#Duplicates and deduplication?

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spice cargo
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Hello Immich experts! ๐Ÿ‘‹

I have been using Immich for almost a year, have it setup on an OMV and using it to view and backup photos and movies from my Iphone and my wife's Iphone.

One thing I've noticed when viewing photos is that we have soo many duplicates, essentially I cannot view any photos from a few years without scrolling through duplicates, it's like everywhere! ๐Ÿ˜ฉ

When I go to utilities, I often see duplicates and then I click deduplicate all and they disappear. I often go to my wif's account and check if she has duplicates to remove which she sometimes do, and then I remove them.

Then time passes and I yet again notice duplicates and I feel am I crazy!?! ๐Ÿคฏ

What is happening with duplicates? Is there some edge case that utilities cannot get rid of e.g. cannot see duplicates between my photos and my wife's? Or is something recreating duplicates e.g. our apps freak out and upload photos again?

Any suggestion on workarounds or behaviour changes that can resolve this?

slate pineBOT
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fiery raptor
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The deduplicate utility only works for one user, yes. If you have partner sharing with your partner's assets also showing up in the timeline the dedup utility won't fix that

spice cargo
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Feels like a pretty important feature though, especially in family situations like ours where my wife often wants me to send photos that I take so she can share on insta etc. Or are there reasons why deduplication should not remove duplicates across users?

fiery raptor
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I mean a pretty obvious one is that you need to decide on which side you want to delete pictures

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Partner sharing is one way (you need to enable it on both sides) so this can get really weird

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Whatever user A is doing shouldn't ever affect user B's library

spice cargo
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True, but I guess it also depends on how you view the library. For us, we have a family library of all photos, we don't necessarily distinguish if I took a photo of my wife of vice versa, it's photos for the family. Sure, we have photos that are not necessarily shared, but also not necessarily secret/private.

fiery raptor
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Then maybe just use one account?

spice cargo
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Good point, I'll look into that. Feels like it could come with a whole bunch of special consideration but maybe not. ๐Ÿ˜Š

I'll also create a feature request for it, must be others in same situation as me. ๐Ÿ˜Š

Thank you for the fast replies @fiery raptor! ๐Ÿ™

brave helm
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We have this covered already in feature requests under Better Sharing

fiery raptor
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At least I personally don't include dedup across accounts in that

brave helm
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I would. Itโ€™s about cross account permissions

spice cargo
slate pineBOT
brave helm
fiery raptor
fiery raptor
spice cargo
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They are related yes, I actually made a post to 9441 back in August ๐Ÿ˜Š Having read through 12614 I think a lot of it is covered there, some refactoring is desirable IMHO. The family use case is probably very common and there is always one party who is either more technically skilled or using Immich more that becomes family-admin. "Full transparency mode" would be good! ๐Ÿ˜Š

brave helm
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Thereโ€™s a lot of room for changes , but also a lot of different opinions and needs