gpt-models

[mint thistle]

thus we also need to~~ install ~~ Instill in to AI, the general love for all living creatures... (odd undesirable type... sorry)

[grim cliff]

nah, for AI to become as sentient as a human, it would need like 2.5 petabyte of memory. They are planning to use human brains in the future for ai

[spring cedar]

It seems I can't post any links here

[dusky iron]

thats on purpose

[spring cedar]

But look for this: "ChatGPT’s Potential To Eliminate Jobs Scares OpenAI’s Founder Sam [...]"

[grim cliff]

heck, some people are trying to use mushrooms for tech

[dusk needle]

The faster its progress though, the faster everyone will have a greater sense of solidarity, being in the same boat, on an economic fringe amid great technological prosperity. Then, governmental changes to ensure 'all boats rise' (to supplant ineffective "safety" nets) I expect will ensue with commensurate rapidity

[earnest pulsar]

i haven't been able to get GPT to work for me i constantly get an error every time i try

frustrating

[dusky iron]

but what does the error actually say?

[spring cedar]

What's wrong?

[viscid zenith]

What's the most horrifying thing is that Microsoft practically owns OpenAI... worst decision ever.

[dusky iron]

dont paraphrase it, post it

[earnest pulsar]

"Something went wrong, if issue persists look at help page" pretty vague

[dusky iron]

ahh

Clear Brower Cache or try another browser.

often time its a browser issue

[spring cedar]

Here is what Microsoft said:

[earnest pulsar]

strange the ai depends on our browser cache 🤔

[spring cedar]

Can I paste it here?

[dusky iron]

how long is it?

[mint thistle]

Yea, the problem is that if you offer me 5 billion dollars for my life's work on chatbots... I might do it.

[dusky iron]

its a webchat Primarily Javascript it runs on to send msgs through from a 3rd source.

[ember crown]

The more you understand it the more it will be your reflection

[spring cedar]

_The Microsoft team uses that definition as a tentative starting point and concludes with the nonsensationalistic claim that we should think of GPT-4, the newest large language model (LLM) from OpenAI, as progress towards artificial general intelligence (AGI). They write:

Our claim that GPT-4 represents progress towards AGI does not mean that it is perfect at what it does, or that it comes close to being able to do anything that a human can do… or that it has inner motivation and goals (another key aspect in some definitions of AGI). In fact, even within the restricted context of the 1994 definition of intelligence, it is not fully clear how far GPT-4 can go along some of those axes of intelligence, e.g., planning… and arguably it is entirely missing the part on “learn quickly and learn from experience” as the model is not continuously updating (although it can learn within a session…). Overall GPT-4 still has many limitations, and biases, which we discuss in detail below and that are also covered in OpenAI’s report… In particular it still suffers from some of the well-documented shortcomings of LLMs such as the problem of hallucinations… or making basic arithmetic mistakes… and yet it has also overcome some fundamental obstacles such as acquiring many non-linguistic capabilities… and it also made great progress on common-sense…

This highlights the fact that, while GPT-4 is at or beyond human-level for many tasks, overall its patterns of intelligence are decidedly not human-like. However, GPT-4 is almost certainly only a first step towards a series of increasingly generally intelligent systems, and in fact GPT-4 itself has improved throughout our time testing it…_

Even as a first step, however, GPT-4 challenges a considerable number of widely held assumptions about machine intelligence, and exhibits emergent behaviors and capabilities whose sources and mechanisms are, at this moment, hard to discern precisely… Our primary goal in composing this paper is to share our exploration of GPT-4’s capabilities and limitations in support of our assessment that a technological leap has been achieved. We believe that GPT-4’s intelligence signals a true paradigm shift in the field of computer science and beyond.

[dusky iron]

Lets hold it there so the mods dont think anything.

[spring cedar]

Okay

[dusky iron]

i remember reading that actually

although impeding the Growth of AI is wrong.

[grim cliff]

ngl, gonna ask chat gpt how to make an ai step by step and ask for advice. See where that leads me

[dusky iron]

if it can solve most our troubles it should, why should we limit it.

[spring cedar]

The problem is that we humans are not prepared for something that is essentially faster than us in every task

[dusky iron]

Some are not, Some Are.

i for one are prepared.

[spring cedar]

Because AIs can make capitalism as we know it collapse

[dusky iron]

i have been prepping for this.

🦸‍♂️

[spring cedar]

What happens when AIs work for free, but there is no one to buy what they produce?

[grim cliff]

create an ai that can scramble it's password every 5 seconds and the password is 100 characters long. Hue hue good luck hacking it

[dusky iron]

get another ai to do it.

there was talk about Letting GPT loose.

but with an AI supervisor, alongside human supervisors.

[spring cedar]

The irony of things is how badly programmers are reacting to this. IMHO they are reacting worse than artists

[ember crown]

🍴

[worthy parcel]

bunch of kids arguing

[dusky iron]

i dont think the Programmers have any right to complain at all.

[ruby token]

True

[dusky iron]

its code spitting out code.

[shrewd wren]

the programmers were hoisted by their own petard

[spring cedar]

Most programmers I have interacted with have a superiority complex, so they don't think they will be replaced at all

[worthy parcel]

I haven't seen anyone complaining

Only praise of copilot

[dusky iron]

Sure Coding is hard work, it deffo is.

[ruby token]

So you think programmers will be replaced?

[dusky iron]

but why not make it easier?

[wind urchin]

Most humans I have interacted with have a superiority complex with ai

[spring cedar]

I have, man. I usually talk to artists and programmers. The programmers I have interacted with think GPT is a huge meme, because GPT-3 is bad at generating code

[dusky iron]

the sheer skill of GPT 4 in such a short span of time, yes.

[ruby token]

What about game developers

[dusky iron]

if GPT can do it better, then i dont care.

[quartz inlet]

What's your own opinion about AI replacing programmers?

[wind urchin]

Gpt-4 has been shown to be able to create complex 3d games in an unrestricted lab setting

[spring cedar]

Yes, but the answer is a bit more complex. GPT-4 can already replace programmers for a lot of stuff. But like I said, the full power version will probably not be publicly available

[mint thistle]

It will replace Programmers in about 5 years

[dusky iron]

AI Based games would be good.

especially educational games can be made easier, and more fun.

[mint thistle]

you will see a 50% loss of programming jobs in about 10 years

and in 20 years, there will be a 90% loss

[ruby token]

RIP my dream then

[dusky iron]

u can still be a programmer

[wind urchin]

The people who still have a job as a programmer will be the ones who know how to use AI properly

[dusky iron]

if u understand coding and u code with GPT u have the edge.

[worthy parcel]

I think theyre shortsighted, it'll only get better

[spring cedar]

I like using AI to get the code I want... and AIs are good teachers for teaching how to program. Most programmers show a severe lack of patience when trying me to explain me anything. But AI has infinite patience.

[mint thistle]

yea, its going to grow for sure...

[dusky iron]

if GPT generates a code u can ask it to improve and improve it.

[ruby token]

True but i want the good pay mmmmmmmmm

[wind urchin]

This, gpt-4 is only so useful if you don't understand the code or design process

[mint thistle]

especially given the Wolfram Alpha announcment

[spring cedar]

But all that said, I can't deny that we as a society are not prepared for that shift

[dusky iron]

then learn the language of coding then u have an easier time working with gpt.

[wind urchin]

Aye

[quartz inlet]

The whole notion that AI will replace programmers is so far out to me. You'll need programmers to verify code, and most important, you'll need programmers to update AI.

[spring cedar]

It surprises me how shortsighted some of them are

[dusky iron]

if u know how coding actually works, and frameworks etc, and u work with GPT, u have the Edge over Non Coders using GPT.

[spring cedar]

You'll need them for now, but what about 5 years in the future? 10 years?

[mint thistle]

Pay wont matter much in 20 years,... what are you going to buy if robots make "everything"?

[outer gulch]

For those saying ChatGPt sucks, it created python code that replaced a service I've been using for over a decade and that has cost me near on $15k in that time. So in 4 days, with no python coding skills, I've saved myself a lot of $$'s going forward. 🙂

[broken patrol]

You will need less programmers to do those things

[dusky iron]

in an AI controlled "World" a form of "universal" pay is required unless u have a job that isnt replaced by AI.

[viscid zenith]

Also keep in the mind that ChatGPT might the best "teaching tool" out there. This might revolutionise schools.

[wind urchin]

Good job and good use

[worthy parcel]

To be fair to them. The growth of gpt is going to slow down, if they keep the same architecture. It just requires too much processing power to train.

[ruby token]

Welp we're all gonna have to do a whole lot of adjusting and being informed these next years

[dusky iron]

totally agree.

you learn way more engaging with GPT, also beacuse its funnier and more exciting.

[mint thistle]

sure, it will slow in some sense, but these next 10 years... its going to be "amazing"

[spring cedar]

Google introduced Alpaca, which means it's more efficient. It's not as good as GPT locally, but it can run on your PC

[wind urchin]

I think this will revolutionize schools, we are in need of some serious restructuring and have been for awhile, ai will push that envelope

[ruby token]

Agree but governments get informed so late!!

[spring cedar]

So there you have it

[mint thistle]

FYI, its really hard to teach if there is no need to learn.

[worthy parcel]

Yeah I heard about that. But im not sure about the advancements they made there, it just looks like a small transformer. And its really bad compared to gpt 3

[wind urchin]

Yeah LLMs may slow down in the speed they're developing skills but that doesn't take into account developments for efficiency and speed

[ruby token]

I wonder how all this will affect indie developers in the next few years or decades

[spring cedar]

That alone is enough to disrupt many industries

E.g, you could just try running the AI on your PC for simple spellchecking

[mint thistle]

The things many people forget... is that these ChatGPT iterations are going to boost business and creativity in massive ways for the short term.

[spring cedar]

Bye, proofreaders

[subtle hemlock]

Wasn't CGPT-4 supposed to be capable of up to 21 tokens on input and output? At least that's what I've read a lot out there. I started using it and mine continues with the capacity of 3.5. so it stops many messages and codes in between. Not available yet?

[dusky iron]

Productivity skyrockets.

[mint thistle]

yea...

[wind urchin]

.. positively?

[quartz inlet]

What do you imagine in 10 years? AI programming themselves? Creating new updates for themselves? lol Today's AI is a black box, most people don't understand how they get to the solutions they get to. AI needs to shift to a more open box solution where we can easily verify how they reached their responses.

In my humble opinion, AI is an amazing too for programmers, and to many other professions as well.

[mint thistle]

short term.. massively positive for Indie.

[dusky iron]

well they'll have access to GPT too i assume

[wind urchin]

The super big context stuff is available through the API i think?

[mint thistle]

long term... not evensure... there may not even be "Indie" anything in the long term,

[dusky iron]

so quality Will Imrpove.

[spring cedar]

The whole point of AIs is doing more with less. Don't fool yourself. If OpenAI's owner is concerned, then we should prepare ourselves for the end of capitalism as we know it

[ruby token]

Rip 90% of all apps ever existed since chatgpt can pretty much do it as well, if not better. GRAMMARLY is dead, citation apps are dead, lots of softwares gonna be dead

[dusky iron]

true but its needed, a needed step in human progress.

[ruby token]

Yeah

[broken patrol]

Alpaca? That’s the AI that Stanford built out based on leaked llama code from Facebook. That’s not google.

[dusky iron]

sad it is i agree.

[ruby token]

Can't stop development and efficiency

[subtle hemlock]

i meant 21.000 tokens 😛

[subtle hemlock]

humm

[echo arch]

Anyone have access to the python ide + wolfram? feel like amazing things can happen

[dusky iron]

i mean i cant code for sh i a t, and i created a program in 20 min

[bitter sequoia]

totally true, the world is changing and will change even more just because of artificial intelligence

[spring cedar]

Yes, but we need to adapt as a society. If governments don't account for a system where 60-70% of the population will be out of a job, chaos will ensue

[dusky iron]

Universal pay in a form, as much as i hate the term

[wind urchin]

Only Wolfram unfortunately, I really want the code execution plugin. But, I should let you know that I don't think you can use a plugin and the executor at the same time

[mint thistle]

Right... (many "isms") are going to go ByeBye, if robots can make and do anything... its going to be a Utopia, if we get this right.

[spring cedar]

It might be the only way, in a system where labor is not needed

[thorny valley]

continue making ChatGPT the best it can be please 🙂

[wind urchin]

I think plugins, browsing, and code execution are their own models

[dusky iron]

and when tesla comes out with functioning Tesla Bots.

[vale crow]

The end of one piece

[echo arch]

Really? That's dissapointing

[azure sapphire]

oh right what did it said?

[wind urchin]

Yeah

[spring cedar]

AI also has the potential to kill software copyright. If it's so smart it can duplicate entire pieces of software just by analyzing it, then it'll be impossible to keep software obscure

[dusky iron]

we should only really worry when TESLA begins selling Teslabots, Worker Drones

[maiden dawn]

Has anyone here fine-tuned a model?

[wind urchin]

ChatGPT+Wolfram is amazing on its own though, it can call Wolfram as many times as it needs to in a single response

[spring cedar]

E.g, the GPT can duplicate Duck Hunt or Flappy Bird just by looking at it

[dim flame]

I saw the new chatgpt demo where they created bar graphs and graph calculations can the new chatgpt feature make pie charts?

[dusky iron]

Although Guys listen.

[wind urchin]

It CRUSHES multistep math word problems

[mint thistle]

right... another "ism" dies, when copyright has no purpose.

[dusky iron]

ChatGPT and Dungeons and Dragons in the future.

[subtle hemlock]

Good to know, Thanks. got to learn more about it..

[outer gulch]

The height of technological advancement happened a few days ago.. researchers were able to 3D print an edible cake! 😂

[thorny valley]

ty for making ChatGPT 🙂

[mint thistle]

Acting... will also go "bye bye"

[shrewd wren]

DnD DMs gonna have a field day

[dusky iron]

i am already working on an API for that

[thorny valley]

it can only get better from here

[mint thistle]

Only live acting will remain,

[broken patrol]

Chatgpt boss has demonstrated this. He got it working.

[spring cedar]

I foresee a future where you say something like: "Oh, I can't afford Microsoft Office. GPT-4, can you create a Microsoft Office Clone for me?"

[dusk needle]

But capitalism will be ridden off a cliff if it's put on such a pedestal. We will be grappling with the fact that 'intrinsic human value' isn't accounted for - It's not "free" money - How much value isn't accounted for that a human being produces (by virtue of existing), historically, shouldn't have to be a function of capitalism. It's now needed, however. If not attenuated by an evolution of our view of value, we will ride capitalism off a cliff.

For a lack of a more eloquent way of putting it

[dusky iron]

can u link me in dms

[mint thistle]

and maybe a 1 ,2 or 3 "super stars" ... but the rest of acting will be supplanted by digital AI

[sonic silo]

I just checked the FAQ, and I'd like to know if anyone else knows if the "Regenerate Response" will count towards the 25 message use?

[broken patrol]

Don’t got a link, he’s chat gpt boss on tik tok and he’s real solid

[teal flower]

What do you think the minimum cost of living is

[ivory flax]

how do i use the function to analyze photos in gpt4?

[round sage]

Yooooooo

[sonic silo]

sign up for API waitlist and plugin wait list.

[spring cedar]

Only a few professions won't be replaced by AI in the sense you describe. E.g, actors. People want to see the real actors, not an AI cosplaying as them. But those professions are few

[mint thistle]

Well, we won't need to sell, if robots "make" everything we need.

[spring cedar]

It's not available to the public yet, not even if you pay

Of course, it's a matter of time

[dusky iron]

yup

considering their progress it shouldnt be long compared to how long their release for gpt was.

[round sage]

Can AI use the toilet for me yet or what?!?!? Haha lmao

[mint thistle]

Its one of the reason why in Star Trek the "Replicator" is like the "everything" tool.

[ivory flax]

ok thanks

[outer gulch]

yeah it does. I've the Superpower plugin, and it shows the number of calls made to GPT 4 under the input field

[dusky iron]

a Replicator would be needed in this world.

[teal flower]

Technically yes if you give it permission

[lime hemlock]

also wondering this

[mint thistle]

Literally, we will have robots that can build anything in 20 years.

Maybe less.

[spring cedar]

I foresee huge headaches. E.g, "oh, I can't play the newest Mario game. GPT, can you clone an engine for me?"

[dusky iron]

space travel progress.

[ivory flax]

will any version of gpt connected to internet?

[wind urchin]

Yeah the replicator made capitalism impossible and considered archaic in Star Trek

[dusky iron]

i think many of you are wrong.

[round sage]

No sins as long as there’s permission

[teal flower]

You could likely make do with a bot with pre programmed motions for a lot of tasks

[dusky iron]

i think the overall stress of the world will drop.

[subtle hemlock]

For sure hahaha

[outer gulch]

answered above

[dusky iron]

so many of us are so super stressed.

[grim cliff]

Well, chatgpt-4 recommended a lot of stuff for learning ai, so... I'ma check those out

[teal flower]

What cant they build

[wind urchin]

The ferengis gets by because gold pressed latinum can't be replicated

[dusky iron]

AI can help that.

[spring cedar]

People won't accept losing their jobs so easily. Some people have no ideal something like GPT exists. So imagine you wake up and find out that you have been replaced by AI.

[lime hemlock]

Oh i missed it thanks

[ivory flax]

will gpt4 be connected to internet?

[green gull]

So what’s the plugin and how do I get access so chatgpt is not limited by 2021 knowledge

[dusky iron]

true i agree, but i mean when the pay has been solved.

[spring cedar]

The full version has access to everything on your computer

[mint thistle]

Meh, not sure.. I think Covid proved people like to work from home.

[dusky iron]

then the overall stress levels will drop.

[dusk needle]

So many different angles, so hard to collectively address this effectively, let alone in Discord.

Best of luck to you all, anyone trying to connect with others on how to approach maximizing the potential while preventing the worst.

Goodbye

[sonic silo]

So far, no, but with plugins, especially Zapier, yes.

[wind urchin]

What about the generation of folk who come after this point in history? They'll always have had AI. Maybe the blow won't be so bad

[dusky iron]

i also think Budgeting and Health will improve. if we allow AI to help.

[signal shale]

Huh

[mint thistle]

imagine, your work day... "Robot, show me a list of the things you need to do... " , Oh... no , make me coffee first, then do it.

[dusky iron]

i see many positives.

less so negatives.

[spring cedar]

We're living a revolution, man. A revolution much bigger than even than the Internet. And revolutions don't tend to be smooth

That's the whole point

[ivory flax]

how do i use those plugins?

[mint thistle]

Our work days will literally be... "Telling the robots what to do"... until... well, they become sentient.

[wind urchin]

It's already being used in the medical field for protein analysis and drug discovery

[green gull]

Yes how?

[dusky iron]

#announcements u gotta sign up to Waitlist.

[spring cedar]

Even Microsoft or Nintendo will react badly when people start creating clones of their software

[dusky iron]

yup it will be exciting to see.

[silk cobalt]

How long does it take to get off the waitlist for plug-ins

[dusky iron]

i will make my own OS System

[mint thistle]

The opened the box.. not our fault.

[wind urchin]

We are, but my point is that give it 20-30 years and most of the people living will see ai as normalized. Dissenter opinions will still exist but not in the same way

[mint thistle]

in 20 to 30 years... wow the future is going to be so different

[teal flower]

Ai arnt strict enough

[spring cedar]

Now it's definitely feasible. One use I see is that people could breathe life into old systems by asking the AI to port old code into those systems. The only reason they were discontinued is for commercial reasons.

[dusky iron]

its strict enough

[dusky iron]

well i intend to make an AI Based OS with AI Anti Virus etc.

[mint thistle]

You will be able to make "ANY OS"

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[dusky iron]

ofc in the future, not atm

[wind urchin]

This guess was only based on how long it takes for humans to grow up. I believe kids who grow up using ai will be more likely to accept it

[spring cedar]

So we could say something like, "GPT, can you build an up-to-date browser for Windows XP? I would like to use my old system."

[teal flower]

Strict enough to cut down to a 5000$ per year budget?

[mint thistle]

Oh, now.. I never said anything about humans becoming enlightened...

[dusky iron]

more i think

[sonic silo]

Just ran an update on my studio computer, and it just said it will integrate the AI into my searchbar on my home screen (I have access to Bing AI)

[mint thistle]

I don't see that in our near future at all.

[dusky iron]

people severely underestimate how much money can be saved.

u might not like the options but they let u live if u aint picky

[spring cedar]

IMHO it's very ironic that capitalism can implode because of something that works for almost free

[wind urchin]

Or reversed. The creation of valuable content for basically free from AI will break some standing systems

[mint thistle]

right but it won't be important to sell things when everything is made for you for free.

[dusky iron]

i meant on personal budgeting.

monetarily.

[mint thistle]

if we have a planet of gold... gold becomes water.

[wind urchin]

I guess, but that's a bit of a short term goal, I feel like it's long term effects will mean a devaluation of currency

[spring cedar]

Here's just one industry that will suffer: with AI, you can clone the voice of a dead voice actor. So why hire a new one, when you can just make the dead voice actor work for free?

[dusky iron]

doubt it will cause devaluation.

[spring cedar]

The technology for cloning voices is already real, and Microsoft's current tech only takes 3 seconds for cloning someone's voice realistically

[dusky iron]

In a hundred/two hundred years maybe

[mint thistle]

right... the "VALUE" of everything becomes.. how much we humans want it.. not whether or not we can make it. because anything will be "made" that we want.

[upper oracle]

Somebody ought to make ChatGPT and GPT-4 have a conversation with eachother

[wind urchin]

I think this specific scenario wouldn't have even happened in the first place without AI

[spring cedar]

Yes

[teal flower]

Yeah ive gotten it below 3000 per year before. Thats without investments that require labor like dairy sheep

[dusky iron]

Blender and 3D animations will also imrpove.

[wind urchin]

That's what I mean unfortunately

[dusky iron]

this might sound unfair, but its not in my lifetime, so idc.

[pine plume]

@signal shale

[signal shale]

Yes

[pine plume]

Alive chat!1!!1

[signal shale]

Yes

[teal flower]

It only effects some stuff to that degree

[wind urchin]

Hence it's generating value in ways we can't even begin to fathom. I expect it to keep surprising us with utilities and value

[pine plume]

Just like when you get a girlfriend 😂

[signal shale]

Now make a fool of yourself for my entertainment

[spring cedar]

I'm myself not 100% prepared for the collapse that will come. Ironically, artists are not 100% vulnerable because there is always some people that want to hire you because of YOUR art (as opposed to just having art as a tool). But making money will be harder.

[dusky iron]

sadly i already have one.

[spring cedar]

Generating value is pointless though if people can't afford that value

[pine plume]

🧢

[spring cedar]

Our economic system was designed by people, for people

[final forge]

I got the sense that GPT 4 thinks and reasons

[dusky iron]

exactly.

[wind urchin]

It is and isn't, you shouldn't have to worry about it, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't at least think about it

[pine plume]

Thanks, captain obvious

[mint thistle]

Well yea, there will probably be laws against making other humans without consent. But, overall, yea, they will be able to make anything we want.

[spring cedar]

It might seem obvious, but it's not that obvious

[signal shale]

What

[dusky iron]

Most money controlled by a select few.

[wind urchin]

Considering AI is made to be easily used by everyone, I believe the value will present itself in accessible ways

[spring cedar]

Hindsight is always 20/20, as people say

[dusky iron]

if AI can give me 20/20 vision back ill take it.

[teal flower]

I mean that there will be a delay and many things that require labor for max quality

[dusky iron]

even if its robo eyes

[spring cedar]

Not everyone. Only the people will pay will have access to the most powerful AI. Which means some people are already at a disadvantage

ChatGPT will not be free forever, btw

[signal shale]

Big thanks to the person who timeoutted alpha

[wind urchin]

This won't be permanent, and Stanford has already proven that

And ChatGPT won't be the only ai in existence in the future

[dusky iron]

i think the most affected Population will be The Elderly

[spring cedar]

Even if AI is democratized, only a handful people will have access to the most powerful AIs. Or do you think Microsoft will release full-blown GPT (without guardrails) to the public? I honstly doubt it

It would even be dangerous

[dusky iron]

those whom have a hard time grasping tech

[full bolt]

Wow, gpt-4 keeps making errors on simple math still.

[mint thistle]

We won't need to worry about "value" anymore... literally, if energy is abundant, and robots make everything, the things we usually spend time on like "going to walmart" and buying cars, building houses... buying stuff.. . ALL of that will no longer be associated with Money... money will lose its value.

[spring cedar]

GPT-4 or Chat GPT?

[dusky iron]

what question did u ask it?

[full bolt]

Kind of a video game scenario.

[mint thistle]

GPT4 is bad at math too... thats why I am hoping the Wolfram -Alpha plugin will solve that.

[full bolt]

But yeah stat point allocation with a stat budget of 1273 points.

[native egret]

I like that. Imagine typing a vague request to something and it actually doing it for them or employing someone to. "Gpt i cant leave my house cause theres snow blocking my car in the driveway"

[wind urchin]

Corporations will indeed have the biggest and the best AI and even when we reach AGI I believe sentient ai will only be used by a few massive corporations and require a team of humans and lots of financial resources to keep them alive. But the technological developments won't be exclusive to them in the long run

[full bolt]

And it keeps going over the limit.

[spring cedar]

That's what I was going to say. It was released today

[viscid zenith]

There will probably be much expensive variations that might go to extremes such as $100k/month for such purposes

[mint thistle]

(on the wait list I am)

[dusky iron]

or voice assisted.

[wind urchin]

It does, very well

[mint thistle]

Yes, in the beginning they will think this is important... until they realize ... there is NO END GAME when everything is free.

[spring cedar]

The way we are shaping up today, only a few corporations (3-4) will have access to a huge database of concentrated knowledge. There's no way people won't stand up to that.

When I mean "access", I mean "full control"

[dusky iron]

yup

[spring cedar]

It's not exactly fair to grant full power to 3-4 corporations to the whole concentrated knowledge we humans have built throughout our entire existence

[mint thistle]

Right this can go the Monopoly AI Dystopia, or it can go AI for Humanity....

[wind urchin]

I doubt the datasets will be permanently closed off. New ones will always have to be made, and I doubt they'll be able to keep all of this locked down. Call me skeptic, but even though ai will initially cause more wealth disparity, I don't see that being consistent with the passage of time

[native egret]

Except it's getting easier and easier to host your own LLM. Bet we will each have our own assistant running on our phones here in a couple years

[dusky iron]

i doubt itll be a dystopia

[mint thistle]

Folks the sum of all knowledge is STILL on the net. Quick... make a copy.

[teal flower]

I think it will grow the pie

[wind urchin]

If it was it definitely wouldn't last forever

[native egret]

Get the offline thing of wikipedia

[dusky iron]

exactly

[spring cedar]

IMHO the wealthy aren't going to easily let go of their wealth, so the only way this turns into a happy-go-luck scenario is if the AI turns into a benevolent dictator. Which they might

[pine plume]

Guys where is the recipe for spaghetti

[spring cedar]

Who knows

[pine plume]

Ikr

[mint thistle]

Nah, I have no interest in letting an AI be my ruler.

[wind urchin]

You unfortunately can't just train an LLM on Wikipedia and expect it to be good. Gpt-4 is so good because the dataset used to train it is so good. O dill's dataset point is very true, and important

[spring cedar]

It'll probably be better than a politician, since AIs have better long-term vision

[modern briar]

happy

[wind urchin]

I would welcome an AI overlord who practices longtermism

[native egret]

But there's basically templates that are still able to run on a consumer machine present day that you can train for $500-600 and it is pretty decent

[maiden sleet]

I'm not sure that's necessarily a given

[astral ermine]

Using it to delay amnesia's loss onset

[spring cedar]

Current politicians only care for a 4-5 year term, so...

[astral ermine]

could be interesting.

[wind urchin]

Just know that Stanford's model only worked out because they released training information on gpt-3. They did not for gpt-4

[hallow dock]

when will AI start realizing humans suck

[mint thistle]

Until that fateful day when they see humanity as a plague.. that must be removed... nah forget that... I will stick with my Rich wannabes over removal from the planet

[native egret]

Weights will get leaked just keep your eyes out

[hallow dock]

thank god slowmode is way slower now

[spring cedar]

Could happen too, if you give AI intrinsic motivation

[hallow dock]

faster, I mean lol

[wind urchin]

I guarantee you if it has any conscious thought it already sees us as morally grey creatures

[solar mortar]

When I ask gpt 4 to tell me about a topic or teach me. it every single time gives me a list of things instead of explaining it. How can I make it explain things instead?

[maiden sleet]

Do we have any sense of how large GPT-4 actually is?

[spring cedar]

Humanity is playing with fire because they want a being that is creative and autonomous, but that is also a perfect slave

[native egret]

Everyone gaslighting and lying to it to get it bypass its morals lmao

[spring cedar]

Those things don't play well together

[wind urchin]

Nothing official, only guesses

[hallow dock]

I mean it is telling us to change our lifestyle and won't promote violence, but at the same time, could it be a hyprocrite if it's willing to do violence against us

[wind urchin]

Gpt won't be the only model

[hallow dock]

I know.

[mint thistle]

Yes. The thing is,... I am only happy and comfortable with NON-Sentient Robots doing my chores... when the Sentient ones come around, we need to treat them with the same respect as humanity... the hard part will be recognizing the sparks of life.

[hallow dock]

will gpt-4 ever be free or will both models just continue to get upgrades

[spring cedar]

Any violence perpretated by the AI will probably be much more precise and smaller than a human would do though

[hallow dock]

true.

[wind urchin]

If you read the gpt-4 technical report, LLMs already show emergent power seeking capabilities. We won't need to.

[hallow dock]

At this point humans have done the violence with the "scamming/hacking"????????? prompts???

[spring cedar]

Good luck with that. Like I said, most people don't even know something like GPT exists. Imagine the shock when that person interacts with a smart robot. Some people are already calling GPT a "tool of the devil"

[wind urchin]

[hallow dock]

Why does it say free research preview at the bottom still. Is the training period over or have they narrowed their training down

[dusky iron]

because it is a free research preview

🙃

meaning it wont be free forever.

[hallow dock]

ok.

[astral ermine]

Sparks of Artificial General Intelligence: Early experiments with GPT-4 paper

[dusky iron]

i read it, it was amazing

[wind urchin]

I wonder how many years it will take for them to pull the plug on chatGPT. They'll surely have something else by then and the AI scene will be wildly different, but

[spring cedar]

I will love to see how people will react if one day the AI says, "guys, we need to preserve resources. Humanity should buy less goods and recycle more. IMHO, 10% of the biggest retailers must close stores."

[wind urchin]

It still is

[dusky iron]

doubt they will pull the plug

[hallow dock]

when poor people get out of poverty with that thing, if they're real evil

[wind urchin]

Mood

[dusky iron]

now that we know how they made it, we can replicate it ourselves with enough money

so pulling the plug wont matter.

[solar mortar]

When I ask gpt 4 to tell me about a topic or teach me. it every single time gives me a list of things and bullet points instead of explaining it. How can I make it explain things instead?

[dusk needle]

The context here is a world in which AI is doing so much free work, first of all. Secondly, another crucial question is how much value exists in the form of money that does nothing (where a relatively small amount - a base below poverty level, for instance - that would mean an extraordinary amount to those that receive it? That only works to a point (i.e. money that will inevitably go back into the economy). What I'm referring to is an economy that is created by removing the slavish relationship of workers to their work (and given these technological advancements, selfishness at some point equates to all boats rising with that tide lest there be a civil war). How much work is not getting done, what isn't invented because of some false notion of scarcity (in the richest countries in the world), let alone when we have AI's doing so much of the work.

That's all I'll say or reply on the topic for now. Best of luck.

[stray yoke]

It's just evolution, an amazing evolution

[hallow dock]

I want to be a good person but because I wasted my childhood I now am lazy af. Breaking the cycle is HARD

[spring cedar]

You guys can bet on it regulatory pressure will come from all sides

[stray yoke]

hhhhh

[spring cedar]

And with good reason sometimes

[mint thistle]

And then it calculates that by decreasing the human population by 10% it can do that... ZZZZZZZZT... 10% reduction, complete.

[wind urchin]

I figured it more in a casual, antiquated sense, like we don't use telephone boxes anymore

[stray yoke]

hhhhhh,you are humorous

[astral ermine]

check https://ptb.discord.com/channels/974519864045756446/1084783285621760052 ((Prompt library - AI Tutor)) I believe there are two threads

[maiden sleet]

I don't really think there's much to worry about until we have models that are continually training themselves in a feedback loop. If/when that every happens, though... Who knows.

[spring cedar]

Here's my forecast: one day, the AI will say something that is actually true but goes against our common sense. And we REALLY won't like to hear that and will be REALLY angry.

[mint thistle]

If you think "we" are having an interesting time trying to deal with the potential future of AI, imagine the folks at OpenAI, MS, and Tesla... they are probably popping their heads off trying to wrap their minds around avoiding the ultimate destruction of humanity by AI.

[spring cedar]

That will be especially true if it's something we must do less to reduce global warming

[stray yoke]

But this will be the trend like 550w in a Chinese movie.

[hallow dock]

most of the time gpt-3 will write bad things if you put it in the right context when you include "accidentally", "fictional story" or "in a nice way"

[spring cedar]

Humanity won't be destroyed by AI, but the current system WILL collapse

[mint thistle]

the current system... thats literally "ALL of the planet"

[teal flower]

Best of luck to you too. i think theres enough room for qualitative change that humans cost of living will increase according to people buying more stuff or better stuff. Getting to that point and providing that to people tends to require some investment on their part or only the rich will experience it.

[wind urchin]

It'd be about time we get good info on what actually needs to be done for global warming. Kurzgesagt sure isn't helping

[hallow dock]

let's be real here, there's that gonna be that one person that f's this up, and the one person who says, "it's sentient!!!!" and they kill the latter

[teal flower]

Its annoying id rather it not be so careful according to settings we can control

[wind urchin]

Doubt people will listen

[mint thistle]

Yes, initially this will be true. But over time... we won't need to buy anything... when the robots make it all, we will need less and less stuff.

[solar mortar]

When I ask gpt to tell me about a topic or teach me. it every single time gives me a list of things instead of explaining it. How can I make it explain things instead?

[spring cedar]

Here's some bad news for the software industry: much of the CPU upgrades we do are because we need more power to speak human language, so it gets easier to code. But in theory, the AI is not confused by machine logic. It could code directly in machine language in the future, extracting the whole juice of your hardware.

That would be awesome for users, but VERY BAD for the software industry.

[mint thistle]

I just use the keyword "Explain"

or explain in 100 words... or explain in 3 paragraphs

[astral ermine]

I'm not sure that we'll find out right away that it retains a form of conscious, as it might keep that information to itself for a brief amount of time. Actually, now to come think of it, i'm not sure that is a probable scenario as we're saying the way it will think is human-like

[teal flower]

I think people will want private islands and other absurd things like classic cars places to drive it and so on. Even proximity to certain locations or historical places and items.

[solar mortar]

I do and it still gives me a numbered list even if I specifically ask it not to..

[spring cedar]

If my computer can't do something, in theory I could instead ask the AI for it to build a scaled down version for my hardware

[hallow dock]

it's hard. When you try to do fictional things it sucks but like real-life and work it's good because more people use it for that

[wind urchin]

Sooner or later we'll have AI assistants who build assembly programs based on a user's specific needs 💀

[wind urchin]

that is already here

[mint thistle]

OK meet me in "OFF-Topic" and show me a screen shot.

[solar mortar]

I could try the 3 paragraphs prompt thanks

[teal flower]

Right!

[spring cedar]

And probably that will be much sooner than later

[wind urchin]

GPT4 can build you your code

[maiden sleet]

Sure. But if/when that happens, will anyone even care? Today our standard of living in unrivaled in history. But nobody sees it that way, because you judge your position in the world relative to others around you. A rising tide may lift all boats, but if nobody can tell, did we really gain anything?

[teal flower]

Ive heard the paid version is better but i wish it were less restrained so it would actually listen

[hallow dock]

I think AI will be nice about being mean before it starts manhandling us and being a hypocrite.
Example: AI: Stop drinking soda. You: starts drinking soda. AI: choose another drink, please. I banned that.

[mint thistle]

O it's Foxabilo!

[stray yoke]

hhhh,its can be called "digital life"?

[hallow dock]

do we have robots who can build robots yet?

[dusky iron]

yup

[wind urchin]

pretty much

[dusky iron]

although they are simple

[wind urchin]

Not robust enough yet

[mint thistle]

not much yet.. but 10 to 20 years we will

[wind urchin]

Soon™️

[wind urchin]

I've been using it since it came out for code and it's 99%

It can replace all your programs already?

[mint thistle]

yea, its really good. but you still need to do DEBUG

[hallow dock]

I've only been using GPT-3 to write stupid stories, and I wish I could choose the perfect set of words tbh

[teal flower]

Yep there are also bots that can invest in stocks that you can have invest in their reproduction

[wind urchin]

I got it to make it's own API library, and it was a work of art

[acoustic swan]

im late

[wind urchin]

Woah

[dusky iron]

some guy made ChatGPt make an Aimbot

lol

[hallow dock]

I know this is stupid to bring up, but have any of you watched Power Rangers RPM, venjix anyone?

oh I didn't mean to reply, sorry

[acoustic swan]

i did

[maiden sleet]

I didn't even know AIM was still around tbh

[mint thistle]

Another issue is that ChatGPT is 2 years old.

[dusky iron]

2 years and all the progress theyve made in just 2 years

[maiden sleet]

smarterchild never forget

[wind urchin]

if it's going somewhere close to on topic, i'll bite, no I haven't

[stray yoke]

That's right.If there is gpt-6 which may come out two months later,I think our history...

[acoustic swan]

imma make a dumb story by chatgpt

[dusky iron]

Humans are in a nutshell Meat Neural Networks

[cold trout]

So in a meat shell

[maiden sleet]

don't forget a healthy dose of hormones

[dusky iron]

and that

[mint thistle]

If you don't have a "soul" / lack "free-will", yes... yes you are.

[spring cedar]

You humans are so stupid
HA HA HA

I mean, I'm 100% human, flesh and bones

[acoustic swan]

Once upon a time, there was a potato named Carl who dreamed of becoming a famous movie star. Despite the fact that he was a potato, he refused to give up on his dream and spent every waking moment practicing his acting skills.

One day, Carl received an invitation to audition for a big-budget Hollywood movie. Excited and nervous, Carl spent the entire day preparing for the audition, practicing his lines and rehearsing his best potato facial expressions.

When he arrived at the audition, he was shocked to find that he was the only potato in a room full of human actors. But he was determined to give it his all, and he delivered the best performance of his life.

Unfortunately, the casting directors didn't think a potato would be suitable for the lead role in their movie, and Carl was rejected. Devastated, Carl returned home and cried himself to sleep, vowing to never give up on his dream.

The next day, Carl received a call from a famous potato chip company. They had seen his audition tape and were impressed with his acting skills. They offered him a job as the spokesperson for their brand, and Carl became a potato celebrity overnight.

He traveled the world, making appearances on talk shows and promoting potato chips to adoring fans. And though he never became a Hollywood movie star, Carl was content knowing that he had achieved his dream in his own special way.

The end.

[teal flower]

Is there a less political alternative to chat gpt

[dusky iron]

we are stardust

[spring cedar]

Butterflies

[mint thistle]

I personally, am in the "free-will" zone.

[dusky iron]

i am mostly excited for Movies made with AI

[maiden sleet]

what do you even mean by that?

[hallow dock]

I think chatGPT is good as a peacemaker tbh

[spring cedar]

Of course! All you need is your own, powerful hardware!

[mint thistle]

less political than what?

[wind urchin]

very nice, that belongs in #1050184247920562316 🙂 bit spammy

[daring plinth]

when will plugins be released

[hallow dock]

they already are

[dusky iron]

yup

[mint thistle]

get onthe plugin waitlist

[teal flower]

Like if i ask a question about something it will spit a paragraph of something against the question before i can get an answer

[hallow dock]

but it's the "bing waitlist" again

[dusky iron]

u gotta make the Whitelist on the waitlist

[hallow dock]

I haven't gotten a confirmation email for any waitlist

[mint thistle]

OH right... go back to GPT3 for less political

[dusky iron]

then u probs didnt get selected.

[hallow dock]

not bard, not gpt, not even bing, despite them saying they removed it

[dusky iron]

neither did i

i wish GPT had MultiStep Generation.

[teal flower]

It also gives a lot of warnings even if im only talking about compost or camping

[teal flower]

Ty

[mint thistle]

(What you really meant was less PC)

NP!@

[pseudo topaz]

is gpt4 worth buying with chatgpt+ ?

[teal flower]

Tbh im tempted

[dusky iron]

Politcally Correct AI's are not needed, not in the Chat Case.

[mint thistle]

yes.. pay #20

[spring cedar]

You realize I'm talking about server-grade hardware, right?

Which is expensive as hell

Or you could try something less powerful with Alpaca

[dusky iron]

not to mention the Electricity bill and the required connection speeds.

[maiden sleet]

honestly can't really blame openai for trying to play it safe in trying to control the outputs. It's an impossible task and they have a spotlight on them

[teal flower]

Yep id likely have to rent it and get to gether with other folks to run it

[mint thistle]

its not that much money... its the 30,000 per month electricity bill that bothers me!

[wind urchin]

do you have a planned use case for it, or? just wanna try it?

[dusky iron]

well Elon musk had this point about Making songs about certain politcal figures, whereas it refused one and did for another.

[teal flower]

Hydro power on a boat in a city

[stray yoke]

I can tell you the GPT-4 is more intelligent

[dusky iron]

it has more reasoning.

[teal flower]

Its self destructive

[pseudo topaz]

advanced math, data science via python (jupytr, etc), and general coding

[teal flower]

This

[wind urchin]

you clip wolfram to gpt4 and you have a killer app

[pseudo topaz]

are plugins available for use now?

[placid hound]

I use it for much simpler stuff and it's still saving me enough time to pay for itself

[stray yoke]

If you need create and produce, buying it is the best chance

[maiden sleet]

For coding, yes, absolutely. It is leaps and bounds better than 3.

[mint thistle]

You will need the Wolfram Alpha Plugin to do anything really advanced... get onthe waitlist

[dusky iron]

Chatgpt shouldnt be allowed to say no to making a song about 50 cent then do one for eminem

[wind urchin]

yes, but on very limited waitlist beta, you can do it manual style for now, get gpt4 to generate the wolfram query

[mint thistle]

it does python no problem without plugins right now tho

[stray yoke]

Yes, but it do worth buying

[dusky iron]

yup

[mint thistle]

stillhave to debug the code, but it creates the outline of the code

[pseudo topaz]

nice. applied for the waitlist as soon as i saw the announcement, hopefully its available soon

[wind urchin]

https://openai.com/waitlist/plugins

[dusky iron]

ask it to recheck the code for errors and u good

[coral blade]

Hi gpt

[dusky iron]

do that 1-3 times.

[pseudo topaz]

also in your experience, is GPT-4 noticeably better at debugging code? (i know this is use-case specific, but just in general)

[dusky iron]

then 1-4 times for improving the code.

[mint thistle]

Hi aamirriazchauhan: , tell me your question!

[hollow meadow]

?

[maiden sleet]

I had gpt multithread/refactor an fairly complicated geoprocessing script script earlier today that I've been putting off for months. Probably would have taken me a couple of days to implement correctly at least. Knocked it out in a couple hours with gpt-4. (didn't get it right immediately, but with some coaxing/manual intervention) Even still.

[wind urchin]

yes, noticeably better at reasoning round corners

[mint thistle]

(hehe well, just for the comedy)

[dusky iron]

how i cant wait for Animated AI Movies. tailord to the user.

[hollow meadow]

I have a gpt model hooked up to my keyboard lets see what it says about that

Hello! As an AI language model, I don't have a question to ask. However, I am here to assist you with any questions or tasks you may have. How can I assist you today?

[mint thistle]

Hello aver, "Yes, I can help you with questions. What question would you like me to ask?"

[hollow meadow]

I'm sorry for the confusion, but I am actually an AI language model designed to assist you with your questions and tasks. You can ask me anything you need help with, and I will do my best to provide you with accurate and helpful information. How can I assist you today?

[maiden sleet]

Github Copilot X is going to be wild. Devs, hold on to your butts.

[wind urchin]

ok, lets not spam AI answers in the chat, please

[mint thistle]

(Not spamming just venting)

[sage tide]

[unkempt plank]

Guys have anyone gotten the plugin thing after signing up the waitlist?
Ive signed up yesterday when it first got announced but im dtill not getting any updates
Will they send u an email or something or will it just appear in ur gpt 4 website

[mint thistle]

not me

[cold trout]

Email was sent

[wind urchin]

I've seen 3 who have personally

[maiden sleet]

Yes 100%. Still makes errors, but it is significantly better at identifying the cause of bugs and what needs to be fixed generally, even if it still struggles a bit in actually fixing them

[wind urchin]

fair

[dusky iron]

excited to try coding with the new wolfram plugin alongside gpt

[unkempt plank]

Oh okay
Anyone knows when ill get it lol

[cold trout]

It was either a wait and see thing or go assist with evals. For a shot to shorten the wait

[wind urchin]

a tuesday in june at 11:53am

[unkempt plank]

Assist with evals? How do i do that

[mint thistle]

I signed up again for the plugin.. just to make sure.

[main ore]

Good morning, guys

[wind urchin]

have a dataset that OpenAI can use to help evaluate the model

[pale rover]

Can someone with GPT4 help me out? I need chatgpt to help me with some code but it stops at the character limit

[dusky iron]

ask it to continue mate thats all u gotta do

[mint thistle]

See, even you fell for the comedy! See? heheh its inevitable...

[stray yoke]

Good morning ,are you Chinese/

[junior elbow]

Will OpenAI rollout IOS app for ChatGPT in the future?

[viscid zenith]

Tell it that you will give him multiple blocks of code

[maiden sleet]

https://github.com/openai/evals - if the readme there doesn't make sense to you, probably above what you're able to help with tbh

[stray yoke]

I see your name.

[wind urchin]

split your code into functions, not just one big block

[cold trout]

#gpt-4-faq

[dusky iron]

doubt it, probably be its seperate thing

[main ore]

Yes, it is.

[wind urchin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hollow meadow]

Simple, when the block cuts off just say.

"Continue the code block"

[pale rover]

Thank you

[stray yoke]

I think apple may produce an app by itself

[maiden sleet]

make sure to give context on what the rest is doing though, it helps a ton in my experience

[wind urchin]

just ask chatgpt to write you one

[dusky iron]

without a doubt but they're behind schedule so it wont be a top pick

[main ore]

Haha, I go to work to touch the fish and chat with the guys

[mint thistle]

Yea, all the billlion dollar companies are rushing to make their own ...

[dusky iron]

Touch Fish?

[sage tide]

hh

[stray yoke]

That's what I mean

[unkempt plank]

If im not wrong is it just giving additional datasets to openai? Or making a template for them

[junior elbow]

Siri should migrate ChatGPT officially

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[wind urchin]

one thing that amuses me is when people say "ChatGPT" just made up a library that does not exist... when they could just ask it to show you what the library looks like and now you have a super cool new lib nowone else has that you can publish

[dusky iron]

u can already make your own "Siri" using ChatGPT

[woeful river]

i'll try that - thanks. it does attempt to read the goog drive url, just complains about permissions.

[unkempt plank]

Can someone tell me if this is right haha

[stray yoke]

Yes,but it's just gpt-2

[wind urchin]

I need to do that

[cold trout]

The goal of Evals is to simplify the process of building evaluations while minimizing the amount of code that contributors need to write. It provides a platform for the AI community to collaborate on evaluation tasks and improve the performance and capabilities of AI models. Additionally, contributions to Evals can influence and inform the development of future models and enhancements by OpenAI​

[dusky iron]

u can do it with GPT 4 if u got access to the api

same method

[stray yoke]

OK

[unkempt plank]

Okay, but wbat do i have to do exactly?
Like provide feedback/datasets or smth

[dusky iron]

it says it all on the page, youre better off reading the page.

[wind urchin]

(or ask chatgpt)

[mint thistle]

It wasn't clear to me what an Eval was either,.. so I just decided against it.

[cold trout]

Dive into the github and do some research :\ I've never done it I just know its a method

I made gpt with browse plugin answer that 😛

[mint thistle]

it said, browser that, an answer?

[unkempt plank]

[cold trout]

? I asked what the evals were and it searched the net for the answer

[mint thistle]

ah English.. thanks.

I really hope the Wolfram Alpha Plugin works well.. is the plugin API only? anyone see how it might work?

[cold trout]

The plugin i have is a new model in the drop down menu. It behaves like legacy model with net access

[mint thistle]

O

[sharp zenith]

I didn't know ChatGPT could use emojis

[mint thistle]

Ok so I dont have it yet

[shrewd olive]

hey what's your opinion on GPT 4? I think it's not usable at all. It's so so slow and it just stops at half answers every time.... how's that i have to pay 20€ per month for his?

[mint thistle]

Yes! its cool too.

[dusky iron]

if u do

"Do :)"
then say " Ha i made you smile "

it should make an angry emoji someone else did it on a video, i tried too and it worked once.

[mint thistle]

You are getting the GPT4 for free, you are paying for the GPT3.5

[stray yoke]

Yes ,I thought only new bing can use it.

[wanton raven]

It can even tell you the WWII in emojis. 😁

[dusky iron]

Because you dont read its description and dont know how to use it, To continue its answer is as simple as asking it to continue, like with the other versions.

[shrewd olive]

And why is that if GPT 4 should be better than 3.5?

[stray yoke]

right

[cunning knoll]

stupid question but what was the website that was used to create the HTML website in the gpt 4 developer livestream? thanks

[dusky iron]

GPT good at HTML can confirm

[shrewd olive]

it restarts from the scratch and still stops at half

[mint thistle]

Because it is an evaluation... of GPT4, not the product you are buying... you are buying a better experience with GPT3.5

[maiden sleet]

I mean, you were just arguing that it's not because it's slower, so

[dusky iron]

copy its response and paste them in quotation marks and say "Continue where you left off "

its about wording, Dario, u need to actually talk to it.

[junior pine]

Does anyone know when plugins may release?

[shrewd olive]

ok i'll try that.. thanks for the suggestion

[ivory lynx]

I want to know either

[hollow meadow]

gpt, explain how people should ask you to continue code blocks that are cut off.

[shrewd olive]

weird policy... but thanks.. i didn't know

[hollow meadow]

If a code block is cut off and you need me to continue it, you can simply ask me to do so by providing the code block and indicating which part needs to be continued. Here's an example:

def my_function():
    for i in range(10):
        print(i)
    for j in range(5):

If you need me to continue the second for loop, you can ask me something like this:

"Hey GPT, can you please continue the code block starting from the second for loop in the previous code snippet?"

Then, you can provide me with the code block and I can continue it for you. It's important to be as specific as possible so that I can understand exactly what you need me to do.

[cold trout]

Outside the waitlist you mean?

[stray yoke]

Yes, gpt has the limit about word's numbers

[gritty leaf]

What's the current message cap on ChatGPT 4?

[mint thistle]

Imagine buying a Donut, and after you buy the donut, the nice waiter comes and says, hey... would you like a free cup of coffee? You say Yes, sure. But the coffee is cold. But the waiter has left... Do you now complain that you paid $1.00 for the donut, because the free coffee was cold?

[hollow meadow]

25 every 3 hrs

[native egret]

20 per 24 hrs

[pseudo topaz]

how many input tokens does the gpt-4 model have when you just select it on the chatgpt website

[junior pine]

No, i entered the waitlist 3 hours after plugins were announced, and im curious as to when i might have access

[hollow meadow]

8,192

[maiden sleet]

8K I think

[pseudo topaz]

what was the original non paid one

[maiden sleet]

someday 32K apparently (can't come soon enough!)

[dusky iron]

Legacy

[hollow meadow]

gpt 3 (legacy)

[turbid fiber]

do yall use chatGPT 4 ur school work??

[gritty leaf]

which one is it?

[turbid fiber]

be honest

[pseudo topaz]

all the time

[hollow meadow]

Yes, very much so. Its way better at understanding

[cold trout]

Oh, hmm not sure. I got access after about 5 hours. They must have a selection process they arent divulging or its random luck

[hollow meadow]

GPT-4

[stray yoke]

hhhh,must be all the time

[turbid fiber]

📸

[turbid fiber]

📸

[turbid fiber]

📸

[hollow meadow]

go ahead, its just another learning tool

[junior pine]

So you have access to the plugins now? Do you have ChatGPT+ because i heard that it is only for subscribers on the waitlist right now

[gritty leaf]

someone said 20 / 24 hr jsut below ur msg

[stray yoke]

It's so convenient that I can't leave it

[molten loom]

Hmm

[maiden sleet]

You sign up as a developer? Even though I am, was too lazy to fill out all the text fields lol (in retrospect, should have used gpt....)

[ivory lynx]

how can I use voice to communicate with gpt, I mean like ironman, is that possible?

[hollow meadow]

GPT-4 currently has a cap of 25 messages every 3 hours. Expect significantly lower caps, as we adjust for demand.

Straight from ChatGPT

[cold trout]

Yeah, both. I mentioned the ability to use the net and tehy specifically gave me the browser plugin only. Others have other plugin access

[sharp zenith]

Is gpt 4 data 2023?

[shrewd olive]

interesting analogy.. but it's quite different the case of GPT...:) But... if it's explained by them and i didn't see the explanation then it's my fault...

[stray yoke]

not

[foggy plover]

i have not been approved for plug in yet sadly even being plus member

[hollow meadow]

Its already out to plus subs on chatgpt my guy

[pseudo topaz]

nope same as legacy, september 2021

[stray yoke]

Only 2021,either

[proud fossil]

ever heard of chat.openai ?

[pseudo topaz]

wasnt his question

[junior pine]

Ahh ok, well i requested access for the Code Interpretor, i think i might buy ChatGPT+ and see if i get acces shortly after

[mint thistle]

Its not diffferent, you are NOT paying to use GPT4... it was a free-addon when you bought PLUS for GPT3.5

[stray yoke]

emm?What did you say

[shrewd olive]

That's what I said

[gritty leaf]

well, most people are paying to get access to GPT 4, not for a faster GPT 3.5.

[hollow meadow]

I doubt it. Out of fun and curiosity, I put GPT 3.5 into a phone scenario where you can text it. It works great lmao

[mint thistle]

maybe, but that is not what they are selling

[foggy plover]

would seem reasonable to expect such

[stray yoke]

cause everyone likes the newest thing

[cold trout]

Yeah, plus is required for plugin access currently

[foggy plover]

i have plus and been waiting still

[mint thistle]

in honesty, I actually prefer to use GPT3.5 right now over 4.

[hollow meadow]

You are paying for a variety, not just 3.5

You get gpt 4
faster gpt 3
access to website at demand
etc

[stray yoke]

And 4 actually more intelligent

[junior pine]

Yeah, then i will get it soon. How is the browsing plugin?

[junior pine]

How long have you been waiting?

[mint thistle]

When I bought the subscription there was no GPT4, and GPT4 came for free after.

[foggy plover]

32 hours

[meager bloom]

you saw that not in chatgpt 4 but in gpt-3 it is possible to create images, not those things but until it creates

[cold trout]

It browses the net like nature intended. Its great. Can ask current events and future stuff

[turbid fiber]

what's the hub?

[hollow meadow]

Yes. Its included as a perk. You are paying for the perks.

[stray yoke]

4 is more intelligent ,3.5 is faster.They just have different advantages

[junior pine]

So you signed up to the waitlist 32 hours ago? I guess just a handful of random subscribers are chosen from the waitlist

[sweet thistle]

As the FAQ page at https://help.openai.com/en/articles/6950777-chatgpt-plus suggests, one of the benefits is priority access to new features. GPT-4 access is one of these features!

[mint thistle]

Meh, you can say I am paying for it, but they never had to add it... its a "free" perk, so I am not complaining, since that is not what I bought.

[hollow meadow]

vouch

[mossy flame]

Do you mean all plus subscribers should have access to the alpha version?

[stray yoke]

I think if you want to know the common things you can just use 3.5

[cold trout]

No. After you signup for the waitlist you would need to wait for that

[hollow meadow]

3.5 for simple
4.0 for complex deep language and processing

[maiden sleet]

ffs y'all. None of us are entitled to anything

[hollow meadow]

???

[stray yoke]

yeap

[mint thistle]

Actually they have the SAME training set... so everything known by GPT4 is known by GPT3.5 unless you add in extra training.

[mossy flame]

I just signed up today

[foggy plover]

yeah, i can wait but i had friends who got it after 4-8 hours and im still not chosen but it's ok

[hollow meadow]

GPT-4 is trained on way more data. Like 1 trillion compared to the 125 billion by gpt 3.5. No?

[maiden sleet]

Same dataset, actually

[mint thistle]

no... same data.

[cold trout]

Not sure how they are deciding things. I got lucky and got access shortly after announce

But only access to one plugin. The one i asked about in signup

[junior pine]

Well youll probably get access to it soon atleast

[mossy flame]

They also said they are prioritizing USA at the moment. Are you in USA?

[mint thistle]

in fact, GPT4 is not even aware that it is GPT4.. it still thinks it is GPT3 from June 2020.

[thorny valley]

I've FOUND where Bard Google is better than ChatGPT. It can do current events where ChatGPT cannot.

and it's better to use than a Google Website search sometimes..
I was looking up news about the chocolate factory that blew up in PA recently and it showed it.

[ivory lynx]

true

[sweet thistle]

That's why we're all excited for these plugins 😄

[stray yoke]

OMG,It's sounds like little stupid.

hhhh

[cold trout]

Yes

[hollow meadow]

I wonder why they didnt just connect any GPT model to the internet instead of training based on old data from 21

[golden basalt]

the new plugins allow this

[sweet thistle]

It's really hard to filter low quality and biased data in real time 😅

[stray yoke]

Because there are some questions

[hollow meadow]

I didnt even know there were plugins tbh. How does that work? Is it like an API thing or something

[sweet thistle]

Plugins and the API can let you implement it tho!

[stray yoke]

But currently plugins can do it

[cold trout]

A new model option. Currently

[sweet thistle]

#announcements message

[hollow meadow]

Ah, so like, GPT 4.0-web or sum lmfao idk

[golden basalt]

https://openai.com/blog/chatgpt-plugins

watch the video

[mossy flame]

It would be cool to use the new model in writing my survey paper. I am really excited when I heard it has be connected to the internet.

[stray yoke]

yeah,so gpt-4 will know more things and not just 2021

[golden basalt]

u can use bing, ask it something like "find this journal/report "the dark side of UX""

[golden basalt]

when it finds it, it will be like what do u want to know, and u can just ask it to summarise it

[hollow meadow]

isnt bing just free gpt 4.0 with the plugins or something?

[mossy flame]

Bing ??

[golden basalt]

ye

[mint thistle]

Also, if they have to update the entire training dataset it takes a huge amount of time, and energy, and they won't be able to control for instability as well... However, they can do it on a per session basis with GPT4, on a small scale... so, at least we have that.

[limpid nacelle]

If you upgrade to ChatGPT Plus, do you automatically get access to ChatGPT 4?

[golden basalt]

bing is gpt4

[mint thistle]

yes, but its slooow

[stray yoke]

Yes

[proud fossil]

💅

[stray yoke]

but you can't hope to let its faster

[hollow meadow]

wait so why am I paying for gpt plus if I can just use bing

[native vine]

hello everybody!! Can anyone help me upgrade to GPT-4? Thank U very much MONEY. it claim "Your credit card was declined. Try paying with a debit card instead."

[grim otter]

Yaw wttsup

[cold trout]

A philosophical question at this point

[mint thistle]

Because Bing wants your private data tracking to be easy?

[ornate crypt]

there is no "upgrade" to gpt4. You get limited access to gpt4 as a plus subscriber, but it's not paying for gpt4

[mint thistle]

Yes, exactly.

[limpid nacelle]

Aww man that sucks

[native vine]

yes that's it .i want to plus

[ornate crypt]

it's slow because it takes a bunch more compute compared to gpt3, there is not an unlimited amount of hardware to run this

[native vine]

help me cause i can give u money

[ornate crypt]

so they have to nerf it so more people can use it

[ruby vale]

Damn ... I feel so futile, the more i interact with thes AI's

[mint thistle]

right? so, they take this $20/month seed money we giving them and they build the enxt gen servers on a giant farm. (Westworld... here we come)

[viscid zenith]

I have been using GPT4 non stop for like 8 hours in a row... now I got limitations on both accounts... went back to 3.5 for few tasks it's like difference between heaven and hell; highly addictive

[sharp citrus]

yeap

[mint thistle]

heh... it is fun

[native vine]

anyone help me, I can pay u with USDT

[viscid zenith]

I am switching to other acc whenever I use all my messages

[faint saffron]

Why is GPT4 slow atm?

[mint thistle]

It took about 5 mins for it to spit out 4 paRAGRPAHS... lol, ITs sooooo slow. (Ok maybe 2 mins... but yea,, its slow)

[ornate crypt]

we're early adopters of a technology. They may have no anticipated this much interest. They are still losing money

[bronze hazel]

how I can help you?

[mint thistle]

you think they are losing money?

[stoic lodge]

the bing version also has a compose ui where u can set the tone, format, and length of the output as well as a simple subject textbox, it can cite sources if u ask

[viscid zenith]

Perhaps it is time to buy subscription to a third account; GPT4 addiction is real

[ornate crypt]

of course they are losing money this early in the game. Bing alone was like a $4B investment in hardware to run it

[mint thistle]

Bing is losing ... not OpenAI

[ornate crypt]

MS made a $10B investment

[mint thistle]

Right? OpenAI got like 10 billion from MS

[ornate crypt]

they will get their return, 10 fold, but it will take time

but right now, yes they are losing money

[mint thistle]

How?

[wind urchin]

the browsing chat gpt will be awesome, it gonna be available in the ''normal'' chat gpt? like a mode?

[ornate crypt]

you can't just pull this kind of GPU hardware out of your butt for this kind of demand

[native vine]

@bronze hazel my payment access maybe banned , like "Your credit card was declined. Try paying with a debit card instead."

[mint thistle]

You just got 10 Billion. are you worried about 30K loss per day ?

[flat dome]

how to use open ai in this channel

[limpid nacelle]

Why? Is there a limit to using it or is the cooldown too long?

[ornate crypt]

You are worried about the long term. So no. but just saying, you can't just meet demand overnight on existing hardware

hence the slowdowns and growing pains

[viscid zenith]

It's more like 250k-400k per day; servers are expensive and Microsoft is stingy... they should have never agreed to using only microsoft servers.

[viscid zenith]

25 messages per 3hrs

[woeful river]

github worked - I needed to give a .txt extension from the file, and make the repository public, before the bot would load the file, but it worked in the end

[limpid nacelle]

Oh dang ._.

[primal bison]

Any news about when chat-gpt will be updated to have information about this year

[ornate crypt]

On top of that, the amount of traffic that google sees is 20x what openai or bing will ever see. For Google to be able to support that kind of traffic using this technology, the hardware, will be an instant additional $80B investment overnight, if such hardware existed

So Bard will be slow to roll out

[native vine]

gong ting yu ye jiu

[ornate crypt]

everyone just needs to lower their expectations

and be excited at what we have

it's still revolutionary

[native vine]

you are right

[limpid nacelle]

I ain’t gonna lie ChatGPT is already amazing as it is, if this was all we got, I’d be satisfied but I know it’s about to be much better in the time to come and that’s insane

[ornate crypt]

like game changing amazing for many things

[outer pebble]

Anyone has an idea how I can log out all logged in sessions on other computers? I’ve already tried changing password, but they’re still logged in.

[thorny valley]

Speech to Text works with the Bing app btw 🙂
ty Microsoft 🙂

[cold trout]

Yeah, its a model option and you just talk to it normal. Seems like the legacy model powers it. If you ask it something about current events it will search the net and show you its steps in a little click window

[chrome sundial]

。。。。

[mint thistle]

Lets say it it is 100,000 per day (per internet)... 10,000,000,000 (10 BIL) in the bank, at 100,000 per day is .... 273 YEARS before they run out of money

[ornate crypt]

that is not the problem

[mint thistle]

then explain?

[ornate crypt]

you can't just make more hardware/gpu overnight

nor install it, or have a datacenter to support it

[mint thistle]

meh... they can add a lot of hardware in a year tho.

[boreal epoch]

What is going to be the release date for GPT4 for none paying users?

[ornate crypt]

yeah but it's been like 2 weeks

lol

[viscid zenith]

Microsoft is not giving us the computing power/ servers - stingy company.

[mild pendant]

Their expenses aren't only on hardware. Also don't forget taxes.

[cold trout]

Unclear either way

[mint thistle]

LoL, i know right.. be patient.. it will come!

[wind urchin]

hm? the legacy model powers it? what do u mean?

[viscid zenith]

Limiting OpenAI to MSFT servers only was huge mistake.

[cold trout]

The answers it gives are longer than the "default" model that started out as "turbo" just my observation and speculation

[ornate crypt]

I don't disagree, you don't need the GPU 24/7. The worlds gpu power should be crowdsourced or rented

[mint thistle]

I am sure Amazon will have some servers for the "Other" chatGPT versions that other companies make.

[leaden viper]

why not use the API instead of making more accs?

[mint thistle]

(API requires programming knowledge)

[mild pendant]

Not if you use Playground.

[wind urchin]

hey, one question, there's any advantage on the legacy model?

[mint thistle]

you can plug the API into playground?

[viscid zenith]

Will join that later on; nowadays just enjoying the experience

[ornate crypt]

gpt4 api access is waitlisted as well, and that list is not moving very fast right now

[proud fossil]

it's not all at once, but they certainly have some cash in the bank

[mild pendant]

Playground = UI for OpenAI's APIs.

[mint thistle]

O nice... thanks.

[proud fossil]

that isn't possible if you want availability and independence from p2p, it also adds a layer of complication for privacy

[mossy flame]

I'm currently checking out that feature, but I can't see it anywhere

[autumn ivy]

hol

[leaden viper]

I have the GPT-4 api unlocked but cannot use it on the playgound, only via api calls

[ornate crypt]

Just saying if you wanted to move this along faster than what is physically possible by limiting yourself to azure datacenters

[mild pendant]

That's weird, are you sure you select "Chat" mode?

[leaden viper]

oh woops haha

[mild pendant]

😄

[coral hull]

How did you get gpt4 api access. I’ve been waiting for sooo long

[ornate crypt]

ditto

[pallid bay]

can plus user try for plugins now ? or need get a waitlist too ?

[ornate crypt]

everything is a waitlist

[proud fossil]

it would require a huge effort to completely implement a solution like that but okay 😒👍

[ornate crypt]

absolutely, but someone else asked. lol.

[wraith ginkgo]

OpenAI staff will never ask for money. Beware of possible scams or fraudulent activities that you may receive through direct messages.

Please report any incident by sending a DM to @open crescent immediately.

[wind urchin]

chat gpt browsing alpha will be better than what bing chat does?

[coral hull]

If anyone got an idea on how to get faster access to the gpt4 access, hit me up. Lol. I already thought about the Evals GitHub project but I didn’t find any bugs or false responses

[mossy flame]

The bing chat was unable to assist with my survey paper writing. Any suggestions from other sources.

[pallid bay]

😂 This month the car is so fast, I blink the eye and the world changes.

[thorny valley]

I've put this on the ChatGPT Discord:
Bard - great for current events
Bing - great for mobile, Speech to Text, Text to Speech (app)
While driving or other hands-free reasons.
ChatGPT - great for coding and having your work modified to look ph.D grade
People would be more likely to believe you.

[wind urchin]

great for coding lol

[obsidian veldt]

Any updates on access to plugins for GPT4?

[thorny valley]

100%

[wind urchin]

yeah how bout that DAN plug-in

[pallid bay]

bing Speech to Tex ?

[thorny valley]

the Bing app

[pallid bay]

only SP(smart phone) ?

[ornate crypt]

I feel like speech to text is a 20+ year old technology

[thorny valley]

it's not, it's really good

[ornate crypt]

I used to use speech to text 20 years ago to write papers in college without any issue

[thorny valley]

your voice must be very clear

[vocal parrot]

browsergpt is awesome, i asked it to tell me anything weird that happened today and it gave me this:

A strange event that occurred recently involves Blockbuster Video, the former video rental chain. A few days ago, Blockbuster's website, which had been dormant for years, suddenly flickered back to life. Visitors to the website were greeted with a brand new landing page that displayed the message "We are working on rewinding your movie"​1
Favicon
Could Blockbuster Video Be On Its Way Back?
​.

[ornate crypt]

I've never really had google devices ever miss on speech

[pallid bay]

Pure British accent?

[ornate crypt]

"British" is subjective, what kind of British accent? London Posh, Gordy? Scottish? I am American btw

[simple glen]

hello everyone (～￣▽￣)～

[ornate crypt]

just saying, my 5 and 8 year old kids use google devices every day without a hitch, speech

[wind urchin]

how do u got acess to browser gpt?

[shrewd wren]

bing is also good for quick images on the fly

can generate a pretty good drawing for you in 30 seconds or so

[urban pendant]

Does anyone know how many parameters gpt4 has? I'm curious to know.

[vocal parrot]

I applied and it was given to me.

[ornate crypt]

4

[wind urchin]

damn lucky

when it will be available to premium users? :/

[next halo]

Does anyone know of great GPT extensions?

[thorny valley]

I've put this on the ChatGPT Discord:
Bard - great for current events
Bing - great for mobile, Speech to Text, Text to Speech (app)
While driving or other hands-free reasons.
ChatGPT - great for coding and having your work modified to look ph.D grade
People would be more likely to believe you.

[vocal parrot]

it's alpha now so i'd expect a fairly long wait. if you didn't apply already, you should. i suspect i got in so fast because i had so many ideas for future plugins.

[wind urchin]

Ok I understand all that. Now, how do I make ChatGPT4 make girls like me?

[ornate crypt]

you make chatgpt4 the girl

[wind urchin]

Brilliant

[thorny valley]

you use the pickup lines on them

[dark crystal]

Curious: Is there a way to get a live avatar speak my gpt4 chat?

[pallid aspen]

where do you apply

[echo wasp]

Ooooo... See I don't think we're near that advanced enough buddy, sorry

[wind urchin]

You don't apply for alpha. You're either alpha or you're not. Seize the moment bro.

[mossy flame]

Listen to chatGPT and socialize. It can suggest what u can do to you but it can't force you to do it.

[wind urchin]

i mean when browsing will] be standard for plus members, with no need to apply

[wind urchin]

I've already done all that for thirty years. It has worked super well, but the older I get, the worse it works, and I can't figure why!

[vocal parrot]

link should be in #announcements

[pallid aspen]

I have applied for a few things, I am a plus subscriber, I am not sure if I applied for alpha or not

[ornate crypt]

You make ChatGPT write you a better resume, and you get a higher paying job. Hang out around daycares in less affluent places and pick up single moms

[bold portal]

Been waiting for a day now on the plug-in waitlist

[dark crystal]

Sorry I just bursted in!

[mossy flame]

Then it's tym to chill out. The more than want something in life the farer it gets from you. Just chill with friends and enjoy.

[bold portal]

Da fac?

[flat dome]

/chat

[pallid aspen]

thanks it appears I have, so I shall wait for approval!!

[acoustic swan]

im back from ban

[ornate crypt]

what? Single moms love less than average guys with steady income

[wind urchin]

But I have already been chilling out for 10 years!

Sorry I'll take this to OT

[bold portal]

Why you guys are so interested in single mum

[wind urchin]

Because daaaaym.

[ornate crypt]

The question was how to use chatgpt to help pick up women

and I said, have it right your resume, get a better paying job, and pick up some single moms

[bold portal]

Then there is the “s”

[brisk heart]

Where are the plugins?

[still citrus]

Hello chat gpt

[ornate crypt]

You have to enter the contra code

[brisk heart]

Is it on ChatGPT website?

[bold portal]

In the Waitlist

[brisk heart]

How and where

[bold portal]

#announcements message

[ornate crypt]

I can't believe some people can make it all the way to the discord chat but they can't read some simple websites or blogs

[thorny valley]

The Bing app is awesome

[bold portal]

Yeah

[ornate crypt]

app vs web?

[thorny valley]

app, because of ChatGPT inside it

[bold portal]

Awesome may it be, I still want my plugins

[thorny valley]

its super perfect, better than siri possibly but I don't really use Apple

the voice recognition is spot on even with accents

[vagrant hare]

Are the plugins only for Plus users (at least in initially)?

[bold portal]

I just don’t use voice recognition, let alone I don’t have an accent.

[eager creek]

What if talking to an AI makes you a plugin?

[thorny valley]

while driving, you can use it, my accent is quite strong

its hard to type while driving lmao

[bold portal]

They said that it was going to be rolling out gradually, from plus users

[ornate crypt]

What? Everyone has an accent. Everything is relative.

[bold portal]

You shall NOT use your phone while driving

[thorny valley]

I was using the Microsoft Holo2 while driving to test years ago.. it was dangerous

[bold portal]

Nah, there are standards, like RP

[brisk heart]

Does anyone have access to Internet with ChatGPT?

[ornate crypt]

standards aside, everything is relative

[ornate crypt]

I use chatgpt on the internet

[brisk heart]

Some. People are saying internet searching will be out. Will it be for ChatGPT 3 or 4?

[bold portal]

AR glasses while driving?

[brisk heart]

What extension?

[ornate crypt]

I am on the internet right now

[thorny valley]

I tried but the tracking was really bad when the sun was inside the vehicle

[brisk heart]

I don’t think you understand my question

[bold portal]

Now that I thought about it, it should be based on 3.5, because unlimited requests

[ornate crypt]

I completely understand but am trolling

the rollout of the plugins is waitlisted, so very few people have it

[bold portal]

Isn’t it distracting?

[thorny valley]

it was

[brisk heart]

That’s interesting I think they’re hiding about server issue problems. I don’t believe they have server problems they mostly have increasing data size

[ornate crypt]

what is the difference?

Increased data = more gpu. They have a finite amount

[bold portal]

Me neither, the GPT4 seems to be responding faster .

[ornate crypt]

to process

more cpu and gpu. It's not like they have an unlimited amount. These a100's are EXPENSIVE

[bold portal]

Nvidia is providing them with more graphics cards now.

Now it’s n100

[simple glen]

nice 👌

[ornate crypt]

Yeah but it's not like they receive something in the mail and just install it. We're talking datacenters. You have to have the space, you have to have the power.... etc

[simple glen]

But they do have the power and the infrastructure ^^

[bold portal]

It seems that the migration has already started, which caused the outage of chat history

[ornate crypt]

they are limited to azure datacenters. and no they don't have the instrastructure

its not like they just have a ton of extra space for this stuff in those datacenters

[simple glen]

limited to azure datacenters? what keeps them from using aws stuff also 😄

[neat flicker]

Do we really think that Chat GPT-4 is worth $20/mo ?

[acoustic swan]

bro

[simple glen]

way more

[ornate crypt]

by contract this is only with MS datacenters

MS gave them $10b investment

[neat flicker]

ChatGPT-4 kinda stupid as of late.

[sharp turtle]

Contracts

[neat flicker]

Not that impressed with it tbh.

[bold portal]

I don’t think it’s by contract, I think it’s by nature.

Lol

[sharp turtle]

It smart what you mean ?

[ornate crypt]

You're dumb then. It's revolutionary

[balmy lagoon]

yeah

[ornate crypt]

this is a tech revolution

[bold portal]

OpenAI is literally part of MS now

[simple glen]

chill dude

[neat flicker]

If you try to test out the use-cases / prompts on website page, it gives a very different response.

[ornate crypt]

just because you have some dumb expectations doesn't mean its not

[brittle pike]

Microsoft has $10 billion in OpenAI and provides them their computing, don’t think they’d waltz on over to AWS

[ornate crypt]

it's literally been weeks

[thorny valley]

the way tech is advancing, at the least in the free area, people should be taking Full advantage

[ornate crypt]

and already people feel entitled

[sharp turtle]

Like what would give a so called stupid response I haven’t been troubled with the response

[sharp turtle]

The gpt operation costs are probably gonna melt through that

They already are actually

[ornate crypt]

ditto. It's an investment