Introducing: BS (The x86-64 operating system)

[sharp niche]

Damn what custom client you using? I don't get that shit on my discord

[marsh pollen]

vencord

well

dorion

which is discord in tauri

pretty nice

then vencord running in that

https://github.com/SpikeHD/dorion iirc

[sharp niche]

Oh I love tauri. Best multiplatform app development solution

[marsh pollen]

I love it

[sharp niche]

Yep

[marsh pollen]

I dont love the deps

[sharp niche]

Yeah hah no

[marsh pollen]

it takes 10+ minutes to build the android app....

[sharp niche]

I think 2.0 is alleviating some of that though

[sharp niche]

Oh wait lol 2.0 is the one that can build apps

[marsh pollen]

yeah

and the android one is kinda broken

for a while it couldn't actually call rust, it just crashed when you called invoke

they finally fixed tha-

we're still in bs

bruh

ok

[sharp niche]

given it's still in beta

i'm not using it for my project i've got until 2.0 drops

[marsh pollen]

they finally fixed that but now the http plugin is outdated and doesn't compile with the rest of the app

[sharp niche]

and then i'm never using anthing else again

[marsh pollen]

actually i think it's the fs plugin that the http plugin relies on?

idek

[sharp niche]

literally the perfect app development way

[marsh pollen]

I disagree; I'd much prefer a native app

native ui > web any day imo

[sharp niche]

Fair. Controversially, I think apples UI language and user interface interactions are by far the best overall

[marsh pollen]

swiftui?

[sharp niche]

as in like how their apps are styled and laid out

[marsh pollen]

oh

yeah I disagree

https://m3.material.io

this is my favourite

easily

material is just amazing

[sharp niche]

Oh I love swiftui it's development workflow was brilliant. I just wish it wasn't apple walled gardened

[marsh pollen]

apple's UI is nice at times but I don't think it's always organised very well

it does look kinda clean but it's also slow

[sharp niche]

Eh it's nice. but it feels like epoxy resin sometimes

and epoxy resin has a horrible texture

[marsh pollen]

also some stuff like the hidden search bar is goofy

epoxy resin?

[marsh pollen]

I hate it's syntax because there's like 15 ways to express the same thing, and very little is explicit like rust; also xcode is fucking awful

[sharp niche]

Like this. I would LOVE home assistant (The open source smart home thing) to have an app like this, it's soo clean

[marsh pollen]

but I do want to kind of steal it's design (roughly) for a rust ui library

[marsh pollen]

yeah I kinda disagree tbh
I find this a little tricky to navigate

like the chips at the top

are they filters or do they give information?

[sharp niche]

Isn't that literally what they tried to avoid with creating SwiftUI and moving away from Objective-C, although I bet that devs wanted their own version of the thing

[marsh pollen]

idek dude

it feels like a bad objc wrapper to me

and objc is already cringe enough

[sharp niche]

it's better if you look at the image in a web browser as opposed to trying to peer through discords compression

The chips at the top give info

like the climate one is showing temperature (in farenheit, i hate farenheit) and the lights on is showing how many are on

[sharp niche]

agreed

[marsh pollen]

I kind of like apple's glossy look

but I like the shapes from material more

[sharp niche]

I like it. Material is good but I find apples a bit more friendly.

UI design is EXTREMELY subjective

however

[marsh pollen]

and also the colours in material can communicate stacked elements and importance really quickly... which I find apple doesn't do

[sharp niche]

Fair. I'm still running an older version of android so I don't get to look at any of the materialUI, also because samsung insists on running their own Shitty UI theme.

[marsh pollen]

oooo noooooo

dude it's really cool

[sharp niche]

I feel like if I get a phone with it I might find it better

But I haven't had the ability to use it in anger yet

[marsh pollen]

like, I'm not immediately pulled to an important item in a lot of apple's designs. Navigation is the same colour as UI elements, for example. Whereas they have different shades in material, so I immediately know what UI elements are important and stuff like navigation fades to the back

lemme see if I can find this recording

https://youtube.com/shorts/CPKaqmtiwnM

this is really niche but cool

doodle changed my wallpaper every time I locked my phone and all of the icons automatically matched

[sharp niche]

I still think that apple has the best documentation for User interface guidlines

as in their User experience

[marsh pollen]

but so did the quick settings menu, settings app, and every app that supports it... which for me includes RSS, my manga reader, music player, and several other things

the sync is neat; either way what I really like is the UI guidelines

I'm not sure about user experience

but

[marsh pollen]

this has INCREDIBLE detail

about which font sizes to choose for different situations; different colours to use for things that are important, vs things in the background, vs errors and popups; general layout advice, for phones and tablets and computers

[sharp niche]

Oh that's very nice. Stuff like that takes AGES of user experience testing to perfect

[marsh pollen]

yeah. and it's pretty open ended and not always perfect, but... it's pretty damn good imo

[sharp niche]

Yeah one thing I don't personally like about material is colours. I'm pretty weird when it comes to colours

[marsh pollen]

hm

how so?

[sharp niche]

It's hard to describe

i'll try my best

[marsh pollen]

I did implement catppuccin material3 and I think it looks pretty good: https://beta.brightshard.dev

god i need to actually sit down and finish my website.

in settings you can click the catppuccin options to change the theme

also persists across reloads on firefox (with no js or cookies)

[sharp niche]

I don't know if it's just googles choice of colours but I really don't like the Contrast between them

[marsh pollen]

hm

I think the default one is a little too dark

I like catppuccin though it might be a little too bright

idk tbh

[sharp niche]

Like here's my VScode window, Yes you may recognize that code I just needed something to fill up an exampe for a picture no it's not staying. I really love the contrast between these colours. something about them sits right with my eyes

Helps if i copy the god damn picture

ffs

[marsh pollen]

lmao you may recognise

what theme is that?

I like that too actually

[sharp niche]

Github Dark

[marsh pollen]

ah

question, do you like gh dimmed

no active windows watermark

[sharp niche]

So that github dark mode code highlighting matches up with my text editor

[sharp niche]

Yeah, I bought a license

[marsh pollen]

the badge of honour

[sharp niche]

not full price lol. only cost me 10 quid

[marsh pollen]

is gon

I use https://massgrave.dev

wait

is that not the url

oh they just don't have an embed

yeah that's it

ironically hosted open source on github

[sharp niche]

Also the icon theme is called "Material Icon Theme"

I love it

[marsh pollen]

YES

it's really good

[sharp niche]

SO USEFUL

[marsh pollen]

literally cannot live without it

the defaults are so much worse

[sharp niche]

Yep

AAA I cycled through one of the light mode colour themes. MY EYES!

[marsh pollen]

💀

light mode gives me afterimages sometimes

well.

most things give me afterimages

:eawada:

[sharp niche]

Hmm that's gonna be a no from me chief. something just feels off I really can't put my finger on it

[marsh pollen]

interesting

that's what I used before cappuccin

[sharp niche]

Fair

Also favourite font?

[marsh pollen]

the regular dark felt too harsh on my eyes

[sharp niche]

for IDEs specifically

[marsh pollen]

oh

probably fira code; but just because that's kinda the default nerd font

I think I also really liked cascadia cove with starship

[sharp niche]

You're gonna hate me

[marsh pollen]

as long as you don't say comic sans 👍

[sharp niche]

SF Mono

[marsh pollen]

what's SF?

[sharp niche]

San francisco mono

it's apple's font

[marsh pollen]

never -

oh

[sharp niche]

God no. For IDEs it's gotta be monospaced

[marsh pollen]

wait is that the default xcode one?

[sharp niche]

It's the default apple one

SF is their font

[marsh pollen]

ngl

[sharp niche]

but it'll be SF mono for Xcode almost defo

[marsh pollen]

I don't disagree

[sharp niche]

I got it working in windows 11

as my VSCode font

[marsh pollen]

I (almost) quite like xcode's ui

it has

a lot of flaws

but it's almost really good

but i quite like this

ok bad code

but

the font and colours are actually really pleasing to me.

[sharp niche]

Yeah I use SF Mono in my Windows 11 terminal

come at me apple

[marsh pollen]

lel

[sharp niche]

It just feels so clean

[marsh pollen]

I agree

[sharp niche]

When I eventually switch over to linux I am totally gonna be installing San Francisco as my system font

[marsh pollen]

lol

[sharp niche]

I do not care for apples terms of service about their font

I'm not a content creator lol

[marsh pollen]

THEY HAVE TOS ON THE FONT?

bruh

[sharp niche]

"Can only be used within Apple's Oses" i'm paraphrasing

[marsh pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-explode-explosion-cats-kaboom-gif-5543609305179444322

that's wild.

[sharp niche]

IMPORTANT NOTE: THE APPLE SF PRO FONT IS TO BE USED SOLELY FOR CREATING MOCK-UPS OF USER INTERFACES TO BE USED IN SOFTWARE PRODUCTS RUNNING ON APPLE’S iOS, iPadOS, macOS OR tvOS OPERATING SYSTEMS, AS APPLICABLE from the installer

"B. Other Use Restrictions. The grants set forth in this License do not permit you to, and you agree not to, install, use or run the Apple Font for the purpose of creating mock-ups of user interfaces to be used in software products running on any non-Apple operating system or to enable others to do so. You may not embed the Apple Font in any software programs or other products. Except as expressly provided for herein, you may not use the Apple Font to, create, develop, display or otherwise distribute any documentation, artwork, website content or any other work product."

yeah it's only for creating UI mockups

[marsh pollen]

🗿

[sharp niche]

Fuckin irritants it's a good font aswell

[marsh pollen]

avg apple L

[sharp niche]

like they could just give out for free and No-one would care I doubt

[marsh pollen]

yup

I doubt is crazy

[sharp niche]

So uh yeah I defo won't tell you that you can open out the SF Pro Font .dmg file with 7Zip and the go into the folder labled SFProFonts and then double click on the SF Pro Fonts.pkg and the double click on the file labeled Payload~ and the open three folders called "\.\Library\Fonts\" you will just find a load of .OTF or .TTF files that you need to install

[marsh pollen]

copy... paste to notes server... and pin

[sharp niche]

that would break the TOS so I won't do that

[marsh pollen]

yeah. no one would ever do that

[sharp niche]

Same process for all the other ones like SF Compact and SF Mono

[marsh pollen]

brilliant

[sharp niche]

Just that the .pkg will be labelled as SF Mono Fonts or SF Compact Fonts

[marsh pollen]

wait 7zip can open dmgs?

[sharp niche]

yeah

[marsh pollen]

wah

are they secretly just zip files?

[sharp niche]

It's a known format

pretty much

[marsh pollen]

oh so they just also support it

okie

[sharp niche]

I think it was reverse engineered because apple gave away too much in the metadata of the files

[marsh pollen]

oh lmao

[sharp niche]

It's still proprietary

[marsh pollen]

clearly; otherwise open source programs would be able to open it or something

[sharp niche]

Yeah the UDIF metadata was reverse engineered into this struct

  uint8_t  Signature[4];           // magic 'koly'
  uint32_t Version;                // 4 (as of 2013)
  uint32_t HeaderSize;             // sizeof(this) =  512 (as of 2013)
  uint32_t Flags;                 
  uint64_t RunningDataForkOffset;
  uint64_t DataForkOffset;         // usually 0, beginning of file
  uint64_t DataForkLength;
  uint64_t RsrcForkOffset;         // resource fork offset and length
  uint64_t RsrcForkLength;        
  uint32_t SegmentNumber;          // Usually 1, can be 0
  uint32_t SegmentCount;           // Usually 1, can be 0
  uuid_t   SegmentID; 
  uint32_t DataChecksumType;       // Data fork checksum
  uint32_t DataChecksumSize;
  uint32_t DataChecksum[32];
  uint64_t XMLOffset;              // Position of XML property list in file
  uint64_t XMLLength; 
  uint8_t  Reserved1[120];
  uint32_t ChecksumType;           // Master checksum
  uint32_t ChecksumSize;
  uint32_t Checksum[32];
  uint32_t ImageVariant;           // Unknown, commonly 1
  uint64_t SectorCount;
  uint32_t reserved2;
  uint32_t reserved3;
  uint32_t reserved4;
} __attribute__((packed, scalar_storage_order("big-endian"))) UDIFResourceFile;```
It's big-endian

[marsh pollen]

koly? tf?

[sharp niche]

no idea

[marsh pollen]

wild

[sharp niche]

Ahh it's the trailer for the start of the metadata

0x6B6F6C79

koly in ASCII

[marsh pollen]

yeah i just

dont get why they chose koly

[sharp niche]

Apple in joke probably

[marsh pollen]

mayb

[sharp niche]

there's a few of those in the dev tools that get leaked occasionally

[marsh pollen]

oh lol

didnt know that happened

[sharp niche]

early iphone internal dev tools found their way out cause someone sold one of the test devices on craigslist

Apple really control their leaks now so it's unlikely to happen

[marsh pollen]

lmfao that's amazing

man imagine owning that test device

[sharp niche]

Dankpods got hold of some prototype ipods
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwKcYN6FpKE&t=570s

[marsh pollen]

woa

[sharp niche]

Yeah Apple REALLY hates that there are some of these in the wild. Would love to see EVT versions of things like the first FaceID software

[marsh pollen]

would be interesting to just have a museum of prototype devices

[sharp niche]

yeah. Apple/google/whatever will NEVER let that happen though

[marsh pollen]

sadge

[sharp niche]

Did love when LTT where mucking around on various console dev kits

even ones from nintendo. And you know what they're like

[marsh pollen]

I've not seen those

[sharp niche]

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=LTT+dev+kits

Man I hate LTT's thumbnails (According to linus it works tho so, gotta keep gaming that algo)

[solar glade]

Wdym?

[radiant sail]

OH MY GOD I LOVE YOU

bs singlehandedly fixing cargo

also so much os discussion here huh

https://tenor.com/view/trollge-troll-the-day-of-reckoning-gif-19655212

[marsh pollen]

uhhhh sure thing 👍
all os discussion here, no need to investigate, mods

[marsh pollen]

the idea is that there's CPU registers that store a segment. So for example, CS stores a code segment. Then when you access an address/use a pointer, it actually does segment + pointer. So if you jmp 7 it'd do jmp cs + 7 under the hood.

(from my rough understanding)

[radiant sail]

M O D S

kill this user

[marsh pollen]

[radiant sail]

i hate this system with intensity

CODE SEGMENTING

[rain cipher]

Cannot kill, too much basedness (?)

[radiant sail]

now that i think about it

i wonder where "segmentation fault" term comes from

i still dont exactly know what a segmentation fault is supposed to be

[marsh pollen]

I'm not sure tbh

segfault is when you try to access memory that's not paged afaik

[radiant sail]

yes but thats not a segmentation fault, its a page error

[marsh pollen]

yeah but then if that memory doesn't exist

it's a segfault

[radiant sail]

maybe a leftover term from back when old segmentation was used?

[marsh pollen]

could be

[radiant sail]

seems like the most plausible thing

[sharp niche]

This is correct in x86 land, I'm not sure how ARM does it. the number is normally represented as a Hex number when dealing with the segments in assembly. there's 6 of them (code segment, data segment, stack segment, extra segment, and 2 general purpose segments) , I'm not entirely sure whether the segmentation is needed to be this way tho.

Why there is an extra segment and THEN 2 general purpose segmentns is totally beyond me

[marsh pollen]

yeah the segment registers are pretty dumb imo

I just zero them all

[sharp niche]

fair

[marsh pollen]

and yeah ive not looked at arm at all - this is just x86

[sharp niche]

ARM is the wild wild west when working this low level

Every manufacturer is gonna have a different implementation. There is a general way of how booting an ARM processor works but every single manufacturer does some parts of it differently

[marsh pollen]

yeah 💀

[sharp niche]

The thing I do like about arm is it has wass less special purpose registers

[marsh pollen]

simpler instructions too iirc

[sharp niche]

Yeah none of the AVX2 addon nonsense and stuff to speed up SIMD on X86

it just is quick

Also yeah. don't bother with AVX instructions

for ages

some manufacturers have different amounts of them

[marsh pollen]

dunno the slightest thing about them

I'm just gonna assume rust takes care of it for me xd

[sharp niche]

Uhh not at this low level without a standard library

[marsh pollen]

well damn

[sharp niche]

The AVX extentions are something you have to specifically opt-in to using, they're normally for speeding up things like physics engines and skyrim jiggle physics uhhhhh Software rendering

[marsh pollen]

jiggle physics?

[sharp niche]

you'll find out when you're older

[marsh pollen]

just tell me 😭

[sharp niche]

So you know how the human body has mass and therefore when running different parts of it are gonna shake? yeah that mod implements that

I'm not sus enough to use it myself but I did have a look into the code

and uhhhh

it's using AVX2 and AVX512 vector instructions

[marsh pollen]

ok so anime plot physics

[sharp niche]

Yes

[marsh pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-plot-boobs-shaking-bounce-gif-17032264

brilliant

can't have that lagging at all

[rain cipher]

Me when implementing Spring Pendulum physics in inox2d:

[sharp niche]

But it was fucking hilarious to me that that mod was using SIMD AVX instructions

[sharp niche]

the viewers will love you

[rain cipher]

mmmyes, Runge-Kutta powered boobs

[sharp niche]

OMFG

[marsh pollen]

runge-kutta?

[rain cipher]

It's a way to evaluate a physics simulation

[marsh pollen]

oh lmao

[sharp niche]

Man's doing full on calculus to work out the titty jiggle on a vtuber

[marsh pollen]

gotta keep the viewers happy

[sharp niche]

Yeah. I've defo never spent money on vtubers in the past. Uhhhmm yeah... O LOOK A COOL ROCK

[marsh pollen]

you should see spey's figurine collection

ok I just found out something about QEMU in another discord server

So for context you can attach GDB to it. -s enables GDB support. -S makes the machine not boot until GDB is attached

but if you do -S -S, it undoes itself, so the machine will boot before GDB is attached

[sharp niche]

That's the GNU debugger yes?

[marsh pollen]

ye

[sharp niche]

Huh

[marsh pollen]

but this

they really have a flag that undoes itself if specified twice

[rain cipher]

figurine collection spawned

[sharp niche]

I atleast recognize gawr gura

[rain cipher]

trust me this is totally OS related (?)

[marsh pollen]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/852443916955025419/1135649592789172304/IMG_20230731_171915.jpg?ex=65e61b9a&is=65d3a69a&hm=7e624446909d0930f6cd45539d538e2d4d1768e88c94b0f6a2344396f5d38bea&=&format=webp&width=814&height=1078

[rain cipher]

LOL

[marsh pollen]

[marsh pollen]

always is

[rain cipher]

Context: this was at an event for osu! where I brought my Gura figure (at the time my only one) and I broke it

[sharp niche]

There is a reason I don't take those types of things anywhere

[rain cipher]

And one guy (who happened to be the dev of a popular software in the osu community) helped me superglue it back :D

[rain cipher]

Well too bad because I'm gonna bring more next time

[sharp niche]

All the hobbyists I knew/know who at one point wanted to make their own OS were weebs or weeb-adjacent. So it's defo OS related

[sharp niche]

Oh god

I'm to protective of that shit

[marsh pollen]

NO WAY LMAO

[sharp niche]

I have an active shylily sub

so I can't comment

[rain cipher]

I mean look at this one it's so cute aaaaaaaa

[marsh pollen]

shylily?

[sharp niche]

Vtuber

[marsh pollen]

spey what was the one you sent me

uh

[rain cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/wom-womp-shylily-vtuber-anime-womp-gif-25135263

[marsh pollen]

OH

BEST GF

[sharp niche]

WOMP WOMP!

[marsh pollen]

oh wait ive seen her beforee

[rain cipher]

Shylily: WOMP WOMP
Her boobs: WOMP WOMP

[marsh pollen]

cat attacking my keyboard right as i send a message:

[sharp niche]

Whoever did that model was very horni.

[rain cipher]

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-idea-how-little-that-narrows-it-down-that-narrows-it-down-clear-now-its-clear-now-i-understand-now-gif-21256627

[marsh pollen]

I was gonna say lmao

the exact same as the rest of the vtuber community

[sharp niche]

Valid

I mean if was gonna stream I would totally do an asahi lina and become a VTuber

Would give me an excellent way of voice training

[marsh pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/squ-squchan-vtuber-en-vtuber-english-vtuber-gif-24576455

dude these animations are so smooth

wtf

i just looked up vtuber in gifs (was surprisingly unhorny)

[sharp niche]

Oh yeah. There's a reason big vtubers pay a good couple thousand for these models

[marsh pollen]

couple thousand?

damn

[sharp niche]

I think shylily's model cost 8k

8 THOUSAND

[marsh pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/vienna-vtuber-gif-25527837

this dude got moveable ears

[sharp niche]

Although Shylily's model is VERY expressive

[marsh pollen]

DAMN WHAT

premium boob physics: the real cost

[sharp niche]

It's got a atleast a thou Live2D (the vtuber thingy) layers.

each one has to be drawn and rigged

[marsh pollen]

holy shit

[sharp niche]

and blended correctly

[marsh pollen]

the model doesn't even look that complicated

that is crazy

[sharp niche]

It's doesn't look complicated but look at how the tail, ears and hair are all moving when she bobs her head up and down

Also theres tonnes of different presets

like angry, sad, happy, pouting

etc

[marsh pollen]

yeah its animated really well

I can see actually

just scrolling through gifs of her

(also bruh these are like 20x hornier)

[sharp niche]

yeap

[marsh pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/angy-angry-orca-shylily-womp-gif-25513662

angy womp lmao

[sharp niche]

Yes

[marsh pollen]

woah her eye colour changed

vtuber models are pretty insane

[sharp niche]

Yeah. You know what I was saying about layers?

People don't fuckin realise but theres so much shit that has to move or be swapped out in real time that it's very complicated behind the scenes

[marsh pollen]

ig so

[sharp niche]

ig?

[marsh pollen]

well, I just still don't know what all the layers do

so I can picture that there is alot happening, just not particulars, I suppose

[sharp niche]

Yeah it's hard to visualise without just looking at the Live2D rigging

[marsh pollen]

yea

[sharp niche]

I did 2D/3D animation at one point and learnt proper rigging so I have some idea of how it goes on

[marsh pollen]

ohhh neat

I've created a skeleton in blender and moved it to poses

cause i 3d printed some statue thingies for some friends

but that was it

[sharp niche]

Yeah

that's the simple stuff

Where it gets complicated is when you get bones influence other bones (IK rigging)

so you might have the foot bone which would control the position of the shin and thigh bone

with different influences to each

and you can set bounds to it doesn't go to crazy positions

[rain cipher]

can confirm

unwarranted inox2d demo (?)
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055469899855708210/1206418528761155594/waifu-physiiiiiiiiiiiiiiics.mp4?ex=65e52a4f&is=65d2b54f&hm=03274d11b8a5a18cfa8170bbafb283d86e9872d99f1b2def864114d26924f56c&

[sharp niche]

damn nice

[sharp niche]

Also what DE is that?

[rain cipher]

KDE

[sharp niche]

Wait thats KDE?

that's changed since I last used it

[rain cipher]

I customized it a bit xd

It's kinda always been very customizable

I changed the icon to a moe-colored Arch, put the icons in the center, added CPU consumption bars

[radiant sail]

very os related talk here

i for one look forward to vtuberos where the entire operating system is managed via vtuber tracking systems

[rain cipher]

bruh imagine moving your desktop with face and hand tracking

[radiant sail]

that would be cool

tbh

@/BrightShard ok now do this

(/j)

[marsh pollen]

Challenge accepted

Let me uh

Actually boot first

And figure out how face tracking works

Then like

Remake the apple vision pro

But not vr

[sharp niche]

Literally apple vision pro

[lavish ingot]

Pretty inneficient

Literally, how will you type stuff? By looking at a keyboard one letter at a time?

Also it is much more expensive than a phone yet it doesn't have a single advantage over it

The only reason ppl buy it is that it looks cool and futuristic

[sharp niche]

You can. Or you can just tap the virtual keyboard with your hands.

[lavish ingot]

Oh okay

Well I am against it because it strenghtens consumerism

Other than that it's just a cooler looking phone but you can't have it in pocket

[marsh pollen]

I think it opens some new cool opportunities

Because it's an entirely new way to interact with computers

I think that is neat and having so many windows could be too; otherwise idk

[sharp niche]

Lots of computer vision machine learning

besides for anything computer based you really want eye tracking not face tracking

because you would need to know where people are looking to figure out which app they want to effect

[marsh pollen]

True

[lavish ingot]

It is useful for people that normally can't control keyboard and mouse but that's all

And companies will track your eye attention, getting even more data

Also it will probably have locked bootloader like on a iPhone so you won't be able to install Linux on it

[radiant sail]

average brightshard day

[marsh pollen]

I mean it has potential to unlock some cool stuff. Like actually reaching out and touching UI elements that appear right in front of you would be kind of revolutionary imo. But yeah apple's implementation will never be ideal

[sharp niche]

Its REALLY useful for design visualisation. Actually being able to see the thing in real space without having to spend potentially thousands on materials

[lavish ingot]

That would be just cool but I don't imagine it increasing navigation efficiency

[lavish ingot]

Yeah that will be

Well yes maybe for some jobs it's useful

But for me as a future programmer, the technology I require for my job is a terminal emulator with neovim web browser, git and cargo and zsh.

All of which can be controlled purely by keyboard

[marsh pollen]

Yeah, but I'd like to think there's new wacky stuff that will get designed for it

[rain cipher]

Full dive technology (?)

[sharp niche]

Ask elon musk for that shit (I'm never getting one).

[rain cipher]

It frustrates me that he seems like he'd be the first person to do something like this and at the same time the last person I'd want to do this

[sharp niche]

Yep

Elon musk is literally just creating everything Ian M banks ever wrote about

Even though I'm sure he didn't write them as a fucking to-do list

Like I would rather have arasaka creating my brain chips

[radiant sail]

i mean look at the upsides

for me the only big problem with these technologies are the fact theyre made by corpo that will use them to squeeze out every bit of data from you and use dark patterns and shit to get you addicted and whatnot. a foss implementation would basically solve all this

therefore in this 90 page essay i will explain why brightshard needs to make vtuberOS immediately

[marsh pollen]

let me read from disk first 💀

[sharp niche]

Your OS must support 3D visualisation by design /j

Actually. I do wonder if wayland/X-org could be bullied into working in 3d

[radiant sail]

in this second essay i will explain why brightshard needs to remake the assembly language itself

[sharp niche]

Custom design your own CPU

[radiant sail]

yeah brightshard should make their own cpu architecture

custom built

[sharp niche]

Not even apple, google or microsoft are brave enough to do that

[radiant sail]

256-bit

[sharp niche]

You actually hit performance degredation with CPUs that have a ALU/Data bus that wide. there's alot of unnecessary bites just lying around that your never going to need

most CPUs will have 256bit or higher registers but they're only for SIMD extensions

[radiant sail]

smh smh wont accept the future of processors

[sharp niche]

bro my OS still boots into 32 bit prodected mode using the BIOS

BIOS hasn't been modern since like 2010

[radiant sail]

bios has literally never been updated since it started getting used in like the 80s

there's a reason uefi exists

[marsh pollen]

LMAO

mfw im 17 but reinvent computing because someone on discord thought itd be funny

[rain cipher]

mood

[radiant sail]

to be completely honest after scanning the entirety of how kernels and the very low level software interactions in a computer work the only thing i dont actually understand is how assembly language/assemblers do stuff

[sharp niche]

it's mostly just translation. There's not really any optimisation to be done to assemblers. As it's literally telling the CPU exactly what to do.
mov ax, 5
Will get translated to 66B80500

You can just write out binary code by hand. Although you've actually gotta be clinically insane to do that

labels and jump instructions just jump back to the point in the data where that happens

[radiant sail]

so basically what it does is translate specific instruction combinations to a bunch of numbers that get passed to the processor?

[rain cipher]

yeah

[sharp niche]

yeah. mov will become 66, as that's the HEX for the mov instruction. B8 is the register, and 0500 is the actual number to use (yes it looks wrong, I think it's an endianness thing).

[rain cipher]

yeah little endian

[sharp niche]

Thought so

[rain cipher]

weakest bytes first

Little endian is easier to deal with when you're doing for loops

since the index corresponds to the power

[sharp niche]

I know there's advantages to each but that's getting into like the nanosecond level optimisations.

And i'm nowhere near that good enough

[rain cipher]

oh didn't know there was even a performance advantage...

[sharp niche]

Very very teeny tiny performance considerations to do with bit flipping. But literally no-one cares about that anymore

[marsh pollen]

didn't know about that, dang

[solar glade]

Guess who has to do it for uni
(Why)

[sharp niche]

Bruh wat

That's like actually dumb

[solar glade]

:')

[marsh pollen]

the hell

what class is that for???

[solar glade]

'Computer Structures'

We're doing MIPS now

[rain cipher]

How much?

If it's just like a few exercises to understand how it does it I think it's fine

[solar glade]

last course, after making a computer out of logic gates, "we" designed our own assembly and we had to translate instructions into hex so many damn times

[rain cipher]

If they make you... idk... learn how to do it by heart then it's fucked up

[solar glade]

so
many
times
including the final exam :)

[rain cipher]

what in the actual fuck

[sharp niche]

Oh god MIPS assembly. I remember that

[solar glade]

And also the control word

[rain cipher]

I learned MIPS in uni too and we never did that

[solar glade]

It's like
70 bits

We had to figure out 70 individual bits per assembly instruction
multiple times

[sharp niche]

Actually fucked me up for trying to make stuff in AMD64 ASM

[solar glade]

(also in the final test)

[marsh pollen]

what the hell 💀

i did mips but we just learned asm and then did a final project in it

nothing else

it was a smol 2 week course

[radiant sail]

ah. alright basically what i expected

[radiant sail]

why.

are they planning to put you to work in a human flesh-made computer where tons of people manually translate each instruction into bits or

[marsh pollen]

WE'RE READING FROM DISKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

if I hexdump the disk you can see it's the same bytes :DDD

[sharp niche]

lets go

[radiant sail]

YES

YES

NICE

[marsh pollen]

and hey look it was only half a thousand lines this time
for the record toast, your quote is now officially commited and pushed

[sharp niche]

uhhh which one?

[marsh pollen]

LOL

[sharp niche]

oh

lol

found it

ayy lmao

[marsh pollen]

yea

[sharp niche]

yeap found it

fucking brilliant

my shitty spelling has been immortalized forever

[marsh pollen]

[marsh pollen]

so i was encoding the gdt backwards
which is why all the long jumps were failing

and I think we now enter 32-bit mode correctly :D

[sharp niche]

lmao

how did you manage that?

[marsh pollen]

I was thinking little endian

so I thought the bytes would be in a different order

but turns out the osdev wiki already had them in the right order and kinda never clarified

[sharp niche]

oh

the osdev wiki just assumed you knew their example was little endian

[marsh pollen]

yeah

ok well it's not erroring but it's not working the way I expected it to either so idk what's happening

either way it appears to be running 32-bit code?

[sharp niche]

Yay progress?

[radiant sail]

progress? question mark??

[radiant sail]

rookie mistake