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mossy flume
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India’s moon lander

sour hill
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That's code for GTA V

mossy flume
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8 million people watched that live

static bluff
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okay yeah no gta vi will blow that away for certain

mossy flume
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It’s currently the most viewed livestream for simultaneous viewership on YouTube

static bluff
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never heard of it

light gate
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I don't think I saw Chandrayaan 3.

static bluff
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gonna get cruuushed

mossy flume
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The entirety of India certainly heard of it rdsnrk

static bluff
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betcha they've heard of gta too tho

light gate
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You bet they did.

static bluff
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it's bigger than hollywood

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it's bigger than bollywood even!

light gate
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Not bigger than Lego though.

sour hill
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🚙

light gate
static bluff
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i mean let's not get crazy

unreal idol
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Meanwhile the GTA6 hype has me going izzynothoughtsheadempty

static bluff
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yeah but like since when do you like very popular things

sour hill
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Dude I'm gonna drive a car so fast in GTA 6

river veldt
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im excited but i dont think i'll be able to play it

static bluff
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(this isn't me throwing shade - we're just built different)

light gate
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It does suck that Rockstar does use a game launcher though, and a goddam awful one at that.

unreal idol
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gesticulates wildly at SMRPG and Mario Wonder

static bluff
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ok ok fair

river veldt
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gesticulate is such a funny word

static bluff
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yeah it should be the word of the year tbh 😂

unreal idol
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I think it's because in general GTAs appeal on me is lost

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Hell at some point I think I had assumed GTA6 already came out poppyscrunch

flint iron
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My favorite thing about the gta series is I like to see videos about creepy things and secrets in each gta game

river veldt
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i just like driving atound

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YEAH THAT TOO

sour hill
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Drive fast! Do crimes! Do crimes! Drive fast!

river veldt
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remember the spooky ghost lady Specs

static bluff
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Same, captainmario. Typically, after every game play session, I'd save and just find a super fast bike and drive around as fast as I can for awhile. So fun

mossy flume
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GTA’s okay. shrug

static bluff
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which always ended in death

random steppe
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I think i tried 3-4 times to get into GTA or clones

flint iron
river veldt
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i wonder if my computer could handle GTA V i'm sort of interedted in playing it. the most ive played is at my uncles house like 9 years ago lol

flint iron
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Gta4 and san andreas has the creepiest secrets for me

static bluff
mossy flume
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GTA Online was the only thing I actually enjoyed when I had a few friends to play it with, but that was only over a few months.

random steppe
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Like RDR2 well enough, the fantasy of the gangster just isn't appealing at all for me

static bluff
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I think you'd like it genryu

light gate
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I guess I just like sandbox games.

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

random steppe
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I really don't like italian mafia stuff because I am too familiar with the real thing, and the dramatised version just come off as fake as hell

light gate
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Some people were asking for Mexican mafia GTA game, I'm like "fuck no".

river veldt
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Red Dead Redemption is cool

static bluff
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i never tried rdr2. I need to

sour hill
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It's the best rockstar game

light gate
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If you gonna do something serious, you gotta do it right.

mossy flume
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RDR2 was pretty fun

static bluff
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i dunno, i like all kinds of games. games games games

river veldt
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RDR 1 is on Switch now

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i also like games

slim thorn
random steppe
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RDR I like because cowboys are fun, I can definitely get immersed in that one.

light gate
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We need a plan Arthur.

static bluff
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I really don't like cowboy stuff because I am too familiar with the real thing, and the dramatised version just come off as fake as hell

slim thorn
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I've ridden real horses so video game horses are always disappointing

random steppe
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I also like Yakuza well enough, but it's a very different beast from GTA, and I still actually don't like the GTA bits that much, I like the big ultra dramatic set pieces

slim thorn
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ok I'm not even sure how kidding I am there

mossy flume
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Video game horses are always so badly done

sour hill
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I like the elden ring horse

light gate
static bluff
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Yakuza games are, like, an event. They're a whole 💫😵 thing

slim thorn
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I think Shadow of the Colossus had a pretty good horse? but wow I played that a lifetime ago

river veldt
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nuh uh in Skyrim horses can climb mountains

light gate
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So imagine reinventing mathematics to create IK tech for horse, absolute nightmare.

random steppe
flint iron
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I forgot what red dead redemption I was playing, but I remember playing some remastered one and it was extremely buggy and had quite a few sequence breaks but it was very fun in it's own way. Which I played the other red deads and they were completely fine

mossy flume
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Roach memes?

slim thorn
random steppe
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Witcher 3 horse

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It had especially derpy behaviour

mossy flume
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Oh, I haven’t played the Witcher series yet… always meant to

static bluff
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The Witcher 3 is a series I tried hard to get into and failed so many times

slim thorn
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knowing what I know now about Witcher mythos it feels a bit odd that Witcher 2 had no horse

static bluff
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I'm like "People like this what is wrong with me!"

slim thorn
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but probably for the best, it's still my favorite of those games by a mile

random steppe
slim thorn
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...okay I never had this experience in W3

light gate
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If you are cursed enough with technology, you are cursed enough to experience this.

random steppe
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At launch it was definitely not uncommon, probably they fixed the worst of it overtime

river veldt
static bluff
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Any time people bring up Wild Hunt I feel inclined to share one of my favorite The Onion articles - https://www.theonion.com/the-witcher-producers-assure-gamers-netflix-series-wi-1839499728

The Onion
‘The Witcher’ Producers Assure Gamers Netflix Series Will Include A...

Good news Witcher fans! After months of speculation over Netflix’s upcoming production, and growing worry that major elements from the books and the Witcher games would be cut out of the show, producers have finally put those concerns to rest by assuring gamers that all 400 side quests from The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt…

mossy flume
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Amazing cadancewheeze

slim thorn
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it's one of the few games I played for >100 hours and I never considered getting the full Ursine armor set rdsnrk

random steppe
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Roach also happend to appear on roofs at times, and other stuff like that, it's great

slim thorn
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I must've played after that stuff got patched

river veldt
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I couldt get a handle on Witcher 3's combat or story

light gate
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I need to give Witcher 3 another shot.

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Everyone keeps telling me its good, but I get immediately disinterested after I gain controls.

random steppe
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The roof part happened when you whistled for it and the random "let's spawn the horse here" happened to be be placed on top of a structure

river veldt
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whistle

slim thorn
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as far as Witcher story goes I strongly recommend 2 because it's so much more focused, and ironically has more meaningful branching in its core narrative than W3

sour hill
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And witcher 1

slim thorn
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but I wouldn't recommend any of them for the gameplay; it's fine, but not what I played them for

random steppe
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Witcher 2 gameplay was physically painful to me

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It's the one game I tossed down to easy

slim thorn
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these extremes always confuse me a bit though

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yes, at its worst you do shield spell, attack attack attack, shield spell, attack attack attack

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but that's also nearly every other RPG I've ever played, turn-based or "action", with curaga replaced by shield spell

light gate
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I always think curaga as someone in the 🚽

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I blame Wakka.

random steppe
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Witcher 1 is fine if you don't mind some jank and are used to RPGs, it's it's clearly a sorta CRPG with realtime control instead of turns and in which you control just one dude.

The jank is not little but you can work with that system, once you understand it.

river veldt
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wakka like Pac Man

light gate
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No, the one from FFX.

random steppe
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Witcher 2 is awful because it tries to be action but it still runs on RPG logic

light gate
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I blame him because I am upset that he allowed himself to be named Wakka.

random steppe
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Witcher 3 did the transition to action, it's more than serviceable

gaunt marten
light gate
random steppe
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It's the awkward middle step that really doesn't work

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Like Dragon Age 2

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Dragon Age 1 is full RPG, works good
Dragon Age 3 is basically full action, works good

Dragon Age 2 : Weird hybrid that doesn't do either well

slim thorn
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weird, I found W2 and W3 pretty similar in overall RPG jank levels

random steppe
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In my opinion they aren't even comparable

slim thorn
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although W3 also has open world jank

light gate
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Okay, so which Witcher game should I start with then?

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I have all three.

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I have not played any of them.

slim thorn
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unfortunately it seems like everyone will give you a different answer on this

light gate
slim thorn
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for me, the whole appeal of Witcher is the setting, story, and cast, and Witcher 2 is by far the best at those if you aren't already invested in them

random steppe
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Not to say that W3 doesn't have combat jank, I wont play that game without the Combat Redux mod for a reason, but at least you can be good at W3 combat, in W2 you can't be good at combat, you can be good at managing the nonsense that surrounds combat

slim thorn
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imo 3 works a lot better if you already know a lot of these people

light gate
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I have no clue on any of these people.

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So I guess I need to play Witcher 1?

slim thorn
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I would strongly recommend against Witcher 1

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I couldn't even get through a let's play of it

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sometimes things age so badly they're better off skipped

river veldt
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what does redux mean

random steppe
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I would start with trying 1, if you can't because it's too jank just watch the 4 hours video from Joseph Anderson

slim thorn
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but also none of the 3 Witcher games really require you to know the others in detail, they're essentially telling separate stories that happen to all have Geralt as the protagonist

thorny loom
uneven epoch
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i mean da2 is fun but indeed wonky penk my biggest gripe are still the repeated maps

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all of kirkwall has one (1) basement

sour hill
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ds2 is also fun but indeed wonky

random steppe
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It's definitely easy to bounce off Wicther 1

  • The tutorial is easly the worst part of the game
  • It doesn't hold your hand almost at all, it's one of the few games that if you go into a crypt and you don't have a cap potion or a torch it's just actually pitch black and you can't see shit.
  • It's old and looks old.

That said there is a lot of love and you feel it while playing, lots of systems, the story is exceptional, the caracters are actually really well written, it feels unique if nothing else because it's a game made by a pretty small company at the time in eastern europe, it has a lot of charm.

thorny loom
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Really wish dragon age would get s trilogy collection like mass effect

light gate
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Okay, what about the Witcher 2?

sour hill
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I did not make it through the witcher 1 tutorial

slim thorn
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I made it way past the tutorial of the let's play I tried to watch, but I was so bored to death of the story I can't even remember what was going on when I did drop it

random steppe
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I hate Witcher 2 gameplay so much that I am not the right person to sell the experience to you.
That said, I love the story so much that I played it twice despite it being like, 20 hours long.

static bluff
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Oh I didn't realize the trailer drops at, like, 6 am. No one watch it, MA wins

slim thorn
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this is one of those rare game series where the experiences I had and the experiences others report are so far apart they seem logically incompatible with us having played the same underlying game, and yet both are somehow real

random steppe
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Of a game I actively despise actually playing

light gate
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It just sounds like I shouldn't bother with any of the games.

slim thorn
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maybe try the Netflix show lol

random steppe
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They are all flawed in some ways but are all very good in others

slim thorn
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but if you're gonna be turned off by two people having wildly different experiences with a game, this will not be the last time it comes up ajlie

random steppe
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I think that to see if the good outweight the bad for you, you'd need to try them

slim thorn
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~~speaking of Fromsoft ponkbap ~~

light gate
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Alright, I'll give the first one a shot.

river veldt
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when will Dark Souls IIII come out

light gate
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I don't mind jank, I've played lots of jank games before.

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I just hope the game doesn't give me a lore dump like Witcher 3 does.

slim thorn
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I don't even know what part of W3 you're referring to izzynothoughtsheadempty

light gate
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The very beginning.

slim thorn
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like the opening tells you barely anything

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the first long cutscene sequence I remember comes after finishing the tutorial/prologue

light gate
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Yeah, that's what I mean. Its like the game already expected what I already know, and I had to like look for wikis to find meaning on what I was seeing.

slim thorn
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wait

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what does "lore dump" mean to you?

light gate
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I don't know.

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I don't know how to explain myself.

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Whenever I play the Witcher 3, I can't get into it because it feels like the game already assumes I've played this type of genre.

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When I play the tutorial, I get a bunch of wall texts describing every function.

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Its almost like an MMO but somehow its single player.

slim thorn
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well... I get that vibe from every RPG lol

light gate
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I don't get this from Bethesda RPGs, but then again... Bethesda is a very specific taste.

random steppe
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In W1 I will say, despite the awful prologue, the world is basically just normal fantasy world but more adult themed, so it doesn't have to explain that much.

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Of you mean it's overtutorialised, W1 definitely will be

light gate
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Maybe I'm getting too old to figure out its gimmicks.

random steppe
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But it at least doesn't waste much time before giving you some action

light gate
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Can you die in the tutorial?

random steppe
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Yes, I mean, it's an RPG, quicksave quickload, and all that kind of stuff

true maple
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You don't get it do you. If you die in the tutorial you die in the real game

light gate
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And my will to play.

flint iron
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Cuphead tutorial

light gate
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Like don't give me a power fantasy moment, just provide me a road and then let me off the road.

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But yeah, guess I'll find out.

slim thorn
random steppe
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Witcher 1 has difficulty modes as well, if I was ever to replay it I'd definitely replay it on easy for the story
Doing it once on hard mode was enough

teal sonnet
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excuse-me

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but what?

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what is the point of this

slim thorn
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W2 had difficulties, right? I don't even remember

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I assume I set it to minimum difficulty when I did that playthrough with my mom making all the story choices

random steppe
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Yes

slim thorn
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(most of my brainpower went toward remembering where all the good gear was since that's what lets you skip 99% of the grind)

flint iron
random steppe
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W2 had the mode that when you die, you had to start again as well

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And let's not forget, W2 was the one with quicktime events in cutscenes to not die

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And those, like the rest of the game, were jank as hell

slim thorn
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I never understood why anyone would voluntarily play a game longer than an hour or so on one-hit-save-wipe mode

flint iron
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God of war made me realize how bad I was in QTEs

slim thorn
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personally my only strong memory of dying in a QTE cutscene was Resident Evil 4 (the original), and that was a great experience because I had actually let my guard down; it got me fair and square

random steppe
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QTE events are good in a very specific situation.
God of War uses them correctly.
Make me push buttons to make my dude do awesome shit he wouldn't do normally.

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RE4 and 5 are the example of the worst kind of QTE

slim thorn
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I remember the bad kind of QTE becoming popular after RE4, but I liked them in RE4 itself

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(not that I mind the remake doing things differently, game design's evolved a lot since then)

random steppe
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The one that you are watching a cutscene, you decided to drink from the juice box you brought with you, and suddently they kill you because you had to consume matter to stay alive in this world instead of staring intently at the screen with both hands on the controller

slim thorn
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if I need actual safety to eat or drink stuff I'll just pause the game

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(I forget if the cutscenes were pausable; if not that sucks but it's a different thing)

sour hill
random steppe
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IdK why but now that I wrote that, I realised that it's like driving a car.
When you are driving a QTE to not die can happen at any point so you better not be drinking a juice

slim thorn
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thank you for reminding me of a very specific event from back when I had a learner's permit ponee

gaunt marten
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I have two hands

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One is for drinking water while driving and the other is for texting

sour hill
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You better not be drinking any juice though. It makes ppl act crazy

slim thorn
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also every time I need to walk across a street and there are bicycles involved

teal sonnet
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they had some agreement to promote the game with ray tracing?

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what why this is just what

thorny loom
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The make the cosmetic stuff look better i guess

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Side note i bought a skin the other day i actually liked

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wind stump
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heh
nice

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sage iris
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oh this game was really fun

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until it wasn't =/

thorny loom
worthy rose
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https://youtu.be/Jc3_4O-uq-o?si=ahz8bmfhUHAKwova

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astral steeple
strong pebble
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It's time to play some games!!!!

gaunt marten
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75% off

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I've been waiting for this game to go on a good sale for two years

strong pebble
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Is it cool??

gaunt marten
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It seems cool. I'll try it soon

random steppe
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Oh, thanks for the info, I wanted it as well

strong pebble
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Have you played Chrono Cross or FF7 or Chained Echoes or Sea of Stars

river veldt
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ive played FF7

gaunt marten
gaunt marten
strong pebble
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I think it kinda looks like that too

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Did you guys finish FF7??

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I sometimes play it

gaunt marten
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Yes

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It was okay. I prefer 8 and 9

strong pebble
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Did you guys see how Fortnite looks now and how you move differently? Since like yesterday

fickle garnet
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I did. Personally i like the new animations. They're much smoother

strong pebble
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I just played now and I think it looks and moves really cool like they really know how to make a game I think

fickle garnet
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Although i feel they made the walking a bit too slow

strong pebble
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I like how you swing when you jump and activate the parachute

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And how you walk when you crouch

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And how light is lightning I really like that it looks so pretty

fresh bane
strong pebble
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OHMMYGOD

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I gotta show my dad!!!!

river veldt
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ooh i lvoe these protags

white phoenix
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bro 1 million likes within 10 minutes of posting

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that is insane

weak river
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1 million likes, 50,000 views.
Leave it to Rockstar to defy the laws of reality.

fickle garnet
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Holy fuck the graphics

strong pebble
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They were late 6 minutes

little badger
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I can’t wait! rdsquee rdsquee

white phoenix
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lmao bruh

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river veldt
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looks great

white phoenix
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this feels like a moment in history

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gta transcends almost every other video game ip

little badger
river veldt
visual hill
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it's a Counter-Strike 2 moment

river veldt
fresh bane
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I don't really understand the insane hype to the point where people are tearing their own hair out at the thought of this game but I guess it's been a very long time since GTA V

strong pebble
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LES GOOOOOO

visual hill
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I hate to say it, but many people who have watched this trailer and are eager to play it won't survive to see the game release. 😶

mossy flume
strong pebble
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LES FREAKING GO

visual hill
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(statistically speaking)

light gate
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Well, the stream didn't happen.

strong pebble
light gate
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Time to actually watch it.

river veldt
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this is a very Florida trailer ppenk

visual hill
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it was the same for GTA V, first announcement was in 2011 after all

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and if you're a PC player, expect to wait even longer

strong pebble
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My dad will play games again

white phoenix
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i mean, the trailer straight up says 2025

visual hill
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it took roughly 1 year for RDR2 to come out on PC, and 1.5 years for GTA V

strong pebble
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This is so awesome 👏🌟🌟🌟

mossy flume
light gate
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It did not?

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I didn't get notified.

mossy flume
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Yes it did

fresh bane
light gate
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But yeah, 2025! Pretty much on target.

mossy flume
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It was a stream

fresh bane
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It was a premiere

mossy flume
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Yep

light gate
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Okay cool, so do you want the 'whoops I was wrong?'

mossy flume
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I'm being snarky, yes.

light gate
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Looking at the trailer in detail, GTA VI is gonna be like... 500GBs.

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I don't know...

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That's a lot of detail

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Okay maybe 240gbs, but holy fuck Rockstar.

mossy flume
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Pretty great graphics for a sandbox game

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Everyone's going to need a 4090 for that

light gate
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Or current consoles.

strong pebble
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Les go im so excited 👏👏

flint iron
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I'm looking forward to what new mechanics will be introduced in the game

white phoenix
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if it's even close to half the detail in rdr2, this will be amazing

light gate
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Goddam the graphics are just crazy, what the hell kind of overhead they are dealing with?

astral steeple
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Rip there being an Xbox one version of the game lol

light gate
white phoenix
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rdr2 is still the most impressive video game I've ever seen on a technical level

light gate
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RDR2 is impressive for sure.

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I just didn't think the leap was gonna be THIS BIG.

bleak lintel
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yaebounce_chickenjagoo RDR2 is one of my favorites of all time.

river veldt
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im most curious about the protagonists. Bonnie and Clyde esque duo is a really great idea for GTA lol

white phoenix
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I guess now with SSDs finally being the standard in both consoles and pc, they can do some wild stuff

visual hill
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I haven't watched the trailer yet (headphones out of battery) but from the screenshots, it looks nice by today's standards but remember this is expected to release in 2025 or later

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and by "nice", it's not Alan Wake 2 or Cyberpunk RT Overdrive amazing – though I assume it's meant to reflect a console version, not an eventual PC version

weak river
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You know, a while ago, I decided to make a prediction.

Which game would release first: GTA VI, or Half-Life 3?

I decided that there was no way Half-Life 3 would release after GTA VI did. This opinion was reinforced by Alyx's release, which gave the Half-Life franchise some actual momentum that GTA lacked. At that point, I was absolutely convinced that my prediction was correct; I even thought that we might get Half-Life 3 before we heard any official confirmation from Rockstar about a new GTA game.

...looks like I can't even win the bets that I make with myself.

random steppe
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Valve has literally no incentive to make games

gaunt marten
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Look on the bright side

fresh bane
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Well about time someone mentioned Alan Wake 2 in a conversation, feels like people are completely sleeping on that game

gaunt marten
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At least you get to pay out to yourself. You're gonna be rich

light gate
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I can't process what I'm watching.

river veldt
fresh bane
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I thought that with Alyx the idea of Half Life 3 was more likely than at any point before but I still don't know if they're gonna do it or not

fresh bane
strong pebble
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Whole world thinks about GTA 6 now this is crazy 🌟🌟👏👏

fresh bane
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It's visually one of the most gorgeous games I've seen from the last few years, artistically and technically

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Has some of the most impressing facial tracking too especially in a specific set of characters where it shines the most

strong pebble
random steppe
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Every Valve game that comes out is a vanity project, if they make HL3 it will be because they have an especially creative idea for it.
Alyx exists because Valve devs wanted to play around with VR

fresh bane
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And the seamless transitions from the mind place into the real world is the most impressive thing I've seen

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Even though the map takes a million years to load sometimes and it has some memory leaks here and there, it's still extremely impressive as a game

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but people don't seem to really talk about it from what I've seen

visual hill
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Digital Foundry sung its praises for good reason 😛

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it's 2horror5me so I'll skip it, but I plan to check out Cyberpunk's RT Overdrive eventually

strong pebble
river veldt
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ive heard about it as much as any other single player game that's come out this year

visual hill
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even Control with RT is a very good-looking game today

fresh bane
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I don't know what RT overdrive means but it sure is a spoopy game

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It's the closest thing we've ever gotten to a proper new Silent Hill game in terms of the quality of pretty much everything

visual hill
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there is a workaround to the launcher requirement, but it breaks cutscene skipping and requires a new save slot

river veldt
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i forgot about that

fresh bane
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Yeah, that's terrible, people shouldn't buy it from the EGS

visual hill
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@strong pebble please don't spam reactions, this is your final warning

strong pebble
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I like EGS they

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Ok

fresh bane
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One of the streamers I was watching playing it got completely locked out because the EGS servers were shitting themselves and I think AW2 is entirely digital so no game for you

random steppe
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I have no problem with EGS, but also, it's a full priced game of a franchise I have not that much interest in

weak river
random steppe
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IDK have they?

visual hill
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unlike most games, the exclusivity isn't expected to be temporary either, it will likely remain the case forever since Epic publishes the game

river veldt
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all im happy about is that Epistle 3 isn't possible anymore 😎

random steppe
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They were a while ago, nowdays they don't really make much

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Alyx seems to have been recieved well tho, so I supposed someone with good ideas must still be at the company

river veldt
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Alyx was so good

fresh bane
green fulcrum
static bluff
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Oh hey, the thing happened

random steppe
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So far their biggest recent innovations have been in kids gambling addiction thanks to CSGO

light gate
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People were this hungry that the entire thing just kept leaking.

green fulcrum
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Like, some of the clips in that trailer actually looked real.

static bluff
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It had alligators

fresh bane
river veldt
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my gambling addiction started with Super Mario 64 DS

bleak lintel
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It has an alligator going to the store to pick up some snacks.

flint iron
river veldt
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no they were Luigi's

flint iron
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I know

sour hill
river veldt
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i was obsessed with picture poker

random steppe
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TF2 to a much lesser extent

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CSGO crates and skin gambling has been much bigger

flint iron
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Minigames need a return in mario games, they only really lasted during the ds era

fresh bane
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But at least Valve is still doing something and not just sitting around, they made the Steamdeck which I still think is extremely impressive and a fantastic idea and seemed to have done pretty well despite some shortcomings, before that they had done the Steam controller which I still think is one of the best designed controllers I've seen, and then they played around with VR with Alyx which is one of the best VR experiences I think, and even though it's not yet ''finished'' CS2 is impressive too

bleak lintel
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yaebounce_chickenjagoo Bethesda cursed us with Horse Armor.

fresh bane
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Porting an entire game to another engine is not an easy task

bleak lintel
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We never recovered.

random steppe
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True, they did manage to crack the handheld market with a steam machine, which is impressive

fresh bane
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TF2 only had the crates added retroactively they were a thing before in CSGO I think

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CSGO gambling is much bigger than TF2's hats

weak river
random steppe
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They did also fail with at hardware developing 2 times tho

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With the steam link and the big steam machines flop

visual hill
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CS2 is one of this year's best-looking games if you ask me

river veldt
visual hill
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it's largely carried by its art direction (it has no groundbreaking rendering tech), but it proves that good art direction can carry anything 😛

fresh bane
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Sure but I was bringing those up more to say that even though they're not actively making any new games they're still doing stuff and still showing that Valve is still full of innovating people

fresh bane
bleak lintel
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AyakaNoteAnimated_FiaKaru Valve is pretty important with VR because otherwise it would be Facebook running the show.

sour hill
visual hill
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I wouldn't say the Source 2 rendering tech is dated, but it's a bit "against the wind" so to speak. That doesn't mean it's bad, it also helps eschew that usual "Unreal Engine-esque" look

light gate
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what

fresh bane
flint iron
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I like me some colors in my games

visual hill
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a lot of people run the game at minimum settings where it's not as good, but still fine-looking

fresh bane
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I still can't believe the first reaction a lot of CSGO players had was being mad that CS2 actually added colorful vibrant visuals instead of the same greyish brown tones to all areas

visual hill
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visuals were made vibrant because all the competitive players were already doing it with third-party settings like VibranceGUI

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so they effectively made the competitive visuals the default ones 🙂

fresh bane
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I do also think it's a pretty gorgeous looking game, the only double edge with that is that Valve games have pretty huge reputations for being playable on anything

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So I wonder if CS2 will cause some people to not be able to run the game as well?

visual hill
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yeah, it is a fair bit more demanding but still less so than a modern AAA game

fresh bane
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It's a significant upgrade but maybe it's optimized to hell and the lower graphic settings play really well on low end computers

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I haven't really played CS in ages so I can't say

visual hill
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they could expose "potato settings" so to speak (the Fortnite approach), but in a competitive game it's always a bit risky because these can sometimes be exploited to get better visibility

random steppe
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Fair to say that low end computers now are a lot more powerful than when CSGO came out

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integrated graphic cards on modern CPUs today are often on par with low end dedicated GPUs

steady skiff
visual hill
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(best-case scenario for an IGP currently, most people will not be able to reproduce this)

fresh bane
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I unfortunately can't say much on whether or not the CS2 visual upgrade will affect low end computers because I don't know much about them and I also don't know what people generally use rarityduhrling

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Though I think Steam checks that kind of stuff...?

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The hardware that people use I mean, or something like that, I seem to remember they would do surveys or something before

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So I would imagine that they probably still optimized CS2 super well just in case anyways

visual hill
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there's a survey, I regularly get it

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(gotta increase Linux usage stats)

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and the 4090 owner gang too

fresh bane
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I must have it disabled then because I haven't gotten one at all in years and years

visual hill
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I don't think you can opt out of it, but it's random

flint iron
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Ngl, I don't know my computer enough to know what it can run, so I usually just attempt to run a game and hope my computer doesn't switch to a toaster with a digital screen

visual hill
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you can sometimes get it twice in 3 months (happened to me recently), or never in 5 years

fresh bane
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I've used canyourunit for years but weirdly it's not a be all end all sometimes when a game would say it wouldn't run I still could run it fairly alright ish but it's still a good reference point

random steppe
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Yeah it's why the super low end GPUs aren't even sold anymore
Nvidia used to have like, 100 bucks GPU you could buy to slot which basically you would do only if you were desperate, were swindled by your computer shop, or were secretly masochistic and liked suffering.

fresh bane
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Generally before I upgraded most games past like 2013 were a complete no-go for me rarityduhrling

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So I never bothered

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It's why there's still so many games I haven't played that most other people have it's because I never had a system to actually run them

dire gate
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It's year 2690, we got RTX69420 with a size of an apartment, and we can finally play hl3 with it

fresh bane
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And the game ends on a cliffhanger again

dire gate
steady skiff
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Imagine Valve dropping an Half Life 3 Annoucement:

fresh bane
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I imagine it would take a significant amount of new innovations in tech for games to make Valve actually make Half Life 3 at some point, but I honestly can't think of anything new that games could do that Valve would find interesting enough to expand upon since all their other games introduced or at least expanded upon a lot of crazy things that games could do

random steppe
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I remember at some point, we were maybe 20, a friend of mine asked me to check why his computer was going so slow, and we ran a benchmark with some unholy GT 520 or some shit, and the computer literally ran better without GPU

flint iron
dire gate
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Meanwhile Valve: Try Artifact and DOTA Underlords rdwut

weak river
fresh bane
fresh bane
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I can't really think of what significant innovations Half Life 3 could do that would make Valve interested in making it ppinkiethonkers

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but then again this stuff takes so many people and so many years to figure out new stuff especially now where so much has been done already

dire gate
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Basically Nintendo saying "no we have no plan for fzero game because we have ran out of ideas"

fresh bane
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I think it ceased development altogether almost immediately

fresh bane
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But they seem to only want to make stuff when they know it can push games or hardware forward and innovate significantly

dire gate
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That is what Nintendo says

fresh bane
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Which, fair to them, it's not like they have to make games to make money anymore

dire gate
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"We have nothing new to give you, so we just don't make one"

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At least they threw us fzero 99

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Time for HL99 cozynotevil

strong pebble
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Warning - shooting and kinda scary

fresh bane
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Unlike Nintendo though, at least Valve lets you play their old stuff and has them easily accessible on their store rarityduhrling

weak river
dire gate
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Well thanks to it being pc

fresh bane
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As much as I would hope for it to happen I think it's already been far too long but we'll see, maybe they'll do Portal 3 with some even wackier physics simulation stuff or something

fresh bane
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they had a rough patch with the NFT thing that happened but they backed out of that very quickly and realized how much people hated the idea

random steppe
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I think portal 3 is more likely because puzzle games are definitely a lot less tapped as a genre

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Especially with their specific sci fi writing they have for them

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There is also the fact that shooter single player games are in fact changing and innovating, but they are innovating away from Valve style, which is probably the bigger obstacle

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Like the "no cutscenes, player always in control, people talk at the player in a pretty stunted way" is a terrible way to deliver story in most situations and it wroked for HL because it was the style at the time but it would feel pretty weird nowdays.
It for sure looked awkard in Starfield

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It work well in VR because of the gimmick of VR

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But that's basically the only place where it doesn't feel weird nowdays

river veldt
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i dont think we need a Portal 3

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story ended pretty satisfyingly with 2

random steppe
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I agree, I mean if we get one I'd rather they have a completely different setting, and keep the "Experiments ran by AI" theme.

I don't think it's necessary but if they do one, I'd rather they do it that way

river veldt
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though i suppose some sort of anthology thing would work good for a full game. they did that Steam Deck tutorial game thingy that took place in Aperture

fresh bane
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I don't know, I actually always liked how Valve games always had that way of doing things, especially how they never seemed to change their style of doing FPS I always thought it was pretty unique whereas other games could end up feeling samey, I wonder how much of it really is just 'jank' or 'dated' mechanics and how much it's just their style
Portal 3 would be cool though and I could totally see them dropping some Half Life hints knowing the really cool stuff that they always do with their enviromental storytelling and worldbuilding on their games

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I always appreciated the interactivity the player has with the world even as far back as Half Life 1

river veldt
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HELP

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(half life scientist)

random steppe
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Valve style I feel wasn't uncommon for when they were making games

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What was uncommon was that their story was actually good, but the style was pretty common in FPS

weak river
fresh bane
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I don't know how Black Mesa does it, but I really can't imagine a game like Half Life having cutscenes all the time or having walk n talk sections or stuff like that that has become pretty ingrained in games now especially when they are trying to tell a story

river veldt
random steppe
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Like, if you look at other FPS it's full of examples of no cutscenes always first person games

river veldt
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though that could be the computer glitching out, we might never know

random steppe
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In the past

weak river
green torrent
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the GTA 6 trailer just dropped and i couldn't be any happier

random steppe
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It's basically just DOOM

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But there is story

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Quake also, Bioshock and IIRC system shock before that

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Deus Ex

river veldt
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i love Bioshock's setting and atmosphere

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im meh on the gameplay though

fresh bane
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I don't particularly see that stuff as a negative myself even though I understand why it can get in the way sometimes and I get what you're saying

strong pebble
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I play Bioshock now it's not easy

river veldt
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ive only played Quake 1 so the only story i remember is from the inter episode cards

random steppe
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Yeah I'm just saying that the genre just moved away from those standards, and an HL3 made nowdays, with the same style would feel weird to a lot of players

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The genre is innovating, it's just innovating away from what HL was known for

river veldt
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yeah and i dont like it get off my lawn these damn kids etc

fresh bane
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It would feel weird and that's why I think it would be so good! It's unique

random steppe
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Which makes a sequel harder, especially when they don't have to do it

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They are perfectly content to just take 30% selling other games forever

river veldt
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what do you do if you work at Valve

sour hill
fresh bane
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I don't think they're gonna make new games personally but I still like to think about what they'd do if they did release one

random steppe
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I wonder how many times they did try to make HL3 just to scap it

fresh bane
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I definitely don't think HL3 is gonna be a thing ever

gaunt marten
river veldt
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well there was the leaked Epistle 3 a while back

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which outlined the story

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(it was bad)

fresh bane
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I think they probably really did work on Half Life 3 shortly after HL2 but when the people involved in Valve stuff at the time start leaving and years start going by I think eventually they just dropped it entirely

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Maybe ideas flied around devs but I doubt they ever made anything concrete if I had to take a guess

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Valve is still full of amazing creatives but all the people involved in past stuff aren't there anymore which makes these games existing much harder too

random steppe
# fresh bane I definitely don't think HL3 is gonna be a thing ever

Oh it will be at some point, Valve is big now but there is no guaratnee it'll stay at the top forever, and if they start to need to make games, I guaratnee HL3 will be something they do wether they have a good idea for it or not.
Ideally they would tho, given that they had so long to think about what to do for it.

visual hill
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Unreal did the "no cutscenes uninterrupted sequence" thing before Half-Life, but without any backtracking and with no dialogue. It didn't even have a Use button to interact with the world

sour hill
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I'm going to throw my hat into this speculation ring and say that I think they fully completed half life 3, but they programmed it so that after you play it you get struck by lightning, which sucks ass so they didn't release it

fresh bane
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Yeah that's not ideal

weak river
# river veldt which outlined the story

Well, I think Epistle 3 was more of a preliminary spitball session than an actual solid plot outline. Things likely would have changed had they actually gone further into development.

visual hill
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fun fact: Unreal simulates day-night cycle by having you progressively go through maps that go further into the night. Each map still has fixed time of day, but it looks like the day is cycling as you play

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Serious Sam also does this (one of the levels even has different time of day on Serious difficulty, implying the fact you're progressing faster, funnily enough)

astral steeple
sour hill
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Gamers

weak river
fresh bane
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Valve devs can noclip if they wanted too

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They just don't do it

sour hill
weak river
# fresh bane Valve devs can noclip if they wanted too

They originally got the idea for noclipping because that's how Newell showed up to the office every morning, actually.

Casually phased through the floor with a steaming coffee mug in hand, then levitated to his desk to start the day.

fresh bane
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When asked how is he doing that Gabe just says he thought everyone else could do it too

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So humble

river veldt
fresh bane
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Going back to the whole Valve style from earlier I would totally love it if they did release HL3 only for modern FPS players to ask stuff like ''how the hell do I aim down the sights? zippbrow '' ''what's the sprint button?''

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I'd like to imagine they'd keep it about the same style as the other Half Lifes like that

sour hill
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they can ask those questions in counter strike

fresh bane
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And they do!

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And they have for years

random steppe
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I mean a HL3 that is just HL2 but more graphics I don't think would interest me personally, I'd want it to be modernised.

fresh bane
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I think the only other game to do it like that is Valorant

white phoenix
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and every single other valve fps

random steppe
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At least for me

fresh bane
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Ideally, Half Life 3 would innovate significantly that it wouldn't just be HL2 with better visuals, but when it comes to their FPS style it's the one thing I could never see a Half Life game doing

random steppe
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Now the always first person and not cutscenes is defitely a more realistic choice

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And I wouldn't mind if they kept that part

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I think basically what HL3 should look like in 2023 is basically Deadspace but first person

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And not in space

sour hill
fresh bane
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I can't imagine Gordon sprinting with a rifle in his hands, sliding while shooting, aiming down sights, or whatever other things you have the ability to do in shooters for years now

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I wonder how they would modernize it without just copy pasting it the standard shooter gameplay into a half life game

sour hill
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I could definitely see him sliding while shooting

white phoenix
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but you can sprint in hl2

random steppe
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I mean I don't see him sliding while shooting but also, it's not any more abusrd than BLJ

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If anything is several layers more grounded than a lot of HL2 movment tech

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Have you see how high you jump in those games

fresh bane
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You can also long jump since Half Life 1 but the point is basically that I would be disappointed if a hypothetical half life 3 went with a standard modern shooter direction rather than seeing how they can iterate on their own style of shooter

visual hill
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HL2 originally had accelerated backward hopping, which reminds me a bit of BLJ

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it was pretty extreme but was patched out in Orange Box

random steppe
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As I said, I think that more than modern shooter it'd make sense to have a modern suvival game movment tech if anything

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Like Deadspace

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That said it'd be slower than HL movment tech, it'd be different, which reminds me of my argument that the first person genere keeps evolving away from HL roots and making a sequel a harder sell

fresh bane
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I can't imagine that it would be much of a problem considering Half Life is Half Life and it would probably still sell and generate a ton of hype anyways

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But then again I really don't see the game ever being a thing because I just can't think of what Valve would even do with it

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So I will never know

random steppe
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It would probably sell to some people, but it definitely runs the risk of removing the rose tinted glasses from many fans

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And it's a risk they don't have to run, which is why we aren't seeing it IMO

fresh bane
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It would sell to a lot of people, but I don't deny that if they were ballsy enough to maintain their style of doing things it would definitely make newer players feel weird playing it

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Similarly to how Death Stranding.... exists, and even Kojima fans sometimes found it to be so weird despite being Kojima fans and despite the game being as successful as it was

random steppe
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I think also a lot of older players that have good memories of HL2, and in the meantime played modern games with modern systems, would suddently realise that they miss the modern changes to the genre
Not all of them, but not few of them either if I had to guess

fresh bane
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I understand that, having been pretty huge on games like L4D2 but also other modern shooters like Apex
I still firmly have the opinion that the way those games do it is still good and I'd still like for it to stay that way but it's also true that newer players and even older players who are exposed to modern shooters would definitely find it weird because it's so radically different to what shooters are right now

random steppe
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Like, HL was always about innovating, if players play it and they find it old and stuck in its past ways, it's probably a negative for Valve

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But if they modernise it, without bringing anything new to the table, it could very well fell generic

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Which is probably worse

teal sonnet
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Rockstar really believes humanity will survive until 2025?

fresh bane
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Well again I do firmly stand on my opinion that that design isn't really bad or even necessarily old, I mean you're talking to a person who won't shut up about wanting fixed camera angles and tank controls to come back for survival horror games, but I do understand what you're saying because I've played both types of games and I totally get it

random steppe
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Yeah I get what you mean

fresh bane
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For me it's about getting used to different styles and I think that that variety is great to have, I don't think of it in terms of 'this game design is old and janky' necessarily, but I also realize that the way the masses react isn't the same

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It would depend on the circumstances of development for HL3 a lot because if Valve isn't in a situation where they need to make it they can do whatever they want and they just don't care, but if they had to for whatever reason that's more complicated

teal sonnet
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bruh

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GTA 6 is just florida

fresh bane
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I don't envision a future where Valve will go back to needing to make games again but I'm not an expert maybe some shit will happen and they'll lose a bunch of money

random steppe
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I don't even think it's old and janky, the style just changed overtime, and what the conventions are when a game comes out change the percpetion of it

fresh bane
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No you're right, I was just saying it as an example but you're correct in saying that the way shooters do things has changed drastically towards one direction

random steppe
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It's the reason a lot of movies that are absolute classics, feel a bit basic if you watch them 20 years after they come out.
Other people had 20 years to riff on the concept and change it, and move it in different directions

fresh bane
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Well that's a whole other can of worms because that involves a whole bunch of other stuff

random steppe
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I think it's similar but not exactly identical true.

fresh bane
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I get it but if we're talking just movies in general it involves so many genres so many techniques that it'd be an entire essay to discuss it

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Maybe if you narrowed it down to like, the horror genre of movies it'd be a closer example just because you'd be talking about how this one genre goes in this one direction over time

random steppe
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I mean games did suceed by removing certain modern elements instead of adding them before, it's not always about following the current trend.
Elden Ring is the biggest example that comes to mind on the spot, I think I've seen someone calling it "design by absence" or something like that

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It's rare tho

fresh bane
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Sure, I still have my fair share of criticisms towards the way Fromsoft designs its games and there for sure are some modern design elements that their games would do great to implement, but I still definitely appreciate how it goes in its own direction of doing things to the point where other games try to emulate it

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I think the one good example of how Fromsoft games can be modernized is Lies of P, weirdly

random steppe
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IDK if I agree that Lies of P is a more modern Souls game

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In what respects you mean?

fresh bane
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I have the same opinion I have with survival horror I just really like it when games have variety and I don't like when games and mechanics become standardized or become the trend and games feel like they're the same, which is why I can sometimes be annoying about how much I insist on liking games that are different like with survival horror or now with Valve shooters like HL and L4D

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I didn't watch all of it in its entirety and it's been a bit now but I remember hearing about how Lies of P has all these little qualit of life ish elements that aren't present at all in Fromsoft games but it still feels like you're playing a Fromsoft game and not just a copy

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I can't think of anything too specific right now because it's just a bunch of little stuff that adds up and it's spread throughout the entire experience so it's hard to think of specific examples

random steppe
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IDK it's different and some of the changes are unique and give it its own identity.
I can't think of quality of life stuff that is in this one but not in ER or even DS3 tho

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Compared to ER I would say that ER is more moden if nothing else because it's much more open and the lienar design of Lies of P or other souls games means that if you can't beat a boss, sucks sonny, keep trying to beat the boss, there isn't really anything else you can go doing.

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But also, I wouldn't expect them to do an ER, it's basically in a different genre, so the more fair comparison is probably DS3

fresh bane
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I don't really think that's a negative though, Dark Souls games are much of the same way and linearity isn't really inherently a problem especially when you can either just get gud through repetition and trial and error but also just farm to get stronger

random steppe
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It's a negative compared to ER IMO, because it's less accessible, and some DS are more open than others, but I agree it's in the ballpark of other fromsoft games

fresh bane
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One specific thing I seem to remember from Lies of P is that it does a better job at telling you about quests, I remember that in Lies of P's bonfires you'd be able to see when certain characters in some areas have something to tell you or maybe have a new quest which is a small thing but it's the kind of thing that after playing so many Souls makes you say ''oh thank god''

random steppe
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lilke it's more lienar than all of them, but not wildly so

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Okay yeah, extremely fair.
Tracking NPCs and when and where they have something new to tell you is tracked better

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It's also probably a product of the fact that it's a lot more story driven, which I consider a sidegrade not necessarily an upgrade over Fromsoft style

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I think I might prefer it personally, but I can see people liking From delivery better

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I do think that ER2 should add a journal that records NPC dialogue tho

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You can't expect me to remember what this dude told me 25 hours ago

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It was fine when it wasn't an open world, now we need a reminder

fresh bane
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It doesn't even need to be anything too in depth or specific but even just a basic transcript of a conversation or simply a an icon on a map or the bonfire where it tells you ''hey this character might wanna talk to you'' and nothing else wouldn't be anything that ruins it

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Unfortunately Fromsoft fans would actually kill the devs if they added anything like that

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I get it, immersion, realism, all that nice stuff, but when most players have to find out that certain characters even exist or how to properly actually finish a quest by reading it online years after playing the game it's not really great

mossy flume
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GTA6 will not release on PC at launch. PC version comes later.

random steppe
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in ER if you see a NPC it puts it on the map, so there is something of the sort, it doesn't update it if he leaves unless you check and doesn't add it automatically in the new location, which I might be fine with.
Like if you are following the NPC story well, you usally have a pretty good idea when their story might progress next, but we do need the transcripts

random steppe
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Shame on them

mossy flume
visual hill
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a day-1 PC release would be a net negative for Rockstar, it's more cost without any financial benefit

mossy flume
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No mention of a PC version at all, so yeah

mossy flume
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It would get pirated immediately

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In the millions

visual hill
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PS5 isn't crack-free anymore (older firmware) 🙂

mossy flume
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Right, but still limited

visual hill
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though I doubt GTA VI would run on that old firmware, new games often have strict firmware requirements for this reasons

mossy flume
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It’s the best bet for maximum profit

visual hill
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in Xbox land, the Xbox One is still crack-free (!), and of course the Xbox Series

random steppe
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I mean yeah, it's obvious why they do it, they are still assholes tho

mossy flume
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The Nintendo Switch 2 may be a hard nut to crack too

fresh bane
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I wonder if avoiding a PC release for fear of piracy and for maximizing sales is actually benefitial when you're essentially cutting off a massive portion of consumers early on in the game's lifespan

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Unless it's just not ready for PC and that's why they're doing it

random steppe
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GTA is big enough that a lot of people will just buy it twice

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It's what happened with 5

fresh bane
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Sure I wouldn't really doubt that but it's still pretty important for the game to be available to as many people as possible when it launches

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I mean it's gonna get pirated anyways when it eventually drops to PC right?

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I can't imagine people who don't already own consoles will purchase one specifically only for GTA, at least not a significant amount

random steppe
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It's big enough that it'll probably happen

mossy flume
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People buy consoles specifically for Call of Duty or Madden or FIFA

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They’ll do it for GTA too

random steppe
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I mean, the hype is already this big and it's just a trailer

mossy flume
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I bought an Xbox for Halo

random steppe
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I am lucky and really couldn't give less of a shit for GTA
I got 5 when EGS gave it away for free and played it like 5 hours

visual hill
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PC market is pretty large nowadays (and also the home of GTA RP) but let's be honest, a lot of people wouldn't buy the game

random steppe
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I am already mad enough when From pulls stunts with console exclusives

visual hill
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we'll also probably see people buy consoles only to play GTA VI, so I'm sure MS/Sony will be pleased 🙂

random steppe
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Luckily my liver don't have to live with a Rockstar fan

mossy flume
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Mhmm, I really don’t care much about GTA

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Will probably play it some at some point but I’m in no rush

visual hill
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will be funny to see GTA VI being more of a system seller than games like GT7 or perhaps even Spider-Man 2

mossy flume
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I didn’t play GTA5 until 2016

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And I was kinda dragged into it

visual hill
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me neither

mossy flume
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I think I actually pirated it the first time around just to give it a go

light gate
fresh bane
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I guess I may underestimate GTA fans and the hype for GTA then, I just am not under the impression that a significant portion will purchase GTA in other platforms that will make up for locking PC players out of it for who knows how long, but maybe it's because I just am not crazy about GTA in the first place

visual hill
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we've never had a single generation where both consoles were equally as convincing as now, so be happy 🙂

light gate
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Yeah but honestly I kinda want to sell my old Xbox titles and get a PS5.

random steppe
visual hill
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this is especially the case as the PS5 has improved a fair bit since launch (VRR, 1440p support, etc). It's mostly catchup with Xbox but it avoids having big sore spots in terms of what's supported

light gate
visual hill
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on the other hand, don't look for gyro support on Xbox – there is none 😛

light gate
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GTA is just a plus.

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I hate gyro so I'm okay.

random steppe
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I'd go for PS if that was the case

light gate
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Really? Even with the backwards compatibility?

random steppe
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Honestly I'd go for the next nintendo console if I had to buy any console

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But that wouldn't have GTA probably

light gate
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Yeah, it'd be PS4 power or Xbox One.

random steppe
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I hate what PS is doing with exclusives but also, they are pretty good games.
For backwards compatibility I'm pretty sure you could play most of those games on PC nowdays for peanuts, but I do have a PC to play them on

light gate
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That is true.

teal sonnet
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Holy fuck the trailer is already at 10M views

light gate
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Most of my old legacy games aren't that really rare.

teal sonnet
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This thing will get 100M eaaasy

light gate
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At least for Xbox 360.

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Huh, I dunno...

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I do like the Series X when it comes to better power.

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raritydisgusteugh god consoles are such a pain sometimes

green fulcrum
random steppe
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Gamepass is the biggest seller for Xbox, if you have a PC to use gamepass from, the PS I think makes most sense

light gate
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I suppose.

random steppe
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Either that or you don't like subscription models, which is fair

bleak lintel
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BronyaHacking Quick Resume is the amazing feature for Xbox.

teal sonnet
light gate
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My gripe with Playstation 5 is that I don't have anything, literally making an account out of nothing. Xbox has my old account and stuff will transfer, well at least most of it. (Blame the PS3 being $599 way back then lmao)

teal sonnet
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Seeing those numbers going up is legit insane

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I think I only ever seen something like that with the Endgame trailer

light gate
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But considering how Microsoft burns me up like a factorio factory on a lava planet, eugh... ajugh

teal sonnet
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this trailer will reach 100M in less than 24h

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The record rn is by BTS I think

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102 or 101 I need to check

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101.1M

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I do need to say tho, that trailer was pretty eh, nothing really memorable, not even the music

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C’mon at least give us memes

random steppe
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Honestly, the fact that it was relatively serious trailer is the thing that surprised me the most

white phoenix
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are you kidding there were a ton of memeworthy moments in the trailer

random steppe
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If that's how the game is, I might actually like it

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GTA V humour turned me off pretty hard

mossy flume
mossy flume
fresh bane
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Is the GTA6 trailer really serious though? rdsnrk

random steppe
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Doesn't help that GTA V humour was all current year humour and I did try it like 6 years after it released

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So it aged not super well

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That's kind of on me tho

visual hill
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GTA III/VC humor has aged quite well in my experience, the radio stations are 10/10

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Chatterbox FM 👀

fresh bane
#

:flutternod: Vice City is still great

random steppe
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Humour is subjective so I'm not saying it's bad, I'm really happy for you if you like it

teal sonnet
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I do am in love with the color scheme of the sunsets

mossy flume
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That goes without saying

teal sonnet
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looks so gorgeous

visual hill
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sunsets always look gorgeous

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golden hour and all that 😛

mossy flume
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Although given its Florida I might be pushed away from it again

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But we’ll see

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I guess I just don’t like the vibe that the GTA games give

random steppe
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I must admit that the modern "Bonnie and Clyde" thing they have going on for 6 looks more interesting to me than whatever they did in any of the previous chapters

teal sonnet
#

RD2 has an amount of detail I never seen any game come close

random steppe
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As a non GTA fan

teal sonnet
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I legit cant wait for actual gameplay trailers

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Just to see the details

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Character interactions etc

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The technical level this mf manage to reach

fresh bane
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What I'm wondering is if Rockstar is going to actually change the way they design their missions and the game based on the shortcomings I heard RD2 had or if it's going to be much of the same

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If they're going to go crazy with how much detail the world has I would expect that the same amount of attention would be put in letting the player do stuff in their own way and approach missions and the game itself from various angles rather than the weird blend of ''open world game with all these details but do the mission the exact way we want you to'' thing they've been doing

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But I'm sure we all already saw that video at this point

light gate
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Probably the same.

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GTA VI has been in the works for years, so expecting a different system is unlikely.

visual hill
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I just watched the trailer, it does look better than the screenshots suggested

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(something about things looking better in motion than stills :P)

fresh bane
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It's not really about systems as much as it is about game design really, I don't see why the game having been in development for years would change that

visual hill
light gate
river veldt
light gate
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You need to build the system based on the game design you are going to do.

visual hill
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GTA III/VC almost bordered on immersive sim-like which I really enjoy, and later games started being more scripted with more mission failure points if you don't do things as intended

teal sonnet
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Just didn’t hit hard like the cyberpunk music for example

fresh bane
river veldt
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this takes place modern day right ?

fresh bane
#

It's not like they don't know how or can't

white phoenix
river veldt
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i might just be confusing it with GTA Vice City which was the 80s

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oh yeah duh

visual hill
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modern day but in Vice City

teal sonnet
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Holy fuck the E3 cyberpunk trailer is already 5yo

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WHAT THE FUCK

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??????

visual hill
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remember the Twilight graffiti?

teal sonnet
#

This game came out yesterday

light gate
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No?

fresh bane
#

Cyberpunk's first trailer ever was in 2013

visual hill
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the 2018 trailer had a Twilight Sparkle graffiti which didn't make it to the final game

fresh bane
#

Game is way older than 5 years

teal sonnet
#

Also this shows how insanely big GTA is

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The gta 6 trailer in just few min will pass the views of both of those trailers

white phoenix
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I don't think many people truly comprehend just how big gta really is

teal sonnet
#

and cyberpunk was hyped as fuck

river veldt
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i like Lucia

white phoenix
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since 2009, the best selling game of each year has always been either cod or a rockstar game

river veldt
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i cant believe this is the first time they've done a fem protag

teal sonnet
#

Just behind the monster that is minecraft

white phoenix
dire gate
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Minecraft 2 when

white phoenix
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furthermore, the 3 out of the top 6 best selling games on the ps2 are gta games

#

gta 4 was the biggest entertainment launch in history at the time

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and then gta v was

teal sonnet
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gta was always there

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for pretty much all generation of games

white phoenix
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eh, not all generations, certainly not much before the sixth gen

visual hill
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GTA 1/2 had an alright but rough run, it was really GTA 3 that brought it into the limelight

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reception to GTA 2 in particular was lukewarm, which is a bit strange because it aged a lot better than GTA 1 if you try to play it today

teal sonnet
#

Like ps2+

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actually modern is not even the right word, but yall get it

visual hill
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Atari 2600 players: Hold my pong.

teal sonnet
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People literally grew up, had children, and their children grew up with gta

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It is a straight up multi generation thingy

light gate
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I remember playing Vice City not because of Rockstar's shitty mission system that plagued old games, but for the Back to the future mod.

teal sonnet
#

My condolences to absolutely any form of media that will come out same week as gta 6

#

Because will happen, someone will fuckup

river veldt
#

Back to the Future mod ?

light gate
river veldt
#

whoa

light gate
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The modding community for GTA was insane, and still is in some ways.

#

Unfortunately, that's changed for the worst by Take Two and Rockstar themselves.

river veldt
#

that is so. cool.

light gate
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heck yeah it is

river veldt
#

you could probably get the hoverboard from Part II working in GTA too

light gate
#

Yeah, that was a thing.

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It basically acted like a motorcycle.

visual hill
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bikes were one of the coolest additions to Vice City, it's also one of the top reasons to play Liberty City Stories

light gate
#

I still wait for the open conversion multi platform solution that isn't grove street's shitcanfest.

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But I know it will take quite a lot of time, specially with the C&Ds.

visual hill
#

reIII/reVC are still out there but were confirmed not to be developed anymore

river veldt
#

grove street ?

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there is some lore here i do not know

light gate
#

Grove Street was responsible for the release of the 'remastered' versions.

river veldt
#

oh !

light gate
#

It was hot garbage on every level.

river veldt
#

i own those i havent played them yet though

visual hill
#

they also remade the Ark Switch port, which was actually a decent effort (but still not great). It went from "terrible" to "meh, almost OK"

river veldt
#

oh

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why are the remasters so bad

light gate
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Too many issues to list.

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Way too many.

river veldt
#

oh

light gate
#

See the critical response for more info.

dire gate
#

I remember watching a streamer trying to play it, he tries to change the clothings, the game crashed

light gate
#

One person managed to find a bug by drinking hundreds of soda cans. This glitch exists in all versions though.

dire gate
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Then he tried it later after the patch, "this will surely work this time" and boom it crashed again

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"Ah shit, here we go again" moment

thorny loom
rough sleet
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so um

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gta 6 is in florida

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fucking dies

green fulcrum
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I mean, it has alligators just casually strolling into stores to grab a snack or two, I'm pretty sure everyone knew it was Florida. ppenk

river veldt
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also it's Vice City which is based on Miami

thorny loom
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My guess is itll be like 5. Vice city will be the main locale. And whatever they call the outskirts will be the everglades essentially

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yikes already 30% off https://store.steampowered.com/app/1716740/Starfield/

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novel pine
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"i played for 75 hours but i didnt like it" people are insane

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rancid herald
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eh, I get it

dire gate
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Well I mean, "I played this a lot but to be honest it sucks" is a real mood

strong pebble
#

I agree too

bleak lintel
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It makes sense for something like Starfield, there’s a lot of different things to do so it’s easy to move around and then upon reflection decide you didn’t like the game that much.

peak mesa
#

The last time we saw Vice City was back in 2006. It’s good to be coming back.

#

Sadly I don’t think many have known about GTA Vice City Stories.

quiet swift
#

""Adam Smasher will now be able to activate Sandevistan"

sour hill
light gate
#

I mean, I enjoyed Starfield. Was pretty much expecting Skyrim but in space, pretty much got that.

strong pebble
mossy flume
#

Don’t worry, Starfield is just Skyrim in space.

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If you liked Skyrim you’ll probably like Starfield.

strong pebble
astral steeple
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holy this is sick as fuck

quiet swift
astral steeple
#

?

hasty patio
novel pine
astral steeple
grand cargo
#

https://store.steampowered.com/app/917140/Amberial_Dreams/
full release of Amberial Dreams has just been dropped

Steam
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little badger
strong pebble
astral steeple
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thats from the trailer they posted

#

nobody can play it yet

thorny loom
#

Almost 65 million in 15 hours

unreal idol
#

I'm watching people bragging about pre-ordering this on reddit

gaunt marten
#

Stop looking

unreal idol
#

I did, I left the thread. It was mind numbing

wind stump
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broooo i dropped $2000 on this game i barely know about!!!!!

astral steeple
#

the only way GTA 6 will be good is if it has the director mode like 5 had lol

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whenever id play gta 5 thats all i would play in it

wind stump
#

there's like, 1000 other things gta is known for outside of that but 🆗

unreal idol
#

The last GTA game I played was 3

wind stump
#

3 is fine
san andreas tho

astral steeple
#

im more hyped for the new rock band game than gta 6 lol

fresh bane
#

holy hell it's 43 gigs

random steppe
wind stump
#

so is Pirate Software a command or is it a software company called Pirate Software

random steppe
#

It's his company I am pretty sure

wind stump
#

Also yeah, that's pretty bloody rough

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Especially if you have Twitch as your main income source

random steppe
#

It's an interesting side effect

wind stump
#

I mean, it is assuming you get equal subs on every day, but I guess you can't really give an accurate summary of that number without going by the average

#

so what i'm saying is, if you're going to get banned, do it after a subathon Whale

random steppe
#

It evens out because you are just as likely to be banned in day when you have more than average than you have less than average

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(I think autorenews on subscriptions of any kind should be illegal but that's besides the point)

fresh bane
#

ayy you can now add vehicles and guns to your favourites, they let you change from imperial to metric system opaLOLine and those weird stat tabs actually tell you what to do to level them up now too!

image.png image.png image.png
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lots of nice little changes in this update

random steppe
#

Very good adds

fresh bane
#

You can change the hud now, I disabled the lens distortion and the added effects of the HUD which adds some sort of bloom and slight blur like a CRT tv and now the HUD is much crisper and easier to read

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Can make the fonts bigger if I need to too, can customize the subtitles options

wind stump
#

YOOOOOOOO
For context, this is the first time in the story that you meet this character, but I've had them since the half-anniversary event over 6 months ago

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and given the fact they're my second strongest character (and I'd honestly argue my outright strongest), i like them a tad

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thorny loom
wind stump
#

fuck you mean "our" record

strong pebble
strong pebble
fresh bane
#

Oh my god I thought we were just racing flutterwaaaugh

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holy shit

strong pebble
#

Whoa wait hahahaha

thorny loom
#

Oh boy ea

little badger
#

https://fxtwitter.com/cyberpunkgame/status/1732022281528844722?

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little badger
little badger
gaunt marten
#

They should mention petty is a surname before saying it

fresh bane
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Oh...... raritysad

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wind stump
fresh bane
#

Read the song name

wind stump
#

ohhh right
never watched Edgerunners so I didn't get it the first time

strong pebble
#

I'm playing games 💖💖

visual hill
little badger
strong pebble
#

Guys do you play Fortnite Zero Build

little badger
#

https://fxtwitter.com/halosupport/status/1732106740878147707? @mossy flume

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strong pebble
thorny loom
astral steeple
#

how tf

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mossy flume
#

I mean, it’s a good bet

#

And it panned out

little badger
mossy flume
#

Yep

little badger
mossy flume
#

I’ve played a couple dozen sessions, but that’s it

little badger
#

I like the new ranking system they added recently.

little badger
teal sonnet
#

Also fuck pre-orders

#

Only thing I pre-order is collectors editions because at least I can get fancy shit

#

even if the game sucks, I have my 19 inches of venom figure, like I did with spooderman 2

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Tho the game is fucking amazing

unreal idol
#

I have no interest in GTA

teal sonnet
#

Spooderman 2 is gud

fresh bane
#

yo cookout with the coolest detective in town let's go

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teal sonnet
#

this still one of the best marketing campaigns ever

teal sonnet
#

I wanna see the new updates

light gate
#

Something I don't think anyone noticed, but going to Rockstar's site after watching the trailer, scrolling gives you this info.

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thorny loom
#

Leonida aka Florida

light gate
#

Yes we know its Florida, but never knew they called it Leonida.

teal sonnet
#

cool name

#

I am curious about the world map size

#

if will be a whole fucking state

#

I will be surprised if is not

#

They are spending billions, with b, on this game

#

I want to go to a zoo and see the animals in there pooping and eating their own poop for realism

light gate
#

Making an entire state would be insane, because they'd have to fill all the things to do in every section.

#

But honestly, some parts of GTA V felt empty.

#

So I wonder how they gonna tackle that.

fresh bane
#

I'm gonna have to awkwardly reject him aren't I... trixienervous

image.png
#

ah man

teal sonnet
random steppe
#

Agreed, sad times

fresh bane
#

A lot of people seem to hate River for some weird reason I think he's completely fine and I love the guy but I do kinda wish the game gave you a choice to reject him or set your boundaries straight before this moment because it's so incredibly awkward to reject someone after all this especially that scene at the dinner table izzyscrunch

random steppe
#

Rivers is great

fresh bane
#

Also looking up about River stuff I find it funny that so many players who actually went for his romance were players doing a gay male V and they all talk about how it was so awkward because male V just fucking grabs him by the neck and goes in for a kiss just like that and River pushes him off opaLOLine

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it's so scuffed

random steppe
#

Yeah they definitely fucked up a few times along the way with romance in general

thorny loom
teal sonnet
#

This new update seems to add more romance thingies

#

cant wait to see

arctic fern
#

Which is just Judy and him that ive found, tho I tried with the nomad lady.

fresh bane
#

I really like Panam and I wanted to go all in with her but she's not into fem V so I'm going with Judy instead

arctic fern
#

Yeah I figured that would have been the case

astral steeple
# 

-Kermit the Frog from the Muppets is going to appear in Fortnite
-Fall Guys is gonna be coming to mobile devices
-An Xbox Live Arcade game that "made Nick cry" is getting a remaster```
#

HUH??????

thorny loom
#

I mean. Kermit wouldnt be that surprising

sour hill
#

If they add Kermit to fortnite I will throw up

astral steeple
#

Best collab skin

sour hill
#

I'm gonna remove my fortnite tattoo. I can't believe they would do this to Kermit. This is disgusting

fresh bane
river veldt
arctic fern
fresh bane
#

Oh you mean Panam

arctic fern
#

yeah

#

i forgot her name

fresh bane
#

I do think having straight/gay characters is fine but it is a bit disappointing that you can't go for all romance options

#

It's a weird state of appreciating having it but at the same time being bummed out because I'm sure a lot of male V players would've liked to romance Judy/River and a lot of fem V players would've liked to romance Panam

mossy flume
#

Personally I wasn’t torn up about her being straight. Panam is kinda a dick.

river veldt
#

Skyrim solved this issue by just making everyone bisexual 😎

mossy flume
#

Everyone’s bi, problem solved. twiright

light gate
#

So I've had a chance to play Sonic Dream Team and uhh, its like a sandbox Sonic game. Where you run to the finish lap, and play the same map in different ways to achieve different goals by exploring the map. Then you get to play different play styles with Knuckles, Tails, Rouge, Cream, and Amy

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Its kinda neat.

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And there is a gem collector reminisant of SA1&2

fresh bane
#

I don't even think it's an issue really, it just kinda bums me out but I also think it's fine at the same time

random steppe
#

I think it's okay, or even preferred to make characters have distinct sexual orientations, it makes them feel more like real people, but also they should probably make it so it's not the kiss moment, after like, an hour of romantic undertones, when you discover that

river veldt
#

that sounds fun Deviant

arctic fern
fresh bane