#Breaking Bad & Better Call Saul

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frozen gale
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Breaking Bad & Better Call Sual

cursive isle
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I have lots of conflicting feelings about Chuck

coarse iron
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Breaking Bad & Better Call Saul

cursive isle
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On the one hand, what he did to Jimmy by blocking his entry into HHM was pretty damn awful, but on the other, he clearly had lots of mental issues and that makes me sad

cursive isle
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Very pleasant surprise seeing Gail

smoky spindle
cursive isle
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S4E6

cursive isle
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This montage with the line between Jimmy and Kim is making me real sad

cursive isle
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I already like this Lalo fellow

cursive isle
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Damn

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"It's all good, man"

smoky spindle
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Spoiler: || Saul Goodman appears in Breaking Bad ||

cursive isle
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Ixrec what is this reaction

static surge
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“Jesse we need to learn the power of friendship”

cursive isle
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Mike is such a good grandpa omgggg

cursive isle
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OH MY GOD ITS HANK

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OMGOMGOMOG

smoky spindle
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Idk walt you've been acting sus lately

smoky spindle
sacred shell
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Mike's my favorite character from either show.

cursive isle
smoky spindle
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yes i heard it actually works

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also, when they filmed that scene they actually killed all the actors including Bryan Cranston for realism, Bravo Vince!

pure sky
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I suspect people here might find it amusing to learn that one of the state house candidates in Albuquerque is using BCS-themed language in her election campaign.

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Instead of “Better Call Saul” it’s “Better Vote Kathleen”

smoky spindle
pure sky
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I didn’t say it wasn’t…

cursive isle
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I think it's funny

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Plus calling things cringe is in itself cringe

cursive isle
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Holy shit I just put it together that Nacho's actor also plays Vaas in Far Cry 3

smoky spindle
midnight wind
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Talk about tense

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ponee 💦

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whew

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my man wasn't sweating bullets dude was sweating rockets

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also we have the same name

cursive isle
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R u finally watching Better Call Saul

midnight wind
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No I just watched clips of it rdlol

cursive isle
midnight wind
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I actually love how over the course of the series Jesse 'outgrew' his junkie hip-hop persona into a more ''normal'' one

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by the end dude looks like this

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fucking badass

cursive isle
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Ye

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Full on gunslinger tbh

cursive isle
smoky spindle
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Cant spell better call saul without better

cursive isle
smoky spindle
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Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul made me want to apply to a university in New Mexico

cursive isle
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2 pictures

dusk cape
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Mr. White can make Blue, can you?

cursive isle
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Oooh Wexler v Goodman

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This is interesting

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Also $4million holy shit

cursive isle
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S5E8 holy shit I've never been more happy to see Mike in my life

cursive isle
zinc wagon
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Just finished watching breaking bad, enjoyed the show despite knowing a few spoilers prior

cursive isle
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Just now remembered what an idiot Ted was

zinc wagon
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how so

cursive isle
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Well

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I'm just thinking of that part when he tries to escape his house and trips on his carpet

zinc wagon
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oh yea lol

cursive isle
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He's like

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The complete opposite of Walter in that he does terribly under pressure lmao

zinc wagon
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and he's the guy skyler slept with smh

cursive isle
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Yea

golden heath
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I am on Season 2 at Episode 4 now in Better Call Saul

cursive isle
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Finally starting season 6 of BCS

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Totally legally

zinc wagon
cursive isle
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Listen I would watch it legally if AMC bothered to put it on Netflix

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It's not even available on AMC+ anymore lmao

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As a prediction

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||I really don't think Nacho is gonna live tbh||

misty timber
midnight wind
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alright so one of my friends shared a BB/BCS post and I don't know if I shared this opinion about Walter before

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But I always found it extremely weird how people praise Walter for being such a smart guy and such an evil genius

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Having not seen BCS, even in just BB, Jesse and Saul were infinitely more compelling and charming than Walter

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I always found Walter to be a frustrated, pathetic manchild with a short fuse and a huge ego, he's smart, but that intelligence means nothing if he doesn't have what it takes to put his ego aside

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The dude survived off of pure luck and I'm extremely surprised there's people who not only sympathize with him but DEFEND Walter rdsnrk I had nothing but contempt for Walt the entire show

cursive isle
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I have a love hate relationship with Walter

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Like on one hand I wanna root for him he's the main character and it's fun to see him succeed, but at the same time he kinda really actually sucks

midnight wind
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He's literally just a sociopath with repressed frustrations about living a normal life and never getting to be the huge chemist he always wanted to be

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''But he did it for his fambly!!!!111''
He literally admits himself he DIDN'T do it for his family, maybe at first, but once he got a taste of that drug kingpin life he never looked back, he loved it

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He loved being feared, being respected, he loved it so much he couldn't HANDLE being the one who obeys someone else's orders

cursive isle
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Yeah lol

midnight wind
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He had no issues with manipulating, gaslighting and even coercing others and even his own family

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The sparks of intelligence and confidence that Walter shows are ALWAYS preceded and followed by him fucking up or losing his cool

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Heisenberg is such a facade it's wonders how people respect and fear Walter's character

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Gus didn't have a facade, Gus was humane but even at his normal he was ruthless and cold, the Salamanca didn't have a facade, they were who they were

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Walter wanted all the pros of being a drug kingpin without any of the drawbacks, and the worst part is that he ended up being internationally recognized so the bastard got what he wanted

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For the rest of time Walter would be known as the biggest drug lord in all of American soil and in my opinion he deserved to be forgotten to time and shunned by his own family who he had no problems with manipulating

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If you couldn't tell, I really don't like Walter sweetiegrump and I think the entire show is about you NOT liking Walter, but a lot of people fall into the trap of ''he's the protagonist, so he MUST succeed!''

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that's why so many people absolutely seem to despise Skyler

coarse iron
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it is absolutely about you not liking Walter

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Breaking Bad is one of the few totally legit cases of Villain Protagonist

midnight wind
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''she's such a bitch! why can't she just shut up???''
Yes, the woman who has a newborn child and a disabled son trying to maintain a family now has a husband who has admitted to being into and manufacturing drugs, has lied and manipulated her before, but she gets mad once and now she's the evil one

coarse iron
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even Better Call Saul's arguable

cursive isle
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Anyways BCS is better because the protagonist is actually likeable

midnight wind
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the only reason why people dislike Skyler is because she actively gets in the way of Walters' success

coarse iron
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I think some people get sucked into the protagonist so thoroughly they fail to consider that the protagonist might not be the best guy in the story

cursive isle
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I liked Skylar because she reacted how any sane person would to her husband secretly being a drug lord ppenk

midnight wind
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It's a very fascinating look into how you can easily deceive and manipulate people by simply switching perspectives, if the show was from the perspective of Skylar, Walter would be seen universally as a monster

coarse iron
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I will admit that some of the parts where Skyler is telling him off or otherwise making her displeasure known are hard to watch... but that's not because she's wrong, it's because she's right and Walter doesn't seem to care

midnight wind
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But at the same time, while being fascinating, it's infuriating, because HOW can people ever make excuses and justify Walters' actions?

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Walter absolutely doesn't care, and that's the worst part, people actively use the argument of ''He's doing it for you and your family! She's such an ungrateful bitch!''

coarse iron
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suuubteeext RarSpooky

cursive isle
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Lol

coarse iron
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which admittedly becomes explicit text eventually, even Walter can't deny it forever

midnight wind
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I did it for me

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It's absolutely Walter lying to himself the entire time, maybe at the beginning he truly meant what he said and what he did

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He did stop, and he intended to stop for good once he made all that money

but once he started he couldn't get off that train

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how could you? after living such a boring life, after being such a pushover and dreaming of being something more, how could you ever give up that life?

coarse iron
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my read is that he believed his own words at the start, but even then they were never really true, he was deceiving himself right out the gate

midnight wind
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I believe he was honest at first, that he really was doing it for his family especially after the cancer diagnosis, but it only lasted for a short time, once he started to climb up that ladder, meeting Gus, getting involved in higher stakes situations, being offered a ''full time'' job as a manufacturer... yeah, he couldn't stop

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He COULD, mind you, he COULD have, but he didn't want to

coarse iron
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yep, the psychological can, not the physical can

midnight wind
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In any case, I just really don't like or respect Walter at all, I feel like he's easily the worst character in the entire show, not worst written, just the worst person in the show, and I have no respect for him because even his greatest feats come across as dumb luck and false bravado to me rather than cold calculated planning and execution

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Jesse and Saul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Walter

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Jesse is easily my favourite and the best in the whole show

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dude gets handed the worst cards in existence and he still endures all of it and achieves some sort of a happy ending, even if everything in his life went absolutely wrong and he had to abandon his family

cursive isle
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Saul is my favourite

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Jesse is a close second tho

coarse iron
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I like how my only follow-up to this is arguing that he's even worse than you're saying, because I believe the meth cooking was an ego trip right from the start

midnight wind
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Jesse's final scene in El Camino is easily one of the moments that tug on your heartstrings the most, the movie opens up and ends with Jesse driving but the circumstances couldn't be more different, the euphoria and pure madness and happiness and sadness of finally being free from that god awful torment and torture, against the calmness and acceptance of a new life and a new beginning, the worst is over, everything is going to be okay now and you can rest

cursive isle
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Jesse a good egg

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I feel like Jimmy is a lot of people's favourite after BCS

midnight wind
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The happiest ending is still a sad one, he still had to leave everything behind and start anew far far away (which is another nice contrast, the dryness and heat of Texas vs the coldness of Alaska)

cursive isle
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Yee

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Idk I think he'll have a good life up in Alaska

coarse iron
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it'll certainly be a normal one

midnight wind
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Jesse starts a new life up in the Alaskan woods, grows a beard, cuts down some trees and has a new son... he calls him boy

cursive isle
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Hmmmm

midnight wind
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God, Todd was such a piece of fucking garbage

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What a fascinating character, I don't think I've ever hated a characters' guts so much before

cursive isle
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Todd is a legit psychopath. Completely unfeeling

midnight wind
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Even the worst of villains in fiction at least have charm, they revel in the fact that they are doing something evil, they love it, they absolutely love watching people suffer and squirm, Todd? He's empty inside

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Todd is a pure robot with absolutely no feelings

coarse iron
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I like how his name is just Todd though

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it's like when the Cabin in the Woods monster board has this random "Kevin" on it with no explanation

midnight wind
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fucking Todd

cursive isle
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Lol

midnight wind
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The final boss in the game shows up, it's this towering gigantic disgusting creature that has done unspeakable things to everything it came across

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it's called Bob

cursive isle
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Yeah

midnight wind
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''oh that's Bob''

zinc wagon
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one thing i did hate about walt was his ego and unwillingness to swallow his pride

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like when hank was talking about walts assistant being heisenberg and how brilliant he was and walt couldnt keep his mouth shut ppenk

cursive isle
dusk cape
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Product definitely does not contain Methamphetamine.

cursive isle
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I'm still not sure why Kim and Jimmy wanna screw Howard over?

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Just because?

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S6E4 btw

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Omg it's Wendy

cursive isle
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Oh my god is ||Howard seriously challenging Jimmy to a boxing match||

cursive isle
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O h

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Well

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That really sucks

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I ||liked Howard||

cursive isle
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||There goes Lalo||

cursive isle
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Oh man ||it's really nice to see Walt and Jesse again||

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||Bryan Cranston really slid back into season2 Walter amazingly||

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Lmao ||the RV not starting||

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||It's so fucking weird hearing the name Lalo come out of Jesse's mouth||

cursive isle
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Good lord Kim's life sucks post Jimmy

cursive isle
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NOOOO HES BACK IN A DUMPSTER

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Oh god Jimmy's having his own Crawl Space moment

cursive isle
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Finished

cursive isle
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so

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Ive let BCS settle in for a bit now

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and I think it was really good, idk if it's as good as BB, but it's still amazing

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my thoughts don't go any deeper than that ppenk

zinc wagon
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what was ur favorite moment is BCS

cursive isle
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hmm

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I mean the chicanery moment was obviously amazing

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this moment really got me and showed how far Jimmy was slipping

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And I mean

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can I say Saul Gone? that's an entire episode and not a moment per say but it's still amazing

coarse iron
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personally I think BB and BCS are equally good, but with enough differences it's extremely valid to prefer one or the other

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a big one being that in BB the protagonist is undeniably an utterly horrifying dumpster fire of a person, while in BCS he's much more of a mixed bag

cursive isle
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yea Jimmy is much more likable than Walter

coarse iron
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but ironically, the one who ends up in literal dumpsters

cursive isle
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haha yea

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tbh I think Jimmy got the happiest ending possible for him

coarse iron
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agreed

cursive isle
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like yeah prison sucks and he's there for the rest of his life, but he's treated like a king and (probably) will be able to continue seeing Kim

coarse iron
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he realized that there was only one thing in life that truly mattered to him, and he sort of got that one thing back at least a little

cursive isle
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yee

midnight wind
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you know, when I first saw this scene, it was one of the few scenes where I totally agreed that Schyler was acting super irrational and like a bitch, but reading the comments... it actually makes sense

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Kinda, Hank wasn't really super tactful in his approach and that reeeaaally made her feel super uncomfortable and distrustful, I totally understand her reaction now

cursive isle
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I can't remember which season this is

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is this before or after Hank figures it out

midnight wind
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After, I think

cursive isle
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ya I googled it

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I really need to rewatch BB now

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and then rewatch El Camino

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and then maybe rewatch BCS

midnight wind
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I've never been a rewatch shows type of person

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I don't know why, but I wouldn't feel inclined to rewatch BB or el camino, not because they're bad or anything though cocothink

cursive isle
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BB is the best show I've ever seen so I kind of want to rewatch it agin just to see if I missed any cool details

midnight wind
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there's probably a bunch for sure

zinc wagon
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what i did when watching BB for the first time was read the wiki entry for the episode i just saw. it helped quite a lot

cursive isle
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og there's probably cool trivia and stuff yeah?

zinc wagon
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yup

cursive isle
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I'll have to do that on my rewatch

midnight wind
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don't know if she really did die at the end but I hope so, I never liked her celmao

zinc wagon
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I believe it's implied so

cursive isle
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rewatching BB rdawwyeah

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completely forgot how much Walt's life sucks at the beginning lol

cursive isle
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I fucking hate Jesse's parents so much

cursive isle
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fucking Ted

zinc wagon
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I hate Ted a lot
thanks for coming to my ted talk

cursive isle
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lol

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I also hate Ted

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man

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Combo was really great

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its both great and sad to see Saul 🥲

cursive isle
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omg it's Discord

cursive isle
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which is worse "happy birthday mr president" or Walt's assembly speech vote now on your phones

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"stay out of my territory" is just as badass the second time through as the first

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aaaand ||Combo's death still hits me hard||

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oh shit this is Gus's first episode

cursive isle
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omg Breaking Bad is 15 years old today!

zinc wagon
cursive isle
cursive isle
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very subtle Vince ppenk

cursive isle
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I think the weapons dealer guy from "One Minute" is my favourite side character

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he's just so great

cursive isle
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ANY HUELL FANS IN THE CHAT

twin kestrel
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meth

twin kestrel
cursive isle
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lol

sacred shell
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Better Fuel Huell

cursive isle
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oh this is why I remember hating Ted

cursive isle
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I think Crawl Space might be my favourite episode of the series

coarse iron
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the zoom out finale still haunts me

cursive isle
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its so creepy

cursive isle
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that Lily of the Valley reveal is still so good

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i love the Gordon Freeman look

cursive isle
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ok maybe Dead Freight is my favourite episode

cursive isle
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something i noticed is that on my first watchthrough i never stopped rooting for Walt, but on this watch during season 5 ive really started to dislike him and start rooting for Hank and Jesse to get him

cursive isle
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never mind penk

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i totally stopped rooting for him during Ozymandias

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I forgot how dark this episode was

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the scene where Walt kidnaps Holly and Skyler is screaming for him to come back made me actually upset

midnight wind
cursive isle
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gonna start describing myself this way

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Badger and Skinny Pete are such good friends

cursive isle
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fuck El Camino still makes me cry

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if anyone deserved a happy ending it was Jesse

midnight wind
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Walter deserved to rot in jail but most fans aren't ready for that conversation

cursive isle
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true

violet sable
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Btw I have started watching bcs before bb

dusk cape
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Good to know this thread works 😄

midnight wind
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BCS probably spoils a lot from BB

twin kestrel
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BCS is set before and doesn't actually spoils anything, but it references stuff from BB

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There isn't an order to watch them as the stories aren't directly linked, but if you know BB, you'll pick up stuff in BCS that you wouldn't pick up otherwise

midnight wind
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Doesn't the end spoil a lot if you didn't watch BB beforehand?

twin kestrel
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Oh fuck, haven't seen the last episode of BCS lmao

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And tbh idk, the shows are somewhat linked but they're two different stories

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I'll watch the last ep tonight and revise my thought

midnight wind
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others in here have probably seen all of BCS so they can speak better than me but I know that BCS does in fact spoil BB

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which is kinda why it's generally seen after BB

coarse iron
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conveniently, my family accidentally ended up testing this in both directions

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the short version is that both shows spoil each other a little, but to a degree that mostly just encourages watching the other show

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specifically, my dad and I saw BB when it was new, when BCS came out mom decided to join us in watching that, after which we all wanted to watch or rewatch BB together; some of the big pros we observed/discussed with BCS first are that you don't know ||when/how Gus dies in BB||, and when you get to BB ||Saul mentioning Lalo is way more meaningful||

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in particular, she's convinced that was the better direction for her even in retrospect, because BB is darker than BCS and thus was far less appealing to her before BCS got her to care about the cast

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so IMO it's entirely a personal choice which show you start with

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(just remember to watch El Camino after BB)

cursive isle
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Lalo

coarse iron
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sorry, there's a "Lazlo" in Planescape

cursive isle
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||Saul also mentions Nacho (Ignacio) when Walt and Jesse kidnap him||

midnight wind
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For a second there I thought you meant me because that's my name

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I tripped for a second there

cursive isle
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i have an intense urge to rewatch Breaking Bad

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for like

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the 3rd time

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i finished it literally a week ago why do i want to watch agian

midnight wind
cursive isle
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wait is this an ad for this year???

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omg it is

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awesome

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idk thought it was interesting

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smh Fly so lowly rated

midnight wind
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I kept getting notifications about it

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'''We got six signature flavors, yo''
''SEVEN, YOU MAKE SEVEN!''
''...seven.''
''Seven works.''

cursive isle
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super cool they got Raymond Cruz back

midnight wind
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He looks the same

golden heath
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I just can't get over about this scene

midnight wind
cursive isle
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good art

golden heath
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As I one time asked Google, it wasn't really helpful. So yes, I used ChatGPT asking about that specific thing, because I always wondered why, so yeah that probably makes sense

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One time I did used for a show like Breaking Bad.

coarse iron
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but is that true?

golden heath
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I mean idk, but as I googled once about it, there wasn't unfortunately really an answer about that but yes in Dead Freight, train horn is heard several times, so maybe there's something connected to it.

coarse iron
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isn't that the episode about the literal train?

golden heath
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yes

golden heath
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Damn, AI made this

cursive isle
violet sable
cursive isle
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TRUE

twin kestrel
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I'm Not the danger Skyler
I'm the danger

violet sable
cursive isle
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gonna rewatch Better Call Saul

twin kestrel
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I'm starting Breaking Bad again

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it's actually crazy that, even before he got into the business, Walt had already killed two dudes

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Like, guy just wanted to make money making drugs, but didn't account for the fact that people were gonna threaten him

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And when he finally got threatened (literally as soon as he started making meth), he just didn't have any adaptation period and went straight to killing to survive

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it's pretty rough

twin kestrel
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i'm at the fly episode

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i will not have a good time

cursive isle
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yes you will

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that's one of the best episodes

twin kestrel
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I didn't have a good time

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Good episode but I do not enjoy watching it

sacred shell
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I liked it (Fly) more when rewatching it than I did my first time watching it

cursive isle
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BCS s6 spoilers ||Nacho's death still hits me fucking hard||

cursive isle
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the happy birthday scene never gets any easier

zinc wagon
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when did that happen again

cursive isle
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s2e11