so I need passable VR support)

cunning galleon
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Beamng being called a simracer is pretty new to me

visual hill
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I mean "simracer" as in "best played with a wheel" to be fair

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ETS2 is not a game where you do racing, but it's best played with a wheel for sure, so I put it in that category as well

cunning galleon
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Beamng is really fun to mess around in

cunning galleon
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You can race in a Scania with a load

visual hill
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there are dedicated truck racing games out there too

cunning galleon
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... Probably harder to race in a truck at Europe

visual hill
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but most ETS2 players don't seem too concerned about setting the fastest times for a given route, it's a chill game for the most part

cunning galleon
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I love both ets2 and ats

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ATS is just.. Press W and look at the scenery though

visual hill
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I suppose ATS is easier since it has wider roads and less complicated turns?

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no roundabouts designed to make drivers cringe

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I have both games but have mostly played ETS2, although I only have its older map DLCs like Going East and Scandinavia

wind stump
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fekkin hell

visual hill
# wind stump fekkin hell

you should win if you're tied with second place, nearly all singleplayer racing games work like that

bronze abyss
visual hill
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technically, this means most racing game championships can always be won by being first 50% of the time, and being second the other 50%

wind stump
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yeah, i did

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but it came down to the fucking wire
like
very last second passing Lakitu

visual hill
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(that's a YouTuber/streamer I know)

wind stump
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i like the Tour tracks more

visual hill
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he tested a bunch of GameCube NSO games after playing Perfect Dark

visual hill
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(which is still just as ass on Switch 2 than it is on Switch 1)

wind stump
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ahhh i feel that in my BONES

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FUCK TRIDENT

visual hill
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I have yet to play a F-Zero game

wind stump
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i say this as someone who actually beat everything but DIamond Cup on Master

wind stump
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also i like the Yoshi bike a lot

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it's both pratical AND cute!

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gets hit by red shell
"no, fuck off."
uses mushroom

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Flawless Victory. FATALITY. smugMLG

orchid sundial
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hey folks, I know this sounds awkward, but I'm thinking of giving another m rated game a try. specifically gta vice city. While it is true I am not a fan of m rated games no matter how much I can't get into them, i think it's important to give one a try once in a while. The chances of me liking this game will be very slim, but who knows. the reason why I am thinking about playing this game is because a mlp parody of it appeared in my youtube recommendations, and it caught my interest. I've played another gta game before, that being san andreas, but i wasn't a fan of it. the vibes of it didn't sit right with me. it just felt way too much for me. my middle brother plays gta iii sometimes since out of the 3d trilogy, it seems to be the least bad. but the vibes of it don't appeal to me either. i like the looks of vice city, so i'd like to give it a try. I'm not really into 80s stuff, but it's more appealing to me than iii and san andreas. Also, I used to have a friend who played vice city a lot in their childhood (they played it since they were 4 years old. thats... concerning) and it influenced their tastes in a lot of stuff, especially music and clothing. commemorating to my former friend is not much of concern to me, but i still felt like bringing it up. So, what do you say, should I give the game a try or not really?

cunning galleon
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I mean, VC is the most tame out of III and San Andreas

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San Andreas is just flat out goofy sometimes, its mrated because you can shoot at people

wind stump
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and even Adults Only at one point due to content that was in the game at launch (tho ultimately unused) that ah... Did ruffle some feathers, despite it being unused

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but yeah, still dealing drugs, shooting people, comitting crimes

cunning galleon
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Yea its one of the beta features they were too lazy to remove

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I mean, if it won't be seen why bother

cunning galleon
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San Andreas is worth it for woozy and cj

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"i know you blind man but you gotta see this" 😭

hushed onyx
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You could imagine a police simulator named “Grand Theft Auto” after all Sky_Splash_discord_3

cunning galleon
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"I gotta tell you something, man.. I'm black, not Chinese." -cj

"I'm blind, carl. Not stupid" -woozy

wind stump
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and i don't think i can mention the name of that minigame without the mods Hammer of Dawning the shit out of me (even if it's fully clothed boinking) but it's probably easy enough to find further info given how infamous it was

cunning galleon
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All in all, you can easily avoid a lot of those

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The map feels larger than it is ccloudylilshit

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VC has none of what SA has other than killing people

river veldt
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San Andreas has Big Smoke making it the best

cunning galleon
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My favorite San Andreas character is woozy

orchid sundial
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i'm not a fan of the vibe that san andreas has... i get what they were trying to go for but it doesn't make me feel comfortable

cunning galleon
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He races good even when he's blind

visual hill
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by all means, go for it, Vice City is probably the best GTA game if you want the simpler oldschool experience of the 3D universe

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none of that RPG stuff that comes with GTA San Andreas onwards

cunning galleon
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Yup, Vice City is incredibly simple and fun

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Horrid missions i HATE the construction drone one

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I've gone that far on mobile and i cannot beat it

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Why is it timed who the fuck designed this mission

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Oh uh its not any worse than any of zero's missions in GTA SA but atleast that one is Optional and doesn't really matter to the main story

visual hill
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I've never failed that misssion a single time, it's just a bit of a chore

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in my experience, Vice City is overall easier than GTA III. It's probably the easiest 3D universe game

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GTA III has... things like Espresso-2-Go!, S.A.M, Marked Man that are notable difficulty spikes

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the lack of bikes also makes some gameplay approaches harder, since you can never shoot in front of you while driving

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can't shoot tires or bail out of cars as well

cunning galleon
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The most difficult missions I've every played is the compulsory flight school

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Actually no that was pretty easy

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Just hard to gold

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Hm. Yea it's Zero's missions, tedious and stupid

worldly summit
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GRIS, Steins;Gate, Crypt of the Necrodancer are all 90% off this summer sale

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https://steamdb.info/sales/ this lists the highest-rated games that are on sale

SteamDB

Steam Summer Sale 2025 has started, filling Valve’s digital shop with thousands of deals. Filter and find the best sale deals! Steam Summer Sale 2025 will run until 10 July 2025.

Filters: ≥ 50% discount, ≥ 60% rating, ≥ 500 reviews

gaunt marten
robust latch
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Steam sale. An incentive to fill your game list with things you will never play

gaunt marten
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Yeah I'm going to play the games I have for now

slim thorn
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I see a lot on that list I'd endorse but I think I own most (all?) of what's relevant to me already

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ah, now that I can filter by wishlist, a lot of my maybes have steep discounts too

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I'll have to think about how much is worth buying when I'm not sure how much of it I'll ever get to

gaunt marten
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Yeah, a big part of shopping for videogames is coming up with free time predictions

worldly summit
static bluff
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Hmm. Cyberpunk 2077 is on sell. $21. I'm thinking about getting it

quiet swift
fresh bane
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the fact that Kojima saying ''look up, a whale!'' doesn't actually let you know what game he could be talking about because that specific imagery shows up in at least two of his games is pretty nuts

slim thorn
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what’s the second one

fresh bane
rugged flax
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Apparently Windows Defender sees A Hat In Time as a threat wheeze

toxic seal
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It's telling you to be wary of the crows that ask for personal details

rugged flax
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?

cerulean herald
# rugged flax ?

havent played Hat in Time myself yet, but as I understand it, "Peck" is an audio sample from the game thats been memed quite a bit

green fulcrum
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It's basically an in-game variation of "fuck".

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So when one of the characters inevitably calls you a "peck neck", they're basically calling you a "fuck head".

gaunt marten
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Attack surface reduction doesn't imply it's a threat

proud warren
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the mafia's in that game, of course it's labeled as a threat /j

hasty patio
random steppe
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There is this Cyberpsychosis mod I was dying to try out though

cunning galleon
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Chi-nu in a plane game

arctic fern
craggy vine
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izzynothoughtsheadempty how many games will I buy on summer sale that will take me years to play

gaunt marten
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Zero is a good number

craggy vine
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That is true

visual hill
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it will happen eventually, I expect sometime next year

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by that point, the game will probably be in its actual final version too, as it's still getting a patch this year

visual hill
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fuck Defender, and I mince my words

static bluff
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My backlog is full anyway

craggy vine
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I would personally buy cyberpunk at full price. I don't think I did but with how much I love it, I certaily could have

quiet swift
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The patch WAS going to be 2 days ago but they delayed it

visual hill
cunning galleon
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Out of context game

wind stump
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the icon gives me holo vibes

cerulean herald
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its the Cover logo, but green rdwut

wind stump
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Oh. What game is this, then?

cunning galleon
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It's some random dating Sim idle game that caught my attention rdwut

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CrushCrush

visual hill
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random dating Sim idle game
Luigi's favorite dating sim

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he can date by doing absolutely nothing

wind stump
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"Ichiban has never killed anyone."

bitter stream
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Rocket Launcher inside a small room? everyone is dead lol

craggy vine
worthy rose
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It isn't known yet. They seem to be implying it's content of some form but no details

arctic fern
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There are many game i consider feature complete, but they still produce updates for
Terraria and stardew valley for example

shell shore
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Need some help finding a game i used to play

I remember this ONE level, it was super mario and mario, Luigi, and peach were trapped in a mountain and on top was bowser and he was throwing rocks, you had too dodge it like donkey kong

I remember it was 3D and it was on a 3DS

bitter stream
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🤔 was it a party game? could be one of those Super Mario Party ones

shell shore
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Nah i looked

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I think i played as yoshi

gaunt marten
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Lmao, apparently, Runescape's god of chaos has a tiny temple in the northwesternmost part of the free to play world. Zamorak's Chaos Temple is full of monks who are neutral and allow you to worship at the temple. On a table is a jug full of Wine of Zamorak, an unholy addictive material used in making potions. If you try to grab it, all the monks will attack you, driving you out of the temple or killing you, AND Zamorak will curse you, temporarily lowering your combat skills and dealing damage to you, as well as talking to you in game chat. As a wizard I can telekinetally grab the wine safely, taking minimal damage, and repeat the process every time the wine respawns to make a tidy sum. https://i.imgur.com/lhHRYmf.png

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Eventually my magic stat is too low for me to steal wines, or my inventory is full. At which point I can go home and sell the wine

bitter stream
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ah wow, that's kinda funny

bitter stream
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because apart from the old remakes of yoshi games, I can't think of much else that lets you play as yoshi outside the party games

arctic fern
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there was the 64 ds remake?

gaunt marten
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Yes

arctic fern
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thats the only 3d 3ds mario game i can think of

bitter stream
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ah true ,but I don't think there's a section in that that has Bowser in a donkey kong style level? though it's been a long time so who knows

arctic fern
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there were minigames, i dont remember all of them

bitter stream
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fair enough, i'll check

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this is a DK style mario level from Super Mario 3D Land.

arctic fern
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3d land! never played that one

shell shore
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No

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It was really colorful and stuff

bitter stream
shell shore
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Even chatgpt couldn’t find it

gaunt marten
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We'll have to resort to the nuclear weapon

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@river veldt do you have any idea what this game is?

young creek
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the description definitely sounds like super mario 64 ds

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you play as Yoshi and have to save Mario, Luigi and Wario

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and it has a big mountain level

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the rest is your imagination filling in the blanks

river veldt
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it sounds familiar but yeah you might be conflating 3D Land and 64 DS

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this is going to bother me all day

bitter stream
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which one it is? Hopefully Maye can confirm after seeing 64 DS

wind stump
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why am i doing this to myself?

bitter stream
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no, run HC

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it's a gacha

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just run away

wind stump
slim thorn
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I thought you hadn't even seen the anime; why this gacha?

wind stump
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Why noooot?

gaunt marten
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Because you can do other things that are more fun and safe

slim thorn
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(tbf I've been told this is pretty fair on f2p players by gacha standards, but still)

wind stump
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But I wanted to play Blue Archive but Steam won't let me bocchisob

gaunt marten
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Ah, "we have blue archive at home"

bitter stream
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Surely there are better ways to consume the content of these gacha games than actually playing it?

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for example

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The story collections, there's a few of em for blue archive

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you can see all the story, and not have to risk exposure to gambling mechanics

random steppe
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I mean, if you want to play a game, the play part is probably somewhat part of what you are looking for rdsnrk

bitter stream
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sure, I just think it's a poor trade in like, every gacha hahah. The games are predatory by design, and that's not new in gaming, but gacha is worse on top of that with the gambling for actual play pieces

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Imagine if for chess you had to gacha to get pieces unlocked on the board, it's nuts

wind stump
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but i like gambling!

bitter stream
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Well I can't stop you, but please be careful? it's not a particularly safe hobby.

wind stump
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i'll be oke SPEEN

slim thorn
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are you planning to stick to f2p?

wind stump
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yesh

slim thorn
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that probably does address the personal financial safety concern

visual hill
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anything is possible nowadays sweetiestare

slim thorn
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not that I've played any of these myself but I've heard that there's a few gachas like Uma Musume and Ark Knights that are fairly easy to play 100% free

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(especially from people who dropped Mihoyo games because they are, uh, not as easy lol)

bitter stream
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Aye, that's something I've heard too. I don't think I'll say more lol, I feel like i'd be harping on and the points are obvious anyway.

visual hill
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I try to minimize playing F2P games myself, even though I'm not the kind of person who regularly buys in-game purchases anyway

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(I've only ever bought a map stamp for TF2 premium access, and two battle passes in CS:GO - and you could mostly recoup the battle pass investment by selling the items you got)

slim thorn
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I'm in a weird limbo with respect to all of these issues because none of the genres which got gacha'd are ones I actually play, so none of the gacha games have any intrinsic appeal to me to be tempted by in the first place

bitter stream
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yeah I hear you calinou, I'm kinda unsure whether to get out of F2P games myself, even the ones with "consumer friendly" monetisation.

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Like, what the heck do I do with warframe. Game is fun, doesn't have lootboxes or gacha. just pay for the thing you want.
OTOH some of it's MTX costs as much as Valorant skins and the Free to Play path is grindy as hell and sometimes they make it fun and sometimes they don't

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And it's kinda spread to non-f2p games too right?

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like look at any modern AAA game, they've all got MTX shops and cosmetics you can buy like a f2p game, but without the free path

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Especially in any multiplayer sphere

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Rainbow 6 Siege went the Counter Strike route, with skins, lootboxes, and a player market to sell skins to each other for in-game currency

river veldt
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only f2p game i've ever gotten into was fortnite

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but that was a long time ago

bitter stream
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fair enough, that game makes a ton of content

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and I dearly wish they hadn't made "LLM AI Voice generated Darth Vader"

river veldt
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yeah....

slim thorn
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my lack of interest in multiplayer is probably the main concrete reason gacha/mtx has yet to intersect with what I personally play

bitter stream
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yeah, that makes sense. Multiplayer has a lot of push to sell skins and make constant money from it's userbase. as well is just being hella profitable

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look at fortnites revenue without any lootboxes

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it's kinda nuts, and why many games chase it

visual hill
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we got rid of lootboxes but now we have grindy battle passes and cosmetics that are really out of place... we kind of traded one problem with another

slim thorn
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multiplayer games have also always been the games that tried to "last forever", while everyone expects a single player game to eventually run out of content and then you move on to another thing unless you're some kind of speedrunner

bitter stream
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aye, Multiplayer games, the players are the content so to speak. Put 10 people in a map and you'll get infinite possible variations with as simple a setup as Counter Strike

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I think that's part of why hero shooters ( along side the selling of skins for heroes) are so effective in the multiplayer space. they have unique tools for the multiplayer arena

slim thorn
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and why that genre is so perfect for the parasocial gacha nonsense we started all this with

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not that Uma Musume is a "shooter" but these all revolve around having characters with distinct abilities

random steppe
bitter stream
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People would "hack" it to say all kinds of racist stuff in the lobby

random steppe
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Listen, you don't need to hack Darth Vader to hear racist stuff in a fortnite lobby

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It's always a bad day to have ears there

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It had some growing pains, it was patched quick enough tho

bitter stream
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hmm. I'll have to look into it I guess. It was really unpleasant at the time I stopped playing.

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You could mute players, but not darth vader

wind stump
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-# i'm sorry for mentioning gacha AkashiHide

random steppe
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I don't really play the game, but I'm gonna be honest, hearing Darh Vader talk with Hatsune Miku about strategy is funny as fuck

bitter stream
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yeah, there's some great clips on youtube and such

random steppe
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I'm mostly concerned about people not getting their work stolen, and Darth Vader, seems like was on the up and up, with the actor having signed the rights for their voice to be used that way consensually.

There are concerns for sure, like, if companies try to push those kind of contracts to people, so hopefully people are able to negotiate so it's not something that VAs are expected to give the rights for in exchange for peanuts

bitter stream
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I guess I might as well re-install fortnite lol, I enjoyed the gameplay before, it'll be neat to see a new season of stuff

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I'm not sure if I'm too easy to convince or if it's good that I can change my mind about things hahah

shell shore
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Im begging BEGGGING the crk gods

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I don’t even wanna use her i just cannot handle not having all the cookies

wind stump
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speaking of being addicted to gacha-

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actually i don't know what the fuck cookie run kingdom is

shell shore
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Its making me pull my hair out

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ITS BEEN 2 MONTHS and i STILLLLL dont have her

wind stump
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yeah looking it up it's giving me everything BUT what the fuck the gameplay even IS

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i DON'T CARE ABOUT THE LORE JUST TELL ME HOW THE FUCK THE GAME WORKS

gaunt marten
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Just watch someone play it

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(It's opening lootboxes)

slim thorn
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"gacha" might not be a genre term if every gacha game was required to have an actual game game underneath the gacha part

wind stump
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okay, christ, it's a city builder/sorta idle RPG type game
WAS THAT SO DIFFICULT

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-# yes. clearly.

shell shore
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I always skip the cutscenes

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And about that city building stuff, i dont do shit lmao

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My cookies are homeless

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They drink the ocean water and eat the grass

shell shore
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I forgot to share but i got tomodachi on my phone and now my oc is being sassy

cunning galleon
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Got me scares for a sec

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2 500lb dumb bombs landed on where the craters are and this beast hunk of metal survived both with a lot of damage to the tracks, sideskirt and main cannon

fickle garnet
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The new REPO update is great. I really like the expressions

visual hill
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Zelda x Ace Attorney crossover romhack 🙂

wind stump
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ah yes, who do we have for Phoenix's stand in?
THE MUTE KID

worldly summit
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NEWER TEAM???

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I never could have predicted this comeback

shell shore
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My collection grows

river veldt
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luigi

visual hill
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I've started playing Just Cause 2 again, I remember almost 10 years ago when I first tried it

cunning galleon
cunning galleon
bitter stream
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is this a car mechanic game? or a racer?

cunning galleon
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Drive to the end of time survival game

cunning galleon
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It's just a game, it's just a game, it's just a game.. PLEASE just push B already

bitter stream
wind stump
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{DEMONITIZED] KIIIIICK

craggy vine
little badger
fresh bane
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I still find it weird that I basically heard nothing about Infinite and its quality or where it stands as a Halo game

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I remember all the fuss about it during the leadup to it but afterwards I just heard nothing, not even anything about the multiplayer

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the only thing I remember seeing about Infinite was || all the scenes with the ''new cortana'' which I remember some people were upset about but I thought she was really cute and the only other thing I know about Halo at all is that at like Halo 3 or 4 || || Cortana sacrifices herself because something and that's about as far as I know rdwut ||

slim thorn
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(is that "nothing" excluding my whining? lurk)

fresh bane
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If you did whine about it then I don't think I remember stormthink

slim thorn
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Ixrec — 6/13/25, 12:02
Infinite is the least interesting for gameplay. It's still fun, but IMO everything it does well was already done well in 1-5 (especially 3), so it's the only main entry I never felt like replaying. In particular, "open world" just doesn't make sense for Halo. It was never that kind of game.

Ixrec — 6/11/25, 13:11
I was the only one who liked 5's story and I was upset that Infinite basically said "that all got resolved off-screen, don't worry about it, now let's redo a strange mish-mash of plot points from 4 and 5 since none of you remember those right"

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I think that covers it

fresh bane
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Oh, I thought you meant you talked about it all the way back not just that convo a week or two ago, I do remember that

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but even then the fact that that's all you had to say about it kinda proves my point rdlol at least with some of the other Halos people go on and on about how much they like or hate so and so but with Infinite it's like ''oh yeah it came out, it was... fine''

slim thorn
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yeah, usually when a game gets regular chatter it's because people are playing it, so even the games people are complaining about are ones still good enough to play (or at least skilled enough at manipulating you that you haven't broken free yet)

visual hill
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d_xcLp_rlw
first steps towards playable Driveclub in ShadPS4 (at 60 FPS no less) 🙂

ShadPS4 v0.9.1 WIP main 70e4f81
https://shadps4.net/

***Go to ShadPS4 settings, then General and choose Nightly as Update Channel.

ShadPS4 Discord invite
https://discord.com/invite/bFJxfftGW6

FAQ

▶▶▶The game doesn't start, i get a black screen.
You need sys_modules for this game, don't ask (of say) where to get them (it's piracy)...

▶ Play video
bitter stream
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ooh what is ShadPS4? I can see it's an emulator, but like is it a new one?

visual hill
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PS4 emulator, it already runs Bloodborne from start to finish

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Gravity Rush I think is also playable right now?

bitter stream
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oh damn, I should look this up

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Wipeout Omega Collection is such a vibe

visual hill
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Driveclub is a highly sought-after game, it's Sony's attempt at a Forza (Horizon) killer

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it was a commercial failure, but it's remembered for its very good graphics by 2013 standards

bitter stream
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ah yeah

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and now forza is on playstation too

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ah damn, looks like Omega Collection Wipeout doesn't even boot on NVIDA GPUs

visual hill
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compatibility varies a lot across platforms right now, more so than any other emulator I know

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only 5 games are reported to be playable on macOS

little badger
fresh bane
blissful sand
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yo

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anyone play battlefront II and wanna squad up ?

fresh bane
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(fun fact that reminds me that canonically in the MGS universe Kaz is actually a pioneer of idol culture and one of the first idol managers considering he fully wrote Koi no Yokushiryoku and had Paz sing and perform it at a motherbase event in like 1974)

visual hill
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I have it on EGS but I think it's cross-play?

blissful sand
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it is cross play!

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esg will make you go through EA, and then i recommend only lauching through EA

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egs launching ea then bfII does some wonky stuff sometimes

visual hill
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I use Heroic anyway, I've never installed the actual EGS app

blissful sand
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i'm going to bed now, feeling sick, i think i ate something expired

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but i'm playing it basically everyday so tomorrow let's go if you're up!!

visual hill
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ah

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sure, I think I'm available tomorrow. I'll install the game and configure stuff

blissful sand
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it's very well optimized so i think you can go for ultra everything

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i can go full ultra on a gtx 970 4g and an i7 8x

visual hill
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probably, I target 4K 225 FPS though 😛

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but I can do that just fine on Forza Horizon 4, for instance

blissful sand
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i do 144fps 1080p

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iirc you got a beast pc

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i'm sure it'll be more than capable of handling it

visual hill
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I mean yes, 9950X3D + 5090

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literally nothing faster on the planet as we speak sweetiestare

blissful sand
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yeah if you got any issue with it then wtf lol

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it's a well optimized 2017 game

visual hill
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when I was on the Corporate Clash pride parade, I went down to 12-13 FPS due to the sheer single-threaded CPU load

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it turns out the game is not particularly designed to draw 200+ toons at once

blissful sand
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also bf II has a cool gamemode that can theoritically go forever until a team win

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and that's p cool

visual hill
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kind of like Foxhole, I guess?

blissful sand
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i don't know about it but maybe

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you start on the ground, if you win the ground assault you get to attack the enemy spaceship

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to win you have to destroy their reactor cores

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if you don't do it in the available time, you go back to the ground

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and you can go between the two teams ships for as long as it takes

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the space battles also are very good

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the coop modes, the different pvp gamemodes etc

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good game

visual hill
# visual hill I use Heroic anyway, I've never installed the actual EGS app

well, looks like it can't work with Heroic anymore due to EA app updates that broke its integration: https://github.com/Heroic-Games-Launcher/HeroicGamesLauncher/issues/4563

GitHub

Describe the bug When trying to launch Star Wars Battlefront 2: Celebration Edition from the Epic Games store it always quits with the message bwrap: Can't chdir to /app/bin/heroic/resources/ap...

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I guess I'll need to install the full-blown EGS, which I wanted to avoid

blissful sand
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yeah i don't even launch it through egs but you still need it

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and that sucks

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it's on steam for 5 bucks rn though i think

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but still will gotrhough EA

visual hill
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it's the Doom 2016 curse

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it's why you shouldn't have hard FPS caps, gamers from the future will suffer from it

fresh bane
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I know it's probably an important issue for those who push their computers to the limit and have high end systems and all, but as someone who grew up most of their life playing old games on old computers and playing any ''modern'' game (any game released ~2010) at the absolute lowest settings just to get a stable 25-30fps it always amuses me when I see people talking online and sometimes complaining about a game ''only'' going up to 1440p resolution or ''only'' going up to 120fps or something rdlol

cerulean herald
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I remember the olden days when 60 fps was considered good enough

river veldt
fresh bane
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and to be fair MGSV is a crazy well optimized game, I hear Death Stranding 2 is too

visual hill
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MGSV is capped at 60 FPS by default, you can mod it but it will break grenades (they are stuck in the air when you throw them)

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it's too bad because everything else is flawless, and MGS' movement is sublime at high framerates

fresh bane
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Which is a funny comparison to bring up, because I've seen a lot of gamers upset that DS2 apparently looks bad but it's really just angry twitter people using screenshots of distant mountains to make the game look bad for some weird reason

visual hill
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the way the animation and camera work is done just becomes even better

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DS2 isn't on PC yet, we'll know more about how it works under the hood once it gets a PC port

fresh bane
visual hill
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it's on the Decima engine like the first game (and like Horizon), that's all we know

fresh bane
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It's not but I just heard that it runs extremely well and it also looks incredible, which is pretty much exactly what they did back in 2014 with MGSV, that game was absolute insanity

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I still fully believe games don't really need to look any better than that

visual hill
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anyway, I got everything up and running

visual hill
fresh bane
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Yeaaah but I do really think we're getting there now though, especially after a game like GTA 6 comes out and it sets a completely new bar for any games made after
But I wasn't exactly saying this is as good as graphics are gonna get, I'm just saying I genuinely believe games don't need to look any better than what most games achieved already in like 2018, I just fundamentally disagree that resources and time need to be spent (or wasted) on trying to get fancier rather than on other more important stuff when it comes to games, but I know that's not the way it's gonna go

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that said I'll accept fancier mocap tech like what DS2 is doing, some of these expressions and physics stuff is uncannily good, or the scrunchy noses from the trailer
I just am fine with not having the maximum poly count or the highest res 8k textures on everything (at least let me choose to install those separately)

fresh bane
visual hill
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also, this is still quite a good-looking game for its time, Tatooine at night with HDR is pretty striking

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it could have better antialiasing (DLAA would be ideal for my use case) but it's not too bad

fresh bane
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Which is why I say what I say, Battlefront 2 is another game where I look at it and I just think ''games could stay like this forever and I'd be more than fine with that'', it helps that it also actually runs really good

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I thought I'd be pushing it with putting everything on max for this game but it actually still runs perfectly fine for me

gaunt marten
bitter stream
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oh awesome

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that's handy for troubleshooting

fickle garnet
#

Is Resident Evil Zero good?

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Its $7 and i was thinking of buying it

fresh bane
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It's good if you're a Resident Evil fan specifically a classic Resident Evil fan

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for anybody else, I would say eh, if 7 bucks is money you're fine parting with and you're willing to go into it and see if you like it sure

fickle garnet
#

I really enjoy Resident Evil, so I decided to buy it

fresh bane
#

If you're already pretty into, and I mean pretty into RE then it can be a pretty good time, but it's always been a game that went under the radar and people never seemed to fully like for valid reasons, since it tries to do things a bit differently and it doesn't always quite hits the mark, but it has enough redeemable qualities that there are people out there that still love the game despite the questionable design choices and frustrating mechanics

craggy vine
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izzynothoughtsheadempty When the game physics start to break at above 30 fps

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And the in game fps cap is either 30 or nothing making an unplayable mess izzynothoughtsheadempty

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Doom 1 on ms dos had a 35 fps cap

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twicry gamers when doom 1 only gets 1000 fps on their rtx 5090

wind stump
slim thorn
# fickle garnet Is Resident Evil Zero good?

Having played Zero from start to finish, it's a mixed bag. Story's pretty dumb/whatever, but the gameplay can be as fun as any other RE if you're prepared for the problems.

The opening Train area is pretty great, to the point that on sale I'd say it's worth buying even if you just play that part and then drop it.

Most of the issues are with how the game's "two controllable characters" work. Unfortunately there is no shared inventory, each character's inventory is quite small, switching mid-combat is impractical, the AI can't be relied on for shooting efficiently, and no ender chests like in most REs. So (post-Train) in practice the system basically demands you leave all your extra items on the foyer floor, then play as one character the whole time with the other being a pack mule. Until specific parts of the game where you're forced to play as one or the other.

The biggest problem is the few places when you're forced to play as only one character without any prior warning or way back to give you a chance to shuffle around inventory items, potentially losing access to half your weapons/ammo, which post-Train can effectively be a softlock. So you're gonna want to be very paranoid about saves, or regularly talk to someone who knows where these points are.

visual hill
fickle garnet
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I really do not like having to control two characters in RE0

slim thorn
#

iirc only Rebecca can mix herbs so I mostly played as her when given the choice

fickle garnet
#

I was having fun with the game untill I had to start controlling two characters

slim thorn
#

pack mule strats ftw

wind stump
#

The Mana has Escalated.

bitter stream
#

ugh, why do I suck at anti gravity racers. It's such a cool genre, but when I play it i'm rebounding into walls, missing item usage, and just going slow.
Maybe this s another "Fighting Game" genre for me.

slim thorn
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maybe, I've noticed I tend to adapt to that kind of non-euclidean stuff better than some people

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if I liked racing games more in the first place I'd probably click with the anti-grav kind

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in fact I have the fighting game problem even in non-fighting games; some Igavanias (including Bloodstained: RotN) have fighting game-like combo moves which I can't execute reliably enough to use in practice

bitter stream
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yeah fair enough

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Motion Inputs can be a barrier, though the utility they bring can be cool too

slim thorn
#

my impression was that the vast majority of motion controls have traditional button/key equivalents that are just better (or would be if implemented properly)

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with the main exception being point-at-screen aiming

bitter stream
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hmm... that's, not what I meant

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Motion Inputs as in Quarter Circles, DragonPunch motions, etc

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let me find some notation, I don't have it on hand

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this sort of stuff

slim thorn
#

oooh

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yeah that's the kind of thing RotN wanted me to do and it just doesn't work reliably when I try it

bitter stream
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aye! that's part of the point, at least in fighting games. I'm less confident about keeping it as a main enabler in non-competitive games

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It can be funny secret input stuff, but it can also just be a pointless barrier

slim thorn
#

it is hard for me to judge since I've never put in the time to break through the barrier

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but it's also really easy to tell that it is a significant reason why I dismissed these entire genres as not for me back when I was new to gaming and trying all the genres I heard of

bitter stream
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that's understandable. I can explain some of why I like their existance in fighting games if that'd be of interest, even though I've not broken that barrier myself, at least not to the level of consistent playing with them

slim thorn
#

sure

bitter stream
#

so, where to begin.

  1. Many different moves from limited buttons. This is arguably the fundemental use of motion inputs. With a directional input ( historically an arcade stick) and as few as 2 buttons you can give a character a ton of moves.
slim thorn
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yeah, it's pretty easy to see why it was necessary in the days of arcade cabinets, and maybe easier to execute with an actual arcade stick

bitter stream
#

mhm!

  1. Skill expression inside the game system under high pressure. This is harder for me to explain, but the skill ceiling for competive games with motion inputs let's people do wild stuff, and if the ceiling is high enough, even have unique styles with the same characters.
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It's easier in training mode to pull a perfect combo, but pulling it off at a tournament against an opponent is a different boardgame

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there's even a like, "push-pull" aspect to competing with them

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Do you go for the hard stuff to optimise damage? or take easier buttons inorder to react faster?

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Anti Airs are the classic version of this in Street Fighter

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Dragon Punch motions give you invuln, high covering anti-airs

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but a Crouching HP will also anti-air in a pinch

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They beat more options with the DP, but you can whiff the input, or not input fast enough

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It's why someone like Daigo and other pro's get well known for "great execution"

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You can know all the right counters, but you've got to be able to input them.

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And there's weirder stuff too

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Like Option Selects

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err, how to explain... TL:DR if you put a certain set of inputs into the buffer of say, Streetfighter, you get different moves based on what the opponent does, getting the right option depending on what came out.

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An option select is basically when a player inputs commands (often times for multiple moves) and the output is different depending on the priority of each move given in the current situation.

The most commonly used option select is a crouch tech option select. You hold down + back and press lp + lk in sync with the opponents attacks. If they attack, no move comes out because you will be in block stun. If they do nothing, a lk will come out since lk takes priority over lp. If they throw, you will tech the throw.
-from a reddit post

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it's really really high level stuff, that makes watching pro FGC players so fun to watch

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I'm sure someone more involved could say more here, but that's about the extent I can easily explain for 2.

slim thorn
#

that's probably as far as I can get in a few minutes anyway

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I had to stop and think to figure out that lp/k probably mean low punch/kick

bitter stream
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close enough!

slim thorn
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lol

bitter stream
#
  1. You can balance characters through their inputs.
    Guile vs Ryu is the usual example
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To "flash kick" a guile has to be holding down or down back (I think). This means that on defence, they can have it charged and ready to go, but on offence, they lose access to it as to move forward, you can't hold down or down back.

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Super moves fall into this too

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Usually requiring 2 sequential motion inputs

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like Quarter Circle Forward +Quarter Circle Forward --> Punch

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It takes more time to input, so it can be slower than other moves.

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You can get really wacky with this

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like Guilty Gear Strives Half Circle inputs for Behemoth Typhoon... for the big guy with the alien in a coffin

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can't recall his name

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It's a strong move, but you'll be slower to get it out

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TL:DR, influence play patterns by what moves require what inputs to use.

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That's sort of the Big 3 for me, and there are plenty of Fighting Games that don't require motion inputs but capture much of the same complexity

slim thorn
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yeah this all makes sense to me in a multiplayer context

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I guess I'm used to most of the same goals being achieved in single player games with cooldowns/charges/resources, or with simpler forms of the overlapping/faraway inputs technique

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like in Nine Sols, there's an insane amount of skill expression in the final fight because almost everything in your toolkit is a valid way of dodging and/or punishing most boss attacks, but many are easier or harder than others, which is where you get things like the "level 0" version of that fight being so much fun to practice because it's not just same fight no mistakes, it forces me to dodge and attack in completely different ways than I usually do

bitter stream
#

that sounds like a lot of fun to practice/execute

slim thorn
#

my favorite example of that is probably Eigong's "crimson slam"

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in a normal playthrough you'll probably use the Unbounded Counter / superparry move to just completely negate it and get some easy damage after she's stunned (and the fight's plenty hard for a new player even with this option), since the wind-up is nice and long

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but on level 0, you simply don't have UC, so either you run away from it entirely, or you have to practice this sequence of moves where as she slams down her sword, you dodge under her, then jump, then attack the back of her head, and if you get the timing wrong then her sword or the fire generated by it will hurt you

bitter stream
#

sweet

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This sounds like some hollow knight kinda combat

slim thorn
#

it's definitely closer to Hollow Knight than a typical Metroid or a Castelvania

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although a lot of people prefer Nine Sols specifically because the combat is more complex / typically has more options than in Hollow Knight

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(standing on the shoulders of giants and such)

bitter stream
#

that's fair, I'll have to look into it once I get through Hollow knight

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or, if I get through hollow knight lmao

slim thorn
#

meanwhile a lot of people prefer Hollow Knight because it's one of the most non-linear metroidvanias, so easy to get lost in and yet (unlike seemingly every Igavania marblegrump) difficult to get truly stuck with nowhere left to explore

bitter stream
#

what's an Igavania btw?

#

Hollow Knight is just kind of beautiful too

slim thorn
#

so, the term "Igavania" refers to Koji Igarashi, who was heavily involved in many Castlevanias and (after Konami stopped being a video game company) the Bloodstaineds

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as a genre term it's basically "the Castlevania side of metroidvanias", since you can't really say that "Bloodstained is a Castlevania"

bitter stream
#

Ah I see, that makes a weird kind of sense

slim thorn
#

fwiw I currently see metroidvanias as having roughly three subgenres; the Metroid-likes, the Igavanias, and the modern post-Hollow Knight/Dark Souls ones

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but afaict "Igaavnia" is the only one of the three that has a name at all

bitter stream
#

huh, neat

#

I suppose because Metroidvania used to be a more accurate umbrella term

slim thorn
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back when Metroids and (post-SotN) Castlevanias were most of the genre, yeah

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I'm sure fans of other genres have a similar tree of microgenres or at least design tropes in their head

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like there's probably some huge differences between the 80s and 90s "D&D but digital" CRPGs, and the Larian-era(???) CRPG revivals that I am completely unable to articulate

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and I don't even know if there's a chunk in between or if the genre was truly 100% dead in the middle lol

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I know fighting games have the "platform fighters" subgenre, and there's also that distinction between fully 2D ones and the ones where you can sidestep along the z-axis so it's sorta 3d?

bitter stream
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aye, that makes sense to me. RTS was quieter for a long while too, though more in the sense of fewer big releases than being truly devoid

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aye it's true with fighters, though there are subdivisions used commonly under them too

slim thorn
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but since I'm really into metroidvanias I can point at specific things, like how almost all of my favorite ones since HK/DS have adopted a Souls-like bonfire and estus flask system, as well as an HK-like charm system

hushed onyx
slim thorn
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oh yeah the early kickstarter era

bitter stream
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heh, I kickstarted a few RPG books, for 5E DND, but i never really got them to the table

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I would have loved to back some boardgames, but I saw so many examples go poorly that I'm thoroughly scared off

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Thanks for the conversation around these topics btw, it's been nice.

slim thorn
#

another fun example might be that almost all of my favorite metroidvanias since HK/DS have primarily melee combat (traditionally, that'd be "the Castlevania side" of the genre) but also have very high mobility like i-frame dodges/rolls and air dashes (traditionally, "the Metroid side")

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in fact I can't think of one before Hollow Knight which has both of those

bitter stream
#

ah, interesting

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it does make for fun platforming and combat

slim thorn
#

now that you mention it, I can't think of a segment in an Igavania where the platforming itself was a major part of the challenge (unlike e.g. HK's White Palace), usually even something like double jump or literal flight is "just" a progression gate

bitter stream
#

hmm, would the clockwork towers count? though i guess that's more enemy spam than precise platforming

slim thorn
#

yeah, avoiding medusa heads is as close as it gets

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honestly "is there a clock tower with tiny floating enemies" is one of the easiest litmus tests for whether a metroidvania is an Igavania rdsnrk

bitter stream
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hahah fair enough

slim thorn
#

Bloodstained: RotN managed to up the ante by doing a 2.5D clock tower where you run around the half-broken spiral ramp along the outside of it

bitter stream
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oh nice, that's cool

slim thorn
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(and then it had a whole second tower that was secretly a boss arena: #1032716748887179434 message )

bitter stream
slim thorn
#

I should really finish that, I'm literally one boss away from credits

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as much as I prefer the Metroid-likes and the HK-likes, RotN is easily the best Igavania I've tried so far, just a straight upgrade from Aria of Sorrow

bitter stream
#

nice nice, go for it! It'll feel nice to have it squared away

gaunt marten
#

Take fourteen unstringed emerald amulets I made earlier, and fourteen balls of wool, make fourteen proper emerald amulets. Once all one thousand are made sell them on the grand exchange

gaunt marten
fresh bane
#

The revelation games are ones I would totally recommend if they're dirt cheap on sale right now, both of them are great games, I got both like two sales ago for basically pocket change

#

Why am I Canadian? ajwhomstdve

gaunt marten
#

It's Canada day

fresh bane
#

Ah

cerulean herald
#

do we get to receive free maple syrup

wind stump
#

Why does Byleth leave her stomach exposed?

gaunt marten
#

You and I know the answer to this

wind stump
#

maybe
but i wanted to point it out

slim thorn
#

unrealistic eye candy armor may be an omnipresent trope, but I still find it immersion-breaking

wind stump
#

still better than Corrin not wearing shoes at all

proud warren
#

Tbf I think it has to do with their curse also affecting their feet, rendering shoes a pointless investment

wind stump
#

that sounds more like a solution looking for a problem

proud warren
#

I mean you saw what happens to their hands and feet when they go dragon mode

wind stump
#

You know what, I'll concede on that one, that does make some sense.

visual hill
#

@fresh bane @blissful sand you around for Battlefront 2?

blissful sand
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Shi I just stopped playing

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Spilled ice tea on my PC and lost the will to play for tonight 😔

visual hill
#

ah, too bad

#

I won't be available tomorrow, but maybe Thursday

fresh bane
visual hill
fresh bane
#

There's a lot more Calinous in here than I thought

#

I hope I got the right one

visual hill
#

now how does it work? It seems I'm the party leader

fresh bane
#

alright, let me know if you're done customizing your characters and all that

#

It should be me, I invited you, I guess we'll see once I pick a gamemode I never did this before

visual hill
#

alright

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I haven't done any character customization, I'm still brand new

#

so feel free to start searching a game

#

I have little experience playing Battlefield-style games in general, all I know is that it's a bit like TF2 but on a larger scale

#

and you have abilities like Overwatch, I noticed

fresh bane
#

You probably won't have much to do still because you start unlocking starting at lvl 2 so maybe after we play a round or two but you can pick some skins if you bought the celebration edition

#

So I'm probably gonna go with Supremacy for the sake of simplicity, it's basically capture command posts style gameplay, there's galactic assault but that's all about going through various objectives and I feel like supremacy is probably better as a simple gamemode to just sort of get used to playing first

visual hill
#

I have the celebration edition

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I got an error

fresh bane
#

Yeah I'm looking for a game again, it must be freaking out because we're nowhere close to each other and it doesn't know which server to pick from rdlol

visual hill
#

probably, I remember reading somewhere that I should change my matchmaking region

#

the ping site in the EA account settings

fresh bane
#

You can do that? stormthink

visual hill
#

I suppose you're on the Brazil one? I can switch to that one

#

or we can use both Virginia, so latency is not as bad on my end

fresh bane
#

well we found a match apparently

visual hill
#

did you crash? I don't see you anymore

fresh bane
#

Yeah I got disconnected for a second there I'm joining again though

visual hill
#

there's a guy with force lightning who is basically unkillable 😢

fresh bane
#

Palpatine lol yeah once you get enough points you can play a hero

visual hill
#

we got destroyed but it's fun

fresh bane
#

So if you want you can do the server switch thing but I don't know if it's gonna be too much of a problem

visual hill
#

I got many kills by playing Chewbacca and camping a point, using abilities randomly

fresh bane
#

You should be able to customize some characters now probably

visual hill
#

yeah I've changed it to Virginia

visual hill
#

this is the second time I blast a Grevious with a rocket launcher and he's resistant to it sweetiestare

fresh bane
#

they're pretty tough especially if they got any cards that maximize their health or health regeneration

#

but luckily Grievous can't block blaster fire

astral steeple
#

Wow I'm actually kinda tempted to update warzone again and buy the beavis and butthead tiers lol

visual hill
#

I did a bit better in tihs one (8th out of 20), still figuring out what ability does what

#

F1 has helpful descriptions but you need to test them in practice to see what they're worth 😛

visual hill
#

@fresh bane did you crash?

fresh bane
#

got dc'd I'm on queue to join the server again

visual hill
#

TIL trying to melee the generator kills you

fresh bane
visual hill
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gg, first game won 🙂

fresh bane
#

we actually won that one

#

yeah

visual hill
#

also, I found that on this map, you can capture some of the points by standing on the roof

fresh bane
#

So we can also go for galactic assault if you want, which is less about the constant tug and pull of command post capturing and more about single objectives each team has to do if you want

fresh bane
#

Oh you joined another game cause we got separated

#

I'll try to join your game

visual hill
#

yeah

#

oh you have a green reticle
it's a shame you can't make the crosshair smaller, I find it too large

fresh bane
#

I do too, but the rifles are kind of not super accurate anyways so I find it weirdly helps

visual hill
fresh bane
#

eh only if you want it's not necessary, I'm joining your game already

visual hill
#

ah, I didn't understand you needed to hold G to board

#

I was just standing there below the vehicle

fresh bane
#

Yeah it's confusing

#

not very well explained rdlol

#

alright let's blow them up

#

woooooo

visual hill
#

ggs! I'll call it a night

fresh bane
#

yeah those went a bit longer

visual hill
#

I did pretty well on this one, 3rd or 4th on our team's scoreboard

#

my strategy was to keep all the points to respawn as enforcer all the time during the final phases

fresh bane
#

if you get your ship boarded and fend the enemy off you go back to the ground and do it again

#

so those can go pretty long lol

#

after playing for a bit you get a specific card that gives you more points during the match

#

so you can pick heroes and different classes more often

#

but I like the default classes

fresh bane
#

also luckily we encountered no cheaters

#

I hear those are a big problem still

shell shore
#

I FINALLY GOT HER

#

SHES MINEREEEUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHSHBAHAHAH

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2 MONTHS

#

HAHSHEHEHEH

fresh bane
#

I just played around with the camera settings because I like a semi-fixed camera system but it also lets you tweak around the controls and the aiming to your liking, you can even set the option to disable the fixed camera while aiming if you don't want the fixed camera auto-aim or manual aim which is really really cool
in an ideal world they would offer this as an option officially, maybe as a neat unlockable after finishing the game, although as much as I really want that to be I also realize that designing an experience around either fixed camera or third person and slapping the other one on top later doesn't quite exactly work perfectly, but at this point I'll take a slapped on fixed camera option regardless, but I doubt that would happen anytime soon abflat I guess this will have to make do for now

gaunt marten
#

Apparently this NPC was the host of the 2017, 2022, 2023, and 2024 pride events

#

Apparently the current CEO is a coward who cancelled this year's, overruling lower staff's desire

green fulcrum
dense crypt
#

Yeah it is. Great character designs and theyre frickin COOKIE

bronze abyss
worldly summit
#

everything I'm picking up in the steam sale

gaunt marten
#

Hell yeah

bitter stream
#

enjoy Bin200

gaunt marten
#

Crosscode is one of my favorite games of all time

visual hill
uneven epoch
#

PinkieSnapped ouuuuugh spiritfarer.........

#

very good game but watch out

blissful sand
#

EA launcher sucks so much oh my god

#

I got a new drive

#

And you can't change a game file's location

#

I gotta download the whole ass game again

visual hill
#

I found a solution on reddit actually

bronze abyss
visual hill
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not tested on my end

blissful sand
#

I'm doing this :')

#

It just got stuck at 6% for 10 minutes

visual hill
#

I was looking for a way to open the game's installation folder and found that video by chance

blissful sand
#

I just started doing it again

quiet swift
green fulcrum
blissful sand
#

EA is the worst launcher

#

How is steam so old with so few updates better than any recent launcher with big updates every months

#

EA discontinued the origin launcher for their EA launcher just to make it worse when it was already trash 😭

gaunt marten
#

Steam updates more than most other launchers

#

Are you not paying attention when I talk about new features they add?

random steppe
#

I would agree that Steam having had like 20 years to develop and mature is like, the main edge it has over the competition.
That said, EA launchers are especially shit even compared to more recent competition

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Also, I like steam, but they should really knock off with facilitating child gambling in their games

bitter stream
#

lol yeah, CS 2 being like, the prime example

random steppe
#

It's especially that it's actual gambling and not like, gamgling-like mechanics that makes it especially bad even for the low low standard of the industry

bitter stream
#

yeah... T_T. None of the regulators seem to care though, despite people suggesting, hey, shouldn't we like, do somethign abotu that

random steppe
#

To be fair, it's complicated.
And precedent probably works in their favour legally speaking, that said they should like...stop

#

Regardless of the legality of it

arctic fern
#

#stopkillinggames https://www.stopkillinggames.com/
EU and UK folks there are two petitions to sign up for to maybe have something changed about games you already owned being removed from the market and shut down completely

astral steeple
#

Tf

I updated call of duty on my xbox one and it was 113gb and now it said there was another update which was 115gb

little badger
#

@green fulcrum Jurassic park is coming to crossworlds

cunning galleon
#

My tank got shaved why does it look like that 😭

#

The ass was bombarded with a shit ton of 50cal and i almost died, but MGed his gunner and crew because open top

astral steeple
#

BRO??????

#

STAN????????

cunning galleon
#

What the fuck is this

astral steeple
#

Call of duty X American dad lmao

wind stump
#

ah yes
not being able to see the screen is nice

toxic seal
#

Papoutsis is currently leading Striking Distance Studios, the team behind The Callisto Protocol, as Chief Executive Officer.
Oh no

cunning galleon
#

Hello gaymers and gamers alike, is persona 5 worth picking up?

river veldt
#

if you can tolerate 10 hours of tutorials yeah i think so

#

it clearly wasn't for me but people enjoy it for a reason

slim thorn
#

yeah, it's one of those long JRPGs that expects a big upfront commitment to get the most of out of it

#

(I watched someone else play through it so I got to see the story)

fickle garnet
slim thorn
#

competition breeds imitation