general gaming

[slim thorn]

oh, for some reason I was expecting it to be a longer game than that

[random steppe]

I was in a mission that I did previously in NG, and it was to ||destroy a bunch of enemy forces with a couple of allied pilots||
||At some point the faction we were assaulting contacted me and said "if you kill your allies we'll pay double what they are paying you" so there are differences within missions as well||

It's around ||60|| missions, NG++ missions included
A normal NG playthorugh is probably clocking at around 15/25 hours depending how good you are

Doing everything is going to take a bit, repeating missions is faster the 2nd time around because you already have builds you know how to play and you are better at the game but there are the new missions in the mix and they aren't easy

To be clear with finished I mean I did one finale

Then I looked up how much stuff was in NG+ to gauge if it was worth my time

Which it's how I know what's in there

[fickle garnet]

Im still stuck on Balteus in AC6

I got them down to under 1/4 health and died

[random steppe]

He was a big hurdle for me

Consider shotguns if you haven't, they are pretty good at staggering fast and also pretty decent at post stagger damage

And it's not difficult to close distance with im in particoular

[wintry canopy]

It took three days, but I finally cought a fly that just leaves one more bug to get and I've cought them all. I also found this while doing so.

I don't have a place to put it yet, so I put it in mobile home storage for the moment.

[proud warren]

let the people panic; it'd be funnier that way

[light gate]

Foodfight Simulator 23 https://youtu.be/Zjxr5Q6eLIE?

[sour hill]

Does AC6 have Patches in it?

[random steppe]

This one doesn't seem like it has, I did find ||the Moonliight sword tho||

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/9673yczHIRg?si=2n4b4dYawQ1tJNYQ

''so how broken do we want the game to be?''

''yes''

[thorny loom]

Lmao

[fresh bane]

both Gogetas being able to do the stuff they do is still literally insane giving Gogeta 4 a comboable grab is ridiculous

Big green needed that buff even though it's nothing too huge

and Vegetto now hits low first

how can you do that after it's been neutral for so long some poor soul isn't gonna know about the patch and will get mixed into another dimension

the Videl changes are neat but my girl could use some buffs

[thorny loom]

preloads for starfield are live on steam

[river veldt]

epic

[chilly mural]

YOU CAN LEVEL 1 TO LEVEL 3

WHAT

THE

FUCK

https://manebooru.art/images/1310654

[robust latch]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1310330/Goodbye_Volcano_High/

Steam

Goodbye Volcano High

Features Fully voice-acted and starring Lachlan Watson (The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina) Meaningful choices: Make difficult decisions to navigate Fang’s life and friendships Stunning hand-drawn art and character animations—feels like a playable cartoon Written using the storytelling engine that powers Heaven's Vault, Sorcery! and 80 Days Good...

Price

$26.99

Recommendations

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[slim thorn]

#HatInTime: all right, I finally caved and got the Nyakuza Metro DLC

[gaunt marten]

Play it in co-op

[slim thorn]

oh?

[gaunt marten]

The DLC adds co-op

It's a good fit because it already has customizable skins

[gaunt marten]

This game always seemed interesting, but the early releases were pretty buggy

I sure hope it's polished now

https://i.imgur.com/Cxsxb8i.png

https://i.imgur.com/ZwXx2Bh.png

...I don't have one

And it's a desktop

[little badger]

I just beat verstappens time in time trial! @slate star @graceful bridge

[graceful bridge]

Nice!

[slate star]

[little badger]

It was the pro event

[quiet swift]

This fits oddly well

[wind stump]

Me: "Wow, they're adding the pacifist robot Pastcal to Nikke, how the hell did they get that idea?"
NeiR Automata: "Observe."

I didn't expect chest lasers.
Maybe I should have.

[little badger]

@graceful bridge

https://twitter.com/playstation/status/1696908341627310218?

[graceful bridge]

Hm. Slight bump in price, not bad.

Ooh, Saint's Row

[little badger]

[slim thorn]

not how I expected to be called out by a video game

[gaunt marten]

Oh oh

You should do the train mission

[slim thorn]

[gaunt marten]

And then when they ask for your password, type a swear

[slim thorn]

oh that train mission

I think I told that crow "123QWERTY"

[gaunt marten]

There's no easter egg for that password

[wind stump]

is there one for hunter2

[gaunt marten]

You should try it yourself

(probably not)

[slim thorn]

oh hey, 🥚 seal got a sticker

[teal cliff]

I am going to play Gungrave GORE

[gaunt marten]

Have fun

[wind stump]

i see you already got the outfit

[slim thorn]

it's basically mandatory

[teal cliff]

I own a hat in time but I have yet to play it

[wind stump]

nyandatory

[fresh bane]

That game has some cute fits

[slim thorn]

I still can't get over that all of the trains are being pulled around by huge yet adorable cats

[visual hill]

haha, interesting 4th wall message

[gaunt marten]

Yeah it's a diagnostic you get when you launch the game

[slim thorn]

much better angle of the train cats here

[rotund forge]

It's better on Switch in my opinion. While I have not played it on anything else, I've seen zero glitches or bugs on the switch version and I hardly lag outside the Snatcher's Death Wish missions.

[slim thorn]

I haven't noticed any bugs or lag

[rotund forge]

Well I heard someone mention lag so I just wanted to put my 2 cents in lol

[slim thorn]

only "glitches" I can recall are the occasional getting caught on an odd piece of geometry that every 3d game has, and they've always been easy to deal with so it's just amusing

[rotund forge]

Have you done any of the Death Wishes? They're brutal and I don't have all of them completed years later...

[slim thorn]

one or two

I'm nearly done with the metro area so I was thinking of trying some more

[rotund forge]

I remember the one where you fight snatcher's "god mode" for as long as you can hold out, and my record was 8 minutes or something. Then there's the race against time on the train...I don't think I've seen any wishes for the dlc's if there are any but maybe I should redownload it...

[slim thorn]

I stumbled across one snatcher coin in the metro area so apparently there's that at least

[wind stump]

Because of course I had a Koishi mod installed

[slim thorn]

that's perfect

[wind stump]

ignore my orb count

i had to do a lot of rolls on the slot machine

Because the skins were behind the slot machine mechanic and you know
i've beaten the game and bought everything else anyway so shrugs

[slim thorn]

I thought I had too many extra pons stockpiled, but all the new cosmetics the metro sells made them evaporate quickly

[harsh kestrel]

What game is that again?

[gaunt marten]

A Hat in Time

[harsh kestrel]

Oh yeah, that

[fresh bane]

''huge yet adorable cats''

that's a bit of a redundant statement /s

[fresh bane]

big ol' glowing eyes

[slim thorn]

all right, now I'm done with the Metro area

let's do some Death Wishes

[green fulcrum]

That reminds me, someone made a mod a long time ago that allowed you to battle all of the bosses at the same time (I'm assuming you completed the main story already, so this hopefully isn't a spoiler). It's honestly insane. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gavf3fPKjbs

[slim thorn]

welp, now I notice lag

just gonna forget about the time bonus on that death wish

[rotund forge]

Told ya 😉

[slim thorn]

for a first attempt, I'm very happy with a close call like that

[gaunt marten]

Nice work

[wind stump]

[slim thorn]

okay, that was a hard one

there's probably a route that makes it super easy but

[gaunt marten]

I'm delighted you're doing the challenges anyway

[slim thorn]

oooh he's got harder boss fights

...okay I'm unequipping the laser badge

I was not expecting the first "hard" boss to require an HK/Blasphemous level of focus

[fresh bane]

this is the stupidest/coolest thing

[gaunt marten]

It's not easy

[fresh bane]

''Sir! It's one of those street gang punks! H...he's bustin' a move! ''

[slim thorn]

sure would be nice if he had a health bar though

[rotund forge]

Oh is that mafia boss?

[wind stump]

dark souls moment

caps oops

[slim thorn]

AND STAY DOWN

6 tries I think?

Mafia Ball is still the best worst attack

[gaunt marten]

There might be a boss health bar mod

[rotund forge]

I gotta reinstal Hat in Time but the 3 games I play religiously take up all my storage and I don't have an sd card...

[slim thorn]

Bonus: With One-Hit-Hero Equipped

hahahahaha no

[gaunt marten]

Yeah but at least the game won't lag

[rotund forge]

Also he takes the same amount of hits. It's not about damage taken, it's how many hits you can get in, so just count how many it takes and that will be the total every time

[rotund forge]

I've done it 😏

[slim thorn]

I probably could do it now that I'm used to the fight, but I wouldn't enjoy it

I expect to call it quits long before I do as many of these as you did

and yes I'm aware Hat Kid has only one real attack so of course it's always about number of hits

actually does the dive attack do the same damage as a regular swing?

[rotund forge]

It counts as 2 last I checked but don't quote me

[grim stirrup]

hat kid has like 6 ways of doing damage, i dont know if her combos have different damages

[slim thorn]

or rather I should say, in boss fights you only get a dive opportunity if they want you to have one so it's not like I can really choose to do the higher damage attacks

uh... swing weapon, jump on head normally, homing dive attack, laser badge? what's the 5th?

throw object?

[grim stirrup]

punch, umbrella, mario bonk (ice hat might do different), jump attack, potion hat, laser badge

[slim thorn]

oh right brewing hat

I never remember to try that in combat

[grim stirrup]

i had to use it a lot on one of my randomiser runs

everything either just got jumped on or potion'd

[rotund forge]

Something about the death wishes is that my completionist brain wants to do all requirements of a mission at once when you don't have to. I barely could handle trying to do more than one at a time lol

[slim thorn]

I think that's the first time I accidentally got a bonus

[rotund forge]

The second bonus is brutal...better have that sprint hat on

[slim thorn]

literally touched the hourglass as the timer was saying "goodbye"

[wind stump]

[slim thorn]

10 second train rush is nuts

[gaunt marten]

You have to go for most of the time stoppers

[slim thorn]

obv, that's not the part I'm stuck on

[rotund forge]

I'm looking forward to a HiT mod called Project A. I can't mod myself but I've seen the trailer. It's been in development for years now and has slowed production...

Also yeah the train is tuff

[slim thorn]

unfortunately I'm getting a lot of lag pauses on this level so it might not be feasible

[gaunt marten]

You could reduce your graphics settings so you lag less

Make sure to enable shader precaching

[slim thorn]

oh yeah, my visual quality slider was clear at the opposite end

"Precache Shaders" is already checked

[gaunt marten]

Good!

It should only be relevant when loading each level for the first time then

[slim thorn]

wow, changing graphics settings mid-level caused the camera to get stuck inside Hat Kid

that's a restart

oh right, since none of you are watching anyway I should kill the stream

[gaunt marten]

True

[slim thorn]

made it to the lava car

eff you and the train you rode in on

actually very happy I managed that

haven't noticed a single pause since I turned down the graphics so thanks for pointing that out

[gaunt marten]

It's one of the more annoying death wish levels

[slim thorn]

after all that, Rhythm Jump Studio is nice and chill

[gaunt marten]

When I played the game originally, the only lag I got was an extended freeze in the conductor boss fight

[astral steeple]

https://twitter.com/charlieINTEL/status/1696938131260309519

CharlieIntel (@charlieINTEL)

The new Operators coming soon to Call of Duty, found today via data mining:

— Skeletor
— Spawn
— Ash Williams
— Alucard

Seems like Season 06 will have a lot of licensed Operators

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OH COME ON

[dense crypt]

"IM GOING TO SHOOT YOU IN THE CHEST, HE-MAN! NYEHEHEHAHAHAHA!!!"

[astral steeple]

this is super annoying

[fickle garnet]

My dad is gonna love this

[astral steeple]

todd mcfarlane who owns spawn had said spawn would "be coming to the biggest game in the world in october"

[sour hill]

Yo, skelator

[slim thorn]

welp, that time I died seconds before victory instead of just barely making it

[wind stump]

Thanks, Snatcher.

Very cool.

[slim thorn]

the lag is back

would've had it that time if not for lag making multiple hookshots miss

lol, now I glitched into this pipe and can't move

something about death wish is making the game go from no glitches whatsoever to what might as well be Snatcher editing the level just to mess with me

[rotund forge]

Also yall gotta check out Man on the Internet https://youtu.be/fmz1p0U_sPk?si=F4MbHqm-hRMj5mFB

His lyrics are a godsend

[slim thorn]

there we go, finally everything worked while I was also performing adequately

(even managed sub-0:30 on getting into the well)

[thorny loom]

Okay i will admit. Id dig a spawn skin

https://kotaku.com/starfield-leak-cops-gamingleaksandrumours-reddit-ban-1850789139

[river veldt]

Ash Williams
this is the closest ive ever gotten to wanting to play Call of Duty

[thorny loom]

That is also a good character choice

[river veldt]

he better have his chainsaw hand and boomstick or it's 0/10

[thorny loom]

Activison seems to have taken note from fortnite

Get licensed character skins or celebrities in your game for sales and publicity

[slim thorn]

that death wish time rift was chill enough I went for both bonuses

oooh next up is Quality Time With Snatcher

first try 2:26

[astral steeple]

fort has had ash williams for like almost a year now

with his chainsaw as a pickaxe, and the backbling is the boomstick

[slim thorn]

3:54

I think I can do 4 minutes

[slim thorn]

nah, I nearly had a 4 but now this level's also murdering me with lag

real shame that it falls apart so much when it pushes up the challenge

yikes, even regular platforming just broken now

I'm gonna just stop playing tonight and hope it's in a better mood tomorrow, maybe this is one of those problems which only gets bad when the program's running a long time

[river veldt]

OMG

is the Necronomicon his glider

[visual hill]

Hat in Time is a UE3 game, and it shows quite a lot on weaker CPUs

(not UE4, huh)

Rise of the Triad 2013 is another example of a UE3 game that's still a stutterfest on modern CPUs

UE3 stutters for different reasons than UE4 though. It's mostly because developers didn't care much about framepacing back then, while UE4 is shader compilation stutter for the most part (shaders are much more complex than in the UE3 era)

[astral steeple]

nah its a 2nd backbling

[river veldt]

oooh

is there any chance he'll return to the shop

[slim thorn]

my CPU is apparently a "AMD Ryzen 9 6900HS with Radeon Graphics" at "3.30 GHz"

is that "weaker" by the standards you're applying?

[astral steeple]

he will probably return around halloween yeah

[visual hill]

that's a decent CPU by modern standards, but single-core performance isn't fantastic as it's a laptop CPU with lower clocks

[river veldt]

i havent played Fortnite since like, 2020

[astral steeple]

ah

[slim thorn]

makes sense

[river veldt]

but Ash might make me try it again....

[slim thorn]

I don't shut down / restart my laptop as often as I probably should so I'm gonna do that tonight and see if that also helps when I try again tomorrow

[visual hill]

I just got a laptop with a i9-13900H, and the 6900HS isn't that far away

[slim thorn]

because that performance was definitely getting worse the longer I played, it wasn't even noticeable until several Death Wishes in

[astral steeple]

theres been two different new maps since then

[visual hill]

it could be thermal throttling, which is common on laptops. Check temperatures while playing, they shouldn't exceed 90°C (ideally less than 80°C)

[river veldt]

[astral steeple]

2020 was chapter 2

is currently chapter 4 right now, and will be chapter 5 in december iirc

[slim thorn]

that would make sense, how do I check temperature?

[river veldt]

holy hell

[gaunt marten]

Coretemp

[visual hill]

LibreHardwareMonitor can do this for both the CPU and GPU, including graphing

alternatively, use RTSS for a in-game overlay

[gaunt marten]

Librehardwaremonitor sounds better

[slim thorn]

apparently I can't even google RTSS

[visual hill]

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/rtss-rivatuner-statistics-server-download.html

[astral steeple]

deff worth getting into nowadays especially with the no build mode which was added last year in march

[visual hill]

I've never played Fortnite, I would probably give it a fair chance if I had more time but I have enough games to play already 😛

[slim thorn]

oh boy, one of those download pages where the download link goes to another download page with more links to download pages

what is the actual file you're suggesting

"Download Version 7.3.4 Final"?

[astral steeple]

it kinda sucks optimus prime was battle pass only for last season

so now people who like transformers will only be able to get megatron and bumblebee

oh and optimus primal

[visual hill]

@slim thorn oh I see, there isn't a standalone download for RTSS… you can get it as part of MSI Afterburner (which works on any GPU, not just those made by MSI)

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

We always suggest that you download the latest full beta package of MSI Afterburner which always includes a stable build of RTSS - Download here.

[visual hill]

MSI Afterburner also does clock/voltage/fan control for the GPU if you need that

[slim thorn]

I have no idea what I need lol

[gaunt marten]

You don't need clock or voltage control.

Fan control might be nice in some situations but in your case I'd just get MSI Afterburner and not use it. Just use RTSS to monitor

[river veldt]

Doomguy was also battle pss only wasnt he

[visual hill]

yeah, pretty much. RTSS is independent, it just happens to be bundled with Afterburner

[astral steeple]

yeah sadly

geralt too

[visual hill]

I wish MangoHud had a Windows equivalent (it's more "no-frills" compared to RTSS), but alas

(Steam Deck uses MangoHud for its performance overlay)

[gaunt marten]

Download Version 7.3.4 Final [ 3097434 downloads ] should work too

[astral steeple]

eren yeager as well

[thorny loom]

Its very noticeable on me2 and 3 which run that ironically

[astral steeple]

luckily theyve been doing these sort of "mini passes" as of recently with certain collabs in them, which arent locked and will be able to be in the shop after the mini pass itself ends

like with the clone troopers and darth maul and stuff

which are usually a couple weeks long

and let you earn stuff in them from challenges

[river veldt]

i see

[astral steeple]

also

https://vxtwitter.com/ShiinaBR/status/1696963368593014900

todoroki is coming as well

looking to be pretty solid as a lineup for the next MHA collab

maybe theyll do Tsuyu as well

[rotund forge]

Like I said, my record is 8+ minutes

gl

[slim thorn]

I’m definitely not aiming that high

if the game’s smooth tomorrow I’ll probably make another attempt at 4 though, maaaybe 6 if that goes well

[wintry canopy]

I have finally caught every bug in new horizons.

[arctic fern]

https://youtu.be/gbd2mFwbcSk?si=nStLJ2Ub8Td2M660 man I don't know when build 42 is coming out but its genuinely awesome to see all the features they're working on

[mossy flume]

Is that a Simslike?

[gaunt marten]

No

It's a zombie survival sim

[mossy flume]

Ah

[gaunt marten]

It does have some Sims inspiration though

[arctic fern]

It's the sims post zombie outbreak

[mossy flume]

I can tell, the aesthetic is extremely Sims 1

[arctic fern]

But there's no npcs yet

[green fulcrum]

I heard some people talking about this game at work yesterday

[gaunt marten]

It's fun but I don't enjoy the zombies

[arctic fern]

Its a great game, its got one of the best cooking and crafting systems I know
Most games tell you to get the one specific kind of meat to make specifically beef stew or chicken stew
Zomboid is just like "you got some stale chicken, beef jerky, half a can of corn and some random herbs you found on the ground? Put it in a pot and boil up a delicious stew"

It just works

[arctic fern]

Honestly I kind of agree lol
Not that the zombies are at fault, they're very well done

I just wanna build a base, set up a farm, fish and chillax

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

[arctic fern]

Actually funny you should say that, someone modded in the sims 1 neighbourhood into the game lol

I'll try to find the link

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2966610350&searchtext=Sims

Ha yes

[mossy flume]

Ha nice

[hasty patio]

https://www.ign.com/articles/the-elder-scrolls-6-officially-in-early-development-but-dont-expect-to-hear-about-it-soon

See you in 6 years.

[white phoenix]

releasing more than a decade after announcement, nice

[hasty patio]

I just hope Skyrim Grandma can last long enough to play and see herself in it.

[arctic fern]

Announced 6 years ago but only development now? Christ I hope we don't have a cyberpunk situation

[hasty patio]

And maybe, just maybe, they will be done before Star Citizen is out.

[dire gate]

It has been sent to the future, by the Elder Scroll

[white phoenix]

I think it was mainly to get a bit of goodwill right after the fallout 76 launch

[hasty patio]

Beth's thing tends to be putting the majority of resources into one thing and when that is nearly done, they'll switch people over. There has been a skeleton crew working on it since announcement, but I suspect folks have transitioned over to this project now.

[thorny loom]

Yeah they really should have waited till after starfield to announce ES6

I feel they just did it so they could get people to stop asking about it

[dire gate]

The question is, which one comes first

TES6

Prime 4

[thorny loom]

lmao

[dire gate]

Silksong

[thorny loom]

prime 4 if its out wont be until the new console

[dire gate]

It is year 2030, Metroid fans are playing Prime 4, Elder Scroll fans playing TES6, and PMD fans still coping

[mossy flume]

Yeah, they've been in preproduction with a small team since the announcement.

Preproduction tends to take two or three years, but if it's a huge game and the team is relatively small because the studio's primary focus is elsewhere (Starfield) then it'll take longer to start ramping up.

Gotta write the scripts at some point

[white phoenix]

...and Half Life 3 is still not released

[hasty patio]

I suspect the main plot and scripts are done. Lots of side stuff, rigging, and the like probably aren't and need the extra hands to make it go.

[mossy flume]

PMD fans:

Yeah, side quests are often written during primary production

Once you actually have the skeleton of the world you're building, you then have the sandbox in which to make those side quests in the correct context

[fresh bane]

this sure is one fun game man

I remember unlocking the final color for this character and thinking ''please be a redhead please be a redhead'' and it was

this has to be one of my favourite tracks from this game, at least from the ones I unlocked so far

the vibes are immaculate

[river veldt]

yeah :(

[chilly mural]

are Mina and Kirishima a thing in BHA? they have cute chemistry and I stopped reading the manga during the la brava arc

[thorny loom]

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2183650/MEGA_MAN_X_DiVE_Offline/

Steam

MEGA MAN X DiVE Offline

Mega Man X DiVE reimagined the world of the Mega Man X series, and now it's getting an offline version!

Price

$29.99

Release Date

Aug 31, 2023

▶ Play video

Wow first new X game in a long time

[gaunt marten]

Can't wait for the next Mega Man Legends

[fresh bane]

https://youtu.be/_871izU8Fpg?si=VhvJ2Le0z6sPYVyI

''You can't fix her, but she will fix you''

[chilly mural]

so true

[gaunt marten]

Boneraiser Minions now has a 100% achievement https://i.imgur.com/KjdJHty.png

Hopefully that means they'll stop making new achievements

[robust steppe]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-66639477.amp

[dense crypt]

finished the first route of AC6

what a fuckin great game

[grave tide]

When AC was Assasin's Creed

But became a Armored Core

[dense crypt]

[mossy flume]

Animal Crossing fans:

[dense crypt]

you've already eaten wait yo turn

[mossy flume]

Reminder that the Super Mario Bros. Wonder Nintendo Direct is in a few hours.

https://www.youtube.com/live/G0m_uNaSres?si=IiFG3VFVQpMw_1f4

[slim thorn]

fortunately Animal Crossing and Assassin's Creed both use subtitles instead of numbers these days

and Armored Core has a subtitle but everyone chose to say AC6 instead of AC:FoR, which at this point feels like tricking people into asking which AC is part of the point

[wind stump]

EXACTLY

[slim thorn]

AC:NH, AC:NL, AC:U, AC:O, SM:O, AC4:4A, AC6:FoR, totally unambiguous

[thorny loom]

https://x.com/genshinimpact/status/1697096889085186378?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Genshin Impact (@GenshinImpact)

Happy Birthday, Mona!

"Happy Birthday, Mona!"
"It—It's you guys! You mean it's a gift, for me!?"

Participate in Mona's birthday event: https://t.co/IE9DuMJVMg

#GenshinImpact #Mona

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Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 4:00 AM

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Borderlands (@Borderlands)

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Nothing from TT wonderlands however

@wind stump nerd

[wind stump]

neat

This is a vaguely familiar wea pon
Not the one I was thinking of (the one i was thinking of was the Nameless Blade which is your starter weapon in Replicant) but it's pretty close.

oh good the hacking minigame is becoming hell

[thorny loom]

https://www.callofduty.com/blog/2023/08/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-warzone-anti-toxicity-progress-report

Oh boy. Ai powered voice chat monitoring software looking for bad words

[wintry canopy]

I just got to Platinum Tier 3 in master duel.

[river veldt]

8 minutes !!!!!

[young creek]

oh good timing

i just came home

heres the link to the stream thats ahead https://www.twitch.tv/nintendo

[river veldt]

epic

what animals will the other characters be do you think

[young creek]

Daisy will be a rat

[river veldt]

i think Luigi will be a giraffe

[young creek]

Bowser is in this?!

bowser is gurren lagann in this..

[river veldt]

Flower Kingdom

[young creek]

the music is so good

[river veldt]

true

i like Yoshi's new design, it's very reminiscent of his design on the Super Mario World cover art

[young creek]

everyone looks better now

no one make elephant peach fan art

[river veldt]

these are so cool

mario goomba lol

[young creek]

good name

[river veldt]

hooray

im so excited

[heady bridge]

Should be Elephant Daisy art instead

[wind stump]

I can run AHiT on max settings with little fuss!
I know that doesn't sound like much but YAAAAS MY RAM IS POWAH

[harsh kestrel]

I loved what I saw with Mario Bros Wonder

[thorny loom]

So is this only wonder being shown today

[harsh kestrel]

It's short, sweet, and to the point about the gameplay and the changes to expect

[white phoenix]

Starfield review embargo lifts in about an hour

[thorny loom]

Then will see if it’s worth it or canceling orders time

[static bluff]

Very excited to see this.

[white phoenix]

Reviews are out

[slim thorn]

oh this should be entertaining

[teal cliff]

I'm gonna avoid all reviews and just play it on Gamepass

[white phoenix]

IGN gave it a 7/10, game informer a 8.5

[arctic fern]

i suspect we need a starfield thread tbh

[white phoenix]

There is I think

[arctic fern]

OUCH

[rugged flax]

Review embargo is lifted
People are already streaming the game
Come on over to #1117577147167539220 and join the rest of us

[slim thorn]

"doesn't even really get going" until after the main quest 130 hours in

[static bluff]

Wooooooooow..............

Man, how disappointing.

Welp, I can stop watching PC building videos now. No need for one.

[arctic fern]

im gonna wait for user reviews anyway, maybe watc someone else play it for a bit

[white phoenix]

Oh no

[arctic fern]

i wasnt joking about this btw
for a game as hyped as this, from a company like bethesda, you'd expect 9's atleast, even if they had to buy those 9s

[static bluff]

Yep, that's my thinking as well

[arctic fern]

tho these reviews are worth nothing tho, we all know new vegas got a metacritic score of 84% and thats just factually incorrect

[rugged flax]

meh
I don't trust reviews from big places like IGN and GI
I want the individual end user experiences
not those who had press preview copies

[static bluff]

I don't trust any_one_'s review

[peak mesa]

Without any context, does Starfield live to expectations?

And was the wait really worth it?

[static bluff]

That's waht we're all asking ourselves this moment.

[quiet swift]

I think expectations of it were trending towards cyberpunk/no man sky levels

[white phoenix]

At least the reviews so far have said it's indeed their least buggiest game yet?
Queue the millions of bugs people will find on release

[rugged flax]

TheVerge's review of the game is good

[arctic fern]

their least buggiest game yet
high praise indeed
i dont belive it in the slightest tho

i'd buy it now just for the novelty factor

[rugged flax]

The Verge's review:

Starfield is polished like no game from the studio before

[static bluff]

heh

[white phoenix]

You just know that the hardcore bethesda gamers will immediately stumble upon the most game breaking bugs of all time

[arctic fern]

i dont belive it
literally incapable of trusting that news

[thorny loom]

Bethesda knew they couldn’t fuck up after how bad the fallout 76 launch was

[static bluff]

i mean that's fine if exploits are found. Those are fun.

[rugged flax]

I posted The Verge's review in #1117577147167539220

[white phoenix]

Also microsoft needed this to be good

[thorny loom]

Yep

[peak mesa]

Is this the rise back of Bethesda after Redfall?

[thorny loom]

We dont talk about redfall

[rugged flax]

Starfield has been Todd's baby from the beginning
He wasn't gonna let it fail

[thorny loom]

That was probably just something MS made them push out to try and get a live service game going

Not even the bethesda dev team wanted to work on redfall lmao

Now ill be able to finally put that game pass sub to use and play starfield

[quiet swift]

Redfall was greenlit when Bethesda was still part of Zenimax, and they were chasing the loot/shooter trend. Then Microsoft acquired them and were fairly hands off, then pushed them to release it early 'cause it would be a waste to put any more money in its development. That's what I've gathered

[little badger]

https://twitter.com/wario64/status/1697288775968174478?

Wario64 (@Wario64)

Volition Games is closing, effective immediately https://t.co/Dob9NBW7He

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Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 4:42 PM

[bleak lintel]

I believe Zenimax also pushed Redfall out of the original design and the studio kind of lost all passion for it. Arkane are very talented and Redfall is a case of a publisher ruining the game.

[quiet swift]

Yeah, because the folk who did Prey and Dishonored are clearly the people who need to make a loot shooter

[teal cliff]

this is one of the worst parts of all the consolidation happening in the games industry rn

larger groups just buying up smaller companies, fucking them up and dissolving them

[arctic fern]

man that genuinely sucks to see

[teal cliff]

then shuffling their IPs and talent around

Then again, in the last decade or so we've seen developers starting to take back some of that power

Like, Bloodstained ROTN is a great example

developers basically making another game in their series without the IP and it still being really good

[wind stump]

GOD
FUCKING
DAMMIT.

[visual hill]

cries in Red Faction

[thorny loom]

Probably has to do with the saints row reboot being a flop

[green fulcrum]

Welp, sounds like Baldur's Gate 3's position as "best RPG of the year" and possibly "game of the year" is solidly confirmed.

[thorny loom]

Rpg of the year yes

[river veldt]

im confused isn't 7/10 a pretty decent score

[thorny loom]

Goty. Will depend probably of Mario Wonder

[green fulcrum]

Decent, but not nearly enough to beat BG3's 9.5/10s and 10/10s.

[slim thorn]

video game reviews have a big problem with score inflation

[thorny loom]

7/10 is generally seen as where the game is just okay

Or the start of

[mossy flume]

I would trust GI scores more than IGN, personally

[rugged flax]

BG3 has a 96 on Metacritic
I don't think anything is beating that

[mossy flume]

But they’re merely just approximate thermometers

[river veldt]

my current goty is TotK, but Super Mario Bros Wonder may take the title for me idk yet

[slim thorn]

...TotK was this year

what even is time

[green fulcrum]

1 to 4 is generally considered "bad", 5 to 6 is "serviceable", 7 to 8 is "good", and 9 to 10 is "damn near perfect".

[teal cliff]

the game of the year is Goodbye Volcano High

[slim thorn]

I thought 1-4 is "so bad we normally wouldn't be reviewing this but"

[thorny loom]

Visual story maybe

[teal cliff]

Typically major publications don't give 1-4s unless something straight up doesn't function

[thorny loom]

Totk came and went after like a month or two.

[grave tide]

I don't think that Obsidian or BioWare have possibility to make a game which will be better as "best RPG of the decade"

[visual hill]

nice to see Quake 2 so high

[grave tide]

Especially Bioware

[teal cliff]

Bioware definitely could.

[rugged flax]

https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/year/all/filtered
oh hey look at that
TotK tied BG3

[teal cliff]

just depends on the direction they take

[random steppe]

Legit impressive this doesn't seem to be a buggy mess on release

Knowing Bethesda

[river veldt]

what the fuck Prime Remastered was this year

[harsh kestrel]

Watch Mario Bros Wonder somehow sneak it's way up there lol

[thorny loom]

Its telling some of the best rated games are all just remakes or remasters of older games

Says something about the current state of the industry

[teal cliff]

its more about the process of reviewing a remaster, I think

[harsh kestrel]

I could see Mortal Kombat 1 also sneaking it's way up there

[visual hill]

Q2 remaster fixed most issues with the original game

[slim thorn]

at least TotK and BG3 are more "sequels" than "remakes"

[teal cliff]

Like you don't give the HD port of Tony Hawk's pro skater a bad score bc the gameplay of the first pro skater game is outdated

[thorny loom]

I know

[visual hill]

this was a bold move in many ways, most remasters try not to touch gameplay at all

it's also a free update on PC

[random steppe]

This year is definitely not the year you go "look at the sorry state of the industry" for me

[green fulcrum]

I honestly believe that it's gonna be BG3 vs TotK for GOTY this year.

[random steppe]

It's been an insane year

[rugged flax]

There's only a single game in all time on Metacritic that has reached a 99

[green fulcrum]

What about 100?

[rugged flax]

Nothing has a 100

[thorny loom]

It is if you look at all the attempted multiplayer titles

[green fulcrum]

Damn

[river veldt]

afaic this has been the best year for games since 2017

[green fulcrum]

What's the 99?

[rugged flax]

The 99 is Ocarina of Time for the N64

[thorny loom]

Single players are highest rated for a reason

[green fulcrum]

Deserved.

[grave tide]

I am waiting on TGA battle about People's Choice beetwen Genshitn ot Honkai Star Rail against BG3

[slim thorn]

even among indies, my favorite actually-released-this-year game is a sequel

[green fulcrum]

Very much deserved

[white phoenix]

2017? What did 2017 have again

[thorny loom]

Botw

[visual hill]

how to overrate a game 😛

[white phoenix]

I think 2004 and 2007 are more comparable

[grave tide]

This will be battle beetwen casino and game industry

[heady bridge]

Why not? If a product is rereleased in a certain year you are going to get compared to what is out at that time, you're expecting people to spend their money on a product, if the same money can be spent at that time on something better then you should make it clear to consumers if that is the case.

[visual hill]

out of the big 3 N64 games, OOT is the one I find the least interesting by a wide margin

[slim thorn]

but nearly everything I've played in 2023 came out before 2023, and I think that's normal for me, so I've never had much of a clue how the years compare to each other

[thorny loom]

Ironically this year we had some of the best games for a good while

[river veldt]

BotW and Mario Odyssey are the games i mean

[thorny loom]

And we had some of the biggest failures like redfall

[teal cliff]

Because it can be argued that if you're playing an HD remaster of a playstation 1 game that you should know what you're getting into before you buy it. The developers aren't promising remastered gameplay they're promising an updated visual port of an old skateboarding game.

[random steppe]

Some of the best games ever of you ask me

[white phoenix]

...and that's it, botw was basically a shoe in for goty

[teal cliff]

2016 was probably one of the better years for video games of the last decade

[gaunt marten]

The scale is 6 to 10.

[thorny loom]

Honestly im just happy BG3 got the triple a industry scared

[white phoenix]

I remember looking back on that year and noting that the nintendo games were basically it

[random steppe]

Armored Core 6 might very well be the best game in its genre

[rugged flax]

and only 4 games have hit 98

• PlayStation Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2
• PS3 Grand Theft Auto IV
• Dreamcast SoulCaliber
• Xbox 360 Grand Theft Auto IV
  https://www.metacritic.com/browse/games/score/metascore/all/all/filtered

[gaunt marten]

Just like how you wouldn't give an Uber driver less than four stars unless they actually fucking kill you.

[heady bridge]

To a certain extent but if you are expecting people to spend money on something not updated much of at all then you should make sure ton price accordingly, and some companies don't do that. You charge full price for a HD version of an old game, you should totally be compared with other games of the dame price at that time of release.

[teal cliff]

2016 had dishonored 2, xcom 2, civ 6, stardew valley, planet coaster, WoW: Legion, Dark Souls 3, Titanfall 2, Watchdogs 2, the Hitman reboot, Kirby Planet Robobot, HOI4, Killing Floor 2,

[river veldt]

and ??? BotW and Odyssey are like the best games ever

[thorny loom]

AC6 was a good revival of the series after a decade hiaatus

[visual hill]

THPS2 on PS1 is also the worst version, not sure why it's this high

[heady bridge]

I prefer Galaxy to Odyssey

[teal cliff]

Then you can rate a game badly on the concept of price vs value

but most studios rating remasters don't tend to do that

[visual hill]

Dreamcast version was much better, or even better, THPS2X on OG Xbox

[green fulcrum]

BG3 was a wakeup call for many, and now fans don't want to hear anymore excuses from lazy devs (they do exist) and greedy companies.

[white phoenix]

Because the quantity of goty quality games that year wasn't very large, because those 2 were it

[teal cliff]

there were more good games that year

[random steppe]

Botw had to fight for GOTY in 2017

It wasn't an obvious pick at all

[teal cliff]

Resi 7 and Horizon Zero Dawn were the stiffest competition

[random steppe]

Nier Automata, re7, horizon zero dawn

[teal cliff]

Resident Evil 7, Hollow Knight, Night in the Woods, Heroizon Zero Dawn, Cuphead, and Mass Effect Andromeda came out that year, lots of great games ^^

[heady bridge]

in 2017? Umm, that year had Sonic Mania, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, Divinity: Original Sin II, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Rez Infinite, Cuphead...

[green fulcrum]

What. Nier Automata was from 2017?

Christ, I'm old. I thought it was from much earlier.

[teal cliff]

Oh was div 2 that year? Thats crazy

[white phoenix]

...huh it also had persona 5

[teal cliff]

2017? No it didnt

that was 2016.

[heady bridge]

The PS4 port yeah

[random steppe]

hollow knight

[white phoenix]

Worldwide release yes

I always thought it was 2016 too

[green fulcrum]

F`CK, yes, D:OS 2, Sonic Mania, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, and Cuphead! Jesus, so many good games in 2017. We were feasting.

[river veldt]

yea

[wind stump]

We just lost Volition Games though!

[random steppe]

2017 was also very good yeah

[teal cliff]

2017 was better than 2018

which mostly just had Spider Man and Monster Hunter World

Though 2019 picked up afterwards and had a lot of good releases.

2019 was a killer year looking at it.

[heady bridge]

My GOTY of that year is Xenoblade Chronicles 2, yes it's deeply flawed, yes it's the weakest of the 3 mainline Xenoblade titles, and I don't care I loved that game and it got me back into JRPGs in a big way. Torna is an incredible DLC expansion though, arguably better than the main game in many ways

[wind stump]

funny how 2017 and 2023 share a Zelda game

[teal cliff]

2019 had Control, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Outer Worlds, Resi 2 remake, Mortal Kombat 11, Death Stranding, Remnant from the ashes, Kh3, Borderlands 3, pokemon swsh,

dmc5

[river veldt]

Link's Awakening remake

[teal cliff]

2020 had Hades so everyone else can go home

[river veldt]

i liked Minecraft Dungeons

[teal cliff]

2020 did have other good games but like, it's a good year off of Hades alone.

[thorny loom]

Launch title and swan song for its respective console ironically

[wind stump]

Huh

[river veldt]

i think hades is just ok

[thorny loom]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swan_song

[teal cliff]

Though 2020 did also give us New Horizons, Spider Man Miles Morales, Crash 4, Nioh 2, Astro's Playroom, Bugsnax

[slim thorn]

lol, I think KH3 was the only one of these I played in 2019 (I've since played Outer Worlds and RE2:RE and Death Stranding, maybe someday Three Houses)

[quiet swift]

https://www.watchmojo.com/articles/top-20-best-years-in-video-games

[teal cliff]

In 2019 I played Fire Emblem Three Houses, Outer Worlds, MK11, Pokemon, and Bl3

and boy did I play fire emblem lol

it was my first FE game and I put like

100 hours into it the first week I had it

[random steppe]

Good, now maybe they will form a new company and stop remaking the same game for the last 10 years and make something new.
Sorry never thought Saint Row was ever especially enjoyable, Red Faction wad easly their best and most original work.

[teal cliff]

I did not sleep when I got that game

[quiet swift]

Simply put, it doesn’t get any better than this. No other year had the absurd amount of industry-shaping releases the way 1998 did. From Nintendo, we got the near-perfect “Ocarina of Time” as well as North American releases for the original “Pokémon” games. PlayStation saw the seminal sequels “Resident Evil 2” and “Metal Gear Solid.” Over on PC, “Half-life” turned Valve into an adored developer, while “StarCraft,” “Baldur’s Gate,” and “Grim Fandango” are still some of the most beloved entries in their genres. There were also a ton of games that, while not groundbreaking, were supremely fun to play like “Mario Party,” “Banjo-Kazooie,” and “Spyro the Dragon.” It was a marvelous time to be a player.```

[river veldt]

OoT and Half Life in the same year

holy hell

[teal cliff]

lol

[slim thorn]

ironically my first FE was the first FE released in English, and I only got through maybe half of it

[teal cliff]

I've never played any of the ones older than awakening

nor do I want to, they dont have the best parts.

[rancid herald]

Nintendo and Valve should make a game together

Legend of Zelda: the Half Life Princess

[teal cliff]

I would unironically pick any year in the last 10 years over 1998

[slim thorn]

I'll probably get to Awakening eventually but atm that's a thing I do with Tale and she's been busy lately, we've "only" made it through three FEs so far

[teal cliff]

I'm glad I played Awakening on PC and not original hardware so I could mod it easily

otherwise the game has almost zero same sex support conversations because all the supports existed for the stupid child mechanic

[slim thorn]

...I'm so sorry

[thorny loom]

Lmao

[teal cliff]

I play Fire Emblem as a lesbian shipping simulator.

[slim thorn]

until approximately last year I was unaware that was a thing

now I am extremely aware

[teal cliff]

That's my issue with most games inspired by FE

They take the tactical gameplay, which is cool, but they dont take the support system

[river veldt]

ive never played a Fire Emblem

the one on GBA is on NSO

[teal cliff]

The support system is why I'm here!

[slim thorn]

maybe you want a visual novel then?

[random steppe]

Are there good non Switch fire emblem inspired titles?

[teal cliff]

I mean, I like making my characters fight stuff.

[teal cliff]

Triangle Strategy

Triangle Strategy is to Fire Emblem what Octopath Traveler is to Final Fantasy if you're famliar with Octo

[river veldt]

octopus

[slim thorn]

there are some visual novels with a gameplay component, how stuff gets classified eventually comes down to the emphasis, e.g. if you regularly go 10+ hours without any gameplay it's probably a VN (and I've read/played multiple excellent VNs like this)

[teal cliff]

Give me one visual novel where I can matchmake all the other characters. Also I do like the sections with combat they're just something to do in between making my units kiss.

[random steppe]

I should try triangle strategy when it's not the literal "all my most anticipated games are releaseing now" month

[slim thorn]

ok that's fair

[teal cliff]

I guess september is a big month for releases

Starfield, Lies of P, Payday 3, Mortal Kombat

[little badger]

I enjoyed it but it wasn’t for everyone.

[quiet swift]

How old are you, if I may ask?

[gaunt marten]

Silksong

[teal cliff]

silksong? releasing? incredibly funny

[teal cliff]

about 23

[little badger]

Yeah i enjoyed the games

[quiet swift]

That explains it then

[slim thorn]

speaking of goty indie sequels

[little badger]

[teal cliff]

yeah Im not using nostalgia goggles to judge games from the 90s as peak

[slim thorn]

like B2 I probably won't realize Silksong is actually coming out for realz this time until one day before it happens and someone here mentions it

[quiet swift]

Not so much nostalgia, but I did play a lot of those at the time. And there were a lot of great games at that time so I don't really see fault in 1998

[green fulcrum]

Denzy's been playing that one, and I've seen a playthrough of it. Simply put, the story is actually spectacular, with everyone being very well-written and every character feeling unique. The choices you make in that game do matter, and very drastically change the game's ending and even the entire plot as you progress through it. As for the combat, it's very much like Shining Force, which is one of the main reasons why I want to get it myself. I love the Shining Force games, and I consider Triangle Strategy to be a perfect successor.

[random steppe]

Lots of the 1998 titles are definitely games that are harder to enjoy going back
MGS, Resident Evil 2, and Starcraft for example if I never played them I probably would not be able to get past how 1998 they play.

[slim thorn]

is Triangle Strategy one of those squeenix games that everyone who plays it loves but they basically forgot to market it so the rest of us keep forgetting it exists?

[green fulcrum]

You could get Starcraft: Remastered. It's classic Starcraft but with a modern look, and frankly, that's enough. It's a great game all on its own.

[green fulcrum]

It very much is a hidden gem from Square Enix.

[quiet swift]

Or the Carbot starcraft skin

[green fulcrum]

YEEEESSSSSSS

[uneven epoch]

think octopath traveler

its like that

[green fulcrum]

Yeah, basically

[quiet swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DCcg8XUh3tY

[green fulcrum]

Same art style too

[teal cliff]

well its the same studio

[slim thorn]

I had the unusual experience of playing RE2 original and remake back to back both for the first time, and IMO both are great but the original had some pretty serious jank that's a complete non-issue with the ahem modern camera+controls of the remake

[gaunt marten]

You'll be interested in the podcast series called The Video Game Required Reading List, which is an attempt to look at videogame history and listing the 25 most industry-defining games that will help you form the best understanding of what shaped today's videogames.

[random steppe]

Starcraft Remastered still play kinda like 1998 tho, the pathing is pretty aids and the only reason it's acceptable is that it's like the original one and we love it the same way a mother love a ugly son

[fresh bane]

What do you mean by how 1998 they play exactly?
OG RE2 is funnily enough one I haven't played all the way through but having played og RE3, RE1R and MGS1 all the way through I can honestly say I loved them

Maybe it's just tastes I just never had issues with those games

[green fulcrum]

Tbf, South Korea is the reason why Remastered plays the same as the original, because they are still leaders in the Starcraft e-sports, and they would've boycotted the game if anything had changed in the AI.

[random steppe]

Tank controls are an acquired taste

[slim thorn]

in particular, some of the RE2 final boss fights literally did not work for me in the original game

[teal cliff]

MGS1 has some... controls.

[slim thorn]

you can't say that out loud

[fresh bane]

MGS1 is fine though? what's weird about its controls?

[slim thorn]

oh boy

[random steppe]

Listen, it's good for a ps1 game

[slim thorn]

it's been too long since I played the MGSs, I'm not getting into that one lol

[teal cliff]

That qualifier at the end is exactly why I think its unfair to give best year in gaming to 1998 lol

[random steppe]

I wouldn't say its good good

[gaunt marten]

Yes. It might not be that fun to play now, but it's shaped the history of videogames.

[teal cliff]

"For a ps1 game", so they have a lower standard

[gaunt marten]

Episodes:
https://www.themcelroy.family/2022/7/12/23205212/the-besties-the-video-game-required-reading-list-1985-1989-resties
https://www.themcelroy.family/2022/10/4/23387094/the-besties-the-video-game-required-reading-list-1995-1999-resties
https://the-besties.simplecast.com/episodes/video-game-required-reading-list-2000-2004-besties-resties
https://www.themcelroy.family/2022/5/31/23148396/the-besties-the-video-game-required-reading-list-2005-2009-resties
https://www.themcelroy.family/2022/11/29/23483658/the-besties-the-video-game-required-reading-list-2010-2014-the-resties
https://the-besties.simplecast.com/episodes/the-video-game-required-reading-list-2015-2020-the-resties

[fresh bane]

First time I'm hearing these types of opinions honestly so it's a bit surprising for me

[random steppe]

I think it's extremely fair, all those games are exceptional, and they did chart the direction of the gaming industry in pretty seminar ways.

Also controls isn't the only part of a game

[teal cliff]

They were important to what came after them, but is it fair to call them the best because of it?

[river veldt]

MCELROYS MENTIONED 🥳🥳🥳

[white phoenix]

The Twin Snakes remake on the gamecube had the mgs2 controls instead, and it made it super easy because you could easily snipe everyone with your pistol from afar

[teal cliff]

There are better games released afterwards that built on what those older games did

[fresh bane]

We don't talk about Twin Snakes

[teal cliff]

and I'd much rather play most of those

[random steppe]

MGS 1 writing might still be top 10 writing of all times, Starcraft 1 was still when Blizzard was good at telling stories, etc5

[gaunt marten]

I played Ocarina of Time this year and I still think it deserves its metacritic rating as the top of all time

[teal cliff]

I can't judge LoZ games because I haven't really enjoyed any of them.

[random steppe]

Also to be clear, while the controls are a barrier, it doesn't mean they aren't functional once you learn them.

They just aren't intuitive because they don't fit standards that were set years after they came out, but that doesn't mean they are bad.

I just understand why someone wouldn't be able to overcome that barrier in 2023.

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, I listen to their podcast regularly

[random steppe]

Except Starcraft pathing

That's bad

Try to control 7 dragoons in tight corridors and come back to tell me it isn't

[fresh bane]

For tank controls I can maybe understand because weak people get filtered by them (this is a joke)
but putting MGS1 in there too is surprising to me because it doesn't even have tank controls so it surprised me

Hell I think the VR missions are a ton of fun I completed all of them when I put MGS1 on my PSP

[slim thorn]

tank controls are in an especially odd position when it comes to revisting old games because they're almost inseparable from always-fixed camera angles in practice

often you can't get used to just one and then the other, it's usually both or neither

[fresh bane]

Depends on how old, there were some games that used one or the other and not at the same time but those were during the 2000s

like SH4

and people hated it funnily enough

[slim thorn]

right, I'm speaking vaguely of all the games I've actually played and think most people have played

there's always exceptions

[fresh bane]

Hey most people played SH4..

right?

[slim thorn]

oh I've never touched an SH after 1-3

[teal cliff]

Silent Hill 4 is worth playing.

[slim thorn]

even playing all of 1-3 was already a significant "retro gaming" time investment for me; all of this was long over when I showed up

[teal cliff]

but the controls are ass.

People usually defend it as like, survival horror is supposed to have clunky controls, which there's an argument for

[random steppe]

I think that mgs weirdness was more that you wouldn't do any of what you do in those games the way you do now.
The shoulder buttons for items, the stiffness of Snake and the inability to shoot on first person are all kinda weird for the genre as it is now

[teal cliff]

but it does feel really bad to use.

[slim thorn]

the argument I will make is that survival horror games often benefit from the player character having more restricted movement and multitasking than many other genres, e.g. even in the more-action-y Resident Evil 4 you can't move and shoot at the same time (which was a mind-blowing concept when I first played it because I'd never played older survival horror lol)

but restricted and clunky are two different things

[fresh bane]

I still hold the opinion that tank controls on a TPS is a genius idea and they shouldn't have ditched it

[teal cliff]

yeah I'd say Resident Evil is closer to restricted whereas despite Silent Hill games being great, their controls are often just bad to me.

[random steppe]

I love those games and I am happy we aren't doing tank controls anymore

[teal cliff]

resident evil 3 remake showed there's giving someone too much freedom of movement in a horror game though

dodge rolling master Claire can't take damage in that game

[fresh bane]

The Revelations games were very good but dammit thanks to those games the RE4 control scheme went away

[slim thorn]

I am happy that tank controls and fixed camera angles are no longer something imposed upon games by the technical limitations of pre-rendered environments, and therefore they only get used when the developer wants them

[teal cliff]

I think that pre-rendered backgrounds should make a comeback. They look neat.

[fresh bane]

I guess it's less about the age of the game and more about their design

[river veldt]

omg yes i remember marvelling at some of the backgrounds in Final Fantasy VII

[slim thorn]

in this case they're inseparable since probably no one would design a game that way in the modern era

I've long since forgotten exactly how MGS controlled, just the vague sense that nothing else controlled quite like it, and that that wasn't a good thing, and actively got in the way of me completing the games multiple times

until MGS4 that is, 4 was just great without any weird asterisks about age

[fresh bane]

discord decided to die on me, what I mean is that other MGS games also had that type of controls so I don't know how much age has to do with it

[fresh bane]

seems to me like that's just how they wanted to design the MGS games

[fresh bane]

MGS4 was when they started shifting into more action shooter gameplay than the more... tactical?? stealth of the previous games

[slim thorn]

well, I'm including the stealth gameplay in that assessment

whatever subgenre terms people choose to put on them

[fresh bane]

Oh no not about specific subgenres more the style of gameplay which was more of a third person shooter now unlike the previous games, they're all still action stealth games

[gaunt marten]

One game that did prerendered backgrounds recently that I liked is Tiny Echo

https://store.steampowered.com/app/629770/Tiny_Echo/

Steam

Tiny Echo

Might and Delight invites you into the ethereal world of Tiny Echo and poses the question – what lives do the little spirits of the undergrowth live?Before we delve further into Tiny Echo, we hope you don't mind us taking this opportunity to tell you about our latest game, the Tiny Multiplayer Online RPG Book of Travels! https://store.steampower...

Price

$14.99

Recommendations

356

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[fresh bane]

Playing Portable Ops which took a lot from MGS3's gameplay and playing Peace Walker which took a lot from MGS4's is like completely different experiences

[visual hill]

tactical espionage action

[white phoenix]

Think they actually changed "action" to "operations" because of the base building of peace walker and mgsv

[visual hill]

MGR would be tactional espionage shitposting

[wind stump]

tactical memeage action

[harsh kestrel]

2023 has been a pretty good year for gaming with all the big titles that have come out

[visual hill]

I haven't played most games that came out in 2023 (focusing on backlog instead), but I tend to agree

[white phoenix]

Pretty good is an understatement I feel

[visual hill]

2022 was fairly empty in comparison

[white phoenix]

Yeah especially compared to previous recent years

[visual hill]

GT7 was this close to being great, but I don't think a PC port alone would save it given the business model

(progression system is an issue too, even if someone managed to crack the game to let you bypass MTX)

[white phoenix]

Probably not helped by the pandemic
But now everything is coming out because the pandemic delayed everything

[harsh kestrel]

A lot to think of off the bat. Tears of the Kingdom, Street Fighter 6, Mortal Kombat 1, and Mario Bros Wonder. I know Diablo 4 and Baldur's Gate 3 are also notable

[white phoenix]

Re4, dead space, ff16, spider man 2

Also that harry potter game

That was this year?

[fresh bane]

Yeah, with Peace Walker you now had to manage an entire base and staff and you had to worry about money and not going too overbudget and min maxing how much you got by putting the correct people in the correct staff groups
with Peace Walker and MGSV I loved just looking up best ways to farm for S rank soldiers to fill up my motherbase with lol
for MGSV there were also guides for farming female soldiers for your staff

[teal cliff]

I think 2022 was a better year than 2023 so far

we'll need to see what else comes out

[harsh kestrel]

Spiderman Miles Morales was one of the very few games that kept me invested in the story all the way through. That's Marvel for you though lol

[fresh bane]

Hi-Fi Rush, Bomb Rush Cyberfunk, Armored Core 6

[slim thorn]

in my case, I've just made more time for video games this year, backlog and otherwise, so it feels like a better year even though I'm not playing most of the games people cite when talking about the year

[white phoenix]

Omg hifi rush was this year too

Tf

[river veldt]

Super Mario RPG remake !

[fresh bane]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-fi-hi-fi-rush-chai-808hifi-rush-808-gif-7853453101600203361

Should be nominated for GOTY

at the very least

[teal cliff]

So far for me 2023 has been Goodbye Volcano High, Diablo 4, Wild Hearts, Fire Emblem Engage, and Octopath 2, and I haven't finished any of those and I only really really like GVH

[harsh kestrel]

Oh yeah, Hifi Rush

[teal cliff]

wait that's a lie I finished Engage

[slim thorn]

oh are we listing what we played in 2023 now?

[harsh kestrel]

I never did get all the way through that game lol

[white phoenix]

I have an intense fear that it will get snubbed for a nomination due to how stacked goty is this year

[teal cliff]

I'm just trying to list games that released in 2023 that I care about

which has not been a ton admittedly

I just started Sea of Stars, maybe that'll be something

[harsh kestrel]

I even recently started playing New Super Mario Bros U Deluxe and I also got Super Mario 3D World + Bowser's Fury

[river veldt]

oh yeah Mario 3D World is super good

[fresh bane]

Even if it wasn't stacked I can see a game like HiFi not even getting nominated but I hope it does because it deserves it

when it came out a lot of us who played it pretty much immediately went ''yeah this is gonna be goty or goty nominee''

[mossy flume]

Oh yeah, Hogwarts Legacy was February.

Damn, this year has been a KILLER lineup

Pretty sad that they have no plans for any DLC expansions for Hogwarts Legacy =(

There's so much they could do

[thorny loom]

Lmao https://store.steampowered.com/app/990080/Hogwarts_Legacy/

Steam

Hogwarts Legacy

Hogwarts Legacy, ilk olarak Harry Potter kitaplarında tanıştığımız dünyada geçen, açık dünyaya sahip bir RPG oyunudur. Tanıdık ve yeni konumlarda bir yolculuğa çıkın, büyülü canavarlar keşfedin, karakterinizi özelleştirin, iksir üretin, büyü yapmada ustalaşın, yeteneklerinizi yükseltin ve hep olmayı istediğiniz büyücü olun. 1800'lerde Hogwarts'ı...

Price

$41.99

Recommendations

155575

Metacritic

83

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It went on sale as soon as you said that

[mossy flume]

Yeah, a sale started this week

[thorny loom]

Looks like gearbox is also on the chopping bloc

https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/report-embracer-has-made-layoffs-at-gearbox-publishing

[dense crypt]

Rip gearbox

[gaunt marten]

Oh yeah, Randy Pitchfork is no longer head of Gearbox

[dense crypt]

Fr fr ong?

[gaunt marten]

https://www.ign.com/articles/gearbox-software-new-president-steve-jones-randy-pitchford

[dense crypt]

still CEO

Whatever as long as he isnt beating voice actors and whatever else stupid bullshit he did before

[green fulcrum]

Wat.

[white phoenix]

Ceos and presidents don't abuse employees challenge (impossible)

[thorny loom]

Yeah randy is an ass

[wind stump]

Embracer group needs to burn

[gaunt marten]

They are not uniquely bad. Please stop playing AAA games

[wind stump]

I have a friend who gets on my ass for railing against AAA in general but the fact they shut down Volition has incited my need for arson

[mossy flume]

Embracer and Tencent are kinda messed up.

/shrug I mean it is silly to collectively dismiss AAA games based on specific complaints from specific games.

[wind stump]

I have been trying to not rail specifically against all AAA

it's proving difficult not to

but i am trying

[slim thorn]

I greatly enjoyed all the AAAs I played this year

the ones everyone gets mad about were never on my radar

[gaunt marten]

True. AAA games that I can't complain about exist. I just can't name any right now.

[wind stump]

like i dunno if NieR Automata is AAA but it's good and fun

[gaunt marten]

Same!

I played...

[river veldt]

same x2

[gaunt marten]

Ocarina of Time

[wind stump]

and uh
FFXIV

[slim thorn]

the distinction has been getting increasingly fuzzy as the capabilities of indie developers keep rising

[gaunt marten]

Divinity Original Sin 2

That's it

[river veldt]

the biggest AAA game i played this year is totk

[rose rose]

I think NieR is pretty AAA.

[slim thorn]

TotK, DS remake, RE4 remake are the ones I'm pretty sure came out this year and are AAA and I played

[gaunt marten]

I definitely want to play Tears of the Kingdom eventually

[river veldt]

it's so fun

[thorny loom]

https://x.com/genshinimpact/status/1697157287540851113?s=46&t=bVzXPIZvXYyJJoEkCfgMsQ

Genshin Impact (@GenshinImpact)

Version 4.0 Event Wishes Notice - Phase II

Dear Travelers, the event wishes "Gentry of Hermitage," "Farewell of Snezhnaya," and "Epitome Invocation" will be available on September 5!

See more details here: https://t.co/g5hAXCLELo

#GenshinImpact #Zhongli #Tartaglia

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Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 8:00 AM

[slim thorn]

and everyone has good things to say about BG3 and AC6 which aren't my thing but also aren't indie

[gaunt marten]

Looking through my history, it looks like I also played Skyrim and EU4 too.

[thorny loom]

Will probably wait a year then play it on yuzu

[river veldt]

oh i was just thinking of games that came out this year

uhhhh

ive played many then

[rose rose]

Hoyoverse is extremely AAA

(but also evil, so that tracks)

[thorny loom]

Genshin and honkai are probably best games on mobile

But PC nah

[uneven epoch]

ive effectively been playin one (1) game for a year now bc mmos are Just Like That

but im havin fun so all good

[mossy flume]

They’re gacha games so I refuse

[river veldt]

mmos scare me

[rose rose]

They have billions of dollars and thousands of employees. Quality is separate

[thorny loom]

Exactly. Mobile games with extra steps

[river veldt]

you always fear what you don't understand

[white phoenix]

Lol the earnings for genshin was insane on day one

Apparently they made back all their production costs in a day

[slim thorn]

let's not equate "mobile" with predatory business models, even if they're more common there

there's plenty of legitimately great mobile games with none of that nonsense, especially in the puzzle and point-and-click genres (although most of them eventually get PC ports on Steam)

[uneven epoch]

my favorite phone game is one thats defunct now n i keep it as apk n if my wifi happens to be on it breaks bc outdated

[gaunt marten]

Yeah equating mobile with predatory business practices is as bad as doing the same with AAA games

[uneven epoch]

but given im offline at work 90% of time n thats the only time i do play on my phone thats ok

[thorny loom]

I found an old mobile game i use to play and got that working on android emulator

[quiet swift]

Speaking of mobile games, pox on EA for making Dungeon Keeper into one

[thorny loom]

Ewww i remember that one

[quiet swift]

And the recent announcement for yet another mobile C&C

Gimme full games damnit, even AA quality, doesn't need to be AAA!

[slim thorn]

back to Hat in Time Death Wishes, warming up with Snatcher endurance again, does seem to be lag-free today, first try was a 2:46

I think I'm missing something critical to consistently dodge the red circle chain

[gaunt marten]

The game does have advanced movement mechanics

[slim thorn]

less vaguely?

remember I have no hats and it's just flat ground

[gaunt marten]

I don't remember

It's a silly jump and dash thing

You don't need any hats for it

It's difficult to execute and important for speedrunning

[slim thorn]

yeah I'm not attempting any speedrun tricks

[gaunt marten]

It's an intended mechanic

It's just hard to execute and never explained and you don't actually need it to finish the game

But you're doing the super difficult postgame special DLC

[slim thorn]

right, but the challenge here is in duration, this attack was in the base game

[gaunt marten]

This movement technique can help you move better

And thus dodge more effectively, rather than hoping you get lucky

[slim thorn]

do you remember enough to actually link something?

if not I should really focus on it

[gaunt marten]

Let me see

[slim thorn]

wait, are you talking about jumping out of a dive the moment you touch the ground for an extra speed boost?

[gaunt marten]

I don't remember.

Ah, yes

Dive boosting sounds like it

[slim thorn]

FOUR MINUTES

[gaunt marten]

Nice

[slim thorn]

don't care that counts

[gaunt marten]

I'm listening to https://youtu.be/5Y7ZtjiimNI to make sure

[slim thorn]

and yeah I was always trying for dive boosts though I'm pretty bad at it and focusing more on them would take too much away from noticing the reds are coming at all

[gaunt marten]

Yeah

[slim thorn]

boss rush would be more fun if the Conductor fight wasn't already a several phase fight

oh the part I kept dying on was his very last phase

[gaunt marten]

That's good

[slim thorn]

what got me was he has this weird keep away + stun move but uses it mostly in that last phase with the following enemies so being stunned automatically dooms you to taking a hit

there we go, got him on the first try now that I knew to watch for that

[fresh bane]

that looks so fun

movement based games like this are so good

you know it's good when there's full guide videos on how to do stuff

[white phoenix]

part of me wishes that nintendo eventually makes a 3d mario maker, because the stuff you see people do on mario odyssey is just insane

[gaunt marten]

It is fun

[fresh bane]

I am playing through Bomb Rush Cyberfunk pretty hard lately which is the only similar movement based game I can think of that I've recently played, it's not the exact same game but it reminded me of it because there's already guides on how to do movement stuff and guides on stuff the game doesn't tell you about which you'd be surprised

this game has a very ''find out by yourself'' nature where it doesn't tutorialize you heavily which is a nice breath of fresh air but there's also some important things it should probably tell you

[gaunt marten]

Reminds me a lot of Jet Set Radio

[fresh bane]

It literally just is Jet Set Radio 3

[slim thorn]

ok made it to the 5th boss

oh right, this boss

[dense crypt]

What game

[slim thorn]

probably not surviving

[mossy flume]

@white phoenix switching channels to somewhere that makes more sense; did my best to video the filters on these things, but it’s better in person

[gaunt marten]

Well if it was Jet Set Radio 3 it'll just be called Jet Set Radio 3

[river veldt]

i have no idea what game to play

i have insane choice paralysis rn

[gaunt marten]

Shovel Knight

[white phoenix]

I get the general gist of it through the video, that's pretty wild

don't even know how you would even begin to start implementing such a thing

[river veldt]

im going to play Terraria

[fresh bane]

actually ☝️ it wouldn't because the sequel to Jet Set Radio isn't Jet Set Radio 2 but Jet Set Radio: Future

[river veldt]

jet sad radio

[fresh bane]

I didn't mean it literally is JSR3 but it's not even trying to hide the fact that it's heavily inspired by it and it even has the composer of Jet Set Radio in the list of artists who worked on the track of this game

[river veldt]

what is jet set radio

[flint iron]

Old playstation series

[fresh bane]

which is fucking amazing
https://youtu.be/VwOixiP3cBU?si=IW9pFmlrXZ7-Ejwt

[slim thorn]

how the hell did I do that first try with one life and half health

[gaunt marten]

Good work

[river veldt]

yippee

does Terraria have workshop support

on computer i mean

[gaunt marten]

Yes it does

It also has https://store.steampowered.com/app/1281930/tModLoader/ and an in-game mod browser

Steam

tModLoader

Dig, Fight, and Build your way through the world of player-created mods on Terraria with tModLoader - this DLC makes modding Terraria a reality!tModLoader (TML) is an open-source, community-driven modification and expansion of the Terraria game that makes it possible to make and play mods. TML expands your Terraria adventures with new content to...

▶ Play video

[river veldt]

epic

is there a mod that just gives you everything

[white phoenix]

probably

[dense crypt]

What game

[slim thorn]

there we go, this is what I can do without lag

[dense crypt]

Oh i see

[slim thorn]

A Hat in Time, specifically the "Death Wish" DLC challenges

[gaunt marten]

You mean Journey Mode?

There's a ton of mods that give you everything

[river veldt]

ok

i will browse later

and i'll check out tmodloader

[harsh kestrel]

https://youtu.be/LmbLyjjkLjU?si=LcWeVfJgTxNsR5f2

I never even noticed this, but you can apparently play as the earliest Sonic prototype if you get the Digital Deluxe Edition of the game

[white phoenix]

bro is doraemon

[gaunt marten]

https://i.imgur.com/vPr2uaX.png

All done at 100 hours

[river veldt]

so how do i use tmodloader

do i just launch it in steam

[minor plover]

... they patched Dark Souls 1, and among other things took out the dogleg in the invisible pathway on the way to fighting Seethe, so you can just walk straight across that last section

[arctic fern]

Tmodloader is a modified terraria client
You just load it up like a regular game, yeah

[gaunt marten]

Yeah, just launch it normally

[slim thorn]

I am not good at finding these dang pages

[river veldt]

why is it takint so long

[arctic fern]

Do you have mods downloaded?

[gaunt marten]

I don't know. It does take longer to load the first time if your CPU is slow

Since it's basically loading Terraria plus a ton of tools that allow mods to work

[river veldt]

it loaded yippee

so if i subscribe to mods on the normal Terraria workshop it will be added to tmodloader right ?

[slim thorn]

the Killing Two Birds fight is so good and I'm so bad at it

[gaunt marten]

No you need to add mods to tmodloader through the in-game browser

I haven't modded terraria in a while so the details are unclear

[river veldt]

i see

[slim thorn]

ok Snatcher, I admit, I cannot beat this fight

if I had a checkpoint halfway through it then probably, but nah 10 attempts is enough

[green fulcrum]

RIP

[slim thorn]

maybe another day though, it is 100% fair and I just haven't figured out reliable dodge patterns yet

[fresh bane]

is hat in time really that hard?

I always saw it as a pretty chill game

[slim thorn]

it is until you get into the DLC "Death Wish" levels

which are called that for a reason

[fresh bane]

oh

well that explains it

[unreal idol]

Decided to switch to Mupen64 for N64 emulation and it's working pretty good

[slim thorn]

for example, the Death Wish I'm doing now is a base game level, but if I hurt any enemy I take damage

[gaunt marten]

Excellent

[unreal idol]

More specifically it's a front-end for it called Simple64

[gaunt marten]

We've been playing multiworld randomized Ocarina of Time at #1119170161518334004 and Bizhawk works great too

[slim thorn]

omg even the enemies hurting each other counts as damage to me

done, but I feel like I could do a bonus

[mossy flume]

For those who may be interested but aren't in the channel, #1117577147167539220 unlocks for early access in <t:1693526400:R>.

[rugged flax]

(plus however long our computers decide to take to decrypt and unpack the game)

[mossy flume]

Yeah that might take a while

About 120GBs

[visual hill]

Simple64 is pretty good, I just lament its lack of overclocking options

it's the second-most accurate option next to Ares, but not quite as demanding on the CPU

[gaunt marten]

Oh yeah

Overclocking is not something I'm interested in but I love me fast forward

[visual hill]

N64 games aren't known for their high framerate, so I always overclock if the gameplay is retained well enough (not necessarily perfectly)

to be fair, I've been doing that with some PS2 games, even

[gaunt marten]

That's correct. Ocarina of Time usually does okay, but slows down to 30ish FPS in large rooms

I still prefer fast forward

[visual hill]

OOT is 20 FPS out of the box 😛

[gaunt marten]

Well my FPS calculator must be getting it wrong because I'm getting 45FPS in shadow temple and the slowdown is noticable

Ah, I see

[visual hill]

I play with Ship of Harkinian anyway, which can be configured for arbitrary framerate

[gaunt marten]

It has 20 visual frames and 60 input frames

[visual hill]

seeing OOT at 120 FPS is worth it. 👀

[gaunt marten]

I can't use Ship of Harkinian because I'm playing Archipelago

It requires the original 1.0 ROM

[river veldt]

120 frames???????

[gaunt marten]

Ship of Harkinian is like the Mario64 on PC thing

But for OoT

[mossy flume]

The cool things you can do when you can recompile the game

[visual hill]

something's not right… 👀

(look in the top-left corner)

[fresh bane]

OOT in anything more than like 40 frames feels super weird

[visual hill]

oh also, the Perfect Dark PC port keeps on giving: https://twitter.com/Graslu00/status/1697314927000609240

Graslu00 (@Graslu00)

Perfect Dark port improvements over this past week:

• HUD no longer stretches at 16:9 and higher ratios
• Free aim now implemented for mouse & keyboard
• Many textures fixed
• Light flare effects "working"
• Classic weapons available in Combat Sim
• Cleanup & various crash fixes

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Twitter · Aug 31, 2023, 6:26 PM

[fresh bane]

but the pc port has been doing some impressive things with the game

who knows maybe we'll see a fan full remasterization of OOT now that the pc port allows for way more than emulation could allow

[visual hill]

some 120 FPS video, if your monitor is fast enough to display it at full speed

[gaunt marten]

My monitor is 20FPS

[slim thorn]

yay, I'm consistent?

[slim thorn]

I have no idea if I'm really seeing 120 fps here but it definitely looks odd

especially the backflip animation

[fresh bane]

crazy how the widescreen and the removal of the colored circles behind the items only showing the sprite itself makes it feel more 'modern' in a way

[visual hill]

also, stop the presses! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6BNHro0vSg

also has a sneakpeek of Newferno