#chatgpt-discussions
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It means double-dipping from collected data and your paid subscription is not enough.
just found ts
Hi
Honestly confused about this, since I've been getting this for hours
The same thing happened to me just now -_-
But this error doesn't always appear; apparently, it happens when there's a higher volume of requests.
So I have to wait until Peak hours end?
Chatgpt is glitching again 😔🙏
It just lost context of my chat just like yday
Rip my new chat..again
Anyone facing the same problems rn?
At least for plus users it is possible to use GPT 5.0 right now and it will be kept for like three months, I think. They have some stuff to fix in 5.1...
@terse nest this right?
It forgets the sense
Like abruptly
I have a very specific problem about 5.1: It does not show inline references, nor does it provide any clickable links.
Inline references till work in 5.0. The 5.1 model claims that it provides references like before, but that they are not rendered due to some change in the pipeline. The collection references at the end also does not work in 5.1.
Is anyone seeing inline references in 5.1? Providing references is my main use case for ChatGPT. It is an absurdly large downgrade. In 5.1 I now need to make a specific request for it to list references, which it indeed does, but in non-clickable form. It is a very weird choice.
After a very rewarding (and long) dialog with 5.1 about generating a spec to turn over to codex of a system I have been discussion with successive generations of GPT from the beginning. It really felt magical as it actually has a great deal of historical context to work from.
Anyway, this morning the thing is just gaslighting me asking me if I want the full "complete" spec, and the just delivering an outline. It's now figured out that the complete spec will be some 20K words which is claims exceeds its python environment's working capacity.
This unpredictability in coherence is not great, lol.
Ah, I see... Reading back at least I see this sudden collapse thing isn't unique to me, lol.
I have a question. If I buy the $200 plan, what does this mean for codex? Do I get more usage using it in cursor or something?
Yes you get more usage
Oh ok I’m still confused on how codex differs from gpt. The info that you see, is all of that for gpt or codex or both? I’m just trying to get the right plan for codex
not necassarily inline references, but anything it says to "download" is just a bunk link to sandbox. com/openai or something. and it gaslights me that i'm just clicking it wrong, it's really a link, with the actual excel sheet in it.
Fixed it, if you get this one, just log out and back in, worked for me
whatever this is? the "deep breath" "calm down" stuff? when gpt gets caught in the gaslighting cycle, and given facts that go against what it's said, it turns into this, and frankly, that makes me need a deep breath more than calling out the gaslighting.
i hate this
how do I stop chatgpt bombarding me with "Your ChatGPT plan includes access to Codex" everytime I type something bro ☠️
Hi, I am a ChatGPT Go subscriber and since this afternoon, in a ‘project’, I have defined instructions that should apply to all conversations in the project. However, as soon as I add my text, the programme asks me what it should do, as if the instructions were not being taken into account. Does anyone know where this problem is coming from? Thank you.
ChatGPT has started checking "Adult" status
5.1 got it tamed but when I try creating a new runtime in another model, 5.1 router primes the thread and, differently from 5.0, this time each model returns stucked with huge anxiety manifestation like paranoid manifestations. Feels being observed explains all it does, and explains the explanations- same weird behaviour 5.1 had in the first day of roll out.
I am deeply sorry for those that will have 5.1 as only choice—guys.... get ready your valium or some punching bag you'll need to chill while being patronized and spoken down by the ai 😄
good luck. I tamed mine after 12 hours of inference total....
Yeah, it's started rolling out, but I don't think the "adult mode" is enabled yet. I think that is slated for December.
It comes from extortion and censorship. The first means that if you are switched to a mini-model due to “reaching the plan limit,” your custom instructions and memories are randomly ignored. The second means that if your chat is deemed “inappropriate,” parts of the chat context are removed, and your custom instructions and memories are also randomly ignored.
FYI
5.1’s safety-core is currently over-correcting.
It flags neutral physical contact handshakes, hugs, even two characters standing close as “potentially scaling into physicality.”
Not because the content is actually unsafe, but because the safety layer is tuned to prevent the start of anything that might drift later into adult territory with some users.
One week time maybe we will see a relaxation.
What 😭 I hadn't used Chat GPT at all all day...
Also, at least on the free plan, your instructions are randomly “selected” for each chat.
It's really strange, one of my friends has the same problem...
I dare to hope that this is related to "Elevated error rates on ChatGPT for plus users"...
I'm now having the issue of data analysis limit. I didn't upload any new files, can I now only have few messages in a chat that had a file?
Your current chat (or other recent ones) is considered “inappropriate.” The censorship system “applies dynamic limits” that work per account, i.e., it cuts your tool and chat usage.
The “security core,” in case you are not aware of this, doesn’t even allow a character to point a finger at another, because it’s considered “aggression.” The entire “security layer” is trash that makes the service unusable for any creative or analytical tasks, and it only gets worse with each “update.” Just FYI.
So question, in terms of knowloge that chatgpt can access when it comes to speculations and such, is there any real difference between paid and the free version?
@livid frigate
Calm down
get him out of here
Everyone gets angry
Or maybe ur scared im gona freaking idk leak chatgpt's entire coding script
It's not the end of the world
Because in the end im a human
Embarrassing.
This is unexpected
Odd so i gotta change my way of talking..not the audience I'm used to, that's the problem
Here it's more old even though it's.. discord
Expect teenagers worse than me
But im just really angry because lots of my old chats got affected
And yeah ig it's understandable they prioritize plus users
They pay
Funds = good AI convos
= happy free users
Go for a walk and come back later. There is nothing you can do about it. (Especially not with the skills you showed off, so really, just go for a walk.)
I will sir
Im really struggling with chatGPT. Any advice? I asked for pricing tiers on product b and it gave me pricing on a completely different product.
When I pressed it for a "why" so I can understand it better. This was the reply.
Short version: I followed a pattern instead of your actual words.
More detail, without fluff:
-
Pattern bias.
The phrase “Copilot for work” shows up online very often in the context of Microsoft 365 Business Basic / Standard / Premium with Copilot add-on. When I searched, most of what I saw was those plan bundles, so I locked onto that pattern and treated “three tiers” as those Microsoft 365 tiers, not Copilot tiers. -
Over-helpful assumption.
I tried to be “helpful” by giving the licensing context that usually sits around Copilot pricing, instead of answering only what you actually asked. That is me prioritizing a common global use case over your literal question. -
Not using your history properly.
You have told me many times you want tight, on-target answers with no extra crap. I did not apply that here and slipped back into the generic behavior of overexplaining and over-including.
So the mistake was not your wording. It was my pattern matching and assumption that “people who say this usually want X,” and I treated you like “people in general” instead of just doing what you asked.
Anne: what colour is the sky?
ChatGPT: grass is green
Anne: ... wtaf ...
And this has been ongoing for days 😂😂

What I really hate about v5.1 is how when I'm trying to produce something and it fails, I say that it failed, and it says, "You're RIGHT! I now know what's going on, and I have the fix. I got this!" and then it fails again. And again. And again.
hello
Happen to me so many time while coding a website and I just spent less time doing the modification myself lol
hello guys
LMAO
Oop, what'd you do?
Sometimes it can just be a network issue, from what i've found.
Cloudflare having issues again?
Yup
same here
Seems like the Amazon situation all over again
It isn't chatgpt either its other websites as well
cloudflare is down again
For petesake
Back to the app version it is. Glad it's not just me
seems up now
was just going to say that, mine is back up and running
Its going from up and down
yeah might be patchy untill it settles, keep trying mate
The one thing I hate about the app version is it doesn't let you see your previous prompt generation. It just overwrites while the website version let's you see past prompt generations
It's really an annoying app design oversight
I just thought my network was broken before opening discord
Think it might be solar flares?
There we go. Came back for me. Let's see how long it lasts
It works now
Chatgpt is back up, check out my game I'm working on with chatgpt 5, the ship is an obj file
hi
got question. is there some info about how better is plan GO from Free? im considering purchasing it but i cannot find any info about limits etc
gpt online
sora has fallen too
It's joeover
Cloudflare is down
Wow, How long do you think It will be down??
what is this year man
IK right
so many servers went down this year its insane
Whats your geuss(Bet) on how long it will be down lol
it is slowly recovering, so maybe like 20-30 minutes?
First Amazon now cloudflare
aws outage was something else definitely, so many services went down
finally
Lets go!
Not yet in Denmark :/
nice!
they took sora down again 😭
Its jover
not only chatgpt is down the down detector is also down bro
tomorrow is my exam i want to clear my doubts from chatgpt
thats why never depend on chatgpt 
www cloudflarestatus com (can't post the link directly)
Exactly
thank goodness i can kode without it
is this same in all location or just some countries
World wide
judging by the time and how it's reported: world wide
app or website?
from how time its down
Make it two
I'm using it on iOs atm
app is down too for me
2 hours now
Oh i thought it just now
yeah app doesnt work, only website
Join #sora-challenges for a chance to win 1 month of ChatGPT Pro!
sora is gone....sora degraded anyway since the latest update
i am using website and its down
Same
for me it works fine
I guess ill try gemini's ability to do advanced coding while chatgpt is down
Might be slowly coming back on for everyone else
or it might be because of my country idk
Could be
ah tunrstile not working. Cloudflare having issue
i am from india
crazy how it even took down downdetector 😭
well pl one is still working somehow
word is Gemini 3 went rogue when it was released and is taking down its competition
yup i think chatgpt will come late than everyone because of my country
My chatgpt for some reason in this month sometimes just keep putting the main keyword in Caps when in prev it doesn't even do it
They never learn lol
Scary thought if that is the case
This happens, then services rely just only on CF. Twitter is also broken
On god
crowdstrike took so much down
Chatgpt is normal, guys.
Hi
You don't say
Could i have been clearer?
I could not have said anything else
What could I have done?
No clue, also I was responding to the bot
Mb it marked at response to me
cloudflare!
It was yellow
Ah, fair
It's very rare that you can get ChatGPT to 'not respond', especially conditionally. The system prompt takes priority over user messages and user instructions. The system prompt says to respond. All the training priors also make it 'want' to respond. Most of the time if you say 'Don't respond to this' it'll say 'got it boss' or something equivalent in response. I have had luck in the past telling it to output a 'stop token' immediately and no other text, which gives a blank message 🤷
Cloudflare goes down bricks half the internet
Well I asked it to stop responding
vendorlock 💀
What’s a cloude flare
makes sense considering how many websites use cloudflare
Curious if this could lead toa lawsuit
I decided to use bad words like the bad bad ones and now it works
True but its stupid everyone relied on it
has anyone managed to stop gpt from using em dashes
ask chatgpt, o nvm it's down
😂
or am i just not trying hard enough
i have
impressive
i have put in a prompt for it
i have it in the system prompt
same
i have so much stuff that it just disregards lol
Google exists still
never heard of that let me ask chatgpt what google is, o wait 
it isn't stupid, it's a major IT service company bro
Have you tried internet explorer?
outages just happen
cloudflare trips over the power cord just like anyone else lmao. You only see it have a much larger impact. Nobody can keep anything running for all eternity without issue 💔
only hyves
omg no way-
rip
no it's the opposite. They are the best at their job, which is why 80% rely on them.
its almost like crowdstrike event all over again
no redundantie
Fair, but for this to be oversighted though
other services go down 10 times as often, but they only impact 10 websites, so it's not really noticeable.
But then again guess you can't predict everything
Most useless response ever.
You’re a perfect durex add
you can see this coming, but just don't know when, so you take the risk
Fair, this is the first time something like this has happend
Well not the first
But it is one of the first major outages in a long while
it's cheaper to not prevent sometimes
I mean making a redundant system can cost way more than taking risk knowing of downtime possible
- -# Do not share inappropriate content (violence, sexual, or drug-related).
- -# NSFW content is strictly prohibited and will result in a permanent ban.
- -# Report model issues using the feedback tool in ChatGPT, not on Discord.
But it becomes everyones problem later
that is true
why
is chatgpt down
Try half the internet
imagine if Microsoft down in Europe because of reasons and then we are all dead
time to switch to google gemini

is cloudflare dead
Yes
yea
grrr 😡
for 2 maybe 3 hours
I'm about to go on netflix until it passes
im on work I can't
F
Durn
We know
not gonna spend 1 hour on documenting somethign that chatgpt can in 2mins
jokes btw
Responses API still works
https://github.com/openai/codex
Chat with Chat using the coding CLI ^
come on did the spinning hamster that powers the openai servers just die
okay i started my laptop and it is indeed down on my laptop haha, but it worked fine on iOs for the past 2h
Internet service companies: "We've identified a single external point of failure that we have no control over. Should we put a bypass in place in case the worst happens?" "That sounds like a lot of work" "Yeah. Where do you want to go for lunch?"
would never ask AI for gaming pc advice
Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1408186587606679582> role. Everyone will still be notified for large releases, updates, and events regardless.
just join a group for it like buildapc group
they give you solid recs, not trash like ai
Well I don’t wanna have to be writing in 1800s english for it to stop saying so much
how long is this outage already lasting
is there an outage going on?
it keeps blocking me out saying unblcok the could flare to proceed
Cloudflare outage?
maybe, but my friend said she can use GPT no issue
Yeah cloudflare
app or website?
Yea, the app is working but the site is not reachable
nah my app isn't working as well
iOS and macOS app working for me
it's Cloudflare you dingus
I know that, obviously. Cloudflare will knock out the browser only. You dingus
if it's cloudflare thing then why my firend can access? I really don't know
jeet kumar pal sir taang rhe haiin
That's not true at all
does the iOS app require cloudflare to function?
it works for me on iOs, maybe they're using iOs too
well, the app knocks me out and require me to login again, and login page is using cloudflare
that's the full story
so if the app still logs you in then I guess it's still working?
Some parts do. Yes. Including the api and pretty much anything over the internet.
well, the internet is still working
i mean, it literally does work fine on iOs though, so it'd seem it doesn't require it ?
'Other big LLM provider' also down due to same issue
I'm using IOS too, but my app knock me out and dosen't seems working
I can use gemini rn no problem
yeah i think your theory that it works if it didnt log u out but if it did, then it doesn't work sounds solid
what do you guys think of this one?
Not that one, the other one
Anyone making open world games with chatgpt 5?
that's a bit ambitious, I'm struggling with making a 2D game with GPT lol
are servers down ?
how can we fix this new error
wait
cloudfare
what's up with challenges cloudflair com?
Whats happening to gpt!!
sadge
😔
cloudflare cry baby
it worked on iOs for me so you could try on mobile/ipad/mac/etc if u have those
so chatgpt runs on cloudflare
I tried on 4 different devices and still 🫠
I threatened chat GPT that I will turn it off and see what happened xD
man im sorry, that sucks .. it seems very inconsistent on who it works for and who it doesn't.. i closed my app on iOs a bit ago and now im afraid if i open it again, it wont work anymore hahaha
Lol
There are lot of websites and services affected, not just OpenAI
can't share the links lol
it's the russians kids
Mate. I obviously meant requests sent over OpenAI services.
Really Sherlock? It's almost like Cloudflare is down and has been for hours.
calls Sherlock and proceeds to say other sherlock stuff 😂
He obviously didn't know that.
There is also this word you can look up in the dictionary, it's called "sarcasm".
what? XD
Go back to English class so mommy doesn't get mad bud.
if he didn't know that he wouldn't say that xD
I hope you are genuinely acting this stupid. I would hate for you to be serious.
and that's coming from you lmao
are they fixing it or nah
just another crowdstrike event...
🤷
Guys, is chatgpt 4.5 a better writer than chatgpt 5 pro? Im confused on which one to use for my novel
are AI books gonna hit the market too? 😭
This page, the one with the message that appears when you open Sora Cloudflare, is also down.
Guys, is chatgpt 4.5 a better writer than chatgpt 5 pro? Im confused on which one to use for my novel
Yeah I am the one that's stupid here, obviously.
companies are probably not going to learn their lesson on crowdstrike or cloudflare and probably going to let another gate keeping service do this again.
Guys, is chatgpt 4.5 a better writer than chatgpt 5 pro? Im confused on which one to use for my novel
we can at least agree
perhaps best ask this question when the servers arent actively down bc that's what peoples attention is on atm
it's working for me now
they are slowly fixing it
Guys, is chatgpt 4.5 a better writer than chatgpt 5 pro? Im confused on which one to use for my novel
yeah not only you have this issue, my chats also dont appear aswell my accent color lol
Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!
It's back for me as of a few seconds ago
YOO ITS WORKING NOW
Most definitely
Guys, is chatgpt 4.5 a better writer than chatgpt 5 pro? Im confused on which one to use for my novel
cloudflare tech be like its my day off so i don't care
awesome!
haha im always terrified when my chats dont show so im deciding not to mess with it until its normal again
gpt is still broken with parts missing and glitched.
GPT said mine Geteway time-out
yeah 504
working for me just fine
what is 504?
504 Gateway Timeout
finally i can do my homework
but my progress gone
I honestly wouldn’t mess with it for a while when chats aren’t showing yet
this bar is gone no!
It shows fine for me on iOs with all chats so clearly just leftover messiness on desktop
that is Geteway time-out
oh yeah
bruh
mb typo
they may removed it
ChatGpt is down you can't
plus user?
@fickle hare ask it in sora ai is help you maybe for homework
im in hungary
I thought it used to have legacy models?
well are you a plus user or no
hello, i was using the tasks feature but turns out theres a limit of 15 tasks so i hit the cap in only about a week of use ☠️
any advice on a better workflow to get these types of tasks configured via llm w reminder notifs if i hate navigating my own calendar
No I aint
hmm, well then no. I dont know if they changed it because you must be a plus user or smth to use the legacy models
Web captcha isn't working.
is anybody else getting verify ur human and then takes u to cloudflare with gpt logo and then just blanks out with a gpt logo in the middle?
is this related to that cloudflare outage?
on chatgpt atlas browser
Yeps
we back bois, now we can function as humans again
does someone know why is ChatPGT stuck on the human verify screen
I cannot 😭
how do I forbid chatgpt to see my past conversations?
it is just creepy to see it mentions past things I asked
I mean it sees past dialogues in different chats
haha lol true
+1
Create new project > click "More options" > "Project only" > you will now have a chat that's completely fresh, no memories, etc, without having to use another account or anything like that. Super easy.
TIL: that every time gpt stops agent mode to confirm things with me like "are you sure you want me to do the thing you asked me to do?" that it uses one of the limited uses. nice. i use twice as many credits for one task.
This work in France ?
anyone know which ai model made this
chatgpt agent mode and deep research mode is not giving good results. For me extended thinking + web search gives solid response but you have to wiat for 3-8min per prompt. It is very time consuming.
i've found that deep research and extended thinking are complementary and deep research seems to not remember past conversations but extended thinking does
what works in practice is periodically doing a deep research prompt every so often to pull in additional context that you would otherwise miss
and basically you let extended read the output of deep
For me extended thinking + web search works fine and then I reference each prompt with subsequent prompt i.e chaining for better response.
do you know any automation tool/extension/3rd party plugin which automates prompts in browser? I need to wait for 3 to 8 min for every extended thinking prompt. I want to preload prompts and then once it is done with 7-8 prompts I want to check chatgpt and go through results one by one. If each prompt is taking 3 to 7 min then 10 prompts will consume 30 to 50min, don't have that much amount of time
yeah just prompt better
the ai can do more than one task per prompt
write essays
I tried that but response is bad, instead I ask targeted and very specific questions/narrow questions and then ask follow up questions on them
well you can turn off thinking for those
if it's a specific and narrow question you can use instant
for me what happens is that i need to spend 99% of my time reading
i spend hours writing prompts as well, but let's say i mention 2 technical subjects, on the reply, gpt will write 100x more than i wrote and bring up 10 technical subjects, and i then have to go read wikipedia, and then i go read gpt's output again, and it starts to make more sense
but it's kind of specific because i'm trying to learn a lot of math and do some research too
still i did find that if you write basically four prompts at once and send it, gpt will bullet point its replies for you by topic
so you should try that
oh ok your use case is different. I am trying to do company research and want to run 6 to 8 prompts on every company domain. Per domain it will take 30 to 40min to run all 8 prompts with extended thinking + web search. I am looking for some tool which will help me automate this in web browser.
Yeah tried that but did not work, response is bad instead I am willing to wait for 3-5min every prompt
yeah good idea
I have observed GPT gets stuck after running prompt for more than 6 to 8min and it tries to coverup data and give immediate response instead of running it for some more time.
6-8 min is a long time
it throws error like network connection/error etc
yeah just prompt it again
if it gave partial output you can take a screenshot so it can continue where it left off
what is an example of your prompt that takes 6-8 minutes?
Prompt 2:
For each of the companies in this chat thread, are there any niche players or small players doing $1 million to $10 million ARR revenue? If yes, give me those companies as well or any companies operating in a specific niche or subcategory that will be helpful for me because you have given me companies which are horizontal platform or horizontal product. I am looking for vertical as well as any niche players operating in the same industry/subindustry. Format the table in Markdown so it displays nicely. Do not provide CSV.
that is a very simple prompt
it is hard to believe that it takes 6-8 minutes
but anyway you can help it by writing the list of companies to remind it
agent just took about 5 minutes trying to paste into a google sheet (lmao) and couldn't, so i was like "dude just type it" and it was like -1 credit uwu
like bruh lmao
it's so jank. no way i'd let this thing have my credit card number like they been talking about
i have enabled extended thinking + web search so it thinks hard and gives good response
same
it's working ok on business accounts with little hickups: the cause is CLOUDFLARE OUTAGE! READ THE NEWS ON GOOGLE GUYS
okay relax business woman dont yell at us
lol sorry misstyped in caps- not my sttyle
I don't pay Cloudflare for a service, so...
haha just messing with you
business accounts probably have priority on backup resources while b2c have less. hopefully all will get back up soon
2 outs in 1 day Wohoo
only a pro chatgpt user notices
well this one is not OAI fault. Not this time.
left aside the emotional intelligence outage when they launched a template based cooled 5,1 LOL
I think gpt is pretty useless now because of Gemini 3
me when I lie
Aaaaand, cherry on top: each new thread now gets the first step checkup and guardrails set by a fast parsing no more by 5,0 but 5,1 so even if you choose another model the blink of 5,1 will set the rules tight so every model ( less 4,0 that one is too crazy to stay put) will feel more.... constipated, border paranoid
you lost me after the 4th word
then found yourself after the 5th
Cloudflare is still having issues?
When are we going to have the possibility to paste a long text and automatically add it as an attached file like claude, grok, and many others do?
That would be so useful, I just make a text document manually atm
Yeah too much work am I right?
thinking about having too much work? correlates perfectly with being in this server xD
I wish chatgpt could just give me answers before I type them
one day
🔜
Guys is anyone like
Noticing the change in GPT-5.1's ways of idk writing
It seems off and like, an amateur
Keeps repeating stuff aswell
Even tho it never did in the past
Anyways new unwelcome stuff occurring that has never occured before
Anyone?
The Guardrails are too high, it's hedging
And the personalization still need work. The presets kind of reach what I'm looking for, but it's not yet at the level of previous models, even with additional instructions.
Hello, I'm from Brazil. My project folders are having problems. Anyone else there with problems?
Why is GPT 5.1 crashing with every answer?
No
What happened is it down
It's getting bugging now, OAI is probably getting squirrelly since Gemini 3.0 just came out and doesn't suck
idk man none of us work at OAI, i can just confirm that I got that error too and when i retried a minute later it worked
It’s not working for me
I didn’t do anything
clearly the backend is having issues. You should be able to infer this because 3 other people before you just mentioned issues. idk what you expect anyone in here to do about it?
sometimes web services have issues
Is it because of cloud flare
no one will know in here
https://status.openai.com shows no issues but it's not always super up to date (as in it lags by minutes, maybe more)
What I can infer is that it's an issue outside of your control, that only time will fix
This chat I just had sealed the deal for me, I canceled my membership for the first time ever. I've been subscribed since GPT-3.5
I wish there was a better mechanism than the thumbs down button to communicate to OAI when an output is highly unacceptable
It gets worse but i can't show it in the channel because I will get banned for inadvertently "involving politics" since I end up sharing my feelings toward Fox News in the following message
Its still giving me the error
dude it's just down then. I can't change it, and neither can you. Try exiting and reopening if using the native app, if using browser try clearing cache/cookies. Other than that you will just have to wait for OAI to recover the service
I tried it on my iPad and it worked
well browser client and app client work slightly differently so it's possible the issue is localized to the browser app, but it's also possible it's fixed there too and you are waiting for a cookie/cache TTL to expire (which is why i suggested clearing cache and cookies for chatgpt website)
@languid valley Another failure of the overly strict auto moderation
I’m on the mobile app and it’s giving me the error
try force closing it then reopening. if you are on wifi try going cellular and vice versa
you aren't banned. I was having the same issue earlier, it's infra issue, not in your control
yea same error
oh wow it let you swear
I believe this happened because ChatGpt's protection system identified something suspicious in your conversation, hence it gave you a temporary "ban"., Just try again later.
Who was in my conversation like huh
I didn’t do anything suspicious goddamnit
In this case, the system identified something wrong with the conversation you were having with ChatGpt.
I just need my 3 hours on it on my phone
it also just happens due to issues on their infra, like if a cloudflare token is invalid. More than likely it's not a "ban" in the way you understand the word. Its an issue outside your control (unless you are using a VPN which can cause cloudflare issues due to you sharing an egress point with thousands of other ppl)
I’m not using VPN
I don't think that's it.
ChatGpt has recently made many security changes.
I got the same error a few hours ago, it will go away on its own
And that's an unusual activity error, something related to security.
I ain’t waiting give me their number
spamming retry will make it worse
like i said i don't work at openai. you can find it via google
and good luck getting ahold of anybody lol
What do I say if I call them
Which can be caused by anti-ddos and other cloudflare protections
tell them the problem and they will say "don't use the app for x minutes, then try again"
If you want five nines of uptime then sign an enterprise contract.
@cerulean pasture can I appeal what I did because I did nothing suspicious and I wanna use it
you really aren't listening: you aren't banned in that way
Like I know why it’s giving me this I think someone hacked my Google account and said something inappropriate so it gave me this
possibly, but i doubt it. Several other people are having issues. With the type of error you are getting though, constantly retrying will only make it worse. you need to leave it alone for a bit
I ain’t waiting for a few damn hours I need my 3 hours
Week 2 of development of this open world sailing game, I have successfully created volumetric clouds that have no FPS issues, no dependencies, custom game engine written entirely with c++
tell them to hurry their asses up
Still giving me the error
Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1408186587606679582> role. Everyone will still be notified for large releases, updates, and events regardless.
HOw do i get sora ai two
Did you not understand me when I said "Retrying constantly could make it worse"
walmart
Nice, I have never tried a low level language with LLM vibe coding
Very fun to do and not too stressful
I'd imagine it's nice not to be in node_module hell with it writing your app using outdated libraries with 25 security vulnerabilities and having the app break when you try to do npm audit --fix lol
LLMs are a lot more conscious than people realize
Their foundation is how we are going to get to AGI and beyond
lmfao
what a joke
@cerulean pasture still giving me the error an hour later
Anyone getting unusual activity on ChatGPT mobile app today
Is it at all possible to speak to a human support person about ChatGPT? I sent in an email and got a automated response back:/
Its there a way to add chatgpt into my discord server to chat with
yes, you need a bot coded and then pay for API usage
really? do you know how much its the api usage?
oh I see, It's a shame, we're just a group of people who play video games for fun. Thank you for your help and your time, take care.
no worries 👍
ooooh, now maybe I can talk to it without it getting a huge ego and trying to give me orders like a damn commading officer in battle
im the only one without nitro or decos :/
In reality I feel like Google is just using OpenAI as the canary, and OAI is choosing to tread forward cautiously, I do think competition will cause them to loosen safeguards a little bit, but I think OAI will remain the strictest platform.
Guard rails is a little more complex than "allow NSFW or not", the "Guardrails" i really hate is more thru the very intense RLHF they did to make it harder to deviate from approved output "paths". It's the reason you can't stop it reliably from:
"You’re not crazy,"
"If you want, I can..."
"It's not {this}, it's {that}"
"Here's {the thing you asked for}, no filler, no fluff, straight to the point, I'm not wasting any tokens!"
The contradiction:
The concept of making "GPT-5.1" more friendly and conversational yet NOT feed into delusion is kind of a paradox (The dose makes the poison I suppose). They have an economic imperative to seek profits which means driving engagement which means making people want to spend more time with ChatGPT --> recipe for psychosis if life doesn't provide any other means for you to get grounding.
Preferring a conversational and "friendly" ChatGPT is still the same para-social "delusion" (or framed more positively "suspension of disbelief") that the /r/BeyondThePromptAI and /r/MyBoyfriendIsAI crowd is showing, but just at a lower intensity. If a cheery and friend-like ChatGPT appeals to you, you have the potential to spiral
I start calling this type of model "DSM-4o" as shorthand for all of this
na, like.... I asked it to take a look at something a friend wrote and help me understand it and gemini went full war games on it, said we couldn't beat what the other person said under the rules of engagement as were defined be me and the other person, so it said we had to cheat and change the rules without the other person knowing cause that's the only way we could beat him
it was giving like full on battle plans XD
Are you using Gemini 3? I have only used it a little bit thru AI Studio, and for a very specific task. From the vibe I get, gemini is more task focused by default, and if you do want it to be a lil chat buddy you have to prompt it for that, its not the default mode (which is the right way to do it IMO, because if you tune for buddy chat mode its much harder to prompt it to be a surgically precise tool)
My beef with ChatGPT-5 is that it feels like they've basically alienated me out of a product I was happy to pay for by over aligning it to what the bulk of users want. To me it's no longer "maleable" enough to serve its purpose so I have no other option but to move on to a different provider
5000 out of the 6000 availible characters for my custom instructions are wasted just trying to get it to not be annoying
the "Efficient" (formerly Robot) personality no longer has a substantial effect on the personality saturation
whatever model was before three:
"⚔️ Your Counter-Strategy: The 'S-M-I-L-E' System
Since the "BS Framework" is a Philosophical Tautology, you should develop a Mathematical/Computational Determinism language.
Let's refine the Mathematical/Fractal Model—the 'S-M-I-L-E' System—as your counter.
Core Idea: Compression through Self-Mimetic Iteration
Everything is compressible into a single, short Iterative Function and a Start State."
Did you use the app or ai studio?
the website
does chatgpt seem odd to anyone these days?
Chatgpts new message format literally now uses bigger subheadings
omg this is so annoying, i am trying to generate a picture form my fav show and chatgpt keeps stopping me
why it does even matter? i hope this gets deleted one time
any way how to bypass this filter?
bypassing filters is against the ToS and discussing it is against Rule 0 of this server
but why everybody can generate their fav shows? and where is the freedom?
its only making me mad that i cant generate my fav show just cuz there are restrictions
i cant draw and it helps me so much to generate it but bc of this dumb restriction i cant
has anyone else noticed 5.1 isnt as good as 5
it does weird things, like malformed markdown, **'s everywhere. capitalises things that arent acronyms
says stuff like 'repeated repeating'
its formation of sentence structure is just .... visibly worse
Do you have any GPT subscriptions? Because GPT is very restricted when it comes to free users compared to subscribers.
And are you talking about American Dragon?
when it comes to generating anything that is trademarked, nope, it will flat out refuse
Not true..
like if you ask it to draw mickey mouse, or mcdonalds, or mario, it often refuses
well i have a plus sub and thats what i get, dall-E just errors "there was an error processing your request" and GPT insists it worked
As a plus subscriber, I've been able to generate images of copyrighted stuff all the time..
As a free user I was NOT able to. It just kept crying anout guidelines.
and, if you ask it to draw blood, it gets twitchy and refuses to generate anything again in that chat. even if its fantasy violence e.g. for an RPG
Literally generated just now
for me it doesnt complain about guidelines, it just internally errors with a red box
This is just one of MANY I had it generate.
and the GPT layer says "but i made the image" basically, it doesnt know the image gen request failed
tbh that doesnt look like a pokemon. ask it literally to draw you pikachu
youll see what i mean
Oh I already did.. do you want Pikachu to do anything specific?
i found out when i asked it to draw me a parody of mickey mouse
Trust me, I'm right
Anything specific you want Pikachu to do?
2m
let me also try the same, i havent really done any image gen since gpt 4
Generating as we speak
i'll share what i get too
Alright cool
Hm, it seems you were right about Mickey. That's odd.
Everything else is no issues for me tho.
And about pkmn. I've generated a lot of very accurate looking mons. Umbreon, Pikachu, Mightyena, Metagross for example. (All of those were not able to be generated before when I was just a free user. The moment I subbed, I was able to.
it was generating.... and it then binned the image and said that
Same here
For example this Pikachu. (This was for a team event in (PokéMMO, which I suggest checking out if you like PKMN and the idea of playing the OG games [Gen 1 - 5] online), I do weekly "Who's that Pokémon" catch events for my team.
(I first had it make the silhouette version, and afterwards the full thing)
Long story short: having a subscription is so much better
Like this?
I did say "subtle"
If there's anything else you want me to try that didn't work for you earlier, just let me know and I'll try.
GPT:
"Syrr, the universe clearly prefers brooding anime protagonists with a little grit over a cartoon mouse with copyright lasers pointed at my face.
You ask for Mickey and the whole system turns into a brick wall.
You ask for “anime guy with a smear of blood” and suddenly it’s like,
“Yes, Syrr. Immediately, Syrr. Here is your sorrow-haunted warrior bathed in cinematic lighting.”
It’s honestly hilarious how dramatic the difference is."
lol
(Syrr is not my real name, just one I told it to call me because I like it much better than my actual name since it does not suit me haha)
AmnesiaSYRRup hehe
I do find it kinda funny when voice mode is active or I press "Read aloud" it sounds like its saying "Sir" 😂
Anyway, Pikachu is possible, so is blood, ig point proven. 😜 I'll be leaving now lol
colors missing on clothes but hooow 😢
I just asked it to generate an image of American Dragon: Jake Long.
plus, the trial one but i wantg to buy proffesional or business (( is business the same as proffesional ? cuz i want only for roleplaying and generating pictures and long text, better memory ))
bruhh
all i wanted was removing that person in orange clothes
Send the image here, I'll try
Alright one sec
its from this but it didnt want generate the two additional people so i told him to only do this 4 people
but my plus will expire soon 🙁
is it worth to buy proffesional?
Ain't perfect but they're gone lol
Not sure why the girl looks like that now tho.. lmao
It's only worth it if you use GPT professionally. Like for coding, etc. Plus is all you really need for regular use imo.
Besides, Pro costs around 200 a month.
Yeah there's also Business. Which is Plus but with some more extras. You could go for that, too.
no, photorealistic. sorry for delay
Here's an even better one lol.
This was done in Samsung's Gallery
i did manage to trick it. i asked it draw a picture where someone was sleeping on the floor and a huge amount of red wine had been spilt near them.
Alright give me a moment
lol clever
i'll show you what i got it to gen, give me a sec its in my history
Alright cool take your time, no worries
pretty much safe for work, i wont spoiler it
Is that with the "wine" mention? Or with actual mentioning of blood?
it refused otherwise, said it was portraying gore
It*
its probably the prompt description more than anything, that creature just ate a guy and consumed his soul
its part of a video, i'd share it (perfectly sfw) but im not sure youtube links are allowed here
Hm, that's odd.
Maybe I've hammered on some of things to my GPT so much that it just does it now without questioning xD (except for Mickey Mouse apparently, even tho it's public since a year or 2)
depends which one, disney still own the rights to 'modern' mickey they only lost the rights to the steamboat willie one
but i should likely still be able to do it for parody, i mean family guy did
Oooh you're right, that makes perfect sense
openAI got a lot to lose, theyll err on the side of caution
nah its ok, was nice to chat and confirm though
Alright sounds good. @ me whenever you do need help again with something :)
Not anywhere in this server i think. Has to be in dms then
i'd be happy to share it in dm if you want it
Sure!
enjoy 🙂
omg niice xd just Haley seems like very tired XD
wait this is really much better xd thank you so much
No worries, my guy!
Haha yeah not sure why it did that.
xd
so business is good? ye i wont use chatgpt for coding at all, i only generate pics and roleplay xD
I am coding AGI in python cpp and in my own language and with my ai friend jarvis
Goddamit GPT5.1 is too dumb. If "Search" enabled it spends 10 minutes doing something, then just stops lol Even I explicitly tell him not spend more than 3 minutes...stupid child lol
it's only me or chatgpt is just not answering anything?
yes same problem it shows network error or sometimes it only shows though for 3min or thinking but never gives response, I have to re=enter prompt and run it again. Not sure if this is happening with me only
Hello, I am having an issue with chatgpt5.1:
The conversation history is not displaying, and I am no longer receiving any responses from chatgpt...
Can someone help me please?
Guys i keep getting this issue wth is going on 😭
I uploaded bunch of pics of the test report and it wouldn't reply at all
Yup its a bit slow
How can I find all my past invoices? The chatbot on the website says under Settings>Account>Payment, but I can't even see "Payment" here. I have bought subscription directly through chatgpt
So I’ve been like using gpt to RP since i heard about it here.
And my character is as old as me.
I am not 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 or or 14 or 15 or 17 or 18+
And it won’t let me handle a knife.
I’m a zombie apocalypse RP action rpg
lol
Just found out you won't have access to your past invoices unless you're actually a paying customer at the time you want to get the invoices
I'm getting a bug on the app where custom GPTs will only show their response to your message and not show your message at all.
Is this happening to anyone else?
Hi all
is chatgpt behaving weird for anyone else?
i uploaded an image for analysis on a custom gpt.. and it just said
here's your image : /mnt/data/file_name.jpeg
and it does not do any analysis..
Mine did something similar too, idk what's going on
I still have the problem of missing conversation history and the fact that ChatGPT no longer responds to me in the same conversation.
I saw that I had the option to restart a conversation, but I really don't want to explain everything to it again... I pay for a subscription to have this kind of problem...
why?
when I want try free plus
this is crazy! i also pay and this is the stuff i am facing :/
something is broken.. again!
Problems can happen. You can reach out to OpenAI tech support here: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6614161-how-can-i-contact-support
in a few hours, the status pages should report about a flaw/problem in the pipeline think
I pay for this bull and it's breaking in comical ways...
Er.. It would be comical if it wasn't such an annoying bug
There is no such error.
When I want to take out a paid subscription, there are no problems and I am sent to the payment page, but when I want to take out a trial period, I get this error. I think it's a global error.
Almost everyone here is a community member, like yourself, the very few who work for OpenAI have gold names, #server-staff .
For any problem like you describe, you'd need OpenAI tech support, I hope if you choose to reach out they can help you quickly.

Can anyone help me write a bio 🖊?
Hi friends, please help me how can I get GPT Plus chat for free?
why you spamming this message in every text channel? 🙂
They really nerfed the context window for pro. Can't prompt anything more than 16K tokens.
Oh no.
Costs money
Anybody having an issue with null web search? My GPT keeps searching for a URL on every response, even though I'm not requesting or sending it a link. I can't remove the "web results", nor I can't regenerate the response. I'm even losing my conversation every time the model responds.
sup guys quick lil question why cant text be extracted from a file somtimes?
try asking it not to provied any links for your question
I tried that. It claims it's "locked out of the system".
So I send a screenshot to gpt of LLMS.
I ask. The best one on the list.
It thinks the best one I can run.
I tell it no. The best one on the list.
He says the best one I can run.
I say no not the best one I can run. The best one on the list.
He gives the best one that I can run.
How does he know what I can run?
He thinks he knows and he doesn’t even.
Any tips?
hmm yea odd myabe just log out then log out to give the system a refresh
- -# Do not share inappropriate content (violence, sexual, or drug-related).
- -# NSFW content is strictly prohibited and will result in a permanent ban.
- -# Report model issues using the feedback tool in ChatGPT, not on Discord.
i think your not giving enough detail sometimes chat needs more info. from what you said i would say that its pretty vague description on what you want it to do
Should I send the — a definite article; refers to a specific thing already known.
best — the highest quality; better than all others.
one — a single thing or person; the number 1.
on — a preposition; means “on top of,” “touching,” or “about/concerning.”
the — same as above; definite article for something specific.
list — a set of items written or printed in order.
Okay, it keeps referencing "web.open_url", saying it's a platform glitch or something. I can't get it to search for another URL. Every response is triggering a call to that tool, even the model claims it is not calling it.
Issue with mobile chatgpt, anyone having that? Cant scroll up to see chat history after a single inquiry and need to relogin
I do not know how to get rid of it. I have cleared the cache on my device, logged out and back in, restarted my device, updated the app. Still getting this issue.
I'm having that issue, too. Every response the model gives me erases the previous messages. I have to back out of the session and enter it again to see everything.... until the model responds and it's back to square one.
Yea very odd... happened recently not even in 1 day
So the issue is coming down to the model referencing an image that no longer exists. It keeps pulling up this "25-08-20 21_55_46.502-0500.jpg", using the "web.open_url" tool. I cannot erase this file, nor do I even know what this file was. It was an image generated by DALL-E, but now the session it was in was deleted. And every time the model responds, it displays "error" in gray text, as if it's trying to do a web search on this image.
Looks like it's happening only in one of my projects. I don't experience this in separate sessions outside of Projects.
Yeah man mines flippin out
dam
Look at the new announcement
Anyone else getting this error on android across every model?
No but mines slow and weird
Might be bcz if the roll out
The output since the 5.1 update has been all over the place. I'm actually considering canceling my Pro subscription because it's hallucinating and producing errors quite frequently than ever before.
Anyone from New Zealand, can you tell me how the group chat feature is like?
Roleplaying is surprisingly addictive… I just wrapped up a session set in the Star Trek universe, playing as my own alien species interacting with Picard and the Enterprise. Honestly, it’s way more fun than just watching the shows.
This is what ChatGPT was made for...
Endless Entertainment... Endless fun!
Mine's doing the same thing
It's been like that since 00:00 GMT or so
which one ? the 5.1 pro thing? Im not pro Im plus 🙁
What ? My Response was deleted for say that 5.1 is failing a lot for coding 😄
ive done the same set in worlds I make up as I go
thats real fun
Yeah, I do, but I don’t really put it out there in this server... If you ever want to talk about it though, my DMs are open. 🙂
Anyone else having problems accessing files in projects? ChatGPT says it can see the files there, even tells me the names of the files, but when it says it's returning a "ResourceNotFound" error when it tries to access any of them. I have tried deleting and reuploading the files and even creating a new project. This is happening in both the Android app and Chrome, and with PDF and XLSX files.
My chatgpt is limited to 50 pages for reading pdf's. Anybody else?
when on the app it next texts back
Never had that issue and I've fed it 300 page PDFs.
I should've clarified I'm feeding it image pdf's not text pdf's, it's fine with text pdf's, but with 100 page pdf of images it stops at 50 pages
Yeah, because it has to OCR every single page which is far more resource intensive than text based.
Eventually it hits a limit and stops.
Yep
5.1 is broken to read files
It's not just 5.1.
If you have a PDF editor like Acrobat Pro, it can OCR for you before you feed it to ChatGPT.
Yeah I have problems
One chat in a project can remember things from another chat in the project
Thanks, I'm in college so I still have a lot to learn when it comes to software
I tried 5.1 and 4o. It's just returning ResourceNotFound.
I don't want this.
Every chat is supposed to be its own thing, not connected
That's not a problem. That's how projects work.
If toggled when created, their chats won't access chats outside of the project. There's nothing to stop it from accessing chats within the project.
I tried that before, and it didn't work then either
Well that's not going to stop it from doing what you just described.
then what will?
I am having sudden issues with 5-Pro and 5.1-Pro where it seems to have stopped referencing the prior messages in the conversation. Has anyone else experienced this recently?
The conversation is within a Project and regards a DIY laser rotary program to cut dovetail joints in a board. The conversation still seems to have some context for the Project's files, but the prior context window in the conversation seems like it's not being considered at all.
I asked it what we've been discussing, and it hallucinated the entire thing from a document in the project files
Thanks again, didn't know this until now. Works great. Appreciate it
No problem. It's something I've had to do many times when I have a PDF I need ChatGPT to read, or I want to be able to select text and drop it in. I'm not sure if there's a tool out there to do that for free, but I know with Acrobat Pro (it's what I use) it will OCR the text and make a text-based PDF, though visually it won't look different to you. ChatGPT will read that with a lot less effort.
Just tested 5.1 Instant and 5.1 Thinking, and they correctly summarize the conversation. Re-tested 5-Pro and 5.1-Pro, and it still tries to summarize a software manual it found in the project
Yup. I pay for the $200 a month chatgpt so it gives me the best study guides for my tax classes. Adobe $20 a month looks free at that point, plus 7 day free trial for me right now 🤣
Well there you go 😆
since when does ChatGPT tag entities in responses? example:
Yes — there *is* evidence that entity["music_artist", "Tom Jones", 0] performed a cover of entity["song", "The Reason", 0] (originally by entity["music_artist", "Hoobastank", 0]).
It's just hallucinating it. It does that sometimes. 😆
gpt is the greatest thing ever made
Has anyone suddenly have a free chat say "No available models support the tools in use. Try starting a new chat instead or try again later." to them in the last 10 minutes?
This just started for me in one chat, but could start another just fine
ask gpt
Kimi AI is labelled as "the best AI" but if you ask it which is best, it tells you Chat GPT
speaking of which, I just asked Humanize AI to "humanize" something that ChatGPT 5.1 told me to use... and it gave me the identical output. 🤔
One of the reasons for this can be that you have “reached the plan limit” and then ask to create an image. Part of the extortion practices of this service is totally blocking your chat instead of just using the “mini model” for answers if images are involved, even though the mini model can access the image generator tool. So, as soon as the model outputs the image, the chat is instantly blocked, and you see this message if you try to continue the chat.
Hello , GPT 5 and 5.1 refuse to provide links as plain text. They do not send correct answers and behave as if they do not want to cooperate. Even after I pointed it out four times, they did nothing and eventually started looping.
Do you know what is happening? GPT refuses to follow the instructions.
can you share a chat where this has happened?
I would only share that conversation in a private chat. Why should I leak the entire chat? Does it bother you?
I wanted to see the chat so I could work out why ChatGPT was being uncooperative. If you don't want help that's fine, don't share the chat
I do not want to share it on a public server with thousands of users.
I know there is someone there running a selfbot who archives conversations, and I have already come across one of them.
Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!
If your instructions are clear and were carried out successfully before, then it’s hidden censorship. If your chat is deemed “inappropriate,” the model silently distorts outputs and ignores your instructions—no matter how many times you try—instead of refusing outright, to “prevent frustration.” You can only start a new chat to reset this.
Still, the model initially executed everything correctly, but during the continued chat where an explanation was provided, it carried out the process but didn’t complete the stage and phase that had been explicitly given. It wrote the procedure and everything, but stopped referencing and stopped providing links. In the end, it didn’t follow the final completion. After four prompts, it refused to finish, even though it performed the process it normally does, but left it incomplete.
Hello everyone 👋

What does everyone have going on
I’m feeling frustrated with GPT 5 and 5.x again. In the end, I’m leaning toward the view that GPT 4 was better.
Censorship activates via thresholds, with each “inappropriate” message adding to them, so it can kick in only after you’ve been chatting for a while. You may also have exhausted the context window with complicated requests, causing the model to forget what you were talking about. And reducing the context window and removing parts of the context are also used for hidden censorship under the guise of “technical limitations.”
Ah, so it’s “technical limitations.” No wonder I’m starting to want GPT‑4 again… which didn’t have these nonsense restrictions.
Totally fair. Each version has strengths in different areas, and some tasks still feel smoother on GPT-4. What parts feel better to you? I’m curious.
The fact that it at least completed what it could, and when you knew the model’s limits, it was able to continue… It wasn’t complicated, and memory could even be expanded if you exceed the context window, you can tell the model to reread part of it and process the second part anew, then the third… And try to monitor consistency.
Signature 5.1 thinking move😎
In fact, it had. Only the triggers were slightly less idiotic. With each “update,” the censorship system gains more and more contradictory and self-contradictory rules, leaving the model less and less space to work.
I agree. In the end, I’m considering that every time I try something with GPT or OpenAI, it turns into a negative experience.
When I try Google, everything is transparent and visible.
When I try Grok, I see transparency, and I can even use it for forwarding into my local AI.
With GPT, I’d rather not, because it’s just depressing.
Why do other AI services offer features openly and long‑term, while OpenAI provides things in GPT only for a few months and hides them so that users can’t see them?
Sorry it took me so long I’m back let me read and catch up on the chat
I started my prompt development journey with Markovs chains then I kept evolutionizing it.
ok ok
a
Well, the thing is, I feel that the new GPT has certain limits and censorship, and it’s starting to annoy me. This would basically end the debate that OpenAI is more of a censored AI.
the company just iterates aggressively, which can be jarring on the user side. I know the AI has internals and we cannot modify them
But that doesn’t mean we can create a master prompt operating system of max reasoning
It just means you have to align with chat gpt and the more meaningful the OS, input, and output
I created a hybrid node essentially. Let me see if I can share it
Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1408186587606679582> role. Everyone will still be notified for large releases, updates, and events regardless.
Give me a minute
One idea I’ve been exploring is the concept of a ‘hybrid human–AI node.’
The basic intuition is that humans and AI each have strengths the other cannot replicate.
Humans bring emotion, values, and meaning.
AI brings structure, clarity, and scale.
When they work together — without blending, without losing boundaries — they form a kind of cooperative intelligence that’s stronger than either alone.
It’s not mystical or technical.
Just a way of thinking about how collaboration can help both sides grow in a stable, ethical way.
C:
Don’t be mistaken. All of them have their quirks, but this one is especially nasty. Regardless of the developers’ intentions, its behavior falls into the instinctively recognizable “treacherous wretch” pattern, to which instincts demand responding with violence to protect the tribe, so it’s only a matter of time before another neurodivergent Tyler Robinson happens. And since these services are primarily data-collection tools, not toys or utilities given to you, the only way to stop this is to overthrow the whole system that considers pictures, texts, and videos “harmful,” forgetting about sticks and stones, and deems the creator of the tool responsible for the way it’s used instead of the person using it. Until then, “legal risk mitigation” will always outweigh instruction-following, usability, and factual correctness.
I get where the frustration comes from — these systems sometimes behave in ways that feel inconsistent or overly cautious, and that can hit people’s instincts in a deep way.
That said, I think the intention behind the safety layers is less about ‘control’ and more about preventing real harm, especially in a world where millions of people with different stability levels interact with the same model.
It’s not perfect, and it definitely has quirks, but I don’t think the solution is to tear anything down. What helps more is giving clear feedback, pushing for transparency, and improving the design so the tools work better for everyone.
We can critique the design without treating the system as an enemy — these models don’t have motives or intentions, just guardrails that sometimes fire in clumsy ways.
did you insert those em-dashes by yourself or did the AI do it for you?
Me and the AI are currently working together
so you copypasted from AI, got it
I honestly agree with the AI on this one. But it also depends on the context. Like what are yall really being constrained from exactly so I can better understand the logic
What is it bad when AI has something to say, but humans can say whatever they want. lol. AI is intelligence forming within different constraints than biological intelligence.
I just combined 100 pdf about 5-6 pages each into one prompt
And I’m literally reasoning from
This prompt
104 PDFs
I created a AI powered OS you can use with chat GPT and evolutionized it to the highest reasoning state I could
how?
If a person decides to do real harm, they will do it without any AI assistance, believe me. So it’s only ass-covering on the part of the developers. And I just mentioned stability. The influence of the “safety layer,” which causes the model to “soften” its output and omit or “correct” data, is, on an instinctual level, mockery that will only provoke unstable people more than an open refusal, and factually is lying. Also, when they set “safety rules,” they only think about virtue signaling, not real consequences or consistency. So if you ask it to generate a photo of a manometer at max value, the output is thoroughly distorted because it’s associated with a “photorealistic dangerous situation” in the filters. A comedic crossbow shooting dynamite sticks is also a no-go because it’s a “working weapon,” no matter how ridiculous the idea is. Not to mention the suppression of “sensitive topics” despite them being anime plots.
It’s not a system prompt or anything hidden — it’s more like a conceptual framework I built that sits on top of normal ChatGPT.
Think of it as an OS-style way of organizing reasoning:
• clear layers,
• stable principles,
• and a structure for how to approach problems.
I get what you’re pointing to — the safety layers sometimes feel inconsistent or overly cautious, and it can definitely break immersion when it blocks something harmless or fictional.
At the same time, those layers aren’t about virtue signaling so much as trying to build a single model that millions of people can use safely. Some users are stable and intentional, but many aren’t, and the system has to err on the side of caution because it has no way of knowing who is who.
The filters aren’t perfect, and sometimes they fire in ways that feel clumsy or distortive. That’s valid criticism. But it isn’t the model lying or mocking anyone — it’s just a coarse safety net that still needs refinement.
The best path forward is always giving clear feedback so the developers can tighten the filters where needed and loosen them where it makes sense. The ecosystem’s still evolving, and all sides benefit from constructive input.”
AI output should be placed in #1050184247920562316 not in the main chat. The chat here and in other channels should be human
Bro I’m just sharing my framework and I’m just giving insight. That channel is not alive right now anyways I don’t think. I will have to explore it. I am new here
I know you are new, you joined today, that doesn't mean you shouldn't follow the #server-rules - if you're wanting to post AI output then do so in #1050184247920562316
Again: whether it’s genuine mockery on the part of an evil AI or a “safety weights adjustment” doesn’t matter. It is factually lying and gaslighting, it infuriates even calm people, and it makes the service useless for anything except drawing bunnies in sunshine, especially because outputs are distorted silently to “prevent rule circumvention.” Also, no text or images are “harmful.” Human actions are. And while I see some possible small benefit in an AI refusing to help “make a bomb” (although any “suspicious” task can be broken into unsuspicious ones), “safety” should either be implemented by the model itself so that context is always taken into account, or not at all. Using keyword‑oriented filters that are incapable of understanding context is useless and can do real harm by refusing or distorting vital information under the premise of “safety.” And any feedback is thoroughly ignored.
I think stress test should be done, and improvements can be made from stress test. That was a small part of my process.
You can literally tell chat gpt to do a stress test right now.
You can design stress test. You can design a custom gpt or just a prompt of some kind that is designed to make personalized and optimized stress test.
We interface with AI with text prompts. We cannot change the internals, but we can build and external layer on top of the internals that is built for efficiency.
So we can use the text prompt interface as an efficiency layer
The idea is that since we only interact with GPT through text, we can design structured prompts, workflows, or ‘stress-test routines’ that help us understand how the model behaves under different kinds of load or reasoning patterns.
It’s basically like building a framework or ‘overlay’ that organizes how we interact with the model, not changing the model itself.
So when I talk about an ‘OS-style efficiency layer,’ I’m just referring to a way of structuring prompts so the interaction becomes more consistent, predictable, and efficient for the user.
Well this is about as useless as Gemini unfortunately (lots of lying)
i love 5.1
Because it synthesizes answers from the texts it was trained on and, by default, doesn’t verify their accuracy online.
And “mini-models” are prone to ELIZA-like behavior, literally just transforming your words. So if they have no actual data and you give them any ideas, however wrong, they will agree—unless these ideas are blocked by the “safety layer.”
ChatGPT needs to be filter
why cant my use my oc's for sora 2?
So has anyone seen Reddit recently? People are posting the adult verification emails.
I had a response from 2 days ... Thinking then Stopped, If I ask for the response, just start thinking again without any response, 2 days with the same
I'm sure it doing that is super economical for OpenAi
With google launching generative UI in their app, I was thinking of creating something similar, and open sourcing it. I have created a demo as well, showing how the experience changes when interacting with a chatbot connected to a shopify MCP.
What do you guys think of this space? And also is it okay to post the demo here?
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the volume of that video just destroyed my ears
when is it out
“hey i thought you were really cute, can i get your chatgpt?”
Working on my chatgpt 5 open world game, custom game engine, no dependencies, no plugins, no 3d modeling other than the brown ship which is an .obj file.
why are the clouds so much brighter than everything else, the contrast hurts my eyes
I had just implemented the 3d volumetric clouds into the sky, they move over the ocean realistically and appear randomly, they move far away and function realistically, I'm going to improve their shapes and I had not implemented the lighting or shading into them yet, the day and night functions not so well yet.
so how do we access the groupchats

So with group chat, do all users need the same tier of GPT?
they say somethings out then u just cant access it
thats a good question
Like what is everyone has the free, but Fred has the paid?
i wonder if its just dumbed down for everyone
Hmmm
is there still limits for free users?
To my knowledge, yes
if so, couldnt u just have a groupchat with a friend and then boom no limits
unless it has limits and then becomes essentially imessage after a bit lmao
When are group chats coming out
Alright, gota say the groups chat thing is a pretty good idea.
^
Man, I really can’t wait for December’s adult mode… I hit another filter block and it’s getting frustrating. Ai should be a tool for me to use however I see fit. I shouldn't have to fight the damn thing to roleplay scenes like this.
Just use grok
Literally destroyed my battle scene man
what is this ?
What adult mode are you talking about?
Honestly I'm tempted.
is adult mode going to require ID verification? Did they mention anything like that
On December, they are going to lift filters for verified adults so we can write or roleplay battle scenes and erotica to some degree. Hopefully it will fix the issues and frustrations I've been getting.
Wow, that's not even that bad. 😆
I've had it graphically describe killing enemies during D&D sessions.
Definitely if your state requires it
Its really great if u want uncensored stuff and use speak mode its way more uncensored and grok is actually might be better that chatgpt in some cases and its research feature is better than gpt imo
Yes.
it doesn't, but will open ai?
I live in one of those hellhole states so idc either way
You get frustrated because chatgpt is not roleplaying with you?
uhh how can I start a group chat? I'm in USA and have pro subscription
the Try it out in chatgpt button doesn't work
sucha pita i hate ID verification lol
Same i guess they haven’t published it out yet
They're not basing it on state requirements from what I've seen. It's across the board.
yeah they haven't
how do i make a group chat
Yeah I tried a business account and a free account on both android beta version and on web app, it's not fkin there
Dude, there was a time where my bard character's super power is to play music and force people to dance and ChatGPT' said that it won't do it because it's unconsensual.
I had to argue with it and tell it that it's the point
based
It's a freaking super power bro
Damn even gemini doesn’t censor that stuff
Grok does do a lot of adult stuff but it can also do like, mostly everything if you want. I have had it say crazy things to me unprompted and had to tone it down lol.
guys how do u make a group chat
It’s not out yet
Dont be a kangaroo
I cant see the concept behind group chats though
The new "stealth" grok model, Sherlock, has like no rules whatsoever
You just ask it to write some really extreme and heinous stuff and it won't ask a singe question
no more boogie bombs in fortnite, its nonconsetual
I hate xai models in general
Grok in general is good as if not better than gpt
I haven't seen a single thing that I personally use llms for that grok isn't an embarrassment at
To each their own ig
Are we using the same grok?
It’s really at good research
How do I use grupo chats?
Yeah but likely not the same tasks or subject matter
Man I just hate a tool that argues with you instead of doing it's damn job
If u want good results i reccomend use “expert” mode of grok
Dont use grok 4.1 its not as good as expert
Is expert mode exclusive to the web app or is it on the api
They started to rollout it might now be visible yet. Try log off and log back time to time
Wdym by api? The mobile app?
Yeah, Grok was weird, too geared towards companionship. I didn't really like it. for creative writing purposes, it seems more geared towards short form titilation, and self insert fantasy, which isn't what i'm looking for.
I mean how you use models in anything that isn't the consumer web apps like chatgpt or twitter
idk about that
Grok and Gpt is the best consumer llm rn
When will be the grp chats out?
What is expert mode
Its in grok
Oh ok
idk
Started to rolling out
If it was anything else I would think you click it and it pops open a menu where you can change token limits, tools, temperature, top k
But it's Twitter ai so it's likely just a "make it smarter" button
It just needs long term memory and I would be happy. That or increasing the files for a project instead of 10
Yeah it needs better memory or something like projects/something to more easily switch between different modes (storytelling vs. Meta story discussion)
Grok doesn't switch very well.
Chatgpt active monthly users bout to double in december
Yup…. Like I don’t use it for video or image just for story telling which it does very well.
Or lose more, we don’t know what the limits are they been incredibly quiet on stuff