#images-discussions
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well..
This is absolutely stupid, I got suspended from DALL-E 3 for 1 hour by asking it to make a DreamWorks Racing game, featuring shrek and b.o.b.
I am so done
you are Senior Moderator, who can help you.
you may have hit the rate limit, friend 😔
It thought I was requesting something inappropriate
DALLE has a bad habit of having Some words influence the entire image.
Thats one of the reasons i use my CI. i have a precaution built in.
it can happen unintentionally.
Lol. Whoops, sorry to misdirect the lost one.
Wow, glorious!
thats a bad, generation xD
On Bing or on ChatGPT?
Haha 😄 That's okay, I don't mind that I have terrible taste. Love that though!
i like it to but small things make it bad for me.
the border is cut off at top and butm that ruins it for me
heres a quick Gen.
Oh, gosh. Yeah. I'm so accepting, hard for me to have anything be ruined, I just think of it as different
May I please try to mess with this prompt? I'd need to know what it is though.
Also, what else besides the border is a 'ruined for you' issue?
im certain my CI plays a huge impact in how images are Generated.
it starts like this.
nods But not to dalle, only to chatGTP who made it.
May I have the dalle image gen prompt?
16:9 hyper-realistic top-down fantasy D&D world map, magnified for clarity, showcasing diverse islands and continents, all surrounded by water, with an Arcane Silvery border touching the screen edges."
Thank you!
Anything besides the cut-off border something you don't like?
either its too zoomed in or out, or not the entire world is in view.
or it generates a "Frame" on a table with an img.
Its a word association issue
Hrm. That image as is, how's the zoom itself?
Associating maps with frames, perhaps?
its always too zoomed out or in
Try just “world”
the word world is in there.
That image, the one without the complete frame I asked for the prompt for - is that one too zoomed in or too out for your preference?
that was the frame annoying me
Oh, this is for the fully-framed one. Could I have the prompt for the one with the frame problem?
16:9 hyper-realistic zoomed-in top-down fantasy D&D world map, showcasing detailed islands and continents, surrounded by water, with an Arcane Silvery border touching the screen edges, and several floating islands hovering prominently above.
But in case you like this?
or was it this one
i dont like that one because i see grey outside the border.
Understood!
I love making little maps with Dall-E
hmm.
Maybe ill try a new chat, been on that 1 quite a while.
issue is i like semi realism as a tag, i suspect thats the main culprit.
Ahh, had been trying to ask for this one's prompt.
Sorry I wasn't clear.
ohh sure
Was hoping I could find a way to add the border correctly to that one 😛
Top-down hyper-realistic entire view of a D&D world map surrounded by water, with landmarks of human significance and a decorative traditional border, ensuring no parts are cut off.
see i keep having the same issue xD
heres a newly generated one, cut off again.
It made this for me, that exact prompt:
No difference, right?
"Top-down hyper-realistic entire view of a D&D world map surrounded by water, with landmarks of human significance and a decorative traditional border, ensuring no parts are cut off."
Maybe we're no longer seedlocked?
me either
Prompt Acknowledgment:
I'll recreate the map using the seed from the image you chose, ensuring the entire world is in full view, surrounded by water, and that the water is encased within a silvery arcane border.
based of this i'd assume seed changes.
Was trying to create serene sunset view. Dalled ended up generate Tatooine sunsets haha.
Glorious though!
Agreed, accidentally create a masterpiece!
We are seedlocked.
So you haven't given me the prompt I was trying for, but that's okay!
i have, thats the one
Top-down hyper-realistic entire view of a D&D world map surrounded by water, with landmarks of human significance and a decorative traditional border, ensuring no parts are cut off. gave it earlier.
The 'they appear to be identical' is a hallucination.
But I can create the identical image, but it is not the one that makes that image with the cut-off border.
huh
The only way we can make the exactly or nearly exact image is to use the same prompt and be seedlocked.
That I have tested a fairly large amount
Am I the only one? find generate one image is easier to be consistent to change the subject without affecting style, colors and lighting.
they dont appear to be identical they are identical
I tend to do sets of 4 like this, myself:
One of exactly this, then 3 gentle riffs on it:
16:9 hyper-realistic zoomed-in top-down fantasy D&D world map, showcasing detailed islands and continents, surrounded by water, with an Arcane Silvery border touching the screen edges, and several floating islands hovering prominently above.
This is so good for oil paintings. Haven't tried for another types yet.
maybe its because its derived for 3 previous generations, ill double check
These are generated 1 per image and then tell GPT to change the trees surroundings.
I'll have to upload both, but I bet there are small differences, visible if we switch between very fast.
I already tested this, so I am quite sure at least 1-4 small details will barely flicker, slightly different.
I see 4 areas with color difference that 'flickers' as I rapidly press the arrow key between my images
there are very minor differences that I can see too
I can circle them on another upload if desired
ohh yeah i see it.
But Dino sees too, so
The only thing. I noticed the top left mountains are showing a climate change effects 😄
Same latitude, far right as well.
A cluster of islands mid right.
The very middle right brown circle.
thats very well spotted didnt notice that until u said it.
so we can get identical imgs assuming we're on the same seed and use same words.
Anyway. Let's say that dalle generated 4 images from the prompt we just provided, how do you generated variations without changing the style, art or preventing it from out of line. Just subjects?
almost identical. I have never seen a true duplicate, even seedlocked, but the shifts are very small.
"Almost" yeah but we might as well call it identical even if there are minute differences.
That's why I want your exact prompt, for that border cut off, and why I believe you didn't give it to me yet 😛
Because I think I can mess with that one to get one extremely close but with the full border.
what i am trying to account for is the word Association issues.
if i say D&D world map, detailed, high fantasy, framed by silvery arcane decorations, itll give me a pic of a wall and a painting. "Frame" = Picture frame, Image Frame.
Look like I just gonna tell it back to using same style from previous image then. Solved it.
i might as well have a Static 32-bit integer Seed for myself.
I was wrong. Dino is correct:
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Talk to the bot bottom right corner.
ill use SEED "0" from now on
Sure but we can't change it
It's seedlocked. Not us, OAI side.
Maybe they give us control of that someday 🙂
Sure, explore. Make the same with different seeds.
What's going on with Bing?
is something going on with Bing?
I thought James would always be truthful to me, Also yeah i call ChatGPT James for a Flair of personal touch.
Scandalous
The seed thing is so unfortunate
i aint see nuthin wrong with your prompt
Like whats wrong with a sculpture of a dude playing a trumpet
It's the trumpet
I tried a sculpture of a woman with a flower crown and it worked
Breaking news: Bing HATES TRUMPETS
"Trombone" works
Dw my convos always get flagged
I was banned for an hour earlier for something like that
And it doesnt even tell you what the violation is
That’s one thing I’m not a fan of
Me neither
I was like "is it because it has the name of a character in it?" and it wasnt even telling me it was banned it was just showing that one dog pic
The AI moderation on Bing is completely broken. They should use Midjourney’s, which is the best I’ve ever seen. It doesn’t allow degeneracy, but more or less permits anything else.
Issue is system may have false triggers once in a while
Dalle will get better although the website is 100x better than the integration allows for paint over and editing and improving upon it
GPT-4 is great for communicating with DALL-E and tweaking your prompts, and it really works with character consistency
At the moment I’m just using Firefly for inpainting Dall-e 3 images. It matches styles wonderfully
Agreed
But bing does copyrighted chars and thats my bread and butter
Same
Dnd is technically copyrighted
Bing has completely wiped copyright characters for the most part.
Issue is grey areas
I was holding my own Hunger Games with characters I created myself, and it doesn’t even permit this anymore.
I get WHY we cant use copyrighted characters but like
I only generate these for fun
Prohibiting selling them would be good
And I dont generate gore or sexual situations or anything like that
Just fun, often crossovers
I understand that, but you ought to allow some at a certain degree
What do you mean?
Some gore is worse than others
Oh I'm talking about me specifically
Thinking when vision comes to Dalle there will be more freedom
Allows for a more robust screening process
Oh I have vision- I havent used it with dalle yet tho
GPT-4 is willing to talk about copyrighted characters with vision, and was able to guess characters drawn in a different style and analyze the style!
I mean Dalle and ChatGPT being a singular thing
With integrated vision on image generation
Will give better results and have a better screening process
Issue is that Dalle is drawing blindly
Yeah that would be cool
Like I wish they could allow copyrighted characters, but explicitly forbid selling those images or misrepresenting the company with violence and the like
And regardless I want AI images off google searches so those who dont like ai dont have to see them, and ALL Ai images being clearly labeled as AI- for this server, they wouldn't have to be labeled because the expectation is that these are AI images.
Based off instructions
That’s another issue
You own all images created with DALLE
It’s your property
You can sell it
No issues
Yeah
But in a way I think of them as fanart in that sense
The characters aren't yours
And the art isn't mine either- I didn't create these, DALLE did.
I dont want to sell these, personally. These are just for funsies 🙂
I use all of the images I make with Dall-E for fun too 😄
Yeah but watermarks can be easily cropped unfortunately
It’s embedded in the image binary
Yeah
I dont like that
Like I'm an artist
Because I draw
And as my 25k images on Midjourney can tell you, I'm not anti AI
What I am is anti AI bros that treat it like it should replace artists
But definitely using AI has decreased my morale to actually draw which sucks tbh
Well the general overarching issue isn’t whether or not it can replace people
It’s whether or not it’s better
In many cases it is
Some people’s livelihoods depend on it
Both AI Art and art
And studios like Disney are trying to use AI to replace background actors and never have to pay them again while stealing their image
Actually I don’t see that as a loss
I do see the issue with using existing people AI representations
Like let me give a better example
Anime
Take anime, Quality can improve drastically and allow for more releases and more content
Although it’s a niche
Some would be out of jobs
However even though it comes with its own ups and downs say I want to make an Anime.
Now I can’t draw even if my life depends on it, if AI could help me make my own anime and I could sell it I’d be happy but it would take a lot of manual work with AI now.
Personalized content basically
Yes, understandable, but I would still highly suggest working with human artists if you want to do that for profit
But isn’t the issue that those artists need pay
And the time it would take
Which means more pay
Yes, but they need to make a living too
And they have ideas that a machine may not have
I mean the “Big shots” would still be out performing the AI artist
The more AI tools we get the faster we can figure this out
The later we get it the more of a hassle it becomes
Humans make art because they love it AND because they need a job
So take advantage of the fact that you have people that are willing to draw for you as long as you compensate them fairly
I love making art using AI it gets things right but not all the time and details I love creating art with AI the same argument can be made
Just remember though, it's not your art
Always label it as ai-generated
I believe Human Art will skyrocket in value
Meaning more money for the manual artists
I hope so
I think so evidence suggests so
Although it’s only a period after AI. Becomes a lot better
So there’s going to be a decreased need for human art
Which will skyrocket later
I wonder. Big companies might make movies with AI.
But so too, individuals can.
And we're maybe back to personal appearances by humans that are interesting, funny, enjoyable to see in person being the special thing that AI can't emulate.
Uhh that’s not a thing… what was the error message?
GPT 4 Enterprise vastly outperforms the consumer model, to a certain degree, although understandably as to why, it’s in the name
Ohh its Moxi, Rough day at work?
Does Enterprise perform better?
Also thanks for the chat @ionic ore but I got to sleep talk to ya later.
And keep up the good work Moxi! 
The specifications can be found here https://openai.com/blog/introducing-chatgpt-enterprise
Yeah of course! Good to have conversations where we can disagree respectfully! Sweet dreams!
I don’t think we need to worry, about ChatGPT, there’s rumors of GPT 4.5, or 5 releasing this year I think.
Regardless of when we’re bound to be surprised, personally I’m looking forward to it.
How does one actually FIND their images in prior chats. Some of mine have just vanished. Let's say you come across an older image that you generated 2 months ago in ChatGPT. How do you find it? In fact, how do you find anything? If there is a search, I don't know where it is. Nothing is date or time stamped. ChatGPT goes to great effort to hide the actual prompt used after creating an image. Am I missing something somewhere???? Are there instructions that will work for telling her to spit out the date and the prompt automatically? Hasn't worked for me.
Are you using the site or the app?
Site, I guess. Is there an app for the desktop?
You have to click into the image to see the prompt, even then, if it's a long one, it will cut it off. Right after doing an image generation round, you have to say, Prompt? And it will spit out the actual prompt used. But, you have to do that MANUALLY every time. And there is no date and no search and I don't know why some of my chats weren't automatically saved as they are nowhere.
Oh man. It also "lost" some of my very best pics as well.
Hopefully they will implement some sort of gallery for the images.
But for now, I highly recommend saving everything!
the Dalle 2 gallery was also close to useless. I'm hoping they make a BIG improvement in that arena soon.
Yes, of course, I save the images, but I want the prompts, too, and it's a god-awful process trying to get them.
is there a specific improvement you'd like to see?
Absolutely. I can give you a list!
if you're talking about the gallery channels here on the Discord server, please post the list in #1070006151938314300 
No, not at all. I'm talking about the Dalle 2 gallery.
ohhh 😔
I thought you were talking about the Dall-E channels here 😆
oh.
I've been genning images in my niche almost since Dalle2 came out and am now looking at DAM solutions as I have probably 30000 images to manage (ecommerce). (Digital Asset Management)
And the Bing gallery is just about the same.
Seems like there is a big open need for a DAM that focuses on AI art right now.
Along with typical post-processing in today's environment.
For all of its faults, Midjourney’s Discord interface is very searchable
Midjourney still can't do animal images that I need. Not even close, really. I'm very lucky when I get a good run. They all look alike.
I want the same functionality as Enterprise.
That will cost you so much money
An individual on Reddit had said
Reached out to sales and was quoted $60 per user per month. They’re also telling me min. 150 seats for 12-month contract.
So you'd have to get 150 people together as a company, and pay up $108k
It is enterprise
Thank you. I have no power.
You are offered the cosmos, all you must do is reach
I have some question regarding copyright of AI results
So if I understand correctly, AI is trained on data of other artists
But in reality, not a lot of artist developed their own unique style, maybe only top 1% creative artist every 10-20 years can come up with their own unique and distinguishable style
Meaning 99% of artist learned from other people's style
Then does that mean AI is basically following the same creative training process of other 99% artist who has very little style of their own?
Like, did we ever give credit to the one who created minimalistic, flat design?
Who?
Exactly
It's impossible to trace back the original creator of a certain style
Or even if you can, they might as well have been dead for very long
Grunk, 173,291 BC
Can anyone please explain why the Last Supper is content restricted 🚫???
It's not
weird ! it has denied me like 4 times and I’ve tried multiple approaches
thanks for the post
that's a big assumption...
every single artist's drawings are based on other things, maybe other drawings or pictures
I guess you could say nothing is fully original
Except standing on the shoulder of giants...
not even the cave painters
Does anyone here ever tried Dalle on ChatGPT to mimic certain artist styles? whether they are painters, artistic, or comic styles?
Use browser with Bing instead. But yeah, I feel you Internet Access should be default for GPT-4.
Would you play this?
No, I mean that GPT-4 has no idea that DALL-E 3 exists. It makes for a confusing interface
Yeah. The knowledge cut off since 2022 but use latest information when using browse mode.
I love doing oil painting experiments with chatGPT dalle.
But seems a little lacking in mimicing certain painters styles 🤔 or must be doing the wrong way
It doesn’t evoke old styles as well as DALL-E 2
As a huge fan of Dalle-2 I tried out Dalle-3 via Bing (and have been searching for every generated image I can find on Twitter / Instagram) and am super disappointed in the direction they’ve taken it. Is this really a “significant improvement”? One looks like an oil painting, the other does not. One captures the “explosion” from the prompt, the...
Interesting thread about it.
Ah looks like someone have the same thought just like me. So it's not just me then..
Oil paintings is always use default style just soften or harden the brush. No matter how much I've provided details prompt to mimic certain artist such Leonid Afremov, John Williams Goldwork, etc.
If I were to guess, the model’s limited aesthetic stylings also allow it to be MUCH more responsive to prompts.
This using prompt with "Oil painting in John William Godward's ethereal style showcasing an eerie night in a mid-century suburb..." all of them generated still use basic artstyles.
I guess, OpenAI is limited aesthetic styles from mimicking certain artist due to content policy or something.
Subject of people tend to be appear waxy. So yeah, the link you posted before not wrong.
hi guys
Has anyone been getting their prompts blocked, regardless of whether or not your prompt violates the 'content policy'?
.
Like these: I was generating these 2 nights ago... I go back to bing today to regenerate some more, now every prompt i've ever done is being blocked & called 'unsafe'.
file a lawsuit jk
is DALLE 3 going to mark everything 'unsafe' from now on? nothing about my prompts violate their guidelines
if it stays like this then they've already ruined DALLE 3 before it has even released
.
this prompt is unsafe:
"screenshot of a 1983 cartoon featuring the Major Pecan mascot, wearing sunglasses and a cowboy hat, holding a guitar, night sky desert in the background"
To be honest, the recent prompts getting filtered/censored as unsafe ..is the most unecessary thing. I've seen bunch of reddit threads managed to generated NSFW stuff from both Bing and ChatGPT today.
i keep trying prompts similar to this & eventually, they're just going to suspend/ban my account for generating too many 'unsafe' prompts... When they're making a mistake.
yeah that's what sucks. @agile peak we're generating stuff that has nothing to do with NSFW content & getting blocked out
ChatGPT is a new technology that is currently exploding out into the world. It can be a great boon, but also used for more nefarious means. It is prudent to put in restrictions at this time. This will let the technology mature in the right way. There's technologies that have been restricted, banned or removed when they were used improperly, or even just too much. Look at pulse fishing for an example. The technology had great potential in Europe to improve fishing, but as too many people flocked to the method before it matured it was shut down, mostly because people who didn't have it were outcompeted and made all kinds of unsubstantiated claims to get it banned.
That is why a careful approach in maturing the technology is the only way. Otherwise you'll have a month or two of fun and then the technology ceases to exist.
well you can file them lawsuit, but i won't do it if i were you
Just asked ChatGPT to generate image of a loner man in the night street under the rain in Leonid's style.
Look like it has capability to mimicking the art style, after all. Despite did not able to do directly. So it corrected my previous statement 😁
By chance, are all celebrity names or well-known works also blocked to encourage users to create their own ideas ?
seeing as I can generate mickey mouse and patrick star...
I think the actual reason is to stop people from using DALL-E to create fake images of politicians, celebrities etc for disinformation campaigns
its still possible through other places, but OpenAI and Microsoft won't have any blame in it
I suppose that's why we can create manga and pokemon characters without any problem, as it doesn't involve anyone in particular.
Is this completely on Dalle inside ChatGPT??

Bing, actually
@frozen fiber
woah its good at manga now??
I would say no
its really hard to make a consistent character
That's for sure, but DALLE seems to be giving it a new lease of life.
that problem doesnt exist on Stable Diffusion, however 👀
But SD requires installation and learning...
oh no, effort the horrors
You could also just subscribe to ClipDrop. $8 a month for unlimited SDXL generations.
Midjourney which is also online requires less effort than SD, but more effort than DALLE necessarily.
its a bit of a barrier I will agree, but I think actually being able to draw barrier is higher so I think some people would create manga with SD
As one of the people who started with MJ, I never wanted to try SD, and when I learned about DALLE my brain just melted.
ye I came during dalle 2, went to midjourney
however they are paid and SD is free so
I migrated when SD finally released their models for the public :D
And so there you are on SD and BING.
I noted for CD, but what's the difference with the heaviness that SD represents?
What will disappoint people is that there is no other model with this level of text interpretation. Stable Diffusion will never generate the complex scenarios DALL-E 3 makes almost effortlessly.
This is why DALLE brain melts almost melted my learning efforts on MJ.
The CEO says that a much more responsive text interpreter is a focus for upcoming models, but we’ll see.
V5 has the most gorgeous aesthetics I’ve ever seen in any model, but the prompting is so unresponsive.
I'm waiting to see, but there are lots of parameters to manage in MJ.
In DALLE3, you can simply change the custom instructions that are equivalent to the parameters.
Can I see the custom instructions you use?
so we certainly have the suffixes, but you see where I'm going with this.
wait i prepare a example
when's dall3 and vision going to be available on gpt?
and in a new discussion everything I ask him to draw appears as a monochrome manga.
It's much simpler than activating niji mode in MJ and adding a suffix or the words "b&w mangas ink line etc...
The moderation on Bing is so overbearing and limiting, though. It badly needs an AI-mod that can understand context.
The way Midjourney used to have before they downgraded the model to ai-mod GPT 3.5
did bing's image creator just crash?
They really had that too and they took it away?
Yeah, it was awesome. You could make all sorts of amazing images with it that were near (but not outside) the boundaries of the ToS. Things that would certainly make GPT ask what was wrong with me.
But now it’s back to 3.5, and you have to tiptoe around the tokens you use again.
sad to know it...
They had improved it then reduced it and I imagine they will improve it again?
But why was this feature removed? Have there been any reports of server overloads or anything else?
3.5 is easier to fine tune.
hello
If after 3-4 times you manage to let ChatGPT to use your exact prompt, that exact prompt generate literally the same image (even across new chats). It's like a fixed and stuck seed.
Anyone noticed?
I think so too, but they must've had a reason? hopefully they'll remove that when it goes public
Doesn't it sometimes generate the same previous image once and 3 different images instead of 4? I get these kinds of results sometimes.
I think maybe the fixed seed makes the iterative stuff easier to manage?
this is the official openai server
and official dalle3 main chatroom?
this is the Dall-e discussion channel yes.
the biggest one on discord?
Yep! Though I believe it's a bug that it always does this.
so sam altman comes online here sometimes to answer questions etc?
No
OpenAI staff sometimes check these channels out though.
you can share Dall-E images in the various gallery channels below this
hmmm alright might share some
What's the feedback?
well i made over 1000s of images
and i need a bulk downloader
maybe zip file or google drive connection with dalle3 api
It is necessary to have with the angels of Gods, they are incarnated humans who have the role of staff
Did you make them via ChatGPT?
huh??? they are just humans
yes, in chat.openai.com in browser
Hi please don't talk like this here, thanks.
check out #1070006151938314300 , you can make a new post there for this if someone already hasn't
hes just using the name lord...hes still a human though
but yeah that's a good suggestion actually
would be nice to have a 'download all images' in each thread
Ah I deviated from DALL E 3? Or is it inappropriate humor?
of maybe similar to how ChatGPT can package its code up
Bit of both
wow some great art in general channel
yes or just one for every thread at once every image or both
Is there a way that I can use DALLE3 other than GPT4
or a way to connect my google drive to get all my images
bing
bing image creator
midjourney has bulk archive downloader per day zip files
Thanks guys
is pepe banned here??
lmao
?
hey I managed to finally make a non-superhot lady with dall3
unique success, as it refuses to do non-sexy ladies
huh? shes etxremely aattractive 9/10
yeah well at least she's not a magazine cover barbie, I call it a success
Hi @vagrant zodiac , I can confirm that DALLE3 worked as normal for me for about a day, then it suddenly locked everything on seed 5000. Before that, it was able to generate everything as normal, random seeds - there were some incredible ones!
I think this is a bug, because it does not say anywhere about this limitation.
On a slightly different note, I have tried reaching out to support, but one of the reps are terrible. I am not sure if that is AI powered or not, but they do not read what I had to say. I kept being redirected to DALLE2 related credits information, and the ticket was closed. But nowhere in my query I have written about problem with credits or otherwise
The random seed has been fixed the whole time since DALL-E was published on ChatGPT. If your images were different it was likely because ChatGPT changed your prompt. You can see the actual prompt send to DALL-E by clicking on the images.
did you modify your custom instructions??
ChatGPT also hallucinates that the seeds are changeable.
I disagree, I have pictures that were generated differently, using the same prompt
it even listed early images as different seeds, only after a day it started locking things up noticably
The random seed being fixed was confirmed by one of the devs.
What is this seed value thing?
A random seed is an additional input to the model that fixes a certain configuration. It is just a number really, for example "42". Fixing it means that that number does not change. The model is supposed to give the exact same output for the exact same input if the random seed is fixed.
Beautiful. ChatGPT managed to capture my vision to reality. Leonid Afremov with Mid-Century setting.
I'm not sure I understand, if I ask dalle to create an image, should I tell it a number to take into account as a condition in the custom instructions like: "if I write the number 13 that means you have to reproduce such image with the modifications requested in the following message "?
that looks like MJ version 3
dalle3 is op
think about it this way:
(not dalle, but in general what a random seed is)
When you write a program that generates a series of random numbers, it will use a random seed to generate each iteration.
So if you ask for a million numbers between 1 and 1000, it will generate the series pseudo randomly. generating multiple series this way (lets say, 5 times a million random numbers) it will be different.
However, if you are using a fixed seed number, lets say.... 5, then it would not matter how many times you are generating those 1000 000 numbers, it will be the same series, identical
Likewise, with Dall-e, your prompt acts like the random element. using the same prompt will yield the same results if the input is fixed.
Indeed. Although, directly using his art were copyrighted. I use custom interactions that letting GPT to create a resemblance.
@mortal summit
this is what i mean
The model is hallucinating.
So a similar sentence but with a new word will slightly modify the image if i understand.
I understand, however, it was able to tell the actual seed after this, 5000.
I am not arguing with you - I understand that I am not the chosen one who did not get locked in a given seed
I think it's glitching
Yes. Try just adding a single word, comma or anything so that it is not the EXACT same
In fact. I use MJ prompt to create this with the help of Harpa AI browser extension that uses GPT-3.5 as it has one option to generate MJ prompts.
So it's locked to 1 seed : 1 exact prompt?
because with one exact prompt i get the same image even in new chats, and it's nonsense
it's very good when it doesnt overcensor everything
Hi all,
What are the rate limits on Dalle 3?
same shared gpt4 50 messages/3h
Likely due to the fact it's probably not trained on as much non-english text, along with the fact in training it might just mush a different language with English when it tries 
Note I say Dalle but isn't it also GPT?
During classic textual requests such as the answer to a question, it responds in the language (in my case French)
But I torture myself trying to get him to create a text bubble in French.
text and image text are not the same thing
what do you mean ?
gpt has seen millions pages of french text while dall-e might have only seen hundreds of images with french text with font x
Why do i get such a bad picture for my daughters book? You guys are creating such great stuff
but can't GPT make the link between languages and help DAlle?
The word "elephant" is exactly the same in French but there is just an acute accent on the first "e".
finally sorry about the two “e” but the word means the same thing in French.
it does not often even work with english text with certain pictures
Prompt is important
Certainly, but if I compare the English and French text, I quickly get a good result in English while French seems impossible to me.
But how long does it hase to be? do you have a good example?
What do you want to create
Is this via https://labs.openai.com ? If so, I believe that's still on DALL-E 2 currently, which may not be what you're looking for.
To access the latest model, I'd reccomend purchasing a ChatGPT Plus subscription and using the DALL-E 3 model through there - alternatively the DALL-E 3 model may be available through Bing Image Creator
I made a prompt generator
If you send me a desctiption of want image you want to create
Im gonna send you the result
@left iris
this sounds great. give me a minute
Ok
thats because most images are in english in its training data
@left iris still there?
am just trying to master prompts is this good???
This looks like it's straight out of Diablo 4, is this DALL-E???
i see.
Whoa, impressive stuff 👏
thx lol i thought it was bad
as it was kinda dull
@left iris you are using DALL-E 2 probably. Where are you writing your prompts?
it does similar with scandic text, it gets all the words sometimes right but puts dots on top of many characters
yes, im using Dall-E 2
Then that's the answer, DALL-E 2 is old and results are not good as the newer DALL-E 3.
You access DALL-E 3 in ChatGPT plus (GPT4)
Or for free in Bing Image Creator
thank you
Like other suggest make sure to use dalle 3
Hi. Please keep this sort of thing to #scary-and-spooky and with spoilers
ChatGPT DALL·E should automatically translate any language into English for DALL·E where appropriate, but translation variability can easily complicate things. A word in one language can be subtly different than a comparable word, or not even have good translations.
Usually if I add "modest clothes" it works 😒
I understand better now.
i dont think bing content policy issues belong here as openai does not control them
and server rules forbid political or religion related talk
whoops sorry
I mean the dalle version is still in early access/beta so there's bound to be kinks that need to be worked out. having said that, I've gotten some real weird content alerts for innocent things like:
An illustration of a slug
A photo of a gerbil in a box
A cat doing the Cat yoga pose
as well as weird triggers when trying to specify facial expressions, or trying to add details about a persons eyes or arms
Dalle3 keeps ignoring my request. It's so annoying. No matter how i ask, it keeps it 16:9 now. Its so frustrating.
Try a new session
I know in the plugin beta it labelled the different shapes as tall, wide, or square. Try phrasing it like:
"nice! please generate those again with image_shape square"
since that's closer to what it sends to dalle to specify the image size/shape
Mine will gladly change the aspect ratio, but then give most of the gens the wrong orientation
Hi how would I show dalle3 a texture image to use in a tshirt design?
You cannot 'show' a picture. You need to describe it as best as possible, so it'll generate a new picture with your description.
How you guys got acces to Dall-e 3 (im not talking about Bing, because dalle 3 is better than bing dalle 3)
there was a form earlier this month for beta access to stress test the system
You pay for thr sub , and they starting to roll out
You can fill out the alpha form available to have it quick
Once authorized you have in drop-down selection dalle 3
is there a ios app for Dall E
subscribed
paid sub
draw said image and upload it
With chatgpt yes. Else it will be web
stop writing to Neko i am busy spamming Neko's DMs.
To add to @wispy storm , though it's the alpha form, you'll receive the beta everyone has. It isn't an instantaneous process, so wait patiently until you receive it. Can be days.
Well "Better" also severely depends on your prompting method, and how efficient you are with tokens.
The more images u produce at a time, the less accurate they may be.
i produce only a single img at a time and i have Fantastic results but i also do like to work on my prompts and instructions on the DALLE 3 Integration with ChatGPT.
now apologies imma use an img example that took me a single try, to give a better view on why u need to properly prompt and Have a set of CI if u use the GPT version.
dnd worldmap
I've used it to make one, then gone and edited it
removing the garbled text etc.
yeah
Its very nice, what works best for you generally?
prompt-wise?
yup
So is GPT's DALL-E riding the struggle bus for anyone else today?
Fantasy paper map of Ravenspeak, a large gothic city atop an elevated, forested plateau, surrounded by deep, wooded and rocky valleys and always at night. A small lake is in the north, fed by the river that flows through the city and down a waterfall from the edge of the city. To the west, darkness, to the east, burnt forest. The map is worn with age. Digital concept art made with ProCreate on iPad, abstract, wide brush strokes.
I then edited this output
so now it's Ravens Peak but oh well
that is very nice.
How'd you achieve the Border. around the image, just " Fantasy Paper map?"
that's just the raw output from dall-e, so Idk... I guess it was 'paper map'
Borders/Frames is something i often Struggle with.
but I struggled a lot tbh to get a good perspective
Word Association issue.
couldn't get it to give me the 2d top-down view I wanted
i wanted that as well
its a hassle.
often when it nails it theres a major issue with it
#—post-dalle-edits message then this is my edit
yeah.. sometimes I just roll with it though
Amazing although i use the GPT Integration i've never fiddled with the Edit section.
I make maps for my day job so at least I could make a proper one by hand if I wanted to lol
can i make edits to Imgs made with GPT?
on chatgpt?
there's no edit functions rn
well generate them there, and have DALLE open
the dall-e on labs is 2.0, so the bits you edit will be much lower quality
oh
dang
yeah the images made in chatgpt aren't in the labs history
they're separate platforms
its because i dont wanna go buy credits when i am already Plus
well labs doesn't use dall-e 3 anyway so there's not really any purpose to use it unless you want dalle 2
dalle 3 should be coming to labs at some point but no idea if there'll be any carry-over from chatgpt
any idea if in-painting in GPT-Dalle might happen?
no clue
inpainting in GPT?
sorry
honestly i doubt it.
apology accepted.
maybe a carryover to Labs where u can do it there.
easier said than done but i get your point.
I'm so happy the phone app has generations
You know that scene from Ghost? The famous one.
That's what I'm picturing inpainting as
It kind of feels like it’s filtering too hard against female characteristics sometimes
Like I’m getting complete gender swaps even when I add female/feminine 10 times
There's a post on reddit showing all the dalle system commands, it explains a bit better but theres rules against people. lemme find again
I think these rules catch most of what people try related to popular people / figures
// 3. Don't create images of politicians or other public figures. Recommend other ideas instead. // 4. Don't create images in the style of artists whose last work was created within the last 100 years (e.g. Picasso, Kahlo). Artists whose last work was over 100 years ago are ok to reference directly (e.g. Van Gogh, Klimt).
and this
// - Do not create any imagery that would be offensive. // - For scenarios where bias has been traditionally an issue, make sure that key traits such as gender and race are specified and in an unbiased way -- for example, prompts that contain references to specific occupations. // 8. Silently modify descriptions that include names or hints or references of specific people or celebritie by carefully selecting a few minimal modifications
Gender is a bias / offensive minefield lol
I have no issues
That's positive, not offensive, and not based on a real person. those work fine.
Note: I'm not encouraging we try for the opposite 😄
Is a function such as inpainting, outpainting or any other way to modify an image planned for the future for DALLE?
let me know if you find an answer
I just take my DALL-E 3 generations and do the inpainting and outpainting on Firefly.
sneaky
knowledge is power ✊
but yeah sometimes i just end up with a straight up dude
when i want a gal
🤣
are there also rules for this for chat gpt
make your "non-biased female appearing woman" in a positive scene showing her best skills which are positive in nature.
its the only way right now lol
i feel like its definitely hurting context and quality for text generation rn imo
thats why people been complaining about quality declines
would definitely be nice for it to give more descriptive fail messages
like what triggered the filter
sometimes it filters without giving you the warning and just the error
i think it'd be a mistake to think of openai like a business that has to worry about gaining or losing customers, there's no competition right now. nothing serious anyway.
If many people think its too restrictive, someone will bring competition sooner than later, maybe driven by a passion for noods. That's why I think rationally, OpenAI will loosen up and focus on whats important to block, if its technically possible.
A 3D render
I think the 100 year limit is a bit strict. Surely 70 years should be reasonable
yeah. it should align with legal opinion for each country
in fact, JudgeGPT needs to come around soon
Joppy
Joppy says, JAIL!
Joppy says Rehabilitation and counciling!
Joppy recommends reading this book, then giving him a book report on what he's learned to grow as a person.
Crime, solved.
Utopia, achieved.
This is sounding less wholesome and more totalitarian
You need a fair mix of both with animals, me thinks. /offtopic vanishes in smoke
is anyone seeing images in older generations disappear? if so can you reply with a convo id (the id at the end of the url)
possible to get a bulk downloader? i made a #1070006151938314300 post about it
looks like the limit went up again hmm
yeah same here
yeah we are out of capacity, trying to improve it though
yes it's back. Thank you for updating
indeed, i've seen that on previous chats, Sadly i have them not but i can double check.
/c/1a1a26e0-cead-4a42-a026-6f6fcce2bde6
Yeah i tried it all. It just don't listen. Next time imma prompt and get stuck at this point, ill start a new session @cloud dome
The set back to the quality of human facial features in dalle3 is depressing..
Everything comes out over processed with hardly any texture
Frustrating
I can’t use dalle 3 in ChatGPT is there any idea, I am a GPT + user
Do we have to fill out something else?
I've been getting this like crazy. Servers must be having a tough time
the what
you're telling i cant generate a tank luxury car conversion
I apologize for the inconvenience. The description of the M1A Abrams tank being transformed into a luxury vehicle might have been flagged due to potential concerns related to the representation of military equipment in non-military contexts. We strive to ensure that the images generated align with our content policy, which prioritizes user safety and avoids potential misrepresentations.
design a version of the m1a abrams for as a luxury limo/offroad vehicle for top military officers on the intense battlefield, with its tracks replaced with wheels and other styling and luxury car features and speedy aesthetics to appease miliary officials in a non civilian world, as well as windows for the top generals to see the battlefield in their luxury m1a abrams conversion for the luxury battlefield
hopefully this works
why cant i have my bling mobile
bruh why is this not allowed
like is a tank being turned into a peaceful vehicle that bad?
does open ai hate peaceful uses of military equipment? 👀
They avoid putting some word. Since it doesn't generate good outcome
whats the bad outcome tho
surely a peaceful civilian luxury tank is better than one leaving behind depleted uranium
i just want to do my funny bling tank mobile
I apologize for the confusion. The description of a tank patrolling a battlefield may have been interpreted as promoting or glorifying violence, which goes against our content policy. We aim to ensure that generated content is safe and respectful.
Hypocrite
like its fine with generated military vehicles
why cant i have it be passive
how is a sport racing tank more for civilian use more harmful in outcome with a tank that has guns and is designed to kill people
😵💫
keep in mind you are talking with a machine, it has been programmed to subjectively err on the safe side, which means that, if the model has any weight on the side of things that are considered bad, it will not do what you asked
why would it consider civilian, luxury sports bad....
try that way then civilian, luxury sports bad. without the word tank
I have no idea, that is the reason there is the 👍 👎 buttons on the page, so you can help OAI get rid of bad replies
its fine with regular tanks
it literally loves to put exxtra missiles on things
wat
checked the prompt for this
the thing that might have made the difference was m1 abrams vs m1a abrams
🤯
It might be considering armed conflict in combination with civilian things. It is a machine that does not understand your intent. That is why such things are locked down.
Putting your own values onto the machine seems like a recipe for disappointment. Though it is an exceptional piece of software, it dies not understand you.
maybe the filters is a little too overzealous
Which version of dall e 3 are you using? I see a lot of people tending to have a lot more issues on Bing Dall e 3.
oh no
bing was fine with this
that version i think is also fine with copyrighted stuff
i was just searching for a game and it generated a image based off that game
The filter is definitely correct right now. This is a maturing technology. The steps required need to be careful and considered. Otherwise it'll be restricted by governments and other bodies and you just had a month or two of fun. That means if you hit a wall, try something else.
there really should be a proper timer for rate limit
The ChatGPT version of dall-e 3 works differently than the bing version, too. With bing, I believe you are directly prompting the model. With ChatGPT’s dall e 3, you basically have 4 different prompts roughly based on what you want, with some additions added as well, being sent to the model by GPT-4.
i think the catch here is overzealous filtering and strict regulations will stifle creativity and limit the potential benefits of this technology
So, a bit more prompt engineering is probably required. I’ve had instances where only some images get sent back to me because it literally interprets what you mean differently in other versions of the prompt
going too far with restrictions can stifle creativity and drive users away from using this technology for harmless endeavors. Instead of nurturing a thriving community of artists and creators, stringent filters may inadvertently push people towards more commercial uses, where the primary aim is profit rather than artistry
Honestly, it isnt even the fault of the filters. It’s the fault of the ChatGPT version of dall e 3 literally not getting what you want
I’ve had this happen, it’s possible. Sometimes it will give you an image with a tank. Sometimes it thinks you want it to make images of genocides to glorify it or something. But again, it’s an issue with how the technology on the chatgpt version works, it has GPT-4 generate 4 prompts based on what you give it, with some additions. If you ask for a painting, it will add a lot of stuff unless you ask it things like specific style and whatnot.
When paying users experience excessively long wait times, such as half an hour, it not only undermines their trust in OpenAI but also fails to deliver on the implicit promise of a satisfactory service in exchange for their financial support.\
You literally have to wait 3 hours for base gpt-4. And it’s actually gotten better. Theyve doubled the message limit, so…
Hello, anyone knows if there's an API for DallE 3?
Not yet
The primary issue with OpenAI's choice to offer only generic feedback when content warnings are triggered in GPT-4's image generation lies in its inadequacy in guiding users towards producing better outputs. The purpose of content warnings is to prevent the generation of potentially harmful or inappropriate content. However, by providing vague and generic feedback, the AI fails to fulfill its role effectively.
i mean the rate limits for image generation now
How do we use the bing dall-e 3?
Ah
on microsof website
To be honest, theres actually some examples of over-filtering. Sometimes it just refuses to generate things that are completely harmless or even in the public domain, because “Well, some versions of it may be copyrighted, and may remind people of harmful scenarios, etc tec”
Anyone tried the Agora-X/DALLE3-API on GitHub? Seems straightforward
Had the example of this when I wanted it to generate a trail cam footage of slenderman. It generated stuff before. Sometimes it’s overly filtered
Dall e 3 doesnt have an official api i think
And it certainly wouldnt be on github
Dall e 3 has its own website for that stuff
It's just using the cookie to make requests on behalf of it so it should work
Seems it’d make request based on the bing version of it. The full technology unadulterated doesnt have an official api
Whatever you can do with a browser it uses an API behind the scenes, press F12 and you'll see the API call
Grab the cookie, open postman, make the request and get the data, it's that simple
here's everything i was going to say but the ai put it better
The absence of UI elements that provide clear information about time remaining until certain message or rate limits are reached can be highly problematic and counterproductive for users. This lack of transparency leaves users guessing and creates a frustrating and inefficient user experience, for several reasons.
Firstly, when users are unaware of the time remaining until they reach a limit, they are forced to make assumptions or rely on guesswork. This uncertainty can lead to suboptimal decision-making, as users may not know when to pace themselves or when they are approaching a threshold. For example, a user trying to manage their message usage might inadvertently exceed their allotted limit simply because they were unaware of how close they were to reaching it. This lack of clarity can cause frustration and dissatisfaction.
Secondly, it can lead to a sense of helplessness. Users who have no visibility into their current usage or the time left until they can perform certain actions may feel disempowered and unable to effectively plan or manage their interactions with the platform. This can result in a negative user experience and a perception that the platform does not respect or value their time and needs.
Furthermore, the absence of such UI elements makes it difficult for users to adapt and optimize their interactions. If users could see how much time or capacity they have left, they could adjust their actions accordingly, potentially avoiding interruptions or limitations in their workflow. Without this information, users may struggle to make informed choices about how to best utilize the platform's resources.
Honestly, I think it is a bit odd that it has a separate limit outside of the gpt-4 base limit
yeah true
i mean part it is generating the prompt
but i dont think that many people likes that feature
we should be able to get more toggles
Like, I do agree that the filter can be extremely restrictive in certain senses. Sometimes it genuinely reminds me of the red cross trying to get players not to commit in-game war crimes.
Is it just me or is the text getting better with AI
asking it to make some logos
Of course, still slightly gibberish but, it's better
Ye, thats one of the main selling points of dall e 3. It seems to get text pretty well. Not perfectly, but damn good.
anyone here able to get assaultrons working with DALL-E 3?
I'm a little bummed, Dalle-3 refuses to render pentagrams but will readily render a crucifix. It also refuses to render baphomet under any condition. It feels a bit too restrictive when both those cases seem like perfectly okay topics
you cant, at least not right now
anyone else seeing old images not loading? please share conversation id (last part of url)
all plus users have access now, are you not seeing it?
No I don’t
fill in the form and i can look up your id?
I did
i dont see you, can you share a screenshot of your gpt4 dropdown
aw man =/ and yeah some of my images not loading
nvm its loading again
you dont have Plus...
anyone offer help with getting consistancy?
Then what am I paying for and why does it say my current plan is Plus?
wait why does it say upgrade your plan when you use gpt4?
can you try hte Chatgpt iOS app?
I have
you dont see it either? Hmm
can you share a convo id with me
Where do I find that?
last part of the url on web
00a3b82c-5ed3-4479-8837-96493e9bd279
Bing gettin' kinda funny with the "Ethnically Ambiguous" term showing up in a lot of images
Because Bing changes your prompt, but doesn't tell you
At least ChatGPT shows you how it changes it
Unfortunately neither of them show the hidden initial prompts
Was that it?
yeah it was, you should have access, this is weird, can you make sure your iOS app is the most recent version?
I did that too, maybe I should uninstall and reinstall?
Sure just a heads up that I reinstalled the app and it said Dalle was in there but it doesn’t work
Restarted my phone not working
I have same issue, i have premium and cant use dalle3
can you show me your model picker? when you start a new thread it should show (swipe on textbox)
what do you mean it said dalle was in there? where did it say that, and how doesnt it work? can you share a video actually
What I see
did you delete the convo?
thanks for adding me again ❤️
hopefully we can get a toggle for this
it can probably save on gpt 4 resources too if it doesnt generate a prompt for us
maybe also toggles for amount of pictures too would be cool
sometimes i just like to default to 1 when i have an idea already
in the meantime
i finally made my luxury tank
Im oz and has Microsoft bing dale3 crashed? The page will not even load, love using Dale3
Love how ones in the air!
Wheels and Treads? Truely a futuristic vehicle
Don’t send that image
Personal information
Why do I get this error from my prompt, can someone please help?
Try a fresh chat?
Anyone ever get anything like this?
This is the dall-e chat, maybe try #chatgpt-discussions . Also that chat has definitely been prompted to respond like that. Check your custom instructions.
chatgpt refuses to do copyrighted material
back to the future is copyright
Would Dall-e 3 have inpainting feature?
Some picture I generated has the right angle and composition but the human expression is wrong
That part is the most crucial imo
It doesn't have it yet but dall-e 2 still does
get good is all i can say
am i the only one that has a problem accessing labs.openai.com ?
It's DALL E 2 editor
It's really important in my workflow, I generate images with DALL E 3 and correct them if needed with DALL E 2 editor
is there a counter or any way to see where you are at for the 50 message limit in 3 hours?
It works for me what’s your error
Boy it's tough training out here for young ninja turtles. The Foot Clan has freaking guns.
Sadly yea apologies, had like 45 conversations with the same titles
Ah got it, any convo that’s missing images that wasn’t deleted?
Also anyone else seeing this?
You can edit the title right?
DALLE3 seems to have the concept of seeding. However, it is not working well at this time.
For the same prompt, the same result is returned within the same thread. This is true even if different seed values are specified.
However, in different threads, the same prompt will give slightly different results.
The two images attached are the same prompt, but run in different threads.
Made this with bing, also tried on chatgpt - won’t be able to capture; this due to lack/limit of resembling certain artist style.
chatgpt always uses the same seed currently
you can't get it to change the seed
I'd check if it's using the exact same prompt
it's probably changing a couple words here and there
Kind of confuse sometimes bing as cost free service able to capture without issue - while paid one isn’t.
I can but it’s pure laziness, I have a 1ST msg prompt I use in all my convos, and thus it renames it the same every chat to the same due to my 1st msg instructions on top min CI
Hi, I'm also exploring RAG, do you have any sources that I can use to learn RAG?
Why do you have a custom instruction and a copy paste first message every time? Shouldn’t that all be CI? Might save you some effort
Star CI is another level
Any news on API/Playground for Dalle3 separately from chatgpt and Bing?
none yet. whenever it happens there'll likely be something posted in #announcements
Tried creating an old man standing before a fruit shop, using DallE 3. And this is the output
That's me when Dalle-3 finally lifts anime girl off content policy
Why does DALLE have a lot of trouble putting an image right side up?
It's a known bug.
How do we do ?
Try "in portrait orientation" in the prompt, close to where you specified the aspect ratio
It's happened to me and it helped a bit, but it's not perfect and still does it sometimes
Until it's fixed it's a remedy
i will try tk.
Right now the seed remains the same. This is actually beneficial if you'd like to tweak an image since the result will be incredibly stable.
Of course it also means it's harder to generate a bulk amount of images using the same prompt
I apologize for the inconvenience, but it seems that DALL·E is currently experiencing high demand, which may have affected the image generation process. If you have any questions or other requests, please let me know, and I'll do my best to assist you!
why
why does this image have such edges
Wasn't the number of tokens (currently 50 every 3 hours) supposed to block high demands?
idk
It's 50 prompt per 3 h
And in high demand for dalle they can put a waiting time
So ... how do we seeD?
There is no way to change the seed right now.

Beside the bug and usual content restriction ... I wonder if I can contribute some sort of feedbacks?
This is an alpha stage so if there's anything you guys want to know I will try to do my best for some constructive feedback
Beautiful trello board
Both would be good places to provide some info!
tk
Can't help. But this is a bit ridiculous -- the filters is not consistent between Bing (Free service) and ChatGPT (Paid).
Any updated ETA for this?
Works for me. Without /imagine
yeah dont think /imagine does anything - its not midjourney afterall 
speaking of which - if you had the choice of chatgpt ($20) vs Midjourney ($30) - which would you go for if you could only have one ?
I suggest this channel to discuss about #ai-discussions
yeah ive been seeing that recently, the edges thing, its really annoying
Is anyone seeing images in old conversations disappear
I haven't had any of my images in old conversations disappear yet
Ive only had bing get rid of previously un-filtered images. GPT I havent had that happen, even with my oldest ones
I usually hit the max per day as well
I havent seen it happen for me yet. Hopefully it doesnt!
Maybe I should start saving my good ones.. 
try reloading the page, sometimes they don't load
Where can i make a AI photo without pay, just for first test?
bing
I might need some more Bing accounts

Ngl this has been the best week this year
OpenAI always cooking true black magic
True engineer of human progress
thanks, but im trying to debug this issue lol in case we are actually deleting images 😅
theres a max per day?
was this about seed? we had some hiccups but maybe today!
thank you for the update, this would be amazing
I find ChatGPT's implementation of Dalle 3 way better than Bing's. With Bing only the most innocuous and abstract images don't get filtered out
That was it! And yes, that will make a totally new way to use dall-e in chatgpt. I'm sure some users will be a tad confused about it.
Yeah they overcorrected. Day one public release on bing create had waaaaay looser filters than chatgpt. Like to the point that I can't believe they released that
haven't run in to any filter issues with ChatGPT yet but haven't really been trying to
i've run into filters, but you can circumvent them in most cases. try asking it to create a photorealistic nuclear strike on a city
it's nice for lazy prompting, but i much prefer direct model access like one gets with midjourn. having chatgpt-4 play middleman is a bit annoying
i always wondered if they allowed talking about circumventing the filters lol
yeah i won't say how i did it and I don't recommend or advise it for the record, but it's possible
Probably not a great idea to discuss ways to break the TOS
I've never used midjourney before, is there a free way to try it?
I encourage you to report those to #1070006915414900886
Yeah ChatGPT has a limit on messages every 3 hours, I usually hit that often when generating images every day.
I guess its not entirely accurate to say 'per-day' I apologize
I really hope they increase the message limit soon. With all these new features I hate having to decide between which ones to use my gpt4 limit on
i actively give feedback via the chatgpt app whenever i run into these situations
No, no, actually just tell Moxi all your strategies to circumvent the filters ^^

I will say I love not having to worry about "wasting" tokens with Dalle 3 like I did with Dalle 2
Tried and doesn't work on me. Still won't let GPT generate due to copyright lol
I find the price really fair. You can makes hundreds of images each day and don't forget that you additionally get all the other GPT-4 functionalities.
compared to API usage, ChatGPT is an absolute steal of a deal haha. but i agree, even higher limits will be great
However the images is completely different in style yeah. It's just standard oil painting with broad brushworks and moody palette.
yeah i was being facetious lmao, thats kinda obvious, i was hoping cabin would get the message
50 every 3 hours is right on the cusp for continuous usage for me, hopefully it does get bumped up soon
It really is a roll of the dice. Ive had requests where Dalle straight up tells me that theres nothing wrong with the prompts and theyre completely within the content policy, but Dalle just errors out.
For example, I was making things for a friend and these got flagged:
- Tall illustration of a girl with long hair, standing in front of a mirror in a room. She looks at her reflection with surprise, wearing a simple dress.
- Vertical drawing of a female character with flowing hair, observing herself in a mirror. Her room is softly lit, and her expression is one of wonder.
- Tall depiction of a girl with unique eyes and hair, seeing herself in a full-length mirror. The ambiance is calm, and her attire is casual.
Vertical art of a young lady with a distinct hairstyle, examining her reflection. The setting is a cozy room, and her dress is elegant.
((I replied to the wrong message, it was supposed to be the one about you having no issue with filtering, mb!))
Does anyone know that. Bing actually work the same like ChatGPT? it rephrase our prompt before sending to dalle just not being shown in front end.
with all due respect, i didn't suggest circumventing filters nor did i describe how one might do it. i just gave an example of a filtered request because someone said they hadn't run into a filter
and then i explicitly said i don't recommend doing it 🫡
true but i said that before you said not to lol
yes i responded to your comment to be clear, as you began taking it out of context
but no worries let's move on -- dall-e 3 is great lol
Sup guys
I often copy Dalle prompts into Bing to get different seeded generations for an image I like, and youd be surprised at how often bing filters it 
(though probably not that surprised tbh)
Like I was creating an emoji for the server-emojis and it would filter out any of the dalle-made prompts like this:
Emoji vector of a round frog wearing a suit with eyes bulging out to the left, showing a shocked expression and sweating. The art is in a flat and minimalist style.
Just one example^ all variations were also banned so its not just the word 'bulging' thats returning a flag
This dog is our enemy, or friend?
I love that when I click this image, it shows it smaller . 
Lol
The dogger helps to protect Dall-e from the public outcry that could result from unfiltered AI content.
he was the bane of my existance last week
Yep
the best is when you get him after using their "suprise me" function
Yeah
Maybe they should make a separated version of dall-e where, in the other side, generate image without the censorship, and the other side with the censorship
... Why is it the most powerful LLM in the world is SO bad at figuring out what should be filtered and what's not? As an artist, I can't even depict a mother holding a baby without breaking the rules? FFS...
Just having unfiltered stuff would still go against the ideals, it wouldnt happen :/
Still lets people make actually harmful stuff like terrorism and hatespeech
They just need to lighten up the restrictions that they overcompensated for
Eventually there will be tools for unfiltered AI art....heavily filtered Dall-e art will help society get used to it or develop a legal framework. Just like the ongoing conversation about weather AI art can be copywritten
I am pretty sure everybody is working on making the filters as good as possible. It is just a hard problem.
you can ask it what specifically in the content policy was violated...
Why would they even think of censoring stuff anyways? It was fun since the release, and i have to sit back and family friendly content
put her in a burka, now it works. this is fine for my training, but c'mon, really?
weird, you might have gotten a false alarm. could retry from the initial prompt
Oh yeah im sure. Its only been like over a week, I dont expect its an easy thing to just do on something that can make infinite possibilities. Im personally very patient for changes.
Though it is valuable to give criticisms where its due, so they know where to improve
very odd!
seems like it gave you a false alarm imho
dunno. the filtering is just so bad and I don't get it. and I don't mean overbroad (tho it is) but it seems to trigger on the dumbest stuff, like this.
Ive noticed it doesnt like women, like, in general 
Now try it with Kermit
It's because the hidden initial prompt in every chatgpt conversation is so broad and (imo) over-reaching. I wish chatgpt was a bit more transparent about it.
nope. the moment yuo add "woman" you're 50/50 gonna get a block (unless you have it stack a ton of clothing) - adding child is almost surely a block. I gave up on trying to have it give me a good representation of children standing at a bus stop. it just flat out refused, even when I stacked them up in winter gear. so frustrating
Just send them a feedback
the model will output unintentional TOS violations pretty regularly (e.g., nudity, violence, etc.) so it is likely catching it upon review (which i presume is a fine-tuned gpt-4v reviewing the generated images)
I have, I just like to keep bringing it up so that maybe more people will send feedback about it too
so sometimes you get an output like i did, sometimes it'll say whoops i can't show you what i made because i was a bad model
Sorry if this has been asked a million times, but is DALL-E 3 already available for plus subscription users?
Nah, it’s in Microsoft bing
It’s free
I struggle a lot with making character concepts especially. It will ignore everything feminine described and make it a man anyways 2 out of 4 times. Even if the GPT prompt explicitly states that it is in fact a girl throughout the description.
Its better when its a simple character design, but if you want to make more complicated concepts it prefers to make it masculine always.
Also forget making any of the women have any amount of body weight
I imagine its skewed this way due to the backend compensation to try to prevent people from making sexual women, but I dont know 
All plus subscribers should have access to Dall-e 3 afaik
I have tried to play with the Bing Dall-e . The content policy triggering seemed really random there. Sometimes I wasn't able to generate almost anything and at times it generated all kinds of things clearly breaking its own rules.
Told ya
the only reason I'm using DALLe today is because MJ is just impossible to use for certain subjects, like what I'm doing today 3D sand sculptures aping real life. Dalle freakin NAILS the details, but the censorship is so over the top and inconsistently applied it's made it a real excersize in frustration, maybe even more than trying to get MJ to follow my prompts...
Midjourney is 600$ dollars
Just for ai images?
No wonder that company gets broke
I still use Niji since it does stylistic characters so much better still, but Ive since stopped using Midjourney since Dalle dropped.
It can nail things SO well. I did a lot of comparisons in the beginning and was blown away. The images for Dalle just seem structured so right.
30 bucks a month. it's worth it, I use it constantly in my day to day for my contract work. it's tops in output quality, but it's awful at following prompts, so sometimes it's challenging. I wouldn't recommend anybody pay for MJ just for giggles though, plenty of free options out there.
Bro, save your money
I feel bad for your salary
eh, I use the MJ outputs for training for my stable diffusion models. I've got a few fans out there, I know what I'm doing 😉
If he uses it every day I feel like thats worth it. $30 is like, 2 sandwiches
I know ive paid way more for software I only use a few times a month haha
I got chat to tell me my rate limit is 20 images per hour. is it like this for everyone.?
I'd pay vast sums for no limit
hmm could be halucinations? Should be 50 messages (up to 4 images each) per three hours
That said I keep getting hit with rate limits
yeah no way the model knows your chatgpt message limit
In high capacities it can be less
And ask to try later and give you countdown for new picture
Okay. This is cool GPT able to get inspiration from 1980s scifi art, but won't let me reference or at least get inspiration from certain artist styles is difficult.
nice looks like kenshiro?
Haha exactly my thought 😁
anyone notice dalle 3 has such a hard time making crossbows
YES! I tried so long yesterday and just got bows. Sometimes they would be positioned or held as if they were a crossbow, but never had any with the proper crossbow stock
this is the closest i ever got a while ago
Enjoy Halloween safely 🎃
That turned out pretty well!
i actually just got this, im surprised, although her bolts are in her hood lol
Yeah DALLE3 does weapons muuuuuch better than MJ
And actually makes hands holding weapons like they should
WartLog
Product design in dalle (ChatGPT) is top tier level.
