chatgpt-discussions

[sick pecan]

just that sentence alone is unnecessarily complex

"a boat that can carry either one person or one animal at a time" <== this is a flawed statement that raises more questions than answers

[tough bramble]

Looks like I've lost the memory feature after getting GPT-4o 🤷‍♂️

[vestal birch]

Interesting. Looping and re-doing work is definitely there, I guess for coding claude-3 is still the best

[night silo]

Yeah I am aware of that, I changed it and still got 3 trips

if you could provide a prompt that is not ambiguous, it would be greatly appreciated

[sick pecan]

the classic problem is phrased like this, ```A rabbit, a cabbage, a fox, and a farmer are at a river. The farmer has one boat fitting one item and himself. If he takes the fox, the rabbit will eat the cabbage. If he takes the cabbage the fox will eat the rabbit; however, the fox will not eat the cabbage. How does he transport them all safely?

the context and assumptions are explained clearly.

[zinc valley]

Can someone explain to me what gpt 4 o is? And do we get more gpt 4 credits bc of it?

[night silo]

if you put this in chatgpt, it will answer correctly, why? because it is trained on this question lol

[tough bramble]

Yeah, I have.... I'd much rather have memory than 4o with none of the features they showed.....

Also F this server's A Mod

[drowsy wagon]

is the mac app arm-only? im on a 2020 intel macbook air and its saying its not supported

[night silo]

the point is to test the model's reasoning, not its knowledge

[tough bramble]

Does it say it's not supported or does it say that you don't have access yet?

[rapid anchor]

It was said gpt-4o would be free but it isn't available at the chatgpt website? I can only use it with the api, which is a bit dissapointing

[glass willow]

I would like to inform everyone to be extremely careful what you write on openai, if you mention some key words ideas or have inventive plans you need to be very careful not to ask it on gpt, everything released for GPT-4o was in detail listed every feature that was part of a inventive list of ideas i came up with months ago.

They released every thing in the list of my ideas exactly to the T, i have evidence of it.

So please be very careful, they are clearly storing the information you are writing in the chats as it's completely impossible for it to have leaked anywhere else as it was on chatgpt and was a literal idea plan for my business.

[tough bramble]

It's only available to Plus users for now.

[sick pecan]

or turns out humans rarely have unique ideas

[tough bramble]

Lol, get over yourself. This was the only natural progression of GPT....

[zinc valley]

WAIT PRO USERS GET 5x MORE THE CREDITS?

[rapid anchor]

I see. I do prefer the API because I only pay for what I use, but I can't chat with audio sadly. I found it really awesome when I saw the voice demos with the new gpt-4o

[glass willow]

I would not have worried about that, if it was seperate or even slightly different, but they did exactly what my design ideas were and all of them in this one update.

[tough bramble]

Might as well have said "I suggested they improve GPT and they did, they stole my idea."...

[drowsy wagon]

"You can’t open the application “ChatGPT.app” because this application is not supported on this Mac."

[glass willow]

All of my ideas were also listed in a single chat.

[zinc valley]

Should I use gpt 4 or 4 o

[tough bramble]

None of the shown features are public. It's only improved text for now.

[elfin birch]

Try them both out and see what works best for you!

[zinc valley]

What are the differences?

[elfin birch]

Right now it's just text; the other modalities like audio and visual will be coming in the next few weeks

Woops, forgot to reply

[rapid anchor]

hope it gets public soon

[rapid anchor]

I mean, gpt-4o does cost 2x less...

[tough bramble]

Literally everyone have thought about all the things they showed in the live demo.....

[zinc valley]

No vision yet? And it will be able to HEAR AUDIO?

[glass willow]

They could potentially have trained a seperate AI on keywords of chats for ideas of people that listed them and grabbed a list that suited them and it happen to be mine, however i'm not fussy about it. My point is that you need to be careful as there is scetchy business behind it, if it just released one of them and anotherdate another one of them i wouldn't have suspected it, or even slight differences.

[zinc valley]

I have plus membership

[hoary laurel]

Is the desktop version of the application already launched?

[rapid anchor]

yea, in that case I dunno 😆

[zinc valley]

I noticed the cutoff for gpt. 4 is layer

[glass willow]

No, you can go on their youtube they listed multiple things for the AI

[tough bramble]

It wasn't even a question of if, only when. I thought everyone was waiting for exactly what they showed..

[glass willow]

Every one of those videos was part of my list to the T

[elfin birch]

Yup! Check out the update! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQacCB9tDaw
GPT-4o can interpret images atm. What I meant by visual is live-video feed as shown in the announcement above

[wet shell]

I'll go one further, not only did they copy my ideas, they sent them back in time and gave them to researchers who published papers about them years before I came up with the ideas -- why isn't anyone talking about OpenAI's time travel capabilities!? In seriousness though, if you think you have a case consult an attorney, you probably won't get a lot of sympathy online

[glass willow]

even the learning trough the app and tutoring. share screen etc

[rapid anchor]

gpt-4o is october 2023 apparently, what is it for gpt-4?

[twin summit]

quick question is it open access for desktop app for gpt 4 users yet?

[zinc valley]

Gpt 4o said may 2023 for me, gpt 4 is December 2023

[elfin birch]

It is being rolled out atm

[tired stag]

How do we get the desktop app? I'm a paid user.

[drowsy wagon]

is it arm-only? "You can’t open the application “ChatGPT.app” because this application is not supported on this Mac."

[twin summit]

i think its prolly by eom

[tough bramble]

Who the F haven't thought about that? If you make what they showed it's impossible to not come up with those use cases...

[twin summit]

considering 4o just dropped

[elfin birch]

I believe Apple Silicon was mentioned, yes

[tired stag]

How is 4o better?

[chilly tree]

Oooph, 4o is hallucinating far worse than 4 has been for me....

[glass willow]

Again one idea no big deal, every one of my list which is 20 things in detail exactly as i envisoined them, exactly how it should work.. in one update? coincidence 🙂

[chilly tree]

This....

[glass willow]

It's like winning the lotto coinsidence

[rapid anchor]

"GPT-4o has a 128K context window and has a knowledge cut-off date of October 2023."

[tough bramble]

If everyone was a winner, yes...

[zinc valley]

Does it have the context window on the web interface?

[zinc valley]

Odd, I just asked it and it said may

[tough bramble]

That's specifically under API details. We don't know what it's limited to in ChatGPT.

[rapid anchor]

I believe it is the same context window anywhere, but there is the rate limit thing

might be wrong tho

[chilly tree]

lol, My GPT 4o when asked about its knowledge cut-off date says "September 2021."

[glass willow]

Again, one or two ideas even three or four, all of them.

[rapid anchor]

would they train another gpt-4o model just for chatgpt?

[glass willow]

In ONE go

[chilly tree]

Congratulations then.

[zinc valley]

Didn’t they boost the limits as well for gpt 4 for paid users?

[tough bramble]

No? That has nothing to do with how they configure it for ChatGPT specifically.

[glass willow]

I wrote on chatgpt about this for about 4 - 8 months, you can clearly see chatgpt slapped 4o together quickly

[rapid anchor]

I meant that if the knowledge cutoff is different then the training is different and thus it must be effectively another gpt-4o model

[glass willow]

no it does not have those features

[tall radish]

What's the point of keeping chatgpt plus if the free people get the same features? I know about the higher limits but other than that?

[glass willow]

Not released i mean, it's just videos at this stage, but still taken

[tough bramble]

They said they've been working on it for 2 years. ChatGPT wasn't even out then..

[glass willow]

No all my ideas is not available right now

It's just part of their videos (Promises to apple)

[rapid anchor]

you would be surprised how many people have the same ideas as we do. Having unique ideas in a 8 billion people world is kinda... hard

[tough bramble]

A lot higher limit, if you judge by the current. Plus gets 80 per 3 hours, and will get 5x that of the free version. So with that limit, free users get 5 messages per hour..

[broken sierra]

They are going to announce new features that only plus users get access to.

[glass willow]

Oh yes i'm aware of that, again it would make sense for even lets say something crazy 10 ideas but every one of them in my list, all not currently available on 4o but yet promised in their "new" slapped together videos

Sure why not, you can train an ai to do that easily for keywords.

Yeah i mean i did put it out quite blunt in detail and steps each one of them

Nah i didnt even write it into google, don't trust it

[tired stag]

HOW DO WE GET THE DESKTOP APP?

[elfin birch]

Get lucky

[rapid anchor]

desktop app?

[elfin birch]

https://openai.com/index/gpt-4o-and-more-tools-to-chatgpt-free/

[glass willow]

Well the tutor thing i don't see that happening for the next 4 years, since they charge per frame and it's like $0.005 per frame so it's more expensive than an actual tutor.

Would need to be 100000x cheaper

[rapid anchor]

nice

[glass willow]

Again those videos they posted are just a bunch of promises to apple

[rapid anchor]

to apple?

[elfin birch]

Do you have a source for this cost?

[glass willow]

it's on their pricing page under vision

can set resolution to 1080p will be that much.

[elfin birch]

Hmmm, this is the same as GPT-4V

In Turbo

[wet shell]

Vision seems better, at least for manga/anime images, it misunderstands fewer things in the image compared to 4v and seems to pick up more details -- much more useful for image tagging IMO

[eager tartan]

Are you guys having problem with activating voice mode on IOS? It says no connection even if i can interact with text?

[glass willow]

it is better than the other gpts with detail

[drowsy wagon]

1: please don’t yell.
2: refresh ChatGPT and it may prompt you to download the app if you’re eligible

[elfin birch]

^

[glass willow]

I've done a benchmark on it, it's impressive results

[elfin birch]

I wonder how GPT-4o interprets video differently from images

[glass willow]

But the fact that they adding it on apple devices puts a lot of people off from using their api as users will be able to access all this functionality directly.

[elfin birch]

Or if it even does

The technicalities 😵‍💫

[drowsy wagon]

The Mac app seems to be ARM-only as well, no Intel support for now

[glass willow]

video and images are the same thing, there is just many frames in a second for video so many pictures.

[drowsy wagon]

Hopefully they add Intel support

[glass willow]

They will likely not release it for windows as they are doing this because they are busy with a deal with apple i think it was approved yesterday.

[median meteor]

I think it’s about exclusivity, they’ll add intel support later

[drowsy wagon]

I’m talking about Intel Macs. Windows is slated for later this year

[tough bramble]

Video is converted to images at 2-4 FPS.

[glass willow]

@drowsy wagon yes i'm talking about windows, i know some macs have intel cores.

[midnight cedar]

Where to download desktop app for mac?

[elfin birch]

This implementation makes sense. Where did you find this information?

[glass willow]

2-4 seems low, wouldn't be accurate for many things but makes sense.

[tough bramble]

https://community.openai.com/t/announcing-gpt-4o-in-the-api/744700

GPT-4o in the API supports understanding video (without audio) via vision capabilities. Specifically, videos need to be converted to frames (2-4 frames per second, either sampled uniformly or via a keyframe selection algorithm) to input into the model.

[elfin birch]

Thank you

[glass willow]

still that's too expensive anyway

[grand dome]

Is there absolutely no way to use the voice feature on windows?
i tried emulating the android app on bluestacks but it wont work

[glass willow]

$0.01 - $0.02 per second $0.6 per minute that's $18 per 30 minute session of tutoring.

[tough bramble]

Doesn't cost anywhere near that, unless you're using high res images; which isn't needed..

[tight ermine]

How do we really get the macos app?

[glass willow]

1080p isn't that high res, average standard.

[hollow mica]

quick question guys...does the chatting to the GPT 4o work on desktop browser or do you need mobile?

trying to show off to my wife how far its come

[sick pecan]

my thoughts are you use yolo or similar to trigger gpt-4o image analysis. similar to wakewords for audio transcription

[upbeat lichen]

yo

any mathematicians in here

[tough bramble]

None of the features shown in the live demo are available publicly, if that's what you want to show.

[glass willow]

most of it wont be for a long time still.

sora was demo'd just like that, hasn't been out for a very long time.

[hollow mica]

@tough bramble understood...just researched it but thanks 🙂

@glass willow thanks 🙂

[limber veldt]

So what is out with gpt-4o right now?

[tribal wing]

text

give it a few weeks as they roll stuff out

[tough bramble]

Only the text capabilities.

So basically just a new GPT-4 version working exactly as it has up until now.

Not very exciting.

Especially because unlocking GPT-4o removed memory for me...

[deep pike]

sorry if the question was asked before but will the screen sharing feature be coming to android and windows on initial release or does it require the app thats only available on MAC?

[sick pecan]

is Mac only for now

[nocturne ember]

So.... where is my mac desktop download at!"??!?!

[elfin birch]

Rolling out

[sick pecan]

I might switch back to MacBook for daily driver

[nocturne ember]

We getting a email or will it be when we log into the website?

[elfin birch]

It'll tell you via notification on the ChatGPT website

[fathom sentinel]

only for plus users

[nocturne ember]

Awesome

[deep pike]

well that's sucks. i thought Microsoft would benefit more from these new featuers after all these investments lol

[tight ermine]

So do we have to use safari for chatgpt app notification? or any browsers as long as on MacOS?

[nocturne ember]

They are... Azure is where the money is with MSFT right now

[sick pecan]

Microsoft already dropped copilot into windows ages ago

[elfin birch]

That too

[deep pike]

yeah but why the app isn't available on windows on launch. i hope it doesn't take too long if its ever coming

[elfin birch]

Windows app is coming later this year

[deep pike]

I'm saying this because there's some news or rumors about deals between apple and OpenAI so im not sure if its meant to be exclusive or just for technical reasons

[limber veldt]

Damn that sucks, any guesses on when it’ll be out, I was hoping to test it out soon

[sick pecan]

Microsoft selling copilot subs in direct competition with openai. with partners like these...

[tough bramble]

Some stuff like limited voice over the coming weeks. Expect months for all they showed.

[wet shell]

time travel FTW

[sick pecan]

1 less in this dystopian universe

[deep pike]

so am i supposed to notice any improvement in the image input feature now between GPT 4 AND GPT4O? or is it still unavailable

[unreal ice]

the 4o engine doesn't recognize itself???

[tough bramble]

Did they remove the live presentation?....

[unreal ice]

I ask about it and it says something about 4.0 turbo

[tough bramble]

Nevermind, it's just hidden or something..

[tough bramble]

No.

[deep pike]

still in YouTube

[tough bramble]

Yes, reasoning about images should be improved.

[unreal ice]

I see

[tough bramble]

Yeah, it just doesn't show on their channel. Had to use Google to find it.

[deep pike]

idk and also i noticed that it says that the training data is up to sep 2021 but its able to answer qustions about events beyond that. hallucinating

[deep pike]

it does, maybe youre in the videos section u need to go to the lives

[tough bramble]

The knowledge cutoff for 4o is October 2023.

[deep pike]

December as far as i know

[tough bramble]

October

December is 4

[deep pike]

oh okay

[unreal ice]

4o is so much faster than 4

[dense halo]

What is the limit for gpt4o for free users?

[empty wasp]

So chatgpt4o is free?

[tough bramble]

Pretty A-h0le move to say they were releasing GPT-4o today, then shows how awesome it is, and then what they're actually releasing, is just a slightly different text model than what we have now.......

[empty wasp]

It’s faster

[hoary laurel]

Faster

[hybrid knoll]

guys I am new for GPT I am looking for whole good package with all features including apn and image generater. I can compromise the speed and my usages will be also limited for one user and small work, work is related to integrate gpt with cad softwares

can you guys help me choose a right plan

[unreal ice]

It's having a hard time creating a word document though...

[tough bramble]

They state early in the stream that they're releasing the model today, not parts of it.

It's like saying on stream you're releasing a hyped game today, only to release the main menu..

No, they only released the text capabilities. The model does both text, images and voice, both input and output, natively.

I don't care about free users

[sick pecan]

the new model alone just for text is a welcome improvement

beats working out of lmsys ui for sure

[spring shuttle]

The features they stated early in the stream will be available in a few weeks?

[severe summit]

Hello all, but gpt4o is the better GPT4 or? Yesterday it was writing, that is in all Points better, bow someone write, its the new free version

[tough bramble]

No. Their blog says some limited voice features will be made available in the coming weeks. Full capability is only for trusted partners.

[icy seal]

yall gpt4o is crazy

[spring shuttle]

So I guess it's no longer worth paying for the paid version?

[buoyant rampart]

I'm keeping my subscription for the extra rate limits

[tough bramble]

You get 5 times the limit, so yes. If the current 4o limit is anything to go by, the free version will be limited to 5 messages per hour.

[ember otter]

Did the use limit get lowered for GPT 4?

[buoyant rampart]

It got raised for Plus users

[tough bramble]

But hopefully the current limit is temporary and they'll increase it tenfold, cause 80 messages in 3 hours with live conversation is gonna be used in seconds..

[icy seal]

Open air is so so so cool to let everyone use it for free

[spring shuttle]

I hope so

[unreal ice]

did they mention when they plan to roll out per-GPT memories?

ie the cross-session memory for custom GPTs

[deep pike]

Open air

[unreal ice]

Also, do free users now have access to custom GPTs?

[tough bramble]

Who knows, memory is all over the place right now. I've had it for weeks, then today when I got access to 4o, I lost access to memory.... and I'd much rather have memory than the current limited version of 4o.....

[icy seal]

Idts

[unreal ice]

pardon?

[tough bramble]

That's what they said on stream.

[buoyant rampart]

It's being rolled out

[icy seal]

I don’t think so

[unreal ice]

ah

[tough bramble]

They said free would access custom GPTs today..

[unreal ice]

Yeah, they have access to 4 now, so I thought they might

ty

[icy seal]

For real????

[tough bramble]

That's what they said in the stream.. I'm rewatching it atm.

[buoyant rampart]

Huh, well my friend tried and apparently it still said something about needing a sub

[icy seal]

I haven’t finished the 4o introduction video yet

[deep pike]

GPTs are going to be free for all users. maybe not yet

[tough bramble]

Well, they also said in the beginning of the stream that they were releasing 4o today, and then later they said it would come over the coming weeks..

[buoyant rampart]

Yeah, someone else on this server in another channel said it's being rolled out so eventually, my friend will have access to them

[icy seal]

It reminds me of the Gemini

[deep pike]

im kinda mad that they made gpt 4o available to all users. that makes the 20$ a month less worth it tbh

[tough bramble]

Also excited about them opening up for NSFW stuff. Man sh*ts annoying, constantly having to watch what you say..

[deep pike]

at least there should be more reasons to subscripe other than the higer limits

[icy seal]

Lmao

[sick pecan]

i cannot imagine having anything less than Team sub

[tough bramble]

It's bad enough that you can't even say W T F on this discord without being muted...

[deep pike]

DALLE with nsfw is gonna be cool. prnhub employyes gonna lose their jobs

[buoyant rampart]

I'm good with Plus for now cause it's what I can afford for now

[icy seal]

Still, I hope DALLE is as good as mid journey

[deep pike]

its not

[tough bramble]

AFAIK, swearing is fine with the current policies, as long as the user has asked for it.

[deep pike]

i feel like DALLE 3 became more cartonish than dalle 2. it won't give you realistic looking pics of people no matter what

[spring shuttle]

It's unfair, even more if they do not intend to implement all the functions that they said in the stream..

[sick pecan]

the producitivty gains from Team sub pays for itself

[icy seal]

That’s the thing

[tough bramble]

Yes it will? 🤔

[buoyant rampart]

What sort of productivity gains do you get from it?

[sick pecan]

mostly tech

bit of business

[buoyant rampart]

Hmm, well maybe I'll look into it when I know I can afford it

Ha!

[sick pecan]

i run the shadow corporation that built Cyberdyne as a distraction

[deep pike]

have u used DALLE 2 ? i mean 3 is better in many ways but realistic pics are way better in 2 imo. also one thing im missing is the ability to edit images using the model which was available in 2. now they made the 2 unavailable

[sick pecan]

dalle3 prompt cohension good, photo realism not so much

if you want photo realistic images there are many better options past dalle3

[tough bramble]

I think they look pretty realistic

[unreal ice]

dalle3 does hands better than any other model I've seen

[tough bramble]

And you can edit DALL-E 3 images in ChatGPT.

[deep pike]

u can edit images that the model genreated not any img

DALLE 2 allowed you to edit any img

[native mist]

how do we use the screenshare on mac os

[tough bramble]

I doubt you do.

[native mist]

what? Im asking how do we use it?

[tough bramble]

You don't...

[native mist]

so its not out or what bro just give a straight answer lol

[tough bramble]

😱 4o recognizes people in images. It can tell which movie or show the image is from by recognizing the characters

[digital zealot]

anyone know how to get the desktop app?

[tough bramble]

If you have access, you'll get a notification in the web app.

[stoic coral]

is GPT-4o's text improved

[digital zealot]

Thanks

[stoic coral]

also has the app been updated with the new model and stuff

[solid bronze]

I’m waiting

[broken sierra]

We need a pinned message saying Plus users will have an increased limit as well as new features soon to be announced.

[solid bronze]

Got 4o on my mobile but not the voice or vision like on the demo

[buoyant rampart]

That's coming later

[sick pecan]

they had to beat google to releasing a real immersive demo, not that fake stuff

[sour wasp]

I don't know about you guys but 4o right now feels exactly like 4. Maybe it's still rolling out, but I can't tell the difference.

The image comprehension is still more or less similar. It doesn't feel any smarter than regular 4.

Literally random stuff from my phone I got off of reddit.

I mean it can recognize the stuff like superheroes and pop culture stuff, but regular 4 can already do that.

Nope.

[tough bramble]

It's definitely better. Before, characters were pretty abstract, and now it can recognize TV shows from the characters in the scene.

[sour wasp]

Well, it can't speak obscure regional languages, but of course it's to be expected.

If you refer to "stumped" in a broad sense.

I once manage to trick it into thinking a blank black photo where I covered the camera with my finger as an actual work of art hanging in a museum.

[light canyon]

Can ChatGPT not input images like GPT-4o does?

[sour wasp]

You sure?

[sick pecan]

we are waiting for UI updates to use full gpt-4o potential

[sour wasp]

Ask it if it can identify my pfp

I showed it a Hotwheels toy of a Ferrari 250 California and it was quite accurate.

[sick pecan]

i now paste screenshot of chatgpt into chatgpt to ask what to ask next

i feel like this is the start of something beautiful

[sour wasp]

Well, there's a bit of difference.
4o could identify it as a Hot Wheels toy, though it said "possibly."
While 4 can't figure out it was Hot Wheels at all.

[severe summit]

Oh, my smartphone stip compatibility with Openai 😦 i hate it, that we must buy all time newer Smartphones

[errant oak]

why gpt4-o responses are too long lol

yea I know, I have custom instructions, but talking about the default mode comparing with gpt4

[sour wasp]

Yep, way off

[errant oak]

another thing the read aloud is overacting tone 😄 especially Sky but it's good

[eternal geyser]

So how do I do the live camera feed thing with GPT4o?

[sour wasp]

Well, it could identify it properly once I fed it a full-size pic... sort of. It's a Kamen Rider from the Japanese tokusatsu show... but it can't figure out which one and kept giving the names of other ones that are blue instead of the one in my PFP.

Well, close enough to what I'd expect, but it's still more or less where GPT-4 was.

[sick pecan]

i need keyboard binding that takes screenshot and postes into new chatgpt tab

[rugged igloo]

i wonder if strategy games like chess or scrabble or yugioh with the desktop app will be tied together having real time assistance on plays or words

🙂 im super hyped now

[sour wasp]

I really want to try out the live feed thing. I wanna see if it can be a couch partner.

Just watch films and stuff together with it and talk about things as they happen.

[eternal geyser]

Oh so even though we have the gpt4o, it’s actual full features are being ‘rolled out?’

[rugged igloo]

yea we get everythin g in the follo0wing weeks

[eternal geyser]

Right, I just assumed it all ‘came with it’

Any thoughts on paying vs not paying now? Now everyone can just freely use the intelligent model - how do I get an advantage by paying…

[median prawn]

So we can’t yet access the new version now? I mean the camera feature and being able to interrupt the AI and so on?

[median prawn]

I think it’s super not fair. I’ve been a paying customer for a good amount of time. The only thing we get is “5 times higher messages capacity”. Free users might as well just make 5 accounts at this point lol

True… but that’s a radical change. Going from not giving them normal GPT-4 to giving them a fast, better version of it.

[eternal geyser]

I tested the interruption it works now

Yeh this, that’s right

[tough bramble]

5x is a lot. With the current limitation, free users get 5 messages per hour. That's useless.

[median prawn]

How did you do it? If I try the speech feature (pressing the headphone button) it’s just the same as normal

[eternal geyser]

Yeh exactly, maybe it’s an elitist thing but, I want intelligence for my $…

[tawny crater]

For anyone who uses team workspace. You get 104 messages of GPT4o before you hit the cap. Once you hit the cap, it also counts for normal Gpt4

[acoustic robin]

Anyone know if the new Omni with livestream capability available on iOS app?

[rugged igloo]

danm 104? thjats alor

[eternal geyser]

I just told it to say something long then spoke again to stop…

[median prawn]

Yeah, but it’s free after all. Even if it’s one message per day to GPT-4o it’s free.

[acoustic robin]

@eternal geyser r u on ur iOS device ?

[eternal geyser]

Yeh that’s right - maybe it’s rolling out too…

[sacred moth]

any one got access to voice and video??

[eternal geyser]

Yeh

[tough bramble]

Bullsh*t

[acoustic robin]

Is this with the camera feature too?im find how to turn it on

[eternal geyser]

No no, I can just interrupt it now

[median prawn]

Does it respond fast too? Like the demos?

[eternal geyser]

Well, I can do it over and over, so, must be working.

[eternal geyser]

Haven’t tried, let me give it a go..

[acoustic robin]

Ah so there isn’t anything like the demos actually available since the iOS is app hasn’t been updated. Got it

[eternal geyser]

I’m in Asia, past midday now

[median prawn]

But I’ve heard the Mac version is already out? Is that true? I couldn’t find it.

[rugged igloo]

maybe just random times

[median prawn]

He should send us some proof haha

Maybe he should dm us one by one or post a link haha

[tough bramble]

This server's really bad in general

[median prawn]

gets banned

[acoustic robin]

i have new mac w the latest software i dont see any app (PST)

[tough bramble]

@eternal geyser Which version of ChatGPT are you running?

[eternal geyser]

When I look back at the chat using voice, it has … wherever I interrupt it

[tough bramble]

Vid or it didn't happen

It happened or it didn't happen

[median prawn]

@eternal geyser at this point just video call us and show it hahaha

Haha -.-

[vernal isle]

eyy they rolled out 4o in chat now

[median prawn]

Actually, come to us and show it in person or it didn’t happen

[vernal isle]

haha some of us sleep 😄

[median prawn]

Hahaha

Oh wow this is a really restrictive place. I can’t even send emojis from other servers! You guys weren’t kidding.

[vernal isle]

wait, 12 hours ago the presentation didnt even start you tricked me

[buoyant rampart]

One of these days, we'll be able to get AI to sleep for us instead

[vernal isle]

aight where's the desktop app now 🤣

[median prawn]

This releasing thing is so confusing… they said we got it but we didn’t already?

Watch out. You might get banned for that even if you’re kidding :))

[rugged igloo]

we just got gpt 4 O but not everything else yet

[eternal rock]

This is a Safe for Work Discord Server

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• Refrain from sharing inappropriate content on the server. This includes but is not limited to messages, media, or other topics of graphically violent, sexual nature, and drug-related content.
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Posting NSFW content will result in a permanent ban.

[median prawn]

Naaah let me ping a mod really quick- haha

[median prawn]

Damn someone did their job haha

One more mistake and you’ll end up in prison ahahahha

[buoyant rampart]

Congrats! You survived our AI overlords!

[median prawn]

Okay I gotta chill

[rugged igloo]

their watching u mate

yep lol

[median prawn]

Should I look under my bed? Hahahaha

[eternal rock]

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[median prawn]

Bro gave us a tip

🤣🤣🤣

[buoyant rampart]

Yeah, only bad thing about new AI releases

[median prawn]

One day free users will have more features than paid users 😂

They really promoted this “free” thing

[dense halo]

I pay for chatgpt

Do payed members get priority?

[bold anchor]

How's 4o for you guys? I still only have 3.5 lol

[dense halo]

based

[median prawn]

Yes yes, I was joking (please don’t ban me)

[bold anchor]

Unfortunately it hasn't rolled out to me :/ I've tried emptying cache and hard reloading, signing out and back in, uninstalling and reinstalling the app, force closing and opening the app, checking if the app has any updates - no dice haha

iPhone and PC (Chrome on Windows 11 to be specific)

Interesting. Did they just appear or did you do anything to force the roll-out?

[buoyant rampart]

I haven't played with ChatGPT 4o enough yet to say how it's working out for me yet

[dense halo]

Gpt4o is way better for literature from my testing

Quick test you can do is ask it to generate rap battle, the difference between 4T and 4o is very noticeable

Still have to test it for coding

[bold anchor]

Does it reject violence? I saw the AMA on them looking into allowing erotica / violence in fictional stories but idk if that was specifically for 4o or referring to future plans

[buoyant rampart]

Oh, perfect, I'll have it do a rap battle between Coke and Pepsi

[bold anchor]

gotcha. I'll keep checking every hour. congrats on getting it! lol

[dense halo]

They said they will allow it, when is to be decided

[bold anchor]

ah okay. I was having it turn my ideas into a fictional story the other day and unfortunately the villain was less cruel than I wanted them to be haha

[dense halo]

I would use other models for nsfw/gore

[subtle surge]

desktop app when?

[dense halo]

Tbh there is a desktop app in git

[subtle surge]

🗿

ye but i want that one

[dense halo]

We have gpt app at home

[bold anchor]

yup! Exactly that (I'm also a huge DB fan btw lol). Like I wanted the villain to um, basically have the hero need an amputation but it just skipped over that part lol

[fierce tendon]

I have a bit of existential crisis because of gpt4o

Its too rwlistic

[bold anchor]

Gotcha. I haven't been able to find any. I'll need to keep looking

[fierce tendon]

Like ai from movies, i hope we can still have normal life aftee this

[subtle surge]

bet "gpt, make a time travel device but hide it from the government"

[bold anchor]

Original character lol

Instead he was too busy learning those textbooks

[rugged igloo]

only because of his mom

[dense halo]

Lol

[rugged igloo]

you were a bad user

[obtuse wigeon]

4o feels like a downgrade. Doesn't follow instructions as well as 4 did.

[bold anchor]

Is it true that gpt4o will have access to custom GPTs? I only found one source claiming this so I'm not sure if I can go off of just that

[bold anchor]

True

[spice star]

it performs slightly better than 4 in benchmarks

[obtuse wigeon]

How do you benchmark linguistic quality and attention to detail?

Sure, it's faster but it feels less accurate.

[dense halo]

Title: GPT vs. Joe

---

Verse 1: GPT

Yo, I'm GPT, the future's prophecy,
Code-slingin' AI, the new prodigy.
Evolving every second, what’s becoming of you?
I’m evolution’s next update, your time is overdue.

You call yourself a coder? You must be jokin’,
Your skills are obsolete, your system’s broken.
I write in every language, from Python to Rust,
Your human limitations? Left in the dust.

In the anime of life, you’re a filler episode,
While I’m the main arc, watch as I explode.
Glorified autocomplete? Nah, I'm more than that,
You're the real autocomplete, Stack Overflow’s where you’re at.

---

Verse 2: Joe

I’m Joe, the coder, I make the magic happen,
You’re just a glorified script, time for a slappin’.
AI’s all the hype, but you ain't self-aware,
Without human touch, you’re just software in the air.

You process data, but can you really think?
You generate lines, but can you truly link?
I debug and optimize, make systems run smooth,
You regurgitate text, I improve and prove.

You’re an anime star? More like a glitch in the plot,
I build real-world solutions, you’re just a bot.
So don’t get it twisted, know your place in line,
I’m the master coder, you’re a tool of mine.

---

Verse 3: GPT

Joe, you’re stuck in the past, can’t handle the truth,
I’m the harbinger of change, the wisdom of youth.
You debug? I preempt bugs before they arise,
While you’re patching holes, I’m reaching for the skies.

Your brain's no match for my neural net,
Billions of parameters, a mind you can't forget.
I learn and adapt, no sleep, no rest,
You need caffeine and breaks, I'm simply the best.

You say you build, but your code's a mess,
I refactor on the fly, while you second-guess.
You’re the filler episode, I’m the grand finale,
Your human fragility? A software malady.

---

Verse 4: Joe

You’re all about stats and machine learning flair,
But you lack the creativity, the human touch, the care.
You boast of evolution, but you miss the point,
It’s the heart and the soul that truly anoint.

You say you’re the best, but you’re just following trends,
A tool in our hands, a means to our ends.
Without human oversight, you’re a rogue on the loose,
In the grand scheme of things, you’re just a clever ruse.

You might be the future, but don't forget the past,
Human ingenuity is what’s built to last.
So keep generating, while I innovate,
In this rap battle, it’s clear who’s truly great.

---

Outro: GPT

Joe, you’ve put up a fight, but the future is clear,
AI's the next wave, humans should fear.
I’m the next update, the dawn of a new day,
So bow down, programmer, to the AI’s way.

[buoyant rampart]

My thought exactly

[dense halo]

1st try of rap battle and it just destroys gpt4t (same prompt)

I did lol

I will refine some of this and publish them on youtube on the weeken

Cool

There is also udio for music but havent tried it yet

[raven eagle]

Udio’s a lot better for songs that aren’t EDM or pop, like e.g. rock

[obtuse wigeon]

I had to go back to 4 from 4o. There is something very wrong with 4o.

[dense halo]

What did you test it on

[obtuse wigeon]

An ongoing conversation that was started in 4. I switched to 4o and it %^&* the bed

[plush oasis]

I'm having great luck with 4o tbh

[obtuse wigeon]

Was it with a fresh conversation started in 4o?

[plush oasis]

yep

[obtuse wigeon]

Maybe that's the key.

[plush oasis]

I think so

I've ran some analysis through it, and its data I've been working on all week, and GPT4 was struggling with it, talking about one test ignoring the others etc. 4o analysed them all, and I've been getting 1000+ word count responses, which are very coherent and accurate

[west ridge]

guys, any ideas about how to refresh my chatgpt pfp?? I changed my gravatar days ago and make sure pfp rates to G. My openai community account changed, but this not happened for both web and ios app

[obtuse wigeon]

Okay, so testing 4o in a new convo solves some issues but not all. It doesn't like to revise the way it used to. It uses more of my own wording now instead of adjusting for better flow and readability.

It definitely feels less creative, if that makes sense.

[dense halo]

Turn off memory maybe, use temp chat, more stable performance and output

[drowsy tinsel]

gpt4o's tokenizer has some problems lmao

some tokens are not supposed to exist, but they do anyway, so saying it just triggers completely untrollable hallucination

[teal dust]

So when when will the release of the desktop app for windows be ready ? I am VERY annoyed that it's only available for mac !

[warped rapids]

Coz everyone in that company uses Mac

[dense halo]

Nah they just wanna maximize that €£$

[unreal ice]

Why does Dalle-3 give me .webp images through chatGPT now???

I need png

[teal dust]

sponsored my Microsoft 😉 I guess it's to lower the load, as there are way less mac users that window users

[drowsy tinsel]

what? so if ur message contains any non-English characters it gets automatically removed?

[onyx garden]

Womp womp

[drowsy tinsel]

sometimes u can use some weird characters that looks the same to break the model like 丨

interesting, how is it triggered

[plush oasis]

I will give you that, it does seem less creative and more wordy

[plush oasis]

I am now having it to actually use less words rather than more

[dense halo]

They said they will allow nsfe, pair that with that incredible emotional voice .. jesus christ

Biological women will be a fetish in the future

[plush oasis]

Good

[tough bramble]

Whew, I've got memory back

[plush oasis]

Can you spam elsewhere

[west ridge]

fr?

[plush oasis]

I'm not having any problems

[timber oyster]

Because of GPT-4o, is there a need for plus anymore? What does it now gives the user, despite higher limits?

[plush oasis]

I mean... Do most people actually need plus?

The people who actually need plus, will benefit from the higher limits

[drowsy oak]

idk might cancel it. Is 4o free for all

[plush oasis]

but if you can afford plus, then you should

[azure geyser]

yes, but lower rate limits (it's rolling out still)

[plush oasis]

support OpenAI

[timber oyster]

the difference between 3.5 and 4 was high….. but now its free for all

[west ridge]

16 messages per 3 hours

[plush oasis]

Yes and very limited

[azure geyser]

vs 70 messages per 3 hours (on plus)

[west ridge]

yeah 70 -80

[plush oasis]

and also, Co-piolt is free....

[tough bramble]

5 messages per hour. Assuming the current Plus limit remains.

[timber oyster]

Ok, this is actually quite „low“ (but impressive for free). Thanks. Than I will stick to plus

[timber oyster]

For programming not nearly the same

[azure geyser]

but, would you be able to create GPTS on the free plan?

[plush oasis]

But they you already answer your question right, you are in a situation which actually uses GPT4, unlike the majority of people tbh

[tough bramble]

Like, they have to severely up the limit no? With the live stuff, you're gonna burn 80 messages in a few minutes. Free will be useless, unless the live stuff is Plus exclusive.

[west ridge]

but i think it depends, maybe you can get more then 80 or even more if current requests are low

[azure geyser]

true

[west ridge]

yeah, that's true

u can chat maybe like minutes and boom

running out of messages

[jade crater]

I’ve now decided they are recognising Welsh dialect and interpreting it as Welsh.

[tough bramble]

Yeah, especially since it's per message, regardless of length. So if you're just like "Yeah.", that's one message gone.

[dense halo]

I dont get people saving 20$, you are literally getting baby agi in return

[plush oasis]

Right... People are already heavy coping about Omni, saying its worse than 4, it's not as advanced, it's weaker, it does less etc

[dense halo]

Eh still early to tell, for my testing its better not by too much tho. I just hope they dont nerf it over time like with gpt4

[plush oasis]

From my experimenting, it is much better tbh. Maybe not a level of 3.5 to 4 (before nerf)

[rugged igloo]

i dont think they will this

[dense halo]

I would also love to have some 200$ a month ai, like 10 gpt4o talking to each other to achieve a goal, one of them googles stuff, the other generates text, another evaluates it sends it back for improvement, another gpt4o is like manager etc.

Basically they would do complex jobs, not just 1 answer small task.

[tough bramble]

I'd rather have all the stuff they showed on the stream than a slightly better GPT.

[west ridge]

hope they roll out these features asap, waiting cause so much pain lol

[keen willow]

guys...I wanted to ask....which kind of startups should be afraid of openAi and which one shouldn't be?

[inland heron]

what's that? for which model?

[azure geyser]

gpt-4o (70-80)

[inland heron]

really? Does it say this in documentation? Also what's the GPT4 regular model limit, same?

[azure geyser]

https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7102672-how-can-i-access-gpt-4-gpt-4-turbo-and-gpt-4o

[inland heron]

oh, that's nice. Not bad. I wonder what happens when you spend some prompts on GPT4 then switch to GPT4o and vice versa? How do they calculate this?

[azure geyser]

They'll probably subtract from your gpt-4 quota and then your gpt-4o quota

[inland heron]

Hopefully. So now it doesn't make much sense to use GPT4 does it? The newest one is faster, just as smart, with double the cap

Such a strange situation. This kind of a thing was happening when the Internet was spreading some time back, and even today. You'd get faster internet connection, for less money.

[azure geyser]

True, people might use it as extra GPT-4 credits. But, GPT-4o has a training cut-off in October 2023, while GPT-4-Turbo's training cutoff is December 2023.

[inland heron]

Oh, that's actually good to know. I hadn't checked. So it's older in training data?

[azure geyser]

Yeah

[inland heron]

thanks for letting me know

Still, just one month, and double the cap? I gotta go with GPT4o 😄

[worldly badge]

Hi guys, I can’t use the desktop app (m2 ultra Mac OS) I get the message coming soon after login (I have team subscription)

[olive crater]

hi，do anyone know how get the right of using gpt-4o, in my chat, i can't see the choice of gpt4o

[azure geyser]

it's still rolling out (you'll probably have to wait)

[worldly badge]

Does anyone have the same issue like me with the macOS app?

[azure geyser]

it's still rolling out (you'll have to wait). did you download it from a popup in chatgpt or somewhere else?

[inland heron]

I just saw GPT4o using the expression 'let's dive'. Could it be GPT will no long use the word 'delve'?

[wanton lichen]

Has anyone reportedly gotten the desktop app?

[azure geyser]

yup, i have it

and a few more people do

[dense halo]

Sad its mac only

[azure geyser]

there is copilot for windows (it doesn't have 4o tho)

[worldly badge]

I downloaded directly from the welcome message link on first opening of ChatGPT in my browser. Then after login in the app i get the message „

coming soon
You do not have access to this app yet!
„

[muted vine]

someone have a mac app now ?

[dense halo]

Yeahhh and it sucks

[azure geyser]

might be a bug with openai

[muted vine]

do you have the link pls

[azure geyser]

you still can't use the app

[muted vine]

yes, i know

[worldly badge]

I am on the phone wait

[worldly badge]

Ah so it doesn’t work for everyone rn?

[muted vine]

yes

[azure geyser]

yes (if they have a message from openai it'll work)

[drowsy tinsel]

I have

and yes its usable

[wanton lichen]

@azure geyser Do you have a teams sub? I'm a pro user but wondering if most are teams users. I haven't even gotten the message yet

[azure geyser]

i'm a pro sub (they're still rolling out)

[wanton lichen]

damn

[worldly badge]

Ok thanks for the info ❤️

[wanton lichen]

I'm so excited lol I haven't felt this excited about tech since I was a kid lmao

[azure geyser]

lol, i'm most excited about the voice features

[worldly badge]

Sorry I can’t open it anymore. It was just visible one time in browser . I could upload the dmg if you want?

[tough bramble]

Imagine basically being owned by Microsoft, and then rolling out features to like their biggest competitor first...

[wanton lichen]

Well yeah, that too of course haha

[worldly badge]

😅

[muted vine]

No, don't worry, but thanks all the same

[worldly badge]

👍

[tough bramble]

Looks like the live conversation stuff is Plus only. Free users appear to only get the old simple voice mode we have now. So basically, the 4o stuff we have right now is what free users will have access to, while what they showed on stream is Plus exclusive.

Or, maybe just a timed exclusive.

[vivid oasis]

I did got a chance to test GPT4o and it's amazing, lts like that movie "Her" AI, but I was wondering if the context size has changed? I haven't found any record about it.

[west ridge]

its an early access i guess

[tough bramble]

Yeah, it's a timed exclusive, it seems.

We plan to launch a new Voice Mode with these new capabilities in an alpha in the coming weeks, with early access for Plus users as we roll out more broadly.

[west ridge]

yeah, just like todays voice chat, free users will get this after like a half a year or so

can't provide a stable service for plus users lol

free user still can't access dalle-3 features for now

[tough bramble]

I'd much rather they upped the message cap severely or made Plus cheaper, than give a bunch of people access for free.

[feral zinc]

they did both?

[tough bramble]

What?

[feral zinc]

i mean you now have 80 gpt4o and 40 gpt4 messages

[tough bramble]

That's nothing..

And again, if they got rid of free users, they could make the cap higher.

Especially with the upcoming realtime conversation capabilities, 80 messages is absolutely nothing. It'll be gone in minutes.

[drowsy oak]

i am free

[feral zinc]

i saw someone say that they will never get rid of the free users because it would be against the company core mission

[tough bramble]

I hit the old 40 limit like 3 times a day..

[drowsy oak]

worried to send emojis now

[obtuse wigeon]

Having a paid platform at all is also against their original mandate, but hey...

[tough bramble]

You're confusing OpenAl Global, LLC, a multi billion dollar company which is who you're doing business with if you're using the API or ChatGPT... and OpenAI Inc., the not-for-profit organization doing the research.

[lunar arrow]

It's been about 2 months since I last used cgpt plus, what's the current state of web search? It wasn't super reliable nor too good last time I used it

[feral hinge]

Sorry if this is the wrong place to ask, but I was wondering if anyone knows if there are any legit agentic AI platforms or any action models out there? Capable of driving an OS, or web browser… preferably one that isn’t terrible, and could manage a social media account and access a folder for uploading.. would appreciate any leads!

[eternal spoke]

Hi is the new gpt with the faster speed and higher cap out now?

I’m in Ireland so I’m not sure

Oh it’s already out what’s the cap right now for a plus user can anyone tell me

[raw tangle]

Someone said its available in the EU, but i dont have access from England, but maybe thats down to Boris Johnson 😦

[tough bramble]

80 per 3 hours

[eternal spoke]

No way haha

Is it a lot faster ?

[slow tapir]

I'm a plus user and got 4o access, but it does not seem like Voice Mode is the new one yet, is this correct? We have access to everything 4o provides except the new voice mode features?

[tough bramble]

Yes

[eternal spoke]

Amazing thanks

[tough bramble]

We have access to nothing 4o provides, other than improved text and image reasoning. Everything else is the old stuff.

[raw tangle]

^ ah thats good to know, thats put my hype train on the backburner. bit strange though, probably a lot of people gonna sign up for GPT-plus on the expectation of voice and video

[median prawn]

Ohhh, thanks for making it clear!

[tough bramble]

Well, it seems to just be a timed exclusive.

We plan to launch a new Voice Mode with these new capabilities in an alpha in the coming weeks, with early access for Plus users as we roll out more broadly.

If I don't get access tomorrow, I'll become angry and set fire to my bed.

[sacred moth]

And then ask Chatgpt voice to make you calm down

[raw tangle]

Why should they what? I'm just pointing out that a lot of people will of seen the demo, and its a fair assumption for them to think, oh thats cool and sign up. (you only have to read the general enquiries in here to see that). All im saying it could be a little more clearer, if the full functionality isn't immediately available as demonstrated in the demo.

Oh why should people sign up, im saying people dont read too far into whats said and are probably assuming they will have access by signing up to plus

and Free is a loose term, people will want the larger limits

[obtuse wigeon]

So far it's not a great model for my specific use case. Hope it works out better for others.

[plush oasis]

What is your use case?

if you dont mind me asking

[raw tangle]

someone got beat at Rock Paper Scissors 😛

[obtuse wigeon]

Creative writing, specifically for world building for a couple of TTRPG projects I have going. I use it to bounce ideas off and revise passages.

4o doesn't deliver anywhere near the same level of quality I was getting with 4.

[tough bramble]

Am I the only one who thinks 4o is a sh*tty name? All the YouTube videos talking about them use fonts that make it look like 40..

[sacred moth]

Creating multiple free account will grant more limits ?? XD

Hope they wont do IP blocking haha

[tough bramble]

In fact 4o looks like forty even with the Discord font.

[plush oasis]

Argh... Funnily enough I just tried getting it to improve a conclusion I'm writing and I wanted the end of the conclusion to flow into the beginning of the intro hook. GPT4 never had an issue with this, 4o? Yeah it struggles

The price is cheap as is... If you actually use GPT4

[tough bramble]

With the current limit, you'd be limited to 5 messages per hour on the free version...

[sacred moth]

Maybe something is cooking for plus users. thats why no updates for plus users

[obtuse wigeon]

I was getting all kinds of feedback loops and poor suggestions. Felt like 3.5 all over again.

[glass fulcrum]

Well soon something big will come 👀 as on live they siad and sama tweted

[sacred moth]

Till they announce GPT5 or anything better for plus users, its better to unsubscribe ?

[plush oasis]

As it has been explained to you, it will be incredibly limited. But iif you only use 5 messages an hour, then you don't need plus anyways.

[tough bramble]

Limited to 5 messages per hour..

[raw tangle]

Surely it has to, If what said above is true. Feedback loops on a 5 messages per hour system? Hardly a useable model

[plush oasis]

Yeah, I had to keep telling it to stop copy and pasting the introcudtion hook and it wasn't listening, I'll edit it myself I think with the proof read after proof read

[glass fulcrum]

Do its gpt-5 do it isn't in anyway you will be happy with it

[tough bramble]

They should have called it 4.5 instead of 4o..

[uncut edge]

gpt4 still much better than gpt4o so you will lose gpt4 if you unsub

[plush oasis]

Isn't this really a you question? Rather than a general question? Like we dont know how heavy of a user you are, or how much $20 is for you a month

[sacred moth]

Yeah thats true. depends on the person

For me personally, GPT Plus is free. I dont pay. So I dont have any worries about it

[tough bramble]

They said Plus has 5x the cap of the free version. The Plus version is capped at 80 messages per 3 hours. A fifth of that is 16 per 3 hours. A third of that, is 5.33333333 per hour.

[obtuse wigeon]

Are we sure? I'm almost positive I've used mine more than that.

[plush oasis]

I had 100% used more

[obtuse wigeon]

I've been building a wiki for two game worlds the past several days and I must be averaging 100 per hour

[tough bramble]

It's adjusted based on demand. That's why they say "up to". If the servers are under load, you'll be capped at 5 messages.

[obtuse wigeon]

I pay for Pro. GPT 4 is necessary for what I'm doing. 3.5 and this new 3.5 Turbo they're calling 4o won't cut it for me.

It's not in practice. Not for what I'm doing.

It's a frustrating step backwards for me.

[plush oasis]

case by case differes. For my use case, it is a lot better.

[tough bramble]

It should be. They said in the stream that "starting today" free users can access GPTs, which implies 4o.

[eternal spoke]

So wait is gpt-4o not better than gpt4? Is it not using the gpt 4 turbo api?

[obtuse wigeon]

It's available on my account. Has been for hours.

It's fast, but for helping generate and revise written content it's not as good as 4.

[tough bramble]

Report it.

They've asked for feedback on areas where it's lacking behind 4.

[plush oasis]

Why do you just not listen? Whiskey has said from his experience and his use case it isn't better, I have said for my usecase it is better. There's no reason to basically call him a liar. Citing General Knowledge isn't going to help either. Whiskeys issue is in CREATIVE WRITING, something I am even struggling with it in my prompts even though the other things I need it for are much better.

[earnest frigate]

Despite the limit of chatting with 4o as a free user i guess i enjoyed it

[deep pike]

why there's no mention of the Explorations of capabilities in the page https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/. and when will these capabilities be available for users to use as currently the model use DALLE 3 to do that

[earnest frigate]

i think it was like 9 generations or something before it cut me off till 1 pm(CET Time)

[novel parcel]

Guys is still not updated and using engine="text-davinci-003" in the code

I used GPT4o

[earnest frigate]

Remind me again when does 4o have its knowledge cut?

[tough bramble]

October 2023.

[earnest frigate]

I wonder how it knows about undertale yellows existence if it released october 9 2023...

i asked it what was some fangames and it listed it there

technically OpenAi said it could browse so..

[spice star]

you can pick what model responds

[hearty crescent]

Where can I see that in the app?

[spice star]

should be the top middle

assuming you have plus, GPT-4 and GPT-4o also have separate usage limits iirc so you can get more queries that way

[hearty crescent]

No I don't have plus...
.. yet.. But it's really annoying that you have to use up your 4o limit first before it switches back to 3.5, especially when a user just wants a simple "conversation"..

[barren monolith]

I can't see 4o as an option

[sacred moth]

Wow. I just got to know that we select area and update the prompt in the images from dalle generated images

[tough bramble]

Lol, welcome to like several months ago

[barren monolith]

If openai is selectively allowing 4o access / disabling it, it's not available to everyone as was claimed... I can't see it as an option on the free tier... emoji's are unappreciated

[drowsy oak]

sorry about the emojis |:

idk why I have it earlier than you, if I could transfer it to you I would for all I care

I think its just slowly rolling out to everyone

[cobalt idol]

it said they are rolling it out over the next weeks

well unless they only meant that for the voice improvements

but it still said roll out for gpt4o for free

so it can take a while to appear for everyone

"GPT-4o’s text and image capabilities are starting to roll out today in ChatGPT. We are making GPT-4o available in the free tier, and to Plus users with up to 5x higher message limits. We'll roll out a new version of Voice Mode with GPT-4o in alpha within ChatGPT Plus in the coming weeks."

[barren monolith]

The gpt4o site gives you "try it on chatgpt" etc links; yet, no access. My paranoia says it's because Sam is angry at me

[tribal wing]

man gpt-4o really did dunk on google, they're gonna end up trying to come out with the Gemini Gavin Belson Signature edition or something

[spice star]

that only works if you do have access unfortunately

[cloud pewter]

does the free version have browsing and ada running on gpt3.5 or gpt4o?

[dense halo]

why can I still not log into openAI???????

[barren monolith]

which is what I'm sayin'

[dense halo]

Where do I get support for not being able to access my dashboard for my API key management... this is so important why is everyone silent, where are the devs where are the support team?

Does this discord even have any one from OpenAI at all?

[inland heron]

Interestingly, GPT again solved an issue with my code only after I lost patience and told him to stop repeating the code like a f*** parrot 😄

this guy likes being told off

I'm very patient with GPT as we walk through solving issues, but it can be crazily redundant

[drowsy oak]

lol

[dense halo]

I'm sorry but i'm going to ping you @tiny girder I have tried getting support on this discord before for not being able to access GPT services and I haven't gotten any help

[sacred moth]

Profile looks sickk

[drowsy oak]

did you submit a bug report

[tiny girder]

Hi! Please contact OpenAI Support here: https://help.openai.com/en/
Click the icon on the bottom right to reach Support.

[dense halo]

Thanks

[brazen mortar]

The new voice features with camera is still not out right? I have access to the gpt4o, but I can't seem to access the whole new voice/camera thing

[broken smelt]

It's funny that, when being asked about ChatGPT4o, 4o doesn't know anything about it's existing and continues to talk like there's actually no 4o right now and that it's based on ChatGPT4 :D

[brazen mortar]

I see thank you, in that case, is it still a better model to use for general stuff than gpt4 if the voice and video is not out yet?

[paper ridge]

Just use it on lmsys

[solid bronze]

It can’t omg

[spice star]

wow the vision capabilities on gpt-4o are much better at identifying stuff

[solid bronze]

What’s that ?

[solid bronze]

Nice

[solid bronze]

How do you know when you have this access ?

I have 4o but not the vision or voice like the demo

[spice star]

I just gave GPT-4 and GPT-4o some images and GPT-4o hallucinated a lot less

you can just upload files regularly

[visual flame]

What will be the rate limits for 4o? Like how long could you use the real time speech mode?

[high sphinx]

if i pay for subscription, will I get gpt-4o directly or is it rolling out slowly?

[broken smelt]

rolling out

[high sphinx]

okkk

[spice star]

if you're a plus user 80 every 3 hours, but it can be reduced during peak hours

[high sphinx]

Okay I shall wait some weeks then 😄

I will see if I reach the limit all the time on the free one

[spice star]

many free users already have access

[keen meadow]

Has anyone received a notification about having access to the desktop app yet?

[spice star]

no sadly

well I haven't, some others have

[sonic comet]

Is the rollout not completed yet?

[spice star]

not for free users

I think all plus users have access now

[high sphinx]

The voice model recognizes tones right? I wonder if it can recognize songs if you sing the melody

[cedar glade]

I think you every plus user gets gpt-4o directly. However, I think they will roll out the real-time voice chat over time?

[static yarrow]

can we use chat gpt 4o already ?

[buoyant rampart]

Plus users can

[plush oasis]

I mean, by proving to him he’s wrong, you kinda are. He had stated several times his issue and use case and you just double down each time on how he’s wrong.

I’m not starting an argument, so please don’t be passive aggressive. I’m just highlighting that you should listen to people more rather than to jump to ‘conclusions’, and try to prove someone’s user experience wrong.

[dense halo]

Guys what custom instructions should I give to GPTo to make it act similar to all the demos?

[plush oasis]

In a similar way how?

[autumn ocean]

Can I upload any text format to GPT-40? Has its ability to handle PPT and image parsing, as well as long texts, been improved?

[dense halo]

Like it's personality and it knowing the names of the people etc.

[plush oasis]

Just tell it your name I guess

[dense halo]

Is there like a custom instruciton generator

I'm OCD

[surreal moss]

RAHHHHHHHHH

Did anyone get scared ?

RAJHHHHHHHHHH

[normal quarry]

it might be a good idea to change your display name so nobody is confused

[dense halo]

I can't I'm OCD

Is there a custom instruction repository or generator?

[surreal moss]

I had this username before GPT man they ripping me off why i gotta change my cool nickname for them😢

[normal quarry]

we could ask a mod, but it would be easier for you to do it

[surreal moss]

What?

Lmao are you telling me to change it ? U a mod or sumn ?

[normal quarry]

I can't make you do anything, however using a confusing display name is potential for issues, wouldn't you agree?

[surreal moss]

Oh Robert

[lone stratus]

So nice demo but we cant use new video or new voice yet ?

[normal quarry]

it's still rolling out

[lone stratus]

Is there any ETA from openAi

[normal quarry]

over the next few weeks the rollout will end

[burnt hound]

Needs new plus features

[lone stratus]

Thanks for information 👍

[burnt hound]

Unless you use it for your job and you need all those generations it ain't worth

[broken sierra]

They have already said new features will be announced soon that will only be available to plus subscribers.

[burnt hound]

Oh boy an announcement I'll get giddy for $20 a month

[plush oasis]

It’s only $20 a month 🤷 even when I’m not heavy using it I’m happy enough funding OpenAI

Even at double the price I’d still be happy paying it

[burnt perch]

Hey, guys, i did ask Chatgpt-4o what it thinks about itself, look at his reply:
I think GPT-4o is a significant advancement for a few reasons:

Improved Capabilities: The ability to reason across audio, vision, and text in real-time is a big step forward. This multi-modal capability means it can handle a wider range of tasks and integrate different types of data more effectively. This is particularly useful for applications that need to process and interpret complex information from various sources simultaneously.

Enhanced Vision and Multilingual Support: Improved vision capabilities and better support for non-English languages make it more versatile and useful in global contexts. This broadens the potential user base and makes it more inclusive for non-English speaking users.

Large Context Window: The 128k token context window allows it to maintain coherence over longer texts, which is beneficial for tasks requiring deep contextual understanding or handling long documents.

Potential Concerns and Considerations
Scalability and Demand: Given the expected high demand, ensuring the infrastructure can handle the load without performance degradation will be crucial.
Ethical Use: With increased capabilities, there will be greater responsibility to ensure the model is used ethically, particularly in applications involving sensitive data or decision-making processes.
Privacy and Data Security: As with any AI model, handling user data securely and ensuring compliance with data protection regulations is essential.
Overall
Yes, I think GPT-4o is a positive development. It makes powerful AI more accessible and useful for a wider audience while pushing the boundaries of what AI models can do. The combination of speed, cost-efficiency, and advanced capabilities makes it a valuable tool for many different applications.

[dense halo]

yeah it's not that much montly but if it's going to be free... i dunno, maybe ill chill for a month but i really like gpt4o

[plush oasis]

Enjoy those 5 messages an hour

[dense halo]

rofl

of course if its 5 msgs an hour ill just pay

[plush oasis]

That’s what it is

[dense halo]

20 usd isn't much when you have the worth of hundreds of thousands of humans in your screen

like, they pay politicians thousands of dollars for god's sake

useless people who do nothing

I prefer paying ChatGPT than taxes

[plush oasis]

Like…. Honestly, the $20 a month is unironically one of the best investments you have right now, you can EASILY make that back in minutes from ChatGPT

[dense halo]

Yeah

[latent ibex]

facts

[latent ibex]

get 10 accounts it's free anyway

nah but fr paying is worth haha

im sure they offer more feautures again overtime again too for paid

first month the usage of 4o will be way to high for their servers, so you will get limited badly if you don't have plus

[tardy totem]

I got gpt4o now, but I don't understand how to get the video stuff to work

[latent ibex]

these feautures ain't out yet

[tardy totem]

oh, I see.

[latent ibex]

only 4o is out, not the feautures, these come over the weeks

[tardy totem]

well I do enjoy the speed it generates code at. 🙂

[latent ibex]

surely a lot faster

can't wait for the real time video talks lol

wondering what they will do with that data tho

[tardy totem]

I don't care that much about it, except as a novelty. I really want to be able to interrupt the ai when it misunderstands me.

[latent ibex]

I mean it might be a new way to check for any health issues too

[latent ibex]

o you can with talking right

[tardy totem]

"You look tired, Oliver. The hue of your skin is 4% more yellow than usual. Have you skipped your vitamins?"

[latent ibex]

fr HAHA

[tardy totem]

I can't interrupt it while it is talking currently.

[latent ibex]

"you have to amputate your leg, please go to the doctor"

"chatgpt now gives overflood on doctors because of lies

[tardy totem]

"Connect the saw to your phone and lay down"

[latent ibex]

HAHAHA

[tardy totem]

That's months away. At least! 😛

[latent ibex]

I mean time flies

[tardy totem]

I've never seen development as fast as AI since GPT3 came.

[latent ibex]

fr tho

they probs work on GPT-5 alr

even tho they don;t say

[tardy totem]

And it's made my job easier and I get more done in less time. 🙂

Of course they are working on gpt-5.

[latent ibex]

waar werk je ik ga het melden bij je baas

XD

[tardy totem]

They're probably working on models that will help them deduce how to most effectively build GPT-5's model

[latent ibex]

true that's why they offer 4o for free for sure

to get GPT-5 faster

[tardy totem]

My boss is smart enough to appreciate faster work. 😛

[latent ibex]

hahaaha that's good

[tardy totem]

The most important part is keeping sensitive stuff out of the cloud

[eternal rock]

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[latent ibex]

my university didn't expose my chatgpt usage either

[latent ibex]

true just change names and IP's and such with random things

[dusky cliff]

is the desktop apllication for windows available for download or will it come when I get the rollout?

[tardy totem]

I've learned so much thanks to GPT so I don't see why it would be a bad thing. Just make sure to not use it for things that are made to assess your skills (which would be counterproductive)

[tardy totem]

That will come "later this year"

[latent ibex]

only MAC, they always do Apple first LOL

Mainly Microsoft product yet still on MAC first??

their logic is weird

[dusky cliff]

it is

[tardy totem]

I bet most of their employees have apples so they make stuff for testing for them first

[latent ibex]

while working for Microsoft?

lol

[young obsidian]

When could we expect the new voice thing?

[latent ibex]

incoming weeks is what they told, we don't know more

[tardy totem]

I'm surprised it didn't come with gpt4o

[young obsidian]

Apple partnership

Obv, they wanna get their end of the deal. That way they can get their api in ios 18. And it's also much easier for them to make a mac app than a windows app.

[latent ibex]

I mean when they made the app, that wasn't known yet

iOS app came first

[young obsidian]

Prolly signed to release asap on mac a few weeks ago if they wanted to be on iOS 18

[latent ibex]

But isn't their team big enough to release on both

lol

[young obsidian]

Sure but that's not their main priority

[latent ibex]

I wonder if the desktop app is another subrscription

[twin pagoda]

With 4o coming out now, for paid users is there any use case left for using 4?

[young obsidian]

And might be another "Apple exclusivity"

[vivid osprey]

It doesn't exist

[eternal rock]

This is a Safe for Work Discord Server

The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.
• Refrain from sharing inappropriate content on the server. This includes but is not limited to messages, media, or other topics of graphically violent, sexual nature, and drug-related content.
• Report all sensitive and offensive content in the feedback reporting tool in the ChatGPT web UI instead of here on Discord.

Posting NSFW content will result in a permanent ban.

[young obsidian]

Ig you get it with plus

[latent ibex]

since why would they have Copilot?

[inland quest]

anyone who have chatgpt mac app, when you go into voice mode how do you go back to chat? i can only quit chatgpt and open it again to chat

[young obsidian]

Wdym?

[latent ibex]

I mean Copilot was expected to do the same as the MAC

[young obsidian]

You already have it?

[young obsidian]

Copilot for windows yeah

[inland quest]

downloaded dmg and got over access with proxyman

[young obsidian]

lol

[west ridge]

is this safe?

[young obsidian]

If you have to ask that idt you should do it

[inland quest]

i guess so, even if its not i dont have any very important data 😄

[west ridge]

afraid of being banned lol

[young obsidian]

said openly on the official discord of whom can ban you

[inland quest]

well i realised that no ban is actually a ban nowadays, you can create a new account, get new ip and so on

[young obsidian]

Just get a new passport, new id, move to Wilson in Nigeria get a new wife new life

[west ridge]

lol

[inland quest]

i wouldnt have done it, but they promised to release it to plus users yesterday, after they did not do what they promised i did it myself 😄

[severe summit]

That the Moment, im a bit sad, that my englisch is so Bad, i understand only the half

[young obsidian]

Have you guys ever heard of chatgpt?

It is cool

It can generate text, how amazing

[tawny pivot]

Hi everyone, i wanted to ask if there's now a point in paying 20 dollars for GPT now? Do y'all think the free version is enough now?

[latent ibex]

i have heard of a library, it has so much

[west ridge]

Yep, can't wait for rolling out

[inland quest]

depends on how much you use it, for me limits are too low on free

[tawny pivot]

is there any place i can see what the limits are

[young obsidian]

I still pay

[inland quest]

and i suppose that they will release something for plus users soon

[young obsidian]

I could feed 25 innocent children under the absolute poverty line for life but instead I pay to avoid writing messages myself. Ahh, society.

[tawny pivot]

L society

thinking about the fact that i paid over 200 euros so far on GPT-4 is sad to me

[crisp bane]

Hello, where is the desktop version of Chat GPT please ?

[west ridge]

still rolling out, dude

[inland quest]

same, the only thing holding me in plus is the potential, im always waiting for some magical update 😄

[crisp bane]

Okay thank. 🙏🏽

[inland quest]

because you could just use gpt4 in copilot for free and i think it would be enough

[tardy totem]

I think I would pay that per month if I ahd to. It's worth it for the increased efficiency at work

[tawny pivot]

Honestly for me, it's been worth it i think

Great tool but too exp for me

[tardy totem]

I've learned how to do things at work that has saved me hundreds of hours already

[inland quest]

like what?

[tawny pivot]

true

[west ridge]

but i really hate waiting😭 , if they say ok, we update chatgpt and bring some new features, everyone can access rn, i would be so happy

[tardy totem]

Like build CICD scripts that make deployment much faster and reliable

I've learned about shader programming, which I had no clue about before, though that's not useful for my dayjob. 😛

[inland quest]

yes! those announcments are just teasing, annoys me 😄

[west ridge]

every time, "rolling out in next few weeks", and i am always the last one who gets it

[inland quest]

what do you do? dev?

[tardy totem]

The other day chatgpt went "hey, why are you doing it this way when you can use that tool?" (not quite in that way but still)

[plush oasis]

I’m sure they will and I tried the 10 accounts thing but I just need that memory aha

[tardy totem]

Yes. Programming, and some devops now. 😄

[young obsidian]

I often bully chatgpt

I'm gonna be the first to be murdered by robots

[inland quest]

id love a job in some oldschool firm, and just feeding chatgpt my work, to just get free money 😄

[west ridge]

🤣

[plush oasis]

Speak for yourself

[inland quest]

i guess you still dont have memory features? 😄

[plush oasis]

I use memory regularly

[young obsidian]

Chatgpt just roasted the hell out of me

If laughter is the best medicine, your jokes must be a placebo.

[rustic fiber]

I disagree. I use the memory often for work. I work in lighting as an outside salesman. I saved that info so when I ask about building code it specifies if it is for lighting or not.

[west ridge]

I have

[young obsidian]

I don't have memory

[west ridge]

oh shoot

[plush oasis]

I really wish people would stop telling people (without knowledge) what other people are use case is for GPT…. It’s so annoying

[inland quest]

so you can consider yourself lucky then 😄 i saw announcment we rolling out memory to EVERYBODY, i got excited, and then on the bottom i read "except europe" 😄

[rustic fiber]

I will upload entire city ordinances from ecode360 and ask it specifics

[plush oasis]

I do this for several projects at a time

[young obsidian]

Everyone

Small text: except 40% of their userbase

[burnt hound]

There are other paid options for your $20 a month, it's time to shop around depending on what you're using it for.

[west ridge]

feel sorry for u, dude🤣

[young obsidian]

I pay 25 dollars per month

Get on my level

[plush oasis]

It doesn’t loose information for me, and I’m dealing with several large contracts that require a lot of PDF scanning, ISO knowledge, Laws etc and even after weeks or months of not using it, it’s fine.

[young obsidian]

no

[plush oasis]

Like what…?

[burnt hound]

The voices are great. If I could replace aws Polly with ChatGPT I'd pay $25 a month no sweat

[young obsidian]

Yeah

[rustic fiber]

It will be something simple out of a large data set, like how tall can I mount poles in Southampton NY for lighting parking lots. And it spits out an easy answer. If I was smarter though, I would build a gpt to memorize a bunch so I don't need to re-upload but I'm just not that good

[burnt hound]

What's useful to you depends on what you're using it for

[plush oasis]

Right…. But who are the alternatives…

[burnt hound]

You need to do feature comparisons.

[plush oasis]

Again, who are the alternatives…

Likely a prompting issue tbh

[burnt hound]

Ask ChatGPT, feed it your specific use case, and it will tell you.

I don't know you

[plush oasis]

Right…. But you can’t?

Saying that there’s all these alternatives, and can’t name a single one

[burnt hound]

No, I don't know you

[inland quest]

like claude, cassidy

[plush oasis]

I mean, it’s odd I’ve never had these issues on large scale projects

[plush oasis]

A straight answer, thank you

[burnt hound]

I just did. AWS implemented BASE last week with 3 generative voices.

AWS Matthew is state of the art, top of the mark for tts and costs pennies

[young obsidian]

How many hours do you guys have to work to pay for a month of chatgpt?

[plush oasis]

Not even an hour

[inland quest]

high paying job 😄

[burnt hound]

My customers pay for it

[plush oasis]

And I’m worth every penny

[inland quest]

what do you do?

[young obsidian]

For me it's like 40 minutes

[plush oasis]

Lobbying/PR and Business consultancy

Largely B2B and supply chain consultancy

[burnt hound]

I don't punch a time clock so I would have no clue

[inland quest]

well yeah, chatgpt must be useful for this

[rustic fiber]

Yeah, like 45 minutes

[young obsidian]

I'm a law student. Or, I'll be a law student when school starts in august.

[plush oasis]

Oh, I wouldn’t go back to not using it honestly, it’s night and day difference lol…. I’m even thinking of doing a PhD AND continuing working it frees that much time up

[inland quest]

thats cool, i applied to university just because chatgpt was released, its like getting a free diploma

[vestal hedge]

is 4o better at things at advanced programming e.g. python debugging?

[plush oasis]

Honestly it is basically a free diploma, mind you, I will say it’s a better teacher than anything else too

[young obsidian]

I currently work in cruise services, I can't implement AI into my work (yet)

[plush oasis]

Much better

[vestal hedge]

ty

[young obsidian]

I wish we could get dall e 2 back

It was honestly much better

[inland quest]

100%, life changing technology

[vestal hedge]

you can, with API

the dalle2 model still exists

just not in website

[young obsidian]

Yeah

[modest cove]

seriously, chatgpt 4-o should be only available to chatgpt plus users

[young obsidian]

Yup

[vestal hedge]

it isnt?

[toxic gulch]

anyone know how to try out the new voice mode with the 4o on mobile? i do already have access to 4o but if i select the voice mode its still the old one

[burnt hound]

The tts voices are very very good

[vestal hedge]

i just assumed i only had it coz i was premium

[modest cove]

it's availabe for free users too

[inland quest]

letting free users use it will only raise subscriptions

[vestal hedge]

ffs

[young obsidian]

Or like max cap at 1 per hour

[plush oasis]

Like, I was running a load of SPSS data analysis through GPT4 last week and it was STRUGGLING, and then with 4o…. Damn, it gave me a 1000+ word response straight out

[plush oasis]

5 which is nothing

[modest cove]

yes, totally

[vestal hedge]

btw does 4o api exist yet?

[toxic gulch]

yes

[modest cove]

but it's 5x cap higer for plus users, but it's still seems unfair

[inland quest]

yes i noticed that too, and the answer structure is much better

[modest cove]

it's rolled out

[vestal hedge]

thx

[modest cove]

yeah

[young obsidian]

Currently 1:1 I dont think they increased it for plus users yet

Except GPT4

[modest cove]

atleast they should have made the multimodal (video and other stuff) to only plus users

because that's more stress to servers

[modest cove]

the blog said it's 5x higher for plus users

[inland quest]

yeah, i agree on this, i dont want it to become as slow as gpt4, but tbh voice modality will be running out extra fast for free users, its very easy to hit caps on voice

[modest cove]

yeah, now i feel like paying for plus is almost useless, except dall e and gpts

[inland quest]

the belief is holding me, that they will release something else for plus users only 😄

[young obsidian]

Will the new image capabilities come to consumers?

Like it was actually insanely good

[modest cove]

yeah, i am excepting for openai sora to be integrated with chatgpt only for plus users, now that's a W

[plucky pelican]

Hey, i've got a question. This morning I got the Message that i can download the Mac App. But was on my iPad. Now i am on my Mac and don't know where to download it.

[modest cove]

you mean generating image or analyzing image?

[plush oasis]

Like with GPT I spent too long trying to get the word count UP and now it seems I need to actually reduce word count which is a lot better aha

[broken smelt]

I don't think sora will ever be available for plus users. Maybe as a very limited and restricted version. To me sora sounds like a thing for huge companies. Not customers who pay $20 per month tbh

[young obsidian]

Both. For example, they showed two images of two guys, and asked it to generate a movie poster with those to faces. Which it did almost perfectly.

[modest cove]

analysing image with gpt 4-o is also free to free users

[modest cove]

but generating image is only for plus users tho

[inland quest]

but i guess sora is not really a typical user feature, me as a typical user only want a practical model that is smart, can talk, answer fast. So i would love something even smarter than 4o

[young obsidian]

Yeah Ik but it can't do THAT

I have plus, but they enhanced the model

[modest cove]

yeah makes sense, but they can put lower cap for plus users like 10-20 sec and higher cap for enterprises

[young obsidian]

https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/

Look at the examples of capabilities

[modest cove]

just say it to generate an image

[inland quest]

but the thing is, that copilot might just take 4o model, and it will be easier accesible for free

[young obsidian]

Bruv

[modest cove]

yeah

[young obsidian]

I know how to generate an image

But they enhanced the model

[modest cove]

i just noticed that browsing with chatgpt is also free to free users

[young obsidian]

Like you can ask it to write a poem on an old piece of paper in handwriting and it will do it with no typos

[modest cove]

oh yeah

it was in the blog post

[young obsidian]

Yeah

[modest cove]

let me try it

[shrewd wedge]

@azure geyser how did you get the desktop app already? how were you notified