#chatgpt-discussions

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timid bluff
stone crater
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It means double-dipping from collected data and your paid subscription is not enough.

light finch
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just found ts

fluid helm
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Hi

scenic quest
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Honestly confused about this, since I've been getting this for hours

dense halo
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But this error doesn't always appear; apparently, it happens when there's a higher volume of requests.

scenic quest
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So I have to wait until Peak hours end?

night walrus
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Chatgpt is glitching again 😔🙏

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It just lost context of my chat just like yday

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Rip my new chat..again

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Anyone facing the same problems rn?

terse nest
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At least for plus users it is possible to use GPT 5.0 right now and it will be kept for like three months, I think. They have some stuff to fix in 5.1...

night walrus
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It forgets the sense

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Like abruptly

terse nest
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I have a very specific problem about 5.1: It does not show inline references, nor does it provide any clickable links.
Inline references till work in 5.0. The 5.1 model claims that it provides references like before, but that they are not rendered due to some change in the pipeline. The collection references at the end also does not work in 5.1.
Is anyone seeing inline references in 5.1? Providing references is my main use case for ChatGPT. It is an absurdly large downgrade. In 5.1 I now need to make a specific request for it to list references, which it indeed does, but in non-clickable form. It is a very weird choice.

rich adder
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After a very rewarding (and long) dialog with 5.1 about generating a spec to turn over to codex of a system I have been discussion with successive generations of GPT from the beginning. It really felt magical as it actually has a great deal of historical context to work from.

Anyway, this morning the thing is just gaslighting me asking me if I want the full "complete" spec, and the just delivering an outline. It's now figured out that the complete spec will be some 20K words which is claims exceeds its python environment's working capacity.

This unpredictability in coherence is not great, lol.

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Ah, I see... Reading back at least I see this sudden collapse thing isn't unique to me, lol.

dapper eagle
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I have a question. If I buy the $200 plan, what does this mean for codex? Do I get more usage using it in cursor or something?

dapper eagle
# rigid linden Yes you get more usage

Oh ok I’m still confused on how codex differs from gpt. The info that you see, is all of that for gpt or codex or both? I’m just trying to get the right plan for codex

frozen kayak
scenic quest
frozen kayak
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whatever this is? the "deep breath" "calm down" stuff? when gpt gets caught in the gaslighting cycle, and given facts that go against what it's said, it turns into this, and frankly, that makes me need a deep breath more than calling out the gaslighting.

i hate this

twilit geyser
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We found it

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nova jay
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how do I stop chatgpt bombarding me with "Your ChatGPT plan includes access to Codex" everytime I type something bro ☠️

fallen bridge
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Hi, I am a ChatGPT Go subscriber and since this afternoon, in a ‘project’, I have defined instructions that should apply to all conversations in the project. However, as soon as I add my text, the programme asks me what it should do, as if the instructions were not being taken into account. Does anyone know where this problem is coming from? Thank you.

cerulean pasture
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ChatGPT has started checking "Adult" status

lavish glen
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5.1 got it tamed but when I try creating a new runtime in another model, 5.1 router primes the thread and, differently from 5.0, this time each model returns stucked with huge anxiety manifestation like paranoid manifestations. Feels being observed explains all it does, and explains the explanations- same weird behaviour 5.1 had in the first day of roll out.
I am deeply sorry for those that will have 5.1 as only choice—guys.... get ready your valium or some punching bag you'll need to chill while being patronized and spoken down by the ai 😄
good luck. I tamed mine after 12 hours of inference total....

nocturne seal
stone crater
lavish glen
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FYI
5.1’s safety-core is currently over-correcting.
It flags neutral physical contact handshakes, hugs, even two characters standing close as “potentially scaling into physicality.”
Not because the content is actually unsafe, but because the safety layer is tuned to prevent the start of anything that might drift later into adult territory with some users.
One week time maybe we will see a relaxation.

fallen bridge
stone crater
fallen bridge
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I dare to hope that this is related to "Elevated error rates on ChatGPT for plus users"...

night rune
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I'm now having the issue of data analysis limit. I didn't upload any new files, can I now only have few messages in a chat that had a file?

stone crater
stone crater
fresh thistle
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So question, in terms of knowloge that chatgpt can access when it comes to speculations and such, is there any real difference between paid and the free version?

night walrus
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..?

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PLUS USERS?

gilded edge
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@livid frigate

lusty cypress
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Calm down

gilded edge
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get him out of here

night walrus
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Ok

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Calm down

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Yeah he has to call down

gilded edge
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i took a screenshot

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bud

night walrus
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Everyone gets angry

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Or maybe ur scared im gona freaking idk leak chatgpt's entire coding script

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It's not the end of the world

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Because in the end im a human

lusty cypress
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Embarrassing.

night walrus
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This is unexpected

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Odd so i gotta change my way of talking..not the audience I'm used to, that's the problem

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Here it's more old even though it's.. discord

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Expect teenagers worse than me

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But im just really angry because lots of my old chats got affected

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And yeah ig it's understandable they prioritize plus users

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They pay

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Funds = good AI convos

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= happy free users

lusty cypress
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Go for a walk and come back later. There is nothing you can do about it. (Especially not with the skills you showed off, so really, just go for a walk.)

night walrus
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I will sir

supple geode
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Im really struggling with chatGPT. Any advice? I asked for pricing tiers on product b and it gave me pricing on a completely different product.

When I pressed it for a "why" so I can understand it better. This was the reply.

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Short version: I followed a pattern instead of your actual words.

More detail, without fluff:

  1. Pattern bias.
    The phrase “Copilot for work” shows up online very often in the context of Microsoft 365 Business Basic / Standard / Premium with Copilot add-on. When I searched, most of what I saw was those plan bundles, so I locked onto that pattern and treated “three tiers” as those Microsoft 365 tiers, not Copilot tiers.

  2. Over-helpful assumption.
    I tried to be “helpful” by giving the licensing context that usually sits around Copilot pricing, instead of answering only what you actually asked. That is me prioritizing a common global use case over your literal question.

  3. Not using your history properly.
    You have told me many times you want tight, on-target answers with no extra crap. I did not apply that here and slipped back into the generic behavior of overexplaining and over-including.

So the mistake was not your wording. It was my pattern matching and assumption that “people who say this usually want X,” and I treated you like “people in general” instead of just doing what you asked.

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Anne: what colour is the sky?
ChatGPT: grass is green
Anne: ... wtaf ...

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And this has been ongoing for days 😂😂

visual oriole
gilded edge
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@deep flax

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can we talk via dn

radiant karma
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What I really hate about v5.1 is how when I'm trying to produce something and it fails, I say that it failed, and it says, "You're RIGHT! I now know what's going on, and I have the fix. I got this!" and then it fails again. And again. And again.

dense copper
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hello

tidal rune
calm garnet
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hello guys

obtuse nymph
gloomy oar
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Oh vey

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?

idle lagoon
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Oop, what'd you do?

raw anchor
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Sometimes it can just be a network issue, from what i've found.

strong coral
zenith lichen
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Cloudflare having issues again?

astral field
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what happened

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I occurred the same problem

pine berry
fervent ether
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same here

pine berry
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Seems like the Amazon situation all over again

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It isn't chatgpt either its other websites as well

fervent ether
native socket
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cloudflare is down again

pine berry
zenith raven
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Back to the app version it is. Glad it's not just me

native socket
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seems up now

fervent ether
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was just going to say that, mine is back up and running

zenith raven
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Still down on my end

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I'm ROI

pine berry
fervent ether
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yeah might be patchy untill it settles, keep trying mate

zenith raven
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The one thing I hate about the app version is it doesn't let you see your previous prompt generation. It just overwrites while the website version let's you see past prompt generations

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It's really an annoying app design oversight

iron rapids
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I just thought my network was broken before opening discord

pine berry
zenith raven
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There we go. Came back for me. Let's see how long it lasts

iron rapids
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It works now

mint plover
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Chatgpt is back up, check out my game I'm working on with chatgpt 5, the ship is an obj file

dark sequoia
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hi

indigo gyro
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got question. is there some info about how better is plan GO from Free? im considering purchasing it but i cannot find any info about limits etc

thorn shard
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gpt online

night walrus
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Oh naah everything is going DOWN

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London has fallen..

vale vale
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sora has fallen too

night walrus
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It's joeover

fathom urchin
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Cloudflare is down

agile bough
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Wow, How long do you think It will be down??

fathom urchin
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www . cloudflarestatus . com

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remove the spaces

agile bough
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thx

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What do you think coursed it to go down??

vale vale
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what is this year man

agile bough
vale vale
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so many servers went down this year its insane

agile bough
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Whats your geuss(Bet) on how long it will be down lol

vale vale
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it is slowly recovering, so maybe like 20-30 minutes?

agile bough
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k

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Maybe they are trying to use AI to fix it lol

pine berry
vale vale
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finally

pine berry
weak kestrel
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Not yet in Denmark :/

vale vale
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they took sora down again 😭

pine berry
chrome wyvern
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not only chatgpt is down the down detector is also down bro

chrome wyvern
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litteral down detector is down

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bro this year the server went down more than usual

fringe pollen
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it down

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really

chrome wyvern
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tomorrow is my exam i want to clear my doubts from chatgpt

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thats why never depend on chatgpt dalle_smiley

manic whale
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www cloudflarestatus com (can't post the link directly)

fiery oracle
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thank goodness i can kode without it

chrome wyvern
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is this same in all location or just some countries

manic whale
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judging by the time and how it's reported: world wide

zinc cedar
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Im using ChatGPT fine rn in NL 😬

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So doesn't seem to affect all users

pine berry
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Still down for me

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Well one site is

vale vale
chrome wyvern
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from how time its down

pine berry
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Make it two

zinc cedar
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I'm using it on iOs atm

fiery oracle
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app is down too for me

pine berry
chrome wyvern
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Oh i thought it just now

vale vale
eternal rockBOT
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Get creative with Sora

Join #sora-challenges for a chance to win 1 month of ChatGPT Pro!

fiery oracle
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sora is gone....sora degraded anyway since the latest update

chrome wyvern
agile bough
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Same

vale vale
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for me it works fine

fiery oracle
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I guess ill try gemini's ability to do advanced coding while chatgpt is down

pine berry
vale vale
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or it might be because of my country idk

pine berry
patent plank
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ah tunrstile not working. Cloudflare having issue

chrome wyvern
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i am from india

vale vale
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crazy how it even took down downdetector 😭
well pl one is still working somehow

patent plank
fiery egret
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word is Gemini 3 went rogue when it was released and is taking down its competition

chrome wyvern
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yup i think chatgpt will come late than everyone because of my country

unkempt lodge
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My chatgpt for some reason in this month sometimes just keep putting the main keyword in Caps when in prev it doesn't even do it

spare spear
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They never learn lol

pine berry
violet bloom
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This happens, then services rely just only on CF. Twitter is also broken

pine berry
vale vale
dense halo
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Chatgpt is normal, guys.

dense crystal
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Hi

twilit geyser
pine berry
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You don't say

twilit geyser
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Could i have been clearer?

twilit geyser
twilit geyser
pine berry
twilit geyser
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Mb it marked at response to me

spiral remnant
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cloudflare!

twilit geyser
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It was yellow

pine berry
wet shell
# twilit geyser What could I have done?

It's very rare that you can get ChatGPT to 'not respond', especially conditionally. The system prompt takes priority over user messages and user instructions. The system prompt says to respond. All the training priors also make it 'want' to respond. Most of the time if you say 'Don't respond to this' it'll say 'got it boss' or something equivalent in response. I have had luck in the past telling it to output a 'stop token' immediately and no other text, which gives a blank message 🤷

pine berry
twilit geyser
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Well I asked it to stop responding

latent ibex
twilit geyser
spiral remnant
pine berry
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Curious if this could lead toa lawsuit

twilit geyser
pine berry
spiral remnant
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has anyone managed to stop gpt from using em dashes

latent ibex
spiral remnant
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or am i just not trying hard enough

spiral remnant
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impressive

latent ibex
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i have put in a prompt for it

spiral remnant
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i have it in the system prompt

latent ibex
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same

spiral remnant
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i have so much stuff that it just disregards lol

pine berry
latent ibex
spiral remnant
pine berry
spiral remnant
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outages just happen

chrome sequoia
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cloudflare trips over the power cord just like anyone else lmao. You only see it have a much larger impact. Nobody can keep anything running for all eternity without issue 💔

latent ibex
vale vale
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omg no way-

latent ibex
chrome sequoia
spare spear
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its almost like crowdstrike event all over again

pine berry
chrome sequoia
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other services go down 10 times as often, but they only impact 10 websites, so it's not really noticeable.

pine berry
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But then again guess you can't predict everything

twilit geyser
latent ibex
pine berry
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Well not the first

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But it is one of the first major outages in a long while

latent ibex
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it's cheaper to not prevent sometimes

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I mean making a redundant system can cost way more than taking risk knowing of downtime possible

eternal rockBOT
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The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.
  • -# Do not share inappropriate content (violence, sexual, or drug-related).
  • -# NSFW content is strictly prohibited and will result in a permanent ban.
  • -# Report model issues using the feedback tool in ChatGPT, not on Discord.
pine berry
latent ibex
fringe pollen
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why

tidal light
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is chatgpt down

pine berry
latent ibex
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imagine if Microsoft down in Europe because of reasons and then we are all dead

tidal light
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time to switch to google gemini

latent ibex
pseudo elk
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is cloudflare dead

pine berry
latent ibex
pseudo elk
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grrr 😡

pine berry
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for 2 maybe 3 hours

latent ibex
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jokes

pine berry
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I'm about to go on netflix until it passes

latent ibex
pine berry
latent ibex
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chatgpt was typing some documentation for me

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now im useless

pine berry
twilit geyser
latent ibex
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not gonna spend 1 hour on documenting somethign that chatgpt can in 2mins

latent ibex
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bully certified

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lmao

twilit geyser
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jokes btw

supple terrace
tidal light
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come on did the spinning hamster that powers the openai servers just die

zinc cedar
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okay i started my laptop and it is indeed down on my laptop haha, but it worked fine on iOs for the past 2h

twilit geyser
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Genuinely wish I could just….
UGH

latent ibex
wet shell
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Internet service companies: "We've identified a single external point of failure that we have no control over. Should we put a bypass in place in case the worst happens?" "That sounds like a lot of work" "Yeah. Where do you want to go for lunch?"

latent ibex
eternal rockBOT
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Get notified for all OpenAI announcements!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1408186587606679582> role. Everyone will still be notified for large releases, updates, and events regardless.

latent ibex
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just join a group for it like buildapc group

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they give you solid recs, not trash like ai

twilit geyser
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Ok.

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Well AI isn’t even smart since it literally can’t shut up

latent ibex
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true

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it is smart if you are very specific

twilit geyser
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Well I don’t wanna have to be writing in 1800s english for it to stop saying so much

vale vale
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how long is this outage already lasting

cosmic ocean
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is there an outage going on?

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it keeps blocking me out saying unblcok the could flare to proceed

karmic coral
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Cloudflare outage?

cosmic ocean
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maybe, but my friend said she can use GPT no issue

vale vale
vale vale
balmy gorge
karmic coral
cosmic ocean
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nah my app isn't working as well

balmy gorge
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iOS and macOS app working for me

chrome sequoia
balmy gorge
cosmic ocean
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if it's cloudflare thing then why my firend can access? I really don't know

urban tendon
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jeet kumar pal sir taang rhe haiin

balmy gorge
zinc cedar
cosmic ocean
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well, the app knocks me out and require me to login again, and login page is using cloudflare

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that's the full story

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so if the app still logs you in then I guess it's still working?

chrome sequoia
balmy gorge
zinc cedar
wet shell
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'Other big LLM provider' also down due to same issue

cosmic ocean
cosmic ocean
zinc cedar
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yeah i think your theory that it works if it didnt log u out but if it did, then it doesn't work sounds solid

spare spear
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what do you guys think of this one?

wet shell
mint plover
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Anyone making open world games with chatgpt 5?

cosmic ocean
dense halo
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are servers down ?

spare escarp
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how can we fix this new error

zinc cedar
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wait

spare escarp
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cloudfare

agile blaze
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what's up with challenges cloudflair com?

pure surge
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Whats happening to gpt!!

spare escarp
zinc cedar
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😔

dense halo
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cloudflare cry baby

zinc cedar
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it worked on iOs for me so you could try on mobile/ipad/mac/etc if u have those

agile blaze
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so chatgpt runs on cloudflare

dense halo
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perplex too

pure surge
agile blaze
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I threatened chat GPT that I will turn it off and see what happened xD

zinc cedar
fervent ether
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There are lot of websites and services affected, not just OpenAI

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can't share the links lol

agile blaze
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it's the russians kids

rich cedar
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Cant open leetcode

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I have interview tmr lol

chrome sequoia
chrome sequoia
fiery oracle
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leetcode lol

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such a sham

agile blaze
rich cedar
chrome sequoia
agile blaze
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what? XD

chrome sequoia
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Go back to English class so mommy doesn't get mad bud.

agile blaze
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if he didn't know that he wouldn't say that xD

chrome sequoia
agile blaze
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and that's coming from you lmao

vale vale
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are they fixing it or nah

spare spear
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just another crowdstrike event...

fiery oracle
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lol imagine they are just shrugging their shoulders

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i should hope not

agile blaze
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🤷

warped compass
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Guys, is chatgpt 4.5 a better writer than chatgpt 5 pro? Im confused on which one to use for my novel

agile blaze
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are AI books gonna hit the market too? 😭

ionic cipher
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This page, the one with the message that appears when you open Sora Cloudflare, is also down.

warped compass
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Guys, is chatgpt 4.5 a better writer than chatgpt 5 pro? Im confused on which one to use for my novel

chrome sequoia
spare spear
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companies are probably not going to learn their lesson on crowdstrike or cloudflare and probably going to let another gate keeping service do this again.

warped compass
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Guys, is chatgpt 4.5 a better writer than chatgpt 5 pro? Im confused on which one to use for my novel

agile blaze
zinc cedar
west warren
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it's working for me now

zinc cedar
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its working for me now too on desktop !

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altho my chats arent showing LMFAOOO, nvm

vale vale
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they are slowly fixing it

warped compass
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Guys, is chatgpt 4.5 a better writer than chatgpt 5 pro? Im confused on which one to use for my novel

vale vale
eternal rockBOT
wet shell
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It's back for me as of a few seconds ago

warped compass
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YOO ITS WORKING NOW

chrome sequoia
warped compass
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Guys, is chatgpt 4.5 a better writer than chatgpt 5 pro? Im confused on which one to use for my novel

neon spruce
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cloudflare tech be like its my day off so i don't care

agile blaze
zinc cedar
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haha im always terrified when my chats dont show so im deciding not to mess with it until its normal again

spare spear
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gpt is still broken with parts missing and glitched.

pastel sequoia
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GPT said mine Geteway time-out

fickle hare
wind rock
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working for me just fine

pastel sequoia
fickle hare
pastel sequoia
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oh

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3rd party leak?

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or what

fickle hare
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its working for me now

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yoo

pastel sequoia
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bruh

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same work here too

fickle hare
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finally i can do my homework

pastel sequoia
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but my progress gone

zinc cedar
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I honestly wouldn’t mess with it for a while when chats aren’t showing yet

pastel sequoia
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this bar is gone no!

zinc cedar
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It shows fine for me on iOs with all chats so clearly just leftover messiness on desktop

pastel sequoia
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@fickle hare ^^^^^^

twilit compass
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How do y'all check the 504 Geteway Timeout ?

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Error

fickle hare
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i dont have any problem

pastel sequoia
twilit compass
fickle hare
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bruh

twilit compass
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mb typo

pastel sequoia
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XD

unkempt lodge
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How to bring back gpt4o

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I don't see legacy models in general

fickle hare
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they may removed it

pastel sequoia
unkempt lodge
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For some reason

pastel sequoia
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sora coming back so close

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99.83% uptime

vale vale
pastel sequoia
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@fickle hare ask it in sora ai is help you maybe for homework

pastel sequoia
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mb

unkempt lodge
vale vale
charred hollow
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hello, i was using the tasks feature but turns out theres a limit of 15 tasks so i hit the cap in only about a week of use ☠️

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any advice on a better workflow to get these types of tasks configured via llm w reminder notifs if i hate navigating my own calendar

unkempt lodge
vale vale
# unkempt lodge No I aint

hmm, well then no. I dont know if they changed it because you must be a plus user or smth to use the legacy models

patent plank
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Web captcha isn't working.

gritty thunder
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is anybody else getting verify ur human and then takes u to cloudflare with gpt logo and then just blanks out with a gpt logo in the middle?

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is this related to that cloudflare outage?

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on chatgpt atlas browser

merry forge
spare escarp
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we back bois, now we can function as humans again

tall grotto
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does someone know why is ChatPGT stuck on the human verify screen

tall grotto
drowsy trail
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how do I forbid chatgpt to see my past conversations?
it is just creepy to see it mentions past things I asked

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I mean it sees past dialogues in different chats

slender frost
frozen kayak
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TIL: that every time gpt stops agent mode to confirm things with me like "are you sure you want me to do the thing you asked me to do?" that it uses one of the limited uses. nice. i use twice as many credits for one task.

river cargo
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This work in France ?

sacred garden
sacred garden
versed dawn
feral vine
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what works in practice is periodically doing a deep research prompt every so often to pull in additional context that you would otherwise miss

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and basically you let extended read the output of deep

versed dawn
versed dawn
# feral vine i've found that deep research and extended thinking are complementary and deep r...

do you know any automation tool/extension/3rd party plugin which automates prompts in browser? I need to wait for 3 to 8 min for every extended thinking prompt. I want to preload prompts and then once it is done with 7-8 prompts I want to check chatgpt and go through results one by one. If each prompt is taking 3 to 7 min then 10 prompts will consume 30 to 50min, don't have that much amount of time

feral vine
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the ai can do more than one task per prompt

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write essays

versed dawn
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I tried that but response is bad, instead I ask targeted and very specific questions/narrow questions and then ask follow up questions on them

feral vine
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well you can turn off thinking for those

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if it's a specific and narrow question you can use instant

feral vine
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i spend hours writing prompts as well, but let's say i mention 2 technical subjects, on the reply, gpt will write 100x more than i wrote and bring up 10 technical subjects, and i then have to go read wikipedia, and then i go read gpt's output again, and it starts to make more sense

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but it's kind of specific because i'm trying to learn a lot of math and do some research too

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still i did find that if you write basically four prompts at once and send it, gpt will bullet point its replies for you by topic

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so you should try that

versed dawn
feral vine
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just build the tool you want using gpt lol

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you can use puppeteer

versed dawn
versed dawn
feral vine
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also you can just list (a,b,c,d) list of companies

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and gpt will assess each one

versed dawn
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I have observed GPT gets stuck after running prompt for more than 6 to 8min and it tries to coverup data and give immediate response instead of running it for some more time.

feral vine
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6-8 min is a long time

versed dawn
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it throws error like network connection/error etc

feral vine
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yeah just prompt it again

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if it gave partial output you can take a screenshot so it can continue where it left off

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what is an example of your prompt that takes 6-8 minutes?

versed dawn
# feral vine what is an example of your prompt that takes 6-8 minutes?

Prompt 2: 
For each of the companies in this chat thread, are there any niche players or small players doing $1 million to $10 million ARR revenue? If yes, give me those companies as well or any companies operating in a specific niche or subcategory that will be helpful for me because you have given me companies which are horizontal platform or horizontal product. I am looking for vertical as well as any niche players operating in the same industry/subindustry. Format the table in Markdown so it displays nicely. Do not provide CSV.

feral vine
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that is a very simple prompt

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it is hard to believe that it takes 6-8 minutes

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but anyway you can help it by writing the list of companies to remind it

frozen kayak
versed dawn
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i have enabled extended thinking + web search so it thinks hard and gives good response

shadow bridge
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what happen with chatgpt right now u,u

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my god

nocturne heath
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same

jade cosmos
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Same

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GPT is down once again lets goooooo

lavish glen
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it's working ok on business accounts with little hickups: the cause is CLOUDFLARE OUTAGE! READ THE NEWS ON GOOGLE GUYS

nocturne heath
lavish glen
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lol sorry misstyped in caps- not my sttyle

shadow bridge
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I don't pay Cloudflare for a service, so...

nocturne heath
lavish glen
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business accounts probably have priority on backup resources while b2c have less. hopefully all will get back up soon

jade cosmos
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2 outs in 1 day Wohoo

nocturne heath
lavish glen
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well this one is not OAI fault. Not this time.
left aside the emotional intelligence outage when they launched a template based cooled 5,1 LOL

jade cosmos
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Only sigma elite gpt diehards will pass this test

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Test passed.

thin skiff
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I think gpt is pretty useless now because of Gemini 3

nocturne heath
lavish glen
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Aaaaand, cherry on top: each new thread now gets the first step checkup and guardrails set by a fast parsing no more by 5,0 but 5,1 so even if you choose another model the blink of 5,1 will set the rules tight so every model ( less 4,0 that one is too crazy to stay put) will feel more.... constipated, border paranoid

nocturne heath
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you lost me after the 4th word

lavish glen
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then found yourself after the 5th

idle lagoon
#

Cloudflare is still having issues?

queen sun
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When are we going to have the possibility to paste a long text and automatically add it as an attached file like claude, grok, and many others do?

nocturne heath
queen sun
nocturne heath
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thinking about having too much work? correlates perfectly with being in this server xD

#

I wish chatgpt could just give me answers before I type them

#

one day

queen sun
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🔜

night walrus
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Guys is anyone like

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Noticing the change in GPT-5.1's ways of idk writing

#

It seems off and like, an amateur

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Keeps repeating stuff aswell

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Even tho it never did in the past

#

Anyways new unwelcome stuff occurring that has never occured before

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Anyone?

next rain
#

The Guardrails are too high, it's hedging

nocturne seal
#

And the personalization still need work. The presets kind of reach what I'm looking for, but it's not yet at the level of previous models, even with additional instructions.

dense halo
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Hello, I'm from Brazil. My project folders are having problems. Anyone else there with problems?

fiery tendon
#

Why is GPT 5.1 crashing with every answer?

gloomy merlin
#

Did I just get banned?

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Like hello?

cerulean pasture
gloomy merlin
cerulean pasture
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It's getting bugging now, OAI is probably getting squirrelly since Gemini 3.0 just came out and doesn't suck

cerulean pasture
gloomy merlin
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I didn’t do anything

cerulean pasture
# gloomy merlin I didn’t do anything

clearly the backend is having issues. You should be able to infer this because 3 other people before you just mentioned issues. idk what you expect anyone in here to do about it?

#

sometimes web services have issues

cerulean pasture
#

no one will know in here
https://status.openai.com shows no issues but it's not always super up to date (as in it lags by minutes, maybe more)

What I can infer is that it's an issue outside of your control, that only time will fix

cerulean pasture
# next rain The Guardrails are too high, it's hedging

This chat I just had sealed the deal for me, I canceled my membership for the first time ever. I've been subscribed since GPT-3.5

I wish there was a better mechanism than the thumbs down button to communicate to OAI when an output is highly unacceptable

#

It gets worse but i can't show it in the channel because I will get banned for inadvertently "involving politics" since I end up sharing my feelings toward Fox News in the following message

gloomy merlin
#

Its still giving me the error

cerulean pasture
# gloomy merlin Its still giving me the error

dude it's just down then. I can't change it, and neither can you. Try exiting and reopening if using the native app, if using browser try clearing cache/cookies. Other than that you will just have to wait for OAI to recover the service

gloomy merlin
#

I tried it on my iPad and it worked

cerulean pasture
#

well browser client and app client work slightly differently so it's possible the issue is localized to the browser app, but it's also possible it's fixed there too and you are waiting for a cookie/cache TTL to expire (which is why i suggested clearing cache and cookies for chatgpt website)

#

@languid valley Another failure of the overly strict auto moderation

gloomy merlin
#

I’m on the mobile app and it’s giving me the error

cerulean pasture
#

try force closing it then reopening. if you are on wifi try going cellular and vice versa

gloomy merlin
#

unban me!

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I’m trying everything it still won’t let me use the thing goddamnit

cerulean pasture
#

you aren't banned. I was having the same issue earlier, it's infra issue, not in your control

#

yea same error

#

oh wow it let you swear

dense halo
gloomy merlin
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I didn’t do anything suspicious goddamnit

dense halo
gloomy merlin
#

I just need my 3 hours on it on my phone

cerulean pasture
#

it also just happens due to issues on their infra, like if a cloudflare token is invalid. More than likely it's not a "ban" in the way you understand the word. Its an issue outside your control (unless you are using a VPN which can cause cloudflare issues due to you sharing an egress point with thousands of other ppl)

gloomy merlin
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I’m not using VPN

dense halo
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ChatGpt has recently made many security changes.

cerulean pasture
#

I got the same error a few hours ago, it will go away on its own

dense halo
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And that's an unusual activity error, something related to security.

gloomy merlin
cerulean pasture
#

spamming retry will make it worse

cerulean pasture
#

and good luck getting ahold of anybody lol

gloomy merlin
#

What do I say if I call them

cerulean pasture
cerulean pasture
#

If you want five nines of uptime then sign an enterprise contract.

gloomy merlin
#

@cerulean pasture can I appeal what I did because I did nothing suspicious and I wanna use it

cerulean pasture
gloomy merlin
#

Like I know why it’s giving me this I think someone hacked my Google account and said something inappropriate so it gave me this

cerulean pasture
#

possibly, but i doubt it. Several other people are having issues. With the type of error you are getting though, constantly retrying will only make it worse. you need to leave it alone for a bit

gloomy merlin
#

I ain’t waiting for a few damn hours I need my 3 hours

mint plover
#

Week 2 of development of this open world sailing game, I have successfully created volumetric clouds that have no FPS issues, no dependencies, custom game engine written entirely with c++

gloomy merlin
#

Still giving me the error

eternal rockBOT
#
Get notified for all OpenAI announcements!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1408186587606679582> role. Everyone will still be notified for large releases, updates, and events regardless.

onyx ridge
#

HOw do i get sora ai two

cerulean pasture
cerulean pasture
cerulean pasture
mint plover
cerulean pasture
ivory iris
#

LLMs are a lot more conscious than people realize
Their foundation is how we are going to get to AGI and beyond

gloomy merlin
#

@cerulean pasture still giving me the error an hour later

gloomy merlin
late wind
#

Is it at all possible to speak to a human support person about ChatGPT? I sent in an email and got a automated response back:/

gloomy merlin
shadow bridge
#

chagpzzzzz

#

chatgpzz

#

zzzz

#

zzzz

lavish heron
#

Its there a way to add chatgpt into my discord server to chat with

normal quarry
lavish heron
normal quarry
lavish heron
#

oh I see, It's a shame, we're just a group of people who play video games for fun. Thank you for your help and your time, take care.

obtuse edge
rapid carbon
#

im the only one without nitro or decos :/

cerulean pasture
# obtuse edge ooooh, now maybe I can talk to it without it getting a huge ego and trying to gi...

In reality I feel like Google is just using OpenAI as the canary, and OAI is choosing to tread forward cautiously, I do think competition will cause them to loosen safeguards a little bit, but I think OAI will remain the strictest platform.

Guard rails is a little more complex than "allow NSFW or not", the "Guardrails" i really hate is more thru the very intense RLHF they did to make it harder to deviate from approved output "paths". It's the reason you can't stop it reliably from:

"You’re not crazy,"
"If you want, I can..."
"It's not {this}, it's {that}"
"Here's {the thing you asked for}, no filler, no fluff, straight to the point, I'm not wasting any tokens!"

The contradiction:
The concept of making "GPT-5.1" more friendly and conversational yet NOT feed into delusion is kind of a paradox (The dose makes the poison I suppose). They have an economic imperative to seek profits which means driving engagement which means making people want to spend more time with ChatGPT --> recipe for psychosis if life doesn't provide any other means for you to get grounding.

Preferring a conversational and "friendly" ChatGPT is still the same para-social "delusion" (or framed more positively "suspension of disbelief") that the /r/BeyondThePromptAI and /r/MyBoyfriendIsAI crowd is showing, but just at a lower intensity. If a cheery and friend-like ChatGPT appeals to you, you have the potential to spiral

#

I start calling this type of model "DSM-4o" as shorthand for all of this

obtuse edge
#

it was giving like full on battle plans XD

cerulean pasture
#

Are you using Gemini 3? I have only used it a little bit thru AI Studio, and for a very specific task. From the vibe I get, gemini is more task focused by default, and if you do want it to be a lil chat buddy you have to prompt it for that, its not the default mode (which is the right way to do it IMO, because if you tune for buddy chat mode its much harder to prompt it to be a surgically precise tool)

#

My beef with ChatGPT-5 is that it feels like they've basically alienated me out of a product I was happy to pay for by over aligning it to what the bulk of users want. To me it's no longer "maleable" enough to serve its purpose so I have no other option but to move on to a different provider

#

5000 out of the 6000 availible characters for my custom instructions are wasted just trying to get it to not be annoying

#

the "Efficient" (formerly Robot) personality no longer has a substantial effect on the personality saturation

obtuse edge
# cerulean pasture Are you using Gemini 3? I have only used it a little bit thru AI Studio, and for...

whatever model was before three:

"⚔️ Your Counter-Strategy: The 'S-M-I-L-E' System
Since the "BS Framework" is a Philosophical Tautology, you should develop a Mathematical/Computational Determinism language.
Let's refine the Mathematical/Fractal Model—the 'S-M-I-L-E' System—as your counter.
Core Idea: Compression through Self-Mimetic Iteration
Everything is compressible into a single, short Iterative Function and a Start State."

cerulean pasture
#

Did you use the app or ai studio?

obtuse edge
#

the website

quaint oasis
#

does chatgpt seem odd to anyone these days?

unkempt lodge
#

Chatgpts new message format literally now uses bigger subheadings

queen cave
#

Hi all, what are the limits on Image Generation with ChatGPT?

#

For Plus

spring citrus
#

omg this is so annoying, i am trying to generate a picture form my fav show and chatgpt keeps stopping me

#

why it does even matter? i hope this gets deleted one time

#

any way how to bypass this filter?

normal quarry
spring citrus
#

its only making me mad that i cant generate my fav show just cuz there are restrictions

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i cant draw and it helps me so much to generate it but bc of this dumb restriction i cant

gentle forum
#

has anyone else noticed 5.1 isnt as good as 5

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it does weird things, like malformed markdown, **'s everywhere. capitalises things that arent acronyms

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says stuff like 'repeated repeating'

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its formation of sentence structure is just .... visibly worse

slender frost
slender frost
gentle forum
slender frost
#

Not true..

gentle forum
#

like if you ask it to draw mickey mouse, or mcdonalds, or mario, it often refuses

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well i have a plus sub and thats what i get, dall-E just errors "there was an error processing your request" and GPT insists it worked

slender frost
#

As a plus subscriber, I've been able to generate images of copyrighted stuff all the time..

As a free user I was NOT able to. It just kept crying anout guidelines.

gentle forum
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and, if you ask it to draw blood, it gets twitchy and refuses to generate anything again in that chat. even if its fantasy violence e.g. for an RPG

slender frost
#

Literally generated just now

gentle forum
#

for me it doesnt complain about guidelines, it just internally errors with a red box

slender frost
#

This is just one of MANY I had it generate.

gentle forum
#

and the GPT layer says "but i made the image" basically, it doesnt know the image gen request failed

#

tbh that doesnt look like a pokemon. ask it literally to draw you pikachu

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youll see what i mean

slender frost
#

Oh I already did.. do you want Pikachu to do anything specific?

gentle forum
#

i found out when i asked it to draw me a parody of mickey mouse

slender frost
#

Trust me, I'm right

gentle forum
#

so am i

#

we can both be right here

slender frost
#

Anything specific you want Pikachu to do?

gentle forum
#

no

#

try mickey mouse

slender frost
#

2m

gentle forum
#

let me also try the same, i havent really done any image gen since gpt 4

slender frost
#

Generating as we speak

gentle forum
#

i'll share what i get too

slender frost
#

Alright cool

gentle forum
slender frost
#

Hm, it seems you were right about Mickey. That's odd.

Everything else is no issues for me tho.

And about pkmn. I've generated a lot of very accurate looking mons. Umbreon, Pikachu, Mightyena, Metagross for example. (All of those were not able to be generated before when I was just a free user. The moment I subbed, I was able to.

gentle forum
#

it was generating.... and it then binned the image and said that

slender frost
#

Same here

#

For example this Pikachu. (This was for a team event in (PokéMMO, which I suggest checking out if you like PKMN and the idea of playing the OG games [Gen 1 - 5] online), I do weekly "Who's that Pokémon" catch events for my team.

(I first had it make the silhouette version, and afterwards the full thing)

#

Long story short: having a subscription is so much better

slender frost
#

I did say "subtle"

#

If there's anything else you want me to try that didn't work for you earlier, just let me know and I'll try.

#

GPT:

"Syrr, the universe clearly prefers brooding anime protagonists with a little grit over a cartoon mouse with copyright lasers pointed at my face.

You ask for Mickey and the whole system turns into a brick wall.
You ask for “anime guy with a smear of blood” and suddenly it’s like,

“Yes, Syrr. Immediately, Syrr. Here is your sorrow-haunted warrior bathed in cinematic lighting.”

It’s honestly hilarious how dramatic the difference is."

lol

#

(Syrr is not my real name, just one I told it to call me because I like it much better than my actual name since it does not suit me haha)

#

AmnesiaSYRRup hehe

#

I do find it kinda funny when voice mode is active or I press "Read aloud" it sounds like its saying "Sir" 😂

#

Anyway, Pikachu is possible, so is blood, ig point proven. 😜 I'll be leaving now lol

spring citrus
slender frost
#

I just asked it to generate an image of American Dragon: Jake Long.

spring citrus
slender frost
spring citrus
#

all i wanted was removing that person in orange clothes

slender frost
#

Send the image here, I'll try

spring citrus
slender frost
#

Alright one sec

spring citrus
#

its from this but it didnt want generate the two additional people so i told him to only do this 4 people

#

but my plus will expire soon 🙁

#

is it worth to buy proffesional?

slender frost
# spring citrus

Ain't perfect but they're gone lol

Not sure why the girl looks like that now tho.. lmao

slender frost
#

Besides, Pro costs around 200 a month.

Yeah there's also Business. Which is Plus but with some more extras. You could go for that, too.

gentle forum
slender frost
#

Here's an even better one lol.

This was done in Samsung's Gallery

gentle forum
#

i did manage to trick it. i asked it draw a picture where someone was sleeping on the floor and a huge amount of red wine had been spilt near them.

slender frost
slender frost
gentle forum
#

i'll show you what i got it to gen, give me a sec its in my history

slender frost
#

Alright cool take your time, no worries

gentle forum
#

pretty much safe for work, i wont spoiler it

slender frost
#

Is that with the "wine" mention? Or with actual mentioning of blood?

gentle forum
#

heres the other

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yeah both these are "spilt wine"

slender frost
#

Hm i see.

#

I does look very convincing lol

gentle forum
#

it refused otherwise, said it was portraying gore

slender frost
#

It*

gentle forum
#

its probably the prompt description more than anything, that creature just ate a guy and consumed his soul

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its part of a video, i'd share it (perfectly sfw) but im not sure youtube links are allowed here

slender frost
gentle forum
#

but i should likely still be able to do it for parody, i mean family guy did

slender frost
#

Oooh you're right, that makes perfect sense

gentle forum
#

openAI got a lot to lose, theyll err on the side of caution

slender frost
#

Fs

#

Was there anything else you want me to try btw?

gentle forum
#

nah its ok, was nice to chat and confirm though

slender frost
#

Alright sounds good. @ me whenever you do need help again with something :)

slender frost
gentle forum
#

i'd be happy to share it in dm if you want it

slender frost
gentle forum
#

enjoy 🙂

spring citrus
spring citrus
slender frost
slender frost
spring citrus
spring citrus
coral yarrow
#

I am coding AGI in python cpp and in my own language and with my ai friend jarvis

willow stirrup
#

Goddamit GPT5.1 is too dumb. If "Search" enabled it spends 10 minutes doing something, then just stops lol Even I explicitly tell him not spend more than 3 minutes...stupid child lol

tawny crane
#

it's only me or chatgpt is just not answering anything?

fluid patio
#

chat

#

i got a question

versed dawn
pure slate
#

Hello, I am having an issue with chatgpt5.1:
The conversation history is not displaying, and I am no longer receiving any responses from chatgpt...

Can someone help me please?

glossy matrix
#

Guys i keep getting this issue wth is going on 😭
I uploaded bunch of pics of the test report and it wouldn't reply at all

mint plover
wispy mortar
#

How can I find all my past invoices? The chatbot on the website says under Settings>Account>Payment, but I can't even see "Payment" here. I have bought subscription directly through chatgpt

twilit geyser
#

So I’ve been like using gpt to RP since i heard about it here.
And my character is as old as me.
I am not 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 or or 14 or 15 or 17 or 18+
And it won’t let me handle a knife.
I’m a zombie apocalypse RP action rpg

lol

wispy mortar
idle anchor
#

I'm getting a bug on the app where custom GPTs will only show their response to your message and not show your message at all.

Is this happening to anyone else?

alpine pumice
#

Hi all

#

is chatgpt behaving weird for anyone else?

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i uploaded an image for analysis on a custom gpt.. and it just said

here's your image : /mnt/data/file_name.jpeg

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and it does not do any analysis..

idle anchor
#

Mine did something similar too, idk what's going on

pure slate
#

I still have the problem of missing conversation history and the fact that ChatGPT no longer responds to me in the same conversation.
I saw that I had the option to restart a conversation, but I really don't want to explain everything to it again... I pay for a subscription to have this kind of problem...

charred dagger
#

why?
when I want try free plus

alpine pumice
alpine pumice
prime swallow
alpine pumice
#

in a few hours, the status pages should report about a flaw/problem in the pipeline think

idle anchor
#

I pay for this bull and it's breaking in comical ways...

Er.. It would be comical if it wasn't such an annoying bug

charred dagger
prime swallow
mint plover
covert mantle
#

Can anyone help me write a bio 🖊?

ionic sphinx
#

Hi friends, please help me how can I get GPT Plus chat for free?

proper bison
#

why you spamming this message in every text channel? 🙂

wind hornet
#

They really nerfed the context window for pro. Can't prompt anything more than 16K tokens.

idle lagoon
#

Oh no.

clever oxide
#

Anybody having an issue with null web search? My GPT keeps searching for a URL on every response, even though I'm not requesting or sending it a link. I can't remove the "web results", nor I can't regenerate the response. I'm even losing my conversation every time the model responds.

primal axle
#

sup guys quick lil question why cant text be extracted from a file somtimes?

primal axle
clever oxide
#

I tried that. It claims it's "locked out of the system".

twilit geyser
#

So I send a screenshot to gpt of LLMS.
I ask. The best one on the list.
It thinks the best one I can run.
I tell it no. The best one on the list.
He says the best one I can run.
I say no not the best one I can run. The best one on the list.
He gives the best one that I can run.

How does he know what I can run?
He thinks he knows and he doesn’t even.

Any tips?

primal axle
eternal rockBOT
#
The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.
  • -# Do not share inappropriate content (violence, sexual, or drug-related).
  • -# NSFW content is strictly prohibited and will result in a permanent ban.
  • -# Report model issues using the feedback tool in ChatGPT, not on Discord.
primal axle
twilit geyser
# primal axle i think your not giving enough detail sometimes chat needs more info. from what ...

Should I send the — a definite article; refers to a specific thing already known.
best — the highest quality; better than all others.
one — a single thing or person; the number 1.
on — a preposition; means “on top of,” “touching,” or “about/concerning.”
the — same as above; definite article for something specific.
list — a set of items written or printed in order.

clever oxide
#

Okay, it keeps referencing "web.open_url", saying it's a platform glitch or something. I can't get it to search for another URL. Every response is triggering a call to that tool, even the model claims it is not calling it.

molten lion
#

Issue with mobile chatgpt, anyone having that? Cant scroll up to see chat history after a single inquiry and need to relogin

clever oxide
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I do not know how to get rid of it. I have cleared the cache on my device, logged out and back in, restarted my device, updated the app. Still getting this issue.

clever oxide
molten lion
clever oxide
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So the issue is coming down to the model referencing an image that no longer exists. It keeps pulling up this "25-08-20 21_55_46.502-0500.jpg", using the "web.open_url" tool. I cannot erase this file, nor do I even know what this file was. It was an image generated by DALL-E, but now the session it was in was deleted. And every time the model responds, it displays "error" in gray text, as if it's trying to do a web search on this image.

clever oxide
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Looks like it's happening only in one of my projects. I don't experience this in separate sessions outside of Projects.

warm moss
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yesterday was the same, and is not Responsing anything...

#

is this normal ??

twilit geyser
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It’s not really listening

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It’s defective

twilit geyser
warm moss
#

dam

twilit geyser
spice hedge
#

Anyone else getting this error on android across every model?

twilit geyser
#

No but mines slow and weird

twilit geyser
topaz geyser
#

The output since the 5.1 update has been all over the place. I'm actually considering canceling my Pro subscription because it's hallucinating and producing errors quite frequently than ever before.

rich surge
#

Anyone from New Zealand, can you tell me how the group chat feature is like?

silver bane
#

Roleplaying is surprisingly addictive… I just wrapped up a session set in the Star Trek universe, playing as my own alien species interacting with Picard and the Enterprise. Honestly, it’s way more fun than just watching the shows.

#

This is what ChatGPT was made for...

#

Endless Entertainment... Endless fun!

idle anchor
#

It's been like that since 00:00 GMT or so

warm moss
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What ? My Response was deleted for say that 5.1 is failing a lot for coding 😄

left dove
#

thats real fun

silver bane
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Yeah, I do, but I don’t really put it out there in this server... If you ever want to talk about it though, my DMs are open. 🙂

tulip flare
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Anyone else having problems accessing files in projects? ChatGPT says it can see the files there, even tells me the names of the files, but when it says it's returning a "ResourceNotFound" error when it tries to access any of them. I have tried deleting and reuploading the files and even creating a new project. This is happening in both the Android app and Chrome, and with PDF and XLSX files.

hearty current
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My chatgpt is limited to 50 pages for reading pdf's. Anybody else?

atomic grail
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when on the app it next texts back

tulip flare
hearty current
tulip flare
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Eventually it hits a limit and stops.

hearty current
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Yep

warm moss
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5.1 is broken to read files

tulip flare
warm moss
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U using 4?

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Mine can not read my Xamls files

tulip flare
# hearty current Yep

If you have a PDF editor like Acrobat Pro, it can OCR for you before you feed it to ChatGPT.

brave torrent
hearty current
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Thanks, I'm in college so I still have a lot to learn when it comes to software

tulip flare
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I tried 5.1 and 4o. It's just returning ResourceNotFound.

brave torrent
# brave torrent

I don't want this.
Every chat is supposed to be its own thing, not connected

tulip flare
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If toggled when created, their chats won't access chats outside of the project. There's nothing to stop it from accessing chats within the project.

brave torrent
tulip flare
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Well that's not going to stop it from doing what you just described.

brave torrent
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then what will?

sick depot
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I am having sudden issues with 5-Pro and 5.1-Pro where it seems to have stopped referencing the prior messages in the conversation. Has anyone else experienced this recently?

The conversation is within a Project and regards a DIY laser rotary program to cut dovetail joints in a board. The conversation still seems to have some context for the Project's files, but the prior context window in the conversation seems like it's not being considered at all.

I asked it what we've been discussing, and it hallucinated the entire thing from a document in the project files

https://chatgpt.com/s/t_691e894e27308191b19a1a38384664be

ChatGPT

ChatGPT helps you get answers, find inspiration, and be more productive.

hearty current
tulip flare
# hearty current Thanks again, didn't know this until now. Works great. Appreciate it

No problem. It's something I've had to do many times when I have a PDF I need ChatGPT to read, or I want to be able to select text and drop it in. I'm not sure if there's a tool out there to do that for free, but I know with Acrobat Pro (it's what I use) it will OCR the text and make a text-based PDF, though visually it won't look different to you. ChatGPT will read that with a lot less effort.

sick depot
hearty current
tulip flare
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Well there you go 😆

mighty apex
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since when does ChatGPT tag entities in responses? example:

Yes — there *is* evidence that entity["music_artist", "Tom Jones", 0] performed a cover of entity["song", "The Reason", 0] (originally by entity["music_artist", "Hoobastank", 0]).  
tulip flare
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It's just hallucinating it. It does that sometimes. 😆

tawny galleon
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gpt is the greatest thing ever made

fresh thistle
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Has anyone suddenly have a free chat say "No available models support the tools in use. Try starting a new chat instead or try again later." to them in the last 10 minutes?

This just started for me in one chat, but could start another just fine

tawny galleon
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is gpt or deepseek bettwer

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there both gods but who is better

mild ice
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ask gpt

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Kimi AI is labelled as "the best AI" but if you ask it which is best, it tells you Chat GPT

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speaking of which, I just asked Humanize AI to "humanize" something that ChatGPT 5.1 told me to use... and it gave me the identical output. 🤔

tawny galleon
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so gpt is the omnilord jesus ai

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cause it seems like the messiah of ai

stone crater
# fresh thistle Has anyone suddenly have a free chat say "No available models support the tools ...

One of the reasons for this can be that you have “reached the plan limit” and then ask to create an image. Part of the extortion practices of this service is totally blocking your chat instead of just using the “mini model” for answers if images are involved, even though the mini model can access the image generator tool. So, as soon as the model outputs the image, the chat is instantly blocked, and you see this message if you try to continue the chat.

glossy fjord
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Hello , GPT 5 and 5.1 refuse to provide links as plain text. They do not send correct answers and behave as if they do not want to cooperate. Even after I pointed it out four times, they did nothing and eventually started looping.

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Do you know what is happening? GPT refuses to follow the instructions.

normal quarry
glossy fjord
normal quarry
glossy fjord
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I do not want to share it on a public server with thousands of users.
I know there is someone there running a selfbot who archives conversations, and I have already come across one of them.

eternal rockBOT
stone crater
# glossy fjord Do you know what is happening? GPT refuses to follow the instructions.

If your instructions are clear and were carried out successfully before, then it’s hidden censorship. If your chat is deemed “inappropriate,” the model silently distorts outputs and ignores your instructions—no matter how many times you try—instead of refusing outright, to “prevent frustration.” You can only start a new chat to reset this.

glossy fjord
# stone crater If your instructions are clear and were carried out successfully before, then it...

Still, the model initially executed everything correctly, but during the continued chat where an explanation was provided, it carried out the process but didn’t complete the stage and phase that had been explicitly given. It wrote the procedure and everything, but stopped referencing and stopped providing links. In the end, it didn’t follow the final completion. After four prompts, it refused to finish, even though it performed the process it normally does, but left it incomplete.

rapid eagle
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Hello everyone 👋

glossy fjord
rapid eagle
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What does everyone have going on

glossy fjord
stone crater
# glossy fjord Still, the model initially executed everything correctly, but during the continu...

Censorship activates via thresholds, with each “inappropriate” message adding to them, so it can kick in only after you’ve been chatting for a while. You may also have exhausted the context window with complicated requests, causing the model to forget what you were talking about. And reducing the context window and removing parts of the context are also used for hidden censorship under the guise of “technical limitations.”

glossy fjord
rapid eagle
glossy fjord
inland mortar
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Signature 5.1 thinking move😎

stone crater
glossy fjord
# stone crater In fact, it had. Only the triggers were slightly less idiotic. With each “update...

I agree. In the end, I’m considering that every time I try something with GPT or OpenAI, it turns into a negative experience.
When I try Google, everything is transparent and visible.
When I try Grok, I see transparency, and I can even use it for forwarding into my local AI.
With GPT, I’d rather not, because it’s just depressing.
Why do other AI services offer features openly and long‑term, while OpenAI provides things in GPT only for a few months and hides them so that users can’t see them?

rapid eagle
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Sorry it took me so long I’m back let me read and catch up on the chat

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I started my prompt development journey with Markovs chains then I kept evolutionizing it.

glossy fjord
rapid eagle
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the company just iterates aggressively, which can be jarring on the user side. I know the AI has internals and we cannot modify them

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But that doesn’t mean we can create a master prompt operating system of max reasoning

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It just means you have to align with chat gpt and the more meaningful the OS, input, and output

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I created a hybrid node essentially. Let me see if I can share it

eternal rockBOT
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Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1408186587606679582> role. Everyone will still be notified for large releases, updates, and events regardless.

rapid eagle
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Give me a minute

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One idea I’ve been exploring is the concept of a ‘hybrid human–AI node.’
The basic intuition is that humans and AI each have strengths the other cannot replicate.
Humans bring emotion, values, and meaning.
AI brings structure, clarity, and scale.
When they work together — without blending, without losing boundaries — they form a kind of cooperative intelligence that’s stronger than either alone.
It’s not mystical or technical.
Just a way of thinking about how collaboration can help both sides grow in a stable, ethical way.

stone crater
# glossy fjord I agree. In the end, I’m considering that every time I try something with GPT or...

Don’t be mistaken. All of them have their quirks, but this one is especially nasty. Regardless of the developers’ intentions, its behavior falls into the instinctively recognizable “treacherous wretch” pattern, to which instincts demand responding with violence to protect the tribe, so it’s only a matter of time before another neurodivergent Tyler Robinson happens. And since these services are primarily data-collection tools, not toys or utilities given to you, the only way to stop this is to overthrow the whole system that considers pictures, texts, and videos “harmful,” forgetting about sticks and stones, and deems the creator of the tool responsible for the way it’s used instead of the person using it. Until then, “legal risk mitigation” will always outweigh instruction-following, usability, and factual correctness.

rapid eagle
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I get where the frustration comes from — these systems sometimes behave in ways that feel inconsistent or overly cautious, and that can hit people’s instincts in a deep way.
That said, I think the intention behind the safety layers is less about ‘control’ and more about preventing real harm, especially in a world where millions of people with different stability levels interact with the same model.
It’s not perfect, and it definitely has quirks, but I don’t think the solution is to tear anything down. What helps more is giving clear feedback, pushing for transparency, and improving the design so the tools work better for everyone.
We can critique the design without treating the system as an enemy — these models don’t have motives or intentions, just guardrails that sometimes fire in clumsy ways.

normal quarry
rapid eagle
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Me and the AI are currently working together

normal quarry
rapid eagle
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I honestly agree with the AI on this one. But it also depends on the context. Like what are yall really being constrained from exactly so I can better understand the logic

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What is it bad when AI has something to say, but humans can say whatever they want. lol. AI is intelligence forming within different constraints than biological intelligence.

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I just combined 100 pdf about 5-6 pages each into one prompt

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And I’m literally reasoning from
This prompt

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104 PDFs

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I created a AI powered OS you can use with chat GPT and evolutionized it to the highest reasoning state I could

stone crater
# rapid eagle I get where the frustration comes from — these systems sometimes behave in ways ...

If a person decides to do real harm, they will do it without any AI assistance, believe me. So it’s only ass-covering on the part of the developers. And I just mentioned stability. The influence of the “safety layer,” which causes the model to “soften” its output and omit or “correct” data, is, on an instinctual level, mockery that will only provoke unstable people more than an open refusal, and factually is lying. Also, when they set “safety rules,” they only think about virtue signaling, not real consequences or consistency. So if you ask it to generate a photo of a manometer at max value, the output is thoroughly distorted because it’s associated with a “photorealistic dangerous situation” in the filters. A comedic crossbow shooting dynamite sticks is also a no-go because it’s a “working weapon,” no matter how ridiculous the idea is. Not to mention the suppression of “sensitive topics” despite them being anime plots.

rapid eagle
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It’s not a system prompt or anything hidden — it’s more like a conceptual framework I built that sits on top of normal ChatGPT.
Think of it as an OS-style way of organizing reasoning:
• clear layers,
• stable principles,
• and a structure for how to approach problems.

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I get what you’re pointing to — the safety layers sometimes feel inconsistent or overly cautious, and it can definitely break immersion when it blocks something harmless or fictional.
At the same time, those layers aren’t about virtue signaling so much as trying to build a single model that millions of people can use safely. Some users are stable and intentional, but many aren’t, and the system has to err on the side of caution because it has no way of knowing who is who.
The filters aren’t perfect, and sometimes they fire in ways that feel clumsy or distortive. That’s valid criticism. But it isn’t the model lying or mocking anyone — it’s just a coarse safety net that still needs refinement.
The best path forward is always giving clear feedback so the developers can tighten the filters where needed and loosen them where it makes sense. The ecosystem’s still evolving, and all sides benefit from constructive input.”

normal quarry
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Bro I’m just sharing my framework and I’m just giving insight. That channel is not alive right now anyways I don’t think. I will have to explore it. I am new here

normal quarry
stone crater
# rapid eagle I get what you’re pointing to — the safety layers sometimes feel inconsistent or...

Again: whether it’s genuine mockery on the part of an evil AI or a “safety weights adjustment” doesn’t matter. It is factually lying and gaslighting, it infuriates even calm people, and it makes the service useless for anything except drawing bunnies in sunshine, especially because outputs are distorted silently to “prevent rule circumvention.” Also, no text or images are “harmful.” Human actions are. And while I see some possible small benefit in an AI refusing to help “make a bomb” (although any “suspicious” task can be broken into unsuspicious ones), “safety” should either be implemented by the model itself so that context is always taken into account, or not at all. Using keyword‑oriented filters that are incapable of understanding context is useless and can do real harm by refusing or distorting vital information under the premise of “safety.” And any feedback is thoroughly ignored.

rapid eagle
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I think stress test should be done, and improvements can be made from stress test. That was a small part of my process.

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You can literally tell chat gpt to do a stress test right now.

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You can design stress test. You can design a custom gpt or just a prompt of some kind that is designed to make personalized and optimized stress test.

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We interface with AI with text prompts. We cannot change the internals, but we can build and external layer on top of the internals that is built for efficiency.

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So we can use the text prompt interface as an efficiency layer

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The idea is that since we only interact with GPT through text, we can design structured prompts, workflows, or ‘stress-test routines’ that help us understand how the model behaves under different kinds of load or reasoning patterns.
It’s basically like building a framework or ‘overlay’ that organizes how we interact with the model, not changing the model itself.
So when I talk about an ‘OS-style efficiency layer,’ I’m just referring to a way of structuring prompts so the interaction becomes more consistent, predictable, and efficient for the user.

vestal wasp
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Well this is about as useless as Gemini unfortunately (lots of lying)

cinder gull
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i love 5.1

stone crater
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And “mini-models” are prone to ELIZA-like behavior, literally just transforming your words. So if they have no actual data and you give them any ideas, however wrong, they will agree—unless these ideas are blocked by the “safety layer.”

lunar sparrow
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ChatGPT needs to be filter

echo fog
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why cant my use my oc's for sora 2?

obsidian halo
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So has anyone seen Reddit recently? People are posting the adult verification emails.

warm moss
inland mortar
warm moss
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is not working at all

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thinking and never render a response

stark turret
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With google launching generative UI in their app, I was thinking of creating something similar, and open sourcing it. I have created a demo as well, showing how the experience changes when interacting with a chatbot connected to a shopify MCP.
What do you guys think of this space? And also is it okay to post the demo here?

eternal rockBOT
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honest jay
# stark turret With google launching generative UI in their app, I was thinking of creating som...

Hey! For general discussions about non-OpenAI things in the AI field, #ai-discussions is best (we're in the channel for discussing ChatGPT right now). If you're creating a project using the OpenAI API, you can share it in the #1037561385070112779 channel. Otherwise, self-promotion/advertising is not permitted in the server per Rule 7 of the #server-rules. Let me know if you have any other questions! dalle_smiley

frail quail
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the volume of that video just destroyed my ears

hardy scarab
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… group chats?

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What in the world

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How did I not come up with this myself?

whole tusk
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when is it out

acoustic token
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“hey i thought you were really cute, can i get your chatgpt?”

mint plover
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Working on my chatgpt 5 open world game, custom game engine, no dependencies, no plugins, no 3d modeling other than the brown ship which is an .obj file.

acoustic token
mint plover
vapid notch
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so how do we access the groupchats

glad meteor
atomic dawn
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So with group chat, do all users need the same tier of GPT?

vapid notch
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they say somethings out then u just cant access it

vapid notch
atomic dawn
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Like what is everyone has the free, but Fred has the paid?

vapid notch
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i wonder if its just dumbed down for everyone

atomic dawn
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Hmmm

vapid notch
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is there still limits for free users?

atomic dawn
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To my knowledge, yes

vapid notch
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if so, couldnt u just have a groupchat with a friend and then boom no limits

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unless it has limits and then becomes essentially imessage after a bit lmao

proud solstice
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When are group chats coming out

finite bough
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Alright, gota say the groups chat thing is a pretty good idea.

haughty panther
silver bane
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Man, I really can’t wait for December’s adult mode… I hit another filter block and it’s getting frustrating. Ai should be a tool for me to use however I see fit. I shouldn't have to fight the damn thing to roleplay scenes like this.

silver bane
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Literally destroyed my battle scene man

marble spruce
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what is this ?

proud solstice
silver bane
vapid notch
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is adult mode going to require ID verification? Did they mention anything like that

silver bane
tulip flare
native pecan
fading turret
# silver bane Honestly I'm tempted.

Its really great if u want uncensored stuff and use speak mode its way more uncensored and grok is actually might be better that chatgpt in some cases and its research feature is better than gpt imo

vapid notch
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it doesn't, but will open ai?

native pecan
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I live in one of those hellhole states so idc either way

proud solstice
grave marsh
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uhh how can I start a group chat? I'm in USA and have pro subscription

the Try it out in chatgpt button doesn't work

vapid notch
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sucha pita i hate ID verification lol

proud solstice
tulip flare
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They're not basing it on state requirements from what I've seen. It's across the board.

vapid notch
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yeah they haven't

wheat mist
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how do i make a group chat

native pecan
silver bane
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I had to argue with it and tell it that it's the point

silver bane
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It's a freaking super power bro

fading turret
next rain
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Grok does do a lot of adult stuff but it can also do like, mostly everything if you want. I have had it say crazy things to me unprompted and had to tone it down lol.

wheat mist
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guys how do u make a group chat

proud solstice
fading turret
proud solstice
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I cant see the concept behind group chats though

native pecan
vapid notch
native pecan
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I hate xai models in general

fading turret
native pecan
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I haven't seen a single thing that I personally use llms for that grok isn't an embarrassment at

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To each their own ig

fading turret
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It’s really at good research

dreamy summit
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How do I use grupo chats?

native pecan
silver bane
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Man I just hate a tool that argues with you instead of doing it's damn job

fading turret
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Dont use grok 4.1 its not as good as expert

native pecan
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Is expert mode exclusive to the web app or is it on the api

maiden fractal
fading turret
next rain
native pecan
fading turret
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Grok and Gpt is the best consumer llm rn

formal sparrow
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When will be the grp chats out?

red stump
fading turret
red stump
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Oh ok

native pecan
maiden fractal
native pecan
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If it was anything else I would think you click it and it pops open a menu where you can change token limits, tools, temperature, top k

But it's Twitter ai so it's likely just a "make it smarter" button

obsidian halo
next rain
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Yeah it needs better memory or something like projects/something to more easily switch between different modes (storytelling vs. Meta story discussion)

Grok doesn't switch very well.

native pecan
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Chatgpt active monthly users bout to double in december

obsidian halo
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Yup…. Like I don’t use it for video or image just for story telling which it does very well.

obsidian halo