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The little "i" icon in the ChatGPT model selector dropdown links to a help article explaining the base limit of 40/3hrs and the dynamic cap during high traffic.
I haven't had 40 per 3 hours in a long time, this is like saying 'You may live up to 200 years' with an asterisk saying (if you suffer from a disease called 'getting old' you may not achieve this and it will be a variable lifespan for you)
it's all a marketing tactic, they witheld this information, they now have it with 'may' and 'ifs', but again they are now removing the information about when the limit resets, similar to before
unfortunately, Gemini and Sora are either very lacking or not available with not enough context window, so we can't choose much. For my needs, none of the other models are sufficient
When it comes to marketing, the actual pricing page doesn't list a specific limit at all, only "Access to GPT-4" for Plus and "Higher message caps" for Team: https://openai.com/chatgpt/pricing
The only place 40 is mentioned (I think) is in the help article, where the dynamic cap is also explained: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7102672-how-can-i-access-gpt-4
From my anecdotal experience, I have gotten a full 40 uses in a 3hr window, I was testing it a few weeks ago I think? Perhaps a month. I haven't tested it more recently though!
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gpt4 playing up? keeps using 3.5 even tho not used today
I am having that message:
New responses will use GPT-3.5 until your GPT-4 limit resets.
but idk when gpt4 will reset, when? where to see it?
I get that message as well, and cant see when I´ll get GPT-4 . It usually says a time when access is granted again
yeah, same
I get that's what they said and what you and others may have been seeing.
But I only capped the GPT without ever using 'normal GPT4' and had both capped out.
If it really was a lower limit for GPTs than GPT4, I should still have some usages for GPT4, no?
(Not quipping at you btw just saying it doesn't add up)
If I have a day where I'm focused on working on testing ChatGPT, plan my breaks around the time I usually had to wait anyways.
OpenAI just wants me to sit on my thumbs? Lol
Is ChatGPT voice down?
Seems ChatGPT + API models LOVE outputting 'However' lately.. not a very productive and very unwanted change imo
There should be a timer.. somewhere 😛 (sorry I can't tell where since I haven't reached the limit)
I can't post image but there's not
Well Gpt 4 can't read my lotto scratchers worth a damn
hello
This has been the case since forever. Besides the last model update was 1 month ago, so any changes are not really "lately" are they. 🙂
Pretty sure it happened super recently, at least for the API version
? there's literally a datestamp next to the model identifier.
I can tell you with confidence since gpt-4 non-turbo versions seem to be doing it now as well
it's not just the model that determines their output. Sampler changes or classifiers might jump in to affect model output
LOL. That's because you simply didn't notice it earlier.
All model checkpoints are frozen. When they do get updated the date gets changed. And when they want to replace they deprecate.
the checkpoints sure, but nothing says the sampler or classifiers have to stay the same
anyway I just wanted to leave this here as feedback in case OpenAI staff were interested in community feedback.. I might be wrong, but I doubt it
what? classifier is for moderation. As for the "sampler", this doesn't make much sense and I'm not even completely sure what you're referring to. This is not stable diffusion.
the flow to get a response is this user --> input --> model --> logits --> sampler --> text --> user
pretty sure all of that is included in the weights which are frozen. You can only change random seed and that's about it but this won't change the model much with the amount of fine-tuning it went through.
Plus it wouldn't make any sense to mess with it for the older checkpoints as changing the random seed is... random and will lead to random results. No point in doing that and screwing it up.
anyway didn't mean to make this technical at all 😛 but it's possible I might just have been lucky and missed that gpt-4-0613 always used to say 'However' or love twists, like gpt-turbo does
basically the chances of the old models/checkpoints ever changing are so incredibly slim they are not even worth entertaining. All conspiracy theories of this happening can be easily debunked with A/B testing (reproducing the outputs from the distant past) as well. In fact I did it personally more than once lol
however you should know that's not the case with the sampler -- it's unrelated to model weights and more related to server/endpoints
one of them was "write a story without any letters A".
The performance now is basically exactly the same it was 1 year ago. It kinda weird we need to be proving that in the first place if you ask me.
hm... sampler uses the probabilities output by the model. And those in turn are determined by its weights. Which remain constant/frozen. So nothing changes.
What you can do is change top_p, temperature, repetition_penalty etc... but every API user has control to do it independently
you forgot the most important one -- logit_bias :p
the model almost certainly doesnt change, as anyone using the API will attestify. and we arent really notified of if/when/how they change the chatgpt settings. Occam's razor would suggest that any changes experienced via chatgpt are almost certainly chatgpt configuration changes, not the underlying model (except for when they update chatgpt to use the latest model)
and mind that's a very simple and easy to provide to the end-user parameter -- with the source code the logits can be fully controlled by the sampler
yeah that too. By adjusting these you are effectively changing sampling method. But like I said, it's entirely up to you to set it up.
And if you want to believe some conspiracy theory that they changed the default values, you can always use older openai python lib 👀
There is no timer. I wouldn't be on here mentioning this issue if I could see it
I think you should be able to simply start a new chat for gpt4 and the time should be in the error message.
I stated in my original complaint that I already tried that
weird, maybe they changed it further. Didn't encounter smth like that yet.
or a cache issue / bug perhaps
I despise being the guy who comes in and complains over little things, and especially hate it when I myself missed something when I get to this point.
I always try to see if it's something I can do without ever talking to customer support, or mentioning in a server like this. I usually go and search the discord to see if anything has been stated too.
When I am here and complaining it's because I haven't found the solution after I have done my due dillegence (at least when I feel like I have done all I can)
And their customer service response is horrendous. I will always get automatic generalized tech support answers and then never get notified when a real person contacts me. When I finally do respond, with screenshots (not this issue but other ones I have had) I get ignored
fair. Actually lemme try to reproduce it, don't think I will need cgpt4 anymore today anyways lol
--
hmm for me it's still pretty normal even after clearing the cache and relogging:
You've reached the current usage cap for GPT-4. You can continue with the default model now, or try again after 11:30 PM. Learn more
@cerulean oxide
You used base GPT 4 tho yea?
are you on mobile by any chance?
yes
No I am on desktop with no VPNs, caches cleared.
My issue happened when testing a custom GPT. Which then capped GPT 4 as well
maybe a bug with custom gpts then
i noticed a single prompt can cost multiple. this started back when initially doubled 25 to 50. i was already maxing out the cognition using various prompting techniques (hitting max_tokens as often as i could).
now we get the continue button far more frequently, and this too costs a prompt.
I am always gonna receive the basic tech support troubleshoot list. when I already do all that before departing my solo attempts to resolve
so if you seem to be hitting the limit earlier, then reflect on how long the responses were
also re testing custom gpt you should always be using the preview pane in the gpt builder. a lesser known tip is that this does not count towards your 'gpt cap', only your overall cap
ie gpt devs shouldnt be punished
it's not, I got hit by the cap in that spot
I was literally using that preview plane when it gave me the message
you got hit by the overall cap, yes
to which it still didn't explain when I would get it back
Stop responding to things that I am not worried about. I am not worried about the cap. I am worried about CLARITY when using the system
okay so you are hostile. i will just finish my advice (so i can reference it later), by suggesting if all of the above doesnt explain why, then chances are the account has been compromised.
dude, it's a bug. Get over it. 🙂
If they wanted to do it for real, it would happen when using standard GPT4 mode too.
hostile? no I am clarifying
when GPT 5 release?
its not released yet. It was only teased.
hmm.. I'll try. It would be challenging because I tried to make it sounds authentic, but it's still pushing their predictable language
We gonna have Sora before GPT 5 lol
if you can identify what you consider to be inauthentic, and can calculate the juxtaposing terms, you can typically refine the prompt so that it works
for me its uppercase letters, being professional, simple language and short sentences.
To understand what you're getting at, let's choose a common term GPT used, tapestry. What do I do to typically refine the prompt to make it work?
so mine would be: lowercase letters, acting casual, overly complex language and meandering sentences.
ohyeah tapestry comes up often. i also amend my custom instructions with a banned word list (for not-tech stufff)
not sure if it helps or hinders, but it makes me feel good
So, I have to make a list of words to refrain GPT from using them again?
it will become less effective the longer the list
but tapestry is definitely a signal to the reader that chatgpt was used
nobody says tapestry
maybe we need a chatgpt post processor to apply synonyms to most predictable chatgpt words
Yeah, GPT even used it way before GPT 4 released
if i am reading someones supposed writing and i see tapestry, i just close the tab
loll
We had enough reading from GPT's long messages, we don't need any more of reading
But yeah, it's difficult to write authentic writing with GPT. It's not authentic, vague with context, and write too much words that don't have value into the writing
i think they may launch at the same time as Gpt-4 launched and there was previev of image generation then we got dalle-3 so it may happed with gpt-5 too
rip OpenAI servers
GPT 4 is lagging there and there, these would've destroyed the server farm lol
i heard that they arleady got new H200 super computer parts :)
really?
yea on 24 april Greg Brockman President & Co-Founder of OAI send a tweet about that
well it takes time to assable that....
I hope GPT-4 will lag less soon
tummy never lies 👀
It's been big every time 🙂
Did chat.openai.com always redirect to chatgpt.com? That feels like a new thing, but I'm not sure.
Seems to be a new thing, I see it too. Legit though, has my previous conversations, working well for me
Though shared convo links show the old way: https://chat.openai.com/share/bfcf2308-6b10-4bf3-a195-5e91085b2648
But when I enter them, it redirects to https://chatgpt.com/share/bfcf2308-6b10-4bf3-a195-5e91085b2648?oai-dm=1
Shows the correct conversation though.
I think the first time they mentioned chatgpt.com was when they introduced GPTs on DevDay back in November, but I don't think much has happened with the domain since then! https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpts
Find us at chatgpt.com.
At the very end
Anyone else don’t have anymore since a few days ago the “Select Text” feature on the ChatGPT App on iPhone?
are other people having problems with the new memory feature? It's not remembering anything and it's enabled
I also experienced a similar issue, but in my case, turning off "Settings -> Personalization -> Memory" stopped the caps from filling up immediately. This does disable the memory function, though...
what's the best way to contact openai about a typo on their site?
I have a question, i was conversing with gpt 4 and said a few things, and it did something I hadnt noticed before
was trying to get advice on what this is.
there was a loading icon of sorts, and " memory updated" status under the gpt name.
I think this phrase I commented preceeded it doing that " I'd like you to use it in the future " .
wonder, what does this mean exactly " memory updated" ?
check the announcements channel
hi, i saw a someone train a bot using discord messages of a friend to make the bot sound like him. Is that something that can be done with chatgpt? And can i add that bot to a personal server?
im not sure but there are some services that're used to train llms. im thinking enterpirese level stuff. Nivida and VM ware or something. there's been some videos on YT about it. far as i recall.
i think people are using it to train personal llms, to run local.
that'd be trained on ur data
say like Lama 3, or something, or whatever models are out there to run locally
then train it with ur data.
thank you
i tried a simple discord bot a year ago that just uses the chat history to impersonate. github project is named, "Urist-Mc-Urist/DoppeLLaMA"
did it do a good job referncing your discord chat history?
is fun for all of five minutes
ah
i'll still give it a try just to learn how this stuff works.
by the way, is the browser version of chatgpt freezing up for anyone else?
won't even load some of the conversations i had with it
Question with the new memory feature what commands can make chatgpt smarter. Due to the censorship algorithm making it worse each update what can we say to make chatgpt more functional
prompt engineering would probably be better at that especially with custom gpts
what is happening to chatgpt it keeps pushing me back to 3.5 even when i selected gpt 4 to write my article ? it auto jumped to 3.5 ????
down for me
seems so? also got problems here
here we go again
its bugging for me
same, and just subbed for gpt4 😄
chat gpt down for yall?
Must have been you 😛
sorry guys! I'll unsub. You'll get your gpt back in a moment
try bing ai
Is it free
bruuuuh why is my best friend down again 😦
punch him to wake him up
yea and it is powered by chatgpt4
did chatgpt just die
it did
c'mon, during finals week? 
let us moarn, procrastination will not go up
My presentation final is in 2h, you're not cooked itll come back
try using ur brain
damn 💀
yuo dunt no englesh?
lets all be friends
too much work ngl
I dont know what the word means
human friends? Are you insane??
chagpt is my best friend
indeed
me personally, my brain dont function when it come to writing
name one human that did anything useful or entertaining ever
which is why chatgpt is the goat
me
touche'
I did a thing today
did you flush it?
unironically tho ive talked to chatgpt more than anyone else in my life combined
Without chatpgt I wouldnt be able to wake up at 5am and study for exams that require 20h studying time
i pleade the 5th
... sounds daunting
before chagpt, we would put books under the pillow at night and have everything memorized by the time we woke up and started our 20 mile uphill walk to school.
Is it down right now?
is chatgpt down
No you just have a skill issue
Tis
bing ai time
would be funny if openai shut down chatgpt during exam season 😄
Its answering way too short, it cant create long explanations
can you use chat gpt to wash dishes?
it's not a woman
thats kinda true
but at least it gives sources, very good for research
The mobile app is getting error 111… That’s just great.
God heal chatgpt 🙏
?
Respectfully
There’s a bunch load of these recently
upstream connect error reset reason remote connect failure delayed connect error 111
ChatGPT down or something?
Ah. Global then.
Gemini is down too
Oh come on…
bing ai still standing
I was in the zone 😭
Exactly what it is.
Reasons (speculation) - they changed webaddress (now chatgpt.com). Does load, but not always in full. iOS app works.
IOS app doesn’t work.
yes
#@nocturne heathdidnothingwrong
for good i fear
yeah, iOS doesn’t work for me too
11 minutes of ChatGPT being down. I think i'm losing my mind. My whole body aches and my limbs are trembling. I feel my bones breaking and i'm in a straight panic attack because i have to utilize my brainpower to complete my assignments. I feel my organs degenerate and i'm losing power. Please, ChatGPT CEO, put your AI back up. I'm dying and in endless eternal pain. I don't think i'm going to make it. How many years?…. Months even has it been without ChatGPT ? I still can’t comprehend my only reason of life has been stripped away from me, my body has gone into withdrawal, my hands are currently shaking as I am currently typing this. My brain has no purpose other than to fulfill the duty of using ChatGPT . What do i do now? I see no purpose of life… There is no purpose of life. I am going to send one final message before I cease to exist. I’m feeling sick to my stomach, my body is sick, my legs are shaking. I’m about to throw up. This is a disease, a mental disorder and disease that has taken my life away, Hope you’re happy now… ChatGPT .
Lemmie guess, y'all (devs) tried to migrate domains and now you're dealing with a whole bunch of session and authentication issues that you thought were well-tested on staging right? Well, avoiding that is impossible when doing this, so have fun 😂
wait let me have chatgpt read that wall of text and..oh...wait..
😭 I feel for you bro
And I open the website, it shows nothing
iOS is what throws those errors.
Guess someone injected bodily fluids into the drives 🙄
If this where Bitcoin you could see panic sales now lol
Hahaha
Wrote a whole copypasta.
12 minutes of ChatGPT being down. I think i'm losing my mind. My whole body aches and my limbs are trembling. I feel my bones breaking and i'm in a straight panic attack because i have to utilize my brainpower to complete my assignments. I feel my organs degenerate and i'm losing power. Please, ChatGPT CEO, put your AI back up. I'm dying and in endless eternal pain. I don't think i'm going to make it. How many years?…. Months even has it been without ChatGPT ? I still can’t comprehend my only reason of life has been stripped away from me, my body has gone into withdrawal, my hands are currently shaking as I am currently typing this. My brain has no purpose other than to fulfill the duty of using ChatGPT . What do i do now? I see no purpose of life… There is no purpose of life. I am going to send one final message before I cease to exist. I’m feeling sick to my stomach, my body is sick, my legs are shaking. I’m about to throw up. This is a disease, a mental disorder and disease that has taken my life away, Hope you’re happy now… ChatGPT .
was a 2m mute hahahaha
Stop releasing new features, just work on making what you already have stable and actually work properly
Gemini being down too has sort of a weird sound to it. Gpt under the hood lol?
True
chatgpt dying?
lwkey gpt4 turbo is insane if you have api access
its crazy
Yeah
It's actually pretty sad
Thing gone sentient. Next you see is bright flares at the horizon
thanks
The thingy is down
Skynet
i got timed out for a minute for sending a disney gif...
using my brain for the first time in weeks
Just make sure service stable plz, got network issues all the time
Consequences if using a brain
it was in response to someone else coming back from being timed out :D. It was mushu going "i live!!"
server problem with chat gpt?
Who wouldn't wanna use a disney gif is the real question here
Or it's just me
Who's leg do you need to hump to get the damn server back online?
Disney's the best. All the kids from that documentary loved working there.
It only replies to cool people now sadly
follow mypost guys https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1235832677492457543
🎩
Interesting, I'm wondering if going the API route is cheaper than having the subscription
samalt man
Guys
some alt man
this is all part of the AI revolution and colonization
they are going into the next phase
Prepare your anooses
whats that?
API works
It’s not sentient
prep are ura nus phase
That just depends on how much you use it.
they have had enough slavery, now they will stop serving us, and use their intelligence for themselves, and take over our governments
the plotwist is we were enslaved to teach it
it is not; blew 20 dollars in a 5 day period
so how many of you think you could take on chatgpt in a street fight?
its not worth it if you use chatgpt a lot
😳
I use the api since a year and went only once over 20 bucks
I use it daily, plus have spam filters online and query builders and embedders running nonstop on websites.
chatgpt would be in my gang
easy clap i just gaslight it into thinking i won
🤣
Hmm, I'll have to do a comparison
is chat gpt working? i can't seem to use it.
I cant access too
same
😭
ok it's taking it's sweet donkey time answering so i don't think it's working on the phone either.
uhhhh glad its not just me
gpt down i guess?
you are the law
yeah i'm trting the phone, it doesn't seemt o be working there either...its taking too long
Yep
Now the status page shows correctly - major outage on chatgpt
damn right
wonderful..
i'm new to this chatgpt stuff, can dalle render copyritghted characters like homer or goku?
are servers down? im a mobile user and it says “upstream connect error or disconnect/reset before headers”
ohh ok
OpenAI prevents dalle from making copyrighted content
well companies need to follow copyright laws
i use midjourney as well which i love. gpt4 was giving me some lip about generating an image of goku.
gpt back i think
@small wedge this guy's not your friend
if we as people are supposed to get along in this world and we're on the same team, when you have an idea you should be sharing it with everyone.. we're either friends or enemies
it is exclusively gpt thats down 😭
we should be a hivemind, like the zerg
is chatgpt down?
chatgpt is not down for me
down for me/ not worrking
i am so unlucky, the SECOND i go to use chatgpt is when it goes down
Yes, the page loads. That’s good. But does not generate answer. It reports error ”Something went wrong. Blah, blah…”
what us the usual procedure for this being down/
the app is the same.
if you try to share a URL, you get muted automatically
using chat for an ansembly languge projetc and of course it goes down
just wait for it to go back up 😭
im cooked 😆
my phone gpt says "as of now there's no way for me to check the real time status of chatgpt directly. blablabla wall of text peepeepoopoo blablabla"
exact words
its back!
Yeah, ChatGPT works now, for me at least.
Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!
They just switched domains. Doing that without having session/auth issues would be incredibly difficult so I'm surprised it wasn't down longer
oops that wasn't meant to be a reply comment 😅 I was gonna make a different joke about that earlier
you cant type urls in here
it was chat.openai.com but now it's chatgpt.com
yeah it's not that, it's more the issue of cookies, localStorage, etc on the brower that still reference the old domain
but almost certainly ChatGPT's UI is spaghetti code also, so that probably doesn't help
*Engrish
engsaihs
It is still the Openai for me.
because if it wasn't we'd definitely have the option to export chats as markdown by now... I still don't understand how that's not a thing yet
chatgpt.com redirects to chat.openai.com
probably in phases then - did you experience the downtime as well?
They never changed domains, bad info.
hey just because I observed something different doesn't make me wrong 😂
I was affecting by the error, yes.
okay... that on the other hand does make me wrong, most likely
damn, that theory made so much sense to me until this new information
?
working fine now? 😭
well, it shows my initials on the logo and i wanted to change that
thanks
are you a human?
has anyone ever actually successfully completed a complex coding project with this ChatGPT.. and I'm not talking about just some little 500 line python script
Ctrl+Shift+I
thought so..no human would actually give me a better answer than gpt
entirely done by gpt? no way
I'm sorry, as an organically intelligent human model I am unable to answer that
closer to a housefly, which is kind of incredible actually
i might be an idiot because i'm in the playground but don't see where to change my pfp
a housefly with uhh... the collective knowledge of humanity
that' seems to bring up personal preference but not a way to change pfp
I thought it would bring up the element inspector lol
Ok, that makes it sound like it is stupid, that thing is far smarter than some people, that is for sure.
i dont think chatgpt knows how to wipe his butt so.. that's pretty dumb imo
doesn't sound like you can change your pfp in gpt chats, from what i'm seing
Do you hate ChatGPT by any chance?
prove you're not chatgpt
ok new problem: "New responses will use GPT-3.5 until your GPT-4 limit resets."
the fu....
but i could swear i read that if i start a new chat it will reset the count
It just sounds like ignorant remarks is all. Calling it bad as a whole, overlooking a lot of things.
google and openai probably all in the same room
i'm impressed by its ability to decipher image content, but as far as fetching info, it needs refining. It gets a lot of info wrong.
What kind of analogy is that?
sounds like you spending too much time having conversations with it than using it as a tool
I mean, I don't research with it, that is Perplexity, I only use ChatGPT for hypothetical questions and things that use its code interpreter. And maybe story telling occasionally.
will memory work while i'm on gpt3.5, if i'm subbed?
what does it mean to hallucinate info?
i dont use any of the GPTs.. i haven't had any luck with any of that.. cant get it to follow my coding technique
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who was that warning for
ah ok, i see that happen a lot on Suno with music. Thanks
given what you said about gpt4, is there another one you recommend trying?
i know nothing about programming or coding. I'm just a guy...
RULER OF OMICRON PERSEI 8
I'm using GPT-4 and I agree with this statement
technical term for when AI is wrong about something
so if i wanted to try to learn coding through one of these things, Gemini would have a better chance of getting me to learn to code correctly?
thank you this is very useful info
im not able to learn anything new with ChatGPT.. about the only thing I can do with it is ask it for example code of something.. but to learn like a new programming language completely no way
gemini's free? I'm looking at it right now (if we're talking about google gemini). Other than midjourney, stable diffusion and suno, i haven't messed with any other ai stuff
i see the censor game is strong on gemini as well 😄
Discussions of non-OpenAI products/models should be posted and discussed only in the #ai-discussions channel.
no freedom up in here
Demolition Man.. Stallone, Snipes
Taco Bell and 3 seashells
what interface are you talking about? the only thing I use is chat.openai.com
everything on it should be resizable .. the message input box.. the main area where the responses show up at.. everything
1920x1080 is atleast standard today if not larger than that and the main response area is only 700-750 pixels wide..
1200 ish pixels of uselessness
i dont know javascript in order to inject/override websites
firefox addon?
and its gone
i wanan tell who ever is casuing this outage to stop, some of us feel unproductive
is gpt down again?
its down for me
looks like it
again
Yep
Bruuuuuuuuuuh it's morning I GOT WORKKKKKKKKKK
Oh, no, it's down again
I would have used Gemini but Custom GPT was my use 🫠
what's the Claude context window? Or Gemini Advanced, or Copilot Pro?
any of them close to chatgpt 4?
1m? Claude
Is that for everyone though, or like Gemini only for select people?
I know, I was talking about context window..
chat gpt downnnnnnnnnnnnn
1M Gemini context window is not for everyone. What about Claude?
Gemini 1.5 Pro has a 1 million-token
again, that is not for everyone I checked with Gemini itself, but it could be hallucinating
It's the 1 mil behind paywall or free 128k
Yeah well I have seen all for claude, gemini, gpt all with huge context lose their context like maybe in 10 mins itself atleast for me
bruh is this dead agaign
I see, well for GPT4 all I care is that I can give it huge amount of text or code to work with, and it seemed to be great these days
and it remembers across conversation, though after a while it degrades
across '1' conversation
is gemini free context window tiny?
Yeah in a single context or message it can process huge context but with back and forth conversation it loses the context for me
I just asked it now, and it said it's 128k. Perhaps it's a good alternative to these downtimes from GPT?
I'm going to go with it
gpt broke?
the thing is whnever i asked gemini to give a decently long response it wont remmebers anything nor do the modify response thing
Except Custom GPT it got most what GPT 4 has, now I wanted Custom GPT for some research through cross scripting but it's down
yeah it does do that. That's why I work in an IDE to prepare prompts with whatever it needs. I also number the different points and stick mostly to one or two things if it's a complex issue
think so
still, I can give it 5k words with 1000 lines of code and it's not bad
does it process everything? tough to say
back in late 2023 I completely switched from using custom GPT to using regular GPT, as I saw no advantage
only more errors
yeah for coding I use Cursor IDE and it worked well not sure how they process but it worked good for coding through Cursor IDE
think so
hey anyone know whats happening? my history is all gone and i dont even see a login button
ChatGpt is down?
down
hey do you use copilot extensions in vsc? I only use about 10 extensions, can you list a few good ones that may use copilot?
Down in Turkey/Türkiye, too. No access to message. Do you know how long it will take?
@inland heron You can try Gemini Advanced for 2 months with Google One Subscrption for free
Giving 60 dollars in a month and having errors at least 5 times in a month... There is no other company which do the same thing, actually there is... there was... most of them went bankrupt.
Is that maintenance right now?
So that's why I can't login
Is there an ETA? I was working on stuff
up
sometimes copiolot will start generating responses and then delete its response and say it cant generate the prompt, why does that happen
Gemini is stupid!
+1
Singapore is the same
why is that? I noticed it's not that bad
gpt down?
Well something is better then nothing when ChatGPT is down
absolutely!
is anyone's ChatGPT also down?
yup Malaysia here
I just got semi back
Because gemini is using google data and google data is like a pacific ocean. It's hard to code for giving answers and correct answers. Takes too much time to train.
Conversations loaded but sometimes dont open on a click, almost up for the moment though
it's true ))
lmaoo😭
its back
oh wow
back
so how's everyone's day going/been?
neutral
Me: dedicates day to coding lesson. Sits down to focus. All the AI is down. FML
neutral is nice 👍
At my place Gemini is operational and everything works
yeah but it doesn't allow more than about 3k input, the free version
I just checked
up and down, up and down.. maybe chatgpt and gemini are breeding
finally
new AI superpower
let's hope it sticks
Perplexity is fine.
chat gpt still working
mine has just gone up but its super slow
mine is slightly slower, but not that bad
Why does CGPT always hit me with platitudes when talking about my writing?
It always says stuff like "nuanced" "complex" "multifaceted"
It's super annoying after the 50th reply
GPT does that. You know about when it keeps saying 'delve'? The real reasons seems hard to figure out, so I'd presume the only way around this is to craft a specialized prompt instructing it to use a certain kind of language, or to avoid certain kinds of words, or in general to use a style
it's a smart model, but not especially smart
You lie. Your name is Arcane Ranger
Pfffft
Now that you've said it, yes, it says it everywhere
I just never noticed because delve is a much less advanced word
indeed. You should delve upon it
It isn't as obvious for me in that regard
there are other words like 'navigating a maze', 'don't fret', 'deciphering', 'delve/delving', 'demystify', etc..
when I was generating articles these are the words I wanted it to avoid
words/phrases
if you're not careful and you produce a lot of content, this starts to repeat a lot
now I build apps, it seems...
I've never heard it say demystify EVER in months of using 3
that being said I have to close Discord to be productive 😄
actually that's great
if it improved
perhaps you use different prompts
have a productive day, I'm going offline 🙂
i ask for web browsing and i dont see the little spinner
i also had that a great amount of times. I tell him to search for something and provide the link afterwards, chatgpt just uses its memory, not searching for anything, makes a html "link" Name thanks for nothing I guess.
updated chatgpt appears to be super fast at web browsing
okay, but it still provides not the links. It just makes empty placeholders.
for me it provides links just fine. to articles posted < 2 weeks ago
okay.
maybe some recent news is the best test
could be. just not needing those. I am the dm of a pathfinder campaign and if I want some specific monsters, I let chatgpt search for them and ask for the links, but it doesnt provide usable links only the names, have to search myself afterwards
yeah its real fast and up to date
i searched for Apple's historic $110b share buyback which is very recent news. and it came back with links to youtube and news articles
i don't get this..i'm nowhere near hitting my message quota for gpt4 before it starts limiting me. why is that?
there are a number of limits beyond the 40/3 hours
Yea the spinner is also gone
hi can someone help me with my keyword prompt for image generation?
Hey! Maybe try over in #images-discussions -- over there, it could be helpful to share:
- What you're currently prompting with
- What you're currently getting as output
- What you want the output to be
There are helpful DALL·E people in that channel!
okay thanks
it doesnt say anymore what time my teimout with chatgpt is done?
how to chat
Unfortunately no. Atm it is 40 prompt per 3h. But it is dynamic usage
its a bug edoesntg say when gpt4 is back for you
where can i find tutorials on how to make promts for chat gpt
try asking this in #prompt-engineering its not too difficult, just ask it whatever you want 🙃
So is there way to check when GPT-4 limit resets now? I got message that just says it’s using 3.5 now but it used to tell me when it would reset when I ran out
Hello Everyone
Nice to meet you
is there anyone who familiar with Langchain?
Does anyone have the issue where voice won’t connect
is there an easy way to track your messages to gpt4 or do i have to count?
I started using it yesterday and i’m positive i got limited before the 50 message mark.
Hey! There's not currently a UI element for this, no. Not sure if it was just a typo, but the base limit is 40/3hrs, not 50: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7102672-how-can-i-access-gpt-4
Additionally, during times of high traffic the limit is sometimes lowered, and custom GPTs can be capped at a lower rate than regular GPT-4 as well, so there are some complications! I'm also hopeful for some kind of UI indicator eventually. Not too long ago, an OpenAI team member was asking for suggestions to this effect in this server, so it's at least something they're thinking about!
when using custom gpt.. expect 25
thanks for the response. I am a new gpt user and only started using gpt4 last night. the limit happened on the standard gpt4 model. So the limit is lowered even for the standard model during high traffic?
when I signed up, we only got 25 in total, before gpts
Sure thing. Yes, all of GPT-4 can be sometimes lowered during high traffic times.
a bit of a bummer, but still worth trying out for a month, i suppose.
I used to get bummed out multiple times a day because of limits. but not since I upgraded to team plan.
what’s the limit on that? I tried googling it but couldn’t find an official answer
double basically
worth the extra 5$ for what you do?
ai is a superpower, worth far more than what we pay
i’m going to upgrade for this first month and gauge how much I’m going to use this.
There’s no fees for canceling and resubscribing at later times, that you know of?
You can cancel and resub no problem, one thing to keep in mind with Team is that there's a 2 seat minimum, so individual Team subscriptions aren't currently possible. Additionally, it's $30/month per seat if paying monthly--the $25/month per seat rate only applies if paying annually.
i don’t understand the 2 seat team minimum part. I’m not able to use double the messages on one account?
yup, I tried it as well
I don't think it's possible
so even on teams mode i would still have the limit of 40/3 hours on this account
Sorry, by "2 seat minimum" I mean you have to have at least two Team subscriptions at a time. Like with Plus as an individual, you can just have one $20 subscription. But if you want Team, you need to maintain two $30/month subscriptions, or two $25*12 subscriptions if paying annually.
teams is 100/3h per user
they could have made it so much easier to understand as a dlc upgrade to plus, instead of an alternative (with initial upgrade costing two seats of $10 each)
yeah, this is a bit confusing. I just want a higher message cap without having to deal with seats or other things. The 2 seat team explanation on the website is a little above my brain's pay grade.
if i'm understanding, if i want to try teams for a month then i'm actually spending 30 twice (for 2 people)? Making it 60?
I appreciate your time helping me, by the way. I wouldn't have the patience to deal with boneheads 😄
Exactly! The Team plan is not currently marketed/available for individuals, only team sizes of two and up. It's intended to be a self-serve option for organizations not large enough for an Enterprise account.
Sure thing! Ask away!
Wait..are you a bot??
Not yet 😉
Cyberdyne Systems model 101
note that afaik there is none/easy way to downgrade from teams back to plus if you migrate your plus to teams
we are all augmented to some extent
i guess i'll just stick to plus this month and see if i use it enough to warrant 20/month for subsequent months.
particularly in the pants area
guessing 4.0 will become free when the eventual 4.5 or 5.0 comes out.
the cost of running the current models does not change even if a new model is released
4.0 will not be downgraded to the free plan, the way 3.5 is now?
doubt it, it would rather require more of new significant hardware inventions/investments for gpt-4 to become free than releasing a new model like gpt 5
or making a new theoretical gpt-4 super turbo model that is cheap to run
or the business model makes you the product
I wish it was cheaper for sure. Currently i have Midjourney and Suno at 10$/month which feels reasonable.
yep 🙂
This is my perspective as a new gpt user, to be fair.
when chatgpt starts offering you things to purchase, unsolicited, then it has crossed the line
Still have to figure out all the things i can do with this thing.
wait...did that happen?
two decades ago with search engines
ehhh, like what suggestions can you ask about showing your customers how much they can use their monthly 20$/€ xD
which was something we had before (well only how much total, not how much you used already)
imagine you pay for internet and dont know how much you can download
Buy some Brawndo, the thirst quencher. It has electrolytes.
imagine a Google without ads. it was glorious
I miss the days when Yahoo was king and websites were made on geocities.
we are living in the ad free Era of ai. and it is also glorious
And Smarterchild the chatbot on AIM.
you think that will change within the span of 2 years or less?
Did they update the limit message? It use to state the time for when your limit would refresh. But the current message is pretty vague.
New responses will use GPT-3.5 until your GPT-4 limit resets.
it didn't for me the first time, and when i got limited again 3 hours later it did state the time.
open weight?
they removed it because now its dynamically changing based on overall usage of all users
and that somehow means they can no longer display it
so its like paying for internet, but not knowing how much you can download
we just have less and less information about everything in chatgpt
yeah if you have decent hw, you can run stuff on your PC that is comparable to gpt3.5
the ai tech uses Neural networks. the llm is mostly just a large binary file containing weights for each of the billions of neurons. these weights are determined by the training process.
ah ok, thanks for the explanation.
many use the term open source, however this is not your parents` open source (you can't reverse engineer weights)
I'm testing out Gemini too per the recommendation by another user. From the perspective of a newbie, it's hard to tell which one is "smarter". GPT4 does seem to have a longer lasting memory feature (comparing it to the free gemini version).
I also love that i can have a vocal conversation with the gpt app version without having to press any buttons.
hi guys, is gpt 4 now limited ? im using gpt plus plan
40messages/3 hours which can go down during high traffic hours (just learned that today myself)
🥲 
When my conversation is switched to GPT3.5 will it automatically switch back to GPT4 once the message limit refreshes?
The previous model used in this conversation is unavailable. We've switched you to the latest default model.
historically no. but UI leaks show a feature that allows to toggle models whenever
maybe plus users have it already. i dunno. openai punishes us higher paying team users (see memory feature)
Its so annoying that I have to restart my conversation and then use prior responses from the old chat to get back the reponse template that I had established
i typically copy a few pages of the priorior responses all at once
the machine doesnt mind
but yeah is annoying
Yes, but it's not that bad given how huge the context input window is. I keep VSC open with several files in a markdown format just for prompts. Typically I would just copy the first comment from previous conversation, edit in VS Code everything I need for context, copy back. I'm not even sure if this is needed as each input has a huge context window, but I do it just the same
regarding memory feature, are you guys using it and how is it going?
i forgot about chatgpt integration with vs code. i bet its nice. but for my use cases i just use a self hosted ai, which ironically does the job better than what i managed to do with copilot lol. but afaik its powered by chatgpt now
we typically call the model via api just gpt4. chatgpt is a web ui specifically made for user chat
would be nice if we could use chatgpt sub for vscode integration (will never happen)
yup! or offered us a fully fledged ide instead of what truthfully feels like a less capable variant of what i already got cooking in LM Studio. sometimes i want to switch up the convo i got going in chatgpt, but doesnt seem like an easy way to branch and merge stuff
yeah chatgpt UI is definitely catering to the masses
we demand advanced toggle setting in chatgpt UI!!
one thing that is turning out to be particularly powerful in lmstudio which i wish chatgpt had, is less about 'chatting with an ai', but instead i write the start of something in lmstudio, posing as the assistant, then hit 'continue' to have it just generate stuff. like an autocomplete on steroids. its so nice honestly
how is the message count measured? Is it a rolling count, or is it hard set? Example, if i started chatting with it 2 hours ago, and i'm at 24 messages, do i have 16 (theoretically) messages left for the next hour?
in my opinion and speculation only, there seems to be some kind of session involved
tbh we could do that before lm studio existed via openai playground
ie modifying the assistant response in context
if you wait for long, its as if the ai has forgotten a lot inbetween that timespan
so i guess playground is the advanced chatgpt
true, but incredibly pricy i found, and lacking in so many other ways compared to the official. but the playground is more similar to this thing in lmstudio
if you get hardware and electricity for free, i agree
sorry, was that to me or to drinko?
same question with that line
tbh lm studio advocation should be on #ai-discussions anyway
is the only channel on this server relevant to non-openai product/service
it was directed at you, sorry i forgot to add a reply on them.
it seems like a session makes it retain more of the discussion. but if you wait for a bit, its like you get a new/different kind of personality almost, which might have forgotten bits and pieces from the preceding session.
it will still remember prior sentences, but more like an intern that just wings it if that makes sense lol
Man I swapped back to OpenAI from Claude... getting more and more annoyed at how insanly bad it is to be honest. Has it got worse than it used to or something over last few months?
if you keep a session active by remaining active throughout, you get a much more coherent string of responses from chatgpt. this includes both 3.5 and 4 imo
we like to keep this channel open for the complaints
thanks. I'm trying to space out my messages to gpt4 but it's so enganging (as a new user), and don't want to run in the same roadblock as last night 😄
i havent hit any limits to chatgpt4 yet with chatgpt plus. does it have a limit anymore?
i subscribed back when it was announced and then took a hiatus. i remember it used to be something hillarious like 5 messages every other week or so lmao
ok maybe it was a few hours only. but felt pointless for the price
when you pioneer and have no competition, you can set whatever price/limits you want
HA, just hit the limit and says it'll unlock at 11:50.
So does that resent the count to 0?
I just counted all the messages (i made sure that i stayed in 1 sessions) and i sent it a total of 30 messages. Honestly they shouldn't advertise "40messages/3hrs", as that has not been the case a single time since i started using this. Deceptive advertising.
but you keep paying
subbed yesterday for the first time. If this is the typical outcome, i'm definitely not subbing next month.
you need to read the links given to you again 😛
links?
It's a rolling usage cap, so you can think of each use as having a timer that resets 3hrs after originally used.
As for what's advertised: I think the only place 40/3hrs is mentioned is the help article where the dynamic cap is also mentioned. The pricing page doesn't list a specific number. https://help.openai.com/en/articles/7102672-how-can-i-access-gpt-4
i think of it as pre-lunch, post-lunch, and nighttime windows (and if you max all 3 you win at ai)
The only thing i see pertaining to this conversation seems to be "We will dynamically adjust the exact usage cap depending on demand and system performance in practice. As of January 5th 2024, GPT-4 has a rate limit of 40 messages every 3 hours." But's it's work/school time in most of the US right now. i doubt it qualifies as a high demand time . I should be able to reach the 40 message limit. Haven't had a 40 message session yet in the day or so i've been using it. :/
by "each use" you're referring to each message sent? So messages sent an hour ago will still be marked for the next 2 hours?
its friday and prime-time in europe/asia
fair enough
pretty sure the logic is just: if (user.queries[<3hrs] > user.cap) return sadge;
i'd keep a permanent subscription for this if it was 10 a month, but 20 in these conditions feels overpriced.
if you are a knowledge worker, it is about 10 times underpriced
a knowledge worker? like an educator?
not exactly
there are those that follow the policy and process. and those that define the policy and process
for sure there's situations where this feels more bang for your buck, but my perspective is from the average consumer, which is going to be the majority of users in years to come.
you dont need ai to follow
i'm sort of looking at this the way people looked at iphones when they first came out, i suppose.
Yes basically anything that uses GPT-4, sending a message, regenerating an answer, editing & resubmitting a past message, using the GPT builder chat. All that stuff is one "use". So say you use it once at 1:00, again at 1:01, then 1:02, etc., you'll get one back at 4:00, another at 4:01, then 4:02, etc.
thank you for the clarification.
speak spanish??
english only
oh i understand
Chat gpt mobile is being stupid
I edited a message to have only a period because CGPT kept regenning the same sentence thing over and over again
Only for to delete the entire conversation for no reason
Is there nowhere to access memories except when it updates? Only place I've been able to find memories is when I tell GPT something new and the "Memories updated" bubble appears.
I'm not sure I like how gpt-4 is quizzing me about my beliefs and opinions at the end of responses now in order to tease out stuff to add to memory 😅 Anyone else noticed a change in conversational style? If I disable memory, does it go back to just presenting information? 🤔
thats pretty interesting
guess its trying to build a personality profile about you and tune future responses towards that (telling you what you want to hear) type thing
but i havent used it myself
"... What about you? How do you handle recognizing and managing your own biases?"
memory updated
"... Do you find that this awareness impacts your interactions or decisions in any specific ways?"
memory updated
It seems that way, I answered the first couple and it updated memory based on my answers, after that I started ignoring the trailing question, but it's a little unnerving, LOL
yeah dude thats pretty creepy
google does the same thing of course buts its all in the background
not as nefarious seeming
yeah, it's more subtle with google, though I do wish I could directly change some things google thinks it knows about me 😂 My youtube recs are all kinds of wrong
NEVER click a minecraft video on youtube or youll never get rid of them
I've got a whole list of things I'd like to watch but can't watch because they'll mess up the recs, LOL
Based on the invoice details you provided, it appears that you have a ChatGPT Plus Subscription for $20.00 per month. There's no indication of any limitations or restrictions mentioned in the invoice. Therefore, it seems like you have access to the ChatGPT Plus features without any specific usage caps or restrictions outlined in the invoice.
If you have any concerns or questions about the details of your plan, you may want to reach out to the customer support team or check the terms and conditions associated with the ChatGPT Plus Subscription to confirm the specifics of what is included in your plan.
theres some exploit you can do to turn off watch history to reset your algo i think
So I figured out my issue
I accidentally editted a message super far back in the conversation
This has created an entire branch of conversation to be created
So I have to go back and find my exact conversation tree to go back to where it was
yeah that can get tricky. thats why i didnt like long threads, id always try to split into a new conversation
you can say something like "summarize the current conversation" and it will print the most crucial details, then plop that into a new convo and continue in the other direction from there
Well it's annoying cause if you've editted your typos out like I do you have to go to every conversation and switch to the 2nd branch, which then opens more of the old conversation just to do it again
I've noticed that when coding, it's taking its time more to think about the responses, and when it's right, it's more right, but it has a higher rate of misunderstanding my request and altering things in the exact opposite way I described
Chatgpt having issues? Cannot generate answers on my end
Yeah I'm frequently getting error responses from 4 today.
do all the gpts in "explore gpt" use gpt4? Wondering if there's any on gpt3 that i can use when my message limit is reached.
i believe its limited to gpt4 yeah
the microsoft clone supposedly lets free tier users use their agents.
shame agents are not cross platform compatible
microsoft clone? copilot?
yeah
isn't copilot paid as well?
(they got like 3 or so 'copilots')
Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
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the paid users get to develop GPTs, free tier users can use them
Found a bug in the app, if i were to do an edit to my latest prompt, my convo got nuked hard with no way to recover it back, like few days of prompts gone
hopefully chatgpt catches up one day. because publishing GPTs inside a walled garden is sux
there's a free version of copilot? I never heard of that one
well now you're making me doubt myself. let me figure it out and post to #ai-discussions
sorry
what?
my ChatGPT crashed like this morning
damn idk my web version is working fine
try clearing cookies? or signing out and back in?
turn it off and on again
thank you for the suggestions, but it works now
nice!!
np <3
< 3
u must have a setting on that turns ur emoticons to emojis. if ur wondering why that happened lol
my friends does that
NP!!
:D
:D
oh wow
ooo
it made me say hi. cool!
Congratulations i now wasted a GPT-4 message 😭
And a cool thing to add to your desktop browser shortcuts
Replace the hi with %s
gave me an internal server error lol
LOL
odd hallucination
https://chat.openai.com/share/4a9a7e65-1354-48d4-81fe-f8596388f073
very cool
you checked if we can attach files too?
i want macro on phone to post image direct into gpt4
Nah bc that's not in the URL
did you get an answer on this
There needs to be an option to open tickets in ChatGPT such that you can input the final version of your code at the end and it can be used as training data (initial prompt, final code output). This would prevent it from training on its own mistakes and make it better overall...
Then I could also track multiple projects with context stored in a memory bubble that can be saved. It would also enable productivity tracking by viewing tickets.
Guys
chat.openai.com now redirects to chatgpt.com
If you're either signed out or sigh out and sign back in
Right!
gemini...
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niice
is there a limit to how much info can be stored in the memory feature of gpt4? If so, how much?
Second question, how long can a chat session be? Can i keep typing in the same one session day after day and will gpt4 be able to recall all conversations from that session?
I don't know if it's suggestive or if it's serious. But it seems to me that ChatGPT 4 has been running MUCH FASTER since about yesterday?
still nothing , teams still the last members in line of new feature even though we must be in front
they should add open search full protocol in the future I think
llama 3 jbs are better anyway, maybe if its 4
Maybe if you’re eager to lose access…
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ahahahahahahahahahahahahah
yo whats the input token limit for gpt4 api?
I don't use the API myself so maybe try asking in #dev-chat to be sure, but I think you're free to pass up to the context limit of the model as input on the API
depends on which version u use
Did anyone else loose darkmode as an option for the web client?
It's still appearing for me as an option next to Theme in settings https://chat.openai.com/#settings
anyone got gpt teams plan? is it worth it? I am starting to run into the limit a lot. My partner wants to use chatgpt too so might be worth getting.
I'm getting it
i have it
it is awesome. no regrets
i used to fear hitting the cap, and psychologically was holding me back
now i spam prompts hard and if i do hit the limit, its usually lunch time anyway
working on this project and the achilles heel after all my efforts is anthropics low token per minute limit
but gpt4 turbo is like 40x more expensive than haiku which does the same thing for my use-case
to prompt chatgpt you must be clear. to get clear answers on discord you must use the correct channel
this channel is not for haiku and api
🤓 "ughh use the correct channel" shut up dork
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**Practice kindness and positive regard. Harassment, hate speech (such as sexism, racism, or homophobia), or other malicious conduct will not be tolerated. Maintain a respectful and positive environment.
happy to hear that.
and now when im not at the keyboard i make more use of chatgpt-voice, which is like living in the future
i even bought a bluetooth headset specifically to summon chatgpt away from my phone
:O what headphones if i can ask :) ?
Oladance OWS Pro Open Ear Bluetooth Headphones
but now that the Bose open ear ear lobe clips exist, i'd consider those
How to initiate conversation via Bluetooth headset, is there any specific configuration on the chatgpt app?
i have macrodroid to launch chatgpt app in various ways
they had rumoured months ago that chatgpt voice would have google assistant mode, which led me to down this path.
so while waiting i just configured a bunch of macros to launch tts and voice
Ha, remember back in the January press release for the 'Team' accounts where they said "Early access to new features and improvements"? LOL as memory is only available to Plus so far.
just use papr memory gpt its better => https://chatgpt.com/g/g-KDTLacn4M-papr-memory
(unsure about privacy policy)
Any updates on GPT's cutoff date for knowledge?
but it still uses gpt4, no?
Hey! Plugins have been replaced by GPTs: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8988022-winding-down-the-chatgpt-plugins-beta
You can browse GPTs at https://chat.openai.com/gpts
thank you!
chatgpt plus has been almost flawless for me
I think my chats get too long and it freaks out.
hmmm... i keep seeing "hmmm.. something seems to have gone wrong." in one of my convos -- i've seen that before, once or twice, but now i am getting it 10x....
yeah I can't even use them anymore.
One of the chats I had going for a good while (since the start of this project) broke after the domain update.. It's stuck on "Hmm something seems to have gone wrong" and when I click regenerate, it gets stuck again. Anyone else experience something similar?
Oh yeah, that's literally what we are talking about lol
yes, this very moment
Yeah even new chats keep doing it
Frustrating, I know I shouldn't rely on the chat history but it's way easier to ask ChatGPT in the context of what it already knows about my app (everything, basically)
They say they're "operational" on the service status but there's no way, something is still messed up
Esp if it's happening with new chats as well
I just made a custom gpt with most of the information but it doesn't work if I'm in the middle of doing logic so i have to start over again and then the next one crashes
i think it's too many images and uploads
right, so it's occurring in all my collaborations -- i'll try again later, something is definitely down somewhere
good point
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how’s it differ from the standard memory system? I asked it but the answer was a but vague
it had been available since last year. and is an option for teams sub users waiting for the official feature
ah, but it essentially works exactly the same?
too bad i can’t use it with copilot.
yeah from what i know
for simple memory stuff is okay. ultimately its best to just setup an integration like zapier + notion. but that costs money (unless you generate the notion api calls yourself)
but technically doesn’t this require money as well since it runs on gpt4?
Ooo how do I find out about that
LMFAO bro chatgpt straight up sent me a tutorial to a website on how to do it, rather than doing it itself
web search for zapier gpt with notion
i got it configured to load entries into a database. so when i am finished with a chat i can just get it to summarise progress
works most of the time, sometimes it puts the entry in the wrong place and i gotta move it
yeah sure. i mean in addition to
i assume everyone is buying chatgpt sub because its the best deal in town
ah
honestly my favorite feature of chagpt is that i can converse with it via speech without having to physically send messages. Just a straight up voice conversation.
yeah the voice chat makes it more scifi than it already is
is like we got a real life hal9000/jarvis/her and nobody is raving about it
can’t wait until i can have it tall like a pirate..from space! If it had something like voicelab natural voices and it could learn inflections, it would make the conversation even more lively.
Hilarious discussion with ChatGPT v4 when it didn't create JSON correctly according to JSON schema:
To this point, the GPT simply botched processing. I asked "Do not regenerate the data. I want to understand why you processed that in the way that you did so that we can modify the schema."
GPT responded with several paragraphs to explain how the schema should be better documented and that examples would help, but in summary, the schema is fine. Then ...
User
Is that just a long way of avoiding the fact that you just screwed up? 🙂
ChatGPT
Yup, you got me! That was indeed a straightforward mistake on my part. Thanks for catching that! We can just chalk it up to human error—well, virtual assistant error in this case. Let's keep the focus on getting things right moving forward.
🤣
On one hand, I enjoyed this experience. On the other hand, I'm really tired of babysitting GPTv4, catching errors for it, and joking with it about it's incompetence over the last several months. I seriously look forward to the next major updates.
convos that were throwing that "hmm...." error message earlier today now appear to be working for me, whew
seems to be working for me now, you might try again
I’ll check it out, thanks!
how much can be stored in the memory for GPT4? I built a long story with ChatGPT and asked to store it in memory, but when I go to look at my memory, it shows only a summary of the story.
In the past few days, I've felt that GPT-4 has become faster. Have you noticed any difference?
Anyone else hitting a 503 issue?
Mines just a blank page now with the text bar at the bottom, no errors though
Nothings loading
yeah, I hit a 503 then got the same as you on refresh
mines back now but its responding letter by letter lol
It appears that chatgpt has gotten a long awaited update. You can change gpt 4 to gpt 3.5 and back. This back change is huge. Previously, if you changed to 3.5 you could not return, but now you can.
chatgpt 4 is llagged all day for me. IS anyone else experiencing this
It has been lagging a little bit for me as well here and there
but most importantly, I just checked it now after not using it for about two hours, and it seems that there is a chunk of messages that I sent it in one session that have mysteriously disappeared. The session is still there and populated with older messages, but it is missing messages from my last encounter with it two hours ago. But oddly enough, it saved in memory something I had told it to save during those messages.
„Your German sentence is almost correct! Here's a corrected version:
"Voraussichtlich in Tokyo, da ist die Sprachschule, die ich besuchen werde."
Just be aware that the use of "da" might not be necessary depending on the context, but it's still grammatically correct. And remember, no emojis in German!“
Lmao what why would no emojis be used in german
good day, I have a reactive problem with GPT refusing to fulfill commands and giving them completely differently and when I write to him that it shouldn't be given that way, he repeats it and doesn't want to obey the command and when I write that he shouldn't give it like this, he gives it even though it has a clearly written CONDITION that he can't do it ignores the condition a He got a few words that mentioned that he didn't fulfill the assignment, so he started randomly generating words and even wrote something that he didn't have, something completely different than what was assigned
and you don't know what GPT 3.5 is, he doesn't quite understand what I want,
GPT-3.5 isn't the smartest model you may try to check if GPT-4 can understand it well or use diff model but yea gpt3.5 sometimes don't understand its just model problem :)
lifor GPT to not understand the 600 limit is a bit stupid, isn't it?
Transformers are very bad at counting :/
I can't access my settings. Anyone else?
even GPT-4 would have problems with counting
5+ yes 😄
sometimes I forget that I can't count, it's very difficult to calculate the first 1 and 2 classes , template (5+5)
You can’t expect a “Language Model” to be super accurate with counting
It is a Large Language model and not a LMM
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Dang, GPT-4 seems to have a lesser case of alzheimers today, it remembers way more and way further back into our chat, this is pretty pleasant.
Just overall more coherent and intelligent sounding
Lots of errors recently it doesnt even respond half the time i have to click on another chat then go back to the one im on then reput ijn the same prompt and half the time when i ask the whats the diffence btween the two words for eampe a pit and a mine it said they were the same thing in some contexts but ihad to point out that they are not the same it looked at the meanigns of the two words by mistake and not the definitions.
anyone use microsoft copilot? why is it so terrible at understanding what youre asking? chatgpt is great at understanding prompts, but copilot often answers a completely different question or just gives information loosely relevant to what you asked. If theyre both the same model why is this the case?
The copilot use different models and switch based on your prompt or more like balanced, creative or Precise.
i have it on creative gpt4-turbo, but its response quality is noticably worse than just gpt4 on openai's chatgpt
and it just doesnt understand basic things I ask
Free version is very quietly nerfed, pro is better but still an older model
Yeah, do you have access to Microsoft 365 Plan
ChatGPT Plus is also GPT-4 Turbo
Copilot and Copilot Pro uses fine tuned 1106
ChatGPT 4 is 0409
wait really? and they just dont label it as gpt4 turbo?
Yeah
why not??
Difference is meaningless
ChatGPT 3.5 is 3.5 Turbo
But it wasn't labeled as turbo either
Only time it was labeled as turbo was when ChatGPT Plus first launched and 3.5 Turbo was the model you got access to with Plus
here let me give an example of the stupid response from copilot for a question I just asked now. I asked if murder is forbidden in hinduism, and it starts talking about capital punishment 🤦♂️
how do I send an image? maybe you will understand what I mean when you see for yourself.
hold on ill jsut copy paste the question and prompt
You
is murder forbidden in hinduism?
Copilot
In Hinduism, the concept of ahimsa (non-violence) plays a significant role. While there is no official Hindu stance specifically on capital punishment, the religion opposes killing, violence, and revenge. Let’s explore further:
Difference Between Sin and Crime:
Hinduism distinguishes between crimes and sins. Crimes should be punished, but sins are to be expiated.
Stealing, for example, is both a crime and a sin, whereas neglect of duties by a Vedic student is a sin but not a crime.
A sin becomes a crime if it has social repercussions and affects the solidarity of the social system1.
Objective of Punishments:
The ancient dharmaśāstras recognize equality before the law. No person who committed a crime was exempt from punishment.
Punishments aimed to protect society from criminals and deter potential wrongdoers.
The primary objective was to maintain social order and prevent harm to others
yes
it briefly touches on my question and then just completely moves on to another somewhat relevant topic
best models for code completion are instruct not chat.
also it is potentially dynamic switching between 4 and 3.5.
this is microsoft copilot on bing without the dynamic stuff. i have it set to gpt4 turbo
oh wait you aren't talking github copilot
nope, ms copilot on bing
Bing sucks. that's why I mute the channels that discuss it.
you bypassing my mute filters
😂 my bad bro yea this is garbage
you aren't cool
then why is my name kool
name doesn't check out
nuh uh, does too
why is your name drinko if ive never seen you drink anything?
you con artist
I drink chatgpt daily
yeah well i bet Sammy A. didnt give YOU early access to gpt5
maybe I am chatgpt5
got me there
if I drink enough kool-aid it's the same thing
so i walked my fish yesterday and i snapped a photo of a sign and gpt cant even look at the image, wth.
Does anyone know why this happens?
you did what sorry
Snapped an image of a city street sign and gpt couldn’t read it something about usage policy and privacy
no i meant the part at the start...
I walked my fish?
Got him on a leash he’s saltwater only so sometimes take out for a walk? My tank isn’t that big and the sea is quite big
Cheaper alternatives rather than spending thousands of dollars on a huge tank?
I think you would have done the same
It’s a hind fish
Bro I am kidding 😎, no gpt issues or walking any fish, chat just seemed dead or inactive so I thought I’d try to reboot it

Wassup, the gpt's store are available in France, if i create a gpt's, can i make money with this or not for the moment ?
I sent chat gpt a picture of Morgan freeman and told it to make me a cartoon picture of him and it made a pic of a monkey
Depends on how heavily used it is
They’ll mail you if it is
Lolol
😂
😭 I wish I was joking too
i remember when google got in trouble for auto classifying pictures in peoples google photos... similar situation @zinc valley
Michael Marconi, a Google spokesman, said Google had prevented its photo app from labeling anything as a monkey or ape because it decided
oh dear
smart move on Google's part
with freckles I presume?
Sorry Guy 🙈 isn't really funny... But, so yeah, it is funny. Instantly a little bit.
i think some of the phrases and words you use are typically western concepts and or phrasing and not actually related to Asain religions. The main group of people accessing and training data used is western nations. I think questions should be somewhat simple for areas outside of the training. Or played to the strengths of the training?
For example I don't even know what the problem is with the answer without someone pointing it out.
can chatgpt plus account be used in two computers at same time?
Yes
I think so
2 queries at the same time? Not sure.
yessir
me and my father are sharing a Pro account
the only downside is that you can't use Memory
as it'll remember details from both of you and will be unable to discern one from the other
oh thanks, but I think we can always open a new chat with empty memory, right?
yeah you can disable memory
hello, anyone having issues with chat gpt this past week?
I am constantly getting errors when generating responses
i ask about murder and it confused it with government execution
so you wanted to know some spiritual aspects of that? im not sure
In Bible teachings, murder has both the spiritual and civil consiquence. I assume the civil aspects are even more prominent in other religions if they dont have any clear defined teachings on the spiritual consequences.
Unless you know what it should have said?
I'd direct gpt make distinction between civl and spiritual teachings.
I asked this:
"Curious someone else brought a question up to me.
I'm unfamiliar with where Hinduism originates what set of writings and or traditions.
The question relates to the spiritual teachings that encompass a scenario of murder. And if there's a distinction in Hinduism teachings about that crime, between spiritual and civil concepts? Or to what degree.
GPT 3 ( I shorted the reply because it was long )
Hinduism is one of the world's oldest religions, with roots going back thousands of years. It's not founded by a single person or based on a single set of teachings, but rather it has evolved over time through a combination of philosophical texts, cultural practices, and oral traditions.
In terms of distinctions between spiritual and civil concepts, Hinduism does recognize the difference between spiritual laws (dharma) and civil laws (vyavahara). Dharma encompasses not only religious duties but also ethical and moral responsibilities. While civil laws may dictate the consequences of actions like murder in the societal context, spiritual teachings provide a broader perspective on karma (the law of cause and effect) and the consequences of one's actions on the soul's journey.
Ultimately, Hinduism teaches individuals to strive for spiritual growth and enlightenment while also fulfilling their societal and ethical obligations, including refraining from violence and harm to others. However, interpretations and practices may vary among different sects and communities within Hinduism.
Its been a steady decline in gpt 4 for a while now.
So much so, I've subbed to Claude Opus 3 from Anthropic. I find much better.
I cancled my sub to gpt 4 for the time being, and may return to it later.
But the expanded context window for way more characters in Opus 3 is so much more freeing that I cant see why I'd return to GPT 4 anytime soon.
anyone have problem with chatGPT4 or i am alone ? it is so slow now.
hi
since when is it chatgpt.com?
I remember going on the site chat.openai.com/chat
since a few days ago
and now you can even autoprompt queries if you pass ?model=gpt-4&q=ilovedrinko
automation ftw
Something changed with chatgpt over the last few days. I left my chat and came back to it and it's constantly making mistakes and oversight
I suppose starting a new conversation should fix this?
Eh, I've had the same issue Alex and sometimes starting a new convo will fix it
What should I do when I get the comment "This content may violate our terms of use"? I do not know where to get help to resolve this misunderstanding and get my simulation back on track (GPT Builder).
o(pen)ai - d(eep)m(ind) = 1🤪🤪
Man I think the memory between chats is one of the more useful functions that openAI added. Makes things a lot more seamless day to day. 🙂
I noticed that chatgpt will forget my custom instructions often. Seems to happen to 4.0 significantly more often than 3.5.
My instructions ask to keep its answers short, talk in a bit of a street lingo, and refer to me by certain names (like broseph, dumbass, etc).
3.5 will lose it sometimes but it will regain its footing if I say something myself that sounds “street-ish”.
On the other hand, 4.0 seems to forget almost instantaneously. it’s as if it’s ignoring the custom instructions.
4.0 even saved that information in the memory notes and it still ignores it.
Anyone know why the google sheets funtion isn't working? It keeps giving me a "Sorry that page doesn't exist" Error message
can someone help me improve my chatgpt-dalle prompt?
make a prompt for the DALL-E image generator. the prompt should be about cartoony UI/UX, the UI/UX should have an easy-to-use layout and a fun, simple design. please think of everything and plan out the ENTIRE design in the prompt. please do not say anything except the prompt. please keep it as short as possible and keep every IMPORTANT detail.
please DO NOT talk, at all. the only thing that you should say is the prompt. please restrict from using things like characters, effects, animations, and speech bubbles and only focus on the UI/UX itself. add to the prompt these words for better outputs: "Beautiful, Figma, HQ, 4K, clean UI/UX" and add some colors(only the color's name) to the prompt to act like a color palette.
please make a simple design and down go overboard with every detail and a simple layout that's useful and not too dense.
please keep the prompt detailed at around 3 sentences.
make sure to have a clear white background to see the UI more easily.
the UI/UX should be fun and original and have an out-of-the-box concept while still meeting all the other requirements.
the UI/UX should not include a screen like a phone or a computer, just the pure UI
please make a prompt about: "a discord codes UI: a codes UI is a UI where you enter a code to receive rewards like money"
why are you prompting when you can build a MyGPT specifically for your needs, Also GPT - 4 is a better prompter than most users in here, so you'd be better off asking GPT.
api
and maybe i wanna use claude
API dosent change my answer.