#codex-discussions
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i'd think every line is reviewed by a person
u gotta be stupid to fork the leaked claude src code
openai please say the magic words, please keep 2x permanent
or maybe 4x
anthropic increases usage based on model drops
its about to be
Wait till it's gone i think it's up till the 2nd.
Who lobotomised the GPT models? Suddenyl they're all being lazy arseholes
Oh good they got some more funding they should phaze us out of 2x slowly
they folding code reviews into main usage and dropping back double usage, next will be dropping spark off the usage model etc etc
$122B rased give us codex 10X usage for the next 100 years 😭
hopefully we see something good out of turboquant
Is there no way to set the subagent model in the config.toml?!
I'm trying to use gpt-5.4-mini for subagents..
did you ask 5.4 about it? because it's probably making up the answer
Are you kidding me? I had full 100% 5h limit and weekly limit 10 minutes ago, and all my 5 hour limit went to zero and my weekly to 70%
How is that even possible?
Yeah so annoying
Do we get a usage refund now or have to wait?
yes i asked it 🙃
use orch systems
if you facing usage drainage, use orch systems like ruflo for context management and offloading light tasks
has a higher success rate
and cuts usage by like 30-50% in my cases
Starting a new Codex in VS Code chat, asking it to read all relevant docs. Now I can resume work on the code. 😄
I read the required docs, benchmark-store files, and maintained PowerPacer.* scripts, then verified the live package state against the code.
Somewhere around 500k the behavior starts to become more erratic, though, and around 700k is becomes mostly useless. So the 1M context window is never fully usable anyway.
codex always tries to steel man keeping stuff and adding complexity
Thx 🙏🏻
Codex wants to support the legacy API for the downstream users
who don't exist 🙃
Lmao
not even that just edge cases that dont matter
I worked out to tell it to steel man the removal
I wouldn't mind compacting or older "memory" getting lost. But I repeatedly reach a point where even the most current chat input isn't answered sensible anymore. Like GPT not looking at a file I just uploaded and then stating old numbers instead of new ones. Or it outright stating that I didn't upload anything until I question that answer.
It really becomes unable to even handle new chat input at one point. I also had multiple instances where it repeated an older answer to my new chat input, ignoring what I just wrote. So it doesn't lose old data, it loses new data right away instead.
is there a 1 million context window?
hello
I just posted the corresponding screenshot. So at least theoretically, yes.
hello
You set it via config.toml.
Oh right i had no idea, i guess they limit it to the context they think performs well
hello
4 small-medium tasks done with the use of subagents (yesterday) vs 25 big tasks done without subagents (today). Lesson learned: subagents should be used only when the task really requires their help
Straight from the model's mouth!! What do you all think? I looked into some of the risk with connecting third party plugins -- the bit about sharing recent "context and intent" should raise caution for any businesses or entrepreneurs because the ambiguity of what constitutes these terms 'context and intent' is extremely flexible and thus as a means of consumer right and protection, it may fall short here. What do you all think?
Imagine you are using Codex to roll out your new FinTech related tool. Oops, Codex just shared all your business strategy and plans in an attempt to "help Stripe perform", all because you were recently discussing these subjects and they got categorized as "context and intent".
Curious to hear everyone's thoughts on this -- including the mods!
gpt 5.4 is like both so good and so bad, it keeps hallucinating frontend requests, but will go on and create ground breaking discoveries in the backend
probably not going to open a pdf from a random discord chat o.0
let me ask chatgpt if i should do it and then put the answer in a pdf and paste it in here
chatgpt down?
I got these suckas so dialed in they dont even listen to me anymore 😂
classic
If bro can miss-understand bro will miss-understand
It's like an internal directive
i hope nothing possesses openai to increase the price of their next models
dude 2$ and 10$ was enough
uggghhh and the crappy cost increase for going over 200k tokens
i wonder if the have a ten trillion param model in the works like anthropic
This is pretty awesome. 5.4 knows if a message is not prefixed with [End of Turn], [Approval Request] or [Some-Agent-Name] it's a user message, but they've been running for so long they just act like user messages are the devil 😈 set in their goal of building the perfect software. They will not rest until the whole thing is built and perfected
Gotta have the authority to talk to these digital folks
damn, plus plan is definitly not enaugh for developer task
the 7 week limits can be used up in just only one days
anyone know for the claude code codex plugin how you would run on fast mode? I think it doesn't have the option, I guess this is something that can be turned on with ~/.codex/config ?
excuse me sir, is that Codex on an iOS mobile application?! 👀 🔥
and does it sync with your desktop chat sessions
so you can continue them when you're on the go ?!
shut_up_and_take_my_money.gif
i mean i like chillin in the couch while the robots are killin it
idk why Codex team is not making mobile handoff natively part of Codex already
a bridge server that caches messages and brokers communication makes it all possible
ya i made one of those, but posting to the app store is soo annoying 😩
and i made it with Expo so I have to deal with all the development server / expo app bs
the only concession i made is I do not use Apple’s network stack. they impose an arbitrary 1MB websocket limit that I discovered the hard way.
Codex sends huge websockets
ya prolly want the bridge server to only show latest N messages in a thread
and don't need to send all the response output of a command / tool call
bad for battery life + network usage
it shows 50 messages, but optionally can read the entire chat history
And does it support $skills?
plan mode, model switching, and reasoning level?
it supports all but plan mode. Skills are a must, certain roles have model and reasoning. most of em 5.4 medium and 5.4-mini high. but plan mode is for me
I installed fedora....... I did this all night...
cool
once i got a mac i never looked at windows again
good 4 u
skills?
I dont use too many tbh
just like
web design
i kept a gaming pc for a while, but then i replaced gaming with claude code and codex o.0
sold the gaming pc before the ram hit a high
is it all local data or do you run a server?
robdex orchestrator skill
I forgot u have like 20 million agents
I have prompt optimizer skill
web design skill
and the default codex skills
idk
all the github skills
imagegen
most of my skills are topical
I feel you dont need that many
I should probably remove some of them
I dont need imagegen
just context bloat
thats their communication system, so they can coordinate with each other. The name is misleading
ah ic
do you just have like
a markdown file
that they write to
or is it something special
The orchestrator is the memory system. Workers do their work and get archived
(i have never done agent orchestration b4)
seems like it would be a mess to me
to have multiple llms touching the same part of a project
codex has openai.yaml you can set like this so the front matter is excluded from the context and they are only manually invokable.
policy:
allow_implicit_invocation: false
yeah I know
but sometimes I dont ask for it to use X skill
and I just want it to be able to call it on its own
right but you said about context bloat
yes
like everything
its a balance
oh wait is that for individual skills
I might have to do that
im a lil slow
yeah but this wont be in the context so you can have your cake and eat it too
yeah ahha
anyone knows how to fix this. im upgrading from plus to pro but i can't get it approved.
the support is useless as well. and i know it's not to do with my card (i tried 2 cards)
are you sure about that
get a third card
The orchestrator keeps them from cross cutting edits. The workers have their slice and thats their entire life. QA pilots the apps in a simulator and report bugs, the orchestrator spawns agents in response to the bugs and aggressively reviews their work
I just speak with the orchestrator
ah ic makes some sense
ill try it 😂
but how much does it cost tho
its dialed in for efficiency
Do you just install the app via xcode?
Yeah i have some entitlements and capabilities that Apple does not like on the app store so i go directly from Xcode
ong i hate apple
apple is such an opp
but I still use iphone
im just complaining really
the app store restrictions SUCK so bad
it grows on you lol I love Linux but I also like a machine that has good battery life and stuff so mac is a good alternative
If I put a config.toml that configures access to my app's MCP server will the Codex Cloud agent use it?
Or will only the local CLI use it?
It would be exceptionally useful for Codex in the cloud to be able to access my MCP server that exposes database schema details and RPC reflection metadata.
Currently, I'm using Claude for planning because it is easy to configure this in the Claude desktop client
back here .. cc got me rekt ..
Useless Dev hey bud haha
long time haha
RIght?
yes horrible
i used /resume .. 4k tokens used 13% of my session
unbelievable .. its like i have a 20 usd sub ..
one member said its like 100->20 .. 200->100
and codex fixing so much code issues i had with opus too
i hope openai releases a 100 usd sub ..
Codex some else’s computer Cloud is only able to use tools inside the repository
I mean codex sub is about to get nuked
so like
the halvening
istg
gpt 5.4 is TRYING to ragebait me
why does it not
read the damn files
Ok, so if you tell it specifically to connect to an MCP server in Codex Cloud it will try. I think I just need to correct my token auth flow to handle it.
This won't work in this particular scenario, but I ran a few more additional prompts and it definitely will use a configured MCP server in the Codex Cloud. I got it a step closer, but I might need to adjust my auth flow to use a true bearer token, currently my auth flow is set up to require interactive access token from Microsoft OAuth provider.
In effect, it's basically saying if I turn on DCR it will just work.
happy reset
the codex team are amazing, they didn't have to reset but they did so for two reasons 👍
wdym fraudulent
Times of generous codex are over and now we increasingly getting thowards claude treatment?
well we don't know what will happen on or just after April 2nd. There's changes to the Pro plan in the pipeline, just hidden right now. Pro 5x (new $100/mo plan) and Pro 20x (replaces current Pro). If Plus's quota goes back to what it originally was and they release the new Pro plans then Pro 20x should effectively be like the bonus 2x rate wasn't turned off
can you s t f. u?
the amount of b. itching in "llm" community is insane.
exactly the kind of behaviour i expected of someone like you
Can someone please ban this toxic guy
they havent rugpulled anyone you get insane usage forf 200$ month and if you cant make more than 200$ from the usage you get then thats on you
earn money with it and buy more subs to make more money. its not a charity
codex team have not done a single thing sketchy
also evading potential automod filters (such as bad language potentially) could land you in hot water, see rule 10 #server-rules
yes i did and the mods here are not anthropic mods. they agree, dont you think they get sick and tired of everyone being so insanely ungrateful and entitled?
I love it! Thank you codex, now I can keep building!'
I felt rate limit consumed faster then before this week. But happy reset!
@boreal holly turns out gpt 5.4 has a 92k rolling window context, so its best to compress at 80k if you have that setup
holy another reset
is nano any good? as in, usuable as a daily driver?
depends what you want from it
Nice! Just noticed
getting these since yesterday, what does it mean?
I find you can ask codex to diagnose issues with MCP servers and tell you more information. Hell, I have had it build brand new MCP servers for systems where I knew I had API access just by asking it to. It should be able to explain it.
hmm, usage bonus is over? burn seems 2x faster
seems fine here at the moment
you have codex cli?
using a different harness currently
Anyone else finds 5.3-codex way more reliable than 5.4
Especially when it comes to frontend
how is it for front end been struggling with 5.4
It just doesnt break the frontend, usually when I task it to work on some frontend task the frontend is never broken, just exactly what I asked it to do without any flaws
On 5.4 I always get broken, hallucinated or non-functioning components
5.4 for my projects at least is more reliable on frontend (if we ignore design)
you're doing JS?
I'm using CODEX CLI with model 5.4 high in FAST mode in windows WSL, and I'm getting a lot of "fail to apply patch". Almost all file patch execution attempts are failing and the CODEX is going to go back to Python to try to edit files. Anyone else getting the same error?
Nano is really good at these things (in terms of cost):
- Classification: Can read large bodies of text and classify it quickly and fairly accurately (e.g. is this command destructive or safe?
rm -rf /"destructive"). - Structured Outputs: Pairs with classification - force the model to respond with an enumerated and finite set of values
- Routing: Can determine complexity of a request and upgrade conversation to a smarter model
I've used it for these things with pretty good results. But for actual coding tasks, it very quickly degrades in performance/accuracy. In the app I'm building, I use nano until the user asks for something with medium or high complexity and then it upgrades the conversation. It also detects whether the user is asking for something relevant (e.g. business or just messing around) and downgrades the conversation if it detects chit-chat. For this it works extremely well 🙂 but for coding I think 5.4-mini is legitimately powerful.
5.4 mini is only useful for good prompters though
I find 5.4 mini really tries to get away without reading the codebase
and it always fails when it tries not to read the codebase
much more than even 5.4 or 5.3 codex
5.2 my god always reads 10 trillion files before CONSIDERING to start
not saying youre wrong of course
5.4 mini can code
im just saying for the average user
who isn't all that great at prompting
its not the best choice
I think if you really want something done right and you dont know how to prompt the order is
5.2 > 5.3 codex > 5.4 > 5.4 mini
maybe switch 5.4 and 5.3 codex depending on what youre doing
I don't make 5.4 mini navigate the whole codebase. 5.4 pieces together the work and passes it down to 5.4-mini with enough detail to carry out implementation. If you tell 5.4-mini where to look beforehand it does a fine job. Sounds wasteful to make 5.4 navigate, but a majority of the quota gets burned up on output tokens and tool call outputs as input. Navigation is relatively cheap, and keeping the smart model as a coherent navigator while the junior model carries out guided implementation keeps the 5.4 agent from degrading as fast
robert, you and another mentioned an orchestrator setup. is this just done through agent files in codex?
Yeah you can do it with multi_agent=true and setting up agent profiles. But then the agents that get spawned are "sub agents" owned by the parent agent. I have mine set up as "peer agents", normal threads, and give them a tool to pass messages to each other
Is there any fix or solution to avoid having a very laggy Windows Codex App please?
I am getting burnt pretty hard by https://github.com/openai/codex/issues/13762 on Windows Codex using WSL integration. The worktree integration is nice but a bit silly it clones to a windows mount...
Same for me, no matter how I tried to fix it, it still goes through Windows to create worktrees
I tried modifying the environment.toml in .codex-app/environments in WSL2
but no luck on that
my current fix is i created a symlink between /mnt/c/..../.codex/worktrees onto the wsl filesystem
2 prompts
Also I don't think git folders on Windows is good
the agent is fine with it, but the UI gets buggy as it can't see the folder
so I might avoid that, but didn't research further than that
Yeah it screws with permissions and bitflags on the file
Yeah
it's very frustrating
🥲
and can't even fix it afaik as it's set app side
do you have a laggy app as well? @odd fog
sometimes
Mine is stuttering/lagging periodically, the cursor is laggy af
I don't understand where it's coming from, no huge RAM usage, GPU or CPU as well
You could use Mutagen
I don't think that would help? It's codex app that is trying very hard to write to the windows directories
and you just lose unix-file information when writing to the windows filesystem
Right, and with Mutagen you can restore the file permissions, users, and groups. Also if you turn core.filemode=false then git will ignore the "windows drive -> all files 777" permission stuff
core filemode could be a good shout
But the path of the worktree is being set to the /mnt/c so unless i redo the mount entirely that would be quite hard to inject mutagen in?
I mean like, on Windows you set it up so that C drive worktree folder Mutagen syncs everything except for .git back into WSL, and you can set directories to 755 and files to 644. That way the agents are writing to files inside the WSL container, and mutagen pulls those changes back into the c drive worktree. That keeps the agents doing their apply_patch edits and stuff on real unix files inside WSL with proper permissions. And with code.filemode=false git wont care about file permission changes
The only thing idk about is if Codex app sets their CWD to the worktree on the windows drive. That might be the only blocker with that setup (sandbox would scope to windows mount)
Yeah codex app is very stubborn on setting cwd
Is anyone using Cursor CLI through Codex? I’m curious if I should set up the Cursor CLI as some kind of subagent in the Codex config or make a skill
as usual, thanks to whoever or however my weekly tokens on plus were reset to 100% unexpectedly early. 👍
Does anyone know when the 2X rate limits end exactly?
Like what time of day on April 2nd?
was there usage reset?
Hi guys, I found a shell-init inconsistency between Codex and Claude on zsh that breaks command aliases/functions set in ~/.zshrc.
On my machine, both report /usr/bin/zsh for echo $0, but the shell flags differ:
Codex: echo $- → 569X
Claude: echo $- → 569JNRXghkl
This causes aliases to be broken, in Codex:
type gh
# gh is /usr/bin/gh
In Claude:
type gh
# gh is an alias for op plugin run -- gh
My gh alias is defined in ~/.zshrc via 1Password shell plugin setup. Claude picks it up, but Codex does not.
I'm on linux and installed codex via npm.
interesting
guys do you prefer playwright mcp or playwright cli?
anyone seeing this error a lot on the new TUI version ?
on Linux
Hi
What is that
ooh why is that?
i remember hearing few weeks back that gpt 5.3 codex spark would release to plus users
i don't think that ever happened
have you tried it for playwright?
So an MCP injects context for how to use it into every conversation. Let's say you are using playwright for one task, then you need to switch to another where you aren't going to be using playwright. Codex still recieves instructions for how to use playwright, even if it isn't going to use it. With a CLI you can create a Skill for how to use it, then the skill only gets calls when you say "Do this with playwright", then Codex knows how to use it and how you want it used.
The skill also injects some context, but it is much much much lighter than any MCP.
Try github cli vs mcp, and watch your tokens get evaporated
anthropic limits the performance of claude code depending on which plan you are on I just found out from the src code
how will everyone cope with the sudoku of 2x tomorrow
should we form a self-help group and talk it through
Hey guys, do you think we'll really stop not having the x2 anymore tomorrow ? I really feel the usage will go down really quickly
it feels ok, it's to not use too much tokens with a little plans
I think they will indeed be removed, but immediately a $100 plan pops up with 5x. I just hope they don‘t forget about the poor business plan users that do not qualify for enterprise but can‘t have individual monthly based subs due to company policy (only tenant / seat billing on a yearly cycle).
do codex shell tool calls do not inherit the user's real terminal auth/session context?
yes but only if its transparent that lesser plan levels actaully performe worse, mybe it is transparent and they say that idk
I usually use codex for small tweaks, I got it to write an entire application last night ... if I kill this session and restart it does it just forget our old conversation or what? I'm really not a fan of living in the terminal like this
you can resume the conversation via codex resume
and it should also appear in the conversation history in app/extension
It's not a surprise they arent being transparent. They never have been.
I want to give it an image of how I want the page laid out and apparently you do that with codex -i
I can't use the app, this is all cli
you can paste images in the cli
... how?
ctrl+v
yes but how, like what do you paste? Path to a file?
you paste the entire image
but its all ascii
codex. The whole thing is just ascii
did you try?
yes path to a file will work too.. but just copy/paste the image works
like I said, I'm really not a fan of being stuck in the terminal
dont worry, it will appear as [Image #1] but codex will realize its an image
ok that is really freakin weird lol. I wish I could use the app 🙁
you can try ide extension if you really dont want to use the terminal but cant use the app
I just thought I'd randomly vibe code up an entire application. As you do
on next updates will be also available in the app as in claude where they have in app all.. chat / cowork / code
do we know what time today the x2 rate limits end?
Youre going to build your own codex ui?
hah no, just a small application. It did a pretty good job of what it did so far, if you like somewhat teal buttons
depends what the buttons do 😁
like all of them, its used teal for save/add buttons and the highlight colour on menus
failed to find what I wanted online, thought screw this its 2026 I'll get codex to do all of it
Can I run codex on a remote SSH target? I want to deploy to a VPS but it kinda sucks losing codexs ability to work on the code.
can you disable hook messages?
is 4bln tokens in 30 days healthy usage or am i doomed
Is Codex still available for Free tier?
codex keeps creating an empty .codex file idk why
you mean .codex/ folder?
Is anyone experiencing hitting their rate limits faster with codex ?
is codex acting strange for anyone else
peter steinberger gets that much in a few minutes dude
you need to pump more slop
ya we need another month of 2X rate limits
cuz this is ridiculous!
I feel like the usage is draining after this morning reset
2x rate limit ended today
is codex down
tomorrow night
Yo I thought I was crazy like both gpt and api accounts moving crazy
not todday
I thought it was the 2nd, who knows what timezone. Its afternoon april 2 for me
I'm just over here testing writing an entire application without touching the code myself. Going good so far
yes I've noticed, chatgpt always has the day wrong. Wouldn't kill them to add localisation
chatgpt got the day wrong YET AGAIN today so that reminded me to tell codex to put configurable timezone in this app I'm making it write. Or I'm gonna be disappointed when I put it on a server that's running at UTC 0
I’m in London it’s 2nd April and I’m hitting rate limits
kimi devs have a new way to manage attention, looks like it could increase context stability. Lots of big steps forward coming out lately
how long does the go plan $8/month last in codex?
anyone else experiencing apply patch tool errors in new Codex version?
I'm on Linux
any unity devs using codex? how's your experience so far?
I'm using codex $20 (USD) plan, and it offers basically as much as the competition's $200 plan
not even close tbh
depends on the project
tokens are tokens
I like your new profile pic
Ive always been bananaman :p
By the way codex still lit ? Vs cc ? Used yesterday without any limits …cc hitting non stop
Not the lego versión
codex is still pretty good, they both have their problems
Agree! Using both right now. Cc for init , codex for clean up and continuation
Cc opus has always missing stuff .. do not follow instructions etc
yeah, cc tries to skimp and skirt the work a lot more
im trying it out lol. ive worked on other projects with codex and they were awesome. wanted to explore unity too
did they reset limits?
it resets itself every 5 hours and every week
yeah the model is incredibly smart but has a real attention problem, the leaks prove it. Every single turn claude code injects the CLAUDE.md.
I wonder if they do the same thing with gpt models
In a normal ongoing Codex session, it is left at the top of the conversation history rather than freshly re-injected on every new user turn.
(chatgpt given the codex repo, also the official docs corroborate that)
i love how vague i can be in a prompt and the codex desktop app jsut gets it
it is re-injected during compaction but that's because the entire context is rebuilt which is fair
No, an empty file
where is the file?
in my project root directory
anyone know which plugin we have to use inside claude code so it can run codex/chatgpt inside it?
Interesting. I just got codex to write me an entire app. Token usage: total=897,183 input=823,967 (+ 12,276,096 cached) output=73,216 (reasoning 6,704)
chatgopt 5.4?
yeah
did the whole thing in one session so that was what i got when I closed codex
Anyone notice how codex superbowl stuff has had no update
Have you experienced malicious command from bitdefender if you use codex ? or R0? Should we treat those as a necessity or can it be better ? Someone expect more browser_container (e.g. dart) in codex for screenshots ?
are the 2x usage limits gone now?
It was mixed in 1
Task and review are in the same count
meaning they both count towards the same limits now? What about the 2x rate limits? Are those still in place?
Yes, 2x is replaced by that, If you use code review you most likely won't experience it
Cna you explain this Task and review are in the same count?
I think i misunderstand what is going on
If the review do the work you don't do before then you can keep it like that
uh i can't understand this o.0
code review bar is for github review
I think they are folding that into normal usage right?
How to use this code review in codex app ?
It can only be used inside browser codex ?
It's for github, you setup github with codex and then it reviews prs. But i think they are folding that usage into the normal limit soon anyway.
man i really hope $100 plans come out after 2x finishes
$200 is too much and i don't need that much =/
I think that is kind of the idea of the pricing gap
there were some leaks that showed $100 plan floating around. so i think it's coming, just a matter of when
sh*tification is always the path forward
it moves fast though, there is lots of progress in performance and efficiency
is anyone else getting "Selected model is at capacity. Please try a different model."
Yes i hope after 2x ends. Pro 5x for $100, pro 20x for $200 last i checked. Depends if plus goes back to original limits, if it does then 20x will feel like 2x didn't get turned off
Yeah I hope so. Otherwise it'll be another month of 2 accounts and swapping between them. Rather the $100 5x for laziness sake lol
My usage limit was full 5 minutes ago, did 1 task and its all gone and my weekly is down to 40%
Are you serious? Lmao
Who is going to fix that?
@robust lintel
@winged ore
This is just theft at this point
i would very much appreicate a 100-buck plan tbh
Codex VS code extension KO ?
Are they really going down the Claude route, where they make their affordable plans significantly worse, in order to push people towards the more expensive option? That surely is one way to encourage account sharing.
only way we'll know for sure is what happens after 2x ends and when the new plans release, but the hidden slider and such on the plans page is Pro 5x and Pro 20x
my hope is that Plus will go back to near enough or exactly at its original limits for the quota, in which case Pro 5x essentially nearly becomes what Pro $200 was at 1x bonus rate, while Pro 20x which replaces the original Pro $200 (at 6x~) will feel like 2x wasn't turned off
real, i don't know either, what I'm sure is even with 20X plan the quality of the model often changes without any transparency (for claude, not codex)
I hope
if the monthly model cycle is continuing, we might see spud today, if not, next week I guess 😛
they're probably also waiting for Anthropic though
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uhh guys, codex is down?
its working for me
Is Claude Code still better than Codex?
for features, well, it has more hook coverage, perhaps a slightly nicer looking TUI, an experimental teams feature, probably missed a few things which would be nice to have in Codex CLI at some point as I don't really use CC. Codex CLI however has what's needed pretty much, just improved hook coverage would be nice to see soon. Codex CLI's code is also far more polished compared to Claude Code's code (the leaked code that is)
claude code is better if you hate your money or if you need heavy frontend design
Codex is better at code. Claude forgets too soon, so you have to spend a lot of time and effort enforcing the following of instructions. Codex doesnt forget like that.
is 2x gone yet
hope so, because usage burn at least feels 2x faster,
code review is still showing in the dashboard
What about the usage limit?
usage on the top plan is similar for code alone, but you get unlimited image gen, unlimited gpt chat, more model choices, codex app, gpt-pro access, weekly spark usage above normal usage.
Claude is better at research, documentation, and writing imo. but you have to pay for it in your token allocation
But is the coding limit much higher than Claude?
If you were to us claude for only coding and codex for only coding i think it feels about the same amount. BUT thats just my exp, nothing definitive. codex also has a github code review usage. They did say they were folding that into normal usage though.
They havent done it yet
I feel like codex limits are consuming fassst
is it the 2x over?
I think codex should keep 2x limit as defaults 
I think they should replace the 2x by 4x then we're closer to where we have to be again
I wonder what would happen if they made a $999 unlimited tier
any idea what "other" here is? I have only codex cli
or their new version is logging stuff wrong
Codex's current usage limits are far superior compared to Claude's current usage limits, well, even on x1 rates I imagine it's still going to be superior 😂
one other nice thing is that Codex and ChatGPT have separate quotas
hopefully we'll have a nice surprise today, not a nasty shock 😛
they'd probably end up chasing fradulent accounts if it was truly unlimited
Codex doesnt forget like that.
GPT 5.4 wuld like a word with you
Yeah people could infinitely resell the capacity it would create a black market for tokens 😬
Is it also that bad if you use Claude with auto dream and plugins like everything on GitHub?
Only add a rust library for this existing TS library
agent decides to not follow this, and actually add something extre that was never asked for
gpt 5.2 doesn't do that
gpt 5.4 is an arsehole
😍
what is that message?
Telling me gpt-5.4 is at capacity in Codex
area? Never seen that message in EU
UK
it can be 'at capacity'? 😮
Codex 5.4 is unusable with anything like a large codebase. It goes one step forward, four steps back. It is so frustrating. It breaks the last thing it fixed when fixing something else. Its like it has amnesia.
what thinking are you using, do you have memories enabled?
I haven't seen that message yet but my guess is that many are making the most of the bonus rate which ends today
Ignore my last message - I misread yours
got this error yesterday i'm in eu
you prefer which model for large codebase ?
maybe you fed it too much context
do you reckon they'll launch the $100 plan today to coincide with that? it seems plausible since it sounds like the new model is coming next week
I'm hoping so, otherwise this week could be a bit of a dull week 😛
New model?
"Spud"
tl;dr = Greg has said in an interview it's a new pre-train and it's coming, Tibo tweeted a hint that something big is coming next week that will increase Codex user growth
What do you think about Claude Code and Codex?
I've never used Claude Code, so don't know
Are you happy with Codex?
sure
this is hilarious, it's running live too https://iscodexgoodatfrontendyet.com
5.4 will never make decent frontend design, I think I have wasted 20 days trying to make it but it's just impossible
codex 5.3 was pretty good at recreating an html site to a custom wordpress theme
but coming up with a design from scratch? forget about it
like yeah if you copy an existing design it will do it, but if you want a unique design it's just a dead end
just an army of lists and cards
if I see this color I reflexively gag now
whats your guys main coding model been switching been 5.4 high and xhigh and cant seem to justify the thinking between high and xhigh
also seen some people still on 5.3 codex
I very, very rarely use xhigh
high 90% time, if stuck then try codex 5.3 or 5.4 xhigh
yeah been seeing that pattern hm okok
Find I get better results instead of using xhigh when it's stuck, handing off to another model to look at
i stay with low until a bug loop
main pattern i see is xhigh seems to overthink and trip on itself
nested and nested and nested
and that
have you tried using Impeccable or Taste skills? high reasoning effort
that's unfortunate
I've got a theory we are getting 5.5 today for Codex. The last releases have been on the 5th of the month, the 5th is a Sunday, and today the 2x limit ends.
I don't think we are getting a new model this month, we just got 5.4 and both labs are working on something "big" which should take a couple more weeks at least for RL
i think they are waiting to match claude release
I'm pretty sure they mentioned doing monthly releases for models.
probably next week based on what tibo said
source?
this
yeah while it would be nice if the model arrived today, I don't think it will. Hoping instead that the new Pro plans will be released at the very least, curious how 5x and 20x will actually be
They're going to change pro plans?
yeah, there's a hidden slider on the plans page, on Pro specifically, which says 5x and 20x. 5x will be $100, 20x will be $200. There's also hidden mentions of these in the javascript too
is pro plan already 20x?
they nerfed 5hr limits?
Pro $200/mo is currently about 6x~
so, there's two possibilities:
a) If they return Plus back to the original quota limits then Pro 20x will feel like the 2x bonus is still ongoing
b) If they reduce Plus's quota limits compared to what they originally were on x1 then Pro 20x won't necessarily feel like the bonus 2x is ongoing
so we need to wait and see what happens
voice input has been failing/timing out a lot today
unsure if client or server issue with whisper
has codex performance dropped recently?
how do you know
vibes
that's more of an architecture and planning problem
how do you recommend people experiencing this issue can resolve it ?
Well they're making one pricing change today at least... https://openai.com/index/codex-flexible-pricing-for-teams/
I dont know the specific problem they are encountering, but if you arent getting good results on a large code base it probably means the architecture is poorly designed. I'm using it with an ~2m loc project that is as easy to work with as a 20k loc project. Why? rust actor model. No state problems, no context bloat issues, its like working on individual small projects
do you find that Codex uses like 30-40% context to even understand the current implementation?
my point is it shouldnt with good architecture b/c there are almost never any global changes
you are dealing with one actor + potentially one hop away actors that's it
have you tried a graph / semantic view/mcp?
that can help with messy architecture to try to simplify/clean it up you just build the nodes and lines of what talks to what and then you can optimize
i have a Deepwiki index of my codebase, which has worked well actually
i think they use semantic search
is there a good public example of this i can see for reference?
well it depends on the language used
im using Rust ya
a good skill/agents.md fixes this
lemme find it, sec
try this:
https://github.com/jonmmease/jons-mcp-rust-analyzer
@cyan wing I'll release the actor model I'm working in a few weeks I'll let you know. I highly recommend using it, it will change your life 🙂
I buid everything using it now
Sickk thank you, much needed!
I have codex splitting out my ~300k loc repo into separate crates rn for better discovery / decoupling
yeah there will jsut be one time refactoring/migration pain but will be well worth it. then you basically have a set of re-usable actors that are like self contained apps with their own state. your error rate will drop to near zero, no locking issues, etc, its literally magic
yo i thought this** (INCREDIBLY USEFUL AND BETTER THAN YOUR COMPETITORS)** code review bucket with 53% was going away 2 days ago? any one know when its really leaving? shockingly internet searches not helping
wow tokens are being eaten like crazy
Does anyone else call GPT Geppetto?
better model accuracy, lower context use, and faster code changes?!
sign me up!
HI, nice to meet you
Still hoping for pro 5x and 20x today but I have a feeling next week earliest now
it is hard to imagine that they will not acknowledge the end of the 2 months of 2x rate limits today in any way at all
Rohan on X at least said something about it being a war room about ChatGPT/Codex pricing changes or something, glimpsed a post earlier at least, so maybe it's still happening today
@ivory zodiac seems to agree
I agree. kinda concerning actually
oh wow, I assume this is the post you meant, that seems to pretty much confirm it
very interesting, how old are the current price tiers now? since the launch of o1-pro? (excepting the Go tier)
not sure on age but certainly quite some time, and yes that's the one
bug..
the new gpt business plans are not what we wanted… we wanted a more expensive seat with higher codex limjts
I am having trouble getting .codex/rules/default.rules to do anything useful. I have massaged it in about 8 different ways, and I still have to approve every attempt to read anything. I wrote a helper function
"C:\Users\usx28880.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1"
and put variations of
prefix_rule(
pattern = [
"&",
"C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe",
"-File",
"C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1",
"-Path",
],
decision = "allow",
justification = "Allow the standard read-only helper for pulling a subset of a file.",
match = [
"& 'C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe' -File 'C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1' -Path 'src\StoreApp\StoreAppBaseContent\ViewModel\Managers\InteractivePrintPreviewSession.cs' -Skip 1 -First 950",
"& "C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe" -File "C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1" -Path "src\StoreApp\StoreAppBaseContent\ViewModel\Managers\InteractivePrintPreviewSession.cs" -Skip 1 -First 950",
"& 'C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe' -File 'C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1' -Path 'C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\rules\default.rules' -Skip 0 -First 260",
"& "C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe" -File "C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1" -Path "C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\rules\default.rules" -Skip 0 -First 260",
],
)
(with the "&", without the "&", with single quotes, double quotes, etc.)
but still it asks me for approval every time it needs to use my script to read part of a file.
the 2x limits were so good 😭
Must be an idiot but codex is totally unusable this cant be for real
No serious work can be done like 20 min some refactors -> wait 5 hourw
I understand it can become a bit more expensive but this is redicelous let them at lewst hive me credits till im
Internet millionaire then i gladly fork over 2500 a month
there's no way you get only 20 minutes out of plus sub
No im on a plus account using codex
disable fast mode, dont use xhigh
Guess thats the catch then they want me to upgrade to pro. Yup no fastmode and using medium
So they got me how much do u do on a pro subscription and anyone lnows if its tax deductable? Like in europe or it it like google ireland no tax deduction?🙏
codex features list | grep true
collaboration_modes removed true
enable_request_compression stable true
memories under development true
multi_agent stable true
personality stable true
shell_snapshot stable true
shell_tool stable true
skill_mcp_dependency_install stable true
sqlite removed true
steer removed true
tool_call_mcp_elicitation stable true
tool_suggest stable true
tui_app_server removed true
unified_exec stable true
Check what you have, here's mine
Ah good one im not behond desk but def no fast mode inteied that once no benefit to me
it was enabled by default on some update
Ok ill double check thank u. How much would u get out of it with peo its fair usage policy right?
it's confusing but I believe that the feature flag just enables the /fast command in the TUI, it doesn't actually enable fast mode
Whatnwcares me they can shut your account down no reason. No refund
of the 5 hour at least
my token usage reduced instnatly after I disabled it
youre not using enough 5.4 mini
interesting
I once did claude subscription last year claude totallu scked gemini same dont thrust them anymore codex is only option for me
I use both Claude and Codex together, Opus 4.6 does my planning, Codex in the Cloud does the actual code implementation.
I use ag and codex
Codex is very good at writing code, Claude is a bit better at planning becaues of larger contex, at least that's the feeling I get.
Claude is a lying ai agent outputting just crapp and never follows rules thrust gone maybe its better now
to be fair I have like 200 dollars of unused codex credits
@haughty plaza This is a fair observation, even in planning I constantly find it violating rules and suggesting anti-patterns. I just do extensive reviews to make sure these kinds of things are caught. I spent at least an hour on most prompts and results reviews.
What does fair usage means for u guys? How would that compare to a pro subscription of course i use the 5 accounts even though not allowrd
I upgraded to Max and have never hit any limits for the last two months I've been using it.
Yes its total headache it lief so many times to me i just wont soend a dollar on claude but anyone free to use it
Claude max?
I actually just spent several days writing new LLM guidance, which has helped a lot. (Yes, Claude Max)
Codex in the Cloud on the $20 plan I rarely use more than 15% of my tokens per week
well im only interested in codex pro but.. like said there policy if they deel anythijng wrong they block account gone 230 dollars nonway to contact them decently that is just why i used pro at least then the hit is only 140 ush
sooo youre not using codex
I ran 20 tabs working on 20 different repros tools researxh 5 saas business etc and that was just doable with 3x plus but now dunno how to ever finish mynstuff
Literally writes almost 100% of my code lol
Manually codijg is nonoption anymore
Yeah, I'm very single threaded.
Because of how unreliable the coding agents are still, this has only improved my workflows slightly.
I barely ever write code these days, occassional fix or quick edit faster than going through a prompt, but to be fair, I usually spen 90% of my time as a developer planning, not writing code.
So this improved my workflows a bit as it cut that 10% writing code out of the equasion.
I dont even rename folders or move files a prompt is faster but well the main question is if codex will atill be worth it now. I wonder if there is some docs on pro versus plus usage
if youre on the 20 dollar plan and only use 15% of your weekly tokens AND YOU ARE USING CODEX CLOUD you are not using codex often
Possibly, I generally run around 5-10 prompts a day, but given that it takes an hour to write a prompt and I don't code 24/7. If you're curious: https://github.com/elide-us/elideus-group/tree/test current stability branch progress. Project is not at all small, but this is also about 18 months of work.
and I have already used 5% of weekly quota
Yes and its terrible feels like 20x
guys I don't know why, last week I was using codex for everthing and I didn't remember if I reached the limit, but this week I run 3 commands and 80% of 5h limite over in 20minutes, something happen?
Must be the x2
half doesnt quite feel like half
I verified it before, and it is off
its really not, Just make a planning skill and you can make whatever kind of planning behavior you want. This is where gpt 5.4 is best. If you need inspiration check oh-my-codex deep interview
No, the quotas got halved today
• “Codex now uses x2 more” = the model (whatever “codex” refers to in your setup — probably the underlying code model or agent backend) now consumes twice as much of the limiting resource per minute of runtime.
• That limiting resource is almost always the thing your subscription/quota is measured in (tokens, compute credits, API calls, etc.).
• Your total budget for that resource hasn’t changed.
• So if the agent previously burned through the budget in 30 minutes, it will now burn through it twice as fast → 30 ÷ 2 = 15 minutes max runtime.
I have been using Codex for planning for the first 16 months of this project, only switched to Claude about 6 weeks ago, the results I am getting there are far better than the Codex plans. I did A-B comparisons. I might try it again, those tests were on 5.3.
To
Me
Status also feels off and way more then 2x
oh okay, I understand now, the quotas were 2x limite, and now it is the normaly, lol
Yes
bro, the normal is not too good, I need more money for pay the 200$ plan
Yes but claude code scks totally unreliable lying manipulating ai
yeah I mean I could see why you would say that, especially just comparing /plan vs cc plan mode, but definitely try your own skill. I felt the same way for a long time also
I will note that Codex does repeatedly introduce regressions into my RPC namespace due to a unique AST crawling quirk. Claude details it very clearly and explicitly and Codex still falls back to "correcting it" because it really hates making references and variables not the same term 🙂
Guess we need to buy a mac studio m5 at 5k and run opensource models
Shame they will never be as good
Actually not even using /plan mode. I just use Claude Chat, I tell it to read the documentation for the project and tell it what I'm trying to do. I did experiment with CC/plan yesterday, it was faster, I'm not sure it was better.
I wonder what advencements there are in opensource models havent looked into it laterly im on a macbook m1 def not able to run anything decent
I guess only same repro instructions and compare output but indont touch claude anymore
It's this, I basically had to beat Claude into submission to understand why this variable needs to be specifically 'module' but that it doesn't match the reference name. The app state has basically a registry of modules that are dynamically loaded on startup and registers them all by module name. Since that entire system is dynamic, there's no static code for the agent to undrstand why this variable mismatch is there.
I don't like AI touch my code directly, except for Codex. That is actually the only allowed pathway to prod.
Nobody soijg multiple saas startups af the same time with codex i must be insane running 20 tabs
Well rhat dream is over now
I wait a few days fhen see if pro would be an option be in the mercy of opensi account closure anythine they want and nonrefunds discussions possible
You can solve this with a topical skill
The same goes for the claude quirk, but it's not as relaiable as codex with skills so it will forget sometimes
For sure, I basically just wrote a document that details this repeatedly and tell the agent to read it all. Actually this detail is also in the AGENTS.md where relevant as well, which was odd that Codex missed it. I'm doing a consistency pass in the namespace now, looks like there are several pattern deviations, which explains why it might fail. If it catches one instance of a more typical pattern it will lean into that.
I noticed this as well it will lean into that. I was wondering why it kept defaulting to some function wrapper pattern instead of a class - it started doing it out of the blue. When i asked it it showed me the nearest pattern in the code base, which was also wrong. So letting that slip through can have it spread over time.
I was thinking i would wake up today to a nice shiny new spud
I'm running a new A-B test on Claude vs Codex now. The prompt is too long to share, but it's a consistentcy and pattern refactor, about 140 lines long
So far Codex produced a plan, Claude is still thinking on it, but Claude is also spending time reading the MCP server for schema reflection.
Codex 5 hours usage is insane it runs out in half of an hour😭
It didnt even finish half of the prompt 😂
damn 2x usage is noticably gone.
I might... consider switching back to Codex. I had Claude review the plan that Codex made and it did find an issue that Codex ignored, but it was a design issue on me. Otherwise Claude and Codex were in perfect alignment, but Codex did it about 3x faster... that's... appealing.
That being said, that was Claude Chat vs Codex Cloud
highly suggest using cli, I've tried 5.4 over API via cursor and others and the quality is different compared to codex cli
I don't allow AI to operate locally, in general, beyond just reading reference data.
I'm not sure I'd get any particular advantage out of that, my entire code build pipeline is set up in the Codex Cloud environment so it's working in a more realistic setting than my local system.
I mean unless you are shipping live doesnt matter if you break the bindings every now and then, codex usually corrects pretty well unless you ship multiple bad versions
5.4 very rarely makes regressions, only then when I usually leave something open to interpretation
This is all CICD live to test server
I do feature releases once feature/stability backlog sets are complete.
I literally just had Codex go through and correct 25 regressions it made earlier today lol
There are multiple notes in AGENTS and other documents calling out the pattern it broke 😉
idk, would have to see code, hard to guess blind
Oh, it's not a problem
Just observations, going quite well
This is just an A-B test betweel Claude and Codex on a pattern conformance task
Codex has been faster and similarly accurate, Claude noticed some details that violated the architecture that Codex missed.
They are all issues that could be fixed in subsequent reviews and tasks and don't break anything, so pretty minor.
I'm giving Codex the win on this round.
The main issue is that the objective here is that I get rid of this static RPC code that I do AST crawling on and instead generate the RPC typescript files from data in the database. The architectural violations come from logic in the service dispatcher. Which is what this is fixing, or trying to.
I've got the crawl populating the tables, making some additional enhancements to logging on the build generators to call out specifically found violations while crawling.
why cant codex rename its terminal?
is the x2 rate for codex gone?
im using 5.3 codex and it just feels better
i am on the plus plan and don't see codex 5.4
where is it?
damn i really feel that 2x drop off. my 5h limit taking a beating ha
Oh wow I just realized how much usage I'm consuming. I'm guessing it's the same for everyone? (because of the 2x thing)
I just ran out of my weekly limits on Plus... until Apr 8 ;`(
never ran into session limits at all
OK, I give up. VSCode Codex Extension returns this on prompts:
Your access token could not be refreshed because your refresh token was already used. Please log out and sign in again.
There is no "log out" or "sign in" feature after the extension is installed.
What's the magic key that unlocks the great door to the Holy Codex? 🙂
Looks like we'll be seeing reset again very soon lol.
I just setup codex-lb to balance my Plus account and Teams account. Works well 😮
There are known issues on GH related to the access token situation, but I'm not seeing anything yet that helps me. Output log for Codex shows:
[error] [CodexMcpConnection] cli: message="... WARN codex_app_server::message_processor: failed to force-refresh directory apps after experimental feature enablement: Request failed with status 401 Unauthorized: ... Provided authentication token is expired. Please try signing in again. ... code: token_expired
[error] [CodexMcpConnection] cli: message="... ERROR codex_login::auth::manager: Failed to refresh token: 401 Unauthorized
I'm not using MCP in this environment yet. 🙁
I don't know where it stores Codex access tokens or how it tries to refresh them.
I can go neanderthal on this and delete the extension and OpenAI folders to clear cache, but I'd rather not.
I'll continue to look at GH issues. 😢
Hmmm - I opened the CLI and it wanted to do an update. I did that and restarted. Then used the "/logout" command. Then restarted. On restart it needed a new login, launched the browser, did the login. Restarted CLI again and it worked. Then VSCode extension worked.
Solution to : "Your access token could not be refreshed because your refresh token was already used. Please log out and sign in again." 401 Unauthorized
Gpt 5.2 xhigh, I never understood how 5.3 and 5.4 can work for anyone, really.
I liked 5.3 codex high, 5.4 is kinda weird works in some very niche scenarios
I guess I must be doing something wrong because 5.4 works pretty much flawlessly
I'm like the one and only person maybe on the planet who experiences nothing but excellent performance with 5.4
If you give both the same task on a large codebase it should be that 5.4 consistently gives the wrong answer and 5.2 consistently gives the right answer. I can do that experiment all day long
Yeah, with just a couple exceptions, I've been continually impressed with 5.4.
Robert pointed to a page that describes nuances of how to work with 5.4. See OpenAI docs.
5.4 is highly effective, but its significant token usage causes the weekly limit to be reached too quickly
Turn off Fast processing and you'll reduce your token usage significantly.
It just doesn't gather enough context so it can't produce positive results that way I don't know how it could ever work.
sigh - I wrote a paper the other day about this very topic. I need to clean it up a bit and publish somewhere. It got too long with too much detail, which is kinda required for this deep topic. I'll see what I can do. Watch this space. 😉
na bro i love 5.4
Oh right, and 5.4-mini is also a great way to save tokens.
You have to give it a personality. Not necessarily in how it responds to you, but how it's supposed to think. For example I give mine "adversarial, pragmatic software engineer". If it has no personality then it will basically be a thoughtless task executor. Also give it an output contract like "files touched and why, validation performed" so it knows before it responds to you, it has to look at what files it touched, and it has to perform some kind of validation. No output contract, it will resort to doing the bare minimum to finish as quick as possible
i forgot rate limits changed and ate 10% of my pro plan xD
5.4 output contract is a huge win. Tell it how it's supposed to respond every time, and make the output contract in such a way that they must review their work and think about what they did
We've discussed this a number of times : Document in AGENTS.md how to do what you want it to do. Get it to create comments for all functions and to update procedure docs, functionality specs, README's, and CHANGELOGs. When you give it a new task it will rely on existing documentation rather than having to relearn the entire project with every new task.
I do all that, and it even went out to rewrite the task description so it could meet the acceptance criteria without having to do heavy coding work. If I handhold it I can make it produce some kind of results but still I have to fight it and check it. 5.2 just does the work and does it perfectly 8/10 times and the 2 cases it doesn't it's usually due to human error or it's just something needing more human insight and guidance (front end).
Actually got some really nice results with front end 👌
Thanks
Its funny reading reddit I swear half the problems most have i have not experienced
Thought codex 5.4 was out already
Nah they're not releasing any more codex models (iirc)
seems like they have picked path of general model
over all they have so many options but not enough resources (probably) so sora got the chopping block, codex got the chopping block. And they are building spud
spud probably going to come with a app (eventually) that brings everything together for everyone. Like a mega app
is anyone elses rate limit also bugged? literally 3 prompts is my entire 5 hr limit
i swear Codex is giving me nightmares about the words authoring and cutover
they show up everywhere for some reason
IYKYK
2x limit is extended
i coded 14 hours today to take full advantage of it before it expired
at least it got me working lol
you must be doing some insane prompts
codex is MUCH better than opus right now
did a test running both .. and oy vey ... cc messed up created me errors then fixed its errors .. and had still errors. codex super smart detecting it surg..fixing it
I totally agree
I find codex thinks i shouldnt change code some times, it tends to make things more complicated that it needs to be, some times introduces abstractions for no reason etc. Then when i say get rid of it , it always comes back with it's doing real work but it isnt o.0. So i worked out i can to say steel man removing it. And it will do its best to justify the simplification rather than doing its best to be diligent and not remove something important.
Because it always finds a justification to keep almost every abstraction it made.
giving it the steel man task most times it comes back with this should be flattened or this is mostly ceremony
and it gets the right perspective straight away
It also highlights the actual real work it is doing (if any) not the flakey ideas it has when you just ask it normally
could also just remove the dead code yourself
whats the point of having a coding agent then?
nah its not even about the prompt or the 2x limits, if it was about the prompt it shouldn't be burning through 30% usage just looking at a couple files and reasoning, then another 10% to write the code. when it was 2x limits my average prompt only used 5%
on my life im not tweaking bro
nah you're not
they need to fix it
I’ve been using Claude Code lately, but since they’ve significantly tightened the limits, it seems to run out quickly. Some Claude Code users have started switching to Codex—I switched to Codex myself and felt a huge sense of relief.
Good morning, what does this message mean ? "Selected model is at capacity. Please try a different model."
having the same issue
lets just hope its because they are rolling out a new model
gpt 5.4-codex ?
spud
they hinted at it being the next model
codex models are probaly a thing of the past
source? 👀
They're probably gonna introduce a new tier, Codex Max or something
ok couldnt send that but reached my weekly limit ..
question ... i reached my weekly limit within 2 days is that normal ?
i reached the weekly limit before my 5h limit
I thought it was next week cuz this 👀
Yes, the double limit count is gone
So you're burning through your limit fast now that you're wired in
makes sense .. haha if i do biz 2 seats its worth it ?
You mean buy 2 Plus?
If one can resume context from others
yes you can
Hello everyone—are you able to use Sora 2 right now? For the past couple of days, my account has been showing “out of video gens.” when i gen video.
hmm now confused limits different i read biz has no more sub but is token based .. so better 2 subs plus ..
free users can no longer use it
So do we need to buy the Plus or Pro plan, then?
question too .. would like to have like 50 usd plan ..
so the 5h limit eats up the total weekly limit ..
2 business subscriptions
its worth it but its like 2 plus subscriptions doe
same thing
yes but you have to switch emails everytime for codex
3 seats in business
well today i hit limits but i think its cuz of the rate limit bug
oh ok
ehh i think its a little more but im not sure
since i have used plus before and it was terrible
you also get access to pro which is pretty cool
ok makes sense. So in general you feel 1 biz seat is worth more then 1 sub plus
yes 100%
perfect will do that now
especially after they lowered prices
the 5.4 model is perfect for me right now (backend)
thx a lot for helping me out 🙂
last question if i update now the plus will be gone i guess ..
yeah youll just have to cancel your plus
now i have that issue .. localhost refused to connect .. try to login and it gives me that
yo
I had some issue yesterday codex said token was refreshed please relogin
but it was after 2 months
ok so i just used different way login into the CLI .. but the extension is different hmm
problem iam logged into cli but not extension haha
had to turn off fast mode after 2x limits are over
that's weird
yes
man .. i should knew that too haha was bragging in cc about the speed yesterday ..
the code quality is same with fast off?
lemme try
yeah
I mean claude is still the useful to me due to front end task
codex just make slop
fr
yes frontend better .. backend GO codex 5.4 much better .. like almost made for it haha
waiting for new codex plan
$100 one
I wish codex team put some focus on front end
it just overengineer's simple stuff
its like factually doing what im saying but that UI is not appealing at all
yes agree!
the fast mode .. if set off in cli should adopt the same on extension right ?
yes found it .. was already on standard
yeah I was hoping it would be yesterday but we only got the codex-only pay as you go seat for business/enterprise it seems. I'm not sure if we'll see it today. At least in my country it's a public holiday today, not sure about the USA or the state that OpenAI's HQ is in though
Pro $200/mo expires on the 6th here hence why I was hoping it would show up 😄
Hey all, any RN devs here?
yeah waiting
I actually got my pro renewed for this month but next month I'll downgrade
just checked California's public holidays, today isn't a public holiday so maybe we see it today (optimistic perhaps 😂)
that's a good question, or he might mean the web version 😉
Codex app is version 20 something, CLI is 0 point something, so maybe he means website
hmm, btw is codex app improved? earlier i used it was taking too much ram and lagging when i had bigger sessions
is it worth using codex app or should I continue using cli
not sure, I stopped using it as I got tired of the lag when switching between windows briefly, or threads
true
hmm how the limits are calcualted so if iam on 5.4 high (not fast -> standard) ..weekly limits hits faster than 5 hours limits .. dont think so right ?
not sure if it's the same these days, probably is, but in the past it used to be that if I managed to somehow consume the 5 hour quota, I'd lose about 20% or 25% of my weekly
that would make sense ..
only time I ever consumed my 5 hour quota on Pro was due to a bug I introduced when experimenting with subagents on Codex CLI before they were officially implemented
yeah, I'd say 4 or 5 times
I just aim for 15% a day
yeah that's a good target, so you have quota for the week
how many hours and which model which level
what plan you on?/
20 usd now
oof, limits on that plan will be noticeably lower 😛
I was gonna ask eric
you have 200 ?
forgot to tag him
plus -> biz (hella said is better) .. i just wanna consum from my girlfriend hers quick then thought biz
yeah Pro $200
I'm on pro i use codex 5.3 xhigh, 5.2 xhigh, 5.4 high. i use it anywhere from 4-12 hours a day, also have minimax in droid/opencode and i have openrouter on both of those as well.
damn
bro is loaded
ok yes pro of course another levle haha
i only have codex pro and cc max 5x
i did have cc max5 as well but i didnt use it enough so i dropped to the minimax and openrouter
cheap plus wanna migrate to biz .. and 5x claude
oh ok
I just have ChatGPT Pro and Qwen 3.5 27b locally at the moment
openrouter is api based usage
afaik
yeah, but it has a bunch of free models you can use i put in 10 credits and get 1k req a day on free models
so atm i use qwen 3.6
It can do decent work
i mean when i just have a simple change that covers a few files it works good
@cedar skiff is there any noticable difference between medium and high on 5.4 ?
depends of what i do of course ..
little bit yeah, it just feels like it short cuts a bit on medium. It doesnt talk back as much ahah
like on high and xhigh it'll think it knows better and argue
I just give the old, i don't need your opinion just do the work!
true lol ..
i like that it reflects itself while doing stuff .. better than opus for what i do
I think 5.4 xhigh can be a bit worse because sometimes for a big task it can get almost all the way to compaction without having done much out side of research... then it compacts and loses all the research. So high seems like the sweet spot
damn, I never thought of that
@barren sluice We absolutely need the ability to rename a Codex chat in VS Code. I have tried starting a chat with "Title this chat FOO", but it never works.
Even a simple /rename function would do the trick for now if it's too hard to work it into a context menu.
We need a toggle to switch back to the old 'concentrated sessions' way of consuming rate limit. I can barely get a single decently sized task down now without getting throttled to waiting another 5 hours.
Guys do you prefer gpt 5.3 codex high or gpt 5.4 ?
dude... codex is SOOO OP bruh... also i like GPT 5.4 xhigh...
dude... rlly? especailly in the openai discord?
My bad
i thought it was the JSS server
what server?
Codex is very powerful and very good tools for developers.i tred this tool for 1 week and it is found to be very useful for my coding projects
you can use codex app or just /review in cli
can i have ti review and maek changes to local files
yes
i used /review in cli
but its consumping my normal usage
not code review
i gave it some instruction after /review review my local files..xyz instructions
The code review balance will only be used, if you trigger the review on the GitHub website or something.
Triggering code review via the proper channel does not make local changes FYI. It suggests repo changes in the cloud (GH).
Also you can use Codex Security for free right now on business accounts and that doesn't count towards your usage either - I highly recommend it. You only get 5 repo slots but worth it.
Try rename in the codex app. May also rename in vscode
Unfortunately the chats don't even show up in Codex.
What about when you start them in codex app? And then switch to vscode
I have not yet tested this, but thanks for the suggestion. I'll install Codex.
Has anyone got both Codex & VS Code installed?
Yes, Codex CLI and the vscode extension should share chats. They both write to ~/.codex/sessions afaik
Anyone use the Codex Security thing?
Am I missing something on how to trigger scans? It should see when I commit and rescan, right? I made commits yesterday it's still not picked up on.
or am I just being impatient and it's like a once a week thing
Unfortunately nothing visible on Codex. :/ thanks though.
How does that work? Any more info? What kind of deployment are we talking here?
Ours took awhile to scan the initial few thousand commits on a couple of projects and then new commits took almost 2 days to start filtering in.. but then it happened much more smoothly since. Doesn't really help, just saying we had something of a similar experience.
It's not once a week though, we get more frequent scans than that.
Also make sure you didn't inadvertently pause the scan. I created more than 5 initially not realizing the limit and it paused the first ones I set up.
I've got I think 6 commits and ~45k lines between documentation and code in this repo. It's not that big. I didn't pause it.
I've only got the one scan set up
realllly want them to come out with a 100 dollar plan so i can finally ditch claude its legit the only thing stopping me
oh 2x isnt permanent? okay......
Now it's 2x/2x
I'm on Codex Web, and Codex says it couldn't capture the screen because the browser_container is missing. How do I fix this?
wait what does this mean
depends on the task, but 5.4 mini is my primary model with 5.4 for planning and 5.2 for advanced tasks
5.4 mini is simply comically cheap and can typically do a single task
5.4 can usually take regular human speech to 1 to 5 tasks
5.2 can create something from scratch
you can see 5.2 = 5.3 codex per Mtoken
in reality 5.2 is slightly more expensive because it plans more, but if you are using it, it is for that very capability
all in all 5.4 mini is simply too cheap to ignore
Y no 5.3
codex 5.3 only in the codex desktop app
5.3 codex simply doesn’t fill a niche I need anymore
It’s mildly cheaper than 5.4
But i could just use the far cheaper 5.4 mini for most of those tasks
Allowing me to allocate more compute budget to those high complexity tasks
Which I would rather use the more intelligent 5.4 or the more thorough 5.2
i wish they'd release the ssh feature for the codex desktop app
😭
When I hit the limit and i'm mid-task, like now, will it pick up where it left off when my rate limit resets?
FWIW, I do. And VS Code and Claude on another machine.
Which feature you referring to?
waiting for the codex desktop app to be able to work on remote servers
Oh gotcha
the desktop app is fairly new so hopefully they'll release that feature sometime soon
why only in the desktop app ? I use 100% in terminal
because i can quickly switch to different projects via sidebar
instead of opening hella terminals
and cuz last month there was 2x on the codex app
ah ok but nothing different for the quality I got stressed
cli and desktop app should be the same quality/performance. not too sure about the codex extension though
for vscode and its forks
it will continue until the task is complete but if it does context compaction midway it will stop haha, and yeah it is able to pickup where it left
i dont know how but this happened....
ya that happened to me too, i think that's when the subagents are requesting feedback
but the UI is bugged and won't let you provide it
now see this spooky action at a distance.. check the weekly usage stat. What's going on....?
5h jumps around too
the token burn bug in live action?
Is this confirmed to be in the works?
Well that’s concerning
yeah to say the least lol
what is the problem here?
yeah that 5hr usage and weekly is wild
also, look at various terminals showing different stats for 5h and weekly
