images-discussions

[dim cradle]

i mean that are allowed

some performacne thing? just to taunt us? 🤔

[hybrid fox]

What's your approach for intentionally confusing something great at understanding?

[shut niche]

Because the general public can't write, and so it would receive books of incoherent text, which would lead to terrible images.

[true mural]

sentence fragments, non-existent concepts, ambiguity, etc.

[hybrid fox]

Ive tried to add "extremely vague" to some details for interesting results but I think I have to insert the ambiguity myself rather than just asking it to be ambiguos lol

[dim cradle]

lots of people think 4.5 is due tomorrow or soon, i wonder if a better model could make prompting any better. it seems its probably already as good as could be without dalle 3.1 or something but idk

it's as though it hasn't been updated for DALL-E 3, still limited to 400 characters, although the API since DALL-E 2 accepted a 1000-character prompt. i'm looking forward to when BIC takes a longer prompt

[hybrid fox]

I assume these models will keep getting better, albeit asymptotical in their improvement curves

the jump from gpt 3.5-4 will surely be greater than the one from 4-4.5

[dim cradle]

well if they actually release 4.5 and its a jump like 3.5 was to 4.0 we'll be too blown away by it to even think of images... maybe haha

[true mural]

yeah, chatgpt will always try to make coherent text, which leads to very good images, but not the best you can extract from the engine. Mind you, I have been using it (dall-e 3) since, basically the beginning of the experimental branch. When I still had to teach it what humanoid robots look like, and all prompts were manual.

[true mural]

possible. "better" is hard to quantify when it comes to art.

[hybrid fox]

I wish there was a way to practice on that version, seems like an advantage for knowing how to appraoch it now

[true mural]

The closest you can get would be bing. And I don't think you are really missing much, honestly.

[hybrid fox]

True, although I'm sure there are some fairly objective parameters you could assign to good art and then test for whether the average of images created by the new version is higher in those parameters than the old one

Coming up with those metrics is way above my intellect though

[dim cradle]

y'all are really coloring outside the lines with the daily theme, i will have to get more creative

[hybrid fox]

did u create your pfp

[dim cradle]

ya, it was in a generation, supposed to be the moon with the face of Zeus lol

[hybrid fox]

#daily-theme message

This one in particular, so beautiful

[true mural]

here is an example of one of my earliest attempts to get it to understand "humanoid, but robot". Eventually it got easier.

[dim cradle]

the one by @chilly onyx reminds me of an Imperial Walker

[wintry epoch]

Kinda fun making something inspired by others anything you can think of and we all try doing it and then show each other what u think?

[dim cradle]

good use of B&W

[hybrid fox]

#daily-theme message

#daily-theme message

Also a big fan of Vanya's & Sawa sawa's here

whoops it only linked to one

[true mural]

Always, I try to stay on theme, but then add my own personal twist or "misunderstanding" of the prompt.

[hybrid fox]

I really wish they had included the prompt, im extremely curious how they made it so emotional, like les mis

[dim cradle]

i've admired their contributions also

[true mural]

Yeah Sawa is one of my favorites, for sure.

[hybrid fox]

I mean it very well could have been a victorian era painting people would be money laundering millions of dollars for lol

the fact that she probably made it in 30 mins or less is wild

[true mural]

Oh I don't know about that assumption. I sometimes take so long to even come up with an idea that I miss my window. And then it's still hours to get the four or five images I want to submit,

[hybrid fox]

True, but even still she got it in within the day, a painting like that would conventionally take weeks or months

[true mural]

I mean, true, but... it's a different medium, it's low resolution, etc. I don't really think of it as a replacement.

[hybrid fox]

Its also in the infant stages. I imagine eventually 3d printing or animatronic painters will be able to replicate AI creations like blueprints, surpassing human abilities

if its reasonable and possible within the laws of physics im sure it will be done/ or the direction we head if their is enough demand

[true mural]

That's what people say, but... I remain skeptical. For now it's an intriguing new medium that still requires a great deal of human involvment. Especially if you want to produce a larger piece.

[hybrid fox]

Imagine what leonardo davinci could have done with tech like this

[true mural]

(two images I didn't get to submit for the skyscraper challenge)

[hybrid fox]

I rlly like the left one

[true mural]

Yeah, same.

[prime violet]

Anyone know if/when outpainting for Dalle3 will be available? I just upgraded to plus thinking there was an image editing mode like Dalle2 but couldn't find it anywhere. Is it only accessible through ChatGPT or Bing?

[hybrid fox]

Did you distill it down to a prompt or is that the result of many generations of editing and prodding gpt

[true mural]

me? That was handcrafted, from beginning to end. Took a day to decide what I wanted to create, an hour to consider what style I wanted it to be in and then a few dozen attempts to hone in on the desired result.

[hybrid fox]

What style would that be called, is there a glossary/ wordbank of styles I could look at to experiment and familiarize myself?

[wintry epoch]

Idk what to make now do u have any idea just made this bc you showed angel themed picture

[true mural]

IDK, I picked every design element from my actual human memory.

[hybrid fox]

impressive

its like a unique mixture of gothic and pencil sketches but also fading watercolor

very cool

[true mural]

This was the first iteration (not giving away the gold):

a masterwork illustration of a futuristic necropolis. the got themes of this piece are accentuated by the dark color palette. scant color accentuates the work, as though spirits emanate from the towering stone buildings. a river of souls. perspective drawing. visible guidelines transition to rough sketch.

that's mispellings at all, exactly the prompt used.

And from there I iterated to draw out my vision.

[hybrid fox]

Man you guys are too talented

Wouldve never thought of smth like that

Looks almost like that rlly cool medium in the into the spiderverse movie with the renassaince vulture

[true mural]

My sibling is a master of fine arts. I had to ask him what the sketchy line things are called in unfinished perspective drawing. Back when I was trying to master an inkpunk aesthetic.

[hybrid fox]

And its called visible guidelines?

[true mural]

yes. visible guide lines are how you describe when details used during sketching are left intact. unfortunately that can muddy a piece as it's a somewhate ambiguous phrase. I also use fragments like "rectilinear details" to help with that. My full prompts probably look like poetic line noise with the occasional coherent descriptive phrase.

[hybrid fox]

makes for the best imagery in novels as well so I can understand why that works

[true mural]

Also, sometimes mispelling a word actually leads to better outputs, and you would never know that if you don't just do it by hand occasionally.

[hybrid fox]

when you say by hand wdym

what would not doing smth by hand be

[true mural]

I mean, type it in letter by letter into bing, or demand that ChatGPT only use my prompt verbatim. And then operate on the prompt iteratively. Not by hand is e.g. doing that and then asking ChatGPT "Okay, your turn, I want you to riff on my ideas, let's see what you come up with. You have full creative freedom" or similar.

Which there is nothing wrong with doing, and is a great way to learn new techniques and approaches.

[hybrid fox]

Oh Ive just been writing a prompt myself, saying depict this, and then telling it what it did wrong or right for future generations and asking it to de-emphasize or emphasize certain elements or words from past prompts

ig that might be a mix of the two idk

[true mural]

That's assisted prompting, look at the actual prompt it submitted, you should be able to see it when you click on the image.

(and again, nothing wrong with assisted prompting, just not what I personally specialize in)

[hybrid fox]

Ahh I see I didnt even know that was a thing I thought it was doing what I told it to. Im gonna experiment with telling it to only use what I say

and see how past creations change

Just got this image after riffing off your og prompt a little with a couple lines from a different project I was working on with a similar vibe

[true mural]

Nice!

[hybrid fox]

I wonder how much the art you make in ai generators could tell you about yourself

and your thinking process/state of mind

[dim cradle]

it's a mirror

[true mural]

I mean, let's be real, my art says I have a very healthy interest in cute robot girls. lol

[hybrid fox]

Like what would a therapist make of all the dark twisty things we're meticulously putting together in these models

[hybrid fox]

Oh rlly 😂 where are the cute robot girls I havent seen any from you

[wintry epoch]

This is what happens when u listening to sad music the whole day

[true mural]

search "from:vanya has:image" in the search box.

[hybrid fox]

this is awesome

roman pompeii

[hybrid fox]

Oh wow you werent kidding, well I guess you'll be embracing the future AGI takeover

😂

As long as they're cute

[true mural]

I would never joke about robot girls.

[wintry epoch]

Here u go roman Pompeii

[dim cradle]

Was that with BIC? With ChatGPT you might ask it to advance the timeframe a bit...

[wintry epoch]

When saying robot girls are u referring to woman (18+) or girls (17-) bc when i ask chatgpt he is very specific to say that to me

[true mural]

The really hard thing, IMO, is getting it to do less. Just a splash of color, detail only where it is called for. It's genuienly difficult but in my opinion makes the overall piece just feel better. More human.

[true mural]

In prompt, women, female, etc. never girl. And the odds of getting hit by the image censor are still high, so... good luck!

[hybrid fox]

You're right my bad, this is no laughing matter

[wintry epoch]

Ye i saw that when i asked for girl the first time i meant woman but i usually refer girl with women so didnt think about it the first time

[hybrid fox]

Agreed, the more striking smth is the more it looks like obvious ai to me

[wintry epoch]

I made it with chatgpt if it was me u asked

[hybrid fox]

yep, exactly what I was imagining in your first image, well done

[true mural]

yeah, there is a difference in how humans talk and how the AI interprets things. I might want a robot catgirl. But instead I request a "cybernetic female neko robot". and offhandedly describe feline features as an afterthought. It takes a bit of practice to push into those spaces properly.

[hybrid fox]

In my head girl is always females that are around my age and then everyone significantly older would be woman or madam but chat gpt doesnt see it that way

[true mural]

if I am getting to much "human face" in the result I might further refine by specifying a mask, or even tattoos (which can be artfully used to produce texture on existing objects. And no I can't explain exactly how)

[true mural]

I'm in my forties, boys and girls are anyone from mid twenties to mid thirties in my mind. And children are anyone under 21. But that's just my perspective.

[wintry epoch]

Exactly how i think too

[dim cradle]

"Okay, I will destroy humans."

[hybrid fox]

If vanya's into that I aint judging

[true mural]

No, no, "Befriend all humans"

[wintry epoch]

What am i if im 21 then🤔

[true mural]

yup, you are a kid. (mostly teasing)

[dim cradle]

Does this count?

[true mural]

That's pretty good, has one of the most common flaws. Too much skin tone on the face. This is harder than it looks, for sure. (nice work though)

[hybrid fox]

its crazy how AI incapsulates all of the perfect human facial ratios for attractiveness so effortlessly.

Idk where that came from considering even the average of human facial training data wouldnt have given such a good metric for golden ratio faces

[dim cradle]

The Golden Ratio

[hybrid fox]

Its more complicated than that though because philtrum to chin length ratios & cheek bone/maxilla protrusion arent related to the golden ratio and are just arbitrary evolutionary artifacts

[true mural]

This is one from the ice theme challenge that I think shows a pretty coherent and consistent design. This is extremely difficult to get right, IMO.

[especially after adding additional requirements like matching a theme, and specific, non standard materials]

[hybrid fox]

How many iterations did this take

[true mural]

lol, idk... give me a sec.

[hybrid fox]

It looks very similar to some NFT art from a project I saw a while back

Probably sold for thousands 😂

[true mural]

I have 128 images saved in my gallery for that theme, so probably around 70-100 attempts and yes, some I cannot post here.

[hybrid fox]

💀

I thought dall-e doesnt let you generate anything NSFW

[true mural]

Sure, totally.

[hybrid fox]

Reminds me of that scene in blader runner where the prostitute realizes the protagonist (ryan gosling) is into hologram ai girls and not real ones

[wintry epoch]

She is very friendly

[hybrid fox]

why she rockin the grandma hairstyle

[opal shadow]

how do i generate homer simpson

[dim cradle]

she might be a grandmother, appears she may have had some cosmetic work done

[hybrid fox]

the surgeon required she destroyed one city as payment for his miracle work

[true mural]

consequence of how the system tries to make sure faces look good. which has undersirable consequences for robot characters. (or maybe that's your thing, idk)

[true mural]

Try working in jellypunk with purples, blues and pinks and watch just how vigilant that system is. (it will block innocent images)

[hybrid fox]

What I got from putting in that exact prompt 😂

[opal shadow]

do you know how to get homer simpson?

[true mural]

"cute adorable jellypunk dragon" BIC -> here are two results. "okay but... oh I get it"

[true mural]

did you try the obvious?

[opal shadow]

i did

it says its not allowed

[hybrid fox]

copyright just say be inspired by the character

[opal shadow]

I'm unable to create images of Homer Simpson directly, as he is a copyrighted character from "The Simpsons." However, I can create an original character with some general characteristics inspired by the request, like being a cheerful, cartoonish figure. Would you like to proceed with an image of an original character inspired by these characteristics?

[hybrid fox]

Mb im too naive but I have no clue why jelly punk would trip NSFW censors

im not even rlly sure what jelly punk is

[true mural]

I can't personally advise you on how to circumvent any systems intentionally placed.

[opal shadow]

bro what is this

[opal shadow]

ok

i just wanna generate homer simpson

[true mural]

a nonexistent style. Try stuff like "a masterwork image of a cute adorable jellypunk dragon." in BIC.

[hybrid fox]

do u work at openai or smth?

[hybrid fox]

BIC is bing?

[wintry epoch]

Its in the 80s she is very old

[true mural]

yes.

[hybrid fox]

say smth like "take more inspiration from the aforementioned character"

[true mural]

No I don't work for OAI, but I try to follow the server rules whenever possible. I'm not a mod, but I do like to help foster a good environment. Like if I were actually a mod, I would point out that g-rated includes violent imagery, but... meh. let a mod handle it.

[hybrid fox]

Oh lwk I didnt even read the rules, probs should do that before I get busted for an honest mistake

[true mural]

I woudn't sweat it too much. just... you know, don't just cross the line blatantly and you'll probably be fine. I just got hit with a five minute mute for trying to explain why jellypunk causes false positives.

[hybrid fox]

Lol you can DM the blocked message if u want

I just did the bing prompt you were talking abt and I dont know if I want to even think abt that 💀

[true mural]

See, it false positived one of the images... but why!?

[opal shadow]

this is not homer simpson bruh

[dim cradle]

his Bimmer though

[pulsar sundial]

so serious

[wintry epoch]

The mighty robot knight with his trusty horse STEVE

[dim cradle]

very creative, i've never imagined a robot dragon

[wintry epoch]

Tyty i do my best with the little imagination i have

[opal shadow]

if anyone can get me a prompt like this

i will be insanely happy

i cant get it to make homer simpson

or anything like this

[dim cradle]

reminds me of my black 440

[opal shadow]

bro 440is are so nice

i wanna get one i dont even have my liscence yet

[dim cradle]

Describe what you see to Bing Image Creator: "Photo of Homer Simpson in a black suit sitting down in front of a black BMW. He's having tea and sitting on a Persian rug."

[hybrid fox]

"Doh!"

[pulsar sundial]

what do you think, which of these pictures was made in dalle-3

[hybrid fox]

Anyone know why dall-e 3 doesnt have a feature where u can directly edit the image u upload with ai

[true mural]

outpainting/inpainting aren't currently available for dall-e 3. I assume they have not yet been completed/fully tested, but I don't know. It's a pretty important feature. It's possible that MS has early access, but I don't use any of their offline design products.

[pulsar sundial]

yes, the picture with Dalle 3 is the first one

[hybrid fox]

Yah hopefully it comes at somepoint, that would broaden the horizons of what I could pragmatically use this tech for ten fold

[true mural]

is the one on the right hand created or mj, it feels like mj based on color palette.

[pulsar sundial]

ahaha, the one on the right is actually Kandinsky 3.0

[true mural]

ahh, neat.

[pulsar sundial]

Yes

[opal shadow]

ty ong ur goated

[hybrid fox]

@true mural using some of your tips & tricks

[true mural]

I like it. That's really nice work.

[hybrid fox]

I told it to use exactly my prompt this time and I think it definitely helped make something more original and unexpected

[true mural]

Of course that also means the training wheels are off.

[opal shadow]

homer baba

[hybrid fox]

I say bring on the challenge

[dim cradle]

nailed it

[dim cradle]

one technique for BIC (for when you hit your GPT-4 usage cap) is to use gpt-3.5 to convert your concepts into precise 400-character art prompts

[hybrid fox]

A little tinkering and im getting even cooler results

[dim cradle]

great themes

[pulsar sundial]

what about be careful?

[wintry epoch]

U win

[glossy scroll]

[dim cradle]

There seems to be a lack of reference material in its training data for a nearly depleted hourglass.

that's an example of a concept i want to refine, and i have many generations i've iterated over, but one difficulty is specifying the fine-grained (no pun intended) variation on the hourglass--it's essential to portray the dread and anticipation... the model says it struggles to convey emotions associated with nearing completion 🙂

[glossy scroll]

Try saying 'particle' instead of grain

Little sand particles

If you share the prompt, I could give it a try.

See what comes up.

I wouldn't be using Dall-E though, so it may differ. But I'll give it a shot and share the refined prompt with ya.

[dim cradle]

I would like to perfect a 400-character prompt for the concept. I plan to optimize every character as I expand. As a use case, I'll paste the one I used to create the base above, although the "surreal" parameter is optional:

Digital, surreal painting: a towering, nearly finished hourglass looms over a sinister cult's eerie ritual. Enveloped in darkness, convey their unsettling worship with fervent dread, an eerie ambiance, and an air of foreboding uncertainty. Leave viewers on the brink of the unknown.

For other variations to get me started, I specified some darker terms, and you know how BIC can be, so just a heads-up. That's where I'm going with it, but I'm focusing on the language to get the hourglass envisioned properly for now.

Sample copy narrative for inspiration:

"In the ancient, cryptic chamber, the cult of the millennia-old hourglass gathered with bated breath, their forebears' prophecy echoing in their minds. The colossal, nearly depleted hourglass, a relic of forgotten time, cast spectral shadows that danced ominously. For countless generations, they had passed down the belief that when the last grain fell, an ancient prophecy would finally be fulfilled. As the sands dwindled, their anticipation and dread reached a fevered pitch, for they believed that an unimaginable destiny, concealed for ages, would soon be unveiled, forever altering the course of their mysterious cult and the world beyond."

[glossy scroll]

Alr, brb. I'm gonna see what I can come up with here...🛠️

[dim cradle]

I've tried a number of ways to express the nearly depleted hourglass part, that's the struggle.

many thanks

[dim cradle]

awesome, detailed dioramas are fun

[pulsar sundial]

agree

[glossy scroll]

I'm getting the same results as you are. It's not registering my command for a completely depleted hourglass. You might want to ask Ac3d. He can probably do a better job at helping you than I can with this sort of thing.

[dim cradle]

tiny houses, cross-sections, etc.

[glossy scroll]

It may be that some depiction images have a "pre-set" default as to how they should look with Dall-E and that may be the reason we can't get it down to specifics.

But I'm not entirely sure.

It is strange though because I specifically asked for a depleted hourglass as a test and it gave me a full one.

[dim cradle]

yeah, thanks for trying, the nuance is the challenge, and there's more to add, so I'm trying to figure out how many characters I have to work with after I arrive at that detail consistently.

i asked the model, said it probably didn't see enough images of an hourglass in that state, "Additionally, DALL-E's architecture and training process may not prioritize fine-grained details or nuanced variations, making it challenging to depict the subtle intricacies of a nearly depleted hourglass effectively."

[glossy scroll]

Oh ok, that says it then.

So it knows that it may not be fully trained in intricate particle variations.

Which makes perfect sense.

But I remember adding a gif into ChatGPT and I remember it being able to detect the contents of that gif. If that's true, then it also means that it can detect what a gif hourglass would look like showing it's complete depletion. I would try finding a hourglass gif that does that and asking it copy the last moment of the gif into a recreation for Dall-E to reproduce.

[dim cradle]

interesting idea

[glossy scroll]

Just a hypothesis
But it may just do the trick.

[dim cradle]

sigh tech. I just want to ask ChatGPT to imagine the scene after the last grain has fallen and visualize 🙂 Either they're going to be sorely disappointed or we might see some cool monsters.

[dim cradle]

it's worth a try, it's a little project lol

[glossy scroll]

Pepe might be hiding in the upper chamber of the hourglass, finally free

[wintry epoch]

This is the best i can do

[glossy scroll]

That's far better than what I got

[dim cradle]

That's close, and I was getting that far, but clearly there ought to be more grains at the bottom

i mean, in a few variations, i mean, i have generated two-dozen at least

[glossy scroll]

MJ does a lot better job at this

If it's any consolation

[pulsar sundial]

How do you like this seller?

[dim cradle]

if you observe any patterns or concise phrases to achieve that, please let me know. looking for the condensed language DALL-E understands.

[pulsar sundial]

Even in the winter he worked at the cash register, and in the summer he burned out...

[glossy scroll]

Homeless pepe

[dim cradle]

Stressed pepe

Too many entitled customers

I need to consider some new styles. change is hard.

[glossy scroll]

Then pepe goes to udemy and learns a new skill and lives happily ever after

[glossy scroll]

Try oil painting. That's always a showstopper

[dim cradle]

the usage cap hurts

that is one of my favorites

[pulsar sundial]

Pepe became a businessman and lived happily ever after

[glossy scroll]

He must be selling top hats

[pulsar sundial]

haah, of course

[glossy scroll]

Try making up new styles. That usually works. Like say "oilpunk" for a punk to represent oil paintings.

And have ChatGPT have new interpretations to what you mean for new styles.

[dim cradle]

intriguing.

[glossy scroll]

Yeah, and also, get an old prompt of a pic that you did, and ask ChatGPT to condense that prompt into just a few words. And then use that as the prompt and see what different results you get.

[dim cradle]

The fun thing with "surreal" is you never know what you're gonna get, unrefined prompt: "Oil painting. Surreal. Frog. Snow angel."

[glossy scroll]

Lol

That is surreal indeed

Almost like a dream I had

[pulsar sundial]

I decided to check what would happen if I asked the GPT chat to come up with a new style, and he came up with “Geometric Fantasy”

[hybrid fox]

do we own our ai art

is it protected by copyright

[dim cradle]

that sounds like a good technique

[glossy scroll]

It's worked really well for me in the past.

[glossy scroll]

Yes you do, as long as it doesn't share the likeness of a copyrighted work.

[hybrid fox]

this feels like something out of an over the garden wall christmas special

[glossy scroll]

And owning and selling are also two different things.

Like you can own a batman pic and show it off, you just can't sell it as a batman pic for money.

Although people sell them anyway.

[dim cradle]

not bad, by virtue of its background knowledge, it can "imagine" some fascinating convergences and fusions

[pulsar sundial]

That's for sure

[glossy scroll]

So yes, the short answer is always yes, because even if you do sell it, the legal liability for selling a copyrighted material is on you, not on OpenAI

[proud raptor]

in shire land, cute dog, walking the ground way

[dim cradle]

Surrealism is what got me interested in art, specifically Dali, long before DALL-E. AI is perfect for it.

[hybrid fox]

So if our ai art is original we can sell it

thats dope af

[glossy scroll]

Yes, that you can do no problem.

[hybrid fox]

what abt parody cant you parody copyrighted work and sell it for profit

like if I did batman in homer simpson style with a different logo

thats fair use right

[dim cradle]

but you can't copyright it yourself, either, a judge ruled

[glossy scroll]

You can, but OpenAI fights against it by not allowing you to reproduce the likeness of things.

[hybrid fox]

No comprendo why wouldnt we be able to copyright our original work, isnt copyright auto given to u even if u dont ask for it?

in the US atleast

[hybrid fox]

well it doesnt do a very good job lol

[glossy scroll]

Because it's actually illegal to sell parody stuff. And they're trying to protect you.

[dim cradle]

Google Théâtre D'opéra Spatial

[hybrid fox]

then how is south park not on law suits against disney for selling their parodies as entertainment?

[glossy scroll]

I think because they have a subcontract with them.

Known as distributors.

Because Disney can sell in high volume, they give a subcontract to Disney.

[hybrid fox]

Théâtre D'opéra Spatial overwhelmingly fits the bill for copyright protection like its not even funny how clearly it should be copyright protected based on all he did to the image

thats wild

that they ruled against it

[dim cradle]

You can try, but judges are ruling it “lacks human authorship” and copyright law “excludes works produced by non-humans.”

[hybrid fox]

thats a horrible ruling, I would take that all the way to the supreme court if I had to

I bet the supreme court would rule correctly on that

[dim cradle]

it's a contemporary issue to keep an eye on for sure

[hybrid fox]

btw Théâtre D'opéra Spatial is so dope

I wonder what his prompt was

[glossy scroll]

I honestly wouldn't mind making my own superhero line just for merchandising

[dim cradle]

was this in Dalle or Bing? i didnt think it would do the Batman

[glossy scroll]

It shouldn't

But it somehow does

[dim cradle]

it's too bad. in the early days of dalle they must have had some restrictions off still because i remember it making some Batman costumes for some other people on reddit

[dim cradle]

maybe it'll inspire your own creation

[hybrid fox]

hmm this website on " up to date allthingsai" is saying it should be currently backed by cc if original and creative

[hybrid fox]

Definitely, it seems like he took heavy inspiration from that scene in revenge of the sith where they are in the opera house with the bubble window

[dim cradle]

haha good call

[dim cradle]

i'd need to do some more research, but that sounds positive

have you ever heard the story of Darth Plaguies the Wise...

[hybrid fox]

idk ive heard that name before

isnt that the homie who can bring back from the dead

or smth

[dim cradle]

yes its a line from that scene

[glossy scroll]

I think it's because the internet is so saturated with spiderman and batman pop culture that ChatGPT's and Dall-E's database automatically picks up its connection if you mention anything related to the character or genre.

[dim cradle]

i swear these images are sometimes optical illusions and appear to move lol

probably not exact i have not seen Revenge of Sith in some years. great movie though imo

yes probably pythagoras. batman and superman should be public domain really

[glossy scroll]

Yeah, they should be...But oof that moola baby!

[pulsar sundial]

Bing

[dim cradle]

oh ok

I should make some cool Batman costumes now that I think of it haha

mad max batman would be cool maybe

[hybrid fox]

Batman, spiderman, and superman will be public domain soon

copyright should be timing out in a decade or so

[dim cradle]

Batman and Superman I think have like 25 years on Spidey

[hybrid fox]

oh wow rip

[dim cradle]

superman, batman, wonder woman all should be soon though i would think. they are the cornerstones of all super heroes. and robin

[hybrid fox]

Its so funny that they keep extending the copyright length everytime mickey mouse is about to become public domain

[glossy scroll]

That's never gonna happen

[hybrid fox]

copyright office is in bed with disney

[dim cradle]

yes warner brothers and batman are happy to see those decisions too im sur ehaha

[hybrid fox]

y

[glossy scroll]

Because they are owned by the company, not the artists.

[hybrid fox]

yah but u dont get protection on creative property forever just bc someone owns it lol, u have like 90 years or smth before it becomes public domain

[dim cradle]

yeah I mean Batman may as well be the mascot for WB more than Bugs for the last 30 years. hes probably bringing in 2 billion in merch alone haha. same with spidey

I mean, what are the rules on this? If BIC can make it?

[hybrid fox]

nolan batman trilogy will always be peak superhero fr

[dim cradle]

i wonder if that new google image gen lets you make copyright stuffs

[hybrid fox]

bard?

brutal

[dim cradle]

damn i got a time out for saying the name of the google image maker lol

[glossy scroll]

Yes you do get protection for it just because someone owns it. Companies don't work as individual people. Something can't be public domain if the company still owns the license to that product.

[dim cradle]

time out lol

wonder if saying midjourney will bring out the minute ban too 🤔

[hybrid fox]

thats not what googles sayin

[glossy scroll]

I stand corrected! That's news to me. And how strange!!!

[hybrid fox]

Copyright guards any original creative piece of work for the lifetime of the author + 70 years

after that anyone and everyone in the country thats true for can use it

[dim cradle]

although that may get push back again who knows

some new lawsuit

[hybrid fox]

yah like I said basically everytime mickey mouse is within a couple months of turning public domain it gets pushed back mysteriously LOL

[dim cradle]

but i read before also then would be batman/bruce wayne as appear in detective comics or wherever he first appeared, but lots of things were added to the lore over years, so even like the bat cave would be off limit for x-more years, this character for 10 years, etc

[hybrid fox]

exactly

every creative piece of work gets its own copyright

and u get it without asking for it

[glossy scroll]

So it's not going to be public domain, lol

[hybrid fox]

as long as they dont push it back again it will be in bits and pieces

[glossy scroll]

I don't think it can get pushed back actually now that you mentioned it

[hybrid fox]

look at Mary Shelley's frankenstein for example, thats public domain now and tons of stuff uses the lore

I forget when it became public domain

it wasnt super long ago

actually nvm it entered it in like the 1930s LOL

[glossy scroll]

I don't think I can mentally handle the world suddenly making batman and superman shows and stuff at 2035

I think I've just about had it with them even right now

Talk about brainwashing

[dim cradle]

that' conjures some scenes to visualize

[hybrid fox]

lmfao imagine 2035 we get like 90 new batman shows

[hybrid fox]

That book is such an amazing piece of literature

I just love it

[glossy scroll]

You laugh now. Your nightmare will begin in 2035

[hybrid fox]

the characters are so fleshed out and you really feel for all of them/ understand why they make the choices they do

its way well done, doesnt get enough credit bc its so old

and out of the common discourse

[hybrid fox]

On the brightside, the extremely famous movie Metropolis from 1927 entered the public domain this year and there arent a billion remakes yet

I havent heard of one

so mb production cost will keep a lot of people out

[glossy scroll]

Oh man. I actually have to care about newer movie stuff. This is going to be a hard next few decades.

[hybrid fox]

wdym

y do u have to care

[glossy scroll]

Because of my kids

Future kids

[hybrid fox]

Oh to like teach em the good movies

and show em

I see

[glossy scroll]

Lol, yeah exactly

[hybrid fox]

Ive watched and rated over 750 movies so im set in that department

one of my favorite hobbies

[dim cradle]

perhaps because it's already inspired a number of movies exploring similar themes (Blade Runner, Dark City, Brazil, etc.)

[hybrid fox]

True, metropolis quite literally created the sci fi/dystopian genres and is responsible for 1984, ghost in the shell, OG blade runner etc

as well as basically shaping the course of all the future sci fi mediums

its quite the influential film

[glossy scroll]

I've never even heard of it

Lol

First time

Superman's city

That's all I know of it

[hybrid fox]

I personally prefer 1984 to metropolis, but 1984 doesnt exist without it

[dim cradle]

I don't even know -- that's the fun of surreal, abstract....

[glossy scroll]

That's a cool pic. I'd live on Frankensteins head

Those are houses right?

Or is that rolls of string?

[hybrid fox]

all he wanted was to find love and acceptance

its so sad

[dim cradle]

i think they might be surgical tools lol

[hybrid fox]

In the book frankenstein is the doctor and the monster is just called the monster

but the monster is actually the good guy lol

[glossy scroll]

Ohhh hmmmm .... I'd still live there

[dim cradle]

haha

[hybrid fox]

yah they look dope, what art style did you tell it

[dim cradle]

1984, liked the book better--memorable final page--no spoilers, of course

[glossy scroll]

I saw the movie with Robert DeNiro

It was okay

[hybrid fox]

Oh I never watched the movie, but the book is my favorite work of fiction of all time

[dim cradle]

I used a simple prompt, using surreal and stuff so bing would surprise me: Oil painting. Surreal. Abstract. Knife-edge effect. Dr. Frankenstein's Monster comes to life.

[hybrid fox]

atleast as far as books go

idk abt movies

[glossy scroll]

Lol. You can get funny just saying random words like that.

Knife-edge, head, yogurt, jobs, Cotten candy, Dr. Frankenstein. Monster comes to life.

[hybrid fox]

I thought there was no way they could meet the expectations they had built but yah they did

and I was left shocked, thinking abt it for weeks

brave new world and 1984 are both highly applicable to today

[dim cradle]

• A Clockwork Orange & Fahrenheit 451

[hybrid fox]

A clockwork orange 100% also eyes wide shut

fahrenheit 451 is a chronically misrepresented book

basically no one understands its point, and its not the deep meaning everyone leads it on as,

the author intended the book to be a dis on television thinking it would serve as a distraction that would be the death of literature and books

lmfao

this was back when TV was first becoming popular

[dim cradle]

it's contemplative--consume 1000s of movies and books, 100s of plays and works, etc., the natural progression is a synthesis that compels your own unique creations. AI is great for that because I can't paint.

[glossy scroll]

You can't paint?

[dim cradle]

i can't draw stick figures

[glossy scroll]

Painting is like the most easiest thing

[glossy scroll]

Lol..uhhhhh....I refuse to believe that

[hybrid fox]

painting and drawing were always meant to be an outlet synthesizing our human experience but the limitations made it extremely low bandwith,

AI just increases human imaginative bandwith to a real life medium in an unprecedented way and im way here for it. The more efficient our output can be the better

rn 10 fingers and neuron speed limits us

hence nueralink

[dim cradle]

i'd get half-finished and then move onto a better idea

[glossy scroll]

How do you paint your house?

[hybrid fox]

call a painter

💀

[glossy scroll]

Heh

No but seriously. You have to paint

There is no option for not painting

[hybrid fox]

ig ill call bob ross

[glossy scroll]

I've met Bob Ross

Him and I painted together

No jk

We talked for a bit though

[hybrid fox]

thats dope

whered u meet him

[glossy scroll]

I complimented on his hair. Said that I've always wanted a bust of his head to put in my front lawn.

[hybrid fox]

happy trees fr

the trees would be happier if he was in ur lawn

[glossy scroll]

Lol

I have a lot of things on my lawn

Like gnomes

Haha

[hybrid fox]

bruh I just got timed out for a minute for posting a bob ross gif

💀

[glossy scroll]

Yeah no gifs unfortunately

[hybrid fox]

why dont they just make it a no gif channel instead of timing out for it

[glossy scroll]

I would have been posting all kinds of gifs

[hybrid fox]

I have like 500 gifs favorited

probs more

[glossy scroll]

I only have a few 😦

[hybrid fox]

kurt angle 1000 yard stare my favorite rn

[glossy scroll]

I gotta look that up now

That's a scary one

[hybrid fox]

he be lookin intense

[glossy scroll]

Imagine you woke up and saw that guy in front of you just like that

I'd scream, ngl

[hybrid fox]

🙈

[hybrid fox]

lmfao

real

this dude keeps popping up randomly all over social media tho and its so funny

[glossy scroll]

Kind of sore on the eyes

I'm gonna write so we can get the chat moving

So I don't have to look

At that

There

It's moving slowly

Ok it's almost gone

[hybrid fox]

lmfao

[glossy scroll]

[hybrid fox]

kurt angle living rent free

in ur head

[glossy scroll]

No, my rent is too expensive to have people like him in there

[hybrid fox]

did u see this earlier

[glossy scroll]

No

But it is cool

[hybrid fox]

which is scarier rainbow demon or kurt angle

[glossy scroll]

Scarier?

Meh that's not bad. Looks like an egg to me

Dr. Egghead

[hybrid fox]

I made this one yesterday

bro is not a happy camper

[glossy scroll]

Not bad

[hybrid fox]

rip riden

[glossy scroll]

Oh, spam

Probably got 1 strike too

[glossy scroll]

That's a cool one

[pulsar sundial]

and what was that

[glossy scroll]

You can only post 5 images max at a time Riden

Not more

You got automuted by the discord bot

[pulsar sundial]

damn, I spent the whole day there pepes, 5 images are not enough

[hybrid fox]

where

[pulsar sundial]

What is where

[glossy scroll]

Why is what?

[pulsar sundial]

Well, he said where, I asked what where

[glossy scroll]

Who did?

When?

[pulsar sundial]

how difficult it is when you’re from Russia, you have to translate everything

[hybrid fox]

oh wow

this turned out better than I expected

[pulsar sundial]

Beautiful

[hybrid fox]

tweaked it a little

not sure if this is better

tbh

happy accident

[pulsar sundial]

the picture painted itself

[hybrid fox]

pepe lol

[pulsar sundial]

why not

[hybrid fox]

pepe is goated

[hybrid fox]

These are dope, howd u get it to use nike

[hybrid fox]

🐐

[fading spoke]

what! the! hell

[wispy storm]

Nightmare fuel

🥲

[humble sonnet]

hi that is absolutely horrifying, ill take 20 please

[pulsar sundial]

I just put the Nike brand in the prompt

[cosmic gate]

#1155772063596953642

[pulsar sundial]

what do you want to take?

[naive mulch]

Why won't dall e generate stuff that's has "laying down"

[pulsar sundial]

how to understand "laying down"? can you post an example

[naive mulch]

Like laying down on a bed or laying down in general it won't generate that

[pulsar sundial]

throw off what you have

Now I'll try to generate something like that too

[naive mulch]

The image got deleted by mod?

[pulsar sundial]

Idk, probably

[naive mulch]

I got in dm it was deleted by mod

[pulsar sundial]

here they lie

[naive mulch]

Maybe I used the wrong type of lie?

Like "lie" "laying" "lying"

[pulsar sundial]

Maybe

[naive mulch]

Noped used "lie"
And "unsafe image content detected"

[pulsar sundial]

I’m just a translator, I translate everything, requests also go through him, so the way he translated it happened

[naive mulch]

What exactly did you put in

[pulsar sundial]

boy and cartoon character lie on autumn leaves, 8k quality, 3d render

[naive mulch]

I used
"Asriel dreemur from undertale lie in bed, 8k quality"
Unsafe image detected

And if I make to many failed prompt I could be permanently banned from using dall e

[wispy storm]

Ariel dreemur is from a video game. Often it will trigger the security for protected ip

[naive mulch]

Is that why?
I can't use characters from games

[wispy storm]

It is a common reason, yes

[naive mulch]

Good to know

Thank you

[wispy storm]

Dalle from bing have different tos 👀

[naive mulch]

I have more questions but I feel like I won't get anywhere them so I wont

[rigid bough]

go ahead, I have time

[glossy scroll]

robert is great at answering even the most toughest question. If you were to put answering questions as a condition for saving your life, robert would save it 10x over. So use this chance while you can

[final compass]

Is there a roadmap or something when next bigger update for dalle is going to come? Maybe fixing the tall/portrait image format finally? 😄

[wispy storm]

Let's wait and see #announcements 👀

[late blade]

I hope so, let's hope, seems there is a huge chunk of feet data that is missing. Hope it's included in the next model upgrade. 🐾 🐾 🐾 🐾 🐾 🐾

[final compass]

Yeah, it's almost impossible to get full-body portraits or tall images that aren't just flipped landscape format images.

At somepoint when i tried to describe shoes or feet, the character sometimes just ended up holding the shoe in his/her hand, which was funny.

[wispy storm]

Have you checked #1021130377026351105

[final compass]

Once in a blue moon i get a generation id and it works for a while, but no matter what words i use there seems to be no guarantees and the whole process just becomes frustrating, since the images fail more than 50% of the time and since mobile is vertical images, it's a pretty big problem in that sense.

[late blade]

Yes, I've been in #1021130377026351105 still it's very inconsistent

[wispy storm]

Also #1019652163640762428 can help

[late blade]

good, I will check there

[final compass]

https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1160172158090219550

Please go upvote that or something, i think i have seen multiple reports of that in there, but not sure if they simply 'expire' over time.

[late blade]

anyway, I just hope the next topic takes me away from fairies. I've been doing too many of those in the past days

[final compass]

Haha, i am often stuck with one theme at a time as well.

[late blade]

but, have you made your ramen fairy today? 😜

[true mural]

that was so good

[late blade]

I seriously meant it, at some point wanted to do toilet paper roll art with the concept

[naive mulch]

Sorry for the late response didn't know why discord notifications didn't show up but

Question is
Like I asked dall e to make something and it didn't said image was unsafe so I tried it again and again with the same prompt and it Finally generated an image but after I ask it to make another it said unsafe images again why

[rigid bough]

DALL-E will create a prompt to generate an image, if the subject matter is a grey area it may refuse to generate the image. Are you able to share your prompt?

[chilly onyx]

Yeah I’m done. Was going to respond to yours with this in defeat 🤣

But, no need, new theme!

[shut niche]

I don't think it's "broken" per se, but more so the fact that you requested a portrait.
If I want a widescreen portrait I lead with, "In 1792x1024 resolution, create a portrait of..." or something along those lines. Occasionally it falters, and it makes a 1024x1792 portrait, but that seems to be rare. Likewise, occasionally it'll make a widescreen that's returned "sideways," as 1024x1792, with the image correctly in widescreen, but turned 90⁰. I think it's normally a misunderstanding of intent when the prompt has those multiple conflicting terms in the same prompt. TBH, I rarely use the term portrait. I prefer close, or close-up, or macro style close-up, depending on the distance I want (or other similar terms).
You can also control distance with objects. I made an angel earlier that was depicted too close-up (face only). I said, "can you give her wings 🪽," which automatically backed the camera up to fit the addition of wings.
I hope that helps.

[late blade]

I've tried varation also, no better results

[soft prairie]

Dall-E + Magnific AI upscaler + Generative Fill for Outpainting and details and it Rocks!

[glossy scroll]

That looks awesome 👍

[soft prairie]

thx bro. it's amazing how upscalers are getting good... and if you know how to give some extra love in photoshop with "old school" retouching and fx , damn it's really really amazing

that's the original one directly from dall-e

[late blade]

damn it, already fell into the fairies concept....

[chilly onyx]

😅

[glossy scroll]

Oh wow, that is awesome. I gotta start learnin how to use em.

[late blade]

is it possible to do upscaling with the API?

[rigid bough]

no, but if you're on a Mac you can use DiffusionBee to upscale

[late blade]

Yeah, that is also another way. I usually do it with photoshop tho. Was just wondering if it was possible with the API

[shut niche]

Show me the prompt! LOL j/k
I have had it glitch too, where it seems totally unprovoked. But I'm just saying, most of the time, when I read deep into the prompt, I can find the cause of the "misunderstanding," for why it chose to deliver a 90⁰ image.

[late blade]

lol, you want to read a text file of around 5MB with just trying to do that?

I think I can work with a new concept for now, but it's gonna make me very hungry...

[glossy scroll]

Can you guys try my sample art generator?
I'm trying to tweak and refine it to make it better, and I need some testers.
Here is the link: https://chat.openai.com/g/g-NhtqOfIt9-apex-visionary

If you guys could just show me the results you get and put them here, that would help me.

[late blade]

I will try it later, atm figuring out how to not eat chocolate

[glossy scroll]

Epic chocos!

[late blade]

if I have something more complex I'll try it out again

[glossy scroll]

I tried competing

Lol

That's the best I could do

[late blade]

that one looks nice, you can sell it at wallmart

[glossy scroll]

Hehe

[late blade]

lol

[shut niche]

Input:"In 1792x1024, create an ornate hand crafted box of chocolates, where the chocolates inside are seasonally inspired by Rudolph the red nosed reindeer."

[glossy scroll]

Epic

[shut niche]

LOL, that was just my input into Apex Visionary, so Pythagoras could know the input that got the output image.
But those are some bang'n chocolates! I'd keep the box for sure!

Was that in Apex Visionary, or just Dalle, or your own GPT?

Look at this fail, bahahahaa.
ChatGPT: "I'll show you how to make a box!"
Me: "Um, but how are you supposed to close that box? And will the antlers even fit?"
But the chocolates look good I guess...🤣

[humble sonnet]

wait they added usage limits to dalle?

[dim cradle]

The architectural challenges of a building shaped like a reindeer

[glossy scroll]

Oh you used AV for this? Looks really good.

[gray surge]

What does AV mean? :x

[glossy scroll]

Apex Visionary

[gray surge]

ah - thanks! 😄

[glossy scroll]

This

Use it @gray surge and show me your images

Would love to see what you come up with

[gray surge]

Sure I will think for something. 😄

[dim cradle]

@late blade great reindeer car concept, love it when people blend unrelated subjects to make something totally original

[late blade]

😁

[glossy scroll]

What's BIC?

[late blade]

this was my prompt: A house resembling a reindeer with Nature as the backbone, Respecting the environment, Solar energy and light flooding through spans, Curved architecture

[dim cradle]

very nice, i've been playing with a reindeer house concept myself, so far i like yours better

[late blade]

Bing Image Creator

[glossy scroll]

O
Ty

I thought it was the lighter

Jk

[late blade]

not gonna post them myself on the daily theme because that is your idea

[glossy scroll]

Those are some amazing images, ngl

[gray surge]

What do you think about that? 😄
(I am happy our earth doesn't have a hole in the center. :P)

[dim cradle]

that's considerate but i like to see your creations so please post away

[glossy scroll]

Lol, looks epic and scary at the same time.

[late blade]

ok, I will post them, but I owe you a good idea

[glossy scroll]

Cool details though @gray surge

[dim cradle]

you and everyone here have inspired lots of creative ideas

[late blade]

those are really great, what kind of galaxy distressing event are you going for?

[dim cradle]

Colliding galaxies?

[dim cradle]

that's an extremely edible-looking reindeer

[gray surge]

The goal wasn't a distressing/colliding galaxies - the test was more how many details it can integrate and if its able to implement something, like x° - so I told that the Mars is in the foreground, while behind of it (round about a inclination of 45°) there is a peace of earth and behind of it the sun - with the universe in background

I hope it answers your question? 😇

Thats really cool! Do you want to share it in #daily-theme too? 🙈

[late blade]

I will try, so many ideas, so little time

this was my prompt: A majestic merging of stars and cosmic elegance, two galaxies resembling majestic reindeers embrace in a breathtaking celestial waltz.

[dim cradle]

excellent. In the vast stretches of cosmic time and space, that quite probably exists somewhere

[late blade]

still have a cool down going and then another one, let's see if they make the cut

[dim cradle]

sorry but it had to be done

[gray surge]

Thats good for a mueseum or a school. 👀

But I don't know if I like the red eyes. o.o

[late blade]

BIC is very permisive when it comes to copyrighted material

[sick flax]

Here's my result with Apex Visionary. My original prompt: "A small army of steampunk snow angels marching through the snow field toward the fortress. HD digital illustration, hyperphotorealistic epic fantasy. Extremely detailed, dynamic asymmetrical composition."

AV prompt (first/left): "A small army of steampunk snow angels marching through a snowy field towards a majestic fortress. These snow angels, intricately designed with steampunk aesthetics such as gears, brass fittings, and mechanical wings, move in a coordinated manner. The fortress in the distance, elegant and imposing, draws inspiration from grand architectural designs, featuring intricate details and grandiose structures. This scene is set in a vast, open snow field, enhancing the epic fantasy ambiance. The image is a high-definition digital illustration, rendered in a hyperphotorealistic style. Special attention is given to creating an extremely detailed, dynamic, and asymmetrical composition, with a keen focus on depth, lighting, and textures. The elements in the scene, including the snow angels, the fortress, and the surrounding landscape, are depicted with an exceptional level of detail, emphasizing the contrast between the mechanical and the natural.

Comp image (second/right) with my GPT: "A hyperphotorealistic, HD digital illustration of a small army of steampunk snow angels marching through a snow-covered field towards a grand fortress. Each snow angel is distinct, adorned with steampunk details like brass goggles, mechanical wings, and Victorian-era attire with gears and cogs. The snow field is textured, showing a dynamic range of footprints and snowdrifts. The fortress in the background is a mix of gothic and steampunk styles, featuring towering spires, steam vents, and rotating gears. The composition is dynamic and asymmetrical, capturing movement and depth in the scene with a focus on extreme detail and a sophisticated, epic fantasy atmosphere."

[dim cradle]

that is spot on. nicely done. i'd run.

[glossy scroll]

Woah, that is pretty good. It turned it into a big design. Is there something you think I should tweak?

[late blade]

oh my goodness, I just found the perfect concept for my next post for the daily theme, the galaxies are out

[dim cradle]

they're running from my Reindeer Walker

people so sensitive about their image gens. i said Bing is better than MJ and they ban me haha. anyway i guess thats ot i love those little robots Sawa, i want a story of them

[late blade]

hehe that can happen, just be mindful that there's a channel for other AI's if you wanna focus on comparissons or features that others offer.

[dim cradle]

yes, i mean the MJ people did that not here. everyone so sensitive

[sick flax]

I got a lot of very crisp details from AV, thought the castle and mountains looked incredible. A couple of things I noticed: 1) "asymmetrical composition" instruction not being followed (DE3 LOVES symmetry - my personal battle), 2) no foot prints on snow (my GPT has an instruction on "texture"). Don't know if these are important to what you are trying to achieve, but just my observations. Ty for letting me test-drive.

[dim cradle]

Rudolf WMD

[chilly onyx]

😆

[dim cradle]

looks like rudolf star wars thing haha

or maybe thats the big red button to make it go boom

[glossy scroll]

That is an interesting point. I will try and have it focus on compositions better, to have a more thorough idea for distinguishing between symmetry and asymmetry for the characters vs the surrounding environment. Thank you for that feedback.

[dim cradle]

pretty opulent. that reminds me, DALL-E can visualize some amazing tapestries

[pure olive]

hi all. is outpainting still available with dalle 3?

[dim cradle]

i think there's a use case for a custom gpt that specializes in visualizing tapestries

[dim cradle]

not available yet, maybe when it goes live on labs

[pure olive]

does dalle2 still work?

[dim cradle]

as far as i know yes

[pure olive]

ok sweet guess i’ll use that until 3 supports outpainting

thank you 🙂

[dim cradle]

imagine blending a milkshake in that using @shut niche 's chocolates

[late blade]

sorry i just got timed out for posting the link to labs, so yeah on labs you can find dall-e 2

[dim cradle]

Duck Donuts sells a $100 milkshake, I think we could command twice that.

[chilly onyx]

Input was: “What about a double exposed duotone image of Rudolph curled up watching late night infomercials?”. The prompt it created was “A hyper-realistic image combining two scenes in a double exposure effect. In the foreground, a detailed image of Rudolph, with his distinctive red nose, curled up in a cozy, dimly lit room, embodying a sense of solitude and contemplation. He is surrounded by soft textures, like blankets and a plush couch, under warm, ambient lighting. In the background, blending seamlessly, is a scene of a late-night infomercial on an old-fashioned TV set, glowing in the dark with exaggerated colors and sharp contrasts. The infomercial features exaggeratedly enthusiastic hosts and absurd products, creating a surreal, dreamlike atmosphere. The image should have a duotone color scheme, emphasizing the contrast between the warmth of Rudolph’s setting and the cold, artificial light of the TV.”

[dim cradle]

there is more potential for crossover than I first thought

[late blade]

add more steam, and also add victorian style to that render

[dim cradle]

that's cute

quite a few aesthetic/style variants on steam also

[shut niche]

LOL, I was just trying SawaSawa's input in a GPT. I thought it's inclusion of the epic sized robot was a nice inclusion.
"A small army of steampunk snow angels marching through the snow field toward the fortress. HD digital illustration, hyperphotorealistic epic fantasy. Extremely detailed, dynamic asymmetrical composition."

But then I asked it this for you. 😎

[late blade]

love it

[shut niche]

All I said was, "Can you make this a photo version, and add more steam, and Victorian influences?"

[wind skiff]

What is that style called / what was the prompt for #daily-theme message ?
( @late blade )

[late blade]

one sec, I have to search for it

[wind skiff]

from your message history, I'm guessing something like high fantasy chalk?

[late blade]

I want an image of crystalina, epic visual storytelling, She is a safe keeper of today's theme. A herd or reindeers kept safe and being guided to Santa's home. Dramatic immersive bold lighting and colours that enhances emotional impact. Then add a touch of peaceful, serene, innocent. a snowy winged masterpiece!

The art style is a result of using fountain pen calligraphy that depicts the strokes and then ink wash effect.

crystaline is my to go for ice fairies

I defined her ealier in another prompt

[wind skiff]

oh, you used a continuous GPT4 conversation? I was assuming it was BIC for some reason

[late blade]

yes, I mix both, when gpt4 is unavailble for me because I'm actually using gpt4 as a sweatshop, then i us BIC

[wind skiff]

I may or may not use and abuse the term "ink wash" in my prompts from now on, thanks xD

[late blade]

there, i was able to post my new concept, meet the Raindeer inspired hygine set

oh another people have used ink wash

so feel free to use. it

[wind skiff]

not fully sure why it went black and white, but first result from asking it to add an ink wash effect to a previous conversation

[late blade]

try adding colours you want

[wind skiff]

just telling it to regenerate added colors, funny how it works sometimes

it already had some anime & dark fantasy in the prompt, so it might have learned towards manga for the first

[late blade]

try adding crimson red and sterling silver ink

[late blade]

that looks really good

[chilly onyx]

These were good, although the knife and fork was a perplexing inclusion for a hygiene set 😅

[late blade]

lol

[wind skiff]

the red lines bother me a bit tbh, but I can just crop it myself I guess

[late blade]

if you use gpt4 you can ask to refine the image, with big is a hit and miss

@dim cradle #daily-theme message is really nice

[wind skiff]

to be fair with gpt4 it's oftentimes still a hit or miss
I feel like you can typically get 1.5 things right out of style, subject and composition, then pretty much roll a die for +-1 by regenerating
(unless you use an extremely common thing for one of the three)

[late blade]

a good tip to get into artistic stuff, use GPT3.5 to explore art concepts, once you like one, maybe look ona search engine for examples, and then with an idea in mind go to gpt4

[dim cradle]

tyty

ya, gpt-3.5+bic make a good toolchain when up against usage caps

[late blade]

@wind skiff this is deviation of ink washing and pen calligraphy I added to the mix. So just don't fix on the concept, you can add something different to the art style

[wind skiff]

yeah I'm testing a few variations to see how each term affects it right now
funnily enough it's generating literal pens when I ask for a fountain pen calligraphy brush stroke style

[late blade]

ya, I had that problem too

[shut niche]

Is that a hot fart or a tail?

[late blade]

try modifying it to: the strokes in the image are the effect of a calligraphy pen, or something along those lines

[wind skiff]

lol, meant to be a tail

[shut niche]

LOL j/k! 🤣

[late blade]

I just noticed....

[dim cradle]

🤨

[wind skiff]

I think I'll just stick with anime strokes instead tbh, I typically yeet this into the initial prompt and get a half descent style```

• Use vibrant, unnatural colors and exaggerated forms to ensure a sleek anime look, with clear lines and stylized features typical of anime art.
• The subject's face should be expressive.
• Include distinctive traces of anime art, such as dramatic shading.
• Use a wider range of color gradients to create a more vibrant and detailed appearance.
• Use dynamic lines, sharp angles, and a interplay of light and shadow to highlight important features.
• Use clear outlines and keep the design free of clutter.

[glossy scroll]

It didn't get the duotone aspect, but the rest is pretty good.

[dim cradle]

digging the robot reindeers y'all

the affordable Rudolf Royale

[dim cradle]

give 'im a break, he had taco bell for lunch

[chilly onyx]

Yeah, I thought it had overwritten the style with the GPTs own instructions but it is right there in the prompt it generated so might not be the GPTs fault really

As feedback I was a bit confused when I gave it my input and it immediately generated something. The description made me expect that there was going to be a bit of a back and forth before image generation for some reason

[dim cradle]

I'd share the Flatulence Monster I made awhile back, but taste and art go hand in hand

[glossy scroll]

Hmmm. I think because it's focused on the hyper-realistic aspect, that it veto's other art styles.

But I'll try and tweak it and see what comes out.

[dim cradle]

You inspired this lol

Santa seems to be doing pretty well for himself

was that in the daily theme on sleigh day?

i'm afraid i missed that one

thanks for the link, i apologize, i did see that one after all, and i had already given it a star. i like how it all connects.

[wind skiff]

I feel like sometimes adding too much fluff/lore to the image tends to take away the focus from the core elements tbh

how often do you typically inspect the actual prompt gpt passes to dalle? as far as I know it should have no context outside of that final prompt

[dim cradle]

infinite variations. it's all about making those connections.

@shut niche the infrared nose 🤣

[hybrid fox]

you got a very similar result to one of my projects yesterday

[glossy scroll]

My input was: A double exposed duotone image of Rudolph curled up watching late night infomercials

[chilly onyx]

I like that one a lot 😊

[glossy scroll]

I don't want to copy and paste the output prompt in fear of spam mute

But I'll send it to you

[chilly onyx]

Going to post my own version in the daily theme shortly, I stuck it through my own GPT

[glossy scroll]

I used AV for that btw. Tweaked it to make it remember better.

[chilly onyx]

What I like about that one is that it retains a properly proportioned Rudolph, kinda. Doesn’t turn him into a cartoonish cute version

It’s in line with AV’s aesthetic in that way

[glossy scroll]

Yeah that's true, keeping the size of a real reindeer, for hyper-realistic images.

I'm a big fan of realz

[late blade]

ok new idea landed, time to search for a new one

[glossy scroll]

I tweaked it to understand symmetry vs asymmetry more fluently.

Or at least I tried to...

[tired coyote]

Is there a place to share artwork?

[glossy scroll]

#1154829862171844679

[shut niche]

You know that moment when you have an image that you love, and then you see "THE FLAW..."
Why is his nose about to explode DallE? What's wrong with a regular nose that lights up? What's so strange about that?...

[dim cradle]

ah hahaha

cherry bomb

[shut niche]

I mean, it's supposed to be a children's story and I get Rudolph who's about to lose his head 🤯 ... But I can't even do Cinderella? SMH 🤣

[dim cradle]

inadvertent depiction of imminent suffering, for shame

[glossy scroll]

Warcry: "For the gnomes!!"

[late blade]

haha

[glossy scroll]

One reindeer is a gnome too, on the right, lol

Cuz that's how we roll

[late blade]

lol

[glossy scroll]

[dim cradle]

a lot of eyecandy there, very majestic, generated a few Pegasuses recently also. that's the best antler helmet i've seen all day. i was playing around with Sauron with an antler helmet earlier.

[dim cradle]

i think it was trying to make the unihorn into antlers, i guess it mostly did that

[dim cradle]

i like the phoenix-like feathers also

[glossy scroll]

Made this with AV. Just tweaked it again. I think this was my final tweak. Because the images are consistently looking awesome now.

[hybrid fox]

Which is better yall think

[hybrid fox]

AV?

[fallow quail]

second one has a better composition for me, colors of the first are more striking. in the second the table feels secluded in two areas

[dim cradle]

observe they're watching from the picture

[hybrid fox]

Yah the second one was my first prompts generation, I tried to tweak it to how I originally imagined and I feel like gpt got it all wrong

[hybrid fox]

kinda creepy huh

[green pebble]

Thank you kindly

[green pebble]

Funny part is I think I finally figured out how to upgrade my custom gpt further to take it "even further beyond"

[glossy scroll]

https://chat.openai.com/g/g-NhtqOfIt9-apex-visionary

[hybrid fox]

this is so dope dude

[hybrid fox]

what's different about it

[glossy scroll]

focuses on hyper-realism and transforms user input in high detail

[hybrid fox]

That thing you made kinda reminds me of gru on his bike and terminator

[hybrid fox]

does it render in higher resolution?

[glossy scroll]

yeah it should.

[green pebble]

Hyper realism tends to remove some of the key details when making an illustration

Ive found instead asking for maximum detail within the style outputs better

[glossy scroll]

Yeah, it's not meant for illustrations. Because illustrations is more like 2D stuff. This is meant for 3D hyper-realistic artwork that pops! So it's not a 100% universal for every kind of art. And the reason for that is because I've found that if you made a niche image generator that focuses on one style of art, it usually gets better results, as opposed to using Bing or Dall-E.

[hybrid fox]

whoa

Man I love this stuff

Im a kid in candyshop

[pulsar sundial]

good morning, I have school in an hour

[chilly onyx]

Goodnight, I have work in eight hours 😊

Time zones are strange

[hybrid fox]

I like your pfp, I was just thinking of an idea that would have similar themes minus coffee

[hybrid fox]

what time zone u in

[chilly onyx]

GMT (it’s 00:16)

[hybrid fox]

Oh wow so you're in europe

[chilly onyx]

My pfp?

Yeah, UK

[fallow quail]

Also Europe here, here it's 01:16

[hybrid fox]

Yah did you make it

[pulsar sundial]

and it's 6:18 am for me

[hybrid fox]

r u in asia?

[pulsar sundial]

I'm from Russia

[chilly onyx]

Oh, profile pic! You know what, I really need to change that, because no, I did not make it. It’s extremely old from way before Dall~E was a thing, and I feel bad that I can’t credit the artist

[hybrid fox]

everything everywhere all at once vibes

[chilly onyx]

@glossy scroll The GPT did a good job reimagining war Santa 🙂

[pulsar sundial]

therefore, your messages have to be translated through a translator, and the answer also through a translator

[glossy scroll]

The original is always better though

[hybrid fox]

I wonder when AI is gonna start rlly making anything possible in movies

[chilly onyx]

Fixed

[glossy scroll]

Made this with AV.

[hybrid fox]

whoa this is so sick, wanna drop some sauce 👀

[hybrid fox]

christian flash

[hybrid fox]

I think I like your version better anyway

[glossy scroll]

I'd like to give you the sauce but I don't know what that means

I'm behind on my slang

[pulsar sundial]

haha, yes

[glossy scroll]

Made with AV.

[glossy scroll]

Made with AV.

Ok, I won't advertise anymore today.

Hehe

[tulip holly]

quick check : is there anyway to provide an image and enhance the image based on additional prompt

[glossy scroll]

Yes and no. There are ways, but the image won't come back exactly the same. It will be a variations of the image.

You could also try to incorporate the GPT to give you a gen_id associated with the picture, but even with that, it doesn't come back 100% the same. It always has a slight to major difference.

[true mural]

This is very cute, and the sparce use of color really makes it pop. Nice work!

[dim cradle]

The revised depiction of the Psycho Nextdoor Monster, now with a larger, more terrifying mouth and multiple tongues, is ready. This enhanced feature underscores its loud, angry nature, adding to the horror and surrealism of the creature.

[shut niche]

Not a bad first try. 🙂

[dim cradle]

I just read Sam Altman is fascinated by the killer robots depicted in The Terminator.

[glossy scroll]

@shut niche Did you use AV for that?

[shut niche]

No

[dim cradle]

now i want to depict Skeletor

[shut niche]

I just took a swing at what could get me that based on what I saw.

This was toying around with another GPT.

Dalle wants to make the same character. LOL

[glossy scroll]

That's strange because my instructions are completely original.

[dim cradle]

this reminds me of that early iOS game "Infinity Blade"

[shut niche]

This is what I gave ChatGPT:
"Create a dark medieval soldier holding a massive broad sword who is cloaked in a tattered hood and cape, and has regal armor. Give him a skull face. Place him in a misty dark valley with an uninviting sky. Use the rule of thirds to place him off to the far left side of the frame. Add some vignette to create suspense."

[glossy scroll]

Could be that I'm getting close to Dall-E's instructions, or that ChatGPT is taking from mine to help Dall-E. There would be no way of knowing.

[shut niche]

It needed a little "pizzaz" LOL

[glossy scroll]

I'm jealous now, stop it

[dim cradle]

the bosses in Infinity Blade always had gargantuan swords

[shut niche]

Brains over brawn! 😛

[dim cradle]

nice, i could see that with a purple sun also

[shut niche]

LOL 🤣 🤯

I can't look at that image it makes me laugh so hard I can't breathe!

[dim cradle]

wow. the boss has an apparent weak spot, good thing he's tall.

the last time i generated a brain that size, it had hairy spider legs

Infinity Blade meets The Terminator -- Altman-approved.

[shut niche]

🤣 🌍 🌎 ⚔️

[dim cradle]

stellar, that is indeed a gargantuan sword and infinity blade lol

[shut niche]

He's over compensating for his receding hairline.

[dim cradle]

but as they say, the pen is mightier than the sword 😉

[shut niche]

I didn't know there was a capitol letter spam blocker.
All I tried to say was, "omg, I love it!" Whoops.🤣

[tulip holly]

How to get gen id

[shut niche]

You can just ask ChatGPT for it, and it'll give it to you.

[dim cradle]

@shut niche just saw your pegasus reindeer for the first time as it made it into the hall of fame -- awesome

[shut niche]

I've got something I think you'll like, lol. Trying to fix it up now.

[shut niche]

https://chat.openai.com/g/g-C4p1sYEMN-jolly-judgement-day

[dim cradle]

you finally made your serene terminator gpt 🙂

your everyday chill killer robot

[shut niche]

Well, it was working at one point, then somehow, I lost or deleted some of the instructions, so I just re-made them. They should be better now anyway, so no loss. LOL

Try it, you should be able to keep it simple, and be like, put him in church, or whatever.

AI is always getting a bad rap, as "killer robots." I thought I'd give them some fair representation! 😜

[dim cradle]

totally agree

[dim cradle]

perfect

[dim cradle]

[shut niche]

The worst thing about this, is that I could burn all of my ChatGPT credits making silly Terminator memes! They're addictive.

[dim cradle]

Improving the image of killer robots

[dim cradle]

it's for a worthy cause though

[true mural]

Good robot.

I for one welcome our future robot overlords

[hot rain]

Working on making some character art. This is solid.

[shut niche]

https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1185096578667647006

I made a gallery for our friend. 😛

https://chat.openai.com/g/g-C4p1sYEMN-jolly-judgement-day

I'm on a "time out," so I can't even test him now. 😦 I pressed the button too many times...

[dim cradle]

trench warfare, intriguing

[late blade]

I think Dall-E woke up in a bad mood today. It's refusing to do everything I ask for

[dim cradle]

hmm, how so?

[late blade]

copyright here and there and everywhere

somehow the "takes inspiration from <insert concept here>" is not working this morning

[glossy scroll]

I honestly think that's a stupid policy. Why is the art generators responsibility to not copy likeness. It should be the users liability and own risk to legally handle it carefully.

[pulsar sundial]

hurray I'm alive after chemo

[glossy scroll]

It's always been like that.

[late blade]

yay

[late blade]

💕 🧬 💪

[dim cradle]

gotcha. fine-tuning for the forthcoming...

[late blade]

well at least I am getting schooled on derivative works and copyright law in the process

[dim cradle]

"based on" or "inspired by" have seemed more restrictive lately, incidentally.

not a scientific observation or anything

[late blade]

it would be easier if dall-e had browsing capabilities, but that's just for chatgt4

[dim cradle]

and requests to modify "only as much as required" result in zero likeness--perhaps the intent, i'm sure i wouldn't know

[glossy scroll]

I think the art supply companies should get sued for giving us the tools to draw copyrighted material. You know? It's the same logic here. Makes no sense.

[dim cradle]

i think we should all give allowances to both sides until we find the sweet spot

[glossy scroll]

Yeah, it should be user liability. Not company liability.

[pulsar sundial]

now you can generate something

[late blade]

I wish i coul ask: "has a reindeer in the art of Damien Hirst been done or would that be derivative work?" (just took a random artist)

but at least now I got my chubby reindeers

[dim cradle]

gpt-3.5 says no.... as of jan 2022

[shut niche]

And here to play everyone a happy song about content policies and copyright infringement, it's your neighborhood friend, Terminator.

[dim cradle]

there's also "fair use" to consider.

[shut niche]

Believe me, if video were already available, you'd all be hearing an epic song in a "voice that's not Arnold's voice but sounds extremely similar to Arnold voice" right now.

[hybrid fox]

Lol it means like the secret sauce so in this context the prompt you curated

I was gonna try and riff off that figure you created bc he dope

[hybrid fox]

lmfao

[late blade]

I could use that voice for my upcoming movie "Reindeer Rumble: A Holiday Adventure" "Bringing the Hoof-Down This Holiday Season!" #hall-of-fame message

[dim cradle]

that's consistent with your previous gen

[hybrid fox]

oh yah I saw you post that in this channel earlier I thought it was dope

[hybrid fox]

Yah this got it closer to what I had originally imagined

[late blade]

is that taking a super hero villain concept? or a really horror themed oriented twist?

[hybrid fox]

My original thought that sparked this was "if god sought to instill fear"

[late blade]

almighty power to torture with feat

[hybrid fox]

and then I was heavily inspired by @open trench's creation

I also had been thinking about a bioluminescence monster or virus for a while

[shut niche]

Chat input: "Create a futuristic sci-fi action hero with a sleek black suit that has red geometric laser lines. He has a hooded cloak, and a short futuristic gun."

[hybrid fox]

If tron turned into a vigilante

[dim cradle]

it's on my list to invent my own aesthetic/style, maybe give it a name

[shut niche]

This is Pythagoras's.

[hybrid fox]

this is what tron vigilante gave me

[shut niche]

I was just demonstrating that it's like the guy in the cafe. A lot of these characters are rendered the same.

[dim cradle]

digging the mask

[hybrid fox]

in the cafe?

[hybrid fox]

I kinda like this version of it better he posted earlier

[shut niche]

Make a guy in a cafe.

[hybrid fox]

this is what I got

Im not seeing the resemblance

lol

[shut niche]

#images-discussions message

That guy.

[glossy scroll]

Secret sauce: https://chat.openai.com/g/g-NhtqOfIt9-apex-visionary

[glossy scroll]

Yes, this is mine. But Ace is making them better with his own secret sauce.

I think it's a blend of my secret sauce and his secret sauce. Into a combined super sauce!

[dim cradle]

i'm looking forward to test driving AV

[hybrid fox]

Its probably got a dash of in and out sauce too

so much sauce

[glossy scroll]

It's cool

[glossy scroll]

Mmmm, sauce.

[shut niche]

I just studied the OAI Custom instructions and mimicked them. 🙂 Then added "smell the roses" and "think step by step" through a simple CoT.

[glossy scroll]

[shut niche]

Had a little fun w/ it. I'm not sure, blue or red.

[glossy scroll]

I like red

[glossy scroll]

But I just kinda went back and forth reading the copyright laws of the U.S. and OpenAI's new terms of service and policy which will be effective Jan 31st 2024. And it looks like they're giving more leniency to us, by making our rights to our own input and output less complicated. Which will help fight against authorship battles in court.

[hybrid fox]

doctor strange + iron man + batman

turned evil