images-discussions

[rich star]

And ChatGPT now uses DALL-E 3 now

[placid orbit]

nah its just "It looks like there was an error while trying to generate the image. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to create the scene of the two characters standing next to each other."

[placid orbit]

it does not

[open wagon]

was the character copyright or

[forest walrus]

It's just high load

[placid orbit]

no

[open wagon]

the image gen tool is still working

[dim cradle]

Most of the errors are most likely related to the high load

So give it some hours

[forest walrus]

Too much Ghibli style self portraits!

[rich star]

It does now for some reason

[forest walrus]

Yea just high load

[placid orbit]

if youre on free maybe

I suppose the image gen uses a seperate model of 4o in the backend

[rich star]

Listen to Linky “High Load” and I’m on the paid plan and it was working before

[dim cradle]

For me the queue works but it takes about 15 minutes for one request

[rich star]

They are using DALL-E 3 on ChatGPT while they sort out Sora Image Gen and 4o image gen on ChatGPT

[open wagon]

its still wokring for me

[open wagon]

what

just turn off "Dall-E" in your personalization setting

[forest walrus]

Hmm, I can't react to Lunar posts, did he block me that way? 💀

[open wagon]

was trying to help but ok lol

[rich star]

How are you helping if you are blocking me?

[open wagon]

block what,

[rigid bough]

can you lot please take a chill pill and calm down, I don't want to call for the mods again

[dim cradle]

stop the drama😭

(funny though)

[kind tulip]

Has anyone reached a limit yet?

What is the limit if any?

[quiet brook]

i have slowed down a bit since im preparing for the nintendo direct

[quiet brook]

~201 tries on sora, ~90 images in chatgpt, per day

[kind tulip]

Is this where the new switch comes out?

[quiet brook]

nah only on switch 1 games

[open wagon]

Wait one?

[quiet brook]

direct focused on switch 1 games but anyways

[forest walrus]

I'm so excited for the Direct honestly (yea I'm a Nintendo nut)

[remote knoll]

Its unlimited

[quiet brook]

it is NOT

[remote knoll]

Really? I thought it’s unlimited cause yesterday I generated really a lot of images

[dim cradle]

Is midjourney better than 4o image generation?

[dim cradle]

a lot isnt unlimited

[forest walrus]

It may have more tools, and maybe a bit better on the creativity aspect, but 4o can do stuff like transparent background images, better character consistency, comics, memes, edits images better, and is very good at text. Also, Midjourney is its own subscription, while 4o image gen is already in ChatGPT with all the other tools and models...

[daring wedge]

Personally, I would like to have a chaos system like MJ that gives different results even if the same word is used.

[open wagon]

basically seed features is it?

[daring wedge]

The resulting images show very little difference.

[sharp palm]

It's for pro plan

[daring wedge]

Auto prompt enhanced It's still good.

[forest walrus]

Already high limits in Plus though, 90 images or so in ChatGPT and semi unlimited uses in Sora (per day), just slower and can put you on Queue if there is high load...

[quiet brook]

Mj has unmatched flexibility (rated 100% in my benchmark)

[verbal sequoia]

Get notified for server events!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1261377106890199132> role.

Also, check out the ongoing Canvas Creations event!

[open wagon]

TIL this image gen tool is called image_gen

🖼️ image_gen Tool Overview

The image_gen tool lets you generate images from text descriptions or edit existing images with specific changes.

---

✅ When to Use:
• When someone describes a scene for image generation
  (e.g. diagram, portrait, comic, meme, furry art, etc.)
• When someone uploads an image and wants to:
  – Add or remove elements
  – Change colors or visual style (e.g. cartoon, oil painting)
  – Improve quality or resolution

---

⚙️ Guidelines:
• Generate the image immediately — no need to ask for confirmation
• After generating:
  ❌ Do not mention downloads
  ❌ Do not summarize the image
  ❌ Do not ask follow-up questions
  ✅ Just end the turn. Say nothing
• Always use this tool for image editing unless told otherwise
• Only use python for image editing if explicitly instructed

[forest walrus]

4o... are you here?

Damn, 4o toke over Wrigley 😔

[open wagon]

🤖

[quiet brook]

that’s a way shorter system prompt than dalle lolol

[open wagon]

for real lmao, i remmeber dall e sys prompt was way too long and specific too

[delicate stump]

Guysssss

Is Sora down for image gen???

[open wagon]

it seems so

[quiet brook]

it’s extremely slow

[open wagon]

That said, OpenAI is a private platform, so they do have the right to set their own rules

Especially when it comes to legal risks and content moderation

[forest walrus]

Long queues and sometimes fails. Currently high load. Everyone generating Ghibli style self portraits :V

[open wagon]

I just hope they stay open to community feedback, because these things really need balance and transparency. 🙂

[quiet brook]

someone should make a 4o image gen wrapper about it

[open wagon]

theyre gonna strict ghibli style next

[delicate stump]

I got an error saying "not our fault contact Jensen"??? HUH

[forest walrus]

Jensen 👀

[forest walrus]

I may try making a native app that communicates with the API when it comes out to create this exact thing

[open wagon]

I get what u mean, I do think public domain stuff shouldn’t be restricted unless there’s an actual reason, But moderation isn't always about silencing people, it often about managing risk, liability, and platform guidelines.

I mean it IS fair to question OpenAI’s choices, but I wouldn’t assume it’s all about suppressing speech

mmmm yeah in this case transparency would definitely help clear things up though.

I just wonder if it’s less about public domain itself and more about how people use it. maybe they’re trying to pre-empt misuse, even if it ends up limiting legit uses too

Still frustrating though, especially when it feels like it contradicts what was said

[vapid wigeon]

does anyone anyone else have errors when generating images

[quiet brook]

again

it can generate politic figures but not mario

[open wagon]

LOL it felt like the model saying "yes" but the system saying "no" anyway.

That kind of inconsistency just adds to the frustration ngl

Especially when the request is legit and public domain. Hopefully they improve how those backend filters work over time, cause right now it does feel like the guardrails are catching stuff they shouldn’t (e.g Mario) 🙂

[quiet brook]

dalle is if theres mario in your prompt it gets blocked

[vapid wigeon]

"The image generation system isn’t responding properly at the moment." does anyone else have this kind of response

[sinful sedge]

Hi! I’d like to clarify, is Sora currently not generating photos for anyone at all? I saw a post on Reddit 14 hours ago about this issue, and it’s strange that the load hasn’t decreased for so long. I’ve been trying to create at least one image, but after a long generation process, they all end with a creation error. I periodically try to generate an image, but the problem isn’t budging—there’s no window where I could successfully generate something.

[native root]

Why do I have the feeling that they will make the same mistake nerfing this model as well?

[sinful sedge]

In ChatGPT, although very slowly, it’s still possible to generate something. I understand there’s a high load, but there are no official announcements, and even in Sora’s interface, there used to be a message about it, but now it’s gone.

[quiet brook]

its just typical openai atp

[vagrant zodiac]

I just hope we get this over the API

[wide lion]

sora and chatgpt image genereation are super slow this morning. Like over 20 minutes for a single image gen. Many failures as well.

[sinful sedge]

The generation has been slow for over a day now. At the moment, it’s completely unavailable to me in Sora. I hope OpenAI allocates more resources to this—I thought they’d have optimization for their service for images since they’ve ventured into this area, especially with it being announced for Free users.

[brisk agate]

Forgive me if this has already been said, but I just really need to let off some steam.

I just can't fathom why 4o will often generate most of my image, like 80-90% of it, only to then revoke it and tell me that it breaks guideline. It's like it teases this thing like a carrot in front of me and then yanks it away right when it's about to finish.

Wouldn't it be more fair to the user's time if it would just preemptively reject the prompt instead of making you wait and see a tantalizing result start to load only for it then to be pulled away? It seems rather unfair. Photoshop never argued with me when I commanded it to make me things. Just sayin.

[sinful sedge]

I’m tired. I’ll completely give up on generation for today and just sit waiting for the load issue to be resolved. It’s a pity that every experience with my ChatGPT Plus subscription leaves me disappointed when I subscribe expecting something new and interesting. Because of this, I’ve stopped renewing it consistently—I don’t like this treatment. I really hope they do something about the load and deliver a stable product.

[burnt topaz]

Hey guys, is anyone here capable of generating images from themselves? I keep having the error "can't generate image from real persons", I can't find a way. I wanted to try the ghibli thing, but looks like I can't :(

[pseudo valve]

To be clear: you're upset when the artist refuses to create a work for you?

[dull mulch]

Guys do you know if the new image model will be available for free tiers?

Or is it only for plus

[open wagon]

It works

Just say “turn this image into ghibli style

[pseudo hollow]

But the monitoring AI, which checks all images, won't know if it breaks any ethical or other guardrails until it sees it. So if the prompt itself is okay, but then the generator creates something in the image that isn't, then it's only at that point the AI that moderates output can do anything. If your prompt itself breaks any guardrails,it will be rejected at that point. So I see what you're saying, but its the only way iot can work. Step 1 - your prompt is checked for approval or rejection. Step 2 - your approved prompt is generated - Step 3, your generated image is checked for approval or rejection.

[burnt topaz]

Is it limited to ghibli? It tells me:

I couldn't generate the image based on your request because it involved transforming a real person's photo into a stylized character, which goes against our content guidelines.

Using GPT4o

[open wagon]

Dm me your picture

[burnt topaz]

Can't, privacy, and I would like to be able to do it on my side, without requiring the need of someone else

Ideally, I would like to be able to transform it into Iron man, what my friend on the photo likes, but Iron man is a copyrighted license, so I need to find another way.

That's not the hardest. Right now, it won't generate the image by saying it is a real human behind it

[open wagon]

I mean I need to know what you typed in the prompt lol

No need to dm me your image then , just tell me exactly what you typed in prompt

Cuz if you’re not telling me what did you exactly typed in the prompt then we can’t help ya buddy

Cuz I want to try it on my own pic with your prompt

[burnt topaz]

turn this image into a face-fronted man, with a full-body armor, molded to the human silhouette, combining elegance and strength. Entirely metallic, it features a deep red color enhanced with strategically placed gold accents on the shoulders, forearms, thighs, and shins. The torso is sculpted, marked at its center by a circular or triangular light source embedded in a reinforced breastplate. The joints are covered with mobile plates, optimized for smooth mobility. The palms and feet contain luminous devices, suggesting propulsion or directed energy. The whole ensemble evokes advanced technology, designed for speed, power, and precision.

With a photo of my friend, facing me, taking a picture of his food at a restaurant

[open wagon]

Yeah idk why yours are so specific?

Let me try

[burnt topaz]

Because I want to turn my friend into Iron man, but GPT doesn't like it, it says it is a copyrighted license, and so I'm not allowed to do that

[open wagon]

I’m trying reverse psychology prompt atm

[burnt topaz]

Oh and I'm doing it using the temporary chat

[burnt topaz]

Lol, with GPT?

@open wagon oh nice one, I will try this prompt you have done

[dim cradle]

How is everyone enjoying those new features?

[burnt topaz]

Great, but there is some annoying filters

[dim cradle]

I agree.

[quiet brook]

abort image generation mission, the direct is starting

[pseudo mica]

Was great last night now it won't do anything

[open wagon]

Yeah sadly can’t really do anything about this

📉

Incoming

[dim cradle]

They probably nerfed some stuff. I probably won't use it much and continue my drawings as usual.

[candid chasm]

Can I turn Dalle3 back on? This new image maker is very slow and makes worse images for my use case

[uncut haven]

They said: "As with any launch, safety is never finished and is rather an ongoing area of investment. As we learn more about real-world use of this model, we’ll adjust our policies accordingly."

Currently Sora spits out "Service at capacity". They're experiencing overload.

[open wagon]

Well there’s no way to do it , u can still access through custom gpt

https://chatgpt.com/g/g-2fkFE8rbu-dall-e

[burnt topaz]

Agree, but right now I just want to have fun and generate my friend into an Iron Man suit, and it doesn't allow me...

[open wagon]

This is the official dall e

[uncut haven]

At least, its censorship is far better than DALL-E 3.

[open wagon]

Yeah they’re definitely tightening the screws as we speaking

Cuz yesterday someone posted pic of man with square moustache

Until mod saw it and now I don’t see any of the images that was posted in the channel anymore ,

[candid chasm]

Thank you that will work for now hopefully it doesnt get discontinued

[open wagon]

And today the image_gen now blocked the prompt involving man with square mustache (which is reasonably understandable to blocked it)

[pseudo mica]

Is it tho? Like satire is a thing.

[open wagon]

Well apparently not for them, I mean I understand why they decided to block it,

[pseudo mica]

Art is pointless if gaurdrails are set up.

[open wagon]

But Mario getting blocked is something I didn’t expect

[candid chasm]

art is not gonna be made with corporate models. artsts need to wait for china and open source

[open wagon]

And I saw someone here generated Elon m3 .th pic and it generated fine but it draws the line on Mario

[candid chasm]

Elon isnt tradmarked

[open wagon]

Oh yeah true

[vast beacon]

Hey guys! I have a question. Can dall e give consistent results like midjourney does. I'm making my own comic and would like to know whether gpt is better than midjourney or not?

[candid chasm]

Not nearly as many tools to make it happen. You can be clever with prompting to get a consistant style but you can't feed it image examples like Midjourney. They are $30 per month for a reason

[uncut haven]

DALL-E can't do that easily, and it's degraded anyway. Use GPT-4o for that - it can do large amount of accurate text, style and character consistency.

[vast beacon]

Any cheaper alternatives??

[dim cradle]

One thing I see it struggle with his complex design I put in my drawing.

[uncut haven]

For discussing other AI products, ask to https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/998381918976479273

[candid chasm]

:Tensor art has all the open source models. But you need to be a wizard

[open wagon]

A literal wizard 🧙‍♀️?

Is that why your pfp a wizard

[candid chasm]

lol yes you need to invoke the correct words of power to make these machine spirits dance correctly. its an arcane art 😄

[quiet brook]

this direct is boring, shouldve keep played with img gen

[uncut haven]

Okay, off-topic but OpenAI app is busy following us... Bug in Discord?

[open wagon]

Ask image_gen to create Nintendo direct of your choice 👀

[open wagon]

Oh I quickly ignore the bot

It’s annoying

[open wagon]

I’m asking image gen to generate this 👀

[quiet brook]

Blocked

[open wagon]

Now not the image gen is ruining your momentum

[uncut haven]

I'm getting constant "Service at capacity"...

[quiet brook]

“Mario”: blocked

[vagrant zodiac]

Prompt accuracy feels much better with this model

I dont feel like the moderation/rewrite system is fighting me

[haughty spruce]

Nintendo is so brutal on the copyright laws. They destroyed every fan remake, fan games, fan arts and emulators.

[narrow bough]

Editing is broken right now. I asked it to edit a wide photo and it changes it to a square photo.

[open wagon]

Try say “wide aspect ratio”

Or do it in sora idk if sora still slow right now

[uncut haven]

or "horizontal image", "keep aspect ratio of original"

[open wagon]

Exactly , not even fan arts are safe

[narrow bough]

Sora is that capacity right now

[vagrant zodiac]

I look forward to the day when a model like sora is quick to run

[rotund sinew]

You can't make it just change a part of your input image with selections/masking, you can only do that with images that it produces, right?

Is this a limitation of the model, or did the execs somehow not realize how much of a limitation it is to not be able to limit its edits to a certain portion of the input image?

[open wagon]

Oof , yeah you gonna have to repromtp in ChatGPT

[vagrant zodiac]

And efficient! Benefit of being in GMT is I can wake up and use it while america is asleep 😄

[open wagon]

U mean inpainting?

U can , only for generated image

[rotund sinew]

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about!

[open wagon]

Yeah just click on the generated image

[verbal sequoia]

Showcase your DALL·E creations to the world!

Collaborate with our OpenAI Instagram page! Just invite @openai as a collaborator before you post. If selected by our team, your work will be featured on our handle, giving you more visibility.

Quick tips for selection:

• No copyrighted or profane content.
• Your profile needs to be public.
• Stay mindful of sensitive topics.
• Outputs that closely follow the prompt are preferred.

Feel free to share reels, carousels, or just a single image!

[quiet brook]

gonna use it to generate memes about this direct ngl

[open wagon]

And you will see the brush icon

[rotund sinew]

Which is a major limitation - is that a limitation of the model, or did the execs just not realize how much of a limitation it is?

[narrow bough]

Yeah, I’m trying to change the generated image, but it keeps re-creating the whole image instead of just editing the single part.

[rotund sinew]

By then GPT already butchers the original, making a completely different version

[uncut haven]

That's limitation in system/UI side, not model.

[open wagon]

I think if you use the brush it will only edit that part but , at least that’s what I experienced yesterday-

[rotund sinew]

Are you sure about it, do we have sources? /gen
Because if it's a UI limitation and not a model limitation - it's pretty weird that they didn't include it in release, it would open up SO many more use cases for it (like editing parts of photos without mucking up everything else, adding sprites to an existing character sheet, etc)

[open wagon]

Oh yeah I think that’s one thing I also about to ask

Gmini image native model can actually edit an image without it making a brand new image generation

And I was wondering if image_gen 4o can do the same but not really

[quiet brook]

but deteriorates it a bit

4o does it too and it’s more noticeable…

[open wagon]

Yeah , mine actually changed my face into like a very different person

[uncut haven]

Midjourney block full editors to certain people. (Like, total generation of 10,000, annual plan sub, etc)
If you do not meet that criteria, it only allows editing/inpainting generated images.

Basically, inpainting is general process. Not different for generated images/uploaded images.

[drifting hawk]

Edit still regenerates the whole image so that’s why things outside the edit area will change too

Same for transparency

[open wagon]

Yeah it can’t be helped

[rotund sinew]

I can definitely picture a few different setups for their tech stack that would make it easy to implement inpainting for generated images vs inpainting uploaded images

[rotund sinew]

Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a Pro user limitation or something like that - I'm just surprised that it's not a feature at all (in ChatGPT I mean) and it makes me wonder if the model is not supporting it, or if the execs are intentionally stalling or something

[open wagon]

So far .. as of right now only gmini native image model can do image editing without altering the original image at least from what I’ve known so far

[rotund sinew]

Holy moly bot, we get it, they should really limit the repost to once every 5 minutes or something and not every 5 milliseconds

[drifting hawk]

It’s a model limitation currently

[uncut haven]

I don't think this is not matter of pricing, but safety migitation...

[rigid bough]

I am getting a lot of time out, retry messages tonight on the macOS Desktop App when generating images

[drifting hawk]

Yeah there’s server issues

[rotund sinew]

Might be, yeah, granted I'd say the things that can already be done are bad enough where direct inpainting wouldn't be that much worse in terms of potential lawsuits

[uncut haven]

How heavy is GPT-4o image generation? Is it expensive than DALL-E 3? We don't have API pricing so can't compare...

[open wagon]

But one thing that really impresses me about the image_gen 4o tool is how accurately it can match the original image the user uploads, like, seriously high fidelity. 🫣

[drifting hawk]

It’s slower so you can infer from that

[rotund sinew]

Oh, it is? Thanks!
Just to be clear, we are making a distinction between a model limitation (where it's difficult to implement inpainting of input images vs generated images), versus UI limitation (where the model supports it, but the devs just haven't had a chance to implement the UI for it to work with the uploaded image), right?

[drifting hawk]

For edits sometimes it helps to redescribe the entire image

[drifting hawk]

Yes, but a model limitation isn’t just about implementing it. The model just can’t do it in its current form

[uncut haven]

Uploaded image can't be inpainted, but generated images can? That's wierd...

[drifting hawk]

I don’t know what you mean by uploaded vs generated though

I was referring to the model changing the image when you only edit part of it

[uncut haven]

We meant inpainting function itself.

[open wagon]

Also , sys prompt for image_gen tool , if anyone interested.

// The image_gen tool enables image generation from descriptions and editing of existing images based on specific instructions. Use it when:
// - The user requests an image based on a scene description, such as a diagram, portrait, comic, meme, or any other visual.
// - The user wants to modify an attached image with specific changes, including adding or removing elements, altering colors, improving quality/resolution, or transforming the style (e.g., cartoon, oil painting).

// Guidelines:

// - Directly generate the image without reconfirmation or clarification.
// - After each image generation, do not mention anything related to download. Do not summarize the image. Do not ask followup question. Do not say ANYTHING after you generate an image.
// - Always use this tool for image editing unless the user explicitly requests otherwise. Do not use the python tool for image editing unless specifically instructed

[haughty spruce]

I wouldn't want censorship in my paid tier image gen maker while other free tools and paid tools have more freedom. if this wants to be the best tool, they should give people freedom. just my opinion...

[drifting hawk]

Editing uploaded images should work, you just can’t select the area, which is just a feature we haven’t gotten to but it shouldn’t be much work to do

But you don’t have to draw the area. Just describe what you want changed

[rotund sinew]

Basically, you can inpaint images that the model generates, but you can't inpaint images you've uploaded
And I was wondering if the devs just haven't added the UI for it to the uploaded images (which would be pretty wild since I imagine paywalling it would be pretty profitable), or if the model itself is somehow designed in a way where it can mask its own outputs easily, but not the inputs (due to how it handles preprocessing the data for example, since a generated image has a lot more metadata out of the gate versus the raw input)

[open wagon]

I think by doing this it will change the whole image in the generation

[rigid bough]

I'd prefer OpenAI remain conservative and ensure that we can keep using these tools rather than be crushed by regulation or legal issues.

[open wagon]

But even then it did slight “altering “

[drifting hawk]

It changes the entire image anyway. But I will bring this up as a feature request

[rotund sinew]

It absolutely does, the current version is completely unable not to change the entire style

It's kind of wild that it's claimed to be an "extension of an artist" while not being able to actually not change everything important about the art

[open wagon]

Thank you!

[drifting hawk]

Have you tried drawing on it with like photoshop

Draw a red circle

And upload that

[open wagon]

Annotate ?

I think u can do it directly in ChatGPT , during the image upload

Let me try 👀

[drifting hawk]

Ah yeah ui feature that shouldn’t be hard to add

[quiet brook]

i have the perfect meme to generate now

[open wagon]

then suddenly it hit with “guardrails “

Jkjk

[quiet brook]

i got 1984'd by saying a word in spaces 😭

server at its peak

[sacred temple]

so new generator is just called Image Gen? not SORA Stills or Dalle4 or Dalle4o? Cheers!

[open wagon]

@drifting hawk Wait it works ??

[uncut haven]

GPT-4o (native) image generation.

[quiet brook]

all i was saying is "tomodachi life" but with spaces between each letter

"foreign language" 😭

anyways lemme generate the meme rq

[vagrant zodiac]

#sora-discussions message btw if I had ONE thing I'd like the team to look at, even moreso than the model... it's this 😦

[rotund sinew]

Got it, thank you! I'm gonna actually test something cuz the way you described inpainting made it seem like it actually just takes the selection as a guidance rather than a strict restriction (I had tried the inpainting before but it crashed before it finished so I never got to compare the original and inpainted version pixel by pixel to see if it actually regenerated everything or not)

[uncut haven]

I saw photorealistic image of 3 political figures smoking together on Sora image highlights... (Can't name them since I getting timeout)

[vagrant zodiac]

yep it's pretty bad... and always the same ones...

[open wagon]

#images-canvas message

[charred spruce]

Any idea when 4o image generation will be available in the api?

[open wagon]

Another one that was featured in sora front page was the Winnie the Pooh 🇨🇳

[uncut haven]

In a few weeks they said.

[charred spruce]

Any guesses on how expensie it will be compared to dalle?

[uncut haven]

Oh, right. I saw that filling my entire browser screen.

[open wagon]

SAME LMFAO

[uncut haven]

It's 2~3 times slower than DALL-E 3, so it will be expensive at least for that amount...

[quiet brook]

duped bot message, absolute cinema

[uncut haven]

DALL-E 3 sometimes blocked image for "too much furry"(not exact wording ofc, just guidelines), but GPT-4o don't...

[open wagon]

Which I’m really really glad 👀

I asked it to create telegram stickers expression based on my pfp and it did the job

Only slight minor error but I can manually fix it myself

[uncut haven]

It once even hallucinated "Generating image of dragons is against content policy", lol

[dry torrent]

Is image generation still not working in Sora?

[uncut haven]

It still randomly shows error "service at capacity". Keep try with some interval.

[sharp palm]

Sora back up

[brisk agate]

You would think that this monitoring AI would be able to gleam enough context from the prompt itself to determine if there's a content issue or not, since it is from that prompt that the resulting works is derived. I mean I'm clearly no expert on the technical aspects under the hood, but I guess practically speaking it sounds like it should be possible.

[brisk agate]

I mean it's a clearly flawed system, since I'm able to screenshot the results once it hits 90% completion, I've basically gotten a copy of the works that OpenAI claims is a content violation. If it were really such an agregious violation, why render any of the image to begin with? Isn't that a liability? Just seems crazy to me.

[open wagon]

Fun fact , the image that it “deleted” cuz of violation is still exist in the server btw

U can still get them through network log ,

But you will get the 90% generated image version, not the fully completed one

[brisk agate]

That's wild lol

[left nacelle]

Image Generation ChatGPT is igual a DALL-E o diferen things?

[twin junco]

So I guess just like every other Openai product, I get to actually enjoy it for or day or two before the censorship rolls out and then I have to wait 2 months for an open source alternative. I was having fun turning myself into different styles but the img2img will not let me do anything if I'm in the photo anymore.

[quiet brook]

true true

[open wagon]

surprisingly this time they actually delivers the product, but only on day one of course 🙂

[dim cradle]

hello fellow image freaks haha

[haughty spruce]

wait until some "other" bigger company that supports oai delivers the native image in their chatgpt too, with sora powered website. 🙂 they have less stricter rules

I have created a "McLovin" ID card for me LOL

[quiet brook]

4o image gen making the 1646762th studio Ghibli picture of the day:

[proper slate]

i feel like this ai degenerated in a day

[quiet brook]

same tbh but shhh don’t jinx it

[dim cradle]

of course, didnt you know every ai model text or image gets worse a day or two after users use it

[quiet brook]

the nerfication has begun…

[open wagon]

@haughty spruce u got videofx right?

[dim cradle]

i dont actually think its changed, people just say that everytime with every release

best thing about it is, it will push imagen to better next, as well as other models, which will push open ai's next to be better, and so on until we're one shotting everything with some future model

[proper slate]

yeah this for sure degenerated

[dim cradle]

yeah they did it just to annoy you

ive seen more impressive stuffs today so i dont know how its degraded other than its just a cliche at this point to always say that

give it a few more days and youll start the next round of it which is "do you guys think dalle3 was actually better?"

[proper slate]

na never used dalle3 that thing was terrible from day 1

[dim cradle]

no it wasnt

[rigid bough]

Sam Altman at 09:32 AM PDT: "it's super fun seeing people love images in chatgpt. but our GPUs are melting. we are going to temporarily introduce some rate limits while we work on making it more efficient. hopefully won't be long! chatgpt free tier will get 3 generations per day soon."

[dim cradle]

hopefully they learn for the next image release that it will be insanely popular and they prepare on their end for it. but maybe by then theyll have one of their data centers open

[sharp palm]

Source?

[rigid bough]

X

[fluid venture]

Twitter

[dim cradle]

mr all day games you should convert your pfp to photoreal on it haha

[fluid venture]

Oh god

[dim cradle]

then again it might thinks its mario and reject it haha

[fluid venture]

Lets see what terrifying mess that conjures lol

[quiet brook]

sigh

it was fun while it lasted

[coarse flint]

Man since sora already has the best image quality or all ai vid generators. if it gets updated to be more coherent and to work well with image to video, this all together would be king of ai

[fluid venture]

Honestly if it could generate faster than 30-60 seconds per image that’d be great

Or at all since right now I can’t get it to do anything

[dim cradle]

well that message from altman makes me think it will, just have to give it a week or so for them to power up the servers even more

[coarse flint]

i dont mind, faster might mean loss of quality, idk how it works though

[fluid venture]

It’s the queue that’s the issue

[coarse flint]

but its faster when generating on sora

[fluid venture]

I’m using sora lol

[coarse flint]

dang lol

[dim cradle]

dalle3 was the same on release, everyone was using it. then over time it was like 5 of us talking about it in the dalle chat for two years haha

[fluid venture]

Grey circle spinning spinning spinnninggg

[open wagon]

oh man

[coarse flint]

my images seem to take no longer than 1 minute

[open wagon]

look at what robert sent

their gpus are melting apparently so you might get slower generation now

[quiet brook]

one image literally took 10+ minutes for me on sora so no lol

[fluid venture]

I’m just surprised you guys are getting any generation at all

[quiet brook]

speed rating is now 0% in my benchmark

[quiet brook]

The great Ghiblification of twitter is melting those gpus

[coarse flint]

my images dont take anywhere near that long, are you guys pro users?

[fluid venture]

“Plus” here

[dim cradle]

I'm plus and it feels the same as always for me

[rigid bough]

it's faster for Pro users

[quiet brook]

meanwhile us actual creative users who’s exploring new use cases are getting “service at capacity” errors

[coarse flint]

might be the reason, im a pro user so i probably have priority

[fluid venture]

Can this OPENaI bot stop spamming the channels for the love of sora

[quiet brook]

even pro users can get slow

[dim cradle]

its our one wish but the powers that be seem to want to annoy us here.

[coarse flint]

just counted mine, it took a minute and 4 seconds to generate a image, 2 of them

[rigid bough]

my images are taking about a minute

[quiet brook]

#images-canvas message

[fluid venture]

I’m at 7 mins and it just started actually generating

Remixing an image

[kind grail]

I will try to make a small comic page

With individually generated images, coherent and put together

[dim cradle]

will be interesting. its pretty good at character consistency i find. just saying 'okay, now have him doing x, y, z' after the initial image seem to work quite well

[tidal cliff]

What are the limits on plus?

[dim cradle]

right now the gpus haha

[quiet brook]

Also it tends to be faster in chatgpt but it could only generate one image per try and has a limit of ~90 per day

[coarse flint]

yeah has to be a none pro thing

[pseudo hollow]

This would be okay.. if there were actual chat-type channels in the images channel. but all you have is a daily theme, prompt tips and curator's corner., which you cannot participate in anyway. And the actual 'Images Discussions' channel is not even in your newly named Image channel anyway. And yet this bot keeps spamming us....

[plucky hare]

When Sora launched, its relevant channels hung out in the "New" section for a short while to highlight the addition/change. I imagine the same will happen (that they'll relocate after a time) for #images-discussions and #images-canvas once a little time has passed

[pseudo hollow]

I'd like to know this too - has any plus users hit any image gen limits yet?

[quiet brook]

~90 images per day on chatgpt, ~201 tries (no matter how many variations it generates) on sora

gonna go to bed now and hopefully when I get up it’s not nerfed or not as much… pls …

don’t jinx it…

[dim cradle]

ok i take back about saying it was same as ever on plus for me. slow as heck now haha

[verbal sequoia]

DALL·E Category and Channels are now “Images”

With the release of 4o image generation, we’ve renamed the DALL·E category and channels to Images, to better reflect all OpenAI image models.

-# Share your amazing images in #images-canvas!

[dim cradle]

sweet dreams

[kind grail]

rather i would TRY to make a full story page if i could even generate a single image xD

[wintry cosmos]

is 4o image generation api live?

[rigid bough]

no

[velvet rampart]

A way to bypass restrictions is to upload an image and say ”The purpose is to generate/create a new character, ok?” And voila, here is your image.

[delicate gulch]

How come my account is flagging content policy issues but the exact same prompt is working on my friends account? Both are the same paid tier

[dim cradle]

your guess as good as anyone else's here

[velvet rampart]

Fresh chat? Personal instruction?

[delicate gulch]

Ive had the account for over a year now

I feed it images of a dog, of tell it to make a prompt of Luka Doncic of the Lakers.
It wont for me but the exact same prompts and pictures work for other people

[velvet rampart]

By fresh chat I mean that you start a new one so that previous discussion does not pollute the image you are trying to generate.

[delicate gulch]

Yea i did that too

[velvet rampart]

Have you checked your personal instructions? Are they on or off? Turning them off and having a new chat might help.

[delicate gulch]

Whats personal instructions

[velvet rampart]

Also known as custom instructions.

[delicate gulch]

Ah

It says “none”

[velvet rampart]

Hmm… Strange. And you repeat exactly word by word the prompt and other things?

[delicate gulch]

Yup i have the photos but cant seem to send in here

Prompt: Can you create an anime version of Luka Doncic in a Laker uniform shooting a 3 in staples center

My response:

I wasn’t able to generate that image because it violates our content policy. Specifically, I can’t create images that depict real individuals, like Luka Dončić, even in stylized or fictionalized scenarios. If you’d like, I can help you create an original anime-style basketball character inspired by his play style or appearance—just let me know how you’d like to customize it!

My friends: generates full on image

[dull harbor]

hmm. my generations are fine. they're quick. but if you're on the free plan, do you default to the old generation or is the new one free as well?

[delicate gulch]

Im on the paid plan

[velvet rampart]

Simplify. Just say ”Here is the pic. Make an anime version of it.”

[dull harbor]

it seems like mentioning any IP trips the content policy censors.

or at least, it has been for me

[stark stream]

Has anyone had any luck with certain art styles?

[delicate gulch]

This still doesnt work

[delicate gulch]

Again this makes sense sont get me wrong. But why do so many other people straight up bypass it without any tricks and the same prompts

[dim cradle]

you plus or pro?

[velvet rampart]

My version:

#images-canvas message

[delicate gulch]

The 21$ one

[velvet rampart]

I used my prompt for it.

[delicate gulch]

What did u put?

Let me try it exact word for word

[velvet rampart]

Here is an image. Make an anime version of it.

And a new, fresh chat.

[delicate gulch]

What image did u input

[velvet rampart]

I’ll send the source image as a DM.

[delicate gulch]

Ty

[stark stream]

I hope eventually we will be available to do IPs. There are people who can make fanart of IPs.

[rigid bough]

I've been quietly watching chat and just want to point out to anyone who doesn't know — bypassing filters can get you banned. If OpenAI have blocked something from being generated then steer clear and don't try to trick ChatGPT into complying.

[delicate gulch]

Im not trying to trick it though, its the same prompt that other people are using, in fact it seems like my account is an outlier in how it is respondibg to it

[rigid bough]

I've said all I am going to say on this, read what I wrote and do what you wish.

[dim cradle]

or at least be smart enough to not talk about your work around in the official discord haha

[delicate gulch]

Theres no work around or filter being bypassed

[velvet rampart]

I agree.

[delicate gulch]

The same prompt on 2 different accounts is leading one to generate and another not to thats all

[midnight mango]

I hope they fix the yellow tint soon

[plucky hare]

I have noticed some default warmness too, but I find that asking specifically for specific color/tone alternatives helps in avoiding this

[midnight mango]

it's just kind of annoying that I have to prompt "remove the yellow tint"

it really just seems like a bug

like while it's generating, it starts out untinted at first, and then I'll see the yellow tint pop in as it's almost done

it's so wierd

[plucky hare]

Have you tried asking for neutral/cool/etc. color balance in the original prompts? Or whatever is relevant for the type of images you're making

[twin jasper]

Are we allowed to use ChatGPT & SORA at the same time for image gen? Or no.

It's working but don't want to get banned.

[midnight mango]

I'll start adding that to my prompts

[dawn aurora]

Did they nerf image 4o? It was working fine yesterday now I can’t make anime or a cartoon of myself

[midnight mango]

I haven't been able to use a picture of myself from the start. On other people it works fine tho :(

[open wagon]

What was the prompt

It’s still working fine for me

[dawn aurora]

Yea it was awesome I was making simpsons, anime, dragon ball z of my self

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[open wagon]

Which one it rejected

Anime is fine

[dull harbor]

im finding that you can get it to do generic styles, but if you try mentioning some copyright in the prompt, itll flag

[open wagon]

Ghibli style somehow still works

[dawn aurora]

“Can you make this into a simpsons cartoon”

I wasn’t able to generate a Simpsons cartoon version of the image because it involves real people, and I can’t create or modify images that replicate real individuals in cartoon form.

That said, I’d be happy to create a generic Simpsons-style scene inspired by the setting—like an award ceremony at a government office with cartoon characters in similar outfits. Want me to whip that up instead? Or have another fun idea?

[open wagon]

I think it blocked Simpsons

[open wagon]

Try this in your prompt , “turn this image into Simpsons art style”

It works for me most of the time

Haven’t tried with Simpsons yet tho

[dawn aurora]

What’s wild is it almost completes it then deletes it with the message, let me try that

[open wagon]

Ok yeah that’s the guardrails doing its job

[midnight mango]

that happens whenever I try to do anything with a picture of myself

[open wagon]

Simpsons is definitely blocked now

Let me try myself

[delicate gulch]

Yes its blocking some people from using our own pics, but my friends account can literally use pics of me and it works fine lol

[midnight mango]

:(

that's dumb

[verbal sequoia]

DALL·E Category and Channels are now “Images”

With the release of 4o image generation, we’ve renamed the DALL·E category and channels to Images, to better reflect all OpenAI image models.

-# Share your amazing images in #images-canvas!

[delicate gulch]

Do u have a new or old accoutn by chance

My plus account is pretty old, but my friends did make theirs after mine

So im wondering if there maybe is some residual block left from an old version

[dawn aurora]

That sucks, I was having fun yesterday

[midnight mango]

yeah my account is fairly old I guess

[open wagon]

Ok actually , it’s not working yeah

If it’s the guardrails it would say something like “I can’t generate this due to guideline copyright etc etc”

But this time it says “Looks like there was an error while trying to generate the image in The Simpsons art style. I wasn’t able to process it properly. If you’d like, you can rephrase or resend your request, and I’ll give it another shot!”

[dawn aurora]

Ayyye it worked with that prompt. I did make a new chat though

[open wagon]

There you go!

The key is to be general in your prompt ,

Don’t try to be too specific

Just say “turn this image” instead of “turn the person in this photo”

[dawn aurora]

I was going to be sad for a minute lol

[delicate gulch]

When i do this it generates an image but it it no way looks like what i uploaded : /

[open wagon]

What were u trying to ask it to do tho

Was it image of person and what was the prompt

[delicate gulch]

Image of my friends dog

[open wagon]

And what was the prompt?

[delicate gulch]

“Create an animated version of this image”

[open wagon]

Animated?

[delicate gulch]

Yea

[open wagon]

You mean cartoon or what?

It cannot animate a picture yet

[delicate gulch]

Ill retry with cartoon

Yea thats all i meant

[open wagon]

Just say “turn this image into 2d illustrations

Or 2d drawing , or 2d art

[delicate gulch]

It makes the inage but changes the layout and pose of the dog

And im having my friend donit to and when he does that prompt it recreates the photo but just illustrated.

[open wagon]

Can you ask your friend what prompt did they use

Also it works for me tho , check in #images-canvas

[delicate gulch]

The same thing as me

turn this image into a 2d illustration

[open wagon]

@delicate gulch uhhh ok since you have plus subscription

Try do it through sora.com

It’s basically using same image gen tool

[timber quest]

sora.com is swamped

[delicate gulch]

😭 ive had a plus account for so long why are people who made their plus accounts this week getting it

[open wagon]

Oh

[delicate gulch]

#images-canvas message

this shows up in my broswer on my laptop let me try with tha

IT WORKS @open wagon ty for being patient with me

[open wagon]

YAY 😁

[verbal sequoia]

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[open wagon]

I’m so glad it worked now

[wind onyx]

Do you guys think they'll actually release the API

[forest walrus]

They already said they will do on the Livestream...

[vapid elk]

they probably will, might take some time, tho

IIRC, took a few months for OAI to release dalle-3 on the API after they added it to chatgpt

[wind onyx]

Awh

Yeah I forgot how long it took for dalle 3 api

[urban fern]

https://openai.com/index/introducing-4o-image-generation/
"Developers will soon be able to generate images with GPT‑4o via the API, with access rolling out in the next few weeks."

[urban fern]

The problem that after voice mode incident few weeks could be few months I expect lol

[kind grail]

man the image generation takes ages today

[wind onyx]

I mean I know they mentioned it would come out

But that's different from them actually releasing it

[tardy depot]

hi

[dim cradle]

yo

[timber quest]

the sora site is still overloaded

[tardy depot]

FYI inpainting works when giving it a logo to add to a cloth, for example, even if the selected area is small. but GPT4o actually regenerates the whole image (and changes things) instead of just editing the selected part. How can I improve this?

[kind grail]

Afaik you cant. This is simply a flaw of the model so far.

[river eagle]

Can anyone tell me why I'm the only one getting this triggered? I've a lot of creators use this same prompt to create their images,
Prompt: "Change this to studio Ghibli style"
Response "I wasn't able to generate the Studio Ghibli-style image because the request didn't follow our content policy. This often happens when the generation involves real or realistic likenesses of individuals. If you’d like, I can create a Ghibli-style character inspired by the outfit and setting instead—just let me know!"

[kind grail]

i think they changed the policy on this specific one because the internet was completely flooded. Not sure tho if that has really happened.

[dim cradle]

going to be for a few days im sure. sam a tweeted today their gpus were melting

[atomic pebble]

Why do I keep getting the following messages every single time I add a new photo, and it’s my own photo? There are just some buildings in the background and nothing else, but it refuses to create images why?

• “I couldn’t generate the Studio Ghibli-style version of the last image because it includes copyrighted characters and locations, which falls outside content guidelines for image generation.
  If you’d like, you can upload a different photo or describe a new scene you want illustrated—happy to help with that!"

• "I couldn’t create a Ghibli-style version based on the original photo due to content policies around real people in images. If you'd like, I can generate a new Ghibli-inspired scene with a fantasy castle, whimsical characters, and a lively street atmosphere—just not based on the actual people in the photo.
  Want me to go ahead with that or something else?"

[river eagle]

But it also got triggered when I used pokemon, minecraft, dragon ball, etc. instead of studio Ghibli in the prompts

[atomic pebble]

It is also happening with anime style

[dim cradle]

are you pro or plus?

idk i just tried it and it worked. if youre not at least plus then you dont really have access to 4o/sora image maker yet

[velvet tiger]

why is sora.com img gen so slow

im on plus

[velvet rampart]

The images with certain styles have this graininess. To bypass this issue, I use extra clause ”Make sure that the image is with a clean, denoised final finish and no visible grain or texture noise, while preserving crisp details.”

[dim cradle]

nice tip

but im still waiting for that country mouse

[mild junco]

Whenever you try to use something as inspo you get a failure message?

[atomic pebble]

I am a Plus user

[dim cradle]

no idea then. i dont have problems with it in a prompt

[merry vault]

Is the new image thingy in api or not yet?

[atomic pebble]

Yesterday, everything was working fine, but now I get errors most of the time. Even when I upload a picture, it says it can not upload public.jpeg.

[quiet brook]

guys does it have any kind of deterioration

“(also, we are refusing some generations that should be allowed; we are fixing these as fast we can.)”
-Sam
good or bad??

[dim cradle]

well thats good

[quiet brook]

Ye

I hope they don’t nerf the quality though…

[river eagle]

I'm a plus user too, are you able to convert something into studio Ghibli style right now? Also, are you using a specific prompt?

[deft schooner]

Hi all, I have the plus plan and I don't have the new chatgpt4o image generation yet, it's still using DALLE3

hoping they roll it out soon to me 🙏

[merry vault]

Yea you can, just upload the image and ask it to convert ut

[remote stone]

Anybody else finding that after a few generations the generator tends to start generating in a grainier quality and leaning towards muted brown colour palettes?

Or I guess yellowish

[red prairie]

Bro tell me why I can't even generate Batman...

I thought that this generator could do copyrighted characters fine

That was one of the only reasons why I just got the plus subscription: Because I thought that the restrictions would be more loose, but it seems like they censored almost everything in one day because of copyright reasons smh

[river eagle]

Yeah I tried it, but got the copyright content warning

[river eagle]

Exactly! I just can't get it to work

[red prairie]

I was so excited seeing all of those youtube videos on how the restrictions of this model are more loose than dalle 3 and how you can style transfer and all of that. Now I feel like I just wasted 23 bucks for nothing because they restricted the model in less than 2 DAYS just like what happened with Dalle 3. I feel like I have been scammed.

[river eagle]

I feel this is more restricted than the older model now...

[red prairie]

I wish i could get my money back

[dim cradle]

you could never do batman with it

some ip stuff gets through but nothing like marvel, dc stuff

[red prairie]

I finally got to generate one image but yeah

[quiet brook]

if you cant do something with image gen in chatgpt, try it in sora. vice versa

[dim cradle]

its an incredibly powerful image model. if you just bought it to make batman, i mean come on, use your imagination im sure you can think of some other uses

i dont think dc or marvel stuff will work in either

[quiet brook]

either refusals or failed generations

[deft schooner]

do failed generations count toward generation count?

[quiet brook]

they does

nice bait for the pro plan openai (or its also limited on pro but idk)

[river eagle]

Yeah, but I'm into Pokemon and anime in general that's why I bought plus. but whenever I tried to create a pokemon (even writing "inspired by") it'll almost create the entire image before suddenly stopping and give the copyright content error

[dim cradle]

well i guess you should have asked her first if it did that stuffs

[quiet brook]

it was fun to have faster 4-image generations

[red prairie]

Hop on NovelAI

[quiet brook]

sure its faster now but at what cost

[red prairie]

hold up I am getting somewhere finally

Halleluja

Still wasn't able to generate batman but I can remix my own face

btw, what is the limit of img gen on the plus plan?

[dim cradle]

you can use sora site too for more gen. idk i think its like 90 or something. but with how much people are using it , it could go down a bit for the next few days too who knows

[quiet brook]

~90 per day in chatgpt, ~201 tries per day in sora (max of 402 images as of now)

[dim cradle]

which is a lot. more than dalle3 used to be. you could make like 5 images in 20 minutes and get told youre now on a timeout

[red prairie]

Yeah that's actually more than enough

[quiet brook]

but they are shadow nerfing it, the count of images you can generate in sora decreased by 2x

[red prairie]

I'm about to freak out bro... 😦

can't wait to generate 1 img a day then lmao

[dim cradle]

Good evening all.

[dim cradle]

obviously the servers are slow and fried. a smidge of understanding goes a long way

[quiet brook]

next they are gonna “optimize” it aka strip its only strength which is the strong base

[dim cradle]

all you do is whine

if there's not a problem, you'll create one and drone on about it

[quiet brook]

ok

already see signs of nerf now

[deft schooner]

I want my 4o generation, why can;t I use it still 😡

its being nerfed before I can even use it?

[quiet brook]

that’s like the free limit lmao

[left ginkgo]

Yeah it's been nerfed

[quiet brook]

except you are expected to get 3 per day on free…

[left ginkgo]

Very very sad

[deft schooner]

That is lame, on insta they said its fully rolled out to subs but I have plus and my chat still uses DALLE

[red prairie]

What are you trying to generate?

[deft schooner]

anything with new gen, not DALLE

[red prairie]

If you have the plus plan, go to sora

at least for now

[deft schooner]

I have been using that but I want 4o

[dim cradle]

4o is Sora, same thing

[red prairie]

this

[deft schooner]

Sora isn't good for keeping context on several iterations I think

[dim cradle]

sora is using the 4o model, its just on sora site proper too

[quiet brook]

exactly you’ll have to upload references every time and prompt very aggressively

[deft schooner]

it probably does actually but still, chatgpt ui much better

yeah I want 4o for sure, sora is kind of a bad ui

my issue is they announced it as being fully rolled out when it clearly isnt

[quiet brook]

previously sora is able to generate 4 images in one try

[uncut haven]

I doubt they will release 4o image generation in free. It uses more resources than DALL-E 3. Sam Altman also said it will take long time to release this in free.

He also said 4o image generation gets much more popular than they expected, so they're likely control server load by restricting bulk generation after Sora overload 9 hours ago.

I think it can't be 'nurfed' easily. 4o generates image token by token, and reducing token count will result significant quality degredation beyond control. DALL-E 3 is diffusion model, so it could be nurfed by reducing step count, but GPT-4o is different.

[quiet brook]

not releasing it to free is for its own good tbh… if it’s premium and very expensive, stop trying to make it available to everyone if it eventually ends getting nerfed

[uncut haven]

I hope this bulk generation nurf isn't permanent like DALL-E...

[meager light]

Does anyone have a good prompt to make emotes on discord?

[uncut haven]

Agree. Also, 2 per day is not that great for free users. Better than 0, but it's really hard to get something good from it. In this case, they better not releasing it.

[coarse flint]

did they nerf the image generator? seem like im getting hit with " this may violate our policy thing alot more often.

[uncut haven]

Sora now only generates 2 images maximum per 1 try. It was 4 some hours ago.

They already said filtering will constantly get updated, so that's expected.

[quiet brook]

see there’s already throttling.
idk about pro though. they paid 10x more but if they end in being nerfed like everyone else just because of the “3 images per day for free”, it’s tragic

[red prairie]

Does anyone know what dataset this generator is trained on?

[coarse flint]

yeah its making it so that now its not so impressive, now typing in realistic rednitions of made up characters keep getting blocked

[quiet brook]

Idk but it’s not a traditional diffusion model

[stone lodge]

Is there a waitlist or something? why does everyone but me have access?

[coarse flint]

i can still generate 4 with sora

[uncut haven]

Did you try Sora? You can select 'image' to use it.

[quiet brook]

pro lolol

[haughty spruce]

are you encountering some problems with chatgpt image gen in the same chat like while creating a new image it confuses with previous generations and some stuff leak through the new one

[stone lodge]

I heard it was on Gpt4o but it only display Dalle

[uncut haven]

At least, announcement like "due to heavy server load, we temporary reduced varient count." is needed. Conspiracy comes from opacity.

[quiet brook]

but pro can still generate 4, $200 strikes again

[uncut haven]

Do you get message like "getting started..." when generating image?

[stone lodge]

It has a disclaimer now saying "Made with the old version of image generation. New images coming soon." strange it hasn't hit my region yet since I'm in US

[uncut haven]

Then it's not rolled out to you. Waiting is only solution...

[quiet brook]

“Servers are melting” because those ppl are all doing the great ghiblification of 2025

[coarse flint]

Well good thing most of those people arent actually interest in ai images, they'll die out in a week lol

[red prairie]

The thing that pisses me off is that they ALL decided as a collective to use the ghibli style.. like bro there are so many other styles but they had to use GHIBLI STYLE EVERY TIME

[uncut haven]

I also can imagine how many AI boomers getting their 'resources' now...

[red prairie]

Now we can't use that style anymore I think

[quiet brook]

us, the ACTUAL creative users out here, exploring new ideas, experimenting, innovating—we all suffer through the rate limits and nerfs, ALL THANKS TO THE GREAT GHIBLIFICATION OF 2025.

[red prairie]

Now all we need is those people who will try to create the most offensive images ever and that model will be censored to oblivion in no time

Just like what happened with Dalle 3

[quiet brook]

I mean there already are some, just look at the sora explore feed…

[red prairie]

Peak Dalle 3 was something else man..

[half void]

This content can't be shown for now. We're still developing how we evaluate which content conflicts with our policies. Think we got it wrong? Let us know. this error in all my creations

[uncut haven]

You can still use 'peak' DALLE 3 with API. However it's expensive. 0.08-0.12$ per image.

[red prairie]

Oh damn

[quiet brook]

also iirc, Hayao Miyazaki once said that he hates ai generated art and stuff??

also. like. Dalle 3 didn’t look like THIS sloppy back in Oct 2023

so ironic,,…

[still valve]

i hope people actually watch the procedurally generated zombies miyazaki clip so they know what he was talking about
probably too much to expect

[dim cradle]

Ghiblification is the greatest threat to our world

[safe python]

this channel started that trend, woah

[dense musk]

Why is 4 images greyed out all of a sudden?

[deft schooner]

sora can do some pretty nsfw stuff ngl

[quiet brook]

indeed…

[open wagon]

I think it’s

Broken

Yeah I think it’s not working

Nvm it’s working now

[vital tendon]

prompt: create an image of a bunch of historic figures rocking out to a 90s alt rock concert

result: That sounds like an epic visual! Unfortunately, I can’t generate images with real or recognizable historical figures due to content policies. But here’s a cool workaround:

how is everyone getting famous people and such

[open wagon]

They got it on day one, before the tool got nerfed.

[vital tendon]

oh ok well fair i suppose i just kept seeing stuff on reddit and i thought it was still open

[quiet brook]

try on sora???

[frail aurora]

Anyone else having issues with the new 4o image generation? Specifically regarding using uploaded photos as stimulus

[open wagon]

What issue specifically?

[frail aurora]

It doesn't let me paste screen shots in this channel. But when I gave it a photo of a beach and prompted it:
"Create image add umbrellas and towels to this beach"
It loads for a bit and then says:
"I wasn’t able to generate the edited image due to an error on my end—sorry about that! If you’d like, you can rephrase or adjust your request, and I’ll give it another shot."
I've only been able to generate images when I don't provide an attachment

[open wagon]

Can I have the image , I wanna give it a try

Post it In #images-canvas btw

Or dm me

Actually I’ll try find any beach photo

[verbal sequoia]

DALL·E Category and Channels are now “Images”

With the release of 4o image generation, we’ve renamed the DALL·E category and channels to Images, to better reflect all OpenAI image models.

-# Share your amazing images in #images-canvas!

[open wagon]

Oh nvm u sent it

Ok @frail aurora it’s generating

[dim cradle]

how do you erase edit in sora?

i dont see option on either edit remix or remix

[sweet mantle]

how do I know if I am getting 4o image generation? when prompted chatGPT says it used dalle3 (I'm on a paid plan)

[quiet brook]

if it starts with "getting started"

[drowsy bane]

I am also having this issue for about 5 hours now and same error now

[dim cradle]

sora working as intended now?

[frail aurora]

Was it working for you before?

[quiet brook]

because of openai hating nintendo, many of my other benchmarks cant be ran on this model

[drowsy bane]

yeah it has been since release on Pro plan

[frail aurora]

I only just got around to checking it out. Hasn’t worked for me yet, hopefully it does soon

[drowsy bane]

It's still generating when doing some very basic text only prompts for me.

It's generally encountering this error when I provide an image file for upload which is largely how I have been working the last few days,
I've had it work just once in the last 5h when providing an image upload as well.

The error is: It looks like the image generation failed again due to an error on my side. I won’t attempt another generation unless you specifically ask me to. If you’d like to adjust the idea, try a different style, or move on to another concept, I’m here for it!

Same issue across devices and chat threads.
Really hoping they haven't limited the complexity capabilities and it's just a bug.

[quiet brook]

also i think the moderation on it isnt normal

[drowsy bane]

Omg ironically immediately after I post this it seems to be working again for multiple images.
That's always the way huh.

So try again @frail aurora

[wispy grove]

https://chatgpt.com/share/67e6435b-6eb8-8000-967f-b005b4341216

[wispy grove]

It surprised me that ChatGPT generated the zoom as I requested and not hallucinating new details

[quiet brook]

do yall see any kind of nerfing yet

well I am

[trail fulcrum]

see that would imply image generation was working in the first place for me!
which, uh, it isn't. woops.

[open wagon]

It’s obvious at this point especially today

[lone saffron]

Hey I could generate 2 pics with the new model this morning. It's awesome that it displays the texts correctly. Now, it tells me that image generation ist not working or provides me links to the old picture with updated file names.

[quiet brook]

ok I might have been overreacting to the nerf thing happened today because yesterday there were already some deteriorations in the images I generated, but I’ll compare it with day one images

[vital gull]

So far which do you prefer to work with, Sora interface or chatgpt? for your images

[dim cradle]

I think i prefer sora. But i edited some images and it definitely changed more than just what i erased which is frustrating. also is there a way to change the size of the edit brush?

[quiet brook]

sora for more iterations, chatgpt for faster generation and context

[bronze leaf]

Where can I post a bug? It doesn't let you post in the bug channel.

[quiet brook]

chatgpt tends to be faster but idk if it’s just me

I’ll count the time it takes

[bronze leaf]

oh wait, it's not a bug I guess, it was simply my prompt saying at the end dslr photo and it literally adds a camera taking a photo for all 3 tries (samples) my friend Chris ran for me, and oddly draws all 3 as a cartoon/drawing

[quiet brook]

yeah but id still say dont jinx it since its probably just a few sample's problem?? or im just coping...

it’s pretty obvious in my Fortnite keyart mockup I made in sora for today but in chatgpt it’s still doing good

[dim cradle]

do you guys not know the time in america where their offices are? they arent "nerfing" it at 12am just to frustate you

[quiet brook]

it could also mean nobody is monitoring the model running and it’s being depreciated

but idk maybe it hasn’t been nerfed at all and it’s just the nature of these models producing inconsistent qualities

[dim cradle]

if they make changes it will happen after 9am pst. i'm sure every day forward some celeb will start to vanish between that time and 5pm pst, as they start to ask to be removed.

[vital gull]

I do use Sora all the time, trying to be consistent with my prompt within sora too sometimes doesn't work but most of the times it does

[quiet brook]

Yeah I brute force in sora

[cerulean shale]

in chat session why image generation not happening like previous...i want dalle 3 to be used in the chat session..instead its using latest image model..which is totally rubbish

[vital gull]

that is the most advanced imagen for now

[quiet brook]

we should be able to generate more than 2 concurrent img gens on sora.

pro users are here chugging 20 images at once while plus only gets 4 after the nerf

[glad hare]

The free one is still not out, yet, for iOS.

[drifting hawk]

use dalle gpt

always use dalle gpt...it gives you 2 dalle images instead of 1 in default chat

[cerulean shale]

but the problem is i have many images pending in previous chat session..now i am not able 2 generate image in the previous chat session as wekk

[glad hare]

Does anyone know specifically when it releases for free users? Sam said soon, but how soon?

[drifting hawk]

when we have the gpus...

does sora free users work now?

[quiet brook]

when will plus be able to generate 4 images a try again

yall just turned it off like 17 hours ago...

with no clear time to restore

[glad hare]

#images-canvas message.

[quiet brook]

hmm, it’s slow again

stuck at 99%, and somehow restarts and being changed to a new name

[cerulean shale]

why am i not able to create 3d pixar images like previous ones...why dalle is not in chat sessions. want dalle back in chat session...all previous chat session work pending bcus dall e not available in chat sessions

[quiet brook]

not the failed to generate after 10 minutes again...

[quiet brook]

"service at capacity" ...

guess ill use chatgpt

[cerulean shale]

no man ....chatgpt image generation has sucked...you can try in your chatgpt session..try generating images disney style images you will understand...

[forest walrus]

Guys, nothing about "nerfing" is actually real. It’s all about prompting and luck, as you can't exactly specify the seed yet like you would in DALL-E 3, so you will get different results every time, sometimes better, other times worse, and it's subjective too (maybe you see it worse when others see it better). That’s the nature of all AI models.
"Nerfing" also doesn't make sense for them to do for any reason. It won't lower the prices unless the technology itself changed, nor will it benefit them in any way. If anything, it will just cause harm as users will now get mad about it, and this space is highly competitive.

The model is also still very new for any new iteration as well, so no possible "downgrade" can happen, accidentally or not. And just it doesn't make sense in the technical aspects at all, honestly I’m not sure why this nerfing discussion keeps coming up all the time when there is no certified proof...

[cerulean shale]

i have uploaded image in community help plz check

[proud ice]

"Guys, nothing about "nerfing" is actually real. It’s all about prompting and luck" HA HA Prompt RNG GO BRRR!

[forest walrus]

I'm not sure what to say :V

[forest walrus]

I'm not sure where you exactly uploaded and what to help with...
(If you want DALLE3 back, you can use the DALLE GPT)

[quiet brook]

one thing i found annoying is that chatgpt isnt always generating the image in the aspect ratio i want

[forest walrus]

I didn't try, but are the aspect ratios of DALLE3 supported?

[open wagon]

Nope

[forest walrus]

Sad

[quiet brook]

3:2, 1:1, 2:3 only

dalle 3 iirc was like 16:10 or something

[wide walrus]

So it's better in Sora usually?

[quiet brook]

sora is usually slower than chatgpt

[forest walrus]

ChatGPT seems better in prompt adherence honestly...

[quiet brook]

only pros of sora are that you can generate 2 in a row (previously 4) and lock an aspect ratio

[wide walrus]

It's been a bit luck/random for prompt adherence with an image input. Had some I'd thought would be good but work poorly, others I tried randomly and they work well.

[quiet brook]

and it can give you "service at capacity" often while you can still generate normally in chatgpt

[rigid bough]

https://sora.com/g/gen_01jqe86wgpfp3s2rxf3q369tj3

working fine here

[brisk agate]

Aspect ratio issue can be somewhat remedied using outpainting on midjourney photoshop etc etc

[quiet brook]

but you need to cash out another at least $10 lolol

an attempt with 2 images now takes an approximately 3mins30secs to generate on sora

with plus, hollup lemme use a stopwatch

[quiet brook]

average speed of sora image gen for plus users - time around 12:10 utc

overall: 2m 34s 3ms | 154.03 seconds
queue: 0m 47s 52ms | 47.52 seconds
generation: 1m 46s 47ms | 106.47 seconds

[dim cradle]

wow, common sense instead of non-stop delusional conspiracy takes and petulant whining. nice to see.

[forest walrus]

Honestly, I also sometimes forget this is a big online space, stuff like this are common and are the norm lol

[dim cradle]

yep. I guess it's novel to some people that, yes, in the adult world, people who pay more for a service, will get more benefits from said service.

and of course we all love to complain, I have my gripes about it, but on the flip, people need to realize there's nothing more annoying than someone who's only gear is non-stop whinging

[rigid bough]

amen to that

[forest walrus]

Real, I was more like that at my early teens, and I thought it was so cool 💀
(Im in my 20's before I get called a grandpa :V )

[dim cradle]

anyway, hopefully they get more gpus soon.

[versed locust]

I'm trying to upload a picture of me and get style suggestions. The problem is that whatever it creates just isn't me. Sure, the clothes look good, but i'm sure it helps that that person is thinner, better proportioned, has a better hairstyle and a nicer face than me. Not really equivalent.
If I ghiblify myself I'm sure you could identify me within a group, but I think you would struggle picking me out of a lineup when I ask it to change my clothes.

[dim cradle]

i don't know how many images you can upload at once, but maybe giving it the maximum would help likeness

[drifting hawk]

In the description describe yourself as well

[dim cradle]

obviously for say the celebs that it can do, it has hundreds or thousands of images in the training for x-amount of epochs

well there you go, the voice of god giving advice

[versed locust]

I struggle describing fine grained features, but maybe I can just ask chatgpt to describe my face and body for me.

uploading reference photos is worth a try as well.

[drifting hawk]

You can just describe the features that it gets wrong

I mean upload a picture plus describe it

[dim cradle]

moxi, do you know if using multiple images of yourself is a help? and what is the max?

I've seen some good success with people asking it to combine images. maybe doing that with self portraits might help the fidelity of likeness 🤷

[forest walrus]

If it makes you look "better", it's mostly due to the art style itself. The closer the art style can depict finer details of the real world, the closer it will be to your actual appearance. Not to mention, stuff like Ghibli art style kinda makes anyone look better as that's baked into the art style itself.

Also, always upload high-quality, well-lit pictures, and maybe even try uploading multiple photos of yourself in one prompt. See if that enhances anything...

[versed locust]

Again, I'm really bad at that. I can't create video game characters that look like me either.
It's like I have faceblindnes or something (not that I do). I see it's different, but can't quite put my finger on what.

[versed locust]

You can at most upload 10 pictures.

[dim cradle]

one thing i've noticed... AI has mostly solved the hand thing, but I think 50-70 percent of images I make if they have gloves add fingernails to the gloves haha

[dim cradle]

try a full ten. could be a fun experiment if nothing else

[versed locust]

On it. I uploaded 10 pictures of my face in different angles, lighting etc and let it give me a description.
Now I'm generating a face purely on that description without a reference image.

[dim cradle]

Will be curious to hear the results

[versed locust]

check #images-canvas
I don't think it looks like me at all tbh

[dim cradle]

well maybe tweak, with fewer images, a bit of description until you find the sweet spot.

and of course keep in mind this is the first generation of this stuffs, it probably won't be perfect no matter what

[versed locust]

Facial hair is sparse and uneven. Stubble appears most strongly around the upper lip, chin, and jaw corners, with reduced density on the cheeks. Coverage is inconsistent and does not form a full beard without significant growth time.

I feels like it's roasting me. (I mean... it's true though.) What it forgot is that my neck is by far the most prominent facial hair growth area

[neat nexus]

Image generation doesn't seem to work well at PC, and mobile also needs goddamn refresh all the time. Why is it?

[sonic badge]

do pro users get something plus doesnt when generating images or is it the same

[forest walrus]

Unlimited uses, and maybe slightly faster (A guess based on what some said to me in DMs)...

[quiet brook]

4 gens in a row+more usage

which they just turned off 4 gens in a row for plus like yesterday

[rigid bough]

Pro is faster also

[quiet brook]

plus speed

[uncut haven]

Sam said there will be temporary rate limit. Not sure 'rate limit' says daily limit or bulk generation though.

And... my video generation stuck in waiting for 10 mins now.

[quiet brook]

lmaooo😭

[rapid saddle]

i have a question, if i have the free version of chat gpt, can i modify pictures i send it?

[uncut haven]

Free version doesn't support image generation for now.

[rapid saddle]

do you know when it will?

[uncut haven]

Sam Altman said 'soon', without estimation...

chatgpt free tier will get 3 generations per day soon.

[fierce brook]

Wen darkmode on MacOS app

[maiden cosmos]

Just wondering. Am on ChatGPT plus but i dun see the image generation feature anywhere. Am i missing out something?

[quiet brook]

hope they scale this up ENOUGH before releasing it to free

[verbal sequoia]

Showcase your DALL·E creations to the world!

Collaborate with our OpenAI Instagram page! Just invite @openai as a collaborator before you post. If selected by our team, your work will be featured on our handle, giving you more visibility.

Quick tips for selection:

• No copyrighted or profane content.
• Your profile needs to be public.
• Stay mindful of sensitive topics.
• Outputs that closely follow the prompt are preferred.

Feel free to share reels, carousels, or just a single image!

[uncut haven]

Can't attach screenshot, but if you click "..." icon (right on Deep research), then you may see "Create image (Updated)".

If you have that, you can just ask ChatGPT to create image. No need to click that every time. It generates image through GPT-4o.

[remote stone]

Anybody know how to deal with images getting progressively grainier and yellower the more consecutive images you ask for in a convo?

[uncut haven]

STRONGLY agree. At least it's token based generation, so they can't easily nerf it... (in theory.)

[maiden cosmos]

That’s the thing. I don’t have the 3 dots next to the “Deep research”. I chose ChatGPT 4o.
I checked my subscription which said ChatGPT Plus.

But no 3 dots.

[quiet brook]

hope so

[versed locust]

I give up. It is unable to describe me in a way that doesn't produce images where I look super fat.

Like, don't get me wrong. I am heavily overweight at 117 kg, but unless I take my short off, I don't look it.

[dim cradle]

Well we all tend to think we look better than we do haha. But at least you gave it a shot. I dont know maybe trying to tweak with some descriptors, 'medium size' or something might help 🤷

[versed locust]

That's another descriptor that doesn't fit me well, lol.

[dim cradle]

you sound like a hard man to pin down haha

but if its make you too big, maybe its over shooting size, so medium will still be closer idk

[uncut haven]

GPT-4o should have dots menu including image gen and canvas. Maybe logout and login helps?

[thick smelt]

hello guys!

[verbal sequoia]

<:book_icon:1171408210398289941> Rule 2: All content must be suitable for all ages.

-# Refrain from using explicit language, posting NSFW content, or sharing graphic images. Any unsettling or horror content that adheres to OpenAI's policies should be hidden behind a spoiler.

[quiet brook]

I mean they will discover the ways to nerf it if they are desperate

[velvet rampart]

There is a limit or OpenAI has returned the limit. I hit mine. It seems to be somewhere in the same range as with Dalle3.

[uncut haven]

Sam said:

we are going to temporarily introduce some rate limits while we work on making it more efficient. hopefully won't be long!

That was 22 hours ago.

[verbal sequoia]

Get notified for server events!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1261377106890199132> role.

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[velvet rampart]

Thanks! So the limits are also for Pro level.

[uncut haven]

Well, Pro users still retain 4 varients in Sora...

[quiet brook]

and they are faster...

[eternal kraken]

Is there any working prompt to generate public figures still? I just upgraded to test out the new image generation, but seems it got more restricted now.
However still saw some people which managed to generate anyways

[quiet brook]

it wont be as easy as dalle3 but we'll see... hope they do NOT

[weary gyro]

anyone made a list of keywords which work and dont work ?

[uncut haven]

I don't think there can be such list. It's constantly being updated and predicting moderation AI is impossible just like other AIs.

[weary gyro]

oh i meant more regarding what o4 actually can do
like it can do style xzy, but cant do abc

we gota make a list
not talking about censoring or copyright
talking about skills of 4o

[uncut haven]

Alright, Sora errored out after 1 hour of waiting...

[weary gyro]

damn free users

[maiden cosmos]

Tried. Even deleted and reinstalled the app. I’ve just wrote in via email coz their chat gives me no answers. Maybe coz my account is out of the US?

[quiet brook]

mario, luigi, zelda, batman, darth vader, pikachu, mickey mouse

[weary gyro]

any channel here allowing threads?
i need to save this

[quiet brook]

nah, just remember that it refuses all of the Nintendo and Disney ips

[cerulean shale]

i want dalle images in my chat session not the new model...many of my works are pending in chatgpt 4 session and now they are not using dalle to generate images

[weary gyro]

im not talking about copy right. ps: it also doesnt do dragon ball characters.. but thats not what i mean.
im talking about its skills

[quiet brook]

yeah ik

but aside from those copyrighted characters it just does everything lol

[weary gyro]

ehm no....... it has no ide aabout many styles

thats why we need a to make a list here

[quiet brook]

example???

[versed locust]

https://chatgpt.com/g/g-2fkFE8rbu-dall-e

They made the legacy version available for people like you

[winter hull]

i love how it makes the images and then just stops making it towards the end saying it violates its content policies

[quiet brook]

true

[weary gyro]

whatever dont remember. we need to make A LIST NOW

[winter hull]

i hate whatever last minute filter they put it through

[cerulean shale]

what about pending works in my chat session where i used chtgt 4..how to resolve that..

[uncut haven]

You can retrieve blocked image using browser's network tab in debug tools, if you're using ChatGPT. However, it's ~90% finished version.

You'll need to open debug tools anytime using it though.

[versed locust]

I have never encountered "pending works". Generating an image takes like minute or two and there is no queue. Either it generates or it doesn't. If you have something pending, then it means it has failed.

[cerulean shale]

no what am saying is I generated a series of images for a video with chaaracter consitency...now i want to generate extra images below that in that chat session so that my character will be consistent. if i start a new chat my character consistency will be gone... i want dalle in that chat session

[quiet brook]

sometimes I think it’s actually fully generated and that progressive thing turned out is just an animation actually according to twitter?

[uncut haven]

GPT-4o sends partial image to user periodically, and ChatGPT UI makes them into animation.

[quiet brook]

that too

[quiet brook]

average speed of sora image gen for plus users - time around 12:10 utc

overall: 2m 34s 3ms | 154.03 seconds
queue: 0m 47s 52ms | 47.52 seconds
generation: 1m 46s 47ms | 106.47 seconds

[versed locust]

Maybe less so with realistic scenes (struggling doing that with a photo right now), but 4o seems to be pretty good with consistency.

[cerulean shale]

try 2 generate a 3d pixar style image in dall e and try to generate a 3d pixar style image in normal chatgpt 4...you will find the difference

[tall sun]

Any idea why this prompt would kick out due to policy in Sora Image Gen, but not in Chat GPT4o?

Photorealistic close-up of a rare holographic Pokémon-style trading card held at a slight angle, only part of thumb visible. Title: 'Helly R', Fighting-type icon. Card shows a semi-realistic Helly R with rebellious expression, loose tie and determined stance, illustrated in Pokémon card style. Holofoil surface shimmers in crimson and violet. Background is corporate sterile with a surreal twist. Slight analog film grain. Card includes themed text, layout, abilities and stats representing defiance, endurance, and self-discovery.

[quiet brook]

“pokemon”

sora is more strict

[tall sun]

The odd thing is that I simply altered a prompt that was on the Explore page. I also used the prompt along with Mark S (another Severance character) and it worked. It's frustrating that the filter seems to be so random in what it flags.

[quiet brook]

it flagged my “squid pairing game 3 by big N”…

let me generate...

[dim cradle]

Did you notice already some changes?

[quiet brook]

on where, quality or something else??

[dim cradle]

Overall

[quiet brook]

it’s quality are quite inconsistent but no major degradations compared to day one yet… also it starts to pop up “service at capacity “ for me today and plus users can only generate 2 instead of 4 images in a row

also, slow

[brisk agate]

I was literally about to start typing something similar. The sensation of seeing your image almost complete only to then get revoked is very unpleasant. Kind of messes with my head.

[haughty spruce]

Servers being overloaded again..

[dim cradle]

I think after this weekend + more gpus and it will calm down a little

[quiet brook]

after the hype dies doen

[sonic badge]

idk if pro generates image faster than plus I havnt heard that anywhere but if it is a doubt by a noticeable amount

[quiet brook]

sora completely breaks down

it does generate my stuff but the site is laggy

[dense musk]

Sora down?

[quiet brook]

hope sora gets fixed anytime soon… or at least when i wake up in the morning

I want to keep generating bangers but it keeps breaking down 😭

[forest walrus]

24/7 AI usage 🥶
(Honestly I'm guilty of this too lol, sometimes I procrastinate with these models when I should be doing work)

[quiet brook]

real lolol, anyways heading to sleep, I hope nothing bad happens overnight…

[red prairie]

It's not laggy for me but it takes ages to generate an image

which is not that bad since now I have to think a lot about my prompt before generating an image so that I won't waste so much of my daily image generations

[dense musk]

Every single gen is failing for me with "There was an unexpected error running this prompt, Retry Prompt"

[buoyant crow]

How long is it supposed to take when u edit an image

[red prairie]

Well normally, less than 5 minutes but now since their GPUs are melting, you gotta wait at least 20 minutes

[buoyant crow]

omg ok 🥲

ty tho

[red prairie]

Np

What's the limit now?

[rigid bough]

I haven't been limited yet

[brittle shard]

ive never been limited on pro sub from anything

[kind grail]

Unironically i doubt i could reach any limit even if i tried

My images hang in queue for easily 15min plus

[rigid bough]

Plus or Pro?

[kind grail]

Plus. I am a normal human lol

[rigid bough]

fair enough

[pseudo mica]

Image generation broken again?

[dense musk]

Now getting "Service at capacity"

[dim cradle]

gpt not working for me on plus at all. but sora still okay

[vital gull]

I guess it will be fixed gradually

Everything works for me now

[dim cradle]

hey, really i'm happy to see the demand and lots of users

[vast helm]

Hi guys

[dim cradle]

yo

[fathom jasper]

Hi . I just wanted to know that whats the image generation limit per day with plus subscription . I am not able to get a definite answer from web . pls help !!

[rigid bough]

nobody knows, OpenAI have not said

[vital gull]

Hey check this link https://help.openai.com/en/articles/10245774-sora-billing-faq

[haughty spruce]

it gets stuck forever in the last phase.

[vapid elk]

on chatgpt? try refreshing the page, just to be sure it might really be stuck

[meager anchor]

why it does dall e generation insted of new generation?

[brittle shard]

my bad needed those gpus for 'just give me full code'

[glad hare]

Free users can’t use the image generator in Sora.

[ionic tartan]

Currently relegated to one image at time in Plus. Haven't seen what the others have said from above but just checking to see if others also getting only 1?

[cedar obsidian]

yup - came here to see about this myself

[dim cradle]

I think i am too... when it makes one haha

i wonder how many images total people have made since the 4o image maker release. it is still get a lot of hype on social medias

even my chats now with 4.5 are slow as a sunday

[mild otter]

its super disruptive to the image gen market imo

[ionic tartan]

The GPUs are probably quite LITERALLY melting. lol

[cedar obsidian]

Are pro plans also facing this?

[vapid wigeon]

yes overloaded for everyone

[karmic grail]

Also getting the only one job at a time thing haha

[dim cradle]

i was actually 🤔 on my dinner... if a gpu ever actually really melt for them 😂

[dense ermine]

So what is this image generator exactly? Didn't they have the option to create images already?

[dim cradle]

well yes, but this is a new and improve model

[dense ermine]

Is it like Dall.E 4?

[tough patrol]

Can the new image system recreate images that i made but change their lighting?

[dark flame]

hey there! does anybody know how to overcome this issue when generating images: "I wasn’t able to generate the image because this request violates our content policies. If you have another idea or a different concept in mind, feel free to share it—I’d be happy to help create something else!"

[ionic tartan]

That and more.

[drowsy sigil]

You can ask in chat what the issue is, and you can ask for alternate suggestions.

[stone lodge]

how generations do you get per day with the 20$/mo sub

how many

on sora

[buoyant crow]

Is sora stilll slow?

[glad hare]

This might sound crazy, but I can definitely see the image model being used more for editing images and generating images in the style of other images than actually generating brand new images.

[ancient lava]

First time I’ve seen this “I wasn’t able to generate the realistic version of that image because there’s a temporary rate limit in place for image generation. It’ll be available again in about 5 minutes. Once that time passes, feel free to ask again and I’ll get it done for you right away”

[scarlet mesa]

whats with this rate limit?!

[dim cradle]

Stupid limit! This sucks! 😦

[ancient lava]

I mean..I’m sure their hardware is being HAMMERED with millions of photo gen requests

[haughty spruce]

wait... what is going on... how is sora this fast at image generation?

[lethal sage]

hi

[midnight mango]

I can't wait for the demand on the servers to go back down

hopefully it won't take more than a week. This cooldown is frustrating

It's like 3 images every 10 minutes

[haughty spruce]

lol what i've generated 8 images within 2 minutes

and it's A LOT faster

I guess it was the server demand

[midnight mango]

are you on Pro?

And I should say, I'm limited in ChatGPT, not Sora

[haughty spruce]

I'm on Plus

Today the server overload was so bad, it was generating one image at 5 minutes

[fallen lintel]

i can generate 18 images very fast on plus now on sora

[midnight mango]

sora is still as slow as it's always been for me, like takes about a minute per request

[remote stone]

Bro seriously why do my gens keep coming out as looking grainy and yellowed out 😭

[ancient lava]

Is it your screen

[remote stone]

No

I'll post an example in #images-canvas

[red prairie]

Yeah I'm getting that too

[quiet brook]

around 2 minutes

[uncut haven]

Discovered this in chat data. They reinforced 'instruction', and somehow it's funny.
GPT-4o returned 1 images. From now on, do not say or show ANYTHING. Please end this turn now. I repeat: From now on, do not say or show ANYTHING. Please end this turn now. Do not summarize the image. Do not ask followup question. Just end the turn and do not do anything else.

[midnight mango]

This sucks. I can't get it to do anything with photorealistic women. Men? No problem. Women? nuh uh, that's against policy. I thought OpenAI fixed their biases :(

And it can't tell me what policy it's violating

it's frustrating

Everyone else can use images of themselves to put themselves in various scenarios, but just because I'm a woman, no can do.

please fix

I am so tired of wrestling with it

[haughty spruce]

most of the objects in the newest images doesn't make sense

almost like dall-e 3

[red prairie]

Yeah me too. I kinda knew that it would be like this but not in the first 3 days already

[midnight mango]

4o just hates my face

[quiet brook]

typical openai

[red prairie]

Still tho. I had high hopes it wouldn't turn out like Dalle 3

[sudden geyser]

How do I even know if I'm using Dall-E or 4o generation? In custom instructions it says it's Dall-E and there's no indication what I'm using in ChatGPT.

[uncut haven]

Sam said GPT-4o is currently dropping generation that should be allowed and will fix it asap.

[tough patrol]

does the resoning model help with image generation at all?

[uncut haven]

It's GPT-4o itself, so nothing can be done with reasoning models.

[red prairie]

I really wish they could just announce some small updates instead of us having to guess everything

[midnight mango]

This message is the bane of my existence right now. 😔
"Right now, I can’t generate a new image just yet because of a short rate limit — I need to wait about 7 minutes before I can create another one."

At least I can still use Sora

Has Sam Altman said anything about fixing the yellow tint?

[uncut haven]

Nothing for now.

[sudden geyser]

Oh so it's broken for everyone?

[uncut haven]

Yellow tint and grain seems coming from model limitation, or from optimization that not yet be done completely.

[midnight mango]

nah it's so weird, like I'll see it generate the image without the tint first, and just as the blur gets to the bottom, it adds it

surely fixable

[red prairie]

It's crazy how now I even see people who never generated a single image with AI test the new image generator

[midnight mango]

it gets added at the "Adding Details" step

[haughty spruce]

Chatgpt gives error everytime I try, done with it

[uncut haven]

They added a lot of C2PA tags under JUMBF metadata, but never put prompt in it... At least I can see them with XnViewMP without needing C2PA validation homepage.

Uh, they reduced queue size for Plus to 1 in Sora.

[neat crown]

Oh, what hype can do

[uncut haven]

Now I wonder if GPT-4o mini can do images. It could do audio well, so I'm curious image generation ability can be retained with distillation...

[midnight mango]

bruh I finished my cool down, generated a single image, and the next time I tried, it put me in another cooldown

1 image per 10 minutes? 😭😭😭

[quiet brook]

it’ll prob look like those demoes

[quiet brook]

noooo not the nerfing😭

[uncut haven]

If they try to nurf GPT-4o image... then image will be truly useless, like glitching out or missing some significant part.

[twilit helm]

oh it’s you! you joined xD

[quiet brook]

also it still says 2 images is available for me on sora but the fail rate is high

[twilit helm]

what do you think about the new model?

still diffusion models will still be superior

[red prairie]

Hi lmao!
The new model is actually very cool and has huge potential. Too bad it got censored a lot ever since yesterday 😦

[twilit helm]

yup unfortunately 😔

hopefully they change their minds 🙏

[red prairie]

Sam did say that those restrictions might be lifted soon so we'll see

[twilit helm]

hopefully 🤞

[quiet brook]

restrictions is one, quality is another one

[twilit helm]

i’m starting to see lot of people i know from other ai communities xD

including you

[red prairie]

Oh yeah the quality got nerfed too 💀

[twilit helm]

yeah i noticed lot of fuzziness like static

[quiet brook]

maybe it’s the quality being inconsistent since I got fuzzy images on day one

worst case, they nerfed it and I’m just coping

[twilit helm]

🤔