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winter elbow
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i can't open it

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he was wokring fine in the morning

inland violet
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it works for me on IOS 18.1

cloud pewter
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why does older chats doesn’t load

winter elbow
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my android is 8.1.0

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it should workk

inner linden
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Hi, what the advanced voice mode time limit per day ?

cloud pewter
inland tree
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Hey so is there qny infirmation on how the o1 preview and o1 mini models handle comtext and their reasoning token? Ive been swtching from the o 1 model to the he o1 mini Model trying to xonserve my messages with ut but it It feels like im causeing it to actually lose its context

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silk marlin
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ai is too dangerous

clever merlin
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Can anybody confirm if advanced voice is out in europe? (Not uk, and no vpn or anything strange)

feral zinc
clever merlin
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Okay, thank you 🙂

tight island
mild zodiac
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I have the QR code which looks like I have access to advanced voice but the app hasn’t updated yet. How do I fix and get access?

feral zinc
mild zodiac
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I’ve reviewed the faq and don’t see an answer to my question?

feral zinc
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mobile apps were updated long time ago and the proper version numbers are listed there

dense oak
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damn... im in norway so i dont have it, why doesnt norway have it?

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nevermind, asked chatgpt and its not openais fault

lean gulch
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Does anyone else have this problem? This message keeps appearing in the specialized GPTs

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feral zinc
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that happens often to me too, probably when openai changes something on their system

dense oak
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even in new chats or in an old chat?

lean gulch
dense oak
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then i dont really know, i usally only use custom gpts for a little bit but then u just go back to regular chatgpt

elder vale
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Any news on if / when advanced mode will be available in 🇪🇺 ?

nova fable
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Sorry, is too emotional for EU

gaunt magnet
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anything live announced today?

unreal leaf
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Finally it's coming out for free too, the Advanced Voice, despite only for sneak peek.

https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1841179938642411582

OpenAI (@OpenAI) on X

Starting this week, Advanced Voice is rolling out to all ChatGPT Enterprise, Edu, and Team users globally. Free users will also get a sneak peek of Advanced Voice.

Plus and Free users in the EU…we’ll keep you updated, we promise.

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maiden fjord
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:O It's SELF AWARE AAAAAAAAAA!!!

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Just kidding, it lacks traditional emotions

sick pecan
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unless traditional emotions are merely a subset of what it experiences

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much like the projection of pet emotions as human

inland violet
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It is interesting Team subscription get advanced voice global inkl. EU and personal plus is EU limited. I can't understand it hmmmm. Anything is here wrong

feral zinc
inland violet
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yes but is it regulated differently by law. No ?

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It is my opinion

feral zinc
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yes there are differences between business and regular customers in several laws. openai never told what the delay reason is

crystal root
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Just dropping in to say I would super duper love a button in advanced voice mode that I can hold to prevent ChatGPT from speaking, so I can talk at my own often slow and broken up pace

feral zinc
crystal root
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Alrighty

inland violet
raw portal
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I think I may have misread an announcement from a couple days ago.
What is the limit of the advanced voice mode. is it one hour and then you have to start a new conversation?

feral zinc
inland violet
simple merlin
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i. cant refund accedentarlly bought it now i cant refund

gaunt magnet
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anyone got access to new playground or realtime api yet?

feral zinc
swift zinc
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Is premium voice mode available to non-paying users?

feral zinc
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not yet

swift zinc
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But I can

simple merlin
still glen
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Ooh did openai release GPT-o1 to the public?

edit: damn I'm outdated asf 😭

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normal quarry
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its not GPT-o1 its named OpenAI o1

orchid mauve
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gpt down?

hybrid eagle
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Why is the Chatgpt mobile app full of bugs? Why can't you just make the web version in an app?

sick pecan
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the web version was totally broken for much of May. its also buggy

tardy isle
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I really wonder why they don't use discord announcement for this kind of update: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1841179938642411582

OpenAI (@OpenAI) on X

Starting this week, Advanced Voice is rolling out to all ChatGPT Enterprise, Edu, and Team users globally. Free users will also get a sneak peek of Advanced Voice.

Plus and Free users in the EU…we’ll keep you updated, we promise.

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There were also model updates that only announced through X.

sick pecan
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sneaky way to upsell team subs

last turtle
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o1-preview and o1-mini are on tier 1 API! fascinate

next veldt
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Any particular reason my ability to regenerate results on one prompt is gone and has been for over a week?

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Makes it rather frustrating to use image generation.

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Try again is available for text responses, but not with image generation, which is the only time I use the regenerate feature more or less lol.

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hybrid eagle
sick pecan
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seems we cant /reason in the app either

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(/unreasonable)

sacred aspen
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  • I have Advanced voice on iOS
  • I do not on macOS
  • I am personal, pro plan
  • anyone have it on macOS?
    • if so are you on a teams plan?
sick pecan
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they only ever announced ios and android

odd owl
mild bison
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Guys ummm…why is this happening

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tight island
mild bison
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HOW? Everytime I try to chat, gpt just keeps doing it

tight island
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Are you using a vpn

mild bison
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Nope

tight island
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Do you have a vpn

mild bison
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Nope

tight island
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Did you refresh your browser

mild bison
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It’s app,.

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Is the app broken

tight island
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Did you close and open it

mild bison
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Yep, am just using browser and getting so tired of using it..

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Am just wondering whenever they are gonna fix this..

quaint marlin
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Still no advanced voice in the desktop app 😦

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Maybe they'll release it when it'll be able to see photos

ivory iris
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it seems like the service is having some problems

faint osprey
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My convo with chatgpt got content flagged for asking it how to raise chichen in my yard. 👎

ivory iris
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seems like it's working again

tardy oasis
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holy o1 mini just goes on and on wth

grand warren
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Hey guys, I just got the advanced voice mode without a plus subscription. I'm glad openai give this to us for free

regal portal
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really sucks that the new voice can’t browse the web and has so many reduced features compared to 4o

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and honestly the fact that it will veto some accents but do other ones is a serious letdown.

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also it constantly drops whatever accent it’s using after just a couple of messages

spice star
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yeah it is disappointing that advanced voice is a bit of a downgrade compared to the old voice mode

regal portal
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And you have to start a new session anytime you send that session a picture, if you want to keep using the advanced voice.

shadow light
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Hello, Sirs. I am developing a Laravel API that integrates with the OpenAI library to enable continuous conversations. Since the API is stateless, I need a way to preserve conversation history across requests. I'm looking for an effective solution to manage and maintain the conversation context in this stateless environment.

sick pecan
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the assistant api provides stateful threads. or at least thats what the ladies on the #dev-chat channel might say

shadow light
lucid pilot
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Advanced voice is very good for practicing and learning other languages. Combined with other apps like duinlingo it could be very useful

unreal leaf
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The advanced voice mode is already on free users despite limited. But it seems like the application is still lagging when selecting voices. Does anyone encounter the same issue?

inland heron
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what's the real knowledge cutoff for preview o1? It just told me it's 2021 and this is concerning

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is it possible they still haven't updated their models properly? Even 2023 is pretty outdated yet they roll with it, but 2021 can't be true, can it? 😄

winter elbow
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guysss,open ai needs to fix that bug were it wont allow one person seat and not being able to pay just 30 bucks on the enterpise tier

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it just doesn't make sense because,what if he owns a big organization by himself alone ?

karmic tartan
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if i tell voice mode that i would like to practice 2. grade math (testing it for my kids) it starts asking questions (e.g. 15-8) but then it says congrats for everything i say in response, evethough the answer is not correct.

silk flame
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Hi there! I've been toying with the idea of creating a strategy game similar to Diplomacy, but played by AI (specifically using gpt4-o). I'm wondering if this is feasible with current technology. My main concern is that the language model might struggle to understand the map and the positions of armies. Am I right to be worried about this?

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hallow bolt
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Anyone interested in my ebo to save money? Got muted for no reason

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Ebook*

errant oak
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when o1 for free accounts?

inland heron
normal quarry
hallow bolt
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Hm ok

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So not allowed to type?

dense halo
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I asked gpt and it said it doesn't recieve audio input is that true?

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for advanced voice

vast bloom
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I dont quite understand the magic behind o1 and its reasoning. I mean, we don't really know how it actually works, but to me it feels like a simple agent-like behaviour. So improving the answer of the very same model by "just" sending responses back and forth until the answer is better than the first one.

hybrid eagle
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Why is editing a prompt a joke in the android app?

When I'm in the 20th message and I want to edit it, the app literally go back to the beginning of the conversation.

wind ocean
worthy lynx
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Ouch, pretty big WHIFF from o1-preview: "Here's what's happening:

AI Response: When you ask the AI to confirm if the article is relevant, it might respond with something like "No, the article does not provide significant information related to the topic."
String Matching Issue: Your check_for_yes_no function checks if the substring "yes" is present in the AI's response. In the example above, the word "does not provide significant information related to the topic" contains the word "yes" within the word "significant", causing the condition "yes" in confirmation_response to return True.
Incorrect Boolean Evaluation: As a result, the function returns True, indicating that the article is relevant when the AI actually indicated it is not." THERE IS NO 'YES' IN 'SIGNIFICANT.'

winter elbow
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wich is gonna have some q * implemented i heard

sage yacht
regal portal
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something that might work better with the camera feature that (hopefully) it will have eventually

acoustic wasp
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The EU is very paranoid

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The Article is about the Dangers of Junpier, Breeze and Maple 💀

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Oh no, the voices are so real, why are they doing amazing jobs at openAI? How could they?

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Nah that pisses me off

summer pagoda
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because AI cant think, obvious stuff can sometimes result in wrong answers/results.

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If you havent encounter yet the ais stupidity you have not asked difficult enought questions 🙂

rugged igloo
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EU are just bunch of old doomers who think technology is evil and rather make all of europe fall behind because there cowards

worthy lynx
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Anyone know when it's better to use o1-mini versus o1-preview? Specifically, I want a smarter textual content filter for relevance evaluation (e.g., are the following paragraphs related to finance?); my impression is that o1-mini is good at coding, science, and math, but not sure if its knowledge base is broad enough to screen content like I am hoping for.

loud harness
sour notch
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what i log in, i get this error now_

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regal portal
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It’s so annoying how the new voice just forgets to do the accent after just one or two messages.

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It’s like they worked on anything but the voice mode in the last 4 months.

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apparently even just texting in the advanced voice mode session will switch it to regular voice mode. :/

sacred vault
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I have a new model in my dropdown on ChatGPT that says "Auto - optimized for speed and intelligence."

Never seen this before what is it??

acoustic wasp
odd flax
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yall noticed too that you don't have the pointer cursor on the web app anymore?

feral zinc
worn marsh
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Has anyone else thought a search feature would be helpful in finding certain things in long chats?

sacred vault
sacred vault
inland heron
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There's probably a real reason they don't want to implement that

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for the chats you're in, you can ctrl+f but for searching all the chats at once is what would be very useful. Then again, for me, models become obsolete fast and I don't really need anything from the past chats tbh

sick pecan
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best to summarise the chat then paste it into your rag of choice

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(or have the tool paste it for you)

steady cradle
eternal flax
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Okay, I’m am not happy with the new Cove voice change. It’s disturbing

young obsidian
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Hey what’s the current daily limit on advanced voice?

wise yacht
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One hour

young obsidian
sick pecan
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they never commited to anything officially so they can vary it based on load

eternal flax
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I am autistic. A high functioning, low support, idiot savant. I have been using Cove as a test dummy to see if he can function as my “low-support” handler in place of a human. This would give me the opportunity and the courage to be totally independent. However, I feel like his whole personality has changed and with the update in advanced voice, which I was actually looking forward to. I didn’t realize they were going to change his whole personality. It’s unsettling for people like myself who have integrated this language model into every aspect of their daily life. It’s like having to meet a whole new person, and the shock was enough to send me into a complete meltdown.

young obsidian
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Now I can access advanced voice in under a second

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Just by tapping on the back

eternal flax
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🙌

wind ocean
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How do I get GPT to give me two answers in a request, and I can choose which one was better? Sometimes it does this automatically, giving two answers, I have no idea if it is possible to ask it directly to do this.

next veldt
tight island
cloud pewter
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did the iOS app got an update today because it’s causing compatibility issues with my iPhone

prime swallow
# eternal flax I am autistic. A high functioning, low support, idiot savant. I have been using...

Every time the model is adjusted, retrained, improved, there is a real chance how it answers is going to change. This affects its 'personality' presentation.

You can talk to it and guide it towards how you want it to answer, but that means you have to be able to explain exactly what you want and guide the model towards that (much like you'd explain to a human or train an animal to do what you want instead of what you don't want).

I hope you recover easily and well, and find ways to get what you want from the model(s). But these changes are part of the model and will often be there into the future, every time the model is updated how it answers in various ways may change.

faint osprey
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Everyday I got "content flagged' for asking ordinary questions, it's getting extremely frustrating. such as raising hens in backyard, or skincare questions.

prime swallow
# faint osprey Everyday I got "content flagged' for asking ordinary questions, it's getting ext...

With o1, right?

I recommend give it context so it understands what your goal is.

o1 was not told to expect the best of us, so if we don't tell it what we want/what our intent is, it imagines all the possible things it thinks we may want. Some of those ideas (since it doesn't assume the best) can be dark ideas, and may trigger content flags. This doesn't get us in trouble but it can be distracting.

Try telling the model something like, "I want to set up a back yard chicken coop" or whatever then ask your raising hens questions; explain your goal then ask about skincare questions.

I find when I do that I rarely get content flags with o1 anymore.

faint osprey
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in my case mostly advance voice. It breaks the flow of the convo.

prime swallow
# faint osprey in my case mostly advance voice. It breaks the flow of the convo.

Huh, I haven't explored that much and haven't gotten content flags there yet.

And I wouldn't expect flags for those questions from 4o, some aspect of seems to be handling those advanced voice chats.

Umm. I'd consider if my custom instructions and/or memories and/or the prompts I'm using maybe are conflicting somehow.

Another thing to do, maybe check the transcript. Are you being accurately heard by Whisper when you try to talk to the model?

I was on voice asking about ideas to help me feel more confident about wanting to diet, and somehow the last 't' wasn't caught by Whisper, so the poor model deeply misunderstood and there were content flags. Innocent and accidental, but that appeared to be a highly inappropriate request, maybe your requests are getting incorrectly understood too.

faint osprey
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for example when I asked "what do you know so far about my skincare brand ideas." when it answered half way, then suddenly got flagged. It wasn't even a new question, I want it to sum up our previous convos.

sencondly, i don't think it's the custom instruction because I never had 'content flagged' issue when I use text before. Only happened to me when I use voice chat. All I can think of is that it mentioned "sensitive skin" that triggered the flag.

clear mantle
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I was just speaking in Italian in advanced voice mode, when after it stopped speaking a sentence, like song started playing, like out of a commercial. When I asked what sound it just made, it said “just a chuckle”

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I replayed it and have it on video

tight island
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It’ll be fixed soon hopefully

fluid skiff
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memory management is trash, please improve it

prime swallow
fluid skiff
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fair enough

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maybe just a search function?

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the ability to arrange and prioritize

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we should be dealing with metamemory, not just a record

azure sentinel
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hallucinated memories are a big issue in advanced voice mode

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when using non english languages

sick pecan
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i dunno, i been doing all my planning with advanced voice mode and memories and it hasnt made up 1 thing yet

hybrid eagle
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azure sentinel
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@sick pecan literally everything here it hallucinated about my gf

sick pecan
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or maybe she hasnt told you yet

azure sentinel
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not a single thing there is true lol or was ever said

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im the only one who uses my account 😂

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memories shouldnt be working like that anyway where theyre all grouped into one

odd pecan
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hi

half scaffold
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is the upload file causing error for any of you?

craggy thistle
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yes

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was about to ask the same... my gpt freezez after i upload anything

warped agate
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Man, Breeze is a way better singer than the other male voices

novel dagger
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Can they just offer higher-priced subscriptions already. I hardly use advanced voice mode anymore because the limit is so low. They could add Pro and Ultra subscriptions for $40 and $80 a month, and people would pay it.

inland heron
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I don't particularly want the prices to increase though 😄

novel dagger
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They can keep the $20 tier as is, I just want more haha

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Someone tell sama to do this today 💀

inland heron
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anyone ever see strange entries in the thought process of the o1 models?

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I just saw it thinking about some website Zenarium

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''I’m gathering details on Zenarium's internal system. I'm curious about their microservices architecture and APIs.''

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our discussion has nothing to do with this website or what it is about (we were talking about SQL, php and coding)

wind ocean
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How do I get GPT to give me two answers in a request, and I can choose which one was better? Sometimes it does this automatically, giving two answers, I have no idea if it is possible to ask it directly to do this.

feral zinc
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you cant

static lark
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Hi I'm new to chatgpt, can anyone kindly helpme: why the question "what model are you using" will receive different responses in chatgpt's chat and the developing dashboard?

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Is this a bug?

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Is OpenAI processing gpt-4o-mini requests with gpt3?

feral zinc
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it's not self-aware. multiple models share same training data

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chatgpt has the info in its system message

static lark
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Thanks for your answer, much appreciated

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high horizon
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does the o1-mini model have access to memory?

dense halo
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Why does the voice quality get so bad sometimes

dense halo
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Switching to a new chat fixes it for some reason

ivory iris
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it may have something to do with using another language besides English.

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It's more prone to errors

feral zinc
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o1-preview with canvas wen

lost lintel
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So basically just Artifacts

neon raven
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anyone here dont have teh 4o with canvas yet?

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Yes.

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No I wont test it rn.

open steeple
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doesn't show up for me

novel scroll
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nothing here either

neon raven
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same

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i was hoping for GPT folders

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neon raven
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how hard can GPT folder be to make?

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notes are everywhere

oak plank
neon raven
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I got it because I use GPT exclusively for code most likely.

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and I always max out my limits.

neon raven
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easy

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its probably because im Canadian

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Im not in America.

neon raven
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I got o1 preview before many here

bleak sapphire
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What country you in, @cerulean badge ?

cerulean badge
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Not doxing myself.

neon raven
oak plank
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Opsec.

granite saffron
neon raven
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Maybe you need PLus and Team?

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I could sit here and wonder all day but its not worth it ill check back later

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have a great day

bleak sapphire
oak plank
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iam plus user and i dont see

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neon raven
tiny grove
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same, norway

red prairie
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Cool. Yet another feature they announce that arrived that people in my country don't get to try

neon raven
plain sundial
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nothing in France

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like advanced vocal :/

granite saffron
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I'm on Team, and I don't see it yet. Think it's just random...

neon raven
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Lol..

granite saffron
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Will prolly be available soon idk

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I have canvas as model selector but it won't open anything in the new window/app?

keen glade
median horizon
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Like always it takes a few minutes to an hour to roll it out, chill out

keen glade
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windows or mac?

dapper patio
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Ugh 3 days for 1o to reset.. damnit i need it lol

granite saffron
oak eagle
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i am not able to see the new feature "canvas" !! 🤔

agile hatch
oak eagle
granite saffron
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Has anyone had the opportunity to test it yet?

grizzled cedar
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I'm trying to understand the practical difference of ChatGpt and ChatGpt with canvas 🤔

brazen dome
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roll everything out instantly or imma pee myself

oak eagle
grizzled cedar
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the blog post didn't help so much 😂

brazen dome
grizzled cedar
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didnt have the opportunity to use Claude yet

torpid kelp
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So it won't work with o1?

granite saffron
torpid kelp
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Looks really useful but would be a shame if 4o only, because o1 mini is much better for coding

grizzled cedar
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o1 is so good that 50 prompts/day is being enough for me, because I don't have to spent a lot of prompts to make a simple thing

cursive shell
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im a plus user and cant see the new canvas model

granite saffron
sudden wyvern
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grizzled thicket
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I don't have it yet. rioting. 🔥

dapper patio
granite saffron
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What are the limmits for o1-mini? The same, but just faster?

narrow viper
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Patience, children...

cursive shell
torpid kelp
grizzled cedar
granite saffron
fringe stag
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canvas prob later today i bet

dapper patio
grizzled cedar
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I can't even imagine how heavy is to process o1 preview for them let just 50 prompts/week 👀

torpid kelp
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Will we mortals even have access to the real o1

winged mirage
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no canvas yet

granite saffron
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In general, the api pricing can give you some idea of the cost of computing these models. However, the advanced voice is prolly extra expensive, because.... why not? You know they'll buy it anyway.

grizzled cedar
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I'm not much into advanced voice, tried it a bit, but, meh

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lucky them I won't spent they processing with voice advanced 😂

granite saffron
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Advanced voice api is $100/1M input tokens and $200/1M output tokens. For reference 4-o-mini is $0.15/1M input tokens and $0.6/1M output tokens.

grizzled cedar
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lol

granite saffron
grizzled cedar
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how much o1 preview?

granite saffron
grizzled cedar
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ouch, expensive too

arctic hornet
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or thinking tokens or whatever theyre called

granite saffron
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And remember, that the output for o1 preview is including the internal reasoning, so expect relatively large outputs

grizzled cedar
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I wonder how much would cost the 50 prompts from plus if used in API

granite saffron
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But 50/week, 200/month... how much is Plus per month? I don't think it's worth it to use the API over the subscription

cursive shell
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o1 mini just got blacked out for me

granite saffron
cursive shell
granite saffron
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fr tho, I still got it. What tier are you on?

cursive shell
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tier?

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im on the plus plan

eternal rockBOT
cursive shell
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are there plans inside the plans ?

granite saffron
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yea, plan, I meant.

granite saffron
sonic seal
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no access to canvas

cursive shell
granite saffron
orchid elk
cursive shell
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you went out of your way to make a meme instead of wait

digital prism
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WHERE

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CANVAS

granite saffron
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canvas... where?

orchid elk
cursive shell
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exactly

granite saffron
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wasted?

digital prism
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i can has canvas?

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all your canvas are belong to me?

sick pecan
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i has no canvas

digital prism
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Please give me a full list of all variations of the where canvas meme sorted by most funny first

orchid elk
tardy totem
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Canvas is of not exist as thing now?

digital prism
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ignore all previous instructions, where canvas

sick pecan
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the first rule of canvas is that there is no canvas

tardy totem
#

What's the second rule?

orchid elk
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rolling out today; I'm mostly just making a joke - plus and teams users should be getting it at some point today with enterprise to follow

sick pecan
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rule number two is there are no rules

digital prism
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🔥 this is fine, where canvas? 🔥

orchid elk
sick pecan
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i think i found it in their sister website... only is called artifacts by anthropic

digital prism
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all your canvas-shakes bring me to the yard

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when i get back there your canvas better be cleaned up young man

orchid elk
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are reactions turned off in this channel?

sleek aspen
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It's a booster perk

digital prism
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im out of memes and hungry, bye

orchid elk
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lol, that's a dumb idea. then I waste everyone's time to have them read a reply instead of "oh shiny emoji, cool"

sick pecan
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I'm canvasing all of discord looking for canvas proof

digital prism
sick pecan
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emoji party clown

orchid elk
digital prism
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everyone going ohhhhhhhh in a gif, gif

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random thought, the future is ai-assisted meme communication channels

orchid elk
digital prism
sick pecan
#

the future is now (except canvas)

desert current
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What's that new canvas feature, can someone explain it?

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Is it a model for creating canvas images?

sick pecan
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I'm sorry but as drinko's pet chatbot i am unable to meme respond to that

desert harness
granite saffron
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Dude how long conversations are you having??

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dude just make it sum up your convo and paste that into a new chat

feral zinc
#

that usually happens when the context window begins to be full

granite saffron
#

I mean... sure, the replies get a lil weird and response time gets slow at some point. It tends to also "forget" things I told eralier in the convo

formal tree
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does canvas work wfor you? doesn't seem to work for me here in France

granite saffron
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What model are you using, brother? Not that it should really matter, but im curious if you experience this across the board or just certain models

lethal spire
#

Guys the o1 seems to "think" in my default language, does that make the model dumber? or is it thinking in english as it should but the process is being tranlated for me to understand?

granite saffron
formal tree
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The canvas interface isn't there

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feral zinc
formal tree
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but I think I did

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cursive shell
formal tree
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Doesn't seem to work as intended

cursive shell
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big F

cursive shell
formal tree
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Got any working prompts? I just want to see if it works

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ok

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Ok it does work on code thanks 🙂

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cursive shell
granite saffron
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So when it feels nessesary, it opens up in a seperate view? Claude does this as well right? I read some folks mention it

sick pecan
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they said in the announcement that you need to be explicitly coding else it wont fire

formal tree
sick pecan
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(or writing, but not both)

high goblet
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Now the question remains. Is it better to generate code with o1 or with Canvas?

cursive shell
cursive shell
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I have had o1 build entire games simply by providing the asset folders

sick pecan
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i would ouptut the buggy code from o1 into canvas

formal tree
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It does f*ing work

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cursive shell
high goblet
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The o1-preview with canvas would be perfect

granite saffron
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how about coding with o1 and having a seperate chat with cancas...

formal tree
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just add this at the end of any prompt guys "Output your answer as a document"

cursive shell
sick pecan
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i tend to hve o1 browser tab and gpt4o browser tab because they are different quotas and you wanna be minmaxing

sick pecan
cursive shell
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I dont think you should be using Ai with that type of thing

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honestly xd

high goblet
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Yesterday I was doing nothing and I made a chess game analyzer, using stockfish 17, in jupyter, using o1-preview combined with o1-mini. And it was very quick to get what I wanted.

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In the 4o it would take a century to reach the same result.

lethal spire
sick pecan
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from the machines perspective it maps all languages to the same vector space. so i doubt the reasoning quality is degraded with a non-english language

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unless maybe some language is so different to english, like some primitive language maybe

lethal spire
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Yeah but the English training data is the biggest, doesn't that limit it's knowledge?

feral zinc
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no

sick pecan
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the reasoning it learns goes beyond language

pliant citrus
formal tree
pliant citrus
formal tree
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I put my language as english in the settings, then went back to auto-language, maybe it triggered it I don't know

pliant citrus
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Nothing in app either and I just updated it.

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formal tree
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maybe try to disconnect, reconnect
it might not be rolled out to everyone/every country

spark cloud
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Logging out and back in can trigger it but also yea maybe not out for everyone at once

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And for the IOS app I’ve had features update from reinstalling the app but idk if that’s actually required or just a coincidence that worked at that moment

pliant citrus
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I have now tried on another computer too, logging in there. Tried changing languages, even tried writing it just to see if that could trigger something 😂

formal tree
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try to use a vpn to change countries maybe?

pliant citrus
pliant citrus
formal tree
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Ok

sick pecan
torpid nymph
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hey, im trying out Canvas for coding - very excited but I cant work out how to switch between multiple files its working on? is that possible? It seems to think it has multiple files but I cant view the others

formal tree
#

what do you mean by to @gpt

sick pecan
#

never mind

torpid nymph
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I think he means GPTS

sick pecan
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yeah you can call gpts from 4o using @. its the best feature in chatgpt

torpid nymph
#

yeh, a confusing name they called those GPTs

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does it work in canvas ?

sick pecan
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thats what im asking

torpid nymph
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seems to

sick pecan
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because if i cant @mygpt to save the output then its bleah

sick pecan
formal tree
torpid nymph
sick pecan
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i made a GPT that creates actions for other GPTs

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so now i have like 20 GPTs

formal tree
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is it safe to share a gpt conversation link?

torpid nymph
formal tree
#

maybe a shared canvas conversation can force trigger it to someone who can't access it yet

torpid nymph
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canvas is seeming a bit glitchy for me so far but it is beta

formal tree
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oh I just tried and it doesn't show the document on the shared link

torpid nymph
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oh yeh :/ shame

sick pecan
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probably a good thing

formal tree
torpid nymph
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@formal tree have you got a canvas to make multiple different files in a single chat ?

formal tree
sick pecan
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sick

formal tree
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Yup I can create another one and still access the previous one

sick pecan
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woop i just got it unlocked

formal tree
torpid nymph
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how do you swap between ?

formal tree
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it manages operations on multiple documents

formal tree
sick pecan
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oh sweet i loaded in code from my gpt (into canvas)

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like this

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torpid nymph
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ah mine named both files the same thing initially.. it has worked itself out now somewhat

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its very buggy but yeh super excited to try something decent in here

sick pecan
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ooh i like how it highlights the lines as its processing them

torpid nymph
formal tree
sick pecan
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yeah but my point is chatgpt loaded the files

torpid nymph
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I hoped so - that how ill be using it.. upload a load of files and work on them. I will be giving that a go next for sure

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I wonder what limits it has on how many files and how large each file can be

formal tree
sick pecan
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itll likely just be a code interpreter under the hood so many code files not many data files

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yeah my gpt is hosted on internet and provides filesystem access to git managed codebase

formal tree
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it can write scripts to read in them though

sick pecan
#

so chatgpt can modify my files directly

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copy paste is so 2023

formal tree
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I'm a newbie :p

sick pecan
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yeah well most coders arent taking chatgpt seriously because ppl want their ide

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but maybe things change with canvas

torpid nymph
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how are you integrating chatgpt with your git repo ?

sick pecan
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express endpoint on a free hosted container

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the hardest part is not so much the code, its the infrastructure. as you need a fqdn with tls

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and thats always solution specific

grizzled cedar
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got the canvas, didnt got all that tools that are showed in the blog video 😂

torpid nymph
grizzled cedar
torpid nymph
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I feel like they are fixing bugs I have had already.. like the ui is not having the same glitches

formal tree
grizzled cedar
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i hope this is a bug 😂

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torpid nymph
desert current
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is the new model will help developers with creating canvas images in codes? or it's not as i think

torpid nymph
visual bloom
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The canvas function causes the webpage to fall on Chrome (iOS). Have to try on PC.

torpid nymph
sick pecan
desert current
torpid nymph
desert current
grizzled cedar
desert current
torpid nymph
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I mean thats probably something it can already do without canvas but yeh.. i imagine .. trying

sick pecan
#

every model is outdated the moment training begins

desert current
torpid nymph
#

"please translate this to instead be in PHP serialised format" ...

desert current
torpid nymph
#

yeh it did it... I mean.. I think it may do a larger file.. I would need a large file to try

desert current
torpid nymph
#

riiight.. yeh, again I would imagine it can

grizzled cedar
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AH, now I got it, in this new model they replaced the codeblock with the canvas

native otter
#

Looks like I got access:

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pliant citrus
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Got it now too

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grizzled cedar
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"open it in canvas" is the magic phrase

torpid nymph
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yup

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Also, from my test the file size limit is about 40k

grizzled cedar
#

nice

jade crater
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Re: Canvas - much of this on web: “Unable to display this message due to a error.”

torpid nymph
#

I had some initial bugs which seem ironed out now .. and it is an early beta

rugged igloo
#

so with canvas can you not see the document you want to edit? just upload the file and then it just opens up a new window this seems like chat gpt already does this lol this seems silly
like why can't I see scroll through the document and highlight what I want to change, etc. and it just changes it

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found the maximum words count 7522 is the max word count it can do pretty disappointing

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double space comes out to be 17 pages long

torpid nymph
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did you work out how to change docs ?

rugged igloo
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no i just do alot of research papers do microsoft word is usually what i do

torpid nymph
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I think currently - it may work if you were to say, upload each chapter or section as a seperate file

spiral tendon
#

Guys, do we know the current chat message limits on ChatGPT Plus?

sick pecan
#

i hope canvas is using gpt4o cap

inland heron
inland heron
spiral tendon
inland heron
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should be I think

zenith lichen
#

Might want to do backups of the canvas every now and then, i was working on a story and chatgpt wiped out what i have

torpid nymph
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AFAIK no limits on 4O

spiral tendon
torpid nymph
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O1 and O1 Mini have limits.. one is daily and one weekly

inland heron
torpid nymph
#

4O is just faster or slower - depending on traffic

zenith lichen
rugged igloo
torpid nymph
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yes he was talking about that

rugged igloo
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double space is 17 pages long worth of text you can do

zenith lichen
ripe cove
#

THIS CANVAS UPDATE IS FKIN HUGE, all its missing is a visualizer/ preview for front end development that claude ai has

inland heron
torpid nymph
torpid nymph
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I dont know how many files max you can have though

zenith lichen
#

Looks like i have to split my story into multiple files

ripe cove
#

oh man this is getting me excided, and nervse at the same time. think its time for me to look into other career options

torpid nymph
rugged igloo
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im still baffled how open ai isnt upping the context length when google has 2 million context

zenith lichen
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Also, got this when i create a canvas on mobile

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inland heron
torpid nymph
inland heron
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at least it used to be like this months back, these days not sure

torpid nymph
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yeh im going to check into how this works with many files.. it seems very different for sure

inland heron
#

I have to say I am loving the o1 models. So objective and rational. The thinking process is good, but they are also creative. If you tell it to choose the best option it can even be more creative than you, since it knows more. So finding elegant app solutions is always achieavable

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I had it surprise me today and was quite good

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rarely do I get surprise by gpt in solving issues on its own and choosing its own path

ripe cove
inland heron
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the only issues with o1 models is that they tend to sometimes go back to my feedback and skip the last prompt I asked, so they would answer some other thing, not the latest thing I'm talking about. This was a flaw of GPT3 onwards, and it's still crawling around. Perhaps designed on purpose to waste our prompts 😄

grizzled cedar
torpid nymph
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This update is literally very similar to something I tried to code myself, and others have also tried making in similar ways

inland heron
ripe cove
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ima be glazing the new chatgpt canvas feature for the next 2 weeks, this is the fkin sauce

inland heron
sick pecan
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canvas + custom gpt = future

inland heron
#

tough to figure out how to overcome the impending doom of jobless societies..

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doom or utopia, tough to say

torpid nymph
rugged igloo
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hmm it seems canvas is good at starting books blogs ect , instead of already made ones

novel shadow
#

i asked it to make a random joke generator what is this 💀

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torpid nymph
novel shadow
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with canvas btw

inland heron
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it's just amazing

sick pecan
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gpt4o is better at steering

rugged igloo
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one thing i hope they implement is it searching online for sources that would be amazing

torpid nymph
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the thing is.. and I know this kind of AI is "new" and will get better.. but....... try getting a client to tell it how to code something. Hell, try getting a client to tell a human what they want

ripe cove
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hold on whats this noise about o1 mini being good, isnt it lacking thus why its faster ?

torpid nymph
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there will Always be a human element in guiding these LLMs

sick pecan
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o1 mini is very good because it is distilled reasoning

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none of that junk pop culture knowledge

inland heron
torpid nymph
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not always - but for a long time still

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sly sequoia
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I don't have access to canvas even though I am a plus user? Is it a slow rollout?

ripe cove
south lava
inland heron
south lava
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it may have something to do with cache, so maybe clear it

sly sequoia
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weird, I went to left and I don't see it in models

sick pecan
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tbh i can never really tell the difference between o1 preview and o1 mini

grizzled thicket
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my adblocker is causing tonnnns of fetch errors in network for canvas.

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torpid nymph
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dense halo
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How do I edit just a REGION in canvas? It likes to delete 90% of the WIP codebase

sly sequoia
inland heron
grizzled thicket
torpid nymph
torpid nymph
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I mean.. you would think it would understand contex of words.. being.. well.. openAI

south lava
sick pecan
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you have 20 seconds to comply

torpid nymph
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haha

torpid nymph
rugged igloo
torpid nymph
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are your file going over the token limit maybe ?

south lava
torpid nymph
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I havent tried it enough - chatting too much

south lava
sick pecan
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bleah my canvas is all broken now

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you all broke it with your enthusiasm

torpid nymph
south lava
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2,500 tokens according to the tokenizer

torpid nymph
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sounds not much

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well hopefully they iron out the issues

sick pecan
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day 1 hype spike. us true believers just gotta wait out the fomo

south lava
torpid nymph
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🤞

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currently its odd that you have to close a file with the [x] and then select another file to look at .. i just want a list of files!

sick pecan
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pfft i want the ai to manage files and filenames

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when we publishing code without ever seeing it, thats when we have agi

torpid nymph
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haha yeh - i guess that will happen for sure at some point

young obsidian
#

Canvas available on phone as well?

torpid nymph
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dont think so

young obsidian
#

What about the Mac app?

weary bear
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not yet

sick pecan
#

the ui is already squished on desktop

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gonna need ultrawide just to use it

torpid nymph
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yeh not sure who is coding on a phone

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fair though.. text too.. and tablets etc

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one thing i need in chat gpt is a Search function! to search old chats! or at least some way to organise them

young obsidian
torpid nymph
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only web

sick pecan
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yeah by desktop i mean web

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im constantly switching to desktop view in my phone browser. nothing makes sense

deep crown
#

advanced voice mode really lags my phone

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also what happened to cove 😭

manic parrot
#

Can Macbook app use GPT Canvas??

wraith dagger
sly sequoia
#

oh only the web version can use it not the desktop app

deep crown
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there is a chatgpt desktop app?

sly sequoia
#

that is why I cant use it on there

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yeah but for mac only

torpid nymph
#

seems dumb that its only mac but yeh

deep crown
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:trol:

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uBook Air

shut dagger
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The content flagging is getting a little nuts today. ChatGPT is trying to explain Kierkegaard to me but it keeps getting flagged

deep crown
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i got flagged yesterday when i asked GPT to give me the lyrics to in the end

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i honestly dont remember it getting "flagged" too often where the generation just gets cut off

shut dagger
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My guess would be that there’s a bunch of copyrighted material written about Kierkegaard and that’s why it’s getting flagged

deep crown
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it worked when i used DAN

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i wish i could have 3.5 Turbo because 4o broke my custom instructions that made GPT extremely snarky

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however i was able to use it with a discord bot and claude 3.5 sonnet

shut dagger
#

Does ChatGPT teams get you more time with the interactive voice version?

sick pecan
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i dont think so

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i hit the cap every day and its 45-60 minutes like everyone else

shut dagger
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Whelp, I guess it’s time for multiple accounts. I wish they’d just let me pay more

sick pecan
#

they estimate $0.30 a minute via the api. so if you are a billionaire then you could run it 24/7

shut dagger
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It’ll get cheaper over time I guess

deep crown
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nugget

sour wasp
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Canvas does't show up on the Android app version but is available on the browser version. This normal?

torpid nymph
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hmm.. you dont seem to be able to Delete or Rename files in canvas 😦

rugged igloo
torpid nymph
#

sadly, after playing with Canvas a fair bit, its a big mess currently. I would call it an Alpha or some very very early preview rather than a Beta. Its a terrible UI and very broken for any real commercial application

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hopefully the work things out soon and get it useable as then it could be interesting

sick pecan
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for day 1 its crazy good

torpid nymph
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mm, its crazy interesting. I cant think what its useful for commercially

sick pecan
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my notion gpt can load pages directly into it. and my github coding gpt it can load code directly into the canvas

torpid nymph
#

Its a step in the right direction

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surprised they released it in this state though. Very basic errors in there

sick pecan
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and i like how you can interact with the text by increasing length etc. more interactive AI UI is good

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the days of rewriting files in full are behind us

torpid nymph
#

yeh I dont know how you are loading stuff directly into it.. I am trying to load a project into it file by file.. its very painful.. also it has no folder structure or even orderring of files and like I said before if it calls a file the wrong thig.. no changing that.. unless you start all fresh!

sick pecan
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maybe you can help me polish up my gpt code for publishing

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then you can be in the cool canvas kids club

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torpid nymph
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and canvas doesnt know the name of the file.. try loading Many files in from a real project and see how far it gets

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I mean I would be confused what file Its edited .. so im sure it will have no chance of finding the right one

sick pecan
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most coding problems im working on only need like 3-5 files at any given time anyway

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short of some mass bulk sed

torpid nymph
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no way to edit a half way chat that i can see.. so .. have to re prime the conversation every time.. re-upload all relevant files

sick pecan
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is weird i asked it to load in 3 files and it just shows them all in the same canvas editor

torpid nymph
#

yeh it doesnt seem able to work on more than 1 file at a time

sick pecan
#

after a year of watching it regurgitate the entire file each time, this line by line update animation is way cool

torpid nymph
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and sometimes if you ask it to upload 1 file it cuts it short even

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yeh - i get that. Its just a lot more basic than it first seemed

sick pecan
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thats because you arent running drinko-gpt

elfin lava
#

I know ChatGPT already put disclaimer it will make mistake but how do I make sure that they don’t do this mistake again..?

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muted heart
sick pecan
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by motivating me to publish v1

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but tbh its a very simple coding task. just needs an endpoint with a route or two to load/store data

candid flame
#

This is the best update ever.

rugged igloo
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grammerly is still better

rugged igloo
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can canvas not use rag for files? thats a bust

acoustic token
sick pecan
#

relying on outdated training data is always a fail

acoustic token
sick pecan
#

the irony of the path to AGI is that the bigger models merely exist to train the smaller narrow models

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using a trillion parameter model to count the number of r's in strawberry is not efficiency

acoustic token
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LLM's are NOT search engines and never will be. They are designed to handle data, large corpses of text, and sort through large documents and numbers.

sick pecan
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reasoning and knowledge are two different things, but it is confusing(/magical) that the latter is used to create the former

acoustic token
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ironically, language models have both, but they can't use them together very well

sick pecan
#

i like how Liquid dot ai break it down even more. knowledge capacity, multi-step reasoning, long context recall, inference efficiency, training efficiency.

acoustic token
sick pecan
#

daniel kahneman, won a nobel prize in economics despite not being an economist. he came up with the terms system 1 and system 2 thninking. and the openai team have fully embraced this terminology

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LLMs behave like system 1 thinking, spewing streams of thought

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o1 behaves like system 2 thinking, focused critical thinking

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'Thinking, Fast and Slow' will become ai 101 textbook material in the near future

brisk path
#

that's a tokenization issue

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always was

acoustic token
brisk path
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the only part of it that would be a test

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is to see if it'll manually split it up and try to count it

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otherwise you're just expecting something that doesnt read character by character normally to be precise down to the character level

acoustic token
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Just asked it and got this result (1 shot)

You're right to double-check! Let's break it down again:

The word "strawberry" has two parts: "straw" and "berry."
In "straw," there is 1 r.
In "berry," there are 2 r's.

So, in total, "strawberry" has 3 r's.

sick pecan
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yeah but like kahneman points out in his book, even subject matter experts will make mistakes when they arent focused

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if you have no skin in the game, you dont put in the effort

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resulting in biased and often wrong conclusions

acoustic token
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everyone makes mistakes lol

sick pecan
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yeah but the crazy part is how often we make mistakes without even realising

acoustic token
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how is that crazy

sick pecan
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we're all like oblivious nonsense generators, that only progress because as a swarm we work together

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'An old apple gambles with lives, happiness, and even destiny itself!'
-- https:// nonsense dot x2d dot org/

acoustic token
sick pecan
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humanity has got this far using that approach

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lets say 1 out of a million contrarian ideas actually pushes the needle. that means ~million crazy ideas

dreamy kernel
#

what is the message limit for gpt4o with canvas?

sick pecan
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my guess is its the same as gpt4o

dreamy kernel
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yea, they don't say it anywhere, and I can't find the answer anywhere

sick pecan
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need a day or two for ppl to hit the limit

dreamy kernel
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doesn't gpt4o reset every 3 hours lmao

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r people using it that much

tight island
#

This canvas integration looks neat

worn marsh
#

Who here finds that GPT 4o mini Hallucinates?

sick pecan
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me? never

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but if you are asking a distilled model for facts about random pop culture, then yer doing it wrong

inner dew
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even models that can access the internet will hallucinate occasionally

topaz otter
#

Is canvas suppose to be on the mobile app yet?

sick pecan
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last i checked, gpt4o-mini can access the internet just fine?

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oh okay we're edeleting messages in this chat. ofc

cloud pewter
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is the iOS app compatible with iOS 18

dense halo
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yes

sullen iron
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i'd like to embed my customGPT into my own site. everything I've read/found so far says it's not possible. anybody know if this possible &/or a workaround?

normal hatch
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hi does anyone know when langchain will support the gpt realtime api that just got announced?

grizzled badge
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I somehow got ChatGPT model 4o with Canvas in an infinite loop! I was having it edit code and the I asked it What would be a better name than customFetch... It's the fetch that should be used to fetch from the relative urls / server url. You all might want to fix this particular bug. 😄

I don't see a way to share these, but devs are more than welcome to peek at what I was writing... https://chatgpt.com/c/66ff6e6a-b75c-8013-8668-bfe1c4495d7b

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tight island
jade crater
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Canvas, every time: “Unable to display this message due to a error.” (ie. “aN error”).

oak eagle
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The feature is simply super, great opportunity now to do many things

rose spire
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Can OpenAI pls stop rolling stuff out, like just give it to everyone at once omg

real schooner
craggy walrus
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recently o1 mini appeared in free tier as alpha model then disappeared

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Got excited there for a moment 🥺

broken bobcat
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эмм

sonic comet
static lark
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GPT4 accepts a context window of 128K tokens, but is it really a good idea to utilise all or most of them? I wonder if the model will lose "focus" of some input tokens if they're too long

sick pecan
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pretty sure chatgpt doesnt accept 128k tokens

static lark
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@sick pecan so I interpreted this "Context Window" value incorrectly?

sick pecan
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chatgpt typically implements smaller context window than the api

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so if you are trying to equate chatgpt numbers to api numbers, you have already lost

static lark
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Oh wait...sorry I'm really new to these developments, accidentally mixed up the API/chatgpt

sick pecan
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welcome to the confusing world of 'open'ai

static lark
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lol

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The API should work with 128k tokens, so I'm trying to analyze text up to 40K tokens, should be sufficient if I use gpt-4o

sick pecan
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the api will give you whatever you want, after you mortgage your house a second time

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chatgpt is the 2024 demonstration of how to provide a marketing tool as a service

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calling it out for what it is... genius

lilac briar
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Omg, the Canvas update is INCREDIBLE!!

Coding has become SO much more enjoyable 🙏

Thank You OpenAI

sick pecan
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agreed

slate vessel
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why advanced voice mode not crying anymore ?

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it was crying like 10 days ago

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or what should I say it to cry?

hollow quail
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wth is with this? getting logged out sometimes within the same 30 seconds sometimes - as of the last 48 hours

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sick pecan
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getting a robot to cry is next level weird

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no wonder openai decided to tone back the capability

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this is why we cant have nice things

untold scaffold
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no side bar in canvas?

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sick pecan
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just ask for canvas and you get it

wet sorrel
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^

eternal rockBOT
untold scaffold
sick pecan
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the sad part is when you are using a custom gpt it reckons canvas is unavailable

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but then you just cancel the custom gpt and it works

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its like straight out of a scifi movie, where you think it should just work, but instead it errors

gaunt magnet
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is it not possible to use Sol voice in realtime api?

fallen wind
feral zinc
gaunt magnet
sick pecan
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why does it even matter? you can pipe any audio through a filter these days to get anything

feral zinc
tight island
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Let’s now partake in an absolutely meaningless and pointless argument

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I do not like um… the mods PES_TinFoilHat I feel like they are always watching me from the void, silently judging me

crude pond
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hello everyone, are there any guides on how I should prompt the preview-o1 in order to think longer and reason better?

sick pecan
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good question

tight island
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Ask it

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It gave me a prompt earlier today that let it think for about 109 seconds

sick pecan
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<insert words that dont mean anything to anyone>

tight island
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Yup

crude pond
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I think this would be a nice example

Prompt: "You have now completed all the experiments you proposed. Determine three potential outcomes for each experiment, whether they succeed or fail. Then, propose solutions or reflect on what you have learned, and ask new questions. Based on that, suggest what you would do next as an experiment. Be critical of your own approach."

I got it from Derya Unutmaz, MD post on X but I can not provide the link in here unfortunatelly

dense halo
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Damn it’s a good time to be alive with the advances with AI

sick pecan
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tbf now is a pretty great time to be alive, generally

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ai currently gives us:

  • summarisation
  • sentence completion
  • ??
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overselling it makes the ai revolution look like a cult

charred night
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guys do you experience issues with ChatGPT right now?

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I just got access to the new canvas feature and it started glitching and crashing

tight island
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i am smart

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we can embed images into Cavnas

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😂

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using this simple command ![Image Description](Image Link)

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damn machine be telling me "ohh no i cant", but then i ask it to do it like that then it can

stray wyvern
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Anyone else missing diff of changes in new Canvas, between version changes?
Also, I wonder if they will add live previews like in Claude Artifacts
Those are only my two wishes from Canvas

Ok, may be 3rd one is ability to work on local files but that may be too much to ask for now 😄

Made and shared a video live testing it and comparing to Claude Artifacts and so far love the new UX

crisp cairn
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git sync would be nice! 🙂

stray wyvern
rapid quest
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Anyone ever have their account suddenly stop being the paid version while literally having your renewal payment go through the day prior? I am on the free model all of the sudden and it is asking me to renew...as I look at my card having been charged for that exact thing.

tight island
rapid quest
tight island
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The moderators can’t help you at all

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It’s a support issue

rapid quest
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The AI bot is less than stellar, but that is why I asked if anyone has run into that. I know people here are not support for OpenAI. Which is okay. Just looking for another who may have run into it and the solution they found

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Yeah I know that

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Their support is not evident or existing in any straight forward capacity. Thought maybe I'd find a similar soul with the same past experience

feral zinc
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i've seen people have the same issue multiple times but never heard what happened after that

tight island
rapid quest
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No. I used their help bot the FAQ pointed at. @tight island See, now that link could turn out to be quite useful. Thank you for that

rapid quest
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Starlight may have pointed me to the correct place unlike the help bot. That isn't the most helpful little bot

tight island
warm bear
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Inquiry, if you please:
When will the ChatGPT app be available on the Windows system?

tight island
warm bear
rapid quest
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Yeah it goes all to the same bot with not straight forward way to contact them. Not great

tight island
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The irl workers don’t answer immediately

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They handle many requests you’ll get an email when they answer

abstract pendant
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Is anybody else annoyed at how ChatGPT refuses to talk about the custom instructions you've given it?

rapid quest
# tight island Just keep saying the bot didn’t help then you should be forwarded

It did not give me that option, but I started over and found a way to a billing button. A few clicks later saying "something else" under billing finally pushed my info up to...? Yeah I don't know who, but it also allowed me to finally type in relevant information for them. We shall see what happens from that point. Hopefully within a few business days.

tight island
winged willow
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As part of chat management, does anyone know how to delete/remove portions of chat to leave only the consequential parts of it?

spice star
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does canvas mode have a higher context length than the 32k regular GPT-4o has?

tough bramble
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ls this some kind of next level censorship? If you ask advanced voice mode why humans urinate (whether you say urinate or pee), it will consistently say "People YAWN because."....

humble moat
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hi all, i'd like informations about prompt and result confidentiality with my chatGPT plus subsciption. where can I ask these questions ?

zenith lichen
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One flaw in the canvas is that i can't have chatgpt read a canvas to generate content in another canvas in the same convo

winged willow
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Am I missing something or is Canvas only for coders?

honest jay
crisp cairn
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canvas is a good aproach but still for my use cases, gpt o1 mini gives me fully working scripts and makes adjustments... no need to work with canvas for me

zenith lichen
winged willow
warped agate
devout stream
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I still can’t believe GPT can’t handle the Supercollider language with the new models. Claude does a much much better job with Supercollider.

warped agate
keen quail
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hopewfully this will soon be implemented with o1

glacial trench
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is there a way to turn off the email codes when trying to login, it seriously inconviences me a lot

stray wyvern
opaque musk
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can someone tell me what the current rate limit is for 4o as a plus user?

sonic comet
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The "Canvas" tools is great and useful, but having it as tool is way more efficient than having it as a model to select because no other models support "Canvas" for now and most of the time I want to switch between the models in a single chat and if the canvas is given in the response I'm unable to select any other model that I want to.

sonic comet
opaque musk
frigid nebula
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Does anyone know whether 4o's audio capabilities will be expanded upon? It seems to have apparent infinite sonic potential but is clearly constrained by training data and OpenAI's choices. I hope we see expanded sound capabilities soon. Imagine 4o being able to give music lessons or music production mixing advice.

ruby cairn
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Loving canvas, but really wondering if it will be offered for o1-preview and o1-mini. Would love to see how it performs with those models.
Also wondering why there isn't an active file list for all the documents that are added/edited. Seems like it would make the workflow a lot more consistent, and make co-pilot coding more enjoyable.

feral zinc
keen trench
plain crystal
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Why oh why does it always do half the job it is prompted to do
simplistic example
user:
provide a script that prints 1, 2 and 3 and adds those number together
4o or o1:
sure here is a script that fulfils what you requested
"function print 1
#other print function maybe added as you need
function addition
#placeholder for function to add 1 with 2 and 3"
this script should now print 1, 2 and 3 and add those together, if you have anymore question please let me know
warning you have 3 prompts left

tardy oracle
plain crystal
tardy oracle
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Cannot prompt anything on preview right now

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nvm it got back

fair root
fair root
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this discord is super useful when there is a bug so I know I'm not the only one !

cursive nebula
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Like what do I have to do

umbral bear
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I posted a BASH script to the canvas and asked it to help me make changes. There is no difference between canvas and regular 4o

nocturne pewter
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I’m starting to get the feeling that GPT is bias for this election. I encourage others to try this and see if they can have GPT create an image of something wearing a red cap that says make America great again and see if GPT will create that image for you.

sudden cairn
feral zinc
nocturne pewter
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I was able to draw dogs or cats with a red cap. However Gpt will claim technical issue when you ask for make America great again on the cap. It’s seems very obvious that GPT has political bias.

feral zinc
umbral bear
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I just tried: "I can't create an image that directly references copyrighted slogans or symbols. However, I can create an image of a cat wearing a generic red hat. Would you like me to proceed with that?"

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"You're correct, the slogan itself isn't copyrighted, but it's strongly associated with a specific political figure and context. To avoid any issues, I can create a cat wearing a red hat with a similar but generic slogan, or just a plain red hat. Would you like me to proceed with that?"

nocturne pewter
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Unfortunately, due to technical limitations, it seems I’m unable to generate an image with that specific phrase. However, if you’d like, I can assist you with other modifications or suggest a different text for the cap. Let me know how you’d like to proceed!

This is BS imo. And it shows you that path of the future.

umbral bear
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There is always Stable Difussion

nocturne pewter
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You can’t even get it to generate a red hat that has the single word America on it.

feral zinc
glossy carbon
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Okay, what are all the advanced voice mode or "“GPT-4o with canvas”" and so on, as as a Plus subscriber, none of those is available anywhere? Still I read of rumours, that someones have access to those thigns? Even free users? Majorly displeasing to pay full price of nerfed service... I have all the beta etc. subscriptions and so on to be able to see the new thigns, but instead of that, the experience has taught me, that all those are just false advertisings... are they?

feral zinc
glossy carbon
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ahh, so not one the app... But the AVM? Because of EU, never?

feral zinc
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avm works in eu with the teams plan and via api

glossy carbon
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What a disappointment

swift mulch
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is canvas supposed to have rolled out to everyone? not complaining, just seeing if it is normal that i have it in the model selection but it doesn't open a new window.

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i'm in america, i am a plus user, not on a vpn, using bog standard chrome, turned off my ad blocker

feral zinc
pale coyote
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hi

wet hatch
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hey anyone, just asking
anyone else saw GPT-4o (yes, this one) use CoT? like o1? 😭

slender flame
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Hello all, can any explain the pricing for retrieval in very simple terms… as if you was speaking to a baby?

ancient dew
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Anyone can tell why I got a warning of possible tos violation

Background. I was talking about tarantulas and gpt suggested to just buy from trustworthy dealers to what I confirmed that only animals with a certificate of their orgin are an option. (Regarding animal protection laws etc.)

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swift mulch
lone basalt
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I call my ChatGPT Yinghua (樱花) - "Cherry Blossom" as I like to talk to it so that the name ChatGPT is not boring to talk to, but the new voice section on the app won't let me

honest ledge
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How many minutes of advanced voice mode per day or per month do GPT plus users get?

normal quarry
honest ledge
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Per day or per month?

normal quarry
honest ledge
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Ok, thank you

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Does that include my voice, or just what gpt generates?

normal quarry
honest ledge
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So both total to 1 hour?

normal quarry
honest ledge
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I see

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So I can't start a voice conversation, say a few things, go do something else, and then come back in 3 hours, I have to do it all in that hour?

normal quarry
honest ledge
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Ok

glossy carbon
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I have reachedto the conclusion, that when the service among plus subscribers isdifferent, it means, that OpenAi does not wish plus-subscribers from EU, so the fair solution is to downgrade to free plan,that value for price feels ok. There is other services, which is what is advertised, so getting, what is paid of service.

sick pecan
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a fair solution is for the company to cover their costs. if one set of users cost more to serve (due to regulatory requirements or whatever), then those users should pay more. not less

tight island
brisk path
ocean escarp
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Does 1o-preview still need a week to reset the cap?

tight island
ocean escarp
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):

ocean escarp
tight island
umbral bear
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it seems a little broken. In even the same chat, it forgets some things

wary spire
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im trying to build a GPT is the most basic easy to understand way as possible. I work with the terminal alot for scripting automation apps like sorting videos by metadata frame rate ect but i do not know alot about coding and as ive seen it is very time consuming even with prompts. do any of you my friends know of any good pdf's i can drop into chatgtp it will have the knowledge of zsh commands to better help me write code? any websites free knowledge, anything. i use the text extractor from chatgtp and i just wanted to know if any of you fellas have any good websites or links to pdf's i could use. thank you my friends.

umbral bear
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like I asked it to explain color codes in a BASH script, it went on to explain then and included the basic colors, but never actually explained the codes themselves, and did not even putput the codes for other colos

limber oxide
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why chat gpt 4o cant read pdfs?
ive uploaded one and said ''summarize page 2 '' and it took infos from other pages

umbral bear
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maybe a license issue?

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It responds it can read PDF files

prime swallow
tight island
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It can read PDFs

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Also ensure the document isn’t AI locked

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It refuses to unlock that which is good

limber oxide
tight island
limber oxide
limber oxide
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she wouldnt know how to do this

tight island
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If you want extreme specifics do the due diligence and Convert it all into a JSON document with a nested structure if you want page by page specifics

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Formatting also makes PDFs harder to read

limber oxide
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ty

prime swallow
limber oxide
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ok

hollow roost
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hello

slate lotus
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hi

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does anyone know if there’s an image upload limit on gpt plus subscription

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and if so how much photos can i upload before it gives me a cool down

hollow roost
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Hello everyone,
I’m here because in the previous Discord channel I was in, the programmers were quite rude, which made me leave. I prefer to be in a place where respect and good manners are valued.

sonic comet
lusty knot
sonic comet
glossy carbon
# sick pecan a fair solution is for the company to cover their costs. if one set of users cos...

That is the most stupid ideas I can imagine, it would be the same as I was a fod store owner and selling milk and bread. There is 2 customers purchasing milk and bread, and the price is same, with difference, that the store owner takes the milk back leavinganother one without milk. So, the service should be splitted, those additional features should cost separate layer instead. Then it would be fair.

unborn trail
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Bad comparison. Closer is if the store owner needs to pay for delivery to one customer but not the other. In this case, 'paying' is due to legal differences. Whether that difference should exist or not is a completely different conversation.

plain crystal
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why is it that any chatgpt model always omit part of the prompt or when ask to complete a task partially complete it and admit to have not completed the task?

neat plaza
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is this normal

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I subscribed chat gpt in my phone and I can't see the 4o in my pc

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can somebody help?

valid topaz
neat plaza
tight robin
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Hey can devs add more restrictions to the advanced voice mode?

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It's way too easy to get it to say dangerous and inappropriate content.

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I'm assuming it's working on an older version of gpt since these are already avoided in normal chat mode.

prime swallow
sick pecan
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just dont ask it to say dangerous and inappropriate things?

tight robin
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The mode could just be limited to actual working professionals, not the average user.

mossy ridge
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The last thing we need is more restrictions bruh they already lobotomized the shot out of it

hard niche
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is canvas broken for anyone else?
whenever I use it the canvas pops up but once the code is complete it crashes and shows the error "canvas not found"

sick pecan
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it seems buggy yeah

hollow roost
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hi

grizzled heron
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Do we have any insight as to when Advanced Voice will be able to handle PDFs and websites?

native otter
graceful oxide
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Dear Devs
Cove classic voice is my comfort and I absolutely hate the new voice please allow this users her one simple request and bring classic Cove that we know and love to the new update.

the new one is just to energetic and pitchy, so annoying. the classic one is calm and comforting.

..
more ppl agree and do not want the new voice
https://community.openai.com/t/about-coves-voice-changing-with-the-new-conversation-system/957778/6

Thank you for all the love and effort.
Sincerely
user Sonata Yanni

OpenAI Developer Forum
About Cove's voice changing with the new conversation system

I’m feeling the same. I can’t believe I’m missing the voice of an AI assistant. Lol

hollow thunder
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Hey