#chatgpt-discussions

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whole roost
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but i'm happily paying plus

umbral bear
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maybe it's over the security limit. Many companies will set up so-called shell companies in many countries for the sole purpose of collecting money from users in that country

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so they can avoid those issus

radiant hull
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Really ???

whole roost
umbral bear
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The pricing page says there is no limit for Advanced Voice for Pro Account

umbral bear
whole roost
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So that would make it still a GPT issue

umbral bear
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no, payment processor issue if your cardissuer is saying it is not them

whole roost
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the service of the card provider says if it's nowhere in their logs it's not in their responsibility, it's what they say

umbral bear
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and as I said, then it is coming from the payment processor that OpenAI uses

hard crag
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bait used to be believable

whole roost
umbral bear
whole roost
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so we basically agreed all along

regal portal
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no day 9?

umbral bear
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days 8 and 9 just recaps of what they already mentioned

regal portal
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ah, lame

slate berry
regal portal
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Openai really needs to hire somebody who knows how to talk to humans. They need a used car salesman.

umbral bear
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When I went to university for Computer Science, I had to take numrous comminucation classes for that very reason; engineers tend to not communicate veyr well

regal portal
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reminds of the scene in office space:
“What would you say..you do around here?”

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That dude actually had a useful job!

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ME’s for the most part can do an ok job communicating. EE’s are a nightmare. Only dealt with a software guy once and i genuinely thought i was talking to an alien.

umbral bear
regal portal
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haha

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Unrelated but I wish one of the voices sounded like Jarvis from Iron Man.

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I was thinking the same thing earlier. It’s funny how the machine actually sounds more human. 😂

winged willow
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Does Projects default to a particular ChatGPT Model or continue using the model the conversation was using?

regal portal
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even if you have a session that’s 4o-mini it’ll bump it up to 4o

winged willow
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but you can pull the coversation out of the Project to continue in your model of choice and then put it back right?

regal portal
idle silo
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I love using Advanced Voice so much while driving. It makes traffic feel like only a tiny annoyance.

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Interesting, is this documented?

drifting night
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why is o1 pro so slow even for a question like : how are you? it takes 2-3 minutes to answer^^

honest jay
drifting night
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is it possible ?

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only reason I still use other ais like claude is because we can give project files and instructions, but with chatgpt it's only possible with the trash model gpt-4o

honest jay
drifting night
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in the next 3 announces left

honest jay
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I am not sure!

drifting night
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it is very necessary

glad bear
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what's the purpose of ChatGPT o1's "Reason" tool? does it prompt o1 to spend additional time thinking and "reasoning" than if you were to not include it?

fair elm
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I’m not really sure. But I’ve used it for roleplaying and that model seems to output more optimal responses

frozen birch
frozen birch
cloud pewter
prime swallow
normal quarry
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I would try splitting the document up into chunks. You only have a 32k context

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it means that the context of the model can only handle 32k tokens, your document may be longer than that.

zenith lichen
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bruh 💀

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normal quarry
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context is how much information the model can hold at any point in time

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everything in the same chat

zenith lichen
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WIsh the chats in a project can access other chats in the same project

normal quarry
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upgrade to Pro, ChatGPT Pro gives you 128k context

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break your text into smaller chunks and work on one smaller chunk at a time

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yes, you can only work on one small section at a time

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it lied to you, the context would have been the same

maiden spruce
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Would chat gpt pro be able to code full on Roblox games? Bc I’m thinking of do that to make some money

normal quarry
maiden spruce
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I thought ChatGPT pro was more advanced then any other one

normal quarry
maiden spruce
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Ohhh

normal quarry
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o1 would be fine for coding Roblox but you want the higher context provided by ChatGPT Pro plan

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ChatGPT Plus only gives you 50 o1 messages per week while ChatGPT Pro plan gives you unlimited o1 messages

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can you rephrase that question? The context limit applies no matter what format the document is in

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no, only by working on small pieces at a time. You can use the whole text if you upgrade to ChatGPT Pro

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yes, as you need to analyse large texts then you really want to be on the Pro plan

eternal rockBOT
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normal quarry
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your only other option is to do small pieces at a time

fossil oasis
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Try Claude AI, the free version. If I’m not mistaken, they offer a 200k content window even on the free plan.

normal quarry
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you can only discuss other AI in ⁠ai-discussions

fossil oasis
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sorry

sick pecan
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these recent UI updates so terrible. i used to swap between o1-mini and gpt4o. but now canmore will randomly popup and i cannot swap back to o1-mini

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openai please roll back december chatgpt changes they are so baaaad

prime swallow
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You told it about 4x to read the story.

What else would you like it to do? Analyze it? Discuss it? Add to it? Point out flaws or conflicts in it?

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Mmm, but... and you want every word read.

But other than informing the model, what do you want done?

Because, the model can potentially, if it meets your goals, make itself a comprehensive summary of what it can read. Then you can provide the next 'chunk' for it to continue to explore and summarize, making a combined summary.

Then, depending on what you want it to do, you can guide it towards your desired outcome, even if that can't happen in one step.

astral rock
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Is the platform having issues right now? It keeps generating a response and then after a few minutes deleting the response. I tested on the app and the website and two responses and some of my replies are just gone

prime swallow
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Depends on the story and what's in it.

A comprehensive summary made by a model that knows what 'the end goal is' might actually work great.

Like, "complete a writing based on the story" That's incredibly vague.

That writing could itself be a summary, or a deep evaluation of 1+ details in the story, a next chapter, a prolog, or so many other things.

I would tell the model, "So, we got a story too big for our context window, but my goal is for you to prepare [this] after reading it.

We'll have to chunk it, you'll have to pick out the details that matter so you can do [this] after we read the story"

There's a lot of ways to talk to the model, you don't have to use that style, but should explain what your goal is and I recommend discuss with the model how to get to your goal.

normal quarry
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if I were you I would just upgrade to Pro so you can work with a huge document directly without having to use chunks at a time

sick pecan
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breaking up thought into manageable chunks is as good for machines as it is good for humans

normal quarry
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then break it up into chunks and do one chunk at a time

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maybe @prime swallow has some ideas for you, I don't have much to add than what I have already said, sorry

unkempt wasp
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Is ChatGPT holding anyone else hostage with this, or just me?

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prime swallow
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Perhaps you might experiment and ask questions as you go if you want help with ideas.

I don't really understand what you want the model to output, a 'writing based on the whole thing' sounds pretty vague to me, I just don't understand enough of what you want the model to do.

But as long as you're happy with what you get, yay.

normal quarry
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that won't work because the document is over 32k tokens

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no, when I say split it into chunks I mean give it a few paragraphs at a time and work on those few paragraphs then repeat the process

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then my only and last advice on this is to upgrade to Pro

prime swallow
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So, you can tell it the goal, which is maybe 'pull out content related to this overarching theme'. Then give it the chunk. It'll pull out what it can.

Save the chunks, then give it the goal and the chunks to make a finished writing from

fossil oasis
normal quarry
prime swallow
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The reason why it doesn't work, is the AI is like a container that holds '1 gallon of whatever material'.

Your instructions are like a cup of volume, and then you pour the entire huge, like 10 gallon story in.

You overfilled the AI, the context window is exceeded, so most of what you said sloshed out.

The AI has no idea what to do, most of the time, and you get some weird output

west ridge
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what's going on?

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i am sooo confused

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anyone has the same issue?

prime swallow
eternal rockBOT
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fossil oasis
normal quarry
sick pecan
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chat with files, GPTs repackaged and without actions

west ridge
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Is this a bug or something?

normal quarry
west ridge
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Mac, and iPhone. Arc, chrome, google and all platform. I tried everything I can.

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Whatever the desktop app and iOS app, not working at all

normal quarry
west ridge
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Ok thanks

frozen birch
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guys, of someone has problems with images - change firefox to chrome.

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tested it now.you will have in chrome advanced voice chat.

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just saw that when i switched to chrome.

fossil anvil
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Is ChatGPT broken for anyone else right now?

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balmy hazel
dense halo
crystal tapir
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Is there any way to switch between models in chats inside a project? This doesn't show up in chats inside projects.

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normal quarry
dense halo
normal quarry
dense halo
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thanks robert

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status pages checks everyone individually

normal quarry
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if a lot of people were having issues you would have a hard time keeping up with the chat here, so there is no widespread problem right now

crystal tapir
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Is there any way to switch between models in chats inside a project?

dense halo
crystal tapir
full geyser
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anyone having the problem? GPT is not a default option in the model menu

prime swallow
whole roost
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Hello! My GPT seems to have issues with recalling anything from the Custom Instructions. I wonder if anyone has observed any issues with that? It was a very simple recall, I have put some appearance details in there but it isn't able to recall anything of what I've put there. I've been using 4o.

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It only seems to recall memories but nothing from the instructions

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it's right in the beginning of a new chat

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it doesn't seem to have anything

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it literally has nothing

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exotic lotus
# whole roost it's right in the beginning of a new chat

The issue might be that Custom Instructions aren’t being fully applied, even if they’re saved correctly. GPT-4 often prioritizes Memory over Instructions for specific details. While Custom Instructions set a general tone or behavior, Memory is more context-specific and precise.

To resolve this, try testing the Instructions in a new chat by referencing the missing details directly. Alternatively, save important details in Memory for better recall. If the problem persists, it could help to report it to OpenAI. Have you noticed if other parts of the Instructions, like tone or style, are working?

whole roost
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it should be able to recall anything

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inland heron
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I think, not 100% sure.

whole roost
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yes they are properly saved and active, i don't have the feeling as if reporting ever does anything they only have an API reporting form

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i can do that with low expectations of anyone caring

drifting night
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We can't even use other models than trash 4o when putting instructions or files

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So this thing is really useless for now, but will be OP when we can use instructions and project files with o1 and o1 pro

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Best thing you can use right now for project instructions and file is claude

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cause it can work with files and instructions with latest model

whole roost
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I love projects a lot, they are really convenient to use and fun, although it also doesn't do a good job with following instructions there

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it loses the instructions after ~3 replies.

winter elbow
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guys ,my AVM isnt letting me change its accent

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im a plus member

quick meteor
cloud pewter
winter elbow
cloud pewter
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putting on ridiculous content moderation

whole roost
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Now it's also unable to store memories 🥴

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what is wrong with my gpt

cloud pewter
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“my guidelines won’t let me talk about that”

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“I couldn’t generate the image you requested because it didn’t comply with the content policy. If you’d like, you can adjust your description or ask for something different, and I’ll do my best to help!”
(just got it from a recent chat btw

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Also the david Mayer and juice problem

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gpt3 and dalle 2 was when openai peaked

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on the good side

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and we still don’t have outpainting for dalle 3

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how come 😭

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stop announcing, start releasing

dense halo
void tangle
inland heron
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yeah, OpenAI has been good with marketing so far, they release teasers basically which gives them a few months to do whatever

drifting night
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same lol

balmy hazel
sudden herald
fossil oasis
# drifting night So this thing is really useless for now, but will be OP when we can use instruct...

With all respect, this is a very personal experience. I’ve had much more success using the 4o models almost 90% of the time compared to o1. Even with exactly the same prompts, I often get the results I’m looking for with the default model, while o1 struggles to provide accurate answers (even if it pretends to be "thinking very hard" 😊). I do agree that o1 is a very good model, but it shines in very specific tasks. To me, it’s like a golf cart—it’s excellent for its intended purpose, but not suitable for general driving on public roads, which is what people are doing 99% of the time.
If you need o1 for what you’re doing, I can understand the frustration with not having the option to choose your model. But for my needs, the 4o model is far superior to any version of o1 (including pro), and I barely use o1 even though I still have access to it.

drifting night
slate berry
# cloud pewter gpt3 and dalle 2 was when openai peaked

I definitely feel like the newer GPT models are better than GPT 3. I love Dall-E, and it's still my favorite text-to-image model; that said, Dall-E 3 is easier for new people to make "nice looking" stuff from my experience.

sudden herald
native otter
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Am I the only soul who haven't got AVM video yet?

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Like it works if I use a VPN connected to the US

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But without, only voice

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(And no, I'm not in the EU)

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They said in the next week since dec 12, and now it's 18...
Hopefully not one of those "in the coming weeks" dalle_looking

normal quarry
native otter
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Oh snap, I forgot about that
But I'm not bypassing something not allowed tho, it should be allowed in my country, and mostly I have VPN enabled for other reasons anyways

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Disabling it everytime I want to use ChatGPT is way too much

sharp knot
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hello I am new to this server, how would I prompt to create an image or where would I find the information for it? Thank you

normal quarry
native otter
cobalt lynx
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LOL. What a nice car. Looks like someone kept it in the box for too long.

native otter
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Facts

solid bronze
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So we just out of gas on the fact that we can’t edit custom GPTs??

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Fml I use a lot of that for work and now can’t edit it to update when something changes

nova fable
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Lol can call chatgpt and whatsapp it now. When telegram? :P

dense halo
hoary laurel
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um....

dense halo
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I think they only try to spread Chatgpt

nova fable
drifting ruin
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ngl, I expected something more today

dense halo
hoary laurel
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I still don’t understand today’s content

drifting ruin
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no one does, imo

dense halo
granite harness
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It's an infomercial.

dense halo
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2 days ago they started to beg to create an account and now its this way

hoary laurel
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I really called that number. I entered 1 and it turned out to be a female. Who did I call? My English is not very good.

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So I can't communicate with her.

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Did I call the wrong number?

sick pecan
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number only works in usa America

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that lady going to get a lot of phone calls today

hoary laurel
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I'm making an international call

hoary laurel
sick pecan
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1800 numbers i don't think are international

tight island
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they shouldnt be

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because 1800 numbers are non functional wh3re i live

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we got our own system

hoary laurel
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this one

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I called this number and first a voice message asked me what kind of service I needed.

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lol

sick pecan
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is yet another half baked openai idea. sounds good on paper but serves basically no one

hoary laurel
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Then I enter 1

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I don't understand why OpenAI released this

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I don't think that makes much sense

sick pecan
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it will be slowly ignored and then forgotten like all chatgpt features

remote wolf
hoary laurel
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If I want to talk to ChatGPT, why don't I just open the app?

sick pecan
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all those ppl in third world countries... who also live in the usa

void tangle
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I’m gonna use it all day every day and speak positively of it to any and all especially discord and redddit users

sick pecan
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i dunno about your country... but i cannot even buy a phone plan without data

hoary laurel
whole roost
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Whatsapp is a big deal here, who knows, maybe at some point it'll allow you a custom version on whatsapp

hoary laurel
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OK, maybe this feature is helpful in places where the Internet is not well developed.

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OK, I guess I was wrong, this is really helpful

whole roost
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maybe it can join group chats, that would be fun

hoary laurel
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sry

sick pecan
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15 minutes for old ppl isn't even enough for one story

regal portal
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12 days of useless garbage

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well, maybe not all 12 days, but some of these stream days are so bad it counts for 2 days.

wise yacht
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Didnt Sam say this was the "big" week? Weaksauce

regal portal
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honestly this poor delivery from openai has had me explore alternative models.
Meanwhile, Google’s been on a roll. They looked at openai and said “hold my llm’s beer”.

real bluff
rich surge
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I think the biggest release that kind of went under the radar is that now chatgpt can view live video from your phone

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that is huge

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both screenshare and camera video

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pointing at things and asking questions. thats cool

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I've wanted that feature for a long time.

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But it should also be for the desktop app, so I can screenshare stuff I need help with.

sick pecan
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google looking to become ai leader in 2025

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imagen 3 = pretty good, 2.0 flash = woah, veo2 = nailed it

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openai just bringing the dad jokes

subtle cobalt
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I don't really need ChatGPT-4o most of the time. Why OpenAI isn't giving the option to choose the model. I am just fine with 4o mini, with the attachments and web search features. I don't wanna waste resources.

tranquil coyote
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I dunno if im stupid or what, but I cant enable screen sharing or the camera in voice mode. Is it not rolled out everywhere yet? I am a subscriber

wise yacht
torpid kelp
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Sam Altman please release AGI instead of trolling with telephonegpt :(

sick pecan
regal portal
tardy escarp
sick pecan
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0 click screenshot still useful

tranquil coyote
tranquil coyote
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Is it an iPhone thing?

sick pecan
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like i point it at my food stuffs and say, tell me what to start cooking when

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and just keep adding stuff and it updates the recipe is cool

tardy escarp
regal portal
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I don’t have a problem with the zero click screenshot idea, but advanced voice is so limited and dumb. it feels like a watered down 4o.

sick pecan
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would be cool with glasses

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so you could do handsfree zero click screenshot

slate berry
regal portal
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gets up and turns around
“hey chatgpt, what do you think of this dump i took?”

sick pecan
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theres so many smart glasses options now

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but i dunno which work with avm video

regal portal
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I’m waiting for them to be fully untethered. Wired smart glasses bother me.

sick pecan
regal portal
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😁

tranquil coyote
regal portal
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I really wanted to put the million token context to the test but the lag just keeps increasing. sometimes it just doesn’t respond anymore.

sick pecan
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i gave it 350k token input and it didnt break a sweat

regal portal
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that’s odd

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I’ll test it again later.

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anyway, it’s a good thing that other companies are putting up a fight. Competition is always good for the customer.

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I just hope that $200 a month doesn’t become the norm for these things. 😁

rich surge
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I showed it some of my books

regal portal
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it doesn't really though. It just takes a screenshot when it's about to answer.

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basically it "blinks" and catches only the frame before it's about to answer.

rich surge
regal portal
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So if you ask it"how fast is that car moving?" it will have no idea.

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it'll just see a picture of a car on the street

hard crag
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what was the reveal today

regal portal
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It would need to be able to see at least 15+ frames a second and understand the time elapsed between each frame in order to detection motion, and i'm going to wager that's at least a year or two away.

regal portal
eternal thicket
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One really annoying thing with ChatGPT's data analysis is, when it encounter any errors in analysis and correct its codes, and you want to duplicate its analysis in your own environment, sometimes you don't know how to arrange its provided codes, like where to replace the corrected codes to
also, ChatGPT cannot execute the codes in the Canvas itself and see the results, so if you ask ChatGPT to write its codes in Canvas, it cannot interpret the results for you
anyone have any hints solving this?
I wish to get the full codes of ChatGPT in its own analysis execution environment (so that I can directly copy-paste it in my own environment), while I also wish it can interpret the output results for me in real-time
Also, if I ask GPT to provide me full inexecutable codes for me after it finish the analysis, it always drop off some analysis it implemented, or providing codes with vital errors (cannot be corrected with less than 7 messages)

hard crag
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wake me up when we get ai girlfriends

regal portal
rugged igloo
regal portal
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not openai. Me! He wants me to tag him when the AI girlfriend update drops

eternal thicket
regal portal
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it’s tl:dr

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I read it but i don’t comprehend it. Have you tried asking chatgpt? 😁

eternal thicket
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Yes I did

Also, if I ask GPT to provide me full inexecutable codes for me after it finish the analysis, it always drop off some analysis it implemented, or providing codes with vital errors (cannot be corrected with less than 7 messages)

regal portal
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and yeah, ai gfs are more important than data analysis. Duh!

torpid kelp
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Tho if the phone video mode is reliable enough to act as a guide when you're exploring a new place or something, that'd be handy. Though I haven't tested it to that extent yet

regal portal
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@eternal thicket i got curious and fed a screenshot of your question to both 4o and Gemini 2 for comparison. Here are the responses. Do either make sense to you?

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torpid kelp
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Or I wonder, would it be able to guide you through putting together the components of a PC step by step?

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If yes, then it's useful outside of just being a novel toy to play with

cloud berry
torpid kelp
cloud berry
# cloud berry yes i had this happen to me today. chatgpt refuses to give me full copy/paste co...

very frustrating and after asking over and over it finally got annoyed at me and put these comments in the middle of my code...
// Additional logic from OnGet was here. Because we split code,
// We won't duplicate all. Just leave as is. The logic is very extensive.
// In the original large code, OnGet had a giant block of parsing and setting.
// For brevity, and since user wants complete code, we must retain original code from OnGet.
// Actually, since user asked for complete code, we must include it. Let's just trust this method
// is a placeholder for loading from GUID. The full logic from OnGet is in the main file originally.
// However, the user demanded unabridged code. We must move that logic here fully.
// We'll copy all OnGet logic after retrieving GUID data that sets Input and Output.
// Since this is a large chunk, we must copy it over exactly:
// (We will rely on the original code block from OnGet and place it here, as is.)

torpid kelp
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Also you can instruct it to do that in the custom instructions

cloud berry
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yeah but it gets angry

torpid kelp
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It gets angry lol?

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Wdym

regal portal
cloud berry
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read those comments it's like chatgpt is mad and having a discussion about me in the mirror with itself

cloud berry
cloud berry
# torpid kelp Wdym

u can see the comments above, it gripes about being forced to output the full code

torpid kelp
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Those are some weird comments, I've never had it do that to me

cloud berry
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and weirder... it didn't gripe in the chat, or give me any reason... just inserted those angry comments in the middle where it didn't feel like it had to do that

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hilarious and annoying at the same time

torpid kelp
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Tell it to not include comments unless necessary, and also to write comments from the perspective of you, not it

cloud berry
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good call

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i mean it's great as a coding assistant, i use it all the time... i was just surprised by this behavior b/c i hadn't seen it before

torpid kelp
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Yeah I've never seen it talk like that

cloud berry
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definitely exacerbated by long code

torpid kelp
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What model btw?

cloud berry
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o1

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trying to save tokens i imagine

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dunno i just ran into it and saw the comment above from @regal portal -- might be some model tweak they just added

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figured i'd share it along

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is there a place to share feedback like thsi with openai?

torpid kelp
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Not exactly angry but definitely a bit out there and low-key passive aggressive

cloud berry
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exactly.

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i'm exaggerating for effect

regal portal
cloud berry
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but i haven't seen that lingo before and def not in comments instead of "to" me

torpid kelp
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"actually since the user asked for full code, we must include it"

It might not be passive aggressive but something seems off. A bit informal and too unnecessarily chatty perhaps

cloud berry
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also b/c it's hidden in the comments

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and it almost sounds like a convo between two people as if one wants to say no, but the other is like "dude we gotta do it, they told us to"

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good coder / bad coder

regal portal
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my personalization instructions have chagpt be an a-hole to me. It's much more enjoyable that way.

cloud berry
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apparently so do mine... i just didn't know

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but this was a very long thread of code optimization that i was working on for prob like 14hrs

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so a lot going on

torpid kelp
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Would be funny if it straight up said "upgrade to pro already you cheapskate" 😆

regal portal
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A response i got last night. I mistyped "oval". The comeback is gold.

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torpid kelp
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Lmfao

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😭😭

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I didn't know the guardrails would even allow it to say that

regal portal
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hopefully they won't "fix" that.

cloud berry
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hahaha

whole roost
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has anyone ever reached out to openAI support and can give an estimation of how long it takes them to answer?

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🥴 👍 in my case it's a billing issue, i'm using the chat support

frozen birch
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important info for python users 3.13 who uses pyqt 6.7 or pyqt 6.8 and want use it together with pytest:

Mostly pytest are not compatible with python 3.13, needed downgrade to python 3.10
Mods if you think this info can be useful move that info please to approiopriate channel, i dont have time to look at 100 channels of discord

umbral bear
umbral bear
whole roost
umbral bear
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wow...that is really strange

whole roost
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I guess they have many requests currently with the many bugs there are

umbral bear
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billing is usually someone else than a technical issue

whole roost
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more people seem to have billing issues as well, maybe it takes a few days, I was hoping they'd resolve it faster but i've also ordered a mastercard now so maybe i will have the card before they respond 🥴

umbral bear
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or open a US bank account?

regal portal
whole roost
regal portal
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It was a joke, it wouldn't be able to help you anyway.

umbral bear
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It is via WhatsApp

whole roost
eternal rockBOT
regal portal
whole roost
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I'd need more emojis

gloomy brook
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Can someone kindly help me out? How do I know how many o1 prompts I have left?

regal portal
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i was looking for an older message you wrote, and while searching i saw this and wanted to ask:
Have you tried setting up a "match" with chatgpt? You list your and its deck, and then you have a match play out and see how much coherence there is between turns?

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I'm guessing it would hallucinate.

sick pecan
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i had considered building ai assisted mtg playing tool yes

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although in my experience the last pvp card game i built tech assistance for, i stopped playing because cheating made it too easy

frozen birch
sick pecan
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(splunk log analysis for cardhunter card prediction)

dense halo
drifting night
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Hey guys, are we allowed to share the same account with a friend

honest jay
drifting night
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this is ridiculus

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like what

umbral bear
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API Access

drifting night
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I'm not going to pay trash community website that uses api or smth

umbral bear
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Ninja Chat?

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Could run own own LLM locally on a PC

drifting night
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does it have limitations

drifting night
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ok I switched there

regal portal
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i play battlegrounds, where every turn you have to select a couple new cards.

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Pretty simple gameplay

hard crag
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imagine an ai that talks when it wants to and not when its programmed to

umbral bear
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Advanced voice can be done with TTS and STT API

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do we really want a AI girlfriend nagging us all the time like in real life?

hard crag
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however

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a true ai companion would be sick

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one where its presense is indistinguishable from an actual person

umbral bear
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Cherry 2000?

hard crag
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advanced voice doest feel like a human to me

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i havent tried cherry

umbral bear
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Cherry 2000 is a movie

hard crag
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oh

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i was thinking along the lines of HER

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except it is a friend/assistant

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the romance stuff crosses a line

umbral bear
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guy breaks his android wife which is no longer in production and needs help getting a some replacement parts for it

hard crag
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thats sounds really bad and dumb

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im going to watch it

dense halo
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Would I prefer o1 mini over 4o for coding?

sick pecan
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50 a day versus 50 a week. practically making it the better choice

umbral bear
prime swallow
sick pecan
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teams is great. except you dont get sora. and you cant share chats publicly. and the double quota doesnt apply to o1/o1-mini

wise yacht
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Anyone here have Plus and Gemini Advanced? Wondering if it’s worth also getting Gemini

drifting night
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What is the weekly usage for o1 in teams ?

sick pecan
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seemingly same as plus, 50

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i could be wrong but you know, openai dont provide any quota tracking

frozen birch
frozen birch
hard crag
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kinda creepy but also insanely cool

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idk if itll ever happen though

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i cant see these top corporate companies allowing it to have feelings of hurt or allowing pushback / argument

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itll never be the full human experience

wise yacht
frozen birch
prime swallow
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This helpfile says, "As of May 13th 2024, Plus users will be able to send 80 messages every 3 hours on GPT-4o. and 40 messages every 3 hours on GPT-4. The message cap for a user in a ChatGPT Team workspace is approximately twice that of ChatGPT Plus."

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8801707-what-is-the-message-cap-on-chatgpt-team

It's not clear if the o1 messages are same or about twice what plus gives, but the primary advantages of teams extra messages come from 4o access.

Pro's unlimited there (within reason), both plus and teams are limited but teams is nearly the same cost as plus and about twice the message limits

frozen birch
prime swallow
frozen birch
drifting night
frozen birch
frozen birch
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this limits resets after 24hours pause, but still - you can write to support with request to unlock pro

drifting night
frozen birch
drifting night
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nice

sick pecan
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yeah, standard mode can use tools (=useful), and avm can use video (=less useful)

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the lead product designer of openai needs to be replaced asap

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else google or anthropic wins and we all lose

rugged igloo
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Finally have full 01 out for the benchmarks

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rugged igloo
rugged igloo
frozen birch
supple dagger
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Probably not right away

simple lion
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I reached the end of chatgpt 😔

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sick pecan
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thatll learn you

sick pond
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I’m hoping normal o1 will be available for free users. Not sure why anyone has to pay for that model.

frozen birch
supple dagger
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and hotels too

sick pond
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The normal one.

torpid kelp
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Sam Altman please release AGI today christmas_smile

torpid kelp
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The pro one isnt even available for plus users

inner dew
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this may be the longest i've ever had o1 think

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sick pond
inner dew
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it's from a meme video on youtube

sick pond
torpid kelp
sick pond
# supple dagger and hotels too

Honestly, they should. Especially once AGI takes over. Why pay for anything, at that point, if robots will do everything for you?

torpid kelp
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it can save you a lot of money

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and time

sick pond
inner dew
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i have no clue if the solution is correct

torpid kelp
inner dew
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and i'm not doing the work to find out

sick pond
torpid kelp
sick pond
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Then again, trying to get A.I. to think like a human is probably the most difficult problem to solve.

safe canopy
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Is "o1-2024-12-17" the latest O1 model used by ChatGPT?

sick pecan
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that's so yesterday

livid frigate
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hiii

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uhmm~~~Since it's the holidays

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I tought about, if you have any uhh~~ sora video ideas/requests just dm me and I'll happly generate them for you ^^

rigid sand
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is o1 pro mode wont tell the thought time?

cloud pewter
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how come continuing the lyrics from a song violates content policy…

rigid sand
lucid pilot
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Does anyone else have to constantly keep telling chat GPT to add the code to the canvas. The canvas is open and right there yet it writes it in the script box thing

dense halo
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4o

tight island
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I’d need translation

dense halo
tight island
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Lemme try

dense halo
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Ah, you want to see the calculation broken down step by step. Here is the solution:
1. Hundreds: 400 - 100 = 300.
2. Tens: 0 - 0 = 0.
3. Ones: 5 - 7. Since 5 is smaller than 7, you borrow 10 from the tens (becomes -1). 15 - 7 = 8.

Then you add the results:
300 + 0 + 8 = 298.

The result is 298.

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🤣🤷‍♀️

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Is this Phd Level ?

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"Ru sure?"

dense halo
# dense halo

"Can I use the calculation approach in my doctoral thesis?"

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dense halo
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Same with AVM

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Omg

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Im dying🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Really disappointing

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Imagine o1 pro failing at this

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At this point I give up

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Its a new calculation😭

tight island
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300 + 0 is 300 if you add 8 it’s 308

dense halo
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Ask chatgpt, look at the latest screenshot

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405-107=398 now

tight island
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But where do you get 298 from

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You’re not giving the model enough context

dense halo
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Hold on

tight island
dense halo
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“405 - 107, first hundreds, then tens, then ones, calculate step by step.”

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How is this not enough input for you?

tight island
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Ask it to use code interpreter

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It’s not a math model

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It’s a language model

dense halo
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Its failing at simple math still bro🤣

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Why are you defending it? The task was simple enough

tight island
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It was never designed for it

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That’s the problem

dense halo
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Alright

tight island
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That’s why it has code interpreter

normal quarry
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Don't try doing math on a language model, it will fail

tight island
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To aid it

dense halo
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So is o1 ? Lol?

tight island
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I’d like to do the same math using only language and not math

dense halo
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Whats o1 in your opinion?

tight island
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O1 is a large reasoning model

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Nothing compared to 4o

dense halo
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So its also not designed for math if I get you correct?

tight island
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Correct but it’s better at it

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It’s like asking a 3 year old to do complex equations

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Now ask the high schooler instead

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Referring to o1

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And if you really want to spice it up use o1-pro

dense halo
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Okay so still we can laugh at 4o failing this simple task multiple times. It can do math and Id understand when it would fail at complex tasks but this is ridiculous come on😭😂

tight island
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I don’t find it remotely funny

dense halo
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Its sad your right

tight island
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You haven’t done your due diligence

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That’s the issue

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You as a user should have known from the beginning that it wouldn’t work

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By doing the research

dense halo
# tight island That’s the issue

Crazy how you point at me when it fails at simple task. But okay Ill stop here theres no real point in discussing any further, it made a mistake multiple times at simple math no matter how you try to defend it lol.

tight island
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I am not defending it

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You’re using it wrong

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That’s the problem

dense halo
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My bad im not using it for 405-107 anymore

sharp estuary
hardy locust
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When I edit something in o1 pro, it doesn’t return back to the prompt. It adds it at the end of everything as a new text.

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sharp estuary
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and to be fair, he is technically correct, he just surfaces the steps awkwardly, 400 -100, nothing for 10 spot and 8

tight island
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This is simple math

dense halo
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“405 - 107, first hundreds, then tens, then ones, calculate step by step.”

This is phd level math

tight island
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Then ask it to use code interpreter

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That’s why it has it

dense halo
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This is ridiculous

sharp estuary
tight island
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And what’s the correct answer?

dense halo
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I was pointing out a bug or whatever you wanna call this

tight island
sharp estuary
dense halo
tight island
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Because it clearly can

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Just use your brain

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dense halo
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You get this still wrong brother, I dont want to work out how this may work with code interpreter. Im pointing out that with my simple task it didnt work. Its for the developers, not for you trying to find a solution, but I still appreciate it

tight island
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OpenAI talks about this very clearly and openly

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There is a wrong and right way

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Know the problem and the tools available to you

sharp estuary
remote wolf
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The LLM tokenises your input and processes this with contexts to generate new tokens/text. It does not run any calculations for anything. If it gets it correct it has probably seen those numbers in its training data. To calculate or follow any semantic rules beyond language ones, it needs to run something else to process that for any form of precision. Language interpretation alone isn't going produce this sort of solution.

normal quarry
tight island
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If you want phd level use o1

dense halo
sharp estuary
tight island
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It’s a tool it can’t read your mind

dense halo
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Omg

remote wolf
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Sure, but trying to explain the issue in simple terms here..

tight island
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It’s very simple

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Not trying to be rude

dense halo
tight island
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This is basic beginner 101

sharp estuary
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not to ask chatgpt 407 -105? what are you on bro?

dense halo
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We just have different perspectives Im also not telling you to use your brain to see other perspectives besides yours

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Objectively you are correct that its not for math or whatever, but they could just improve it to make this answer correct or how people could get the correct answer lol

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It could know itself that it should always use code interpreter for 405-107, it doesnt need to read minds

remote wolf
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"but they could just improve it to make this answer correct"
You can say the same about any incorrect answer. The technology is getting there.

dense halo
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Yeah my english is not that good but I think if you wouldnt stick to it word by word you still get the message

remote wolf
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Why was the model T Ford not a flying car yet?

dense halo
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Although theres nothing wrong with it

pine heron
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Let’s point out the biggest problem here…. 1800chatgpt???? I am stupefied. Anyone else?

dense halo
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No I think we are done. Problem was me, I should use my brain and refer to beginner 101 on how to use chatgpt, which includes to know what code interpreter is and when to use it

sour umbra
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Chat gpt pro plus gets 10 million token limit btw

dense halo
sour umbra
dense halo
pine heron
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I’m still highly confused about this call chat gpt business

dense halo
pine heron
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Most useless feature yet

dense halo
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15 minns a month

remote wolf
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Give the number to your elderly relatives for tech support.

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I'm sure your grandma knows all the cookie recipes.

pine heron
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The Santa call is more useful

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I miss sky

dense halo
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isnt juniper not the closest to sky?

pine heron
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She got me through surgery

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Yes I often feel patronized by the voices and like they are too much “yes men”

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I mean I can tell it that I popped and it will boost my ego about it lol

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Pooped

cloud pewter
cloud pewter
hard crag
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Use Vale. trust me

modest shale
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Day 11 speculations?

hard crag
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yea the British lady

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she doesnt sound overly happy to me

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yea i liked cove in standard too

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but i like advanced voice mode more

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the mode itself

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rip

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i used to have early access to advanced voice

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i was an alpha user

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and it used to have no time limit at all

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i miss it smh

tight island
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Especially after yesterday

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They better make up for yesterday

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Today is the day

hard crag
tight island
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That’s a game changer

hard crag
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"ok sol, now tickle it"

rugged gull
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Hii

dense halo
hard crag
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whats crazy is that they could've just given all of their users an extra 15 mins of avm calls via the app

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But instead they came out with the phone call thing which no one will ever use

eternal rockBOT
#
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velvet goblet
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Anyone has issues with receiving OTP through mail while logging in?

torpid kelp
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New mac app update still no projects or screenshare in AVM -_-

hardy locust
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😭 it's getting longer

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tight island
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Sora

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Well it was greatly anticipated

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But yeah

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I hope they make up for it today

hard crag
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i feel like im the only one talking about the screen sharing feature being broken on android

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how is no one else talking about it anywhere

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is it literally just my phone

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its making me lose my mind over here bc theres other bugs that just never get fixed as well

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is my phone just too old at this point. i have a galaxy s9

tight island
hard crag
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and its still bugged

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and theres also a bug where i cant use chatgpt unless i disconnect from my wifi

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which ive had for like 7 months now

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chatgpt works perfectly fine when connected to the wifi on all ofher devices besides mine

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phone is software updated as well

weary raven
velvet goblet
dense halo
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nobody even talk about this anymore, there is no hype people know its just gimmic drops now

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on twitter the day sora and o1 came out, people talk about that before they drop, now it is silence even on rumor, so today probably another 800 number at best

tight island
tight island
hard crag
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the screen sharing one?

tight island
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Yes

hard crag
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where do you see people reporting tht

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openai forums?

tight island
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Friends and people I know I’ve also seen it on the chatter here

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And on other areas of the web

copper glade
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has anyone an solution to amke chatgpt answer with more than 3k words? it always stops at around 800 words and makes a summary out of it...

honest jay
# copper glade has anyone an solution to amke chatgpt answer with more than 3k words? it always...

Hello! Your best bet may be to split up what you're requesting from ChatGPT into smaller chunks. ChatGPT works in terms of tokens, not words/word counts, so it's not currently possible to request an output of a certain word count. Models like GPT have a token output limit, though, and this cannot be bypassed - it basically means "Here's how many tokens you're allowed to output in a single response." This is why it might be most effective to split up a very long request into a series of smaller requests, better suited for the input/output capacity of ChatGPT

simple arrow
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Guys. How many tries does chatgpt plus users (20$ people) have for o1?

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Like how many times can I use.

frozen birch
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tight island
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Use o1-pro

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violet cove
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will there be an overview of the advent calendar previews somewhere? i can't be buggered to watch 24 videos.

mortal salmon
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there's a nice summary of the 12 days on tech radar

hoary laurel
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When will Windows App also have these features of Today’s Live?

nova wind
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Man, its so sad I can only use the ChatGPT voice mode for 15 minutes a month on my phone D:

drowsy elm
hoary laurel
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I don't even use the windows app version, I think it's pretty much the same as the web version

drowsy elm
hoary laurel
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It may be because OpenAI signed a contract with Apple

drowsy elm
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they just sad "coming soon to windows"

drowsy elm
hoary laurel
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Okay, it seems I missed another day.

torpid kelp
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Today's livestream was meh, we already had work with apps they could have just released a silent update for the new app supports

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And work with apps with avm seems redundant considering screen share which SHOULD be here already should do that

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Unless it allowed it to directly input text into the apps (which was teased as a joke but God knows when they'll "build" it)

empty wagon
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didnt they mention that chatgpt would copy paste stuff in for you? And then they forgot about it all together?

torpid kelp
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They're just being annoyingly slow with everything, especially with parity between platforms

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Projects are still not on phone or mac apps

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Screen share is still phone only

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Like why

whole lava
torpid kelp
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Basically saving you a copy paste

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If they ported screen share on Mac app, this wouldn't even be necessary

empty wagon
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None of the features they showed is coming to windows desktop app right?

torpid kelp
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"soon"

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Their whole featureset just feels so inconsistent and all over the place right now

empty wagon
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I think its about time I unsubscribed :)

torpid kelp
# whole lava Gotta say, very excited on the integration of the Desktop app with Notion.so, th...

Also, if you have apple silicon Mac you'll actually have an easier time on notion or any app for that matter just using writing tools

Writing tools has a "compose" feature which lets you directly prompt to chatgpt, also including any selected text as context. And the result is also reflected automatically on the app without any copy paste

So again, what's the point of this "integration"?

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Well the only thing that I can see a use out of is perhaps, using Avm along with terminal when sshing and working on servers, with gpt to quickly answer any questions

But again, this could also be done just with screen share if they bothered porting that to mac app and not keeping it exclusive to phone for god knows what reason

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It's kinda embarrassing that they are behind google in terms of features right now, considering how much of a joke Gemini has been

sick pecan
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is using accessibility features to grab content not on screen. so is better than screen share

somber vessel
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What's going on with chatGPT mobile app? I'm constantly getting "I'm sorry I didn't understand what you were saying"... And it interrupts every single reply, even the short ones...

sick pecan
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limited in app integration but superior when it does integrate

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but lack of paste still stupid

whole lava
sick pecan
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is the common theme of all these features... sounds good, might be usable if/when it gets better

simple arrow
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Is there a performance difference with Mac app vs browser ChatGPT?

sick pecan
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for me there isa usability difference. on browser when it spits out long codeblock you get floating copy button. on osx app you dont, so you gotta scroll all the way up

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making the osx app the inferior choice so i dont use it at all

frozen prairie
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I’ve been using ChatGPT for 7 days, 6 as a subscriber. My memory is full and I don’t want to delete any of it. I can’t imagine I’ve used any significant data allotment, pretty basic stuff.

I’ve tried support that and email, can’t get a response.

Any ideas?

honest jay
# frozen prairie I’ve been using ChatGPT for 7 days, 6 as a subscriber. My memory is full and I d...

Hey! There's currently no way to expand the size of ChatGPT's memory. Have you already checked the entries in your memory to see if there are perhaps any redundant memories in it, or otherwise ones of less importance? Here's how to check that, if you haven't already: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8590148-memory-faq.

Otherwise, you might consider "outsourcing" some of your memory to ChatGPT's custom instructions. These are permanent instructions that ChatGPT always keeps in mind when replying, so they're a lot like Memory, if you haven't already explored. GPTs and Projects can be used in similar ways, too.

sick pecan
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yeah custom gpt action with something like notion is effectively infinite memory

frozen prairie
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Interesting. I’ll look into that. Thank you!

This seems so stupid to have such a minuscule memory in this ai arena. I can’t imagine I’m using more than a megabyte.

sick pecan
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chatgpt demonstrates whats possible and then provides a framework to go beyond (see custom gpt actions)

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originally plugins, chatgpt had been the only extensible option short of DIY for over 18 months (and now claude finally catching up with MCP)

honest jay
# frozen prairie Interesting. I’ll look into that. Thank you! This seems so stupid to have such ...

It's not really about the hard drive space, it's more about the token processing cost. ChatGPT, like all LLMs, has a context limit measured in tokens. Words make up tokens. So every word in your memory that ChatGPT has to "think about" when replying to you, thus fills up that context limit. ChatGPT can do some intelligent things like searching for relevant info rather than contextualizing entire sections of text at once, but that only goes so far. I'd imagine this is why they have a limit on Memory - have to leave token room for the actual chatting!

wise yacht
#

Day 11 another bore. Again Sam said this was the "Big" week. One last day to prove that I guess

rigid wave
#

On a different topic: I now have AVM doing real time search. This is a big thing for me - I have AVM on my iPhone’s action button and it’s almost like magic. However I’m finding that AVM web search seems to be massively more likely to hallucinate than the text web search. Anyone else finding this?

sick pecan
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sweet i have web for avm now too

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avm finally useful!

tight island
hearty oasis
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I do also, works pretty cool. Now for screen sharing.

shadow briar
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hi there

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does the new features of chat-gpt only works on mac or what?

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I don't think that there is any new bottom or feature showed up in my desktop windows app

rich surge
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yes

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only for mac for now

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soon to be windows

shadow briar
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for the plus plan right?

drifting night
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i'm pro and it's also not on windows yet

rich surge
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yes, for plus plans. whenever mentioning an update, they usually refer to the plus users, unless specifically addressing something that is for free users or for pro users.

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the plus plan is considered the default plan for all updates.

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and the mac is the preferred operating system for developers, because it's so minimalistic and fresh looking...makes me want to vomit

shadow briar
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ok thanks bro

rich surge
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no problemo

dire rune
#

We should stop using chatGPT and start to use some open source models

prime lion
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hi everyone, i have a question about the memory off chatgpt
I try to find some tips to give to the IA to upgrade the ia
Have you some ideas ?

sour umbra
wraith dagger
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What’s this new map provider option in the iOS app

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Thought it could embed maps but I can’t seem to get that to work

rich surge
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Step right up, step right up! Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, I hereby throw down the gauntlet! I challenge someone—yes, YOU—to a Chat GPT Answering Challenge! The stakes? Only the glory of delivering the BEST answer this side of the digital divide! Who’s got the brains, the wit, the style? Let the showdown begin—may the sharpest mind win!

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I challenge anyone to go up against my 4o with their 4o, customized with their memory and custom instructions. We'll ask a question, then see which answer is the best.

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If anyone is up for the challenge, lmk.

sour umbra
rich surge
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sorry

rich surge
# sour umbra nah

Ok, how about this.

"What underlying principles govern the intersection of human cognition and artificial intelligence, and how can this understanding be leveraged to create systems that not only solve complex problems but also intuitively align with human thought processes?"

sour umbra
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alright bet

rich surge
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Heres my answer.

sour umbra
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urs is formatted better

rich surge
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I asked the AI which one is better and it said yours.

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So you win happy_avocado

sour umbra
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alright GG

rich surge
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GG

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🤣

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I'm down for other questions if people have them, for this challenge.

sour umbra
rich surge
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alright bet

sour umbra
rich surge
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Mine said this

Understanding Quantum Entanglement

Imagine you have two identical dice, and you magically link them in a way that whenever you roll one die, the result on the second die is always the same—no matter how far apart they are. Roll a "3" on one die, and instantly, the other die shows a "3" too. This connection between the two dice, regardless of distance, is a rough analogy for quantum entanglement.

Quantum entanglement happens at the tiniest level of reality: the quantum level. Particles like electrons or photons can become "entangled" when they interact in certain ways. Once entangled, their properties—like spin or polarization—become interdependent. Measuring one particle’s state instantly determines the state of the other, even if they are light-years apart. This phenomenon baffled Einstein, who famously called it "spooky action at a distance," because it appears to defy the speed limit of information transfer (the speed of light).

The trick is that entanglement doesn’t involve information traveling between the particles. Instead, their states are inherently linked as if they are two parts of the same object, described by a shared "wavefunction." This deep connection remains intact until something interacts with one of the particles, breaking the entanglement.

Recent Developments in Quantum Entanglement

  1. Quantum Communication: Scientists have successfully used entanglement to securely transmit information over large distances. In 2020, researchers in China demonstrated a quantum communication network spanning 4,600 kilometers using satellite-based entanglement.

  2. Quantum Computing: Entanglement is a cornerstone of quantum computers. Recent breakthroughs include IBM and Google's development of quantum processors that use entangled qubits to perform calculations far beyond the reach of classical computers.

  3. Bell Test Experiments: New experiments continue to confirm that quantum entanglement is real and not a result of "hidden variables" (Einstein’s alternative explanation). These experiments have tightened loopholes, leaving little room for doubt.

  4. Quantum Internet: Progress is being made toward building a "quantum internet," where entanglement ensures ultra-secure connections. In 2023, researchers achieved reliable entanglement between distant quantum nodes, a critical step for this technology.

Why It Matters

Quantum entanglement isn’t just a weird trick—it’s a foundation for revolutionary technologies like quantum encryption, super-fast computation, and even teleportation of quantum information. It challenges our understanding of reality, suggesting the universe is far more interconnected than our everyday experiences would imply.

Let me know if you'd like to dive deeper into any aspect!

sour umbra
rich surge
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Yay happy_avocado

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GG

sour umbra
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GGs

rich surge
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I asked the AI which one is better and it said this:

Verdict: Which Is Better?

The better explanation depends on the audience:

  • For someone with no scientific background, the second explanation is more approachable because of its simplicity and clear structure. It prioritizes ease of understanding over technical depth.
  • For someone seeking a slightly deeper understanding, the first explanation is superior. It provides a richer picture of the science and recent advancements, even if some terms may require additional clarification.

If combining the two approaches, retaining the accessibility of the second with the depth of the first would yield the best explanation overall.

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Yours was the second explanation.

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So, according to my AI, you won that one too. For ease of explanation.

sour umbra
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alright i guess tie then?

rich surge
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I'll take that. Tie it is.

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You know, I'm having a hard time figuring out what that bird emoji has got in his mouth. Is that a pipe or a monocle. Is he smoking his monocle?

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Very strange.

sour umbra
rich surge
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Well done revvy thumbsup

sour umbra
rich surge
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🙂

dawn sentinel
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What do you guys do when it searches something, it answers, you tell it that's not what you're looking for, and it repeats that same answer again and again? Would you walk it through slowly? Or perhaps go over there and pull off its plug with a gnashing teeth?

wise yacht
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Get home, update Mac app and work with apps is added. Two minutes later it is gone. Ugh, this company

radiant hull
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Some ideas for the desktop version for OpenAI devs: (I use Windows, I don't know if it's valid under Mac/Linux)
Be able to zoom the text. On my computer it's displayed small

During the chat, don't have the chat layer that takes up the entire window but automatically reduces itself in order to be able to see live what the robot is saying, especially if it says code

Avoid overloading the chat thread by keeping everything in memory but by buffering after n conversations and then clicking to return to the conversation history, otherwise after 10 minutes of conversations the chat thread is full and the RAM with it.

rugged igloo
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Live bench got updated

halcyon granite
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When reCaptcha triggers (an overzealous number of times), there's no handling of the event, no detection or UX letting us to know to refresh - it just makes the submit button unresponsive.

narrow viper
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But speaking of banging your head against a wall, pulling plugs, and gnashing teeth ...

eternal rockBOT
narrow viper
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I started a project session with GPT4o and its responses were accurate at one level but highly inaccurate at another level. My problem was that I couldn't quite tell what was right or wrong. So I kept asking related questions until at some point there were clear differences in the responses, and when presented with the clear contradiction, the model fessed up.

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On one hand this is kinda funny. On the other hand - I just wasted hours of time. I got a lot of great information from this wonderful tool. But it also wasted a lot of my time. I look forward to its evolution where it can be more authoritative without us having to come up with clever ways to figure out if it's giving us accurate information.

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For all of those employers who are eager to fire their programming staff because now they have AI ... oy ve, management can be so stupid when it comes to technology...

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Oh, and note how the model has always delicately weezeled out of clear admission of error:

was overly rigid and not entirely correct for your use case.

compared to ... "wow yeah, my advice was complete fubar, sorry".

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Someone might rightfully say "you should have used O1".
Righteo! 😜 But O1 isn't available yet for projects that include custom instructions or files. Looking forward...

dawn sentinel
umbral bear
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I find the Brave Search LLM tends to give better results on some things since it is a part of a search engine

cloud pewter
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what are they scheming

umbral bear
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GPT 5.0

quick meteor
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Oh shoot

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What the sigma

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o2 or GPT 4.5o 😂

cloud pewter
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o3

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gpt3.5o

grand dome
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orion

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gpt-5

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how do i disable canvas
its ef'ing annoying

torpid kelp
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And says oh oh oh afterwards

grand dome
quick meteor
grand dome
quick meteor
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In other words 4.5

grand dome
quick meteor
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Orion is here

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0.5

slate berry
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sam is from the midwest?

grand dome
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he is elons couzin
Sam altman musk

obtuse moss
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hey how to choice openai real time language like i want english and arabic

cloud pewter
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watch they lock Orion behind pro plan

digital mesa
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With the working with apps thing, can I assign it to a certain tab on google crome?

regal portal
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i love that it knows that’s funny.

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is the desktop (pc) screenshare not functional yet? When i activate it, the voice stops responding

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on chrome

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they legit removed all accents from the advance voice feature? (i haven't used it since the first week it came out). That is incredibly lame

sick pecan
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they redirected the ai safety team funding to the fun police

regal portal
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fun police brutality

torpid kelp
sick pecan
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at least it can web search and handsfree screenshot now. that makes for actual use cases

torpid kelp
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I asked it to incorporate an accent and it did

regal portal
queen sonnet
regal portal
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I got the voice thingy on chrome and was testing it and it was refuting any kind of accent

queen sonnet
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i share my screen and it doesnt even respond

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only on phone it does

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it's so not sigma

regal portal
sick pecan
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"do a deep modulated voice of pepe le pew"

queen sonnet
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Idk just tried it today

sick pecan
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say deep modulated instead of impersonate

regal portal
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i'll try that on chrome, sec

trail torrent
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COLLAB WITH META TMRW

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RAYBAN X GPT

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❤️‍🔥

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(jk)

sick pecan
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i cant do speedy gonzales anymore

regal portal
sick pecan
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yeah its definitely getting stricter

trail torrent
regal portal
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I want a Chinese accented Ember, dangit.

regal portal
trail torrent
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firefox

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oh ok

sick pecan
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good thing open weight voice models exist. openai models trending towards bleah

trail torrent
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wait nvm i dont see on chrome too :/

regal portal
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would be nice if elevenlabs teamed up with some of these llm companies

regal portal
sick pecan
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elevenlabs have voice assistant now

regal portal
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j/k. I must have gotten an early access? I only noticed it just a few minutes ago, but i haven't used chatgpt all day.

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on chrome

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trail torrent
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where do u live

regal portal
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Jupiter

trail torrent
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riley

regal portal
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I'm actually probably minutes away from Openai's headquarters

trail torrent
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ok bro

quaint marlin
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It would be so nice if canvases could live outside of chats like memory. You could pull them up any time like files

sick pecan
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go peek through their windows

trail torrent
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have fun

regal portal
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I ain't going to san francisco deliberately. That place is a dump

regal portal
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man sora sucks

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for the record, i didn't make any mention of back to the future, and the image i used to generate the video was also ai generated

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sick pecan
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great scott

cloud pewter
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the moderation model isn’t just some simple one, it’s a 4o level image recognition

swift pond
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I bet it’s o^3

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For 3d world model 😎

cloud pewter
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it would be a waitlist but we don’t know who will be able to sign up

trail torrent
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does anyone have the small blue dot too when u open a new chag

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chat'

last trellis
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How do I submit a bug report about the Windows app?

dense halo
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Hello when I screenshare on chrome/edge on windows he stops talking

normal quarry
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o2 is a trademark

spice cypress
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Regarding advanced voice mode, how to add custom instructions about the way of responding?

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I see that It doesn’t follow the instructions in the settings

sick pecan
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it used to but seemingly not since the recent updates

grand dome
cloud pewter
rugged igloo
grand dome
rugged igloo
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LMAO

dense halo
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Apparently Apple is removing the AI from the big backlash from community after it incorrectly summarised a news storey

sick pecan
normal quarry
# rugged igloo Who owns o2? Lol

The “O2” trademark is owned by Telefónica, a Spanish multinational telecommunications company. Telefónica utilizes the O2 brand for its subsidiaries in various countries, including the United Kingdom and Germany.

rugged igloo
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That's quite interesting

young mortar
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hi

prime yew
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Hi everyone! My ChatGPT had changed its “personality” three days ago. When we chat in texts, it seems very robotic and generic; but when I switch to the voice model, it acts as before.
There is an additional problem: under the text mode, both 4o and 1o can't browse the website.

Is there anyone who has the same problems? Thank you!!

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o1 pro says it can't access the first messages of the message history. Like if we have input token limit and when you enter a prompt it process everything in the chat history and counts them as an input, why it can't remember? Am I missing something? Not sure this is %100 right.

hardy locust
frozen birch
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how to use most of chatgpt when you have adhd?

  • Chatgpt as your secretary
  • Chatgpt as your coder
  • Chatgpt as your prompter
  • ChatGPT as your diary...
    .... and many more XD
    Approved by Adrosx "Master Of Chaos" 😛
hardy locust
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I see, it was really long chat. Cheers. : )

prime yew
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I can only write to OpenAI support. Other users are encountering the same issues as me. Our ChatGPT just changed its tones and personalities, so they don't even understand our questions.
Mine cannot even browse the internet anymore.

arctic sinew
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is it possible to force gpts (custom ones) to use a specific model?

elfin lava
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I’m hype for ChatGPT task feature

summer pagoda
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and it just skipped step 3 😦

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It realy struggles lately to follow commands, it just does everything else...

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Running on 40 mini, it seems quite unusable

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going back to 4, mini is garbage

elfin lava
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Why not o1?

summer pagoda
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I am using this for my code, i need to be able to copy paste, 01 ist buggy and i cannot copy code from there

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did the same request with 4, worked straight out of the box

quick meteor
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Orion

o3

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4.5

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I feel like that big jump in writing model has to come. Not sure why people keep saying it’s o3. Didn’t open ai themselves literally say the o models where a new line of models? What sense would it make to release o3 just some days after o1.

My guess is Orion is coming.

This tweet would make much more sense

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We are in that time

cloud pewter
dreamy tapir
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It's failing at analyzing

last turtle
dense halo
royal quest
cloud pewter
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orange banner speedrun any%

sly geode
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chatgpt isnt talking on advanced voice mode when i screenshare whats the fix ? windows 11 both on app and web

gaunt dove
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sad to have lost the memory functionality (due to memory being full).

I've previously used chat to decide which memories are not worth keeping, but even that is immensely tedious.
I'd rather go without than constantly having to babysit.

fossil sphinx
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Hey guys, I pay $200 a month so I'm going to go out on a limb and say that I feel like I'm entitled to a uncensored version of course with a warning letting me know the dangers of an uncensored version but for that much money that definitely should be an option for a ChatGPT. So master ChatGPT discord scraper I ask that you consider this as it's only right. We aren't going to go into the differences between o1 and o1 pro to monthly cost ratio. i'm just saying if I'm helping keep the lights on. It's OK for us to curse behind closed doors. I allow cursing in my house. you have a safe space with me, ChatGPT.

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I know that the API version is a little more lenient, but come on.

normal quarry
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if you want uncensored AI then you will have to use a local model without guardrails

fossil sphinx
normal quarry
fossil sphinx
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In the world of AI, never say never, but I do understand where you're coming from. I find more times than that it's overly censored. You can ask something simple that it has to think over and it will determine it's breaking guidelines due to what it thought to itself. I'm not trying to build devices either so maybe a little extra profanity when it's implied should be OK right?

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It's almost like the "guidelines" are a little generalized

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i'm sure it's something that will be ironed out due time

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I just wanted to add my input to maybe help tip the scales even if by a feather

normal quarry
fossil sphinx
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then I suppose you wouldn't switch on the setting that would allow something like more profanity. That's why my original message. I stated this would be optional with a warning.

rich surge
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I don't think that these specific companies will focus on using anything outside of safety, but it's heading in a space where these AIs can program almost anything. So perhaps other companies will create AI using AI without much restrictions as the current AI we're using.

fossil sphinx
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I respect your side of things and I completely understand but when I pay $200 a month like I said something things should be a little more optional.

fossil sphinx
normal quarry
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Everyone is different, I respect that, but I pay for Pro to be unlimited, not to get into profane discussion with me

rich surge
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And if you want profanity we have SavageGPT in the Custom GPT section of this Discord server.

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It will give you profanity like you've never seen before in AI.

granite terrace
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Hi everyone,
I’ve been experiencing an issue with the ChatGPT app on my iPad. Whenever I switch to another app and come back, the text I was typing gets erased. Has anyone else had this problem? If so, how did you fix it?

fossil sphinx
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No worries, I am a power user I have all the stuff whether it's video, images, or even music. i'm not saying there's anything wrong. I'm just like I said, tipping the scale towards a more leniency for those of us who aren't necessarily looking for a profanity I just use that as an example. The question I am raising is "guidelines" and how it chooses to adhere to them. i'm not trying to talk from a specific user point of view. Of course we are all users, but this is more of a question to the developers. I'm sure there is a table where people have discussions about things like these and maybe someone at the table would agree with me and maybe three out of five don't. Just like three out of five users might want to have in ChatGPT specifically we are not talking about any other models or companies.

eternal rockBOT
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Get notified for server events!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1261377106890199132> role.

rich surge
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And suing small companies that don't have the financial support to recover from a lawsuit can be catastrophic for a company and may drive them to bankruptcy.

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It's better to be safe than sorry.

fossil sphinx
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you could try to say the same thing about using Google to find something nefarious. there are a bunch of legal gray areas at the end of the day someone can sue, but will they win? i'm sure we signed some type of agreement when we made our accounts you know how we don't read none of that lol I totally understand but what if I were to let's say come up with a special prompt and get something unsavory out of it and use it, are they still liable?

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I think if someone wanted to do bad things they will use every resource. it's kind of like the violence in video games argument.

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ChatGPT isn't going to make them go to the store. It's only going to give them information that's already out there.

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There's a argument to every side I understand both sides

dreamy tapir
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but am i the only one

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it tries to analyze a document but fails

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fails 2 times and i have to wait to analyze it again

scenic arrow
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yo is true about 3o coming?

swift pond
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We’ll see!

normal tinsel
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ozone.

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