general gaming

[gaunt marten]

Yeah the problem is he can't write whatever he wants

[slim thorn]

it's more involved than that but sort of

[river veldt]

🤔

what is this game

[gaunt marten]

It's a reddit post

[river veldt]

what

[gaunt marten]

This

[slim thorn]

think a modern Resident Evil game with a more Twin Peaks-y setting and story

[sour hill]

TWIM PEAKS

someone said twin peaks

I need this game now

[slim thorn]

I'm still disappointed the coffee lady did not have a log

to be clear it's not that quirky

but it's definitely in that direction compared to the REs

[gaunt marten]

Yeah coffee makes you poop

[slim thorn]

that would explain why the whole Coffee World level is abandoned

I still have no idea what's going to happen at Deerfest but I can't stop laughing every time someone says "Deerfest" in a deathly serious tone of voice

[sour hill]

Idk deerfest sounds a bit ominous

@rain flax

[river veldt]

that does sound vaguely ominous

[little badger]

I own a able but it’s nice sometimes where you don’t need to worry incase you yank it out by accident

I’ve actually not played that one

[sour hill]

To begin the adventure

Giving this star wars thing a go

[gaunt marten]

https://steamdb.info/app/2021210/history/?changeid=U:44214401

https://i.imgur.com/sHqSjhD.png

[hushed onyx]

My fursona is a deer, so just reading that makes me go

[harsh kestrel]

I guess all the comments about gaming not completely dying out gives me a bit of hope, but the AI shit is just scary at this point. You never know how many people are gonna give up on games in the future if this shitty direction continues

[slim thorn]

I... really don't see how AI is a threat to gaming as a whole

there might be specific jobs, like voice acting, where for many projects AI makes more sense than paying humans, but that doesn't mean the game won't get made

far more likely, it means games on a budget where the options are "text only" vs "AI voices" might now offer both options instead of only the former

also remember that "AI" is a massive buzzword, and a lot of what people lump into that term these days has been possible for decades or more, the biggest recent change is that these tools got easy enough to use that now anyone can do them

"AI is going to kill <industry>" has the same energy as "Photoshop will kill art" or "automobiles will make horses extinct"

[thorny loom]

When i was little i use to think that horse power literally meant that it took that many horses to make an engine

[gaunt marten]

Me at the toyota factory dropping horses into the grinder.

[rotund forge]

Well duh, where do you think the horse power comes from in thos things? Gotta extract it out

[slim thorn]

when I was little, and my family watched Emperor's New Groove, I asked my parents what "extract of llama" means

[little badger]

@mossy flume https://fxtwitter.com/halo/status/1745462734622466460?

[visual hill]

https://www.pcgamer.com/jennell-jaquays-legendary-designer-who-shaped-both-tabletop-and-videogames-has-died/
I spent enough time playing Quake 2/3 that this hits hard. 😢

[little badger]

Do you have a favourite Quake game Cali?

[thorny loom]

@arctic fern lmao you called it

https://fxtwitter.com/pc_focus_/status/1745444162709680153?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[arctic fern]

people know how to crack DRM! especially when you add it to a game that didnt have it before!

even the best DRM is only a stalling tactic

all mit does is inconvenice legitimate customers! those that were gonna pirate were always gonna pirate

[visual hill]

DRM/encrypting game data is all about buying time

it never lasts forever, but when it's more intrusive, it tends to last longer

[dire gate]

Also having one is a great legal defense for game companies

Since cracking drm is by itself against DMCA

[visual hill]

most lucrative sales happen after release, so having a game that is crack-free for 3-4 months can help the studio's bottom line a lot

[little badger]

Didn’t capcom just put DRM back into older titles?

[arctic fern]

yes thats the conversaion

[little badger]

If it gets enough backlash they will probably remove it.

[gaunt marten]

Yeah in this case the games were around for years

[thorny loom]

If not theres was to circumvent it. So cracks will be appearing online soon

[gaunt marten]

If anything the crack can just be a patch to convert the game to the old no-DRM version

[wind stump]

finally, i got a fucking second card in Circle of the Moon

damn, another one dropped like 30 seconds later

[hushed onyx]

I mean, they sure made horses a lot more threatened and caused the demise of a lot of breeds...

[slim thorn]

the point was that it's an exaggeration, not that it's completely baseless

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/playstation/status/1745490856872735162?

[random steppe]

I think a more apt comparison that relates to the real threat is "automobiles will make coachmen without a job"
Which outside of the very few tourist carriages that go around, is pretty much true.

[random steppe]

Oh that's soon.
Fuck the game looks really good but Ubisoft do not, IDK if I want to give them money

[little badger]

I’ll probably download the demo later.

[wind stump]

Huh. I recall there were some flying enemies I could probably use as platforms, lol

[heady bridge]

https://www.ign.com/articles/suicide-squad-kill-the-justice-league-preview-we-played-it-and-didnt-like-it

Ooof when even IGN can’t be positive about your game in a preview then you know this is likely a real stinker.

[rain flax]

deerfest is me eating cool ranch doritos at 2 in the morning

[sour hill]

That's so real

[slim thorn]

I feel like the game was not expecting me to scavenge for resources half as much as I did

that or it's going to get a lot harder later on

[strong pebble]

Warning can be scary haha

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/insidergamingig/status/1745507836958740984? @mossy flume

[hasty patio]

https://hard-drive.net/hd/video-games/star-citizen-to-begin-offering-reverse-mortgages/

[static bluff]

lmao...

[teal cliff]

I still hope it'll be good.

[slim thorn]

it took me way too long to realize that was a Hard Drive article

[quiet swift]

https://youtube.com/shorts/ZYTNripwZjM?si=PEXt0arDIIo-iTKI

[little badger]

Well there’s a bundle that costs 48k

[strong pebble]

Is this good

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/konami/status/1745509532124766524?

[little badger]

It’s very P2W

[strong pebble]

Ok so no

What's that

[little badger]

Pay to win.

[astral steeple]

paying to win/get an advantage in games is dumb

[strong pebble]

Yeah no what's this cat

And rocket knight

[static bluff]

Felix! It's from uh...

I dunno what this cat is from, actually

[slim thorn]

one of the oldest animated cartoon characters

although a bit obscure since this young upstart named Mickey Mouse stole the spotlight by having this new-fangled technology called "sound"

[static bluff]

okay yeah that checks out. I feel like it's the kind of character I've known about literally forever

[river veldt]

who the fuck is Mickey Mouse /j

[static bluff]

Some public domain thing I think?

[slim thorn]

probably related to Oswald somehow, not sure how exactly

[thorny loom]

https://fxtwitter.com/pc_focus_/status/1745482497482236244?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/ign/status/1745517706059657691? @random steppe

[slim thorn]

good doggy

(he glitched between those rocks and can't attack me any more)

[heady bridge]

Fun fact about the Carbon Engine was it was worked on by Modern Vintage Gamer, he even did the modern ports of Shantae

[visual hill]

MVG did a lot of things

[static bluff]

True true

[rotund forge]

Have any of you unintentionally performed a glitch in a game?

What about intentionally?

I'm curious

The first glitch I ever performed was the infamous Toy Hammer glitch in Kirby and the Forgotten Land. It's surprisingly easy to do and I farmed rare stones lol

[gaunt marten]

Yeah every day

[static bluff]

In the NES game called Anticipation, when it was the horn's turn, the weirdest glitch I ever saw occurred causing it to float to the next level but it played the music all wrong and it was totally crazy ending in a wild glitch screen but I have no idea how we did it.

[gaunt marten]

In Crystal Project I did a low% run using a high jump bug that allowed me to skip to the end of the game fighting only three bosses out of about thirty

[static bluff]

lol nice

[gaunt marten]

I'd share details but as this game is exploration focused I don't want anyone to use it before they finish the game once

[static bluff]

I am so glad Speedrun.com exists. https://www.speedrun.com/anticipation/runs/ydg2rqwy

[gaunt marten]

Pretty sure I played a physical game with this board

Rather, watched people play

I have no idea how it plays

[static bluff]

Oh neat! I didn't know this nes game was based on a physical game besides pictionary

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/GWhkYIf.png

This board specifically

[static bluff]

Very cool

[gaunt marten]

Wait I'm stupid

It was parcheesi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parcheesi

[static bluff]

Ahhhh

I can see how you'd confuse the two (not kidding)

[gaunt marten]

They're topologically identical

[slim thorn]

I've heard of parcheesi many times but never learned how it works

[gaunt marten]

You win when you dice the hardest

I also played https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorry!_(game)

Though I don't recall how that played either

Why do old board games all suck

I can't enjoy a board game unless it has the equivalent of a subway surfer and two phones with tiktok going on at the same time

[wind stump]

... this new Nikke character's 3D model is on point
SHE USES HER PET LION AS A MOUNT

[arctic fern]

some classic games are pretty good, but yeah its really only in the last... 20 years or so that board games got really good

catan is way better than monopoly for example

[gaunt marten]

Catan is one exception I considered

[arctic fern]

betrayal at the house on the hill, 7 wonders, coup, resistance... so many legit great games nowdays

much more engaging than monopoly

[gaunt marten]

Never played any of those

Heard of the first two

[arctic fern]

the alst two are bluffinng/social deduction games, 7 wonders is a euro games where you're building a civilisation centring on one of the 7 anciant wonders of the world, betrayal is... weird to describe. you're in a horror b movie, but you dont know what horror movie... yet. at some point, the haunt will start, and one of the players will turn into the betrayer and fun stuff happens (its not actually a horror game, just uses horror tropes)

[minor plover]

most games were developed without a great deal of awareness of game theory (from a balance/completion perspective) and without much solid design theory (for example, an idea of having clear and concise game-ending conditions and win conditions)

[arctic fern]

i play a lot of board games lol

[minor plover]

I mean, most games from prior to the late 1990s or so, specifically

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

[minor plover]

whereas if you go into a board game shop right now and buy something newish, it'll almost certainly have reasonable balance between different players / teams and playstyles, clear and concise goals, clear ending mechanisms ("the game runs for 5 rounds" or "the game ends when any player has amassed 10 points"), and a fairly predictable amount of time for the game to take

[thorny loom]

https://youtu.be/rC9CohN2ql4?si=w4tAX47PXmxp2nQi

[quiet swift]

Excuse you, i do not have pathtracing

[thorny loom]

[teal cliff]

man

I tried unsighted bc it looked good but just like every other metroidvania Ive ever played

I am stuck immediately and cannot figure out how to progress

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/suicidesquadrs/status/1745551206226018452?

[thorny loom]

Those system specs arent gonna save that ui

[little badger]

Yeah the UI needs a rework

[thorny loom]

https://fxtwitter.com/thorgisarcade/status/1745425812038238256?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, it's definitely because capcom has a lot of paid cheats for their old games

[thorny loom]

Tbf REmake 2 and 4 essentially had paid cheats

But my guess is they used the old games as a testing ground since it was less likely to be noticed instead of a newer game

[teal cliff]

Re2make has a really really good cheat mod

you can do all kinds of wacky shit with it

my favourite is changing Mr X's animation speeds

the game goes from horror to comedy when Mr X does no damage but is 25x faster

[fresh bane]

Capcom's stance and crackdown on mods because they can't handle the fact that modders are doing a better job than them is fucking infuriating

The same pettiness came through when DMC5's Special Edition came out, for the special edition on consoles they added Turbo Mode, Legendary Dark Knight mode and Ray Tracing, but that never came for PC, even though people wanted to buy it on PC

All because pc already had mods, and Capcom knew that, so they were being petty assholes about it

I don't know what crawled up their ass that they're starting to go against their community so badly right now it's insane and infuriating because they were doing really good and the games they've been putting out are great

People are saying this is all because of that nude Chun Li mod incident but that's complete bs, the last straw was the outrageous prices for the costumes in SF6, mixed with all that in-game currency shit and the awful collaborations they've done, they know modders are giving people exactly what they want and they're very upset by that

[quiet swift]

[minor belfry]

Wtf

Mother fucker pulled a matrix

[quiet swift]

London Urchins don't fuck around

[minor belfry]

Totally not broken.

[fresh bane]

The funny thing is, it's not broken

[minor belfry]

Tf.

[fresh bane]

Enemies and NPCs have done that since AC1 where templars chasing you start parkouring around

[quiet swift]

"Sir, you're wearing full armor, how the fuck are you parkouring almost as well as i am?"

[thorny loom]

https://fxtwitter.com/pc_focus_/status/1745242660409872735?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Yeah. Really should have known better than to use anything nintendo with your mod. Dolphin made clear nintendo will throw a fit with anything emulator or mod being tried to put on steam

[gaunt marten]

By "proprietary library" do they mean the ROM format?

[thorny loom]

I imagine since he wanted to put it into actual carts possibly

[gaunt marten]

A "library" is a piece or collection of code that you call on to help you do stuff

In this case, you can just write your own code instead of relying on a library

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/playstation/status/1745581864369176698?

[fresh bane]

Oh no this thing is adorable

Too bad I had to murder it

[slim thorn]

Alan Wake 2 is so good

@random steppe how far did you get so far? I just finished Return 5 (after Initiation 5)

[fresh bane]

also hey, nice
way earlier in the dungeon this door was closed and after you're done with the boss you can make your way back by going through the door from the other side and making a shortcut, so there's some light metroidvania ish design in the layouts on dungeons and even on the regular overworld neat

[fresh bane]

It's the best modern Silent Hill /s

[slim thorn]

I'd say it's closer to RE than SH overall but that's probably still not wrong lol

[fresh bane]

Gameplay wise I guess but I was more so referring to the entire thing overall, it's the closest thing we've gotten to a good Silent Hill-esque game for a while

[slim thorn]

have you played it?

[fresh bane]

If watching a streamer 100% it counts as playing it, I had been talking about Alan Wake 2 (and the Alan Wake games/universe in general) a lot in the last month or so as I was going through it

[visual hill]

this a few days ago: #1032716748887179434 message

I still don't know how I did it.

[thorny loom]

https://fxtwitter.com/pc_focus_/status/1745452949936169112?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[gaunt marten]

Just back the DRM-free copy of the game up while you have it

Move it to a different folder and use it as you please

[fresh bane]

They're absolutely putting it back, and not only in Resident Evil Revelations but on as many games as they can

A lot of their games were already reported to straight up not even run in Steam Deck

Some games like RE5 and DMC3 are hellish to run vanilla without all the fixes and tools that the mods provide

It's all so incredibly awful already but the incredibly hostile response Enigma gave to people complaining that this was ruining mods and ruining the performance of games just makes this entire thing unnacceptable to me

They deleted that entire forum thread too, because of course they did

[thorny loom]

Someone already figured how to break it is probably why they removed it lmao

[fresh bane]

They flat out said that anyone who brought this up again would have the thread deleted

We're back to 2010's Crapcom

[fresh bane]

https://vxtwitter.com/simmon_c3/status/1745468273121214562

''Keep sharing this rubbish I promise you sooner than you think it'll be all you have left''

[green fulcrum]

That's a sobering and very truthful quote.

[fresh bane]

The worst part is I also enjoy the AI parodies sometimes, I have enjoyed some stuff people have done with it since the 15ai days where the main purpose of it was for MLP parodies and have characters say wild stuff but I've definitely started to enjoy the shitposting side of AI less and less considering how wildly out of control it has gotten

The way he said it you can tell how he feels about this whole thing

[green fulcrum]

Well, yeah, it's a little different if it's an obvious parody and the VAs understand that.

It's when it's presented as a real thing that it's a problem

[light gate]

“AI” is pretty much gonna stay whenever we like it or not, and I hate it.

[fresh bane]

Definitely feels very depressing to me how AI could have legitimately been implemented as a tool if artists were actually given some time to see how they could properly implement these into their work, I can see AI working especially well for gaming when it comes to programming or coding, with animation it could be definitely used as a way to get through 'boring' parts of the process like filling in the colors which... takes a lot of time, a lot

[light gate]

Yep. Its just that is being designed to attempt and replace workers instead of assisting.

[fresh bane]

But no, because all these industries are ran by old people that are out of touch and have no clue how things work that possibility is gone now and there's kind of no turning back at this point

[light gate]

Like I can see how cool AI can be, but holy cow it is such a double edged sword.

[fresh bane]

It's also really depressing seeing how many people straight up have attitudes like ''I don't care'' ''keep crying about it'' ''you're mad because you're getting replaced/a machine can do better than you'' ''ai is the future'' etc, etc

[light gate]

Well that’s because it doesn’t affect them… yet…

[fresh bane]

And because they're just awful people in general, it shouldn't take for this to affect them so that they could either empathize a little bit with the people affected by this or just be worried that this will cause a significant drop in quality for the products they consume because it'll all be regurgitated AI slop

But people talk a lot of shit on social media in general, really no site is safe from that and reading comments anywhere is going to cause your IQ to drop and make you lose hope in people so I try not to do that

[light gate]

The internet is a wonderful place.

[fresh bane]

The anonimity the internet gives people definitely emboldens a lot of people but I always felt weird saying ''that's how the internet is'', it kind of just reflects how shitty (or good) people can be in real life

[light gate]

I lost a lot of empathy and had to gain it back after using the internet for so long.

It does disconnect you a lot from reality.

[fresh bane]

I used to think people saying ''oh I uninstalled facebook and I've never felt better!'' were just boomers exaggerating but no, even if you just casually browse around and you're not doom scrolling 24/7 everyday it really does start wearing you down over time

I definitely see the value on actively trying to minimize social media usage now

[light gate]

Online gaming as an example desensitize me a lot by becoming really rude/immature. (thanks xbox) Of course I should’ve known better blah blah but you don’t think of that because everyone echoes the same behavior.

Its a bit mind fucky.

Same can be said with fandoms.

[fresh bane]

The same happened to me on some degree playing League, it's a bit of a joke that league players have an addiction and I definitely lean into it as a joke a lot but there's more truth to it than you'd think, it would legitimately affect me and sometimes make me physically shaken up and I would keep playing anyways

I think people underestimate how subtly these things can affect you, you always think ''this would never happen to me! I'm too smart!'' until it actually happens to you

[light gate]

Yep

[random steppe]

I'm pretty sure I'm behind you, I had to stop after I unlocked ||Character switching||

[slim thorn]

oh, yeah, I've switched 4 times already, so definitely anything I'm doing now is a spoiler

[river veldt]

Kojima meets so many cool people im jealous
https://fixupx.com/hideo_kojima_en/status/1745607946195857802?s=46

[gaunt marten]

He looks like me when I edit myself into pictures of celebrities

The grayscale makes it harder to detect photoshop

[river veldt]

he did get cds signed by them
https://fixupx.com/hideo_kojima_en/status/1745608079679557763?s=46

[gaunt marten]

I'm not actually disputing that he met them but I do think the photos look funny because of the way they were taken

[mossy flume]

Fucking JEALOUS

Fuuuuuuuuuuuck

[mossy flume]

Three geniuses in one photo

[rotund forge]

Guess who's about to plat Super Mario 64 for the first time eva?

[true maple]

is it weird al?

ibet it's weird al

[dire gate]

https://fxtwitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1745611822005137690

[mossy flume]

FINALLY

[gaunt marten]

I don't believe Nintendo has the talent to properly remaster the game, so it's good they're just emulating it with enhancements

[mossy flume]

Took them long enough

Yeah, I would be skeptical of any remastering effort, unfortunately

It’s possible, but damn it would be easy to get wrong

[fresh bane]

Nintendo absolutely has the capabilities to properly do great remasters, they just don't

[gaunt marten]

The audio system alone for Golden Sun is innovative genius

It's not an ordinary game

[mossy flume]

I aspire to make a game that sounds half as good as Golden Sun did

[gaunt marten]

Nintendo can do great remasters for a lot of games but not Golden Sun

[mossy flume]

It’s such a strong source of inspiration for me

They did Metroid Prime Remastered perfectly and managed to improve upon it, against all odds.
Golden Sun would require… a deft touch.

[gaunt marten]

I wonder if they did something for carrying saves between games

[fresh bane]

Looks like that's probably gonna be emulated and not re-released as a remaster

[mossy flume]

Ohhhh good question

I doubt it

[mossy flume]

Yeah this is emulated

GBA virtual console

[gaunt marten]

The code system is a lot of fun but cumbersome. I would love to still have it, but having an additional system to carry saves would be nice too

[dire gate]

GS is a second-party game anyway (developed by Camelot)

[mossy flume]

I think this emulated release is a strong sign that they’ll never remaster it

[dire gate]

So it would rather more depend on what the developers in Camelot doing

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

[mossy flume]

Didn’t Camelot collapse?

[gaunt marten]

Camelot can't make a golden sun anymore

[river veldt]

Camelot makes the Mario sports games

[dire gate]

Camelot is still there afaik, making Mario sports games

yeah

[mossy flume]

Ahh

[river veldt]

most recently Mario Golf Super Rush

[mossy flume]

Yeah, the creator of the series appeared to be interested in doing Golden Sun 4, but the failure of GS3 basically meant that there wasn’t enough market interest available for Camelot to ever greenlight it.

[dire gate]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motoi_Sakuraba

[mossy flume]

They didn’t want to take that risk

So it’s kinda dead =/

He tried to pitch it, but it sounds like he was turned down (at least that’s what it sounds like based on random comments he’s made over the years)

[fresh bane]

People already modded Chun and AKI as Yor
yeah, of course they're cracking down on mods so agressively

[thorny loom]

https://fxtwitter.com/lolukn/status/1745490760986976698?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Plagiarized/traced another artists work

[fresh bane]

Community notes not pulling any punches

gotta push the new champ as hard as possible I guess

https://vxtwitter.com/kn0nker/status/1745590911633870931

[mossy flume]

Well this is a bit of a rollercoaster:
GameShark is coming back from the dead. Also they’ve renamed themselves to “AI Shark” because of course they have. They are setting up to release some sort of AI assistance tool for games and “coincide” the launch with the Switch 2, which they think will happen in September.

https://www.gameinformer.com/2024/01/11/switch-2-allegedly-launches-this-september-according-to-an-ai-companys-press-release

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/eurogamer/status/1745773659501781183?

[bronze abyss]

wasnt this already widely known for years that it isnt profitable?

[little badger]

Yeah. But I think that’s just the CEO saying it now.

[rancid herald]

has anything in the social media space been profitable?

I feel like the internet has been this constant tension between the supposed value of sites and the realities of the fact that there's no real way to 'extract' that value

[wind stump]

"we are no longer in denial"

now we are in anger

[gaunt marten]

I'm glad his priorities are sustainability, but I'm distrusting of any for-profit company who promises they put sustainability over growth

[hushed onyx]

Facebook makes gobs of money. I think LinkedIn might be profitable, although of course they're occupying quite a different market niche from most social media sites.

[river veldt]

https://fixupx.com/tobyfox/status/1745811632368807941?s=46

@wind stump

[slim thorn]

you can't cross those streams

[dense crypt]

Too bad, streams crossed

[dire gate]

"Illust Temmie Chang"

That is one hell of a name for an artist

Oh wait shit

That is an artist I've followed for months

https://fxtwitter.com/tuyoki/status/1738687443904151583

[river veldt]

yeah Temmie

[quiet swift]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2057760/Esoteric_Ebb/ hmm. Saying they're inspired by Disco Elysium...

Steam

Esoteric Ebb

The City of Norvik is holding its first ever election and somebody just blew up a tea shop. Great. Since no one else wants to touch it with a ten-foot pole, it's up to you and your goblin companion Snell to unravel the political web of incompetency. Explore the streets and tunnels of a fantasy metropolis. Debate devils, drunk sphinxes, and all m...

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[river veldt]

she's an artist for Undertale and Deltarune

[dire gate]

temmie plays a lot of ffxiv

[uneven epoch]

oH?

[dire gate]

https://fxtwitter.com/tuyoki/status/1715438064309244302

[uneven epoch]

tem is a tank main?

[dire gate]

https://fxtwitter.com/tuyoki/status/1715030647096410576

Miqotem

[wind stump]

it's too late spiderman! we've already crossed those streams

[uneven epoch]

logos

oh man

[river veldt]

i love Tem

Temmie Village

[dire gate]

I am not sure what she mained, dragoon maybe, but she def played tank
https://fxtwitter.com/tuyoki/status/1715429600480690271

https://fxtwitter.com/tuyoki/status/1562292539004182528

[wind stump]

blessed

[thorny loom]

That didnt take long

https://www.pcgamer.com/minecraft-legends-goes-into-maintenance-mode-9-months-after-release-as-devs-announce-theyre-going-to-take-a-step-back-from-development/

[gaunt marten]

https://factorio.com/blog/post/fff-393

https://cdn.factorio.com/assets/blog-sync/fff-393-bulk-02.mp4

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/shyvortex/status/1745797717777944858?

[wind stump]

oh fuck off

we already did this with Simcity in 2013

Hmm, should I:

1. Force myself to make an account on Ubisoft's garbage service to play a video game, completely ignoring issues like spotty wi-fi or limited internet access that could force me out of the game and lose progress
2. Pirate the fucking thing

[slim thorn]

I was maybe thinking of playing it but that's probably a hard no then

[wind stump]

choices choices

[slim thorn]

which is bonus irony from me playing an EGS exclusive this week

[wind stump]

at least EGS won't kick you out of your game because your internet is garbo

no that's not a point for them

[slim thorn]

exactly, it's just a new shop interface, and it worked fine on the first try

[wind stump]

that's a fucking standard

like
a baseline agreement

[slim thorn]

or as we like to say in software: "table stakes"

[wind stump]

i pay for product
i do what i want with product

[slim thorn]

not sure why we chose a poker metaphor when I've never seen a programmer play poker, but it's a good metaphor

[wind stump]

why does this shit need to be more complicated

oh right

[rancid herald]

I'm so tired of online only stuff

[wind stump]

anyway back to my MMORPG that requires a constant internet connection

joking aside my raid did just pop, lol

(and you know, MMOs kinda get away with the "constant internet" thing)

[slim thorn]

historical precedent is very powerful

and, well, actually needing it

[uneven epoch]

have fun! u got it

[strong pebble]

Are you ever scared when you play Alan Wake or never

[slim thorn]

people use "scared" so many different ways I have no idea what they think they mean by it any more

[thorny loom]

Microsoft already has this for their online library

Also capcom maybe getting into some legal issues if this is true https://fxtwitter.com/pc_focus_/status/1745796981077762331?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[gaunt marten]

Has always-online DRM for online-only games?

[thorny loom]

https://fxtwitter.com/pc_focus_/status/1745800879855354220?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[thorny loom]

She looks like a villain from aquaman

[quiet swift]

Not my choice of color for the dress, no

[thorny loom]

Looks like review bombing has started

[random steppe]

Pretty nice, sadly Fifa probably does a lot more than that through ultimat team purchase which are not necessarily tracked by Steam, but still...

Also fuck, Lethal Company is basically a solo developer, which I assume is now building Scrooge McDuck vault to store his money

[slim thorn]

here's hoping they know they're a fad and don't double-down too hard on this

[random steppe]

Isn't he like, a teen too

21, not a teen, still

Very young

Also a furry apparently, which doesn't surprise me given my experience with programmers.

[slim thorn]

"he"?

oh the dev

[random steppe]

Yeah it's like, one guy

Which made a game that made 52 million dollars according to Steam

[rancid herald]

These numbers aren’t actually from steam

[random steppe]

Imagine the level of fursuit he is going to be able to afford

[gaunt marten]

Steam doesn't provide revenue numbers but they do provide revenue tiers

[wind stump]

"apparently"

[sour hill]

I mean yeah it's kinda a "fad" but lethal company is legit a fun and interesting game to play with friends, and I think there's a lot of development that can be done to improve it and add value

[sour hill]

It is apparent

[random steppe]

I mean even if he fucks up, he can probably just retire

[sour hill]

Well duh

[random steppe]

If the numbers in that chart are even in the ballpark

[hushed onyx]

Well, as long as he handles the money correctly--see all of the NFL players (for instance) who make bucketloads of money while playing but for various reasons end up with little once they have to retire.

[sour hill]

It's very funny that we're talking about lethal company considering the conversation in manechat right now

I wonder why that game's humor struck a chord with people!

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/playstation/status/1745849594141966700?

[thorny loom]

Interesting

[teal cliff]

Smite 2? Alright then

is it gonna like

overwatch 2/csgo 2 it and replace Smite?

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/wario64/status/1745850505761620389?

[wind stump]

that's nice at least

[harsh kestrel]

I played a tiny bit of the original Smite, but ended up not being interested in it

[minor plover]

my wife derped around on Smite for a while, but it wasn't really that interesting overall

[visual hill]

remember that with Steam's cut, VAT and taxes on the company side, a developer only gets around half of the game's purchase price

this varies on a per-country basis of course, both on the buyer's and seller's side

still, it's wild we're starting to see hit game developers who are half a decade younger than me. 👀

[rancid herald]

kind of makes it feel like I've done nothing with my life

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/isaacadepts/status/1745667212848038233?

[bronze abyss]

raid shadow legends is now on steam apparently which is like...the most useless way i could imagine someone spend company resources

who the fuck even plays that game and i dont mean just downloads but actually plays it and enjoys it

[graceful bridge]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/1675200?snr=1_2108_9__2107

Client update

Seeing reports on Reddit that this fixes one thing, but breaks others.

[thorny loom]

Lmao what

Also is that 5 separate currencies or resources in the top right

[fresh bane]

Great

Impeccable timing from my part having purchased and finished Resident Evil Revelations 1 and 2 before this shit

[strong pebble]

I sometimes play Resident Evil 0 I was thinking it will be scary but so far it's more like I don't know where to go

[thorny loom]

Thats an issue more with the older games

[strong pebble]

Yeah and when I go left and right all the time zombies are just BORING

[visual hill]

plenty of Ubisoft-style open world games have like 4 or 5 concurrent currencies

Spider-Man Remastered for instance has 5 different ways to buy various upgrades

[thorny loom]

I see

[fresh bane]

RE0 is not that old, it's just not a particularly good game
RE1-2-3 are older and I never ran into that problem with them

[strong pebble]

Have you played Zero?

[fresh bane]

Not entirely

[strong pebble]

Hm

Do you figure out on your own where to go or do you watch on youtube

[gaunt marten]

Youtube is generally slow if you want to look up a guide

A picture or a searchable body of text tends to be faster

[strong pebble]

Good idea

If I will play next time and really don't know i will look it up but I don't want to

[fresh bane]

I try not to, but if I find myself in a spot where I particularly don't even know where to even start I will because moving forward is more valuable to me than being able to say ''I did it on my own''

that being said there's no secret to progressing in a resident evil game, it's always generally just fetching key items from the places where you're able to go so you can access the areas you can't go to, so everytime you're lost all you have to do is check your map and see where you haven't yet gone to and see if you have the means to get there now

[slim thorn]

"where do I go next" happens to various degrees in all sorts of games, it's kinda inevitable if you want any of the game's challenge to be figuring out where to go next

and survival horror usually does

for all of RE0's problems I thought its level design was pretty solid; I never stayed lost for very long after I'd cleared the enemies and could study the map in peace

[gaunt marten]

Big or home

[fresh bane]

I want to say every RE before 4 is pretty good about letting you know where to go next, you either just have to think about what options you have or maybe you missed the one room that has the one key item that allows you to progress and snowball from there

RE3 is interesting in the sense that this is less of a constant and more of a variable because that game has loads of different routes with completely different interactions/outcomes and different items and it already has a built-in randomizer for the enemies and items so even though it follows the same rules level design wise as RE1 and 2 it has that twist

[gaunt marten]

https://www.humblebundle.com/games/awesome-games-done-quick-2024?

[bronze abyss]

i kinda wanna get it just for bloodstained,bayonetta and having borderlands on steam instead of epic

[gaunt marten]

It's an okay bundle

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/princeofpersia/status/1745883350303211715?

[green fulcrum]

Oh wow, that's pretty cool! Considering that the Prince of Persia games of the past have had mixed reception at best, this is definitely a triumph for the devs.

[little badger]

The only criticism it’s getting is you need a Ubisoft account in order to play or it just puts you back to the main menu.

[green fulcrum]

Ew...

[strong pebble]

Why not just log in

[wind stump]

yeahhhhh we talked about the always online DRM

#1032716748887179434 message

and no turning off your wifi doesn't make it any less shitty

I PAY FOR PRODUCT
GIVE ME PRODUCT
THAT IS ALL YOU NEED TO DO.

[slim thorn]

this would've been a must-play for me, but I think we've finally hit a case where always-online DRM directly affects me and I am morally obligated to not buy this

anyway PoP: The Sands of Time is a must-play classic, and the PoP (2008) reboot is highly underrated

[quiet swift]

Oh neat, they do seem to have a demo of it for pc too. Thought it was just consoles

[strong pebble]

If I played on a handheld I would not like always online too

[slim thorn]

oh wow, I'm farther into AW2 than I thought

[astral steeple]

https://vxtwitter.com/ShiinaBR/status/1745906074832515386

Jeez

[wind stump]

ok so hear me out
it's almost like
3 of those 4 games aren't skitter boxes filled with microtransactions and battle passes being pushed on an exploitable audiance of children, or something

[astral steeple]

What

[wind stump]

[astral steeple]

Adults play too

[wind stump]

skinner box* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operant_conditioning_chamber

[astral steeple]

Which is like most of the people who play

[wind stump]

roblox is just as bad tho

so 3/4

[astral steeple]

Microtransactions in games are fine as long as they're optional cosmetics only and don't give an advantage or are pay to win

And as long as they aren't lootboxes

[wind stump]

and you know
don't exploit fomo and famous properties in order to make money from children

but ehhh i guess that's just something we disagree on

[astral steeple]

The collabs aren't them exploiting properties

It's them literally trying to make the oasis from ready player one

The cosmetics in general are meant to be for the teens and adults with jobs

Yknow

The ones with disposable income

[wind stump]

Agree to disagree.

[thorny loom]

@fresh bane @visual hill

https://fxtwitter.com/pc_focus_/status/1745908978171752617?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

@mossy flume

https://fxtwitter.com/battlefrontpack/status/1745838225027961012?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[fresh bane]

Did you not do any side stuff/collecting or did you just finish it all that fast?

[fresh bane]

Damn RE2 getting all the love, there was another first person project a little while ago too

[gaunt marten]

Ixrec usually focuses on the main story

[uneven epoch]

ixrec is the antithesis of bringi then

[slim thorn]

I'm not going for 100% but I have gotten a lot of the side stuff

[fresh bane]

There's really not any side content in the scale of a rpg here or anything, it's a survival horror so any side stuff is just mostly collecting and getting upgrades

[uneven epoch]

where i do every side content under the sun n have to be dragged into main story kickin n screamin

(this is problematic when its mmorpg )

[slim thorn]

here's my current map for Alan's story (after finding ||I think every Tim map showing collectibles||), to give some idea how much I am and am not picking up

[fresh bane]

And exploring whenever you get the chance to be in town with all the people there, loads of fun stuff and dialogues to explore especially with any characters from before

If you're already about to finish might as well just catch em all

At least that's what I'd do of course, not that it's that important

[slim thorn]

there's a few I've tried to find and couldn't despite the map marker

[fresh bane]

There's a lot of fun boxes to find, don't know if any are locked in an area or section but I think this game follows classic RE rules where you're free to return anywhere

[slim thorn]

but I probably will try to find all the stuff I know about

[fresh bane]

And words of power too of course, dunno how many of those you've found

[slim thorn]

many, I think most

and yes I believe it lets you return anywhere with collectibles

[fresh bane]

It's great isn't it

A couple of those boxes expect you to whip out pen and paper to solve math problems

|| and then the members of the cult writing inside are like "seriously stop it with the damn math just give me a code" ||

[slim thorn]

I love it when the people writing notes complain about their own puzzles

[fresh bane]

"Why does Spencer need all these keys?! "

[slim thorn]

I solved that one in my head just to see if I could

[gaunt marten]

What's the problem?

[slim thorn]

lucked out that it was a system of equations where you could cancel out one of the variables before doing any real arithmetic

[fresh bane]

I tried to because it's the type of math I did during my last years of school and that's still fresh on my mind, but I just couldn't

Not even writing it down I just gave up

But I appreciate the commitment to just having those at all, very old school style puzzle

And the openness of it all what with its an open map but it's still a Mansion-type map where you can go anywhere and you unlock other stuff later on and such rather than RE4 style linearity

I appreciate it

[gaunt marten]

Actually nevermind, I don't want to try

[fresh bane]

The one I'm talking about is finding out the total number of wheels I think by knowing how many bikes and cars are in a garage

Something along those lines

It's probably a basic school math problem but as always all math knowledge I ever had is gone now

[slim thorn]

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/dEwgEmVneAGoEot6beVX33.jpg

[fresh bane]

[quiet swift]

||177 cars, 23 bikes?||

[hasty patio]

That checks out, but it can be a lot of other things too.

[quiet swift]

Yar, could be any number of combinations as they don't go into further detail. But that's the one that first came to mind as a solution

[river veldt]

is Alan Wake 2 the one that's kind of like Twin Peaks

[gaunt marten]

Right, so each bike just reduces the number of wheels by 2.

[slim thorn]

huh, I thought this one had a guaranteed unique solution

[gaunt marten]

So this is ||Difference from 800 divided by two.||

[slim thorn]

b + c = 200
2b + 4c = 754

b + 2c = 754/2

(b + 2c) - (b + c) = (754/2) - 200
c = 754/2 - 200

[gaunt marten]

That sounds like a lot of work

[river veldt]

what the fuck

[slim thorn]

that's what I did in my head to realize I could "just" do 754/2 - 200 and have the answer

[quiet swift]

I just did || 800 -754, and divided the 46 by 2 to find 23 bikes||

[gaunt marten]

Yeah the above solution looks like my code

[thorny loom]

Oh god. The game making you do math

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/diablo/status/1745914413402771709?

[gaunt marten]

I saw a different puzzle which took matrix algebra

[quiet swift]

hides his sorceress

[fresh bane]

I think they have multiple solutions

Or... About as many solutions as you can do with math

[gaunt marten]

https://g.co/bard/share/e7480f2b5329

It got it right but in a dumb way

[river veldt]

this is nuts

is Alan Wake 2 a nerd game

[gaunt marten]

No this is a baby level question

[slim thorn]

I mean, it's a system of 2 equations with 2 variables, that automatically means it has a unique solution

[green fulcrum]

Wait, so all this time Diablo was about Washington state?

[river veldt]

no it isn't

[slim thorn]

also this is the only puzzle in the game like this

[river veldt]

i dont wanna think about math

[slim thorn]

all the others are something else, they're good at variety

[river veldt]

that's good

[fresh bane]

There's at least one more other math box

[slim thorn]

and this is one of the ones that came with a "wtf, why is that the clue? just use a key!" joke

[fresh bane]

But I don't think it's as complicated

[gaunt marten]

Me getting the blow torch hidden in the cult base roof

[little badger]

[river veldt]

cant Alan just fucking write into existence a skeleton key that he can use on everything

[slim thorn]

yeah as systems of equations go this is extremely simple, there's loads of ways people could guess-solve it without actually "knowing math", much less proving there's a unique answer

that's not how it works

[river veldt]

oh

how does it work

[fresh bane]

It's spoilers

But basically his writing has to go through an editor of sorts, he can't just write anything because it's likely it'll get edited in some way so he has to adhere to rules

[river veldt]

oh

cosmic editor....

[fresh bane]

Pretty much

[astral steeple]

ngl i know nothing about alan wake at all

had no idea who he was before he was added to fort lol

[fresh bane]

I still need to finish Control which I should have on GOG with my last saves from.... 2019-ish?

I remember talking about Control here

[river veldt]

i would love to play Control

[fresh bane]

Should be somewhere in my log of messages

[river veldt]

someday

[slim thorn]

I get the feeling everyone's heard of Control

[quiet swift]

Control's great. Though the.. xpac? DLC's? last boss i didn't finish. Was just too many one shot mechanics or something

[slim thorn]

and Alan Wake was comparatively obscure until the sequel came out

[fresh bane]

Uuuuuuuhhh well I wouldn't say everyond

[slim thorn]

everyone who plays these kinds of games lol

[fresh bane]

But it definitely seems to have been bigger than Alan Wake

[slim thorn]

(and tbf Control was better than AW1)

[river veldt]

i know the main location in Control is partially inspired by House of Leaves which makes me interested

[sour hill]

What the fuck is Control

[astral steeple]

yeah i have no idea what control is either lol

[fresh bane]

I feel like horror fans specifically always knew about Alan, I mean sure a lot of newcomers have begun their journey with Alan Wake 2 but I want to say a majority of people expecting this were previous Alan Wake fans

Me included

[river veldt]

it's like SCP and House of Leaves got hitched

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F74LLDhAhhI

[sour hill]

That sounds either horrible or great or somewhere in between horrible and great

[quiet swift]

It's actually great

[river veldt]

from what ive heard it's great

[fresh bane]

Well Control is fantastic

[slim thorn]

it was very good yes

[sour hill]

Knew it

[slim thorn]

I haven't personally played Control but I watched an LP back when it was new, and then one of the DLC when that came out

[quiet swift]

It does a fantastic job with the vibes

[sour hill]

I'll keep it in the back of my mind, thanks team

[slim thorn]

pretty sure at the time it was one of the year's big AAA games and a standard GotY nominee and everyone who'd ever heard of SCP was making that comparison and all that jazz

[quiet swift]

And gameplay's pretty damn fun too. Once you got some powers/gun stuff boosted and find a combo that works for you, you feel like a god

[fresh bane]

Not just the vibes but I think the gameplay is incredible I remember having a lot of fun with it, probably gonna jump back on it when I'm done with Ruined King

[quiet swift]

[slim thorn]

even the ashtray maze lived up to the hype

[fresh bane]

Also before I forget make sure you say when you finish aw2 so I can mention something you may or may not be aware of that it's probably better I say after

Just in case

[slim thorn]

[sour hill]

Be careful what you say because I might play Alan Wake II at some point before 2035

[quiet swift]

Remedy also made Quantum Break before that. In retrospect, it feels like they were cutting their teeth on this in preparation for Control

[strong pebble]

Unplayable 🤭🤭

[visual hill]

I played Control last year

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyNYbVPSs38

[visual hill]

it's a big raytracing and HDR showcase with the HDR mod

[fresh bane]

I actually don't quite remember how good the game looked but I remember it looked really good and ran good enough on my bad low spec computer when I was starting it

Definitely focuses on having a strong visual style more, just like with aw2 which is another reason why I love that game

Lots of trippy surreal visuals

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i83sW90aAkY

[fresh bane]

Looks way better than I remember

Of course I played it on the lowest of low settings at 800x600...

[slim thorn]

Nire: ||is Alan supposed to have a shotgun by now? I have a silly amount of shotgun ammo and nothing to put it in, and Saga's found two shotguns in her world||

[thorny loom]

Pfff

https://fxtwitter.com/tyler_mcv/status/1745881979101344204?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[fresh bane]

Yes

[slim thorn]

welp, guess I've been playing on hard mode

[fresh bane]

I don't think it's locked behind anything just easy to miss

[thorny loom]

Its time for another’s layoff already

https://aftermath.site/employees-say-sizable-portion-of-gearbox-owned-studio-has-been-laid-off

[fresh bane]

Mmhm, loads of layoffs everywhere recently

[thorny loom]

Tech industry bubble popped

[mossy flume]

Control is awesome, you peeps need to play it

[thorny loom]

Been meaning too

[sour hill]

Recessions are awesome

We should make a GoFundMe for Jeff Bezos to sort all this out

[random steppe]

Fifa ultimate team is a skinner box, a lot worse than Fortnite morally and also aimed at kids, and you could make a solid argument for GTA Online

Even that that's less a clear cut than Fifa

(that's what EA FC sports is, it's the new name for Fifa)

Also Roblox isn't just as bad, Roblox is literally indirectly profiting from child labour

Interesting video about it
https://youtu.be/_gXlauRB1EQ?si=ucshYuijDcMIqopn

[astral steeple]

fort's monetization is tame compared to most other games with microtransactions

there is way worse

cough apex legends's 360 dollar deathbox cough

plus with the "fomo" stuff in the battle pass like

they literally tell you exactly how long you have till the season ends

you get plenty of xp just from playing casually that you're able to unlock everything

plus XP from creative, etc

and quests and stuff

[random steppe]

Yeah but it's still bad.
Not as bad as other games but bad

[astral steeple]

and its only 9 dollars for the battle pass itself

100+ items just from casually playing throughout the season and stuff

im already level 155 and the season ends in march

[random steppe]

You know what would make me happy about it?
If they made it so you get the cosmetics even if you don't finish it at the end of the season
Keep the currency for people who actually played through it but it sounds really shitty to not recieved content you paid for.

The reward for getting there before the end of the season is using those cosmetics earlier.

[quiet swift]

the halo infinite model

[grave tide]

I watched it, I was stunned, literally child labout in XXI century

[random steppe]

Halo Infite is even better

[astral steeple]

you only get the rewards that you reach the level for

you get out of it what you put in

dont put in the effort to level up, you shouldnt get those items

seems pretty fair to me

[random steppe]

Yeah that is fomo, it pushes you to play to grind it out it's a shitty pratice and the industry should do away with it

[quiet swift]

Is there any way to ever actually convince you that some of these things are exploitative, or will you forever defend it to death?

[astral steeple]

you dont have to "grind" though

i play casually and im still high enough up

[random steppe]

It's not the worst thing in the industry, but it's fine to still think it's bad.

[astral steeple]

ive never had an issue with it

ive been able to reach 200 like pretty much every season

[quiet swift]

It extremely depends on the game though. Some of them have rather slow level up process, and a short season to boot. Making it so that if you don't exclusively play that game and only that game and nothing else, you'll miss out

[random steppe]

It's literally your main game, you playing casually is probably less than what most people put in most games time wise, if you average it out

[quiet swift]

Not being able to get stuff afterwards because they artificially limit it to that season only feels disgusting if you add that on top of it

[random steppe]

I wouldn't be surprised if you polled and discovered most passes weren't completed by the end of it

[astral steeple]

the seasons themselves are usually like 3-4 months long

so you got plenty of time to actually play and level up

and they release a skin bundle in the shop the last like month of every season that gives 28 levels just from collecting tokens around the map

[quiet swift]

I just said it depends on the game

[random steppe]

That's another thing entirely and I am of two minds about it.
It's kind of cool to have rewards that says "is was there back then" and my MMO brain won't allow me to completely let that go.

[quiet swift]

Let me toss this to you then Gen:

[astral steeple]

i can somewhat get being upset by missing certain collabs due to them being in battle passes, but like yeah

should have been playing back then lol

[quiet swift]

WOW recently has implemented a "trading post", where you can do a series of small fairly easy tasks and get a currency (that cannot be bought with real money). You can get a bunch of random cosmetics, some new, some old. For example, mounts that used to only be available from the card game that existed in... 2008? Ish? And have been impossible to get since outside of, yknow, buying those scratch cards

What's your take on that?

[strong pebble]

Sounds like Fortnite

[random steppe]

It's nice for the people that want those mounts, but at the same time those mounts will become a bit less cool to spot in game.

[quiet swift]

How?

[random steppe]

There is a sacrifice in that

[astral steeple]

like people will sit there and hate on the game up until they add a character they like, then all of a sudden they get into the game later on, and then get upset that they didnt play when that character was added

like yeah thats on them for not getting into the game back when that collab was available

[quiet swift]

I can't remember which mount it is from cards, might be pet actually. But a more concrete example I just remembered: the mount that came with the deluxe/CE version of diablo 3 was made available on there as well

So that's like... 12+ years of exclusivity of the mount, now available to more

[random steppe]

To be fair, the game is basically done, at that point it makes sense to let you have whatever

In D3 I mean

There is less of a tradeoff

[quiet swift]

It wasn't a mount you could get after that point either, I think. Was time limited

[random steppe]

Like in ffxiv, well they do a lot of things in questionable ways on the cash shop, regardless of that there are two mounts unique to those that qualified for the legacy program for having played the game in 1.0

Those mounts have an inherent prestige that would diminish if you could just get them.

[quiet swift]

It's still technically a FOMO, as the trading post cycles what's available monthly. Stuff can come back but so far it hasn't been the big ticket items like mounts that have come back

[random steppe]

That is a bit of a special case I will admit

[fresh bane]

Is that not precisely what fomo is?

[astral steeple]

i never said it wasnt fomo

[slim thorn]

did you all just No True Scotsman each other while I was playing my game lol

[astral steeple]

my point was that people will literally hate on the game, up until after a character they like is no longer able to be gotten

like sucks for them for not getting into the game during the 3-4 months that the character was available

should have been there playing at the time

[fresh bane]

That's the point, that's bad
Not the people that hate on a game until the one thing they like is added, those people are hypocrites, but the whole ''guess you should've been there'' thing is bad

[astral steeple]

i dont really see it as bad

[fresh bane]

That's a problem, I feel

[slim thorn]

in general I think it's fine for a multiplayer game to have some unique "missable" items that become unobtainable later... but the key word there is some

when it becomes a core tenet of the business model to generate an endless stream of unobtainable-after-[date] items, then it's just exploiting FOMO in the pejorative sense

[random steppe]

Yeah that sounds fair

[sour hill]

Yeah if Peter Griffin is missable, that's where I draw the line

[fresh bane]

I know MMOs tend to have these sorts of things, but they usually tend to be items intentionally designed to be rare, obtainable during an event, or some type of 'badge' or something that signifies you participated in a certain event, that translates to a lot of other online games too not just MMOs
But if your entire game is based around that, I feel like it's a problem

[sour hill]

I'm glad you agree 🤝

[slim thorn]

at least for missable Manechat roles, I think Gen has us all beat

[random steppe]

A lot of this is where we all personally draw the line.
There is also always the difference between paid product and F2P, and for me it does influence where the line of acceptable is.

[green fulcrum]

I wonder what y'all are planning for the 10th anniversary?

[sour hill]

Fire

[astral steeple]

im still surprised peter and solid snake were both in the same bp

like especially since peter does kinda overshadow snake sadly

[slim thorn]

ah, yes, "planning"

[sour hill]

If you have the Peter fortnite skin you're probably cool as fuck

[astral steeple]

bird is the word emote too lol

[gaunt marten]

I'm here too

[astral steeple]

im still hoping they do quagmire and lois and stuff as skins

have stewie as a backbling/pet for lois

[fresh bane]

[random steppe]

HC has the 0th anniversary, can't beat that one.

[fresh bane]

Oh woah my main menu screen changed

[quiet swift]

It does that at certain story points

[mossy flume]

0th anniversary havers unite

[visual hill]

Half-Life 2 moment

I love it when a game does this

Deus Ex: Revision has an option for this too, and this is one of the aspects Half-Life: Source does better than OG Half-Life (or even Black Mesa)

[quiet swift]

crawling headcrab intensifies

[river veldt]

rare Half Life Source W

[true maple]

bro we haven't even planned for dragon day in 3 days

[green fulcrum]

Good luck then

[fresh bane]

ohhh hohoho
sniper wolf style sniper fight here

yeaaaahhh

and I didn't kill them this time!

[craggy vine]

No l4d2 channel so I'll say it here
The chernobyl map in l4d2 is probably one of the coolest maps I have ever played in the game

[feral tulip]

https://fxtwitter.com/eigenbom/status/1745720001578061827?t=LWjm05rXwokj30wwZ3dlZw&s=19

[mossy flume]

Genre should just be “Rogue” and “Souls”

[bright canopy]

If anyone plays trackmania, I'd love to see my pony friends on leaderboards (dedimania etc). I've always had the brohoof on my name (in pic) for the past few years (since 2016-ish) and I've never had any negative remarks about it, so I think it's fairly safe to put in your name. (I've gotten more attention just from me being American but that's still a very rare thing that gets pointed out.) You can put it on in any of the games that lets you do it and in whatever color you want. Even two-tone if you wish

I play mostly LOL/shorts/tech but am perfectly fine with almost everything except trial, kacky/lunatic, maybe more difficult fullspeed... I don't have the attention span for those right now. If you run into me, don't be afraid to say hi I might be quiet sometimes though, because I'm busy trying to get a better time. It happens to all of us.

[mossy flume]

https://youtu.be/syuo15wgNOw?si=xnZuvEsrI9oEEkws

[slim thorn]

tagging systems always end up sounding funny even when they're being used correctly like this

there are Metroids and Castlevanias that you would not apply the Metroidvania tag too

[slim thorn]

#AW2: god I love metatextual nonsense

[gaunt marten]

What a dumb question

[slim thorn]

in context, it's a very legitimate concern

[gaunt marten]

I am, therefore I am.

Side note: yams are delicious

[craggy vine]

I just had a realization... With CS2... Are maps in other source games getting textures from CSGO going to still work..

[slim thorn]

oh wow, they actually made the film within a game and are letting me sit here watch it all

[slim thorn]

"I'm my own deus ex machina? Really?"

[slim thorn]

LET'S GOOOO

||it's even funnier in giant Impact font||

[visual hill]

I used to play TM a lot but haven't got much time lately (and TM2020 breaks all the time on Linux)

[visual hill]

textures are copied over, so yes. You don't need to install CS:GO to play those games

[wind stump]

i swear i'm not cheating, I SWEAR I AM NOT CHEATING

oh right, embeds

doing it the old fashioned way then https://i.imgur.com/ugthsDl.jpeg

[gaunt marten]

This looks like a shift code weapon

I haven't played borderlands since the presequel.

[wind stump]

look at my golden key count

[gaunt marten]

Oh! 157 is a lot

[wind stump]

for some reason the website that had the first result says it gives 5 keys but it's more like 25

skill issue

i'm gonna see if I can exploit this to make a leggo pistol at like level 7 lmao

[gaunt marten]

You could just cheat

[wind stump]

i mean yeah, i have no obligation to play within the rules
buttt this is still working in the confines of the game, as far as I know, the codes I used were made by Gearbox themselves

[river veldt]

WHAT IS THIS

[slim thorn]

what do you think lol

[river veldt]

idk like

uhh

||big festival for deers||

[slim thorn]

oh you mean like the in-universe lore

||the immediate answer is it's a completely normal small town festival, the fanciest it gets is building half a dozen floats which have paper-mache deer and the like||

||at this particular point in the story though, the real Deerfest was cancelled because of all the shooting and dying and paranormal nonsense going on, but... reality is being fiddled with by multiple characters in multiple directions, so a subtly twisted version of the festival becomes a setpiece at one point||

[river veldt]

oh

that's cool

[slim thorn]

just finished the credits

[craggy vine]

ok cool

[wind stump]

meanwhile my l4d2

[craggy vine]

My l4d1 characters are anime maids

[young creek]

thats twilight, not sunny starscout

[young creek]

still wrong

[wind stump]

sfm horses are cursed

though i will concede my L4D2 is only marginally less cursed

[craggy vine]

Played through a ton of amazing l4d2 campagins today

[wind stump]

(Not the blahaj medpacks tho
those are based)

[craggy vine]

Best one was a disney land one. Journey to splash mountain I believe it was called

You literally get to ride on splash mountain while killing zombies like a shooting gallery

Had a spitter at the end of the last drop

Easily surpasses dark canival as a favourite for me

Time to Kill was also very cool, had a bunch of portals and time travel.

didn't feel lore friendly though

Chernobyl is also another very cool one with an awesome feel to the map. Each level is quite long between safe rooms though.

Also the classic Back to School, was quite nice

I want to do tank runs in them

[wind stump]

melees one of my ai teammates
all 3 slowly turn to me

[craggy vine]

pff yes

[wind stump]

wasn't me...

I think I'm being judged...

[quiet swift]

Oof. Spoilered myself on a cyberpunk 2077 ending because I don't plan on making that choice in Phantom Liberty. ||choosing to get the surgery from them instead. Seeing the ending properly rather than just reading abuot it. Depressing one D: ||

[craggy vine]

Oh also played Dark Carnival remix. A nice new version of dark carnival. Stadium end was awesome, made you do more during the fight. And the speakers catch on fire

And no more endless hoard to get to a safe room

Some custom campagins you gotta play without other mods I have found though, otherwise it crashes or has stuff like invisible tanks, when they add their own custom enemies

I think the disney land one especially was insane to me, because I have been to disney land about 10 years ago, and seeing the rides I have been on in the game is awesome, in the exact way I remember it in my head. I'm sure it is far from being a 1:1 creation but it may as well be the real thing with a memory going on 10 years.

zippity do da zippity day

[wind stump]

"Can't believe we killed Yoshi with a Smith & Wesson 500"

[craggy vine]

pffff yes

[wind stump]

my mods are still cursed

[craggy vine]

That video is part of what got me into the stupid l4d2 mods

[wind stump]

lil' hoshino reloads my shotgun for me

don't ask me why there are so many goddamn Blue Archive mods for L4D2

... i mean, aside from the obvious "anime girls with guns" premise

[craggy vine]

My hunter is micheal jackson. My smoker is markiplier. Charger is a HL1 scientist. Spitter is chica from fnaf. My jockey is toad.

Hearing toad from mario laughing in front of you, Markiplier say 'fuck you' from your right, micheal jackson sing 'hee hee' from your left... It is terrifying

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9Q1t-f4Bs0

[fresh bane]

Of course! Full actual short film

[fresh bane]

Well you get back in there nerd because new game plus is technically continuing the story

|| it's not a loop, it's a spiral ||

[slim thorn]

I actually did click on that just to see if it was NG+ or something else

so my plan was to reload my point-of-no-return save and look for some of the collectibles in areas I never checked before

but should I be doing NG+ instead? how different is it?

[quiet swift]

You should play Quantum Break. They made 4 40 minute episodes that tie in with the game directly

(I think it was 40 min, at least)

[slim thorn]

I was aware of that but back when QB was new everyone said it wasn't that good

I mean this isn't the first game with some non-game media attached to it, it's just one of the few cases where I found it and cared

[quiet swift]

Eh, I wouldn't say it wasn't good? I played it before I played Control at least, and Control is obviously miles better. But I had fun playing it

[fresh bane]

So, there are differences, and I think there's some new collectables too, plus an extended ending, but it's not a full rehaul of course

It's not a full remix of the entire game because that'd be insane but it does have some new stuff, depends on you if you feel like it'd be worth putting the time to experience those or just look them up if you're curious and into the story

[slim thorn]

I watched the opening cutscene since Alan's monologue was pretty different

[fresh bane]

Just saying because even though there's different stuff it's still a new game so you're gonna be putting the same amount of hours in

[slim thorn]

yeah I don't think I'm up for a full second playthrough

it's pretty rare that I do that

[fresh bane]

I think by now people have documented most of the differences so you can probably find them

And the ending

And now.... We wait for Control 2

[slim thorn]

it's feeling increasingly odd now that I never played Control, only watched an LP of it

maybe if a sequel comes out I'll play both, I've forgotten enough details

[fresh bane]

If you find it on sale I'd probably recommend considering getting it, even if you watched all of it playing it feels different and it feels really good to just play it and have fun with it

I'm probably gonna get back on it because I actually never even finished it, I left it off... I don't even know at what point in the game

[thorny loom]

Lmao who needs balance

https://fxtwitter.com/owcavalry/status/1745883910913786111?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[young creek]

Everyone having the same thing is balanced

boring yes unbalanced no

[wind stump]

Because that'll keep people invested in the game.

"You know what needs to be done? HOMOGIZING THE GAME!"

[fresh bane]

Welcome to the same problem that plagued league

And still does

[quiet swift]

In the meantime, wait for a sale and get Quantum Break!

[rancid herald]

in fairness I feel like health regen should be a basic part of most games

[strong pebble]

It's on my to play list because Xbox made it or something

[rancid herald]

there's nothing more annoying than surviving a fight in zelda with a quarter heart only to have to listen to the 'you're dying' music' constantly because you can't find anything to heal with

[strong pebble]

Kingdom Hearts

Instead it's not music it's wake up alarm

[slim thorn]

as much as health regen got overused for a bit after Halo, I think the modern standard of red around the screen and partial or no regen by default is a good one for most games

AW2 for instance has health regen by default... if you can reach a bright light, which is the right balance for that kind of survival horror

[river veldt]

i dont like health regen tbh

i prefer the old school way of medkits and stuff

[slim thorn]

it really depends on the game

[quiet swift]

It was made by the same studio that later made Control. But yeah it's actually on Game Pass too

[young creek]

Healing should involve eating one apple per point of damage you've taken like God intended

[slim thorn]

the usual problem with medkits in older shooters is that they lead to a cycle of actually have fun shooting stuff -> oh my health is low -> 10 minutes retracing the first half of the level looking for health, which I'm glad is no longer the default

[river veldt]

the two games im thinking of are Doom and Zelda

[slim thorn]

of course the modern Doom approach of putting medkits inside the enemies is another good answer

[river veldt]

yeah that's why glory kills- yeah exactly

[slim thorn]

but that won't work for every game, in particular it's not the best fit for survival horror

[quiet swift]

Looking at you, half life health stations...

[minor plover]

enemies dropping health powerups is a good approach

I did like L4D's approach of having you carry medical gear and then use it when you need it. Feeds the feeling of scarcity.

[quiet swift]

"PILLS HERE!" 💊

[slim thorn]

specifically, health-dropping enemies is a good solution if it's the kind of game where there is always another enemy and the player can always be expected to successfully find and kill it

which Doom is

[strong pebble]

What if I start playing when you start playing

[visual hill]

I like low-health warnings, but they should just stop playing eventually

Rise of the Triad almost got it right back in 1994

[slim thorn]

I guess BotW/TotK get away with a noise because you usually have a hundred hearts of food in your pocket during those games (which to me feels like regen with extra steps but oh well)

I can't recall actually getting stuck in the "low health noise won't shut up" situation since KH1

[river veldt]

i dont really mind any low health sound because i dont play games with sound

most of the time im watching youtube or a tv show while playing games

[quiet swift]

I already finished it ages ago 😛

[strong pebble]

Why do you want to buy it then??

[quiet swift]

...Look at who I'm responding to. I'm suggesting it to Ixrec 😛

[craggy vine]

https://youtu.be/uHxTQKW7L_0?si=Lc-PcNSgnuGNQFV8 I just watched this and all it did was remind me just how much graphics do not matter for a game

[wind stump]

new ratlobber

[craggy vine]

Heh yes

I love ratlobber but didn't really like this video

[river veldt]

finally finished Arkham Knight

[craggy vine]

Obsessing over a game's graphics and performance is stupid honestly. I just want to enjoy the damn games now in the free time I finally get after 4 years.

[sour hill]

Did Batman win?

[river veldt]

kinda

idk if im gonna do the Riddler trophies or not

it seems like a lot

to get the true ending i have to get all of them

but i might just look it up

[sour hill]

Yeah you can get the true ending online

[river veldt]

:kramerthatstrue:

idk what to play now

[sour hill]

Could go back to dark souls

[minor plover]

to me, what matters in a game graphics-wise is consistency and readability. Which is to say, the graphics make it so that I know what's happening in the game.

[river veldt]

:perhapscow:

[minor plover]

like, I don't need "hyper-realistic" medpacks. But they should look about as realistic as the rest of the game, while also standing out in some way so that they're an obvious powerup.

[sour hill]

This is why pong's graphics have never been bested

[river veldt]

maybe i'll play Skyrim

[slim thorn]

AW2 looks pretty great overall, but what I was positively surprised by the most is the quality of NPC animations outside of cutscenes, not by any of the stuff that a bleeding edge GPU might improve

I've noticed survival horror benefits more from high-fidelity realistic graphics than a lot of genres, because those games tend to walk a tightrope of giving you enough information to make decisions, punishing enough that the decisions always matter, but also just unpredictable enough that you can never be completely sure your decisions were optimal

it's much easier to be confident that the game is doing that on purpose when the thing you're seeing twitch erratically is an otherwise super hi-rez humanoid

[wind stump]

i would enjoy ragdolling the common infected

and while I don't really care either way about the realism thing, i like there being the option for people who want a more grounded experience without having to rely on Realism mode by itself.

[fresh bane]

It varies a lot, but overall the quality of their animations and especially the facial animations and expressions are wild, I've noticed they're particularly insanely good on one specific character for some reason

The seamless transitions between either the live action footage segments or the pre rendered cutscenes into gameplay is also really well done

[slim thorn]

during Initiation 1 I was briefly unsure if it was live action, they got the two styles to look so similar

[fresh bane]

:flutternod: it's great

[fresh bane]

It's pretty crazy how much you can mod L4D2, I've seen similar mods of this manner for Gmod too

That said I don't think I will ever understand this obsession and the craze for super tacti-cool realistic presentation in games, I saw the final result of that mod video and thought it was impressive how much customization you can get away with but I also thought it made the game look way more forgettable and boring to me

I've noticed I have a particular gripe about how common it's been to animate guns ''realistically'' in fps, seems like people really love those types of animations but to me it makes every game look like the same one

[slim thorn]

at least for me, a lot of graphical technology only becomes interesting when more artistic uses are found to make "unrealistic" game worlds more immersive

[fresh bane]

It makes me appreciate Valve's more stylistic and simple approach to animating weapons more

[slim thorn]

dynamic lighting, for example, is desirable in almost any art style, though it wasn't practical for a long time

I do appreciate weapon animations being... plausible? like, making sense with the basic construction of the weapon, but of course I also think if you don't make up any fictional weapons you're missing half the fun

there are also certain aspects of real weapon reloads that are just satisfying to include in fiction anyway, like the way bolt action rifles reload (if your game balance wants slower reloading rifles), or the way Garands go ping

[fresh bane]

It's not even about that necessarily, there's just a very very specific and certain weightiness and rhythm to these types of 'realistic' fps animations that gets recreated a lot and seems to be very popular, there's entire channels dedicated to it with animators that specifically dedicate to this one thing

https://youtu.be/TZY3MK8BYrQ?si=OR83FIcjnPsUPzcD

an example

[river veldt]

i totally agree

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/Lk_0VHXiyJA?si=FhHj0EPXAZmT_6a4

[slim thorn]

where's that video of silly reload animations for random objects

[river veldt]

i like those ones where they reload toilet paper holders

[fresh bane]

I think I've seen a few of those but I think they're people reloading random objects IRL

That Hyper channel has a few of those types of videos I believe but they're silly reload animations with guns not random objects
https://youtu.be/9WasgRxx6r4?si=nF31mcgsDifMK0oN

The ''fad'' nowadays is to make every FPS shooter have that same presentation as that one bodycam game that came out and people were losing their minds over how real it looks!1111

[river veldt]

Super Shotgun from Doom 2 is the best reload animation

[fresh bane]

I've always wanted to see a ''big'' game that kind of goes for that eurojank vision when making a game, don't worry about having cutting edge visuals in fact if necessary downgrade your visuals bonus points if you're actually going for a particular style like n64 era visuals, so that instead you can focus on making your game as dynamic, interactive, in-depth as possible
I want to play a game where I feel like the possibilities of interaction between my character and the world are infinite but it looks like morrowind

[slim thorn]

for now all the pixel art indies are good enough for me

[fresh bane]

I also definitely think like that a lot more now because as it turns out if you want your game to keep up with the latest of visuals then apparently that shoots up the budget way up into the stratosphere!
And I honestly don't care that much about seeing all the pores in my characters' skin if it means most of the budget went into making the game just look good

[slim thorn]

instead spend it on having a pop song after each chapter and a random Finnish horror movie in the middle

[fresh bane]

Exactly

the things that truly matter

[green fulcrum]

One thing I never see any of these reload animations do, official or fanmade, is tapping the bottom of the magazine to make sure it's fully seated. It's a crucial step that could actually mean life or death in combat, and nobody ever animates it.

You always see the insert but never see them check.

In reality an insert often isn't enough

[fresh bane]

I think I remember some animations maybe from Counter Strike where that's done, I think

I will say even though I don't care about any of that stuff, I do find it cool that whenever switching weapons in RE: Revelations 2 the character will check their weapons when switching, if you're switching to a handgun the character will slide it back to check if it's loaded and then go into their normal stance

[green fulcrum]

Also, a faster method instead of ripping out the magazine is to press the magazine release button (if there is one, which there usually is) and simply jerk-flip the gun, ejecting the magazine faster and allowing your free hand an extra second or two to get a new magazine to reload.

[fresh bane]

I suppose it depends for the game and also you'd need to take into account gameplay mechanics
I remember a detail in RE8 was that Ethan would not just throw away the magazine but instead he would let it fall into his hand, have another mag ready to go, put it in and put the other one away instead of throwing it away

Which kind of makes sense in a survival horror setting

[river veldt]

poor guy

always getting his hands chopped off

[fresh bane]

I want to say that, for me, I had the same type of obsession with reloading animations but with RE4

Say what you want about feeling like the stand still and shoot style tank controls are limiting, but it allowed for some cool stuff like showing off those stylish animations

In the remake they're severely toned down, because of course, and I get why

also tying back to the whole visuals/graphic discussion I'd be completely fine if graphics plateau'd at that Gamecube era late PS2 style visuals, I still think games like RE1R, RE4 and SH3 are incredible looking games that hold up to this day and I'd be fine if games stayed looking like that personally

especially if it allowed for the game itself to be better rather than allocating time and money into making it look as true to life as possible

[green fulcrum]

This sort of thing does make sense in the context of the setting, but in real life would be very unwieldy unless you have some great ambidexterity, which most people don't.

[fresh bane]

To be fair most people probably don't even know how to shoot a gun

[green fulcrum]

Also true

[fresh bane]

I'd probably clumsily drop both mags, try to pick them up, and shoot myself in the face

[green fulcrum]

To this day it makes me visibly CRINGE when I see people in movies, shows, and IRL have their finger on the trigger when reloading or when they aren't facing down-range.

[strong pebble]

I shot three bullets

[green fulcrum]

Trigger discipline is something every gun owner needs to learn, and 90% of the gun nuts in the world don't know what it is.

[fresh bane]

I'm not gonna say I disagree but I also think that starts to fall into nitpicky territory for the people who know how things properly work, the kind of thing that bothers you but other people probably don't even register

[green fulcrum]

It's not nitpicky, it's a necessary safety measure.

[fresh bane]

Just like I probably don't see any glaring issues with fighting coreographies but any experienced fighter seeing any fight occur on film would probably be ripping out their own hair

[strong pebble]

And I was putting bullets into the magazine but it was super hard

[green fulcrum]

You do NOT put your finger on the trigger of a gun, loaded or unloaded, unless you're actually aiming it at something that you intend to shoot.

So many people have died because they didn't follow this simple rule.

It's not a nitpick, it's a hard truth that all gun owners and enthusiasts NEED to understand, respect, and follow.

[fresh bane]

I'm not saying trigger discipline is a nitpick I'm just talking about the portrayal of these things in film or media in general

It's stuff that people unfamiliar with these things probably don't even register as they probably never have or will shoot a gun
I do think they should be properly portrayed

I think RE4R does it pretty well generally, there's even dynamic sets of animations where Leon does the center axis thing if enemies he's aiming at are too close

[green fulcrum]

Yeah, you should try to hit the center of mass if you're actually trying to kill an opponent, but in movies, shows, and games they always go for headshots because they look way cooler. And yeah, I can understand that for the cinematic feel, so that is a bit of a nitpick, because it's still very likely that you're gonna kill the person whether you shoot them in the chest or the head, but the reasoning for aiming at the center of mass is that you have a much bigger target, so the chances of you missing are far less.

[slim thorn]

I'm very familiar with trigger discipline but I only nitpick it if I see a character who should've been trained better mess it up

[green fulcrum]

Which I see far too often in military movies

[slim thorn]

a lot of these survival horror games have protagonists who aren't meant to be firearms experts just trying not to die

[green fulcrum]

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

I'm talking about gun enthusiasts when I'm talking about trigger discipline.

So many of them should know better but don't.

Even some soldiers too

[fresh bane]

I think it makes sense for reloading but I'm not gonna complain if a character always has their finger on the trigger on a game, most of the times these characters are in zones where there's active threats so that makes sense

Would it be cool if it had some sort of dynamic animation system like that? Absolutely, but that wraps back to the whole "I want games to have more depth in exchange of not being able to see all the pores on my characters skin" argument from earlier

[strong pebble]

Did anyone here put bullets in a magazine?

Was it hard for you

[slim thorn]

I have been to a firing range and used a real gun before, which included the loading part

[green fulcrum]

Wasn't hard at all

[river veldt]

ive handled a gun once before

[slim thorn]

I wouldn't call it "hard", though you don't expect it to require as firm a push as it does to get them in there

[river veldt]

it was alright

[green fulcrum]

You just take the bullet and push the bullet in.

[rancid herald]

it depends on the magazine, really. National Geographic is okay but if it's vogue you're shit out of luck

[visual hill]

this gun's magazine capacity has been reduced from five bullets per clip to four slugs per pellet

[sour hill]

No

[hasty patio]

They don't publish Nat Geo anymore (at least on paper).

[hushed onyx]

[strong pebble]

Really

[random steppe]

Poor slugs

[fresh bane]

Alan Wake 2 spoilers

|| Dr Darliiing!! so he had been listening in on Alan going crazy huh ||

[river veldt]

wait is this a real guy or a animated guy

[fresh bane]

|| ''Have we met? You look familiar...'' ''You sound familiar!'' Hah! Cute detail ||

[fresh bane]

Alan Wake always used a lot of live action footage in their games

[mossy flume]

It’s very live action

The studio in general loves using live action recordings in their games

Control has some

[visual hill]

it's the sentence you use to rile gun enthusiasts up 😛

people will always point it out in YouTube comments when you use an incorrect term for a gun in some game

[mossy flume]

Heh, gun enthusiasts are a special level of pedantic that rivals that of programmers

[river veldt]

that's so cool

[fresh bane]

|| ''and so I return. with me I bear the torch of knowledge, and the light, the miracle illuminated. the master of two worlds. No, the master of many worlds'' ||