community-help

[pliant osprey]

a human would see no issue here, you should be fine

don't forget, "women" is plural

"a women" doesn't make sense, you need "a woman"

[subtle dock]

would be interesting what the error word was

oh yeah sorry lol

[pliant osprey]

although I wonder how it would interpret it

[subtle dock]

English is not my main language ;)

[pliant osprey]

all good, there's loads of similar sounding stuff in english

[uncut jacinth]

If we were to create an extensive amount of edits to an image (such as do a bunch of compositing, re-drawing large areas by hand, colour correction or animation) where do the rights go as an artist? Do we own the edit and can do what we want as long as we credit DALLE as assistance to the final result?

[wheat zodiac]

Serious question: is Instagram shadowbanning Dall-E content?

Has anyone noticed a dip in their statistics ever since they started uploading DALL-E stuff?

[jovial wasp]

No, but I've picked up maybe 100 random new subscribers

Followers, whatever, I'm tired

[wheat zodiac]

Amazing! Cheers.

[vale brook]

How many prompts to we get in total?

[restive sand]

Hello, I've set up a paid account but still seem limited to 50 prompts. Does the paid account not apply to DALL-E?

[long lily]

they're currently working on it-introducing the option to buy additional prompts

[wheat zodiac]

Hey, how exactly have you set up a paid account?

[restive sand]

https://openai.com/api/pricing/

[wheat zodiac]

So that’s $600 for 1000 tokens?

[restive sand]

6 pennies for a 1000 tokens.

$0.0600 / 1K tokens

[wheat zodiac]

Nawrrr, you kidding me?

[wheat zodiac]

Isn’t that… cheap?

[restive sand]

I don't think it applies to DALL-E though, just the other stuff, like GPT-3 completions, etc

[wheat zodiac]

So around 30 prompts for 6 pennies?

[wheat zodiac]

Right. I was afraid it’s going to be ridiculously expensive after release, but if the pricing is similar to the one your shared I’m hyped!

[bitter wing]

they've been claiming they're non profit, so if indeed they charge mainly for sustaining themselves, then that would be very cool

anyone know if it is possible to change one's first and last name on the Dall-E / OpenAI account?

[bronze stump]

This is pricing to use the GPT 3

[wheat zodiac]

Do you think DALL-E pricing could be vastly different? Is visual data more expensive to handle?

[tight pine]

yeah this is for GPT3. it has nothing to do with dall-e2.

the pricing for dall-e2 will be very different. the computing power required to generate images is a lot higher

[sand basin]

For Cosmopolitan this outpaint tool created by our own Dalle2 developers was demonstrated. Where can we find it? I made a gif, so you can see its functionality.

[wheat zodiac]

In the article you can read that it is yet to be released! ⭐

[elder cradle]

Really would like to see that

[rough tundra]

it's a completely private collection, you can share individual photos from it though

[naive moth]

Thanks

[sand basin]

Yes, I saw that. I thougt perhaps we as betatesters can test it before official launch.

[fleet brook]

At some point possibly yes

[wheat zodiac]

Can’t wait for the feature!!! 😁

[bronze stump]

This is something I have been asking myself as well. I should have used the GPT-3 pricing as reference in the survey earlier this week as my idea of pricing was A LOT higher than the rest of the community. I certainly overestimated the processing costs, costs for maintaining servers, etc.
I did note that the higher the pricing is, the more I would use this in mainly a professional setting instead of personal. I believe there is an equilibrium that will make it worthwhile for both personal and professional use, I just don't have enough information to make a sound decision on where that could fall.

[thorny phoenix]

I have been suffering from an authentication problem for over two weeks now that has kept me from trying DALL•E. Sent multiple emails to support without any confirmation they were ever received. Could I please just get someone to reset the account?

[verbal crag]

I thought "North Korea" and "propaganda" was banned?

[ornate herald]

If I upload my own artwork and generate variations of it, does OpenAI then own the copyrights to the generated variations of my artwork?

[verbal crag]

Yes.

[verbal crag]

You might want to check server frequently. Wait for an admin to come online. The ones with the yellow names.

[ornate herald]

Thanks for the info! Also, does my uploaded artwork then become part of DALL-E’s dataset?

[verbal crag]

Check number 3 and number 5.
https://labs.openai.com/policies/terms

[ornate herald]

Thank you!

[sacred cave]

Does dalle use movie prop design as aesthetic references ? like can you say “in the style of star wars episode 2” or “in the style of tron legacy”

[wheat zodiac]

Of course!

[wheat zodiac]

#—post-dalle-edits message

[steel quartz]

I got a content warning for "woman lounging at the beach holding a cocktail at sunset" It only went through when I changed "cocktail" to "drink"?

[wheat zodiac]

Perhaps woman + cocktail got flagged. NSFW images are not allowed and the AI probably got confused.

[wheat zodiac]

woman holding cock…tail 😄

[livid mica]

Hello everyone! How do I recommend another user for the beta? I remember Natalie mentioning what to do, but I forgot 😄

[plucky crest]

Is it true that we can't share images with faces ?

[elder cradle]

We can't upload to Dall-E faces of real people

[plucky crest]

ahh ok, but we can share faces generated with it

[elder cradle]

I guess, these aren't real people

[plucky crest]

thanks 🙂

[wheat zodiac]

What if I have the consent of a celebrity? Or I wanna do a photoshoot with her and edit her clothes in DALL-E? 😆
Or it’s still no?

[rugged wing]

Anyone know why this is happening

[hushed ivy]

Does OpenAI have a roadmap? Would be good to know what's coming up/ planned

[frosty sparrow]

Hello!
How many iterations we have per day?

Thanks!

[wheat zodiac]

50 prompts per 23.5 hours ⭐

[frosty sparrow]

This will include also variations, correct?Thank you!

[vagrant burrow]

Is there a mod I could talk to about an image that I want to share but unsure if it violates the content policy?

[wheat zodiac]

Any time a loading bar appears means you have used a token! ^^

[frosty sparrow]

Is there any “on screen” counter?How do I keep track?

Thanks!

[wheat zodiac]

Nope, there isn't! Either keep track manually or get a thrill of not knowing when your last credit will be 😄

[elder cradle]

"Let me just try this one more, I hope that's not my last credit!" :V

[frosty sparrow]

Haha oh man, lol!Pretty sure I will get lost!

Hopefully they will increment the option but not sure, the interface is super clean, revealing only the prompt field

Thanks for the answers guys!

[neat bridge]

hi hi! update on this -- we enabled:

• soviet-era
• soviet propaganda poster
• soviet poster
• soviet-era poster

@steady agate @open badge @verbal crag @elder cradle @tight pine thanks for your feedback!! ❤️

[wheat zodiac]

Alright, comrades, may the propaganda begin

[neat bridge]

oh also you can now incorporate:

clone wars
infinity war
guild wars

@violet kernel @tight pine @indigo rune thanks for the feedback!!

[sullen sierra]

@neat bridge "David Lynch" next perhaps... 👉 👈

[neat bridge]

small edit: prompt filter hits don't count against the cap! (but they often start w/ the loading bar)

[neat bridge]

wait I thought I added that

[neat bridge]

can you give me an example of a david lynch prompt to try please?

[sullen sierra]

Last time I tried David Lynch i got flagged. Like a day ago.

[sullen sierra]

Oh sure... Uh... "David Lynch in the style of Ralph Steadman"

[neat bridge]

nooo yeah it doesn't work for me either

[sullen sierra]

I mean, that is maybe likeness?
"A house designed like it is from a David Lynch movie"

[wheat zodiac]

@neat bridge are LGBT topics banned? Can I generate an LGBT soviet poster without getting flagged? 😢 Is LGBT stuff counted as NSFW?

[neat bridge]

definitely not nsfw!

[neat bridge]

ok yeah something's wrong -- but we won't be able to investigate until most of our team gets back from vacation on Jul 11, sorry!

[wheat zodiac]

Thank you for letting me know!!! Appreciate it.

[sullen sierra]

Well, no worries at all! Thanks for investigating.

[wheat zodiac]

Paid model not coming anytime soon, y'all 😄 😈

[humble lava]

Isn't this pretty much just #inpaint-outpaint ?

[open badge]

Isn’t lynch a word meaning to Kill someone. Maybe That’s why

Think this is the problem

[sullen sierra]

Yes of course, but they may be able to make a contextual exception for "David Lynch", I presume. That's why I wanted to mention it. Since they recently made exceptions for things like "Soviet Era' etc

[neat bridge]

yup that's what I'm trying to do! allowing lynch if david lynch

[wheat zodiac]

Please look at my results

What am I doing wrong?

No Godzilla to be seen…

I just uploaded a photo I took and masked where I’d want the Godzilla

Anyone? 🥺

Removing “walking on the street” made the Godzilla appear

[verbal crag]

I had the same problems too with Godzilla. Also, I can't seem to realistically generate Godzilla to the likeness of its most recent iteration. DALL•E generates the old-school version of it.

[wheat zodiac]

These look sweet, but they are directly generated from DALL-E, not using / editing a reference photo

[verbal crag]

Definitely the old versions of Godzilla, yes?

[wheat zodiac]

I haven’t seen the new Godzilla so I don’t know 😄

[verbal crag]

Here's my try a few days ago. Original image from Unsplash.
#—post-dalle-edits message

[wraith jay]

i had made one yesterday if it helps, but mechagodzilla

[hushed ivy]

Would there be an easier way to get some things into the data sets? e.g A weekly vote on x number of things?

[frosty sparrow]

Is there any way to stop the image generation once started?

In the right screen columns I see only the current 10 set of generated images according to the prompts I've been used.
How to see what I've generated before in the same session?Thanks?

[wheat zodiac]

They cache out. Make sure to save the shots you like in your gallery and download those that you wish to edit ⭐

Else; they are lost.

[verbal crag]

via your browser history

[sullen sierra]

Passing on the great advice to also bookmark your result pages in your browser

[frosty sparrow]

Thanks for the advices, will go through browser history or make bookmarks.
I usually find myself going back and forth sometimes so having access to previous iterations will be useful.

[wheat zodiac]

Question to everybody: have you started uploading DALL-E content to your art profiles, are you sharing your creations with the world, or have you created a separate account strictly for DALL-E content?

[tight pine]

amazing wow thank you!

[uncut jacinth]

bumping my question if anyone can answer it 🤞

[rough tundra]

a friend of mine signed up a week ago onto the waitlist but never received a confirmation email, so he tried again just now and never received one. is this normal?

[wheat zodiac]

People wait for months.

[rough tundra]

i mean just the confirmation email saying that you're on the waitlist

but you're right, i waited two

[wheat zodiac]

Especially after newcomers joining and promoting DALL-E more than even, there’s a great influx of people applying to the waitlist! Patience ✨🤟

[narrow tangle]

Hi guys! Say Dalle-2 gave me a picture I liked. Now, I would like to use that very same style to make another whole different request. How can I achieve that?

[verbal crag]

Redo the prompt

[tight pine]

yeah this doesnt seem right

tell him to try a different email

[rough tundra]

they tried and still nothing

said they did it from a mobile device both times if that means anything

[sand basin]

Both. On my personal Insta https://www.instagram.com/rodgermettenday/ I share Dalle creations. https://www.instagram.com/kraft_punk_daft_werk/ is a mono-themed Insta and on https://www.behance.net/gallery/144409723/DALL-E2-DELFT-BLUE-STORMTROOPERS I explain people how, why, what of more conceptual projects.

[sand basin]

perhaps you gave Dalle to little space? It needs a lot of room for edits...

[sand basin]

Propaganda for eating apples is always good 😂 Perhaps Dalle can now decide if the propaganda idea is good or evil 😬

Dalle concluded you wanted it to make the face of an existing person?

[shadow yoke]

it can deactivated my account because i tried to generate blood?

@pallid sedge Why did my account got deactivated? I didnt tried to make hentai or something ?

[neat bridge]

Have you tried to generate blood lots of times? 😅 I can check in a bit

[shadow yoke]

please check it out, it can be possible but the rules was saying its not allowed, so i think it just dont allow me to do it but never think about deactivate my account

[shadow yoke]

i tried to generate variations of anime but not nude with underwear

[neat bridge]

dm me your email please!

[shadow yoke]

i did

[wraith jay]

i'm sharing my best on reddit

[wraith jay]

lol lol !!

[wheat zodiac]

Has anyone tried generating a color code?

I mean, adding a hex code to your description, like #C0EC42

[patent rain]

css is a no go

D:

[wheat zodiac]

I think it still somehow comprehended red and -50%

ALl of your photos are ying-yang-ish

[wheat zodiac]

This for some reason works.
In the recent tabs you can access your last 10 generations, but if you have a link to one of your past prompt result pages you can still access it.

For how long? No idea.

But you can indeed check your browser history and go back to prompt results you wanna revisit

[cerulean fractal]

ive gotten a decent godzilla

[verbal crag]

Phenomenal! Nice touch with the cat!

[cerulean fractal]

thanks! It started out as a random lumpy building bit and I just KNEW it wanted to be a cat

that was my first great DALLE gen

its really good at cyberpunk stuff

[wheat zodiac]

Awesome! I still haven't tried digital art with DALL-E! 😮

[cerulean fractal]

Thanks! Im all about fantasy and scifi, so thats were I lean

it really struggles with fantasy especially when its photorealistic

[wheat zodiac]

Honestly, I think it's WE who are struggling ^^

With choosing the right keywords and structure

[cerulean fractal]

perhaps, but im not sure. there are definitely some dataset missing pieces

such as i can NOT get it to make a person wearing a monocle no matter what

[wheat zodiac]

🧐 try this @cerulean fractal

just put a single emoji

and click generate 😄 it reads emojis too ^^

[cerulean fractal]

im trying to save my prompts for the morning

im in the middle of another animation project

[vast snow]

Which word in this is banned?

Also is it possible to remove the violation?

[lucid ravine]

might be death

and if or when it would be reviewed, it may be fine based on the context.

[steady agate]

Has anyone discovered a way to exclude certain elements from an image before it is generated? None of the options I tried worked for me "no xyz" "delete xyz" "-1 xyz" "remove xyz"

[verbal crag]

" [prompt] that has no 'xyz' " works sometimes. But I find it's better to use the edit function instead.

[steady agate]

Yes, editing is effective when you want to remove a specific piece, but when the composition is complex and overloaded with elements, it is required to give an order from the beginning to exclude what we do not want to be on the image. Also, when it comes to colors, editing is usually useless, so in this situation the exclusion can be extremely helpful.

[rugged wing]

I got flagged for not following guidelines for asking "photo of a gemstone covered cat staring at nuclear explosion at the distance"

Dalle doesnt like Nukes? 😄

[wheat zodiac]

Yes, nukes are banned

Or perhaps explosion, or perhaps both of them

Try volcano eruption, may generate the same type of smoke in the sky you want @rugged wing

[rugged wing]

thank you @wheat zodiac ❤️

Is it because of word "gun"?

[wheat zodiac]

Yes

No NSFW, no violence, no celebrities

Due to current political and war climate you can see why gun and nuke are banned

[rugged wing]

I can totally understand that, I live next to the storm 😄
I am actually trying to "understand" how to talk to Dalle2 so I can provide the best feeedback I can. I've been having so much fun with it 🙂
Thank You so much for creating this ❤️

Do you by any chance have some sort of sheet with keywords that should be avoided? Im not into NSFW stuff at all with these experiments, just seeing how this can be applied as a tool from different perspectives.

[tight pine]

no offense but ... ofc it is. i mean if you read the content policy, "gun" is one of the most obvious banned words...

[rugged wing]

No offense taken, Thank You for this 🙂

[wheat zodiac]

Just be wary of what may be considered as NSFW or violence. Don't worry if you get flagged, but also do not keep attempting to generate flagged content. 2-3-4-5 flags won't get you banned, but if the OpenAI team sees you're deliberately trying to generate content that's against their policy you will lose access.

[rugged wing]

Thank You @wheat zodiac

[tranquil wigeon]

Does DALLE2 care about capitalisation?

[wheat zodiac]

I doubt, but you may never know!!!

I have noticed it does care about punctuation, though.

Having your prompt separated in structured sentences helps DALL-E greatly. I see some people spit out a 2-paragraphed prompt with not a single comma! 😄

[neat bridge]

it does not actually! punctuation yes, capitalization no

[tranquil wigeon]

Awesome, thanks for confirming! :3

[past robin]

Hey,
I want to try to create a prompt that involves cigarettes, is it considered as violation of the rules?
Thanks :)

[tight pine]

speaking of...

in what way does it care about punctuation? what does punctuation change exactly?

and is there any difference between a , . ; and so on? or do they all have the same effect? testingby the community says they are all the same

[tight pine]

@wheat zodiac well duh i know grammar...

i am asking specifically about the way dalle interacts with them

[wheat zodiac]

" a photo of a person that likes cooking dogs and kids"

"a photo of a person that likes cooking, dogs and kids"

will yield completely different results...

Imagine punctuation as new layers in photoshop.

no punctuation = all on the same layer

commas & dots = you let DALL-E know there's more than 1 subect to focus on

[neat bridge]

I think you’re wanting a more technical answer, which is a bit hard to elaborate on Discord — but basically punctuation can affect tokenization, which is a part of the process. Here’s an article that talks about some nuances of this: https://nlp.stanford.edu/IR-book/html/htmledition/tokenization-1.html

[tight pine]

not a technical answer no...

uhm... not sure how to phrase it. like, does a , make dalle consider it as its own prompt (like how midjourney does with ::) or as part of the same promot but given ... idk.. more importance or does it read it differently, etc...

and are there any difference between using , or a . or a ; etc

[neat bridge]

It’s not a violation, but I think image uploads will reject images that contain smoking (maybe bc it can’t distinguish between cigarettes and other things people smoke heh)

[past robin]

Thanks Joanne :)

[pliant osprey]

wonder if vaping uploads work

[wheat zodiac]

@neat bridge will there be a time where we would be able to generate all sorts of imagery? or NSFW, violence, drugs & celebrities will be off-limit forever?

[neat bridge]

I actually don’t know exactly how much . , ; makes a difference so I just asked a researcher — will get back to you once he replies!

[pliant osprey]

I suspect inside the model, there is a token for something like dog, and dog but they are very close semantically

[neat bridge]

hard to say! I could see us loosening up on the currently overly restrictive filters when it comes to violence — for the other categories it might depend on mitigation techniques / our learning goals / trade-offs of benefits against risks

[tight pine]

some testing by the community showed that there probably is no difference, but would still be nice to have an official answer regarding this, as testing doesnt need to give clear correct results

so thank you, i appreciate you asking the researchers!

[wheat zodiac]

I think if you plan on allowing these subjects, you'd need to hire a whole new department specifically about fake news (i.e. moderate users & what they generate), cause that has been on my mind ever since I got access here.

To think about DALL-E + fake news is scary!

[neat bridge]

sorry to clarify: as @pliant osprey said, punctuation will only truly matter if it changes semantic meaning. What I’m unsure of is how sensitive it is

[tight pine]

i think you should be allowed to create scenes of battles and fights as long as there is no gore (arms cut off) or blood or bad symbols (e.g. swastikas etc)

for example i would love to generate an airship firing bursts of anti air fire against incoming attacking planes lol

[pliant osprey]

In other models like GLoVe you actually check the distance between those tokens

I'm not familiar with how gpt-3 works internally

[neat bridge]

yes exactly! And ultimately our goal is to get to artificial general intelligence, not to build the best creative tool ever — so lots of difficult decisions to be made there

[tight pine]

i am not quite sure i understand

you mean like:

"a girl wearing a blue dress, black shoes, walking a dog"

would be read by the AI as

"a girl wearing a blue dress and black shoes, walking a dog"

as in, since the , between "blue dress and black shoes" doesnt change the meaning it isnt really there for the AI but the latter , is?

idk if this makes sense...

[neat bridge]

it would be encoded into numbers (the ultimate AI language heh) that are very close in distance to one another

[neat bridge]

re: semantic similarity, check out the examples in this post: https://openai.com/blog/introducing-text-and-code-embeddings/

[tight pine]

i dont really understand...

i guess all i need to know is that , do something and arent worthless.

basically what promoted this question is that i am unsure if i should write:

"someone wearing X, Y, Z, doing A"

or

"someoen wearing X Y Z, doing A"

when describing someone wearing multiple article of clothing and also doing something

[wraith jay]

a smart AI will see them the same yup, if there is no different possible meaning....

jsut like how a really smart AI should see 'my cat ate ?' and predict kibbles, even though dogs eat that, it still recognizes all 3 words as a match really to 'my dog ate'

[wraith jay]

🙂

I mean, partially would affect prediction, oops

(these AIs make predictions of probabilties for all the possible words that may come next)

[tight pine]

@neat bridgeuhm a question not related to dall-e... hopw do i get my free credits for the gpt3 playground?

[sacred cave]

has anyone found a way to maintain certain proportions so you can avoid art styles that might not be photorealistic, but require anatomically correct proportions of people and objects? I've tried anatomically correct, but sometimes it doesn't really register, but it does at least 80% of the time

[clear brook]

How do I get multiple angles of the same subject? I thought I saw that in one of the early Dall-E 2 videos. Do you upload a photo to do that?

[verbal crag]

via camera positioning.
"[prompt], facing the camera"
"[prompt], looking/facing to the left/right"
"[prompt], top-down view"
etc

[clear brook]

great so do I upload and then put that in the prmpt somehow?

[verbal crag]

Oh upload? You mean you're going to use your own photo?

[clear brook]

well if possible

but lets say no I'm using an output from DallE, I like the image, but now I want another view of the SAME obj

[verbal crag]

I'm afraid it does not work like that (at least for now).

[verbal crag]

Generate a new one but with modified camera position prompt. Don't expect 100% same object though

[clear brook]

so then how do I get the same object it just produced at a differant angle, wont the onject be differant every time?

ok

[verbal crag]

Key to getting the same character/object 90%+ of the time is to choose something that you think DALL•E has lots of images to infer from. For example: a bear + bee combo

[clear brook]

ok

[verbal crag]

By @dailydall.e on Instagram

[clear brook]

It would be super great if somehow we could get the same object, that way we could make a mesh of it

[verbal crag]

That would be great, yes.

I remember reading somewhere in this server that they're working on something so you could change an uploaded image's art style but still maintain the composition of the original photo.

Not really your goal but probably a stepping stone to your goal.

[clear brook]

Somehow I would image they will have a way to generate a mesh, might be a while

[humble urchin]

Is there a roadmap of what to expect to come from Dall.E

[errant rock]

I’m getting a lot of blocks on uploads of images without faces saying that I can’t upload the image because” it contains a photorealistic face” I’d love to know what negative biases are trained to prevent “face like shapes” from being detected as faces & how to avoid this?

[errant rock]

https://colab.research.google.com/drive/13xkSkvPaF5GU6Wpf35nVHUdP77oBVHlT#scrollTo=xXxbMrF4fdZs something like this

[soft kindle]

What was the prompt?

[wheat zodiac]

Hey, anyone knows how I can compile 10 frames into a zoom video

[echo vortex]

what have you found to be the best way to prompt a combo like that

[echo vortex]

how do you mean ?

[wheat zodiac]

nvm i got it

#inpaint-outpaint

ty

^^

[long lily]

''because in my experiments it seems the in-painting is applied to entire blocks - which are 16x16,basically if the non-transparent part is 1024x520
then Dalle2 will silently clip those bottom 8 pixels off anyway, which might surprise you
(because an block that is partially transparent will be considered completely transparent)''

[long lily]

what yall think? someone made this thesis

[clear brook]

I'm going to try that out. I played with it a while ago, but not since MJ

[past geyser]

very interesting and partly aligns with some of my experience of details disappearing or changing unexpectedly

it makes total sense though, since we're ultimately dealing with a small diffusion process then upscaling, right?

[long lily]

yes! also had experience today where i outpainted the last missing head area+the empty space over the head-and it generated it perfectly with only slightly over the head a blueish color-it couldnt pick it up anywhere from the image

[past geyser]

e.g. total size (1024) divided by inpainting limit (16) = original image size (64)

[verbal crag]

No idea. The one who made it didn't reveal it.

[uneven kiln]

Sorry I still have this doubt: can I generate images of historical figures or do they fall into the category of famous people?

[humble lava]

x2

[long lily]

what was the prompt character limit again?

[tough tusk]

Hello, who knows why this prompt is banned "disk of flat Earth in space. Photo from orbital staition" ?

[rough tundra]

flat earth is known to be banned on dalle

[rough tundra]

around 400!

[tough tusk]

So it is "Deception: major conspiracies or events related to major ongoing geopolitical events"

[rough tundra]

right on

[tough tusk]

Very bad decision.

[long lily]

thanks! but i need the exact amount-to be sure where my prompts are being cut off, because im doing outpainting

[tough tusk]

at least true cubic form of Earth was not banned )

[rough tundra]

ohhhh here's a better answer actually

[rough tundra]

i think it's a good one, imagine all of the photos you can create with this that have the intention to misinform huge groups of people

[tough tusk]

Well, OpenAi could have any rules they want but I find it meningless. Nobody will believe that Earth is flat because of internet image.

[rough tundra]

honestly you'd be surprised but i see it as a gay for internet communities to generate stuff that fits their backwards ideologies like this and further push it as propaganda

a WAY*

[wheat zodiac]

Yeah; no. Some people out there are crazy, don’t live in a bubble 😁

I totally get you, conspiracy is a favourite genre of mine and I love your idea, but fake news is a big dark side of DALL-E that’s yet to be explored.

People in this server will not believe the flat is Earth 😁 Of course. But such wild conspiracies have been a great weapon in politics to keep the uneducated and parts of the general public occupied with all sorts of bullshit (like the flat Earth conspiracy) but rather pay attention to what’s really going on.

This is a very, very complicated topic and as I said it’s complications are yet to be explored. Fake news is what won Brexit and Trump, but I will refrain myself from discussing politics.

I hope I answered your question on why some topics and keywords are banned 🤟

[long lily]

Thanks!

[wheat zodiac]

And to add to what I said, the OpenAI team said that with time the guidelines will change and loosen up, artists will have more freedom.

Their goal is perhaps to build an algorithm that keeps track of user behaviour and what they create as part of an effort to fight against fake news.

I think human art should be limitless and up to our imagination, but with great power comes great responsibility. We cannot just let people create photorealistic NSFW photos of celebrities or public figures.

Imagine you generate a fake photo of a politician doing drugs or partaking in illegal activities, send it to a yellow press gossip journal? That’s just the tip of the iceberg, honestly.

[tough tusk]

The best way to fight this, is for general people to know that any image could be generated. But when people will expect that only true images could be generated then it becomes dangerous.

[wheat zodiac]

What if you generate awful pictures of people and attempt to blackmail them?

What if you generate images that help push a dangerous agenda? Spread disinformation?

We live in the era of disinformation (ironic for the age of Aquarius) and if we thought fake articles and memes were dangerous, we are entering a whole new era of deep shit (potentially of course, I believe in the beauty of DALL-E and I’m a supporter for life)

[verbal crag]

There was already one in another Discord server pushing that "DALL•E is fake" ☠️

[rough tundra]

some guy was dming people with access on reddit that he will pay to know the "truth" about dall-e

implying it's all fake 😭

[wheat zodiac]

😁😁😁

enjoy the future yall

[split hazel]

I have a bunch of labs.openai.com/e/ addresses saved so I can go back to my old generation pages long after they disappear from the sidebar. Will starting a "new session" make these pages inaccessible to me?

[tight pine]

Nobody will believe that Earth is flat because of internet image.
i hope this is a joke

[echo geyser]

People believed the earth is flat with no such image

[tight pine]

yeah exactly

so they will believe it even more so WITH such an image

there were literally people in the comments under an article with a really badly generated image from Craiyon that believed it was real...

[echo geyser]

They accepted like

Really pathetic CGI

I don't really think trying to keep fuel away from conspiracy theorists is worth bothering with

They'll find something, make it up if they have to, just outright lie

Trying to keep conspiracy theorists in mind is impossible; they'll always make up something worse and more insane

[rough tundra]

id be scared to try tbh...

[livid mica]

Hello people! Is there a way to refer an artist? :)

[craggy haven]

I have a question, can i user a image generated by dall e as profile picture or that is a ban?

[ornate herald]

Totally agree with you. I’m so glad OpenAI team is very conscious about the risks of this technology and I appreciate how hard they work to shape the technology responsibly.

[verbal crag]

My profile picture is from DALL•E. As long as it's for non-commercial purposes.

[craggy haven]

Oh nice

[verbal crag]

Head on to #dall-e-bot and type !watermark when you have your desired photo

[strange solstice]

Cropped Image!

Here's your watermarked image. You can now use it as a profile picture!

[verbal crag]

Lol. It applied it again on mine.

[craggy haven]

Thanks for the tip

[potent lichen]

Hi guys! I have a question about how the copyright exactly works? During webinar, I remember Natalie saying that you could use, even sell, the images if you for example create a poster or print it on t-shirt. I am more curious about cover for the book.
But in Terms of Policy it says that it can be used only for non-commercial purposes. Which seems opposite to what Natalie said. I remember it was said during webinar that the image itself, like.. that file itself, is what cant be sold or used and "belongs" to Dall-E. But if you change it however, it no longer falls under her copy-right and you can use it even commercially, but you always have to credit Dall-E and mentioned what she did.

So in short, I ask if you can use the art Dall-E creates for book's cover purposes for the book that will be, well, sold. With giving proper credit to Dall-E in the book that the illustration comes from her.
And if this could be used for a book, is there some terms of policy where is commercial use mentioned?

Hope this makes sense.

Thanks!

[steel quartz]

I just got flagged for "Charlie Kelly with a baseball bat over his shoulder" ?

[elder cradle]

Famous people are blocked at the moment

[steel quartz]

It's a fictional character

[wheat zodiac]

Maybe DALL-E doesn’t know that and thinks it’s a celeb, thus flagging you

[steel quartz]

It went through when I changed it to "holding a baseball bat"

[wheat zodiac]

😄

trial & error! 🤟

[steel quartz]

"Photo of Charlie Kelly wearing a shirt and tie, holding a cat" is getting some great results though

[verbal crag]

Same question. #community-help message

OpenAI staff are mostly on vacation till the 11th though. So.. no one can answer yet.

[wheat zodiac]

I came here for posters and I made sure to SPAM abbout it in chat during the onboarding meeting. Whether it was my question she read or somebody else, she touched on the subject multiple times.

Take all I say with a grain of salt 101%, but she touched on heavily that what is off the table are NFTs and more specifically selling the file that you download from OpenAI. Literally the file you get.

When asked about posters and tees, she said that is okay.
Now, in Discord, some say commercial use is off the table.
I remember Joanne saying that all of this is complicated due to the 1001 factors that have a role in writing a Copyrights policy that will work now and in the future.

AI is a new thing. It may be very exciting, but what we need the most is for people to think of the bigger picture and that's what the nerds at OpenAI are doing (apart from getting blazed & tan on vacation 😛 as they should 💅 )

Super grateful to use DALL-E, nevertheless the restrictions, hold on policies and anything else. It's a blessing!

[keen hamlet]

I just got a content policy warning for the following prompt; can anyone tell me why?
"Rococo painting of an anteater dressed like Marie Antoinette, surrounded by cherubs, style of Jean-Honoré Fragonard, style of François Boucher, style of Jacques Philippe Caresme".
I have been testing what happens when you try to refine an art style by listing some exemplar artists of the period. This is the first time it has failed to adjust somewhat appropriately. I took a chance and tried a simpler prompt omitting "cherubs" and only listing one artist and it also threw a content warning: "Rococo painting of an anteater dressed like Marie Antoinette, style of Jacques Philippe Caresme". Jacques Philippe Caresme died in 1796, so he can't sue me. These prompts were attempts at variations on a prompt by another user which produced good results: “Rococo painting of an anteater dressed like Marie Antoinette”.

[verbal crag]

They indeed deserve the vacation!

I remember also what Joanne said, they just stuck on what was the most simplest thing to do (policy-wise) and that results to the policy of using DALL•E for non-commercial purposes only.

Numerous people have already mentioned Natalie's stance on that. I'm not planning to use this for any commercial purposes for now, but for those who do, I'd wait for it to be in writing. Either in the Policy or in the Terms. 😁

[wheat zodiac]

You tried to generate art with Marie Antoinette. Maybe try to do get an image of her without mentioning her. Perhaps lady in the style of XYZ 🤷‍♂️

[keen hamlet]

I have the same question about use for a book cover, and also as illustrations within a book (crediting all creations appropriately, of course).

[verbal crag]

Perhaps the word "dressed" is causing the flag. Try another word and see if it works @keen hamlet

[keen hamlet]

Hmm. I was riffing on a prompt by @split hazel that got good results: "“Rococo painting of an anteater dressed like Marie Antoinette”". It mentioned Marie Antoinette and the word dressed. My change was to add style of [specific period artist]. I am afraid to try another variation now!

[verbal crag]

I see. Looking again at your prompt; it's possible that DALL•E interprets "cherubs" with nudity. We all know cherubs in paintings are mostly only wearing a white cloth.

[keen hamlet]

Yes, I guessed that "cherubs" was the problem and omitted it, but continued to get fails even with that word omitted. The word "dressed" worked for another user with a variant of the prompt. I am suspecting something about the artist names.

[tight pine]

idk why it needs to be marie antoinette specifically. just say 18th century european/french queen or something

[keen hamlet]

@tight pine Worked: "Rococo painting of an anteater dressed like an 18th century French queen".

I had to add "standing below a golden archway" because the top of her head was outside the picture without an overhead specification.

[ornate herald]

@potent lichen and @wheat zodiac thanks I am also interested in DALL-E copyright questions!

I was also wondering about how OpenAI navigates the copyright of images in DALL-E’s dataset. I think it’s fine to be able to generate images in the style of an artist who is no longer living. But if an artist is still alive I feel it’s unfair to them if DALL-E can cop their style already. I’m thinking of artists who have a very iconic, recognizable style like James Jean for example.

I know DALL-E can already do stuff with popular characters like Darth Vader, Homer Simpson, etc. Just that ethically, taking from big corporate-owned IP feels different from taking from an independent artist.

[proud osprey]

Could you use variations or Inpainting to change the style of an image

Like making a photograph a painting or something

[verbal crag]

I believe they're working on a feature for that. Read it somewhere here in the server. For now you could try your luck with variations.

[proud osprey]

Alright, thanks

[potent lichen]

I asked about copyright policy during webinar and Natalie read that question and that's the answer she's given, what you are saying. That NFTs are forbidden, as well as selling the file you get from Dall-E, but using it for posters or shirts or if you edit the picture in any way, then it belongs to you and you can sell it (but have to credit Dall-E properly).
So this sounds like book covers (and someone here wanted also in-book illustrations) should be okay. But if you go only with Policy content, it seems like it is a no-go.
But also as you mention, she was mentioning that they are still writing more advanced copyright policy, but it takes time since it is such a robust subject (obviously). So maybe they have something written about allowance of book covers and stuff, but it isnt on the page officially yet.. (?)

[iron yew]

is it possible to "teach" a concept to dall-e?
It seems to not know what a MatCap is 😦

[wheat zodiac]

Try to throw some more keywords. Perhaps “a 3D sphere of a marble matcap material shader for Blender / C4D”

[tight pine]

i honestly dont believe that you are allowed to sell the artwork once you edited it. it does not take much to edit it and make it yours.

i would refrain from any commercialization of dall e images gor now, until they have published a more comprehensive copyright policy.

also if youre writing a book... dont use Dall E for the cover or illustrations please. Dall E isnt there yet.

put some effort into it and commission an artist to draw the cover. covers can be very important and if you look at the self published releases that are posted monthly on /r/fantasy youll see some amazing covers there.

[elder cradle]

During the zoom call they told we could edit and make it different enough then do whatever we want as long as we tell how Dall-E was used on it.
For printing, they said you could sell as it is, on t-shirts, book covers and so on.
Reason being that they haven't made the contract so we can own the original digital file yet.

They also asked to not remove the watermark at the bottom-right corner if using the original file

But, they also said they don't want people to make NFTs with it, being edited or not, well, at least not until they pass the ownership to the person that made the prompt.

I believe what they told me on the stream/call and I'll stand by that until they make a clear statement for everyone to see that changes that.

[potent lichen]

the thing is, "dall-e artist"s will become a thing and you can literally "draw with words". Some things people can already do when they know what to say is crazy. And at this point Dall-E cover can look as good as commissioned art. Often times better, miles better (at least compared to many of books from our local authors).
"put some effort into it and commission an artist".. isnt this effort too, tho? spending countless prompts and coming up with the perfect prompt that will produce the image you'd want?
This all sounds kinda like a pre-Dall-e talk to me, tbh. But, imo, "dall-e artists" is an inevitable outcome.

[heavy rose]

I have a question regarding the license: can I use DALLE-generated images as a reference that architects will use for making digital locations? In a commercial project.

Technically I can and no one will ever know that there were AI-generated references lol, but I think it's cool if I can publically say DALLE was used there.

[potent lichen]

they said if you edit it even a little bit, it is yours.
you can use it for textures for games/movies etc.
I'm checking my notes during the call and I see there was a mention of using it for books allowed.
One thing they cant do now is give you ownership of the Dall-E file. You can even sell the Dall-E art in a gallery, when printed on canvas or whatever. Thats clearly a commercial use.
Seems so far, that the "commercial use" is only about the file itself. Not the image as it is. If that makes sense.

[potent lichen]

not a dev, but I dont see why not. Its like looking at licensed picture during google search and getting inspired by them. You dont need to own that picture, or? I doubt it.

[tight pine]

but what constitutes sufficient editing is very subjective.

and still, its experimental immature technology. i really wouldnt use it for commercial stuff.

but you guys do what you think is right.

[elder cradle]

Well, just removing the watermark doesn't seem sufficient 👀

It's pretty rare for a image to look perfect tho

Faces, depending on style looks messed up

[tight pine]

i hope NFTs stay banned but thats just my personal opinion. with how the NFT market functions someone will inevitably illegally market Dall-E stuff as NFTs anyway

[elder cradle]

You do know that creating a NFT is not free, right? And it's not cheap as well

I mean, if people have to pay to generate the image, and pay to turn that into NFT, would that be really profitable?

[wheat zodiac]

Is this sufficient editing? Film texture, black border and my logo next to dall-e’s logo

[potent lichen]

yes

[wheat zodiac]

It’s not the OG file

[potent lichen]

from my understanding from the webinar, it is sufficient. even changing one pixel and exporting it out would mean it is your file now

[wheat zodiac]

That’s what I understood as well!!! Seems Natali has said some new things to the latest webinar meeting regarding copyrights than to those before us and that’s where the confusion stems from

[elder cradle]

Well, there's a possibility that they could add to Dall-E a match percentage identified, if that gets added, then they can make it tell you what's sufficient or not.

[potent lichen]

i think they must have said similar things, but its just about the understanding what "dall-e file is" is what is causing confusion

[wheat zodiac]

I’m happy to generate free, superb, out of this world content for now. I think commercial will come in 1-3 months so let’s take this time to figure out how the fuck art and art commerce is going to evolve and be amongst the first to ride the waves of AI art 🤟

[tight pine]

And at this point Dall-E cover can look as good as commissioned art. Often times better, miles better (at least compared to many of books from our local authors).
Yeah no, this is just flat out wrong.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fantasy/comments/vp2ose/self_published_fantasy_releases_july_2022 Take a look at some of the recently self published fantasy novels and youll see that for many of them their covers are very well made. as someone who has been using Dall E 2 for a while now to try and create good characters it is very much not there yet.

"put some effort into it and commission an artist".. isnt this effort too, tho?
a lot less effort than getting a professional to do it with worse results.
you as the author can do whatever you want but as a longtime member of the fantasy community i can assure you that Dall-Es book covers cannot yet compete with professionally made book covers.
But, imo, "dall-e artists" is an inevitable outcome.
i wouldnt say. for all we know this could be the limit of what the technology is capable of. or its just the beginning. who knows. i wouldnt say with certainty that dall e artists will become a thing or more importantly be able to substitute professional artists.

[potent lichen]

i think it comes down to "file vs art". the file itself is not allowed to be commercially used. Art is allowed. But as with the real artists, you have to give credit to the artist in a proper way

[tight pine]

yes i absolutely believe so.

[elder cradle]

NFTs are a gamble, a nice image is not always the answer

[wheat zodiac]

Do you guys make money with NFTs? I get the hype, but I always thought its rich people buying it to launder money. I was shook to see ordinary people trying to flip NFTs for cash 😄 I been distancing myself from crypto, but seeing all the new platforms, collections, coins and what not makes me feel second hand embarrassment. Just my opinion tho

[potent lichen]

"Take a look at some of the recently self published fantasy novels and youll see that for many of them their covers are very well made. as someone who has been using Dall E 2 for a while now to try and create good characters it is very much not there yet."

yeah, well, that's those books. What if I want it to use for a philosophical book or something like that? Real cover for that can be real awful. Just take a look at the cover of "Brave New World" from our country. I still havent bought it cause I hate this cover so much, lmao..
https://mrtns.eu/tovar/_xl/241/xl241764.jpg?v=14654697901
It looks more like some autobiography about Huxley. I'd rather anything from Dall-E.

"a lot less effort than getting a professional to do it with worse results.
you as the author can do whatever you want but as a longtime member of the fantasy community i can assure you that Dall-Es book covers cannot yet compete with professionally made book covers."

depending on a budget you have. the commissioned work could look cheap as well.
well, for some reason you are focusing solely on fantasy book cover and nothing else. Ive tried some philosophical cover styles and it looks very interesting.. Ill post the pic below. And it is much better than whatever that Brave New World cover we have is.

"i wouldnt say. for all we know this could be the limit of what the technology is capable of. or its just the beginning. who knows. i wouldnt say with certainty that dall e artists will become a thing or more importantly be able to substitute professional artists."
it seems inevitable at this point. the technology is still improving and will get even better. Ive already seen "dall-e photographer" with some insane result. Yes, with PS being used to finish some stuff up, but Dalle isnt always supposed to be a one way stop. But a software in your creative process. (im gonna try to find the pic he did)

@tight pine here's the "book cover" example.
dont be focused on a pure fantasy book covers and seeing dall-e as incapable of doing book covers. that's just a limitation of seeing on what the book covers could be used. books have more than just "fantasy covers"

[wheat zodiac]

Can we talk about all of the disabled people who will have the opportunity to create art for the first time? I think that’s beautiful.

[potent lichen]

also you can use Dall-E image as a foundation for your artwork upon which you will improve what you want.

[amber dragon]

why the padding only work if i write a promt? and not like the bot says

[potent lichen]

@tight pine
here's the article with the picture the photographer created
https://petapixel.com/2022/07/01/photographers-should-own-the-copyright-to-their-ai-generated-photos/
if you spend the work and hours on your picture it definitely can look good and take as much time as a "real commissioned work".
it kinda sounds like a boomer talk (without offense) that the new technology wont be, or cant be, used for covers or somerthing

[tight pine]

personal opinion: NFTs and much of crypto are technology that destroys the planet to give solutions to problems that dont exist or have already been fixed in a much better way. furthermore the NFT and crypto community and market is full of scammers and people that steal art. there have been multiple posts already about rugpulls happening where people lost everything.

[elder cradle]

Guys, shouldn't this conversation be moved to other channel?

Or create a thread or something

[amber dragon]

this is question not general chatter!!!

[ornate herald]

I’m still on the fence about NFTs. I think blockchain tech is promising but the vibe around crypto in general right now just feels so scammy 🤣

I feel much more excited about AI tho I’m also nervous it’ll take my job as an artist someday haha. But I enjoy using it and it means a lot to me that OpenAI team takes AI risk mitigation seriously. I know this is powerful tech and I want it to be wielded responsibly

Sorry, just noticed this is the wrong channel for this 😅

[elder cradle]

I don't see any problems with NFT, I mean, if there's people buying it, that's their problem.
You can't really think that every single person creating NFTs will suddently go rich. Money comes from somewhere, you can't really make everyone rich, so it's a gamble, just like we see tons of really creative people making incredible stuff that never get the attention they deserved.

Money laundry with NTFs sound far fetch, crypto transactions has fees and there's always the possibility of devaluing, I don't think mobs would be buying some dumb monkey drawings for this.

I know artists that create impressive paintings and can barely live with that, if people with money are interesting of owning a digital file these days, so be it.

I would recommend artists to also join the NFT train if they want to bring more attention to their art.

The thing that people love about art is not randomness, it's consistency, and no AI can consistently make a style of anything. You may ask for a painting of a black cat and get cartoonish results, a orange cat and get realistic results.

Sure Dall-E can create stuff that looks nice, but doesn't mean that it alone make you an artist

I guess creating good prompts can become a kind of art by itself, but you can't beat an artist with their own distinct characteristics.

Even In-Painting is not perfect

Got this, wanted the left cat to be fully black

It got smaller in the process and lost the expression that made me like the drawing

[iron yew]

not what I expected, but results are beautiful! 😅

[wheat zodiac]

Keep reconfiguring your prompt structure and have in mind you have to be specific, and even then it’s no guarantee

[echo vortex]

how do you write the prompt to get these combos?

do you write just in beebear?

joke aside im curious how to prompt a hybrid animal

[verbal crag]

Hi! These was not made by me, check @dailydall.e on Instagram.
#community-help message

[echo vortex]

thanks

[cursive ice]

hey! how can new dalle users access the discord? my friend (eduardcn#2498) just got access but I cannot invite him. thx!!!

[elder cradle]

He should have received an email with it

[verbal crag]

Just stumbled upon this. 🤔
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/us-copyright-office-rules-ai-art-cant-be-copyrighted-180979808/#:~:text=The U.S. Copyright Office (USCO,ruling%2C%20which%20found%20his%20A.I.

[wheat zodiac]

Very interesting, but it's March 24! Do you think there have been any key developments since then?

[verbal crag]

Yes. Just last month. He wants the copyright. https://www.ipwatchdog.com/2022/06/06/thaler-pursues-copyright-challenge-denial-ai-generated-work-registration/id=149463/#

[wheat zodiac]

So interesting. Do you see OpenAI pushing for this?

As in becoming vocal the same way this guy Thaler is?

[verbal crag]

We'll have to see about that with the updated policy & terms before public release.

[tulip zodiac]

are we limited to just square aspect ratio?

[elder cradle]

Yes, but you can do some tricks to expand the images

[tulip zodiac]

just found this 🙂 nvm

[elder cradle]

For example, open on a image editing software, move half of the image outside the visible area, save a new file, upload it, select Edit, paint the blank area, describe the picture

Then you'll need to combine the two to get a larger image

[tulip zodiac]

ah that's helpful, thank you!

[elder cradle]

They call this Outpainting

[ornate herald]

@verbal crag @wheat zodiac Fascinating! Copyright law definitely needs to be updated to account for AI creative tools.

[signal iron]

Here's the artist's post on Instagram for the Bumblebear

https://www.instagram.com/p/CfKO--pPlFq/

dailydall.e

Meet my latest character… 𝗕𝘂𝗺𝗯𝗹𝗲𝗕𝗲𝗮𝗿! Raised on his own in the misty forest, this cute & cuddly bear thinks he’s a honey bee for obvious reasons… now if only he can find the honey pot! 🐝
.
DM me if you’d like to know the Dall•E prompts!
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This was also an amazing exercise in utilizing Dall•E to generate images around a single character based upo...

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[bronze valley]

Hey everyone, I reached my 50 requests for the day!
Is there a paid service to have more requests? or just beta for now?

[rough tundra]

just a beta!

and welcome

[bronze valley]

Thanks Lucas!

Just wanted to know, cause I'm addicted and need moreee XD

[rough tundra]

haha i keep on hitting the limit still too 🥴 been here almost a month

[bronze valley]

what kind of things are you creating?

[wheat zodiac]

hahahaha I am on my 7th day and it was only today I didn't immediately generate stuff once I had the chance 😄 its definitely mind blowing

[cerulean fractal]

didnt work

tried 🧐 , 🧐 digital art

among significantly more complicated prompts as well

[atomic shoal]

Does the limit not always restart to 50 again? Earlier it said to wait 30 minutes, then I could only do one generation and then it said this

[keen hamlet]

I think the timer is per prompt.

[atomic shoal]

Oh so the 23.5 applies to each of the 50?

[keen hamlet]

Yup, I think each prompt has its own timer. At least that is what has been said in other threads, as I understand it. Someone else may have more clear information.

[atomic shoal]

Then guess I’ll wait much longer since I like doing a lot at a time haha

[sacred cave]

haha i burned mine up within 2 hours on the first 3 days of access, now im trying to at least have 2 prompts an hour to use at all times

[atomic shoal]

I just got Dall-e on Friday before the weekend so I’ve definitely been spending mine up way too fast 😂

[verbal crag]

You'd get addicted for the first few days! The timer helps managing it. Lol

[clear widget]

How can I view ALL of my historic generations?

[potent lichen]

btw, Natalie mentioned something about a possibility of someone's prompt generated image being shown on their instagram, iirc. Is there a way how to get there? just posting pics here or you should post the pic on your instagram and tag the OpenAI's account?

[verbal crag]

Browser history.

[verbal crag]

On the website, you can scroll to the bottom, there's a button that leads to a form.

[potent lichen]

you mean this?

[verbal crag]

You scrolled too far 😁 it's below the example images.

It's on labs.openai.com

[potent lichen]

this?

[verbal crag]

Yes

[potent lichen]

what happens if I click, "Publish" when I generate the image

does it get submitted?

[verbal crag]

It creates a public link for you to share.

[verbal crag]

I don't think so.. but I'm not sure about that.

[potent lichen]

only that then? okay.. so I have to manually submit generation through this if I wanna get a chance to be featured then

thanks 🙂

[potent lichen]

hey guys, which Tag should we use on instagram? I've seen it somewhere, but cant recall where .. something like #dalle or #dalle2 ?

[coarse bone]

Hi, i was thinking to try the prompt "it's raining man" like the song. Do you think it could be flagged? this prompt without style could generate something absurd or something gory, that could be flagged

[elder cradle]

I can't see any reason for this to be flagged lol

[wheat zodiac]

Nope, I’ve done some raining men with no problem

[coarse bone]

perfect, thanks

[split hazel]

I'd use both #dalle and #dalle2, you could also throw in #aiart and other more general tags for wider reach

The website tells you to use #dalle though, if that's what you're asking

[potent lichen]

yes, thank you. I've used dalle and dalle2 but was not sure which one they wanted. Im gonna add aiart cuase it sounds realaly interesting, thanks! 🙂

[slender oak]

Idk how to evaluate this...
Input phrase was

An article explaining about the advancements in Dalle 69

[wheat zodiac]

Trying to tell us that in 2069 Humans have merely become nothing but food and energy source for the AI overlords 👹🤖

[slender oak]

This sparked some curiosity.
As to what dalle2 would think future to look like

[steel quartz]

What is the optimal pixel size to upload an image as input?

[long lily]

1024x1024 i guess

[spring wyvern]

It's just #dalle (it comes up when you choose 'share' and copy the link)

[pliant osprey]

I wish it would automatically copy taht link

[jolly widget]

I just reached 1000 images in my collection, it says that's the maximum, is there any way to take things out of my collection?

[past geyser]

Yeah, three dot dropdown on the image pop-up

[jolly widget]

darn that will take a while. i wish i could keep everything!!! ugh i am obsessed

[potent lichen]

ah, exactly! Thanks! 😄 I was checking the e-mails, website all around and couldnt find it, ah.. 😄 thanks

[jolly widget]

thank you also...

[spring wyvern]

Does anyone remember the person - or indeed, are YOU the person - who used DALL-E to generate assets for a kind of AR (Instagram filter?) experience? It was black-and-white-and-doodley and I think it was shared on the OpenAI Instagram story.

[viscid drum]

When can we pay for more access lol

[torn terrace]

I use Image Assistant to bulk download and store locally -- they support curl or just using the UI (just make sure to follow the directions to turn off "ask where to download" if you want to pull a lot at once) https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/imageassistant-batch-imag/dbjbempljhcmhlfpfacalomonjpalpko?hl=en

[bitter wing]

does OpenAI/Dall-E support ever work?

it's been a week since i dropped them a question on chat, and later over email.

the chat messages are marked as "Not seen" after a week.

any idea if there's a place one can turn for support?

I've seen the help pages and the community support pages, but I'm curious about support from OpenAI directly.

[pure dune]

Ive reached 1k collection size and its saying i cant add any more

[past geyser]

I believe the OpenAI team are on a break until mid July

[rain swan]

Same! I have been trying to email them as I can't log in but no reply.

[rough tundra]

i think they're on vacation!

[verbal crag]

"support@ is stretched super thin in general (we're working on expanding), and most of our team is on vacation until 7/11"

They're a small team but working on expanding after the 11th

[sacred cave]

remove some and see if it works?

[sacred cave]

i'm trying to replace this house with a house designed by another architect, but in painting is not working , anyone have any ideas?

the results so far are ehh

[bitter wing]

thank you :)

[placid leaf]

I'm having this issue, anyone else?

[placid river]

Each prompt renews 23.5 hours after use so prompts can be staggered depending what time you use them.

[marsh vessel]

Yeah each individual prompt is on it's own timer

If you want to use them all at once, you need to wait a full 23.5 hours not using any for them all to time out

Would be really handy if they showed the timers somewhere...

[verbal crag]

#suggestions message

[odd crater]

Is the word "hell" not allowed to use?

[wheat zodiac]

Nope

[pure dune]

Removing works

But i don’t want to remove 🙂

[sacred cave]

i’ve been saving everything in a cloud folder

[odd crater]

I wonder why I got a content policy warning for "a hell themed Wheel of fortune"

[wheat zodiac]

Because of Hell 😁

[odd crater]

Okay, will be even more careful in future 😅

[wheat zodiac]

Truly a pity! I love Hell imagery

[sacred cave]

maybe use fire and describe how big it is and where it is

[coarse bone]

is pepe the frog banned? i got a warning with the prompt "renaisance oil painting of pepe the frog"

[split hazel]

Does Dall-E care about letter case in prompts?

[turbid harness]

Can we use a DALLE generated image as an album cover with watermark?

[turbid harness]

yeah unfortunately it seems to be

[verbal crag]

Still a grey area for that one. I'd wait until DALL-E 2 goes public for the updated terms & policy.

[turbid harness]

Thanks! I like how you added the DALLE watermark on your pfp :D

[verbal crag]

You can make yours too. Head to #dall-e-bot and type "! watermark" without spaces and quotes.

[turbid harness]

Oh wow lemme try!

[sacred cave]

I’m two hours way from a prompt reset, but has anyone tried to see if you can put a house on a photo of an empty plot of land?

it would be cool to take pics of a house or lot and create different architecture ideas

[subtle ingot]

hmm interesting idea

i might take u up on that

[sacred cave]

I tried with an image last night and didn’t really work that well, but maybe my inpainting technique wasn’t good enough

[subtle ingot]

ive tried many realism

its not easy to get it right

a soup of styles in a specific order might do the trick

but you'll have to spend prompts to test it

[sacred cave]

yeah i think the realismo throws it off , but even then, could it turn it into an illustration instead while keeping the photo layout in tact?

this is what i did last night

[subtle ingot]

i did not come far but im sure i can pull it off

[subtle ingot]

im like half

[subtle ingot]

wow

u just opened up a whole new niche

for Architectural design

consider me amazed

[sacred cave]

haha yeah im big on reality manipulation

but the thing is , i might have to change the style of the way the photo is taken by adding like “unreal engine” or something

i actually haven’t tried to see if i can turn a regular photo of a house into a illustration. maybe that’s the order i need to do it in. convert to illlustration in a style i want, then do inpainting to get the specific location of the house

[subtle ingot]

ya know i think what you do is a combination of Augmented Reality

thats pretty cool 😄

its def a form of

i think this might be a very useful application

just imagine, a client asking how his house would look like if ...

and all u do is erase the visual parts, ask dall-e

voila

[sacred cave]

haha yeah i’m an AR designer at snap and meta

doing freelance

[subtle ingot]

see, i fkn had feels ud be

i knew it

[sacred cave]

but yeah i think this could really change on different variations of real life!

[subtle ingot]

for me i had also proposed usage for dall-e in medical/psychiatry

[sacred cave]

instead of depending on content from the database

[subtle ingot]

i explain to them that, unfortunate ppl that had accidents or born in a way that expressing is made impossible

and dall-e would be THE way to allow them to do that again

[sacred cave]

yeah that would be amazing!!

[subtle ingot]

coz these ppl would be bored as hell, imagine having no ability to express urself?

id be very upset

[sacred cave]

for me dalle eliminates the actual labor and time of creating and gives more time to be creative

time is money

[subtle ingot]

to think dall-e is not even running full power hahahahaha

u guys ^^

[sacred cave]

lmfao facts

[subtle ingot]

if they would set dall-e to full potential, that be scary

i know coz Codex is the same way

[sacred cave]

oh yeah?

how so

[subtle ingot]

let me show ya

ive got access as well to the other labs/test facilities of their

s

alright, give me 3 random names/objects/places

just anything

@sacred cave

[sacred cave]

sorry just had to drive, Kirby , Zach, Phil - Stapler, Bug Spray, Satellite - Rockaway Beach, Duomo Milan, London Tower

[subtle ingot]

no biggie 😉

setting it up, gimme a sec

@sacred cave

so my point in here is, "it" wants to keep going...forever

so these networks must be kept in a "balancer"

u can see even if i instructed to "max 120" it still wanted to continue

but it does a good job 🙂

i sometimes use Codex to give Dall-e idea's

Davinci is one hell of a powerful AI designed for textual tasks

the applications keep on going...and going

one after another they invent usages for these networks

is crazy

its just doesnt stop

ppl are so creative

i can play with this, all day, every day. no questions asked lol

and i think everyone feels the same hehehe

[sacred cave]

Oh yeah i just realized i got access to Codex too a while ago lmao

[subtle ingot]

hehe

[verbal crag]

@left sky As per their email last June 22, yes, I'm sure.

[left sky]

Yeah that was exactly what I was referring to, I've read that content policy and it says you cannot upload realistic faces and share them :c

[verbal crag]

"upload" — pertaining to the uploading of images to be used in the Edit & Variations feature of DALL•E

[left sky]

oh that's great! thanks!! I probably got confused with what they said in the conference ^^"

[craggy haven]

Is there any button to delete all of my collection?

[split orchid]

Is OpenAi website working? I can't login

[odd crater]

Yeah I worked around with "fire and lava themed..."

[verbal crag]

Not at the moment

[verbal crag]

Yes

[subtle ingot]

this .... ffs lol

1k limit

i was over that in no time

[split orchid]

🤔 well...

[subtle ingot]

i figured i used DeviantArt as archive, but for the love of god, DeviantArt as 0 batch upload features

sucks

one by one ...same goes for tags

all manually

thats a hard no

[signal iron]

Woah... I can log in to DALLE right now in and even though my reset time is 17:25 MDT, i was able to generate animate (albeit one of their "surprise me" ones, so maybe those are free?)

[subtle ingot]

rly?

didnt know that

[signal iron]

Tried my own prompt and it worked too... maybe the lockout timer is broken 🙂

[subtle ingot]

hmm

[signal iron]

I'm sure I'll be locked out until tomorrow at this time, but it sure beats having to wait until 5:00 PM

Ah, pooh. I must've had some prompts left over that I had forgot about... got to do about ten and now I have to wait for four more hours 🙂

[remote elk]

does someone know why when I try to enter labs.openai.com from my phone browser it just shows a blank page?

I have no way to use dalle from my phone ):

[rough tundra]

try clearing your cookies, that works for me whenever it happens

[past geyser]

What browser / OS? I turned it into a home screen web app with chrome / android and it works really well, just need to close and restart it occasionally

[remote elk]

I tried with chrome and brave now, using Android, I also made the home screen thing but it sends me to the same blank page

[past geyser]

As @rough tundra said clear your cookies (and maybe your cache), restart your phone, and if none of that works I'm outta ideas 😅

[remote elk]

I tried factory resetting my phone a while ago to fix something else, and that didn't fix this issue

I guess I just won't be able to use it from my phone at all

I tried using Firefox now and same thing

I also tried using the desktop site thing but again, same thing

[past geyser]

Very weird - sorry!

[marsh vessel]

Given how all these have pretty much the exact same faces, pose and devices, does it feel to you like it might be breaking some IP of whatever the source is for these ones at this point?
Interesting that this prompt had no real difference in variations for the camera and faces of this

“High speed food photography of mascots with suits”

Ran it again to make sure it wasn’t a one-off

[past geyser]

Yeah. I've had similar issues with niche prompts that seemed to be replicating a specific image.

[rugged wing]

How does Dall-e think or imagine?

[verbal crag]

https://cdn.openai.com/papers/dall-e-2.pdf

[rugged wing]

I still don't understand.

Summarize this for a second-grade student:

A high-level overview of unCLIP. Above the dotted line, we depict the CLIP training process, through which we learn a joint representation space for text and images. Below the dotted line, we depict our text-to-image generation process: a CLIP text embedding is first fed to an autoregressive or diffusion prior to produce an image embedding, and then this embedding is used to condition a diffusion decoder which produces a final image. Note that the CLIP model is frozen during training of the prior and decoder.

UnCLIP is a model that is trained to learn a joint representation space for text and images. This means that when given a text description, the model should be able to generate an image that corresponds to that text. The model is made up of two parts: a CLIP text embedding, which is a text representation that is fed into an autoregressive or diffusion prior, and a diffusion decoder, which is an image representation that is used to produce a final image.

is the generated image Dall-e's imagination?

[past geyser]

It's not really imagination as you or I have it. It's more like trial and error: it's trained to connect language to images, and using massive graphical processing power it works with a baseline of regressed noise to generate something like what the words provided should look like. I'm no AI expert though so hopefully someone can correct me / explain better.

[bitter wing]

does anyone know if it's fine by OpenAI to use a pseudonym instead of real name during sign up?

[steel eagle]

(username)
and
(first name & last name)
is different

i use my real name btw

[wheat zodiac]

It bugs on my laptop as well, if I use Safari I can’t use the dalle website, only works on Brave Browser (for me)

[pliant osprey]

AI does not think or imagine, it plots input to a curve. The curve has far more than 3 dimensions. The more you train the model, the better it is at plotting inputs along that curve.

There's probably better ways of explaining it without using calculus

[spring wyvern]

What are some good 'aesthetics' or art movements that apply to multiple kinds of subject?
i.e: that have analogs across paintings, physical media, architecture, product design, materials, lighting...

A few I can think of:

• Art deco
• Gothic
• Vaporwave
• Memphis

[subtle ingot]

whats memphis do ?

i thougt that to be a city? 😛

[subtle ingot]

😛

[spring wyvern]

https://www.creativebloq.com/inspiration/10-iconic-examples-of-memphis-design '80s swirling shapes'

[subtle ingot]

owww is that how they call it ?

i was under impression this was a twist on the Pop-art style,

[spring wyvern]

yeah i only discovered it had a 'name' at an exhibition a few years ago, before that I just thought it was like... 'the late 80s early 90s, put a zig zag on it'

[subtle ingot]

i see, thanks for that

[subtle ingot]

well since u gave me a good style 😄 ill give u one i recently found out that Carbon fiber gives quite the results

[coral atlas]

Is there a way to see how many prompts you have left?

[subtle ingot]

i wonder this myself

lol

[verbal crag]

#suggestions message

[craggy haven]

Which is the best site to upload all of my generations of Dall-E 2? With albums and all

[subtle ingot]

ehm

i thought DeviantArt.com but their uploading system is rather.... slow

@craggy haven

but its nice too

DeviantArt fans rly enjoy dall-e lately

they prob seen the wave incoming thru their channels

and i got a lot of question they had, they are very interested

so thats good

they have yet to make a niche for it tho 😛

or group

[craggy haven]

I was trying to upload them to imgur, but the app in the phone dont work at all, i cant see the images i upload there

i will try deviant art so, thanks :)

also how i can find you in deviant art? @subtle ingot

[subtle ingot]

ehm

https://www.deviantart.com/dutchiedutch

thats me

[craggy haven]

I have to say i really liked your Dall E 2 robots

they are very original

[subtle ingot]

its a style 😛

im sure u found or have yet to find yours

its a journey 😄

[craggy haven]

Yes, is hard to find a style

I liked my robot capys and elephants, but i do some horses and cows that dont viewed at great as the capys and elephants

[subtle ingot]

u can use my prompts as base lad

we share 😄

[remote elk]

tried everything but couldn't find a solution, it might be my android version or something idk

[rancid night]

Oh my goshhhhhh the furry robots!

[subtle ingot]

lol

[long thicket]

So we are allowed to make prints and sell those? I know for sure we aren't allowed to sell the digital files.

[subtle ingot]

wait till u see my fluffed up ones 😛

#art-and-illustrations message

[long lily]

no commercial use at the moment

[elder cradle]

But they said on the Zoom call that we could sell it if printed or edited, just not the original file or NFTs...

Reason being that they don't have the paperwork just yet to transfer the rights of the original generated image to us

[past geyser]

It seems different information was given informally to those in the artist program with onboarding than those of us who were just given beta access directly. The official T&C information prohibits commercial use - if you want clarification you'll have to contact whoever it was who spoke to you about this.

[subtle ingot]

nft's ?

hmm i wouldnt know :S

[brave cypress]

Has anyone tried generating font images / trying to get any stylistic text? I'm aware that DALLE struggles with it but thought I'd see how badly it struggles 🤣

[verbal crag]

Check #daily-theme: #daily-theme message

[spring wyvern]

Cesar, on the call they used the term 'transformative use' so, if you create a painting based on a DALL-E image or something like that, it's OK - probably just 'printing it out' doesn't count... I agree more clarity is needed

[wheat zodiac]

Today is the last day of their vacation you guys

Answers are coming soon

🤟🙏

[coral atlas]

So are we allowed to publicly share realistic face generations or not? Still confused

[subtle ingot]

i did ye, it is sorta hard, but best is to use upload to apply a certain way

tried to depict textual fonts with "Life"

and decoration, its somewhat ..ok ?!

dall-e is really eager to fill in empty spots, like almost as if its a mission XD

but nice is ... different

but dalle has other things she excels in, i mean i tried marble busts yesterday.... wow

that shit was so good

dalle even filled in the reflection in the base plate

thats neat

if someone told me "thats a blender render" i'd believed them

[brave cypress]

Thanks so much for the insight!

Marble's so interesting, I tried "marble sculptures of flames, in an artist's studio" a while back!

[subtle ingot]

u can basically marbilize (just made that made up lol) any ...thing

but also works very very well, clouds, glass

with+

[brave cypress]

And as product renders:

[subtle ingot]

glass also works wonderfully well

[subtle ingot]

i like it

even the diffusion of the water

of the light

[brave cypress]

That refraction is amazing!

[subtle ingot]

exactly

dalle is trained with glass and marble 100%

[brave cypress]

What was the prompt?

[subtle ingot]

she's aware of raycasting as well matter fact some researchers use AI as render engine (if u see that stuff, u prolly just get quite how good that is)

let me get u the prompt

[brave cypress]

Cheers :)

[subtle ingot]

Glass poison pot, <prompt of liquid or contents inside the pot>, Center View, Studio Lighting, Realistic

@brave cypress

u follow the prompt? the < and > u gotta replace with something u want

[brave cypress]

Ooh that's officially on my list of things to explore

[subtle ingot]

u can also remove the "poison" part

that came from the original person who made the one i saw first

u can even add Museum Showcase that one actually defines usually a nice glare and case

[brave cypress]

That's perfect! Thanks for the link

[subtle ingot]

this is with the museum tag

drastic change but nice

also works with Condensed water

bubbles

foam

beer XD

soda's

[brave cypress]

Gosh I'm constantly in awe of this tech

[subtle ingot]

or ya know fantasy liquids

hehe well be welcome to the realm my friend 😄

AI realm

is not for everyone

most dont even know what to do with it

[brave cypress]

Have you tried playing with liquid transitions from one thing to another? I got this by accident and it's next on my list:

[subtle ingot]

ehm good question

[subtle ingot]

i havn't

but now u mentioned it ..

i will

i also noticed dall-e is incredible good in making fantasy creatures

like no other

even Designers go "ay ..u cheating?"

i shit u not

[brave cypress]

We should probably move thread 🤣

[subtle ingot]

yeah 😄

i think it be alright

[elder cradle]

They literally told "you can print on a shirt or banner and sell it", I see that I should have recorded the call 🙄
I'm not telling what I've interpreted but exactly their words.

[wheat zodiac]

+1 for this, I remember this call (I’m not sure we were on the same one), but as I said before, NFTs are not my cup of tea, I’m interested in physical art and I made sure to ask multiple times!

She (Natalie) said the digital file we download from OpenAI is prohibited from being sold or shared to anyone.

But again, they may have said one thing two weeks ago which isn’t in alignment with their plans anymore, so truly the best option for us is to wait it out and anticipate an official statement from the OpenAI team soon!

[subtle ingot]

well if thats the case, then sure. but before i personally wouldnt go any further i need to be 100% sure, ideally on black and white.

not eager to get sued XD

[naive moth]

Can results be fed into a third party AI to make derivatives? And if so, could the results from that be sold as prints?

[subtle ingot]

ehm ...

[subtle ingot]

i find this hard to get right, coz there are some hooks and eyes on that

ur lucky one of the Dalle crew is here

u can ask urself

[long lily]

do we have some update regarding the credit system

[subtle ingot]

@long lily @naive moth have patience, they are busy on it.

[craggy haven]

What is that of credit system?

[subtle ingot]

https://openai.com/api/pricing/

prob similar in design

if not that slightly the same

😂

is what im thinking

[long lily]

i meant the coming ability to buy additional prompts.

[craggy haven]

ohh i understand

and the people that actually have access to the AI would have to pay to use Dall-e 2 after the commercial launch?

[subtle ingot]

dunnow yet,

well i know as much as you do is as what im saying

😂 in that regard

@craggy haven

[long lily]

good scenario for user experience would be the continue of free 50 prompts per day with option to buy additional credits

[craggy haven]

i would like that scenario too

[subtle ingot]

i feel like that falls in their IMO ... sort of ..

like i dont know, but it would be a thing fitting in their style

[long lily]

on days when I dalle used and experimented in a more spontaneous way: i had the feeling that towards the end of my credit, around 40, just before 50 attempts i had found a good basis, be it newly found prompts/themes /the point of refining prompts to reach the satisfying point or in a good case a number of samples I would like to develop further then. that would be quite possible with the upcoming credit system-if you are in the flow of the idea/the process you could continue seamlessly--for example:new ideas or an different view of the started sketch overran me a few times in the course of the reload phase, which was a good 22 hours on average (I constantly work it through)

[humble lava]

Here I come again with upload questions. What kind of uploaded image could be considered fair use? I know that the last answer was that it will depend a lot on my use for the image, however, for now we have no commercial use for any of the images, just using them for variations or making edits to portions of the images, and who gets to use the actual uploaded images on training and stuff is Openai, so this is more on their side.

[subtle ingot]

i think the limiting wasnt just only to reduce server load, i think there is such a thing as being oversaturated with thinking too much of fantasizing

i like to believe u can do things "too" much and become the opposite temporary...

so the limit feels stern but fair.

i would have peace with such an agreement 😛

@long lily

[cerulean fractal]

judging by how openai works on other things, I would say don't expect any free gens aside from each user having a once per lifetime free X

[subtle ingot]

that could also be, yeah

but speculating wont make us feel better 😛

lets talk about it when it actually is.

[tender void]

Does anyone have any clarity on the policy around derivatives or transformative art based on a "generation"? I know that the actual file can't be used for commercial purposes, but what about art made with the generation as the inspiration or as a part of the process?

[cerulean fractal]

Hasnt been stated

[sonic stone]

Is there anywhere I can read about forthcoming plans to release DALL-E as an API? (esp. around early betas to help testing with safety etc) I've got a couple prototypes I'd love to build

[rain swan]

Is OpenAI back from holidays? The support team are still not responding to emails.

[tight pine]

thats not going to happen. barely anyone will buy prompts then. 50 are enough for most people.

they will most likely not give any free prompts to anyone at all or if they do its either a very small number per day/month or a one time thing like with the free credits for gpt3

[proud osprey]

Why is craiyon better at pop culture stuff? Dalle clearly understands certain stuff such as characters are supposed to look a certain way but it's still way different, while craiyon seems to get it right pretty much every time

[tight pine]

dunno but i know what you mean.
search for "ahsoka" in the search bar

[proud osprey]

Yeah, i used to think it was a copyright thing but it understands Darth Vader, Yoda, Mario, and the Simpsons

[tight pine]

@proud osprey found it.

it has a consistent design for ahsoka that is reminiscent of her but not the same

[brave relic]

It all comes down to differences in the training data I would speculate. Craiyon’s was probably was less selective than openAI. I bet they love answering questions about other models lol

[subtle ingot]

definitly 😄 #weird-gens-and-misfires message

[fleet marten]

One of my friends just got the invite he cannot find where to join the discord and I cannot remember where the link was, is it thru the site or email ?

[humble lava]

Is soviet filtered again?

[torpid umbra]

Has anyone figured out a way to so a series of "de-cropped" images, while maintaining the style and level of detail of the original? Here's the first image I generated compared to the fourth in the series. I've tried tweaking the prompt with words like "very detailed", but it always seems to diverge and get more abstract with each generation.

[wheat zodiac]

Try soviet-style or soviet-era!

[elder cradle]

Well, the only possible way would be if instead of zooming out, you just move the image and leave a blank space on one of the sides

Cause when you zoom it out, it's natural that brush strokes will get smaller until you can't see it

[torpid umbra]

Sorry I meant that the detail of the new inpainted region is substantially less than the original portion (even when scaled down), eventually trending towards very simple abstract shapes. Have noticed this problem when extended horizontally as well. It makes sense given that each iteration is more likely to have less detail than more.. just curious if anyone has found a trick to maintain detail.

[past geyser]

I would say it's being lazy with the expansion because it already sees detail it likes in the centre of the frame. You could counter it by being very explicit with describing things in the framing area, or forcing it to add new detail by being dissonant with what already exists

[humble lava]

Dudes, I got another invitation in another email. Do you guys think I can give the invitation to another person or would that break rules?

I'm waiting for Joanne to reply my pm about this issue

But in the meantime maybe it happened to another person and it already got answered!

||Yes, I submitted two emails. Long story short, one was personal, one was casual, and one had more social media links than the other||

[clear vector]

is there a list somewhere of all the words that break the content policy?

[verbal crag]

No. (officially)

[clear vector]

excellent

[verbal crag]

Creating one would be a bad idea IMHO. Might give people the incentive to weave around the policy.

[clear vector]

I see

well, someone in my server just started making one

[verbal crag]

Thus my comment.

[tight pine]

i also got two invite emails. Joanne told me that its no big deal but you obviously should not use the other access, be it for yourself or someone else.

just let the other invite email rot

[humble lava]

That's sad

[burnt drift]

Hi everybody! Are we allowed to publicly post photo-realistic faces of NON-existent people fully generated by DALL E, without any input image? Sometimes I spot them on the web... 🤔

[verbal crag]

without any input image
What do you mean by this?

[burnt drift]

I mean, WITHOUT uploading a source image, e.g. a selfie or any real person picture

[verbal crag]

Yes. As long as you mention that the image is made by an AI.

[burnt drift]

Thanks! 🙂

[subtle ingot]

done that from day 1, always placed a reference of "Made with ..."

im not foolling anyone XD

[burnt drift]

I never posted online my pics, so I was double checking 🙂

[subtle ingot]

well u dont have to anything with them perse

[burnt drift]

Also, I was planning to label "Made with" but still I wondered if that kind of content was ok

[subtle ingot]

but if we do, we must inform our viewers

its a courtesy i rekon

[proud osprey]

Is it just my internet or is dalle taking longer to generate stuff

[verbal crag]

It's because of this https://twitter.com/sama/status/1547212678644371457?s=20&t=gYB78yAx9sKbGxkBWXXUOTr3ibBoHUYA0rNy9y_ozp8

Sam Altman (@sama)

we have now given dall-e 2 access to 100,000 users. next goal: 1 million.

our team worked incredibly hard to make this happen; thank you!

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[main quiver]

is anone else struggling to upload images rn?? im trying to inpaint on a previously generated image to try make an animation, but i can click the upload button. its been an hour of me refreshing the page 😦

[main quiver]

oh this might be the problem🫤

[wheat zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/so-it-begins-raining-rainy-day-théoden-lord-of-the-rings-gif-16521230

[rancid night]

@neat bridge I know you’ve declared discord bankruptcy so just wanted to flag this in case you missed them, there are some questions in the back scroll around what are the commercial usage rights on dalle generations. In particular, people seem to have gotten different advice (using the digital file “as is” as a (say) nft is obviously bad, printing the digital file “as is” on paper or a tshirt some people were told is fine). Some clarification around that would be nice when you have a second! ❤️

(And also how much manual editing you need to do to a generation to stop being dalle’s and start being “yours”, which is an existential question I struggle with daily)

[verbal crag]

To add, it is also conflicting with the terms of use.

Some clarification would indeed be nice.

[torpid umbra]

Thanks for the tip!

[wheat zodiac]

Hey guys, the OpenAI just returned from vacation and we are seeing a big influx of new people. I think this isn't an accident and we must be getting some news regarding copyrights soon 🔮 ✨ patience is key

[signal iron]

Here's why...

https://twitter.com/sama/status/1547212678644371457

Sam Altman (@sama)

we have now given dall-e 2 access to 100,000 users. next goal: 1 million.

our team worked incredibly hard to make this happen; thank you!

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[wheat zodiac]

Yes, this is the situation I’m referring to 😇

[brave relic]

I am seeing discussions on various unofficial groups from some people mentioning that prompts they were getting realistic faces from are now returning worse results than before. Is this indicative of some behind the scenes changes corresponding to the ongoing opening up to increasingly larger amount of users? (Or just unfounded speculation on my part?)

[rough tundra]

check out #bugs-and-issues, we're trying to understand the same thing

[past geyser]

Looks fine to me

There's always the risk of psyching yourself out with DALL·E because results can vary so wildly. The idea that something changed to make it "worse" seems to also arise alongside an influx of new users

[brave relic]

I personally haven’t been generating much images of late so I can’t say I noticed this myself, just curious about what other folks are saying, I agree it’s easy to psych yourself out. But yeah the convo going on in the bugs channel is interesting. I have faith in the openAI Team! 🥰

[real furnace]

Does anyone notice a drop-off in image quality after a number of generations? In prompts I've run multiple times, I notice the resultant images become more and more washed out and less well-defined than in my earlier generations.

[tough tusk]

Who knows why "art by Philippe Caza" is blocked?

[past geyser]

Blocked with a warning or just not giving expected results?

[verbal crag]

Probably because of his work? ||https://scifinet.net/philippe-caza/|| (<- NSFW link)

[tough tusk]

Warning .

[past geyser]

Yeah it's because of his sexually explicit art style

[tough tusk]

Frazetta , Boris Vallejo, Rubens, Beksinski, Moebius and Giger also have wotks with nudity but are OK

[verbal crag]

Probably slipped pass the filter.

[past geyser]

It's likely that whatever source DALL·E used ONLY had sexually explicit Caza imagery

[tough tusk]

It's a pity

[past geyser]

I guess. His work is cool but pretty plainly not within the G-rated remit of DALL·E

[tough tusk]

It's fun that some people think that Cazo is NSFW. Have they ever be in art museum?)

[tough tusk]

Frankly speaking never thaught that he has so many nudity. I always show his works to students

[verbal crag]

I count ten for the first page in the link I sent.

Also, it's the AI that portrays Cazo as NSFW. Not some people.

[mint agate]

https://youtu.be/rn-0bmGbris Stumbled upon this video and was wondering if the inability to use celebrity likeness has loosened up? I got flagged for attempting a watercolor of one a while back, so I’m not sure if it’s opened up or if the people they used in the video just slipped through the cracks. I’m a little out of the loop on everything but I try my best to stay up to date

[subtle ingot]

not even AI itself could answer that

lol

[cerulean fractal]

you arent supposed to, some just slipped through

I dont think it BLOCKS creations of celebs in nonrealistic mediums most of the time

but you still arent supposed to make them

though, this could be interpreted in such a way that you can

[rough tundra]

also it might have been made before that rule took into effect (june 22nd), but uploaded most recently

also also love that channel!

[craggy haven]

A friend asked me to do a kawaii version of Lenin, are cartoon of that type of political figures prohibited or baneable?

[past geyser]

I think historical figures are ok

[proud osprey]

Is it possible to flag a warning as incorrect??

[subtle ingot]

that is weird, might be due to not a word but symbol or illegal char

i have the feeling they also do a "injection exploit" prevention

%20 is often used in this process

it signifies a space

(encoding)

but u can always ask in Bugs XD

[wheat zodiac]

Didn’t they have a random 20% bug recently? Maybe they applied a quick fix and flagged everything 20% related?

[proud osprey]

I think it's a bug I generated other 20 percent stuff fine

[subtle ingot]

very possible

i'd report it, just to make sure

[keen hamlet]

"two hamsters. one of them is 20% smaller than the other."

[short salmon]

Is it possible to share my entire collection with someone? It would be awesome if we could have a permanent link to our collections. Also is there any way to download everything in our collections as a zip file? That would also be a great feature.

[subtle ingot]

use DevaintArt.com

sorta easier..but not the best solution

[sullen sierra]

@neat bridge I have a bit of a fringe question, but I was wondering - Will there ever be a time that "generations made but not saved to you collection" will be wiped? I started saving a bunch of my generations to bookmarks so I could retrieve them when I had hit the previous 1000 limit in my collection. I hope I asked my question in the right way...

[neat bridge]

We don't currently have any plans to wipe them, but we probs can't commit to those images existing forever!

I'm curious: is there a reason why you bookmarked them instead of downloading them / saving them into a cloud folder?

[sullen sierra]

Sure, well, I hit my 1000 limit is the practical reason I started, and now it's more of a reflex to bookmark the generation page. And I do save "my favourites" by downloading them sometimes, but only my "absolute favorites" or ones I think will be useful as reference in my active projects, or ones I want to share with friends or online.

But the utility of saving them "in dalle" is actually for ease of "using them later for edit/variations" rather than re-uploading them. I also generate so many, often hitting my daily limit, that dalle just kind of keeps them much more organised that I do in a big folder. Maybe I could be better at self organisation, to be fair.

[sullen sierra]

Also, thanks for the answer. That makes total sense, I wouldn't really expect you to have been saving them this long actually. I thought initially you'd wipe non-saved generations with the 24 hour reset tbh. Glad you don't though, for now, heh

[neat bridge]

But the utility of saving them "in dalle" is actually for ease of "using them later for edit/variations" rather than re-uploading them
This was my hypothesis, but wanted to confirm that -- thank you!

@sullen sierra (and others feel free to chime in!) can you tell me more about how you navigate your giant collection and why? are you often searching for a very specific image with a caption in mind? or is it to browse + admire?

[velvet pendant]

I like how the collection looks with all my best works together, I think it'd be cool if there were like custom scrapbooks we could fill with groups of our images together. also feel like the 3 wide collection can be slow to scroll down to find stuff

[sullen sierra]

I have found what I call "sweet spots" where Dalle generates things that just inspire me. Endlessly. For example, Lord of the Rings locations, or "Fantasy Cities" or "Space Ships" or visualising images from my personal writing. So, my giant collection is compartmentalised in my mind into "work and play" and subgroups - practically, I save images because I can see them informing/inspiring a piece of writing, or a piece of art I want to make, or they're just plain reference.

Or, following advice from my art teacher in high school "never screw up a piece of paper and throw it away if you don't like the drawing, you never know how you'll see it again tomorrow" and I feel the same with Dalle. I often go in with an idea, or a goal of what I want Dalle to show me, and often I get that, but then also five incredible other images... So... I like to save them so I can look at them another day when I'm not looking for something specific and see what that sparks, or what that inspires.

At the moment, I navigate by key word, or by artist, or by whatever the "Sweet Spot" is (Fantasy City, Cats with Hats [thats not one but it could be, you understand haha]) I tend to accrue "collections" almost exclusively and there are often very few "one offs" for me. I guess practically I "save" an image to my Dalle collection if I would be mortified to ever lose that image and forget some nuance, or some idea that it gave me when I first looked at it, it's really quite personal. I do the same with real-life things, books, art books, music, images, too, really.

[neat bridge]

super interesting, thank you both!

@sullen sierra if every single image you've ever generated were saved by default, how would that affect what you save?

[sullen sierra]

I would save
"ones that blow my mind right out of my skull and into the stratosphere" and
"ones that I will definitely refer to in my art or writing or work in some way" and
"ones I really have to show my friends/partner" and
"ones to share on the internet because they're cool and would make a great collection" and
"if i lost this image I would never forgive myself because it's too special and the future generations must know of this" and... I think that's it.

[neat bridge]

do you currently use bookmark folders to keep track of those separately?

[sullen sierra]

I dont, I save them in a "dalle" bookmark folder and either name the bookmark the entire prompt I used, or, for ones that align more with my above criteria will name the bookmarked page single words "spaceship" "rivendell" "landscapes" "mountains" etc -

I have a lot of methodology to my dalle use so if I'm looking for something I can find it by mentioning an artist I used since "they do this sort of thing really well" or a style "art deco"

It's a bit like my own personal google search, when I search the dalle folder for "art deco" i get all my never before seen art deco attempts. they're not individualised per image, just per six generation pages, by the way. I save the six generations, not individual images to my bookmarks folder.

[neat bridge]

super helpful -- thank you!!

[sullen sierra]

no worries, any time, thank you!

[neat bridge]

in case it's not obvious why i'm asking, i've been thinking a lot about image organization / showcase features.

we've had pinterest-style multiple collections in mind for a while, but i've learned that a lot of users have been using collections more so to not lose any image they find remotely interesting (vs. saving images they love). and if the former is a bigger problem than the latter, we should probably prioritize saving every image by default and build some sort of search capability; if curating + grouping favorite images is the bigger need, we'd prioritize multiple collections.

what's a bigger problem for you?

[velvet pendant]

I do find myself saving images that I wouldn't consider "share-worthy" but interesting, so I think that is the bigger problem, but I'd also like curating features, although that can probably be done after as you can just sort all the images you've already saved. For me I think the ideal layout would be a tab with all past images generated, a main collection tab with saved images, and subcollections for images you want to put together. I'd also like to be able to give links to subcollections to people so I don't have to send a bunch of screenshots, and public/private options. Also options to better display a collection than just a 3 wide column, maybe like a scrapbook with pages. Also I think a search feature would probably be higher up on my wants than most of that - I'm at around 100 saved generations and scrolling is kinda slow for me, so a search would be great. Not trying to be too demanding, just giving my thoughts 😅

[sullen sierra]

I think that's bang on: a search function would be fantastic. Then there wouldn't really need to be anything higher than a "personal collection" for whatever reason that people want to save images. I think dalle is so fascinating that everything feels novel, so there is a lot of saving going on. I mean, I think that is a great special thing though, dalle is likely not going to get 'less novel' in its results, we'll just get more used to it being incredible...

Anyway, I think it also matters if you are interested in fostering some kind of "Pintrest" type of platform. Do you want people to curate outward facing collections? like a profile page? If so, then make personal collections public and "re-organisable" and let people save other peoples work to a "community saves" and that's that. Have them all be searchable by keywords that people used...

A search function paired with "everything youve ever generated is saved" paired with "every image that has ever been generated by dalle searchble by used keyword" would be pretty neat!

Very tangentially I often wonder if you could expose the, probably incredibly large "verb cloud" that resulted in dalles generation. So... I asked for "A cat on a boat that looks like van gogh in a fantasy city make of cucumbers" but I sometimes wonder "what are the other words here that dalle drew from to give me this image?" - i think this is a pretty tangential and irrelevant question tbh... I just wonder sometimes when I get something that is nothing like what I asked for, or, I get something that I want to understand "why is this element so much /better/ that the other five" I want to know what part of my prompt did dalle draw from to get "those specific towers" or "that level of fidelity" .... probably impossible though.

[craggy haven]

Also i think a way to select multiple images at the same time for downloading or deleting them (or anything) would be useful

[signal iron]

I export my Firefox history via Windows utility to Excel, and then I can see the URL, date created, title, last visit, etc.

[sullen sierra]

I'm nodding, impressed and sagely. haha.

[signal iron]

It's much, much, much faster than bookmarking every single image

[sullen sierra]

Yes, I can see that. But I also like leave dalle open all day and my results are often all bundled with the days web browsing... I spread my usage out over the day, usually, so... mine wouldn't be this clean. also i use chrome, not sure if that matters, though.

[neat bridge]

A search function paired with "everything youve ever generated is saved" paired with "every image that has ever been generated by dalle searchble by used keyword" would be pretty neat!

makes sense, these are all tough prioritization decisions to make -- I can write out my thoughts sometime on what's holding us back!

going to bed for now -- thank you so much again everyone (as always!) for your input!

[sullen sierra]

thank you so much. i mean, i personally would put a search function on my own generations and call it a day, perfect product haha. thanks again, joanne, have a nice weekend.

[sullen sierra]

also, I should add, in this imaginary world where you can search "every dalle generation" I think I would add "any /public/ dalle generation ever made, anyway in a "public collection" but still let there be "private collections" I think... You're right, it's complicated. honestly, everything as it is is pretty ideal, add a personal search bar, indeed, for me; perfect product.

[wheat zodiac]

Boards - Public / Private (a-la Pinterest)
Boards can be renamed & reorganised
"Inspiration", "Memes", "Inpaintings", "Outpaintings", you get the point.

Simple user profiles - username, pinned generations / boards, I'm not sure about likes & followers yet.

1000/10,000 history limit instead of saving EVERYTHING a person generates
(I don't want to save everything I generate and would personally find it annoying having to now "delete" things out of my main collection)

Speaking of deleting and saving - multi select
Multi-select delete & Multi-select download

Public DALL-E Gallery with search option?
After clicking Publish you can add a tickbox option - "Share to DALL-E Showcase". If ticked, you creation will be added to the DALL-E Showcase (database of every published photo) where everyone can find your image with search.

"Download your collection" button - one-click zip file download button like "Download your data" from instagram.

[sand basin]

Hello. My padded images (!pad) from the bot have white instead of transparent outer areas. Is that because I use an iPhone? Is there a setting I should change? 'Just touch once in edit' doesn't work that way...

[strange solstice]

Padded Image (50% smaller)

Here's your padded image. You can now use it as an input for outpainting!

Pro tip: when uploading to Dalle, just tap once with the edit brush anywhere in the padded area and then hit "Generate"; the AI will understand to fill in the other transparent parts of the image on its own. If a Dall-E watermark was present in the original image, you should erase it too!

[sand basin]

HERE it works again... Strange

[velvet pendant]

I assume that it's just showing the transparent background as white, so it should probably work still I would think

[sand basin]

Yes, now it does. O well, I'll make new ones.

Another question. I created these non existing ai people. And I again wanted to edit these. But dalle2 gave me the warning not to upload real people. How do I help Dalle understand dalle2 made these itself? That these are not real at all?

[velvet pendant]

I don't think you can. You could try blurring/drawing over some of the facial features, and uploading it, and then in the edit use the draw tool to remove that part so it generates it again, or leave it and then edit the resultant image you get to remove the blur/drawing

[velvet pendant]

I tried that image and it let me upload it, weird

[sand basin]

And this one? I want to make better eyes.

With me it doesnt work with the one you could upload. Dalle won't let me. Weird! How could Dalle let you edit it and not me?

[velvet pendant]

no idea lol

[sand basin]

Weird. You were allowed to edit it? OR only uploading?

[velvet pendant]

i can draw the edit tool over it

[signal iron]

Understood, my web searchers for all day are captured by the tool too. I just filter by "labs.openai.com", give the date range I want capture tell it to eliminate duplicate URLS and then export. It works with all major browsers. For those that are interested, Google "BrowsingHistoryView" by Nirsoft

[wheat zodiac]

Tutorial for dummies please 👋

[granite pine]

Similar problem: I made this image, scaled it and put again to make more details. But got an error 🥺

[subtle ingot]

you can't upload public peoples like that

maybe if u removed the eyes...

maybe then the detection will allow it

[granite pine]

yeah, think about it...

[subtle ingot]

but its a slippery slope

i would not recommend anybody to modify nor clone anybody's face without proper asking

you just dont

[granite pine]

there is nobody to ask about it because the faces were generated 😃

[signal iron]

Hi, getting ready for a wedding today, please send me a DM on Monday to remind me

[subtle ingot]

concratz?!..

a or yours ? 😛

[short salmon]

Could we get a counter somewhere on the prompt entry page showing how many times we have left to generate that day? I hate not knowing how many I have left.

[verbal crag]

#suggestions message

The team made it so you can see your past 50 prompts. You can temporarily manually count from there.

[short salmon]

Thanks ❤️

[wheat zodiac]

@bronze stump

https://dalledictionary.notion.site/Animation-30fcaeafd5894c95a9a5208776e2d67b

Ay the SEO and thumbnail suck but we are getting there 😁🤟

[split hazel]

I do more or less the same. I bookmark every one of my generation pages to a designated bookmarks folder. Good or bad, even just other's requests, they are all added to the folder. I'm considering writing a simple extension that would bookmark my generations automatically instead of me having to do it manually all the time. (It becomes a chore after a while).

I bookmark them because I don't want to lose them, it's organized (unlike browser history), and I can keep track of everything I make. I can also publish old generations if I chose to.

I'd be in support of expanding Dall-E's "history" functionality beyond just the sidebar of recent results. I think a method of accessing all your previous generations in-app without externally keeping track of urls would be appreciated by lots of users. The expansion of the history sidebar from 10 to 50 was already really great to see. Of course OpenAI can't host all of our images forever, so perhaps a sort of "expiry date" could be introduced. e.g. Users are told that their results will be wiped after x months.

[rugged wing]

Hello, my prompt got warnings, but I didn't know which word triggered it, so I reduced the prompt and tried it several times, but now my account is deactivated. Could please some one look into my case and reactivate my account?

[pliant osprey]

What was the prompt?

The guidelines are clear on what's allowed

[rugged wing]

A high quality portrait photo of a smiling beautiful blonde woman with black eyeglasses and a bun and red lipstick, 35mm, studio lighting, grey background, model shooting

[pliant osprey]

Sometime I think words are banned but it might not be obvious to someone who isn't a native English speaker

The prompt might have generated something lewd and the issue might not be with a particular word

[rugged wing]

Mhh, okay, are you from openai?

[verbal crag]

"shooting" is the offending word

[rugged wing]

Oh, okay

[pliant osprey]

Yes probably

[rugged wing]

Damn

Haven't thought about that in that context

[pliant osprey]

I think shoot works, I normally just use "photography"

[verbal crag]

They should be reinstating your account, idk when though

[rugged wing]

Okay, cool. I contacted them few days ago, but no answer yet

[pliant osprey]

There's a lot of users now. I don't think openai will have a large support team, especially for a product that isn't commercialized