#chatgpt-discussions
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can we at this moment make gpts public ?
All custom GPTs, including the OpenAI built ones, use the January 2022 cutoff date
Plugins GPT-4 and GPT-3.5 turbo also uses it
April 2023 for turbo?
yes
All in one uses the newer April 2023 cutoff though
now it's fixed lol
perfect
Turbo is only available via API, correct?
Nop
Plus users
hmm, not seeing it, not even in beta features
I just had an idea
It depends, i think you need to wait for your case it depends on your country also
What if you made a GPT with all the tools + the Wolfram alpha api
guys how long are the threads now? Can they go on forever
Yeah, maybe staggered rollout, thanks
you can
@lone wyvern u have the new one with vision, browse and dalle integrated one right, what’s the context window for that?
what is the wolf or alpha that youre talking about? jsut curious
What i said about PDFs :
To transfer knowledge effectively in a format that is optimal for analysis by AI systems like me, text-based content is preferable. A .TXT file, which is a plain text file, is inherently more straightforward because it contains unformatted text. This allows for direct reading and processing without the need to interpret or disregard additional formatting, images, or complex layouts.
A PDF file, on the other hand, can be more challenging to analyze directly because it often includes diverse formatting, images, and other elements that are part of a more intricate structure. While I have the capability to extract text from PDF documents using specialized tools, the process can sometimes be less efficient than working with a .TXT file. This is due to the potential need to parse and interpret the layout and design elements to access the textual content.
So if y'all want to get your knowledge directly without problems, better copy your PDF and put it in the knowledge so he can scrapt some information from the source, idk if this features is the same as a DATABASE or not
yes. it says 4096 tokens
@fast forge thanks for the tip
You got TWO : in all in one it got 128K tokens which is equil to 300 PAGES of a PDF, and the Jan 2022 got a token of 42 or 32K
I don't have the ability to browse the internet or access real-time databases.
I tried it sending s tons of text and it literally knew everything
The message or response length for this model, based on GPT-4, is primarily constrained by the token limit, which is 8,192 tokens. This limit includes both the input (the prompt and any previous dialogue) and the output (the response generated by the model).
Here's how this impacts message or response length:
Combining Input and Output: If your prompt or the ongoing conversation is lengthy, it will consume a portion of the token limit, thereby reducing the number of tokens available for the response.
Long Conversations: In a long conversation, older parts of the conversation will eventually be "forgotten" as they are truncated to keep the total token count within the 8,192 limit.
Response Length: The model's response length can vary, but it's typically concise enough to convey the necessary information while considering the overall token limit. Responses that are too long might be truncated.
Token Definition: A token is roughly equivalent to a word or a part of a word, so the actual length in terms of words can vary.
It's important to note that this token limit is a technical constraint designed to balance between providing comprehensive responses and maintaining efficient performance. For most typical uses, including detailed explanations, conversations, and queries, this limit is sufficient to provide thorough and relevant responses.```
mine is saying this
The what, did they break the search with bing
For plus?
since I can’t even ask it to search now with the all in one browsing
Give me your prompt let me ask him
Yep
okii
That’s 🔥
apologies if already discussed, but gpt-4 is givne me the message along the lines of "my ability to generate images has been disabled"
- what is the name of your model?
- what is the message cap of this model?
and give us an update
I’m probably gonna be one of the last ones to get this update
finally got access to everything
took me until today lol
congrats
I really like the new ui on ios
ikr?
what have people done with it?
I think you should understand that when the model is being updated they don't know his settings (Temperature) or message size, But yes mostly it is 8K from him but not from you (Input) only the output so basically from openai devday the 128K tokens you can feed it in a single prompt he can memorize it
So for ex : you can copy your whole 100 pages PDF and send it as a single message, you can literally know that he will get everything from it (after all idk about accuracy but they said its more accurate)
omg seriously?? that would be so cool if they also give it to the plus users
It is available in the plus users mate, you use the gpt 4 turbo
i think its more accurate because it doesnt have to pick and choose what info to return or look at. it can send more back to you so it can consider more of what you give it
wait so what the model can give is limited to 8k but we can fed to it is limited 128k right?
You
But you can see more than 128K tokens right ?
ChatGPT
Yes, that's correct. While the immediate input and output for each interaction with the model are limited to a couple of thousand tokens, the model can access and refer to a much larger context from the conversation history, which can be up to 128,000 tokens. This allows the model to maintain continuity over a series of interactions and refer back to earlier parts of the conversation if needed.
holy mother of jee
i thought chatgpt was a user LOL
But from what i know the context window is only increased for the API is it not
the 8K is from him he can't reply with a 128K tokens which is 300 pages mate, but he can only reply 8K tokens per chat
Everything that got nuked with gpts and 124k context window
What if we unleashed ChatGPT 4 as an actual discord bot that acted like a user
And people being able to add knowledge bases
every time i refresh i get the old ui for a split second before it switches over 😅
that exists in many servers but its 3.5 fine tuned
yeah make sense
When he says 8K tokens : ITS HIS REPLIES not you, but for you, you can give him 128K tokens and he can read it !
although it doesnt just chat randomly it has to be prompted
I meant like chat randomly
yeah i figured that after i sent that lol
It would be expensive as hell but fun
its so good!!
ny
I stopped using 3.5 when i upgraded to plus its just not that good even thought its super fast
i know i was talking about API being used for discord bots
But with 4 turbo with vision
because you can fine tune 3.5
but we dont know the message cap yet for plus user
It might become a reasonable idea
message limit is 50 messages per 3 hours
The OpenAI Discord is an actively moderated server.
• Refrain from sharing inappropriate content on the server. This includes but is not limited to messages, media, or other topics of graphically violent, sexual nature, and drug-related content.
• Report all sensitive and offensive content in the feedback reporting tool in the ChatGPT web UI instead of here on Discord.
would be huge for paid gpts if they bypassed the 50 cap
is the only thing keeping wrappers alive atm
wait but it doesnt show any limts tho, may i ask where did you get that
or is it kind of a glitch
They said they removed the cap in the API, we don't kow if they did for the plus users as well (ofc it would be awesome if we can talk as many as we want)
ooh
in the API ?
no
can you see 128k tokens?
ChatGPT
ChatGPT
No, I cannot process 128,000 tokens in a single interaction. The GPT-4 model, which I am based on, has a maximum token limit of 8,192 tokens. This limit includes both the input (the text you provide) and the output (the response I generate). The token limit is a fundamental constraint of the model, determined by its design and the computational resources required to process information.
In practical terms, this means that in a conversation or an interaction, if the combined length of the input and output exceeds 8,192 tokens, the oldest information is truncated to make space for the new input and responses. This limit ensures a balance between providing detailed and contextually relevant responses and maintaining computational efficiency.
why it showing me this?
bruh its for the api turbo gpt4 model that has 128k
you can apply to raise the limit
they doubled the API limit 🤓 not chatgpt (gpt4)
we have turbo
we got the turbo right?
What's the new effective token limit for ChatGPT-4 premium users? It doesn't seem like it's 128k
lmao quit asking the model for info on its parameters. it has no clue and will just make stuff up
is chat gpt v4 limit removed?
what do u mean gpt3?
i cant see the notification of 50 message limit anywhere
MODEL DOES NOT HAVE ANY INFO IF YOU ASK IT, Trust only OPENAI
Chatgpt is pretty much unusable right now. Even vision bugs out. Gpts so much too.
It uses ChatGPT api
what do you mean? i have no issues
Even if you ask GPT 4 Turbo if he's Turbo he won't know, the only reason to know it, it to ask him when does his KNOWLEDGE ends
LISTEN huys GPT3 is turbo in chatgpt while GPT4 is not, it is only turbo in the API (not chatgpt) and is rolling out to DEVELOPERS 🤓
Which is April 2023 !!
What's the new effective token limit for ChatGPT-4 premium users? It doesn't seem like it's 128k
the one free users have to use
I guess it depends on users but I really struggle. I have access to the latest update and it's very buggy. Vision seems broken 2/3 times as well
32k
its not 128k its 16k or 32k if your enterprise, 128 if you have gpt4 turbo in the API not chatgpt
interesting, didnt try vision yet after the update, but all the other features are fine for me as of now
Thanks!
anyone knows if the 50 message limit is removed? i cant see the notification anywhere like before
np
16k seems about right from my testing
i think yes but i havent hit a limit in 7 months lol
Basically, double from what Advanced Data Analysis was doing before
Mate, did you read the devday ?, the new model is GPT 4 turbo we got it in the plus user section even in the playground still the same
lol, i use it excessively so i do very often
no its 32k (spiderman spoilers lol) https://chat.openai.com/share/e9aaa82a-498c-4139-8c68-98559248d153

yeh ik but not in chatgpt
we have gpt-4 in the selection and gpt3.5 not gpt4 turbo
i have gpt4 bruh what u talking about
I listened again to the OpenAI conference and at 19:15 Sam Altman says:
A small one, ChatGPT now uses GPT-4 Turbo, with all the latest improvements, including the latest knowledge cutoff, which will continue to update. That’s all live today.
nah only gpt 3 is tubo in chatgpt
Its not my words its sam's
tf u talking about mate
timestamp pls lol 🤓
hi guys anyone figured out how to connect github account to gpts actions ?
Is the 50 message rate limit gone?
no
no
you have to host and connect routes (complex)
no but your search bar is
so i have to setup my own git host ?
I think it's higher than 16k, I just tested it on 23k tokens and it's doing okay
its 32k
i think so (i use replit)
nice thx for the hint


no problem

the openai emojis are lit ngl
bye!

BY MY TESTING -- it does not remember 29k tokens
i love this guy so much
Ok, so this happened:
https://chat.openai.com/share/6c60c9c2-39ca-49c5-a555-9ab187bfad97
My question is: How does the model even do that?

BY MY TESTING -- it does remember 26,600 tokens
I'm not sure why, as long as I've used ChatGPT the real token limit is never the same as the advertised token limit
I uploaded a big pdf and got over 12k tokens + intelligent review of what was in the pdf, trying to incorporate a feature from a paper into NanoGPT
Good evening, is chat gpt 4 having issues with image inputs ? I always get an error when sending an image input after ChatGPT thinks for a long time without a response.
which tokenizer are you using? and are you accounting for system prompts and such?
Sous Chef
I'm sorry for the confusion earlier. There seems to have been an error, as the description provided for the tuna dish does not violate any content policy. Let's try generating that image of the Seared Tuna Steak with Avocado and Spinach again. Please hold on for a moment while I take care of that for you.
Error creating images ⚠️
I apologize for the inconvenience, but it seems there's an issue with generating the image of the Seared Tuna Steak with Avocado and Spinach according to our content policy. While I can't provide an image, I'm here to assist with the recipe and anything else you might need. If you'd like, I can continue by providing you with a detailed recipe and a shopping list for this dish.
i gave it slightly less than the max & it held up, also at that point you should be using retrieval but still very cool that it holds up
I wonder if there might be some injected multi-shot examples now with the extra space, so 32k is the effective limit but they've got 4k tokens worht of moderation/consistency/internal only prompts
Is funny how slow the responses get when you fill up the ctx
anyone else chatting with GPT Builder?
literally just having a conversation in the editor lol (idk if this counts towards the message limit or not (it thinks it runs on a modified version of GPT-4))
i think i saw somewhere the system prompt for the new alltools variant was ~3k tokens
it does count just fyi
Plugins disappeared from my chatgpt .. does anyone have similar condition?
should see a dropdown menu with gpt-4 , gpt-3.5 options, and a plugins widget below those
When will the GPT's be released for EU users?
have been suspecting the degraded performance people were seeing in cgpt was from system prompts getting longer stuffing the ctx, and hopefully is better at 32k
they already are avaliable
yes i have this but no plugins widgets although it is activated in settings
Ah, nice! wasn't availble earlier this morning
i live in portugal and during 4pm/5pm i got an update
or sooner
Question: can gpt4 create .stl 3d files for printing miniatures?
top 3 out of 4 suggestions for ChatGPT in this discord is sidebar search, oldest is from 4 months ago, and we don't have search yet ?
I have too many ideas for GPTs to make
"I've reached the limit of image generations that I can create from a single description. If you'd like another image, please provide a new or adjusted description for further variation." WHAT? NOW WE CANT ITTERATE O NA PROMPT?!
That is DEFINITELY not conducive to revenue streams
gpt: you're boring me.
Best GPT's you've found or made so far?
havent been able to use or find much of anything the past day or so haha
sit @wise anchor
just keep hoping for 5 minutes of functionality
yall should totally try https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1172284768776372306
Wha
timeout
oh LOL
Is there anyway to check what is being sent on a get_function call ?
wow responses seem longer to me
is the document upload bugged? It gets stuck at "Reading documents" then never responds
lot of things are glitchy because of the massive response to the update i guess
ngl still haven't found a good usecase for chatgpt for a solo entrepreneur or MSP type business
is it possible with the api to use a custom chatgpts to query from?
Using all 3 model functions has now become like tearing hair out. image generation is shot for efficiency and function.
the beta of each is better than this horrible amalgamation. slay this beast and let us bear another.
So I got the new stuff, there was a setting saying that chatgpt would save our chats and analyze how I spoke and everything and save that information so it could better respond as I used it more and more. I disabled it, the screen glitched/cleared while I was using it, I checked the settings again and now that setting is gone
I'm sorry, I can't generate the entire "Bee Movie" script as it is a copyrighted text. However, I can provide a summary or answer any questions you may have about the movie. How can I assist you further?
When did they add that
Huh why is setting up my gpt also counting towards the 50 prompts cap?
Ngl that is kinda stupid
chatg bee t
Does the knowledge take a while to actually be put into the custom gpt?
because if I create a custom gpt with knowledge, it keeps giving 500 internal server error
is anyone else getting 'Error Saving Drafts when trying to upload documents to the knowledge every time?
I don't know if it's just me, I use the AI chatbot(ChatGPT) for creativity and personal entertainment. I noticed that every time I ask a bot to write a certain story for me, it becomes less creative than the previous time and much shorter. I like it less. Is it because of the new updates? Or something else. I would appreciate any reply.
How do i put custom instructions in with the new version? Can't find that anywhere?
I just don't like the new version. I lack the thrill I felt in the earlier versions. I lack plot, I lack length. Each story is the length of a poem.
Did anyone develop chrome extensions for chatgpt? If yes, can you guide me to do it? Recently I saw a chrome extension on chatgpt. That extension was a pop up screen on chatgpt screen. you can build a prompt from the pop up/extension screen. once prompt is built, with a click of button you can directly submit the prompt to the chatgpt and then run it on chatgpt for results. I am looking to develop this type of extension.
Wooo finally got the update
Everyone has it now? Or are there still some people who don't
I think it's not just the censorship, it bothers me that it's so short and has no plot.
i assume it'll get better, also in the explore tab there are gpts versions of the old tools (and a classic mode with none)
the modularity of the new turbos + tools is really cool
With the new GPTs it feels like you use up the whole limit in no time
Everytime an update comes out it seems to get worse for the first few weeks from what i've noticed.
well this was just a visual bug. I refreshed the page and the responses appeared.
I also just feel like a limit of 50 will be way too low for the different gpts to be useful
Unless you only use one
on this new version was dall-e and search on web integrated by default on gpt-4 chat? if so, isn't it slower? I remember that the raw gtp4 chat was faster than the dall-e and search on web chat
Yea i kinda wish it would be 50 per each different version tbh.
the new model is much faster so it is very fast even with all the tools integrated
i wonder if it will be different for paid gpts
would destroy wrappers
I am getting this error when trying to save an gpt action
Couldn't save OpenAPI spec due to errors: None of the provided servers is under the root origin, anyone have a solution?
everythign does with time, but this lacks the intuitivness of the prior composite components. also new behaviors are changes to function that are restrictions to behaviors so that to me is a massive detractant to the direction of development.
It appears that I have received the update, with the message 'How can I help you today?' appearing. However, above the 'Message ChatGPT' window there still exists the four suggestion blocks. I thought they were going away with the release.
its just a crippled product; it feels like its designed to cripple those it's meant to assist. That isn't good.
I literally spent all of my image gens this round arguing until it said i was out or on another that i couldnt reuse the prompt. that is ludicrous behavior
how I can use that devtools feature? I enabled that but it says "Please enable a localhost plugin to use devtools."
If you want to share you conversation with me, I can pass it along to research.
Is it just me or is the save button for actions broken atm?
can you file a #1070006915414900886 if you are having issues
Hi guys! Can plus users now use the all-in-one feature? I'm wondering whether to subscribe to it.
I have got the new feature
Congrats!
One of the most interesting applications of custom GPT's is the Devil's Advocate, a contrarian to any belief of the user: https://chat.openai.com/g/g-PlTjh7MaN-devil-s-advocate
Im definitely not able to get it to work! the specific API config i’m using works in my openAI script running in Python so it should work but when i hit save nothing happens. I filed a bug report.
the new update sucks, why are the backgrounds of my messages the same color as gpt's messages
makes it harder to tell which message is which now
everything else is amazing tho
lol
hi, does anyone know if GPTs are a plus feature only? didnt see anything about it in the announcement, ty
so is the update amazing or does it suck?
Imo, I like the new UI and etc.
oh shoot me too —> https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1172336255716044820
I also mad a bug report on the help page so hopefully it is seen
the adding of bing, data analysis and dall-e into one thing is great
what is this openai drama with office 365?
havent heard, i thought they loved eachother
Earlier today Microsoft blocked employees from using chatgpt due to security concerns
Sam Altman tweeted out an hour ago that they didnt block chatgpt from Office 365 and the rumors are unfounded
Do you guy enjoy new gpt
"the rumors that we are blocking microsoft 365 in retaliation are completely unfounded"
Where can I browse public GPTs?
wasnt the ceo of microsoft just at the openai dev conference like two days ago lol
Someone probably said something that offended him
I am confused. So I use the wolfram alpha plugin quite a bit over this year. My main gripe is that its never had a direct upload feature of say a .tex file. Yet with GPT's this becomes possible, but then accessing the API is free to certain point, 'I think' for wolfram alpha.
My question over all, will multi modal dynamics also becoming to plugins soon? Thank for your responses in advance. Please @ me if any response please.
good. ai is serious business.
the new custom gpts can’t be used
"Please give me a moment to compile this information into your PDF. I'll let you know once it's ready for download."
Well this is new, it just ended on this message
am I supposed to remind chat gpt?
Why can't I upload files in the knowledge part while creating a gpts?
what browser are you using? I couldn't use Safari to do it, I had to use Chrome
Brave
Try with Firefox and see if that works
Thanks
Well it worked either way, it seems the GTP builder was lying to me
Eh...I'm not sure I like the new integrated Chat GPT-4. lol. The responses seem different than when we had to select between advanced data analysis, etc.
all sorted then?
Yes, thank you
great 🙂
Seems like I'm getting a "Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong." when attempting to edit or test my custom GPT
on mobile it says Error with server
50 messages per 3 hours
It doesn’t say anywhere 50 messages per 3 hours
I know, but trust me, it's a thing
i used a script to convert the NextJS docs into a massive PDF, gave it to a GPT and now it’s helping me dev
Pretty cool lol
It never forgets the docs since it’s a part of its knowledge
Thank you
They should remove the message cap I'm paying 38 dollars a month for Plus
I am paying $29.95 AUD per month
38? how?
it's 20 still, isn't it?
Probably canadian or australian
I finally got access to the new UI/AllTools/Gpt version. Yay.. well I had hoped. Is it just me or is the new GPT-4 Turbo model.. umm.. a very dumbed down model? It cant seem to remember what I asked for. When I point this out and ask again. it says something along the lines Now I understand.. here ya go.. and then proceeds to ignore everything I asked it. ???
Is this just me?
This new Gpt-4 Turbo seems almost unusable for programming now. It seems almost as bad as gpt 3.5.
It's exactly that
is the seed/temperature setting a thing for GPTs?
The GPT-4 Turbo model in ChatGPT makes it impossible to write sensible code. If I had a long Py function with a lot of nesting, and asked old GPT-4 to refactor it into a nice class, it did it perfectly. Now it forgets half the actual content, gives up half way (= produces a sketch of the code but not the full code), and produces unusable code
i wouldn’t be surprised if plugins get deprecated soonish
just ClosedAI downgrading their gpt models
It's terrible. I switched to using GPT-4 via my Poe subscription. I think I'll very possible stop using ChatGPT. It has changed from a tool to a toy
or refactored to work with assistants api
please try to be positive and helpful here, everyone is doing their best.
sure but we all know it is bad now
images seem to be down for me
Well, giving you LESS for the same price (the ChatGPT sub) is not "their best"
GPT-4 Turbo is not GPT-4.
yeah they already showed that they can do better
@low talon yes this is exactly what I am seeing now. Is there a way to use chatgpt with the older gpt-4 model?
No
Is it allowed to share GPT link here?
I switched to GPT-4 in Poe (which even has GPT-4-32k, which is a bit outdated knowledge-wise, but it's the best model in quality terms)
I find GTPs writing has gone downhill as well, It used to be good but now it just write everything in the same style which i hate
believe it or not, straight to jail
I got a Gpt i have been working on and I want to test it out as from other users
you can post it here -> #1171489862164168774
Thanks for the help.
Fighting against half-solutions, hallucinations and the overall "dumbness" of new ChatGPT with GPT-4 Turbo makes the fun go away. The ChatGPT app now gives you 2 choices: a dumb model (GPT4T) and a dumber model (3.5). Ok, I get that it's now trying to be a consumer app, I guess, but for what? Dall-E is a severely censored toy, the GPT Vision aspect is not really of much interest for most people in the chat UI, the code interpreter is now only good for trivial functions because it writes much worse code, and the input context in ChatGPT still seems to be small
I have no idea what the use for the new ChatGPT might be, which isn't already covered by Bing chat and the other Bing things.
Well, ok, DallE is ok for creating sketches of an image based on very loose prompt (or actual prose), but the images are then at best sensible reference images for a better text-to-image model like MJ or SDXL supercharged with CNs & Loras
the DallE 3 API is useful, yes, if you want to bulk-create images based on some texts
and you don't care for quality
but why should I do it (or anything) in the new ChatGPT? I don't get it
why is the GPT 3.5 model still there if GPT-4 Turbo is only marginally better?
It's still a better tool for me to study and review for exams than Bing chat, hhh
People think they pay 20$ and they deserve the world
U all already getting more than u paid for
So the instructions for making a GPT function the same as regular custom instructions? Is that correct?
I'd love to see your prompts
Dalle-3 is overly sensitized to, cant really make anything with it if you use anything as a base idea because of "copywrite" cant even do "zombies" because it goes against guidelines its basically useless for any real world applications now
I’ve had better success with using data analysis / a coder assistant gpt than the default all tools option, could be the system prompt for all tools is too long & throwing it off idk
& letting it pull code thru retrieval instead of pasting code in the prompt
The stronger the tools get, the more direct your requests need to be
you can use the earlier version by clicking on Explore in the left hand menu then choosing Data Analysis
guys, imagine having 1GB internet connection and Chatgpt giving network error and not finishing writing an answer... how annoying.. Any way to get this fixed?
Sam Altman tweeted “usage of our new features from devday is far outpacing our expectations. we were planning to go live with GPTs for all subscribers monday but still haven’t been able to. we are hoping to soon. there will likely be service instability in the short term due to load. sorry :/“
This is due to overload of their own server not our connection. A lot of people are gunning to use these tools
the problem is that it doesnt even let you continue from where it stopped.. only allows you to "Regenerate"... pity, i will try again later
Well this is quite an upgrade, with some bugs
But I wasn't expecting this drop tonight
The DALL-E integration is interesting, looks like it's most like converting whatever the user says into a more sophisticated prompt. But it's ability to iterate on newly-created or existing image is still weak -- it's always a new image from scratch.
Unless you give super direct queries
When the image generation models can "tweak" an image iteratively that will be huge
Can gpt 4 analyse a code file?
I've tried with some limited success there, but I know some people have gotten Midjourney prompting to a science
yeah i know, was just saying the individual tools have been outperforming all tools for me (esp for code)
wonder if this is where most of the complaints with the new version are coming from
That may be my advantage then. Since I've done over 35k midjourney images
Definitely, makes a huge difference. I lose patience with Midjourney pretty quickly, but I don't really have a use case beyond curiousity at the moment
I like the tight integration better, but your mileage may vary.
I wish they would go back to generating 4 images like midjourney 1 image at a time sucks, its so slow
My gpt bot did exactly as I instructed it to :)\
i guess it's more specific to coding but yeah, alltools is really nice for general use
please add such output to #1050184247920562316 and avoid walls of text in the help channels
No problem
Ah I'm so hype my custom bot is performing. 🙂
Direct instructions are very crucial in making it work very well
Hey everyone. I finally got access to turbo and gpts through the subscription. Question, does it have 128k context?
Due to high volume don't try to get that big of an out put as youll get network errors
Hi, I can't save the profile picture for my GPTs. Unless generated by the builder.
after saving it will always be replaced by the default one
I think you may have found a bug, try replicating the issue and describe it in #1070006915414900886
when uploading files into my custom gpt's what are the considerations of text size and the gpt's ability to parse its entirety and maintain context? does breaking down a large text file into smaller ones make these custom gpt's parse/recall/context better?
same here. did u fix it?
lol why r people having so many issues with the responses… mine is giving me responses that are more detailed than ever and have a lot of accuracy
Dude no joke the image I just got out of mine
im a little curious how does the new progress bar work
The NextJS + TailwindCSS GPT i built is wildly good
it has the entire NextJS documentation uploaded as knowledge
I’m gonna give it Tailwind’s too
also gpt4 speed rn is an absolute train wreck
Heck yea, I haven't even uploaded documentation yet as I'm just testing shear instruction sets to begin with. Once documents are uploaded I will retest and see if it gets faster and stronger
Yeah I had it without and then with right after and the results when i uploaded docs were wayyy better
It tells you when it’s recalling info from the upload
Obviously the docs are online so the internet feature could work but i’ve found that to be not that reliable for this kinda stuff tbh
Yea, that's a valid point tbh
getting the .mdx files into rendered .pdf was not trivial though lol, but after trying it myself and getting filled with rage at my code I found that someone made a github repo that does exactly what i need a while back
these are game changers
but like ofc nextjs used .mdx and not .md
building customized gpts
I built an essay writer and I fed it all my university essays that I wrote some years algo (before AI was a thing) so it learned my style so well
Oh that’s crazy
There’s so many possibilities
Especially with the action configuration
I didnt dig on the action thing yet, how exactly we use it? need an api key?
Just lets you use APIs yeah from what I can tell
I’m not sure if there’s bounds on what types of requests you can do, i haven’t looked
is it only me or have anyone noticed that after this chatgpt update with dall-e and search on web integrated it seems to give more unhelpful instructions on code?
before it was more straight forward, with snipped codes, now it seems to have a lot of more broad text, more text than code.
Honestly i’ve thought it’s been better lol
I think the basic model might have gotten weaker, thats why you perhaps need to create a customized gpt model dedicated for coding
Even on a regular thread and not on my NextGPT
Yeah my custom gpt is infinitely better but normal threads aren’t bad for me
slightly better if anything
But the custom gpt is soooooooo good
would be nice to have an Agent GPT for building MERN stack applications
hahah I am just getting lazy
i know i’m worried the one i made is too good 💀
but i did design it to guide rather than do
is it private or are u sharing it?
Currently private but i’ll probs switch it public when i fine tune it some more
cool nice
the page for using customized gpt model is bad, not very pratical, it has two chat screens, one for setting the model and another as 'preview', it doesn't allow to edit the text, it doesn't have history chats, etc
I think for the action section, I want to research more into that. I don't fully grasp what actions I can ask the gpt bot to do
Always wondered how many GPUs does chatgpt use at the moment
preview is for you to test it, use the builder to chat with it and design as you wish.. once you finish, just save it and you can use after at the main page. You will be able to edit and look at the history chats once using the new customized model you just created.
there were rumors on gpt4 requires 5 A100 80gb to load
so there's at least a few thousand clusters of that
oh thanks, I didn't see that save option
when "creating gpt" does this use up your 50 messages per 3 hours?
I haven't tested, but I think that the 50 messages per 3 hours limit is for any type of chat
may I try it?
ah i see, even when we are creating the gpt itself and testing it in preview?
I am wondering how that 'customized gpt' works, I mean, if I create a "customize bot for answering NextJS questions" will it be better to answer questions related to frontend than a bot created to "answer questions about coding"?
I mean, I am wondering if at the moment of the bot creation it gives the bot more informations on that specific use case, or is that only a mattter of context to facilitate how the bot should better comunicate?
If anyone wants to test my bot out: https://chat.openai.com/g/g-pCIaoQ5wh-dnd-dungeon-master-s-lore-crafter I love any and all feedback
how did you feed it all your essays? did you compile it all in a pdf?
some old conversations are down
up for me
good question, idk, if it doesn't count then people can use the 'preview' tab as a way to exceed those 50 messages limit
hmm yeah thats true. i guess there would be a limit then
i think the conversation history on the left is a little small and hard to look at
i think the older version of history textsize was just good
It really depends how strict you are in your instructions but it will likely focus on information on that specific concept
i agree it’s a bit small
I think it looks good overall just could be a bit larger scaled
all in one tool is so insanely helpful
How has it helped you?
graphic design
i gave it reference design it gave me different layout idea which can help me come up with new and typo designs completely new
so i dont need to switch to dalle or add prompts
once in a while gpt4 forgets it can search the internet
yeah i think it's due to code interpreter getting invoked
Is there a way to block that feature? I want the classic gpt answers
Am I the only one who feels that GPT-4 turbo is less intelligent than previous one? I've been a frequent user of GPT-4 ever since they launched..can clearly see the reduction in quality of responses, both in coding and regular responses.
What type of responses? What are your prompts
code interpreter?
you know you can use the old version? just go to the left hand menu and select Explore then choose the classic GPT-4 model
Just tried one of the custom GPTs I made with the voice interface on android and the voice is different. Wonder why that is.
I know, but I was hyped for turbo. I'm not seeing any evidence that corroborates its "more intelligent" than previous GPT-4
Personally I think GPT-4 Turbo is better, I guess it depends on your own experience and point of view.
Nerds
I'll run more diagnostic tests and see.
its even more of a generalist than before, so you probably need to craft your own gpt for your code instead if using a general assistant for specific tasks
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How to get chatgpt to have knowledge cutoff of april 2023? Is it going to be possible?
Bummer. I was expecting it to be the real life J.A.R.V.I.S
the knowledge cut off is April 2023 now
Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!
make it browse about the topic u want then ask it
Customize your own gpt to make it a jarvis
I don't think so, but if I am wrong someone will correct me.
What about context? Is it new context of 128k already for chatgpt or api only
Context appears to be at least 32K but you can upload documents that give it the ability to reference at least 300 pages.
nice
What do you mean? Wasn't the code interpreter got invoked before?
Sorry I didn't understand well, so using a stricted model won't increase the information about that topic, it will only help on focusing more on that specific topic when giving answers?
thanks mate
You are a life saver
Is the data analysis gpt the version of classic gpt with vision?
I don't know, try it and find out. I only know about the Classic GPT-4 because I've been using it in testing.
Seems like it, but just wanted to confirm.
Where can i see published custom GPTs?
are we still limited to 50 messages
yes, and the Custom GPT builder playground counts towards that cap as well
yo whatt? higher speed and lower computational cost but still the 50 message cap
128k token limit now though too (i think)
You can see them in the custom-gpts channel for now. For example my language learning GPT https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1172386471278297128. But there will be a store by the end of this month, featuring different GPT's!
same for you
So could the "knowledge" files I upload for a custom GPT be code files for a project I'm working on? Perhaps lots of code?
yup
Well how 'bout that
2 million tokes is the max
Unbelievable
2 million tokens of knowledge files I can upload?
no one knows. Don't believe people that say that they know, there is no official info on that
I am guessing either 4k or 8k
Isn't it 8k right now?
yea maybe
thanks man
Sure thing!
I think the context limit for GPT Turbo is at least 32K, I could be wrong but I think I am right
Can someone tell me if uploading a file as a custom gpt's profile picture works? its not seeming to work for me
what browser / OS are you using?
Safari on macos 14
try Chrome, I couldn't upload knowledge to a custom GPT using Safari, I had to use Chrome
alright. just seems weird as uploading files to gpt 4 works completely fine
yeah, I think it's a bug, try Chrome and please let me know if that works

yup chrome works thanks! must be a bug
yep, thought so, thanks for letting me know
this new update is so fye
So you're thinking it's 32k now, and it was 8k before, right?
that is what I believe based on my own testing
Fantastic. Have you done any experimenting with the knowledge files you can upload? Was thinking of uploading a code base
yea same problem with safari
yes, I uploaded a book I wrote (80 pages) on Prospecting and Mining and it's flawless
omg I love it. Very cool
I remember dalle3 giving me 2 pictures at once. Now it only does one. Is that intended or do you guys have any tricks to unlock two images again?
one image per generation is intended
thats unfortunate
And has the cap gone up? I don't see it displayed anywhere
it's 50 messages per 3 hours still
Anyone else having issues with not seeing the option to include your name in the Builder Profile? Which then doesn't allow my GPT to be public
Got it thanks
I agree
anyone getting Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong.
settings > builder profile
which OS / Web Browser?
chrome
lol chrome os
try with a fresh install of Firefox and let me know if that fixes it please
Is there anywhere I can go to view GPT's created by other people?
thanks
You can see them in the custom-gpts channel for now. For example my language learning GPT https://discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1172386471278297128. But there will be a store by the end of this month, featuring different GPT's!
this is weird i opened a new chat and its working fine, just not on the chat that i was working on
So dalle would generate 4 images per prompt... then 2.... now 1. Is the next step a low res preview? So it might take 2 requests per image?
it only takes one request per image
Today.. I am wondering about tomorrow, based on the progression of how things are going.
I believe they have settled on one prompt, one image for now. My guess is they did it to streamline the use of images in custom GPTs
So what are some potential things that these gpts can do in the future ?
have a look in #1171489862164168774 and see the range of things people are doing with custom GPTs now
What would be the best format to upload text to a cutom gpt knowledgebase? plain .txt files? .pdf?
PDF is a good way to do it. I had the option to use text or PDF for my Mining and Prospecting GPT and chose PDF
Sometimes PDF parsing is bad upstream especially if PDFs are somewhat complicated or contain tabular data in which case raw text is better
because as you probably know PDF text is all just free floating elements not anchored to anything so parsers read it top down
slight variances in the layout can cause text to be truncated, cut off, or combined with the wrong other pieces of text
Is there a way for ChatGPT to read links ? Like if I was to paste a YT link of some video
So .txt would be better, got it. Does it understand that each file is seperate? Like if I upload 5 .txt files, and I ask it to recall something from the file name "example.txt", will it know to use that specific page or does it combine the knowledge into one main thing
It will know that each file is separate yeah
Are plug ins running on gpt 4 or 3.5 now?
Absolutely brilliant
do EPUB files suffer from the same issues that might affect PDF?
Let me check real quick
"The first few words on page 20 of the "Miner's and Prospector's Pocket Guide" are "GENERAL NATURE OF ROCKS. THE general characteristics of rocks consist"."
Can you confirm that's correct
that looks right
EPubs are ZIP files that contain html, so it should be much better than PDF
Is there a way go around Dall E restrictions, I was trying to do a picture of like a mafia boss and it told me it can’t do that
since html is easily parseable
Ha, love it.
No, and you shouldn't try to bypass the content filter either at the risk of having your account deactivated.
Is there a way to make google slides through ChatGPT ? Or maybe use some kind of AI?
What is that ?
hello everyone......
Yes
So a question I have is, what's the difference between me posting 200 pages of something into the main chatgpt window and asking questions about it, versus posting 200 pages into the knowledgebase and then asking questions about it? Because obviously it would say the length was too long if I did it the first way. @white shard
How do I be specific with it ? For example I need to make a presentation about Indian’s building called Stuppa
And it will include pictures and like bullet points and stuff ?
I see
hey,
everything I ask for results in an error, right now: "There was an error generating a response" anyone else experiencing these problems?
when asking for an image i sometimes receive one but than the chat is over with the same error message. can only click "regenerate" which results in the same problem
Custom GPTs are not having a good time right now, my one is failing to find knowledge contained in it's text based knowledgebase
There was an error generating a response.....
fr
My GPTs doesn't work at all, I got "Hmm...something seems to have gone wrong."
Service is degraded right now, please be patient until OpenAI can deal with it
Y'all go to bed so I can work like a degen through the night. JK lol yeah this is world chaning tech so not a surprise everyone is pushing their servers to the max
yes the peoples love AI it seems, which ultimatley is a good thing. bring it on haha
The way retrieval works is different
When you paste into the chat window the whole thing is inserted into the prompt
when you use retrieval, there is an underlying mathematical system that breaks up the document into many chunks, creates a numerical representation of it, and then in the future when you chat and ask about the data it retrieves of the X most relevant chunks for use in the prompt, ensuring it remains under the context window for the prompt
I understand, thanks for explaining
What’s the most effective way to train custom gpts on uni course content like finance maths. I want to use it to solve questions as a marking guide
I don't think you need to actually train it since gpt4 finance math know well about financial calculation. I guess you just need to attach your curriculum to it so it know what you are planning to learn and practice
Does anyone know why I can't see the Action set builder but only the schema input instead
Yea it’s pretty good but seems to mess up some calculations so was curious how I could optimise it some more
what do you mean by messing up calculations?
Hello everyone, I am trying to make a customGPT and put documentation in it, any idea what is the best way to do this?
Should I convert the documentation to a PDF from the website and upload the file to GPT?
Using incorrect formulas and misinterpreting more complex worded questions
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I scraped and cleaned html and uploaded like that. You can probably do it a variety of ways
go to sleep y'all 😭
jk
Hello caesar! You already started coding XD!
How do I get started doing this friend, is it very hard?
Did you use any online tool to scrape and clean the HTML.
A follow up question, is the customGPT actually good?
I'm still trying to figure out if customGPT is good, I think I might just prefer using the assistants API rn but I'm not sure. These are good questions to ask GPT. I used python and selenium to do quick and dirty html scraping, then uploaded the dirty html to GPT4 chat and asked it to remove certain elements using xpath, and then uploaded the final cleaned html
Thank you! I will try to do the same ☘️
Custom Actions in the GPT Builder seem broken. The docs say
Custom Actions: You can make third-party APIs available to your GPT by providing details about the endpoints, parameters, and a description about how the model should use it. Actions for GPTs can also be imported from an OpenAPI schema. So if you’ve already built a plugin, you will be able to use your existing plugin manifests to define actions for your GPT.
But it's only showing an option for OpenAPI schema and not a fill in the blanks form for endpoints like it did.
does GPT builder already use gpt4 turbo?
it seems much faster than the normal gpt4
yes, it uses GPT-4 Turbo
there is a way tho its in the explorer option i guess
wow ChatGPT just got an update?
it is now able to browse, do data analysis etc without switching
Is web browsing capacity gone? I can't find it any more
i also tried to upload a PDF file and it was able to read the contents of it perfectly fine. I wonder what is the max number of PDF pages it supports?
gpt-4 turbo... thoughts on output quality?...
@toxic shell i think its all in one thing now in GPT-4
It says it can't read any content from a URL
Does anyone know whether GPT-4 still have the 50 response cap?
50 messages per 3 hours
Does show Browsing with Bing?
If it's working there will be a frame read status, if not you may need to change the prompt.
is all system operational
ohh i see it is super slow but still answering
it just said 'In ' and disappeared
It's so slow, that it encounters an error before it finishes a task for me
Same
I somehow feel it works even worse after the update
I see this ai is still buggy
is dalee working?
yes -> https://status.openai.com
On chat gpt its gpt4 turbo or Just gpt4
try again. theres so many people wanting to use it, it might just be a one time hiccup. sometimes it takes me 2 or 3 tries
working now thx
noice
After some 12 hours of playing with custom GPTs, I went back to using ChatGPT Classic. I assume the most significant new feature is the increase of the context window.
ChatGPT GPT-4 Turbo has a more nuanced language style that is more human-like. I prefer it over Classic.
Can Turbo be accessed at chat.openai.com? The Classic uses GPT-4
Turbo is the standard on chat.openai.com
sorry was trapped to some cases. My experience was giving or naming all your need before processing any calculation. In matter of GPTs, I guess giving out a pdf with proper list of fomula would be necessary. I just tried to use GPTs to process some analysis for hydrogen industry. To ensure it doesn't make up some faulty information, I indicate a few trustworthy websites and already approved report previously. so far so good.
I don't seem to be able to find it. It seems to be giving me just GPT4 and 3.5 as options for standard models.
this is Classic -> https://chat.openai.com/g/g-YyyyMT9XH-chatgpt-classic
does it say with Dalle, browsing and analysis? thats turbo then
I see. I thought it's just the old GPT-4
@normal quarry has GPT 4 knowledge date been finally updated ?
I'm asking for codding
Apparently, Iv seen it mention April 2023 however when it recommends lib versions to use they are all very outdated
I don't think so. I think they will be rolling it out in the coming weeks with the new gpt4
I can't remember, I think starting in December I read somewhere
At least they took my advice and streamlined all the features into one single module.
Unless you explicitly tell it to use a specific version, it always leans toward using older ones. Probably cuz it's much more comfortable with them.
April 2023
Sweet, thank you friends, I was waiting for a knowledge update for quite some time.
You can also ask it to visit a url with new documentation but usually it doesn't provide very good answers with such new information.
Oh yeah I remember that didn't work that well since back when they first released the browsing module.
Hope there will be a copy/paste feature for gpts in future
yeah I'm sure that's planned
@brisk dirge do you have the new interface and all the new features? If so check out GPTs, very cool stuff!
I do! I didn't play with that feature yet but I was very amused when I saw the GenZ 4 memes GPT 😄
Hey can we actually roll back to the last version of chatgpt4? it worked wayy better
No
yes actually -> https://chat.openai.com/g/g-YyyyMT9XH-chatgpt-classic
Hi guys, somehow I cannot save my gpt draft after I upload some pdfs into the knowledge base. Is that because I exceed the limit or something?
whats going on with the speed of chatgpt right now? 😄
I have 13 pdfs
Is there a token limit?
This new GPT 4 seems to work much better for coding @normal quarry it already managed to help me solve an issue that gave me big headaches with the previous GPT 4. And it seems to actually listen when you tell it to give back the complete code, it no longer truncates it.
Hello guys, I started using MyGPT feature and I have a problem. The whole process of creating the new GPT is very easy, and I'm grateful that OpenAI gave the assistant that helps to create a new GPT, but there's one problem. When I add a PDF file or a transcript from a video, it always adds that file as an attachment. Therefore, when a user has a conversation with the GPT, itcan look up the document and search for information. I understand that sometimes this can be helpful, but instead I would like to fine-tune my GPT so that its core knowledge is updatet with the files I gave. Guys, do you understand my concept and question?
Is there a GPT marketplace somewhere or not yet ?
How to fine-tune myGPT with the external files?
that is intended behaviour. You can't fine tune a custom GPT
yes. I agree, I like it better
anyone else experiencing slow loads?
oh, why does it work like that? Fine-tuning would be better
yes, it's slow for everyone right now
The DallE portion of Chat GPT isn't showing its modified prompts anymore. It actually did a good job with that. Any way to get that back?
I want to create an application where the AI is thinking about something. You can ask questions, and you will either get a "yes", "no" or "didn't understand" back by the AI. If you can guess the word in x amount of questions you win! How should I go about creating this? I was thinking about using the system window to give it information about what to answer. Is this a good idea, and if yes, how should I prompt it?
fine tuning is not a simple process, the idea of custom GPTs is that anyone can make them easily
I guess it's maximum 10 pdfs
Yeah, I understand that it's not that simple because the creator needs to provide with a JSON file that contains prompts and perfect replies to those prompts. To make it really good, the creator has to provide with hundreds of these. But I think that GPT Assistant is fully capable of making all that work from the PDF file that the user attaches. So I'm really surprised that it doesn't have that feature.
the current limit is 50 messages per 3 hours
On the other hand, they made all tools more accessible, it makes more token requests so maybe not
Ok, they should include it on the new UI. Probably confusing
Hey guys, read through the docs but still kinda confused as to what are the practical differences between GPTs and Assistants. Could someone shed some light on this?
I think assistant is a new and maybe more accessible or powerful way to interact with the api, just like chat was
and they make GPTs with that
ah so GPTs are built on top of the assistants api. That would mean that I'd have more flexbility building models throug the assistants api rather than GPTs UI
@normal quarry does the new GPT4 model available on chat.openai.com supports 128k context?
I don't think it's going to work that well because the AI could think of many things similar to a human. Think about it, what are the chances of you actually guessing what it's thinking about, the posiblities are probably almost infinite if not infinite 😄 (it will probably not be fun is what I'm trying to say).
If you just want to create a chatbot ai there are free LLMs you can probably use. Try looking for some "chatbot AI programming LLM" tutorials on youtube to see how it's done but mind you it's probably going to be a challenge.
I think so yes
What I find interesting is that you have a GPT Builder assistant that helps you build your GPT
I've only tested it to 32K
oh wow and it allows you to input such a large document? thats pretty cool. What about the size of PDFs supported by the model? Also does it properly understand the figures, tables and other equations mentioned in the PDFs? It would be super helpful to analyze research papers
gotcha, appreciate it mate
It already exsists if you search for quizzle.game. I would give the word to the AI so other people could guess
I have successfully uploaded a 300 page PDF and it worked well
damn this is game changing update in that case. definitely worth it
yeah it's good
But you may not have vision though
I don't have it yet on the API
And the UI is defenitely less appealing out there, so while it probably is more powerful and useful, it's less accessible yk
Oh, it's like a game. Then you could ask gpt about how you could go about it. You have to explain to it how you want the game to work and then you have to tell it which programming language you want to use (I'd recommend using Flutter if you're doing a mobile app, gpt seems pretty good with Flutter).
It is a web app
Probably React on the front end, Node and Express on the backend and Firebase for the server
Would it be a good idea to use the "system" to tell the word and that I want a "yes", "no", or "don't know response" back in JSON?
I saw someone using: "Return response in the following parsable JSON format"
Yeah looks like it's a compromise.
- GPTs for web browsing and vision
- Assistants API for retrieval and function calling
Yep
Ah alright
I don't really know cause I didn't play that type of game. You have to structure your db tables based on the way the game would be designed in terms of input output/predefined answers and questions and so on. @autumn quiver
I have like 2 days to make this, in school (9th grade)
Just want something really simple
You could try asking chat gpt to help you if it's something simple if your school allows for it.
Is the limit still 50 messages per 3 hours?
yes
I have myGPT feature on my web version, but not on Android. how to activate it on Android?
Is anyone else getting network errors / something went wrong, but still getting some outputs ?
Do we know the actual context window for ChatGPT Turbo?
yes, frequently. I just try again. it's all due to the overwhelming demand for the service
Sam Altman tweeted “usage of our new features from devday is far outpacing our expectations. we were planning to go live with GPTs for all subscribers monday but still haven’t been able to. we are hoping to soon. there will likely be service instability in the short term due to load. sorry :/“
Thought so dude, thank you!
Sorry to barge into everyone’s conversations, but I keep getting this UnrecognizedKwargsError error when POSTing to endpoints via a custom GPT action. I have found only one forum on this which was regarding the assistants api, and have implemented the suggestions but nothing. This is an OpenAI-specific error apparently, so I’m wondering if anyone else has come across this as there is currently no info available. I was able to get it to POST using a schema earlier today, and I see that other custom GPTs are able to POST, and I can tell that the request is not making it to my endpoint, nor is it improperly formatted (getting the gpt to output a curl command for the action it is trying to use results in a fully functional curl command). GET requests are working fine, at least in my current setup.
are you supposed to be able to upload PDFs?
If no one has dealt with this, I’ll open a bug for it
Anyone offer advice or input as to why one of my chat conversations has completely error crashed out on me... It started when I tried to upload an image. Then none of my previos convos worked. Then I could start a new convo, but it would error crash when I tested it by uploading an image. Now today, original convo is still error crashed, but previous convos are ok, slow, but working. I have logged out, cleared cache, opened a new tab to launch in, but still the same error generating... sigh...
What the?! Some how it can recall the beginning events of the previous stories that I wrote with the old GPT 4.
It always got it wrong, this is next level then.
Every conversation that is stored is stored in its entirety.
That means it now can use more of the history in future answers, if I understand things correctly.
Yeah, but it would’ve forgotten it due to the context limitations.
So the conversation history is stored as just messages. Every time you ask for a new answer it takes what it can of the history as part of the input.
At least that's how I think it works.
Just make some changes and publish again until it works. Happens every once in a while
Unless this 32k update made it read the entire story all over again.
The conversation is not fed into some memory somewhere, the context is the memory
Although that story was kinda experimental and long as heck.
In response to this
Essentially ChatGPT continually feeds the previous messages into itself up until the context length
When I log back in the convo has the error message already saved so I can't try a new message entry...
So if you suddenly have a model with a larger context length, it will just feed more previous messages into itself, which gives the illusion of suddenly remembering older elements of the conversation
This is exactly how I interpret it
So it just restores the previous messages it got rid of due to the new context length?
It never got rid of them. You could always scroll up in a conversation and read them. But, when writing a new question, it wouldn't include as much of them before as it does now.
Unlike the new threads and messages concept introduced with the assistants api, chatgpt simply utilizes its context to store all relevant information. You’ll notice this if you try to use the api to build an your own chatbot, where you will have to locally store every message and response and continually feed the increasing amount of text into the api for every message if you want to have a relevant conversation with context. This is secretly what happens behind the scenes with threads in the assistant api as well, but it is automatically managed and truncated by the api, and thread is there to simply store the context server-side instead of requiring that it be fed into every api request
It never got rid of the messages, all messages exist on the server, it simply can fit more of them in its context window
I know that, it was just before, if I asked it a question regarding the very beginning of the story, it would hallucinate.
128k tokens is extremely large. I have dumped insane quantities of data into Anthropic’s 100k model and not even hit the limit
what the...! I submitted feedback on the website like 20 min ago... My chat just came back to life right now. Sheesh! It's been frozen since yesterday!
ChatGPT is running off of the 128k model, but I am not sure if there are context restrictions applied per-account. API does though
Yeah “large” is relative. I don’t think 128k tokens is large enough to truly solve the context problem when it comes to, for example, managing a production application in its entirety, but it’s good for small projects
The context is limited on chatgpt, but not by the model itself from my understanding
Upload it as a file, tends to work better
That, can’t share with image,” thing is stopping me from sharing the story here.
I keep getting network error no matter what I do. GPT generates and then just gets interrupted by network error. EVERY single TIME.
Sam Altman tweeted “usage of our new features from devday is far outpacing our expectations. we were planning to go live with GPTs for all subscribers monday but still haven’t been able to. we are hoping to soon. there will likely be service instability in the short term due to load. sorry :/“
For the time being you can achieve similar functionality by creating an assistant in the playground and uploading a file with those functions
Of course, amazing business model they have
And then updating those functions if you want
hi guys, does the new feature myGPT works on mobile device or only web?
Although ChatGPT estimates that my story may will be 10,000 to 15,000 words or more.
Wonder if 32k context is enough for that
is it possible to upload a PDF to the API and then query against it?
Well, now I can cook up a story and not have to worry about it forgetting the beginning anymore
I can straight up upload wikis inside it and it won’t forget
whats the limit of knowledge you can upload i wonder
Well, I’ll just copy and paste descriptions of fictional environments here and there for story development.
The characters will be unique though
Sounds like a fun gpt. Let us know how it goes.
It’s not a GPT, it’s a story made within it
my bad
Hi, why does ChatGPT use an edit icon as a new chat icon?
is it intentional or a mistake in the design?
"I'm sorry for any confusion, but as an AI developed by OpenAI, I don't have the capability to directly interact with external files, browse the web, or run code analysis tools."
hmm it is supposed to have access to them
Hey guys, do you have any idea how to get the custom gpt to link the images in it's knowledge base in the chat when asked? Is it even possible? does it have to be a certain file type?
I finally got it! The GPTs! Let's gooo! 😄 ❤️
https:// github. com/ForkInABlender/ChatGPT_solutions_produced_from_simple_prompt/blob/2023_11/gpt3_4_using_2_with_function_calls_optional.py
oops
:) what used to cost $20 now truly costs $0.
Forever....every month.....
"Why pay more for what you could simply not"
Let's gooo! 😄 ❤️
Hi guys, have encountered problems that GPT assistant automatically updating itself
It just does not give me a chance to say anything lol
Now it tells me there is an error
I think average 100 line of code would usually eqaul to around 4k tokens with what I tested. ChatGPT rumored to have 4k/8k context window to work with. I don't think it's confirmed. Until they officially move to larger context window, working with anything beyond 100 lines of code is pretty limiting.
Developer API is the way to go for large code bases.
Ok, well I just ran my entire story through a word counter, it says it's 83,693 words or 521,938 characters. (Estimated to 80,000 given the prompting)
32k context, yeah right...
This is 128k, and I proved it for myself.
And as far as I know, it would impossible for this thing to remember the beginning details of my stories, if it was only 8k.
Yeah, but it wasn't able to do that before the update.
It can't just search through the story if they context window isn't large enough for the whole thing to fit inside it.
He explained it the best.
No, it wasn't, I asked it about the previous messages close to the beginning before the update, and it gave me hallucinated answers.
As I understand it. There is still a 4k token limit. However, it now has multiple pre-processors to scan and evaluate existing conversation (up to 128k tokens) to pull out relevant parts and encode them into the 4k input token.

Well, it had to remember the 80000 words somehow.
Vpn are known to be a bug with openai products
Can you try with chrome for a test run
If this is a fresh install , yes
Does anyone know the trick to get chatGPT to respond in full with the entire code and not cut it out for brevity? How to prevent this in its code responses?
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would love this information too 😄
obvious openai trying to reduce costs for that portion
Best experience with GPT-4 now )
Is it just me or is GPT-4 getting more and more stupid and forgetful?
oh it is doing that to everyone I am pretty sure
Glad it works at the end
wait is there a limit to chat gpt 4 now?
always
oh mb i pharsed the question wrong. i ment after the new update is it still 50 messages or have they made it higher?
I heard some people saying the cap is 100/3h but I don't have official source
Do we have Turbo in ChatGPT or is it still just in API right now?
Damn 😮
Just hit my GPT-4 limit for the first time in a while. sad face
I think it is all in one getting that
You weren't supposed at first
yea they dont like to make it
It's never let me do that without coercion and tricking it 😆
It's amazing that people haven't realized you can just give it replacement terminology and it will do the job just fine. Replace words afterwards and boom, you're done. Don't be lazy
Even better, just train and host your own models
It's annoying how when you're making a GPT and typing something in the create tab then switching to the configure tab it will delete what you wrote
DOM elements are probably being dynamically changed, clearing contents as you switch. I would copy/paste what you have as you go along to not lose stuff.
Might wanna do that anyway. I noticed that it rewrites the instructions instead of modifying them, at least in my brief testing.
Oh man, I literally just ran into reaching the limit on prompts and have to wait a full hour. I blame to many errors when trying to create a GPT hahah
is regular gpt4(all tools) now gpt4 turbo or not yet?
haven't tried super long input/output
That "image of a rose" text still hits it badly
For gpt 4 ?
did you try mentionning that in custom instructions ?
Do GPTs use GPT-4?
yup
Hi all, I am a developer and I just tested creating a GPT and also an Assistant thru the Playground. Technically speaking they seem the same right? The only difference is that one you use the ChatGPT UI and the other you used an API/Playground.
Is that correct or are there any features that are available in one that are not available on the other.
I always reach my cap now, creating new GPTs and testing them 😅 How can I get a higher cap?
you can just ask it to say "give the code without executuion of yourself" it did the same thing for me, but after the promt in the same chat it worked fine
i noticed also that sometimes, with little changes in custom instruction, big differences. like I changed things to say the same thing, should trigger the same result and nope, big changes in output. i guess the best is to try until you get the desired result and stick with these custom instructions
It's suppose to be double the cap limit. They will adjust that to be double once they have everyone settled with the new UI.
people are saying that new gpt4 version got bad since and they would prefer the old gpt without the appropriate knowledge of the current date of april 2023, since the new model due to the vastly increase token size it gives out rubbish/unrealted code or forgets the real pupose of it. do you guys think will it be fixed in the near future or this issue gonna persist always?
There is the old GPT4, it's called GPT Classic, in the Explore menu.
OMG I got GPTs! 😎
yeah i was thining the same
Does anyone know if gpt turbo will be added to chatgpt plus?
I thought it was great when I heard those news, as I rarely hit the limit before custom GPTs. I just hope I am not already on the double.
I hope so. Kinda sad that I need to wait one hour now before I can continuing my experiments.
No your not. I counted, it's 50 for me as well right now.
But it will be 100 soon enough.
I know 100 would have been sufficient always before custom GPTs. But when you need to test the GPT you can need to generate 200 messages in an hour.
when did they say that tho? i dont remember they specifically calling out on that, that it will be in the future?
In the DevDay video
One momento. I'll find it for you.
appreciated.
I can't find it. Maybe I imagined it 🤷♂️
Hello, do you guys know what model of gpt, the new chatgpt is using ?
It seems its data goes up to april-23, even though on some subjects I found it knowing only data up to mid 22.
But I tried to test the window of chatgpt (max token), and I added my name at the beginning of the conversation, then I copy pasted texted from wikipedia for around 30/40k tokens
And finally asked for my name after that, he didn't remember
Isn't gpt4-Turbo supposed to have a 128k token window ?
guys custom GPT instructions are not working up to the mark for me.. i tried a lot changing the prompts, but it just doesn't work.. seems like natural language is still not enough compared to coding.
Hello, I would like to understand how to format a prompt more efficiently, I have an insignificant experience in dev but I undestant the beginner concept (variable, object, array etc...) I have seen some prompt written almost as a code with some symbole like -- to execute command and different bracket type.
I have a few question along these lines:
- Is there a guide/doc explanning the signification of these different symboles and how to use them ?
- What would be a good way to clarify some parts of my prompt that are for context and should be referenced to all the time versus a one time execution of an action?
- how to indicate that something is a list and to pick a random item from this list?
many thanks
Hi guys, do you have access to myGPT through mobile app?
I just got access to new chatgpt and GPTs, my question would be if chatgpt4 is using turbo now with 128k context size or is it still same old chatgpt?
It's not 128k context for chatgpt, even after the update, look at my message above
Does the browse with Bing feature work for ChatGPT 4? Or is it stopped? Saw an article from July (which I can't paste here) which said it was disabled. Whenever I try to use it I get the error Error browsing. I'm unable to access the contents of the page you've provided.
Working
What prompt did you try ?
Summarise the following page in 2 sentences {URL HERE}
And what site did you try to summarize? (Without copy paste url ) like Wikipedia?
Just a page on a website, can't paste it because server rules
Some website are protected and chatgpt won't go
How much does ChatGPT draw on previous conversations with you? I just asked it a seemingly unrelated question and it returned a response that was almost word for word and very different discussion.
I own the website. Is there some flag the bot is looking for?
prbably robots.txt
It might, you can always try to send email to support@openai.com or / and post in #1070006915414900886
Of what did you try so far etc
If you try with Wikipedia or open source website
Does it works ?
The content is public information, I'll see if I can find the same thing elsewhere
Hi! Is there a limit to which one should write the instructions for custom gpt?
Yes limit of characters input
Thanks, will experiment a bit and do that if still no joy.
that's in custom instructions, but i'm talking about instructions in GPT builder..
Oh that I don't know I didn't try it
Best to ask in #1171489862164168774
it seems to have no limit.. but the problem is that it's not following all of the instructions..
oh thanks! didn't realize we have a channel for it now haha
Add your well-crafted prompts to our #1019652163640762428,
or share your interactions with ChatGPT in #1050184247920562316!
How much does ChatGPT draw on previous conversations with you? I just asked it a seemingly unrelated question and it returned a response that was almost word for word and very different discussion.
Yeah it must be a block on my own site. Tried some random documentation about postgres and it worked fine
At least you know where is the issues is
No problem , have a good uwu day
are GPTs only available to GPT Plus subscribers?
i don't think chaptgpt uses data from other conversations to improve user specific responses in new chats yet
yup
that might be what gets me to subscribe!
go for it! it's amazing
I mean I've been getting help with an tabletop RPG dungeon this morning, and I just started a new chat and asked about pen and pencil puzzles and it gave me level 4 of the dungeon.
pretty darned specificly.
Hello, I have a question. When I am creating myGPT, does it use GPT 3.5 or GPT 4? If the latter, does the responses of myGPT count to the 50 message limit per 3 hours?
that's 👀, interesting
its a drop down and the limit changes
actually , when I use myGPT on mobile App , I cannot choose which model it uses.
I can, its the triple dot on the top right.
are you subscribed to chatgpt?
yes I have chatgpt plus. I can change the models when I use the main ChatGPT mode, but when I swich to myGPT, the dropdown only contains "View details"
I have an android device, and you?
ah I might have misunderstood you
Are there any forums or such where I can discuss GPTs?
Discord isn't really what I am looking for. This place isn't answering questions.
Maybe consider https://community.openai.com if what you find in this server isn't what you're looking for 
Thank you! It's been a frustrating time here.
I'm experiencing problems with ADA part of new GPT, it does not execute code atm
Apologies for the inconvenience! We'd appreciate any #1070006151938314300 you have for the server to make it more accommodating 🫶
"It appears that there is an issue with the Python environment right now. Unfortunately, I can't execute any Python code at the moment. "
Nah, I've just been asking questions for 2 days and no one has replied to any of them. 🙂
It's hard when it comes to AI )
deciding which channel to use may have a big impact on the results
Indeed
I'm pretty confident GPT questions go in GPT channel? Where should I ask questions about making GPTs? I'm just here because this was a general question. Also, note how I am here on Discord discussing how Discord works, rather than just going to a forum and getting answers. I appreciate the time you took to say "wrong channel." 😄
Just politely following up on this question, thank you please #chatgpt-discussions message
#1171489862164168774 would be the place to share and discuss your GPTs, along with where you could talk about building on/improving them!
Questions about GPTs could go either there or in #community-help
I don't think anyone knows yet unfortunately - Code Interpreter's mathematical capabilities may be a decent substitute in the meantime
Thank you. Sometimes people know this stuff, e.g. "It is being rolled out" and its not been officially announced, sometimes I find that out here so why I asked, albeit it does seem a silly question, it potentially saves me money, so thank you again for your answer.
By code interpreter do you mena that now its built in, in the multi modal sense or via GPT's feature?
It should be available through both, the new multimodal version can use it along with DALL-E and Browsing, and you can enable Code Interpreter with your own GPTs
Ah makes sense, thanks a lot, this helps me so much!
chatgpt looks so good
with the new 100/3hr limit its almost impossible to hit?
Asking to split its work into small functions then it is fine.
It works good for making codes for me so far.
I've hit the limit exactly once and it was back when 25/3hr
it is 1 per 108s so pretty sure you can't hit it unless you spam
at least I take much more time than 108s while prompting
also most generation takes longer than 108s
yeah that too
but still the current gpt4 is much faster
"Hello! How can I assist you today?"
I remember back when browsing first rolled out back in Spring
u prompt, go to the bathroom, have a glass of water, and come back to see the results
I do that often
watch a movie real quick
sometimes I enter prompt and go bathroom real quick and it is still printing text
I'd also love to see some stats on how long did it take to train gpt4 and how much electricity/water does gpt4 use on average for 1 prompt
It's still 50/3hr I think
of course ClosedAI will not share any information
Also I was using the GPT maker
Making a gpt for awhile hits it
guess that takes more than one per prompt
Which is currently kinda buggy, so I had to use the gpt maker for everything
The thing is openai got so much resources its hard for competition to catch up
(I can't upload images for the pfps currently)
xAI probably got potential, but it will take quite a bit
Here is my GPT that has ChatGPT act as a GM in a TTRPG session. You can use any universe, and have multiple people play. Its turning out pretty consistent. Looking for feedback
https://chat.openai.com/g/g-Dz016d6wT-ttrpg-any-universe-with-your-friends
yea they uh yea
well tbf Tesla got quite a bit of stuff ig... maybe they could take advantage of that?
Bard has more bruh
xAI in MY car???
perhaps the biggest advantage of xAI is they got the entire Twitter to train on...
The worst dataset in the world
lmao yea right
Second worst dataset
Twitter is as good as using Facebook as a dataset
big dataset is usually good but when it is twitter
Might i even say Tumblr
Tumblr is just the art platform now
image training?
Also is that even supposed to be impressive? Any company can do that
lawsuits.
my gpt is messed up
ah yes that is a thing
Elon sues them
Like actually
if I have to guess for the last many months Elon Musk has been trying to keep AI companies away from scraping Twitter data...
artists will never let it happen
bard is sh** ngl
at least never let it happen smoothly
mine stopped responding when I gave it too much knowledge
also the site policy and stuffs like that
Bing is sh**tier
bing lmao
I mean I always getting the clouflare thing
absolutely not
Yeah it's funny
waht are you on mate
doesnt chatgpt also use bing for web browsing
GPT-4
tbh if u use chatgpt enough chatgpt plus is probably a better deal than paying for the api
ye
Not GPT-fake
Just admit it dude both Bing and Bard compared to chatgpt are completely different beasts now
bing is far better than bard
u don't have to make that many gpt4 requests to reach 20 dollars
Nahhhhhh
bro
What are you on
chat with bing was super good when it first got released