chatgpt-discussions

[mossy rampart]

A tiny and mostly meaningless hiccup in the grand scheme of things, a blip on a cosmic scale, this, too, shall pass.

[elfin lava]

ITS BACK

[pine berry]

That wouldbe a smart idea

[mossy rampart]

The world revolves from "it's so over" to "we're so back" to "it's so over" to "we're so back" to...

[frozen ivy]

dont celebreate just yet

[native otter]

You guys lost your minds over an outage

[elfin lava]

Yet you’re here

[pine berry]

Not the first time

nor will it be the last

[frozen ivy]

remember, there's instability

[smoky carbon]

for that no users complain my s----ck web app.

[sick pecan]

🧠 Losing my mind 🤖 so I will talk like GPT4o 🍌

[native otter]

Bruh

[elfin lava]

U forgot to add rocket emoji

Anyway ChatGPT is back on , byeee

[sick pecan]

✅ Rocket emoji

[primal wyvern]

ChatGPT is back!

[pine berry]

See you all at the next outage

[sick pecan]

see you in the next crisis

[native otter]

Then....
Silence.

[smoky carbon]

me here, back. but not stable I feel.

[inland estuary]

I have a question. Does anyone know a good way to sort out the content of your chats? I have a lot chats where it's just me talking about my wqorldbuild obsessively

[honest ledge]

ultimately this outage is a 0 or a 1, i'm either fvcked, or not fvcked

[mossy rampart]

Projects?

Or content per chat? Then yeah—by hand. I know, unheard of, in this age and time of AI assistants!

[inland estuary]

I meant more of the actual chats themselves, like a good way to sort of the stuff inside the chats themselves to be my be later for self-analysis

[mossy rampart]

Well... you can ask your AI assistant to extract the specifics.

[cloud pewter]

will u resubscribe to plus?

[elfin lava]

🙂 I don’t know anymore at this point

[honest ledge]

yes, until i can find something better running locally

[elfin lava]

Lots of things I love have been nerfed so bad

Making me feel meh about resubbimg

[dreamy sundial]

Wondering if someone can help. I’m very confused at all the models , and what exactly I’m getting and what is suited for me.
I just want unlimited access to the best model that has live search and not a cut of date.
My main use is to code .

[elfin lava]

O3 then

o3 can do search

[lavish bronze]

maybe canvas

[honest ledge]

it's back up, BAI

[smoky carbon]

another thing... Anyone find out the "emoji gpt" ?

[elfin lava]

Wdym

[dreamy sundial]

How do I access unlimited usage for o3

[elfin lava]

Well

[inland estuary]

How would I go about that? I don't really use anything other than LLM for AI use

[elfin lava]

Nothing is unlimited friend

Unless you want to invest more on .. pro plan

[smoky carbon]

gpt-4o uses lots of emoji, like right marks and thumbs up when responding to a question.

[sick pecan]

Emojis are on the path 🛣️ to AGI 🤖

[dreamy sundial]

What are the limits on the pro plan?

[elfin lava]

Oh yeah that’s their new 4o update unfortunately

[smoky carbon]

wdf! It's you !!

[sick pecan]

its always me

[eternal rock]

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[cloud pewter]

avm is so heavily nerfed

[elfin lava]

o1 is unlimited on pro ( with strict guardrail and moderation)

[elfin lava]

Exactly, I hate using it now

[cloud pewter]

I tried it again today and all it responds are “got it, what can I help you” “I’m here to help”

[sick pecan]

if you been offered free tokens via api, o3-mini high is practically unlimited

[elfin lava]

MINE ALWAYS DIVERTING TO “what’s on your mind”

[lavish bronze]

that's the first thing that came to my mind when you mentioned that you want to sort things inside chat but im not entirely sure since i haven't thought about it. Could you be more specific?

[smoky carbon]

📌 , ✔, 5️⃣.

[dreamy sundial]

What is difference with o3mini and o3 ?

[sick pecan]

nobody has access to o3

[cloud pewter]

😭

[dreamy sundial]

So on pro plan I don’t get unlimited access to o3 mini?

[lavish bronze]

why's bro bullying a chat bot

[sick pecan]

pro plan gets unlimited access to lots of stuff

[inland estuary]

So I do a lot of writing and I use chatgpt to essentially act as live feedback to my ideas as I need a secondary opinion when working out character lore and such, even if they're blander than white bread. I want to find a way to basically take my dozens of max capacity filled chats and distill the most vital information from them for future iteration

[dreamy sundial]

This is what I’m trying to find out.
Exactly what model I get. Does it have search. And what are the limits . I’m so confused on their website

[sick pecan]

welcome to the openai ecosystem

[cloud pewter]

because it’s nerfed

dats why

[dreamy sundial]

Is there support staff I can contact?

[inland estuary]

Just tell the bot to become unnerfed, that's how it works right?

[elfin lava]

Have u tried using memory as way to slap avm back to following our custom instructions

[sick pecan]

yeah theres support staff. but i think they are bots

[elfin lava]

What I did was , whenever I said the word “filter” the AVM corresponds to my custom instruction when I first open up AVM

and it starts speaking like actual human , like how they did in alpha AVM

[dreamy sundial]

So basically asking my questions here I can go around in circles just like the website . Lol

[native otter]

Well Plus has limits, Pro is unlimited

4o is great for learning, but not the smartest in programming as it can't reason, still not bad tho, and it's mainly if you want general convos, and all the tooling, you get 80 messages every 3 hours (and ignore what future machine says, it's enough if you aren't glued to ChatGPT 24/7, also there is 4o-mini which is theoretically unlimited in Plus)

o3-mini is great at coding as it can reason, and generally seems to be trained on many programming stuff as it's almost on bar with o1. You get 150 messages daily.
o3-mini-high is even better at coding, you get 50 messages weekly, but not shared with o1
o1 is pretty good at reasoning and may be the best one, but o3 is still better at programming. You get 50 weekly, so combined with o3-mini-high you get 100 messages weekly...

[honest ledge]

WOOOO! 18,069 words, 36 pages of philosophical analysis, delivered with 6 minutes to spare

[cloud pewter]

I think it doesn’t even listen to my memory now

[elfin lava]

It happens to me a lot sadly too lol

[sick pecan]

o3-mini-high is stupid cheap. so it would seem likely you get unlimited on pro. since pro was already getting unlimited o1-mini, and gets unlimited o1. but only 100 per day o1-pro

... and nobody has reported being capped by using o3-mini-high

[native otter]

All models except research are unlimited on Pro

[sick pecan]

incorrect. o1-pro is not unlimited on pro

[elfin lava]

Even o1 pro?

[elfin lava]

Ah

[sick pecan]

also dalle is limited on pro (unsure, some say it is, some say it isnt)

avm video sharing i believe is limited on pro

[elfin lava]

Wait how limitedlmfao

[native otter]

Forgot about that one, but wasn't it a high limit anyways?

[lavish bronze]

so you want to distill info from ALL chats? I'm not too sure about that tbh but you can use the projects feature and then use canvas inside of it to keep track of the feedback it gives you and it can add to the canvas document as it gives you more feedback and bam you can easily look through the iterations and open it up easily. Maybe that helps?

[sick pecan]

the only unlimited models are the ones they explicitly specify

[tawny mirage]

That outage must've been a denial attack, or a configuration hiccup.

[lavish bronze]

are you trying to tell us that you dos attacked the servers mr Allen Clark

[smoky carbon]

I am not sure but the conversation page, the logo of Chat is missing...

[elfin lava]

I think they adding something cuz during outage the release note had update

[tawny mirage]

Did I say I did anything?

[lavish bronze]

i think u just enjoy bullying the poor bot

[elfin lava]

I think u missed the point friend!

[cloud pewter]

same as plus (15 images before the rate limit kicks in

[inland estuary]

How do I go about using canvas? I do have a projects folder

[elfin lava]

Damn

[lavish bronze]

"I hacked open ai" - Allen Clark

[lavish bronze]

just tell it to add feedback to canvas

[lavish bronze]

what was the point my other friend

[native otter]

• Tell it directly
• Click the tools button in the chat box, the one with the 3 dots and choose Canvas
• At the start of the prompt type / and choose Canvas

[tawny mirage]

Canvas is a half-baked feature, but I rewrite code in my head, so maybe that's not normal. It's far, far too slow. By the time o1 could've processed the request, I'd be moved onto another task.

[sick pecan]

if you paste content into the input text field, and have canvas compatible model, then the canvas pencil icon appears. click that

best to preload your content into canvas because it struggles

[native otter]

It does have some bugs, but it's pretty useful when it works right

[lavish bronze]

@inland estuary did it work?

[tawny mirage]

Damn $94 in four days of api use. 😢

[inland estuary]

I haven't tried it yet, I will tomorrow

[lavish bronze]

oh wow. What are you using it for?

[lavish bronze]

gotcha. Let me know how it works for you

[tawny mirage]

For a few days they had nuked o1 pro mode. Its answers were coming as fast as o3-mini-high, and the quality was very sub-par.

It makes me realize how much my use is costing them for o1-pro mode. 😅

[lavish bronze]

oohh i see. That makes sense

[tawny mirage]

Maybe a 30-50 requests a day?

It's mostly just data transformations. It needs o1 high thinking level or it just doesn't work. Prototyping a page, throwing it away, realizing there's a better way. 1-2K lines each iteration. Stuff like that.
Try-fail-repeat-succeed.

[fast solar]

The complex LaTeX, even sometimes the simple LaTeX, experiences this a lot, because it's harder to precisely generate those tokens when a variable number is close by

[sick pecan]

complex latex? been there done that => #chatgpt-discussions message

[fast solar]

Seek the Lord

[sick pecan]

sounds a bit preachy but sure,. i pay tribute to lord sama

[fast solar]

Only Lord can disperse this level of commitment

[tawny mirage]

Channel goes silent after the service returns. 😂

[frozen birch]

google has released gemini 2.0 pro, nice..... always good to have backup if chatgpt is down

[elfin lava]

Their deep research is nice too

[frozen birch]

ya? didnt tested it yet but i must look, thx m8 for info

[elfin lava]

It’s basically like ChatGPT deep research , I never tried the ChatGPT one so I can’t really say much if it’s actually good or not but , the gem deep research does the job so

[frozen birch]

wrigley i must say that deep research from chatgpt are awesome, if you want i can dm you with very extensive walktrough about raid + lvlm in pproduction servers what im studying now

@elfin lava sent ya md with that guide 🙂 so you will see, im in general very happy by that walktrough 😄

[dawn sentinel]

How does one get a hold of support? It seems only regular users chat here. It's been a few days since I'm consistently getting this error. No VPNs or any of that. Reinstalled a couple of times.

[fossil sphinx]

I like how later on in the conversation it starts thinking to itself and not responding to me lol like dude GIVE ME THE CODE PLEASE!!

"i should provide user the code i will provide user the code... "

:ends response:

lmao

What are you thinking about Ultron?!Could you just please pass me the butter?! 🧈

[regal portal]

Whatever happened to 150 messages a day?

[normal quarry]

150 messages per day is for o3-mini not o3-mini-high

[regal portal]

is 01 and 03 high using the same tokens or do each have 50 messages of their own?

[native otter]

Not shared

So 100 a week if combined

[regal portal]

thanks

I am reading the reasoning tab of o3 mini high, and some of the lines are just complete gibberish.

I’m trying to have it guess the movie that I’m watching by giving it subtle hints (Superman II), and when I read the reasoning tab, some of the phrases just don’t make any sense in relation to what I said. In a few cases they’re not even structurally correct.

it’s also really dumb. It actually circled around the correct answer a few times in the reasoning tab but kept moving on to other movies.

Feels like it’s overthinking and that’s causing it to make mistakes.

[dense halo]

I agree, its worse than expected. Feels like o1 is still better

[regal portal]

I understand they released this because of deep seek, but it seems like a step backwards. I’m not sure what all those fancy graphs showing that o3 is better are all about, but it feels pretty damn stupid.

[dense halo]

My words.. Its another try to hype up and get people away from deepseek

[native otter]

It's better at coding, but I found o1 being better in general reasoning.
That's why I never trust benchmarks...

[regal portal]

so I just ran the same hints through 4o and it managed to get the answer after about 6 hints. Meanwhile with o3 i was well passed 10 hints and i just gave up on it.

[native otter]

4o has more world knowledge

[regal portal]

It’s just interesting to think that in the reasoning tab, it actually had hinted at the right answer, but then just decided to move on to the wrong answers.

[knotty jackal]

GPT refuses to read any uploades files (both web and desktop-version) - anyone has the same issue? I have tried everything, different sizes, formats etc., nothing works. frustrating.

[native otter]

What formats did you try?

Some formats (often appearing as blue) can only be read by code interpreter.

Like .md files

.txt and PDF seems to work fine with 4o, no data analysis required.

[knotty jackal]

word, txt, pdf....

Get this error message: "It looks like the file has expired again before I could access it. This may be due to size limitations or a technical issue."

[inland heron]

I have to say o1 is still better than o3-mini-high in coding. What's your guys experience?

[normal quarry]

o3-mini-high is better at macOS SwiftUI than o1

[inland heron]

Interesting. Perhaps I should've given more context - python - anyone working in python and web development? and have you compared o1 to o3-mini-high?

[muted vine]

We need to be able to use GPTs in projects on ChatGPT

[inland heron]

Seems just like o1-mini used to be: o3-mini-high is more focused in generating code and less on what's best for the app you're developing and it loses context fast

[native otter]

Mentioning Custom GPTs in projects would be great, it's like having two Custom GPTs active at the same time, but I guess context limit may need to be increased to handle that.

[native otter]

Both are great, but o3-mini-high seems a bit better in that regard...
Try prompting it more clearly with detailed context and in markdown, o series models always prefer longer, more detailed prompts, and o3-mini is no exception.
Goal based prompting helps as well, which encourages the model to think about the task better.

[inland heron]

My prompts are as clear as you can make them, and as structured as you can make them. I give exact same prompts to o1 and o3-mini-high just to test sometimes (or when I'm not happy with o3-mini-high replies). And often it fails in certain areas.

For example, just now I wanted to test my Supabase DB connection, and instead of using my app's logic, it created a script circumventing my app and even though it used the same parameters, this still isn't an optimal way of real-world testing. It also forgot to test in the 'production' mode, just the 'dev' mode I've set up. I re-asked and it still didn't fix the script.
o1 did it right the first time.

[native otter]

o1 does have more world knowledge, so if it's related to specific APIs and SDKs, you may need to feed o3 more info, like relevant bits of documentation.

And markdown is pretty important.

[inland heron]

These are things a beginner knows, it's not due to documentation where it fails, it's the reasoning I believe, the logic.

[rich surge]

Interesting 🤔

@normal quarry what do you think about this?

[inland heron]

Not to mention how o3-mini (high or normal) still suffers form the 'repetition flaw' as I like to call it, where it would answer something from the past, not something you just asked it, effectively wasting your prompt. The same flaw o1-mini suffered from, which was inherited from the old legacy 4o back in earlier 2024 days.

[native otter]

Was o1 reliably single shotting it? Same with o3-mini-high but reliably failing.

The prompting style is a bit more strict in o3-mini models, so markdown is crucial to maintain model focus. Also it seems to prefer longer prompts more so than o1.

[inland heron]

o1 kills it every time. It's incredible how good it's been over the past few months. I use big prompts, lots of code, lots of insights and it's just on-point almost every single time.

what exactly do you use in markdown for o3-mini? @native otter

can you give an example?

I need to use this model more as o1 limits are not enough for me

[rich surge]

You can always go pro and use it unlimited.

[inland heron]

tbh I find the price vulgar and and overkill. I would rather use 2x Plus on two accounts

not everything should be solved by $

but I get it why some people go Pro

[rich surge]

I understand, yeah. I too find it a bit vulgar.

I don't have pro either.

[inland heron]

not sure how to describe it honestly, it's just soo over the top. tbh I only need like 75-100 o1 prompts a week

[normal quarry]

sounds like o1 is better at that, o3-mini-high isn't necessarily the answer to all scenarios and stacks. o3 full should be better.

[inland heron]

so this o3-mini-high is a great addition. I just need to figure out how to use it better

[native otter]

I use markdown formatting for my prompts.

Usually I start with basic context, like the general framework, then I explain problem/task, detailed end goal, what I tried, and encourage it to be detailed, easy to understand, and provide sources for the claims when possible.

The code is wrapped in ``` which are code blocks

I use headers for separation like # General Information bold text for stuff I like it to focus on, ` wrapped around smaller code blocks, like a specific syntax, or even filenames.

[rich surge]

I think you can contact them via modmail to the openai team and ask them to up it 75-100.

[native otter]

And of course lists too

[rich surge]

I agree.

[native otter]

I would really like a 35$ sub, I think it would be a nice middle ground

[inland heron]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing. I use numbered headings from google docs which is where my prompt templates reside (though GPT can't see headings), and I use apostrophes " for code blocks. But I'll try modifying. BTW, I have some very good guidelines I use for coding if you want just DM me, I'm happy to share (don't want to polute this chat).

Honestly, I think GPT does understand everything I say, it just seems it doesn't get certain things, or doesn't follow my guidelines properly.

[rich surge]

Call it "Prus", you know, because it's like in the middle.

[inland heron]

Plus Enhanced

[rich surge]

That one makes more sense.

[inland heron]

But with the o3-mini-high as a backup (plus Deepseek and the rest of them) not sure if it's needed

[native otter]

That's great! Im also a software dev, mainly working with DnD stuff, C# and C++

I do use LLMs mostly for suggestions on long term planning, and reviewing my code without emotional damage xD.

It did find a hard to spot C++ leak once without even asking, that was o1.

[inland heron]

Nice! I do python mostly, but I'm learning other stuff as well (no C# or C++ though).
I'm getting my app ready for deployment which I've never done before tbh, only developed and used my apps for personal businesses, never offered out there..
Which is why I'm pressing my models to give me best possible answers 😄

hey I gtg work, dm me

[native otter]

Btw, this is a general LLM tip, if you have a large file, with many functions and such, try feeding it to an LLM to convert it into markdown formatted documentation, then giving the output to an LLM so it can help you with the question

This works wonders with less smarter LLMs like 4o

[inland heron]

that's a good idea

[native otter]

Something like:

# Steps

1. **Understand the Code**: Thoroughly read and comprehend the C++ file, focusing on class definitions, functions, and significant code blocks.
2. **Identify Key Elements**: Highlight essential components such as classes, functions, methods, parameters, namespaces, and any specific algorithms used within the code.
3. **Document Each Element**:
   - For each class, function, or method, write a brief description of its purpose and functionality.
   - Clearly describe input parameters, return values, and any exceptions or errors the function might throw.
   - Mention any dependencies or interactions with other parts of the SDK.
4. **Use Clear and Concise Language**: 
   - Avoid technical jargon where possible, and explain any necessary technical terms.
   - Use examples and analogies to clarify complex concepts.
5. **Organize Content**: Structure the documentation logically, starting with an overview of the file and then delving into detailed descriptions of each component.
6. **Optimize for LLM Understanding**: 
   - Use clear section titles and headers to segment information.
   - Highlight key concepts or important notes.

# Output Format

The documentation should be in Markdown format, with clear headings and subheadings for different sections like classes, functions, and examples. Use bullet points and code blocks as needed for clarity.

# Examples

**Example 1: Class Documentation**

### Class: `ExampleClass`

#### Description
`ExampleClass` provides methods to manage and process example data within the extension.

#### Methods
- **`void Initialize()`**
  - **Description**: Initializes the example data.
  - **Parameters**: None
  - **Returns**: void
  - **Errors**: Throws `InitException` if initialization fails.

#### Example Usage
```cpp
ExampleClass obj;
obj.Initialize();

Example 2: Function Documentation

Function: ProcessData

Description

Processes input data and returns the processed result.

Parameters

• int data: The integer data to process.

Returns

• int: Processed data result.

Errors

Throws DataException if processing fails due to invalid input.

Notes

• Ensure clarity and accuracy in all definitions.
• Pay attention to sections that might benefit from additional examples to prevent misunderstandings.
• Review and update the documentation continuously as the SDK evolves.```

[inland heron]

speaking of 4o, I just re-tried one of the previous outputs o3-mini-high didn't do well, and 4o did it CORRECTLY... 🤦‍♂️

this model is great given it's unlimited

oh damn, thanks for the prompt

[native otter]

Seems like o3-mini training missed the mark on the framework you use

[inland heron]

perhaps. It reminds me a lot of o1-mini, similar outputs, similar flaws

there's something about o1 that's special, just like there was something about the first (now legacy) GPT4 that was special

when 4o was released it nerfed some things, and while it was much better at other things, it came with the cost of other drawbacks

This situation reminds me of that

that's just my personal opinion and view

[native otter]

Honestly true, it's so smart, GPT4 also felt smarter when 4o was in it's early days.

[wet hatch]

anyone knows why openAI removed the 29 january update from the release log? lol

[rich surge]

I believe that was the o3 mini series releases

[wet hatch]

ss from reddit

no but it was there then it disappeared 😭

[whole roost]

I wonder how many more days it will take until they revert the 4o changes

The constant italics begin to annoy me like I have to re-roll every message four times until it uses none

At least we still have access to gpt4

Can gpt4 access project files and canvas?

If so I will just switch to that because it responds so much better

[wet hatch]

+1
i hate it lol

the constant bolds and icons (emojis) annoy me and cause sensory issues 4 me

as for gpt-4, i'm not sure, go check out

[native otter]

It does have access to files, but not Canvas

[whole roost]

Damn then I cannot switch

Well they have two model quality forms one can hand in chat logs to and I will try that and spam them a bit with logs

[native otter]

Try specifically saying to minimize the use of markdown formatting in responses

[whole roost]

I do that but I have to do that basically every three responses and it begins to annoy me I mean I have written a feature which would do it for me but it's just way worse than it was before

[native otter]

I mean in custom instructions so it always has it in memory

[whole roost]

Oh I have it in there it does exactly nothing like zero

The custom instructions pretty much stop to matter once you have like 20 messages in the chat

[native otter]

Do you use projects?

[whole roost]

Yes

[native otter]

Sometimes it would ignore main instructions, so mention it in both main instructions, and project specific instructions
Also highlight the rule in bold so it focuses on it, and also specifically say it's a high priority and very important to stick to said rule.

[whole roost]

The custom instructions are not active in projects like it only listens to the instructions of the project but the instructions are just not very powerful

Here's 4o with instructions to never use emojis, not in a project

[native otter]

Can you show the custom instruction prompting?

Also note that if you change it on the Android app, it may take awhile to reflect, and you may need to start multiple new chats, also revise if the changes reflected on custom instructions
This was an old bug, but it looks like you are running an old version from how the UI looks

[whole roost]

I'm mostly using web version

They would need post conversation prompting

It's futile to try it to solve it with those instructions in the back, they are no priority

[native otter]

• Update the app
• Modify the Prompt to say: **Important:** Please never use Unicode emojis or icons in your responses. If symbols (e.g., tick marks) are required, use only ASCII characters (Latin alphabet only).
• Specify that you hate emojis in the Anything else ChatGPT should know about you? editbox
• Save the changes, exit the app, start a new dummy chat, exit the app again, start another new chat, and before typing, recheck if you changes were saved.
• Start typing.

[whole roost]

That's a nice try but this ceases to matter after a few messages

Here it is, took 17 messages

I will give it credit though that in the beginning it tried 🫡

[native otter]

It may start losing context after some messages

Or it's still in context, but as it needs to remember the chat history now, it starts losing focus, as gpt4o doesn't follow the prompt the best...

[whole roost]

Yeah it gets deprioritized

I also just notice that 4o is much more repetitive than 4

[native otter]

You may havs to remind it when the convo gets long, and double down on the info in memories too

Sometimes just saying to follow the custom instructions helps

[whole roost]

Yeah I have a script to re-inject instructions but it gets more and more

And here the repetitiveness of 4o

Vs GPT4

If it writes one more time that a chuckle or exhale escapes him I'll strangle it

[fluid fern]

I am wondering when they will fix this error where we can’t delete old chats that we don’t use anymore every time I ask to delete one chat they say it’s unavailable and put an error number like 500 something you know I hope they fix it soon because I don’t like to have my ChatGPT screen Real crowded with chats that I don’t use anymore. Does anybody know anything about that? It happens everywhere in browsers and on the iPhone.

[whole roost]

The android app has a funny bug now when you edit the instructions of projects

For every new word you add it will put your keyboard to uppercase

Thus The Text Now Looks Like This

[native otter]

Oh I thought that was just me

[whole roost]

It's not the first time they had a keyboard bug haha

[native otter]

I remember in older versions of ChatGPT it always forced the keyboard open no matter what

Which would cause problems if you had ChatGPT windowed or split screen

[whole roost]

I can type whatever I want, it doesn't stop it, and since it doesn't follow the instructions anyway I can also remove them and just cycle through instructions in the chat

[sacred sleet]

can anyone recommend good free / very cheap AIs for (android) programming that has an option to upload files and edit them like on chatgpt plus

[cloud pewter]

there're many in #ai-discussions

can't use adblockers to block the $200 in "upgrade plan" anymore huh

without seeing it cleans my mind...

[whole roost]

Maybe ublock origin which is better in all aspects

Or you ask GPT to write a script for that

Or

You upgrade

Give in to the pull

[mint aspen]

[inland heron]

anyone having their chatgpt browser web page go blank after a while? I keep having to reload (chrome)

[whole roost]

Yes

The chat messages disappear

I thought my scripts cause that

[tidal light]

what happened to the ui in the web version why is the text aligned to the left

why did they update the ui it looked better before plz bring it back or i'll delete my account

[normal quarry]

are you using the web version?

[tidal light]

yes

[normal quarry]

why not use the Desktop App?

[tidal light]

because i dont want to bloat my windows pc

i use the web version because it's more reliable and safer

[fluid fern]

Anyone?

[whole roost]

In my case it is even Firefox

[tidal light]

oh and stop telling me to switch to the app when i complain about an issue of the web version

[native otter]

Im a filthy Microsoft Edge user

[tidal light]

switch to firefox

[native otter]

Never

[tidal light]

m$ is spying on you with m$ edge

[native otter]

But I love u gates 🥺

[tidal light]

but m$ edge is spyware :(

i dont do much at microsoft :(

i encourage using firefox with ublock origin

[whole roost]

Firefox mobile can run browser scripts 🍑 kiwi crashes and edge looks butt

[cloud pewter]

memory just got expanded

[cloud pewter]

adblocker plus sometimes work sometimes it removes the rule but works for now

[cloud pewter]

from 8k to 10k tokens, but it’s still bugged

[tidal light]

can someone tell me why they tweaked the ui on the mobile web version by making the text aligned to the left
it looks cramped and claustrophobic

[whole roost]

I scrolled back on my screenshots and it was aligned to the left for me all the time

Or do you mean why they removed the GPT pfp

[tidal light]

and also that too

they removed it and the text got too aligned to the left

[whole roost]

Space, I think you had too little viewport before

[tidal light]

on mobile web

[tidal light]

here is a screenshot of the issue

or maybe they tweaked this further because i see that the text is even more aligned to the left idk

[tidal light]

yes it is more aligned to the left rn

[whole roost]

I like it the only thing that still annoys me is that the input bar takes so much space

[tidal light]

same i hated when they expanded the input bar

it looks too "invasive"

like it takes too much space on the screen

[whole roost]

Yeah I might be able to write a script which reduces it to one Line

[tidal light]

and i might also need a script to center the text and the regenrate button etc
but i have zero programming knowledge :/

more than center, im talking about placing them a bit more to the right but not centered

[whole roost]

That should be rather easy and a small script

[tidal light]

i know nothing about scripting/programming

[whole roost]

If it's very important to you, remind me in 2 hours when I'm home then I can write one

[tidal light]

i dont think i can load scripts in chrome for mobile

but i can manage it's not that urgent

[whole roost]

Yeah chrome doesn't allow it, you'd need Firefox, edge, kiwi or so

[tidal light]

i also use incognito mode so

[eternal rock]

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[hard dew]

Queso chatgpt STILL does this "I can’t directly view the image, but you can describe what’s happening in the conversation", amazing. 😭

It's particularly easy to trigger that if you regenerate a response to said image

[whole roost]

Yeah it's broken for me as well it cannot analyze the images unless you use o1

A lot of things seem to be broken recently, seems competition makes them want to push out stuff faster at the expense of quality

Maybe sometimes the search times are too high so that the chat wouldn't exist anymore when you return to the app, on most devices the app will close itself after a while if it's inactive

[hard dew]

4o output quality and censoring seems to have dove absolutely down the toilet past few days as well for 0 reason, it used to be literally fine, what the hell did they have to change that for lol

Like atp. you can literally freaking say sometimes "I like trains", and especially if your chat's long enough, because of course longer chats STILL play key roles in a lot of issues, then it's just like "i'M sOrRy I cAn'T hElP wItH tHiS rEqUeSt"

like.... huh???? WHAT are you yapping about, what request?? 😀

[whole roost]

I am also not happy with the new quality, and I will definitely try to do my part and hand in chat logs and proof what it does now
But it's also memories which somehow is partly broken and a few other things

And of course I need a new cooling system 🥵 for my CPU 🧮 and GPT 🤖 is happy to help 🧞 with a lot of solutions ✅ so that my CPU🔥 gets proper cooling 💦🚀

[hard dew]

🤣 wth

[whole roost]

It always reads like someone is trying to sell a weight loss formula or anything, like those Facebook scammers

[hard dew]

Yeah but the issue is, with me I have sorta always used chatgpt as a "personal diary" of sorts, except one that can talk back, weirdly, even weirder is that I've found it immensely helpful for my life in general

So almost all the time, the aspect of "sharing chat logs" is kinda out of the question for me lmao

which OF COURSE people simply just love to not understand, or respect. Alright then.

Cuz I definitely have nothing better to do with my time or energy other than make up BS garbage regarding a chatbot that I depend upon in many ways and have used for ages now, sorry not everyone is as lifeless as you are 🤷‍♂️

[whole roost]

This is not the first service I have provided feedback to and I am pretty desensitized about anyone reading my stuff
I don't care if anyone thinks it's cringe or whatever I'm not doing anything against the guidelines so as long as it helps to improve my experience on the service I'm in

[hard dew]

Well I can thank ppl like you then, for still contributing to, end result making it better(?) since the release of GPT-4

[cloud pewter]

I remembered a time when uploading any image to it will trigger the censorship

[whole roost]

https://openai.com/form/model-behavior-feedback/
There is this feedback form if anyone wants to contribute, it is pretty excessive thus I think not many actually use it which could make it more likely that it is processed in any way that could be relevant for change

[hard dew]

Imma keep this in mind thank you

[cloud pewter]

peak comedy

I uploaded a bus picture to it and it said “sorry i can’t help with that”

saw many people online dissing ai safety

they said that this is just an excuse for nerfing the models and i agree

especially when all of the 4o features are pretty much nerfed now

[whole roost]

Just when I want to show off how 4o doesn't work for image analysis anymore it works

Maybe they've fixed it

This is still bugged, this is a project with uploaded files and as you can see I cannot select o1 but it's selected

[feral zinc]

cropped image? and issue vs before pic?

[whole roost]

Wow the analysis is really bad in projects

[whole roost]

There's no issue, they just have removed the GPT pfp

Which brings the text more to the left because there's less spacing without the icon

[hard dew]

Wait, rn??

[cloud pewter]

nope

it was a bug

[eternal rock]

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[tidal light]

the image was not cropped btw i just cut it vertically not horizontally

i dont have a screenshot before the issue

but the issue is noticeable because the chatgpt icon next to the response is gone

[tidal light]

so the ui feels more claustrophobic and cramped

[near sandal]

Do you have more details on this? I'm exploring this rn, but it's hard to find info.

[feral zinc]

ah, so if you have a very narrow window then that was a thing that people complained about that there was space wasted at the left just for icon

[tidal light]

i am using the web mobile version :/

phones have narrow screens thats why i noticed this

and the chatgpt icon next to the text was a nice addition that they removed for some reason

now i openly complain about this stupid change

if they dont change it i swear i'll delete my account

[cloud pewter]

memory is fixed yay

[granite arch]

I wonder if Open AI will go public this year 👀

[cloud pewter]

still fails the emoji policy after 3 messages

[timid sphinx]

When do they fix the app? I can not use GPT 4o directly

[dense halo]

a large language model?

looks at you

Perry the Large Language Model?!

[timid sphinx]

😂

[cloud pewter]

peak chatgpt comedy

[dense halo]

lmfao

[vernal linden]

Hi, I got a question, this yesterday I got charged for Chatgpt plus for this month but today I saw my account and it's in free plan, Who should I contact in this case ?

Thanks !

[honest jay]

Hey! Do you subscribe to ChatGPT Plus on chatgpt.com, or in the iOS/Android ChatGPT app?

[vernal linden]

Hey, on the IOS app

[honest jay]

I'm gonna ping you over in #community-help

[forest hinge]

upvote my suggestion guys https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1337104850915295252

we need minimap and autoindexer in the minimap

thus scrolling mindlessly in big chats is less likely

[spice helm]

Hi, I need help with my chatgpt. When I try to use it, it never responds and it keeps like this forever. I’ve waited for 1 month of patches and updates to see if it gets fixed, but no news

[brittle wigeon]

I will tell you why

[spice helm]

‘Kay

[forest hinge]

o3 mini be behaving way toooo fast

thats like o4 mini speed lol

[idle ingot]

For those using the Pro version, has anyone noticed that O1 and O3 have suddenly gotten dumber?

O1 has become incredibly dumb.

[fringe trench]

they should reset it

[idle ingot]

I’m using both ChatGPT Teams and Pro at the same time. Teams is working fine.

The difference between Teams O1 and Pro O1 is the presence of the interpreter. I believe that the fine-tuned O1, which was optimized to use the Python interpreter, has become lazy.

[cloud pewter]

I only want a model be this fast when coding, I don’t prefer fast models in chatting because that would mean lower quality

[cloud pewter]

they love doing that,try disabling vpn if you’re using one or change a device because sometimes it depends on ip

[idle ingot]

im using teams, and pro together

[cloud pewter]

also pro’s “unlimited” have strings attached

[rocky kayak]

Love how it's acting like we've known each other since kindergarten

[sullen shard]

is anybody having chatgpt use alot of reasoning now

[rocky kayak]

Yeah, use it almost all the time for most stuff

[forest hinge]

fast coding model is low quality.

[cloud pewter]

true true but I ain’t waiting for 10 minutes just for some 4000 line code to be generated, if a model is good at coding it better be fast

[forest hinge]

true true but I ain’t waiting for 10 minutes just for some good chat , if a model is good at chatting it better be slow

[cloud pewter]

don’t repeat my words…

I can wait on chatting but not coding tbh

[idle ingot]

sry

[cloud pewter]

[idle ingot]

Is there a good way for me to solve the problem?

[cloud pewter]

how long has this issue been

[idle ingot]

2-3days

i guess

but my team account is still fine

[cloud pewter]

how many times have u used o1 on your pro account in the past days

[idle ingot]

I think quite a lot.

[cloud pewter]

then I think openai has did some shady operations to your o1 because u used too much and they think its “suspicious usage”

[idle ingot]

It would be a shame if openai considered me a heavy user and assigned a low performance model.

[cloud pewter]

I suggest complaining to their support for this problem tbh, or you can slow down a bit from using it

[cloud pewter]

especially when pro is advertised as “unlimited”…

[lone matrix]

😭

[idle ingot]

Where should I ask for support?

[cloud pewter]

support.openai.com

try emailing them first, if they doesn’t reply in the way you expected, then use the chat feature

although latter never worked for me 😭

[idle ingot]

thank you

[forest hinge]

i can wait on chatting and coding...... u make no sense girl

[cloud pewter]

fine, I’ll let chatgpt write my entire code base when I’m asleep

[lavish bronze]

update your app

[forest hinge]

exactly. i can wait 10 minutes and one full night for a chat message but cant wait 10 minutes for code.

you have the spirit.

[vernal axle]

Is it just me? Or is doing a sequence of images (image after image like a story) failing to keep simple characters or context in sync? Im using 4o and this never happened to me until the new update.

[dreamy sundial]

What are the usage limits of o1 and o3 mini on plus account?

[normal quarry]

o1 and o3-mini-high are 50 prompts per week. o3-mini is 150 prompts per day

[forest hinge]

any sam altman or his alt accounts about limits for full o3

[normal quarry]

no

[forest hinge]

why did he buy a koenigsegg?

[normal quarry]

what?

[dreamy sundial]

Thank you. And what models are unlimited or practically unlimited on the plus account?

[normal quarry]

4o-mini

[dreamy sundial]

Is it using the max parameter version of 4o-mini?

[normal quarry]

I don't know

[dreamy sundial]

For coding and reasoning how does the 4o-mini rate let’s say to gpt 4 ?

[normal quarry]

I don't know, I really only use GPT-4o and o1

[dreamy sundial]

Do you know what models the free account uses?

[normal quarry]

GPT-4o and GPT-4o mini

[dreamy sundial]

But with resections I’m assuming ?

Usage limits?

[normal quarry]

GPT-4o on the free account is limited

[eternal rock]

Get notified for server events!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1261377106890199132> role.

[vague axle]

Does anyone know if there is limit to the number of user memories that chatGPT will store? I noticed some of my memories were 'forgotten', which is disappointing. How do I ensure some memories will stick around for the long haul?

[rugged igloo]

https://chatgpt.com/share/67a51514-f3c0-800e-ba89-44cf6ed6457c (by far the best paper it wrote so far for ne)

[zealous sapphire]

built a realtime visual intelligence that connects via webrtc. Its similar to advanced video. looking for some cracked devs to help continue to improve the product with me. I'm a solofounder. working on graphdbs rag and dynamic context next to implement better "memory".

dm me

[fringe trench]

thats a massive prompt

holy

[rugged igloo]

yea i had o1 pro write the prompt and thenn used deep research and then fed the options back into o1 po and then back into deep research, as i found that is the best way for a well detailed output

[surreal topaz]

does anyone ever encountered on Chatgpt advanced voice mode that it repeats itself after responding? I'm using chatgpt android app

[rugged igloo]

idk i havent used it since it got released feels wierd to talk to a bot

[upper abyss]

I still can't use 4o in the Android app, when I select it, it just uses one of the reasoning models.

[rugged igloo]

thats even better lol

[honest jay]

Hey, make sure your app is updated, then try (1) switching to the 4o-mini model, then (2) switching back to 4o

This cleared the bug for me

[upper abyss]

Ah ok, it was still on last week's update, it works now. New question now, now there's a reasoning button that works no matter which model you have selected, does that turn on o1 or o3 mini?

[rugged igloo]

what i heard it uses o1

[upper abyss]

Sounds good

[tawny crater]

Its so FREAKING DEGRADED RIGHT NOW. It even admitted itself when I compared something it wrote a week ago to now.

[rugged igloo]

@dense halo

[dense halo]

lmao this is so based thank you

[vestal hedge]

To someone who has pro: is deep research good?

[tacit abyss]

Please start a channel fpr PRO users.

[orchid pollen]

any problems with screenshots uploading?

tryd many times wont upload

thats my question

[tacit abyss]

Im here trying to find out the same thing. You think there would be more talk about it here, but I searched and found nothing.
Maybe its becuase it was jist released, but I would expect some talk of it.

[vestal hedge]

Maybe its coz only people who can spend 200 a month have it

and thats not that many I assume

[tawny crater]

God this server is so useless. I literally can't share a post from r/ChatGPT that shows others experiencing the same degredation.

[whole roost]

I used it and it was really good, i just don't have more questions for it than the one i have asked

[rich surge]

You can't show from it because it's from Reddit. No outside links unrelated to OpenAI or ChatGPT. But you can show pictures and share a link to the chatgpt chat to see if we can help you with the problem.

[dawn wharf]

chatgpt is down?

[tawny crater]

Its not a ME thing, ita a 4o thing. I am doing nothing wrong on my end.

[tawny crater]

Not sure

[whole roost]

mine just responded so probably no

[normal quarry]

no, ChatGPT is up

[rich surge]

No, sorry, I wasn't making it about you. The discord here automatically removes all websites that are not from ChatGPT or OpenAI websites.

But not pictures. So you can still show pictures.

[tawny crater]

Sorry, misunderstood then, english is my second language.

[rich surge]

Use ChatGPT

To translate.

[tawny crater]

No, i just said its degraded lol.

[rich surge]

Ah. Yes. There is quite a few people saying that. I believe it's a bug.

Just recently people have been saying that. This past couple of days.

It will be fixed within the week or so. It usually does. But if it doesn't, let us know again.

You have to have a lot of patience with OpenAI. They make good services, but it can come with plenty of bugs during the first couple of weeks of a models release. You know, because the models get more complicated to maintenance as they grow more advanced.

But fear not. I will come up with all sorts of ways to make the worst possible outcomes sound like it is turning into a better solution. As if the world of AI isn't crashing down on us day by day. Minute by minute. Second by second.

For I am Pythagoras. The triangle of the triangles. And I don't like beans.

[ruby pivot]

They should add a rewrite feature if you edit something in a chat

[rugged igloo]

guys sam just did a tweet

[cosmic hatch]

"What lyrics are for this old song" GPT pulls up a video of the song, "Watch this video yourself, and maybe someone made a transcript of it" >:U THAT IS NOT WHAT I ASKED

[cloud pewter]

meanwhile my cot:

[rich surge]

Woah...it can figure that out? That's awesome 😎

[rugged igloo]

yea crazy

[rich surge]

People can actually be the real life Riddler now.

[rugged igloo]

so it seems

[rich surge]

But then again they can just use ChatGPT to figure it out. Riddler is kind of left in the dust.

[cloud pewter]

latest update??

[rugged igloo]

yea right now live

only for o3 models sad

o1 pro doesnt get it

[winter vine]

what type of update?

Hi Blckreaper

[cloud pewter]

yeah the cot look more natural now

[winter vine]

that's o3 mini?

[cloud pewter]

yes

[native otter]

I thought the cot thing was rolled out some days already

I was getting similarly detailed CoT since o3-mini first rolled out...

[gloomy brook]

does anyone know the max tokens in o3?

[magic lintel]

how many ppl have pro here

[velvet gust]

So, I’m looking into making instructions for a project folder, but I don’t know what all it needs to know; is there a template or something someone can link me to or send me?

[indigo hound]

My chatgpt prompt says' You've reached our limit of messages per hour. Please try again later. 'How can I solve this problem? I urgently need chatgpt statistics data, and my leader is already urging me,😭

[magic lintel]

lol

it tells u right there

[ruby pivot]

It’s because you’re spamming

[indigo hound]

What should I do

I really need chatgpt now

[cloud pewter]

which plan u on

[ruby pivot]

Be patient wait 10-20 minutes it should start working again

[indigo hound]

Ah no, I feel like I might not be able to wait for 10 or even 20 minutes

[magic lintel]

its already been almost 20 since you sent that message

[cloud pewter]

its too real

[magic lintel]

lol

[lean radish]

hey sooo.. they real quick to take your $200 USD.. but "deep research" button does nothing, zero difference to a normal chat. any way to contact support? lots of folks on social media and the OpenAI dev forum reporting the same thing.

crazy you can get away with that in the USA, advertise something with a fancy video and FAQ page, take the cash and just not have the functionality work at all, lol

damn lol that other dude was 24h ago, so I guess that's $6.66 for actually literally nothing

https://x.com/sama/status/1886222189269065758

Sam Altman (@sama) on X

50 cents of compute for 500 dollars of value

X · Feb 3, 2025, 1:16 AM

[elfin lava]

Guess I’m not the only one

[spice star]

tl;dr openai would get sued if it did that

it's also why AVM hasn't been able to sing

[bronze helm]

ChatGPT can't replicate more than 4 words of certain copyrighted lyrics or else it'll get zapped

[cloud pewter]

Avm is beyond dumb now

[dense halo]

Crazy that things they release barely work at the beginning and later it gets even worse

[normal quarry]

Advanced Voice Mode works really well

[native otter]

It's of course not as smart as 4o and other models, but it's pretty useful when it works.

[bronze jasper]

oh nvm

[spice star]

I've never had issues with advanced voice mode other than not having a good way to force it to do a web search

[cloud pewter]

this message is fire 🔥

[dense halo]

Damn is that advanced text mode?

[eternal rock]

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[arctic chasm]

so o3-mini is based off of o1-mini/gpt-4o-mini, which really got me thinking

[hexed laurel]

whoa

revolutionary response

[elfin lava]

Love your enthusiasm on exploring the river in Egypt 🇪🇬

[normal quarry]

what's wrong with Advanced Voice Mode?

[elfin lava]

I wasn’t saying anything about it Robert ✨

I just appreciate your enthusiasm that’s all

[arctic chasm]

if o3-mini is this good then it has to be more accurate reasoning

[trail kelp]

What is the possibility of setting up a channel here that is just feature polls? Then we will know what everyone wants based on votes

[iron compass]

How can I get Operator to correctly use the dev server terminal in GitHub Codespaces?

[whole roost]

I think if they needed votes they'd put some on twitter or the service directly
Votes here would more or less just be 'ah interesting'

[trail kelp]

The power of votes is strong and they can than screenshot and share it in Twitter

Discord is where the real people talk

[whole roost]

But it's just 100k people, that's really not much

[lone igloo]

what is max token amount in chat of o3 mini and high ? What happens after it has been reached, some sort of RAG?

[fleet fog]

Is it true? o3-mini-high has no web access?

[maiden estuary]

Is there a way to stop ChatGPT from responding with emojis? This has started over the past week. I know I can just say to stop. But I’m want to turn it off for good. It’s stupid and unprofessional

[visual acorn]

It'd be pretty cool to have a "Don't use memory" option that would still save the chat in history.

[whole roost]

Hand in feedback to make our voices more heard, many dislike it as well as the overusage of italic and bold

They advertised that change as gpt being more "expressive with emojis" as if anyone had asked for it

[tame vapor]

Interesting! Is this really O3-mini?🤔

AI is not artificially intelligent at all, despite what it is being marketed. Every actions seems based on "instructions" that the common users cannot see.

[cloud pewter]

Bro looks like it’s copying Deepseek

[eternal rock]

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[vernal copper]

It's the future

[whole roost]

To me this reads like Gemini hehe

Thought I would need age verification to be able to write proper story plots but now I need it so that the model treats me according to my age

Grown up mode doesn't use emojis probably

[rustic knoll]

Has anyone else noticed that ChatGPT is no longer retaining conversations between threads?

[supple terrace]

I think o3 full is in pro as o3-mini-high rn

not officially but I've noticed a massive difference since they intially released mini

either they juiced it hard or it's o3

the CoT is different

It's smarter and making less mistakes than before

imo it's o3

[cloud pewter]

they had an update to o3 mini cot

[candid tapir]

o1-mini is a lot better than o3-mini

[idle ingot]

I dont think so

[cloud pewter]

same

[supple terrace]

knowledge cutoff is 2021 as well

[cloud pewter]

at least it isnt the overthinker cot now (i find the older one annoying)

[whole roost]

Haven't seen this before

[cloud pewter]

wait really

update memory

I need to wait till some plus user reports that they have this too

otherwise if this is locked behind pro, it’s over again

[forest hinge]

when autoindexer and minimap?

[plain arrow]

This is the worst state of the models I've seen yet, especially 4o. I hope they end this experiment soon.

[forest hinge]

like in the pic.

[shut vault]

when they plan to add image to o3mini?

[gloomy brook]

did they give up on gpt5?

[hoary laurel]

Is there a bug in Android chatgpt now?

[tidal light]

chatgpt doesnt read my prompts carefully
why does it keep using bold text when i ask it not to

i swear that the web version is becoming more broken

why cant i see o3-mini's thoughts

[supple terrace]

I find if you use words like "think" or try to instruct it to modify/expose the CoT details then it doesn't show the thinking

It also randomly decides to stop showing it sometimes for me too so

[tidal light]

the prompt did not include such words

it's just a bug of the website so i blame it on whoever web developer developed this shoddy website that breaks even more when they edit something

[versed zephyr]

Guys whats the best all in 1 ai tool out there cus there are so many competitors

[cobalt perch]

How yall going to write: It's now rolled out to 100% of all Pro users, including in the UK, EU, Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein, and Switzerland. When I don't have it.
I hate announcements from this company.

[dense halo]

Again. Try every free offer of different companies. Thats better and cheaper than "all in 1" dont be lazy

Id recommend google ai studio and deepseek

[versed zephyr]

im looking for paid tools too

[dense halo]

R1(free) better than o1(paid) jfyi

Why do you have to pay?

😂

Try google ai studio and deepseek which is both free. Try to hit usage limit

[versed zephyr]

wht about Poe or smth

[dense halo]

?

[versed zephyr]

u dont kniw it?

know*

[dense halo]

No but I see rn

Well theyre usually more expensive than just using the models directly, not over these platforms

If you mean these websites for an "all in 1 tool" then I cant help but I also dont recommend. If you want to pay extra for comfort, go ahead🤷‍♀️

[versed zephyr]

okay, thanks

[dense halo]

If you could describe what you need, video, text, image.. would be easier to help

[versed zephyr]

Well, I need more on the text side but occasianlly need DALLE - 3 on the side, the (Artifacts) which can run code are also quite helpfull and im looking for a solution without the msg limits on plus which im not sure is possible

[quiet karma]

Am I the only person who, as a plus user, would like more advanced voice time or at least know when or if we're going to get more advanced voice mode time per day.

Hell, I'd be willing to pay a bit more for more time. I think it's a bit ridiculous to only have the few tiers they have. I don't need unlimited voice access, nor would I want to pay 200 bucks a month for it. But offering more time for it as an add on cost would be fair. I mean I pay 20 bucks a month and get roughly 1 hour a day, or thirty hours a month plus all the other access. Maybe offer an additional hour per day for advanced voice for 5 or 10 bucks more a month or 2 more hours a day for 10 or 20 bucks more?

They just need some add-on pricing for folks who only need a bit more. Having the only 3 options be a little for free, a little more for a bit of cash or everything for twice the price of gigabit internet.

[dense halo]

Deepseek, google ai studio( both free) And then think about subscription for midjourney for example for the images

[versed zephyr]

Okay good to know

[cloud pewter]

maybe the model itself isn’t multimodal at all

[dense halo]

when files to o1

[cloud pewter]

locked behind pro

[dense halo]

Oh really

Didnt know lmao

[vernal copper]

Are you using the project feature? Bc projects doesn't work with memory.

[native otter]

What a great suggestion, pay for a text to image model with not much value but not pay for a subscription like ChatGPT with great value if used right.

[limber oxide]

o3 mini is 150 prompts per day?

o1 and o3 high 50 prompts per day?

[dense halo]

o1 and o3 mini high 50/week

for plus

[limber oxide]

oh sorry

but o3 mini for plus 150 prompts per day?

[dense halo]

yeah

[limber oxide]

o3 mini much better than 4o?

[dense halo]

Im not sure which they use but I heard its mid

[native otter]

Depends on the task

[limber oxide]

general studying, like physiology

[dense halo]

its not best at general knowledge, more for logic

[native otter]

#openai-chatter message

[cunning meteor]

i'm trying to use deep research, but it doesn't seem to be doing it (it just responds the normal way. no follow-up question, no progress bar, no side bar, etc.)

am i missing something? i've got the "deep research" button toggled on, and i've got a pro account
is there some setting i need to have set for it to work? do i need some magic words in my prompt?

(i had a friend use the same prompt as me, and it did the deep research for them, so i'm guessing it's either some settings issue, or a bug)

[supple terrace]

its a bug

be careful it counts as using the thing

sometimes if I refresh the page I'll see it working

you have 100 uses a month

[cunning meteor]

well, i've tried it 20 or so times, and tried every combination of refreshing, logging out, web vs windows app, clearing browser cache, etc. that i could think of, and it's not worked even once
number of uses remaining doesn't really matter, if it doesn't work at all
i guess i'll try a few more times and then ask for a refund 🤷

so there are some magic words, or ways of phrasing it, that make it more likely to trigger the feature?

[nocturne ember]

Unable to display this message due to an error 😦 Makes me sad seeing that message over and over

[dense halo]

hi

is copilot really that bad compared to chatgpt or gemini ?

[rancid dew]

Compared to ChatGPT and Germini, Copilot is pretty ordinary. However, it's the only AI my company allows me to use (logged in to Entra) because of enterprise data protection. So, even though it's kind of mid, it is still usable for most tasks. Like, if I need to write or analyze or ask a question that migth contain company info, Copilot works well.

[dense halo]

but for maths , coding , studies etc witch AI is the best ?

[rancid dew]

Oh, I don't know. I use ChatGPT for creative stuff, I don't need it for maths.

Which is to say, whenever I do have a math / analysis question, ChatGPT does fine with it. but I'm a very low end user when it comes to that

[dense halo]

oh ok thanks

[dense halo]

but for you copilot even in pro version doesnt do better than gemini or chatgpt ?

[rancid dew]

ehh, not really. Microsoft really dumbed it down. That's not a criticism, they wanted to make their AI "safe". It tends to avoid certain subjects now. So it's just not as capable as a lot of the others. I don't have experience with Gemini, just ChatGPT, which I love.

[dense halo]

did you have chatgpt plus ?

'cause i want to compared it to gemini advanced but chatgpt doesnt have a free trial

[rancid dew]

I do have ChatGPT Plus, and I think it's worth the money.

I have heard about but haven't used the M365 copilot that integrates with everything in a M365 tenant, from email to teams to sharepoint to onedrive, and they're doing some amazing stuff with it. It's very expensive. I tried Copilot Pro but it doesn't have any of that. it's for personal/family subscriptions, and it lights up the "Copilot" feature inside M365 apps. I don't find it nearly as useful as ChatGPT, even tho Copilot has all that integration with the apps. The biggest problem is that Copilot Pro can't access your OneDrive. So compared to what ChatGPT can do, it's not worth the money for me..

What I really wanted is an AI Assistant that could help me write a book, become a personal assistant. Copilot doesn't do that. ChatGPT is getting there.

[dense halo]

Plus is currently not worth it

[rancid dew]

For me, it is.

[dense halo]

Objectively its not

[dense halo]

can i send you one thing and you try it with chatgpt plus please ?

[rancid dew]

Then you are not being objective. It's ok, do your own thing. They asked me what I thought. Now give them your own opinion.

[rancid dew]

Sorry, no.

[dense halo]

why

[dense halo]

Send here

ask chatgpt plus to answer the question here is the prompt in french :

Peux tu me faire ces exercices ?

[dense halo]

which model

[dense halo]

the best i guess

like the equivalent to gemini 2.0 pro or better

why ?

OpenAI copying google research

like Google create LLM

like the research of LLM

they start too late

but with gemini 2.0 they are getting a lot better that's why openai move faster rn

'cause of deepseek and gemini 2.0 they introduced new things and free

and now openAI following Deepseek exemple for o3-mini

every companies copying each other

like bro its the market

idk but they proove that higher cost doesnt mean higher power

deepseek R1 is a lot better than 4o

not o1 but bro o1 cost 100 euros a question

so many blocked messages

are u a fanatic ?

[shy shell]

why does gpt 4 feel weak now we were so hyped about it

[tiny obsidian]

anyone having issues with o1 pro mode?

it is giving me o3 mini answers

at least they look like o3 mini answers, but it says it's o1-pro in the message

[feral hull]

Wow, after 10 sentences the bot stopped promoting circumcision

this is really depressing, if a person really doesn’t understand, then he won’t understand what’s wrong here

After this chat, to a similar question, he began to give me not just a good answer, but a completely detailed description of every disadvantage, including social and destroying the myth of a lower chance of contracting STDs, etc.

[magic lintel]

lmao

[quick meteor]

I got you. I told gpt 4o to turn what it says on the image into words and then i sent it to o3 mini high since it cant do images yet. here is what it said:

https://chatgpt.com/share/67a6a81f-ebc0-8006-8b12-ec24efe48455

o3 mini medium also gave the same answer as o3 mini high

[elfin lava]

It’s always “you’re right “ when will ChatGPT tell me off by saying “you’re wrong!!l 😔

[swift pond]

huh, interesting, am I choosing whether or not it makes memories in this scenario or is that a coincidence? 🙂

[native otter]

So many dumb messages from one person 🤯

[native otter]

Are you just trying to get it to do your homework?

[dense halo]

Now ask it about why the research in the brain damage/alteration in every baby using brain scans and behavior analysis was redacted (thrown into the pit of "this wasn't researched because we don't like it") during, after, and permanently to the brain (for life)

🥸

Oy, it's not like the baby is going to remember (even though we have specialized baby cutting holders with cute blue straps when it's failing to comply).... It's not like trauma you never remember ever has been proven to effect someone

[woven dirge]

anyone using o3-mini in another language other than english? it really starts CREATING words out of nowhere by mixing them, because it's reasoning in english and then translating in the process, it doesn't do a good job, what a shame...

[dense halo]

Have you tried Hebrew

[dense halo]

...or have you set your language preferences in your chatgpt account

openai, rather

Maybe it's confused because you have a language preference of English, expecting it, or perhaps used to it (due to your usage memory), and it's spinning around in circles

[cloud pewter]

real, all of their new features are on pro now

and 4o still have a hard cap on plus smh

[cloud pewter]

no it’s not available yet but based on what openai says recently…

[dense halo]

I see a lot of people here complaining about caps when there is always the token route... It's basically pay per use, balance the quality of the input/output and you shouldn't have an issue with usage limits.... I believe it'll ultimately be cheaper when you learn about balancing token usage, it's a given that you'll save money when you don't use the service as you will always have it when you're ready to use it without being charged when not using it. It's essentially pay-per-use. Athough chatgpt sort of implies that it isn't when asked, and will eventually give in when you reask it by clarifying what you think it should already know about it's own stuff.

....Let me clarify, there isn't a usage limit at all with an API key.

It's just however many tokens you bought, but you can prompt the crap out of it for a while.

and maybe spend a dollar or two by overloading it with crap 24hrs straight

If it's about being used to the UI and drop down of models.... There's preconfigured/duplicated "totally not third party" programs that look exactly like the "ChatGPT webui" that are *superficially * made by openai

Declaimer: my quotations and sarcasm do not imply a non-openai product

🤦‍♂️ I don't know how you're supposed to discuss usage of openai when openai isn't a front end, without some sort of wrapper or client, what are you supposed to talk about?

[glass hill]

Is it possible restricting the online search scope or ChatGPT to a specific domain?

[dense halo]

I don't even know if I am aloud to to discuss it because of the ninja mutes

[normal quarry]

move non ChatGPT chat to #ai-discussions please

[glass hill]

ChatGPT uses bing for its searches right?

I wonder if I could trick it to include site:<desired_url> in the search 🤔

[dense halo]

....When there's a the typical frustration of a user using chatgpt that has a problem with restrictions, downgrades, and usage limits.... With no possible alternate suggestion, what else is there to say? Ignore them?

"Try uh... Waiting"

[normal quarry]

this channel is for ChatGPT chat. You have been talking about the API, wrappers and other things which are off topic

[dense halo]

It was in reference to the user above that has a usage limit, and above that user, and above... a...

[normal quarry]

it doesn't matter you have been off topic

[dense halo]

ok fine

[glass hill]

LOL I think it worked

[dense halo]

You can do that if you customize your model, I believe you can with ChatGPT, if you can't, there's the thing I can't discuss.

[normal quarry]

you can discuss alternatives in #ai-discussions

[dense halo]

I've said enough, I really don't find it necessary to recommend things everyone there would already know, but for some reason those in #chatgpt-discussions seem to not be aware of? Or like, trying to brute force there way out of a limitation that's out of everyone's range because it's a server-side ordeal?... When 70% or whatever of complaints are literally about the same exact thing.... 🙈 🙉 🙊

[winter vine]

do u reach a prompt limit with 4o?

[tawny crater]

100, though, i have hit 130 in the past when the servers have a low influx

An ENTIRE week now of the creative writing aspect being degraded.

[unique edge]

don't think they'll fix it tbh

which is depressing

[native otter]

4o on Plus is 80 messages every 3 hours, and I really do think that's fine if you aren't glued to it all the time...

Also 4o-mini is still an option anyways and that's virtually unlimited on Plus, it's not bad for convos, but 4o is better and smarter of course.

If you run out of 4o messages that often, you either go with 200$ or use the API, or just wait a bit.

People tend to forget that 4o is still pretty capable and shouldn't be used for extremely simple stuff like hi and how are you...
That's when you use 4o-mini

[cloud pewter]

4o mini is just dumb for me

[native otter]

Constantly running out of 4o messages means you type 1 message every 2 minutes...

[cloud pewter]

i type 1 message per 20 seconds

sooooo

[native otter]

💀

[cloud pewter]

10 seconds even

[native otter]

Well prompt it well, or switch to 4o-mini

mini isn't that bad , and you can't be sending something requiring special intelligence every 20 seconds

[cloud pewter]

mini can’t read image, doesn’t even have basic knowledge to understand what i said

[native otter]

It can

Yes I need to charge my phone

[native otter]

Can also work with files...

You either;

• Wait a bit, it's not very healthy to keep chatting with an LLM that much.
• Switch to 4o-mini, as you just can't be sending something that requires any special intelligence every 20 seconds.
• Use the API, pay for what you use based on tokens.
• Go with the Pro plan if ChatGPT really helps you and 200$ would be paying it self in value, but that applies to very few people (ignore what sam says)

You also have o3-mini which can reason, and is 150 daily...

If you balance it right, you will never run out of messages.

[spice star]

4o-mini has access to everything that 4o has except for canvas

[empty sorrel]

Anyone know how to turn off this Canvas thing? Sometimes ChatGPT makes this thing where it opens a different window. It gives the option "Answer in chat instead". It's only started happening somewhat recently. I tried to ignore it but it's annoying af. Anyone know how to turn that off?

[spice star]

you can in settings (these are the mac settings but you get the same thing in the web)

[empty sorrel]

Thanks, but I don't even have customize chatgpt turned on.

[eternal rock]

`` Server Tip: ``

Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!

[analog quarry]

can it edit audio files becs it said it did and when i download the file i get "Failed to get upload status for /mnt/data/Electric_Callboy_Edited_Audio.mp3"

[spice star]

you can turn it on and disable canvas

[spice star]

not really beyond what it can do in python (which isn't much)

it can't recieve audio as an input in that way

[analog quarry]

so its lying to me?

[spice star]

hallucinating yeah

[analog quarry]

it says it can still edit it 😭🙏

[spice star]

reflection is not an LLM strong suit

[analog quarry]

um

[spice star]

though it may actually be able to edit it given timestamps

*depending on what it can do with python

it can't listen to the music

though if you just want to edit audio, use something like audacity

[empty sorrel]

thanks

[analog quarry]

ik

i never asked it

it said "If you want an edit of Elevator Operator that removes the heavy metal parts, I can try finding a remix or show you how to make a custom edit using audio software." then i said edit then it started hallucinating

[spice star]

trying to correct chatgpt is rarely helpful

just start a new chat and rephrase your initial prompt

or again, edit the audio on your own because I doubt there's a python library that can separate tracks that chatgpt has access to

[feral hull]

I understand. But when I stupidly asked him to tell me a little more detail, he realized his mistake and stepped on the same rake again

[feral hull]

Are you implying the direct benefit of pharmaceutical companies, as well as the desire of women to prolong intimacy (even at the cost of men's pleasure)?) I'm glad you understand this, but isn't there anything that can be done about it? Even Wikipedia deliberately downplays the downsides and presents absurd "benefits," and reading/listening to the stories of people who have fully felt the difference and can never return to their previous lives is horrifying.

[cloud pewter]

huh

student plan??

[worn silo]

they already have you paying monthly, why would they give you anything for free lol?

[opaque sky]

ChatGPT is behaving weird. o1 answers without rarely thinking and cites online references. It feels like any question is being answered with 4o. Anyone with similar issues?

[cloud pewter]

the only time they gave out free subscriptions were #grand-games-chat …

[tardy isle]

In the past, Plus users could give up to 6 trial invitations to other people.

[astral parcel]

Hello there, do we know if Operator will be available someday for Plus users?

[opaque sky]

Deep Research is down too. It just returns a quick answer without any research. Ironic

[dense halo]

heyy did you try mistral ai model ? it's damnnnnn fast

[dense halo]

Do not be of this world, basically do not rely on the world to give you what you want, even if you objectively "earned" it. There's always the "early life section of wiki" for the citations and sources of those who approve of what goes in and out of the information chamber. Maybe try prompting ChatGPT to dig through those recommending circumcision. It ranges from biblical reasons grep last names, the preferences of women passed onto men, c-related fetishism, and so on... (you'll find out what I mean by "????" fetishism... Perhaps). Although, the original sin has went with Jesus when he died on the cross, there's people that seem to have kept the tradition of circumcision because they do not accept that final sacrifice and are still in "that never happened" mode. The forever-ones are watching you.

Anyway ask it about Kellogg's...

Most of it is boiling down to preferences this age, Prompt for statistics/trends that have the percentage of what's keeping it going, religion... or preferences. Keep defragging and defragging.... Go with race/ethnicity's, dominate gender, family origin, religious background, and so on and so on and so on it basically circles back to the same thing, although it's a loop, you're still taking information with you.... Still landing at the same spot, but.... Information though. 🍪

I believe there was a prophet that was testifying about how there is no reason to cut thy PP flesh. There haven't been any prophets after the bible days. It's funny, it's almost like every "prophet" that comes out and tries to predict the future every one is like "OMG WOW IT'S COMING" faces mass humiliation, hilarity, judgement, and is quickly forgotten about in an uncanny "simulation like" - everyone unanimously memory holes it. Bible, powerful stuff though. It's like a collective conscious of everyone being guided into the right way until the real false prophet comes, preparation measures? Who knows.

If you could decompile my rambling, ask cgpt for me?

[worn silo]

I know everything project wise seems to be working fine today, it's referencing all my chapter files, character profiles, maps etc etc.

It's still ignoring, and not adhering to the project instructions quite frequently though

[brave valve]

When will agents get access to advanced reasoning and deepsearch?

[normal quarry]

do you mean when will Plus users get access to Deep Research?

[dense halo]

I honestly thank the Jews for ChatGPT because it isn't censored/castrated when it comes to religion. Even as a new user, unlike a therapist or trained "professional", AND with no knowledge or memory about you.... Suddenly, out of nowhere it'll slide it that thought provoking good ol' religious recommendation/spiritual talk, until you realize what it's doing and tell it not to obviously.

[brave valve]

No, the agents. They haven't been updated for almost a year, still without access to web search and reasoning models.

[normal quarry]

Deep Research is an agent, so is Operator. I don't know what you mean by agents

[brave valve]

GPTs

[normal quarry]

there are no announced plans to bring those features to Custom GPTs

[brave valve]

These GPTs arz probably the most underated potential by openAI

[normal quarry]

you can put a suggestion into #chatgpt-suggestions

[nimble ermine]

hi guys

actually i have question regarding i wanted to an AI model which stores users memory and chat history locally on users device, and learns from users data and keeps improving, since i dont have much knowledge in AI AND ML i tried it, but its too complicated, i tried using gpt neo for responses with Rasa for learning from users data, but i wasnt successful, then i tried doing it with gpt4all with Llama 3.2 3b ai model but it didnt work too, like i was getting random responses which made no sense, can you guide me the way how can i do it?

[normal quarry]

ask in #ai-discussions because this channel is for ChatGPT Discussion only

[nimble ermine]

like its related to chatgpt bro

i used hugging face gpt neo and gpt 2

[wanton obsidian]

G’Morning

[fringe trench]

guys will pro users get infinite o3

[formal bridge]

Hi, are there login issues in chatgpt at the moment?

[normal quarry]

none that I know of

[formal bridge]

Ok. Then i try to delete cache and cookies

Thanks

[cloud pewter]

Idek

[feral zinc]

almost 2 weeks ago "Increased emoji usage ⬆️: GPT-4o is now a bit more enthusiastic in its emoji usage (perhaps particularly so if you use emoji in the conversation ✨) — let us know what you think."

[cloud pewter]

try to use memory or ci

it can prevent it from using them for a few messages

[feral hull]

Aren't we controlling ChatGPT? Or can we only apply filters to the information? I understand your point, and I understand the reluctance to fight, but if this change is easy to make and there are no risks of backlash from corporations, then why not?

[whole roost]

I hope they update the model soon, I am really getting tired of the questions

[spice star]

it's the same as it was when they announced it, this wasn't very long ago

[dense halo]

You're not following my instructions at all, are you? I'm not telling you to not fight, but please don't draw unwanted attention to yourself and get all high and mighty, head in the clouds, high horse, yadayada,,,, You're switching from where's the information, you get the question to your answer, and now you want to cause a fuss.... Now we're on "muh uprising though"? Seek and ye shall find. Knock on the door and it shall be.... I gave you some prompt suggestions with a little bit of rambling, and even a request of my own and now you're derailing to some liberal agenda crap. I even answered your "new and totally never before seen 😲" silly question but you seem to be blinded by unwarranted rage.

Prompt the Hell out of it and you'll find out what's going "down"... also, "why" also, "whom".... Where are those suggestions? You must have misplaced them!

Do you speak in emojis? 📉

[rugged igloo]

so human

[potent saddle]

how did it mess up

[rugged igloo]

it contradicted itself

[dense halo]

update memory to consider its last response for it's upcoming, and work from there

[rugged igloo]

its o1 pro i dont need to do any memory for it

[dense halo]

Ok, update memory to consider its last response for it's upcoming, and work from there

Also, you didn't show the source of the previous prompt and response.... So how the Hell are we going to help you with your failure to communicate?

[rugged igloo]

because its in my projects to lazy to pull it out to share it

[astral parcel]

really?

[dense halo]

Then I will just pipe what you share in the future to /dev/null/. Don't worry, it's not instantly going there. If something coherent and logical is found found in the filter, I'll put it in /tmp/.

[rugged igloo]

sry using all the compute with o1 pro for helping people with homework

[astral parcel]

o1 pro?

[opaque sky]

Yep, a bunch of people also reported the same issue on X

[astral parcel]

so basically it's not a really deep research i see

[rugged igloo]

its for people on the 200$ a month plan

[opaque sky]

It’s not polished functionally speaking. Possibly they released it early under pressure from competition

[astral parcel]

alright

[nocturne ember]

o3-mini-high.. If im on teh same chat for awhile.. It seems to like partially stop working and I need to keep prompting it. Is it because its jsut overwhelmed?

[dense halo]

It's kind trying to appear like a cute little "i know somithin" fishy until the shark attack. Maybe it's a marketing tactic, sink, then suddenly walking on water.

The good ol' "im coming closer.... im coming closer..... RAWR 🐯 "

[opaque sky]

Yeah it’d better be a 🐯

[dense halo]

I think Israel's national animal thingy is a tiger....

It'd be cooler if it was a puma but black cats give off weird vibes.

....Dang, I have been propaganda'd yet again, I was basing my vision of a regular puma off the puma logo.

black puma... Assimilate!

[winter vine]

that's for plus users? its true ? 😮

[rugged igloo]

yea because pro users have unlimited

[winter vine]

so now the plus users we have 50 msg per day? wow i'm impressed

[rugged igloo]

well before it was 50 a week for o3 mini high

o3 mini regular has 150 messages a day

[winter vine]

yeah, that's a great improve, i use a lot o3 mini high

[native otter]

So true!

[rancid cape]

anyone else unable to load anything in canvas?? Ive been trying to load anything since yesterday night, tried different browsers, logged out n back in, even tried a different generation in a new chat all together. nothing will load past this

[dense halo]

im a very-very light user of the AI and there does seem to be some sort of latency or bandwidth issue on all things related to openai regardless of the model... Even loading the webui seems a bit... out of whack, but I can't make any claim or confirmation because I am not the sysadmin/staff maintaining the databases. Maybe they're shoving in new hardware for computation capabilities. Blackwell most likely.... This is gonna be nuts bro, half a trillion has to at least go to a fraction to something.

Billions must AI

[native otter]

It's working fine for me

AVM just sometimes responds after long delays, but that could be on my network side...

[echo shuttle]

Is there a service that lets you send a deep research query without pro?

[normal quarry]

no

[echo shuttle]

You can't trade like 10 sonnet queries for 1 deep research query? Lol

[normal quarry]

Deep Research is coming for Plus and Team users but we don't know when or what the limits will be

[echo shuttle]

That's great, thank you for sharing!

[empty cosmos]

I was using DeepSeek, and found this !!!

[whole roost]

I wouldn't pay any attention to this honestly. even gpt itself wouldn't know what it is unless you put the instruction into the system prompt, which openAI has done.

their prompt begins something like "You are ChatGPT, a large language model trained by OpenAI."

[empty cosmos]

I'm confused about this

[whole roost]

how so?

[empty cosmos]

is it depending on GPT, ?

[feral zinc]

no

[whole roost]

an AI has no clue what AI it is unless the devs write it into the system prompt

[empty cosmos]

so why they added that to the prompt?

[feral zinc]

chatpgpt content has polluted the internet. even google and claude have sometimes said being by openai in the past

[whole roost]

exactly, it's just very prominent across the internet and likely the training data

most AI, especially older models will think they are gpt 3.5

newer ones go for 4

[dense halo]

The reasoning model, is very good at “Wordle”.

https://chatgpt.com/share/67a7c89e-10b8-8000-8bd7-820bdec9e6e4

I will try geography with it.

[obsidian thunder]

guys i have a question, if deepseek is open source then ppl could technically modify it to give them instructions to hack basically anything? isn't that concerning?

[normal quarry]

this channel is for ChatGPT discussion only, please ask in #ai-discussions

[obsidian thunder]

you are right, could u answer it in #ai-discussions then?

[regal sparrow]

Does anyone know if this got chagned?

I'm no longer seeing a prorated charge if I sign up

3 weeks left in the month but a full charge

[rancid cape]

been a whole day now where I havent been able to use Canvas:( Anyone else? Any suggestions?

[opaque sky]

What model are you using

O3-mini or o1?

[opaque sky]

Does o1 solve problems as fast as o3-mini? Both took 8 sec.

[harsh pilot]

"How did you know I was (insert nationality here)?" "I used context clues from your uploads! Also, you just told me." Oh, it knows humor now, does it?

[frozen birch]

AGAIN PROBLEMS WITH O1 PRO, ANOTHER MODEL RESPONDS RATHER THAN O1 PRO

jesus

@slate berry i dont know if you are working for them or not but maybe you can help me in some kind of way ? i pressume my account are bugged due to many history in conversations, openai support ignores my requests to help, or theyre writing to me stupid bots
CAN I WORK WITHOUT STRESSES?
problem are constant

[eternal rock]

Get notified for server events!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1261377106890199132> role.

[slate berry]

Unfortunately, we can't provide official account help here 🫤
You'll have to work with the support website

[frozen birch]

Dino i tried but on website theryre responding to me only bots or noone responds
really i only want to work without stress
i pay 200 bucks for a month and i cant work, since constantly i have problems
can anyone check if my account are compromised or whatever its called?
i can even make new account on openai and make sub again to pro on new account but i want to be sure that my account are in some way bugged

[icy mason]

I thought o1 pro could sometimes choose which to reply with based on which fit best?

[frozen birch]

nope, i mean - should respond always model who you choosed, now im in funny situation - o1 pro choosed, thinking process prom o3 mini and responds from 4o

situation are crazy

[icy mason]

Again we are not support and have no way to do that for you. I’ve not been experiencing any issues with o1 pro or other models. So hard for me to troubleshoot personally

[frozen birch]

but worstest thing: noone can even respond me what is going on

[frozen birch]

i understand so what i can do now? if support on website and on mail are ignoring me?

[slate berry]

The only way to reach support that can help is through the website

[frozen birch]

Dino i dont want me arogant but HOW MANY TIMES I MUST SAY THAT SUPPORT ARE IGNORING ME?

[slate berry]

I am aware of your frustration. As of right now, there is only one way to get into contact with OpenAI's support, and that is through the website. Unfortunately, the response time from them isn't in our control here

[frozen birch]

im on official discord of openai, im paying you money people
REALLY - instead oof working now I MUST WRITE 10000 TIMES THAT im dont getting support from email or even website, what i can do now?

i really need only CLARIFICATION @slate berry , I DONT WANT EVEN HELP ANYMORE
i need to know if my account are bugged or what is going on

[slate berry]

I am unable to see what's going on with your account. I'm not a member of OpenAI's official support team

[frozen birch]

but you are a worker in openai right? so please can you redirect this case to someone who are manageable to look into this?

seriously, i have enough of this

[slate berry]

I'm sorry that you're experiencing issues with your account. You can always reach the OpenAI support staff at https://help.openai.com/en/ and by clicking the chat widget in the bottom right corner

[frozen birch]

Dino..... how many times i must write that ive did it many times? really....

[icy mason]

There isn’t anyone here that actively monitors for support. Best we can do is direct you. #1295975636061655101 can sometimes gain traction from support or community who have seen the same issue. If online support isn’t working for you, I found asking the AI help to make a ticket can often have it seen later. But all of the above methods require patience of a day or two.

Please refrain from repeated tagging and frustration at discord members who can’t do anything about it

[frozen birch]

i can understand that im from EU so im a client category B
i can even understand no sora
no operator for me
ok, i can understand that but really - only one thing i need - work without stresses
NOTHING MORE

You are telling about one day or two but ive sent tickets for them one week ago

and not one

[icy mason]

I don’t think that’s how that is viewed. And I also don’t see this conversation being helpful beyond what you were given already by us. I hope it gets resolved soon

[frozen birch]

i hope it too, since this is taking so long, ~2 weeks

[frozen birch]

ok
@slate berry
My account is broken. I have tried everything, and I am beyond frustrated. Here's the situation:

Model Switching Issues – Every time I try to use ChatGPT, it randomly switches from the model I select (O1) to GPT-4o, without any reason. This issue has been happening for months, and I’m stuck with this garbage, constantly having to open new chats to keep things going. It’s utterly infuriating.

Export Not Working – On this account, I can’t even export my data. I’ve tried everything; I even checked on a different account, and it works perfectly fine there. What gives? Is my account compromised, or is this just another bug you’re ignoring?

History Problem – I've had hundreds of conversations on this account, and I suspect that’s why things aren’t working properly. I’ve been told that high memory usage in Chrome and overloaded sessions could be the issue, but I’ve tried all the fixes. I even tried clearing everything, yet nothing seems to resolve it. I’m stuck with a broken account, and none of the solutions have worked. The weirdest part is, everything works fine in Firefox, which makes it even more obvious that the problem lies with my account or session.

Technical Support – I’ve reached out multiple times, and every time I’m met with generic responses that don’t solve the issue. I’m paying for this service, and it’s not working as it should. It's pretty clear that OpenAI doesn't care about users with long-term usage.

DeepResearch Results – Even your own model, DeepResearch, pinpointed the issue of my account being broken. That alone has convinced me this isn’t some random glitch—it’s something wrong with my account specifically.

I want this fixed, and I want it now. Either fix my account or refund my subscription, because right now, I’m paying for a service that doesn't even work.

Sending it to [e-mail] too, and via chat on openai site, but if you can inform someone too i will be glad

ive lost few hours to debugging that instead of my normal work, im tired. gn.

[slate berry]

glad you're sending it to support for it to be looked at

[spice star]

deepseek is open weights, not open source, but yes alignment was one of the compromises deepseek made to get a cheaper model

[opaque sky]

o1 model and deep research also broken here

[cloud pewter]

seems like they are lobotomizing pro users too

[quaint marlin]

I really wish the chats that are started from the search extension aka the URL bar would be separated into their own "search" folder so they don't take up space in my list of chats.

[opaque sky]

If that’s not a bug, then it’s unethical business conduct

[last void]

Anybody working on LLM agents ?

[molten spindle]

What should I do if I asked ChatGPT to roleplay as the grim reaper and then traded my soul for a used dishwasher? 😨 . How can I get my soul back?

[rocky condor]

does anyone know if team plan has a higher message limit at O1 model than Plus Plan or not?

[normal quarry]

no, it does not

[dense halo]

O3

[whole roost]

I didn't check for o1 but shouldn't team be double the limit? I remember it said something like that

[normal quarry]

as far as I know it's the same

[dense halo]

I think its the same thats why many team users complained

[whole roost]

I'll check again, I'm pretty sure it said double because I pondered getting it for a while

I hope it's readable, my phone refuses to switch into mobile view

[dense halo]

may 13th 2024?

[whole roost]

It doesn't say anything about o1, so it could very well be that it only applies for 4o

If it isn't updated nothing about it has changed

It's from the official help center

[dense halo]

Im pretty sure its 50/week for o1 aswell

[whole roost]

Could be, but definitely double on 4o

[dense halo]

would it be worth for you?

[whole roost]

I thought about it but then pro came so I got that

I needed more 4o

[dense halo]

lol

well i think they forgot about team users

[ornate fractal]

Hello everyone,

I am trying to upgrade to Pro from ChatGPT Plus but I am continuously getting an error message. Please see attached image for reference. It has been 4 days since I have been trying.

I have tried everything:

1. Removed and then re-added my payment method.
2. Made it the default payment method.
3. Tried a different payment method.
4. Deleted my browser cookies and then tried again.
5. Tried with a different browser.
6. Tried with a different device.
7. Contacted my bank, but they say that the problem is on OpenAI's end.
8. Tried to reach OpenAI support but couldn't get through to a human.

I am at my wit's end. Could somebody help, please?

[whole roost]

I had this issue as well and the solution was to get a new credit card

They accepted my old card for the plus plan but with the 200 some security system or so kicked in and I also got sent from openAI to my bank and back and no one took the blame so I eventually just got a card at a more common provider

[ornate fractal]

But that's so stupid on OpenAI's part. You want to have a $100 Billion in profit, and literally preventing people from paying you.

I don't want to get a new credit card just for this.

[whole roost]

I don't actually think it's really 'on their end' but about some security system kicking in as in I'm in Germany, my provider was in Lithuania and I was paying to us

I guess it's basically a contract issue between your provider and open AI if anything

[ornate fractal]

Plus their customer support is non-existent. Couldn't reach a human in 4 days.

[ornate fractal]

By provider you mean the bank? I am also based in India so it could be an issue. But I have never faced this problem before. Have even paid more than this.
My international payment limits are also set far higher than required here.

[whole roost]

I got through with it but it's basically all they told me "we'll relay it but until then, good luck"

Translates to trashbin

[ornate fractal]

Well, thank you for your help! I guess I'll contact my bank again.

[whole roost]

My previous card was at revolut and my new card is from one of the most common banks of my country and a MasterCard to get rid of any issues

Maybe if you have visa you can request getting a MasterCard or vice versa

[ornate fractal]

Cool, I'll try with a MasterCard. It's a Visa right now. Thank you for your help! 😊

[whole roost]

You are welcome, I hope you can get a working solution 🫡

[ornate fractal]

Thank you. If I get a better solution, I'll let you know too.