Album Art Creation & Edit feature discussion

[worn oak]

This discussion is getting a little long in the tooth so turning it into a thread so we can continue without preventing people from seeing the art.

Screenshot included of previous messages -

this image is an example of using the edit feature myself to some mixed effectiveness

the first image was this

you might notice that I didn't use a FULL panel generation to edit the other parts - I have to include enough of my original image in the generation panel for it to recognize the rest of the piece

[stable bobcat]

Oh neat. Maybe is this similar to the in/out painting? I'm just strictly (at present) using the edit option on a mobile where you can swipe a bit of the image away and edit text

[worn oak]

I haven't touched the in/out painting yet actually. Been working on learning the editing first before I touch that haha

[stable bobcat]

Oh cool, ok helpful to know it's possible then with just basic edit

[worn oak]

This was a struggle though and I had to edit some parts twice over to get them how I wanted as I expanded the image further.

[stable bobcat]

So then I'm very curious! How did you have the generation extend the initial picture?

[worn oak]

Plus sometimes the edit RESETS to an earlier prompt you had >.<

let me grab 2 images to show an example

earlier version

[stable bobcat]

Also; I've tried to keep up in another chats - it's best to start with all new text for the edited update? Or did you keep any text similar ?

[worn oak]

Depends entirely on what you want to edit

[stable bobcat]

So let me show you an example

[worn oak]

the VERY FIRST version of this image had a 'hollow' finger pointing out (like a rifle) that Discord couldn't upload. I had it cover part of the guy in the middle but didn't need to mention much about him since it had enough context to just fill in the erased area naturally. The outside I was expanding needed some extra work though, changed the prompt to specifically fit what I wanted out of that new area

Sometimes this feels like you're working with totally different artists though. I couldn't get DALL-E to recreate a 'fixed' version of the original 'ghost wife' or whatever it was after I had erased her. And re-uploading would've started me at a lower resolution.

[stable bobcat]

It's an example of a an attempt to keep most of the image; but trying to add specific

[worn oak]

go for it

[stable bobcat]

Like all my credits lmao

[worn oak]

you're not expanding here, just trying to edit in the same resolution. Is that correct?

[stable bobcat]

So I managed to get something happening in that one mid right section ;;

[stable bobcat]

Yes, literal just erase a bit; add some other words

[worn oak]

Yeah in my experience that's harder to do than expanding it. I started my image off with the guy in the middle as a 'close-up portrait with bla bla bla details and bla bla bla background'

[stable bobcat]

Ok ok; sure

[worn oak]

then expanded to include the details I didn't have

[stable bobcat]

So what like "expand the image etc" I guess; I used so many credits need a better hint 😹🤦🏼‍♀️

[worn oak]

this feature is in beta, and right now it tries to fill back-in a lot of the same stuff like you said you were struggling with earlier. If the area is too small it'll often just re-do whatever it thinks 'fills in' the image

sec let me open dalle up

[stable bobcat]

Ahhh this is an interesting mention

if the area is too small

could very well be that for this one

[worn oak]

Yeah, based on what I saw you struggling with that seemed to be the problem

do you know how to expand the image yet?

beyond the standard resolution

[stable bobcat]

These two are pretty hilarious epic though so I'm definitely loving it in general 😹

[worn oak]

lol

[stable bobcat]

No I guess I've never tried this yet tbh

[worn oak]

okay let me give a quick step-by-step because it took me a sec to realize it was even a possibility

[stable bobcat]

And you use "standard resolution" a lot so I'm guessing this is important

[worn oak]

By standard resolution I'm referring to the regular resolution Dall-E sets these images to without edits

and sets any uploaded images to

[stable bobcat]

And prob tied to the image as is initially

?

[worn oak]

yeah

[stable bobcat]

Ahhh ok ok

[worn oak]

just a quirk with how DALL-E currently works

[stable bobcat]

(Separate thought -- can it be why I have to be so specific and still struggle to get dall-e to give a "longer/wider shot" in general / default)

[worn oak]

So step 1 - pick some image you want to edit / expand

[worn oak]

yes

soemtiems

let's say I love this image but want to erase a part like a single coin

first I'll erase it and then I'll add a generation frame (f)

(the button to the right of the eraser tool)

then I might use the pan tool to pan down and use the select to change where the generation frame is positioned until I have just enough context for DALL-E to 'fill in' what I felt was a 'blemish / mistake' on the image

[stable bobcat]

Dang maybe it's just that mobile option has less option💔 🍘 .. I have never seen the screen as you show-- I'll check with a comp this weekend

[worn oak]

see all that blank stuff? that will be what it generates as a completely new image.

but it does it with the context of ONLY the area the generation frame is overlapped with

generating essentially as if the rest of the image to the right doesn't exist

This can be both an asset and a pain in the a**

if you forget to overlap, you end up essentially 'wasting' credits as it won't even fit in the same universe/style/color scheme as your original image.

thankfully Dall-E saves those in the collection so you can go back if you want to use them on their own

[stable bobcat]

Which we can see many various forms in that one example I sent 😹

Just making a bit larger area, and trusting it to fill back in whatever was there that was wanted .. already helps a bit; more consistent extra content in the edit generation appears

[worn oak]

Yes exactly

before it was doing the 'fill-in' aspect I mentioned

[stable bobcat]

Ya and was too small to do anything else

[worn oak]

Mhm

[stable bobcat]

I see this looking back

already excited to do more with earlier stuff

😹🥰

[worn oak]

but if you don't realize how the AI's 'formula' works (at the end of the day every AI is a formulaic system), you miss out haha

So glad!

I'll let you play 🙂

[stable bobcat]

Thank you so much for the time!

[worn oak]

Of course! Enjoy creating with your expanded creativity :3