images-discussions

[gilded osprey]

Chat yes

[fair crescent]

For ChatGPT it doesn’t need to be in the prompt itself. You can ask it to only produce tall images, then follow an exact prompt where you have no reference to tall, wide or square imagery, like "A bee".

[cedar void]

Hello, I'm new to DALL-E. I created a character using it in ChatGPT and it's almost perfect, but I need one change made: from short hair to long hair. I asked, 'I like the second image, can you make his hair longer?' However, it generated a different character instead of keeping the original one.
Is there any keyword I can use ?

[fair crescent]

A difficult question. Just keep in mind that generating any image with even an added dot to the prompt can change the whole picture.

To keep it as stable as possible, keep it on the same seed (currently stuck on 5000 due to a bug). Then:

• Copy the prompt of the picture you like
• request ChatGPT to use the exact prompt you'll give it.
• Paste the copied prompt
• Change the reference to the hair. If none exists, add it to the bottom.

There is a sort of priority to the text. First is more important than last. Adding any reference to the bottom is least likely to give big changes, while still allowing to change hair (in most cases)

[gilded osprey]

TIL wide images and tall images 🙌

I just asked for wide vs. tall

[agile peak]

I tried using same prompt. The difference is quite subtle in comparison between Bing | Left and ChatGPT | Right (Dalle•3)

ChatGPT recognized and understands completely when I write “Breeze”.

[uneven niche]

Prompt: A man standing
Expectations: a portrait resolution output of a man standing up the right way up

Output:

[worthy raven]

Three out of four text prompts led to 'prompt blocked' messages in Dalle 3 Bing Image Creator. Is this some kind of joke? Will the ChatGPT version adopt the same restrictive approach? This is unacceptable.

[rigid bough]

I don't know about Bing but ChatGPT has content filters, if your prompts fall outside of acceptable use then the request will be declined

[worthy raven]

In that case, Dall-e 3 is completely off the table for me. I'd rather opt for the unrestricted environment of Midjourney.

[rigid bough]

ok then, have fun! 🙂

[worthy raven]

Yeah. Good luck with the prompt-police Robert.

[tall patio]

D3 on Chatgpt seems to be supervised and correct by another AI agent or something

Could it be Vision is always looking over D3 shoulder the whole time?

Maybe that explains why Bing seems more relaxed

Cus Vision isn't in Bing?

I get the whole picture now

Using vision to supervise and train it at the same time

One stone two birds

[dim cradle]

At least in ChatGPT it does

[dim cradle]

Keep in mind it's a work in progress. It'll get better.

[final jungle]

Im sad, it seems a few of my prompts for displaying people got patched...

[mild ermine]

Well, you can't prompt for it, can you?

[mild ermine]

Yes, I've noticed sometimes it returns results sideways. Interestingly, those results tend to be excellent.

One thing is I have just one such image where it's cut off. There's no way to say, take that result and rotate it right? I should just take the prompt and start anew and try to figure out what in the prompt is causing it to rotate?

[dim cradle]

Just use any simple image editor online lol

[dim cradle]

Yeah you can

What do you think?

[agile peak]

Bing prompt input and Gpt prompt input works entirely different.

[mild ermine]

The thing is it's not just rotated, it's cut off, like it's clipped

[agile peak]

ChatGPT seems to failed to capture Reddit logo in the first try.

[mild ermine]

Very nice. I've been trying to get it to generate more dark stylized images.

It actually does images with very little light better than other AI art generators I've tried, but when things get dark it starts having trouble

Even setting aside photorealism, like if I want a pop art image it'll give it to me on a white background, if I say use a black background the results aren't as good

[dim cradle]

What about this?

I just love this tool. Imagine in ten years.

I just can't have enough lol

You get good results with literally the first try

[agile peak]

I lole’d it’s always fail in the first prompt.

[final jungle]

I can only imagine the things my kids will have access to. Like... my dad never even dreamed something like this would exist. I always dreamed it would and... well, the future is here, lol

[mild ermine]

yeah, it is amazing. I'm shocked at how it nails fine details on the first try

[dim cradle]

Haha for sure

[mild ermine]

Stuff like that was very difficult before, and extremely difficult if you couldn't find an archetype to cite

[dim cradle]

This is crazy

[final jungle]

I mean, here some of you are, making landscape art... while im turning jim carrey into a planeswalker, lol

[dim cradle]

Lmao

I'm just so amazed at the high quality

[final jungle]

im getting closer... ill show one if this next promp works out well

[dim cradle]

It's honestly just beautiful

[final jungle]

ive found a few art styles i really like that it does

Color pencil might be my favorite, oil and abstract are nice too

[dim cradle]

Let my try something abstract @final jungle

[mild ermine]

hey, it's a living 😄

I've prompted jim carrey though, I was trying to get that exagerratedly sly look he gives in like ace ventura. It pretty much got it, I was shocked

[mild ermine]

eternal sunshine of the planeswalker mind

[final jungle]

I gotta say though, more than 'people' is the equipment, the armor. it's beautiful

[mild ermine]

well look at the coloring it did on his technicolor dreamcoat

[dim cradle]

Managing some different styles

[final jungle]

Anyone having Dalle troubles? seems to be having a tough time generating.

[left sparrow]

You are totally right, this works really well. Thanks for the tip!

[rigid bough]

working fine for me

[haughty spruce]

Is it just me or is Bing DALL-E just got degraded in quality in this two days?

[rigid bough]

no idea, I only use ChatGPT DALL-E 3, this is an OpenAI Discord server so most people will be on ChatGPT

[thick smelt]

Hi robert

[half field]

I think I can see that as well, I'm pretty sure it's not just you.

[tall gulch]

I want Dall-E 3 without limitations

they are so damn annoying ;-; it blocks so many genuen requests

[final jungle]

I mean... yes, but then it does this, and it feels all the limitations are simply an illusion.

[half field]

There's a weird drop in quality though

[tall gulch]

What happend with the eyes

[final jungle]

shes a planeswalker, eyes were on purpose, lol

[half field]

I generated the first one 23 hours ago and the second one 5 minutes ago with the same prompt.

[tall gulch]

Usually as soon as the first picture in the conversation is generated

[final jungle]

there was some discussion in the last few days about randomizing the seeds

[tall gulch]

the following picture have the same look or something

You can ask it to use a diffrent seed

[final jungle]

right, but i think thats built in now, or its working on it

[tall gulch]

nah you have to ask it, it only does that when itself understands that you want to create something new in the same conversation.

In generell I wonder why we dont get a direct dall-e 3 interface

Would love to play around with the parameters

[half field]

Even basic adjustment would be nice

[tall gulch]

Its horrible, gpt-4 a very lot of times at least currently seriously dosent understand my intentions

Im already at the point where I prompt:
Copy & Paste the following prompt into Dall-E 3 without any changes:
Prompt

//Remember dont make any changes to the Prompt

I guess thats all because they focus way too hard on safety for a picture generating ai

[final jungle]

depending on my prompt, i start mine with...

Do not change this prompt. Do not add, remove, or change anything, except to add an art style at the beginning. One in color pencil, one in oil, one in realistic, one in abstract.

Or whatever art styles i want, otherwise if i include a name or a proper noun it will do its best to alter it

[tall gulch]

The most impact for the resault on the resault are from the last few words.

oil in realisitc is for real the best looking

[final jungle]

Speaking of oil

Realistic does well for a scene, but for people i find the lighting on skin to be... meh?

[tall gulch]

Thor Dirving a Honda Civic

Digital art of Thor behind the wheel of a Honda Civic, navigating the serpentine roads of a mountain range. The sky above is dramatic, possibly hinting at an approaching storm, with Mjölnir resting on the passenger seat.

The hammer isnt on the passenger seat but at least ints in the picture

not like the others

The others are bad

Artistic depiction of Thor, with his iconic hammer by his side, cruising in a Honda Civic amidst towering mountains. The scene captures the blend of mythology and modernity.

[final jungle]

lol... its wrong but i dont hate it

[final jungle]

Mr. T reprising his role as the cop from Cloudy with a chance of meatballs, with a few years added on? lol

[tall gulch]

its quite funny

I dont get why it let me generate thor but not sailer moon

I wanted sailer moon to drive the civic xd

[final jungle]

my guess is... only certain Thor are content blocked

[tall gulch]

Digital art of a massive red dragon in a medieval setting, breathing intense flames. The scene is crafted to instill fear, with dark, foreboding skies and a landscape ravaged by the dragon's fury.

I like that one

[final jungle]

But since it cant distinguish between Thor, the marvel hero, and Thor the nordic god

it uses the most available resource

[tall gulch]

Took several tryes cause violance and all that fun stuff

[tall gulch]

Its fine

[final jungle]

But thats why thor works, and sailor moon doesnt, i would imagine

let's see if i cant turn sailor moon into a cyborg...

[tall gulch]

Dall-E hates generating a hole body

idk what happend there

cant send prompt cause automod

Dall-E 2

[cursive hornet]

I guess she's not a cyborg after all.

[tall gulch]

Dall-E 3

Prompt:
A flatscreen which is also a toaster, photorealistic

I prefer the output of Dall-E 2 and the Picture Quality of Dall-E 3

Dall-E 3 with several tryes:

Inception

I want that irl so i can watch tiktok while waiting 30sec

[zinc dagger]

I've noticed that with dalle-3 you really have to experiment with the details to get it to get the results you want. Ive started thinking about the prompts as math equations where each term has a certain "weight" to it, and adding different condracitory or reinforced terms can help bring out other aspects of the prompt or diminish really strong things that come out in the image

[final jungle]

Ohh i have a good inception one... its from last week... lets see

[cursive hornet]

Successful Summoning

[tall gulch]

I miss negativ prompts... you can get such good images with civitai custom models:

And thats the same prompt but from dall-e 3

[final jungle]

More people

[dim cradle]

What is that ??😂

[final jungle]

yeah i am a fan of the oil style

Instead of flesh, u might be able to force it to do some warhammer stuff with Nurgle

The only warhammer i have done so far was an accident

And blue

[zinc dagger]

I noticed with space marines in specific it tends to use other pop-culture helmets, like master chief, storm trooper, starcraft, etc.

[final jungle]

yep... made this 100% by accident, but did i continue to use it? better believe it. I didnt ask for star wars, space, anything like that, but here we are. The forest image was first, but i think the kneeling down might be my favorite.

[gentle schooner]

I'm really struggling to generate the "See/hear/speak no evil monkeys" with the third monkey eating popcorn.

DALL-E always seems to give popcorn to all three monkeys.

And/or completely misunderstand what I'm trying to do

[crimson nimbus]

It seems to really struggle with positioning I've noticed.

I tried to make a landscape image with cliffs to the left and a lake to the right but it just generated a bunch of cliffs around and a lake spanning the entire centre :/

[thick smelt]

hmmm hi guys!

[fair crescent]

Keep in mind that #🌄┃general-art is for posting pictures 🙂

[thick smelt]

Roger! I mean okay!

[hearty ether]

How did you get it to create real actors tho?

Hate how faces default to looking like this

Is there any way to get it to not do this?

[fair crescent]

You should've ended with a banger 😉

Artistic depiction of the sorceress atop a tower overlooking a vast kingdom. Her runed book floats open in front of her, its pages fluttering with magic. With her runed staff in hand, she casts intricate illusions that blend seamlessly with the reality of the kingdom below.

[wary stump]

Im not an expert but i would start with specifying the skin texture and try to be as specific as possible when describing the person, like including age. You can also ask gpt to help make her look more natural and less smooth

[thick smelt]

I'm more of a lol so random type dalle 3 user

[wary stump]

You should try making deep fried memes

[thick smelt]

Maybe not today

[final jungle]

Ill DM you. Not really supposed to talk about it in here

[rancid reef]

BTW, not sure if this is the chat for it, but ive seen that dalle produces a lot of grainy images.
Ive seen some people share prompts with words like 8k and has better results. is this a thing?

[final jungle]

I haven't tried that, but I tend to have a big prompt, two or 300 words, and I usually get some pretty good quality. It can also depend on the art style. My personal favorites are color pencil and oil, realistic at abstract tend to have good results as well.

[pliant spindle]

why are commands not allowed? Trying to use /daily but its not an option anymore.

It now works.....

[signal path]

hey i have a question, how to know when dall e will be fully accessible ?

also i want to buy a subscription, will i get it or is it old customers only ?

[earnest flame]

I generally have bad experience with using 8K/highly detailed. It often feels like these just add in more noise.

[timber plank]

Have we reached peak censorship?

[final jungle]

interesting, i thougt the macbook Pro would have been the cause

[timber plank]

I just had an argument about objectification.

This is getting ridiculous

Is there a way to report these to the Dall-E team? I cannot share the chat as it has images.

[dim cradle]

It's really hard to write in the prompt directions. I'm trying to generate a prism with very specific detail about light beams being parallel to the floor and running over the the prism's side faces. The AI has a hard time understanding which way is parallel, perpendicular and so on.

[final jungle]

You were working on this awhile back werent you?

[dim cradle]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.3hkIHjMPjDbmwg3cAmDq?pid=ImgGn this is almost what I want. Except that the lines are too faint and they aren't continuing over the floor

[final jungle]

yeah i was going to say i tinkered with it some more, and u hit the nail on the head with the directions being hard to do. Something i had limited success with was assigning points like I would in geometry, like vertex A has green, B has yellow, ect, and it would stay somewhat consistent

[dim cradle]

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.EVHJYbU_44150PS1HNoQ?pid=ImgGn it clearly interpreted "parallel to the floor" as horizontal stripes

[floral ravine]

pretty crazy

[dim cradle]

I made this sketch in an attempt to control it

[final jungle]

what shape are you using for the base... triangular prism?

Or rectangular?

or are you wanting a pyramid?

And just in case you arent as big a math nerd as I am, lol...
Pyramids have 4 vertices
Triangular Prisms have 6, look like tents
Rectangular Prisms have 8 are are cuboids

[dim cradle]

I think I confused a pyramid with a tetrahedron

[final jungle]

i might be wrong on this one so feel free to google it, but iirc, a pyramid is a recuatngular base with 4 triangle faces, but a tetrahedron is a triangular base with 3 triangular faces

[floral ravine]

yeah I'm starting to have very innocent anime prompts get rejected now, even the gpt4 rewritten prompts. Very unfortunate

[dim cradle]

is it possible to make bing generate the same image but changing some detail or does it always generate something new?

[final jungle]

sorry, i havent used bing lately... i 'think' it changes the seed every time

[final jungle]

could you be more specific than 'innocent'? Ive got a few minutes to try to run some prompts and see if magic happens

[floral ravine]

I think I know what it's doing... It's recycling elements of my previous prompts in my new ones.

so while I change my prompt, it still tries to run elements that I removed. It's adding grunge illustration style to otherwise realistic prompts...

[final jungle]

I hear a lot of people moan about the content policy and censorship... i wish i could turn off the 'altering text for user benefit' or however its phrased. i hate it

[dire vale]

why is dalle 3 in chatgpt pretty nerfed?

[floral ravine]

that was a realistic prompt, you can see what I wrote above, and it like... moshes in a bunch of illustrated effects

[dire vale]

like I cant do like spiderman or famous characters

[floral ravine]

I also didn't ask for a widescreen image lol

[final jungle]

define 'nerfed'... if you mean why cant you easily violate copyright... because of copyright, lol

[dire vale]

well, if so Bing dalle 3 wouldnt have worked either with characters but it does.

[floral ravine]

yeah I might move back to Bing

[dire vale]

in Bing I can just straight up write "spiderman" and it does it

[plucky hare]

Not true! Different companies, different content policies

[floral ravine]

every prompt I run gets rejected, distorted or otherwise obfuscated by unneeded elements being added by gpt4

[final jungle]

i posted a pyramid in the art channel kelvin, its... a WiP but its not shabby

[plucky hare]

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[floral ravine]

it actually is pretty frustrating lol. I thought it would be worth it for aspect ratios

[dire vale]

true but boring 🤷‍♂️

[copper plank]

Lol the aspect ratio code is bugged, it makes a mirror image of things when it should just be rotating 90 degrees

[final jungle]

can you tell it to make it in landscape or portrait? i havent mess with that side of things

[copper plank]

This is 100% consistent behavior, not random text garbling

[floral ravine]

the moment you tell it you want a 9:16, half your images will be sideways yes lol

[copper plank]

Not just sideways, sideways and mirror flipped

Always

[floral ravine]

I don't make text so I wouldn't actually see the mirror effect, interesting

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[copper plank]

Happens on nontext stuff too

[floral ravine]

it's hard to compare the images when it doesn't just rotate but "enhances" my prompt, so my outputs aren't uniform

[final jungle]

tell it not to change them

most of my prompts start like this...

[copper plank]

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[floral ravine]

I do, it still inserts random elements

[final jungle]

Do not change, alter, add, or remove anything from the prompt, other than to include art styles. One in oil, one realistic, one hyper realistic, one abstract...

Where i tell it what art styles to use

[floral ravine]

but why did it insert illustrated effects into my otherwise realistic prompt 😂

it just feels like it knows better than me, what I want..

[final jungle]

yep

[floral ravine]

or it thinks it does

[final jungle]

thats why i said i wish i could disable that

[floral ravine]

I think they have that due to it being on fixed seeds, otherwise you'd get 4 identical outputs

[final jungle]

but since i cant... i improvise, and i tell it NO, BAD DOG!

[floral ravine]

but I do wish at least one of them would be the original prompt lol

[final jungle]

what prompt do you want, the one in the pic u just posted with the metal jacket?

[floral ravine]

I'm curious what it gives you, but that was just an example of the weirdness I'm experiencing

[final jungle]

curiousity shall be sated in a moment, lol

[floral ravine]

the immediate prompt before that one was an illustrated prompt, I feel like it's retaining information from that.

[final jungle]

well... it sorta lied

But i think mine is prettier than yours, lol

[surreal bluff]

I don't get this Dall e...

$20 a month for like 5 pictures a month of over censored crap?

It's not even as good as the free uncensored versions on Github, whats the point of it?

[final jungle]

OHHH hey it did use a diff seed

barely but i see it

that 3rd pic has NYS not NYC, so it is subtly different, its such a small prompt though its not very varied

[floral ravine]

check the actual prompts by opening them, I'm betting it added very slight different wording lol

[final jungle]

nope

[floral ravine]

I was told it literally is stuck to fixed seeds; you should not get any other seeds.

[final jungle]

all 4 exact

look at the prompt

[floral ravine]

for testing purposes and recreating issues

[final jungle]

i told it to force new seeds

[floral ravine]

I mean you told it to that doesn't mean it did 😋

they look the same to me but I can't open any

[final jungle]

Let me try on a larger scale

but they are different

not very much, but thats a small prompt

[floral ravine]

yeah thats why I ask you to click it and open 😂

[final jungle]

lemme grab one of my 1000+ word ones

ill post these 4 in the general art for you, they dont like too many pics in this channel, sec

[floral ravine]

when you click on one it takes you to a page with the actual prompt used to make that specific image

I was just asking if on that page, does the prompt match what you said in gpt4

[final jungle]

oh yeah

[floral ravine]

or did it slightly change them lol

[final jungle]

it did that 4 times

[floral ravine]

hmmmmm

[final jungle]

nope, exact

[whole verge]

I was trying generate images about SpaceX Starship (and Falcon 9), and everytime it will block one image...
Initial promt was "if Starship goes through F9 levels of change I wonder what its going to look like in a few years"

[final jungle]

thats why i use my 'NO CHANGE beginnings

let me go find cybrog patrick stewart... hes a huge prompt, and ill have it force a new seed 4 times

[floral ravine]

hmm only one image is actually different there, the other 3 are identical

idk what the deal is... lol

[whole verge]

am I just getting bad luck?

[final jungle]

Patrick stewart shall light the way!... in 2 minutes when it finishes processing

[final jungle]

without knowing your prompt its hard to say, but my guess is its trying to slap a logo on one of them.

[whole verge]

ah

[final jungle]

ok, banje... first try, 2 images, to make a diff seed, didnt work... gonna use the exact same prompt again and try to get a new seed

gave me 2 identical picards

Yep that did it, one sec ill post them

[floral ravine]

hmmmm interesting

yeah those definitely are all different

I ran the first batch you did, from my prompt, through an image similarity checker... they all ranked at least 95% similar 😂

the highest being 99.6%

[hearty ether]

Bruh

Would be nice to actually have it be more specific

I apologize, but I was unable to generate images based on the provided prompt due to our content policy. Please let me know if you have any other requests or if there's anything else I can assist you with

Like say it in the message 😭

I need to ask if afterwards

[dire iron]

Hello, new here, is someone happen to have the link to the form to get dall-e 3 on chat gpt?

[hearty ether]

Pinned message

lol now I’m out of usages because I’m wasting them trying to trouble shoot

Whyyyyyy

If it knows what caused it to fail, why does it put it in a separate message?

Why should I waste usage asking it instead of it giving feedback when it fails

[floral ravine]

yeah I wasted usage having it re-write my prompt, only for it to fail again. Lol

[mortal summit]

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[hearty ether]

I would try maybe putting it in custom instructions like for it to give more detailed feedback when it fails

But it would probably negatively impact normal generations imo

And also kinda dumb how we can’t have multiple different custom instructions presets to enable or disable

Instead of having to paste them somewhere

separate ones for image and test would be nice

Like I don’t want my image one to be verbose and descriptive since it should be concise but I forget to turn it off when I go to image gen

[quasi zephyr]

How many photos can I generate with dall e in gpt? What is its limitation?

[tall patio]

50 messages per hour as usual, but the one on Bing is much better rn

[wispy terrace]

Is it possible to add negative prompt to negate it from happening?

[fair crescent]

Not at the moment

[floral ravine]

Yeah... I am gonna go back to bing for now, it seems like gpt4 dalle is still being ironed out

not a huge fan of my previous prompts bleeding into my next, unwanted aspect ratios, rotated, etc

[tall patio]

I think it's been loud enough for the past few days

Such a hair pulling experience

[floral ravine]

I'll check back once a few of the current bugs get fixed up, still gonna poke around the other tools

[tall patio]

It's been an interesting experience nevertheless

It's like talking to a mentally challenged robot that's secretly rain man

[floral ravine]

It's all good in my book, I love the new tools

[tall patio]

Far from good evidently

[floral ravine]

Lol what was the previous prompt 😂

I have had weird issues where my previous prompt transfers over to the next one...

[tall patio]

Just that, but in monochrome, inked and shaded manga style

[floral ravine]

sounds like the same issue

thats the main reason I'm back on bing

I can't be bothered to start a new chat for each prompt to keep them from blending

[dim cradle]

so when bing outputs 3 or 2 images, the other 1 or 2 images were censored?

[tall patio]

I tried everything under the sun, including gaslighting, roleplaying, everything

[woven raven]

dall-e 3 is so good wow.. my first day trying it out and I'm extremely impressed with just how accurate it is

[tall patio]

It's just so obstinate I might as well return to other AI tools

[floral ravine]

it's enhancing your prompts and then blending them together, lol. Just use Bing or make new chats for every single creation 💀

[dim cradle]

if bing is censoring images, why would it censor images of ice pyramids with colored lighting?

[tall patio]

But I guess this is the entire point of enrolling into alpha testing

To see what works and what doesn't

Ultimately it has to be useful to be commercially viable

Right now it isn't and hopefully beta can mitigate this problem

[floral ravine]

I mean you're honestly lucky it didn't reject the prompt entirely. I cant that prompt to work in bing either

I just avoid anything with women now

[tall patio]

It's allergic to women

Just like me

wink

[floral ravine]

Well if it can't do basic fashion themes I'm out 😂

But it can, on bing. Lol

[tall patio]

The only difference I can tell is because Bing doesn't have Vision

[floral ravine]

well, Bing doesn't insert a bunch of nonsense into your prompt, either

[tall patio]

Maybe that's why GPT D3 is so rigid because Vision is an imperfect tool that can't make sounds judgement of content safety

And every results it created must be validated by Vision or something

[wispy terrace]

Me trying to prompt images while unable to add negative prompt.

[tall patio]

lul i don't want to do negative prompt, that wall of texts is a nightmare

[wispy terrace]

lol, you're not wrong

[tall patio]

This actually got me thinking

We haven't seen any Dall-e 3 actual result

All of this are re-regenrated result after failed validation from the supervising bot

Generate a swimsuit -> D3 made a perfect swimsuit -> Pass it to Vision or smth to validate ->swimsuit is haram -> D3 generate a full body suit -> Pass to Vission -> Not haram -> Give this result to end user

Whereas in a perfect world it should be

Generate a swimsuit -> D3 made a perfect swimsuit -> Give it to end user

[floral ravine]

people who were early to use Dalle 3 in Bing had very much reduced filters

[tall patio]

Painless and useful

[floral ravine]

I have some stuff that I can no longer create, not even close. Lol

that was like, before microsoft even updated their terms of service I think..

[tall patio]

With OpenAI's typical slow and methodological approach I expect this whole content moderation thing to be resolved by the next 6-8 months

[remote sphinx]

anyone still not have Dall-e 3 yet? I just submitted a forum for it, just wanting to know how long anyones waited for it.

[lucid pine]

Still don't have it

[remote sphinx]

hmm

[half nova]

So Sad Bing's been crippled so hard...

Like, I can't generate A CEO holding up an extra-large pizza, What's unsafe about that?

[floral ravine]

crippled?? sadness

hmm good question lol..

[tall patio]

Pizza is haram

[floral ravine]

weird. I can generate the two subjects separately. A CEO holding a thumbs up, and a large pizza on a table

but as soon as the CEO holds the pizza, big naughty

[feral minnow]

It was nerfed significantly since last night, and it was ALREADY nerfed.

[half nova]

For what reason ;-;

This is rhetorical, I am simply sad.

[tall patio]

Tell it to put the pizza in the box

Then it'll work

[half nova]

I worry I'll get banned for even trying to find a prompt that works

[floral ravine]

Lol

I can do it, if the pizza is a slice on a plate

[half nova]

"How dare you use our service, don't you know that's forbidden?"

[floral ravine]

A CEO holding up a plate with a large slice of pizza ✅

A CEO balancing a large pizza on their head ❌

[feral minnow]

All I wanted was Princess Mononoke Beach Volleyball and you wouldn’t give it to me

[floral ravine]

side note, all the CEOs seem to eat pizza with two forks

[tall patio]

That's because Vision associated the cheese drag on a pizza with a certain human bodily fluid

That's why putting pizza in a box or plate would work

[half nova]

It's very afraid of even people in suits near pizza

[tall patio]

Because it takes gravity into account when the pizza is out of the box

[wintry dune]

whats the highest quality images you guys are able to produce

[tall patio]

So I can vaguely imagine the problem now

Nobody in OpenAI is willing to sit down and comb, categorize a mountain of depraved content

[feral minnow]

That said, I still prefer Bing. Having GPT-4 standing between my prompt and the resulting image turned out to not be great.

[tall patio]

That's why the bot is making overly strict judgment

It couldn't tell because nobody gives it such data

[half nova]

That's not neccesarily a good solution to the problem, only "a" solution

[floral ravine]

GPT ruins every prompt it touches lol

[half nova]

And evidently, it doesn';t even cast a great net

[floral ravine]

I get completely worse results with the same prompts that work great in bing

all that jumbo it adds

[half nova]

I wouldn't be surprised if it has a much higher false-positive hitrate than false-negative.

(It seems painfully eager to generate suggestive images even when I'm trying to avoid it)

[tall patio]

Content is a spectrum

Not binary

[half nova]

I wouldn't ask them to complete remove a content filter, as doing so is asking for trouble. We've all seen the memes that's come out of it.

But in this state?

[waxen portal]

Was there any changes updated etc? Seems different

[dim cradle]

hey! Square pyramid vs tetrahedron. Yep. That's why I was getting images with light beams in random directions never aligned to what I was expecting.

https://th.bing.com/th/id/OIG.4ZfEN1DeiligKx.iOQkx?pid=ImgGn

See? I replaced "tetrahedron" with "square pyramid" in the prompt. Now I got what I wanted. I said "vertical lines" and there they are. The problem was that a tetrahedron has 3 side faces, whereas a square pyramid has 4. This created a confusion about which faces are visible and which faces are facing away.

[feral minnow]

I’m convinced the content bindings have greatly affected the accuracy of the text interpreter too.

[wintry dune]

anyone notice that with dalle 3 on chat gpt, if you add the word fitness it will take an entire prompt detailing a woman, and produce an image of a man

[feral minnow]

It’s attained remote monastry levels of censorship

[floral ravine]

I hate the internal diversity nonsense, it's very lopsided and clear what it's doing. Lol

it does not feel organic to me, it's a yikes

[velvet fiber]

anyone having issues generating images with chatgpt rn?

[final jungle]

Good job! Glad you got what you been after

[tall patio]

At least I got my benchmark technique after this alpha phase

Just ask it to generate women swimsuit

If it fails then it meant the tool is useless

[feral minnow]

The way the blocked prompts eat up all of your recent generation slots on Bing seems to add insult to injury

[tall patio]

Which is kinda ironic considering they offered this tool for free for publicity

But ultimately making a lot of people angry

This is the same situations as having slow internet vs no internet

No internet is less painful and rage inducing

[floral ravine]

you can hide the blocked prompts though

this lil guy

[feral minnow]

Yes, but the blocked prompts still “eat” the slots your successful generations had. They’re just not visible.

[raw portal]

Can somebody help me? Please I don't know how to make an image. What section do I have to click on and what do I have to put? HELP ME!!!

[minor plaza]

and also for the free RLHF

[tall patio]

Well it's OpenAI

Give them time

They might be slow but when they get it right it's mindblowing

[minor plaza]

smartest way to train a good blocklist

[tall patio]

Takes a long training time I guess

[minor plaza]

give the internet unrestricted access for a weekend

[ebon salmon]

Why do some plus members not have access to Dalle-E3?

[mellow dome]

been almost a week , and I still don't have DALL-E 3

[nimble rose]

Because it's still in alpha and only a few people who filled out a form have it... I believe that gradually people will be added.

There are some images that are generated by dalle3, which I am simply impressed by. This person doesn't exist, but it really seems like she does...

[mellow dome]

DIdn't realize there was a form to fill out

[ebon salmon]

I'm not able to post a link here but if you search for Zinny Studio on YouTube and read the comments on her Dalle-3 video, she provies it there.

I was able to try it out but then it required credits. Really awesome images and does a fantastic job with words.

[mellow dome]

So, is it available on Dall-e 3 website yet?

[ebon salmon]

Yes, but I was limited.

[teal timber]

There’s a pinned form in this channel to request access. Or wait a bit and it’ll come to chatGPT. But you need plus either way.

[ebon salmon]

Yep, have Plus. So, wll have to be patient I guess. 🙂

[ebon salmon]

the form you need to fill out is pinned here. It is the same form I filled out.

[mellow dome]

I have a plus for a couple months

Ah I will wait out for a bit then

Busy week anyway

[lofty willow]

What's the DALLE3 character limit for ChatGPT?

[hearty ether]

Yeah it sucks how it alters it

Wish there was just a separate dalle thing instead of blending both chat gpt and dalle

It’s just not trained that well for the prompt formatting and tags

[smoky pumice]

why has bing image creator been censoring certain prompts?

is it the same or different of the open ai dalle 3 website?

[solid root]

does someone know if its still possible to us the dalle experimental model somewhere?

[cursive hornet]

The difference is whether it violates Microsoft or OpenAI's content policy.
The two countries are governed by different laws.

[cursive hornet]

Furthermore, there's a difference in what is ordered in advance.
This makes it very difficult for the OpenAI side to produce low quality doodles on purpose.

[tall patio]

Microsoft butchering everything they touched as usual

[hearty ether]

i mean the ai dungeon thing was before

[smoky pumice]

?

[grim jungle]

Filled out the form yesterday🫡 . How long did u guys wait after filling the form?

[minor plaza]

the copyright filter needs toned down big time

esp when dalle3 has no problem generating copyrighted imagery when you dont ask for it

[hearty ether]

Oh wrong ping

Discord glitches out a bit for me

[void cloak]

I filled out the form for Dalle. How long does it usually take to gain access?

[velvet terrace]

Hi everyone, where can I find the form to request access to Dall.E 3? I am a plus subscriber for chat GPT, but I still have not been given access to Dalle.E 3 inside chat GPT, Isn`t that already available for chat GPT Plus users?

[mystic robin]

is there any announcement or plan on letting the dalle 3 version on chat gpt also utilize chat gpt 4 image analysis? would be amazing if i can just copy paste my stuff and ask do something similar to this

[tall patio]

[balmy flame]

[shy cosmos]

[void cloak]

Thank you!

😊

[agile peak]

Does anyone know how to create prompt for full body shoot? Seems it always cropped til chest.

[void cloak]

Are you using a portrait aspect ratio?

[neat spindle]

ask it to make the image tall?

[agile peak]

Yes. I told GPT to increase the height of resolution but the results are cropped til the chest of the person. Not entirely from top to bottom.

[earnest flame]

Sometimes the best way is to describe the rest of the body. E.g. describing things like pants shoes, standing, etc.

[void cloak]

👆

[agile peak]

Nice! Let me try by adding some description for the rest of body, thanks for the tips ✨

[tall patio]

[earnest flame]

e.g. "manga cover art of a man with black hair, wearing a green canvas jacket, black pants, black shoes, standing, shadow creature standing behind him, promotional art from JoJo's bizarre adventures"

via bing

[tall patio]

Yeah the bing version is unmatched

Not sure why the free version is more sensible than paid version tho

[agile peak]

Exactly like this. However for photorealistic 😁 try to create fictional person for my girlfriend writing a short story.

[earnest flame]

The chatGPT version has more detail.

[tall patio]

If your gf is writing a vampire romance or campy urban fantasy then she better not write in any hot shirtless ancient chad

[teal nova]

is a paid membership of chatgpt worth it to get dalle 3 or is the chatgpt version of it as censored as the bing version?

[tall patio]

Worse than Bing

[teal nova]

then i'll wait haha

[tall patio]

Patience is a virtue indeed

[teal nova]

i tried the bing version to create spooky art "in the style Francis Bacon, Michael Hussar, and Jan Van Eyck". Immediate banned prompt

[earnest flame]

I just tried some stuff out. It didn't let me pass until I took out the word "spooky"

A ghost made of diamonds and cloth, by jan van eyck

Sad news for the spookiest season

To me it looks like they're still working on their filter though. So it's possible it won't be blocked in the future (though who knows when that will be...)

Spooky is like the cute version of scary, so you may want to mess around by adding words like "cute","wholesome" etc. to get a playful halloween vibe

A painting by jan van eyck of a cute Halloween ghost made of diamonds and cloth,

[teal nova]

but i want scary and macabre 😥

[earnest flame]

You can...use those words?

DE3 actually works well with specificity. It is much more likely to hit its targets than previous models.

A painting by jan van eyck of a scary and macabre ghost made of diamonds and cloth

[scarlet urchin]

i find dall e on bing at least and probs on chatgpt...really good at understanding a prompt. i didnt realise how much midjourny struggled with cartoony styles until now

[agile peak]

TIL: Having “custom interactions” can interfere with how Dalle•3 process/create your images.

[hearty ether]

Bruh why does dalle love gender bending

[tall patio]

It doesn't give you woman with breast right

[hearty ether]

Yeah it makes it overly verbose

[hearty ether]

No it gives her a masculine face and everything

Even when I put feminine 5 times

[tall patio]

Oh yeah same

Just very annoying

[agile peak]

It always failed to create image to capture the exact resemblance of character you are describing. But it will correct itself in next conversation.

One of the most challenging for me to create images with dalle: generate a portrait of person with heterochromia 🤣 it always has same eyes colors.

[feral minnow]

What is the best way to prompt text or typographical elements?

[sullen basin]

Anyone else having issues with images being rotated 90 degrees? Specifically happens when I want to generate a full body portrait of a character. I stead I just get a chest-up view with the art turned 90 degrees.

Anyone know how to avoid this and actually get full body images?

[tall patio]

Does anyone know the prompts for 'not looking into the camera' ?

[earnest flame]

As this feature is new, we are all still trying to understand the best tactics. Most likely your best bets will be to keep the words short and have the instructions to make the words near the beginning of the prompt.

[floral ravine]

oof all my prompts from the first couple days error, am I allowed to share that stuff still? none of it was bad..

[earnest flame]

I believe bing recently tightened its filters.

[earnest flame]

"over the shoulder", "looking away" "looking to the side" etc.

[floral ravine]

it's a bit strict now 😦

like... very.

[tall patio]

[earnest flame]

Sadly we do not have any insights into the internal process there

But I imagine they will continue to work on the filters as time goes on.

[floral ravine]

#art-and-illustrations message

[earnest flame]

That's just speculation though

[floral ravine]

should I remove these lol, those prompts now error

it's just... why

[earnest flame]

Yeah it can be very frustrating

[floral ravine]

I get it but it's just frustrating having it change like that

[earnest flame]

Rest assured we will inform you if an image doesn't conform to the rules.

For now I would suggest digging for the word that is causing your issue.

Do so gingerly though. I'm not sure how quickly an account gets suspended from Bing

[floral ravine]

Yeah I unfortunately have a friend who got 24 hour penalty for that lol

[earnest flame]

Heads up: "spooky" is blocked right now.

[tall patio]

Thanks man

I used to laugh at the idea being somewhat literate and proficient at English is already sufficient to become a 'prompt engineer' which is a glorified title

[floral ravine]

I'll just not tamper with anything... I hope the filters get relaxed again, it does really make it difficult to use for what I think is pretty sfw stuff

like a 3 out of 10 on the spiciness scale

[tall patio]

But after sitting down and wrestling with D3 I must admit prompt engineer is a real profession

[earnest flame]

Yeah just err on the side of caution right now. Keep word choices very very mild.

[tall patio]

Never before have I burned out my messages cap so quickly

[lunar sun]

Is there a way to get something other than square generations for DALLE3? Like 16:9 aspect ratio?

Like I've gotten it to be not so square, but the actual image still appears to be a square and the rest is just black

[agile peak]

I think Dalle• doesn’t understand negate terms such as “not”, “no” or “without”. So try to play around with different angles or positions instead.

[teal timber]

Mine are usually filled out in wide and tall. But I do get blank areas when the model didnt feel the need. Ask for background details

[agile peak]

Just realized they changed it, capped out to 25 max today 🙉

[lunar sun]

Yeah dang that sucks

Didn't even realize

[brave isle]

My dalle 3 portrait a are always cartoonish no matter my prompts.

Any suggestions?

[lunar sun]

What is your prompt

[cursive hornet]

Prompt Engineering is the truth. But it is empty.

[brave isle]

“Portrait shot of a woman, yellow shirt, photograph”

[lunar sun]

And what style are you trying to get it to look like?

Hyperrealistic?

[teal timber]

Photograph portrait

[brave isle]

“Portrait shot of a woman, yellow shirt, photograph, hyperrealistic

[brave isle]

Photograph Portrait shot of a woman, yellow shirt, photograph

[cerulean belfry]

Include some fake camera parameters, like "shot on 80mm lens at f/2.4 ISO 200"

Don't use hyperrealistic. It's an art term.

Style of illustration.

Which is what you got.

[brave isle]

Ok, let me try

[indigo spindle]

why dalle is not in my gpt-4

[cerulean belfry]

But overall D3 doesn't seem great with photorealistic human portraits right now. I don't know what they trained it on, but it often looks like DAZ 3D models.

[lunar sun]

You don't have it yet. Wait

[cerulean belfry]

And very limited faces.

[cinder ginkgo]

The image recognition function is on the shelves

[brave isle]

Portrait shot of a woman, yellow shirt, photograph, shot on 80mm lens at f/2.4 ISO 200

[brave isle]

Yes, it still doesn't achieve that realistic detail. I don't know if it's to avoid misuse.

[tall patio]

Can I show my manga creation without being banned, hammered, exiled and split into atom?

[obtuse bough]

#🌄┃general-art

[agile peak]

The Dalle creations with same prompt between Bing and ChatGPT is pretty noticeable. Wonder why.

Bing Image Creator

GPT-4 Dalle

But props to Dalle on ChatGPT. It managed to capture monkeys perfectly ✨

[cerulean belfry]

This is what I got last week when I tried photorealism prompts. But yes, it still looks artificial, like a mixture of a photo and 3D render. Hopefully it'll be improved eventually.

[tender sigil]

Guys the Bing image creator is declining even simple prompts these days

they say unsafe content detected for simple safe prompts too

the filter has gotten WAYYY too strong that they even decline prompts having regular words- fun, embedded, singer, rapper, golden chain etc and mostly decline prompts with a Copyrighted character in them

like if the character does any action

how to bypass this? does anyone have any idea

[obtuse bough]

It has censorship with the word woman and girl so..

[lofty willow]

Been getting solid results with ChatGPT and DALLE

Highly recommend working on your custom instructions if you haven't already

Photorealism is also solid with good instructions. Extremely impressed

[agile peak]

Managed to get Heterochromia from Dalle•3 but looks too animated for photorealistic 😆

[lofty willow]

PROTIP: don't tell it to be photorealistic

Think of the data. You specify something, it filters from those sources. If you ask for photorealistic, it'll grab from images that aren't real but made to look photorealistic

[lone mantle]

Seems like Bing Image Creator doesnt reset anymore

Since 1,5 weeks it didnt reset for me

[agile peak]

What I supposed to do? By default it create animated or sketches.

[lofty willow]

Metadata, details. I'd stay away from words that have "realistic" in them, such as "photorealistic"

[lucid star]

why I don

why i don't have dall e3 on that?

[neon sequoia]

It’s not available to everyone on Plus yet. It’s coming this month, or I think there’s a form pinned in this channel to opt in to Beta test it (though I’m not sure of the status on that atm)

[lucid star]

But my friend and someone else have it😭

[neon sequoia]

Is it possible they signed up to test it somehow? I have it from the form from last week. It’s also possible they’re in the process of rolling it out to all Plus members too.

[lucid star]

Well, just wait quietly. Maybe it's opening up slowly. I just submitted the form today.

[loud field]

hey

how do I get Dall3 to make ugly people?

or at least average

I always get perfect top models

[tall patio]

What makes a person ugly

Short nose

Small eyes

Crooked teeth

Like that

[loud field]

I find it absurd that any synonim of the word ugly is blocked

ugly people are offensive

I honestly can't make anyone who isn't a perfect model

[neon sequoia]

If you’re asking it for realistic / photo style images I always get super model type results. In illustrations and renders it makes more “normal” people.

[loud field]

this Dall3 in some aspects is worse than a typical civitai model: everyone is perfect-looking and everything is sexualized

[neon sequoia]

I’ve given up trying photo style things of people at the moment in Dalle3. It’s miles ahead of other AI image generators in many other aspects except for photo styles of people imo

[remote zephyr]

I just realised that I have it now... I've been checking for the last few days, not realising that I had to switch to gpt4 for it to be available (mine has been on Dall-e 3 mode for days

[wanton hatch]

You need to decide if you want photorealism or realism.
Photorealism = painting that resembles realism, but still painterly.
If you want realism you don't add a painting style "photorealism", you want photography.

[loud field]

I am trying to do a woman with long, eerie, thin, stilt-like cybernetic legs, but I struggle

[tall patio]

D3 hates women

[wispy storm]

Prompting issues

[tall patio]

Yeah I jest

But D3 should be more relaxed for paid users, not stricter is all I'm saying

I live in a 3rd world country and $20 is not a small amount of money

I couldn't sleep when I first heard of D3

[agile peak]

Heterochromia achieved. A rebellious young woman with Asian and European bloods.

[wispy storm]

I like what it does

[tall patio]

Can you put her in a swimsuit?

[agile peak]

Fusing M*djorney and Dalle prompts worked. Tried many times before, failed.

[agile peak]

I feel you. I tried with bing today, trying to capture modest looks - but it gave me oversexualised women instead.

[loud field]

I love how they over-censor a model that they themselves created to be.... like this

I like this one, needs a cyber implant on her head tho

[wanton hatch]

It was not extremely easy to reach these images.... ChatGPT always encounters "errors" and only renders 1-2 images in the chat.

[loud field]

the one thing StableXL does that Dall3 can't is, ugly or average looking people

on everything else, Dall3 is just so much better

[agile peak]

Dalle•3: Bing & ChatGPT difference

Same prompt. However Bing version managed to capture the sunlight.

[fair crescent]

Are you sure it's the same prompt? Unless specifically requested, ChatGPT and Bing chat change the prompt to what they think is more suitable.

[agile peak]

Dalle: Bing and ChatGPT difference (2).

[agile peak]

Yes. I just copy pasted the prompt from Bing to ChatGPT (vice versa), it generated entirely different results especially for oil paintings.

[tough atlas]

Is chatgpt dalle still nerfed compared to bing, or are they on par now?

[loud field]

They are probably trained differently

And Bing's trained better

Too bad Bing is insane

[agile peak]

Here’s the prompt: Loose and expressive oil painting drawing inspiration from the Fauvist movement, capturing Charles Darwin amidst the wonders of the animal kingdom set in a 19th-century naturalist’s study, with the artistic touch of George Stubbs.

[loud field]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1099039376488534147/1161984964242448457/a0a2d893-c7b9-4da2-9984-40554d99be4e.jpg?ex=653a49d4&is=6527d4d4&hm=b6f7c8d47f3b222daa6fb50c7a8f607f06ef08d2b99e816bfc6bde1587755713&

[agile peak]

It’s for second images.

[loud field]

I love this but she is missing a finger!!

How to fix

[agile peak]

I don’t know. It’s matter of preference, but when it comes to generating an oil paintings - I like Bing version more than ChatGPT. It’s colorful and look more like paintings while ChatGPT version look too basic.

Dalle image results in ChatGPT more like Dalle•2.5 than Dalle•3 😜 kek

Last one. Bing version added emotional attachment to the oil paintings. While ChatGPT version made him look like arguing.

[safe sleet]

If one were able to use a reference image in ChatGPT Dalle3... it's game over for the other models. Would be really amazing if one could upload a image of an object and then create various images from different angles with that object

[agile peak]

I don’t quite understand. Why ChatGPT dalle keep making it worse? While Bing can do it in single take for photograph image.

[wispy storm]

Prompt isn't interact the same

[agile peak]

How? Can you provide an example? Or I must be missing something 🥺

[safe sleet]

@agile peak There is no feature available yet, my point was that it would be amazing if they add a feature like this in the future

[agile peak]

Ah. So it’s entirely still on beta testing for dalle as well right. Which is entirely different version than the one implemented in Bing.

[thick smelt]

is dall e hating on girls??

let's sue open ai

[white skiff]

no but it does not like people who try to make pics of them with naughty or bad intentions

[thick smelt]

bad intentions??

[agile peak]

Why obsessed with that 😆

[white skiff]

you can refer to the news of what people did with bing before hard filter integration

[thick smelt]

i don't know what they do...

[wispy storm]

? I can make picture of e girl wdym ?

[thick smelt]

left; bing
right: labs

Prompt: snowy paris, day a beagle is strolling by
which one is better? (react)

[fair crescent]

But you cannot use this exact prompt in Bing as well as ChatGPT. ChatGPT will block it, as Charles Darwin is a person still blocked. So it will have a different prompt for ChatGPT and cannot be ine on one compared to Bing.

[agile peak]

I think so far.. with chatGPT, I can trick it into an old vintage photographs and give blurry lens to the prompts. Which is worked out.

But for modern photographs it’s not capture the exact same thing like Bing version 😁

[agile peak]

What do you mean? I just did both Charles Darwin and Nikola Tesla for photography without any issues or getting blocked in the first attempt. Here’s the result from Bing image creators.

This won’t work in ChatGPT. It will give fakery results.

Prompt: “A photograph view of Nikola Tesla, in his study, sits at a wooden desk strewn with notes and sketches of scientific formulas. He show a book that have text 'Futurism' in the cover. Sunlight filters through the vintage window, casting warm, natural light on the scene. The style is photorealistic, akin to a historical photograph, capturing every wrinkle and little mouthsache in Tesla face. Camera: Canon EOS 5D Mark IV, with soft, diffused lighting.”

[tall patio]

Blur won't work

I tried at least

[thick smelt]

i tried A photograph view of a pigeon looking on the skyline of manila, day, 1980s photography and here's the result

[white skiff]

exactly what he said. you cant do a proper comparison if the other one does not allow the same prompt

[agile peak]

It’s mixed experience for me. There was a time ChatGPT will refuse to generate but in the other time ChatGPT will allow it.

[remote sphinx]

I've alrady tried it and I still don't have access to it

[zinc dagger]

is there a timeline of when Dalle-3 will be coming to the API?

[white skiff]

personally i think after everyone has access to chatgpt dall-e 3 the bing chat should be forbidden here as its just creates so much confusion as the features and filters are different and different parties manage the two at different pace

[tall patio]

So I generated this in ChatGPT

Does anyone know how to expand this image horizontally, but still the same image?

Kinda like the zoomout function in Midjourney

And this too

An image of an onsen, flat style, direct shot, wes anderson style

Manga monochrome art style obviously

[shy cosmos]

Photoshop AI

[tall patio]

Yeah I used generative fill in Photoshop too but it doesn't help much

It's just very rudimentary

Unable to expand pictures

[shy cosmos]

Unfortunately I believe that will be the only way for an already existing image (unless there’s a GitHub user who made something somewhere idk)

Also you can’t expand using it? There is very much a way to do that

[mild ermine]

I'm trying to get a guy posed in the distinctive "Walk like an Egyptian" pose. It's not working 😦

[tall patio]

Yeah i troubled shoot via photoshop discord and nobody can expand it too

But the thing is sometimes it does generate a wide 16:9 picture

Where as those pics above are 1:1

The 16:9 version looks nothing like this, which is what I want

Kinda hard to get around without burning more of my messages

[white skiff]

you can say tall or wide photo to it, else is usually defaults to square

[tall patio]

[shy cosmos]

My gf uses it as a faster way to make bigger images without having to color match the background. I can understand if it doesn’t quite finish the second one, but a white background should be fine to expand

Also

Yeah haha
you can ask it to do a longer image during generation. I assumed you wanted it for those though

[tall patio]

This one is dope tho

Love you so much daddy Altman

[shy cosmos]

||did you super react to your own image? ||

[tall patio]

Yes, cus I like to ego boost myself

Thanks for asking

[shy cosmos]

Fair enough hahaha

[tall patio]

Also my nitro will run out next week

Might as well

Another ego boost will do me well

[final jungle]

thats cute.

[uncut haven]

Hmm... Are these occurs since DALL-E 3 still beta? I got many content policy block, even in "everyday object but oddly satisfying ones"(I got images like perfect cubed chocolate, perfect sphere soap, etc.), "steampunk style cube with many gears and mechanical parts", "futuristic city".

[dim cradle]

Is this Marzia

[wispy storm]

?

[dim cradle]

that woman looks exactly like PewdiePie's wife Marzia

[stiff forum]

Why are images of cucumber or honey getting blocked? "Photo from a top-down view of honey dripping from a wooden dipper or contained in a jar. The background around the honey is transparent." "Photo from a top-down view of a simple, full-length cucumber. The background around the cucumber is transparent."

[wispy storm]

Oh you are right

[nova crystal]

for people that have chat gpt 4 can just ask chat gpt to generate them photos so why cant we just use dall e 3 freely?

[quartz void]

Why are images of cucumber or honey getting blocked? "Photo from a top-down view of honey dripping from a wooden dipper or contained in a jar. The background around the honey is transparent." "Photo from a top-down view of a simple, full-length cucumber. The background around the cucumber is transparent."

[stiff forum]

💀

[feral minnow]

Horizontally?

The problem with expanding that image with Generative Fill is that all of the boundaries on it terminate, leaving the model with no “strands” to work with.

[nova crystal]

tried generating it and it worked fine for me

[vapid saddle]

so true...a few failed attempts, the fun is gone...

[ripe wraith]

yooooo anyone else getting 5 images back from GPT-Dalle if they ask??

oh, nevermind, it cut the 5th out.. but there was 5th spinny loady box

[agile peak]

I just figured it out 😂 turned out it's possible to tell chatGPT to create images in form of story. This is neat!

[ripe wraith]

Now make it post-apocalyptic. I love doing that to everything :evil:

[radiant socket]

Anyone know what time the memorial service for Midjourney is scheduled for?

[ripe wraith]

nobody knows / is going 😄

[stiff forum]

thank you now i have the sprite image

idk why it doesnt work for me

[radiant socket]

I am really happy with ChatGPT at the moment with this dall-e arrangement. For 20$ I get both chatgpt and dall-e, instead of with midjourney I had to pay 60$ just because I wanted 'stealth' mode.

And the quality is really nice. I hope they keep improving it (which they probably will)

[ripe wraith]

yeah, this 1 trick makes large companies so mad... it's basically socialism considering the capitalistic sharks in the waters rn

[forest seal]

Honestly, I like the fact I can just make pretty realistic renditions of historical and fictional events.

Midjourney costs 60 a month? Dang

[ripe wraith]

for me, its cookie monster in every possible situation in human memory

[radiant socket]

The standard plan is 30$ if I'm not mistaken (or 20$? I don't remember). But if you want to make images privately, you have to go for the Pro plan which is 60$. They also introduced a new 120$ plan

[ripe wraith]

wow $120 for a few tools and some privacy... when Dalle just gives you ownership for free

[radiant socket]

Also, if you belong to a company with a revenue stream above a certain mark (don't remember it), you have to go for the Pro or Mega (the 120$)

[ripe wraith]

I'm curious how quickly people quit paying, and what they do about it

[forest seal]

I just think stuff like this is amazing lawl

[radiant socket]

They will definitely be impacted, but they have a lot of users so they'll survive I guess.

[ripe wraith]

don't forget the memes

[radiant socket]

They also talk about releasing v6 of Midjourney which is supposed to be a major improvement, so that might change things a bit.

Anyway, I'm not signing up to them again. I'm sick of them.

[ripe wraith]

YES

why does the armor have nipple space

[wooden salmon]

hi guys, what is midjourney?

[ripe wraith]

the past -- Dalle competitor

[wooden salmon]

got it

[radiant socket]

midjourney is another ai art generator. there is also stable diffusion.

[forest seal]

Ask dall e 3, I just wanted a hyperrealistic winnie the pooh in roman armor…

[ripe wraith]

so pooh, when viewed hyperrealistically, has massive nips... noted

[radiant socket]

but stable diffusion is really weak most of the time, even after sdxl.

[ripe wraith]

stable diffusion is open source right? i remember when it first came out i hacked it and removed the safety.. had SO MUCH FUN

[wooden salmon]

I'm struggling to effectively use DALL-E to generate images. When I find a style I like, I'm unsure how to create additional images with a similar aesthetic. Do you have any recommendations?

[radiant socket]

You can run stable diffusion your pc if you have a good gpu (and even if you don't, but it will be slow).

[ripe wraith]

This is the current frontier of prompt engineering. We're all learning, but lots of resources if you share your prompts and whats going wrong.

[radiant socket]

And if you run it on your computer you can use it to make... well, I don't know if I can write this here, but, let's just say you can make things that you can't make with midjourney or dall-e

[ripe wraith]

OMG I made fake people, doing unspeakable things

[radiant socket]

there are also sites that run stable diffusion models that let you make anything

[wooden salmon]

thank you @ripe wraith !

[white skiff]

yeah its a bit hard as many styles have few artists you could refer to but using those are forbidden in chatgpt dall-e

[ripe wraith]

AI self portrait

[forest seal]

Honestly, I think the only real issues it has right now are some instances with text (but 9/10 times its pretty good with text), facial features, and lighting

And thats really saying something

Somehow it even made something better than what i wanted…

[wooden salmon]

@ripe wraith, need a hand with DALL-E. Created a 'Vegas' avatar for a quiz I am creating, now want a 'Big Apple' version: same style but with NY background, an apple, no glasses. Previous ChatGPT advice didn’t nail the aesthetic. Tips on instructing DALL-E for consistency?

[forest seal]

Have you tried copying the prompt that was in that specific image?

[wooden salmon]

no I havent, I can try.

[radiant socket]

Great. I got timed out by automod for 5 minutes because I used a certain four-letter word to describe what you can do with stable diffusion. Got to be a bit more mindful, I guess.

[forest seal]

Thems the rules

[radiant socket]

Yep

[ripe wraith]

do you also have GPT vision? the ability to upload images to GPT/

[wooden salmon]

yes I do @ripe wraith

[shy cosmos]

Wasn’t the daily theme royalty yesterday? When does it change per day?

[ripe wraith]

First advice, always give your prompts back to GPT and ask it exactly what you did here. Quote your prompts like this:
```
The original prompt here.
```

Then try asking it to change it or improve what you don't like.

[ripe wraith]

Second advice, upload the images you created, and ask for it to explain why it isn't the way you want, then ask it to craft a new prompt for GPT-Dalle to get what you want. Try that a few times I promise you'll get close.

[wooden salmon]

great tips! I am going to try it out now and will let you know if it works, thanks @ripe wraith

[ripe wraith]

giving advice is so meta now, love it

[forest seal]

Lawl

[nova crystal]

do you want the other one too?

[forest seal]

It also helps that chatgpt’s dall e 3 makes its own prompts which can be viewed if you click on the image i believe, and copied

So if you get that prompt you should get similar results

[ripe wraith]

yeah, when i say to quote the prompt i mean the real one gpt sent to dalle

[forest seal]

Ah

[ripe wraith]

good to point out

[fair crescent]

If it's a prooven accident/not meant like that you can send a mod message. The first time is ok. Then 30m or so. Then much longer...
Better to have it rescinded. Otherwise I would still have been muted for some accidental wrong words 😄

[fair crescent]

I'm glad you've found help here. To separate some of the chatter it's best to do it in the appropriate channel. #❌┃prompt-help would be perfect for this particular one. For next time!

[ripe wraith]

my bad, i encouraged it 🫢 sryyy

[radiant socket]

It's ok. I don't think it will happen again.

Just remember to use PG-13 words

[fair crescent]

No problem. You've seen me answer enough questions here as well 😄

[radiant socket]

I can also use words like 'prurience' or 'indelicacy' maybe instead, which are ok hopefully

[ripe wraith]

heck, let's make the daily them about 'indelicacy'

[radiant socket]

that was a joke yeah, but it works. I wasn't banned.

I'm going to use 'indelicacy' in a prompt right now, really wondering what it will give.

[ripe wraith]

a cartoon hammer hitting something i hope

[agile peak]

Could make a good story. However had to taught and tried multiple attempts to prevent ChatGPT from hallucinating generate random/unrelated images.

[earnest flame]

I was also answering questions here so really the most naughty one was me.

[nova crystal]

That looks way too good

[ripe wraith]

EXQUISITE

[floral ravine]

😂

[ripe wraith]

this is the future of art

omg the top right is the definition of anxiety

ai is going to RUIN us if we let it lmao

[nova crystal]

I want to post in r/art all the photos that look semi real and see how long it takes them to remove them

[ripe wraith]

these probably won't.. maybe the bottom right

ohh sorry misread

REDDIT, ya good luck.. artists hahaha

[nova crystal]

I don’t mean these they do kinda look ai like, I mean really real like

[ripe wraith]

yeah sometimes you stumble on realism gold with very little prompting. we're exploring its brain, so fun

[nova crystal]

R/art when they see they are flooded with ai art

[ripe wraith]

they'll be recused to small in-person art galleries, with heavy restrictions to get in. Like classic car groups now.

[nova crystal]

Lame, then it will kinda lose its purpose showing people cool art you made

[ripe wraith]

i mean the ai-hating artist.. the rest of us will express whats inside us better than ever before 🚀

[forest seal]

Lmfao

[earnest flame]

We actually have #real-or-fake where you can post these for fun to play with others.

[nova crystal]

Oh fr? Pog

[earnest flame]

Dall-e has broken my brain..is this actual art? It does not look like ai to me.

[tidal dew]

any intel on when dalle 3 is gonna be on the openai website :3

[nova crystal]

It’s only dall e 2

[earnest flame]

They have not made a release about that yet

[nova crystal]

It’s ai I got a lot more like these

[radiant socket]

it is available on bing

[earnest flame]

From dall-e?

[stiff forum]

yes

[tidal dew]

yep been using it there ty! just hyped for it from the source haha

[nova crystal]

Send thing again

For some reason the ai is extremely bad at drawing swords

[stiff forum]

"Photo from a top-down view of a simple, full-length cucumber. The background around the cucumber is transparent."

[nova crystal]

The ai just will not do any katanas right

[nova crystal]

Will not let me

[stiff forum]

Btw I said full length cuz without it, it sends a cute little cucumber 💀

[ripe wraith]

Now do a peach

[nova crystal]

Allows normally but when I ask it to make it lengthier it will not work

[stiff forum]

ye idk the policy is weird

[stiff forum]

like this is what I got 💀

which is why I wanted it longer

[nova crystal]

Why tf does it give him 4 swords

[nova crystal]

How did you pass the copy right policy

[ripe wraith]

dont discuss that here 😄

[nova crystal]

Figured

[wintry dune]

You’re right it’s weird since it does a lot of other weapons well

[scarlet urchin]

yeah its bad

[wintry dune]

This doesn’t seem half bad

[scarlet urchin]

ooohh that's nice! i find if u hide the katana it works

[forest seal]

Interesting, I never even considered how well it does weapons

I can only begin to imagine dall e 4…

[nova crystal]

from a lot of generations its seems like it really straggles to understand where the blade starts and where the handle should be, also it struggles to decide if the character should have 1 blade or 10

[scarlet urchin]

its weird cause it does do guns...alrightish

[lofty thunder]

Anyone know what I could do to get a successful "AWOOOOOGA" / eyes popping out of the head effect? I haven't been having any luck with bulging eyes. It just generates wide, bloodshot eyes

[buoyant sand]

Will the bing image creator ever allow outpainting?

[feral minnow]

We’d be lucky if it even offered different aspect ratios

I’ve done outpainting on DALL-E 3 images using Firefly.

[earnest flame]

Anything over the shoulder encounters a common line continuation error. It's pretty interesting.

Otherwise I get okay katanas

[feral minnow]

I’ll show you how if you’d like, but it may be outside of the scope of this channel

[gilded osprey]

😂 I tried via Vision.

Yes, Vision saw a mobile phone.

[lofty thunder]

Lol not quite but good attempt, I couldn't get anything close to the effect I wanted

[fair crescent]

With these things I notice ChatGPT can be your friend. Some things I couldn't google before because you need to know the specific jargon I can ask ChatGPT. The weird microphone Freddie Mercury was holding? A "half microphone stand or bottomless microphone stand". I just ask and receive.

And then use that description for a picture

[lofty thunder]

Thank you, I'll have to mess around with this process. It's generating fever dreams for me on my first attempt

[fair crescent]

If you want more help I suggested taking this to #❌┃prompt-help so we can discuss about everything and nothing here 🙂

But a good start!
ChatGPT can probably make something of that as well.

[lofty thunder]

Absolutly, my apologizes and thank you for the tips

[fair crescent]

No apologies needed

[ionic cradle]

is dall-e 3 out yet?

[prime nimbus]

midjourney higkey gets dogged on by dalle-3

[mortal summit]

It is out on Bing and being rolled out to all ChatGPT plus subscribers.

[shy cosmos]

I tried

[remote sphinx]

the frogman approves

[remote sphinx]

I believe so but I have yet to get it, but I did send in a forum for it

[ionic cradle]

ah a staggered rollout it seems

[mortal summit]

ChatGPT has a lot of subscribers ^^

[mortal summit]

Hm, you probably have to wait for a few days 🫣

[remote sphinx]

I've been waiting more than a week. Then I sent the forum yesterday cause I still haevn't gotten it.

[mild ermine]

This prompting is absurdly good

I only wish it knew what it was like to pose like an egyptian

[remote sphinx]

so can someone test out if they can get The Flying Dutchman from pirates of the caribbean in Dall-e 3?

[agile peak]

𝗔𝗹𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗻𝗮𝘁𝗲 𝗿𝗲𝗮𝗹𝗶𝘁𝘆 𝗳𝘂𝗻 ⚜️

[lofty thunder]

Lol I love the back and white one

[shy cosmos]

Haha ikr, i almost want to use it as a reaction emoji or sticker

feel free to use it if you wish

[lofty thunder]

Thank you lol I'm gonna save it. I'm curious what art style did it describe that as so I can maybe replicate it

[shy cosmos]

Shoooot, i went back since i put it in a gpt thread for another theme. I mostly told GPT to make a chubby frog in a suit popping his eyes out looking to the left, looking at the most attractive thing he's ever seen (cartoon style)

adjust as needed ofc

[lofty thunder]

Here's a couple decent ones it generated Frogman

[remote sphinx]

honestly not terrible! Not exactly the flying dutchman but its good!

[lofty thunder]

Yeah I just googled pics of the real deal and I see the prow has that mouth-look to it. I'll play around with it and try to make something closer

[shy cosmos]

Inspired me to do this

The Flying Duchman but more as a massive ghost ship fleet

[lofty thunder]

It's having a hard time doing the prow of the ship. It keeps creating ships that resemble a goblin shark or something

[rancid jolt]

I’m unable to get Bing to generate a hyperrealistic picture of “pepe the frog”. Lmao

It blocks me from doing so. All three prompts I’ve given it have been blocked.

[lofty thunder]

Pepe might be banned since there's people who call it a hate symbol. My friend has made some of pepe but he called it "smug meme frog" or "sad meme frog" in his

[agile peak]

It's easier to do on bing than on chatgpt lmao

[shy cosmos]

Oh thats good if it works. Thats the frog I used earlier lmao. 'Cartoon chubby frog with red lips'
But if it knows meme frog-

[rancid jolt]

It’s interesting.. according to the wiki, the creator of the frog has sued organizations for using it as a hate symbol.

The character is used as a meme and because of it’s anthropomorphic nature, can be used in combination with quite literally everything human related. 😞

[agile peak]

I typed "Pepes the frog" and used oil paintings dueling with the bear.

Cause bear market need to be over ser 😁

[lofty thunder]

Yeah it's silly. Real memesters know Pepe is a cornerstone of meme culture

[agile peak]

I have created a lot of pepe using new yorker cover, just in case i am ready for the meme of market sentiment lmao

[shy cosmos]

Them banning it just kinda shows how little whoever was in charge of that is aware of things. I think almost everyone online except News outlets knows Pepe is fine

[agile peak]

Last one 🐸

[shy cosmos]

Before and after of every options trader be like

[ancient jasper]

getting some lag

[shy cosmos]

Lmao no yeah, it totally knows what 'meme frog' is

also cursed af body

[ancient jasper]

Mike Wazowski

[agile peak]

Woah. Apparently when you generate images by telling it to keep increasing the lighting, shadows and reflections third times... from ChatGPT dalle• it will stop generating due to copyright 😭

[nova crystal]

what is the prompt on the second one it looks really good

[nova crystal]

tried to recreate but i cant get the effect that it look like jojo

[earnest flame]

manga cover art portrait of a man with black hair, wearing a green canvas jacket, wielding a katana, shadow creature standing behind him, promotional art from JoJo's bizarre adventures

Done on Bing

It may be that it does not work on chatGPt which is doing a nice job at scrubbing other people's art/work.

[nova crystal]

i think what was missing in mine is the "manga cover art" might work

[wintry dune]

You guys have any tricks for increasing image quality, I’ve been saying things like “portrayed in supreme quality 16k ultra-resolution”

[charred fable]

Who makes these images and what are the prompts 😭 they lit af 😹

[shy cosmos]

'Damn these images go hard, mind if I screenshot' 🔥

[wintry dune]

Also would love to hear any good manga styles you guys use for your images

[charred fable]

Be my guest

[karmic glade]

I got one this with prompt "16x9 vertical poster sized". And then tried again with this prompt "16x9 sized with 16 being the vertical and 9 being the horizontal"

Is there any reliable prompt to get it to actually make the image correctly vertical in a 16x9 format?

[charred fable]

Also what I’ve been wondering, the vertical prompt. Ask #prompt-engineering

[wintry dune]

I have the same issue, even when you specify vertical some of the images come out horizontal, these are from the same batch of 4

[nova crystal]

got really good ones

[agile peak]

What's the best resolution settings for ChatGPT able to get the same quality as bing?

[tall patio]

May I have a suggestion to have a comic contest based solely on Dall-e 3?

[wintry dune]

By settings do you mean putting in stuff like “16k ultra-resolution quality”

[tall patio]

1-3 pages

[agile peak]

It works differently in ChatGPT isn't? If you tell it to adjust resolution it will change the orientation of images. Instead of the quality of images.

This is from ChatGPT but the lighting and quality is still far from Bing.

This from Bing. I am using same prompt with retro and fluorescent lightings.. The previous one was too much lmao

[wintry dune]

I’ve been trying to figure it out but I’ve gotten way higher quality images on ChatGPT, since I made it write things like “portrayed in staggering supremely outstanding 16k ultra-resolution hyper-detailed” and if you keep adding words like that it gets better up to a point lol

[agile peak]

Haha 😂 you just like me fr. I think I am starting to understand how dalle in ChatGPT work - it always starts with basic setting by default however it up to us to increase the amount of details, lighting, shadow, quality, etc.

[lyric flower]

hello my friends i have a question
why i have a impression that the image ia of bing is better than the dall 3 of chat gpt ?
like look
with the same prombt :

[wooden grail]

dalle in chatgpt is lightyears better than the other dalle3. especially with words

[agile peak]

By the way your option did not work for me.

[agile peak]

Definitely need to exploring it. Chat GPT also made me learning more about linguistics than anything.

[agile peak]

Same question like mine earlier. Turned out ChatGPT use more complex wordings for image generation and we have to be carefully choose each word for the prompt, in comparison to Bing.

[lyric flower]

ok ok thx

[agile peak]

You can ask ChatGPT after first generated images and discuss with it to improve your prompt.

[lyric flower]

yeah thx i do that

and a other question

sometimes he tells me he can't create a public figure but sometimes he does?

[agile peak]

Kind of wish there's an image uploading in dalle. So that ChatGPT can copy from it.

[wintry dune]

Well I’m not actually sure if my images are more than 1024x1024, I was talking about how using that phrase makes the picture look better in other ways. I think it would cost too much for them if they actually allowed people to make super high resolution images

[agile peak]

Yes. Copyright issues, you can use the words like "a figure resemblance of lenin" as alternative way.

[lyric flower]

Yes but what's weird is that sometimes it recreates the person exactly while other times it tells me that it's not possible

[neon sequoia]

I’ve also noticed that asking it for Sonic the hedgehog will tell you that it can’t (which I understand) but then make actual Sonic the hedgehog in scenes when I just ask it for a hedgehog doing something a person would do, hah

Things like that are a little inconsistent

[viral delta]

My friends and I have mastered using RAG with data (json, csv) and are now looking into fine-tuning our own model for production. We're currently using OpenAI, LangChain, and embeddings. Can anyone recommend guides on best practices for LLM architecture with NLP, and essential components for a robust system?

[agile peak]

This is same image show from before to after I asked ChatGPT to increase the lighting. Turned out there's more than one way to improve lighting such as "Control the spread" and "Diffuse the lighting" -- so using improve lighting will only make it brighter and eventually unrealistic.

Context

[agile peak]

Yeah. I think I said to ChatGPT in a different context should have asked before I got rate limited 😂

[wanton hatch]

Do you get wrong 9:16 images that are 16:9 landscape images rotated into 9:16?

[paper jolt]

I've seen some instances of that in this server but never happened to me

Also it's technically 4:7

[agile peak]

Happened to me. Pretty normal.

[wanton hatch]

:\

[hollow berry]

I was able to get this one earlier

[marsh cobalt]

As others have said, it seems to be pretty common as I also can't get it to properly do any kind of portrait image. I recall seeing some bug report filled out somewhere on this discord citing this, too.

[wanton hatch]

It's really bugged the portrait aspect ratio. Seems that now it can't render it

[earnest flame]

Best work around I've found is to reword the prompt so that a reference to standing is mentioned sooner.