general gaming

[fresh bane]

maybe Garret didn't stick the landing and smacked his head on the corner of that rooftop

I kinda wish this game had more aerial options, though that may be my DMC brain talking, but I may just need to get the hang of it and find what other crazy stuff you can do

I also wish the enemies had more health, though again it might be because of DMC even with the more health option in the arcade mode they still die so quickly

also, unintentionally synced up with the bgm here:

[strong pebble]

Nire did you play Devil May Cry Peak of combat

[fresh bane]

even though I have no personal attachment to it I appreciate that they went full on with specifically the cartoon style of tmnt

No and I don't really have any interest in a gacha DMC game

[strong pebble]

What if it's like fair

And you can buy things if you are a noob

[fresh bane]

I don't see why I would play an extremely watered down version of DMC with gacha mechanics and an ugly UI
they had something going on with the beta where you could actually do interesting things and it was an actually good mobile version of DMC but when they released that internationally they went full on gacha game

even if it released in the state that it was before I don't see myself playing a mobile game anyways but at least for anyone who did want to play one it was good before, now not only is it a gacha game it's also bad so I don't see the point

https://youtu.be/ivndcMphvm0?si=yEy-iE3OFLEWKBom

they had something going on but they had to ruin it

[uneven epoch]

one of my favorite encounters in fire emblem three houses is death knight 1 during rite of rebirth. its so early in the game ur kids arent all that high level yet (unless ur abusing normal mode of course) nor do you have SOTC with you yet. the game outright telling me "please dont mess with the guy he will flatten you" activates some gremlin response in me.

on ng+ it is downright delightful to one shot him with lysithea's dark spikes T on first turn bc tis what she deserves, but im not on ng+ this time and i forgor to speedrun leveling reason to B bc i was too busy to get budding talent in swords (soulblade thunderbrand my beloved).

so instead i had to get creative, taking pot shots with gambits and usin claude and byleth's main character beefiness to tank what's otherwise a KO counter for curved shot, wrath strike and finish with lysithea's glass cannon Luna A... love that for myself. having a wonderful time, ||get fucked jeritza you edgelord||. and well, satisfaction of fight aside an early dark seal is a great bonus too

[craggy vine]

[mossy flume]

https://www.engadget.com/nintendo-starts-shutting-down-online-play-for-wii-u-and-3ds-months-ahead-of-schedule-191720412.html

[fresh bane]

it's a christmas miracle!

[mossy flume]

[visual hill]

Pretendo shall save the day

[craggy vine]

This picture made me remember why I get confused with xbox controls

Why must the a and b be switched

[visual hill]

might be a Japan/US thing, remember that the "confirm" action is on the right in Japan while it's at the bottom in the US

(see the Playstation controller: O is confirmation in Japan, but X is used in US/EU)

[bronze abyss]

yea in japan its cirlce to confirm on ps

[craggy vine]

Oh huh

[bronze abyss]

it actually makes more sense idk where they got the X from for the west

[visual hill]

pretty sure they used X to confirm because it needed to be edgy for an US release

O is too conformist 😶

there may be a better explanation but it's the main one I can think of when I see Japan/US differences

(there is a trope for it, "US Kirby is Angry" because Kirby always appears angry on US boxart, but not on Japan boxart)

[bronze abyss]

ah yes the edgiest things known to man needed to appeal to western audience
sonic the hedgehod,a weirdass bandicoot,and X instead of cirlce

[craggy vine]

I'm still a firm believe of X being accept and triangle being cancel

PS2 supremacy

[visual hill]

triangle being cancel is a PS1 thing, PS2 already switched to O as I recall

[craggy vine]

And PS2

No I have a bunch of games on PS2 that used triangle to go back

I think the OS used circle for back though

[visual hill]

maybe

this also reminds me how Gran Turismo 1/2 have entirely different soundtrack in Japan, US and EU

Japan is chill jazz to relax and study to, while US and EU are pop rock (with menu soundtracks being synth music that I find pretty good)

[craggy vine]

I miss when a characters voice in a game would literally say something like 'press the X button to jump'

[visual hill]

haha, that tends to be too 4th-wall for me

[craggy vine]

I love the 4th wall break of it

'Did you know that you can hold the A button to glide while mid air? Oh you did? Okay'

Somebody tell me to press the X button to me irl as I go to jump over something

[fresh bane]

For the same reason the Playstation and Xbox didn't just identically make the same controller as the previous Nintendo consoles at the time

It's their design that they probably own, you can't just replicate it, so they switched the buttons

[bronze abyss]

p sure sony does literaly own thje design,not sure abouty the other 2

[strong pebble]

I really like my Xbox

[craggy vine]

Interesting

[fresh bane]

In Japan, the 'O' actually has a name, and it's used as a confirmation mark for everything, it's just how their language and culture is, in english and other languages there really isn't anything similar other than a check mark and there's no check mark button so you just make the more familiar symbol which is the X the confirmation instead

As of now even in Japanese games they have switched it to being X for confirmation and O for cancel all across the board

[craggy vine]

That must be confusing for them

[fresh bane]

That's also probably why the triangle was the cancel button in the PS1, because it probably didn't really matter so they didn't know which one to really use

[strong pebble]

I play Xbox because A is like aaaaaaa you open your mouth and B is like beh bleh you don't want this food

[astral steeple]

i have an xbox one, and a ps5, and xbox one is my main console

[green fulcrum]

This brings back fond memories. The old Spyro games did this a lot, and it was always so charming.

[astral steeple]

i pretty much only use my ps5 if i want to play spiderman remastered, or play fort with much better graphics than on xbox one

though i really havent been trying to make the ps5 become my main console

rather stay on xbox one

despite like every dev refusing to release new games on the xbox one at all

[fickle garnet]

Im trying to decide whether i want to buy Divinity: Original Sin 2 or Lethal Company on steam with my gift card

[visual barn]

What should I replay first? AC: Black Flag or Far Cry 4?

[river veldt]

Far Cry 4

[chilly mural]

please tell me if you play this game, it's fucking siiiiick

[river veldt]

i like the bad guy in that game

Pagan Min

it would have been cool if when you got the secret ending you got a whole different path of the game

[visual barn]

Thanks, time to see if I really remember every inch of that beautful Kyrat

I

[fresh bane]

Well I don't know right now since I'm just dipping my toes in this stuff with Shredder's Revenge but the fact that it was made by a guy from here is putting it in my radar at least

[fickle garnet]

I bought Divinity: Original Sin 2

[chilly mural]

also the former party of castle super beast played it too

[green fulcrum]

Oooooo, I hope you have fun! Before Baldur's Gate 3, D:OS 2 was considered the best CRPG on the planet (and to be perfectly honest, I still prefer quite a few aspects of it over BG3, particularly in combat and spells, although that's not really BG3's fault but D&D's)

[fickle garnet]

I'll be playing it when i build my pc

[green fulcrum]

Be prepared though, the combat can be brutal sometimes, especially in Tactician. There's also quite a few moments where you will be afraid.

[fickle garnet]

I'll let you know when i start playing it gt!

[teal cliff]

DOS2 does have straight up better combat, not being tied to D&D allows it the freedom to make a combat system intended for video games and not tabletop rpgs

[bronze abyss]

time to get enlisted as a sniper,mf got fucked up through the busges could only see its antlers

[white phoenix]

why are you hunting down your own kind

[green fulcrum]

One moment in particular in early Act 2, to be precise. There will be other times, but that moment where all of your characters are separated (you'll know it when you get to it) is truly terrifying, especially if you're not expecting it.

[bronze abyss]

was uuuh testing if friendly fire was on

[fickle garnet]

I know almost nothing about D:OS2 besides that its turn based

[green fulcrum]

Also, just a tip to remember: ranged characters in D:OS 2 are OP. Every party needs at least one, because they absolutely shred everyone and everything they come across.

This goes for enemies too.

Always always always take out the ranged enemies and mages first. You'll thank me later.

[fickle garnet]

I hope i remember that

[teal cliff]

I remember my archer in DOS2 being quite strong

the mages in it are neat too

[green fulcrum]

Theoretically, every character can be a mage, a melee fighter, and an archer all at once. They just won't be able to specialize very well.

Thus, it's better to have the classic four archetype party: archer, tank/fighter, healer, mage.

For my party, I usually have The Red Prince as my fighter, damage-soaker tank, and backup mage (at least for fire and earth spells); Ifan as my archer (obviously), crowd controller, and backup healer (first aid spell, my beloved); Fane as my primary mage, identifier, and terrain-changer; and Lohse as my primary healer, buffer, and terrain-clearer (rain spell, my beloved).

Oh, almost forgot, if you want the greatest amount of mobility for both Ifan and The Red Prince for this party, give Ifan a little bit of the warfare skill and The Red Prince a little bit of the huntsman skill, just enough for both of them to get each other's jumping ability. This way, both of them will have two jumping abilities, and since the two jump abilities are in different spell categories, you can use both on the same turn, enabling you to move extremely far and fast across the battlefield. It's absolutely necessary for an archer to gain a sniping position from up high, and I highly recommend it for a melee fighter so that you can move quickly to either create chokepoints or to defend your support characters.

[static bluff]

Very fun game

[visual barn]

Welcome home, my friend!
Yeah, we're gonna have a good time!
Welcome home again!
Come into this world of mine

[green fulcrum]

Eyyyyy, I know that tune! :D

It's one of my many, many jams: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ2SE8sGSjM

[visual barn]

I love this song

[visual barn]

It's going to be a little hard to get in tune with keyboard an mouse Ajay, but wow still a beautiful place

[proud warren]

shovel my beloved

[dire gate]

@slim thorn I forgot to ask, have you been checking for all the stepladder jokes in the game?

[river veldt]

ha this is really funny
https://fixupx.com/syacvg/status/1739716950949859600?s=46

[slim thorn]

I wasn't aware this was a thing to be doing consciously; I found the one in Studio 1 organically

[dire gate]

It is a staple joke throughout the entire franchise. They even have a steam achievement for it iirc

The script is basically identical, but it's fun to see if you can find all the stepladders in the games

[dense crypt]

there's also a text file sitting by two dead dudes and a motorcycle by a train tunnel entrance

[minor belfry]

Bloody hell why is MGS2 so hard!!

[minor belfry]

I’ve died 22 times now in this one area (yes I’ve been counting)

[craggy vine]

Yeah exactly

[craggy vine]

Yeah older games can be harder I find

[minor belfry]

I’m taking a break from it for now.

[craggy vine]

It's like how GTA5 is way easier than GTA3

[gaunt marten]

Old games can be easy too

[pseudo surge]

I just played through Final Fantasy 2 and yeah, that game is easy, few enemies/bosses pose any real danger. Some do, but they are few.

[gaunt marten]

I love Final Fantasy 2 specifically because of how you can abuse the stat system

[pseudo surge]

It was alright, but didn't feel the need to abuse the system, I kind of just walked along and completed the game. I wiped once to the last boss because I thought I'd be smart and mana drain him, but when he just auto attacks, he is so nuch more dangerous

[gaunt marten]

It's not that you need to abuse the system. It's that you can

[pseudo surge]

It does have a lot of freedom with gear and spell choices, which is nice

[gaunt marten]

I like the GBA version of FF2 that has an extra post game chapter with much trickier enemies

[pseudo surge]

GBA?

[bronze abyss]

eh gta isnt a good example of age=difficulty imo,most of the difficulty comes from the lack of quality of life features not actual design

[gaunt marten]

Game Boy Advance

[pseudo surge]

Ah

[mossy flume]

That moment when someone doesn’t immediately recognize what GBA means in the context of gaming

You just aged me by 20 years

[pseudo surge]

I'm probably older than you, I just didn't have a GBA

And wasn't around any who did

[minor belfry]

Not really sure what to play now. I’ve played Devil May Cry and Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty. Now what?
The games I haven’t played yet that I recently acquired are:

Soul Reaver 2
Hitman 2: Silent Assassin
Oni
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
James Bond 007: Everything or Nothing
SOCOM: U.S Navy Seals

[gaunt marten]

https://finalfantasywiki.com/wiki/Dawn_of_souls

The GBA version is my favorite

[pseudo surge]

[mossy flume]

https://www.gameinformer.com/2023/12/26/vomit-and-ginger-candy-inside-the-vr-qa-process

[craggy vine]

wow

[quiet swift]

Huh. Going through my steam wishlist, i'd forgotten about this. Hope we get more info about it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmefiirV0JM

[sage iris]

ah yes, the "not bioshock" game

[quiet swift]

The trailer does say "from the creator of bioshock". My man, i could've told you that even without the text

[proud warren]

blah; this was my first monkey ball experience

was generally fun, but like, oooo, some of those stages

[strong pebble]

Did you like it?

[minor belfry]

I did!

[wind stump]

I GONK
THEREFORE I AM

[light gate]

Gonks really are the unsung heroes.

[wind stump]

what is this, FFXIV?
Aurmarot?

[strong pebble]

I'm playing the Witcher and I didn't want to play cards with a bad guy because I don't know how and now they want to beat me up

[gaunt marten]

You should have just said yes

The game teaches you how

(they still beat you up after)

[strong pebble]

I pressed Yes but it didn't have tutorials

So I had once before but I forgot

[gaunt marten]

Right. You're playing The Witcher 3?

[strong pebble]

So basically Witcher sat down looked at the cards and throw them 😭😆😆 and so I used Load game

[gaunt marten]

Witcher 3 Gwent guide:
1- Put cards on your side of the field.
2- Each card adds strength. Make sure your total strength is higher than the enemy.

3- Best out of three wins the overall match, so ration yourself.

That's all you need to know

[visual hill]

I always ignored Gwent so far

[gaunt marten]

I liked Gwent fine

[strong pebble]

Witcher 3: everyone lies to you and want to fight with you

[craggy vine]

Somehow.. 10W mode is unplayable... 15W mode is great... And then 25W mode is a very small improvment over 30W

Got a good 2 and a half gaming session in... While connected to my phone charger from 100% battery

It went down to 7% in 2.5 hours while charging

[graceful bridge]

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2023/12/ars-technicas-best-video-games-of-2023/

[teal cliff]

Starfield

[sour hill]

Starflield!!!!!!

[teal cliff]

Honestly this year wasn't amazing as far as releases go, I think 2022 was probably better.

and 2021 was absolutely the best of this current decade thusfar.

[sour hill]

Sounds like someone who didn't play the new call of duty!

[teal cliff]

The last time I played a COD game on release was black ops 3

[unreal idol]

I honestly literally do not remember what came out in 2021 or 2022

But I think 2023 has been good for games, maybe the one positive thing

[sour hill]

Elden Ring!!!!!!!!!!

💍

[teal cliff]

for 2022 the bigger releases of the year were Horizon Forbidden West and God of War Ragnarok, as well as Elden Ring

Though also a bunch of other great stuff came out

[gaunt marten]

I liked 2023 a lot

[teal cliff]

Triangle Strategy, Stray, Citizen Sleeper, Neon White, Splatoon 3,

Vampire Survivors,

DNF Duel, Pokemon Legends Arceus,

[unreal idol]

Triangle Strategy was 2023

[teal cliff]

Cult of the Lamb, Tunic

[unreal idol]

Wasn't it?

[teal cliff]

It was most certainly not

Early 2022

[unreal idol]

I could swear it came out early 2023

[unreal idol]

Because my husband was playing it a lot after my surgery

Huh

[teal cliff]

the PC port came out later but it was still 2022

October

[unreal idol]

TIL it's on PC

[dire gate]

Maybe you thought about Octopass traveler 2?

[unreal idol]

Octopath Traveler 2 is out!?

?????

[dire gate]

OT2 was out since early 2023

[unreal idol]

I honestly don't remember this

I've barely played the first one

[teal cliff]

PK doing a lot of learning in the last few minutes

[unreal idol]

Honestly games have not been super interesting to me in 2021 or 2022

The only games mentioned that clicked for me were Triangle strategy and Splatoon 3

[teal cliff]

2021 had I Was a Teenage Exocolonist

so it has to be a good year

[unreal idol]

I've not heard of that one either

[teal cliff]

but it also had Deathloop, Hitman 3, Resi: Village, Monster Hunter Rise, Kena Bridge of Spirits, Biomutant, the ME Legendary edition, Little Nightmares 2, Guilty Gear Strive, Ratchet and Clank Rift Apart,

And some games I didn't care for but a lot of people did like halo infinite, inscryption, forza 5, It takes two, metroid dread, psychonauts 2, marvels guardians of the galaxy, far cry 6

[unreal idol]

I see

[teal cliff]

by viewing this definitely objective chart of the 100 best games of all time you can see that I Was a Teenage Exocolonist is #1

[uneven epoch]

fe3h top 4? ill take it

of course it should be higher, but ill take it

[teal cliff]

It would've been higher if Linhardt could be a Gremory

[unreal idol]

I suppose the games this year has been good

The one good thing about 2023

[uneven epoch]

pain and misery and agony

[unreal idol]

But yeah many of these titles are unknown to me

[uneven epoch]

here's one for all our dreams of dark mage lys, gremory lyn, war master hilda etcetera etcetera

[teal cliff]

the titles from this year i've liked include Goodbye Volcano High, Spiderman 2, Stray Gods, Fire Emblem Engage, and Diablo 4
But like, Engage and Diablo 4 are just kinda "good" but not amazing

[teal cliff]

also I think the DLC maps are poop but I like the DLC story and the Ashen Wolves as characters.

[unreal idol]

For me this year it's been TotK, Mario Wonder, and SMRPG

[teal cliff]

I just... man, some of those maps 😔

[uneven epoch]

didnt like the run away in this many turns maps?

[unreal idol]

Been also having a lot of fun with Darktide

Need to play more AC6 too but I think the story is terrible

So it's hard to enjoy

[teal cliff]

I love getting a game over if any of my units fall
And not being able to grind or customize them beforehand

I haven't played Ac6 yet, I want to.

[uneven epoch]

yeah the locked classes of dlc are. sadge

[unreal idol]

The game play is fun but it's an extremely heavy game. It makes me upset

[uneven epoch]

its the only time ive used any armored class lmaooo

they're just too slow n magic vulnerable for me

[teal cliff]

Three Hopes was surprisingly great

like

easily my 2nd favourite Fire Emblem title

[uneven epoch]

i have not finished that one shhhh

[sour hill]

Oh yeah armored core is def on my list to play at some point

[teal cliff]

It is better than it has any right to be and also more flagrantly gay so I enjoyed that

[uneven epoch]

i started and then just. uh. went back to another 3h replay lol

rlly need that turn based combat fix for my mental wellbeing sometime

[teal cliff]

this woman is down terrible, someone please get her a date.

[uneven epoch]

fe3h is my go to comfy game

now if only i didnt need to babysit gilbert on this map...

[teal cliff]

My entire strategy for the base game of 3h devolved into a strategy I called Turbert, short for Turbo Hubert

Basically Lysithea teleporting him into the middle of the entire enemy force and letting him get to work

[dire gate]

JustMonica

[thorny loom]

[uneven epoch]

i kinda just let lys go gremlin

[visual hill]

as someone who doesn't pay much attention to new releases, even 2022 managed to feel quite dry

2022 does mark the first year where Sony really upped their PC port game though (no pun intended). It's a hat trick of great PC ports, 3 in a row (God of War + Spider-Man + Miles Morales)

[uneven epoch]

why yes darling you can get a horse, two relics and all my stat item buffs

now go murder everyone for me

i love one shotting everything halfway across a map

[visual hill]

OG Far Cry is like that, except it's you getting one shot

bonus points if it was an AI that spotted you through a tent if you didin't install the tent fix 🙂

[river veldt]

same

[random steppe]

This year has been so good that I constantly forget games when looking back on it

There has been too much stuff I enjoyed, and I also have like, 2 or 3 titles that i didn't have time to play and I have to go back to

At least usually the start of the year is not super good for games, so I might have time to catch up on some of them

[thorny loom]

Dont forget with all the good we got some of the worst games ever too

[gaunt marten]

Eh

[thorny loom]

And one literal scam!

[gaunt marten]

The worst games of the year were all just mismatched expectations

[static bluff]

Flitter, a game you have wishlisted on Steam is free on Epic atm - https://store.epicgames.com/en-US/p/cursed-to-golf-a6bc22

[gaunt marten]

Yeah but fuck epic

[astral steeple]

free games is free games

[gaunt marten]

In fact I'm just removing my steam wishlist out of spite

[static bluff]

okay

[astral steeple]

and they really arent **that **bad

especially compared to other game companies

[quiet swift]

Man you are truly brainwashed

[astral steeple]

not really

[gaunt marten]

I can always have free games if I want by simply pirating them

[random steppe]

Epic is okay

[thorny loom]

The only thing i ever bought from the epic store was kingdom hearts 1 and 2 for pc

[random steppe]

Valve is a bit better, but not that much

[thorny loom]

This year valve made some major gains

[astral steeple]

epic is tame compared to a lot of the shit that happens at other game companies

cough activision cough

[thorny loom]

Lot of the gaming companies who had their own launchers started releasing their games on steam again

[static bluff]

I got four copies cus this looks really fun

[random steppe]

Valve has the better service hands down, but mostly because EGS is terrible and I feel it just got worse since it released.

[gaunt marten]

Have fun! It's an enjoyable game

[thorny loom]

Yeah. That was really stopped epic from being a major competitor

[astral steeple]

EGS has had some improvements here and there

[thorny loom]

They didnt want to spend all that fortnite money on actually improving their launcher/store

[random steppe]

But also, Epic doesn't enable kids gambing through their store and their games, definitely the more ethical companies between the two despite Fortnite dark patterns if you ask me

[gaunt marten]

The reason I don't like to engage with Epic is they tend to choose being developer friendly over being consumer friendly when faced with the option, and as a consumer I don't like that.

[astral steeple]

well yeah their focus isnt on the EGS

its on slowly shifting fortnite itself into a "everything game"/platform /metaverse

thats what their spending most of their time on

[random steppe]

Well actually, they also did pretty awful layoffs so maybe this isn't the case anymore, it's still a race tho

[astral steeple]

pretty much every company gaming related has done layoffs this year

that isnt specifically only an epic thing

[static bluff]

Tech in general, really

[astral steeple]

yeah pretty much

[random steppe]

I mean, I don't really care about Fortnite, and when I click on the EGS button it takes 5 mnutes to load and tends to freeze my computer for seconds at a time, so sorry, that software is shit and I hate to use it.

[gaunt marten]

The layoffs are primarily a consequence of companies overextending because interest rates have reached historical lows and the execs' eyes were replaced with cash symbols

[astral steeple]

plus they were literally spending more money than they were actually making

[gaunt marten]

Yes that's what overextending means

[random steppe]

There is no game launcher that should perform as badly as that one on a gaming computer with 32 GB of ram

[static bluff]

Mmhmm, companies that were aggressive are having ebb and flow issues. Very conservative companies are having an easier time right now.

[astral steeple]

i dont think ive ever really had any issues with EGS at all on my pc, or my brother's pc

it just boots right up without any freezing

[thorny loom]

Also i really only use EGS for when i open the ark dev kit

which eats 32 gb of ram btw

[random steppe]

Yeah those companies are bad too

[astral steeple]

i only use it if i have to claim like a free item or something for fort or fall guys when they have an item thats pc only

i mainly play on xbox one

i dont really use my pc for games at all

[thorny loom]

Most of my activity otherwise on egs is just claiming free games

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/playstation/status/1740047563577758189? @graceful bridge

[thorny loom]

[random steppe]

Well overall bad is maybe hasty, but it's bad that they laid off a bunch of people

[graceful bridge]

I have never heard of these games.

[little badger]

Evil west is a good game.

[astral steeple]

the other big thing that was costing them a lot was that whole 40% net revenue to map/game creators thing

was like super hefty due to people abusing it by making like super simple duplicate games of stuff that other people already did

And the licensing for the collabs/etc

also super expensive

[thorny loom]

Plague tale is about rats

[little badger]

[random steppe]

All I'm hearing is that they are bad at their jobs so they had to lay off a bunch of people.
Did the executives salaries got cut because of it?

[gaunt marten]

How do they even lose money by taking a 60% cut?

[random steppe]

I think a large part of Epic expenses is the games they give away

And in general promotions for the EGS

[gaunt marten]

It could be

[random steppe]

Which is good, i like those, more money to the devs and more games to consumers

[astral steeple]

yeah the free games and promotions and the collabs are probably the most expensive part

especially for the harder to get characters/celebrities

like Eminem, the rock, etc

[random steppe]

Also I must admit, their sales are basically old Steam Sales level

Back when they were good

[gaunt marten]

Would be nice if they had regional discounts

[random steppe]

Yeah it sucks that they don't do that

Valve is definitely better about region pricing by a very large margin.

[astral steeple]

eminem especially must have cost a ridiculous amount

jack Skellington too

[random steppe]

Which is what I mean with the fact that the EGS is insuffiecent.
I was actually a lot more positive on it when it released, but years have passed and it really didn't change that much.

I don't even care about community features, I don't really use them on Steam and Steam forums are actually tied with 4chan with the worst place online, so I'm fine with Epic not having that, but it needs to be competing with Steam on store features and right now is just doesn't

And it doesn't seem to be making any strides towards that after all these years

[dire gate]

Honestly I have to say, I cannot but doubt that those collabs were that beneficial, especially if it was so costly that they had to suffer significant loss

[random steppe]

The Fortnite collabs are always gonna make money I feel.
It's the EGS side that is bleeding money

[astral steeple]

from what theyve mentioned in interviews, theyve confirmed the collabs wont be slowing down/stopping at all

theyre gonna continue to keep doing them

thankfully

back when donald mustard retired as chief creative officer and Charlie wen took his place i was a bit skeptical on if the collabs would stop at all

Charlie seems to be like still fully on board with the whole idea luckily

so the journey towards an everything game will continue

[thorny loom]

Look i just want my shrek skin

[astral steeple]

same

like with how insane 2023 and 2022 were for collabs, 2024 has the chance to be even more insane for collabs

[dire gate]

I'm still unsure about the whole "oh this is an everything game" concept, but I guess it's better for a game to have a goal that is not just "we make more money money good"

Not that they don't try to make more money

[random steppe]

I mean, it's basically Smash Bros as an idea

[astral steeple]

kinda bigger than that

since its not just game characters

[random steppe]

Yeah but it's still just that

[dire gate]

Yes but also it is kind of proven that just "oh we have characters" is not really what sells

[astral steeple]

its more than just the characters

[random steppe]

It's what sold Smash for a lot of people

[dire gate]

It does appeal, but eventually the game itself is what sells

[young creek]

I started playing Fortnite when they added My Hero Academia characters and now Im playing again because they added Peter Griffin

[random steppe]

Oh yeah, you have to like the game, but that applies for Smash as well, if you hate smash you are not gonna play it no matter who they add.

[dire gate]

My point is that while I understand the concept, it can't be the core of the game

[random steppe]

And yeah they are also adding gamemodes and stuff, so it's not just one game, necessarily, but also, it's one main game mode at the very least

[dire gate]

So the entire game wanting to be "the everything game" feels somewhat weird to me

That is a great marketing material

But not a great development goal

[astral steeple]

the other part of it is to slowly have every possible game you'd want to play spanning every possible genre

built by full on game devs and teams

[dire gate]

That is even weirder to me, because why would you play fortnite if you want other genres

[random steppe]

Like, very few people that hated Warcraft 3, were buying it to play a custom map, and so far that's what they are doing in fortnite. custom maps.

It's been done before

[dire gate]

Yes for sure but again

[random steppe]

And on paper you could play a RPG in Warcraft 3, it was made, but people really didn't

[dire gate]

That's not what WC3's core gameplay was

[astral steeple]

there's a multitude of reasons to have your game within the fort ecosystem

[young creek]

The custom maps were the real game in WC3 though..

[dire gate]

Like you would buy a whole fucking racing game if you want to play a racing game

[unreal idol]

Fortnite is baffling to me

[dire gate]

Not play a racing game map in WC3

[random steppe]

There is also a multitude of reasons not to also.

[sour hill]

Could say the same about the old counter strikes tbh

[astral steeple]

with the rocket racing you have your rocket league cars able to be usable within it

And any cars you get within fort can then also be used within rocket league

[gaunt marten]

I can't put bill gates in my drug empire game but I can in WC3

[unreal idol]

Like it has no identity anymore

It's just a pop culture slurry

[astral steeple]

it shifting to a "everything game" is its identity

from the beginning it was never only a BR

that was just a mode within the ecosystem

this has been their goal since 2017

[sour hill]

They should put a hot topic in fortnite. You could go and buy virtual funko pops

[dire gate]

That is my exact concern

[unreal idol]

Yeah but like

[dire gate]

"everything game" as an identity

[unreal idol]

Peter Griffin and Goku? What the fuck?

[astral steeple]

yeah sure why not

[random steppe]

Here is a question, if I make a game within fortnite, who owns the rights to that game?
if it gets big and I want to make a sequel outside of Fortnite, is Epic that has the rights to it for example?

[astral steeple]

its hilarious

[unreal idol]

I could understand something like a Jump game that combined sister franchises

Or Smash

[gaunt marten]

Why would you want to make games out of Fortnite

[unreal idol]

But Fortnite is just... extremely strange

Wait I thought Fortnite was a shooter

What's this about making games in it

[astral steeple]

so essentially theyre working towards having it, to where you can take a game you made within fortnite, and transfer it to being its own game if you want to

you would still fully own the rights to all your assets

it would be able to be taken straight from fortnite to UE5 if you want to

[random steppe]

"They are working towards" seems very unclear to me

I should read the ToS for that sutff

[astral steeple]

this is from stuff theyve mentioned in interviews

[random steppe]

Because that was the big kerfuffle with DOTA 2 and Blizzard

[astral steeple]

the transfering games thing hasnt been implemented yet

theyre working on untangling fortnite from unreal engine to where UE6 is literally UEFN

fortnite will essentially just be a bundle of code

[random steppe]

Defense of the Ancients was originally a custom Warcraft 3 map.
Nowdays most games that allow custom maps, own the rights to everything you do within there, to prevent another DOTA situation.

[astral steeple]

it has shooter games within it yes

its a platform of games

[dire gate]

Autochess be like:

[unreal idol]

I feel like I understand less and less of this game every few months

[random steppe]

I'm not talking about doing it mechanically, I'm speaking of who owns the legal rights to it.
Of course you wouldn't own the assets, but if you wanted to remake the assets yourself and remake the game in unity, I wonder if Epic would own the name of your game.

[astral steeple]

any asset you made yourself you'd own yeah

[dire gate]

I'm pretty sure Autochess is the exact case where they could recreate the whole game with different assets and release it

Since it was originally a DOTA2 custom mode

[astral steeple]

gildedguy as well too lol

[visual barn]

Turn out I am still good at the game eve after half a decade not playing.

Pagan's outposts are going to be a breeze, i'm going to try not to use guns just to see if I can

[unreal idol]

I have no idea who or what that is

[astral steeple]

super iconic animator

[dire gate]

I think the more you show PK the more PK will feel weird about the game

[unreal idol]

What like a real person?

[astral steeple]

the character itself is like pretty much him

[unreal idol]

I think my biggest problem with Fortnite is Disney had brain worms and shoved in canon lore that set up Rise of Skywalker

[astral steeple]

oh yeah lol

[unreal idol]

Which is the biggest galaxy brain case of idiocy I've seen

[astral steeple]

that message from palpatine that you could only hear if you watched that event

was super sick

[dire gate]

Oh the duality of the humanity

[unreal idol]

It was horrible

Like, it not being in Fortnite wouldn't have affected the awfulness of the film, but I literally cannot fathom why they'd do that

[astral steeple]

it was part of their whole connecting everything goal

they did the same with DC Comics and Marvel

having their own comic series that were canon to to marvel and dc respectively

[dire gate]

"More zoomers will like our franchise if we do this"

[unreal idol]

That's awful wtf

Like what if you are a DC or Marvel fan that doesn't like Fortnite

[astral steeple]

i mean the comics themselves mainly focused on like the lore of the game

well

granted Wolverine had hooked up with a fortnite character in one of them

[dire gate]

"Don't worry, we'll gain more young fans if we do this"

[unreal idol]

I'm stunned speechless

[fickle garnet]

I bought Cyberpunk: Phantom Liberty

[dire gate]

nice

[random steppe]

To be honest, I would have been mad if the movie was good, but since it was a massive trainwreck it kind of added to how funny the whole thing was.

[astral steeple]

idk if i can post the page after that lol

like its not nsfw at all but still kinda toeing the line

[dire gate]

It is interesting to see all those while living in a place where fortnite is barely even a thing

[random steppe]

And also, on the other hand, if you are a kid I assume it must be pretty sick.
And i'm not gonna be the adult that goes "but these kids with their videogames"
Star Wars is not that deep or important.
If a bunch of kids are having fun with it that's good.

I'm not debating my cousin kids out of liking Rise of the Skywalker

That sounds like a bad time for everyone involved

[fickle garnet]

Ive been wanting to play Evil West so this is great

[random steppe]

I will still silently judge Capitain Mario over it, but ironically.

[astral steeple]

its like when people got annoyed with people liking the prequels a long time ago lol

despite them not being what they grew up on

[unreal idol]

I'm just stunned because like

There's no cohesion

[astral steeple]

like sure theyre different, but they arent really "bad" at all

[unreal idol]

As an outsider looking in, it feels very hollow and soulless

Oh I can rant for hours about how bad the prequels are

It's just the sequels are worse

[astral steeple]

i prefer the prequels way more than the originally trilogy

with padme being like one of my all time favorite fictional characters ever

[random steppe]

Yeah same as Smash, you want to see Pikachu beat up Sephiroth? Why the hell not

[astral steeple]

i mean

[unreal idol]

I literally have no idea what I am looking at

[astral steeple]

Frieza from Dragon ball next to a Lambo Hurican STO

[unreal idol]

Okay. Why?

I don't get it

[astral steeple]

why not

[random steppe]

It does look like a bad photoshop

[dire gate]

As I said, I think the more you show the more PK will feel weird about the game

[astral steeple]

its like super surreal to even see lol

[unreal idol]

I thought we were talking about Fortnite

[astral steeple]

that is fortnite lol

[unreal idol]

???????

[astral steeple]

thats a real in game shot lol

[quiet swift]

The important pat is that outside of active fortnite players... people just don't care if it's surreal or not

[unreal idol]

I thought fortnite was a shooter

I'm so confused

I have work to do

[astral steeple]

BR is a mode/game within the ecosystem

[random steppe]

Well it's the main game mode.

[static bluff]

Please consider not using acronyms when explaining new concepts to people.

[random steppe]

people want to sell it as a "do whatever" and while it has aspirations to get there, so far it's still mostly a BR game

Battle Royale

[static bluff]

Ah, thank you

[astral steeple]

you can straight up play Rock Band and Lego minecraft fortnite in the game as well lol

[quiet swift]

It is. There's other game modes/maps that can be created by players or Epic themselves to allow for different 'games'.
On the map, you can find vehicles to get around faster. A recent update (i think) implenented real cars rather than generic ones. And frieza is just a collab

[young creek]

I wonder if they managed to make Frieza look short

[astral steeple]

the newer update added it to where cars are now a cosmetic type

so when you get in a certain vehicle it changes to whatever car you have equipped

so now the car you drive can be uniquely yours

instead of just generic sports car 3, etc lol

theyre gonna slowly transfer over other Rocket League vehicles as well to be usable

and then any cars you unlock within the game itself become usable in rocket league and rocket racing

[quiet swift]

Why couldn't all that have been on one line?

[dire gate]

Today's video is sponsored by Fortnite! Thank you Epic for sponsoring our video

[gaunt marten]

Chill

[astral steeple]

That's just how I type lol

[static bluff]

Tchernobog doesn't bully AriannaThePrincess13 for 10 minutes challenge (impossible)

[astral steeple]

lol

[random steppe]

At any rate, yeah, probably not gonna play it anytime soon, but it's interesting.
My cousin kids love it and it's interesting to talk about it with them.

It's an interesting weird thing and they have a bunch of fun in it with their friends.

[sour hill]

God I hate when children have fun

[static bluff]

I heard about the lego thing and that sounded really fun but I haven't downloaded the update to get it

[sour hill]

They should be doing homework

[random steppe]

Really not interested in BRs currently and the secondary stuff sounds like a pain to get in

[astral steeple]

With the live event a few weeks ago they had kinda teased a full on snowboarding and basketball game

And fall guys will likely be implemented within fort as well in the next year or so

Based on the event and with stuff that's been leaked

[young creek]

The lego thing kinda sucks its just worse minecraft

and I can barely get into real minecraft so I had no fun

[random steppe]

And the layer of Fortnite as the platform does mean that if you aren't interested in Fortnite itself, you have to deal with it to get to the stuff you care about which isn't a positive.

[static bluff]

lol oh, damn. guess I ddin't miss anything then

[astral steeple]

Well yeah its gonna get more stuff as time goes on

It only just released a few weeks ago

And epic is on their vacation

It has a hell of a lot of content in the first update alone

[random steppe]

My 2 cents, is that, if you aren't a fortnite player even only occasionally, you probably aren't really installing it for the other stuff.
It has been the case for every "custom maps" game in history, and they might prove me wrong, but I'll have to see it.

That said it's still cool that Fortnite players have more stuff to do.
I just don't buy the "you can do everything" because I've seen it parroted 100 times and it always failed to garner more than the people that were already playing the game anyway.

But we'll see

[gaunt marten]

That's usually the case

This sort of feature keeps people playing the game for longer more than it draws new people in

[random steppe]

Yeah and that's fair

[sour hill]

I think gmod is the exception, if you count that

[dire gate]

And that was indeed my initial point

[gaunt marten]

The exception is games that are sold from the outset as sandboxes

[sour hill]

Lotta people who have cs source just for the assets

[astral steeple]

With this it isn't only custom maps/games

Its full on games by dev teams as well

Rocket racing by psyonix, festival by harmonix, lego fortnite by lego, etc

Over time more and more studios will jump on board and start releasing full on games too

They also have on the roadmap to where you'll be able to make full on AAA games and seamless worlds

[random steppe]

Yeah that's the pitch, I just don't think it'll work out as the marketing team is selling it as

I feel that rather than more people jumping on board, the hype will die out, most people will still just play the BR and that's it

[young creek]

it just has to be good and people will play it

Look at Hearthstone

they made an entirely new game mode (battlegrounds) that was (and might still be) more popular than the main game mode

[dire gate]

Well the auto battler genre is quite awkward

[random steppe]

Yes true, but it's not a separate studios that came in and released a separate mode in Heartstone

[dire gate]

The two most successful ones beside the original Autochess were TFT and Battleground

[young creek]

Thats true but no one will really care about who made it as long as its good

[dire gate]

Both additional game modes of existing games

[gaunt marten]

Battlegrounds is so good

[random steppe]

Thing is, if you make a game within Fortnite, your max number of players is the people in Fortnite
If you game a game not in Fortnite your max number of players is higher.

The question is if being in fortnite is beneficial or not and I'd argue that for big gaming companies it will probably not be.

[gaunt marten]

Almost as good as Slay the Spire

[dire gate]

"Will you install DOTA2 to play Autochess, or install League to play TFT, or install Hearthstone to play BG?"

[random steppe]

Being in Fortnite might help you if you are really small depending how their discoverability is.

[astral steeple]

I mean at most all you should need in your game right now is 100 players or less

And they'll likely try getting that increased to make seamless worlds possible

Since they use AWS for their servers

[dire gate]

"If you can make Forza Horizon you don't have to make Fortnite Horizon"

[astral steeple]

Also yeah games are easily able to be found in the menu

Newly released games within it have been able to reach a few hundred thousand players pretty quickly in some cases

[random steppe]

Yeah, I just don't think it's a thing that will work, because it never worked, and I am not just going to believe a marketing department just because they are telling me.

If they can make it work more power to them.

[thorny loom]

https://fxtwitter.com/_dyllie_/status/1739760173684568453?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

[wind stump]

I am not just going to believe a marketing department just because they are telling me.
"Why would someone go on the internet and tell lies?"

[random steppe]

Well might not be lies

It's just their intention spun in a very positive way

But they are paid to tell me it'll work that way, their spin doesn't count

[astral steeple]

A somewhat newer red vs blue deathmatch game has like 79k people playing right now

[dire gate]

Something like
"We will try to make it happen eventually"

[wind stump]

Then on the next layer down you have """leakers""" oh so conveniently being right 100% of the time anbd never seeing any retrubution from Epic

[astral steeple]

An uwu gun game where it plays the uwu sound every time you get an Elim was also able to get pretty high player counts

A few only up games as well

[random steppe]

Yeah, seems in line with a custom maps game style

Which is good, to be clear, i think Epic is smart with leveraging the fact that they own a massively successful game and a game engine.
I am just skeptical that it'll become a real platform for games where developers consistently release new games to instead of doing it on steam.

My bet is that, it will maybe happen a handful of times if Epic comes with a big truck of cash to some devs doorsteps but organically probably never.
I'll reassess in a year if my instinct was off on it.

What I'm curious if we'll see simultaenous releases outside and in Fortnite.
That'd be a lot more realistic.

[astral steeple]

when they do end up putting rocket league and fall guys both within the ecosystem its gonna be super wild lol

theyll likely bring on a dev team to make the basketball game, and snowboarding game

and different games as time goes on

[random steppe]

Completely unrelated to this, I've been making my way through The Case of the Golden Idol and while I'm late to the party, this game released in 2022, fuck man it's so great

[visual hill]

"open source" isn't really correct here, it's more "source available"… and leaked source at that

you don't have any rights to use the source for any purpose

[random steppe]

This is the kind of game I rant about when I say I can't enjoy Ace Attorney games because they aren't really deduction games.

I wish some big devs took the formula and made a big shot game with it

[visual hill]

someone just gifted me Death Stranding: Director's Cut, so I'll try to find some time to play it

(I had the standard edition on EGS already, but this is on Steam too)

[wind stump]

HAMMER DOWN!

[random steppe]

Death Stranding is pretty great, the start is a bit slow tho

It's worth sticking with it at least

[visual barn]

Still such a beautiful place

[thorny loom]

https://youtube.com/shorts/TL7dp_8UyIo?si=-llrir12q8ZwG_bp

[visual hill]

remember to claim yo EGS game

[astral steeple]

damn lol

just found a interview from yesterday from the head of harmonix explaining a lot of that whole "everything game" discussion from earlier a lot better than i can

way after the discussion already ended

[gaunt marten]

very good game

Bit overbearing but fun for a while

Perfect for free stuff

[wind stump]

hehehe
flying in a mini Death Star as Ep III Anakin

[astral steeple]

i need to play the skywalker saga more

i think im on like ep 5 right now

[static bluff]

lol how have I not seen this one yet. His Todd Howard impressions "People went to the moon and they weren't bored" was hilarious

i watched this dudes stream all the time, man. i love that guy

dude's name is Thor. how fkn cool is that

[wind stump]

HE SAID THE THING

[sour hill]

Wtf they speak in Lego games now?

[wind stump]

They have been for a while if I recall

you can turn it off if you want though

[arctic fern]

they use movie clips in some games

[astral steeple]

afaik a lot of it is re-recording dialogue

at least for skywalker saga

with the mumble cheat being already available

[wind stump]

money money money

[sage raptor]

my surf_kitsune pb

[thorny loom]

I see you also bought it

It was $10 so i figured i get it also

[wind stump]

had it for a while, got back into it lately

[astral steeple]

i think i had bought skywalker saga back when it first came out

the deluxe edition or w/e

[wind stump]

hahaha, Grevious looks sol awkward on the GODNK

You know who we should make playable in Skywalker Saga?
PREGNANT PADME

[astral steeple]

i mean yeah

thats like a huge part of the prequels

so it makes sense to include that version of her lol

[sour hill]

Trixie

[gaunt marten]

Padme but she's Pregnant with Trixie

[sour hill]

Star Wars if it was epic:

[gaunt marten]

(Trixie is also pregnant)

[astral steeple]

star wars is epic though lol

has one of the best characters in all of fiction

[mossy flume]

[astral steeple]

was referring to Padme lol

[sour hill]

Yeah, Padme (Pregnant [Trixie])

[river veldt]

they have Klaud in Skywalker Saga

my favourite background character of all time

[mossy flume]

Padme pregnant with Trixie

[gaunt marten]

Who?

[astral steeple]

why the squint emoji 🤨

[river veldt]

he was a mechanic for the Resistance in Rise of Skywalker

[gaunt marten]

Oh that's the uncle of the naked twin aliens from Men in Black

[river veldt]

ive never seen Men in Black

when will Wookieepedia move to an independent website

i tire of fandom

[gaunt marten]

Use breezewiki for now

[river veldt]

his species is called Trotadome

i believe there was one in Mandalorian season 3

[gaunt marten]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7ts7-FCEAEk7ML?format=jpg&name=small

I'm talking about those guys

[minor gorge]

Goofy and adorable in their own way, somehow.

[river veldt]

RoS had a lot of good new aliens

trotadomes and whatever Babu Frik is are the highlights for me

Anzellan

[wind stump]

HE! SAID! THE! THING!

why are you sobbing cap
he really does have the high ground

[sour hill]

It's so true

[gaunt marten]

Say the line, Bart!

[river veldt]

im sobbing because of the ladder it's so funny

hc is there a Yoda v Sidious bossfight

[wind stump]

yes!

[astral steeple]

https://mynintendonews.com/2023/12/27/masahiro-sakurai-says-hes-still-creating-games-for-the-time-being/

[mossy flume]

Hopefully he got the rest he so badly needed.

Dude literally almost kills himself on every Smash game he makes.

[green fulcrum]

I think Smash Ultimate was supposed to be his final Smash game.

(...Pun unintended, lol.)

[mossy flume]

Every Smash game was supposed to be his last game.

The first one was supposed to be a one-off

Melee was the "okay I did a sequel but don't intend to do another one" thing

Then Nintendo kinda bullied him into doing Brawl

Yeah, I just double-checked. Brawl was announced before Sakurai was even approached to direct it, so its existence was complete news to him.

After Nintendo announced Brawl they met with him and basically told him to direct it. Didn't really ask.
The condition being that if he didn't accept then Melee would just get ported instead.

[astral steeple]

ngl im still somewhat annoyed theyre no longer doing dlc fighters for ultimate

so much missed potential with game characters lol

[mossy flume]

They went... so much farther with the characters in ultimate than they needed to.

It makes sense that Sakurai was hospitalized for being overworked.

If he does another Smash game there's just no way they'll have the same roster.

[astral steeple]

no master chief

no jonesy

no doom slayer

etc

[mossy flume]

"Jonsey"?

[astral steeple]

yes

[mossy flume]

Who's that?

[gaunt marten]

Woody from Toy Story, Evil Madeline from Celeste, Chucky from Child's Play and former president JFK duke it out in the new smash bros

[mossy flume]

Well the amount of work involved in adding a new character into smassh is ridiculous

[astral steeple]

this is jonesy

[mossy flume]

Oh, Fortnite trailer guy

[astral steeple]

yeah like the main character

[mossy flume]

Glad they didn't put him in

[astral steeple]

would have at least been better than steve

[slim thorn]

Jonesy the cat from Alien?

[mossy flume]

Yeah, Minecraft guy being in the game is very much a ????????? thing

Just what the fuck

[astral steeple]

similar mechanic but would have played way differently than steve

[mossy flume]

It annoys me that they took in non-Nintendo characters in the first place

[astral steeple]

its ironic too

theyre fine with letting other console's characters onto their game, but refuse to let other companies use their characters, unless its locked to only the switch

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/cyberpunkgame/status/1740071294752989243?

[gaunt marten]

Eww

The worst form of paid cosmetics

[astral steeple]

like if they were less stubborn it'd be way better

[mossy flume]

There's a good amount of history about that, actually

Remember when Nintendo nearly lost the trademark to their own name because the term "Nintendo" was in danger of becoming a generic term which meant "video game" and not a specific video game platform or company? (This was the 90s)

[gaunt marten]

I loved how hard Nintendo railed on it

[mossy flume]

They had a legal fight over it in the US

And they very nearly lost

[gaunt marten]

They did an ad campaign and everything

[mossy flume]

Yeah, because they were TOLD TO

[astral steeple]

still super dumb overall

like just let me run around with a gun on xbox/playstation/etc as link, mario, and samus dammit lol

[mossy flume]

The US legal system literally told them "either defend your property harder or you'll lose it"

So they did

For the rest of time

This is why Nintendo is so DMCA happy

And this is why they're so defensive about their IP and why their IP will never apear on other consoles.

Because our copyright system told them that if they don't do that then they'll lose the rights to their own IP. It was a bad ruling and it's a bad overcorrection and nothing will ever change it.

[mossy flume]

There's also a lot of bitter business history with Sony that guarantees that Nintendo will never collaborate with them ever again, at least not like that.

[fresh bane]

That's not fully the reason why, it didn't just happen out of a single case, they've always been like that

[mossy flume]

And Microsoft is a western company and nobody cares about Xbox in Japan

[mossy flume]

It's not the whole story, no, but it gets the point across.

There's a lot of history which led to Nintendo's behavior

[astral steeple]

that would have nothing to do with them collaborating with sony/microsoft

that would be a thing with epic lol

[fresh bane]

It's not just that it's not the whole story it's that they didn't become the way they are because of this one incident, they've always been that way and it's specifically true for any Japanese company really

Because fair use practically is non existant in Japan

[mossy flume]

Correct

[slim thorn]

AFAIK the entire concept of "fair use" was always a US-specific legal thing

[fresh bane]

also, I don't really play Smash and never have, but I'm still disappointed in the way they decided to finally add Dante through a Mii instead of an actual character like they did with Bayo
though I understand the complexity of including Dante in a game like that

probably would've preferred no attempt at all personally

[fresh bane]

It definitely comes up more often in any platforms based on the US or when people in the US get in trouble with this specific type of thing

The most recent case I can remember that Joey/The Anime Man reported on a couple years ago now was the case of this movie reviewer that used still frames from movies in his videos and got arrested for it

[slim thorn]

no I don't mean the US likes it the most, I mean it specifically originates in and is based on United States law, and bringing it up outside the US is a basic category error like a Canadian saying they'll "plead the fifth"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_use

was enshrined in statutory law when the U.S. Congress passed the Copyright Act of 1976. The U.S. Supreme Court has issued several major decisions clarifying and reaffirming the fair use doctrine since the 1980s, the most recent being in the 2021 decision Google LLC v. Oracle America, Inc.

ok there's also some fuzzy "common law" stuff that'd apply to UK and maybe a few other places, but mostly US

[fresh bane]

I don't want to say it doesn't exist anywhere else other than the US because I really have no clue about law like that to say but yes the concept that is talked about the most when ''fair use'' enters a conversation I think is mostly a US thing

[slim thorn]

yeah, certainly the concept of "fair use" as an affirmative defense of copyright infringment "for purposes such as criticism, comment, news reporting, teaching [..], scholarship, or research" is a US law

I'm sure some other jurisdictions have an analogue somewhere but with a different list of criteria or not in affirmative defense form or whatever

[thorny loom]

It really should be updated

I believe 2024 their suppose to take submissions for stuff to be added or updated

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/6AIh29g9zOs?si=mQOdkTgpRcvLrb9S

[slim thorn]

unfortunately I know nothing about Japanese law

[thorny loom]

My knowledge of it comes from limited understanding of how hololive does things

[fresh bane]

But this is why I say that even though it's not incorrect to mention that specific case that Nintendo got tied up with, it's not the entire reason for Nintendo being the way they are, the reality is that that's just how Japan works and Nintendo, probably realizing the value of their IPs even back in the 90s, just became extremely over protective

really companies like Sega being so open and embracing fan created content even endorsing it is an extremely rare outlier for Japan

[thorny loom]

Basically they have to get permission to play things from companies and they cant really bad mouth the game

Its Part of the reason you so rarely see nintendo stuff being done by hololive vtubers

[slim thorn]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_dealing oh so this is how the UK does it

[fresh bane]

Well Nintendo has had a history of going against let's players and streamers and striking down or deleting streams and videos really to their hearts desire, so they have the right to do that if they want to and I want to say maybe every other Japanese company could if they wanted to

I still remember when Age of Calamity released and people streamed it day one and Nintendo was striking down every single one because it had released earlier on some regions or something

But yes that's why for example Hololive streamers pretty much require direct permission to stream a game and can't just do what they want especially if it's a Japanese game

[slim thorn]

The UK was the only Member State of the European Union that did not have a private copy exception [...] Consequently, now commonplace activities such as format shifting (saving one's music contained in their CDs on their MP3 players or on their smartphones) are illegal, but in practice the Government does not enforce this.

lol, lmao even

[fresh bane]

Because, technically, it's copyright infringement

[fresh bane]

CDs? MP3 players? What is this, the stone age?

[slim thorn]

nah, Dr Stone had to settle for a record player

[thorny loom]

https://youtu.be/MYawahBTJaI?si=uaoC6BqQ1vkbdTu5

[fresh bane]

I don't know if this is one of those smaller articles on Wikipedia where there's not the whole full information or if the lack of other countries in that list means they have no direct equivalent to this fair dealing law

[slim thorn]

it's probably focused on that specific term

very few of these terms are universal after all, and a worldwide list of comparisons would quickly become its own tree of articles

[gaunt marten]

The only Robin Hood game I played was Robin Hood: Defender of the Crown

It was mediocre but very creative

[fresh bane]

I found some stuff about it on my country but I'm too lazy to skim through these to find out how it works here

[slim thorn]

oh nice, I found a formal comparisons of worldwide copyright systems that has an extremely direct and satisfying answer to this question

Do the doctrines of ‘fair use’ or ‘fair dealing’ exist?

While there is no general doctrine of ‘fair use’ in Japan, there are some equivalent exemptions provided by the Copyright Act, such as:
• quoting from and exploiting a work already made public fairly
and to the extent justified by the purpose of the quotations;
• private use, to a limited extent;
• reproduction in libraries;
• reproduction in school textbooks,schools and other educational
institutions;
• use for those with disabilities; and
• reproduction for judicial proceedings.

[visual hill]

I'm surprised how they manage to have a roster this large and not have balance be completely broken

[slim thorn]

I'd highlight the lack of "criticism, comment, news reporting" equivalents from the US fair use list

presumably that bit about "quotations" helps with those purposes, but likely not to the extent of a video review, much less a let's play

[visual hill]

France doesn't have fair use, but it has "droit de citation" ("citing rights") that applies specifically to press

[slim thorn]

sadly this report does not include Uruguay

[mossy flume]

Yeah, it’s genuinely insane.

That’s a hellish nightmare

I don’t know how they did it

[fresh bane]

Copyright protection is not uniform worldwide; there are two major protection systems with different perspectives and operations.

On the one hand, the United States, England and the Common Law countries follow the Copyright system, originally protecting the right of reproduction or copy, in order to stimulate the production of new works for the benefit of the general interest of society.

On the other hand, the countries belonging to continental Europe and Latin America have adopted the Author's Rights or Authoralist system, whose origin was the recognition of the right based on the personality of the author, which seeks to benefit the creator's efforts.
It uses a closed system, the only exceptions and limitations allowed will be those expressly listed in the law. These are of restrictive interpretation (new exceptions and limitations cannot be interpreted by analogy).

So in simple terms no fair use, no

https://www.impo.com.uy/derechodeautor/
this site has more info but the sections describing what is allowed and not seen as ''illicit reproduction'' and what is illegal are too long to paste here

[hushed onyx]

Victor Hugo was a mistake

(He played a massive role in spreading the droit d'author concept internationally with the Berne Convention)

[river veldt]

there have been third party characters since 2008

[thorny loom]

https://fxtwitter.com/gtavi_countdown/status/1739820607552798967?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Ngl. It would have been kinda cool to be able to play as lamar. ( he was originally supposed to be the 4th playable character in single player before being scrapped)

[river veldt]

is that why there's a 4th greyed out slice of pizza on the character select wheel

[thorny loom]

They eventually used that as the gta online spot but probably yes

[river veldt]

OH

i didn't know that

[visual hill]

these are called pie/radial menus, not pizza menus

[thorny loom]

Pizza is tastier

[visual hill]

thank you TF2

[fresh bane]

Ye

is that due to too many mods or something?

that'd be my guess, I've had L4D2 crash due to having too many mods a lot

[thorny loom]

https://store.steampowered.com/sale/BestOf2023

[gaunt marten]

Gross revenue? Gross

[thorny loom]

Love how blops 3 is still in bronze despite its age

Shows how much people love the zombies mode for it

[visual hill]

I'm using ColorHUD but I don't recall seeing this before

[fresh bane]

weird

I wonder which hud I have installed, I haven't opened up TF2 in a hot minute I might check it out later

I know I have a custom hud installed but there's hundreds of different ones for tf2

[uneven epoch]

(fire emblem three houses, spoilered for whenever ixrec gets to it)

plants my face into a pillow and SCREAMS

no matter how fuckin many times i play this game this line kills me every damn time

[hasty patio]

Poor bringi.

[chilly mural]

I would’ve enjoyed a melee port

[chilly mural]

That’s me and @wise frigate

There is a ponyville zombies custom map and pinkie pie cupcakes map that is made with a lotta sovl

https://youtu.be/gIKmqt5ap20?si=kbCyHMtLxdmX5hjZ

[wise frigate]

wanna play bo3?

[slim thorn]

I came so close to clicking on that

[river veldt]

whoa i wasn't expecting Firefly to he in Arkham Knight lol

[rare garden]

Oh my god I got anno 1800 yesterday and Im already through 46% of the campaign

[green fulcrum]

Does that mean it's short, or that you're so invested you just blazed through it?

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/aqN-C5pWyYQ?si=znaP5pvuu7cWB27M
Calinou if you read this this might be interesting for ya

[dire gate]

I see there was a fun conversation like 4 houra ago

[slim thorn]

I still have two of the Thief games on my "I bought this but haven't felt like playing it yet" list

assuming I will play them, should I avoid watching this?

[dire gate]

Hilarious how Nintendo released Zelda, Pikmin and Mario

Yet they had to admit the most downloaded game of this year on Switch was none other than Suika game

[fresh bane]

Maybe?
The way I think about it is if I'm not going to immediately start playing a game this week and I'm planning to play it later down the line or something, I might as well just watch a video about it if I'm interested in it because otherwise I'm probably never going to do either

[slim thorn]

sure, though I usually get around to these things eventually

[sour hill]

Thief 2 is fun

You steal stuff

[dire gate]

"Theif but you don't steal" would be a funny but terrible game

[rare garden]

Its a bit short... but MAN i read up on the objs and the prepwork needed to get the industry running inorder to continue the quest is ALOT

[fresh bane]

Well after seeing it I can confidently say, no you don't need to wait unless you're planning to play the reboot specifically

and even then the video is mostly just the development history and not really going in depth analyzing the game itself

[chilly mural]

ye sure

[mossy flume]

https://xkcd.com/2873/

xkcd: Supersymmetry

High-speed collisions at the Baby Park track may support the hypothesis that Daisy is her own evil twin, a theory first suggested by Nintendo in the game Majorana's Mask.

[harsh kestrel]

You just look at the PS Plus games for next month, and it's just like

[craggy vine]

What game is it?

[mossy flume]

A Plague Tale: Requiem
Evil West
Nobody Saves The World

I hear A Plague Tale is very good, actually

[random steppe]

Evil west seems like a ton of fun as well

[dire gate]

We all know that superstrings are actually just spaghetti

[craggy vine]

fuck rdr 2 and rockstar games

failed for this guy escaping, because he got on horse while I was sniping

[mossy flume]

https://www.ign.com/articles/switch-2-mario-what-to-expect-from-nintendo-2024

I concur with IGN’s assessments here

[craggy vine]

Glad I didn't decide with getting a nintendo switch honestly. End of life of consoles is always kinda terrible.

Just goes for any console, it just reaches a date where you get no more games for it

[rare garden]

Just spent a WHILE learning how to trade route in Anno 1800

[quiet swift]

I ship it

[visual hill]

I've heard a bunch about Thief 2014, it's not a bad game technically but was stripped from most of its depth... which only really makes it interesting for casual players

it also suffered the comparison with Dishonored

[sour hill]

Dishonored is sick

[teal cliff]

I like Dishonored 2.

[sour hill]

I just wish it had dark/light enemy visibility like thief 2 does, but it makes up for it by having a bunch of other mechanics

[wind stump]

ZE FLAMENWERFER
IT WERFS FLAMEN

[quiet swift]

[sour hill]

:sweetiebelleisonfire:

[dire gate]

[dire gate]

It's always thrilling to play the last part of AA3

I swear I've done this part at least 5 times

[rare garden]

fiiiiiive miiiinutes leeeeft (epic games thing0

free epic game

[quiet swift]

Ah, yep. Design/visuals made it look like it was a mobile game... and yep. First released on app stores in 2018

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/epicgames/status/1740406101370196463?

[gaunt marten]

Cat Quest 1 is fun but shallow

[bronze abyss]

random fun fact:tekken 8 uses same combat hit sound effects as bakugan battle brawlers:defenders of core which is a old wii/360/psp arena fighter

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCnw5zxmMxs

[teal cliff]

Despite the fact that Fire Emblem Engage is not my favourite Fire Emblem I will respect it for making people's sexual orientation their passive ability

[sour hill]

"The Gentlebros"

[river veldt]

damn so to actually fight Riddler i need to solve all his riddles

[thorny loom]

Yeah.

Easily the most tedious quest of the game

Would recommend you do it last

[quiet swift]

https://clips.twitch.tv/EvilHandsomeGorillaLeeroyJenkins-M4ajXVpX65_XWG8A
Fiancée's teammate used a weapon to attack an enemy, also hit their own teammate (the shark). For some reason, only the shark got bugged and got stuck in the map and unable to move

And they kept using the crying cat emoji 😭 since they weren't using voice chat

[thorny loom]

Is that your fiances vtuber

[quiet swift]

Yus. It's a free one she found online though

[thorny loom]

Oh. Its still cute

[quiet swift]

It is!

I kinda wanna commission one but those are $$$ even for basic ones

[thorny loom]

Yeah its expensive

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKYOspIJiWE

[quiet swift]

https://www.twitch.tv/jeenz_acker/clip/AmazingClearMelonRitzMitz-3_LxH8XHbh4q9Y0F she used to use this one with... vseeface software? But a recent update made it so it doesn't work with either webcam she uses anymore so she switched program

(in that clip, she pressed the wrong button and started a dance emote)

[wind stump]

https://youtu.be/rt25DfiTKqc

[fresh bane]

ahhhh damn it, now I want to play more Testament

this actually feels pretty good

[strong pebble]

Very good game 🐈🐈

[strong pebble]

I love this game!!! 🌟🌟🌟

[fresh bane]

man Testament's gameplay clicked with me so quickly I'm surprised how good this character feels

I quickly realized my favourite thing is when I get a knockdown or during neutral I think ''this mf is going to jump'' and charging up a grave reaper and being right every time

[bitter stream]

that does look satisfying Nire hahah

[strong pebble]

Is this Guilty Gear Strive??

[little badger]

https://fxtwitter.com/iamchrisjudge/status/1740493858419749350?

[river veldt]

gonna try out Dark Souls again, any tips or anything i should know

[mossy flume]

Don't die

[uneven epoch]

time for battle of eagle and lion in this fe3h playthrough i love this moment in game its so good. so so good. the thematic resonance. the foreshadowing. the way march music in cutscene perfectly flows into top 3 kickass themes of the entire game. crops watered day brightened mental capacity restored

[bitter stream]

Do you mind slight mechanical spoilers?

[river veldt]

no go ahead :)

[bitter stream]

okay! 1. Depending on how much you've used up your Equip Load, your ability to roll is affected. I forget the exact numbers but it is very noticable the difference between fast roll ( low equip load) medium roll and slow roll ( when you use up most of your equip load)

2. Some stats don't do as much for your character as others do, but you can view what the stat effects in the menu when you upgrade them with souls. Health, Stamina and either STR/DEX depending on what weapons you use are typical safe bets, but there are other combinations for other weapon/play styles.

3.Death is just the end of a learning experience, feel free to die lots to learn boss patterns, enemy patterns, etc.

[fresh bane]

Depends on which one

[river veldt]

the first one

[bitter stream]

ah, with the fast roll vs slow roll, you get more invicibility frames with better rolls, but can probably take less hits as you have less armour on

[fresh bane]

There's a lot to explain about the first one

[gaunt marten]

Every situation has a solution that makes it a lot easier. When you get frustrated, do something else

[fresh bane]

Biggest recommendation I can probably give is to have a clear idea of what type of character you want to go for so you don't waste precious cash on useless stats or weapons/armor

[river veldt]

ok cool

[gaunt marten]

If you ever feel stuck you can ask me for advice

[fresh bane]

I'm also going to recommend getting comfortable dodging more than blocking, blocking isn't useless, but dodging and having mobility is far more recommended so it's worth getting used to that

[river veldt]

[fresh bane]

Armor is usually not that useful as well because of that same reason but that depends on the type of character you want to go for, again it's good to have an idea of whether you want to be big strong man agile man glass cannon etc

So I'd mostly recommend having a good idea of which stats are the most important for the type of character you want and getting comfortable with a weapon that aligns with that character type and upgrading that instead of wasting time on armors and shields, but if you want you can go for armors and shields it's just that dodging is worth getting used to

[visual hill]

dodging is meta in Dark Souls, and pretty much any soulslike

[random steppe]

If you can't getting the timing right, doing a mix or both is very viable keep in mind

[visual hill]

I largely associate the genre with "attack once, roll once to the side, rinse and repeat"

[fresh bane]

Never level up Resistance and don't go into the graveyard

[random steppe]

Blocking for new players isn't bad, it takes away the pressure of having to time things right in the heat of the moment

[gaunt marten]

I usually do sword and board. It's fun

[random steppe]

Dodging becomes a lot better only in NG+ and later IMO

[river veldt]

what's in the graveyard

[fresh bane]

Bad times

[random steppe]

You'll notice, don't worry, I mean you can go there at worse you die, just know there are other directions to go

[fresh bane]

Extremely common late game place that new players go into to die

[river veldt]

is Dark Souls open linear or a mix

[random steppe]

It's relatively open but it becomes more linear late game

[fresh bane]

It's pretty open in the sense that there's all these different areas and things to do but you can do them in any order you want

[river veldt]

i see

[random steppe]

Another good tip is to find a weapon you feel comfortable with and stick with it...some are harder than others to use, but especially anything that isn't a dagger that you feel very comfortable with using is going to serve you well for a large chunk of the game assuming you keep upgrading.

[river veldt]

does Dark Souls 1 have the funny dog

[river veldt]

noted

[random steppe]

Sif is the funny dog?

The one with the sword?

If so, yes

[river veldt]

yes

what about the funny onion guy

[random steppe]

There is a funny onion guy in every Dark Souls

Kinda

Wait there isn't one in 2, I'm wrong

[minor plover]

I like when he survives

[river veldt]

does everyone love the onion guy

[gaunt marten]

He's okay

[random steppe]

He's a good dude

[fresh bane]

There's more than one onion person in this game, I'll leave it at that

[thorny loom]

Because ogres are like onions

[fresh bane]

if you plan to use armor, I personally always went with extremely light gear or naked during my playthroughs, the catarina set is gonna be worth getting once you're able to get it

[random steppe]

My first playthrough I was going medium weight sword and board style, and it's what I tend to do in most souls games nowdays the first time around, except in DS3 in which I went with a int dex built on launch and it was hell.

[visual hill]

which game has the Praise the sun!! guy?

[random steppe]

Dark Souls 1

[visual hill]

ah, I guess this is why Cap chose it then

[thorny loom]

Theres a shrine to him in 2

Hes basically a meme character

After 1 anyway

[fresh bane]

last ds1 playthrough I did was a full on dex character because I had never done that before, other than that, I always mostly went with some form of light gear combination and the Claymore which is the best weapon in all of the games and the grass crest shield which there's literally no reason not to at least carry around

[river veldt]

of course acrually it's because it's the only one on Switch

[river veldt]

do you have to kill him to get the armour

[fresh bane]

Unless I'm misremembering, that's not a shrine to him it's a shrine to the covenant itself

There's one of those shrines/statues in DS1 too

[fresh bane]

No, you can purchase it

[river veldt]

[random steppe]

Big claymore fan as well, I wanted to get out of my comfort zone with DS3 tho

I learned the error of my ways and went back to that in ER

[fresh bane]

I still haven't played ER

[thorny loom]

You should avoid going to the ER because of dark souls

[fresh bane]

I watched Jerma play it and I said ''good enough for me''

[thorny loom]

Elden ring is good if you like the genre

[random steppe]

It's so goddamn good

[thorny loom]

Definitely requires multiple runs to do everything

[fresh bane]

I just haven't gotten around to/felt like I wanted to play it, since I've seen a lot about it and finished it by watching someone else play it

Been playing other stuff and haven't felt in the Souls mood

[thorny loom]

Speaking of. I should probably start kingdom hearts 1

[random steppe]

I feel like ER was the game that actually got people that usually don't like souls, to like it.

[thorny loom]

Yeah its a lot more forgiving than normal souls games

[fresh bane]

may be rookie numbers for hardcore souls players but I'm sort of in the middle of a sweaty hardcore souls guy and a casual player so this is good enough for me

[random steppe]

The harder stuff is harder but the start is a lot more gentle

[thorny loom]

I meed to play the remastered version of 1

[random steppe]

There was a big mod for 3 that was teased a while ago, I'm probably waiting for that one

[fresh bane]

I also never felt super interested or compelled in DS3 so I never played that one so I'd always just kinda replay DS1 over and over again, I feel like with Elden Ring I'd probably get the same feeling I did with BOTW/TOTK where there's just too much content that it'd cause me to not want to play

I feel like I'm probably good on that type of game for now, I still have yet to finish Cyberpunk (hell, technically I've yet to start Cyberpunk, 30+ hours and barely touched the main story)

[visual hill]

I find 100+ hours in any game to be a lot by my standards

[random steppe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj1wZE-i6GQ
My guess is that it'll still take at least a year before this is in a place in which I want to play this, but it looks so good

[visual hill]

it's almost 3 weeks of full-time work after all…

[thorny loom]

Oh really

[fresh bane]

To be fair that's the culmination of multiple playthroughs throughout years and I was in school at the time so loads of free time

[thorny loom]

Mind you this has been over 8 years

[fresh bane]

the most outrageous hours I've put into a game is TF2 over so many years

and still didn't get to 1k

Gonna need to pump those numbers up on SF6 and GGST they're still at 90 hours

[fresh bane]

There's been a bunch of those

DS3 Cinders and Convergence are other similar mods

and there's currently a big mod for DS2 that seeks out to fix a lot of the extreme downgrade that game suffered, still won't fix the awful game design that game has (in my opinion) but at least it's going to make it look pretty and it's a pretty high effort endeavor

[visual hill]

admire this empty health bar…
this happened like 3 times in a row but I finally got it after that

(also, I didn't know Zipp's wings are a boss)

[river veldt]

ah man im so bad at making names

[fresh bane]

https://vxtwitter.com/Stayd3D/status/1693390396574101783

this is the twitter of the guy, Flames of Old is what the mod is called I think

[river veldt]

Dark Souls II is pretty contentious isn't it

[fresh bane]

I think it's a really bad game so do many people but also a lot of other people swear by it being incredible and even the best souls so it's a ''play it yourself and find out yourself if you want to'' type of thing

[visual hill]

isn't it the best rated one overall?

[fresh bane]

I have no idea I don't look at game ratings

[river veldt]

wow this opening cutscene is cool

lots of witches and dragons and shit

i gleaned nothing from that

[thorny loom]

I started with ds2 so i never understood the hate

[thorny loom]

Its one of those. You have to discover the lore things

But there was a war on dragons at one point and the dragon’s lost is probably the biggest one

[river veldt]

rip dragons

pretty cool they let me keep my armour in prison

AH WHY AM I UGLY

i designed a really nice looking person why do i look like that

[quiet swift]

Can't be worse than elden ring handsome squidward

[fresh bane]

the name of the place you're in should give a clue

[river veldt]

oh ok

[fresh bane]

Also, as another general tip, if you ever get stuck on something, don't know how something works, etc, I'd fully recommend just looking it up online if you ever don't wanna go through the trouble of figuring it out if it's something you get stumped on for a while
Interacting and posting a lot about these games on forums is not only extremely common in the Fromsoft community but also a core part of the experience of these games, the whole message system is kind of a mini version of an online forum and a lot of times some messages can have some pretty useful tips, of course there's also the ''treasure ahead'' message right in front of a cliff too

[dense crypt]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/955655391453282385/1189877775444750376/image.png?ex=659fc308&is=658d4e08&hm=2f216e811202d320d98f908c437138efaf02e341ce3b856cdf802a7a3058b2c1&

[fresh bane]

and the most important tip: have fun

[dense crypt]

here's my elden ring dude since we're talking about it

dragons are cool as HECK

[fresh bane]

I'd show my DS characters but I'd have to redownload the games

[river veldt]

first death was to a giant rat who poisoned me

Jerma has betrayed me

[fresh bane]

That sounds about right

[rotund forge]

I have 1009 hours in Splatoon 3

[craggy vine]

When you can play portably, you get more inclinded to play it more I guess

[sour hill]

Bummer, cause that's most of the story you're gonna get!

[sour hill]

No

[river veldt]

does Dark Souls have a codex like the greatest game ever made Doom Eternal does

[fresh bane]

I wish, not even Elden Ring has one

The codex is gonna be every single item you pick up

All of the items will give you little pieces of information about the world

[sour hill]

Also just like, using your eyeballs to look at stuff

[fresh bane]

This game will demand your full attention if you want to piece together any semblance of story so you're gonna have to kind of glean any sort of worldbuilding and context from the areas you visit and the things in those areas, for better and for worse

[river veldt]

[fresh bane]

''What the fuck is this place? Where am I? Why am I here?
Oh, this place is called Undead Asylum, I look like beef jerky so I think I'm an undead? and it looks like this place is inhabited by other undeads too, this random guy told me about this undead prophecy passed down through generations too, hmmmm''

[visual hill]

I personally largely ignore codexes, they feel like filler most of the time

[fresh bane]

I just can't be bothered most of the time, I guess Souls games all technically have codexes in the form of the item descriptions for better and worse

The only codexes I've read are DMC's ones because they're mostly entries on enemies and usually they tell you useful tips on what to do to face them and in DMC5 they're all written by Nico so you get some fun entries in there

The one thing I wish Dark Souls had is some type of journal mostly, I'd love to vaguely keep track of quests, characters I've met, dialogues, etc

But not only do I feel like Fromsoft would never do that, I also think if they did then Souls players would all collectively have an aneurysm

I want to say it's becoming a common thing now but when I started TOTK and I noticed it allowed me to read the full conversation whenever you're talking to someone I could only blurt out ''yes, thank you''

[bronze abyss]

Confirmed best game,can pet and smooch sheep

[visual hill]

Deus Ex has conversation logs accessible at any time, I wish more games had that

this was in 2000 so it's not a technical limitation 👀

[fresh bane]

Yeah but that's unfair because Deus Ex is one of the best games of all time /s

[craggy vine]

Omg 3ds

I miss the 3ds

[visual hill]

what about the 3DO?

[sour hill]

Omg 3DO

[bronze abyss]

same,since i have a new 3ds xl now im trying out lots of new games since i can hgave an actual good experience which wasnt anywhere near as good on the old 3ds model

monster hunter is one of the first gfames i wanted to do cuz i love mh and now i have a 2nd stick to adjust camera finalyl

[sour hill]

Do we have a soulslike channel?

[visual hill]

I have yet to play a 3DO game, there are a handful worth checking out nowadays

[quiet swift]

There's an elden ring channel

[rotund forge]

If all goes well tomorrow I will be buying Hi-FI Rush