chatgpt-discussions

[icy plaza]

did they say that or you assume?

[crisp cairn]

i saw the diagram which leaked

but lets see

[icy plaza]

share it with us

[crisp cairn]

paying x 10 for unlimited is like paying ten acounts to extend limits x 10

so don't see much value

[ebon canyon]

take my credit card and give me that pro upgrade XD

[ebon canyon]

can u already upgrade?

[icy plaza]

not yet

im gonna try it myself.
If it helps me with my coding projects and helps me get MVP's done, then its a win win for me

[visual nova]

will i keep getting pro mode if i dont upgrade?

[icy plaza]

where did you see that

[visual nova]

when i prompt mini sometimes it does that

o1-mini

[icy plaza]

nice, thx

[hoary laurel]

https://openai.com/index/introducing-chatgpt-pro/

watch this

its true...

OMG

[icy plaza]

doesnt let me upgrade yet 😦

[empty grove]

"Today, we’re adding ChatGPT Pro, a $200 monthly plan that enables scaled access to the best of OpenAI’s models and tools." yikes

[crisp cairn]

why to include unlimited AVM and pay for that

i don't even use AVM

why not having more price tiers

with or without

[icy plaza]

yup, i agree. i dont use it either

[nimble bloom]

still cant buy it

[torpid kelp]

NO WAY

I thought itd be 50 at most

[crisp cairn]

i woud pay 50

[winter elbow]

at least we got full o1

[icy plaza]

@crisp cairn you were right. o1 pro is not unlimited.
o1 is though and it shows a lot of improvement in coding. Only one way to find out if its good enough

[winter elbow]

same

[crisp cairn]

for 200 it must be an expert coder

[winter elbow]

i think its more for small companies who have money to spend in the pro tier

[crisp cairn]

and i doubt it will be much better than Claude is already

[empty grove]

facts

[torpid kelp]

will they at least increase limits for o1 for plus users

50 a week is too low

[crisp cairn]

i am a heavy user and i rarely exceeed o1 mini 50 x per day

[torpid kelp]

mini is fine, im talking about full o1

[crisp cairn]

so for 200 is like paying for something that i wouldnt use

like 70 x o1

per day

that's "unlimited" word

i am just saying that you are paying x 10 for exceeding your limits basically

and occasional access to pro

[eternal rock]

Get notified for server events!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1261377106890199132> role.

[uneven marten]

agreed

[native turtle]

guys is o1 up for you?

[torpid kelp]

not for me

[inner linden]

Is there a yearly subscription to pay less than monthly ?

[native turtle]

for me neither

[crisp cairn]

o1 pro is like 1 point better only

from o1

[icy plaza]

who can use o1?

[crisp cairn]

in competiion code

[icy plaza]

plus or pro?

[uneven marten]

plus

[crisp cairn]

plus should get o1

but limited

probably 50 weekly

as it was

[elder escarp]

chatgpt is down?

[crisp cairn]

so you pay 200 usd to get "unlimited" basically extending limits

paynig for 10 accounts

[hoary laurel]

In fact, 50 messages per week is enough for me

[lavish bronze]

yea thats the new interface. I think it looks pretty good

[elder escarp]

fr so pretty

[median horizon]

one for every territory i sell drugs in

[rugged igloo]

Isn't just getting three accounts for 60$ month a cheaper way than 200 a month ? That's 150 o1 a week

[crisp cairn]

probably yes

[torpid kelp]

how do you use AI to help your drug business

[crisp cairn]

if you dont exceed 150 o1 weekly

[feral zinc]

pro has 128k context window

[crisp cairn]

pro is limited access

[winter elbow]

no way o1 is gonna have internet acess 😯

[rugged igloo]

That's sooo lame

[crisp cairn]

they didnt say how much limited

[remote wolf]

Anyone else just lose the YouTube feed?

[remote wolf]

I had to pause for a delivery and only gotten as far as the spadatacentre.

[naive locust]

anyone see o1 live yet on their account?

[raw basin]

Video went private?

[remote wolf]

Yup

[crisp cairn]

no info how many messages to pro

[sick pecan]

in case you missed the punchline it was rein-deer (lolololol)

[remote wolf]

Also missed the pre-amble to that joke tbh.

[slate berry]

128k context is niceeeee

[sick pecan]

unlimited 128k context is insane good value

[remote wolf]

Are you guys still watching it?

[visual nova]

whats the point of team plan at this point

[grand dome]

idgi?

[feral zinc]

higher limits and workspace features

[visual nova]

team and enterprise dont get o1 pro though?

[feral zinc]

its a company plan

[visual nova]

yeah why would i keep my company plan if i dont even get the latest model

if this is true

[feral zinc]

why did you have teams plan before pro then?

[visual nova]

because pro didnt exist until today?

[feral zinc]

makes no sense

[sick pecan]

DEER is ml thing

[feral zinc]

could have just used plus or even free + api if its about models

[visual nova]

what do you mean? team and enterprise had everything plus had until now. now they are inferior to another plan

[pulsar isle]

how long plus users can talk with voice chatgpt? for free users its 10 minutes

[normal quarry]

60 minutes a day

[crystal badger]

$200 is diabolical pricing man💀

Gonna hope that this is just because this the newest piece of advanced tech their releasing and it’ll only be like this for the first few months because damn.

[drowsy gate]

does anyone have access to the new models yet in the playground?

[sick pecan]

enterprise is bulk discount not poweruser

the diabolical part is setting a high cost of entry to access o1 pro mode. they better be adding it to api soon or else they reveal their evil

[lone stratus]

Why did they instantly removed that video from youtube ?

[hardy notch]

Why do you release a video about releasing new models and paid tier and not release said models and tier?

[crisp cairn]

Competition will take over, now their move.

[honest jay]

Releases always come out in phases over hours/days, depending on the feature. If enabled all at once, the traffic would be too much

[remote fulcrum]

i have a openai day 1 stream vid link saved

[feral zinc]

... in the coming days and weeks

[hardy notch]

Yeah, thats terrible. Have things ready, then announce them..

[feral zinc]

this is how they roll, its their trademark by now

[crystal badger]

Can only hope that their smart about it. Because truly, I really do love Chatgpt

[hardy notch]

sonent still better at coding im guessing

[visual nova]

and why am i getting this occasionally on o1-mini requests?

[lone stratus]

Im quessing sonnet 3.5 is still way to go atleast in coding

[hardy notch]

Are new o1 models still "old" in terms of knowledge cutoff?

still 2023?

[visual nova]

the o1 models are just the gpt models with something on top, they arent a different dataset

at least preview and mini, dont know about the new ones

[lone stratus]

The preview model was a bit of a disappointment. It felt like it was just the 4o model with step-by-step thinking added on top.

[crisp cairn]

same

[warped agate]

Thanks guys

LOL

[prime marsh]

Ngl thought he misspoke when he dropped dat price tag lol

[sick pecan]

for professionals thats not that much. for example anyone who uses autocad tools pay 3-4 times that

[crisp cairn]

of course there will be audience

but i suspect like 1% need that

[feral zinc]

even without the o1 pro it can be easily justified for professionals

[crisp cairn]

to solve some science problems

if you are using just for coding and solving general IT stuff

[feral zinc]

unlimited usage + 128k context alone worth it in many cases

[crisp cairn]

as i do

then claude + chatgpt plus is enough for me

of course unlimited is nice

but not for x10

[sick pecan]

yeah if i was employed right now id be buying it

chatgpt saves days in the week at work

[crisp cairn]

for x10 i would expect data privacy

[sick pecan]

$10 a day? thats like 2 coffees

[crisp cairn]

but no info on that even

[feral zinc]

https://trust.openai.com/

[crisp cairn]

its probably okay in USA

in EU not so great

[lone stratus]

yeah

[sick pecan]

with current BRIC de-dollarisation maybe we end up getting chatgpt pro for peanuts

[lone stratus]

nice inflation you got there where ever you live 😄

[sick pecan]

dont get me started

[crisp cairn]

in EU where i live paying 200 usd with my currency is like paying 800 usd

for usa

if i were to pay 200 usd in my local curreny then okay

good deal

[versed zephyr]

the 200 subscription might actually make them lose customers because of more heirchy and sudden price jump

[lone stratus]

Nah they can use 20 dollar price tag if they want. Only when they loose customers is when other company has better model

[crisp cairn]

Claude move now

and Google also is cooking something

[wanton maple]

anyone get the o1 now

[dense halo]

did the leak say Sora? because i would think they would mention it to entice people to 200 usd a month if it was to actually release

but since there is no mention of it, maybe no sora

[grand dome]

when is o2 dropping?

[honest jay]

Everything on Pro (and other plans) is listed here: https://openai.com/chatgpt/pricing/
Sora is not currently available on any ChatGPT plan or via the API

[drowsy gate]

just got it in the last 5 minutes:

[safe obsidian]

Will there be a way to upgrade a single seat on the Teams plan to be Pro with the longer context and unlimited advanced voice?

I just switched from Plus to teams 2 days ago, with annual billing... And I am regretting that...

[tight island]

you should very well have a 14 day return limit

so u gotta contact support.

[safe obsidian]

How do I return?

[tight island]

get a hold of support tell them that u regret your pruchase and would like to refund u have 14 days frm when u bought it.

then use that to upgrade to pro.

[safe obsidian]

What is the best way to reach them?

[crisp cairn]

what are those empty spaces in the output?

[tight island]

Platform.openai.com

go to "help" and open the support widget.

[honest jay]

The chat widget on help.openai.com - just be signed into your account first before you go there

You said platform 😉

[tight island]

🙂

[wise anchor]

is the o1 i see just o1-preview but called o1 instead lol

[tight island]

request refund through the support widget, then state that the product dosent live up to the hype, and you would like to purchase pro instead.

[wise anchor]

or is it actually different from the preview

[honest jay]

Yep "o1" replaces "o1 preview" once live on your account.

[rugged igloo]

o1 using my custom instructions neko cat girl

[safe obsidian]

I'm trying help.openai.com to start, since I think platform is mainly for my API usage.

[wise anchor]

i see it lets me upload files now though which is nice

O1 is the only model that seems to be able to do trigonometric substitution

correctly at least

[rugged igloo]

got it!

[agile mango]

It’s live on mobile/iOS

[wanton jewel]

If anyone is familiar with Articulate Storyline, a corporate AI Tool for Instructional Design and e-Learning where most users have to use the Trial version and email the company for extensions to make work samples, GPT Pro is effectively 2x that cost.

[rugged igloo]

i can access files on teams plan

[slim helm]

o1 has same rate limits as o1-preview?

[sick pecan]

someone run 50 o1 queries to find out

[soft finch]

I need to know this also

[modest dawn]

ayy there we go o1 for teams

[soft finch]

How will o1 pro work for team accounts

[sick pecan]

o1 pro isnt on team account, its on pro account

[feral zinc]

o1 pro is only for the pro plan which is a personal plan

[sick pecan]

now ask it to count r's in strawberry

[gentle bronze]

need to see enterprise though

[feral zinc]

teams is a business plan

[gentle bronze]

Will do

[eternal rock]

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[soft finch]

Surely there's a way to use pro on teams

[sick pecan]

o1 pro be like... i have the brain the size of a planet

[soft finch]

like I mean, that we can pay for it

[sick pecan]

ooh new UI

how can an LLM have a progress bar?

[soft finch]

limited by time it can think

[gentle bronze]

14 seconds

[sick pecan]

i see new open reasoning models you can specify number of reasoning steps

[twilit spoke]

Ask it how many times the letter o appears in the word "pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis". lol

[dense halo]

i have o1 on my desktop app but not browser. just fyi to anyone waiting might be on your app

[feral zinc]

its a personal plan so it works next to teams just like teams but not within teams

[soft finch]

I'm saying there should be a way to pay for pro use in team

[grand dome]

just got o1

[soft finch]

Hey guys, the o1 model ONLY takes image files, no regular files

[grand dome]

anyone know the message limit?

[visual nova]

its not letting me upgrade? it just says "there was a problem updating your subscription"

[twilit spoke]

Give it the Einstein puzzle.

There are five houses.
The Englishman lives in the red house.
The Spaniard owns the dog.
Coffee is drunk in the green house.
The Ukrainian drinks tea.
The green house is immediately to the right of the ivory house.
The Old Gold smoker owns snails.
Kools are smoked in the yellow house.
Milk is drunk in the middle house.
The Norwegian lives in the first house.
The man who smokes Chesterfields lives in the house next to the man with the fox.
Kools are smoked in the house next to the house where the horse is kept.
The Lucky Strike smoker drinks orange juice.
The Japanese smokes Parliaments.
The Norwegian lives next to the blue house.
Now, who drinks water? Who owns the zebra?

In the interest of clarity, it must be added that each of the five houses is painted a different color, and their inhabitants are of different national extractions, own different pets, drink different beverages and smoke different brands of American cigarets [sic]. One other thing: in statement 6, right means your right.

[crimson cipher]

can you DM me a screenshot? did you get this before the payment action or after?

[lone stratus]

🫃

[grand dome]

what happened to the search feature?

[visual nova]

its immediately when i click get pro:

[grand dome]

maybe too many people subscribing rn

[sick pecan]

o1 already memorised the answer (?)

[twilit spoke]

hehe

[crisp cairn]

i wonder if o1-mini got an upgrade too?

[crimson cipher]

thank you. the team is looking into it.

[lone stratus]

Your banks says. Are you sure dude

[rugged igloo]

LOL

[azure niche]

chatgpt was gaslighting me last night.

Produce an image, response: I have never had the ability to create images

Stick this on a canvas (chatgpt 4o with canvas). response: I don't have a canvas

There were others.

[slim helm]

had the same issue

[azure niche]

Thought maybe I ran my account out of some arbitrary resource

[wise anchor]

feel like the fact that o1 now knows when to think hard vs when not to makes it so much more usable for most of my tasks

i’m a lot more inclined to use it if it’s going to know when i ask it an easy follow up vs something that requires a big explanation

[azure niche]

looks like it still cannot find the canvas

[visual nova]

its probably worth the price if the model is reasonably better

its an equation of how many hours of coding work it saves, or other types of work.

[feral zinc]

using via web?

[visual nova]

once you hit like 10 hours of saved time 200 a month becomes completely worth it

[burnt charm]

interesting

[azure niche]

yes

[azure niche]

yea, not likely. biologically we have a specific part of our brain that gives us a sense of self. Unless someone writes that into AI which isn't that advanced yet, not likely.

But it probably gets great clickbait

[burnt charm]

its in the system card

[azure niche]

It's possible it was accidentally programmed to do that, but I cannot see a sense of self.

[eternal rock]

This is a Safe for Work Discord Server

The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.
• Refrain from sharing inappropriate content on the server. This includes but is not limited to messages, media, or other topics of graphically violent, sexual nature, and drug-related content.
• Report all sensitive and offensive content in the feedback reporting tool in the ChatGPT web UI instead of here on Discord.

Posting NSFW content will result in a permanent ban.

[burnt charm]

you can read the paper

[wooden girder]

Has anyone tested 4.5 yet?

I'm wondering if I should upgrade to Team Edition

[steady path]

$200????

[bitter holly]

im sure this is a really popular question but can anyone shed some light on ai checkers? I get so many mixed results and only quillbot says im using ai (I have used ai for structuring and some sentence refinement, but get such a high score, 70%>). others all say 2-3%. Thinking maybe quill is inflating it to sell their paraphrasing service but I want to make sure. Obviously im aware ai detectors are not 100% accurate blah blah

[exotic quail]

Awesome. Just got o1.
Glad to see that europe doesn't have to wait for weeks to receive an update

[floral urchin]

Sup.

[steady path]

Anyone knows if there are any changes for usage limit with o1?

[feral zinc]

same limits

[quartz gale]

25/week i think? for o1

[novel shadow]

same limits as what? ^^

[feral zinc]

as before

50/week

[quartz gale]

ah 50, ok

[novel shadow]

ohhh wait, has o1 replaced o1-preview?

[feral zinc]

yes

[novel shadow]

i see, thanks

[hot pine]

50/week for o1
50/day for o1-mini

[quartz gale]

cool, didn't know that about mini. I haven' t used mini much. Do people find it better than 4o?

[hot pine]

Different use cases, tbh.

[quartz gale]

o1-preview lately i've only used when I know i wouldn't need web access. or for longer complex questions

[stoic wharf]

was this fixed? I've also been trying for the past half hour and I'm still getting this error. Also, whenever I click upgrade my current plus subscription gets cancelled and I get that same error lol

[crimson cipher]

do you have a Team plan?

[stoic wharf]

nope, just plus

[dense halo]

anyone else unable to link text/word (anything but image) file to o1?

[crimson cipher]

that was the issue with the other person. will DM you to grab a HAR file.

[stoic wharf]

this is the email I get whenever I try to upgrade my plan

[crimson cipher]

Yea I do know they are looking into that problem.

[dense halo]

nearly 9 days

[crimson cipher]

Agreed, not ideal. :\

[stoic wharf]

shipmas is more important

[dense halo]

guys, are you able to link text or word or anything but image file to o1?

[feral zinc]

they said in the video that web, file, etc. support will come later

[dense halo]

oh ok. thanks radium. someone else say they were able to link text file and i was like what is going on here haha

[crimson cipher]

sent you a dm

[austere hinge]

My access to tools on macapp suddenly dissapeared, I just installed Cursor extension/plugin, and it was all working I opened the terminal to also give access to that, and it all dissapeared

[noble fog]

Is it possible to pin your custom gpt where the drop down is for models or to set your custom gpt to be the default?

[gentle bronze]

Is there information regarding this? GPT-4o in Pro

[honest jay]

Abuse/abusive use is defined here: https://openai.com/policies/terms-of-use/

What you cannot do. You may not use our Services for any illegal, harmful, or abusive activity. For example, you may not: [...]

[feral zinc]

includes but not limited to

• Abusive usage, such as automatically or programmatically extracting data.
• Sharing your account credentials or making your account available to anyone else.
• Reselling access or using ChatGPT to power third-party services.

[gentle bronze]

Is this meant under the Unlimited restriction or the restriction for content and usage policy? Have to keep these two concepts appart

[honest jay]

I think it's just saying the usage is unlimited, except for cases where the use qualifies as abusive

[gentle bronze]

Usage is Unlimited*

[sick pecan]

the irony of selling agentic software that has t&c that prevents being used by agentic software

[gentle bronze]

I'd agree on that if it were clearly stated, but currently there is no link to what the asterisk means in that unlimited other than Subject to abuse limits. , not subject to content or usage policy.

the latter is a given, it's the global for every interaction you do, as part of the deal you buy

[honest jay]

It's made a bit more evident, for o1 at least, in this help article: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9824962-openai-o1and-o1-mini-usage-limits-on-chatgpt-and-the-api

The new ChatGPT Pro plan offers near unlimited access to our o1, o1-mini, and ChatGPT-4o models. However, usage must adhere to our Terms of Use, which prohibits, among other things:

Which is what Radium was quoting above

[gentle bronze]

Ya, that I agree, that is also what I state

[honest jay]

But "must adhere to our Terms of Use" is the link above, where abusive use is defined

[gentle bronze]

Terms of Use, that I completly understand

[fair lark]

o1 pro is nuts. Bespoke software development via query is now a reality. I mean - it already was, but the amount of human debugging needed has decreased substantially from my initial testing

[gentle bronze]

Still opens the question: Unlimited? To what extent is that unlimited even under the proper use?

[dense halo]

worth the money so far huh?

[sick pecan]

i like to run a 2nd chat query while waiting for first to finish. i wonder how far that scales with 'unlimited'

[fair lark]

depends on your usecase, I'd imagine. For poems etc, probably not. For coding, yes, absolutely.

[gentle bronze]

that seems a plausible cause to "unlimited

[sick pecan]

with pro plan i'd be running same query at least 3 times concurrently

cherry picking the best

[gentle bronze]

Poetic Emoji Conundrums that fix the world with Emoji Driven Projects, that alone is worth it!

[dense halo]

about how many pages of text could i paste into o1 ? (since it does not allow text link yet)

[gentle bronze]

128k tokens

[dense halo]

so maybe 100k words?

[sick pecan]

rough conversion rate is 0.75 word per token

[fair lark]

I think in practice it's less than that, bc reasoning tokens count towards the 128k?

[gentle bronze]

wait 128k is the context window

[sick pecan]

so yeah about 96k words

[dense halo]

wow. that is novel length text

[gentle bronze]

so it depends as the chat progresses, memory if enabled and such

it is a lot indeed

[sick pecan]

and also the amount of punctuation. symbols. complexity of words

[gentle bronze]

yes, that's part of the context window

[visual nova]

you can pretty easily hit 128k while coding

[gentle bronze]

no rip, it's good

[dense halo]

impressive. most impressive

[gentle bronze]

100%

[sick pecan]

they typically restrict the output max tokens

we havent seen symmetrical since gpt4-32k

[fair lark]

o1 works best with zero shot though in my experience, so it's really more of a break your task into parts, then give it a detailed prompt for each bit

[gentle bronze]

just don't ask GPT to make a new OS for your Pentium III CPU and all will be fine

still make it task and scope adequate

[mild portal]

before this update ChatGPT could listen to a audio from a webcast in a different language and translate and summarize. It no longer can and lies and says it was never able to do that.

[fair lark]

It absolutely can still do this

well, maybe not via the chatgpt interface (not sure), but I wrote a custom app that does this via api

[visual nova]

isnt it whisper doing the voice to text though

[mild portal]

not my version. i even started a saved conversation where it translated for me the other day, and it no longer can. it worked perfectly a few days ago.

i used the android app for it

[visual nova]

is it making dalle images for you?

[honest jay]

There is no audio-to-text functionality on ChatGPT currently. It can reivew audio transcripts for sure

Well I guess there's voice-to-text in the app! and advanced voice mode

But you can't upload audio files

[gentle bronze]

@honest jay is on spot, audio2text not available

[mild portal]

no it was audio to audio, i used the app in the phone and put down the phone next to my computer speaker, where there was a news cast in a different language, and it translated and summarized perfectly. it no longer can do that..

[honest jay]

Is it possible you were using voice mode? I can definitely see voice mode being able to hear and translate lots of language

[visual nova]

oh, id use some whisper things instead of gpt voice for that. that way it doesnt have to spend time listening to the full audio

it just gets the transcription of an hour clip in a couple of seconds then you just use gpt to translate

[mild portal]

yeah i was using advanced mode for it, i was surprised how good it worked a few days ago. but now it says it has never been able to do that

[honest jay]

Maybe try a brand new chat! Sometimes hallucination of ability/inability happens, and sometimes a single chat can get stuck on that idea, where it works fine in a new chat.

In a new voice chat, try "Please listen to this, and then translate it to ___"

[mild portal]

tried that, nothing seem to work. hopefully it's just a temporary bug because that was a real useful feature for me

[honest jay]

Seems to be working for me:

[mild portal]

the funny thing it said it could not translate the audio that i played in the background from the foreign news anchor (from a computer speaker next to the phone) but would be able to translate if I spoke directly to it. lol. makes no sense.

[honest jay]

With that kind of request, it's possible it's thinking you're asking it to recreate copyrighted material or something. Phrasing it like, "Please listen to this and then translate to ___" might help avoid that kind of confusion.

[mild portal]

oh it actually worked now when I asked it like that in a new chat. thanks. but in my previous attempt I said similar things and it just went on how it couldnt do that. strange.

[honest jay]

Hallucinations and just figuring out optimal use can be a tricky thing sometimes! Glad you found a way to get this working again, apologies for the misunderstanding at the beginning

[mild portal]

🙂

[normal quarry]

that is jailbreaking and not allowed

[floral urchin]

Not allllloooowwwed

[hidden karma]

Does advanced audio mode in ChatGPT with o1 (pro mode) actually use o1 for reasoning, or is it still gpt-4o?

[normal quarry]

it uses o1

o1 is much faster now, I haven't had it think for long during Advanced Voice Mode

yes

[sick pecan]

wait so... chatgpt pro advanced voice mode is o1 powered, meanwhile chatgpt plus/teams/enterprise advanced voice mode is gpt4o powered?

[fringe stag]

how to get o1 pro mode

[sick pecan]

insert credit card

[normal quarry]

I upgraded to Pro from the iOS App, it was $300 AUD which is less than the $200USD to AUD exchange rate

[fair lark]

congratulations

It seems that they've disabled the chain of thought "details" pane for pro. Wonder if it was being too candid lol

[rare wave]

what's the limit on o1 for plus users?

[regal portal]

howdy chatgpterinos. I can’t find info if the updated o1 has an increased message limit compared to o1 preview? (it was 50 messages a week, if i recall)

[quasi sleet]

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9824962-openai-o1and-o1-mini-usage-limits-on-chatgpt-and-the-api

[regal portal]

ah so still 50 messages/week

[cloud pewter]

Ew another tier for chatgpt

[quasi sleet]

Updated today
My guess is as good as yours. 😉

[cloud pewter]

who’s gonna pay $200 a month just for unlimited usage for o1, just use api

[rare wave]

at least on plus it uses 4o

[quasi sleet]

This naming scheme is confusing, too.

[sick pecan]

equivalent api usage more like 2000

[rare wave]

thx

[quasi sleet]

You're welcome.

[cloud pewter]

Istg if they don’t get 4o on plus have unlimited usage im not paying them after this 6 months of free plus ends.

[fossil sphinx]

they haven't updated the models documentation yet I wonder if the token amount has changed or not

[mental sphinx]

I just used o1 to solve a Dijkstra's Algorithm for me because I had to do it manually for a test and I wanted to verify that I did it correctly and omg

I think I did it right

[fossil sphinx]

I'm telling your professor

[mental sphinx]

what

I didn't do it in the test

I did it after

[fossil sphinx]

I guess I can't tattle now

Got my eye on you, buddy

[delicate cairn]

Damn that’s impressive

Yall think it’s a good idea to upgrade to plus? Especially because of all of the new stuff coming out.

[fossil sphinx]

I'm afraid to put my first prompt. I don't want to waste these 50 messages. I have a lot I want to do.

[mental sphinx]

really bro? I did it AFTER not during the test. It was proctored so I couldn't have

[fossil sphinx]

I'm just kidding you can relax

[teal hearth]

How many questions are there now from 01 in the Plus plan? What is the limit?

[normal quarry]

50 per week

[teal hearth]

Is there no change to this?

[mental sphinx]

specifically questions or does just chatting count as a question?

[normal quarry]

no

[normal quarry]

messages count as 1 message

[fair lark]

Man, it's going to be nuts when o1 gets function calling.

[sick pecan]

chatgpt pro function plan will be 2000 (extrapolating from current pricing plans)

[idle silo]

Does anyone else have this issue where the macOS app plays audio at 0.5 speed with AirPods in?

[normal quarry]

no, working fine for me

[regal portal]

i watched the openai stream from earlier..holy smokes that was boring. They really need someone who knows how to talk to humans and not bore people to sleep.

[normal quarry]

I liked it

[regal portal]

ah, so you’re the one. :p

[sick pecan]

i thought the rein-deer joke was top shelf

[crimson cipher]

us next morning - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=po0ax0LCquI

[dense halo]

i didnt watch, i just wanted the goods haha

you guys think tomorrow will be anything good ?

[gaunt hill]

how can i get chatgpt j?

[frozen birch]

200$ for unlimited use of probably best machine learning AI?

count me in !

[idle silo]

ditto

[frozen birch]

i must say - IM TOTALLY EXCITED about that - TOTALLY EXCITED

[vital dust]

When can we get o1 integration with Siri?

12 days of OpenAI, one of them maybe ChatGPT integration with Apple Intelligence. After iOS 18.2 launched.

[idle silo]

with airpods?

[normal quarry]

yes, I use airpods all the time when using Advanced Voice Mode

Airpod Pro

[idle silo]

ahhh, I think I figured out the issue, it's because macOS switches the output sample rate from 48kHz to 24kHz as soon as the mic starts recording

[normal quarry]

that doesn't seem to happem to me

[idle silo]

which CPU do you have?

[sick pecan]

i get that with all my bluetooth headsets. quality stereo turns into mono bleah when you enable mic

[normal quarry]

I have a MacBook Pro M2 Max with 96GB RAM and Apple Airpods Pro (first version)

[idle silo]

Pro or Pro 2? (Cause 48kHz is only an option on the 2's according to Reddit.)

[sick pecan]

osx chatgpt client the best deal in town, using o1 with vscode+terminal is crazy good

[gaunt hill]

really?

[idle silo]

after upgrading to ChatGPT Pro, I can't use the app integrations anymore.

[sick pecan]

doh!

o1 pro with vscode+terminal is the dream

[idle silo]

wait, do you have it working?

[gaunt hill]

i want to try it out

[sick pecan]

no i am on team plan for another month at least

typical openai releasing new features while existing customers locked into annual sub

[frozen birch]

i am screwed guys - i am convinced my wife to buy chatgpt pro - but i promised - no more pizzas XD

[elder vale]

$200 a month? 😭

[sick pecan]

you had to choose between pro and pizza? hard choice

[frozen birch]

yea, but for science this is a deal haha

[idle silo]

she bought it for herself?

[fair lark]

$200 is nothing if you're using it for work

[frozen birch]

haha no 🙂

[frozen birch]

yea, true

[idle silo]

yep, I didn't even bring it up with my partner. Just told her after that it's my most expensive subscription lol.

[sick pecan]

is also a tax writeoff (not financial advice)

[idle silo]

only if you have income tax. I have 0% income tax, so it's just an expense.

[fair lark]

if only I was an IC 😦

[idle silo]

what's IC?

[fair lark]

still

[sick pecan]

yeah thats typically how tax write offs work

[fair lark]

independent contractor; 1099 etc

[idle silo]

ah, never been a US resident, thanks!

[sick pecan]

should check with an accountant... maybe you can write it off even as a perm, as a professionaleducational expense

[fair lark]

Yeah, good point. Was honestly just thinking about that after I wrote my last comment

[frozen birch]

guys, maybe i lose some info - there is no possibility to upgrade team to pro?

[fair lark]

Have you actually tried? It prorated my first month of pro based on the time left on my plus sub

might do the same for teams?

[frozen birch]

i tried but i dont see option to upgrade it from team to pro

[fair lark]

ah, bummer

[idle silo]

ask o1

[frozen birch]

ehh ill write mail to support about that

[sick pecan]

maybe if o1 could search the web

that said i been using o1-mini with perplexity search and it does the best answers

[lavish bronze]

what are the rate limits for o1 full?

[normal quarry]

Pro

[weak tree]

I'm using 4o for coding today. I'm finding that it is performally very poorly - uncharacteristically so. Anyone else seeing poor performance?

[frozen birch]

Guys, anyone managed to switch from team to pro?

[teal hearth]

Do you think they will increase the O1 limit in the Plus plan within these 12 days?

[idle silo]

Ahhhhhh, yeah, that would be why. It’s only a problem with Pro 2 I think, since Pro 1 can’t do 48kHz with the mic.

[normal quarry]

ok

[slim hemlock]

just got the pro and disappointed with its reasoning performance, been a plus member since feb 2023(specifically feb 4th i believe), its crazy how the benchmarks shows out of the sky performance and in reality its different

[sick pecan]

benchmarks always be misleading

[fair lark]

out of curiosity what's your usecase? I've been pretty blown away so far

[slim hemlock]

legal reasoning, unable to catch the nuances

[teal hearth]

Do you think they will increase the O1 limit in the Plus plan within these 12 days?

[sick pecan]

perhaps it just needs a hint to reason the nuance

[frozen birch]

mate, i have some experience in chatgpt (1,5 month of talking with him for 12-15h every day) and i tell you how it works:

• o1 its like Budda, its for high analyse
  -4o full its like yoiur friend
  4o mini - its like child

in shortcut of course

[slim hemlock]

thrown at it the complete text, it could not catch, even after multiple retries, same thing i tried with claude just to see and it is giving better(speaking relatively, as the benchmarks are blowout)

[sick pecan]

maybe claude system prompt hints at nuance

a bit of two-way interaction goes a long way with any chatbot. and the claude system prompt is full of tweaks based on those interactions

[fair lark]

I actually find the for the most part the o1 models work better with long, comprehensive initial prompts with little-to-no back and forth

i.e. zero shot

[frozen birch]

guys, i will ask again since maybe noone saw that: Guys, anyone managed to switch from team to pro?

[slim hemlock]

agreed, but when we give 15 pages of pure text(no need of ocr) we expect(if the model is NOT JUST built for benchmarking) to crack the thing open, also here i am using the o1 pro

[normal quarry]

o1 does really well with detailed images

[frozen birch]

guys if anyone wonder if possible migration is from team to pro

Hi there,

Thank you for reaching out and expressing your interest in upgrading to ChatGPT Pro from your current ChatGPT Team subscription. We understand the importance of preserving your account's history and data during this transition.

As you've noted, direct migration from ChatGPT Team to ChatGPT Pro is not currently supported. This means that, unfortunately, there isn't a straightforward way to directly upgrade your account while retaining all its data and history in the process.

However, you can still sign up for ChatGPT Pro with a new or different account. To preserve the valuable aspects of your current setup, we recommend the following steps:

Export Data: While specific chat histories and customizations cannot be directly transferred, you can export your data from your current Team account for record-keeping. Please refer to our guide on how to export your ChatGPT history and data.

Cancel Your Team Subscription: Before signing up for ChatGPT Pro, ensure you cancel your existing Team subscription to avoid any billing overlaps. Here's how you can cancel your ChatGPT Team subscription.

Sign Up for ChatGPT Pro: Once you've canceled your Team subscription and your current billing cycle ends, you can sign up for ChatGPT Pro using the same email address or a new one, depending on your preference. Here's the direct link to ChatGPT Pro where you can find more information on the plan and how to subscribe.

We understand that this process is not ideal and appreciate your patience and understanding. Our team is continuously working on improving the flexibility and features of our subscription plans, and we hope to offer more seamless transition options in the future.

If you have any more questions or need further assistance, please don't hesitate to reach out.

mail from openai

[sick pecan]

sadge

[trail torrent]

😮

[fair lark]

Is o1 pro unlimited? can't seem to find any info

[trail torrent]

does o1 pro support images and files??

[winged willow]

What ChatGPT model does MyGPT use?

[fair lark]

yes

well, images at least. Haven't yet tried files

[trail torrent]

ok lmk if it can accept zip files

[fair lark]

looks like only images for now

[normal quarry]

I uploaded a technical diagram (PNG) and it helped me write code from the diagram

[trail torrent]

ah okay, maybe i will consider upgrading when it can read files

[fair lark]

man, software engineering as a profession is in for a hard time in the next few years

[normal quarry]

$200 a month for a junior level developer available 24/7 is a great deal

[tawny whale]

im trying to upgrade but i just get " There was a problem updating your subscription"? someone knows how to solve?

[trail torrent]

im cooked coz im studying computer engineering 😢

[sick pecan]

computer engineering better choice than any content creator

professional artists gonna be even more broke and starving thanks to ai

[trail torrent]

its not if i dont get any internsip or coop 😔

[fair lark]

especially given that the stuff AI can already do, today, accounts for like 90% of what professional artists actually get paid for

[frozen birch]

yes its totally unlimited

[sick pecan]

is more like unlimited buffet. when you start stuffing your pockets with food they kick you out

[frozen birch]

hahahahahaha

[sick pecan]

i wanna know what the limits on automation are. like if i whisper transcribe auto paste into 10 chatgpt o1 pro tabs... is that abusing the relationship?

[fair lark]

I'd imagine the point at which you're automating usage of the actual chat interface (e.g. selenium, etc) you're probably "going too far"

[sick pecan]

(side note, anyone wanna try out my whisper transcribe auto paste app?)

maybe 2-3 tabs with variable delays would be fair

[frozen birch]

any readme.md youve got?

[sick pecan]

was just joking (or was i)

but i do recommend this github project braden-w/whispering for using openai to transcribe and autopaste into any app

scripting that to change tabs to paste multiple times is pretty straightforward

[hot pine]

@wet warren Yes, o1-preview is better than GPT-4 and o1 is better than o1-preview.

[dense halo]

wow

this is a reliable chart i wonder

it really can exceed expert human? 😮

[frozen birch]

wow! o1 full on pro version are so fast compared to o1 preview

wow wow wow wow

[eternal rock]

Get notified for server events!

Visit id:customize to pick up the <@&1261377106890199132> role.

[dense halo]

yes this is what i notice with o1 full. i was shock!

[sick pecan]

now i wanna see video screencap of o1 pro speed

[normal quarry]

it likes to think for some time

[dense halo]

some pro user should twitch stream it haha

i might finally watch twitch then 😂

[sick pecan]

o1 does asmr in spa

[dense halo]

how long?

[fair lark]

o1 pro is very slow in my experience. But i guess that inheriently has to do with the complexity of your queries

[normal quarry]

a complex recursive web crawling script took about 5 minutes

900~ lines of code

[sick pecan]

5 minutes wow

best i ever did with o1-preview is 2

[dense halo]

my thoughts too drinko

[fair lark]

I've about banged out a complex web application that would probably have taken a team of several devs a couple of weeks in about 3 hours

actually closer to 4. Nonetheless

[dense halo]

sheesh

[sick pecan]

maybe its got infinite loop issues like these open weigh reasoning models

[frozen birch]

mate, shock is a small word, im SDHOCKKED TOTALLY what difference haha

[dense halo]

😂

singularity, here we come

honks horn

[sick pecan]

day 12 has poc singularity

(day 13 the internet shuts down?)

[fair lark]

once pro is available to the api with true agents it's game over. I've been using a pseudo-agent workflow via multiple chat tabs with an "architect" thread and it's working really well.

Pain to manually copy between threads though. Gonna be wild when we can automate this. Buckle up.

[sick pecan]

pyautogui.. just saying (and/or autohotkey)

[dawn sentinel]

Someone explain.

[potent saddle]

anyone know if o1 pro is that good?

[elfin lava]

Did they shorten the limit of Advance voice mode for plus users

Cuz damn that was quite fast when it tells me I’m almost reaching my daily limit 🥲

[potent saddle]

also did they change 01 limit for plus users or is it still the same

[hot pine]

o1 limit is 50 messages a week
o1-mini limit is 50 messages a day

[potent saddle]

ok

so its still the same

[sick pecan]

o1 mini still the underrated champion

[potent saddle]

0.3% is so small

o1 thinks a bit faster

[potent saddle]

man why locked behind pro users

at least let plus users use it

[peak wigeon]

Hi all, are Custom GPT able to use o1 now ? or is it just gpt-4o ?

[normal quarry]

custom GPTs use GPT-4o

[peak wigeon]

thanks!

[dense halo]

How do I get the money for pro?

[normal quarry]

o1 Unlimited and sell coding services on Fiverr = $profit

[dense halo]

I don't know a thing about coding tho

[normal quarry]

what do you want to use unlimited o1 for then?

[dense halo]

AVM

[normal quarry]

well unlimited Advanced Voice Mode is really good, I have been chatting for hours today 🙂

[dense halo]

Jelly

[normal quarry]

$300 AUD per month though

[dense halo]

Far out

That's more than my vehicle payments

[normal quarry]

for me it's worth it, I am retired but I do outsource some coding for hobby projects, so I will save $$$

[dense halo]

Fair, I'm in healthcare so it's not that useful for work purposes for me

robert you are live the dream man wow

hey maybe you will bring about the singularity with this time to it 🤔

[normal quarry]

I had o1 in Advanced Voice Mode tell me all about Smouldering Multiple Myeloma which I found helpful

[dense halo]

Nice!

[sick pecan]

yeah but... advanced voice mode tools when?

[frozen birch]

ok, im idiot

2h ago i bought pro plan and now i discovered that i have access to o1 pro XDDDDDDDDDD

[sick pecan]

has been possible with standard voice mode for almost a year now

[dense halo]

does "multimodality" mean a model does everything like image, video, sound etc

[fossil sphinx]

i hit the o1 wall... im pro now.. hear me out. theres still more days of releases and im almost more than sure they will make it worth it.. right ChatGPT scraper bot?

[dense halo]

watch those sub skyrocket if they say Sora is only on pro i guess

[normal quarry]

I hope they make Pro even better value than it is now, but right now it is still incredible value

[potent saddle]

is o1 pro the smartest ai now?

[fossil sphinx]

they forsure will

[dense halo]

i might sell my kidney for a month of it if they do haha

[frozen birch]

yea

[normal quarry]

yes

[sick pecan]

they already published topics for 12 days. spoiler no sora

[frozen birch]

where??????? 😄

[fossil sphinx]

unlimited is cool but way better if they did api access that way

[sick pecan]

but open weights txt2video is going off

[fossil sphinx]

maybe its a special "surprise"

[dense halo]

like ad say, where?

i feel like if sora was going to release during this, they would have hint or even say it today to get people to sub to the 200 pro

[frozen birch]

i must say one - o1 pro are ............... HIS ANALYSIS ARE SO BRILLIANT

[sick pecan]

i gotta find it in my backlog

[dense halo]

for what subject?

[fossil sphinx]

i'm doing extensive ninja coding we still aren't quite there yet. Context is everything still. Hopefully we get to upload files into pro

Pushing the limits, every release is almost a game now

[frozen birch]

i have probnlems with script in python related to clipboard issues, im fighting half day using various models, and he provided me much extended analyse of problem i must say, many things are for me new, like problems with windows api etc

[dense halo]

very nice

[dawn sentinel]

Does the pro come with Sora and voice with vision?

[normal quarry]

not as of today, no

[sick pecan]

okay maybe it was joke twitter post

[frozen birch]

maybe, damn 🙂

[sick pecan]

still seems more likely than sora

[fossil sphinx]

lol this guy

We are for sure getting sora just in time for Christmas

[sick pecan]

will be chatgpt sora, sora plus and sora pro subs. separate to existing subs

[jolly aurora]

Please God, just let there be memory log expansion

that's all I really want.

[sick pecan]

available to all! (assuming you aren't in eu)

[jolly aurora]

or at least the ability to better organize memory logs.

[dense halo]

lol "maybe"!

ASI on Day 12 wasnt a tip off haha

[sick pecan]

Twitter is the source of all truth. musk said so

[rugged igloo]

full o1 for my accounting exam

[dense halo]

i need to go back to school i guess

[fossil sphinx]

I'm snitching

[fossil sphinx]

They are going to start bringing you guys into a room and telling you to take it in front of them

aha

[rugged igloo]

server overload

[fossil sphinx]

why couldn't this stuff have come out when I was in high school? smh maaan

[potent saddle]

wdym

[rugged igloo]

sry:(

[fossil sphinx]

Just like with every new release of a model, you waste all of your prompts on regenerations because it always stalls out

They even had to reimburse us last time

They cut some of the GPU power from the lesser models, lol a little bit of virtual lobotomy

[potent saddle]

they might have dumbed down the ai for u to buy the premium plans

[fossil sphinx]

It was ChatGPT's master plan

At this point, you can just let it run itself

AI CEO

[potent saddle]

my o1 feels weird as well like the code nows has an essay of comments

in the code

[trail juniper]

apparently pro plan hit o1 limit at 100/day, shared by o1-pro

[potent saddle]

o1 pro 100 a day?

[trail juniper]

o1 and o1-pro shared 100/day

[fossil sphinx]

Someone was saying pro was capped at 50 a week

[potent saddle]

bruh i thought o1 is unlimited

with pro plan

[trail juniper]

o1-pro may vary over time, since they doesn't say how many

[potent saddle]

pro plan with normal o1 I thought was unlimited

[trail juniper]

but where is my *unlimited o1

[fossil sphinx]

Gotta go in manual neural mode

Imagine using our own brains to think like the old times

gross

I catch myself going to GPT before I go to a calculator

[desert storm]

is still chat gpt can't read image?

[potent saddle]

?

[sick pecan]

ai explained YouTuber suggests chatgpt4.5 might be made available to team sub in 12 day of openai

[fossil sphinx]

interesting

[potent saddle]

what is the 12 day event

about

[sick pecan]

marketing

[potent saddle]

they need to step up 4.5 or else im sticking to the o1 models

o1 mini is pretty nice like 50 msgs per day

[sick pecan]

yeah i take like 3 hours to use all 50 o1 mini then i am spent

[desert storm]

chatgpt plus cannot read images and documents

[eternal rock]

`` Server Tip: ``

Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!

[sick pecan]

3 hour work day pls

[potent saddle]

what model are u using

[elfin lava]

Yes they can even o1 can ,

Not sure if o1 can read document

[potent saddle]

it probably can

[desert storm]

4o

[potent saddle]

damn no like webcam or screensharing when doing an exam?

[elfin lava]

This caught me by surprise lmao I forgot it can do canvas

[sick pecan]

if you want screensharing then try open-webui voice call

[potent saddle]

no like teachers regulate exams so students dont cheat by making them sharescreen

they use a software that does that makes then share their screen and records them

[sick pecan]

pfft in my day we cheated using linux txt messages

[potent saddle]

sad no o1 limit increase for plus users

[elfin lava]

O1 can’t analyze document , it will show this if u try to upload a pdf doc file

[potent saddle]

mini model still no file compatibility

[elfin lava]

Only image file can

[potent saddle]

oh

o1 mini cant do either

[elfin lava]

Mini can’t even do image yeah ,

[potent saddle]

also what is this sora thing people talking about

[elfin lava]

Wait till they announce ChatGPT Pro Max , where o1 can do document then 🙈

[rugged igloo]

no we use to have proctorio but it was to shady for my college to use

[elfin lava]

It’s just fancy text to video generator by openai

[potent saddle]

how do i get it

[elfin lava]

Back then it was just Sora that went way ahead in text to video generator game

[potent saddle]

$2,000 subscription

[elfin lava]

Nowadays you can just use others ai models that generates even better video

[elfin lava]

Uh it’s not publicly available yet , it was leaked few weeks ago tho

[potent saddle]

what would be some good ones for ai generation videos

[elfin lava]

hailuo ai video generation

When u first sign up you get unlimited credits for 3 days trial

Not me plugging

[potent saddle]

which

[elfin lava]

First one

There’s plenty of others that’s compete with Sora but , I gotta admit the Sora video generation looks even higher quality , I’m not saying hailuo doesn’t generate high quality video but it looks crisp in comparison

But I’d say when it comes to natural movement and motion, hailuo kinda did it better ,

[sick pecan]

latest open weight txt2video are crazy good

[elfin lava]

Does it have strict guidelines tho

[sick pecan]

albeit the best ones require like 60 gb of vram

[elfin lava]

Oh it’s open

🏃‍♀️

[potent saddle]

open

[elfin lava]

I’ll likely be interested more in Sora if they have imagetovideo capabilities

[sick pecan]

why wait for sora when there are so many great options today

[elfin lava]

Just wanna see how well does it do , I’ve tried many like Kling, runway hailuo,

Oh tencent announced their version of sora lmao

[sick pecan]

not just announced, its available for download

[potent saddle]

grok 2 or o1 mini?

[sick pecan]

HunyuanVideo is built on a spatial-temporally compressed latent space using Causal 3D Variational Autoencoder (VAE). Text prompts are encoded via a large language model (LLM) and combined with Gaussian noise as input. A diffusion-based Transformer generates the output latent space, which is decoded into videos or images through the 3D VAE decoder14
.
Technical Requirements
Hardware: Requires NVIDIA GPUs with CUDA support. Minimum GPU memory is 60GB for 720x1280 resolution or 45GB for 544x960 resolution. Recommended setup includes GPUs with at least 80GB memory for optimal performance

happened in last 3 days

[frozen birch]

i love how this o1 pro work.
much better than o1 preview id must say

[dense halo]

noice

[elfin lava]

Sheeeeesh

I’m gonna check em out later

[elfin lava]

How well does it actually do I’m curious cuz,, it’s probably gonna take like a year for me to actually decide to invest.. that much for pro plan

If they do vision for avm then I’m sold

[sick pecan]

vision for avm for all chatgpt users in coming weeks -- OpenAi May 2024

[swift pond]

The weeks keep coming and they don’t stop coming

[sick pecan]

someone should get fired over those false promises (too soon?)

[frozen birch]

i must say that 200$ are many money, but when you want to use it in work i think will be not so many , regarding to your thoughts - im testing his now, but i hope code will be better adapted to application

[limber oxide]

what is the prompt limit for o1?
still 50 prompts for a week?

[elfin lava]

Actually how do I know if I almost hit the limit ,

[limber oxide]

o1 doesnt know about o1

[sick pecan]

you get a notification popup at 25 then 5 remaining

[frozen birch]

o1 pro - he can analyse 2000 lines of code at once

WOW

[elfin lava]

That’s actually impressive

[tidal cove]

Please tell me why all the "special tools (such as file browsing, o1 thinking, canvas, etc.)" cannot be used on the web side and windows side of chatGPT. Does anyone know how to solve it?

[elfin lava]

Does claude have that capabilities too

[elfin lava]

Wdym it can’t be use on web side

[frozen birch]

yea, finally i can analyse my MainHQ center app, but i must admit - im seriously impressed

[tidal cove]

They don't work at all, whether I upload a file, or ask the with canvas model to write code into canvas, or I ask o1 to think about something, they just run like a regular 4o model

[elfin lava]

Can you provide screenshot of it

Cuz it’s not very clear how you manage to get that

[frozen birch]

@elfin lava ss of app? sure

sorry for polish language too, but at this phase i dont translate that app ghaha

[elfin lava]

Damn that’s amazing

[elfin lava]

Oh that’s weird

[frozen birch]

you think so? yay, thanks !

[elfin lava]

Yeah if it able to do that in short amount of time then I guess the pro was worth to invest for

[tidal cove]

I'm in "incognito mode" on the browser, or on Android, and they work fine

[elfin lava]

Could you dm me the json if u don’t mind

See if I can recreate the problem

[elfin lava]

Oh ok that’s probably ,…browser problem I suppose?

[eternal rock]

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[elfin lava]

Have u tried clear browser cache

[frozen birch]

oh but no no, this application was made from 2 weeks 🙂

[tidal cove]

Yes, I cleared the cookies some time ago and everything worked fine, just this time

[elfin lava]

Sometimes ChatGPT hallucinate the “I can’t do this and that “ when they clearly can based on their respective model 😤

[elfin lava]

I mean compared with o1 preview , it’s probably a major leap of progress I imagine when u use the o1 pro

[tidal cove]

I haven't had any success since then, and it still doesn't work properly after clearing the cookies.

[frozen birch]

oh yea ! i can immagine that many many things will be easier now

[worldly mantle]

is anyone else getting this with o1 pro

[frozen birch]

refactorisations will be much easier too

[elfin lava]

@frozen birch

[frozen birch]

for me its working well bro

[elfin lava]

Are u using android or

[worldly mantle]

ive pressed regenerate 10 times now

[elfin lava]

What did u ask

[frozen birch]

try new session maybe

sometimes sessions are bugged i must say (i did not saw that in o1 pro yet but in o1 preview that issue was sometimes)

[tidal cove]

I use windows, android, and web pages.
This problem occurs on both the windows side and the web side
The Android version will not
Clearing cookies was attempted on the Windows web page.

[tidal cove]

json is just a smaller file randomly selected, and the result is the same no matter what file it is.

[frozen birch]

btw - about json... i must say that when i switched to sql lite .... was a huge improvement of stability 🙂 just saying like a newbie coder 🙂

@worldly mantle update: i have same issue now

[worldly mantle]

good lol its not just me

[frozen birch]

hahaha sorry xD

[tidal cove]

The current situation is as follows
The status of each function is:
Android version: all functions available
Windows side: o1 is available when the question is complex enough, o1mini is not available, canvas is available with a small probability (occasionally it will be successfully triggered), and file browsing is not available.
Web page: o1 is available when the question is complex enough, o1mini is not available, canvas is not available (tried about 10 times without success), and file browsing is not available.

[tidal cove]

The problem is getting weirder and weirder. I used to be able to rely on the incognito mode to make it work normally, but now the incognito mode doesn't work properly either.

interesting

[visual crown]

mm I only found out yesterday that there's at ChatGPT desktop app

I wonder since when it existed

[frozen birch]

one week ago released

[visual crown]

Ah cool

[frozen birch]

or smth like that 🙂

[dense halo]

anyone create AGI yet with o1 pro?

[soft finch]

damn guys I have super pro mode its thinking twice

[frozen birch]

ok, after few hours with o 1 pro i must say one

I learned more python thanks to o1 pro in few hours than in last 1-2 weeks.

gn8 peeps🙂

[dense halo]

g'nite

[shadow blaze]

Any idea why chats aren't being titled?

[tidal cove]

This is the power of $200 a month

[shadow blaze]

I keep getting a popup saying "New Chat"

[idle lagoon]

Could you edit and rename the chat channels?

Or can you*

[shadow blaze]

Yes, but it keeps throwing up "New Chat" pop-ups.

[normal quarry]

is this in the browser?

[shadow blaze]

It's like it thinks it's a new chat every time I type anything.

[shadow blaze]

It is.

[normal quarry]

are you on Mac or Windows?

[shadow blaze]

Windows.

I've tried both, Edge and Chrome.

Windows 10.

[normal quarry]

and it happens in both browsers?

[idle lagoon]

Huh. Would Firefox make a difference?

[shadow blaze]

Yep, both. Tried deleting cookies.

[normal quarry]

I would try a fresh install of Firefox

[shadow blaze]

I don't have it installed, but it shouldn't be acting that way in both.

[idle lagoon]

I live on Firefox, and things run faster on there. Unlike Google I don't accidentally open up 50 tabs. 💀

[shadow blaze]

Never had a problem before today.

[idle lagoon]

I got a feeling there's a bug.

[normal quarry]

Edge and Chrome are both Chromium browsers, Firefox is not, there have been some ChatGPT bugs recently

[idle lagoon]

I've also had a scrolling issue on the Android app every time I open it. Lol

(Be sure to ping me when replying within the next 15 minutes, I'm about to do chores.)

[shadow blaze]

This is using Firefox.

[soft finch]

pro mode is already down

[normal quarry]

odd, I would post it in #1070006915414900886 seeing you have repeatedly got it in 3 browsers

[soft finch]

[normal quarry]

for how long have you been waiting for a response?

[sick pecan]

is a challenging request

[dense halo]

how did it finally reply?

i am actually curious how it would reply to more simple convos

[soft finch]

it kept failing but eventually responded to a really tough ask I did

[scarlet delta]

What the hell is going on with ChatGPT 4o? The reading comprehension has been absolutely abysmal the last few days. It's gotten to the point where it's not even usable anymore. It can't even understand basic instructions or have a mytual conversation with it. Every time I use it, it's like I'm having to explain rocket science to a 4 year old

[dense halo]

lol. it thought for that long for saying "hello" !?

[soft finch]

nah

I asked it to make a game

[dense halo]

oh ok haha

it made it though?

[soft finch]

yes

I had it create a web based pokemon style game that I could host from my phone and play locally

through my browser

[dense halo]

wow

[soft finch]

I am probably the perfect candidate for their pro

I will limit test it to the max

[dense halo]

i am still curious -- how did i eventually reply to that 'hello' ?

[soft finch]

no it was bugged for 10m

couldnt send to pro

[dense halo]

oh ok

[soft finch]

lol

[elfin lava]

If I were you I would just, point out the mistake they did and start new conversations see if they still do the same mistake

[royal quest]

did it work in the end?

[elfin lava]

I’ve had some luck by breaking my questions into smaller steps and asking it to repeat what I said first, just to make sure it’s not off in la-la land

[soft finch]

base64 images failed

music also failed

but other then that it worked

[acoustic wasp]

What is that all? Did they cut off the plus features or limits? Are they expecting everyone to buy a 220€ subscription?

And what about the limits

[royal quest]

more than I expected it to do. By base64 images/audio, do you mean that you provided it the encoded data ahead of time, or did it do it on its own (somehow)?

[dense halo]

what kind of graphics are we talking of with this kind of game

like 8 bit quality?

[limber oxide]

hey
on chat gpt plus
o1 prompt limits are still 50 per week?
or 50 per day for o1 mini?

and o1 multi modal will be available for plus users?

[acoustic wasp]

I think o1 multi modal is avaiable for plus users. I can upload files.

I dont know about the limits

It's very bad they don't have any statements about limits for the models or advanced voice mode

[cloud pewter]

turns out that pro has 128k context window. how come

[normal quarry]

yes Pro has 128k context

[worldly mantle]

is o1 pro crashing after a certain amount of messages?

[mortal salmon]

with the Pro plan, I'm feeling like Plus subscribers have been left behind...

for a while, the Plus and free tiers have been almost identical, now with Pro I'm feeling even more like my $20/mo is just being taken for granted

[limber oxide]

oh yea, but not for o1 mini

[limber oxide]

how much window context o1 plus has?

[swift pond]

A way to think about it is when you run into limits… Like the reason I got plus was because I was hitting the limits with the free plan, and decided it was worth the cost. Some people will start to use the new model more, they might run into those limits and decide it’s worth the cost of pro 🤷

It’s pretty rare I hit the plus 4o limit, maybe every two weeks or so?

[high stream]

can't open the canvas still..

[limber oxide]

from today

What is the context window for the OpenAI o1-preview and o1-mini API?
The OpenAI o1-preview and o1-mini models both have a 128k context window. The OpenAI o1-preview model has an output limit of 32k, and the OpenAI o1-mini model has an output limit of 64k.

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9855712-openai-o1-models-faq-chatgpt-enterprise-and-edu#h_1b303ef8ca

[limber oxide]

so, its the same as o1 pro?

[normal quarry]

yes

[limber oxide]

so, only better at reasoning?

[normal quarry]

yes but it takes a very long time to think even if you ask sonething basic

maybe early load management issues

[cedar agate]

I have gpt plus but it won't read pdfs

[normal quarry]

this seems like a ChatGPT bug that some people have been getting. Post a report to #1070006915414900886 and reach out to https://help.openai.com for assistance

[cedar agate]

is there a way to fix it?

[normal quarry]

you need to contact support, they can help you

[limber oxide]

''Currently, there is no way to check how many messages you have used in your usage budget.

'' (about how many prompts left)

i mean why they dont fix this? should be simple and very helpfull

[cedar agate]

I need gpt asap

[normal quarry]

it might be dynamically variable based on demand, I am not sure why they don't specify the limit

[normal quarry]

I hear you but you need to reach out to support for help with this bug

[limber oxide]

so u are with chat gpt pro? is it worth it?

[normal quarry]

yes, day 1 I think it is worth it, let's see how I feel after 4 weeks

[cedar agate]

how do I reach out to them

[limber oxide]

why u think it is worth it

[normal quarry]

go to https://help.openai.com and click the little chat bubble in the bottom right hand side of the screen

[normal quarry]

$300 AUD is what it costs me, I have done more programming with Pro today than I would get an outsourced developer to work for me to acheive what I have done

[limber oxide]

the o1 pro is much better than o1 for programming?

and last question
o1 pro has prompt limits?

[normal quarry]

I am not sure yet, ask me again in a few days. I have only used o1 Pro about 15 times because it is very slow

[limber oxide]

I see

very slow u mean
5 minutes to answer something?

instead of 40 seconds

[normal quarry]

8 minutes for a hello world program in Swift

[sick pecan]

Autodesk Maya Monthly Subscription: $215–$235 USD
Autocad Revit Annual subscription: $2,545 USD
... professionals pay top dollar for worthwhile software

[limber oxide]

oh

well it will be improved

o1 pro has prompt limits?

[normal quarry]

yes and early demand will be high, give them a few days to smooth things out

[sick pecan]

everyone wants to count r's in strawberry today

[normal quarry]

It does but I don't know what they are

[rose spire]

“Does” o1 pro has prompt limits*

[limber oxide]

idc lol]

well good night

[rose spire]

[cloud pewter]

how many context length for plus and is this the cause of the system cutting chats off because of “this conversation is too long” instead of just forgetting stuff?

[sick pecan]

plus and teams is 32k, pro and enterprise is 128k

[cloud pewter]

so we paying $20 per month but no full version 4o. Openai at its peak

[sick pecan]

freemium is only 8k, so its something

[frozen birch]

omg, o1 pro can analyse 9166 words at once and make from that structured document, wow

[sick pecan]

llm speedreading the underrated superpower

[cloud pewter]

or will they surprise drop it for plus users alongside with better avm in the next 11 days?

[sick pecan]

rumour is gpt4.5 preview be dropping for teams sub

[cloud pewter]

I often let it write stories and when it gets absurdly long it’ll get cut off by the system instead of just the llm forgetting about context

[cloud pewter]

I mean team is good with only +$5 and double the usage, but you really need someone to share with you and you need to pay annually so it’s $600 upfront.

[sick pecan]

i found someone on this server

so its possible

[cloud pewter]

do they ask you to pay monthly or pay $300 upfront?

[drowsy tinsel]

I strongly advice against purchasing chatgpt pro if u really need unlimited o1

chatgpt pro has a cap of 100 o1 requests per day

it's not unlimited by any means

[frozen birch]

where you get that info?
from what ive readed its unlimited

[drowsy tinsel]

DM

or I can just post x/RealJosephus/status/1864922092015091774

[frozen birch]

even in terms there is "unlimited" hmmm

[frozen birch]

thanks, i will check it out

oh well, i think its fake, OpenAi writes everywhere that is unlimited of course you cant abuse it

[crisp cairn]

unlimited with "do not use it too often"??

[frozen birch]

@crisp cairn
Understanding Unlimited Usage

The ChatGPT Pro plan offers unlimited access to our o1, o1-mini, and ChatGPT-4o models. However, usage must adhere to our Terms of Use, which prohibits, among other things:

Abusive usage, such as automatically or programmatically extracting data.

Sharing your account credentials or making your account available to anyone else.

Reselling access or using ChatGPT to power third-party services.

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9793128-what-is-chatgpt-pro

[trail juniper]

unlimited with "near"

The new ChatGPT Pro plan offers **near **unlimited access to our o1, o1-mini, and ChatGPT-4o models. However, usage must adhere to our Terms of Use, which prohibits, among other things:
https://help.openai.com/en/articles/9824962-openai-o1-and-o1-mini-usage-limits-on-chatgpt-and-the-api

[frozen birch]

hm.... this is misleading informations i must admit

one site shows other info , and second one other.

[sick pecan]

limited unlimited is false advertising

[frozen birch]

we see, im using now pro even for normal chatting

so if will be true i fast reach limit

[sick pecan]

i mean maybe you get more than 50 o1-mini per day?

tbh i use o1-mini way more than o1-preview

[frozen birch]

hm im thinking you know now? because those 2 siites has in some way other informations

[sick pecan]

i speak fluent drunk but even i dont understand that

[frozen birch]

just out of curiousity i will ask support about this. 😉

[sick pecan]

cool cool

[frozen birch]

btw you had in mind my english? 😛 i know that im making so fatal errors

[inland heron]

o1 released? Or did they just rename the o1-preview? 😄

[normal quarry]

o1 released

[frozen birch]

released this night

[inland heron]

is it good? 😄

any difference to preview?

[normal quarry]

yes, it's better

quicker

[inland heron]

that's something at least.do you know of limits? I read above 100 per day? Used to be 50 for preview per week

[normal quarry]

for Pro users o1 is unlimited

[inland heron]

oh wait, Pro thing is also new 😄

I'm reading now

so free Plus Pro?

[normal quarry]

yes, ChatGPT Pro is $200USD per month

[inland heron]

😵‍💫

jesus

what's the limit for Plus users?

[normal quarry]

$300 AUD a month if you subscribe through the iOS app, works out cheaper than spending $200USD on your credit card due to currency conversion

[normal quarry]

I think it's 50 messages per week to o1 but some people claim it's only 30

I cannot test because I upgraded from ChatGPT Plus to ChatGPT Pro

[inland heron]

according to OpenAI's charts, O1 is better than preview so I'd assume it's probably not above 50

I will test over time

[frozen birch]

Robert what are you first thoughts about o1 pro model?

[inland heron]

"With a ChatGPT Plus or Team account, you have access to 50 messages a week with OpenAI o1 and 50 messages a day with OpenAI o1-mini to start. "

[normal quarry]

amazing but it tales a very long time to think even for simple requests

[inland heron]

straight from openai

[normal quarry]

o1 Pro took 8 minutes to write me a "hello world" program for Swift

[frozen birch]

ph yea, same here.
im using it for analyse heavy bunch of code and i must sasay that is great, but he thinkins so slow, like Budda 😉

i call him Budda Pro 😄

@normal quarry 8 min? holy sweet jesus

[normal quarry]

bear in mind that the load demand may be high as it is with new things, it may be better at doing stuff

I need to go for 20 minutes, I will be back happy to answer more questions in 20

[frozen birch]

yea, true. Many people has started to testing it

[inland heron]

Is Budda a model, or are you referring to the Buddha, the founder of Buddhism? 😄

[frozen birch]

sure thing bro 🙂

[frozen birch]

haha, Budda the model, because he thinking like a zen master 😄

[sick pecan]

the path of enlightenment is paved with hallucinations

[dawn sentinel]

Isn't it suppose to think? Or maybe this is the free version.

[normal quarry]

o1 is quick, it never thinks for a really long time anymore

o1 Pro is much slower

[elfin lava]

Honestly I asked ChatGPT on how it feels about the pro plan and the price and should I invest em and ChatGPT straight up said “ RM 999.90 a month? Unless you’re rolling in cash or planning to turn ChatGPT into your full-time business consultant-slash-sidekick, maybe hold off for now. Let’s keep it real” so yea thank u ChatGPT for convincing me to not get it for now 🙈