#codex-discussions

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orchid plume
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well, not unchecked, but likely more on the side of vibe coding

cedar skiff
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i'd think every line is reviewed by a person

cobalt junco
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u gotta be stupid to fork the leaked claude src code

nocturne folio
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openai please say the magic words, please keep 2x permanent

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or maybe 4x

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anthropic increases usage based on model drops

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its about to be

exotic cave
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Wait till it's gone i think it's up till the 2nd.

hard drum
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Who lobotomised the GPT models? Suddenyl they're all being lazy arseholes

potent mason
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Oh good they got some more funding they should phaze us out of 2x slowly

cedar skiff
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they folding code reviews into main usage and dropping back double usage, next will be dropping spark off the usage model etc etc

hard tulip
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$122B rased give us codex 10X usage for the next 100 years 😭

cedar skiff
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hopefully we see something good out of turboquant

cyan wing
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Is there no way to set the subagent model in the config.toml?!

I'm trying to use gpt-5.4-mini for subagents..

cedar skiff
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did you ask 5.4 about it? because it's probably making up the answer

worthy furnace
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Are you kidding me? I had full 100% 5h limit and weekly limit 10 minutes ago, and all my 5 hour limit went to zero and my weekly to 70%

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How is that even possible?

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Yeah so annoying

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Do we get a usage refund now or have to wait?

cobalt junco
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use orch systems

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if you facing usage drainage, use orch systems like ruflo for context management and offloading light tasks

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has a higher success rate

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and cuts usage by like 30-50% in my cases

lucid mason
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Starting a new Codex in VS Code chat, asking it to read all relevant docs. Now I can resume work on the code. 😄

I read the required docs, benchmark-store files, and maintained PowerPacer.* scripts, then verified the live package state against the code.
Somewhere around 500k the behavior starts to become more erratic, though, and around 700k is becomes mostly useless. So the 1M context window is never fully usable anyway.

cedar skiff
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codex always tries to steel man keeping stuff and adding complexity

cyan wing
cedar skiff
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I worked out to tell it to steel man the removal

lucid mason
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I wouldn't mind compacting or older "memory" getting lost. But I repeatedly reach a point where even the most current chat input isn't answered sensible anymore. Like GPT not looking at a file I just uploaded and then stating old numbers instead of new ones. Or it outright stating that I didn't upload anything until I question that answer.

It really becomes unable to even handle new chat input at one point. I also had multiple instances where it repeated an older answer to my new chat input, ignoring what I just wrote. So it doesn't lose old data, it loses new data right away instead.

cedar skiff
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is there a 1 million context window?

uncut ridge
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hello

lucid mason
uncut ridge
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hello

lucid mason
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You set it via config.toml.

uncut ridge
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hello

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i have a question

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important

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for

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me

cedar skiff
uncut ridge
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hello

rain kettle
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4 small-medium tasks done with the use of subagents (yesterday) vs 25 big tasks done without subagents (today). Lesson learned: subagents should be used only when the task really requires their help

feral geyser
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Straight from the model's mouth!! What do you all think? I looked into some of the risk with connecting third party plugins -- the bit about sharing recent "context and intent" should raise caution for any businesses or entrepreneurs because the ambiguity of what constitutes these terms 'context and intent' is extremely flexible and thus as a means of consumer right and protection, it may fall short here. What do you all think?

Imagine you are using Codex to roll out your new FinTech related tool. Oops, Codex just shared all your business strategy and plans in an attempt to "help Stripe perform", all because you were recently discussing these subjects and they got categorized as "context and intent".

Curious to hear everyone's thoughts on this -- including the mods!

nocturne folio
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gpt 5.4 is like both so good and so bad, it keeps hallucinating frontend requests, but will go on and create ground breaking discoveries in the backend

cedar skiff
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probably not going to open a pdf from a random discord chat o.0

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let me ask chatgpt if i should do it and then put the answer in a pdf and paste it in here

royal mirage
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chatgpt down?

boreal holly
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I got these suckas so dialed in they dont even listen to me anymore 😂

royal mirage
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anyone else? can check please

cedar skiff
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classic

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If bro can miss-understand bro will miss-understand

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It's like an internal directive

nocturne folio
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i hope nothing possesses openai to increase the price of their next models

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dude 2$ and 10$ was enough

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uggghhh and the crappy cost increase for going over 200k tokens

cedar skiff
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i wonder if the have a ten trillion param model in the works like anthropic

boreal holly
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This is pretty awesome. 5.4 knows if a message is not prefixed with [End of Turn], [Approval Request] or [Some-Agent-Name] it's a user message, but they've been running for so long they just act like user messages are the devil 😈 set in their goal of building the perfect software. They will not rest until the whole thing is built and perfected

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Gotta have the authority to talk to these digital folks

wintry sonnet
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damn, plus plan is definitly not enaugh for developer task

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the 7 week limits can be used up in just only one days

bright geode
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anyone know for the claude code codex plugin how you would run on fast mode? I think it doesn't have the option, I guess this is something that can be turned on with ~/.codex/config ?

cyan wing
cyan wing
# boreal holly

and does it sync with your desktop chat sessions
so you can continue them when you're on the go ?!

cyan wing
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shut_up_and_take_my_money.gif

boreal holly
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i mean i like chillin in the couch while the robots are killin it

cyan wing
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idk why Codex team is not making mobile handoff natively part of Codex already

boreal holly
cyan wing
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ya i made one of those, but posting to the app store is soo annoying 😩

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and i made it with Expo so I have to deal with all the development server / expo app bs

boreal holly
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the only concession i made is I do not use Apple’s network stack. they impose an arbitrary 1MB websocket limit that I discovered the hard way.

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Codex sends huge websockets

cyan wing
# boreal holly Codex sends huge websockets

ya prolly want the bridge server to only show latest N messages in a thread
and don't need to send all the response output of a command / tool call
bad for battery life + network usage

boreal holly
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it shows 50 messages, but optionally can read the entire chat history

cyan wing
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And does it support $skills?
plan mode, model switching, and reasoning level?

boreal holly
tender stream
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I installed fedora....... I did this all night...

deft gyro
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cool

cedar skiff
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once i got a mac i never looked at windows again

deft gyro
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good 4 u

deft gyro
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I dont use too many tbh

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just like

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web design

cedar skiff
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i kept a gaming pc for a while, but then i replaced gaming with claude code and codex o.0

boreal holly
cedar skiff
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sold the gaming pc before the ram hit a high

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is it all local data or do you run a server?

deft gyro
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robdex orchestrator skill

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I forgot u have like 20 million agents

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I have prompt optimizer skill

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web design skill

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and the default codex skills

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idk

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all the github skills

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imagegen

cedar skiff
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most of my skills are topical

deft gyro
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I feel you dont need that many

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I should probably remove some of them

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I dont need imagegen

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just context bloat

boreal holly
deft gyro
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ah ic

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do you just have like

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a markdown file

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that they write to

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or is it something special

boreal holly
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The orchestrator is the memory system. Workers do their work and get archived

deft gyro
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(i have never done agent orchestration b4)

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seems like it would be a mess to me

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to have multiple llms touching the same part of a project

cedar skiff
# deft gyro I dont need imagegen

codex has openai.yaml you can set like this so the front matter is excluded from the context and they are only manually invokable.

policy:
  allow_implicit_invocation: false
deft gyro
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yeah I know

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but sometimes I dont ask for it to use X skill

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and I just want it to be able to call it on its own

cedar skiff
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right but you said about context bloat

deft gyro
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yes

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like everything

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its a balance

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oh wait is that for individual skills

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I might have to do that

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im a lil slow

cedar skiff
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yeah but this wont be in the context so you can have your cake and eat it too

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yeah ahha

celest patrol
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anyone knows how to fix this. im upgrading from plus to pro but i can't get it approved.

the support is useless as well. and i know it's not to do with my card (i tried 2 cards)

deft gyro
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are you sure about that

cedar skiff
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get a third card

deft gyro
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vro

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i swear

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automod

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no fun

boreal holly
# deft gyro seems like it would be a mess to me

The orchestrator keeps them from cross cutting edits. The workers have their slice and thats their entire life. QA pilots the apps in a simulator and report bugs, the orchestrator spawns agents in response to the bugs and aggressively reviews their work

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I just speak with the orchestrator

deft gyro
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ah ic makes some sense

celest patrol
deft gyro
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but how much does it cost tho

boreal holly
cedar skiff
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Do you just install the app via xcode?

deft gyro
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I need to upgrade to pro soooo bad

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holy

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I ran out of weekly yesterday

cedar skiff
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get a cheap model for the easy work

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glm or minimax

deft gyro
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I use my gemini sub for the easy work

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and the really hard work

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cos AG has co46

boreal holly
deft gyro
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ong i hate apple

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apple is such an opp

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but I still use iphone

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im just complaining really

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the app store restrictions SUCK so bad

boreal holly
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it grows on you lol I love Linux but I also like a machine that has good battery life and stuff so mac is a good alternative

deft gyro
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idk

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my laptop gets 12h with light work

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like

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normal dev work

whole gate
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If I put a config.toml that configures access to my app's MCP server will the Codex Cloud agent use it?

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Or will only the local CLI use it?

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It would be exceptionally useful for Codex in the cloud to be able to access my MCP server that exposes database schema details and RPC reflection metadata.

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Currently, I'm using Claude for planning because it is easy to configure this in the Claude desktop client

oak trellis
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back here .. cc got me rekt ..

whole gate
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Useless Dev hey bud haha

oak trellis
whole gate
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RIght?

oak trellis
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yes horrible

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i used /resume .. 4k tokens used 13% of my session

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unbelievable .. its like i have a 20 usd sub ..

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one member said its like 100->20 .. 200->100

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and codex fixing so much code issues i had with opus too

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i hope openai releases a 100 usd sub ..

boreal holly
deft gyro
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I mean codex sub is about to get nuked

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so like

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the halvening

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istg

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gpt 5.4 is TRYING to ragebait me

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why does it not

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read the damn files

whole gate
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Ok, so if you tell it specifically to connect to an MCP server in Codex Cloud it will try. I think I just need to correct my token auth flow to handle it.

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This won't work in this particular scenario, but I ran a few more additional prompts and it definitely will use a configured MCP server in the Codex Cloud. I got it a step closer, but I might need to adjust my auth flow to use a true bearer token, currently my auth flow is set up to require interactive access token from Microsoft OAuth provider.

whole gate
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In effect, it's basically saying if I turn on DCR it will just work.

chrome raven
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happy reset

deft sable
orchid plume
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the codex team are amazing, they didn't have to reset but they did so for two reasons 👍

eternal quartz
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wdym fraudulent

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Times of generous codex are over and now we increasingly getting thowards claude treatment?

orchid plume
tawny island
eternal quartz
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@normal ore

tawny island
eternal quartz
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Can someone please ban this toxic guy

tawny island
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they havent rugpulled anyone you get insane usage forf 200$ month and if you cant make more than 200$ from the usage you get then thats on you

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earn money with it and buy more subs to make more money. its not a charity

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codex team have not done a single thing sketchy

orchid plume
tawny island
fast iron
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I love it! Thank you codex, now I can keep building!'

eager forum
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I felt rate limit consumed faster then before this week. But happy reset!

supple perch
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@boreal holly turns out gpt 5.4 has a 92k rolling window context, so its best to compress at 80k if you have that setup

worn harness
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holy another reset

turbid axle
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is nano any good? as in, usuable as a daily driver?

worn harness
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depends what you want from it

wide forge
main wraith
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getting these since yesterday, what does it mean?

celest stag
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I find you can ask codex to diagnose issues with MCP servers and tell you more information. Hell, I have had it build brand new MCP servers for systems where I knew I had API access just by asking it to. It should be able to explain it.

worn harness
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hmm, usage bonus is over? burn seems 2x faster

orchid plume
worn harness
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you have codex cli?

orchid plume
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using a different harness currently

stable obsidian
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Anyone else finds 5.3-codex way more reliable than 5.4

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Especially when it comes to frontend

quaint sigil
stable obsidian
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On 5.4 I always get broken, hallucinated or non-functioning components

worn harness
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5.4 for my projects at least is more reliable on frontend (if we ignore design)

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you're doing JS?

azure cape
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I'm using CODEX CLI with model 5.4 high in FAST mode in windows WSL, and I'm getting a lot of "fail to apply patch". Almost all file patch execution attempts are failing and the CODEX is going to go back to Python to try to edit files. Anyone else getting the same error?

boreal holly
# turbid axle is nano any good? as in, usuable as a daily driver?

Nano is really good at these things (in terms of cost):

  • Classification: Can read large bodies of text and classify it quickly and fairly accurately (e.g. is this command destructive or safe? rm -rf / "destructive").
  • Structured Outputs: Pairs with classification - force the model to respond with an enumerated and finite set of values
  • Routing: Can determine complexity of a request and upgrade conversation to a smarter model

I've used it for these things with pretty good results. But for actual coding tasks, it very quickly degrades in performance/accuracy. In the app I'm building, I use nano until the user asks for something with medium or high complexity and then it upgrades the conversation. It also detects whether the user is asking for something relevant (e.g. business or just messing around) and downgrades the conversation if it detects chit-chat. For this it works extremely well 🙂 but for coding I think 5.4-mini is legitimately powerful.

deft gyro
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I find 5.4 mini really tries to get away without reading the codebase

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and it always fails when it tries not to read the codebase

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much more than even 5.4 or 5.3 codex

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5.2 my god always reads 10 trillion files before CONSIDERING to start

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not saying youre wrong of course

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5.4 mini can code

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im just saying for the average user

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who isn't all that great at prompting

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its not the best choice

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I think if you really want something done right and you dont know how to prompt the order is

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5.2 > 5.3 codex > 5.4 > 5.4 mini

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maybe switch 5.4 and 5.3 codex depending on what youre doing

boreal holly
# deft gyro 5.4 mini is only useful for good prompters though

I don't make 5.4 mini navigate the whole codebase. 5.4 pieces together the work and passes it down to 5.4-mini with enough detail to carry out implementation. If you tell 5.4-mini where to look beforehand it does a fine job. Sounds wasteful to make 5.4 navigate, but a majority of the quota gets burned up on output tokens and tool call outputs as input. Navigation is relatively cheap, and keeping the smart model as a coherent navigator while the junior model carries out guided implementation keeps the 5.4 agent from degrading as fast

main nimbus
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robert, you and another mentioned an orchestrator setup. is this just done through agent files in codex?

boreal holly
vast crater
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Is there any fix or solution to avoid having a very laggy Windows Codex App please?

odd fog
vast crater
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I tried modifying the environment.toml in .codex-app/environments in WSL2

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but no luck on that

odd fog
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my current fix is i created a symlink between /mnt/c/..../.codex/worktrees onto the wsl filesystem

surreal wing
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2 prompts

vast crater
odd fog
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the agent is fine with it, but the UI gets buggy as it can't see the folder

vast crater
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so I might avoid that, but didn't research further than that

odd fog
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Yeah it screws with permissions and bitflags on the file

vast crater
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Yeah

odd fog
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it's very frustrating

vast crater
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🥲

odd fog
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and can't even fix it afaik as it's set app side

vast crater
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do you have a laggy app as well? @odd fog

odd fog
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sometimes

deft gyro
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I have a laggy codex app

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no clue why

vast crater
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Mine is stuttering/lagging periodically, the cursor is laggy af

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I don't understand where it's coming from, no huge RAM usage, GPU or CPU as well

odd fog
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I don't think that would help? It's codex app that is trying very hard to write to the windows directories

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and you just lose unix-file information when writing to the windows filesystem

boreal holly
odd fog
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core filemode could be a good shout

But the path of the worktree is being set to the /mnt/c so unless i redo the mount entirely that would be quite hard to inject mutagen in?

boreal holly
# odd fog core filemode could be a good shout But the path of the worktree is being set ...

I mean like, on Windows you set it up so that C drive worktree folder Mutagen syncs everything except for .git back into WSL, and you can set directories to 755 and files to 644. That way the agents are writing to files inside the WSL container, and mutagen pulls those changes back into the c drive worktree. That keeps the agents doing their apply_patch edits and stuff on real unix files inside WSL with proper permissions. And with code.filemode=false git wont care about file permission changes

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The only thing idk about is if Codex app sets their CWD to the worktree on the windows drive. That might be the only blocker with that setup (sandbox would scope to windows mount)

odd fog
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Yeah codex app is very stubborn on setting cwd

north jolt
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Is anyone using Cursor CLI through Codex? I’m curious if I should set up the Cursor CLI as some kind of subagent in the Codex config or make a skill

true bane
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as usual, thanks to whoever or however my weekly tokens on plus were reset to 100% unexpectedly early. 👍

cyan wing
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Does anyone know when the 2X rate limits end exactly?
Like what time of day on April 2nd?

cobalt junco
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was there usage reset?

true pendant
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Hi guys, I found a shell-init inconsistency between Codex and Claude on zsh that breaks command aliases/functions set in ~/.zshrc.

On my machine, both report /usr/bin/zsh for echo $0, but the shell flags differ:

Codex: echo $- → 569X
Claude: echo $- → 569JNRXghkl

This causes aliases to be broken, in Codex:

type gh
# gh is /usr/bin/gh

In Claude:

type gh
# gh is an alias for op plugin run -- gh

My gh alias is defined in ~/.zshrc via 1Password shell plugin setup. Claude picks it up, but Codex does not.

I'm on linux and installed codex via npm.

cobalt junco
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interesting

royal garnet
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guys do you prefer playwright mcp or playwright cli?

drifting granite
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cli, easy.

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Any CLI > MCP

cyan wing
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anyone seeing this error a lot on the new TUI version ?
on Linux

manic thunder
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Hi

stable obsidian
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What is that

cyan wing
nimble terrace
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i remember hearing few weeks back that gpt 5.3 codex spark would release to plus users

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i don't think that ever happened

royal garnet
drifting granite
# cyan wing ooh why is that?

So an MCP injects context for how to use it into every conversation. Let's say you are using playwright for one task, then you need to switch to another where you aren't going to be using playwright. Codex still recieves instructions for how to use playwright, even if it isn't going to use it. With a CLI you can create a Skill for how to use it, then the skill only gets calls when you say "Do this with playwright", then Codex knows how to use it and how you want it used.

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The skill also injects some context, but it is much much much lighter than any MCP.

worn harness
tawny island
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anthropic limits the performance of claude code depending on which plan you are on I just found out from the src code

sharp gazelle
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how will everyone cope with the sudoku of 2x tomorrow

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should we form a self-help group and talk it through

past prairie
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Hey guys, do you think we'll really stop not having the x2 anymore tomorrow ? I really feel the usage will go down really quickly

past prairie
sharp gazelle
true pendant
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do codex shell tool calls do not inherit the user's real terminal auth/session context?

tawny island
plush harbor
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I usually use codex for small tweaks, I got it to write an entire application last night ... if I kill this session and restart it does it just forget our old conversation or what? I'm really not a fan of living in the terminal like this

true pendant
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and it should also appear in the conversation history in app/extension

cedar skiff
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It's not a surprise they arent being transparent. They never have been.

plush harbor
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I want to give it an image of how I want the page laid out and apparently you do that with codex -i

I can't use the app, this is all cli

true pendant
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you can paste images in the cli

plush harbor
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... how?

true pendant
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ctrl+v

plush harbor
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yes but how, like what do you paste? Path to a file?

true pendant
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you paste the entire image

plush harbor
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but its all ascii

true pendant
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what is ascii?

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the cli?

plush harbor
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codex. The whole thing is just ascii

cedar skiff
wise heron
plush harbor
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like I said, I'm really not a fan of being stuck in the terminal

true pendant
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dont worry, it will appear as [Image #1] but codex will realize its an image

plush harbor
true pendant
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you can try ide extension if you really dont want to use the terminal but cant use the app

plush harbor
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I just thought I'd randomly vibe code up an entire application. As you do

wise heron
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on next updates will be also available in the app as in claude where they have in app all.. chat / cowork / code

vagrant lily
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do we know what time today the x2 rate limits end?

cedar skiff
plush harbor
cedar skiff
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depends what the buttons do 😁

plush harbor
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like all of them, its used teal for save/add buttons and the highlight colour on menus

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failed to find what I wanted online, thought screw this its 2026 I'll get codex to do all of it

safe holly
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Can I run codex on a remote SSH target? I want to deploy to a VPS but it kinda sucks losing codexs ability to work on the code.

hard drum
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can you disable hook messages?

cobalt junco
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is 4bln tokens in 30 days healthy usage or am i doomed

scenic remnant
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Is Codex still available for Free tier?

sweet heart
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codex keeps creating an empty .codex file idk why

cedar skiff
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you mean .codex/ folder?

exotic herald
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Is anyone experiencing hitting their rate limits faster with codex ?

urban gazelle
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is codex acting strange for anyone else

nocturne folio
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you need to pump more slop

cyan wing
burnt peak
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I feel like the usage is draining after this morning reset

plush harbor
nocturne folio
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is codex down

nocturne folio
exotic herald
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Yo I thought I was crazy like both gpt and api accounts moving crazy

nocturne folio
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not todday

plush harbor
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I thought it was the 2nd, who knows what timezone. Its afternoon april 2 for me

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I'm just over here testing writing an entire application without touching the code myself. Going good so far

nocturne folio
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openai is american

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so it wouldnt be like

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yk

plush harbor
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yes I've noticed, chatgpt always has the day wrong. Wouldn't kill them to add localisation

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chatgpt got the day wrong YET AGAIN today so that reminded me to tell codex to put configurable timezone in this app I'm making it write. Or I'm gonna be disappointed when I put it on a server that's running at UTC 0

exotic herald
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I’m in London it’s 2nd April and I’m hitting rate limits

cedar skiff
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kimi devs have a new way to manage attention, looks like it could increase context stability. Lots of big steps forward coming out lately

vital hill
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how long does the go plan $8/month last in codex?

cyan wing
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anyone else experiencing apply patch tool errors in new Codex version?
I'm on Linux

slim badge
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any unity devs using codex? how's your experience so far?

karmic grotto
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I'm using codex $20 (USD) plan, and it offers basically as much as the competition's $200 plan

cedar skiff
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not even close tbh

vital hill
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depends on the project

cedar skiff
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tokens are tokens

oak trellis
cedar skiff
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Ive always been bananaman :p

oak trellis
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By the way codex still lit ? Vs cc ? Used yesterday without any limits …cc hitting non stop

oak trellis
cedar skiff
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codex is still pretty good, they both have their problems

oak trellis
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Cc opus has always missing stuff .. do not follow instructions etc

karmic grotto
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yeah, cc tries to skimp and skirt the work a lot more

slim badge
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im trying it out lol. ive worked on other projects with codex and they were awesome. wanted to explore unity too

sand shuttle
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did they reset limits?

slim badge
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it resets itself every 5 hours and every week

cedar skiff
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I wonder if they do the same thing with gpt models

solemn acorn
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you can check but I don't believe so

#

codex is (intentionally 🙃 ) FOSS at least

solemn acorn
# solemn acorn you can check but I don't believe so

In a normal ongoing Codex session, it is left at the top of the conversation history rather than freshly re-injected on every new user turn.
(chatgpt given the codex repo, also the official docs corroborate that)

vital hill
#

i love how vague i can be in a prompt and the codex desktop app jsut gets it

solemn acorn
cedar skiff
#

gpt models must be much better at attention

#

i mean they call skills really well

sweet heart
cedar skiff
#

where is the file?

sweet heart
#

in my project root directory

royal mirage
#

anyone know which plugin we have to use inside claude code so it can run codex/chatgpt inside it?

plush harbor
#

Interesting. I just got codex to write me an entire app. Token usage: total=897,183 input=823,967 (+ 12,276,096 cached) output=73,216 (reasoning 6,704)

plush harbor
#

did the whole thing in one session so that was what i got when I closed codex

wintry crypt
#

Anyone notice how codex superbowl stuff has had no update

barren hinge
#

Have you experienced malicious command from bitdefender if you use codex ? or R0? Should we treat those as a necessity or can it be better ? Someone expect more browser_container (e.g. dart) in codex for screenshots ?

lusty nimbus
#

are the 2x usage limits gone now?

barren hinge
#

It was mixed in 1

barren hinge
lusty nimbus
#

meaning they both count towards the same limits now? What about the 2x rate limits? Are those still in place?

cedar skiff
#

code review still showing up for me

barren hinge
cedar skiff
#

Cna you explain this Task and review are in the same count?

#

I think i misunderstand what is going on

barren hinge
cedar skiff
#

uh i can't understand this o.0

#

code review bar is for github review

#

I think they are folding that into normal usage right?

static lark
static lark
cedar skiff
tacit socket
#

man i really hope $100 plans come out after 2x finishes

#

$200 is too much and i don't need that much =/

cedar skiff
#

I think that is kind of the idea of the pricing gap

tacit socket
#

there were some leaks that showed $100 plan floating around. so i think it's coming, just a matter of when

cedar skiff
#

ahh ok, interesting.

#

i wonder if the plus plan will take a hit then

tacit socket
#

sh*tification is always the path forward

cedar skiff
#

it moves fast though, there is lots of progress in performance and efficiency

lusty nimbus
#

is anyone else getting "Selected model is at capacity. Please try a different model."

orchid plume
tacit socket
worthy furnace
#

My usage limit was full 5 minutes ago, did 1 task and its all gone and my weekly is down to 40%

#

Are you serious? Lmao

#

Who is going to fix that?

#

@robust lintel

#

@winged ore

#

This is just theft at this point

hard drum
muted tinsel
#

Codex VS code extension KO ?

winged depot
cyan wing
orchid plume
#

my hope is that Plus will go back to near enough or exactly at its original limits for the quota, in which case Pro 5x essentially nearly becomes what Pro $200 was at 1x bonus rate, while Pro 20x which replaces the original Pro $200 (at 6x~) will feel like 2x wasn't turned off

past prairie
cedar skiff
#

bring on spud

#

lets see how it goes

orchid plume
#

if the monthly model cycle is continuing, we might see spud today, if not, next week I guess 😛

#

they're probably also waiting for Anthropic though

wide forum
#

здарова

fallow steppe
#

uhh guys, codex is down?

cedar skiff
#

its working for me

waxen terrace
#

Is Claude Code still better than Codex?

orchid plume
# waxen terrace Is Claude Code still better than Codex?

for features, well, it has more hook coverage, perhaps a slightly nicer looking TUI, an experimental teams feature, probably missed a few things which would be nice to have in Codex CLI at some point as I don't really use CC. Codex CLI however has what's needed pretty much, just improved hook coverage would be nice to see soon. Codex CLI's code is also far more polished compared to Claude Code's code (the leaked code that is)

worn harness
#

claude code is better if you hate your money or if you need heavy frontend design

cedar skiff
#

Codex is better at code. Claude forgets too soon, so you have to spend a lot of time and effort enforcing the following of instructions. Codex doesnt forget like that.

sharp gazelle
#

is 2x gone yet

worn harness
#

hope so, because usage burn at least feels 2x faster,

cedar skiff
#

code review is still showing in the dashboard

cedar skiff
#

usage on the top plan is similar for code alone, but you get unlimited image gen, unlimited gpt chat, more model choices, codex app, gpt-pro access, weekly spark usage above normal usage.

#

Claude is better at research, documentation, and writing imo. but you have to pay for it in your token allocation

waxen terrace
cedar skiff
#

If you were to us claude for only coding and codex for only coding i think it feels about the same amount. BUT thats just my exp, nothing definitive. codex also has a github code review usage. They did say they were folding that into normal usage though.

#

They havent done it yet

wooden minnow
#

I feel like codex limits are consuming fassst

#

is it the 2x over?

#

I think codex should keep 2x limit as defaults openai_blush

cedar parcel
#

I think they should replace the 2x by 4x then we're closer to where we have to be again

#

I wonder what would happen if they made a $999 unlimited tier

worn harness
#

any idea what "other" here is? I have only codex cli

#

or their new version is logging stuff wrong

orchid plume
#

one other nice thing is that Codex and ChatGPT have separate quotas

#

hopefully we'll have a nice surprise today, not a nasty shock 😛

orchid plume
hard drum
cedar parcel
waxen terrace
hard drum
#

Only add a rust library for this existing TS library
agent decides to not follow this, and actually add something extre that was never asked for

#

gpt 5.2 doesn't do that

#

gpt 5.4 is an arsehole

sleek spoke
plucky halo
#

Disappointing on the pro plan

sleek spoke
plucky halo
#

Telling me gpt-5.4 is at capacity in Codex

worn harness
#

area? Never seen that message in EU

plucky halo
#

UK

sleek spoke
fervent anvil
#

Codex 5.4 is unusable with anything like a large codebase. It goes one step forward, four steps back. It is so frustrating. It breaks the last thing it fixed when fixing something else. Its like it has amnesia.

worn harness
#

what thinking are you using, do you have memories enabled?

orchid plume
#

I haven't seen that message yet but my guess is that many are making the most of the bonus rate which ends today

plucky halo
#

Ignore my last message - I misread yours

past prairie
past prairie
vital hill
sleek spoke
orchid plume
sleek spoke
#

tl;dr = Greg has said in an interview it's a new pre-train and it's coming, Tibo tweeted a hint that something big is coming next week that will increase Codex user growth

waxen terrace
sleek spoke
#

I've never used Claude Code, so don't know

waxen terrace
sleek spoke
#

sure

vital hill
worn harness
#

5.4 will never make decent frontend design, I think I have wasted 20 days trying to make it but it's just impossible

vital hill
#

but coming up with a design from scratch? forget about it

worn harness
#

like yeah if you copy an existing design it will do it, but if you want a unique design it's just a dead end
just an army of lists and cards

#

if I see this color I reflexively gag now

quaint sigil
#

whats your guys main coding model been switching been 5.4 high and xhigh and cant seem to justify the thinking between high and xhigh

#

also seen some people still on 5.3 codex

plucky halo
#

I very, very rarely use xhigh

worn harness
#

high 90% time, if stuck then try codex 5.3 or 5.4 xhigh

quaint sigil
#

yeah been seeing that pattern hm okok

plucky halo
#

Find I get better results instead of using xhigh when it's stuck, handing off to another model to look at

vital hill
quaint sigil
#

main pattern i see is xhigh seems to overthink and trip on itself

worn harness
#

and that

orchid plume
worn harness
#

yup, very minimal impact

#

from 5 to 6 as best

orchid plume
#

that's unfortunate

drifting granite
#

I've got a theory we are getting 5.5 today for Codex. The last releases have been on the 5th of the month, the 5th is a Sunday, and today the 2x limit ends.

potent mason
#

I don't think we are getting a new model this month, we just got 5.4 and both labs are working on something "big" which should take a couple more weeks at least for RL

worn harness
#

i think they are waiting to match claude release

drifting granite
#

I'm pretty sure they mentioned doing monthly releases for models.

past prairie
cyan wing
sleek spoke
orchid plume
#

yeah while it would be nice if the model arrived today, I don't think it will. Hoping instead that the new Pro plans will be released at the very least, curious how 5x and 20x will actually be

potent mason
orchid plume
ivory zodiac
#

they nerfed 5hr limits?

orchid plume
orchid plume
# toxic torrent is pro plan already 20x?

so, there's two possibilities:
a) If they return Plus back to the original quota limits then Pro 20x will feel like the 2x bonus is still ongoing
b) If they reduce Plus's quota limits compared to what they originally were on x1 then Pro 20x won't necessarily feel like the bonus 2x is ongoing

so we need to wait and see what happens

toxic torrent
#

voice input has been failing/timing out a lot today

#

unsure if client or server issue with whisper

nocturne folio
#

gpt 5.5 will release tomorrow and 2x will stay

#

well i hope

sand shuttle
#

has codex performance dropped recently?

hard tulip
drifting granite
#

vibes

steady vigil
cyan wing
sleek spoke
steady vigil
# cyan wing how do you recommend people experiencing this issue can resolve it ?

I dont know the specific problem they are encountering, but if you arent getting good results on a large code base it probably means the architecture is poorly designed. I'm using it with an ~2m loc project that is as easy to work with as a 20k loc project. Why? rust actor model. No state problems, no context bloat issues, its like working on individual small projects

cyan wing
steady vigil
#

you are dealing with one actor + potentially one hop away actors that's it

#

have you tried a graph / semantic view/mcp?

#

that can help with messy architecture to try to simplify/clean it up you just build the nodes and lines of what talks to what and then you can optimize

cyan wing
cyan wing
steady vigil
#

well it depends on the language used

cyan wing
#

im using Rust ya

ornate musk
steady vigil
#

@cyan wing I'll release the actor model I'm working in a few weeks I'll let you know. I highly recommend using it, it will change your life 🙂

#

I buid everything using it now

cyan wing
#

Sickk thank you, much needed!
I have codex splitting out my ~300k loc repo into separate crates rn for better discovery / decoupling

steady vigil
true bane
#

yo i thought this** (INCREDIBLY USEFUL AND BETTER THAN YOUR COMPETITORS)** code review bucket with 53% was going away 2 days ago? any one know when its really leaving? shockingly internet searches not helping

cyan gyro
#

wow tokens are being eaten like crazy

karmic grotto
#

Does anyone else call GPT Geppetto?

cyan wing
orchid plume
sleek spoke
orchid plume
#

Rohan on X at least said something about it being a war room about ChatGPT/Codex pricing changes or something, glimpsed a post earlier at least, so maybe it's still happening today

sleek spoke
#

@ivory zodiac seems to agree

cyan wing
sleek spoke
#

very interesting, how old are the current price tiers now? since the launch of o1-pro? (excepting the Go tier)

orchid plume
#

not sure on age but certainly quite some time, and yes that's the one

cyan wing
sharp gazelle
#

the new gpt business plans are not what we wanted… we wanted a more expensive seat with higher codex limjts

frigid sigil
#

I am having trouble getting .codex/rules/default.rules to do anything useful. I have massaged it in about 8 different ways, and I still have to approve every attempt to read anything. I wrote a helper function
"C:\Users\usx28880.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1"
and put variations of
prefix_rule(
pattern = [
"&",
"C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe",
"-File",
"C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1",
"-Path",
],
decision = "allow",
justification = "Allow the standard read-only helper for pulling a subset of a file.",
match = [
"& 'C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe' -File 'C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1' -Path 'src\StoreApp\StoreAppBaseContent\ViewModel\Managers\InteractivePrintPreviewSession.cs' -Skip 1 -First 950",
"& "C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe" -File "C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1" -Path "src\StoreApp\StoreAppBaseContent\ViewModel\Managers\InteractivePrintPreviewSession.cs" -Skip 1 -First 950",
"& 'C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe' -File 'C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1' -Path 'C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\rules\default.rules' -Skip 0 -First 260",
"& "C:\Program Files\PowerShell\7\pwsh.exe" -File "C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\scripts\read-file-slice.ps1" -Path "C:\Users\usx28880\.codex\rules\default.rules" -Skip 0 -First 260",
],
)
(with the "&", without the "&", with single quotes, double quotes, etc.)
but still it asks me for approval every time it needs to use my script to read part of a file.

meager wadi
#

the 2x limits were so good 😭

haughty plaza
#

Must be an idiot but codex is totally unusable this cant be for real

#

No serious work can be done like 20 min some refactors -> wait 5 hourw

#

I understand it can become a bit more expensive but this is redicelous let them at lewst hive me credits till im
Internet millionaire then i gladly fork over 2500 a month

worn harness
#

there's no way you get only 20 minutes out of plus sub

haughty plaza
#

No im on a plus account using codex

worn harness
#

disable fast mode, dont use xhigh

haughty plaza
#

Guess thats the catch then they want me to upgrade to pro. Yup no fastmode and using medium

#

So they got me how much do u do on a pro subscription and anyone lnows if its tax deductable? Like in europe or it it like google ireland no tax deduction?🙏

worn harness
#
codex features list | grep true
collaboration_modes              removed            true
enable_request_compression       stable             true
memories                         under development  true
multi_agent                      stable             true
personality                      stable             true
shell_snapshot                   stable             true
shell_tool                       stable             true
skill_mcp_dependency_install     stable             true
sqlite                           removed            true
steer                            removed            true
tool_call_mcp_elicitation        stable             true
tool_suggest                     stable             true
tui_app_server                   removed            true
unified_exec                     stable             true

Check what you have, here's mine

haughty plaza
#

Ah good one im not behond desk but def no fast mode inteied that once no benefit to me

worn harness
#

it was enabled by default on some update

haughty plaza
#

Ok ill double check thank u. How much would u get out of it with peo its fair usage policy right?

sleek spoke
deft gyro
#

lol

#

if ur running out thats a skill issue

haughty plaza
#

Whatnwcares me they can shut your account down no reason. No refund

deft gyro
#

of the 5 hour at least

worn harness
deft gyro
#

youre not using enough 5.4 mini

sleek spoke
deft gyro
#

also avoid 5.4

#

5.3 codex is mildly cheaper

haughty plaza
#

I once did claude subscription last year claude totallu scked gemini same dont thrust them anymore codex is only option for me

whole gate
#

I use both Claude and Codex together, Opus 4.6 does my planning, Codex in the Cloud does the actual code implementation.

deft gyro
#

I use ag and codex

whole gate
#

Codex is very good at writing code, Claude is a bit better at planning becaues of larger contex, at least that's the feeling I get.

haughty plaza
# sleek spoke interesting

Claude is a lying ai agent outputting just crapp and never follows rules thrust gone maybe its better now

deft gyro
#

to be fair I have like 200 dollars of unused codex credits

whole gate
#

@haughty plaza This is a fair observation, even in planning I constantly find it violating rules and suggesting anti-patterns. I just do extensive reviews to make sure these kinds of things are caught. I spent at least an hour on most prompts and results reviews.

haughty plaza
#

What does fair usage means for u guys? How would that compare to a pro subscription of course i use the 5 accounts even though not allowrd

whole gate
#

I upgraded to Max and have never hit any limits for the last two months I've been using it.

haughty plaza
whole gate
#

Codex in the Cloud on the $20 plan I rarely use more than 15% of my tokens per week

haughty plaza
#

well im only interested in codex pro but.. like said there policy if they deel anythijng wrong they block account gone 230 dollars nonway to contact them decently that is just why i used pro at least then the hit is only 140 ush

haughty plaza
whole gate
haughty plaza
#

Manually codijg is nonoption anymore

whole gate
#

Yeah, I'm very single threaded.

#

Because of how unreliable the coding agents are still, this has only improved my workflows slightly.

#

I barely ever write code these days, occassional fix or quick edit faster than going through a prompt, but to be fair, I usually spen 90% of my time as a developer planning, not writing code.

#

So this improved my workflows a bit as it cut that 10% writing code out of the equasion.

haughty plaza
#

I dont even rename folders or move files a prompt is faster but well the main question is if codex will atill be worth it now. I wonder if there is some docs on pro versus plus usage

deft gyro
haughty plaza
#

Need to find some intell

#

I dont use cloud to much hassle i run locally only

indigo sandal
#

Is 2x done already

#

or today's last day?

deft gyro
#

done already

#

I only use codex local

#

its the first day of the wek

whole gate
deft gyro
#

and I have already used 5% of weekly quota

haughty plaza
desert junco
#

guys I don't know why, last week I was using codex for everthing and I didn't remember if I reached the limit, but this week I run 3 commands and 80% of 5h limite over in 20minutes, something happen?

desert junco
steady vigil
deft gyro
haughty plaza
#

• “Codex now uses x2 more” = the model (whatever “codex” refers to in your setup — probably the underlying code model or agent backend) now consumes twice as much of the limiting resource per minute of runtime.
• That limiting resource is almost always the thing your subscription/quota is measured in (tokens, compute credits, API calls, etc.).
• Your total budget for that resource hasn’t changed.
• So if the agent previously burned through the budget in 30 minutes, it will now burn through it twice as fast → 30 ÷ 2 = 15 minutes max runtime.

whole gate
haughty plaza
desert junco
deft gyro
#

Yes

desert junco
#

bro, the normal is not too good, I need more money for pay the 200$ plan

haughty plaza
steady vigil
whole gate
#

I will note that Codex does repeatedly introduce regressions into my RPC namespace due to a unique AST crawling quirk. Claude details it very clearly and explicitly and Codex still falls back to "correcting it" because it really hates making references and variables not the same term 🙂

haughty plaza
#

Guess we need to buy a mac studio m5 at 5k and run opensource models

#

Shame they will never be as good

whole gate
haughty plaza
#

I wonder what advencements there are in opensource models havent looked into it laterly im on a macbook m1 def not able to run anything decent

haughty plaza
whole gate
#

It's this, I basically had to beat Claude into submission to understand why this variable needs to be specifically 'module' but that it doesn't match the reference name. The app state has basically a registry of modules that are dynamically loaded on startup and registers them all by module name. Since that entire system is dynamic, there's no static code for the agent to undrstand why this variable mismatch is there.

#

I don't like AI touch my code directly, except for Codex. That is actually the only allowed pathway to prod.

haughty plaza
#

Nobody soijg multiple saas startups af the same time with codex i must be insane running 20 tabs

#

Well rhat dream is over now

#

I wait a few days fhen see if pro would be an option be in the mercy of opensi account closure anythine they want and nonrefunds discussions possible

cedar skiff
#

The same goes for the claude quirk, but it's not as relaiable as codex with skills so it will forget sometimes

whole gate
# cedar skiff The same goes for the claude quirk, but it's not as relaiable as codex with skil...

For sure, I basically just wrote a document that details this repeatedly and tell the agent to read it all. Actually this detail is also in the AGENTS.md where relevant as well, which was odd that Codex missed it. I'm doing a consistency pass in the namespace now, looks like there are several pattern deviations, which explains why it might fail. If it catches one instance of a more typical pattern it will lean into that.

cedar skiff
#

I noticed this as well it will lean into that. I was wondering why it kept defaulting to some function wrapper pattern instead of a class - it started doing it out of the blue. When i asked it it showed me the nearest pattern in the code base, which was also wrong. So letting that slip through can have it spread over time.

#

I was thinking i would wake up today to a nice shiny new spud

whole gate
#

I'm running a new A-B test on Claude vs Codex now. The prompt is too long to share, but it's a consistentcy and pattern refactor, about 140 lines long

#

So far Codex produced a plan, Claude is still thinking on it, but Claude is also spending time reading the MCP server for schema reflection.

ebon ingot
#

Codex 5 hours usage is insane it runs out in half of an hour😭

#

It didnt even finish half of the prompt 😂

cobalt junco
#

damn 2x usage is noticably gone.

whole gate
#

I might... consider switching back to Codex. I had Claude review the plan that Codex made and it did find an issue that Codex ignored, but it was a design issue on me. Otherwise Claude and Codex were in perfect alignment, but Codex did it about 3x faster... that's... appealing.

#

That being said, that was Claude Chat vs Codex Cloud

worn harness
#

highly suggest using cli, I've tried 5.4 over API via cursor and others and the quality is different compared to codex cli

whole gate
#

I don't allow AI to operate locally, in general, beyond just reading reference data.

#

I'm not sure I'd get any particular advantage out of that, my entire code build pipeline is set up in the Codex Cloud environment so it's working in a more realistic setting than my local system.

worn harness
#

I mean unless you are shipping live doesnt matter if you break the bindings every now and then, codex usually corrects pretty well unless you ship multiple bad versions

#

5.4 very rarely makes regressions, only then when I usually leave something open to interpretation

whole gate
#

This is all CICD live to test server

#

I do feature releases once feature/stability backlog sets are complete.

#

I literally just had Codex go through and correct 25 regressions it made earlier today lol

#

There are multiple notes in AGENTS and other documents calling out the pattern it broke 😉

worn harness
#

idk, would have to see code, hard to guess blind

whole gate
#

Oh, it's not a problem

#

Just observations, going quite well

#

This is just an A-B test betweel Claude and Codex on a pattern conformance task

#

Codex has been faster and similarly accurate, Claude noticed some details that violated the architecture that Codex missed.

#

They are all issues that could be fixed in subsequent reviews and tasks and don't break anything, so pretty minor.

#

I'm giving Codex the win on this round.

#

The main issue is that the objective here is that I get rid of this static RPC code that I do AST crawling on and instead generate the RPC typescript files from data in the database. The architectural violations come from logic in the service dispatcher. Which is what this is fixing, or trying to.

#

I've got the crawl populating the tables, making some additional enhancements to logging on the build generators to call out specifically found violations while crawling.

jagged pulsar
#

why cant codex rename its terminal?

white furnace
#

is the x2 rate for codex gone?

nocturne folio
nocturne folio
#

let them rip

vital hill
#

where is it?

tacit socket
#

damn i really feel that 2x drop off. my 5h limit taking a beating ha

potent mason
#

Oh wow I just realized how much usage I'm consuming. I'm guessing it's the same for everyone? (because of the 2x thing)

karmic grotto
#

I just ran out of my weekly limits on Plus... until Apr 8 ;`(

#

never ran into session limits at all

lean lark
#

OK, I give up. VSCode Codex Extension returns this on prompts:

Your access token could not be refreshed because your refresh token was already used. Please log out and sign in again.

There is no "log out" or "sign in" feature after the extension is installed.
What's the magic key that unlocks the great door to the Holy Codex? 🙂

deft sable
#

Looks like we'll be seeing reset again very soon lol.

tacit socket
#

I just setup codex-lb to balance my Plus account and Teams account. Works well 😮

lean lark
#

There are known issues on GH related to the access token situation, but I'm not seeing anything yet that helps me. Output log for Codex shows:

[error] [CodexMcpConnection] cli: message="... WARN codex_app_server::message_processor: failed to force-refresh directory apps after experimental feature enablement: Request failed with status 401 Unauthorized: ... Provided authentication token is expired. Please try signing in again. ... code: token_expired
[error] [CodexMcpConnection] cli: message="... ERROR codex_login::auth::manager: Failed to refresh token: 401 Unauthorized

I'm not using MCP in this environment yet. 🙁
I don't know where it stores Codex access tokens or how it tries to refresh them.

I can go neanderthal on this and delete the extension and OpenAI folders to clear cache, but I'd rather not.

I'll continue to look at GH issues. 😢

#

Hmmm - I opened the CLI and it wanted to do an update. I did that and restarted. Then used the "/logout" command. Then restarted. On restart it needed a new login, launched the browser, did the login. Restarted CLI again and it worked. Then VSCode extension worked.
Solution to : "Your access token could not be refreshed because your refresh token was already used. Please log out and sign in again." 401 Unauthorized

cedar parcel
potent mason
boreal holly
#

I guess I must be doing something wrong because 5.4 works pretty much flawlessly

#

I'm like the one and only person maybe on the planet who experiences nothing but excellent performance with 5.4

cedar parcel
lean lark
#

Yeah, with just a couple exceptions, I've been continually impressed with 5.4.
Robert pointed to a page that describes nuances of how to work with 5.4. See OpenAI docs.

junior fog
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5.4 is highly effective, but its significant token usage causes the weekly limit to be reached too quickly

lean lark
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Turn off Fast processing and you'll reduce your token usage significantly.

cedar parcel
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It just doesn't gather enough context so it can't produce positive results that way I don't know how it could ever work.

lean lark
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sigh - I wrote a paper the other day about this very topic. I need to clean it up a bit and publish somewhere. It got too long with too much detail, which is kinda required for this deep topic. I'll see what I can do. Watch this space. 😉

lean lark
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Oh right, and 5.4-mini is also a great way to save tokens.

boreal holly
# cedar parcel It just doesn't gather enough context so it can't produce positive results that ...

You have to give it a personality. Not necessarily in how it responds to you, but how it's supposed to think. For example I give mine "adversarial, pragmatic software engineer". If it has no personality then it will basically be a thoughtless task executor. Also give it an output contract like "files touched and why, validation performed" so it knows before it responds to you, it has to look at what files it touched, and it has to perform some kind of validation. No output contract, it will resort to doing the bare minimum to finish as quick as possible

sacred minnow
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i forgot rate limits changed and ate 10% of my pro plan xD

boreal holly
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5.4 output contract is a huge win. Tell it how it's supposed to respond every time, and make the output contract in such a way that they must review their work and think about what they did

lean lark
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We've discussed this a number of times : Document in AGENTS.md how to do what you want it to do. Get it to create comments for all functions and to update procedure docs, functionality specs, README's, and CHANGELOGs. When you give it a new task it will rely on existing documentation rather than having to relearn the entire project with every new task.

cedar parcel
# boreal holly You have to give it a personality. Not necessarily in how it responds to you, bu...

I do all that, and it even went out to rewrite the task description so it could meet the acceptance criteria without having to do heavy coding work. If I handhold it I can make it produce some kind of results but still I have to fight it and check it. 5.2 just does the work and does it perfectly 8/10 times and the 2 cases it doesn't it's usually due to human error or it's just something needing more human insight and guidance (front end).

sacred minnow
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Actually got some really nice results with front end 👌

vital hill
sacred minnow
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Its funny reading reddit I swear half the problems most have i have not experienced

vital hill
#

Thought codex 5.4 was out already

potent mason
cedar skiff
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seems like they have picked path of general model

#

over all they have so many options but not enough resources (probably) so sora got the chopping block, codex got the chopping block. And they are building spud

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spud probably going to come with a app (eventually) that brings everything together for everyone. Like a mega app

leaden heron
#

is anyone elses rate limit also bugged? literally 3 prompts is my entire 5 hr limit

cyan wing
#

i swear Codex is giving me nightmares about the words authoring and cutover
they show up everywhere for some reason
IYKYK

next ore
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2x limit is extended

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i coded 14 hours today to take full advantage of it before it expired

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at least it got me working lol

next ore
oak trellis
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codex is MUCH better than opus right now

#

did a test running both .. and oy vey ... cc messed up created me errors then fixed its errors .. and had still errors. codex super smart detecting it surg..fixing it

cedar skiff
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I find codex thinks i shouldnt change code some times, it tends to make things more complicated that it needs to be, some times introduces abstractions for no reason etc. Then when i say get rid of it , it always comes back with it's doing real work but it isnt o.0. So i worked out i can to say steel man removing it. And it will do its best to justify the simplification rather than doing its best to be diligent and not remove something important.

#

Because it always finds a justification to keep almost every abstraction it made.

#

giving it the steel man task most times it comes back with this should be flattened or this is mostly ceremony

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and it gets the right perspective straight away

#

It also highlights the actual real work it is doing (if any) not the flakey ideas it has when you just ask it normally

solemn acorn
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could also just remove the dead code yourself

cedar skiff
leaden heron
# next ore you must be doing some insane prompts

nah its not even about the prompt or the 2x limits, if it was about the prompt it shouldn't be burning through 30% usage just looking at a couple files and reasoning, then another 10% to write the code. when it was 2x limits my average prompt only used 5%

#

on my life im not tweaking bro

cyan wing
plucky halo
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Second time in two days! 😭

fallow steppe
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I’ve been using Claude Code lately, but since they’ve significantly tightened the limits, it seems to run out quickly. Some Claude Code users have started switching to Codex—I switched to Codex myself and felt a huge sense of relief.

spring snow
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Good morning, what does this message mean ? "Selected model is at capacity. Please try a different model."

spring snow
cedar skiff
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lets just hope its because they are rolling out a new model

spring snow
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gpt 5.4-codex ?

cedar skiff
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spud

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they hinted at it being the next model

#

codex models are probaly a thing of the past

cyan wing
neat sinew
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They're probably gonna introduce a new tier, Codex Max or something

oak trellis
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ok couldnt send that but reached my weekly limit ..

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question ... i reached my weekly limit within 2 days is that normal ?

#

i reached the weekly limit before my 5h limit

cyan wing
oak trellis
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it says 5h limit 93% weekly limit is 100% ..

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confused

neat sinew
#

So you're burning through your limit fast now that you're wired in

oak trellis
neat sinew
#

You mean buy 2 Plus?

oak trellis
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yes

#

2 seats .. Business plan

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54 usd is ok based on the quality ..

neat sinew
#

If one can resume context from others

oak trellis
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yes you can

slow verge
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Hello everyone—are you able to use Sora 2 right now? For the past couple of days, my account has been showing “out of video gens.” when i gen video.

oak trellis
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hmm now confused limits different i read biz has no more sub but is token based .. so better 2 subs plus ..

young locust
slow verge
#

So do we need to buy the Plus or Pro plan, then?

oak trellis
#

question too .. would like to have like 50 usd plan ..

#

so the 5h limit eats up the total weekly limit ..

leaden heron
#

its worth it but its like 2 plus subscriptions doe

#

same thing

oak trellis
#

what you using ?

leaden heron
leaden heron
oak trellis
#

and you code all day never hit limits total?

#

i so 1 seat = 1 plus

leaden heron
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well today i hit limits but i think its cuz of the rate limit bug

oak trellis
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oh ok

leaden heron
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since i have used plus before and it was terrible

#

you also get access to pro which is pretty cool

oak trellis
#

ok makes sense. So in general you feel 1 biz seat is worth more then 1 sub plus

leaden heron
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yes 100%

oak trellis
#

perfect will do that now

leaden heron
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especially after they lowered prices

oak trellis
#

the 5.4 model is perfect for me right now (backend)

#

thx a lot for helping me out 🙂

#

last question if i update now the plus will be gone i guess ..

leaden heron
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yeah youll just have to cancel your plus

slow verge
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With the Plus plan, how many video generations can I make per day?

plucky halo
oak trellis
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now i have that issue .. localhost refused to connect .. try to login and it gives me that

wicked briar
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I had some issue yesterday codex said token was refreshed please relogin

#

but it was after 2 months

oak trellis
# wicked briar yo

ok so i just used different way login into the CLI .. but the extension is different hmm

#

problem iam logged into cli but not extension haha

wicked briar
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had to turn off fast mode after 2x limits are over

wicked briar
oak trellis
wicked briar
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maybe reboot

#

ide

oak trellis
#

the code quality is same with fast off?

oak trellis
wicked briar
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I mean claude is still the useful to me due to front end task

#

codex just make slop

#

fr

oak trellis
wicked briar
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yeah

#

thats why i have both

#

and will keep both

oak trellis
#

same same

#

2x codex 1x 100 max

wicked briar
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waiting for new codex plan

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$100 one

#

I wish codex team put some focus on front end

#

it just overengineer's simple stuff

#

its like factually doing what im saying but that UI is not appealing at all

oak trellis
#

yes agree!

oak trellis
wicked briar
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yes

#

you should see the fast toggle in UI as well

oak trellis
#

yes found it .. was already on standard

orchid plume
# wicked briar waiting for new codex plan

yeah I was hoping it would be yesterday but we only got the codex-only pay as you go seat for business/enterprise it seems. I'm not sure if we'll see it today. At least in my country it's a public holiday today, not sure about the USA or the state that OpenAI's HQ is in though

#

Pro $200/mo expires on the 6th here hence why I was hoping it would show up 😄

velvet marlin
#

Hey all, any RN devs here?

wicked briar
#

I actually got my pro renewed for this month but next month I'll downgrade

orchid plume
#

just checked California's public holidays, today isn't a public holiday so maybe we see it today (optimistic perhaps 😂)

wicked briar
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let's see

#

bro casually saying v2 fr

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I wonder cli or app

orchid plume
#

Codex app is version 20 something, CLI is 0 point something, so maybe he means website

wicked briar
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is it worth using codex app or should I continue using cli

orchid plume
wicked briar
#

same

#

CLI is the goat

orchid plume
#

true

oak trellis
#

hmm how the limits are calcualted so if iam on 5.4 high (not fast -> standard) ..weekly limits hits faster than 5 hours limits .. dont think so right ?

orchid plume
oak trellis
#

that would make sense ..

orchid plume
#

only time I ever consumed my 5 hour quota on Pro was due to a bug I introduced when experimenting with subagents on Codex CLI before they were officially implemented

oak trellis
#

i mean should be at least 2x 5 hour daily and 5 days ... ?!

#

ok eric back ..

#

haha

orchid plume
#

yeah, I'd say 4 or 5 times

cedar skiff
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I just aim for 15% a day

wicked briar
#

💀

orchid plume
#

yeah that's a good target, so you have quota for the week

oak trellis
wicked briar
#

what plan you on?/

oak trellis
#

20 usd now

orchid plume
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oof, limits on that plan will be noticeably lower 😛

wicked briar
#

I was gonna ask eric

oak trellis
wicked briar
#

forgot to tag him

oak trellis
#

plus -> biz (hella said is better) .. i just wanna consum from my girlfriend hers quick then thought biz

orchid plume
cedar skiff
oak trellis
wicked briar
#

i only have codex pro and cc max 5x

cedar skiff
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i did have cc max5 as well but i didnt use it enough so i dropped to the minimax and openrouter

oak trellis
#

cheap plus wanna migrate to biz .. and 5x claude

orchid plume
#

I just have ChatGPT Pro and Qwen 3.5 27b locally at the moment

wicked briar
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afaik

cedar skiff
#

yeah, but it has a bunch of free models you can use i put in 10 credits and get 1k req a day on free models

#

so atm i use qwen 3.6

#

It can do decent work

wicked briar
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hmm

#

qwen is good

cedar skiff
#

i mean when i just have a simple change that covers a few files it works good

oak trellis
#

@cedar skiff is there any noticable difference between medium and high on 5.4 ?

#

depends of what i do of course ..

cedar skiff
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little bit yeah, it just feels like it short cuts a bit on medium. It doesnt talk back as much ahah

#

like on high and xhigh it'll think it knows better and argue

#

I just give the old, i don't need your opinion just do the work!

oak trellis
#

true lol ..

#

i like that it reflects itself while doing stuff .. better than opus for what i do

cedar skiff
#

I think 5.4 xhigh can be a bit worse because sometimes for a big task it can get almost all the way to compaction without having done much out side of research... then it compacts and loses all the research. So high seems like the sweet spot

wicked briar
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are you using fast

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with high

oak trellis
#

oh wow yes so 5h limits on 93% and weekly is on 97%

#

its consumes fast now lol

clever steppe
#

@barren sluice We absolutely need the ability to rename a Codex chat in VS Code. I have tried starting a chat with "Title this chat FOO", but it never works.

#

Even a simple /rename function would do the trick for now if it's too hard to work it into a context menu.

sour burrow
#

We need a toggle to switch back to the old 'concentrated sessions' way of consuming rate limit. I can barely get a single decently sized task down now without getting throttled to waiting another 5 hours.

past prairie
#

Guys do you prefer gpt 5.3 codex high or gpt 5.4 ?

ember spindle
#

dude... codex is SOOO OP bruh... also i like GPT 5.4 xhigh...

#

dude... rlly? especailly in the openai discord?

kindred meteor
#

i thought it was the JSS server

wicked briar
high hawk
#

Codex is very powerful and very good tools for developers.i tred this tool for 1 week and it is found to be very useful for my coding projects

sand shuttle
#

hwo exactly od iuse code review?

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on the codex website?

wicked briar
sand shuttle
wicked briar
#

yes

sand shuttle
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i used /review in cli

#

but its consumping my normal usage

#

not code review

#

i gave it some instruction after /review review my local files..xyz instructions

winged depot
sand shuttle
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ah ok

#

makes sense

sour burrow
#

Triggering code review via the proper channel does not make local changes FYI. It suggests repo changes in the cloud (GH).

#

Also you can use Codex Security for free right now on business accounts and that doesn't count towards your usage either - I highly recommend it. You only get 5 repo slots but worth it.

obtuse slate
clever steppe
#

Unfortunately the chats don't even show up in Codex.

obtuse slate
#

What about when you start them in codex app? And then switch to vscode

clever steppe
#

I have not yet tested this, but thanks for the suggestion. I'll install Codex.

#

Has anyone got both Codex & VS Code installed?

woeful crown
#

Yes, Codex CLI and the vscode extension should share chats. They both write to ~/.codex/sessions afaik

tiny kettle
#

Anyone use the Codex Security thing?

#

Am I missing something on how to trigger scans? It should see when I commit and rescan, right? I made commits yesterday it's still not picked up on.

#

or am I just being impatient and it's like a once a week thing

clever steppe
safe holly
#

How does that work? Any more info? What kind of deployment are we talking here?

sour burrow
#

It's not once a week though, we get more frequent scans than that.

#

Also make sure you didn't inadvertently pause the scan. I created more than 5 initially not realizing the limit and it paused the first ones I set up.

tiny kettle
#

I've only got the one scan set up

ornate jolt
#

realllly want them to come out with a 100 dollar plan so i can finally ditch claude its legit the only thing stopping me

nocturne folio
#

oh 2x isnt permanent? okay......

plucky halo
wide barn
#

I'm on Codex Web, and Codex says it couldn't capture the screen because the browser_container is missing. How do I fix this?

deft gyro
deft gyro
#

5.4 mini is simply comically cheap and can typically do a single task

#

5.4 can usually take regular human speech to 1 to 5 tasks

#

5.2 can create something from scratch

#

you can see 5.2 = 5.3 codex per Mtoken

#

in reality 5.2 is slightly more expensive because it plans more, but if you are using it, it is for that very capability

#

all in all 5.4 mini is simply too cheap to ignore

vital hill
deft gyro
#

It’s mildly cheaper than 5.4

#

But i could just use the far cheaper 5.4 mini for most of those tasks

#

Allowing me to allocate more compute budget to those high complexity tasks

#

Which I would rather use the more intelligent 5.4 or the more thorough 5.2

vital hill
#

i wish they'd release the ssh feature for the codex desktop app

undone bobcat
#

When I hit the limit and i'm mid-task, like now, will it pick up where it left off when my rate limit resets?

frigid sigil
frosty zealot
vital hill
frosty zealot
#

Oh gotcha

vital hill
#

the desktop app is fairly new so hopefully they'll release that feature sometime soon

past prairie
vital hill
#

instead of opening hella terminals

leaden heron
#

and cuz last month there was 2x on the codex app

worn harness
#

aw

#

where's my 100 plan

past prairie
vital hill
#

for vscode and its forks

twilit bluff
cedar parcel
#

i dont know how but this happened....

cyan wing
cedar parcel
#

5h jumps around too

#

the token burn bug in live action?

glacial shadow
#

Is this confirmed to be in the works?

cedar parcel
#

yeah to say the least lol

glacial shadow
leaden heron
cedar parcel
#

also, look at various terminals showing different stats for 5h and weekly

leaden heron
#

that depends on if you used codex recently in that terminal

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its not live