i have been using digital camera since 1998 - a truckload of pics
#Been running immich for a while now, today it wont run 500connect EHOSTUNREACH 172.19.0.8:3001
wet bay
jagged sky
Other users want "take all these images and sort and organize them for me pleeeeeeeaase". That's essentially what library/ becomes.
wet bay
yeah i undertand that, but hey why deal with that workload? let immich do it
vale fox
Why should they go through the hustle of re-importing everything again if they already have that set up?
jagged sky
Yeah, if that is what you want I would just re-dump them all into immich again.
wet bay
i dont get the practice of attempting to manually file digital photos when they have metadata that lets you sort them instantly in retrospect
wet bay
Why should they go through the hustle of re-importing everything again if they a...
becuasse they will lose them
wet bay
for me its about 1 drive with ALLLLLLLL my pics that i know they are all there, all de-duped, and then i can backup that
vale fox
Do we want to do the cli import?
wet bay
interesting convo for sure 🙂
vale fox
for me its about 1 drive with ALLLLLLLL my pics that i know they are all there, ...
If Immich can solve this purpose for you that's perfect. Other users have different needs ;)
jagged sky
Afaik the most common reason is photos software solutions have come and gone over the years and some folks are tired of migrating and just want to manage it themselves.
wet bay
i just cant phathom how people can contemplate managing themselves with the sheer volume of pics
but yeah some do I guess
jagged sky
That and then some want to mount their volume specifically with :ro so there is 0% change the application deletes or otherwise messes them up
wet bay
maybe its becuase my library is 190,000 pics
jagged sky
I think the only feasible way is to do it incrementally, dump a new event in to a new folder, etc.
If you did that over 20 years you would end up with you "already organized" structure that you don't want anyone else to touch.
I personally am with you though. I'm not organized or disciplined enough and am perfectly happy with "here's all my stuff, make it pretty".
wet bay
If you did that over 20 years you would end up with you "already organized" stru...
exactly the opposite. i have NAS drives with shares of old hard drives with backups of sd cards and so on
i am 99% confident in 30 years of digital photography I have lost maybe only 1 or 2% pics
there is no way i coul dhave had the time to stick them in some structured order
like cameraname / year / month or whatever
the power of an app like immich is i can view by date or by camera type or by location instantly - so what does it matter the storage structure?
vale fox
Jason already mentioned that a little earlier
People are afraid immich will be discontinued
They don't want to bind themselves to one specific program (and the respective sorting)
wet bay
but even if it is - the library folder has them all there ready for the next app to injest
vale fox
That is correct, yes
vale fox
I think we can go on now... Many people have requested this feature and are now happy they can use it
If you don't need it, that's perfectly fine
vale fox
I don't get some things either ;)
Sometimes it's just as it is
Do you want to continue the copy of your SSD or do we want to do the cli import now - given that the files won't become lost
wet bay
I think i'll continue the copy.. its late here so I should get to sleep and I can tackle the import tomorrow
vale fox
Ok, sounds good!
wet bay
whioch should be super easy - one upload command with recursive should do the whole lot!!
vale fox
Yep
wet bay
and i'll be sure to turn ML off and all other stuff off
vale fox
Immich already up and running on the pi?
vale fox
and i'll be sure to turn ML off and all other stuff off
Yeah...
wet bay
i didnt try start it without the upload location in place
vale fox
Ah right
wet bay
"# The location where your uploaded files are stored
UPLOAD_LOCATION=./library"
vale fox
Yeah yeah
vale fox
Yup, that works
wet bay
or do i need the sd1 or whatever the drive is labelled
vale fox
Then you should also change the ./database path to something like e.g. /volume/ssd/immich/database
vale fox
or do i need the sd1 or whatever the drive is labelled
Oh yeah, the volume will be at sda1 probably
Generally, volumes are enumerated using letters, so SDA, SDB, SDC, ..., SDAA, ...
The number after that refers to the partition
So if your drive had multiple partitions you would have sda1, sda2, ...
wet bay
you mean change this to the actual path?
vale fox
The part before the :, yes
vale fox
Nah, I was assuming you would put the docker compose file in the immich folder
But apparently you're not
So it was an educated guess, not particularly a place holder
wet bay
the compse file is in the suggested location of /immich-app
should i put that on the ssd too?
that would make migration easier to the new machine when i get it?
vale fox
Yep
wet bay
ahh ok the doc doesnt suggest that
vale fox
the compse file is in the suggested location of /immich-app
I wouldn't put it at /immich-app though
The docs say ./immich-app, which is the current folder
While assuming you are currently in the directory where you'd like to have the library
wet bay
yeah thats the .
ok so for the new SSD you suggest another folder in here
called "immich" in which the .yml and .env files are?
vale fox
I would personally put all my files related to a service in one folder, yes
wet bay
ok cool yes that makes sense but I was not sure if the source code might assume some locations relative to the root
vale fox
Or well I don't, I acutally only use one compose file, but if you've only got one service, I would do it like that. And even for multiple applications, that's probably easier
vale fox
ok cool yes that makes sense but I was not sure if the source code might assume ...
Nope, that's why there is the env variable and you don't just change the path in the docker compose yml
The env is accessible to every component of immich
wet bay
if its all on the one drive then migrating to a new machine should be instant
vale fox
More or less
vale fox
That's the idea, exactly
wet bay
awesome
ok i will leave it for now - get some sleep and no doubt bump into you friendly types here later!
vale fox
Haha k
wet bay
many thanks for the help so far!
vale fox
No problem :)
wet bay
i am fast becoming an expert and that is half the fun
wet bay
ciao