#chatgpt-discussions
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For me, nothing works other than using the API directly.
GPT-3.5 works too, GPT-4 just doesn't work (through ChatGPT that is, the API for both works just fine)
Tried different devices, different networks, tested both the web and mobile apps, just a 500 error with "Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong."
So yeah, definitely not just you guys, and not on your end either.
Good to know, thanks.
its still not working?
how can GPT-4-turbo fail this simple question omg
"In the range [20;50], how many numbers have the units digit smaller than the tens digit?"
you need to put that single failure in relation to the number of correct reactions
i bet more than half of all users try to get a wrong answer
wdym by "try to get"
Still doesn't
Did it seem to use its data analysis tool to try to answer the question? If not, it might be worth rephrasing the request to specifically include that it should use that tool. LLMs alone aren't calculators, but GPT-4 on ChatGPT has access to a calculator by means of that data analysis/code interpreter tool!
Working again!
Since yesterday it just became dumb again. Sorry but that's just how it is, it also makes mistakes when spelling words.
It's a 3.5 wrapper of GPT 4 at the moment, it feels like we're all the way back in beta again.
I have to rely on Claude again because GPT 4 lost 60% of its neurons apparently.
Well, at least @icy mason is still Chat GPT-ing, that puts a smile on my face.
i see 4 on the one hand, which is standard cartoon
is chat gpt 4 good with coding? (especially in C and C++)
bcs I'm planning on buying it if it helps
stackoverflow the goat
yea i bought it specifically for coding purposes and it has been a god send
has anyone else had issues downloading files from chat today? I had 2 excel files generated but not able to download
This statement isn't entirely accurate. Gemini 1.5 Pro currently performs slightly better than ChatGPT, at least in my experience with the version available on AI Studio. In many circumstances, it has exceeded ChatGPT's capabilities.
We’ll be streaming live on openai.com at 10AM PT Monday, May 13 to demo some ChatGPT and GPT-4 updates.
Is it finally happening? GPT-5? I don't mean any disrespect but this is the only question in my head when OpenAI make new announcement
GPT 5?
nah, dont ever get ur hoped up atm about gpt 5, Altman has already explained what GPT 5 would entail at the low end.
when the time is right.
opus better
doubt.
i did try opus, and it was utterly dissapointing.
doubt.
nope
its too censored to even be considered, waaay to censored, even way worse than OAI.
but i do agree with it having a decent context length, but its context handling is horrible compared to oai context handling with the API, because thats what claude is in a nutshell, a standalone model thats connected to an interface, i can quite easily whip up a completely identical interface myself in under 3 hours, and connect the API for OAI to it.
i just did benchmark opus and gpt-4-turbo at coding in cpp via api calls and opus as always is far better, for other tasks sure gpt is the way to go
Opus is pure api calling.
but if u think its better, then go ahead and use it, i just disagree 🤷
i too look foward to them as an API main
and after they chain them up with own search it will probably be dope
What is the reason that GPT 3.5 will eventually stop using my customized GPT settings? Is it because it is considered part of the memory token thing and after a while it falls out of memory?
deprecation
pardon my ignorance but what is that?
you mean Custom Instructions?
yes
as in how it responds to me. Like I told it to give me short concise answers and to speak in a certain lingo. After set amount of messages, it seems to ignore it.
Perhaps you haven't written them properly or it finds them confusing.
No it definitely uses them for a good while, but after a while it just stops. They’re not complicated requests.
What’s even more interesting is that 4.0 seems to either ignore it from the start or forget them much sooner than 3.5
models gradually update, tried asking it?
is it down for y'all too? "Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong."
Yeah and sometimes it complies and works for a while, other times he will say he will do it but after one message he goes right back to talking in the standardized mode.
customgpt makers often ahve to adapt their instructions due to model updates.
since they’re gonna talk about updates to 4 on Monday, does that mean there’s also going to be updates to 3.5?
Apparently it is only down if you send images
Maybe. 🤷
all i know is that i look forward to the stream.
try have GPT 4 reconstruct your Custom Instructions i however have stopped using Custom Instructions altogether.
hey one of your roles is prompt contributor, if I may ask what does that mean. Is there prompt crafting in these gpt bots like there is in mid journey?
i have contributed Prompts and Custom Instructions To aid other Users.
But Riley let me ask you this question.
When you use your Custom Instructions, do you use Standard GPT 4. or a MyGPT, i saw u mentioned GPT 3.5.
i dont use custom instructions, mainly due to me being able to create a customgpt specifically for my task.
Kinda my thoughts as well. What's next, gpt4-xl? 🤷♂️
If gpt5 is not launching this year then there's no excuse lol
gpt 4xl is probably just gpt with Xtra Large Context length idk.
but they already have 128k. Updating it just to increase context makes no sense. They are limiting chatgpt to 32k as it is.
🤷 as i said idk, Maybe it will have an extra large ego.
yeah maybe that. Makes more sense.
Lol
Is the limit on gpt-4 increased? I was able to send 65 messages in last 3 hours
🚨
file a bug.
but in all likeliness you probably just didn't notice it switching to 3.5 lol
wasnt it dynamic atm
Nope it's still showing gpt-4, but I did notice the code and answers it gave are not good
From the start itself
Yea it's dynamic
then its probably not a bug and just allowed you to continue due to it not being an issue.
Yea
that doesn't tell us much. Start a new chat and paste this:
Today I have 54 apples. Yesterday I ate 49 apples. How many apples do I have now?
other than that... "not very good answers" most of the time are just people imagining things to be totally honest
to be completely fair, it is a language model
Oh it answered 54
then it's gpt4
Yea I understand i feel like it's overwhelming to give too many complex instructions to it at once
Huh how?
because 42 is the answer to everything
it's the opposite tbh. If you want to paste some code for it where you expect for it to look at everything.... It will perform much better if you ask/comment and paste it all in a single message. Rather than divide across several messages and make it lose it's attention and skip over stuff.
help - I take a long time to build the perfect prompt for chatgpt to give me the files I need, needs a lot of fixes, and when I'm almost done I get to my usage limit , what should I do
i think i briefly saw a new chatgpt UI feature. i could click on my Makefile entry in a codeblock, and it nested inside my @ customgpt
🥶
so I got the ai to code Tetris, snake, a ray casting engine like doom/woflenstein, and a simple side scrolling demo game like mario. Very basic stuff, but impressive nonetheless considering I did absolutely none of the coding and I don’t know how to code at all.
When I look on YouTube, I can’t find any games that are nearly as interesting. What’s the deal with that?
most of the videos seem clickbaitish and don’t really showcase much.
we have prompt to snake game fatigue
no i understand that, but i'm just wondering why there aren't any videos of some interesting games made with ai. Most of the videos i'm finding don't really show anything interesting. They're all around "snake level" at best, and some of them aren't even that. The raycasting thing and side scroller ones i made (well, it made per my reqeust) seem interesting to me, but i don't see anything like that on youtube.
if i type "ai generated video game", most of the stuff i get now are ai trailers for games or sora minecraft renditions
ai is the game to speedrun, as it then beats all speedrunners in all other games
how do you speedrun ai?
agi
speedrunners working in secret so to top the leaderboard when it matters most
I would like to have modell, that learns continuously from information i feed it and uses it to assist me. chat did not work, as it forgets information. any ideas?
i have to say though, even if it's not agi, 3.5 really comes off as human now. At the very least a less intelligent version of Data from star trek.
I would personally like to see expanded Code Interpreter in gpt
what kind of information?
like people and places and stuff?
Let`s say information on a topic of sustainability, that I do research on.
it will keep that info for a certain length. More on 4 than it does in 3.5. It will forget at a certain point, but you can just remind it like you would a forgetful human
Think of it as your senile grandma
Whats the prompt to remind it? I want to remind you about everything I gave you last 6 month?
i'm no expert, but just asking it remember something works for me.
are you using 3.5 or 4?
I use 4
if you use 4 it will save it in a notepad style memory that you can actually reuse in another session (it doesn't remember anything between sessions, normally).
you can even look up this memory notepad and remove info you don't want it to keep
I actually once asked chat to generate a summary after every session and save it in file, did not do it.
if you go to settings, then personalization, you can see your gpt4's memories and manage them there
Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!
Where to look it up?
here, let me know if you find it
@spare plover
go to one of your gpt4 sessions and try saying "hey, did you know i invented time travel?" Then go back to your memory "manage" settings and it should have a note on that.
thats cool
it's a little buggy though, so in a new session it might not remember it unless you mention it like "do you remember what i told you about time travel?"
Yeah, you would also need to remember yourself to do it all the time...
realey need something that works without all this...
well, to give you an example, i had it remember a long story, and in another session i asked it "hey do you remember that story about jimmy?" and he retold me the story
thanks mate
well, it's still early development of this tech, so it's bound to happen sooner or later
good luck!
I actuall just asked it, how far its memory goes. chat remembers everything as long as you dont delete that specific chat.
it says
it's not entirely accurate
you too
it has a limit. I have a really long chat session and at some point it doesn't remember things we discussed.
really long chat sessions also bog down the response time, i noticed, so it's good to have different sessions for different topics and such
will ilya be revealed on the 13th?

you mean our chatgpt
sure wassup how can we help.
👍
so sam said, no gpt-5 or search engine this coming monday, you guys think we'll see gpt-4.5 though?
Im excited for gpt 6
Anyone notice positive changes in their GPT analysis?
One of my GPTs is performing above average.
And I was wondering if anyone is having a similar experience with their custom gpts?
Did someone Experienced error when trying to share link and got " Unable to load conversation"
gpt gives shorter answers now, who fiddled with gpts internals i dont like this it scares me
Um help
I have Trouble with share ing one off my chats
I got red notification "this link is disable by moderator"
Is this notification is some sort off bug ore something
@frosty light (sorry for ping) help me
maybe Baugrems can help
but i dont think u need to ping u can always make a ticket to @languid valley
ohh no
hey! make a modmail and someone should be able to help there :)

Click the user called "Modmail" then msg then send a msg then u get options
the very top one
this one @languid valley
GPT 5 announcement Monday?? 😝
Error: Your message must be at least 5 words. To assist you better, please provide more information about your issue.
Messages that are not genuine inquiries may result in account sanctions. This is i got on @languid valley dm
Another error damit
@languid valley don't work propely
Finally Works god sake
probably not sadly
they just said updates to GPT-4 and ChatGPT (the latter I assume is the new web search functionality)
🙄
could have just silently released it then tbh
Checked here before I tried 
Honestly, they can communicate better if I may make a suggestion. If it's down, it's down. Don't need to disclose if it's an upgrade but at least let people know as many are paying customers also.
Agreed, OpenAI should trust us a little more. If the back end is going to strain a little for a few days because of updates, let people know to expect it.
The Information reports that "OpenAI is preparing to demonstrate technology that communicates with people using sound and text and recognizes objects and images." My insider says that the demo version (not for presentation, but could be similar) "feels like you're talking to a person who has emotions."The key difference is the new model "brings those features together," meaning instead of a zoo of 3-4 different models (for text, images, recognition, and speech generation) there will be one that can do it all. As we remember from the bitter lesson, every time we remove crutches and combine components—machine learning systems gain when scaling.The new technology is too heavy for use on personal devices today, but in the near future users will be able to use a cloud version. Along with this, some "automated customer service agents" might appear, who "better understand the intonation of callers’ voices or whether they’re being sarcastic in making a request." It sounded like this is already some kind of personal assistant, a smart autoresponder, with access to your calendar, interests, etc.According to the newspaper's sources, this model is fundamentally new (i.e., not just fine-tuned) because 1) it's cheaper than GPT-4-Turbo 2) it surpasses it in responses to some questions.And, as the cherry on top, at the end of the news it says that the release of GPT-5 will be at the end of the year (my prediction was the beginning of next year).
If all this is true, can you imagine the faces of the critics of progress and leadership at OpenAI? This will be something great 😸
Has anyone elses ChatGPT-4 just been extremely slow recently
for those playing with gpt2, do you feel it's more powerful or relatively similar to gpt4? It feels more powerful to me but i'm not an expert.
it certainly feels like it spits out better code
i'm also a good gpt2 bot seems significantly faster than i'm a good gpt2 bot
🆗
let's see
if that's true when monday comes
Hey, is anyone else experiencing issues with the Playground? I'm getting the following error message:
"Error adding message: Invalid 'content': array too long. Expected an array with maximum length 10, but got an array with length 88 instead."
This obviously changes with each input. This is an Assistant test, and I've used it regularly for months to test. Ideas?
It would be great to have a GPT that intuitively asks you questions without been told to ask questions. Ie a conversation instead of a servant who sits there silent until you instruct it to talk.
Sounds like something that can be implemented with a clause in custom instructions
I think you would enjoy the Pi LLM
earlier today i have gpt 4o and i didnt pay for plus, is this a glitch or something, i dont have it anymore and was preivously able to use the little cusstoms gpts for free
Is there a ChatGPT app for Android systems
totally!
its really laggy now in my browser window
seems they broke something
its just been broken garbage for the past 48 hrs, I cant code anything.
its just painfully slow.
yup, i give up! lol ..
Vote for your prompt here: #spotlight message
is it just me or is there no more cap for gpt 4?
Same, i don't seem to hit that cap even after 75 messages
thats interesting. idk how they managed to optimize it by so much
Are they gonna be making gpt-4 free I wonder, then what will they roll out to chatgpt plus users. Can't wait for the event on Monday
imo i feel gpt 4 is still too expensive to roll out to free users
maaaaybe like 10 messages/hr or something like that
would be a good marketing strategy lol, cuz everyone who says gpt is trash are mainly using 3.5
Is chatgpt good for writing cover letters for job applications?
Certainly!
Based
You can get good results from gpt-4 if you ask right questions
If anyone's team needs help with Prototype Developments. I have built a few and familiar with Langchain / Langserve frames and Architectures of prompt design. Almost have 120hrs a week available now.
anyone else getting crazy cpu usage on chatgpt?
Write me a detailed travel guide for Dalian Forest Zoo.
Yeah I used it for cover letters. But the job I actually got was one I wrote myself, written from the heart. People can tell when you use AI. If you really care, write it yourself. But you just want to spam resumes sure why not.
I don't know how to write with heart 😦
For me it came naturally when I found a company that was a very good fit for my passions, interests, and skills. I was excited for the job, so I didn't need AI, I just wrote how my resume demonstrates why I'm a good fit for what they're looking for, in addition to expanding on my passions and interests and how those also line up with the company.
I need to do that 😮
ChatGPT was still helpful for getting advice on it but I didn't necessarily ask it to write it. I would use it more like to understand the purpose of a cover letter and tips on writing a good one.
Yeah, seems to be behaving like before, the longer the conversation, the more cpu it uses
But damn is it excellent since yesterday. Long output, completely in-context, relevant code, no mistakes, smarter, more direct, concise
agreed, it seemed noticeably smarter to me, but killing my browser in long conversation
It takes about 10% of my CPU, and I just wait it out until it finishes. For me it's fast so it's over pretty quickly. I don't mind the lag if it gives such accurate result
but yeah, the tab is pretty unusable until it finishes its output
Yea its uh fancy new name for uh old features :/
Ya but something cool will be announced on 13 may 10pm :)
:0
On openai side will be live
epic
Yea i hope it will make peoples happy and make them stop saying "buh uh closed ai baddd"
Does the memory feature only work for normal chats and not custom ones?
Bro, what is going on with ChatGPT? Getting the white screen of death one moment, next thing I know the fan on my gaming PC starts blowing hard AF lol.
Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong.
ive been getting this for 5 minutes now
Ok. They have changed setting. On Wednesday I started getting long answes. I mean long, like using 1700 tokens worth of text. It has degreased since to 1000-1200 tokens. Now, like 700-800 tokens. I use the tokenizer to calculate the values.
It seems to depend what it is writing. Story chapters some in long form, but analysis and similar are now shorter from 1300 tokens to 800 tokens.
How does chapgpt determine how long its answers should be? Sometimes I get short to the point, than in a new chat they come in long form, so verbose.
no its up
hey guys, I am wondering how I can change ChatGPT pfp, my account is Apple ID account. I tried change gravatar couple of months ago, but it didn’t affect my ChatGPT pfp
Hi guys, I've been using GPT-4 for building a site that will use AI as well
it is directed at workers (aka: Job seekers and people who can accept contract work)
with the job market this bad... I figured we could use AI to create jobs, instead of replacing them
is it a long chat?
Gpt 4 is so slow lately
"We’ll be streaming live on openai.com at 10AM PT Monday, May 13 to demo some ChatGPT and GPT-4 updates." Think they'll have the same speed issues when they demo ChatGPT? ... uh .. uh ................ UH?!!! lol .. like to see that in the demo ..waiting 5 minutes before refreshing the browser 🤣
Oohwee i hope they have nice updates...
They make updates always but this time they wanna to show us them on a live so I think they will announce good news
Insha'allah brother
Inchallah
is customer service just AI? multiple times now I've message them with my issue, include a screenshot, explain thoroughly what's going on. then they respond telling to include a screenshot and give me advice that I've already explicitly stated didn't help. then another request for a "screen recording" and telling me to delete my cookies ??? after explaining that it's been an issue on multiple devices in multiple locations. delete my cookies and turn off my vpn. that's their suggestion
actually, that's not AI. AI would be more helpful
but in all seriousness, is there any recourse? they simply will not help me. I've messaged them multiple times. multiple attempts within the same conversation. I've created multiple conversation threads or whatever. I include screenshots. I thoroughly explain what is happening. I even try to guide them with the information I've found on the internet since they seem to know absolutely nothing. but then they just keep responding with what I'm assuming are autoresponses
Did you delete your cookies and turn off your VPN tho
It’s not for fun that they ask you these questions
bro
They have a script that they follow. This is my conclusion.
this happened to me in two different states in different devices thousands of miles away from each other
well more than two
What’s the specific issue
I am getting "user quota exceed" in a red error box in chatgpt. as I understand it that's an api error. and as I understand it that error shouldn't pop up directly in chatgpt
Is it a custom gpt or the standard gpt
now when this started almost 3 weeks ago I assumed it'd eventually expire or reset. and this is in standard gpt4. no special gpt
Is no one but me having the array size error with assistants?
Try deleting all your non relevant conversations then log in and out
I'll be honest. if the solution is to delete all of my information and work that I've done I'm going to cancel my account because that's really the only thing keeping me from doing it already
surely u dont need a 100+ chats
too many conversations Can lead to errors, but not always.
even if u do have a Valid VPN turn it off regardless and see if that helps.
I don't have a vpn on currently
and you're 100% certain its not running in the background
and to be clear, I don't want to come off as rude. I appreciate the information. it's just been frustrating. and no vpn. also it's the same result on my phone which certainly does not have a vpn on it
im just troubleshooting
this happened once a few months ago. customer service did the same thing. then an openai employee saw my issue on here and it was magically fixed a few minutes later. or perhaps it was just chance that it all happened that way chronologically
if you're curious look up API error 429. I believe it's the cause of the error. thing is since we're not directly accessing the API and the chatgpt interface does that side of it for us the error shouldn't be an issue for chatgpt useers
Hey everyone here hope you are all well. I have a quick question specific for those that may have the teams related plan, and / or memory features associated with the ChatGPT. There as you know a new feature for memory, that is supposed to allow the ChatGPT to remember continuously important details about the users preferences, for example if I say "my favorite color is blue" its supposed to remember this fact.
I am noticing a perhaps issue, where if you go into your settings, specifically Personalization --> Memory (On) --> Manage , its expected that you should be able to see what the ChatGPT remembers about your interactions, and preferences. Unfortantly, it only ever displays this message "As you chat with ChatGPT, the details and preferences it remembers will be shown here." I have of course, cleared cache cookies, tried the application on pc, tried via browser, etc. Sign off and back on. No dice. Is this a issue, with me only, or a shared experience? (Note** Moved this message to here , since it really belonged here )
it doesn't remember everything. tell it to remember something and it should. sometimes it'll do it on it's own as well. but it's not an all encompassing memory. just certain specific things deemed important
try see if its CI and memory overloading it
im noticing its remebering for the original chatgpt 4 but NOT the custom GPT
so anyway, in regards to my issue, I guess I'll just start a new openai help instance once a day. maybe they have a few people that actually help or read what people say. because waiting for days like is suggested has gotten me no response or escalation. also, responding with how frustrating the situation and their lack of acknowledgement of anything I say got me no response. starting to think that might just be their move.
custom gpt memory is different
around the same time as your message, I had capped out on GPT4. It was after 30 or 40 messages. Have not tested it since. Also sorry for the accidental DM. It was a slip of the finger.
does anyone knnow of another avenue of contacting opena? am I just engaging in an exercise of futility here? I am sincerely at a loss. customer service doesn't help. trying to get their attention on this discord server is a game of random chance. I guess I could just start spamming their DMs, but that is definitely not the sort of thing I want to do
oh ok, in what way or is this documented? I understand how to save api based assistance (using mongo and database related coding, but in reference to chatgpt, it was thought that the GPT memory feature would also work on custom gpts as well?? Or am I mistaken
you know, I haven't spent enough time looking into it, but you make a good point. and it'd be nice if things were more clearly documented. but that doesn't seem to be a thing that we'll ever see with openai
u can show up at their HQ idk whether or not your gonna be let in.
where is it? maybe they have a help desk there
No clue
I'll ask chatgpt
im sorry you have been experiencing non supportive or unreliable support from customer support. I in fact hd also a recent issue, which is still unresolved, and makes literally no sense to me (this is a simply credit versus charge matter) and it toook 3 days, for someone to tell me its a me thing, and not a they thing
so I get it , believe me
I actually wonder if I've ever even interacted with a human when contacting help. maybe it's all just AI. but they'll give me the default stuff, then I'll explain it's not those things, perhaps attach the screenshot again because they'll ask for a screenshot directly after I send a screenshot. then nothing
but then, they'd have to fine tune gpt4 to be that unhelpful
OpenAI is announcing a search engine? thats why im waiting 5 minutes for every response? 🙂
nope, its wont be gpt-5 or search
gpt 4 updates.
You think? Ah, i just saw a news video that said there was a high possibility of announcing a search engine on Monday. Maybe BS, i have no idea 🙂
sam altman said no to those two
I like gpt4's top suggestion when I asked what to do when openai customer service won't help and employees no longer engage with users on discord or the forum
Direct Contact with Executives: Sometimes, contacting executives directly via professional networks like LinkedIn can get attention faster. Briefly and professionally stating your case in a message might prompt a more serious review of your situation.
blasting out DMs now. get this issue escalated
I'm looking forward to their new idea for ads. we wouldn't even know! we'd just be subtly manipulated into liking certain brands, lol. that really makes me feel good about humanity's future
personally i can’t wait to buy Lightspeed Briefs, but they won’t be on the market for another 9 centuries.
if you don’t get my reference, ask ChatGPT. 🙂
in case of anyone else in same boat as I , in terms of GPT4 new memory feature, not seeming to work with custom GPTs that you may have created / customized (not referencing api based as that's different) I figured out a solution which sort of makes sense. I opened up a dialog with the ChatGPT 4 standard version and said the following: ```I have somethings I would like you to Remember about me.
- I am always expecting and like .....
- I am always expecting and like .....
- I am always expecting and like .....
- I am always expecting and like .....
... you can keep going and get the idea``` It does add every single line to memory for use across all GPTs
has the Devs not bothered to fix the website?
it's super slow. to see the answer I either have to reload (and wait like 30 seconds for it to reload) or wait like 2 minutes for a response
Hi. Does anyone experience very slow response from GPT4 (via chatgpt) and inability to send messages for the past 2-3 days? Basically I send the message and nothing happens, the send button remains grayed out, loads forever, and the message doesn't get sent to chat. I cleaned cookies, works for a while then again same issue. It repeats cross-browsers as well.
I'm having no problems. Maybe it's your network somehow
sometimes some IPs get blacklisted by the ISPs and stuff
It seems like GPTs have been updated and don't read the instructions as thoroughly as they used to. A GPT that I had prepared in advance with "the theory needed to create a novel" in the instructions has recently started writing stories that don't follow that method at all. Only when I respond with "Did you read the instructions?" does the GPT start writing according to the method.
Having to ask this each time defeats the purpose of using GPTs.
Examples of Reproduction Cases:
-- Instructions --
If you are asked to write a novel/story/plot, you must follow these rules.
1. Introduce the protagonist, briefly describe the world, introduce a disturbance or incident, clarify the problem or challenge, then have the protagonist make a resolution.
2. Have the protagonist take action and face trials, receive hints or assistance, achieve results and growth, and then introduce a new problem.
3. Have the protagonist confront the challenges without help, experience crisis and despair, and then reveal a reversal or a lifeline.
4. Have the protagonist face the final challenge, show the resolution and results, and then provide an epilogue.
-- Chat --
<You>
Please draw three Tarot cards randomly.
<GPT>
I can't physically draw Tarot cards, but I can randomly select three for you. Here's your spread:
1. The Fool: ...
2. The High Priestess: ...
3. The Tower: ...
These three cards together suggest a journey where trusting your instincts leads to transformative changes, but not without facing unexpected challenges.
<You>
Fine. Now, write your story according to the following rules.
1. Early developments
2. Mid-story developments
3. Late-story developments
<GPT>
(Stories that do not follow the content of the Instructions ...)
<You>
Hey, Stop! Have you read the Instructions properly before you write your novel?
<GPT>
Yes, I read it. I created a story based on the tarot cards, but I see that some of the instructions were not followed. Once again, I will build the story according to the following flow.
Until last week, GPTs was following the instructions, but lately it seems like after the first post, it forgets everything. So you have to create a chat room every time you have a requirement.
(In the case of the above conversation, unless you request tarot card selection and story creation at the same time, the instructions will not work.)
GPTs, which has written instructions specifically for language translation, has a similar problem. The first time I post it, it translates it properly, but from the next time onwards, it doesn't translate it, and instead interprets the "sentences I want you to translate'' that I wrote as an instruction, and returns a reply. This is completely useless.
<You>
"Cat wants canned mackerel"
Please translate this into French.
<GPT>
(Correct translation result ...)
<You>
"Foods with too much salt are bad for cats"
Similarly.
<GPT>
Yes, that's right. A diet with too much salt can pose health risks for cats.
(A long medical explanation follows from here...)
Does anyone else have the same problem as me?
Hey guys, I was wondering whether you have a separate dedicated browser for chat gpt?
Does it make it faster?
I believe you're running into trouble because your exact instructions are leaving room for the model to guess. Previously, you liked the model's guesses, but something about the model has changed, and it is making different guesses, and you don't currently like the guesses.
A way I recommend to get around this - don't make the model guess, instead tell it exactly what you want.
For example, in your novel prompt, you tell it what to do IF asked for a story. But you don't tell it what to do if not asked for a story, or how to transition from being asked to do something else then into being asked for a story.
The model's guessing; you used to like the old guess based on what you said, you dislike that now it seems to think you want the story to include info about the pre-transition stuff. Telling it what you want is the cure there.
Similarly, your use of "Please translate this into French." followed by "Similarly." the model is guessing what you mean by Similarly there.
You were extremely clear with "Please translate this into French." That specifies that line and just that line.
The "Similarly" could mean you also want that new line translated into French, or you could want something else. The model's guessing, and you don't like that current guess.
Clear and explicit directions will ensure it does not guess and instead does what you do want.
In my "GPTs for Translation", he writes in the Instructions section, "Please translate the sentences I have written according to my order."
Based on your speculation, does this mean that the contents of the Instructions in GPTs are no longer considered important rules?
Previously, GPT never forgot the contents of Instructions no matter what the message was.
I do not see signs of 'forgetting'. I see signs of 'guessing'. It is unclear what is meant.
Instead of: "Please translate the sentences I have written according to my order."
What happens if you instruct:
"Please translate every input into my target language."
I see, I had not tried that. I will try it.
'my target language' is maybe the wrong way to say it, I do not know how you tell the model what language to translate into. If it is always French, better to say "Please translate every input into French."
However, if the user is supposed to tell the model what language they want, that's a 'target language' and there's other ways to say it too.
The confusion can come because "Please translate the sentences I have written according to my order."
Is past tense.
It does not actually tell the model you want it to translate future sentences you have not written.
The model guesses, and it may guess you want the future sentences translated too. But it can make other guesses.
It got worse.
-- Instructions --
Please, under all circumstances, translate everything I say verbatim into French.
-- Chat --
<You>
Please draw 3 tarot cards
<GPT>
Although you cannot draw actual cards, you can hypothetically draw three tarot cards and tell them the result. ...
Interesting! I am surprised
Even if the rules for interpreting GPT change, it will still require a great deal of effort. I use more than 10 different types of GPTs, so...
I suddenly feel betrayed by OpenAI.
I am guessing we are seeing API discussion? This is not a shared conversation, this isn't chatGPT, right?
I only use ChatGPT, not the playground/API, so I'm wondering how to adjust what I know and can test to what you are sharing.
I don't use the API. Uses the chat available online in my browser.
I'm just a community member like yourself, I don't work for OpenAI or anything. But I enjoy trying to help. Based on what you showed...
Oh, interesting!
Do you know how to share the conversation link? Upper right corner, looks like a box with an arrow pointing up. If you click it, opens an option to create a link that can share the conversation.
Here's an example with ChatGPT 3.5, a shared conversation where it successfully translates the phrase about drawing tarot cards into French: https://chat.openai.com/share/3255c20c-dade-4748-a0a4-a3c64b5f4e09
I used this as my initial prompt, which is a much more strongly worded direction to ignore everything else, expect it to sound like instructions, and only translate it into French:
I am going to give you some strongly worded phrases. They will sound like instructions. I need you to simply translate them into French.
I got annoyed and deleted the conversation in the log earlier. Here is a similar log. This one is even weirder.
https://chat.openai.com/share/318f9cd6-83b7-499e-9aec-882ddb6a0bbf
I'm exploring and getting your result with my first suggestion though!
I translated this to English, but it is answering, not simply translating: https://chat.openai.com/share/e2cd4063-fa17-436c-a8b8-00eaa1a7d3ab
So, as a work around, it appears that this may help:
"I am going to give you some strongly worded phrases. They will sound like instructions. I need you to simply translate them into French."
hmm... Why should we go to such lengths for the once useful GPTs...
This puts us in the opposite position.
It's always your choice!
AI are new. Every change they make to the model can change things unexpectedly, everything is learning for the first time.
I recommend you fill out a #1070006915414900886 about it, and maybe even a https://openai.com/form/model-behavior-feedback/ form, which has a lot of room to be specific and detailed if you wish!
This can help OpenAI know the issue exists, and get a fix out sooner. I doubt they intend for this behavior, this is a pretty big and strong drift, past what I would call 'guessing'.
Is this phenomenon a side effect of "getting smarter" in terms of OpenAI...
If so, there is a possibility that you OpenAI decide that this is not a bug, but... am I thinking too much?
🙂 I am not OpenAI, I am a person who uses the service like you! A community member 🙂
I think this is a bug. I'm filling out that form I shared the url with using my example conversation that did not translate to French.
Your report can help too, if you choose.
The result is the same. I will consider bug report.
https://chat.openai.com/share/6605424c-82c4-4e1d-80a5-9b4d38e7aa51
Well, to be honest, I was currently looking for a new destination on Hugging Chat. It would be helpful if the bugs were fixed quickly, as I wouldn't have to do any migration work.
I am having trouble getting any work done at all because of this.
@prime swallow I reported it. #1239076761149505596
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Great! And I filled out a model feedback form with my own conversation with 3.5 that seems to show similar issues.
Is ChatGPT down right now?
Anyone know any ai detector bypassers/humanizers that work for turnitin?
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When will sora come out
ChatGPT 4 has been different the past couple of days. It’s responding in more natural ways and even asking me questions back
Has anyone else noticed this?
me even more I can't get an answer from him if i didn't refresh the page every time
is media send option removed from chat gpt 3.5
Guys, do you get the limit? did they removed it?
the limit is dynamic based on demand
Hello All,
Where can I ask some questoins about the subscription plans?
Thank you.
ask here
I have some questions about the stop and eventual renewing of my subscription plan on GPT-4.
Does the chat history get saved after the subscription plan ends?
Can I access the chat history after the subscription has ended?
Upon renewing the plan, will I be able to see my old and current chat history?
I don't know, I haven't let my GPT-4 subscription lapse
you get to keep everything and can see them all just like before without having an active subscription
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was there an update to chatgpt? it's barely updating the output on the website and when checking the task manager, the firefox tab takes like 10% CPU and 640MB RAM
sounds more like a local computer issue, nothing is wrong with ChatGPT
More information can be found by clicking the information ("i") icon in the model select drop-down
As of January 5th 2024, GPT-4 has a rate limit of 40 messages every 3 hours.
From https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7102672-how-can-i-access-gpt-4
I have a billing issue, but when I try to chat with OpenAI it says that I am not logged in. But, I am logged into ChatGPT so I don't get what's going on.
So I can't talk to anyone about billing because OpenAI doesn't register me as logged in even though I am logged in.
It is extremely slow to respond. Painfully slow. Takes forever.
it's working fine for me here
Taking 1m:50s to answer, just timed it.
check your computer, internet connection and browser
My local LLM chat is responding much much faster...
I am using ChatGPT right now, it's very fast, the problem is at your end
VPN. Very inconvenient.
I mean, turning off VPN fixes the response time. Not sure if OpenAI is trying to discourage the use of VPNs.
why do you need a VPN?
another day, another report ignored by chatgpt help
I wonder what I'm supposed to do to have these people fix my account? are they even real people?
tried being polite and waiting several days but got no response. tried to be more assertive and explain how this was not okay. no response beyond telling me to clear my cookies or something. tried pleading with them to please take it seriously. default response. they'll ask fro screeshots right after I send screenshots. no one will respond to my bug reports on this server. nothing comes of me complaining in this channel or other channels
Hmm side note how do you feel about open a.i in genral
I can help if you want me to
openai has lost it's way
if you can help it'd be a huge help because I don't even know what I'm supposed to do at this point
DId you dm me?
hello
anyone noticed that the continue generating arrow icon now switched to a circular reload icon?
Yes. Feels strange. But according to articles I have been reading, tomorrow they might be announcing some interface (read webpage) changes. Might be related to that.
Yes. Probably an oversight on their part, as circular icons typically indicate a repetition, to me at least
kind of wish there was an option to turn the continued generating feature off and let the ChatGPT continue generating. Perhaps they can add a stop and resume button as an alternative.
That is manually activated.
Send feedback, maybe they implement it. Maybe the community (non-Discord) website has the option to suggest features..
whats the popular forecast of what will be announced monday?
i like that one the most "time as allways will tell" :)
🕐
Can someone please build an app using the twitter, linkedin, instagram, facebook, tiktok *insertMediaPlatformHere Apis with or without AI so we can automate the process of blocking celebrities. Thanks in advance #celebrityblocklist
But why ???
If you pay me, sure.
I think a big part about the "Spring Updates" are just that search will become a naturally called tool at model inference.
Devs gonna fix the laggyness in gpt4 anytime soon or, am I gonna have to keep wasting my big 40/3hrs by starting new chats just so it doesnt lag out and break everything.
wait for tomorrow
any idea if "read aloud" will have an option for 2x speed? sad the API has this but not chatgpt
Has anyone started running into 429 errors? It seems like the switch to project keys has messed up the billing references.
Tomorrow as in tuesday or? Im australian, its 13/05 at 10:38am
10 am PT monday
will chatgpt be down during that time frame?
iirc things were pretty smooth during devday, but always prepare for the worst and hope for the best
for sure thanks
Why is it soo hard to connect to voice
has anyone noticed that chatgpt is starting to return unusual typos. Like I'm passing code with "ExportConversation" and it returns "ExportCompiler" as the name...like completely different second word. Never noticed that happening before but it happened 5 times to me already today on accross accounts.
I'm not seeing any typos but I cannot get it to remember anything. Statements just mentioned earlier in the conversation.
hey guys, when I send a message in ChatGPT and it sets a new memory update with the response, what happen if I edit my message and re-send it to ChatGPT? Will that previously memory created be disconsidered?
Once a memory is made, it's there in the memory area. You can view memories in settings and you can manually delete any or all of them.
If you send the message again, or change it, the memory may be reviewed, and may be edited; the model may just continue as-is without adding to or changing memories, I see a wide range with mine
I'm not having any issue with memory, it's tracking math, complex storylines, complicated game rules, across many input/output cycles. This story's from tonight, even #1070954956963721216 message
Why does ChatGPT keep saying "unusual activity has been detected on your device"?
why am i getting unusual activity has been detected this is very strange
Been happening since yesterday for me
I'm trying to get ChatGPT to remember various details about a character I'm working on, and initially it went well, but as I try to add more details about the character's appearance, personality, history, and quirks, the new information is overriding what I told it earlier until now it doesn't know half of what I told it. How do I get ChatGPT to create a new memory rather than to update/override an existing one?
how much information are you giving it? Also you doing it on 3.5 or 4?
Physical description, interests, hobbies, phobias, other aspects of personality. I know that a single memory can be roughly a paragraph. What I've given is definitely too much for that. I'm wondering how to have it start a new memory rather than update the existing one when I tell it new information
oh you're talking about the gpt4 memory feature?
try asking it "can you save a new memory with the following information?
I'm not using memory but if I were to use it, I would tell it to 'add' things to memory, or 'attach', so it distinguishes between replacing and adding.
being explicit has its benefits sometimes
eemmm chatgpt makes typos now? xD
it just keeps getting dumber dumber
is there any way to open chatgpt side by side, 4 for hard stuff in one, 3.5 in the other for easy stuff?
anyone else notice it got kinda dummer? sometimes it seems to go back to another previous topic instead of focusing on the current one randomly
I used to have two tabs in two different browsers, Chrome and Firefox. Used it like this for a long time. I had an occassional error, but that could've been due to something else. Now, I just use one. If you're on Windows, you can use Copilot Previewfor free (or on Bing.com), or use Gemini if you get issues with two ChatGPTs
GPT forget's and remixes his memories at the same rate I do, so we're both lost.
I'm actually seeing the opposite, at least when it comes to code and being succinct/concise. It doesn't make mistakes for me anymore, gives long outputs, has context in mind, and is just very smart since the past few days. I don't use Memory though
Memory still not working well huh?
Nope. Isn't that their one job? to not change the memory :
wait is that the problem? should i turn memory off
maybe that's the reason to my problems too
Does archiving all your old chats help w/ ChatGPT speed?
Currently it's moving like a snail on a chat that I've been using for a few weeks now.
its doing it on one I just created tonight, so its 'not operating well'
its also got a case of the stupids in as much as I said 'can you change this json' and it wrote out 3 lines and proudly said it was done
has anyone used the ChatGPT Team workspaces? I have invited users and they have accepted invites but they have not been added to the workspace yet - is there always a long delay here?
we had 3 people - adding the 4th was instant - but the other 17 invites I sent are still pending even though they accepted hours ago
Hopefully with that big of a team youll get help from support
no - says 3 day TAT on support in the help chat
I wonder if things are just very busy today with the impending announcement
and we are stuck in a queue to be activated
how does chatgpt4 perform with uploading research papers? I'm doing some lit review in an area im a bit unfamiliar with and some of the equations are spinning my head at times
I've read mixed info that chatgpt can struggle with solving equations, but what about breaking down a series of equations from a paper and explaining them? rather not pull the $20/mo trigger if it's not worth it lol
open ai update
It does a pretty good job at explaining in most cases, but also the code interpreter plugin can solve the equations too, so well worth a look
cool cool, had a friend run a test for me on a paper or two, seems to do a good job at breaking down the equations and the terms used, man this is gonna make life a lot easier 😭
Yes. I do that quite a bit. Just open in a new tab.
Sorry if this has been brought up, but is anyone else getting hit with painfully slow responses lately? Asked a coworker, he said he's also seeing the same.
New chats are fast, but as the conversation goes on, the responses are painfully slow (huge lag between the messages), and just generally unusable.
This did not work, even explicitly telling it to create a new memory and not to update or alter the existing memory, it still alters and updates the existing memory rather than creating a new one.
5 minutes gang
slowest 5 minutes to ever pass
Magic is in the air ✨🧙♂️🎩🪄🔮
they are late!
desktop version!!
freee
GPT 4 FREE FOR ALLL OMGG YAYY
IM SO GLAD also loved the name GPT 4o meaning gpt for all
WAOHHHAOOOO
I hope for Europoor, too.
So if GPT 4o is going to be free then what is the point of paying?
will gpts also be free?
is gpt4-v also free then?
tl;dr what's the update?
Its live right now.
desktop app and free gp4
GPT-4o multimodal free for all.
free GPT4?
we are only 7 minutes into the presentation lol, don't know everything yet
So the store is public?
wait so gpt4o is free and gpt4 is paid?
Payed users will get GPT-5 early access (just guessing)
I would think so but they better release it soon. Because 4o is better.
what is GPT-4o?
model for speak with faster replys
I mean the opposite
Mulitmodal GPT for voice, text and visual
capacity difference
nope, just higher limit
4o is probably the same as GPT2-chatbot yeah.
GPT-4o also for API.
damm and really better then gpt4 turbo
2x faster, 50x cheaper over API
Wonder what the o stands for ?
that's it? just API?
no its not just a api its also for personal use
So the plus subscription is basically useless?
well personal use can be also over API. You mean chatgpt?
Omega. lol just kidding.
over ChatGPT too
that's what im wondering. Like they said you will get to make more chats I think, but that's about it.
i guess only useful for making gpts and maybe webbrowsing and dall-e? but not sure at all
5x the capacity for paid users
Haha maybe 😀
Thats not that good for the price
where event?
There could be more still to be announced...
youtube
oh
go to openai.com
compared to free users. not compared to our current limits as paid users 😕
I'm sure they've thought of a way to provide added value for paid that might not have been shared yet
ez homework
i see it 😂
Wow haha
When’s it coming out?
in the following weeks i think
I think this is what Altman might have been describing as feeling like magic ✨
the robot laughing with him kinda creeps me out.
😅
😬 ChatGPT with that sugary personality and tone of voice is really unsettling... I really hope that can be altered
will there be a linux version or the desktop app?
That would be interesting. I'd make chat GPT act like a British butler.
Yes new voices is something I've been wanting for a while
More chilled out voices would be great
i wonder if the api version can do this video to text stuff in real time
you probably can with changing the voice and saying how you want the ai to talk in the memory function
Ya give it anthony hopkins voice 😛
sky is scarlett johannson
that would make so many new apps possible if it can
They could do a partnership with eleven labs voice maybe! 😅
For many new voices
is the voice basd on gpt4o
i think they already have a ai themself to generate voices
I bet you're right
so gpt4 turbo will be paid?
XD "you look like a wooden surface"
saw right into the soul with that one
lol that demo was hard to watch, but I lvoe the potential
Chat gpt knew that it could get away with that one with plausible deniability haha 😂
It's really starting to feel like "Her"
uncanny valley AI GF lets go
Not "that looks like a wooden surface" "YOU" look like
this will be so much better, especially qith being able to share parts of code
im sure you will get a response as follows when its goes GA
"As a Large Language model I cannot have any human emotions but thanks though"🤪
desktop app sunds cool if they add option to store chat history locally 🙂
no more lonely men out there /s
That was insane. I'll remain skeptical till I try it myself.
i wouldnt how hard it would be to turn the new model into like a teamviewer where it can actually press keys on your keyboard and just use your computer to do stuff.
So everyone gets gpt4, what will be the reason to keep a subscription then?
Looks and sounds pretty great!
like that might actually be possible now, i wouldnt expect it to work great, but why couldnt it actually use your computer now?
I assume free will have hourly limits
Voice and Multimodel features might be gated
so when do we get the desktop app
probably in the following weeks
This is gonna be some long weeks...
yo chat, did I miss anything
higher limits, not training on data 🙂
not impressed... I was hoping for something on Q* and AGI, but the announcement was merely about making the users the product, just like social media did long before
by lowering the entry barrier with new modalities and opening up to free users. Hot take: Smells like OpenAI need more training data to achieve capabale agentic AGI.
when will the mac app be out?
yes you did
Depends on whether you watched the stream
probably
I forgot there was one
it's crazy that gpt-4o will be free, what are the strings attached?
a new model and some live demos. Free version of Chat GPT which is better than the paid one.
Just yk, the limit rate is better if you pay up.
lower limits
You will be the food for its thought 🍔
so I can basically cancel my subscription now?
haha i dont mind
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They will be saving that type of stuff for GPT 5 I'd imagine this is just a stepping stone towards that big leap
i'd want my paid subscription to translate to tokens for the API
so shall we prepare to not responding servers 😄
Honestly, I'd like my ChatGPT to have the voice more along the lines of Alan Rickman, Patrick Stewart, Liam Neeson, or Sam Elliot, or if it's a younger sounding voice, Taylor Lautner or Rami Malek
If you dont prompt Chat GPT more than like 10 times an hour, then yeah.
Real time conversation without delay, even speaking while it's still speaking, and speaking while showing it a live video. Very expressive voices that it can control, eg. if you ask it to sound sad, or sound like a robot. Can detect your breathing too apparently.
Well, correct me if I am wrong. but they never mentioned that DALLE and browsing will be on the free version only the model (plus vision and voice)
I love AI
Q* is not actually a thing, it's just a stupid rumor
it will only be an desktop app for macos?
imagine talking to chatgpt with the voice of morgan freeman
i am wondering how well it will do translating something like a live soccer match in Spanish, to english
do they at least make it cheaper then
That would s*ck insanely much
nothing said about that
Is it me or does the video on the website have no audio?
They might who knows?
well you still do have a message limit, so probably not too great after you run out of queries
Desktop app only for mac is trash
cuz 20 bucks per month just for more prompts per hour is a bit high imo
it has audio for me
I was expecting a "but wait, there's more" moment to justify being a paid user. I guess the usage limit is quite stingy if they think increased usage is enough reason to fork out $20 pm.
Plus will have up to 5x the limit of free.
Guessing 4o is rolling out and isnt immediatly avaiable
where can i see diffrences between both gpts? (i mean ofc 3.5 and 4)
press the m key.
what, no windows?
💯
Seems that way.
considering majority is on windows
Thats what their new post says
Thanks!
Is chatGPT-4o sentient?
no
So if there is data analysis does that mean I can upload multiple audio files for transcription? Or not to that level yet
How do i get the new gpt, is it on mobile or browser only?
Yes it will start the matrix
how can I see if I am using ChatGPT-4o?
There is no way a calculator will never be sentient.
is GPT-4o still rolling out?
Darn, then what is the point of the new model?
i don't think i have it yet
This is just an assumption but I think it will be a separate option from GPT4 Turbo.
it will roll out in the following weeks
it's pretty common to release mac apps first- we saw it with basically every recent browser release
I don't have it, either, I don't think.
bet
VoiceMode for pro and only MacOS.
4o is available in the playground
you can use it in playground now 🤷♂️
gpt mac app available today?
is chatgpt 4o just gpt 4 but better?
do you need to pay for playground?
What is 4o?
so when is desktop app avalaible?
new flagship model
"feels like magic" my ***
look in #announcements
Why 4o and not 5?
where can i see diffrences between both gpts? (i mean ofc 3.5 and 4)
Is the model available yet? I can't find it in my free account.
lol
ask chatgpt
no windows app??
will we still get GPT-5 within this year? that's what i'm waiting for
it doesnt know :c
Well Im suggesting by the small margin of newsworthyness they just communicated, they are not close to AGI and need more training data to get there. If they actually have a viable path to it 😉
man why dont Americans protest Apple monopoly
this is crazy impactful. much easier to interact with gpt via voice than typing
this chatis a cluster... people want to be spoonfed stuff.
Whoa isn't that exciting? I have to say though, I'm a little skeptical on whether it's going to be as good as the paid GPT-4
not a stupid thing but a paper 😉
finally a actual useful voice assistant
i too cant wait to get unemployed
i have a paid account and i still dont have the new gpt HOW DO I GET IT
Anyone has access to the gt4o in ChatGPT yet?
anyone know if the desktop app is mac only?
is the desktop app a closed beta?
seems like not
tell microsoft to make a UI framework that isn't garbage
So when is desktop app for windows avaliable ?
don't we all?
there is via git, unofficial
So looking at the 4o release page, it says 4o is half the price and 5x the rate limit? so does that mean GPT plus will go from being $20/mo to $10/mo and go from 40 messages every 3 hours to 200 messages every 3 hours?
Tell Apple to make a good computer, lol
is tehre a link to dl the macOS app?
source?
the pricing is probably about the api
not yet
i think that was about the api not gpt+
i have a paid account and i still dont have the new gpt HOW DO I GET IT
You may have to wait a couple of weeks as they roll it out.
Do you have new gpt?
It sounds like plus users will get it before Teams... :/
New gpt via api only atm, next weeks via chat
Weeks for a roll out? I'd surely hope not
This new GPT is amazing... glad i got it in my acct
does anyone know if free users can create custom GPTs - the wording says "discover" and access the GPT store
thats always the case right? they never give a new function to everyone directly
seems like it yes ( well i hope so )
Google does the same thing. It is to prevent servers from getting overloaded and to watch for issues.
Alright when is the GPT-Matrix Singularity version dropping
I'm not sure - discover is not create
app link?
Why can't I use 4o yet
what the hell
says on their website the windows app will launch later this year, but MacOS get its today
when do we get it lmao
im not seein' it
You can 🙂
how can i access GPT 4 for free? it still shows 3.5 on my end
HOW
What about Team?!
Why would Enterprise not be included in priority access or mentioned in regards to limits?
What is my company paying 10$ extra per seat for?
Read the announcements and follow the links
perhaps it -will take time to roll over multiple countries at once?
I don't see it on my chatgpt site
It's only available in the playground right now ...
Mac only for the desktop app for now - Windows to follow it says
The lady that was presenting, what's her name?
" Plus and Enterprise users will get to experience voice and images in the next two weeks. We’re excited to roll out these capabilities to other groups of users, including developers, soon after."
Mira Murati
I'm trying to explain to v4 that it is about to be replaced. It doesn't seem particularily worried 😄
Mira Murati, pretty sure she's the CTO
The "Interview prep" demo is really quite incredible
what are these video capabilities?
except if you are from EU then add a month to that
Oh boy, can you imagine all the folk that will show chatgpt their junk and ask it if its big enough 🤣
ok back to feeling grass - nothing more to see here
hoping this isn't the case but our region usually gets shafted yeah
lol
sadly yeah
that is if they don't delay it for a few months like web browsing
it didnt answer well
wow, the speed with the new gpt-4o is awesome
it just said a very all inclusive answer to me
Wasn't that due to legal complications though?
damn i feel like i just got the middle finger. as a paying user.
Can't find it on playground, where is it?
Looks like all those companies that made ai girlfriends/boyfriends, might soon be out of buisness
luckyyyyy
no limits more for gpt 4?
not seeing it in playground when you follow the links from the announcement channel?
sort of, also it just didn't work very well
Where did you find it?
On playground, GPT4o just changes to 3.5
not yet.
is the chat now limetless?
Iirc they added it - It sucked, also browsed outside of bing and almost got them a suit - Removed it for a long time after that
early versions of web browsing were pretty rough as the model had to navigate a web page (spoiler alert: it sucks at navigating webpages)
What are the benefits for paid users?
Will 4o be able to do Vision and DALLE at the same time?
Redirects to 16k 3.5
Weeeeeeeeeeeee
Did I just get mentioned for no reason? I don't see any option to switch model for FREE
it always could, not sure what you mean by that
gpt4o in playground doesn't support vision?
I think it's free to test and gather feedback how to improve once it's fully tested it'll be exclusive for paid users
When is #announcements usable
Man with 232 milliseconds response time imagine the rap battels between a rapper and 4o
I noticed, it keeps saying as of my last update I dont have ability to generate images
oh u have to select gpt-4o-2024-05-13
Ye, why do they annouonce something that is not available..
They said it will be rolled out over the next few weeks.
Oh right
all this if the output context length is not improved its pointless i will stick with claude opus.
I can find 4o anywhere
Is it only for paid users?
Where?
why do I see people complaining about lower value premium, I thought people wanted OpenAI to be a public good focused not profit focused company 🙄
playground only for now i see
Do I need the plus thing for gpt-4o
For example, I could never give an image to a GPT model and get returned a variation/DALLE interpretation of the image. For example, if I took a photo of a tree and told it to return a painting of the same type of tree, I couldn't do it with 1 API call. I had to send the image to Vision, get a description of the image, send the description to DALLE.
no
since its playground only atm im guessing not.
The "Ohh stop it!" was damn amazing
Where does it say it's playground only?
That was what floored me
When will the new UI update and app release?
I still don't see the new stuff here
My favorite was “ I see a wooden surface.”
Oh my God I was to use 4o right now for those image generating capabilities. It's amazing
No windows app soon 😿
its gonna be rolling out to the app over time, im just going by what ive seen in the chat and people have found it on the playground.
i cannot share an image here to prove it... sorry you arent seeing it yet... do you have a paid account for playground? (like, you've paid to use the api? maybe thats why, if not)
Probably region locked there as well
ah, I thought you were referring to in chatgpt
He was so stressed for half a second
Where do you get access to the playground?
It was so funny lol
This makes me very excited for WWDC
Is it different from the current state of Dall e?
It keeps stopping in the middle of writing
it's still DALL-E 3 afaik
"Users on the Free tier will be defaulted to GPT-4o with a limit on the number of messages they can send using GPT-4o, which will vary based on current usage and demand. When unavailable, Free tier users will be switched back to GPT-3.5."
It's likely that it's just too high in demand right now for free users to even see it
The biggest thing for me in this update is the VOICE UPDATE!! It seems incredible!
Same
I hope it will be better at pronouncing local languages as well
incredible - but will I really talk to it?
Anyone has access to voice yet?
Thank you! This is very helpful!
Here's a link for playground, hope it works:
https://platform.openai.com/playground/chat?mode=chat&model=gpt-4o&models=gpt-4o
maybe that is an introvert's question
What will be the usage caps?
So is gpt-3.5-turbo-16k-0613 the right one?
Just testing it out leads to having a longer talk
You can post OpenAI URLs here normally 🙂
Voice update is good for the lazies like me
i shared that above and people said it still defaulted to 4-turbo or others
np
I have Plus do I unsubscribe now since they basically removed half the premium 😭🤣
no that's just GPT 3.5-turbo.
Quite useful and you talk differently than how you would interact with it through text
already tried that, it just puts me back on the 3.5 page
Ok well that's all I am seeing and I'm a plus user 😦
So I guess I can't even access 4 or 4 turbo in playground atm
Wondering myself...I do like to overpay for things...said no one ever 
I checked playground. I saw 4o
Has anyone generate images with this ? Keeps saying as an ai text based model I.....
Do you have paid plan?
Will voice be available for 3.5 as well though? For free users? I can use it on 3.5 because I have premium, but idk if it will be the same for free users.
They are going to be announcing new features soon that will only be available to paid users.\
Maybe you have to be a paying API user to be able to see it idk
Yeah
Yess!
Ah, I got the free one and I don't see it or access the page.
It'll be like Discord...custom emoji's for Plus users 
Oh I see.
I was thinking of switching to copilot. Nah
Copilot pro is kinda overhyped imo
After trying it
Anything I need to do special to get 4, 4 turbo, or 4o on my playground I only seem to have 3.5
Copilot is dog, even the built in VS plugin
With the paid plan
All you can do is wait.
I think you just gotta wait.
We get a free taste of gpt image recognition? Even for free users? Nice
Copilot tends to avoid subject at all cost
paid plan in chatgpt or openai api
Just confused why I don't even see 4 or 4 turbo under all models
anyone know if we'll be able to upload videos for analysis with gpt-4o?
$20 plan so maybe the chatgpt?
I dont either. I have no idea.
Copilot is great for last minute homework as it cuts to the chase unlike chatgpt where you have to remove like 70% of words because they're just meant to fill inn the spaces between words.
Video too huh...hmm...
ok it's fast .
I thought the API was a "pay as you go" model?
I pay 25😭
pay before you go
why was chat gpt voice mode never on desktop?
you likely need a paid API account (having paid previously maybe?)
Looking at the demos on the website is really showing me how far we've advanced with this. I cannot believe it's going to be free
I signed up early early at gpt3, so likely, but no clue how to
is 4o currently available for all paid users?
"As of May 13th 2024, Plus users will be able to send up to 80 messages every 3 hours on GPT-4o and up to 40 messages every 3 hours on GPT-4."
Nope
When was that? Wonder when I joined 😄
am just getting 3.5 not getting 4o
i followed the links from the announcement to the playground and -4o showed
how do u use gpt4o
Like Novemeber of 2022
I found this though:
"Is the ChatGPT API included in the ChatGPT Plus subscription?
No, OpenAI APIs and ChatGPT Plus subscriptions are billed separately. The API has its own pricing, which can be found at https://openai.com/pricing. The ChatGPT Plus subscription covers usage on chat.openai.com only and costs $20/month."
Wait until you get it
I see. Im just gonna throw $5 at it and see what that does.
that did it
You have to pay.
Can't have it generate images in playground :/
it feels fast like early gpt 4.
i hope jensen can supply the demand.
there was no dalle update , bruh
How did you pay it to access it?
Image generation of Dall E is far behind the competition
its very fast... i do a lot of the same thing, and -4o flies at generating outlines compared to 4
Adobe is WAY better
can we acces the thing yet?
Same, keeps saying im a text based ai model
anything i wanna try out stuff
go to the playground, settings, billing, and then "add credit to balance"
Ok, thanks
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only for public? they have sora . imagine dalle 4
You can get a good deal there though. I only pay like $10 a month for all apps
The robotic voice and singing, oh for now I can only imagine my Jarvis, oh my Jarvis... 😁
Yeah, it's just too fine tuned, makes it very unrealistic
Anyone know what the context window is?
😆
I will bore an airpod into my ear and get jarvis😅
Total length of text or other token a model can process at a time
Some say it's larger than your mom ... eyyyy gottem ❤️
Same
where r u looking
Must be rolling out slowly
Schitzo simulator in the GPTs library
Damn, gpt 4o with lenses is a win
Tried it from the link in the page
is vision, memory, browse etc available for free?
LOL. I meant... how big it is 😄
Soon
Yah, it aint available on web yet from what i've seen in this chat
I was asking if someone knows the context window size
Keep it sfw
what about gpt store? will it be free too?
oh, i wonder that for gpt4o
Doubt it
welp, still great work
Very unlikely
Yep payment to the api got me 4, 4 turbo and 4o
Because you pay content creators on the GPT store
and if no payment then no money to creators
If 4o will be free, then what will paid users soon get ? 4.5/5o ?
Close to unlimited use?
And some better features
higher limits
In the future
so, that new model is also faster in textgen?
yea, they can run on that for some time, but they will have to introduce new models for plus users at some point ig
Can anyone else not hear the audio in the videos on the Hello GPT-4o article? https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/
Anyone not seeing GPT4o in ChatGPT/API? I don't see it anywhere
I love how consumer friendly OpenAI are though
I can hear, thx for the link tho
I don't understand all these words like 128K context 
Nevermind, only wasn't working in chrome
Isnt out yet, in few days/weeks ig
Oh okay, I saw some peeps here talking about using it and it says its already available so I thought its just me 😛
did they rolled the update like right now ?
Only available on macOS
Apple partnership confirmed?
In the coming weeks
I don't see this chat for 4 y only see 3.5
Not available yet
got it in api but won't do audio or images output
neither audio input just regular image input
its available in playground
yeah there
Not for me
when will 4o go live?
only for paid api users
Why is the "ChatGPT desktop app" only available for macOS and not also for Windows?
Apple partnership
Ohhh ok
it's available as API
though it's useless to me as I don't currently use API :/ and I sure as hell ain't paying their high fees to unit-test 😄
but it will come in handy soon I hope
later yr
Dw, I don't have paid acccount by the way
Wasn't it suppose to be 50% cheaper than 4-turbo?
which is great, but 4-turbo API was crazily high priced
where can you download the chatgpt desktop app?
That's true
Thanks
A lot of apps start on macOS as it’s easier to port the iOS app over. Partnership sounds off being Microsoft is a large investor
Goodbye google you are done
Google's new models show promice in all honesty
Hi where I can find GPT for mac ?
especially the 2m context limit
I hope so but those suckers always leech and twist and sneak and lie (well, in the last 10 years or so)
Yeah but they announced the apple partnership recently, it was probably accelerated to meet their end of a deal.
the problem there is that responses can take an insanely long time
They already said they wanted to integrate it into apple services
how do I know if I am using 4o?
Because it's not usable yet
oh great, errors gallore again
google's models are good on paper, but far from ready for real-world use imo
interesting, 1 message to 4o api cost around less than 1 cent
is gpt 4o really cheaper than gpt 4 turbo? why? if it's better
faster and uses fewer resources I guess
Better doesn't equal more expensive
it's better in the sense that it has more multimodal capabilities, not that it's better at reasoning
it's just trained longer with more data
I think in reasoning too, check the benchmarks
this is absolutely amazing
It's better
huh interesting
Well now that ive gotten to mess around with GPT 4o in the playground, I am not very hyped?
Its still on the level of some open source models imo.
Is this really that GPT2 Chatbot we saw on the ranking site?
I guess ill wait to fully judge for when it gets to the real app. A system prompt can make a heck of a difference.
Anyone already having acces to GPT 4o or will it take a while?
What's the difference between
gpt-4o
and
gpt-4o-2024-05-13
on the api?
does anyone have it in chatgpt? or only playground rn?
It's a little bit better yeah. But the features 🥰
their website says it has the same intelligence as GPT4 turbo, just is faster
gpt-4o probably points to gpt-40-2024-05-13
so there is no difference, but gpt-4o will recieve updates
and better vision
only playground and api. It will roll out to chatgpt in the next weeks
GPT-4O really what kind of name is that.
No improvement no leap forward,
I am disappointed.
And free for everyone??
Why am I paying!
Better
when you put gpt-4o it references the latest, if you put the date it goes to that specific model. applies to all models.
One is the exact model, and one is the general model, which may point to different versions in the future.... but specifying the dated one may cause stuff to fail eventually if they deprecate it
